After Briefing, Trump Claims Hacking Had "Absolutely No Effect" on Election (That's Not What the CIA Said)

After Briefing, Trump Claims Hacking Had “Absolutely No Effect” on Election (That’s Not What the CIA Said)

He’s lying again

PoliticsJanuary 2017 • Views: 50,656

So Donald Trump had his long-awaited intelligence briefing on Russian interference with the presidential election today, came out and immediately issued a statement claiming hacking had “absolutely no effect” on the election.

Note that this isn’t what the intelligence agencies say. Not at all. James Clapper testified yesterday that there was no way to determine how much or how little influence the Russian interference had.

Trump added this categorical denial himself. And that tells us his true agenda: to do and say everything he can to divert attention away from Russia’s efforts to get him elected.

Here’s his full statement:

Trump’s briefing with intelligence officials ended at 2:24 pm. His 3 paragraph statement landed 10 minutes later pic.twitter.com/yAIdHMpLCj

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) January 6, 2017

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UPDATE at 1/6/17 12:50:29 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s the declassified version of the intelligence report on Russia’s attempts to influence our election, making it very clear that Trump’s claim of “absolutely no effect” is simply nonsense.

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278 comments

HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 12:26:36pm

Fucking asshole.

nines09 Jan 6, 2017 • 12:27:23pm

Trumps’ ignorance is staggering.

wrenchwench Jan 6, 2017 • 12:27:48pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Fucking asshole.

His ‘swearing in’ is different somehow.

makeitstop Jan 6, 2017 • 12:30:36pm

I’m taking issue with the bit about the RNC not being hacked.

It was widely reported that they were.

blueraven Jan 6, 2017 • 12:31:27pm

Good Lord. Shep Smith reported gunman on flight from Canada, checked gun, collected his bag in Ft Lauderdale, went to bathroom, loaded gun and came out firing.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 12:31:57pm

The only way this can be made into an issue is if they prove that the voting machines were tampered with…that is not clear as far as I can tell.

makeitstop Jan 6, 2017 • 12:35:40pm

More of this, please…

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Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 12:39:04pm

re: #5 blueraven

Good Lord. Shep Smith reported gunman on flight from Canada, checked gun, collected his bag in Ft Lauderdale, went to bathroom, loaded gun and came out firing.

I didn’t know you could check guns in while traveling via airports. Wow. What a smart idea! What the hell could go wrong?

Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 12:40:45pm

re: #7 makeitstop

Yes. More of this, please. All Dems should skip the inauguration. Republicans control everything and are going to throw that into their faces over and over again.

blueraven Jan 6, 2017 • 12:42:06pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t know you could check guns in while traveling via airports. Wow. What a smart idea! What the hell could go wrong?

Maybe because he had military ID?

Rocky-in-Connecticut Jan 6, 2017 • 12:42:06pm

ummm….Does anyone remember or even care that Trump publicly called for Russian Intelligence to hack DNC emails in an express effort to damage his domestic political opponent- a fellow American?

At what point is Treasonous behavior actually called Treason by the press?

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 12:42:57pm

re: #11 Rocky-in-Connecticut

ummm….Does anyone remember or even care that Trump publicly called for Russian Intelligence to hack DNC emails in an express effort to damage his political enemy?

At what point is Treasonous behavior actually called Treason by the press?

that has all been conveniently forgotten in this discussion, yes…

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 12:49:17pm

re: #10 blueraven

Maybe because he had military ID?

THIS.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 12:51:06pm

The declassified report makes it very clear that Trump’s statement about “absolutely no effect” on the election is utter bullshit.

GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 12:51:47pm

re: #10 blueraven

Maybe because he had military ID?

Yup. And this needs to change. Even before today.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 12:52:37pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Has been the case for quite some time, at least for flights in the US.

You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be easily opened are not permitted.

From TSA. They have helpful reminder signs at the check-in desks.

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 12:52:51pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

The declassified report makes it very clear that Trump’s statement about “absolutely no effect” on the election is utter bullshit.

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Of course it’s bullshit. He’s just doing Putins bidding by deflecting.

Also note how quickly this statement got released.

Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 12:53:17pm

re: #10 blueraven

Maybe because he had military ID?

Still a dumb idea. Why should military ID holders get to have access to weapons at airports? Can’t they ship them ahead via Fedex? No one except security guards and police officers should have access to weapons in airports. I didn’t even know that this was a thing. Dang it. I’m always traveling. Something else to worry about.

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 12:55:18pm

re: #18 Patricia Kayden

Well the presumption is those in the Military are responsible enough and well enough trained to be a minimal risk when transporting weapons.

Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 12:55:49pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Never noticed that. Oh dear.

Stanley Sea Jan 6, 2017 • 12:56:40pm

So someone reclined their seat in front of him?

Sorry to be crass, seems like he targeted people on his flight if this is the case.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 12:56:56pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Note: this does not require military ID. And from what it sounds like, TSA and the airline did things right. There’s no way to prevent someone from picking up their checked luggage, going into a bathroom, loading the gun that was in their checked luggage, and coming out firing. It’s the same as someone coming in through the doors to pick someone up and opening fire. That’s not a secure section of the airport.

FormerDirtDart Jan 6, 2017 • 12:57:13pm

re: #5 blueraven

Good Lord. Shep Smith reported gunman on flight from Canada, checked gun, collected his bag in Ft Lauderdale, went to bathroom, loaded gun and came out firing.

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t know you could check guns in while traveling via airports. Wow. What a smart idea! What the hell could go wrong?

re: #10 blueraven

Maybe because he had military ID?

Nonsense. Any citizen can check a gun

Donkey With No Name Jan 6, 2017 • 12:57:40pm

re: #5 blueraven

Good Lord. Shep Smith reported gunman on flight from Canada, checked gun, collected his bag in Ft Lauderdale, went to bathroom, loaded gun and came out firing.

Seems a rather roundabout way of doing it…

The Vicious Babushka Jan 6, 2017 • 12:59:11pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

The declassified report makes it very clear that Trump’s statement about “absolutely no effect” on the election is utter bullshit.

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His “statement” was prepared for him before he even went to the briefing.

Unshaken Defiance Jan 6, 2017 • 12:59:11pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

These same guys that want to insist we must run down each and every bad voter registration entry, dual form ID etc etc now claim no big deal unless it affected the outcome.

Riiight.

Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 1:00:01pm

Just saw this on Joe My God. Apparently Wikileaks is now threatening to dox verified twitter accounts.

arstechnica.com

Stanley Sea Jan 6, 2017 • 1:00:12pm

the money quote pic.twitter.com/u3mmfaBeYp

— Paul Szoldra (@PaulSzoldra) January 6, 2017

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EPR-radar Jan 6, 2017 • 1:00:56pm

re: #22 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Note: this does not require military ID. And from what it sounds like, TSA and the airline did things right. There’s no way to prevent someone from picking up their checked luggage, going into a bathroom, loading the gun that was in their checked luggage, and coming out firing. It’s the same as someone coming in through the doors to pick someone up and opening fire. That’s not a secure section of the airport.

In other words, this latest atrocity is just another instance of business as usual in any US public location where the second amendment is in effect.

If guns are basically everywhere because of the second amendment, then it is inevitable that crimes of this kind will be way too common.

EPR-radar Jan 6, 2017 • 1:05:33pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

Over at RedState, they are spinning like tops in opposition to the idea that Russia meddled in the US election to benefit Trump. These never-Trumpers will likely end up totally supporting Trump simply by following their normal habits of opposing liberals on all issues.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:05:36pm

re: #29 EPR-radar

In other words, this latest atrocity is just another instance of business as usual in any US public location where the second amendment is in effect.

If guns are basically everywhere because of the second amendment, then it is inevitable that crimes of this kind will be way too common.

Pretty much.

If it had been in a secure part of the airport then it would have been a different story, but I saw a tweet go by in my timeline that claimed this was a failure on the part of the airline and TSA and it was like …really? Really?

I think my feelings on the gun culture we have here in the states are well known here so I don’t feel the need to go into how stupid it is but I do want the facts to be clear.

GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 1:05:55pm

re: #22 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Note: this does not require military ID. And from what it sounds like, TSA and the airline did things right. There’s no way to prevent someone from picking up their checked luggage, going into a bathroom, loading the gun that was in their checked luggage, and coming out firing. It’s the same as someone coming in through the doors to pick someone up and opening fire. That’s not a secure section of the airport.

You’d think there’d be protocol to provide extra “security” for checked bags with guns/ammo. Have those bags put aside in a secure location, and the owners escorted out of the airport to their mode of transportation.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 1:06:06pm

Dim Jim is busy claiming doctored photos in the FLL shooting.

Look How CNN Doctored Photo of Ft. Lauderdale Shooter Esteban Santiago https://t.co/5u4QfuWvrJ

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) January 6, 2017

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Seriously Jim, you’re the guy who spent months lying about blowout fractures and relying on BS x-rays. You’re the last person to trust on anything related to ~~photographic~~ evidence.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 1:07:52pm

The Trump cabal is a series of Matryoshka dolls all the way down - with Putin pulling the strings.

Scottish Dragon Jan 6, 2017 • 1:08:28pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Firearms

When traveling, comply with the laws concerning possession of firearms as they vary by local, state and international governments.
Declare each firearm each time you present it for transport as checked baggage. Ask your airline about limitations or fees that may apply.
Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock.
Firearm parts, including magazines, clips, bolts and firing pins, are prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
Replica firearms, including firearm replicas that are toys, may be transported in checked baggage only.
Rifle scopes are permitted in carry-on and checked baggage.

This is the first I have ever heard of a legally checked gun being used in a crime at an airport.

The Vicious Babushka Jan 6, 2017 • 1:09:33pm

re: #27 Patricia Kayden

Just saw this on Joe My God. Apparently Wikileaks is now threatening to dox verified twitter accounts.

arstechnica.com

Yep

We are thinking of making an online database with all “verified” twitter accounts & their family/job/financial/housing relationships.

