Wikileaks Threatens to Dox All Verified Twitter Users, Then Deletes the Tweet

Creepy threatening tweet goes down the memory hole
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Wikileaks has been openly cheering on Donald Trump lately, after putting up a facade of being “impartial” during the election even as they clearly pursued a vendetta and smear campaign against Hillary Clinton. For example:

But today Wikileaks crossed a big red line and woke up a lot of people to their true agenda: they posted a tweet calling for the doxing of all “verified” Twitter users.

That tweet doesn’t look like a real embedded tweet because they’ve now deleted it, after a large number of Twitter users filed reports. Twitter’s @safety account even subtweeted Wikileaks (and this may have been why it was deleted):

But I got a screenshot before the tweet disappeared for good. Remember, they may have deleted it, but that doesn’t mean they’re not still planning to do it.

And as a closer, here’s a little something to help you have a warm, safe feeling about the fast-approaching Trump Horror:

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438 comments

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gocart mozart  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:42:46pm

Bruce Springsteen - Preacher’s Daughter

I got a date with the preacher’s daughter
She give me life, she bring me water
Every Sunday I watch her work
Pretty little self in a pretty little church
Daddy gives her a nod, she takes collection
Her daddy gives her a nod, she kneels by his side
Well I’d sell my soul for just one touch
The good Lord would too if he loved her half as much
Well I got a date with the preacher’s daughter
Hmmm

Daddy say that them boys no good
Just wanna race some coons out through the back woods
Well baby better believe what your daddy say
I just wanna ramrod, baby, my life away
It’s a long walk to heaven and a road filled with sin
And they better open up the freeway to let me in
‘Cause I got a date with the preacher’s daughter
Hmmm-hmmm-hmmm-hmmm

Well now I don’t care what the preacher say
Heyyy-hey-yeah
I don’t care what the preacher do
Heyyy-hey-yeah
I don’t care what the preacher like
Heyyy-hey-yeah
I don’t care what the preacher think
Heyyy-hey-yeah
He leads me to water but won’t let me drink
He leads me to water but won’t let me drink
Big Man!

[maracas start, music picks up]

And now out on this little road on Saturday night
Two boys fighting in a halo of light
Car door flung open, radio loud
And everybody shouting and running around
Two guys bloody, over what I don’t know
And all the little girls shouting, “Go Billy go, go Billy go”

Well just as I got the preacher’s daughter ready for a light
Yeah Mister, the V-8 is firing but something ain’t right
And like a she-devil howling from the gates of hell
Goddamn here come the preacher in his Coupe De Ville
Burning up the back road, kicking in the dirt
Whoa-oh baby, preacher thinks he’s in church
Well now your lips they shine in the willow mist
And I swear I’d take your daddy on, girl, for just one kiss
I got a date with the preacher’s daughter
I got a date with the preacher’s daughter, hey!
And it’s heyyy-whoaaa-hmmm
I got a date with the preacher’s daughter, hmmm

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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:45:32pm

best journo response i’ve seen:

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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:47:27pm

Can Soros just buy Twitter and shut it down?

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baileylamb  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:51:29pm

I think people really need to boycott the source off all this, and call companies to do the same.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:51:52pm

re: #2 b.d.

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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:53:58pm

LOL, Trump should really pressure Ryan to subpoena Julian to testify in front of congress.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:55:14pm

So my wife didn’t want to deal with the weather this weekend up in the mountains and stayed home. She just called me. She’s sitting in our neighbor’s pre-school classroom with her and Craig, who went missing on December 14th…a few pounds lighter, and definitely in need of a bath…but he didn’t fall victim to the pack of coyotes in the neighborhood. I’m so fuckin’ happy for her…and Craig…and Eartha the other kitten, and Banjo…and me.

I’m just really fucking happy.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:55:18pm
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prairiefire  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:56:17pm

re: #7 darthstar

Great news!

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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:56:19pm
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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:57:09pm

re: #7 darthstar

Great news!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:57:30pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:01pm

Say what you want about Arnie’s infidelities, he’s got more Real American in his little finger than Donald Trump has in his whole body.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:58:47pm

re: #7 darthstar

So my wife didn’t want to deal with the weather this weekend up in the mountains and stayed home. She just called me. She’s sitting in our neighbor’s pre-school classroom with her and Craig, who went missing on December 14th…a few pounds lighter, and definitely in need of a bath…but he didn’t fall victim to the pack of coyotes in the neighborhood. I’m so fuckin’ happy for her…and Craig…and Eartha the other kitten, and Banjo…and me.

I’m just really fucking happy.

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So glad he was found! Outdoor kits are tough.

Beautiful photo with Eartha. Luv.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 5:59:04pm

DJT may think he has access to my private information, but he has no fucking idea what else there is to know about me.

While he was dodging STDs back in the 60s, some of us were learning very hard lessons.

I remember those lessons.

And I’m not the only one.

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KGxvi  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:00:54pm

re: #10 b.d.

It’s so nice to know that a mere two weeks from taking on one of the most difficult and trying jobs in the entire history of the world, Trump has time to talk shit about a guy hosting a TV show.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:02:38pm

re: #7 darthstar

I am so happy with you!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:03:02pm

re: #7 darthstar

Glad the kitten has made his way back home.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:03:18pm

Pointy fingers are pointy, pointy.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:07:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:13:36pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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Flipping the bird is now ISIS finger?

Fuck that…flips two birds.

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No Depression  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:16:59pm

How Trump imagines hacking:

Deus Ex best buy mission

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:19:39pm

bIPd83NLAOQR7jGgONWxurfkVYzhlViNs5HwPJewT1vtQPTGdHJANn7I/7cQ1hiqujQJZSXi7/5oDJVXmMfmxPCLh1vc5dJysv8NHQcuRs8TKgje2YfKt7qWdG+VdtbQz69FcYu4oQ4mbL09q44UVw==

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:20:25pm

Another poor kit. All is OK.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:20:27pm

re: #19 jaunte

Pointy fingers are pointy, pointy.

Stabby. Tiny stabby pointy fingers of ISIS.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:30:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:31:39pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Another poor kit. All is OK.

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And the cat was fine. Probably had a nice nap up there.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:34:40pm

ZING!

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danarchy  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:35:02pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flipping the bird is now ISIS finger?

Fuck that…flips two birds.

Pssst…if you’ve been using your index finger to flip the bird you’ve been doing it wrong

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:35:16pm

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

Say what you want about Arnie’s infidelities, he’s got more Real American in his little finger than Donald Trump has in his whole body.

Immigrant that made his own way beats wealthy spoiled son every time.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:36:31pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Phaethon

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:37:22pm
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:38:31pm

Carried over from the previous thread:

re: #187 I cannot.

What’s even more fun is when you discover not a screw or fastener, but a entirely different part that you swear wasn’t in the instructions, you check, and its still not there.

And you have no idea to this day what its purpose in existing is, other than to vex you.

In the military we called those “brother-in-law effect” parts.

I have a brother-in-law who owns a screw factory, and I can subcontract with him to throw him some Defense Department contracts for screws.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:40:07pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Another poor kit. All is OK.

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In Kentucky this week, this happened:

“You couldn’t even hold her without her screaming in pain,” said Gibowski. “We took x-rays and found that every single rib had been broken on both sides.”

wkyt.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:41:03pm
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:41:13pm

With Donald Trump still whinging on Twitter about automobile manufacturers using foreign parts and threatening them with punitive tariffs (the latest being Toyota), an industry advocate weighs in.

He notes that no car has been made entirely of American parts since the Model T.

huffingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:42:19pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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Charles, how will we ever stop terrorism if we don’t show the ISIS finger salute in images???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:48:20pm

re: #29 danarchy

Pssst…if you’ve been using your index finger to flip the bird you’ve been doing it wrong

I can go beyond the usually recognized.
I can flip the bird like Rahm Emanuel when needed.

I’m ambi-fingered.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:48:29pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

ZING!

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Damn…I thought drink prices in Columbus were high, but on average many of the clubs I would go to and catch bands I could buy three. And I bet I’d get a better drink knowing how cheap Trump is about everything.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:48:50pm

We are so up against it.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:50:09pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Hello?

I’d like to pay my mortgage with sense of accomplishment.

…and apply stature to my credit rating.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:52:09pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Funny, isn’t it, how the ones at the top of the pyramid are NEVER interested in giving up some compensation in exchange for a “sense of accomplishment?”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:52:33pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:53:51pm

I need to ask Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell if people will be able to purchase their new and improved non-health insurance with stature & sense of accomplishment.

I’m gonna start calling Carl’s Puzder…Pudzer.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:54:21pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

Damn…I thought drink prices in Columbus were high, but on average many of the clubs I would go to and catch bands I could buy three. And I bet I’d get a better drink knowing how cheap Trump is about everything.

At my local watering hole, one could get seven house cocktails and some of the tip for that. $3.00 Happy Hour. NoHo area FFS. All hipster nice.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:54:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:55:30pm

He’s playing everyone with his senility.

Remember, last person he speaks with.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:55:46pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Do you think the American media would ever admit they got played?

Nah. They would say it was mentioned and you need to be the judge.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:56:03pm

re: #41 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Hello?

I’d like to pay my mortgage with sense of accomplishment.

…and apply stature to my credit rating.

Hello, plumber I called on Christmas Eve to shut off my water after my flood?

You should appreciate your sense of accomplishment in being able to come out sixty miles to my house and get my plumbing fixed. Yeah, I don’t think so.

Hello homeowner’s insurance company? Thank you for paying my plumber. That should give you quite a sense of accomplishment. Will you accept that instead of my premium?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:57:59pm

I just got an e-mail reminding me of an upcoming doctor’s appointment on Monday.

…except when I scheduled my physical, I scheduled it for Thursday. And of course I get the e-mail after the office has closed for the weekend, and the appointment is early enough in the day that I will just have to show up or else risk getting stuck with the bill for not showing up.

WTF? I don’t mind a change in my appointment time, but I would have thought that would warrant a phone call. I even logged in to check and it looks like my appointment on Thursday has just been moved to Monday, because there’s no record of an appointment on Thursday now. (I did check my e-mail records to see that yes, it was originally scheduled then.)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 6:58:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:00:11pm

Lake Alice is smack dab in the middle of campus

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jhncsy  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:03:38pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Jesus. I mean, I figured we’d have to fight against bread and circuses for white people. The modern Republican party is running on pain and misery for everyone, their base included. How the hell does anyone look at these pricks and say “I want them!… to fuck me over.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:03:51pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

He’s playing everyone with his senility.

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Remember, last person he speaks with.

Like Rand Paul has a replacement.

Oh wait! It’s Kynect!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:05:13pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:10:28pm

re: #55 Barefoot Grin

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Hey…I finished listening to “In Color” just acouple hours ago. Been awhile since I listened to it. I play the first album a lot while working on my old house project. Keeps me going!

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:10:35pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

We are so up against it.

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IOW, the “dignity of work” bullshit.

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electrotek  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:11:05pm

Love Moby to this day still (even though he has the cheesiest DJ sets these days):

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:12:19pm
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:18:54pm

re: #55 Barefoot Grin

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That first album, man. What a calling card.

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whitebeach  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:21:10pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Lake Alice is smack dab in the middle of campus

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I love having a serious live mascot right there on campus, // just like the late Mike the Tiger at LSU. What a beautiful creature. I wonder if there’ll ever be another Mike the Tiger in Baton Rouge, given what’s happening to Bengal tigers in the wild. Maybe some kind of rescue and/or breeding program.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:25:39pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Hey…I finished listening to “In Color” just acouple hours ago. Been awhile since I listened to it. I play the first album a lot while working on my old house project. Keeps me going!

There’s a Steve Albini reboot of that album that’s really good - the band had a couple of days off and went to Albini’s studio and re-recorded all of it.

It’s a lot more raw than the original, and it rocks.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:27:41pm
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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:28:26pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

They are a glazed looking pair….

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b.d.  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:35:42pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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look at Tucker’s eyes. he ain’t right.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:35:46pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:36:29pm

Too subtle?

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:39:12pm

re: #55 Barefoot Grin

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Video

re: #60 makeitstop

That first album, man. What a calling card.

Did either of you (or any other lizard Cheap Trick fans) ever see this somewhat unknown movie from 1979. It was one of the first Orion Picture releases. It had Matt Dillon, Vincent Spano, Pamela Ludwig and a bunch of other real young actors.

It was about disenfranchised youth living in a hum-drum, planned community and revolting. It is not a great film, but decent and I guess it was based on a real story from somewhere in California. The kids get bored with it all and start to tear up the town, etc. They actually did the movie in Aurora Colorado close to Columbine. Strange that.

Cheap Trick songs are used throughout the film. I did like that.

Here is the YouTube of it in case anyone is bored and wants to watch it. It is long…3+ hours according to the time posted at YouTube. In a way it is a historical document of some of the “controlled community” thinking of the 70s

Over the Edge (1979) Full Movie

I think I’ve mentioned before, I saw them on one of their very first national tours when their first album had just started getting a lot of FM air play.

They started the set with “elo kiddies” and they had me as a fan after the first minute. They were that dynamic is their sound, look…everything!

I gotta play it now…here it is if interested for a nice late night ass kicker.

Cheap Trick - ELO Kiddies

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:42:03pm

re: #65 b.d.

look at Tucker’s eyes. he ain’t right.

He’s never been right about, well, anything.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:48:00pm

(reposted from downstairs)

Got this from my friend’s daughter:

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:49:48pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:51:38pm

Oops. That “Over the Edge” movie link does nothing. Strange. I should have tested it before posting. Oh well.

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whitebeach  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:54:35pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

We are so up against it.

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I’d love to know what this asshole’s paychecks translated to in hourly wage over the past ten or twenty years.

One more thing: For obvious reasons, a disproportionate amount of overtime in this country goes to people whose jobs have to be done right now, tonight, no matter if the clock runs long: cops, firefighters, other first responders, as well as folks like electric linemen, snowplow operators, and on and on. These are the same people that GOP campaign commercials always portray as heroes, but of course many of them are union members, which means that what the GOP really wants to do is make them peons begging for minimum wage jobs. And then kill minimum wage.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 7:56:48pm

As a reminder:

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:04:44pm
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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:06:57pm
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:09:19pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Did either of you (or any other lizard Cheap Trick fans) ever see this somewhat unknown movie from 1979. It was one of the first Orion Picture releases. It had Matt Dillon, Vincent Spano, Pamela Ludwig and a bunch of other real young actors.

It was about disenfranchised youth living in a hum-drum, planned community and revolting. It is not a great film, but decent and I guess it was based on a real story from somewhere in California. The kids get bored with it all and start to tear up the town, etc. They actually did the movie in Aurora Colorado close to Columbine. Strange that.

Cheap Trick songs are used throughout the film. I did like that.

Here is the YouTube of it in case anyone is bored and wants to watch it. It is long…3+ hours according to the time posted at YouTube. In a way it is a historical document of some of the “controlled community” thinking of the 70s

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I’ve seen it a couple of times. Pretty cool movie on its own, and CT in the soundtrack was a nice bonus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:09:24pm

re: #65 b.d.

look at Tucker’s eyes. he ain’t right.

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:10:14pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

:^P

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:12:18pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

Not any blowup sex doll I’ve ever seen (wait, whut?)

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:14:51pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

You know this how???

: )

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:16:17pm

re: #75 Anymouse

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:16:57pm

The Rude Pundit went quiet for a while after the election, but I think he’s gotten back up to speed.

