Breaking: At Least Six People Shot at Ft. Lauderdale Airport, Some Dead

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This news is just coming across the networks; it looks bad.

According Broward Sheriff Fire, there are at least six people shot at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport with multiple fatalities.

FLL officials said the shooting took place in the lower level baggage claim area, in Terminal 2 ,at around 12:55 p.m., Friday.

There was an active shooter call at one point. By 1 p.m., one subject was in custody.

Broward County’s Sheriff said the suspect is a lone shooter but had killed multiple victims.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:59:03am

We can hear the cries of “gun-free zones” by wingnuts again, instead of expressing sadness over lives lost by a crazed douchebag.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:07:10am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:08:30am

Goddamnit.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:13:39am
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And yes, it’s just another day in America.

You know, where mass shootings get about a day’s worth of coverage before the next major shooting overwhelms.

Just enough time for the gun humping idiots in Congress to claim thoughts and prayers, and then do precisely nothing to address lax gun laws that allow them to fall into the hands of whoever is willing to pay for them - straw sales, weak gun reg states, etc. Thoughts and prayers isn’t a substitute for action, but the NRA has made its position known, and the GOP wont budge.

Meanwhile, NYC managed to go through the safest year on record, with record lows in number of shootings and number of homicides. Strong gun control is a factor in that.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:15:46am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:16:27am

Lamestream media too lazy to report on this. The Washington Post buried it in its business section which is the last section that’s display on its front page:

In the frenzied final six weeks of work at the hotel, while Trump touted the project on the campaign trail, AES of Laurel, Md., claims it assigned 45 members of its staff to work 12-hour shifts for nearly 50 consecutive days to get the lights, electrical and fire systems prepared on time.

“We had people there well over 12 hours a day for weeks because they had a hard opening of Sept. 12 and you can’t open if the lights don’t work and the fire alarms don’t work and the fire marshal can’t inspect it,” said Tim Miller, executive vice president of AES. “There is a lot of work that went into that hotel, and it didn’t happen by accident.”

Trump got his wish: The hotel was ready enough that on Sept. 16 he held a campaign event there honoring veterans, which was carried live on national television. He touted the hotel as having been completed “under budget and ahead of schedule” and said that when it opened officially the following month it would be “one of the great hotels anywhere in the world.”

But around the same time, Miller said, the Trump Organization and its construction manager, Lendlease, stopped paying AES. Three days before Christmas, AES filed a mechanic’s lien with the D.C. government alleging that it was out almost $2.1 million. “Merry Christmas and a happy new year to us,” Miller said.

The AES filing brings the total of allegedly unpaid bills on the hotel to more than $5 million. Washington-area plumbing firm Joseph J. Magnolia Inc. and Northern Virginia construction company, A&D Construction, are seeking $2.98 million and $79,700 respectively.

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Franklin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:17:11am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:17:30am

Any description of the subject yet? I don’t have a good feeling about this…

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:18:40am

re: #8 GlutenFreeJesus

Any description of the subject yet? I don’t have a good feeling about this…

He was taken alive, so place your bets.

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Franklin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:19:22am

re: #9 Timothy Watson

He was taken alive, so place your bets.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:19:38am

re: #9 Timothy Watson

He was taken alive, so place your bets.

Radical Muslim, BLM supporter, or “white loner with mental problems”.

Take your pick according to the wingnut criteria.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:19:43am
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If this were in place, the ability of law enforcement to clear and secure the site would be even more difficult than it was today. Because you’d potentially have more than just the shooter to identify with firearms, but anyone else carrying.

That means people who might have been saved from death or more serious injuries or complications due to faster medical treatment would see their care delayed when cops are busy trying to figure out who the good guy(s) is/are from the bad guy(s).

As it is, the perpetrator was stopped and captured by law enforcement, which again would have been delayed or made more difficult by presence of more gun humping folks at the airport.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:20:42am

re: #11 electrotek

Radical Muslim, BLM supporter, or “white loner with mental problems”.

Take your pick according to the wingnut criteria.

Lone wolf!!

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:21:12am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:21:16am

re: #12 lawhawk

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If this were in place, the ability of law enforcement to clear and secure the site would be even more difficult than it was today. Because you’d potentially have more than just the shooter to identify with firearms, but anyone else carrying.

That means people who might have been saved from death or more serious injuries or complications due to faster medical treatment would see their care delayed when cops are busy trying to figure out who the good guy(s) is/are from the bad guy(s).

