Confirmed: White Supremacist Troll Chuck C. Johnson Is Advising the Trump Team on Appointees

Hateful racist stalker and notorious troll is helping pick Trump’s administration
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White supremacists Richard B. Spencer (L) and Chuck C. Johnson at the GOP convention

Last month we pointed out that infamous cyberstalker and overt white supremacist troll Chuck C. Johnson, banned for life from Twitter and suspended multiple times from Facebook for hate speech, was bragging that he was helping the Trump team vet potential political appointees.

Today, Ryan Mac and Matt Drange at Forbes have confirmed that these weren’t empty boasts; according to them, several sources in Trump’s transition team have now confirmed that Chuck C. Johnson Is Helping To Pick Your Next Government.

An internet troll, who was once called “the most hated man on the internet” and is banned from Twitter, is recommending candidates to serve in the Trump administration.

Charles “Chuck” Johnson, a controversial blogger and conservative online personality, has been pushing for various political appointees to serve under Donald Trump, according to multiple sources close to the President-elect’s transition team. While Johnson does not have a formal position, FORBES has learned that he is working behind the scenes with members of the transition team’s executive committee, including billionaire Trump donor Peter Thiel, to recommend, vet and give something of a seal of approval to potential nominees from the so-called “alt-right.”

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FORBES verified Johnson’s involvement with multiple people close to the transition team who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. When asked about his work with the transition team, Johnson said last month that he had “no formal role,” and was vague regarding his level of influence. Johnson agreed to multiple phone and email interviews with FORBES in December, but he declined to return repeated follow-up requests for comment this month.

Johnson, of course, is well-known for harassing and outing rape victims, outing Ebola victims, hanging out with white supremacists and writing for white nationalist sites like Takimag and Vdare, and a host of other vile far right activities, and is notorious for threatening to sue anyone and everyone who criticizes him.

Just when you thought the Trump Horror couldn’t possibly get much worse.

Yesterday, Johnson was posting his usual racist fare at Facebook, defending “pharma bro” Martin Shkreli against “anti-white racism” and threatening to sue Twitter (again).

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UPDATE at 1/10/17 10:35:38 am by Charles Johnson

Our hilarious update of the day: the Rage Furby is now ranting on his Facebook page that he’s going to … wait for it … sue Forbes!

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495 comments

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:40:44pm

That Forbes article takes it way too easy on him.

Hell, they are actually helping him legitimize what he’s doing.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:47:51pm
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scottslemmons  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:48:24pm

It’s going to be the most pooped-on White House in history.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:48:35pm

arby’s ad is hijacking the page again and again and again

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:49:25pm
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Eigth Immortal  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:50:00pm

This is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen on LGF.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:50:09pm

re: #4 Scottishdragon

arby’s ad is hijacking the page again and again and again

OK - I turned off the ad network probably responsible for that. Can you reload and let me know if you’re still seeing it?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:51:30pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

There’s an alternate universe where this will be relevant to his confirmation…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:53:11pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

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But but Obama Iran deal.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:53:39pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Looks okay now. Before, the Arby’s ad kept jacking the page back to where the ad was showing repeatedly and I couldn’t scroll away from it. Then the ad would start again and jerk the page right back. It took me 4 attempts to finally write that short message.

Better now. Thanks.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:54:07pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Trumpanzees won’t care. Neither will Republican Senators. He’s a shoo-in.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:54:50pm

I had no idea that advising people on floor shitting had a place in the White House.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:54:52pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

Trumpanzees won’t care. Neither will Republican Senators. He’s a shoo-in.

Not sure about that, actually.

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:56:04pm

It’s official.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2017 • 2:57:15pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Man, you’ve got it tough. First folks complain that you pay too much attention to him, giving him publicity he doesn’t deserve, then other folks think you’re him. Or claim to think that. Then the stupid Arby’s ad!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:00:21pm

re: #14 Jenner7

Accountant: “You spent $12 000 on a hotel room and $3000 on dinner??”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:02:06pm

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH? Really pathetic to see this little asshole rewarded for years of being a total asshole.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:03:35pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH? Really pathetic to see this little asshole rewarded for years of being a total asshole.

The sad thing is this comment applies to the majority of people associated with the incoming administration.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:04:29pm

re: #18 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The sad thing is this comment applies to the majority of people associated with the incoming administration.

Too true.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:05:28pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH?

Being a destructive, racist nihilist.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:09:50pm

Well, I guess now we understand how all of Drumpf’s picks have been ultimate train wrecks.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:10:34pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH? Really pathetic to see this little asshole rewarded for years of being a total asshole.

Because he’s in with the alt-right—you know, that group that no one in the Trump team knows anything about—and CCJ can make sure Trump keeps the alt-right’s lizard brains happy….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:10:41pm

re: #21 thedopefishlives

Well, I guess now we understand how all of Drumpf’s picks have been ultimate train wrecks.

and lily white and male.