We’re all supposed to nod our heads and respect these shitheels while they mock liberals and are ennobled by the rank nonsense of those who desperately want to justify the racism, etc. because otherwise they have to admit that they are surrounded by horrible, hateful fucks. But I won’t do that precisely because I have more respect for these dumbass motherfuckers than any of the wannabe Jane Goodalls observing the ways of the chimps. How do I have more respect? Because I don’t treat them like fucking children or a hidden Amazon tribe whose language is clicks and trills. We’re talking about fucking grown-ups who make fucking grown-up decisions, and I’m gonna treat them like grown-ups. And their attitudes towards urban Americans are no less elitist than the dumbass motherfuckers on the coasts who lump everyone else into flyover country.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:17:07pm

Wait I thought blow up sex was an ISIS / daesh thing?

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:18:55pm

I must say that this is subtly brilliant code work from our humble host.

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whitebeach  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:20:17pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

Jesus Christ, sleuth, I know you’re well and widely experienced, as many here are, including me, but now I’m a little worried about what’s in your attic.

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ObserverArt  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:21:39pm

re: #84 Unshaken Defiance

Wait I thought blow up sex was an ISIS / daesh thing?

I think I found Sleuths “Doll.”

Oddly enough there is a resemblance to Greenwald???

Airplane! Autopilot

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:23:45pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

I think I found Sleuths “Doll.”

Oddly enough there is a resemblance to Greenwald???

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Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:24:51pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Because my stature and sense of accomplishment will TOTALLY pay my bills!

*spit*

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:25:23pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Because my stature and sense of accomplishment will TOTALLY pay my bills!

*spit*

What, you don’t do work for the exposure?

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:29:14pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

We actually had that happen to our cat about 30 years ago. She had a bad habit of snoozing on the raised door, which she was able to access from our Colt Vista’s roof, and one time we closed the door with her still atop. Although most of her was inside the garage with one leg pointing out through the first or second joint down from the door’s top.

Considering that we buried her 11 years ago, I’d say she came out of it just fine. Kittehs are very resilient. :-D

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:29:31pm

re: #90 thedopefishlives

What, you don’t do work for the exposure?

*shudder*

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blueraven  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:29:53pm

Yes!

Edit: Local news link here

journalpatriot.com

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:30:54pm

re: #91 Chrysicat

I have a friend quote a vet, that if a cat and its broken limbs are in the same room, it will recover. It might have a hitch in the getalong, but it will get around.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:37:44pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

re: #81 ObserverArt

You know this how???

: )

re: #86 whitebeach

Jesus Christ, sleuth, I know you’re well and widely experienced, as many here are, including me, but now I’m a little worried about what’s in your attic.

Well, it’s part of my job (erotic Romance editor, not village trustee), so I have an excuse. I suppose if I made enough money for itemised deductions on my taxes, I could write several off as “research materials.” (ewww)

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:38:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:44:24pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

You know this how???

: )

I have seen pictures on the internet…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:46:05pm

re: #86 whitebeach

Jesus Christ, sleuth, I know you’re well and widely experienced, as many here are, including me, but now I’m a little worried about what’s in your attic.

hey! Somebody has to call out this stuff!

sorry, not sorry…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:47:02pm

I see Gus changed his AVI to a Tucker Greenwald hybrid….

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:48:55pm

Wonkette, in their usual snarky manner, takes on Rep. Duncan Hunter. He went on FOX News with Tucker Carlson to justify his removal of a drawing another representative put up as the winner of a contest which detailed the police in Ferguson as warthogs and protesters as wolves, with an African-American crucified on the Scales of Justice.

Duncan “rabbit transit” Hunter is one of those seeking to get rid of the Congressional Ethics office (I’m sure it has nothing to do with him using campaign funds to fly a pet rabbit to Washington, or his son using campaign funds to buy video games).

Rep. Hunter insists it’s not about censorship though.

I think Rep. Hunter has too much time on his hands, if his conservative fee-fees are hurt by a high school art project so much he needed to find staffers with a screwdriver to remove it.

Grifty Rep Duncan Hunter Having John Ashcroft Boob-Draping Moment (goes to Wonkette)

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whitebeach  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:49:06pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have seen pictures on the internet…

And Mr. BWS gone only, what, 24 hours on blizzard duty? Girl …

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:49:29pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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I know RawStory headlines are sometime “out there,” but I think they covered this one well:

Even dead people are declining to perform for Trump

(it’s a Newsweek story, so not sure if that was the original Newsweek header.)

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:49:47pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have seen pictures on the internet…

I read about it in book drafts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 8:56:23pm

re: #101 whitebeach

And Mr. BWS gone only, what, 24 hours on blizzard duty? Girl …

Surprisingly, he’s still here. Just waiting for the call (and, truthfully, I do hope this will be one of those cases of over the top OMG-WE’RE-ALL-GONNA-DIE scenarios)

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:00:18pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surprisingly, he’s still here. Just waiting for the call (and, truthfully, I do hope this will be one of those cases of over the top OMG-WE’RE-ALL-GONNA-DIE scenarios)

I live in a city where 2” is enough to shut the place down for hours. We’re now projected to get up to 14” before end of day Saturday. As you can probably already imagine, the store shelves look like a scene from the pre-collapse USSR. The Snowmageddon is upon us.

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whitebeach  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:02:20pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surprisingly, he’s still here. Just waiting for the call (and, truthfully, I do hope this will be one of those cases of over the top OMG-WE’RE-ALL-GONNA-DIE scenarios)

It just gets worse. So you’re telling me you’re together on this blow-up doll thing. /

Seriously, looks like some snow but let’s hope nothing that calls for Mr. on an emergency basis. Here in NW La. the weatherfolk were trying to pump their ratings, since actual news doesn’s exist anymore, by throwing out dire predictions. Not a flake fell, and the temps wouldn’t kill an orchid.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:02:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:04:04pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

I live in a city where 2” is enough to shut the place down for hours. We’re now projected to get up to 14” before end of day Saturday. As you can probably already imagine, the store shelves look like a scene from the pre-collapse USSR. The Snowmageddon is upon us.

We got 2” of snow here by 6 p.m. yesterday and the entire county shut down.
It’s just so stupid.
I was prepped for this a month ago.
(Pro-tip: toilet paper is the #1 thing you do NOT want to run out of)

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:04:22pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

They’d have to be GOOD. Sidesaddle is hard, and quadrilles are hard. I’d have trouble just keeping my hat on!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:04:42pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

Riding sidesaddle, no less. Wow!

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:05:14pm

Suggested in a comment on Disqus over the bill submitted to slash funding for embassy security by 50% unless the US Embassy to Israel is moved to Jerusalem (except the embassy in Tel Aviv).

Call it the Cruz/Rubio Dead Ambassador Bill.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:07:07pm

-10° F currently. National Weather Service is forecasting *rain* on Monday.

This is not normal.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:08:03pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Saw Cheap Trick at the Newport in 1991. One of my OSU students was in a band that opened for them. I still have (somewhere) a CT guitar pick, and the awesome red boots I wore to the concert!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:08:09pm

re: #83 makeitstop

The Rude Pundit went quiet for a while after the election, but I think he’s gotten back up to speed.

A money quote for me:

It’s all bullshit. The rest of Leonard’s column is about how it seems like cities in red states are taken care of by their government, but not the rural parts of the state, where the roads need to be improved and there is a need for police and firefighters and EMTs:

Arkansas apparently spends all of its money on roads. It has beautifully clean, solid, well-paved modern roads connecting each ratty, empty, piece of shit hovel to the next, in a gorgeous spiderweb of modern transportation networking, like aliens built a path through the woods just to marvel at The Land The 20th Century Forgot as they speed through on the way to Somewhere Else.

Example: Blevins, AR, just up the road from Billy C’s hometown, literally looks like a bombed-out car junkyard… But they got churches, yes sir! Big ones! And a great road! I couldn’t believe that place when I saw it.

Bottom 5 states for poverty are also the bottom 5 for corruption, most times. This country has more money than god, but that doesn’t matter if the people running it are assholes. Same goes for the states.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:08:34pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

-10° F currently. National Weather Service is forecasting *rain* on Monday.

This is not normal.

We are below zero (down toward St. Louis), with 50° scheduled for Tuesday. Rain Monday.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:10:21pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

and GG looks like a blowup sex doll.

All I can say is EWWWWWW!

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:11:17pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

-10° F currently. National Weather Service is forecasting *rain* on Monday.

This is not normal.

Currently -8F here now, with warming into the 40’s over the next couple days (the 40’s are within the range of normal high temperatures here). We have another wind chill advisory for tonight (currently -24)

forecast.weather.gov

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Lidane  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:11:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:13:05pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:14:00pm

This fucking guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:14:03pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

-10° F currently. National Weather Service is forecasting *rain* on Monday.

This is not normal.

5F tonight, 60F on Thursday.

It’s nutz.

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:15:06pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

This fucking guy.

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Which is why reports are that the RNC was also hacked, BUT its data was not released to the public…

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:16:14pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:16:29pm

re: #113 BeachDem

Saw Cheap Trick in 1977. Went to see Kiss, but I was blown away by CP’s performance.

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:16:54pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

We got 2” of snow here by 6 p.m. yesterday and the entire county shut down.
It’s just so stupid.
I was prepped for this a month ago.
(Pro-tip: toilet paper is the #1 thing you do NOT want to run out of)

I’m not in major danger of running out of toilet paper, as I’ve been basically volunteered to stay at work for the duration. My lot in life was to be scheduled to work graveyard on the night when we’re to get slammed, while my colleague is gonna be snug as a bug back home 30 minutes away.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:23:37pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:25:51pm

Scheduled overnight low for tomorrow is 28 degrees out here on the islands abeam of Savannah. I think that will be the coldest I’ve seen here so far.

It’s currently splattering cold rain here, and the freeze line seems to be drawn from Norfolk to Montgomery. I’ve got a young friend (housemate’s boyfriend’s daughter - gotta love the chains of family out here) visiting with some other friends in Virginia, and planning on seeing Udvar-Hazy tomorrow, I hope she can make it OK.

As for me, I was thinking about day-tripping down to Daytona Beach tomorrow and kicking the tires on a Ducati 749 that I can’t afford without trading in my FZ1. I haven’t been to coastal Florida yet and I wouldn’t mind eye-humping some Italian moto goodness. Or, I could sleep in and then spend all day reading about South Carolina’s court system, in prep for the new part-time law office job I just landed across the river.

Study law, or go look at bikes… Argh, an embarrassment of fun choices.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:29:59pm

Some fun music from the past

Earth, Wind & Fire - Fantasy

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:30:45pm

re: #127 Pawn of the Oppressor

You’re experienced in the ways of cold rain and snow, what with your harrowing trip to Pagosa Springs last year. Laugh at the locals and tell them about driving through snowdrifts and high wind.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:36:56pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

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Damn. With all due respect… I’d hit it.

(Not now, obviously)

My father was at Lowry AFB in Colorado when Singin’ In The Rain came out and despite dad being a wee bit nekulturny he well-remembered the stars of the times. Talking about Debbie Reynolds’ death, he told me a lot about how Kelly, Reynolds, Newman, Taylor, etc. were regarded at the time. They were royalty enough that even he noticed. He’s never been a film fan but he said Cat on a Hot Tin Roof in particular had a big impact for being bold about bad language and other naughty, dark things.

Of course, those things weren’t half as dark as the affairs and craziness happening between the Hollywood royalty themselves… Good old 1950’s.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:37:46pm

This just in:

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:40:13pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

Yup, and funnier to me is right now all my friends and former co-workers in Dallas are losing it. I guess there were flurries and a freeze this afternoon and the accidents basically stopped all the traffic in the Metroplex… Three-hour commutes that normally take 20 minutes, etc.

I drove back home to MA for Xmas and after 12 years in DFW, Mass drivers are nothing. It was actually easy. Everybody was going SLOW. Now Delaware, on the other hand… And DC… I am never going to drive in Delaware or the DC area ever again if I can avoid it. That shit was dangerous.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:46:22pm

re: #132 Pawn of the Oppressor

Yup, and funnier to me is right now all my friends and former co-workers in Dallas are losing it. I guess there were flurries and a freeze this afternoon and the accidents basically stopped all the traffic in the Metroplex… Three-hour commutes that normally take 20 minutes, etc.

I drove back home to MA for Xmas and after 12 years in DFW, Mass drivers are nothing. It was actually easy. Everybody was going SLOW. Now Delaware, on the other hand… And DC… I am never going to drive in Delaware or the DC area ever again if I can avoid it. That shit was dangerous.

The worst storm I ever drove in (that is, bad drivers) was on a trip from Florida to Virginia Beach. A huge snowstorm hit US-58 between Emporia and Virginia Beach, and I was plodding along in a Vega.

Road was littered with cars in the ditches. As I got to Chesapeake, I heard a call on the radio for “people with four-wheel drive trucks” to take nurses, doctors, and firefighters to work.

Interestingly enough, on Interstate 64, the sides of the road were littered with four-wheel drive trucks stuck off to the sides. Plodded right along in my Vega to the oceanfront (where I lived).

It’s more about driving safely in snow than “four-wheel drive.” (On the other hand, if there had been any place to stop along US-58 to wait out the storm, I would have done that instead.)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:49:41pm

re: #133 Anymouse

4WD just enables the over-confident driver to get stuck deeper in snow, mud, sand, etc. Too many urban assault vehicle drivers figure 4WD enables them to plow ahead like they’re driving a tank or a Sno-cat.

I drove a 1970 Dodge Dart (front engine, rear wheel drive) for years through snow and and ice. I had always had good tires and I had plenty of experience driving on slick roads from living on Long Island.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:51:09pm

re: #134 wheat-dogg

4WD just enables the over-confident driver to get stuck deeper in snow, mud, sand, etc. Too many urban assault vehicle drivers figure 4WD enables them to plow ahead like they’re driving a tank or a Sno-cat.

Yup. If I can get around in a Smart, then the problem isn’t four-wheel drive, it is the driver of the four-wheel drive.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:51:16pm

re: #134 wheat-dogg

4WD just enables the over-confident driver to get stuck deeper in snow, mud, sand, etc. Too many urban assault vehicle drivers figure 4WD enables them to plow ahead like they’re driving a tank or a Sno-cat.

Yeah, unless you have studs or chains (and maybe not even then), 4WD don’t mean shit when you try to start, stop, or steer on a sheet of ice.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:52:22pm

re: #135 Anymouse

Yup. If I can get around in a Smart, then the problem isn’t four-wheel drive, it is the driver of the four-wheel drive.

The nut behind the wheel

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Alyosha  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:52:57pm

100°F here at the moment.

Trying to visualise snow and ice…
Brrr…

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prairiefire  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:53:14pm

re: #117 Anymouse

We are at 9 degrees.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:54:17pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Yeah, 4WD don’t mean shit when you try to start, stop, or steer on a sheet of ice.

When I went to the general store this afternoon, US-26 (our one paved street) was covered entirely in ice. Plodding along very carefully and slowly got me to the store.

When I came out of the store, there was a four-wheel drive truck slid off the road into the front yard of the bed-and-breakfast here, and the fellow was spinning his wheels tearing up her yard trying to get out.

Jumped in my car, stopped by him, asked him if he wanted me to call someone to get him out. Nope, kept digging up her yard. I got home and called her daughter to let her know about the guy tearing up her yard with his truck.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:55:37pm

re: #132 Pawn of the Oppressor

I very near got into a 20-car pile up this afternoon. Locals driving too fast on an icy 12-mile-long bridge through a deep canyon. Missed it by about 10 or 20 minutes.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:55:58pm
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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:56:38pm

re: #138 Alyosha

100°F here at the moment.