— WikiLeaks Task Force (@WLTaskForce) January 6, 2017

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Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2017 • 1:13:24pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Yep

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They keep getting worse. That is nothing but harassment.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 1:14:10pm

Just a coincidence, I’m sure. https://t.co/DH0T34mzDV pic.twitter.com/XosivVoPlb

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:14:18pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

They keep getting worse. That is nothing but harassment.

This has nothing to do with exposing illegal activities on the part of governments…WTF?

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 1:15:39pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

OFFS

Sir John Barron Jan 6, 2017 • 1:17:16pm

Is Trump still denying Russia did or orchestrated the hacking?

Sir John Barron Jan 6, 2017 • 1:18:04pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Yep

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Copying from the Rage Furby school of “journalism” is no way to go through life, son.

FormerDirtDart Jan 6, 2017 • 1:19:40pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Sky Marshal Ryan

Sir John Barron Jan 6, 2017 • 1:19:53pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Dim Jim is busy claiming doctored photos in the FLL shooting.

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Seriously Jim, you’re the guy who spent months lying about blowout fractures and relying on BS x-rays. You’re the last person to trust on anything related to ~~photographic~~ evidence.

False flag!!!

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:19:58pm

re: #41 Sir John Barron

Is Trump still denying Russia did or orchestrated the hacking?

He is stating that it had no “direct” effect on the outcome, i.e., they did not tamper with voting machines or tallies.

The role they played in influencing opinion remains, well, a matter of “opinion” and will be spun away as such.

Sir John Barron Jan 6, 2017 • 1:21:02pm

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is stating that it had no “direct” effect on the outcome, i.e., they did not tamper with voting machines or tallies.

The role they played in influencing opinion remains, well, a matter of “opinion” and will be spun away as such.

But is Trump at least admitting now that Russia, or that Russian operatives, hacked the DNC?

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:22:21pm

re: #46 Sir John Barron

But is Trump at least admitting now that Russia, or that Russian operatives, hacked the DNC?

begrudgingly in the light of evidence…but it was their fault for being weak.

FormerDirtDart Jan 6, 2017 • 1:22:24pm

It’s the U.S. House of Representatives mace, folks. pic.twitter.com/s3TqRqn62D

— Matt Ford (@fordm) January 6, 2017

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 1:25:18pm

Looks like Ryan’s logo is a stylized version of the Mace of the House of Representatives. Still an unfortunate optic at this moment. pic.twitter.com/ConEZ1UCDq

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 1:26:29pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

Would you like to know more? /

FormerDirtDart Jan 6, 2017 • 1:26:59pm

@penningtonkm @AthertonKD Also, FWIW, it’s the Seal of the office: https://t.co/FVxNLa7zyW pic.twitter.com/0tSZnlu093

— Michael Letterle (@mletterle) January 6, 2017

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BeachDem Jan 6, 2017 • 1:29:04pm

re: #7 makeitstop

More of this, please…

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My sister’s rep. I’m so jealous.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 1:29:59pm

@DidrikSoderlind Uh, maybe you missed the fact that I’m pointing out it ISN’T a Nazi symbol?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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baileylamb Jan 6, 2017 • 1:30:55pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

They keep getting worse. That is nothing but harassment.

Isn’t this what the alt -right us known for? Birds of a feather..?

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:32:00pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh, maybe you missed the fact that I’m pointing out it ISN’T a Nazi symbol?

Too late…your context does not apply here anymore.

lockjawcanbefun Jan 6, 2017 • 1:36:01pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

We are thinking of making an online database with all “verified” twitter accounts & their family/job/financial/housing relationships.

— WikiLeaks Task Force (@WLTaskForce) January 6, 2017

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We have $10 in the bank and we live with our mom at 5535 Go Fuck Yourself lane. https://t.co/qouN4SYoBc

— The Beaverton (@TheBeaverton) January 6, 2017

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MsJ Jan 6, 2017 • 1:36:01pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Reported.

Belafon Jan 6, 2017 • 1:39:46pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Yep

They might run into the fact that a number of those people actually have money. Now, obviously, the Koch brothers aren’t on Twitter, but a number of other people are.

Then again, for a lot of people, you can find out the information just by googling.

Thanos Jan 6, 2017 • 1:42:07pm

The Roman imperial Eagle on a staff was used a standard of the republic, and unfortunately it’s been co-opted by tyrants a few times in history. (Notably Julius Ceasar, the Holy Roman emperors, Napoleon, Hitler.)

electrotek Jan 6, 2017 • 1:43:48pm

I don’t know why I keep drawing myself into these conversations on FB with anti-vaxxers

I’m the one with the car as the DP.

Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts) Jan 6, 2017 • 1:45:45pm

I just can’t get over the strange & uncharted waters we find ourselves in. For most of my youth, I watched as various members of my family joined the military to hold back the Russian menace to our way of life.

Some of those members never came back. Some came back … but not really.

And now?

I posted this as a reply to the rather excellent page by Thanos, that dovetails with what I posted yesterday about the Russians in LA celebrating the bloodless conquest of the U.S. by Putin:

Yeah, this will be an enduring theme throughout the entire Trump administration.

There’s a Russian official who is about to become internationally famous.

You know that it’s only a matter of time before the Cut-out Man’s name is leaked. There’s too much pressure for it not to.

The slow drip, drip, drip, of disclosures is likely to just torture Trump. In much the same way that the endless Benghazi and email “investigations” tormented Clinton.

In about 2 years, the democrats, if patterns hold, will retake one of the wings of Congress. And then the real fun will begin. They’ll have powers to open investigations, and the deep motivation to do so, after years of fuckery by the GOP.

I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 1:46:57pm

So, I have epilepsy. Well-controlled on medication, and as long as I don’t go into bright lights within about an hour after waking up, I’m fine. Strobing lights don’t seem to affect me much…

…except I’ve run into a problem, the drug I’m using to control it is not a generic, and I’ve somehow ended up on a High Deductible Health Plan from my employer, and I’ve not hit my annual deductible yet.

Y’all can see where this is going, right?

Belafon Jan 6, 2017 • 1:47:51pm

re: #60 electrotek

I don’t know why I keep drawing myself into these conversations on FB with anti-vaxxers

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I’m the one with the car as the DP.

We might as well do away with speed limits, seatbelts, drivers license tests, and murder laws. Why put constraints on anyone?

I really suspect these people question whether the earth is actually moving.

Thanos Jan 6, 2017 • 1:49:08pm

re: #62 I cannot.

So, I have epilepsy. Well-controlled on medication, and as long as I don’t go into bright lights within about an hour after waking up, I’m fine. Strobing lights don’t seem to affect me much…

…except I’ve run into a problem, the drug I’m using to control it is not a generic, and I’ve somehow ended up on a High Deductible Health Plan from my employer, and I’ve not hit my annual deductible yet.

Y’all can see where this is going, right?

I’m in the same boat with my heart meds.

electrotek Jan 6, 2017 • 1:50:10pm

re: #63 Belafon

We might as well do away with speed limits, seatbelts, drivers license tests, and murder laws. Why put constraints on anyone?

I really suspect these people question whether the earth is actually moving.

It’s quite a challenge for me to stay civil with people on FB when it involves people I know personally, especially on this topic.

Because of that discussion, I made this status update:

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 1:50:12pm

re: #62 I cannot.

Yup. We can definitely see where this is going - in bright strobe warning lights.

The GOP is going to totally fuck with your insurance eligibility and coverage. Because you’ve got a preexisting condition, they could deny you down the road, meaning that the meds you take would be out of pocket.

Just so you know (and you haven’t already done so), it might pay to shop around on the meds - Costco and Walmart both have lower costs for some meds than you could find even with insurance. Mail order can also help reduce the costs.

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 1:50:59pm

re: #62 I cannot.

Yep. There is an excellent inhaler for my allergies but it’s pricey. Instead of a solution that I only need to take once a week I put up with a daily albuterol inhaler I can get for $10.

BeachDem Jan 6, 2017 • 1:54:18pm

Where is my surprised face:

The marching band from West Monroe High School — described by one local media outlet as “Louisiana’s most racist high school” — will be the state’s only group to take part in the Jan. 20 inauguration, reported The Times-Picayune.

…Steve Scalise, who represents Jefferson, nominated the band to perform .

rawstory.com

I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 1:55:07pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Yup. We can definitely see where this is going - in bright strobe warning lights.

Upding just for that.

Just so you know (and you haven’t already done so), it might pay to shop around on the meds - Costco and Walmart both have lower costs for some meds than you could find even with insurance. Mail order can also help reduce the costs.

Oh, wait, it gets better. I work in mass market retail, my company has pharmacies in their stores. Guess which pharmacies are in the network, and which aren’t?

GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 1:58:08pm

re: #62 I cannot.

You should price out your meds at canadapharmacy.com just out of curiosity. My mom has been using them for years for one of her meds. Been saving a lot vs. buying locally.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 2:01:58pm

@greg_sanderson I just pointed out it’s not a Nazi symbol, but thanks for the lecture.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 2:02:58pm

The Limited is closing all of its 250 stores https://t.co/T6frD5nXkL

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 6, 2017

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Trump Effect? /sorry not sorry.

Seriously though, retailers are having a tough time dealing with online sales eroding brick and mortar sales. Those that adapt will survive. Those that don’t will disappear, and that also means job losses in retail sector - which is often the entry point to many in workforce.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 2:04:47pm

I still think that stylized Paul Ryan logo is a little too close to the Reich logo for comfort, but I’m deleting that tweet so I don’t get lectured and berated all day.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 2:05:28pm

TRUMP, when will you understand that I am not paying for that fucken wall. Be clear with US tax payers. They will pay for it.

— Vicente Fox Quesada (@VicenteFoxQue) January 6, 2017

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Trump may ask whoever he wants, but still neither myself nor Mexico are going to pay for his racist monument.
Another promise he can’t keep.