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No Depression  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:15:15pm

I honestly don’t feel any love for this country anymore. It sickens me to live in a country that rewards being a hateful nihilistic fuckstick.

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:19:21pm

Priebus is on Greta’s new show lying his ass off.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:20:56pm

Meryl Streep already managed something out of last night. She now has her very own Garbage Pail Kid(s).

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:21:50pm

re: #24 No Depression

I honestly don’t feel any love for this country anymore. It sickens me to live in a country that rewards being a hateful nihilistic fuckstick.

‘The country’ doesn’t do that. Some of the people in the country do that. A minority of the people. Getting smaller all the time. And the rewards for being a hateful nihilistic fuckstick can be found around the world. Don’t hate the world. Work to get it back. Or at least the country.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:23:35pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:24:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:25:17pm

re: #26 lockjawcanbefun

Meryl Streep already managed something out of last night. She now has her very own Garbage Pail Kid(s).

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Can’t wait to see how the big manbaby reacts to that one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:25:22pm

I know what is coming next. Milo and Roosh V appointed to head Hair Furor’s very own Schutzstaffel. Roosh V will set up the Fat Camps where attractive but overweight women are sent to “get slim” while Milo will select the very finest Young Black Men for his own personal sex toys.

The Hugo Boss uniforms will be fabulous!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:26:54pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thing is Kellyanne, we’ve seen what’s in his heart too. Your boss is a man who pays for his lawsuits with charity money but go on tell us more how we don’t understand a man you claimed to dislike before he started paying your paycheck and looking at your husband for a solicitor general job. Face it, you work for a repulsive excuse for a human being.and your pretense of having morality is bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:29:43pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH? Really pathetic to see this little asshole rewarded for years of being a total asshole.

Only comfort is the thought that he will probably get stiffed on any payment or salary…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:30:14pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Only comfort is the thought that he will probably get stiffed on any payment or salary…

True.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:32:48pm

this is truly pathetic

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:34:36pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is truly pathetic

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Doin’ weird things with his hair, even back then.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:35:28pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is truly pathetic

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:37:09pm

Counter-sting catches James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas attempting to incite violence at the inauguration.
huffingtonpost.com

I’m sure the GOP will be right on this to try him for incitement. /s

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JasonA  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:37:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:38:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:38:30pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Usher - Black Black Heart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:39:08pm

re: #38 Anymouse

Counter-sting catches James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas attempting to incite violence at the inauguration.
huffingtonpost.com

I’m sure the GOP will be right on this to try him for incitement. /s

Serves him right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:39:56pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Oh, I see let’s have Benghazi investigations galore but we don’t want to investigate this. Oh and we’re going to roll back sanctions on them too. God, it couldn’t be anymore obvious that these guys are Russia’s puppets.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:40:25pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

We all knew the sanctions were temporary - or at least, I did. The fact that Drumpf is so obviously in bed with Putin made it abundantly clear that whatever punishment Obama doled out would be completely undone by the end of January.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:41:28pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

We all knew the sanctions were temporary - or at least, I did. The fact that Drumpf is so obviously in bed with Putin made it abundantly clear that whatever punishment Obama doled out would be completely undone by the end of January.

And yet I saw a stupid Hugh Hewitt op-ed where Clueless Hugh suggests that Trump may be playing the Russians. Uh no, Hugh, he’s their puppet.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:42:57pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Oh, I see let’s have Benghazi investigations galore but we don’t want to investigate this. Oh and we’re going to roll back sanctions on them too. God, it couldn’t be anymore obvious that these guys are Russia’s puppets.

I was not a big fan of Ronald Reagan when I was in the Navy, but he at least could vet and appoint somewhat competent people for his administration.

I’m sure glad I’m not in the Navy now; I’m not sure what I would do under a Trump administration. The law and court rulings are clear that a member of the Armed Forces should not follow illegal orders (and I am sure those will be coming), but at the same time, most enlisted people are not familiar enough with various laws and treaties to determine what an illegal order is.

And if you refuse an order, it’s off to the brig with you.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:43:47pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

And yet I saw a stupid Hugh Hewitt op-ed where Clueless Hugh suggests that Trump may be playing the Russians. Uh no, Hugh, he’s their puppet.

How are people this stupid allowed to live. Seriously.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:44:37pm
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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:48:23pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Oh, I see let’s have Benghazi investigations galore but we don’t want to investigate this. Oh and we’re going to roll back sanctions on them too. God, it couldn’t be anymore obvious that these guys are Russia’s puppets.

That’s novel. I’m pretty sure that there will be more investigations of Sec’y Clinton, because “fiscal conservatism” and “E-mails.”

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:54:25pm

Embassy attacks under President Geo. W. Bush:

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:54:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:54:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:55:25pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

And that’s why Obamas recent actions were practically worthless.

Trump will probably invite those deported Russians right back in.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2017 • 3:56:23pm

Three of the nominations are not terrible - Nikki Haley, General Mattis, and Dan Coats. I wonder how how they feel about Trump’s ties to the Russians.