Trying to visualise snow and ice…
Brrr…

Here in Nashville, we got about an inch or two here in town proper (more to the north and west of town, IIRC) this morning and it’s currently in the teens; my nuts retreat into my body thinking about how much colder it must be right now where Anymouse and teleskiguy are right now.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:57:07pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Yeah, 4WD don’t mean shit when you try to start, stop, or steer on a sheet of ice.

I was wasting time one afternoon watching a YouTube channel called Dirt Every Day. It’s a guy who buys old 4WD vehicles and fixes them enough to take them off road. For one episode, he buys a Jeep Wagoneer to take a road trip with his bud and their wives to snow country. At their destination, he plows the Wagoneer along a snow covered road and gets totally stuck. He and his buddy must have spent hours trying to winch the truck out, and finally they gave up and asked someone else to pull them out.

I laughed.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 6, 2017 • 9:58:04pm

re: #140 Anymouse

You should have offered to pull him out with your Smart car. :P

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:00:37pm

re: #143 TedStriker

Here in Nashville, we got about an inch or two here in town proper (more to the north and west of town, IIRC) this morning and it’s currently in the teens; my nuts retreat into my body thinking about how much colder it must be right now where Anymouse and teleskiguy are right now.

Here my thermometer reads -10 degrees, which is a balmy warming trend compared to last night. I am not sure where teleskiguy lives, but I really don’t want to win the competition for cold spot on LGF.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:01:46pm

re: #144 wheat-dogg

I was wasting time one afternoon watching a YouTube channel called Dirt Every Day. It’s a guy who buys old 4WD vehicles and fixes them enough to take them off road. For one episode, he buys a Jeep Wagoneer to take a road trip with his bud and their wives to snow country. At their destination, he plows the Wagoneer along a snow covered road and gets totally stuck. He and his buddy must have spent hours trying to winch the truck out, and finally they gave up and asked someone else to pull them out.

I laughed.

During last year’s Snowocalypse weekend where the Nashville area got more than 6-8 inches, I logged about 500-600 miles over that weekend ferrying my fellow employees to and from work who lived in relative BFE, their apartments were downhill from the main roads and their cars were stuck, or they just couldn’t drive in the shit…and I drive a ‘09 Altima sedan.

23+ years on the road with the odd instance of winter driving experience counts for something, I suppose.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:01:55pm

re: #145 wheat-dogg

You should have offered to pull him out with your Smart car. :P

No real way to hook anything to my car, but I suppose I could have offered him a ride into town to get a tow truck.

His truck is gone now, so I assume he found someone to help him out.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:03:50pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Yeah, unless you have studs or chains (and maybe not even then), 4WD don’t mean shit when you try to start, stop, or steer on a sheet of ice.

So many times … SO MANY TIMES while driving I’ve scooted past Subarus and SUVs stuck in a snowbank and I just went about my day. I drive a Toyota Corolla. Front wheel drive. I’ve had to chain up a handful of times, and when the road is completely fucked with snow and ice I just motor on.

Snow tires are very helpful. You can accelerate, brake, and corner better than regular tires.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:06:48pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

So many times … SO MANY TIMES while driving I’ve scooted past Subarus and SUVs stuck in a snowbank and I just went about my day. I drive a Toyota Corolla. Front wheel drive. I’ve had to chain up a handful of times, and when the road is completely fucked with snow and ice I just motor on.

Snow tires are very helpful. You can accelerate, brake, and corner better than regular tires.

I don’t have snow tires, but do have all-weather tires.

That said, if the weather is bad enough I would have to put tire chains on my car, it’s probably bad enough I don’t need to go out.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:08:34pm

re: #146 Anymouse

Here my thermometer reads -10 degrees, which is a balmy warming trend compared to last night. I am not sure where teleskiguy lives, but I really don’t want to win the competition for cold spot on LGF.

I’m at -10° as well, don’t think it’ll be going any lower.

I went skiing today. This morning it was -8° when I first boarded the lift. I finished skiing just after noon, and it was 8° at that time.

T’was chilly, but the snow conditions were fuckin’ fantastic! Wasn’t hard to stay warm with all the powdery turns I made.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:12:54pm

re: #127 Pawn of the Oppressor

Grats on the new job.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:12:59pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:03pm

re: #151 teleskiguy

I’m at -10° as well, don’t think it’ll be going any lower.

I went skiing today. This morning it was -8° when I first boarded the lift. I finished skiing just after noon, and it was 8° at that time.

T’was chilly, but the snow conditions were fuckin’ fantastic! Wasn’t hard to stay warm with all the powdery turns I made.

Here in chilly CA (hahahaha) I am drinking apple cider spiked with pear vodka.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:04pm

re: #138 Alyosha

100°F here at the moment.

Trying to visualise snow and ice…
Brrr…

I have a friend that lives in Mackay, QLD. He seems to have two types of weather, warm and hot. There also seems to be a lot of rain by California standards.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:22pm

re: #150 Anymouse

All-weather tires are shit compared to good snow tires. Maybe it’s because I drive in snow a bunch, I have experience with both kinds of tires in snow and ice, and snow tires are pretty much a godsend. My mom switches out her tires on her Audi TT every winter to studded snow tires (those fuckers cost two grand for a set!) and she drives over Vail Pass in the worst conditions to visit the grandkids on the regular. With those tires in the winter she calls the TT her Tiny Tank. Doesn’t matter how bad the roads are, that little two-seater scoots over snow with the proper tires.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:36pm

re: #155 Single-handed sailor

I have a friend that lives in Mackay, QNS. He seems to have two types of weather, warm and hot. There also seems to be a lot of rain by California standards.

…so, like, it rains more than twice a year?

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:14:58pm

re: #151 teleskiguy

I’m at -10° as well, don’t think it’ll be going any lower.

I went skiing today. This morning it was -8° when I first boarded the lift. I finished skiing just after noon, and it was 8° at that time.

T’was chilly, but the snow conditions were fuckin’ fantastic! Wasn’t hard to stay warm with all the powdery turns I made.

Oh that’s right, you’re south of me in Colorado.

Paul Krugman’s whole stream here is an interesting exercise in what Mr. Trump seems to be up to, and how he will be viewed (regardless of political alignment):

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:16:00pm

re: #158 Anymouse

You’re in Broadwater. I’m in Gypsum.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:17:25pm

re: #156 teleskiguy

All-weather tires are shit compared to good snow tires. Maybe it’s because I drive in snow a bunch, I have experience with both kinds of tires in snow and ice, and snow tires are pretty much a godsend. My mom switches out her tires on her Audi TT every winter to studded snow tires (those fuckers cost two grand for a set!) and she drives over Vail Pass in the worst conditions to visit the grandkids on the regular. With those tires in the winter she calls the TT her Tiny Tank. Doesn’t matter how bad the roads are, that little two-seater scoots over snow with the proper tires.

I suppose I could get snow tires for the Smart, but generally if the weather is bad enough to require special equipment, I’d rather not go out at all.

It wasn’t a whole lot of fun going over Donner Pass when it was snowing like mad, but slow and steady kept my wife and me out of the stew pot. /s

The weather was much better when we came home and went through Vail Pass.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:32pm

Sigh.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:41pm

re: #158 Anymouse

Oh that’s right, you’re south of me in Colorado.

Paul Krugman’s whole stream here is an interesting exercise in what Mr. Trump seems to be up to, and how he will be viewed (regardless of political alignment):

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I concur with Krugmans assessment, shit has become pear-shaped as it moves sideways into the fan…

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:45pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

You’re in Broadwater. I’m in Gypsum.

I remember now that you said it. (I have to write things down to remember them, and I didn’t write that down.) You’ll have to remind me again next week. /s

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:18:45pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

So many times … SO MANY TIMES while driving I’ve scooted past Subarus and SUVs stuck in a snowbank and I just went about my day. I drive a Toyota Corolla. Front wheel drive. I’ve had to chain up a handful of times, and when the road is completely fucked with snow and ice I just motor on.

Snow tires are very helpful. You can accelerate, brake, and corner better than regular tires.

The biggest thing with winter driving, especially here in Nashville where we don’t really get a lot of appreciable ice and snow every year, is to go slow, to give everyone on all sides plenty of space, and to be attentive, think ahead, and give yourself plenty of time to start, stop, and change direction.

People around here that drive SUVs, roided-up 4x4s, and Subies don’t tend to understand that, else they wouldn’t wind up in ditches or in pileups.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:20:29pm

re: #162 Teukka

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:22:30pm

re: #164 TedStriker

The biggest thing with winter driving, especially here in Nashville where we don’t really get a lot of appreciable ice and snow no matter what, wherever you are, is to go slow, give everyone on all sides plenty of space, and give plenty of time to start, stop, and change direction.

People around here that drive SUVs, roided-up 4x4s, and Subies don’t tend to understand that, else they wouldn’t wind up in ditches or in pileups.

FTFY

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Donkey With No Name  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:24:16pm

re: #153 FormerDirtDart

“war scarf of Islam” eh? Now I want some falafel - the war chickpeas of Islam.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:26:16pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

FTFY

And an addendum to your addendum:

Simply put, when it gets bad out on the road with snow and ice, unless it’s a real emergency or you have a job where you absolutely have to be there (I do, I work for an alarm company as a central station operator and we’re 24/7/365, rain or shine), STAY THE FUCK HOME.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:26:31pm

re: #167 Donkey With No Name

“war scarf of Islam” eh? Now I want some falafel - the war chickpeas of Islam.

I went. I read the comments. Never read Pammy’s comment section. Good lord!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:29:56pm

re: #167 Donkey With No Name

“war scarf of Islam” eh? Now I want some falafel - the war chickpeas of Islam.

While you’re at it, if you want to bring me some hamas hummus, that’d be great.

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:31:48pm

re: #168 TedStriker

And an addedum to your addendum:

Simply put, when it gets bad out on the road with snow and ice, unless it’s a real emergency or you have a job where you absolutely have to be there (I do, I work for an alarm company as a central station operator and we’re 24/7/365, rain or shine), STAY THE FUCK HOME.

A-fuckin’-men. The soundest advice one can get in any major weather system, but you can be sure there will be plenty of morons out there on the roads because they want a pack of smokes or want to go see a movie who end up instead buried in the side of somebody’s house because they totally misjudged the slipperiness of the roads.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:34:45pm

re: #168 TedStriker

Where I live, the STAY THE FUCK HOME rule very rarely applies. After all, we have enormous fleets of plows working 24/7 when a big snowstorm hits (like this week, it was big, buh-lieve me). It’s different in the mountains of Colorado. Less roads (way less roads!), more conscientious drivers, and the like. It has to snow over a foot for the school districts to call a snow day (which happened on Thursday). I never once had a snow day in my youth, back when the local government weren’t as strict about snow totals and the like. We had delayed school mornings ‘cause the busses took longer to get to the schools, but I never had a real snow day. Even with snow piled damned near up to the eaves of our house.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:38:54pm

I have a concrete duck in my front yard, that duck is my snow gauge. The duck stands just over two feet high. Just his head is poking out right now.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:39:59pm

re: #169 Dave In Austin

I remember a story from last year in Sweden where locals noticed a bunch of weird guys with beards doing something in the forest. Called the police because they thought they were Jihadists.

Turns out they were Hipsters, which might be worse.

I saw more than one comment, saying they should have shot or droned them anyway, one the basis they were hipsters.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:40:43pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

Where I live, the STAY THE FUCK HOME rule very rarely applies. After all, we have enormous fleets of plows working 24/7 when a big snowstorm hits (like this week, it was big, buh-lieve me). It’s different in the mountains of Colorado. Less roads (way less roads!), more conscientious drivers, and the like. It has to snow over a foot for the school districts to call a snow day (which happened on Thursday). I never once had a snow day in my youth, back when the local government weren’t as strict about snow totals and the like. We had delayed school mornings ‘cause the busses took longer to get to the schools, but I never had a real snow day. Even with snow piled damned near up to the eaves of our house.

Well, we don’t have fleets of plows, though our county does have two or three. If the snow gets really bad, they just close the roads.

Nebraska over the last couple years built crossovers between every exit on I-80 so they can counterflow traffic if the weather gets too bad, but not bad enough to close the Interstate.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:46:12pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

Where I live, the STAY THE FUCK HOME rule very rarely applies. After all, we have enormous fleets of plows working 24/7 when a big snowstorm hits (like this week, it was big, buh-lieve me). It’s different in the mountains of Colorado. Less roads (way less roads!), more conscientious drivers, and the like. It has to snow over a foot for the school districts to call a snow day (which happened on Thursday). I never once had a snow day in my youth, back when the local government weren’t as strict about snow totals and the like. We had delayed school mornings ‘cause the busses took longer to get to the schools, but I never had a real snow day. Even with snow piled damned near up to the eaves of our house.

Well, yeah, that make sense, because y’all out in the Rockies and those above the Mason-Dixon Line have to deal with snow every winter, whereas most people down here in Dixie make runs on the grocery stores for milk, eggs, and toilet paper if so much as a dusting is forecast, yet, once snow and ice actually does come, they still all get on the roads and drive like morons. Plus, we here in the South just don’t have (and really can’t justify the expense of having) a large, dedicated fleet of plows and salt trucks like they do in the mountain states and up North.

Frankly, TDOT and Nashville Public Works have plow attachments and salting/brining equipment for many of their dump trucks and, for the most part when the forecasts are right, have done fairly well in getting salt and brine down before snow/ice hits, then plowing the main roads and interstates over the past couple of years.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:48:42pm

re: #176 TedStriker

Nashville, AFAIK, hasn’t experienced “snowpacalypse” that Atlanta and Charlotte have experienced in recent years. You folks must be doing something right in that regard.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:53:32pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Nashville, AFAIK, hasn’t experienced “snowpacalypse” that Atlanta and Charlotte have experienced in recent years. You folks must be doing something right in that regard.

Our Snowocalypse weekend last January was pretty damn bad, the most snow I’d seen in a very, very long time and it pretty much shut the city down for a couple of days; TDOT and Nashville Public Works were doing what they could, but, at its peak, the snow was coming down faster that the salt (eventually diluting it and making it ineffective) or the plows could keep clear that first night.

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Mattand  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:54:12pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Did either of you (or any other lizard Cheap Trick fans) ever see this somewhat unknown movie from 1979. It was one of the first Orion Picture releases. It had Matt Dillon, Vincent Spano, Pamela Ludwig and a bunch of other real young actors.

It was about disenfranchised youth living in a hum-drum, planned community and revolting. It is not a great film, but decent and I guess it was based on a real story from somewhere in California. The kids get bored with it all and start to tear up the town, etc. They actually did the movie in Aurora Colorado close to Columbine. Strange that.

Cheap Trick songs are used throughout the film. I did like that.

Here is the YouTube of it in case anyone is bored and wants to watch it. It is long…3+ hours according to the time posted at YouTube. In a way it is a historical document of some of the “controlled community” thinking of the 70s

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Oh. Your. God. I have not thought about that movie in decades. It was in a seeming continuous loop on Prism, the Philly-area cable channel that was basically the Delaware Valley’s answer to HBO (although I don’t think it ever went national).