As it is, the perpetrator was stopped and captured by law enforcement, which again would have been delayed or made more difficult by presence of more gun humping folks at the airport.

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KGxvi  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:21:39am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

He really has no idea how the media in Washington works. He’s going to lose his shit when stuff gets reported that he doesn’t like, and he’s going to learn the hard way that this isn’t like Access Hollywood or Extra.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:21:45am

re: #14 lawhawk

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:23:01am

re: #9 Timothy Watson

He was taken alive, so place your bets.

That’s exactly what I told my wife - taken alive, ergo probably a white dude.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:23:36am

re: #18 makeitstop

That’s exactly what I told my wife - taken alive, ergo probably a white dude.

“Random act of violence”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:24:29am

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

“Random act of violence”

A white man driven to desperation by despair over BLM violence!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:25:06am

Let’s not speculate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:25:20am

re: #20 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bonus points for wearing a “Make America Great Again”’ hat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:25:33am

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Bonus points for wearing a “Make America Great Again”’ hat.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:25:37am

re: #21 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Let’s not speculate.

Keep calm and observe the 24 hour rule.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:26:21am

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Bonus points Reduced sentence for wearing a “Make America Great Again”’ hat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:26:46am

re: #24 Timothy Watson

Keep calm and observe the 24 hour rule.

Trump will make sure the 24 hour rule dies a terrible death after he takes office.

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Franklin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:28:17am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:28:22am

More shit going down now in terminal 1. Cops have weapons drawn again

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:29:15am

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There’s one I know. Hides out in the Ecaudorian embassy. Has the blessing of another creepy haired fuckwad. Jollian? Jellean? Ah Julian!

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:30:13am

re: #24 Timothy Watson

Keep calm and observe the 24 hour rule.

Agreed. I made the mistake with regards to Istanbul when I saw a CCTV photo of a man social media users suspected to be the gunman to be from Uighur right away. But it turned out that he was a Kazakh citizen that was already back in his home country by the time the attack happened. Granted I didn’t share the photo, but I still had it in my mind that it was him, and that was also unacceptable for me.

Yet again I sunk low in the height of outrage, but I’ll be damned if I make the same mistake this time around.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:31:21am
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Trump team busily fucking up the Pentagon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:31:55am

re: #29 HappyWarrior

There’s one I know. Hides out in the Ecaudorian embassy. Has the blessing of another creepy haired fuckwad. Jollian? Jellean? Ah Julian!

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Franklin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:33:00am
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:33:23am

re: #21 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Let’s not speculate.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:34:48am

Has Dim Jim determined political affiliation yet?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:35:21am

re: #34 Frankie Five Angels

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:36:09am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Has Dim Jim determined political affiliation yet?

Clearly a hate-filled liberal Democrat

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:36:12am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Has Dim Jim determined political affiliation yet?

A Democrat, what else?
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wrenchwench  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:36:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:20am

re: #39 wrenchwench

dance like wikileaks is watching

Why were these dance moves revealed to NBC before they were shared with the PEOTUS in his bust-a-move briefing?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:28am

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When did Rage Furby start working for Wikileaks?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:29am

Something going on on the parking garage

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:39:40am
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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:40:48am

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Trump team busily fucking up the Pentagon.

All Cabinets and every administration has infighting that’s halfway between a middle-school recess and the doctrines of Signor Machiavelli, but this administration seems to be dividing itself up between the people who know what the fck they’re doing and the people who don’t, and the latter group seems both to be winning—and to include the president-elect.

esquire.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:41:00am

DT is on it:

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:41:21am

re: #34 Frankie Five Angels

…and that’s why I don’t want to speculate. I’ve done it in past, but more and more I just think…no. Confirmation bias starts with the assumption that you “know” something, but don’t have a meaningful arrangement of arguments/proofs, so you’re just stuck with trying to mash anecdotes together to make a pattern. It’s not just fucking stupid, it’s basically the doom of intelligent, thoughtful analysis.

If we’re right, we don’t win anything, and we’ve grasped the same shit-covered stick as Jim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:42:48am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:43:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:43:26am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:44:12am

re: #31 jaunte

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Trump team busily fucking up the Pentagon.