Friends/family who did not vote for Hillary made the Hugh Hewitt argument to me over the past few weeks: Trump is playing the Russians; he’s not their tool. I shake my head in amazement at their delusions.

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allegro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:01:10pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s why Obamas recent actions were practically worthless.

Trump will probably invite those deported Russians right back in.

Not worthless at all. When Trump reverses it he owns it completely and without any doubt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:03:44pm

heh

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Timothy Watson  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:04:53pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s why Obamas recent actions were practically worthless.

Trump will probably invite those deported Russians right back in.

He probably wants Anna Chapman as one of his harem.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:05:06pm

re: #49 Anymouse

That’s novel. I’m pretty sure that there will be more investigations of Sec’y Clinton, because “fiscal conservatism” and “E-mails.”

Safe bet: Jason Chaffetz promises more email investigations, per Raw Story.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:07:58pm

ExxonMobil did business under Rex Tillerson with Iran while sanctions against Iran were in place.

usatoday.com

ExxonMobil did business with Iran, Syria and Sudan through a European subsidiary while President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of State was a top executive of the oil giant and those countries were under U.S. sanctions as state sponsors of terrorism, Securities and Exchange Commission filings show.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:14:00pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Women don’t want to go for fear they’ll be assaulted.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:14:13pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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He lies about everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:18:38pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:19:26pm

re: #6 Eigth Immortal

This is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen on LGF.

It’s only going to get worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:20:29pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:22:01pm

I guess this is an “older” article.
Reid: DNC was ‘worthless’ under Wasserman Schultz

Outgoing Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid tore into the Democratic National Committee (DNC), calling it a “worthless” organization that doesn’t do enough to help state parties.

“I believe one of the failures of Democratic Party has been the Democratic National Committee, the DNC, has been worthless,” Reid told Nevada Public Radio in an interview published Wednesday.

“They do nothing to help state parties. That should be the main goal they have. I developed everything in Nevada on my own. Their help was relatively meaningless.”

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:22:21pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s why Obamas recent actions were practically worthless.

Trump will probably invite those deported Russians right back in.

And provide them with additional names of his “enemies” in the press and others who publicly oppose him. After all, they did such a bang-up job for the Trump campaign before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:22:54pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:23:05pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d drink to Nyet! I hope he’s back around soon.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:24:19pm

re: #50 Anymouse

Facts schmacts. Can you say BENGHAZI?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:25:07pm

re: #6 Eigth Immortal

This is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen on LGF.

The ad for Arby’s or the fact that troll CCJ is advising our new President?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:25:28pm
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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:26:27pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flip-flopper.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:26:33pm

re: #12 Frankie Five Angels

I had no idea that advising people on floor shitting had a place in the White House.

Yeah. The rotunda is in the Capitol building!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:26:36pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotcha. I would love for that response to stick to him no matter what.

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whitebeach  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:27:06pm

Look, take it from a Louisiana boy: A swamp is a place where you can paddle your canoe or kayak or drive your bass boat, observing beautiful scenery and wildlife, and if you have the notion and the skill, catching enough fish for a fry for your family and friends.

As we are learning now, a “drained swamp” is a place of incredible mud and slime, inhospitable to beauty and even life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:27:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:30:16pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:32:42pm

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:33:00pm

Because Ryan is a giant pussy who is afraid of the political ramifications.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:33:26pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him for anything relating to the WH? Really pathetic to see this little asshole rewarded for years of being a total asshole.

Banging the boss’s daughter?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:34:10pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:34:16pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Republicans want to repeal Obamacare ASAP because otherwise new taxes that are a part of that law will take effect on the rich.

These things have to be spelled out.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:34:25pm

re: #50 Anymouse

Yeah, but none of those people were white. They don’t count. Well sometimes they count, like when the deaths can be used as a club against Liberals.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:35:08pm

re: #81 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:36:02pm

re: #83 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, but none of those people were white. They don’t count. Well sometimes they count, like when the deaths can be used as a club against Liberals.

Actually, a bunch of them were, though that shouldn’t make any difference. Investigations into the death of Ambassador David Foy: Zero.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:37:21pm

Hey conservascum, Where is the fucking replacement you promised ????

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:37:53pm

re: #86 Amory Blaine

Hey conservascum, Where is the fucking replacement you promised ????

The replacement, of course, is “The same shit we had previously”.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:37:54pm

Wow…just saw this post from a fb friend…what the hell is going on in this country?

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:38:03pm

So far I’ve found four, but I only looked for one minute.

Donald Trump has named his campaign manager Steve Bannon who has … as his senior White House adviser.