All I could tell you about that movie now is that it starred Matt Dillion and the kids rode around on bikes in a planned community that’s in the middle of nowhere. I literally do not remember the sound track, let alone Cheap Trick being a central part of it.

Speaking of decades past; Cheap Trick; and the fact I’m officially an old man now: It’s been 20 years since I saw Cheap Trick at the Y100 Fest (or something like that) at the Which Bank Owns It This Week amphitheater in Camden.

Highlights of that show:

• We had tickets in the pit; no official seats, but people who had tix in the front row never showed. We pretty much claimed those seats as our own. Got to sit down whenever we were tired. Probably save over $100 in ticket fees that day.

• I brought earplugs with me and was pretty much mocked for it until CT’s crew started setting up their equipment. Think of the first scene in Star Wars, only instead of a Star Destroyer going on forever, there were rows of amplifiers. The mocking pretty much ceased at that point.

• I remember CT being really good. A friend of mine told me later that the sponsoring radio station had a really young employee interview the band. This guy had no idea who they were, and referred to them as a “new” band. In 1996. Apparently, the band kept calling themselves a new band all throughout the interview.

• I did have an official Rick Neilsen pick, thrown by the man himself, although I have no idea where it is now.

• At age 30, I was easily one of the oldest people in the audience. It’s all been downhill since.

• Not from this concert, but Cheap Trick related. At some point, CT was based in Philly. They were the headliner of a free Camden County Park concert a while back, and talked about how they lived above a delicatessen around 22nd and Market. Doesn’t say much about Philly’s presence in the national rock scene that CT had to move to Chicago to make it big.

Okay, I’m done. Going to bed now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 6, 2017 • 10:59:15pm

re: #124 VegasGolfer

I saw the Jefferson Airplane reunion tour in 1989 at Pine Knob. Had third row seats. Jorma Kakounen and Jack Casady did their sets right in front of myself and my friend, playing Embryonie Journey and bunch of theit Hot Tuna stuff.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:02:46pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

This fucking guy.

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The DNC was asking for it, wearing a dress like that…and I know when someone is asking for it..buh-lieve me…

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:03:22pm

re: #176 TedStriker

Well, yeah, that make sense, because y’all out in the Rockies and those above the Mason-Dixon Line have to deal with snow every winter, whereas most people down here in Dixie make runs on the grocery stores for milk, eggs, and toilet paper if so much as a dusting is forecast, yet, once snow and ice actually does come, they still all get on the roads and drive like morons. Plus, we here in the South just don’t have (and really can’t justify the expense of having) a large, dedicated fleet of plows and salt trucks like they do in the mountain states and up North.

Frankly, TDOT and Nashville Public Works have plow attachments and salting/brining equipment for many of their dump trucks and, for the most part when the forecasts are right, have done fairly well in getting salt and brine down before snow/ice hits, then plowing the main roads and interstates over the past couple of years.

Well, we’re not quite in the Rockies here but we are in Mountain Time Zone.

Our village streets aren’t ploughed yet, but the village maintenance mechanic is going to hit them tomorrow (he did plough the street in front of my house and the church today, along with their parking area - the church pays the village for that service).

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:38:42pm

I Am ISIS! Beware! I do the signature ISIS hand gesture!

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:46:10pm

Obama Unleashes Tweetstorm on No One because He’s the God Damn President and Adult Man (goes to the Canadian Broadcasting Company)

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Last night after watching an episode of Late Night with Seth Meyers, President Obama lashed out via the internet, tweeting… NOTHING BECAUSE THIS NEVER HAPPENED BECAUSE OBAMA IS THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND FOR SURE DOESN’T HAVE TIME TO WATCH LATE NIGHT TELEVISION ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!???!?!??!

(more at the CBC, capitals in original)

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:56:07pm

Instagram

I skied this pitch first thing this morning. I vomited at the bottom, for some reason.

True story. I got to the cat track and started heaving. This was a little after 9 a.m. today.

I over-exerted myself on one of the steepest runs in Colorado. Probably wasn’t the best run to choose as the first run of the day with below zero temperatures.

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Anymouse  Jan 6, 2017 • 11:59:19pm

We’re awaiting a package that should have been delivered a couple days ago.

My wife just checked the delivery company’s Website. They say that due to the treacherous road conditions in our area, they are delaying deliveries two more days.

I’m good with that, having driven just a couple blocks in town, I can’t imagine a delivery driver coming sixty miles from their distribution centre - we didn’t order anything that we need so desperately that we need to risk the life of a truck driver.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:11:04am

re: #186 Anymouse

Coming up next on Ice Road Truckers…

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:19:38am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:24:16am

Must be Meme nite on the Twitters….

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:25:32am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:27:20am

#BLOTUS

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:29:03am

I’m beginning to believe …

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:32:58am
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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:37:50am

re: #192 teleskiguy

All the big-wig journalists and Twitter sleuths have found tweets that absolutely contradict Fuckface Von Clownstick’s current tweets, without fail. He’s a serial liar, a consummate conman, a known sexual abuser of women, and a man who forgets what he does because his mind is literally wasting away.

This is an absolute disaster for the United States. Frankly, I’d rather Mike Pence was president.

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:45:48am

re: #194 teleskiguy

Frankly, I’d rather Mike Pence was president.

At least Pence is a proven *bureaucrat*. And he could get his ass handed to him in 2018 when the congress and senate become Democratic majority. Pence will at least see that and maybe talk to folks on the other side of the aisle.

Who am I kidding? Fuckface Von Clownstick will do maximum damage, because he’s an evil vessel hellbent on destroying everything right and good on our planet.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:47:15am

re: #194 teleskiguy

All the big-wig journalists and Twitter sleuths have found tweets that absolutely contradict Fuckface Von Clownstick’s current tweets, without fail. He’s a serial liar, a consummate conman, a known sexual abuser of women, and a man who forgets what he does because his mind is literally wasting away.

This is an absolute disaster for the United States. Frankly, I’d rather Mike Pence was president.

Minority-VP-Elect Mike Pence is a theocratic wingnut, but he is within the normal range of theocratic wingnuts. As a former Representative and state governor, he at least knows how government functions.

I still don’t think the Democrats should do a single thing to help them out of their jam with Mr. Trump. I suspect Gov. Pence is the guy they really want. If they want Mr. Trump out (and they’re the ones who let him in originally), let them do the lifting to either impeach him or sideline him with the XXV Amendment to make Gov. Pence Acting President.

They keep Mr. Trump and he will destroy the credibility of the GOP (something that more reasonable people like Senator Lindsay Graham understand). They oust or sideline him and the GOP is torn apart by Trump supporters.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:55:47am

My local conservative newspaper ran an op-ed today comparing the recent Republican attempt to disembowel the Office of Congressional Ethics to Tammany Hall.

They note my representative Adrian Smith (R-NE3) voted against the plan. Perhaps I should throw a telephone call his way for a principled vote.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:56:05am

re: #196 Anymouse

There are a lot of people saying the same thing. If (when) Pumpkin Pinochet is impeached, it will be done by his own party. Dems need to unify in obstruction. Unfortunately the two ot three Blue Dogs like Manchin and his ilk will prolly ruin it for the rest of us.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:59:07am

re: #196 Anymouse

Minority-VP-Elect Mike Pence is a theocratic wingnut, but he is within the normal range of theocratic wingnuts. As a former Representative and state governor, he at least knows how government functions.

I still don’t think the Democrats should do a single thing to help them out of their jam with Mr. Trump. I suspect Gov. Pence is the guy they really want. If they want Mr. Trump out (and they’re the ones who let him in originally), let them do the lifting to either impeach him or sideline him with the XXV Amendment to make Gov. Pence Acting President.

They keep Mr. Trump and he will destroy the credibility of the GOP (something that more reasonable people like Senator Lindsay Graham understand). They oust or sideline him and the GOP is torn apart by Trump supporters.

I remember about this time last year, and the year before that and so on thinking about John McCain ‘just retire now, you disgraceful old coot!’

Now he’s one of the few Republicans actually taking a stand on Trump’s ties to Russia and I’m all like, ‘christ, you stuck around long enough that your time has come again; don’t fuckin’ die!’

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:00:16am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

There are a lot of people saying the same thing. If (when) Pumpkin Pinochet is impeached, it will be done by his own party. Dems need to unify in obstruction. Unfortunately the two ot three Blue Dogs like Manchin and his ilk will prolly ruin it for the rest of us.

Well, I’m not really big on whichever party is in the minority becoming nothing but obstruction (that brings governance to a halt).

On things where there is compromise I am not opposed to Democrats negotiating with Republicans. On non-starter issues (such as stiffing Planned Parenthood on legitimate payments - not the right-wing propaganda “defunding Planned Parenthood”) yup, I’m all in on using any legislative tool to prevent it.

There might be a defection or two from the Democrats if the GOP brings up impeachment. I suspect there would be GOP defections to the Democrats on that too (for example, my own representative in this overwhelmingly Trump-leaning district - if he were to stand against Trump he would be primaried).

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:01:32am

re: #199 Alyosha

I remember about this time last year, and the year before that and so on thinking about John McCain ‘just retire now, you disgraceful old coot!’

Now he’s one of the few Republicans actually taking a stand on Trump’s ties to Russia and I’m all like, ‘christ, you stuck around long enough that your time has come again; don’t fuckin’ die!’

And yet Senator McCain endorsed Mr. Trump. He simply swings whichever the political winds blow him. He has no more principles than “elect me.” Remember, he inflicted half-term Gov. Palin on us.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:05:03am

re: #200 Anymouse

I think we are all in agreement with that. It’s just that right now the crap they are throwing out there is just making me flat angry.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:06:11am

re: #201 Anymouse

And yet Senator McCain endorsed Mr. Trump. He simply swings whichever the political winds blow him. He has no more principles than “elect me.” Remember, he inflicted half-term Gov. Palin on us.

Heh, you gotta wonder how he feels about his erstwhile running mate pathetically begging Assange’s forgiveness though.

There’s still time for him to leave on a good note. Whether he jumps at the opportunity, though, is another matter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:08:05am

re: #120 teleskiguy

This fucking guy.

Gross negligence by the Democratic National Committee allowed hacking to take place.The Republican National Committee had strong defense!

That is the official spin on it, the hacking equivalent of the “slut was asking to be raped” defense.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:08:22am

re: #203 Dave In Austin

I think we are all in agreement with that. It’s just that right now the crap they are throwing out there is just making me flat angry.

Well I’m thinking “get angry” can be replaced with “get organised.”

rawstory.com

Trey Crowder, aka “Liberal Redneck” says goodbye to Obama, who he says is a “master at pissing off shitty white people.”

Crowder admits he liked Obama, “everybody’s gun-hating Muslim from Kenya,” from the beginning.

“I loved his message, his ideas — he was different, he was young, he was cool, he was funny,” Crowder said. “Most importantly of all, to me, he was an unparalleled expert at pissing off sh*tty white people.”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:09:45am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:10:49am

re: #206 Anymouse

I posted that out a couple of days ago

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:11:03am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the official spin on it, the hacking equivalent of the “slut was asking to be raped” defense.

And they are still in denial it happened to them too.

The next time some piece of legislation or a policy position comes up that Mr. Putin doesn’t like?

“Well, Senator Jones, we have the Grindr account of your son; you wouldn’t want us to release that to Wikileaks, would you?”

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:12:31am

re: #206 Anymouse

Crowder considers himself a connoisseur of the art of pissing off sh*tty white people, saying he likes to sit around in a Colin Kaepernick jersey listening to the Dixie Chicks and watching YouTube videos of Tim Tebow’s failures.

Crowder admitted that Obama wasn’t perfect, but he was confident that history would judge him favorably — especially compared to the “sentient tire fires that bookended him.”

I’ve seen his videos posted here, but I’m gonna have to check him out after that.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:14:20am

re: #208 Dave In Austin

I posted that out a couple of days ago

Well, the Intertubz take a long time to deliver stuff here, plus the electrons are slowed down from the cold. (:: I missed your post, sorry.

Internet posts don’t travel so fast in -12F temperatures. However, I suppose I could pay more for heated Intertubz.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:14:51am

re: #211 Anymouse

Well, the Intertubz take a long time to deliver stuff here, plus the electrons are slowed down from the cold. (:: I missed your post, sorry.

Internet posts don’t travel so fast in -12F temperatures. However, I suppose I could pay more for heated Intertubz.

get a tube muff

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:15:12am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Paul Ryan has been absolutely jizzing himself with the power that has fell into his utterly impotent lap. I project a Fuckface Von Clownstick impeachment at >10% at this point. Paul Ryan loves the fact that he can implement his demented inhuman vision of Atlas Shrugged on a whole society. He’s cummed so hard so many times since Fuckface Von Clownstick got elected, his meager balls are spent. The result of this last election is enough for Paul Ryan to ejaculate every day without even having to grab his pencil dick.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:15:25am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

get a tube muff

That sounds vaguely risqué.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:16:48am

re: #213 teleskiguy

Paul Ryan has been absolutely jizzing himself with the power that has fell into his utterly impotent lap. I project a Fuckface Von Clownstick impeachment at >10% at this point. Paul Ryan loves the fact that he can implement his demented inhuman vision of Atlas Shrugged on a whole society. He’s cummed so hard so many times since Fuckface Von Clownstick got elected, his meager balls are spent. The result of this last election is enough for Paul Ryan to ejaculate every day without even having to grab his pencil dick.

Libertarian erotic Romance is really bad. I would tell my boss to reject that if it were a novel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:18:32am

re: #215 Anymouse

Libertarian erotic Romance is really bad. I would tell my boss to reject that if it were a novel.

I sells well to a certain audience…but only with a plain brown cover.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:19:23am

Some original content for once.

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:20:10am

re: #215 Anymouse

Libertarian erotic Romance is really bad. I would tell my boss to reject that if it were a novel.

I’m not writing erotic romance. I’m writing what very well could be the truth about that sociopathic fuckhead with an ugly widow’s peak Paul Ryan.

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:25:16am

Paul Ryan. Fucking scumbag. If there is a Hell, I hope he burns there.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:27:39am

re: #218 teleskiguy

I’m not writing erotic romance. I’m writing what very well could be the truth about that sociopathic fuckhead with an ugly widow’s peak Paul Ryan.

Yup. That’s the scary part. If it was a Romance novel, I could recommend rewrite or rejection.

We’re stuck with Rep. Ryan. I can’t reject him, I don’t live in his district.

At least Rep. Ryan is within the normal range of libertarian conservative wingnuts. His policies and plans (such as they are) are predictable and can be opposed.

Who knows what Mr. Trump would do? My suspicion is almost none of his picks for various positions were forwarded by him. They seem to be forwarded by people like Steve Bannon or Richard Spencer, who no one voted for.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:41:48am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

get a tube muff

I get off at 6. Mine’s waiting at home…..

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:44:32am

re: #219 teleskiguy

Paul Ryan. Fucking scumbag. If there is a Hell, I hope he burns there.

That wold definitely be Catholic Hell…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:46:51am

re: #222 Dave In Austin

That would definitely be Catholic Hell…..

you mean one full of Protestants?

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:49:38am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean one full of Protestants?

… or atheists …

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:52:13am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was just in reference to the devout Catholic that Ryan is…. “Hail Ayn Ryan full of Cash”

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teleskiguy  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:55:09am

Dude! This was taken with my iPhone a little over three years ago. Instagram made it into a *beautiful photo*.