I really think Trump was just impressed with Mattis’ nickname and that’s all he cared about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:44:14am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:45:37am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

DT is on it:

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Thoughts= how can I profit from this.
Prayers= mumbling to self.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:45:42am

I hope I don’t offend any gun owners here with this but this is why I don’t like guns and hate the fetishization of them. Not saying they have no place in the world but I don’t like them and I really think the world would be a better place with fewer guns.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:47:20am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Military ID? Oh boy.

Now the far left can blame the military, and the Republicans can blame Hispanics, and both can point fingers at each other for something a madman did.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:47:53am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I hope I don’t offend any gun owners here with this but this is why I don’t like guns and hate the fetishization of them. Not saying they have no place in the world but I don’t like them and I really think the world would be a better place with fewer guns.

I’m a gun owner and I’m not offended by what you said. But as someone that doesn’t have an alarm in my house or a watchdog (I don’t think the four cats that hang around my house will help), just saying…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:47:58am

re: #56 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Now the far left can blame the military, and the Republicans can blame Hispanics, and both can point fingers at each other for something a madman did.

Obama had something to do with this, I’m sure…

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:48:08am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I hope I don’t offend any gun owners here with this but this is why I don’t like guns and hate the fetishization of them. Not saying they have no place in the world but I don’t like them and I really think the world would be a better place with fewer guns.

If someone lives in a dangerous place, having a gun can make sense, but for so many it’s a toy, or part of a fantasy-life.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:48:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:49:13am

re: #59 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

If someone lives in a dangerous place, having a gun can make sense, but for so many it’s a toy, or part of a fantasy-life.

There are more guns about than anybody could possibly need for any rational purpose.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:49:25am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:49:29am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama had something to do with this, I’m sure…

The shooter may have been a white Hispanic (Hispanic name / taken alive), and no one used to mention white Hispanics until Obama came into office.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:49:57am

re: #57 Frankie Five Angels

I’m a gun owner and I’m not offended by what you said. But as someone that doesn’t have an alarm in my house or a watchdog (I don’t think the four cats that hang around my house will help), just saying…

Yeah I’m fine with that. You clearly don’t worship guns. Not every gun owner does.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:50:02am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are more guns about than anybody could possibly need for any rational purpose.

Yep, and some of them are in insane arsenals, amassed by crackpots.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:50:16am

re: #59 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

If someone lives in a dangerous place, having a gun can make sense, but for so many it’s a toy, or part of a fantasy-life.

Look at any gun manufacturer’s website.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:50:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:50:35am

re: #59 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

If someone lives in a dangerous place, having a gun can make sense, but for so many it’s a toy, or part of a fantasy-life.

That’s what I mean. I mean I get why people want to be the hero. There’s a lot of people out there who do want to do a lot of good but you don’t need a gun to help people.

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RinaX  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:51:13am

If he has a military ID, then that should take away the argument about him being an illegal killing innocent Ameri—oh, who am I kidding they’ll still run with that argument.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:51:23am

re: #56 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Now the far left can blame the military, and the Republicans can blame Hispanics, and both can point fingers at each other for something a madman did.

Yep.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:51:41am

Every cop I’ve ever asked about open-carry in a shooting situation like this has told me the exact same thing: “I have no idea who the bad guy is.”

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:51:41am

re: #66 Frankie Five Angels

Look at any gun manufacturer’s website.

Not if I want to keep my job. That’s what got the twitchy guy at work fired.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:52:10am

re: #65 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Yep, and some of them are in insane arsenals, amassed by crackpots.

I mean I can get owning one or a few but these people who say they need these arsenals for protection. I’m sorry but no.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:52:54am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I hope I don’t offend any gun owners here with this but this is why I don’t like guns and hate the fetishization of them. Not saying they have no place in the world but I don’t like them and I really think the world would be a better place with fewer guns.

Didn’t offend me, I have several guns. Haven’t shot them a lot lately since I didn’t want to pay the amount that ammunition cost and I didn’t want to fund the industry either.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:53:45am

re: #72 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Not if I want to keep my job. That’s what got the twitchy guy at work fired.

I missed this story. He looked at a gun website at work & got fired?

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Skip Intro  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:53:51am

re: #12 lawhawk

Certainly a little shooting won’t stop them. Next step: Guns on planes.

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baileylamb  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:53:52am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’ve already read that this was a false flag (on another site) or this is a test for something bigger. I wanted to bang my head against my phone.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:54:34am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I mean I can get owning one or a few but these people who say they need these arsenals for protection. I’m sorry but no.