Trump taps campaign aide Stephen Miller as senior adviser

Trump Senior Advisor (KellyAnne Conway) Begs CNN Host To Look Into Trump’s ‘Heart’ Instead Of His Words

and, of course

Trump names son-in-law Jared Kushner as senior adviser

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:38:12pm

re: #75 whitebeach

Look, take it from a Louisiana boy: A swamp is a place where you can paddle your canoe or kayak or drive your bass boat, observing beautiful scenery and wildlife, and if you have the notion and the skill, catching enough fish for a fry for your family and friends.

As we are learning now, a “drained swamp” is a place of incredible mud and slime, inhospitable to beauty and even life.

“Drained swamp” is much too favorable a description of Trump’s administration.

“Cesspit of Satan” is more like it.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:38:12pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:39:49pm

Thanks Charles, for having the foresight to keep up on CCJ.

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:40:52pm

Oops, here’s another one.

Trump Senior Advisor A.J. Delgado is seriously regretting ever stepping foot on MSNBC host Tamron Hall’s show.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:40:54pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

I’d drink to Nyet! I hope he’s back around soon.

I’ve been wondering where Sergey has been lately.

He seems to have disappeared once more came out confirming Russian hacking.

Hmmmm… /

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:42:21pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m guessing even George Wallace wouldn’t have been this bad as President-Elect. At least Gov. Wallace understood how government works, and he recanted his racist positions later and publicly apologised for them.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:45:45pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is truly pathetic

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Does Ronnie’s autograph say ‘Reagan Reagan,’ or is it just me?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:46:09pm

re: #96 makeitstop

Does Ronnie’s autograph say ‘Reagan Reagan,’ or is it just me?

it says that

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:46:19pm
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SteveMcG RN  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:46:30pm

re: #86 Amory Blaine

They’re probably dusting off Hilary Clinton’s 1993 plan.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:46:39pm

re: #95 Anymouse

I’m guessing even George Wallace wouldn’t have been this bad as President-Elect. At least Gov. Wallace understood how government works, and he recanted his racist positions later and publicly apologised for them.

The only past president or serious presidential candidate that I can think of who is clearly worse than Trump is Pat Buchanan. Never before has such garbage gone to the White House.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:46:41pm

re: #96 makeitstop

Does Ronnie’s autograph say ‘Reagan Reagan,’ or is it just me?

He was already losing it by then, the old drooler.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:47:10pm

re: #96 makeitstop

Does Ronnie’s autograph say ‘Reagan Reagan,’ or is it just me?

It sure looks like it does. Perhaps President Reagan got lost halfway through his signature? (I’ve done that.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:47:32pm

re: #96 makeitstop

Does Ronnie’s autograph say ‘Reagan Reagan,’ or is it just me?

That’s what it says. It’s really odd. Makes you wonder if it’s a sign of the oncoming Alzheimers.

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:48:01pm

re: #102 Anymouse

I’ve done that to when I had to sign 30 odd paychecks.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:48:20pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

The only past president or serious presidential candidate that I can think of who is clearly worse than Trump is Pat Buchanan. Never before has such garbage gone to the White House.

I can think of one worse than Pat Buchanan: Rev. Pat Robertson.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:48:28pm

re: #99 SteveMcG RN

They’re probably dusting off Hilary Clinton’s 1993 plan.

Not a chance in hell of that. The Republican health care plan remains this:

1) Don’t get sick.

2) If you do get sick (you wretched sinner), die quickly.

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:48:35pm

re: #95 Anymouse

We’re heading into the perfect shit storm, something I don’t think has ever happened before in this country. We will be fed an endless series of lies, fake news, trivial distractions to keep everybody off balance while the media does zero research and just reports whatever someone from the WH says.

We won’t even know how fucked we are until weeks or months later, then the TrumpTeam will appear to deny everything.

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

So that’s three senior advisers. I wonder who is the senior senior adviser?

Probably Jared, who I’m sure Trump sees as himself at that age. Banging his daughter is just the icing on the cake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:48:51pm

re: #104 SteveMcG RN

I’ve done that to when I had to sign 30 odd paychecks.

Not me, and I’ve had to sign >100 pages of notebooks at a time.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:49:30pm

re: #105 Anymouse

I can think of one worse than Pat Buchanan: Rev. Pat Robertson.

Buchanan won the NH GOP primary in 1996. Robertson is worse, but never won a primary as far as I know.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:49:34pm

Meryl Streep. She’s so self-centered and elitist.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:50:05pm

52 years ago. These British looking chaps were actually from Turtle Creek, Pennsylvania:

The Vogues - Five O’clock World

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:52:40pm
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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:53:11pm

re: #110 GlutenFreeJesus

Meryl Streep. She’s so self-centered and elitist.

But she didn’t support the “Reëlect Conservatives Fund” (Pam Bondi, Greg Abbot, &c) that the Trump Foundation apparently did.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:53:33pm

re: #107 Skip Intro

We’re heading into the perfect shit storm, something I don’t think has ever happened before in this country. We will be fed an endless series of lies, fake news, trivial distractions to keep everybody off balance while the media does zero research and just reports whatever someone from the WH says.