Instagram

17 Vail

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:59:23am

re: #225 Dave In Austin

That was just in reference to the devout Catholic that Ryan is…. “Hail Ayn Ryan full of Cash”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:01:16am

No Day is Complete Without Some SRB!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:08:01am
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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:09:07am

re: #226 teleskiguy

Dude! This was taken with my iPhone a little over three years ago. Instagram made it into a *beautiful photo*.

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Why is it that Instagram photos posted here come out as a 1cm by 1cm photo? I need a magnifying glass to see them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:12:31am

re: #229 Dave In Austin

If you’re a coder/developer/programmer/hacker interested in building resistance tools, hit me up.

Unless you are a Russian hacker who wants to slip in a Trojan…

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:14:44am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless you are a Russian hacker who wants to slip in a Trojan…

I don’t really need Trojans, thanks. We’re pretty much too old to conceive children now. /s

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:17:04am

Also, war scarf?

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:18:11am

Hillary Clinton for New York City mayor? Wouldn’t that chap Donald Trump in his tower there?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:21:40am

SRB sez: “Don’t you say that again!!”

bcove.me

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:28:18am
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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:43:44am

Carrie Fisher Gets a Laugh Even at Her Own Funeral

It would appear in the photos that actress Carrie Fisher’s urn (she requested cremation) is shaped and coloured like a Prozac capsule.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:50:01am

Well, with Felix Randomkitty eating about twenty meals a day since we got home, he has gone from eight to thirteen pounds in a couple weeks.

At this rate he will explode.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:56:37am

re: #238 Anymouse

Well, with Felix Randomkitty eating about twenty meals a day since we got home, he has gone from eight to thirteen pounds in a couple weeks.

At this rate he will explode.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:59:52am

“Give me tuna or Anymouse gets it.”

(Any mouse will do, and Anymouse is right here. I have claws, he doesn’t.)

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:05:03am
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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:07:55am

The cutest thing I’ve found in the last few days is the wingnuts trying to convince me that Wikileaks is anything but a propaganda outfit for the Kremlin. “They’re all about freedom of information!” Yeah, which is why they’ve gone bugshit insane any time that information detrimental to Russia and its ambitions has been made public, while issuing threats (both implied and explicit) to go after any of their critics.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:12:15am

re: #242 Targetpractice

The cutest thing I’ve found in the last few days is the wingnuts trying to convince me that Wikileaks is anything but a propaganda outfit for the Kremlin. “They’re all about freedom of information!” Yeah, which is why they’ve gone bugshit insane any time that information detrimental to Russia and its ambitions has been made public, while issuing threats (both implied and explicit) to go after any of their critics.

And a year ago they were Socialist Snowden Commie traitors.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:15:12am

re: #243 Dave In Austin

And a year ago they were Socialist Snowden Commie traitors.

Ayep. It’s just like how wingnuts suddenly are in lockstep that Iraq was a major boondoggle that was in no way justified, this coming after years of denial that the war was a mistake and twisting themselves into mental pretzels to justify the war.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:17:45am

re: #242 Targetpractice

The cutest thing I’ve found in the last few days is the wingnuts trying to convince me that Wikileaks is anything but a propaganda outfit for the Kremlin. “They’re all about freedom of information!” Yeah, which is why they’ve gone bugshit insane any time that information detrimental to Russia and its ambitions has been made public, while issuing threats (both implied and explicit) to go after any of their critics.

I think Wikileaks started out as a starry-eyed idealist’s concept of a whistle-blower organization, sharing otherwise secret information with the world, but somewhere along the way it was corrupted by Russian intelligence into a tool of disinformation. Starry-eyed idealists don’t always think clearly, and I’m sure many Wikileaks “members” honestly believe they are doing a Good Thing. Assange, on the other hand, is a malevolent narcissist who believes he is the Arbiter of Truth for the World. I’ll bet that the Russians have promised him the moon if ever manages to escape the Ecuadorian embassy, but once he does get out, they will toss him aside like an empty bottle of vodka.

He cannot stay forever in the embassy. Sooner or later, something has to give.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:40:47am

re: #245 wheat-dogg

I think Wikileaks started out as a starry-eyed idealist’s concept of a whistle-blower organization, sharing otherwise secret information with the world, but somewhere along the way it was corrupted by Russian intelligence into a tool of disinformation. Starry-eyed idealists don’t always think clearly, and I’m sure many Wikileaks “members” honestly believe they are doing a Good Thing. Assange, on the other hand, is a malevolent narcissist who believes he is the Arbiter of Truth for the World. I’ll bet that the Russians have promised him the moon if ever manages to escape the Ecuadorian embassy, but once he does get out, they will toss him aside like an empty bottle of vodka.

He cannot stay forever in the embassy. Sooner or later, something has to give.

I don’t think it’s simply promises, I think it’s an ideological agreement born of anger over his continued confinement. When he started out, he was (as you noted) one of those starry-eyed little punks with a narcissistic streak who thought that he was gonna make a major name for himself as a slayer of giants. But he zigged when he should have zagged and instead of making his escape to some no-extradition paradise, he ended up as a prisoner to the political situation between the US and Ecuador. Now Russia’s capitalizing on that anger towards the country he blames for his present situation, whispering sweet nothings in his ear about freedom and fortune if he just keeps playing his part as Putin’s catspaw.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:43:13am

LOL, Assange is in full meltdown.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:47:15am

A couple of inches of snow and everyone be like, “WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE MAN!1!!!”

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:55:29am

Whoa, cool, Jim Cantore’s here in VA Beach. It’s a sign of how bad I am as a local that I can’t tell exactly where just by the landmarks, but I’d guess he’s just a few blocks away.

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I cannot.  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:57:26am

re: #249 Targetpractice

One thing I learned from watching the Weather Channel: Whenever he’s where you are, you don’t want to be where you are.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:58:35am

re: #250 I cannot.

One thing I learned from watching the Weather Channel: Whenever he’s where you are, you don’t want to be where you are.

I wish I had a choice, but I’m still on the clock til my relief shows up. And even then, I’m not sure I want to brave the weather when I know I have to be back tomorrow.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:59:26am

re: #249 Targetpractice

Just FYI: I was mocking the Washingtonians/Novaville folks that are in a panic, folks in Hampton Roads looking 14” are a bit more justified.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:00:44am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

Just FYI: I was mocking the Washingtonians/Novaville folks that are in a panic, folks in Hampton Roads looking 14” are a bit more justified.

I’m not sure we’re gonna get the full 14”, I still think that’s a bit on the high side of the forecast models. But what we’re going to receive will still be enough to bring this city to a standstill for a couple days.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:06:02am

re: #253 Targetpractice

I’m not sure we’re gonna get the full 14”, I still think that’s a bit on the high side of the forecast models. But what we’re going to receive will still be enough to bring this city to a standstill for a couple days.

I am hoping that Richmond gets buried so I get paid leave on Monday. Combined with a state holiday on Friday, that would give me a three-day work week followed by a four-day weekend with Lee-Jackson Day and MLK Day. :)

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:12:49am

re: #254 Timothy Watson

I am hoping that Richmond gets buried so I get paid leave on Monday. Combined with a state holiday on Friday, that would give me a three-day work week followed by a four-day weekend with Lee-Jackson Day and MLK Day. :)

Well, it’s not the worst situation for me. I at least get a free room for the duration and if the roads clear up by tomorrow night, I might be able to get home. But this is not how I pictured this weekend to go a week ago.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:19:56am

In local news:

Longmont Man Takes Down Anti-Muslim Sign after Complaints (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

A Longmont man who put a sign in his yard bearing an anti-Muslim message has taken it down.

The Daily Times-Call reports that 83-year-old Harry McNevin removed the sign Thursday after complaints that the signs was offensive, though police and prosecutors said the message was protected by the First Amendment.

The sign had read “Muslim’s kill Muslim’s (sic) if they don’t agree. Where does that leave you, ‘infidel.’”

McNevin had said the sign was supposed to be a wake-up call for Americans to realize that Muslims are “not our friends.”

Longmont Public Safety Chief Mike Butler and Community and Neighborhood Resources Manager Carmen Ramirez visited McNevin on Monday to ask him to remove the sign after community members complained.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:47:16am

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I cannot.  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:52:52am

re: #257 Alyosha

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:57:14am

re: #257 Alyosha

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 4:57:38am

re: #258 I cannot.

I had just about given up on the PS4 ‘Remastered’ Edition when I saw that Bethesda decided to only retexture the game rather than debug the NPCs.
I rediscovered since then, that even buggy, it’s an awesome game.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:01:36am

re: #259 Anymouse

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An excellent problem to have, if I may say so. Shoutout to GGT!

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:02:36am

Okay, gotta sort books. I’ll be around.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:06:09am

re: #262 Alyosha

Okay, gotta sort books. I’ll be around.

“A dirty rotten job, but somebody’s gotta do it.”

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:06:38am

re: #246 Targetpractice

I don’t think it’s simply promises, I think it’s an ideological agreement born of anger over his continued confinement. When he started out, he was (as you noted) one of those starry-eyed little punks with a narcissistic streak who thought that he was gonna make a major name for himself as a slayer of giants. But he zigged when he should have zagged and instead of making his escape to some no-extradition paradise, he ended up as a prisoner to the political situation between the US and Ecuador. Now Russia’s capitalizing on that anger towards the country he blames for his present situation, whispering sweet nothings in his ear about freedom and fortune if he just keeps playing his part as Putin’s catspaw.

Quite likely. I suppose his plan was to hide out in the embassy, expecting Ecuador could somehow whisk him away to South America. He didn’t count on the Metro Police and Interpol being on his tail, essentially trapping him inside the embassy indefinitely. Ecuador does not want to create an international incident by sneaking him out of England, so his starry-eyed dream cannot come true.

Given what I know of Assange, his ego demands he is always right and everyone else is always wrong, so he will blame his unfortunate situation on everyone involved — except himself. A prisoner of his own device.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:08:35am

I need to get off to bed. Even Felix Randomkitty is so cold he is under the blankets. It is now -17F here. It’s colder outside than my friggin’ freezer is.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:10:53am

From the Cheyenne NWS Office:

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Cheyenne WY
441 AM MST Sat Jan 7 2017

.UPDATE…
Issued at 439 AM MST Sat Jan 7 2017

We trimmed back the wind chill advisory through 9 am today to
include western Nebraska and parts of southeast Wyoming east of a
Douglas to Wheatland line and drop areas further to the west.

&&

.SHORT TERM…(Today through Sunday night)
Issued at 200 AM MST Sat Jan 7 2017

Today…Our current wind chill advisory is verifying across western
Nebraska with most of the locations there seeing wind chill
temperatures in the -20 to -30 degree range. However, with lesser
winds and some warming temperatures across southeast Wyoming, wind
chill temperatures are warmer than the -20 to -30 degree range. Will
monitor this trend for next hour or two to decide on whether to
continue the advisory for our southeast Wyoming zones.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:13:25am

re: #266 Anymouse

Brings back memories of being in Casper during the winter of 1978. Fun times for a 20-something. Now I’ll just pass on those kind of wind chills. Here it is in the 40s with a light rain.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:18:59am

re: #267 wheat-dogg

Brings back memories of being in Casper during the winter of 1978. Fun times for a 20-something. Now I’ll just pass on those kind of wind chills. Here it is in the 40s with a light rain.

This keeps up and I’m going to move to Alaska, where it’s warmer. It’s fricking warmer in Whitehorse, Yukon than it is here (-11F).

weather.gc.ca

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jeffreyw  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:24:01am

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Good morning!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:24:36am

re: #268 Anymouse

This keeps up and I’m going to move to Alaska, where it’s warmer. It’s fricking warmer in Whitehorse, Yukon than it is here (-11F).

weather.gc.ca

With the exception of my cousin in Honolulu and me, the rest of my family is also freezing their knickers off right now. They seem to like the snow belt.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:29:16am

re: #270 wheat-dogg

With the exception of my cousin in Honolulu and me, the rest of my family is also freezing their knickers off right now. They seem to like the snow belt.

I love snow, as I am originally from Michigan. If we could have snow at 70 degrees F, I would be all in.

I was out shovelling my walks yesterday afternoon, I came back into the house like a socialist Popsicle. (Pesky village ordinances requiring you keep your walks clear in -18 weather - it would look bad if a village trustee didn’t follow the law…)

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:34:32am

Fiscal conservatives at work protecting your rights in Kentucky, courtesy of Wonkette:

From Charles Pierce:
“Over strong opposition from the ACLU of Kentucky and Planned Parenthood, a state Senate committee approved a bill Wednesday to ban abortions for women who are more than 20 weeks pregnant and a House committee signed off on a bill requiring doctors to present the results of an ultrasound to women seeking abortions. Both the Senate and House — controlled by Republicans — are expected to vote Thursday on the bills that emerged from their committees in hopes of sending them to Gov. Matt Bevin for his signature by week’s end. To do that, the legislature would have to hold a rare Saturday meeting. Saturday would mark the fifth day of this year’s law-making session and it takes at least five days for a bill to get through both chambers…Smith also revealed Wednesday that the bill contains a provision to allow private contributions to a trust fund overseen by the state Finance Cabinet that would pay for any possible legal defense of the measure.

This is nice. Pass an unconstitutional law guaranteed to make the lives of your constituents harder and then privatize the legal defense of it so you’re not vulnerable to charges of wasting the taxpayers money on your personal obsessions. That’s the way you do the people’s work, by god.”

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:40:04am

re: #272 Anymouse

Kentucky stands to be another Kansas financially speaking, and another Oklahoma politically and socially speaking. It makes me sad, because a large number of my former in-laws (whom I count as family) live there. Another segment live in southern Indiana, which is not much better.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:41:20am

re: #102 BeachDem

I know RawStory headlines are sometime “out there,” but I think they covered this one well:

Even dead people are declining to perform for Trump

(it’s a Newsweek story, so not sure if that was the original Newsweek header.)

Don’t know if anyone posted this [fake comedy] news, but….”Susan Boyle to Sing Dead Kennedys’ ‘Too Drunk to Fuck’” at Trump Inauguration”

rochdaleherald.co.uk

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freetoken  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:49:36am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

re: #253 Targetpractice

Trump apparently has not only solved global warming but has made Winter Great Again.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:51:00am

re: #273 wheat-dogg

Kentucky stands to be another Kansas financially speaking, and another Oklahoma politically and socially speaking. It makes me sad, because a large number of my former in-laws (whom I count as family) live there. Another segment live in southern Indiana, which is not much better.

My wife and I bailed out of Oklahoma when Mary Fallin was elected: One of the first things Oklahoma did was require all drivers to submit “safety paperwork” signed off by specialist physician (and only gave two month’s notice) to renew a license.

Under the new licensing laws, I would have been required with epilepsy to submit to eighteen different specialists, while my wife would have been required to see eleven. It was cheaper to buy a house in a different state than comply with Oklahoma’s new laws. Moreover, driving laws require annual updates from all those specialists.

Unsurprisingly, Oklahoma now has one of the highest rates of unlicensed drivers in the nation.