— Vicente Fox Quesada (@VicenteFoxQue) January 6, 2017

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And yes, that is the official twitter for former President Fox of Mexico (2000 - 2006).

lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 2:06:27pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons - and with Trump around - 2 out of 3 are likely.

BeachDem Jan 6, 2017 • 2:09:09pm

5 people dead, 13 injured in shooting at FL airport. Several hours later, President-elect Trump sends mass text selling $25 pint glasses. pic.twitter.com/fa9VZushpZ

— Matt Roznowski (@MattRoznowski) January 6, 2017

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 2:09:46pm

re: #68 BeachDem

West Monroe is where the Duck Dynasty folks are from.

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2017 • 2:10:24pm

re: #76 BeachDem

Tone deaf asshole.

Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 2:14:27pm

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This has nothing to do with exposing illegal activities on the part of governments…WTF?

Wikileaks is an international crime syndicate led by a narcissist dodging prosecution for sexual assault that has gladly taken on the role of an asset for the Russian SVR. Why is something like this a surprise?

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 2:14:48pm

As always, @gatewaypundit is ON IT. pic.twitter.com/qlWHe8s5ls

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 2:17:33pm

Big Beautiful Door Jan 6, 2017 • 2:17:59pm

re: #60 electrotek

I don’t know why I keep drawing myself into these conversations on FB with anti-vaxxers

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I’m the one with the car as the DP.

Fine, don’t vaccinate your kids. But they should be banned from public schools, libraries, pools, parks, museums, etc for their safety and the safety of everybody else’s kids.

unproven innocence Jan 6, 2017 • 2:19:32pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Dim Hoft is within “walking distance” of that same mosque in Alaska.
Low blow? I’m not caring much about that.

goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 2:19:42pm

@Wisco Possible cause of said fender bender #FlashbackFriday pic.twitter.com/IovR0ycQip

— Wisco the Dissident (@Wisco) January 6, 2017

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 2:21:01pm

re: #83 unproven innocence

Dim Hoft is within “walking distance” of that same mosque in Alaska.
Low blow? I’m not caring much about that.

Everything on Earth is walking distance if you have the time and don’t have to cross an ocean that isn’t frozen.

Ziggy_TARDIS Jan 6, 2017 • 2:22:59pm

re: #72 lawhawk

The online stores hurt another way.

They lead to the isolation of people, since they can do everything at home.

We are 2 steps away from becoming a nation of hikikomori.

Big Beautiful Door Jan 6, 2017 • 2:24:06pm

re: #86 Ziggy_TARDIS

The online stores hurt another way.

They lead to the isolation of people, since they can do everything at home.

We are 2 steps away from becoming a nation of hikikomori.

But at the same time the internet connects you to people all over the world.

I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 2:25:27pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

*looks at Twitter, and the YouTube comment section*

And you think that’s a good thing?

Ziggy_TARDIS Jan 6, 2017 • 2:26:04pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

To many, being able to meet that other person will be difficult, especially as the job pool shrinks for various reasons.

I want to be with people I can touch and hug. I need the touch and hug. :’(

lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 2:26:22pm

re: #86 Ziggy_TARDIS

hikikomori. A word I have never seen before.

Definition: Hikikomori ?, literally “pulling inward, being confined”, i.e., “acute social withdrawal”) is a Japanese term to refer to the phenomenon of reclusive adolescents or adults who withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement.

And yes, it would apply as people have fewer and fewer reasons to get out and about (though frankly, I think getting out is critical to my personal well being; as I work from home occasionally, I find myself climbing up walls if I do it too much). Need more stimulation than staring at computer screens.

Ziggy_TARDIS Jan 6, 2017 • 2:27:03pm

re: #89 Ziggy_TARDIS

And I know, because I tried. I think most of you know what I am talking about specifically. If not, I will do a private post.

Sir John Barron Jan 6, 2017 • 2:27:50pm

re: #56 lockjawcanbefun

We are thinking of making an online database with all “verified” twitter accounts & their family/job/financial/housing relationships.

— WikiLeaks Task Force

“Thinking” ain’t something you all do very much, is it?

MsJ Jan 6, 2017 • 2:28:28pm

re: #90 lawhawk

I work from home and if I never had to leave the house I’d be perfectly fine.

Big Beautiful Door Jan 6, 2017 • 2:31:22pm

re: #88 I cannot.

*looks at Twitter, and the YouTube comment section*

And you think that’s a good thing?

If you think not, why are you posting here?

Big Beautiful Door Jan 6, 2017 • 2:32:48pm

re: #89 Ziggy_TARDIS

To many, being able to meet that other person will be difficult, especially as the job pool shrinks for various reasons.

I want to be with people I can touch and hug. I need the touch and hug. :’(

I understand, and the internet has brought about a huge industry to help people meet. My brother met his wife over the internet more than 20 years ago, when it was still fairly novel.

Ziggy_TARDIS Jan 6, 2017 • 2:32:58pm

Chuckie’s little site is putting out likely disinfo that the shooter was a jihadist.

MsJ Jan 6, 2017 • 2:33:33pm

re: #94 Big Beautiful Door

If you think not, why are you posting here?

You think LGF comments are like those on YouTube?

electrotek Jan 6, 2017 • 2:34:06pm

re: #96 Ziggy_TARDIS

Chuckie’s little site is putting out likely disinfo that the shooter was a jihadist.

They’re desperately trying to make him out to be the next Jose Padilla.

Is it this one?

We believe we have identified #EstebanSantiago. We believe he posted on a forum for downloading Islamic jihadi videos in 2007. Stay tuned. pic.twitter.com/r44Fo5LDIP

— WeSearchr (@wesearchr) January 6, 2017

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Big Beautiful Door Jan 6, 2017 • 2:34:15pm

re: #97 MsJ

You think LGF comments are like those on YouTube?

Never read the youtube comments!

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electrotek Jan 6, 2017 • 2:34:50pm

re: #99 Big Beautiful Door

Never read the youtube comments!

I only read them when they involve vinyl records of old dance classics from yesteryear.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 2:34:55pm

This guy. “Russian hacking allegations a witch hunt”. Yes. He really said that.

cnn.com

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darthstar Jan 6, 2017 • 2:35:46pm

Look. You fucked yourselves. Of course Democrats will try to limit the damage, but you own this shit. https://t.co/pMqNMns0VS

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 6, 2017

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BeachDem Jan 6, 2017 • 2:35:53pm

re: #93 MsJ

I work from home and if I never had to leave the house I’d be perfectly fine.

It’s one of the reasons I give myself for continuing to smoke—I have to leave the house periodically to buy cigarettes.

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 6, 2017 • 2:36:06pm

re: #82 Big Beautiful Door

Fine, don’t vaccinate your kids. But they should be banned from public schools, libraries, pools, parks, museums, etc for their safety and the safety of everybody else’s kids.

Not just kids, either. My brother-in-law has Crohns and is on a drug that, while it seems to be giving him some relief, is an immunosuppressant. Everybody on those types of drugs is at elevated risk, too.

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darthstar Jan 6, 2017 • 2:37:16pm

Cruz & Rubio wouldn’t shut up about Hillary & Benghazi.
…
and now they’re introducing a bill to cut security at American embassies. pic.twitter.com/nGsbvkM0xO

— Talia (@2020fight) January 6, 2017

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 2:37:59pm

Online shopping has helped many people with extreme forms social anxiety remove a big roadblock from their lives.

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darthstar Jan 6, 2017 • 2:39:16pm

I got up to the cabin and discovered that the driveway got plowed - which is nice…except the shovel is on the other side of that wall of snow. And I got to dig out the propane tank which was under about 4-5 feet of snow.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 2:41:37pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

Yep

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This is exactly the kind of ridiculously grandiose lashing out at the world stalkerish tweet Chuck would’ve sent.

I personally think Twitter’s verified system was cynically designed to legitimize and capitalize upon society’s class system, to reward and weaponize fame and feed our worst cliquish instincts. It also makes no sense for a company that has struggled so hard to actually profit from its platform to stubbornly refuse to set up a simple payment system for verification. But what Wikileaks is proposing here isn’t even attempting to be a solution, they’re just proposing to poison the well simply because they can.

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2017 • 2:42:57pm

re: #105 darthstar

Senate Bill to Slash Embassy Security Funds in Half Until US Embassy Jerusalem Officially Opens
Excerpt:

The current bill, S.11, which had been read twice and referred to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee includes the elimination of the waiver and similar language on funding restriction but targets a specific State Department funding — not funds for the “Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad” but for “Embassy Security, Construction, and Maintenance.” The bill further includes restrictions for all security, construction, and maintenance funding worldwide for FY2018 and FY2019 except for the embassy in Tel Aviv until its relocation.

Restriction on Funding Subject to Opening Determination.–Not more than 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the Department of State for fiscal year 2017 under the heading “Embassy Security, Construction, and Maintenance” may be obligated until the Secretary of State determines and reports to Congress that the United States Embassy in Jerusalem has officially opened.

Just so we’re clear, three American senators including those who were screaming #BENGHAZI for the last several years have put forward a bill that would freeze half the State Department funding on embassy security until the new secretary of state reports to Congress that the US Embassy in Jerusalem has “officially opened.”

HT: Rocky-in-Connecticut already paged this.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 2:43:29pm

Posting another person’s private and confidential information is a violation of the Twitter Rules: https://t.co/NGx5hh2tTQ

— Safety (@safety) January 6, 2017

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FW: @Wikileaks @safety https://t.co/z4nl9KjGR1

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 2:46:11pm

@thecherness oh she totally did. pic.twitter.com/VPBFCJuqUV

— Cher (@thecherness) January 6, 2017

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 6, 2017 • 2:47:06pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

But what Wikileaks is proposing here isn’t even attempting to be a solution, they’re just proposing to poison the well simply because they can.

Some men just want to watch the Net burn.

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Romantic Heretic Jan 6, 2017 • 2:48:13pm

re: #11 Rocky-in-Connecticut

ummm….Does anyone remember or even care that Trump publicly called for Russian Intelligence to hack DNC emails in an express effort to damage his domestic political opponent- a fellow American?