We won’t even know how fucked we are until weeks or months later, then the TrumpTeam will appear to deny everything.

So that’s three senior advisers. I wonder who is the senior senior adviser?

Probably Jared, who I’m sure Trump sees as himself at that age. Banging his daughter is just the icing on the cake.

But the taxes I’ll have to pay after I win the lottery jackpot will go down, so it’s all good.

Truly a pitiful way for the US to (possibly) end.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:53:38pm

re: #99 SteveMcG RN

They’re probably dusting off Hilary Clinton’s 1993 plan.

Somebody pointed out that if you decide that insurance can’t be denied because of preexisting conditions, the rest of the ACA largely follows automatically. Assuming for a moment that they DON’T just repeal the thing and leave everyone out in the cold, anything they do ends up being pretty much the same. That’s why they’ve never come up with a replacement - because unless you’re going to go back to what we had, or forward to Single Payer, you pretty much end up with the same thing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:54:25pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

Not a chance in hell of that. The Republican health care plan remains this:

1) Don’t get sick.

2) If you do get sick (you wretched sinner), die quickly.

That sounds exactly right. Isn’t that the Ben Shapiro proposal?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:55:47pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

That sounds exactly right. Isn’t that the Ben Shapiro proposal?

That and NO SOFA FOR YOU

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:56:34pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

Somebody pointed out that if you decide that insurance can’t be denied because of preexisting conditions, the rest of the ACA largely follows automatically. Assuming for a moment that they DON’T just repeal the thing and leave everyone out in the cold, anything they do ends up being pretty much the same. That’s why they’ve never come up with a replacement - because unless you’re going to go back to what we had, or forward to Single Payer, you pretty much end up with the same thing.

The ACA is the Republican health care plan of the 90s. The 21st century GOP health care plan is for the poor to die. Very simple.

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:57:27pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

That sounds exactly right. Isn’t that the Ben Shapiro proposal?

His plan was to marry someone who has employer paid health care and use that. Ben would freak out if he had to go it alone in the pre ACA insurance market.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:57:39pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

The ACA is the Republican health care plan of the 90s. The 21st century GOP health care plan is for the poor to die. Very simple.

And the elderly, and military veterans and their families… .

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:59:47pm

re: #120 Anymouse

And the elderly, and military veterans and their families… .

I expect a formal GOP definition of “useless mouths” to come in the next few years. That really would be the first step to full fascism.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 4:59:54pm

I have to bail out for now; I have to get ready for my board meeting in an hour. Catch y’all later… .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:00:09pm

re: #119 Skip Intro

His plan was to marry someone who has employer paid health care and use that. Ben would freak out if he had to go it alone in the pre ACA insurance market.

Hey, that’s the same plan Rage Furby used!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:00:35pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:01:05pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

That sounds exactly right. Isn’t that the Ben Shapiro proposal?

Yeah, that’s the one where, if you can’t afford care, you should buy a couch, or something…
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BTW, I notice you don’t hear the old Conservative line about “Healthcare is not a right” as much these days. Instead you hear, “Every one has access to healthcare! You can go the Emergency Room!”

I suspect this will be the dividing line - hardcore ‘FY,IGM’ Conservatives will hold out for full repeal and some stupid shit like MSAs that only work for people who already have money, while the ones who want to get reelected willcoalesce around something that looks a lot like Obamacare, but without the scary black guy’s name.

If they had been smart, they’d never have hung the ‘Obamacare’ moniker on it. It would make it easier to simply make a few changes and declare victory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:03:48pm
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SteveMcG RN  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:11:32pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

My recollection of pre-Obamacare days are influenced by my experience of A. Having a wife who is a doctor and B. providing benefits to my employees.
Regarding the former, through the 90s ant 00s fewer patients had good insurance and our income came increasingly from patients’ pockets instead of insurance companies. Regarding the latter, premiums kept going up and up. The group plan we had in 1995 had tripled in price by about 2005, when we finally had to change to an HMO. Never had my employees pay a dime, we were too small to have options where certain employees paid for an upgrade or different plan. We all had the same coverage.
It was clear for a long time that the system was unsustainable. Not enough healthier, younger people paid for expensive plans.

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worldknot  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:12:46pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

Buchanan won the NH GOP primary in 1996. Robertson is worse, but never won a primary as far as I know.

I didn’t think so either, but it turns out Robertson won four: WA, NV, AK, and HI

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CriticalDragon1177  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:13:35pm

Charles Johnson,

Another unpleasant, non surprise for the new year. 2017 is already off to a shameful start. Hopefully the Democrats will be strong enough to make Chucky’s efforts futile and every extremist that comes up for the senate to nominate is filibustered.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:18:55pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mutiny!