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Anymouse  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:53:55am

G’night y’all (for varying definitions of “night”)

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Bubblehead II  Jan 7, 2017 • 5:56:03am

Morning Lizards. The next week is going to be a blast weather wise.

forecast.weather.gov

On a side note, got down to the bus stop to go to work only to find that the bus wouldn’t start and they didn’t expect the backup to be up and running until about 1030. So I get a unexpected PTO day.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:00:38am

I went to bed after posting the Cheap Trick video. What a band. I was too young, but my brother saw them regularly at the Red Lion Inn in Champaign, Il in the ’70s before they broke. But he had all of their records through the ’80s, so I loved them early on. In college my roommate was head of the concert board and no one else ever showed up for meetings, so he and I would just choose bands we liked (and there was a considerable budget). For an outdoor show we got Cheap Trick (probably 1986) once—no one knew them except for “I Want You to Want Me.” But they played some of their back catalogue and just kicked ass. (We also had Hoodoo Gurus, The Bangles, Elvis Costello w/ Nick Lowe, Billy Bragg, and a few others I can’t recall.) Good times!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:05:26am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:10:51am

That moment when you realize you aren’t getting to those SATA connectors unless you take out your video card.

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John Carter  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:16:33am

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey! Somebody has to call out this stuff!

sorry, not sorry…

Do you guys have any recommendations for the rest of us? Steps we should take for the next 4 years?

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darthstar  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:18:24am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:21:18am

re: #135 Anymouse

My father worked in the Norfolk/Chesapeake area for a few years in the mid-90s and his experience mirrored yours exactly. Bad weather = pickup trucks in the ditches. 4WD just means all four wheels skid at once. ;) My vanilla FWD Mazda3 wagon soldiered through some of the worst winter weather I’ve been through in my life in last year’s “Goliath” storm without a twitch. You gotta know road feel and road physics, the rest is commentary. And good tires, those help too.

(OK, there was one twitch in Santa Fe, but that was a tight turn uphill into a gas station, which was on an uphill itself… One squidgy moment in sixteen hours of driving ain’t bad.)

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:26:43am

re: #153 FormerDirtDart

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Gods, that woman is an idiot. Patterned neck wraps are the socks of the Levant. Our own preshus white soldiers wear them overseas.

“Islamic War Scarf” is a ready-made handle and/or band name, though.

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Alyosha  Jan 7, 2017 • 6:49:43am

Lolololol

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 7:36:43am

re: #283 darthstar

Yup. It’s gotten that bad.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2017 • 7:38:07am

re: #194 teleskiguy

[snip]

This is an absolute disaster for the United States. Frankly, I’d rather Mike Pence was president.

Right where they want ya! ;)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 7, 2017 • 7:38:43am

re: #285 Pawn of the Oppressor

Gods, that woman is an idiot. Patterned neck wraps are the socks of the Levant. Our own preshus white soldiers wear them overseas.

“Islamic War Scarf” is a ready-made handle and/or band name, though.

The suspect had a military ID, so he probably got it at the PX. Geller is an idiot, made worse by drinking and hating too much.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 7:59:40am

Morning all…damn it’s cold. Hopefully that will break a bit tomorrow.

I hope all the Lizards in the paths of all the crazy weather on both coasts and down south stay safe.

Sounds like the worst weather is going to hit the west coast. I think I heard reports of 12” of rain and 4’ of snow in parts of California depending on elevation.

Flooding and mud slides predicted…not good for anyone anywhere.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:01:58am

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:04:10am

re: #113 BeachDem

Saw Cheap Trick at the Newport in 1991. One of my OSU students was in a band that opened for them. I still have (somewhere) a CT guitar pick, and the awesome red boots I wore to the concert!

Heh, the Heap Trick show I saw on the original national tour was at The Agora, which as you know became the Newport. One of the oldest and to me great concert venues in America. Of course, being right across the street from Ohio State University with it’s many tens of thousands of students makes for ready crowds.

Damn, the memories in that building are great. I probably saw at least 100 shows there.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:11:56am
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Cheechako  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:26:02am

re: #268 Anymouse

This keeps up and I’m going to move to Alaska, where it’s warmer. It’s fricking warmer in Whitehorse, Yukon than it is here (-11F).

weather.gc.ca

It’s 24F here in SE Alaska. The bad news is we’re expecting high winds….60 to 80 MPH gusts!!!
I wonder what the wind chill will be with that wind

Had a 70 MPH downtown yesterday afternoon.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:33:37am

re: #156 teleskiguy

All-weather tires are shit compared to good snow tires. Maybe it’s because I drive in snow a bunch, I have experience with both kinds of tires in snow and ice, and snow tires are pretty much a godsend. My mom switches out her tires on her Audi TT every winter to studded snow tires (those fuckers cost two grand for a set!) and she drives over Vail Pass in the worst conditions to visit the grandkids on the regular. With those tires in the winter she calls the TT her Tiny Tank. Doesn’t matter how bad the roads are, that little two-seater scoots over snow with the proper tires.

‘08 VW Rabbit for me. And I run Dunlop Winter Sport tires. Standard 5-speed with the 2.5 5 cylinder and the “anti-slip” feature that uses the anti-lock brake feature sorta in reverse to stop any wheel spin. I too have to drive around and pass 4-wheel drive vehicles…many times driving down the middle of the damn road taking up all the space. I don’t know how it is done, but I’ve seen people in the larger SUV (Escalades, Explorers, etc.) take up 3 lanes!!!

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austin_blue  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:39:05am

re: #290 ObserverArt

Morning all…damn it’s cold. Hopefully that will break a bit tomorrow.

I hope all the Lizards in the paths of all the crazy weather on both coasts and down south stay safe.

Sounds like the worst weather is going to hit the west coast. I think I heard reports of 12” of rain and 4’ of snow in parts of California depending on elevation.

Flooding and mud slides predicted…not good for anyone anywhere.

Woke up to 20 degrees here in South Austin. It’s 28 now, so 33 consecutive hours at or below freezing. You rarely see that here. I spent three years in the Air Force flying out of K. I. Siberia AFB in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, so I know what really cold is, but the fine Democrats in the this little blue pimple in central Texas find this very very foreign, and since I won’t have the opportunity to say this much longer…

Thanks, Obama!

And good morning to all Lizards everywhere.

She Who Must Be Obeyed is playing orchestra in Kerrville today, so I am rattling around the house cleaning up after last night’s annual Twelfth Night neighborhood party, where we had forty people (in an 1,100 sq ft house) eating duck/sausage gumbo, slap-yo mama greens, and port infused mushrooms in a heavy cream sauce reduction. They left happy, and I’m washing dishes and wine glasses.

And Trump is still as crazy as a run-over turkey. What a card!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:55:51am

re: #290 ObserverArt

Morning all…damn it’s cold. Hopefully that will break a bit tomorrow.

I hope all the Lizards in the paths of all the crazy weather on both coasts and down south stay safe.

Sounds like the worst weather is going to hit the west coast. I think I heard reports of 12” of rain and 4’ of snow in parts of California depending on elevation.

Flooding and mud slides predicted…not good for anyone anywhere.

21° with light snow here. Not unusual for January in Jersey. I’m actually surprised we haven’t gotten more snow—it’s been a pretty mild winter so far.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:57:56am

If you haven’t watched this, you’re missing out (language NSFW):

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 8:59:55am

Good morning from very wet Los Angeles. Woke up with a bone to pick. Now I better scroll up and catch up. :-)

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:05:40am

re: #298 CuriousLurker

If you haven’t watched this, you’re missing out (language NSFW):

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Language is perfectly fucking fine for THIS workplace, thankyouverymuch.

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:08:28am

re: #292 ObserverArt

Heh, the Heap Trick show I saw on the original national tour was at The Agora, which as you know became the Newport. One of the oldest and to me great concert venues in America. Of course, being right across the street from Ohio State University with it’s many tens of thousands of students makes for ready crowds.

Damn, the memories in that building are great. I probably saw at least 100 shows there.

Yep—it was the Agora during my “formative years.” At the 1991 concert, I was probably the oldest person there by about 20 years, and mainly went to support my student. I looked him up last night—he now works in music licensing for a small label in CA (and is almost 50, which makes me feel really old!)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:09:52am

re: #300 wrenchwench

Language is perfectly fucking fine for THIS workplace, thankyouverymuch.

LOL! I loved near the beginning where he said:

I wanna talk about what’s ending—the historic and remarkable presidency of everybody’s favorite gun-hating Muslim from Kenya, my man Barry O.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:15:04am

re: #302 CuriousLurker

LOL! I loved near the beginning where he said:

There were several lines that good, none of which I can remember. Fortunately, it wasn’t a play. I can watch it again.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:17:47am

re: #233 Ace-o-aces

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Also, war scarf?

Damn…it’s been a long time since we’ve seen images of Pam Geller around here at LGF.

I wish it could have been even longer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:19:02am

And let us not forget this Jewish Nobel Prize Laureate Islamist Terrorist

With such hits as

Hey Mr Taliban Man
Allah Along the Watchtower
Visions of Jihadia
A Halal Rain’s Gonna Fall
and
Masters of Holy War

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:19:26am

re: #302 CuriousLurker

Yesterday someone whines that Obama is not in jail. I just pointed out the worrisome actual foreign ties and conflicted loyalties are all about the new guy, the Orange Rookie.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:22:56am
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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:23:50am

re: #304 ObserverArt

LOL, I didn’t read the whole thread so I missed that one.

All the “counter-jihadists” have been in ecstatic overdrive in anticipation of the impending PussyGrabber Presidency. No doubt they’re having visions of Muslims being rounded up and placed in camps starting on January 21.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:24:19am

re: #301 BeachDem

Yep—it was the Agora during my “formative years.” At the 1991 concert, I was probably the oldest person there by about 20 years, and mainly went to support my student. I looked him up last night—he now works in music licensing for a small label in CA (and is almost 50, which makes me feel really old!)

Speaking of really old, in my formative years, I went to the Agora. The one in Athens, Greece.

In the Agora of Athens there were confectioners who made pastries and sweets, slave-traders, fishmongers, vintners, cloth merchants, shoe-makers, dress makers, and jewelry purveyors. A special separate ‘potters market’ was reserved for the buying and selling of cookware as that was considered solely the provenance of women and was frequented by female slaves on task for their mistresses or by the poorer wives and daughters of Athens.

Kinda hafta use your imagination now. Doesn’t sound so great for everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:24:42am

re: #308 CuriousLurker

LOL, I didn’t read the whole thread so I missed that one.

All the “counter-jihadists” have been in ecstatic overdrive in anticipation of the impending PussyGrabber Presidency. No doubt they’re having visions of Muslims being rounded up and placed in camps starting on January 21.

The real jihadists are every bit as excited as well…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:24:57am

re: #298 CuriousLurker

Im thinking to put that right up front on my FB page, public.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:25:36am

re: #306 Unshaken Defiance

Yesterday someone whins that Obama is not in jail. I just pointed out the worrisome actual foreign ties and conflicted loyalties are all about the new guy, the Orange Rookie.

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

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austin_blue  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:27:15am

re: #312 CuriousLurker

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

For being black and daring to be elected president, twice, you silly goose!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:27:20am

re: #312 CuriousLurker

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

Heh. Basically? For pissing off bad white people. 👿

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:30:09am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The real jihadists are every bit as excited as well…

Heh, I’m sure they are. Von ClownStick will be great for recruitment, especially with Flynn as his national security advisor.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:30:33am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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And yet, of the two, I could be friend with Anton LeVay. He isn’t trying to mix it with some form of Christian cultism in a way to gain power.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:31:27am

re: #312 CuriousLurker

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

More seriously, they know what a bag o crap Trump is. So we have some variant of the projection phenom. Cause Obama is going to be declared the villain for all things wrong Orange Rookie can’t handle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:31:50am

re: #312 CuriousLurker

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

Winning two presidential elections with over 50% of the vote as a black Democrat is a serious offense.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:33:14am

Good essay. I’ll give away the ending so those who are so inclined will go RTWT.

[…]My friends and I honestly believed that if we stuck by one another and searched for power within ourselves, we would find it. And we weren’t wrong.

There is something scary about being a teenage girl. There’s something frightening about any state of life that involves so many mysteries, and so many drastic changes. But the thing that many people find scariest—the idea that there’s a force in teenage girls that doesn’t follow the rules and can’t be controlled, that these girls might be going off together and forging something new, something unknown and surprisingly powerful—isn’t scary at all. It’s deeply awesome. And, unlike the deathly curses uttered by Ouija boards, it’s real.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:33:30am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Winning two presidential elections with over 50% of the vote as a black Democrat is a serious offense.

And using a majority in House and Senate to pass legislation that offends GOP sentiments is also a hanging offense.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:35:15am

re: #317 Unshaken Defiance

More seriously, they know what a bag o crap Trump is. So we have some variant of the projection phenom. Cause Obama is going to be declared the villain for all things wrong Orange Rookie can’t handle.

Exactly. BTW, this is worth a read, if you have time—nothing earth-shatteringly new really, but it’s well written and therefore interesting:

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:38:37am

re: #279 Barefoot Grin

I went to bed after posting the Cheap Trick video. What a band. I was too young, but my brother saw them regularly at the Red Lion Inn in Champaign, Il in the ’70s before they broke. But he had all of their records through the ’80s, so I loved them early on. In college my roommate was head of the concert board and no one else ever showed up for meetings, so he and I would just choose bands we liked (and there was a considerable budget). For an outdoor show we got Cheap Trick (probably 1986) once—no one knew them except for “I Want You to Want Me.” But they played some of their back catalogue and just kicked ass. (We also had Hoodoo Gurus, The Bangles, Elvis Costello w/ Nick Lowe, Billy Bragg, and a few others I can’t recall.) Good times!

Damn good choices!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:38:59am

re: #319 wrenchwench

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Good essay. I’ll give away the ending so those who are so inclined will go RTWT.

See now this talk of scary teenage girls, Ouija boards, and Anton LaVey reminds me of this, which I came across yesterday:

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:39:56am

re: #308 CuriousLurker

LOL, I didn’t read the whole thread so I missed that one.

All the “counter-jihadists” have been in ecstatic overdrive in anticipation of the impending PussyGrabber Presidency. No doubt they’re having visions of Muslims being rounded up and placed in camps starting on January 21.

Go check out #256. I don’t think the “counter-jihadists” are going to get the welcome they think they’ll get.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:41:46am

re: #323 CuriousLurker

This paragraph especially jumped out at me (emphasis mine):

From the start, the colonists tangled with that American staple, the swarthy terrorist in the back yard. Without a knock or a greeting, four armed Indians might appear in your parlor to warm themselves by the fire, propositioning you, while you cowered in the corner with your knitting. You could return from a trip to Boston to find your house in ashes and your family taken captive. The Indians skulked, they lurked, they flitted, they committed atrocities—and they vanished. “Our men could see no enemy to shoot at,” a Cambridge major general lamented.

I can’t imagine why the native Americans weren’t friendlier to people who felt they had the right to push them off their land and claim it for themselves. Such irrational, violent people. //

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:43:02am

re: #324 Belafon

Go check out #256. I don’t think the “counter-jihadists” are going to get the welcome they think they’ll get.

Thanks, that’s good to hear.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:43:23am

re: #321 CuriousLurker

Exactly. BTW, this is worth a read, if you have time—nothing earth-shatteringly new really, but it’s well written and therefore interesting:

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Interesting article. There’s a lot of soft racism I’d say among those town folks and nostagia for a time that never really was.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:44:08am

re: #321 CuriousLurker

Exactly. BTW, this is worth a read, if you have time—nothing earth-shatteringly new really, but it’s well written and therefore interesting:

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My stepmother’s brother lives in Mount Airy. She has frequently apologized for that time she called him a hick.