You never know when the Communists/Cocaine Negros/Yellow Menace/Muslim Hoards are going to come over the hill into your neighborhood. We’re really good at being afraid and hating anything different.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:54:50am

re: #77 baileylamb

I’ve already read that this was a false flag (on another site) or this is a test for something bigger. I wanted to bang my head against my phone.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:54:57am

President Obama is the best thing that ever happened to the firearm/ammo industry. The “D” next to his name drove up the stock 20% alone. They should send him a case of his favorite wine every Christmas for life.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:55:14am

re: #76 Skip Intro

Certainly a little shooting won’t stop them. Next step: Guns on planes.

There was a proposal for that following 9-11 to arm pilots I believe. God I just hate that idea. I mean, aside from the fact that shooting a gun on a plane is unsafe. I just think about how it’s already a pain to get my electronics or even a book down from the luggage overhead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:55:18am

re: #78 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

You never know when the Communists/Cocaine Negros/Yellow Menace/Muslim Hoards are going to come over the hill into your neighborhood. We’re really good at being afraid and hating anything different.

And at using those traits as marketing tools.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:55:19am

re: #75 Stanley Sea

I missed this story. He looked at a gun website at work & got fired?

That was a guy at my office. I think other things led to it, since he was really weird.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:55:24am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

Questions need to be answered.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:55:48am

re: #80 Frankie Five Angels

President Obama is the best thing that ever happened to the firearm/ammo industry. The “D” next to his name drove up the stock 20% alone. They should send him a case of his favorite wine ammunition every Christmas for life.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:56:25am

Whatever it is Obama is trying to achieve with all of these false flag operations, it sure doesn’t seem very effective….///

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:56:36am

re: #80 Frankie Five Angels

President Obama is the best thing that ever happened to the firearm/ammo industry. The “D” next to his name drove up the stock 20% alone. They should send him a case of his favorite wine every Christmas for life.

Democratic Presidents as a whole are great for the industry. I was pretty amused to see that after Trump’s election, the local gun store is having a sale. I guess it’s harder to convince people that 2ND AMENDMENT IN DANGER even though Trump has no actual record aside from his bs rhetoric about being a friend to gun owners.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:56:42am

re: #77 baileylamb

I’ve already read that this was a false flag (on another site) or this is a test for something bigger. I wanted to bang my head against my phone.

So, these folks concoct an alternate reality where violent crime is at all time highs because we have no Law’N’Order, but any mass shooting MUST BE a false-flag operation?

The flexibility of what I will euphemistically call ‘their reasoning’ is mindboggling.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:57:07am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

Whatever it is Obama is trying to achieve with all of these false flag operations, it sure doesn’t seem very effective….///

Trump’s pal Alex is on the case!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:57:26am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Has Dim Jim determined political affiliation yet?

Gay black atheist hispanic Muslim transgender Democrat who runs an anti-Trump Youtube channel. For sure.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:59:32am

re: #69 RinaX

If he has a military ID, then that should take away the argument about him being an illegal killing innocent Ameri—oh, who am I kidding they’ll still run with that argument.

Fort Hood shooting…muslims…etc etc

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Franklin  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:02:34pm

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

Whatever it is Obama is trying to achieve with all of these false flag operations, it sure doesn’t seem very effective….///

Make False Flags Great Again

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:03:42pm

Are there flights to/from Cuba out of FLL? Shooter might be an anti-Castroite.

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Donkey With No Name  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:05:01pm

re: #46 BeachDem

All Cabinets and every administration has infighting that’s halfway between a middle-school recess and the doctrines of Signor Machiavelli, but this administration seems to be dividing itself up between the people who know what the fck they’re doing and the people who don’t, and the latter group seems both to be winning—and to include the president-elect.

esquire.com

Manchin’s attempts to distance himself from other Democrats led him Wednesday to meet individually with Vice President-elect Mike Pence to discuss how to repeal and replace ObamaCare, instead of meeting with Obama and other Democrats to strategize how to preserve the law.

… and this is why I draw the line at Manchin when we talk about bringing in more blue dog Democrats. Profile in courage indeed.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:05:43pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:06:57pm

Who prepared this statement for him?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:07:18pm

Maybe if we all pray harder the shootings will stop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:07:40pm

heh

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:07:43pm

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:09:33pm

I think the report that there’s a second shooter in Ft. Lauderdale may be mistaken.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:09:37pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Who prepared this statement for him?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:09:45pm

re: #95 Donkey With No Name

… and this is why I draw the line at Manchin when we talk about bringing in more blue dog Democrats. Profile in courage indeed.