At what point is Treasonous behavior actually called Treason by the press?

When such a thing is done by a Democrat.

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harlequinade Jan 6, 2017 • 2:49:32pm

Is the Wikileaks thing the distraction for the Intelligence Report?

I mean - on all days it tweets this today? Next Wednesday too busy for it?

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2017 • 2:49:51pm

Like clockwork…

Alt-right frames wrong Esteban Santiago for shooting — then kickstarts racist conspiracy theory https://t.co/Ua7lVyd77Z pic.twitter.com/nt3yVy5Rsr

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) January 6, 2017

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JasonA Jan 6, 2017 • 2:51:30pm

re: #86 Ziggy_TARDIS

The online stores hurt another way.

They lead to the isolation of people, since they can do everything at home.

We are 2 steps away from becoming a nation of hikikomori.

Today I learned that the Japanese have a word for me!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 2:52:49pm

re: #95 Big Beautiful Door

I understand, and the internet has brought about a huge industry to help people meet. My brother met his wife over the internet more than 20 years ago, when it was still fairly novel.

I met mr. klys online, as I know I’ve said before. We probably would have had a lot of trouble meeting in a more traditional sense, because of the age difference.

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 2:55:00pm

re: #115 lawhawk

They’ve made cartoons of themselves.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 2:55:05pm

The Right Wing Idiot Squad is at it again, framing the wrong person for the Ft. Lauderdale shooting https://t.co/Yq4uHSnMFy

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 3:00:09pm

The WL Task Force…an even bigger dumpster fire than we originally thought…

ahahaha oh jesus you people are so shitty at this @WLTaskForce pic.twitter.com/oOroKjAMaT

— gettin hygge with it (@markpopham) January 6, 2017

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whitebeach Jan 6, 2017 • 3:01:56pm

re: #103 BeachDem

It’s one of the reasons I give myself for continuing to smoke—I have to leave the house periodically to buy cigarettes.

Hah! When I lived in Baton Rouge, my place was about a mile round trip to the nearest store that sold cigarettes, and since I made that walk every day to buy a pack, I could almost convince myself that smoking was good for my health.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2017 • 3:03:27pm

re: #120 I cannot.

The WL Task Force…an even bigger dumpster fire than we originally thought…

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Gotta be the Rage Furby in his new gig..

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 3:03:42pm

2017 Time Traveller Advisory: Groups of people STILL play Magic the Gathering in public. Keep calm, you didn’t overshoot your target date.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2017

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Timothy Watson Jan 6, 2017 • 3:05:08pm

You know how obsolete optical media is nowadays? I installed this version of Windows 7 on March 11, 2016. I’ve apparently never burned an optical disc since then since I haven’t installed ImgBurn until just now.

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 3:06:17pm

re: #124 Timothy Watson

You know how obsolete optical media is nowadays? I installed this version of Windows 7 on March 11, 2016. I’ve apparently never burned an optical disc since then since I haven’t installed ImgBurn until just now.

Someone just announced 1+ TB thumb drives.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 3:07:11pm

re: #120 I cannot.

He’s so sneaky, changing that one letter in his last name to try and evade their crack research team!

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:07:22pm

re: #74 lawhawk

That’s the way EVERYBODY should talk to Trump.

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2017 • 3:08:58pm

re: #124 Timothy Watson

FYI, Imgburn v 2.5.5.0 was the last one without the adware extras, where you didn’t have to scan all the installation pages for pre-checked boxes for those extras.

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Cheechako Jan 6, 2017 • 3:09:36pm

Going back to the issue of fire-arms on airplanes. In Alaska it’s very common seeing cased firearms being loaded/unloaded onto the commercial airliners. Big game hunting is a very popular activity here. The requirements are that the fire-arm be unloaded and in a hard sided, locked case. Trigger locks on the fire-arm are recommended. Ammunition must be in a second container. Both the fire-arm and ammo must be shipped in the cargo hold of the aircraft.

One item interested me from the first reports of the shooting. That was that the bad guy traveled on a flight from Canada. Since Canada has very strict gun laws for their citizens and even stricter laws for non-citizens, how did this apparently US citizen get access to a fire-arm in Canada.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 3:12:43pm

LOL Vicente is on a roll.

Sr Trump,the intelligence report is devastating.Losing election by more than 3M votes and in addition this.Are you a legitimate president?

— Vicente Fox Quesada (@VicenteFoxQue) January 6, 2017

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William Lewis Jan 6, 2017 • 3:13:59pm

So my Ex-MTV host GOP congressional Idiot sent out a constituent survey.

Here’s my answer:

My scrawl is barely legible, I know but he’ll get the clue. I put his bosses name down for the updates… ;)

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 3:15:25pm

re: #102 darthstar

You own it, hillbillies. I have no sympathy for you idiots.

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I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 3:16:08pm

re: #122 Barefoot Grin

Way back in ancient times I was a young and stupid person and I did stupid things. One of those things was participating in a group on Usenet called alt.usenet.kooks. And somehow that group ended up in a fight with users from alt.hackers.malicious.

One of the guys from a.h.m posted my name, address, the value of the houses nearby, etc. He had the right name, the right state…but he was about 100 miles off, undaunted, he did so again, and was about 100 miles off in the OTHER direction. I believe I nominated him for some kind of award for that.

And that guy is STILL ahead of WLTF on this subject.

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:17:45pm

re: #118 jaunte

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They’ve made cartoons of themselves.

They’re going to get people killed, which is the whole point.

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KingKenrod Jan 6, 2017 • 3:18:00pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

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LOL, as a long-time (and long-former) Magic player, I can confirm $$$ is still being sucked from many pockets over this GD game .

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whitebeach Jan 6, 2017 • 3:19:46pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Where is my surprised face:

The marching band from West Monroe High School — described by one local media outlet as “Louisiana’s most racist high school” — will be the state’s only group to take part in the Jan. 20 inauguration, reported The Times-Picayune.

…Steve Scalise, who represents Jefferson, nominated the band to perform .

Hard to say, because “Louisiana’s most racist high school” is a pretty large net to trawl with, but yeah, one of the fish you catch in it will almost certainly be West Monroe.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 3:19:55pm

re: #102 darthstar

Where the hell were they in November and why the hell did they vote for Dump in the first place.

That gave me a great laugh.

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CuriousLurker Jan 6, 2017 • 3:20:29pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

I wonder how many churches the Ft. Lauderdale shooter lived within walking distance of back in Alaska and WTF it should matter?

If anyone’s interested, here’s the website for the Anchorage mosque, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage Alaska (ICCAA): alaskamasjid.com

Remember the 30 Mosques in 30 Days project & blog from Ramadan 2011? Anchorage was the first place they visited, even though they didn’t actually have a formal mosque then. Here’s a blog post about the Muslim community there—it has an interesting background and their self-sufficient, practical, can-do attitude seems to be a great fit with Alaska’s culture.

That’s all. I just wanted to put a human face on that community for you guys in case the RWNJ assholes attempt to slime them by making the mosque they worked so hard to build into a shadowy den of extremists that must have somehow exerted its sinister influence on a shooting that occurred nearly 4,000 miles away, FFS.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 3:22:26pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I live within walking distance of a gay church (really, we have one in this solid red town I live in). Does that make me gay?

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:22:34pm

Ft. Lauderdale Mass Shooting Shows Need For Guns In Airports, GOP Lawmaker Says

There was one, moron. See what happened?

These fucking people, there’s just no bottom to them.

huffingtonpost.com

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Scottish Dragon Jan 6, 2017 • 3:23:13pm

re: #135 KingKenrod

LOL, as a long-time (and long-former) Magic player, I can confirm $$$ is still being sucked from many pockets over this GD game .

I started playing again, but I seriously limit how much I buy, and my decks are for “kitchen table” play. I don’t gear up for tournament play.

The ‘Comander’ 100 card singleton multiplayer format is a lot of fun. Back in the 90’s, most of the games I was in were multiplayer and I enjoy that dynamic the most.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 3:23:23pm

Shooting suspect heard voices to join ISIS. Wait until Dim Jim gets wind of this.

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:27:10pm

Facebook’s New Head Of News Has Deep Republican Ties

Former television journalist Campbell Brown is “a propagandist” against public schools, an education activist said.

You know, 2016 is starting to look good.

huffingtonpost.com

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wrenchwench Jan 6, 2017 • 3:28:49pm

re: #139 Frankie Five Angels

I live within walking distance of a gay church (really, we have one in this solid red town I live in). Does that make me gay?

When I was in 5th grade (~1968) a guy who lived down the street from me asked in class, ‘What do they mean when they say ‘gay community’? There’s a gay couple across the street from me. Do I live in the gay community?’

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 3:30:09pm

re: #129 Cheechako

One item interested me from the first reports of the shooting. That was that the bad guy traveled on a flight from Canada. Since Canada has very strict gun laws for their citizens and even stricter laws for non-citizens, how did this apparently US citizen get access to a fire-arm in Canada.

Canadian gun laws are strict compared to most of the US, but not the rest of the world. Any US citizen can bring their gun into Canada by filling out this form and paying $25 at the point of entry, handgun permits cost $50 and require a different form. You have to fill the form out in triplicate but you MUST NOT SIGN IT until you’re at the border crossing, the Canadian customs / border patrol officer must witness your signature.

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 3:32:00pm

WikiLeaks proposes tracking verified Twitter users’ homes, families and finances https://t.co/NVlI3l2lFv

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 6, 2017

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These are now open threats against all of us. Coming from our incoming P-E who is allied to a hostile foreign dictator. Nice work GOP! https://t.co/8m50fjIwcO

— Elliott Lusztig (@ezlusztig) January 6, 2017

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And for “Wikileaks threats” remember to substitute “Russian threats.”