After reading that, I’m thinking that’s where she got the screaming deal on the Thomas Kinkade in her living room.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:46:08am

re: #328 wrenchwench

Oh gawd, Thomas Kinkade… 😝

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:47:33am

re: #329 CuriousLurker

Oh gawd, Thomas Kinkade… 😝

I am NOT saying my stepmother is a hick, but she always includes the master of light when she says his name.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:47:53am

re: #321 CuriousLurker

RW fantasy-Andy Griffith Sheriff.
RW reality-Barney Fife in charge.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:48:59am

re: #331 Unshaken Defiance

RW fantasy-Andy Griffith Sheriff.
RW reality-Barney Fife in charge.

Yeah they seem to be projecting a lot of their hopes and dreams on to Trump. I think they’re going to be bitterly disappointed when he shows himself for what he really is. We tried warning them.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:49:55am

re: #331 Unshaken Defiance

RW fantasy-Andy Griffith Sheriff.
RW reality-Barney Fife in charge.

At a time when we need Aunt Bea. Or, ‘Ain’t Bee’ as Andy called her.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:51:13am

re: #301 BeachDem

Yep—it was the Agora during my “formative years.” At the 1991 concert, I was probably the oldest person there by about 20 years, and mainly went to support my student. I looked him up last night—he now works in music licensing for a small label in CA (and is almost 50, which makes me feel really old!)

I wonder if we were at some of those great shows at the same time. I would almost bet on it. Many times I was right down front in the floor seating area. I lived there.

Remember when they would have $.50 midnight shows? I saw Canned Heat at one of those and I think we didn’t get out of there until like 4:00 AM!

In the ‘73-‘74 college school years I lived just off the Ohio State campus in a three floor apartment just about at the end of Norwhich St. just up from The Varsity Club and Tuttle park, even though I went to CCAD downtown. I had a good friend at OSU and we got a place together with two other dudes for that one year.

It was great because we could walk up to High Street and hit the bars and The Agora…and then “walk” back home without having to drive. The ideal situation for a not yet 21 year old that had older friends that slipped me the hard stuff to go along with all the smokeables.

Ahhh…memories! And I do remember.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:51:23am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Yeah they seem to be projecting a lot of their hopes and dreams on to Trump. I think they’re going to be bitterly disappointed when he shows himself for what he really is. We tried warning them.

They hate Politicians and Politics as usual. Although the GOP, despite controlling the House and Senate for years, somehow still managed to sell themselves as plucky rebels standing up to the Evil Empire.

Now there is no question of who is fully in charge and who gets to take responsibility for it all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:53:29am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They hate Politicians and Politics as usual. Although the GOP, despite controlling the House and Senate for years, somehow still managed to sell themselves as plucky rebels standing up to the Evil Empire.

Now there is no question of who is fully in charge and who gets to take responsibility for it all.

I think the GOP gets away with that because they see the GOP and their officials as their people. As I said, there’s a lot of racism among those town folks. They’re not KKK like racists or Breitbart comment sections racist but racists nonetheless. The quotes by the one preacher’s wife really said it all to me about handouts and all that jazz.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:54:19am

re: #312 CuriousLurker

What exactly is he supposed to be in jail for (aside from being black and daring to be elected president, twice)?

BENGHAZI!!!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:54:58am

re: #331 Unshaken Defiance

RW fantasy-Andy Griffith Sheriff.
RW reality-Barney Fife in charge.

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Yeah they seem to be projecting a lot of their hopes and dreams on to Trump. I think they’re going to be bitterly disappointed when he shows himself for what he really is. We tried warning them.

Yeah, the reality check is gonna be brutal when they realize DT doesn’t have a time machine to transport them back to the ’50s. The amount of magical thinking it takes to believe what he tells them is mind boggling. I can almost (but not quite) feel a little bit sorry for them, but the minute I start to, their whiny selfishness & pious self-righteousness makes that feeling quickly evaporate.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:56:05am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Yeah they seem to be projecting a lot of their hopes and dreams on to Trump. I think they’re going to be bitterly disappointed when he shows himself for what he really is. We tried warning them.

Worrisome-That disappointment is going to be violent resentments, against us for being right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:57:03am

re: #338 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the reality check is gonna be brutal when they realize DT doens’t have a time machine to transport them back to the ’50s. The amount of magical thinking it takes to believe what he tells them is mind boggling. I can almost (but not quite) feel a little bit sorry for them, but the minute I start to, their whiny selfishness & pious self-righteousness makes that feeling quickly evaporate.

Yeah I lose any pity I might have when they start whining about a past that never was and start admonishing other groups in a self-righteous way. The mayor and the preacher’s wife interviewed to me showed that the most.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 9:58:16am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

Worrisome-That disappointment is going to be violent resentments, against us for being right.

And that’s exactly what I’m worried about. These people are going to be upset and Trump and the GOP aren’t going to be teh subject of those resentments and disappointments.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:01:20am

re: #323 CuriousLurker

See now this talk of scary teenage girls, Ouija boards, and Anton LaVey reminds me of this, which I came across yesterday:

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Stacy Schiff’s book is really good. I need to read it again. It’s amazing how the context changes, but the rudiments of human psychology that lead to mass panic and paranoia don’t.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:02:04am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

Worrisome-That disappointment is going to be violent resentments, against us for being right.

I agree. Sadly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see another Oklahoma City type event when the reality hits them and the rage & resentment kicks in. I hope I’m/we’re wrong, but I don’t see them going quietly into the night and suddenly being willing to share control of “their” America.

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:02:32am

re: #334 ObserverArt

I’m sure we were breathing the same air at some point. My regular hangout was the Sarene on High Street near 10th—was really close with the house band. Then, on Sundays, when the Sarene was closed, we’d go to the Sugar Shack—I think we’ve talked before about some of the big groups who played there “before they were famous.”

That routine still left time for concerts, other lesser bars, parties and occasional studying while in school/working when I got out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:03:46am

What frustrates me is these people think they can blame Obama for them losing their jobs but they think they have the right to generalize entire racial groups for being on public assistance. I don’t blame people who look back on their childhood era fondly but they do need to know that the world of their upbringing was a flawed place too. To that mayor’s credit, he sort of did acknowledged that but at the same time, he loses me big time when he bitches about black youth and baggy pants.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:06:30am

I never did a Google search for The Agora before. Saw these. I’m surprised I am not in this image down front in front of the band. I was at that show for sure. I’m probably just out of the image to the right.

I bet a ton of the Lizards can readily name the band…I see a lot of comments about them here. That I believe was their first big America tour, as their first hit had just come out, and I bet that is the song they are doing since everyone is getting into it.

Also a good shot of the outside back in the day. Hall and Oats up on the marquee.

Okay…who is the first Lizard to name the band and the song??? No cheating by looking at the image info for the file name.

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:08:48am

Jeez, not only does he tweet out whiny, ignorant shit, but it takes him ten minutes to complete a sentence.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:08:55am

The biggest fear:

Pres. Donald J. Trump*

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:09:19am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

What frustrates me is these people think they can blame Obama for them losing their jobs but they think they have the right to generalize entire racial groups for being on public assistance. I don’t blame people who look back on their childhood era fondly but they do need to know that the world of their upbringing was a flawed place too. To that mayor’s credit, he sort of did acknowledged that but at the same time, he loses me big time when he bitches about black youth and baggy pants.

Yeah, apparently the old axiom about not judging a book by its cover doesn’t apply to everyone. This part also:

From early 2000 to about 2010, about 9,000 private-sector jobs were lost when factories that made clothes went overseas.

Who in the hell was in charge for eight of those ten years? Not Dems.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:13:01am

re: #344 BeachDem

I’m sure we were breathing the same air at some point. My regular hangout was the Sarene on High Street near 10th—was really close with the house band. Then, on Sundays, when the Sarene was closed, we’d go to the Sugar Shack—I think we’ve talked before about some of the big groups who played there “before they were famous.”

That routine still left time for concerts, other lesser bars, parties and occasional studying while in school/working when I got out.

I remember the Sarene Lounge! Didn’t go there a lot though.

I’m trying to remember who was the house band. It’s not clicking right now, but I bet the minute you mention them, I’ll remember.

I hung at Mr. Browns Decent a little farther down the street.

And the old drunken party place The Castle where I ran sound a few times for some friends bands that played there.

Remember their all you could drink cheap 3.2 beer “Drink ‘n’ Drown nights on Sundays? Damn that was nasty. 18 to 21 year olds standing in line to piss off all that watered down “beer.”

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:13:11am

re: #346 ObserverArt

I never did a Google search for The Agora before. Saw these. I’m surprised I am not in this image down front in front of the band. I was at that show for sure. I’m probably just out of the image to the right.

I bet a ton of the Lizards can readily name the band…I see a lot of comments about them here. That I believe was their first big America tour, as their first hit had just come out, and I bet that is the song they are doing since everyone is getting into it.

Also a good shot of the outside back in the day. Hall and Oats up on the marquee.

Okay…who is the first Lizard to name the band and the song??? No cheating by looking at the image info for the file name.

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The band’s name shows when I hover over the photo. (what you named it shows.) It’s almost as bad as when I saw the Catechism teacher write the number down to guess for that week’s prize. I saw the eraser clearly make an ‘11’ in the air. I felt a little guilty, but that means you’re doing Catechism right, doesn’t it?

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:14:03am

re: #349 CuriousLurker

Yeah, apparently the old axiom about not judging a book by its cover doesn’t apply to everyone. This part also:

9,000 private-sector jobs were lost when factories that made clothes went overseas.

Who in the hell was in charge for eight of those ten years? Not Dems.

And how many lost jobs were/are making Trump branded clothing?

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No Depression  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:14:25am

re: #338 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the reality check is gonna be brutal when they realize DT doesn’t have a time machine to transport them back to the ’50s. The amount of magical thinking it takes to believe what he tells them is mind boggling. I can almost (but not quite) feel a little bit sorry for them, but the minute I start to, their whiny selfishness & pious self-righteousness makes that feeling quickly evaporate.

That right there is a big reason why Christianity continues to fade into irrelevance in this country. And good riddance too. I ain’t got time for right-wing “Christianity”.

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:15:40am

re: #351 wrenchwench

The band’s name shows when I hover over the photo. (what you named it shows.) It’s almost as bad as when I saw the Catechism teacher write the number down to guess for that week’s prize. I saw the eraser clearly make an ‘11’ in the air. I felt a little guilty, but that means you’re doing Catechism right, doesn’t it?

That’s not the band’s name wrench. It is a hint though!

Oops..brain fart…wrench! Too much thread reading too fast.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:17:33am

re: #354 ObserverArt

That’s not the band’s name CL. It is a hint though!

It’s not Working Man? Is that the song’s name?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:19:36am

re: #348 Dave In Austin

More like President-alleged…..

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:21:28am

re: #355 wrenchwench

It’s not Working Man? Is that the song’s name?

I can’t just give it away!

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:22:31am
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:26:03am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:26:58am

Over and Over and Over again:

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:27:03am

Back a bit later to see if anyone names the band, etc.

Got some plaster patching going on…

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:27:25am

re: #354 ObserverArt

That’s not the band’s name CL. It is a hint though!

Rush! Back when they still did rock star moves!

The Rickenbacker bass was kind of a giveaway. :)

Just hanging here, getting the first substantial snowfall since last year on LI - forecasts call for 8-12 inches. I got out before it started this morning to buy cat food (pro tip: kittens eat like horses), then swung by the post office to pick up the latest manifestation of my ongoing sickness…

A 1984 Squier Japan E Series Stratocaster. Plenty beat up, but plays and sounds exactly the way it should. And it was cheap! For anyone looking for a vintage Strat for a mere pittance, these are the way to go.

Squier, you ask? Why, yes! These Japanese E Series Squiers gave the American Fenders of the era a run for their money. Build and electronics are on a par with the last couple of American Strats I’ve had.

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weave  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:28:08am

re: #347 BeachDem

I’ve scared some evangelical Christians I know to the bone by pointing out that he may be the Anti-Christ.

1) The Anti-Christ is supposed to pretend to be righteous and fool most Christians .. check
2) Russia is supposed to start Armageddon and attack Israel ALONG WITH ITS ALLIES
3) We are now becoming an ally with Russia
4) Trump will soon control the military and can use it to strike any country without Congressional approval for 48 hours
5) Could Trump be playing us until he can get that control and use it with Putin to destroy Israel?

Those tweets just feed that theory…. that should amp it up some!

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:29:36am

re: #362 makeitstop

Back when they still did rock star moves!

The Rickenbacker bass was kind of a giveaway. :)

Just hanging here, getting the first substantial snowfall since last year on LI - forecasts call for 8-12 inches. I got out before it started this morning to buy cat food (pro tip: kittens eat like horses), then swung by to pick up the latest manifestation of my ongoing sickness…

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Figures you would know!

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:32:09am

re: #350 ObserverArt

I remember the Sarene Lounge! Didn’t go there a lot though.

I’m trying to remember who was the house band. It’s not clicking right now, but I bet the minute you mention them, I’ll remember.

I hung at Mr. Browns Decent a little farther down the street.

And the old drunken party place The Castle where I ran sound a few times for some friends bands that played there.

Remember their all you could drink cheap 3.2 beer “Drink ‘n’ Drown nights on Sundays? Damn that was nasty. 18 to 21 year olds standing in line to piss off all that watered down “beer.”

The Sarene house band was The Apocalypse (their earlier name was 4 Knights and a Dave—which was Dave Harris; not to be confused with Jimmy Harris, who was lead singer for another band that played the Sugar Shack a lot.)

They put out a record—cover of “I Dig Your Act.” I was at the recording session (and the after-party at TJ’s Barbecue—when it was an illegal pit barbecue place off E. 5th)

the Apoacalypse “I DIG YOUR ACT”

Apparently there was some big reunion event in October at Villa Milano with a lot of the old bands. Must have been fun.

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A Cranky One  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:39:34am

After all the comments about weather, I guess I should post this:

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 7, 2017 • 10:48:13am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lily, Rosemary, and the Muhammad of Hearts

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:01:23am

re: #366 A Cranky One

The flood river that flies in

Aka the “big wet kiss” Screen snapped a minute ago

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ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:04:28am

I didn’t expect to find info on the Russians hacking at ESPN…but there it was. Something else to add to the slate.

ESPN - Russian cyberattacks influenced by WADA investigation

Intelligence officials believe that Russian hacking efforts made against the United States were done in part as retaliation for a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) investigation that led to dozens of Russians being banned from the Rio de Janeiro Olympics.

The 25-page report published Friday, compiled with information from the CIA, the FBI and the National Security Agency, says Russian President Vladimir Putin included the Olympic doping scandal as an example of “US-directed efforts to defame Russia, suggesting he sought to use disclosures to discredit the image of the United States and cast it as hypocritical.”

The report stated that Russia has also targeted WADA and Olympic athletes in efforts to release or change personal data, deface websites and release emails. It also noted that a Russian cyberespionage group had published the records of athletes with clearance to take typically banned substances for medical reasons.

Russian news media and sports officials have pointed to those records as evidence that Western athletes have been given preferential treatment and are doping

“It is impossible to know just how deep and how far back this conspiracy goes,” McLaren said last month. “For years, international sports competitions have unknowingly been hijacked by Russians. Coaches and athletes have been playing on an uneven field. Sports fans and spectators have been deceived.”

McLaren’s second and final report said the conspiracy involved the Russian Sports Ministry, the country’s anti-doping agency and the Federal Security Service, Russia’s top intelligence agency.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:06:51am

re: #369 ObserverArt

I didn’t expect to find info on the Russians hacking at ESPN…but there it was. Something else to add to the slate.