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:19:14pm

re: #129 CriticalDragon1177

Chucky’s the symptom. The problem is billionaires like Peter Thiel who use their money to destroy the country that made them rich.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:20:02pm

So bit-a-turd lady joined MSNBC along with Megyn the bigot. The normalization of Donald Trump is in full swing. Too bad a black president didn’t warrant this kind of courtesy from the liberal media.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:20:40pm

I know not everyone is into the sportsball, but I’m going to sit back, relax, and go information overload on this game.

Yaaa Sports
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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:21:47pm

re: #128 worldknot

I didn’t think so either, but it turns out Robertson won four: WA, NV, AK, and HI

These 4 wins for Robertson were all in caucuses, apparently. Caucuses are a bad way to pick candidates. A room full of swivel-eyed loons can lead to results like this.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:23:03pm

re: #133 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

GO CLEMSON

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:23:33pm

POOR OLD JOE

This is the truth that people will learn when the system is dismantled:

Joe Republican gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills.
Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans.

The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good.

He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

Poor old Joe.

Posted on Facebook by some Liberal Commie.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:24:03pm

re: #107 Skip Intro

We’re heading into the perfect shit storm, something I don’t think has ever happened before in this country. We will be fed an endless series of lies, fake news, trivial distractions to keep everybody off balance while the media does zero research and just reports whatever someone from the WH says.

We won’t even know how fucked we are until weeks or months later, then the TrumpTeam will appear to deny everything.

So that’s three senior advisers. I wonder who is the senior senior adviser?

Probably Jared, who I’m sure Trump sees as himself at that age. Banging his daughter is just the icing on the cake.

I agree that we’re heading into an ‘unpresidented’ shitstorm, but I’ll put in a word for the reporting that the WaPo is doing. They’ve got some really gaud-awful opinion writers, but they’re bearing down on as much of the news as they can cover. It is kind of like trying to bail out a boat in a hurricane, but they’ve been pretty good.

All of the news is just getting hard to read. This is going to be so bad. I’m feeling pretty helpless this week.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:25:04pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

GO CLEMSON

Hard for a Gator to like the Tide eh…

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:26:28pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel

I roadied for a band that did a nice cover of that song.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:26:28pm

re: #137 stpaulbear

I agree that we’re heading into an ‘unpresidented’ shitstorm, but I’ll put in a word for the reporting that the WaPo is doing. They’ve got some really gaud-awful opinion writers, but they’re bearing down on as much of the news as they can cover. It is kind of like trying to bail out a boat in a hurricane, but they’ve been pretty good.

All of the news is just getting hard to read. This is going to be so bad. I’m feeling pretty helpless this week.

Aviation has the perfect term for US politics between now and Jan 20: “controlled descent into terrain.”

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:27:21pm

re: #81 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, don’t.

Follow these rules. How many times do I have to post this for you?

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:30:34pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

GO CLEMSON

Bama better be careful…the ref has guns.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:30:36pm

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:31:26pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

I know you’re not supposed to analyze inspirational messages like this, but Truth and Kindness cannot simultaneously apply to comments on Trump or Republicans.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:33:14pm

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

I’d like to see that entire message written out on the walls of the House and Senate chambers by a finger of fire on Jan 20.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:34:03pm

re: #144 EPR-radar

I know you’re not supposed to analyze inspirational messages like this, but Truth and Kindness cannot simultaneously apply to comments on Trump or Republicans.

What folks say doesn’t have to adhere to every single one of those points. Yes it’s true, Fuckface Von Clownstick is a threat to civilization. Yes, it’s necessary to say that Fuckface Von Clownstick is a threat to civilization. See?

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:34:24pm

This guy likes to sing about food more than Weird Al

Bo Carter - Banana In Your Fruit Basket


Is this a single entendre?

Bo Carter - Please Warm My Weiner

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:34:32pm

re: #142 darthstar

Bama better be careful…the ref has guns.

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There appears to be a banana peel on the field. They better be careful, or someone will slip on it, with ensuing hilarity.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:35:23pm

I forgot that this place can be rather pedantic sometimes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:36:00pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

I forgot that this place can be rather pedantic sometimes.

Well, actually…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:37:26pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

I forgot that this place can be rather pedantic sometimes.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:38:14pm

re: #139 Jebediah, RBG

I roadied for a band that did a nice cover of that song.

That was one of the songs that I sang lead on in an oldies cover band. It’s hard to drum and yodel at the same time.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:40:12pm

re: #152 stpaulbear

That was one of the songs that I sang lead on in an oldies cover band. It’s hard to drum and yodel at the same time.

Hard to hold a long pitch and drum at the same time!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:40:26pm

re: #152 stpaulbear

I would think so!
In our case, the drummer didn’t have to do any singing, so probably considerably easier.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:40:43pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

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And this is why I’m cynical. I honestly feel a little bad for the guy for being so poorly informed.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:42:59pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:43:14pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:43:23pm

Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice found this:

Antideficiency Act

This act prohibits federal agencies from obligations or expending federal funds in advance or in excess of an appropriation, and from accepting voluntary services.