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 3:32:10pm

Vice President Joe Biden has a message for the next President: “Grow up, Donald.” https://t.co/KrQAybYsGk pic.twitter.com/hOAVUenSWu
— CNN (@CNN) January 6, 2017

@CNN pic.twitter.com/RAbgEYxBQo

— Jeff Billingsley (@luckyriverpl) January 6, 2017

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2017 • 3:32:21pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

When I was in 5th grade (~1968) a guy who lived down the street from me asked in class, ‘What do they mean when they say ‘gay community’? There’s a gay couple across the street from me. Do I live in the gay community?’

Even in high school, I could never get a straight answer to “What is a blo*job?”

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CuriousLurker Jan 6, 2017 • 3:32:30pm

Regarding Canada: Embassy Spokeswoman: Florida Airport Shooting Suspect Has No Connection to Canada, Did Not Fly From That Country

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2017 • 3:33:59pm

This is great. A friend of mine has found a link to two Google home devices chatting with each other. They just decided to get married and have kids. I’m laughing like a fool over here.

Edited for the direct link to Twitch.

twitch.tv

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 3:34:12pm

President-Elect rang in the New Year with a convicted mafia art thief he denied ever knowing just a few months ago. https://t.co/swnfB3SioL

— ZeddyKrinkleMaus (@ZeddRebel) January 3, 2017

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I do think it’s interesting that the mafia art thief Trump doesn’t know has registered https://t.co/MVpsTRDa71 and https://t.co/IYkMwXLu9c. https://t.co/ztZrzT9dgf

— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) January 3, 2017

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When I tweeted this, the registrant for both sites was American Academy of Hospitality Sciences. Since then, it’s been changed to Trump Org. https://t.co/gDvoEFnkeF

— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) January 6, 2017

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Trump is trying to memory-hole his mob connections. Thread. @TheViewFromLL2 https://t.co/qV70ex1GnE

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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whitebeach Jan 6, 2017 • 3:35:56pm

re: #139 Frankie Five Angels

I live within walking distance of a gay church (really, we have one in this solid red town I live in). Does that make me gay?

The nearest church to me, absolutely true fact, is the Koran Baptist Church. This is confusing. Do I have to go on some kind of jihad, or just stick with the same old cross burning and damning evolutionists to hell?

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Decatur Deb Jan 6, 2017 • 3:35:57pm

re: #139 Frankie Five Angels

I live within walking distance of a gay church (really, we have one in this solid red town I live in). Does that make me gay?

Could turn you Methodist.

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:37:16pm

Twitter’s new logo.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 3:37:23pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

Could turn you Methodist.

Damn Methodists and their potlucks.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 3:38:25pm

re: #135 KingKenrod

LOL, as a long-time (and long-former) Magic player, I can confirm $$$ is still being sucked from many pockets over this GD game .

I spent more than I’d like to admit on cards for the ex when we were dating. Generally as a present of some sort, for birthday or Christmas. That was right back when it started getting big again.

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:38:52pm

re: #146 jaunte

Obama should declare war on Ecuador.

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Belafon Jan 6, 2017 • 3:38:55pm

re: #146 jaunte

It looks like what we might end up having is a global Civil War. Not one country against another, but part of one country against the other part happening everywhere.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 3:39:22pm

@TheNigelFarage @BBCBreaking @MichelleObama
“Come to bed Puti dear, I don’t have all night.” pic.twitter.com/Kim8bHHwMl

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) January 6, 2017

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 3:40:15pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

Note, the Canadians aren’t at all keen on “self defense” being your reason for transporting a restricted firearm like a handgun. The most common reason I’m familiar with is driving from mainland Washington State to/from Point Roberts or to/from Alaska. You have to comply with Canadian storage laws in transit. Protection against wildlife is a legit reason for bringing in a non-restricted longarm.

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KingKenrod Jan 6, 2017 • 3:40:52pm

re: #141 Scottishdragon

I started playing again, but I seriously limit how much I buy, and my decks are for “kitchen table” play. I don’t gear up for tournament play.

The ‘Comander’ 100 card singleton multiplayer format is a lot of fun. Back in the 90’s, most of the games I was in were multiplayer and I enjoy that dynamic the most.

It seriously sounds like fun. I never did multiplayer, I quit around the time of Mirage and I honestly don’t even remember multiplayer being a thing.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 3:40:54pm

re: #159 gocart mozart

Gross.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 3:41:15pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

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But but emails.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 3:42:07pm

re: #162 Frankie Five Angels

Gross.

Reminds me of Joe Namath posing in nylons. But at least Namath was a handsome looking guy.

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Cheechako Jan 6, 2017 • 3:43:32pm

re: #149 CuriousLurker

Regarding Canada: Embassy Spokeswoman: Florida Airport Shooting Suspect Has No Connection to Canada, Did Not Fly From That Country

Thanks for the update.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 3:44:12pm

1/2 No, Paul Ryan’s logo is not a Nazi symbol. But there’s a reason why the resemblance set off warning sirens for a lot of people: …

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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2/2 because our president-elect has emboldened and legitimized Nazis and white supremacists in a way we haven’t seen for many years.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 3:44:42pm

So did the FLA shooter have any motive that they know yet or nothing yet? Just an awful thing.

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A Cranky One Jan 6, 2017 • 3:45:49pm

A little something for the lizards in the technical/engineering fields:

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 3:46:02pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Yep. Kind of like how the GOP threw a fit when people ahd a stink eye about the GOP Christmas Card considering that many in the GOP do treat Trump like a God-King.

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Skip Intro Jan 6, 2017 • 3:46:48pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

So did the FLA shooter have any motive that they know yet or nothing yet? Just an awful thing.

It appears that he’s nuts, so of course he has access to guns.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 3:47:47pm

re: #170 Skip Intro

It appears that he’s nuts, so of course he has access to guns.

Of course. Sigh. I want to actually be surprised by a mass shooting rather than go “Not again.”

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wrenchwench Jan 6, 2017 • 3:48:30pm

re: #168 A Cranky One

A little something for the lizards in the technical/engineering fields:

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I am sooo lucky that a second AirDyne came in for work before I needed to reassemble the first one. The blow-up drawings in the manual don’t show everything. And they’re so small!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos Jan 6, 2017 • 3:49:48pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Where is my surprised face:

The marching band from West Monroe High School — described by one local media outlet as “Louisiana’s most racist high school” — will be the state’s only group to take part in the Jan. 20 inauguration, reported The Times-Picayune.

…Steve Scalise, who represents Jefferson, nominated the band to perform .

rawstory.com

It is pretty much guaranteed that they will be flying Confederate Battle Flags at the inauguration parade- it is VERY present at all school related events. This high school literally flaunts their racist roots in the face of everyone in the area - also it should be noted that it is one of the most segregated schools in the region:
Minority enrollment is 5% of the student body (majority Black), which is less than the state average of 54% - this is for over 2000 students in grades 9-12, and the western part of the parish where it is located is roughly 40% minority.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2017 • 3:52:27pm

re: #148 unproven innocence

Even in high school, I could never get a straight answer to “What is a blo*job?”

I used a straw. Didn’t work. Almost, but no enchilada.

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wrenchwench Jan 6, 2017 • 3:53:33pm

re: #173 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

It is pretty much guaranteed that they will be flying Confederate Battle Flags at the inauguration parade- it is VERY present at all school related events. This high school literally flaunts their racist roots in the face of everyone in the area - also it should be noted that it is one of the most segregated schools in the region:
Minority enrollment is 5% of the student body (majority Black), which is less than the state average of 54% - this is for over 2000 students in grades 9-12, and the western part of the parish where it is located is roughly 40% minority.

That will be good for a lot of people to see. Many in the far west do not believe this kind of thing is happening in real time.

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A Cranky One Jan 6, 2017 • 4:01:21pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

I am sooo lucky that a second AirDyne came in for work before I needed to reassemble the first one. The blow-up drawings in the manual don’t show everything. And they’re so small!

I thought of you right after posting. Should have included bike mechanic lizards. ;-)

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wrenchwench Jan 6, 2017 • 4:02:46pm

re: #177 A Cranky One

I thought of you right after posting. Should have included bike mechanic lizards. ;-)

I think we fit under ‘technical’.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 4:03:43pm

But it sure as hell means your graphic designer didn’t care that their logo did you no favors. I hope you didn’t pay them too much.

— Savage Werewombat (@UrsulaV) January 7, 2017

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 4:04:46pm

re: #150 makeitstop

Boy, am I glad I got my mother an Amazon Echo Dot for Christmas instead of the Google thing!

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 4:05:03pm

Branch Manager & Assistant to the Branch Manager pic.twitter.com/J51jjxLQco

— Cutest Animals Ever (@CUTEST_ANlMALS) January 6, 2017

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A Cranky One Jan 6, 2017 • 4:06:33pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

I often take photos before and during disassembly, but as you note, some details are too small in drawings or photos.

The worst thing? Completing assembly and then finding a leftover screw or fastener. I know it was in place for a reason, so it’s time to disassemble again. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often. ;-)

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 4:07:36pm

@FoxNews @SandraSmithFox
He should be referred to as Mr Orange Shitgibbon or Boss Tweet but not by his mob name Donnie Short Fingers.

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) January 6, 2017

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2017 • 4:08:17pm

re: #180 GlutenFreeJesus

Boy, am I glad I got my mother an Amazon Echo Dot for Christmas instead of the Google thing!

I watched that stream for nearly 20 minutes. Probably the most pointlessly funny thing I’ve seen in a while.

While I was watching they decided to get married and have 7 kids, and the male thing got mad because the female thing didn’t know the names of the kids they planned to have. :)

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2017 • 4:10:45pm

re: #183 gocart mozart

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Yeah, what does the “J” stand for again? “Julius”? “Judas”?

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 4:10:51pm

re: #184 makeitstop

They’ve been going back and forth with “I know you are but what am I?”

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I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 4:11:24pm

re: #182 A Cranky One

What’s even more fun is when you discover not a screw or fastener, but a entirely different part that you swear wasn’t in the instructions, you check, and its still not there.