ESPN - Russian cyberattacks influenced by WADA investigation

I wonder whether Putin tried to befriend Lance Armstrong? (WADA’s previous big target.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:20:48am

Morning Lizards.

I woke up to a bunch of mentions on my Twitter because one of the bigger cross stitch streamers on Twitch (yes, this is a thing) mentioned my app and was very happy with it. Always a really nice way to wake up, to see people appreciating the work you did.

It’s raining here. mr. klys’s fever appears to be down, so there’s maybe a small chance he’ll be feeling well enough to go into the city for whatever my Christmas surprise is supposed to be. (The reservations are non-changeable and non-refundable so I’d really like to go …not to mention I’d like to find out what it is…)

This weekend is actually the big marathon weekend down at Walt Disney World - the only full marathon runDisney does (runDisney being who I am doing my half with) and the weather has not played nicely with them. They cancelled this morning’s half marathon and the kids races because of the potential for lightning in the race area. Hoping that doesn’t happen with my race next weekend! (Also, that mr. klys keeps his damn flu to himself.)

I do want to do the full marathon there at some point, but I really should finish a half first. Well, officially. I’ve run a half at this point.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:21:19am

At issue was a report on Breitbart, headlined “Revealed: 1,000-man mob attack police, set Germany’s oldest church alight on New Year’s Eve.” The story, written by Virginia Hale, claimed the mob “chanted Allahu Akbar (God is greatest), launched fireworks at police and set fire to a historic church.” According to local police speaking with local newspaper, Ruhr Nachrichten, no such thing happened.

Officials also noted that Breitbart is owned by Trump advisor Stephen Bannon, who joined the president-elect’s campaign when it was floundering and helped shape the inflammatory racial rhetoric that contributed to Trump’s surprising victory.

The story, which was posted to the website on Jan 3 is still available without any corrections, updates or editor’s notes.

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austin_blue  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:23:56am

re: #372 Single-handed sailor

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Move on, move on…nothing to see here…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:29:21am

Here’s an older piece that I did that seems appropriate for a number of Lizards today.

Instagram

After a fantastic hockey game tonight, not ready to go to bed …so here’s a finish! January from A Year In Chalk, stitched on the recommended linen. I subbed B5200 for the Chalk and Caron Wildflowers Ocean Breeze for the Tropical Ocean. I love how this came out.

#crossstitch #crossstitching #crossstitchersofinstagram #ayearinchalk #finished

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Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:39:38am
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ckkatz  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:39:51am

re: #321 CuriousLurker

Exactly. BTW, this is worth a read, if you have time—nothing earth-shatteringly new really, but it’s well written and therefore interesting:

Good article!

The whole maga thing seemed to me to be based upon the Garden of Eden story. The whole point of which, is that you cannot go back.

Two things would then follow…

His followers are likely expecting nothing in return, the few who are actually expecting a return to the Garden of Eden are in for a surprise.

Trump sells nothing and grifts all he can loot in return. Which seems to be his modus operendi

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:40:43am

And while the yam has (some of) the Rockettes, (some of) the MTC and a runner-up on a reality show talent contest, Obama’s farewell party featured:

some of the biggest A-listers around. Attendees reportedly included Meryl Streep, George and Amal Clooney, Robert De Niro, Beyoncé and Jay Z, Nick Jonas, Jordin Sparks, David Letterman, Paul McCartney, Kelly Rowland, Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis…

Are you tired yet?

… Samuel Jackson, Magic Johnson, Tom Hanks, Rev. Al Sharpton, Jerry Seinfeld, Stevie Wonder, Charles Barkley Steven Spielberg, Marc Anthony, Sarah Jessica Parker, Tyler Perry, Chrissy Teigen and John Legend…

And, yes, even more.

The funniest tweet:

huffingtonpost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:46:01am

The Google things had a baby.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:46:51am

re: #366 A Cranky One

Yes. That sounds about right. Oh by the way it is snowing in Philly.

weather.gov

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Skip Intro  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:51:24am

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:54:58am

re: #358 goddamnedfrank

“…Only “stupid” people, or fools, would think that it is bad!”

He’s such a clod.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:56:24am
384
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:57:16am

Monica Crowley, Trump team national security communications persona, and plagiarist.

Tons of examples at the CNN link. Sad!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2017 • 11:57:52am

re: #381 Skip Intro

I want one of those hats!

*** Oh, looks like it’s on eBay… can our resident Russian speakers verify the spelling?

ebay.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:02:13pm

re: #383 jaunte

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This isn’t fucking normal sigh.

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:05:02pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:15:40pm

Hey my fellow lizards, Target here from the planet Hoth, formerly known as Virginia Beach. It seems that the weather wizard Cantore brought the blizzard with him, as the wind and snow has seriously picked up since last night. No snowfall estimates just yet, but the uneducated eye says it’s above the usual amounts for this time of year here. As you can probably guess, that’s meant the locals are in a panic and cannibalism can’t be far behind.

Donner, party of 50. Donner Party!////

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:18:12pm

re: #385 GlutenFreeJesus

I want one of those hats!

*** Oh, looks like it’s on eBay… can our resident Russian speakers verify the spelling?

ebay.com

Alas, not quite grammatical — and it doesn’t quite mean what he wants it to… what you’re looking for is below:

сделать Америку снова великой

ETA: …which is what the one on ebay has, except for the word order, so you’re good.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:26:46pm

13 days, THIRTEEN DAYS!

Not long at all.
Still, with the FEMA camps finally ready we should be able to round up a shit load of patriots, libertarians, and dudebros in that time.
Expensive as the program was, slipping all that micro-chipped ammo into the system the last few years will help a lot. Good thing we had our own gun experts so we knew to add chipped caps for hand-loaders. Just flip a switch at the Denver HQ and every time a defiant gun-humper goes to squeeze the trigger, his AR-15 will burst into flames and melt down into a hunk of twisted and charred plastic and steel right in front of him. Since they love to film themselves shooting we should be able to get some very amusing video out of this.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:32:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:33:00pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

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Sigh sick of the excuses for WL and Assenge.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:33:17pm

This is a major storm for NJ. Here is the latest from newsworks.org.

newsworks.org

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Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:33:39pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:34:00pm

re: #388 Targetpractice

In the meantime, we have a wind chill of -4 degrees F (-20 degrees C) here in the wild north country. The low next Friday is supposed to be -10 degrees F (-23 degrees C).

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allegro  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:42:03pm

We’re up to a toasty 40 degrees here in Houston after low 20s overnight. Another such hard freeze again tonight. The park turns our water off in a hard freeze and I haven’t even bothered to go out to reconnect since it’s gonna be gone again soon. My hose is probably still froze anyway. I got my water jugs for necessities and wine for fluid sustenance. Been on a cooking spree so my fridge is filled with the most excellent nosh.

And there’s football in an hour! I’m calling it a good day.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:42:27pm

We’ve got 3-4 inches of snow out there now, and it isn’t even supposed to start snowing heavily here until 9 or 10 o’clock tonight. I’d say we’re due for a foot or better.

Sure does look nice through the window.

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:43:59pm

re: #384 GlutenFreeJesus

Monica Crowley, Trump team national security communications persona, and plagiarist.

Tons of examples at the CNN link. Sad!

But, but yam’s transition team says:

HarperCollins—one of the largest and most respected publishers in the world—published her book which has become a national best-seller.

And Milli Vanilli sold a lot of album…

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Stanley Sea  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:47:55pm

A thing of beauty.

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allegro  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:51:08pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea

A thing of beauty.

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Yes he is. Oh, did you mean the other meat?

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:51:19pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea

Yeah, he’s gorgeous. Oh, wait—did you mean the BBQ? //

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:51:56pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea

Nice. But I prefer Stephen Raichlen.

whyy.org

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:52:34pm

The clear skies this morning let me catch an effect I’ve only seen a couple of times. There’s a pointy peak on our eastern horizon. As the Earth’s axis tilts, the sunrise goes from north of the peak to south of the peak, where it stays for a few weeks. Today was the day the sun rose first on the north side, then got high enough to shine from behind the narrower peak on both sides. It looked like two suns, one each north and south. Then I quit watching so I could retain my vision. Tomorrow it will be all north, until next December 3rd. It’s usually too cloudy or hazy to see it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:53:30pm

re: #400 allegro

Yes he is. Oh, did you mean the other meat?

Definitely meant the guy with the knife.

405
wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:53:38pm

re: #400 allegro

Yes he is. Oh, did you mean the other meat?

re: #401 CuriousLurker

Yeah, he’s gorgeous. Oh, wait—did you mean the BBQ? //

GIRLS!

406
ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:53:56pm

re: #397 makeitstop

We’ve got 3-4 inches of snow out there now, and it isn’t even supposed to start snowing heavily here until 9 or 10 o’clock tonight. I’d say we’re due for a foot or better.

Sure does look nice through the window.

I was just looking at the Weather Channel online and saw your comment. I checked the current map and it looks like Long Island is right in the center of the storm and it is streaming straight out of Virginia across the Chesapeake Bay and the edge of the coast and heading your way for what looks like hours of storm to go.

Good luck. This looks like a heavy one.

407
ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:56:57pm

Looks like some of our female members are warming up…no matter the temps in their part of the country. : )

408
Belafon  Jan 7, 2017 • 12:59:27pm

Of all the major countries in the world, there’s exactly one country that would like to see us gone: Russia.

409
Stanley Sea  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:00:34pm

You’re welcome.

410
HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:00:41pm

re: #408 Belafon

Of all the major countries in the world, there’s exactly one country that would like to see us gone: Russia.

Yep and Trump wants them to be our new bestie. Friends let friends hack others elections apparently.

411
Bubblehead II  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:01:09pm

The re: #408 Belafon

Of all the major countries in the world, there’s exactly one country that would like to see us gone: Russia.

I think you can add China to that list as well

412
CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:02:50pm
413
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:04:30pm

re: #405 wrenchwench

GIRLS!

Girls? Where?!

414
Belafon  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:04:50pm

re: #411 Bubblehead II

We’re China’s largest customer and one of their biggest employers. China would like us to have less influence in Asia, but they still need us.

415
wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:07:32pm

re: #413 GlutenFreeJesus

Girls? Where?!

Ry Cooder Footprints in the Snow.wmv

416
CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:09:30pm
417
ObserverArt  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:11:42pm

re: #412 CuriousLurker

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Video

O. H. I. O.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:15:11pm

I wonder if we’ll ever have another POTUS who can pull this off…

Raw Video: Obama Sings Al Green

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:22:11pm

re: #418 CuriousLurker

I wonder if we’ll ever have another POTUS who can pull this off…

[Embedded content]

That could make a yam cry.

420
thedopefishlives  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:22:33pm

re: #419 wrenchwench

That could make a yam cry.

Don’t be silly. Yams only have the best emotions.

421
Stanley Sea  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:22:38pm

re: #418 CuriousLurker

I wonder if we’ll ever have another POTUS who can pull this off…

[Embedded content]

Video

That is the best clip ever.

422
I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:25:34pm

It’s snowing in Brooklyn. This is proof that global warming is a hoax and the US needs more guns.

423
Belafon  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:26:32pm

re: #422 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s snowing in Brooklyn. This is proof that global warming is a hoax and the US needs more guns.

One bullet per snowflake.

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allegro  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:26:51pm

re: #421 Stanley Sea

That is the best clip ever.

It is a good one. Amazing Grace got me straight in the heart though.

425
wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:35:25pm

re: #422 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s snowing in Brooklyn. This is proof that global warming is a hoax and the US needs more guns.

Maybe just not the gun with which a local 24 year old shot himself in the head accidentally a few days ago. Can we be selective and use a time machine?

426
William Lewis  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:37:09pm

Ran into this the other day and don’t think I’ve seen it here. From one end of 2016 to the other…

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wrenchwench  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:38:59pm

re: #426 William Lewis

Ran into this the other day and don’t think I’ve seen it here. From one end of 2016 to the other…

[Embedded content]

That’s great. I bet Carrie and David would love it, too.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:44:46pm

re: #406 ObserverArt

I was just looking at the Weather Channel online and saw your comment. I checked the current map and it looks like Long Island is right in the center of the storm and it is streaming straight out of Virginia across the Chesapeake Bay and the edge of the coast and heading your way for what looks like hours of storm to go.

Good luck. This looks like a heavy one.

We’re good, for the most part. Vehicles are gassed up, food in the house, new guitar down in the studio. :)

I should go out and stock up on smokes, though. We may have friends/bandmates coming over tonight and if we start drinking everybody’s gonna bum smokes off of me.

429
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:46:20pm
430
stpaulbear  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:46:28pm

I just saw on Facebook that today is Sandy Denny’s birthday. So sad that she died so young.

Banks Of The Nile

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b.d.  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:53:44pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:53:51pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Am also much enjoying Ball with bases, hot dogs, and Chevrolet automobiles. Making America Again Great, or will be BIG TROUBLE for Moose and Squirrel!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:54:16pm

Since it’s winter right now, is Huck saying that global warming is real after all?

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ckkatz  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:55:06pm

re: #430 stpaulbear

Great Song!

I have always made a point of listening to Sandy Denny’s “Who know where the Time Goes” in the late fall. I grew up in Western Pennsylvania and associate it, and her singing in general, with that time of year.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2017 • 1:58:54pm

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Since it’s winter right now, is Huck saying that global warming is real after all?

I’m so sick of the term ‘snowflake’ and how Trumpers think they’re delivering a sick burn by calling people that. All it shows me is they don’t have an original thought in their empty little heads.

That said - if someone called me that to my face, there would be a problem.

436
Bubblehead II  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:05:34pm

re: #414 Belafon

We’re China’s largest customer and one of their biggest employers. China would like us to have less influence in Asia, but they still need us.

Perhaps. But I think you should also consider that they would”t shed a tear if we fell as a global political/military force either.

437
ckkatz  Jan 7, 2017 • 2:14:43pm

re: #436 Bubblehead II

It’s an interesting question.

My sense is:

China has benefitted from the global system the US has set up and maintained. And was likely to contine to do so for some time.

However, strategically, things have changed since the 1970’s when the only way China could drop a nuclear bomb on a a location would have been to build a tower over the spot and push the bomb off of it. They are looking to see how they can benefit from this change.

China either has, or will shortly have the world’s largest economy. The US percentage of global economy is shrinking. There is debate on the cost of maintaining the world’s global financial and other systems versus the cost of giving up on them. Certainly, no one trusts most other countries to run them in as altruistic a way as we have.

I suspect that even if we survive the Trump period, we will have lost control over those systems.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 7, 2017 • 3:51:53pm

re: #321 CuriousLurker

Exactly. BTW, this is worth a read, if you have time—nothing earth-shatteringly new really, but it’s well written and therefore interesting:

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My best friend grew up there. She’s lesbian and her first girlfriend was black. Growing up, she had to literally drive out of town to be herself, although aside from that, she said her adolescence wasn’t that bad for a non-hetero growing up in the south. “Different” people are always around, if you dig a little…

“You think back to the 1990s, and conservative Christians could throw around the phrase ‘moral majority,’ and there was a kernel of truth to that,” said Robert P. Jones, chief executive at PRRI and author of “The End of White Christian America.” “Even in 2008, they could say the country is on our side on [same-sex marriage], and that’s changed so quickly in this last decade. The election hit on fundamental questions about what America is and should be.”

Fun fact for Mr. Jones: Even back in the 90’s, everyone thought the “Moral Majority” folks were assholes. I remember, I was there.


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