The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal employees from
making or authorizing an expenditure from, or creating or authorizing an obligation under, any appropriation or fund in excess of the amount available in the appropriation or fund unless authorized by law. 31 U.S.C. § 1341(a)(1)(A).
involving the government in any obligation to pay money before funds have been appropriated for that purpose, unless otherwise allowed by law. 31 U.S.C. § 1341(a)(1)(B).
accepting voluntary services for the United States, or employing personal services not authorized by law, except in cases of emergency involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. 31 U.S.C. § 1342.
making obligations or expenditures in excess of an apportionment or reapportionment, or in excess of the amount permitted by agency regulations. 31 U.S.C. § 1517(a).

Federal employees who violate the Antideficiency Act are subject to two types of sanctions: administrative and penal. Employees may be subject to appropriate administrative discipline including, when circumstances warrant, suspension from duty without pay or removal from office. In addition, employees may also be subject to fines, imprisonment, or both.

Trump can’t accept Kushner’s helper without paying him.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:43:40pm

Yesterday I made french onion soup. Today, I fired 5# chicken wings and homemade blue cheese dip. Pineapple bbq for the wimps, hot wings for the heroes. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:43:49pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

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I really like Booker. I can see myself supporting him in four years if he runs and I hope he does.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:44:26pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

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You asked…here’s the money shot.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:44:37pm

Trump just dismissed the people in charge of maintaining our nuclear arsenal.

gizmodo.com

Between the Trump transition team’s infighting, incompetence, and high-profile resignations, any decisions that signaled even a modicum of stability for the country would come as a relief at this point. Unfortunately, the nascent Trump Administration isn’t inclined to calm anyone’s nerves. According to an official within the Department of Energy, this past Friday, the President-elect’s team instructed the head of the National Nuclear Security Administration and his deputy to clean out their desks when Trump takes office on January 20th.

The NNSA is the $12 billion-a-year agency that “maintains and enhances the safety, security, and effectiveness of the U.S. nuclear weapons stockpile.” It’s unclear when the two officials will be replaced.

It is usual for the incoming President to maintain those positions from the previous administration; President Obama did not replace President Bush’s appointees until his second term.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:47:18pm

re: #164 Anymouse

Trump just dismissed the people in charge of maintaining our nuclear arsenal.

gizmodo.com

It is usual for the incoming President to maintain those positions from the previous administration; President Obama did not replace President Bush’s appointees until his second term.

We are so, so fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:47:22pm

re: #163 darthstar

You asked…here’s the money shot.

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I don’t know if I should laugh or cry seeing that. Man, these people.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:48:06pm

re: #164 Anymouse

Trump just dismissed the people in charge of maintaining our nuclear arsenal.

gizmodo.com

It is usual for the incoming President to maintain those positions from the previous administration; President Obama did not replace President Bush’s appointees until his second term.

It’s pathetic behavior. Whereas how he handled that longtime inauguration announcer was merely classless, this is dangerous.

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:48:27pm

Call out the instigators
Because there’s something in the air
We’ve got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
And you know that it’s right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

Thunderclap Newman Something In The Air (vintage pop)

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:51:54pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:53:43pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:54:49pm

re: #154 retired cynic

Hard to hold a long pitch and drum at the same time!

Yep. Another song that I got assigned in a different band was ‘Still The Same’ by Bob Seeger. I was never better than awful with that song. Lots of long notes. It makes me cringe to remember it.

I loved singing backup harmonies. That was fun and I was good at finding the missing notes, but I was pretty bad at lead vocals. Well, I was OK on stuff like ‘California Sun’ by the Rivieras.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:55:04pm

The Gloaming - The Sailor’s Bonnet
Really enjoy this especially on a cold night like tonight.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 5:57:03pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

It’s pathetic behavior. Whereas how he handled that longtime inauguration announcer was merely classless, this is dangerous.

I always want to say something to people like this along the lines of, “If my virtual dick was as big as yours I’d fuck myself too.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:01:21pm

oooh…John Lewis will also testify:

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:03:12pm

re: #168 gocart mozart

Call out the instigators
Because there’s something in the air
We’ve got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
And you know that it’s right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

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Video

Did you know that Pete Townsend played bass and produced that song?

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:03:59pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

oooh…John Lewis will also testify:

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I hope they ride Sessions hard. So hard it moves his bigoted ass right out of the AG office and back to his sweet home Alabama.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:06:14pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

oooh…John Lewis will also testify:

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Excellent.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:06:33pm
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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:07:13pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

I hope they ride Sessions hard. So hard it moves his bigoted ass right out of the AG office and back to his sweet home Alabama.

I’m afraid that won’t happen. You might get a Republican or two to vote against an outsider, but not against one of their own on the Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:07:41pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

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Cory Booker (D - NJ)

Really throws a wrench into the bs that the right has tried saying that Sessions “isn’t really a racist.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:08:10pm

re: #181 retired cynic

I’m afraid that won’t happen. You might get a Republican or two to vote against an outsider, but not against one of their own on the Senate.