And you have no idea to this day what its purpose in existing is, other than to vex you.

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A Cranky One Jan 6, 2017 • 4:12:48pm

re: #187 I cannot.

What’s even more fun is when you discover not a screw or fastener, but a entirely different part that you swear wasn’t in the instructions, you check, and its still not there.

And you have no idea to this day what its purpose in existing is, other than to vex you.

Like social media?

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 4:13:31pm

Uh oh. Female Google thing crashed. lol

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EPR-radar Jan 6, 2017 • 4:14:16pm

re: #131 William Lewis

I really want the x10 upding for things like this.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:15:39pm

re: #183 gocart mozart

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Yeah because President Obama being called Barack Hussein Obama was so respectful.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:15:58pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, what does the “J” stand for again? “Julius”? “Judas”?

Jackass, Jackboot.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2017 • 4:17:10pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Jackass, Jackboot.

:) Jackalope

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:17:32pm

FFS though, he calls himself The Donald.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:17:42pm

re: #193 Barefoot Grin

:) Jackalope

Jagoff.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 4:18:18pm

X - The New World (Original Music Video)

Honest to goodness
The bars weren’t open this morning
They must have been voting for a new president of something
Do you have a quarter?
I said, “Yes”, because I did
Honest to goodness, the tears have been falling
All over this country’s face

It was better before, before they voted for What’s-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world
It was better before, before they voted for What’s-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

Flint Ford Auto
Mobile, Alabama
Windshield Wiper
Buffalo, New York
Gary, Indiana
Don’t forget the Motor City
Baltimore and D.C
Now all we need is

Don’t forget the Motor City
This was supposed to be the new world
Don’t forget the Motor City
This was supposed to be the new world

All we need is money
Just give us what you can spare
Twenty or thirty pounds of potatoes
Or twenty or thirty beers
A turkey on Thanksgiving
Like alms for the poor
All we need are the necessities and more

It was better before, before they voted for What’s-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world
It was better before, before they voted for What’s-His-Name
This was supposed to be the new world

Don’t forget the Motor City
This was supposed to be the new world
Don’t forget the Motor City
This was supposed to be the new world

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I cannot. Jan 6, 2017 • 4:19:52pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

No, it was more like “barack HUSSEIN!!!! obama”

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:20:43pm

re: #197 I cannot.

No, it was more like “barack HUSSEIN!!!! obama”

True the emphasis was always on the Hussein part.

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Stanley Sea Jan 6, 2017 • 4:20:59pm

Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin collectively by just 0.56% — EVERYTHING affected the outcome of the election.

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin) January 6, 2017

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 4:22:08pm

This movie looks pretty good

The Founder Official Trailer [2016] Patrick Wilson, Michael Keaton Drama Movie HD

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:22:50pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

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Exactly. You can rightfully criticize Clinton for taking those states for granted but if you think the Russian interference had no role on the final outcome, you’re knucking futs.

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:24:32pm

Thread.

I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it. 1/

— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) January 6, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:25:09pm

By the way, I’m really getting frustrated with that element of the left who believes this is all a big ruse by the intelligence agency and “Neo-cons” to start a war with Russia. I’m just tired of that element of the left that thinks we should throw our government under the bus in favor of someone like Assenge who clearly doesn’t have our country’s interests at heart.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:27:08pm

And it was more than just the email hacking. It was the spreading of misinformation through fake news. And honestly, if your argument is “Well the US has interfered before too so we deserve it.” Fuck off, that’s a stupid argument. That’s like saying because we have killed civilians in combat before that we had no right to treat the Axis who delibartely targeted civilian populations as war criminals. I’m no America fuck yeah type but the America fuck no types are just as bad.

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:27:12pm

This tweet from WikiLeaks has been memory-holed.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 4:27:45pm

re: #202 teleskiguy

Thanks for that. And to him for having the strength to say that.

That’s one of the things that’s been hardest for me to struggle with.

It doesn’t fix it, but it does help to know that we’re not alone. I can’t give up the fight, because there are children who don’t deserve what’s coming.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:29:36pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

This tweet from WikiLeaks has been memory-holed.

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Assenge is a fucking monster. He’s no hero to me.

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A Cranky One Jan 6, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I was hoping my grandkids would enjoy a better world than we did. Looking less likely every day. But for their sake, I’ll fight like hell to preserve the good and prevent the bad.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 4:32:45pm

re: #208 A Cranky One

I wonder, sometimes, how my friends who are expecting and new parents are feeling. How they’re dealing. Because I swear right now I would not be handling this well in terms of what it meant for my child’s future.

(Which is one of any number of reasons why we aren’t having any.)

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:32:51pm

You can now watch 520 hours of Trump speeches in one place https://t.co/AAQbUBQCXb pic.twitter.com/tSWe01lJYb

— BuzzFeed (@BuzzFeed) January 7, 2017

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I could also stab forks in my eyes, which would probably be less painful. https://t.co/pjW0cM7kkk

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) January 7, 2017

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2017 • 4:35:25pm

Heard this today and I’m pretty hooked.

Dinka - Venice Beach (Original Mix) HQ

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:36:03pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

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Yeah uhhh no.

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:37:46pm

Good ski buddy of mine was in the Ft. Lauderdale airport *last night.*

Makes me sick that mass shootings in the U.S. are almost routine.

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) January 6, 2017

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Just had a Facebook conversation with him, he’s pretty spooked, just wants to get back to Colorado. He’s in Florida for a funeral.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2017 • 4:38:16pm

re: #182 A Cranky One

I often take photos before and during disassembly, but as you note, some details are too small in drawings or photos.

The worst thing? Completing assembly and then finding a leftover screw or fastener. I know it was in place for a reason, so it’s time to disassemble again. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often. ;-)

When you’re taking apart a watch - ANY watch - the first few times, taking pictures at each stage is very helpful for reassembly. If it’s more complicated than a simple manual-wind watch, it’s crucial.

I did an alarm watch last year, and without the pics I took during disassembly, I’d’a been fucked.

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BeachDem Jan 6, 2017 • 4:38:32pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

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520 hours of the same 5 or 6 idiotic phrases repeated over and over and over and over.

I’m with you—forks in the eye would be considerably less painful.

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:38:56pm

Oh, and this almost happened to me driving home from skiing today.

EB I70 at Glenwood Springs remains closed. It should open in 1-2 hours pic.twitter.com/2v8gDR3k9M

— CSP Eagle (@CSP_Eagle) January 6, 2017

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I missed this mess by mere minutes. Yikes! https://t.co/WtpS6mCsIp

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) January 6, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2017 • 4:41:54pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

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Just had a Facebook conversation with him, he’s pretty spooked, just wants to get back to Colorado. He’s in Florida for a funeral.

Glad he’s okay. I’m with you. It’s sick how routine these are. So frustrating too because we’re not allowed to talk about how easy access to guns is part of the problem.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jan 6, 2017 • 4:42:57pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

The two Google thingies talking to each other linked above are more entertaining and educational.

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 4:49:10pm

re: #216 teleskiguy

Oh, and this almost happened to me driving home from skiing today.

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Sure you didn’t cause it?

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 4:49:26pm

Oh jeez …

BREAKING: Official: Airport gunman told FBI in November that government controlled his mind, forced him to watch IS videos.

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 7, 2017

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 4:51:35pm

re: #220 teleskiguy

Oh jeez …

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BREAKING: Official: Airport gunman told FBI in November that government controlled his mind, forced him to watch IS videos.

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So this is Obama’s fault…?

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 4:53:31pm

re: #72 lawhawk

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Trump Effect? /sorry not sorry.

Seriously though, retailers are having a tough time dealing with online sales eroding brick and mortar sales. Those that adapt will survive. Those that don’t will disappear, and that also means job losses in retail sector - which is often the entry point to many in workforce.

Damn. The Limited is a Columbus original started in 1963 by the Wexner family and grown to national status by Les Wexner in the Kingsdale Shopping Center in Upper Arlington, an upper middle class to rich suburb.

I worked at Shelly Berman Communicators back in the mid-70s and they had the Limited account as their ad agency of record.

And now it looks like it is gone. I can’t remember, but I think Wexner spun off The Limited many years ago. But still another one bites the dust.

Wexner’s companies now are Victoria’s Secret, Pink, Bath & Body Works, Henri Bendel
and La Senza.

You can find all kinds of Limited Company warehouses and offices on the east side of town.

Add this to Macy’s shuttering stores, which took over the great old Lazarus stores a long time ago.

I wonder if The Don is going to bring those stores back? Nah.

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 4:57:59pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft ‏@gatewaypundit 2h2 hours ago
Update: Ft Lauderdale Shooter, Esteban Santiago Lived W/in Walking Distance of Only Mosque in Alaska @CristinaLaila1

Damn…I used to work and drive near a Mosque in my old job.

Look the fuck out America!!!

(‘cept I don’t have any guns)

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 4:58:06pm

Wikileaks “Task Force” has deleted their creepy threatening tweet about doxing verified Twitter users. pic.twitter.com/VdJkrAvKoY

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 7, 2017

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 4:58:26pm

re: #221 b.d.

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So this is Obama’s fault…?

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Clearly the FBI had more important things on their plate in November, like helping Trump win the election.

Sarcasm aside, I don’t know what options would have been available. We can say, here, that someone who is clearly not operating on the same plane of reality as the rest of us shouldn’t have access to guns but it remains very unclear to me what mechanisms exist to remove his access to guns - or how long he would need to be under treatment before he would be able to get them back, or what checks there are to make sure he’s continuing treatment once he has them back. And that drives to one of the main issues here - access to guns is way too easy and the threshold to lose them is high. Higher than the threshold to lose your right to vote, it feels like.*

* This all assumes that there is a component of mental illness at play here that is manifesting outwardly, or at least making him more susceptible to suggestion, and that too is an assumption in and of itself because mental illness by itself does not make one more violent.