He’s fucking over the people in his own state. They’ll vote him out and replace him with an actual Republican. I mean I get being a more moderate or even conservative Dem but uh Joe, you were elected as a fucking Democrat, act like one.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:10:02pm

I’m gonna guess the new FLL shooting is some “responsible” gun owners nervous over the earlier shootings saw that the other had a gun, and shot at each other…
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:13:00pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

He’s fucking over the people in his own state. They’ll vote him out and replace him with an actual Republican. I mean I get being a more moderate or even conservative Dem but uh Joe, you were elected as a fucking Democrat, act like one.

And I bet even the conservatives in his state would rather keep the ACA rather than repeal it.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:13:25pm

re: #12 lawhawk

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If this were in place, the ability of law enforcement to clear and secure the site would be even more difficult than it was today. Because you’d potentially have more than just the shooter to identify with firearms, but anyone else carrying.

That means people who might have been saved from death or more serious injuries or complications due to faster medical treatment would see their care delayed when cops are busy trying to figure out who the good guy(s) is/are from the bad guy(s).

As it is, the perpetrator was stopped and captured by law enforcement, which again would have been delayed or made more difficult by presence of more gun humping folks at the airport.

This is so true. My brother, when he was law enforcement dressed as a civilian, siad he would never had pulled his gun in a situation like that just for that reason. It’s a good way to get shot by the cops.

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nines09  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:13:48pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Who prepared this statement for him?

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“could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:15:14pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Who prepared this statement for him?

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We know Trump didn’t write it since it’s not written in crayon.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:15:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:15:34pm

re: #105 Belafon

And I bet even the conservatives in his state would rather keep the ACA rather than repeal it.

What’s frustrating about conservative Dems is they’re often in states that are actually less well off than states with more liberal Dems but because those states are more conservative, there’s pressure to vote against things like ACA. That’s why I do respect the other Democrat that will be running for VA’s governor seat. Periello had a pretty conservative district. He voted for ACA, didn’t attempt to weasel his way out of it, and was proud of his vote. He still did lose but it was better than what I’ve seen many Dems do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:16:34pm

re: #108 Frankie Five Angels

We know Trump didn’t write it since it’s not written in crayon Tweeted.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:18:26pm

More human sacrifices to water The Tree of Liberty.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:18:38pm

re: #95 Donkey With No Name

… and this is why I draw the line at Manchin when we talk about bringing in more blue dog Democrats. Profile in courage indeed.

Manchin is still preferable to a Republican Senator, especially if they are close to getting 60 in the ‘18 midterms.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:19:09pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Who prepared this statement for him?

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My money’s on Kellyanne. She probably had it written up before he went into the briefing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:19:36pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Manchin is still preferable to a Republican Senator, especially if they are close to getting 60 in the ‘18 midterms.

I don’t disagree with you there. It’s just frustrating.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:19:47pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

What’s frustrating about conservative Dems is they’re often in states that are actually less well off than states with more liberal Dems but because those states are more conservative, there’s pressure to vote against things like ACA. That’s why I do respect the other Democrat that will be running for VA’s governor seat. Periello had a pretty conservative district. He voted for ACA, didn’t attempt to weasel his way out of it, and was proud of his vote. He still did lose but it was better than what I’ve seen many Dems do.

It doesn’t help to sell a policy when Congresscritters can’t be bothered to go out and explain it to citizens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:19:51pm

re: #114 makeitstop

My money’s on Kellyanne. She probably had it written up before he went into the briefing.

there is nothing in it to indicate otherwise

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:21:27pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Manchin is still preferable to a Republican Senator, especially if they are close to getting 60 in the ‘18 midterms.

Won’t happen in 2018, too many Democratic seats are up, and the GOP seats that are up aren’t exactly competitive ones.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:21:38pm

re: #112 Romantic Heretic

More human sacrifices to water The Tree of Liberty.

No, that would be Molech.///

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:21:52pm

re: #116 Timothy Watson

It doesn’t help to sell a policy when Congresscritters can’t be bothered to go out and explain it to citizens.