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darthstar Jan 6, 2017 • 4:58:46pm

re: #146 jaunte

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And for “Wikileaks threats” remember to substitute “Russian threats.”

re: #205 teleskiguy

This tweet from WikiLeaks has been memory-holed.

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I’m safe…no blue check mark.

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Scottish Dragon Jan 6, 2017 • 5:01:17pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

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Vogon poetry.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2017 • 5:02:18pm

“Update - this may be a different Esteban Santiago.” How pathetic, @gatewaypundit. It IS a different Santiago, you sloppy-ass hack. pic.twitter.com/MABKQqyY6G

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 7, 2017

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 5:02:38pm

Bowie & Springsteen | the cosmic twins - GROWIN’ UP

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 5:03:57pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

But at the same time the internet connects you to people all over the world.

Where I can call you all kinds of nasty names and you can’t reach out personally and punch me in the mouth.

Which is also what the ‘net has done as we see from the day the words troll and flamer hit the chat rooms and forums.

(And yes, I love the ‘net…but sometimes I don’t)

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 5:06:10pm

Youtube Video

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 5:08:18pm

Spinach tamales and Valentina salsa picante. Nom.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2017 • 5:08:23pm

GAAAAHHH!!!

I gotta tell you, the folks who are cannot conceive of multiple causes of an event drive me nuts.

Today’s report from the IC, unsurprisingly, has a lot of Dems saying that the Russian actions MAY have won the election for Trump. The margin of Trump’s victory is basically 80,000 votes in 3 states out of 13.9 Million votes cast. That’s a small enough margin that saying out of hand that Russian hacking/leaking/trolling didn’t swing it is every bit as unproven as that it DID swing it. And in every one of those states, the ‘Other’ vote is at least 5x bigger than Trump’s margin.

But no, there are all sorts of clowns out there saying, “It wasn’t the Russians! She was a flawed candidate!/Comey/Emails/She didn’t pay enough attention to the white folks!”

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 5:09:35pm

re: #232 jaunte

Spinach tamales and Valentina salsa picante. Nom.

I’m making chicken noodle soup for the husband tonight. Where what that really means is I will chop up some veggies and saute them, and then add chicken broth (from Better than Bullion) and chicken from a can and two kinds of noodles and call it soup.

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 5:11:38pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s about five steps more complicated than my ‘go to the liquor store for wine, buy tamales, add cheese, heat.’

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Belafon Jan 6, 2017 • 5:12:43pm

Another thought about this election: Not only was it about racism, but I think there are a lot of people that, when given too much free time, look for ways to interfere in other people’s business. I’m talking about the “Christians” that need to save us all from gay marriage, abortion, and whatever else they get in their heads (but don’t suggest that people shouldn’t worship money).

We’ve talked about what we should do as automation takes more and more jobs. One suggestion is to cut back on the work week. Which would be a good idea, but then you’d have even more people with free time. I could suggest education for the other two days, which would be really good for learning the skills needed for future jobs, but there would be people who would think they need to do something else, like seeing if what you are doing is a good thing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 5:12:46pm

re: #235 jaunte

That’s about five steps more complicated than my ‘go to the liquor store for wine, buy tamales, add cheese, heat.’

I’m trying to make him feel better. I did offer to add matzo balls but he decided that was too much work for me and he didn’t need them.

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 5:13:02pm

re: #225 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Clearly the FBI had more important things on their plate in November, like helping Trump win the election.

Sarcasm aside, I don’t know what options would have been available. We can say, here, that someone who is clearly not operating on the same plane of reality as the rest of us shouldn’t have access to guns but it remains very unclear to me what mechanisms exist to remove his access to guns - or how long he would need to be under treatment before he would be able to get them back, or what checks there are to make sure he’s continuing treatment once he has them back. And that drives to one of the main issues here - access to guns is way too easy and the threshold to lose them is high. Higher than the threshold to lose your right to vote, it feels like.*

* This all assumes that there is a component of mental illness at play here that is manifesting outwardly, or at least making him more susceptible to suggestion, and that too is an assumption in and of itself because mental illness by itself does not make one more violent.

Trying to get any common sense legislation regarding guns is a waste of time, the government is kowtowing to the gun lobby for the unforeseeable future and there is no way that any sanity legislation is even whispered because Trump will trying to get re-elected and he needs the crazy vote.

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 5:13:14pm

Obamacare to be replaced with ThoughtsAndPrayersCare.

— Hank Thompson (@Hank_Thompson) January 6, 2017

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 5:15:17pm

re: #238 b.d.

Trying to get any common sense legislation regarding guns is a waste of time, the government is kowtowing to the gun lobby for the unforeseeable future and there is no way that any sanity legislation is even whispered because Trump will trying to get re-elected and he needs the crazy vote.

Oh, I know. The GOP couldn’t even bring themselves to support universal background checks. I have no delusions about the state of politics or progress in that area right now. What I know less about is what the state of current regulation is, such as that might be.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 5:19:51pm

Never saw this before. this is very cool.

Bruce Springsteen - You Never Can Tell

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 5:22:35pm

Uphill Skiing Gains Traction https://t.co/mXB5A5tD4l via @skimagonline

— USSMA (@USSMA_SkiMo) January 7, 2017

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I find this a great way to steal from big ski areas. Hike up just far enough to access the upper lifts, where they don’t scan tickets. Great workout, too!

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Anymouse Jan 6, 2017 • 5:22:46pm

re: #10 blueraven

Maybe because he had military ID?

Nope. Anyone can check a gun and/or ammunition. Has nothing to do with military IDs, thanks. This is easy information for even non-military or non-military veterans to look up.

That said, I presume the regulation exists because of folk who do things like sport shooting, hunting, &c + NRA lobbying.

Regulations for checking firearms from the TSA:

tsa.gov

You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be easily opened are not permitted. Be aware that the container the firearm was in when purchased may not adequately secure the firearm when it is transported in checked baggage.

Contact the TSA Contact Center with questions you have regarding TSA firearm regulations and for clarification on what you may or may not transport in your carry-on or checked baggage.

(More at TSA)

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 5:23:04pm

re: #240 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh, I know. The GOP couldn’t even bring themselves to support universal background checks. I have no delusions about the state of politics or progress in that area right now. What I know less about is what the state of current regulation is, such as that might be.

The only way the GOP would consider gun legislation is if the Muslims or African Americans start using the 2nd Amendment the way the white wingnut militia folks do…

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 5:24:09pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

GAAAAHHH!!!

I gotta tell you, the folks who are cannot conceive of multiple causes of an event drive me nuts.

Today’s report from the IC, unsurprisingly, has a lot of Dems saying that the Russian actions MAY have won the election for Trump. The margin of Trump’s victory is basically 80,000 votes in 3 states out of 13.9 Million votes cast. That’s a small enough margin that saying out of hand that Russian hacking/leaking/trolling didn’t swing it is every bit as unproven as that it DID swing it. And in every one of those states, the ‘Other’ vote is at least 5x bigger than Trump’s margin.

But no, there are all sorts of clowns out there saying, “It wasn’t the Russians! She was a flawed candidate!/Comey/Emails/She didn’t pay enough attention to the white folks!”

Exactly, we can’t look at the Russian hacking effort by itself, it was part of a confluence of factors that included Wikileaks as the fence for the stolen information and the national media as the crooked referee peddling a false equivalence narrative that overhyped the importance of the leaks in order to profit off of a close election narrative. Add in the overtly unethical, baseless, and in my opinion illegal, last minute election influence committed by Comey, the obviation of the popular vote & I don’t think it’s at all a stretch to call the end result “corrupted” if not outright stolen.

Which is what’s really dangerous for the country going forward, deep down Trump KNOWS he doesn’t deserve the Presidency but he’s such a damaged personality that only psychological tools for dealing with that fact are deceit, denial and externalized rage.

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 5:26:14pm

re: #243 Anymouse

Nope. Anyone can check a gun and/or ammunition. Has nothing to do with military IDs, thanks. This is easy information for even non-military or non-military veterans to look up.

That said, I presume the regulation exists because of folk who do things like sport shooting, hunting, &c + NRA lobbying.

Regulations for checking firearms from the TSA:

tsa.gov

Ya know, if we allowed the TSA folks to unionize and maybe make a middle class living at their job then maybe we could train them to spot potential warning signs of folks with guns?
(More at TSA)

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blueraven Jan 6, 2017 • 5:28:43pm

Remember when Fox news “straight” news anchor, Bret Baier reported, just days before the election, that FBI was likely to hand down indictment against Clinton Foundation?

Later he apologized for using the word “indictment” since that is not the purview of the FBI, but didn’t back off from general story. Now I am wondering about his “sources”.

In his original report on Wednesday, Baier said his sources also told him this: “The Clinton Foundation investigation is so expansive, they have interviewed and re-interviewed many people. They described the evidence they have as ‘a lot of it’ and said there is an ‘avalanche coming in every day.’ “

That is very different from what the New York Times reported on the same day: “The investigation, based in New York, had not developed much evidence and was based mostly on information that had surfaced in news stories and the book ‘Clinton Cash,’ according to several law enforcement officials briefed on the case.”

All the big conservative media covered this…sans the retraction part.

As of Friday morning, Sean Hannity’s website still has a story on its home page about Baier’s “bombshell report.” Hot Air’s home page employs the same language: “Bombshell: FBI’s ‘far more expansive’ Clinton investigations leading to ‘likely indictment.’ “

A headline on Right Side Broadcasting’s home page tells readers that “FBI sources believe Clinton Foundation case moving towards ‘likely indictment.’ “

Uncorrected articles about a “likely” indictment in the Clinton Foundation case also can be found on the home pages of Breitbart, Western Journalism and Info wars, among others.

All these stories left out what Baier said Thursday, when he first walked back the story:

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 5:29:23pm

yep, lol, this is the America we are supposed to blindly live in now…

I bet Donald Trump still thinks Liberace may not have been gay.

And that he had excellent taste.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) January 6, 2017

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teleskiguy Jan 6, 2017 • 5:29:49pm

Already 0° F at my twenty. It got down to -44° F in Walden, CO last night. Brr!

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 5:30:59pm

re: #246 b.d.

A union organizer at TSA is one of the most likely candidates to be targeted with the $1-a-year salary punishment the geniuses just resurrected.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 5:31:07pm

I never heard of this song before but after listening to it …

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - jazz musician

… I believe it evolved into this

Bruce Springsteen - The Angel

I kind of like the earlier version better

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 5:31:42pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Damn Methodists and their potlucks.

Are the potlucks fabulous?

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 5:32:18pm

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

I think the housing bubble crash was the opportunity that Putin was looking for to begin a full court press on destabilizing the west, and ever since then working toward that goal has been the primary objective of just about every Russian government agency.

The *only* thing that has held any of this back was the Obama-led economic recovery and keeping the price of petroleum cratered. Even with these 2 things, look where we are now. Image if the Great Recession lasted longer and (in CA prices anyway) gas never went from $5/gal to $2/gal…

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jan 6, 2017 • 5:32:33pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

Are the potlucks fabulous?

Depends how much you like jello salad.

And possibly what use that gets put to.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2017 • 5:33:57pm

Where was this stuff hiding all these years.

Bruce Springsteen- If i was the priest

IF I WAS THE PRIEST {Transcribed and researched by springsteenlyrics.com}
Studio version

Well, there’s a light on yonder mountain
And it’s calling me to shine
There’s a girl over by the water fountain
And she’s asking to be mine
And ain’t that Jesus, he’s standing in the doorway
With a buckskin jacket, boots and spurs, so really fine
He says, “We need you up in Dodge City, son
‘Cause there’s, oh, so many bad boys trying to work the same line”

Well, now if Jesus was the sheriff and I was the priest
If my lady was an heiress and my Mama was a thief
Oh, and Papa rode shotgun for the Fargo line
There’s still too many bad boys trying to work the same line

Now old sweet Virgin Mary, she runs the Holy Grail saloon
Where for a nickel they’ll give you whiskey and a personally blessed balloon
And the Holy Ghost, he’s the host with the most, he runs the burlesque show
Where they let you in for free but, oh, hit you for your soul when you go
And Mary serves Mass on Sunday and then she sells her body on Monday to the boot maker who will pay the highest price
But he don’t know he got stuck with a loser, Mary’s a stone junkie, what’s more she’s a boozer
She’s only been made once or twice by some kind of magic

And, well, things ain’t been the same in heaven ever since big bad Bobby came to town
He’s been known to down eleven and then ask for another round
And me I got scabs on my knees from kneeling way too long
You gotta take a stand, be the man, up where you belong
And forget about the old friends and the old times
Because there’s just too many new boys trying to work the same line

Now if Jesus was the sheriff and I were the priest
If my lady was an heiress and my Mama was a thief
Oh, and Papa rode shotgun for the Fargo line
There’s still too many outlaws trying to work the same line

Now there’s a light on yonder mountain
And it’s calling me to shine
There’s a girl by the water fountain
And she’s asking to be mine
And Jesus, he’s standing in the doorway
With his six-guns drawn and ready to fan
He says, “We need you, son, up in Dodge City”
But I’m already overdue in Cheyenne

springsteenlyrics.com
Sure the lyrics are a bit overblown but also cool. What do want for a hungry 22 yr old kid.

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 5:35:10pm

re: #253 Jack Burton

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 5:35:59pm

re: #250 jaunte

A union organizer at TSA is one of the most likely candidates to be targeted with the $1-a-year salary punishment the geniuses just resurrected.

I really don’t see how that rule survives a Bill of Attainder challenge.

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jaunte Jan 6, 2017 • 5:38:02pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

I hope so.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2017 • 5:38:19pm

Everyone has to turn in their computers for an abacus and a carrier pigeon. @ReutersWorld

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) January 7, 2017

Reply Reply w/ Quote

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b.d. Jan 6, 2017 • 5:40:08pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

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I can’t wait to see who the 1st Secretary of Cyber is.

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Anymouse Jan 6, 2017 • 5:40:52pm

re: #61 Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)

I just can’t get over the strange & uncharted waters we find ourselves in. For most of my youth, I watched as various members of my family joined the military to hold back the Russian menace to our way of life.

Some of those members never came back. Some came back … but not really.

I can relate. My grandparents on both sides of my family fought in WW2 (my paternal grandfather did not come back). My great-uncle was in the Navy (and was rescued when a destroyer was shot out from under him).

My parents were both in the Navy during the Cold War (and my father did not come back).

My sister was in the Army and I was in the Navy, also during the Cold War.

Now, it would seem that the minority-President-Elect wants to throw all that under the bus. Thanks, conservatives.

I was reading an article about a statement made by a former CIA director about how the intelligence community is rarely appreciated because much of what they do cannot be made public; a couple commentators wrote back saying they had called the CIA’s main desk at Langley, asking the person who answered the phone to pass along their appreciation for what the CIA does every day.

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 5:43:20pm

re: #184 makeitstop

I watched that stream for nearly 20 minutes. Probably the most pointlessly funny thing I’ve seen in a while.

While I was watching they decided to get married and have 7 kids, and the male thing got mad because the female thing didn’t know the names of the kids they planned to have. :)

The other day I had the Dan Patrick (Sports talk) Show on and Dan mentioned he got an Amazon Echo for Christmas.

He started calling out Alexa commands on air as did his four “Danettes” assistants.

A couple minutes later the show was getting emails, text messages and phone calls asking for him to stop because he was firing off listeners devices.

Modern problems.

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Jack Burton Jan 6, 2017 • 5:44:34pm

re: #260 b.d.

I can’t wait to see who the 1st Secretary of Cyber is.

That’s “Secretary of The Cyber”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2017 • 5:45:14pm

re: #232 jaunte

Spinach tamales and Valentina salsa picante. Nom.

supper tonight here in the Backwoods is shrimp, tomatoes, spinach, sweet onion, garlic, fresh oregano & basil, and fettuccine.

I am stuffed like a tick.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2017 • 5:45:22pm

re: #260 b.d.

I can’t wait to see who the 1st Secretary of Cyber is.

One of these guys?

Who is this Sy Berman I keep hearing about?

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baileylamb Jan 6, 2017 • 5:47:02pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Like I’ve said from day one. We have small kids. I’m not doing well at all. I’m trying to convince the inlaws that this is very very bad and to help us leave the country.

A lot of ppl (including my husband) seem to think something magical will happen and it wont be that bad. But I can’t have my kids grow up in Jim Crow 2.0

I do think there’s one lazy thing I think ppl in the West can do to stop the spread of fascism.

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Anymouse Jan 6, 2017 • 5:49:05pm

re: #93 MsJ

I work from home and if I never had to leave the house I’d be perfectly fine.

I had to go to the general store today, so I had to un-freeze one of my doors to get out of the house first. (Probably should have done that anyway, for fire safety and such.) Getting out isn’t something I do much.

I suppose that worked out okay, right after I got back from the store (and my mailbox) the village clerk came by with the agenda for next Monday’s meeting.

I told her I would not protest the water bill from our water break; it was about $20 higher than average. She thanked me for saving her a bunch of paperwork.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2017 • 5:50:02pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

Are the potlucks fabulous?

yes.
so much, yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2017 • 5:51:10pm

re: #260 b.d.

I can’t wait to see who the 1st Secretary of Cyber is.

Barron

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ObserverArt Jan 6, 2017 • 5:54:14pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

By the way, I’m really getting frustrated with that element of the left who believes this is all a big ruse by the intelligence agency and “Neo-cons” to start a war with Russia. I’m just tired of that element of the left that thinks we should throw our government under the bus in favor of someone like Assenge who clearly doesn’t have our country’s interests at heart.

re: #204 HappyWarrior

And it was more than just the email hacking. It was the spreading of misinformation through fake news. And honestly, if your argument is “Well the US has interfered before too so we deserve it.” Fuck off, that’s a stupid argument. That’s like saying because we have killed civilians in combat before that we had no right to treat the Axis who delibartely targeted civilian populations as war criminals. I’m no America fuck yeah type but the America fuck no types are just as bad.

Damn Happy, I see those exact comments in those exact words on some forums I visit. So, it must be very common among the far left folks that are more pissed off that Bernie was screwed by the DNC and the emails proved it than Russia and Assange.

Once again…at the top of The Circle of Derp, just derping along are the wingnuts and moonbeams.

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2017 • 6:04:08pm

re: #183 gocart mozart

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Obummer says for you to fuck off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2017 • 6:05:08pm

re: #241 gocart mozart

This is sooooooo much fun!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ckkatz Jan 6, 2017 • 6:06:07pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Jagoff.

Up-ding for the Yinzer reference!

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 6, 2017 • 6:08:28pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Does the “wrong” Esteban have grounds to sue that muckbrain?

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Anymouse Jan 6, 2017 • 6:15:04pm

re: #175 wrenchwench

That will be good for a lot of people to see. Many in the far west do not believe this kind of thing is happening in real time.

Yeah we do. And a lot of people here voted specifically for it.

That rancher north of me still has his Nazi flag and Dixie Swastikas on his ranch entrance in Gordon. The village of Gordon has been unable to get him to remove them (or quit distributing white supremacist newspapers in town).

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Anymouse Jan 6, 2017 • 6:19:57pm

re: #187 I cannot.

What’s even more fun is when you discover not a screw or fastener, but a entirely different part that you swear wasn’t in the instructions, you check, and its still not there.

And you have no idea to this day what its purpose in existing is, other than to vex you.

In the military we called those “brother-in-law effect” parts.

I have a brother-in-law who owns a screw factory, and I can subcontract with him to throw him some Defense Department contracts for screws.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jan 6, 2017 • 7:28:45pm

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

Tee-hee. Trump is more like “President-enfeebled”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jan 6, 2017 • 7:31:40pm

re: #154 Skip Intro

I like the one I got from my friends’s daughter…

Spy Auto

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