Right. Anyhow, as much as I do wish Perriello had ran for his old seat and while I do like Northam, I am fine with Tom running. Hell may even give him my vote depending how the campaign goes.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:22:40pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there is nothing in it to indicate otherwise

It would be irresponsible to not guess.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:23:33pm

re: #118 Timothy Watson

Won’t happen in 2018, too many Democratic seats are up, and the GOP seats that are up aren’t exactly competitive ones.

I meant if the GOP is close to getting 60; we don’t want them to have a filibuster proof majority.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:23:55pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Right. Anyhow, as much as I do wish Perriello had ran for his old seat and while I do like Northam, I am fine with Tom running. Hell may even give him my vote depending how the campaign goes.

I am kinda annoyed that he decided to wait until now to announce.

You were talking about the abuse he suffered while defending Obamacare at townhalls and constituent meetings, I remembering hearing Republicans speak respectfully of him for enduring that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:25:42pm

re: #123 Timothy Watson

I am kinda annoyed that he decided to wait until now to announce.

You were talking about the abuse he suffered while defending Obamacare at townhalls and constituent meetings, I remembering hearing Republicans speak respectfully of him for enduring that.

Yeah I wish he had declared earlier. He’s a good guy honestly and as I said I have a lot of him not only voting for ACA in a contested district but not running away from it either. He if I recall correctly was the Congressman who thought a Tea Party nutjob may have cut his gasleak at his home.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:27:48pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Yeah I wish he had declared earlier. He’s a good guy honestly and as I said I have a lot of him not only voting for ACA in a contested district but not running away from it either. He if I recall correctly was the Congressman who thought a Tea Party nutjob may have cut his gasleak at his home.

His brother’s home, but some teabagger had posted his brother’s address as being the Congressman’s address.

politico.com

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:28:03pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there is nothing in it to indicate otherwise

I dunno if I’m buying that ‘RNC servers were not hacked because their IT gys are teh awesome’ bit, though.

Wasn’t it widely reported that RNC was hacked?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:33:24pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Manchin is still preferable to a Republican Senator, especially if they are close to getting 60 in the ‘18 midterms.

Manchin, who has already said he’s considering switching parties.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:34:17pm
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MsJ  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:47:17pm

re: #77 baileylamb

I’ve already read that this was a false flag (on another site) or this is a test for something bigger. I wanted to bang my head against my phone.

Waste of a good phone. Killing it (and causing brain damage to yourself) won’t kill American stupidity.

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MsJ  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:47:37pm

re: #78 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

You never know when the Communists/Cocaine Negros/Yellow Menace/Muslim Hoards are going to come over the hill into your neighborhood. We’re really good at being afraid and hating anything different.

And liberals. You forgot them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 12:55:26pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

I think the report that there’s a second shooter in Ft. Lauderdale may be mistaken.

That happens so much I’m always skeptical.

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SirMixALot  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:14:10pm

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

Are there flights to/from Cuba out of FLL? Shooter might be an anti-Castroite.

I’m half Cuban from Miami. I am not a fan of anti-Castro Cubans, particularly since many of them voted for fascist Trump. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds at this point. But I don’t like the assumption and speculation being directed at any Cuban because I know we all get hit with the same broad brush. Left wing and right wing Cubans all get accused of killing JFK. Its ridiculous.

There are Latinos living in South Florida from every Latin American country & Caribbean island. Its not just Cubans who live in South Florida. Secondly and more importantly, Fidel Castro is now dead. There isn’t the same kind of hatred for his brother. Thirdly, there have been in-direct flights going to & from Cuba from Miami International for several years now. Now there are direct flights from MIA. The kinds of anti-Castro Cubans you still think exists are either dead or in adult diapers. The kinds of violence the anti-Castro Cubans engaged in the 70s and 80s was mainly directed at other Cubans, not just random people. Since Republican Cubans are assuming that Hair Furher is going to change current Cuban policy there wouldn’t be a logical reason to attack an airport to change it.

OT: Julian Assange is against leaks and now wants to spy on everyone using twitter. WTF? LOL.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 1:20:23pm

re: #95 Donkey With No Name

… and this is why I draw the line at Manchin when we talk about bringing in more blue dog Democrats. Profile in courage indeed.

An then there’s RoseAnn DeMoro, the nurse leader who Bernie fought to have on the Dem platform committee and who now says that she is “disgusted” with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action. “He’s a businessman, he has an international perspective — and his wife comes from a country where they have single payer,”


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