Maybe if his name was Ted Cruz but then again.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:09:45pm

re: #134 EPR-radar

A room full of swivel-eyed loons can lead to results like this.

Ah, so you’ve met Washington State Republican caucus voters then…

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:10:29pm

re: #164 Anymouse

Oooohh. I like this guy:

500 Days of Kitten Calamari
Ashley Feinberg
1/09/17 12:05pm

Oh fucking fuck me. Fuck this. Fuck Trump. Fuck anyone who voted for him. I don’t give a shit if you like to hear it, Trump voters. You just steered our country directly toward the pits of hell, and if your feelings are hurt by me telling you that, good. Maybe you will think next time you vote instead of pulling the lever for someone you knew full well is an incompetent moron and tried to convince yourself - and are probably still trying to convince yourself - isn’t.

Change your stupid ass MAGA hat for a nice shitstain brown Let’s Fuck It Up 2016 one.

But you know what? Fuck every spineless milquetoast Republican politician who is bending over and taking it up the shit chute for this asshole, and triple fuck anyone in their electorate who doesn’t see every last one of them, Tea Party or otherwise, for the cretinous leeches swinging from lobbyist tits that they are. Fuuuuuck.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:10:34pm

FBW, I trust Mrs. FBW returned safely (and without too much hassle)?

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:11:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:15:45pm

re: #176 stpaulbear

When the record came out, more than a few people thought Thunderclap Newman WAS Pete Townsend.

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:16:19pm

Found this and the song sounded familiar

Creation - Painter Man 1967


it reminds me of this

Who - I’m a Boy 1967

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:18:22pm

This live Bernie “town hall” on CNN is really bringing back a lot of memories of all of the other times cable news gave a primary candidate who never came close to the nomination an hour of television.

I mean, who could forget the raucous hour with Rick Santorum 4 years ago?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:19:57pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:20:04pm

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:20:59pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:23:27pm

You guys and gals see this crap? It just seems to get better every day……

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:23:38pm

This is the grooviest thing ever

Mirror - Gingerbread Man

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:25:08pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:25:49pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

Well, technically, we’re persnickety.

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:27:44pm

..

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unproven innocence  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:27:57pm

re: #194 Dave In Austin

You guys and gals see this crap? It just seems to get better every day……

First Amendment, free press, informed electorate. Don’t need those. I’m very smart.
— The Swamp Thing

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:28:50pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:30:38pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

And this is why I’m cynical. I honestly feel a little bad for the guy for being so poorly informed.

I don’t. If you’re so ignorant that you’ll shoot yourself in the dick because someone told you it’d make Obama cry, that’s willful. You chose to be that way.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:31:18pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

France had their own version of Project Blue Book.

Not sure of their investigation method, but they found 22% to be unexplainable.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:32:41pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Five GOP senators offer an amendment to extend the Obamacare repeal reconciliation deadline by more than a MONTH.

And with the complexity of the “replacement” combined with the politics of repeal, a month is about as useful as ten minutes.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:33:34pm

But this afternoon, Johnson told Gideon Resnick, a reporter for the Daily Beast, that “most of the Forbes story is false.” Even by Trump standards, Johnson’s history is pretty toxic. As mentioned before, he was also Twitter’s first high-profile permanent ban, a dubious honor he earned for soliciting people to “take out” Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:33:58pm

re: #203 Ziggy_TARDIS

France had their own version of Project Blue Book.

Not sure of their investigation method, but they found 22% to be unexplainable.

Unexplainable /= Aliens

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:34:24pm

re: #184 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Ah, so you’ve met Washington State Republican caucus voters then…

I haven’t had the misfortune to meet any caucus voters, I just judge them by the results they produce and reports of their activities.

It usually seems like an exercise in most effectively harnessing the madness of crowds to achieve the desired results (kind of like Trump-Pence 2016).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:34:46pm
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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:35:11pm

re: #205 Amory Blaine

“high profile”? They have a different meaning for that than I do.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:35:49pm

re: #181 retired cynic

I’m afraid that won’t happen. You might get a Republican or two to vote against an outsider, but not against one of their own on the Senate.

I’m not saying there is a great chance, but if pressure can be built in areas that it affects the right Republicans, maybe they go against Sessions for their own political lives.

I would look to pressure the states that are above the Mason-Dixon line with one or two Republican Senators. Say a Rob Portman in Ohio. He is pretty bendable, and this state is a purple state so his job isn’t set in stone like a southern state.

Make enough stink on Sessions being a bigot and it might cause Senators to back off him as a candidate. There might be a lot of bigots/racists, but it is pretty hard to get yourself labeled a bigot lover in today’s politics and not have it come back at you.

Congress’ overall rating is weak. People of color are getting more and more angry and growing in numbers. It is still politics. Numbers count and saving your seat might be a lot easier to do than putting a known bigot into a job like AG.

And, I like to have something political to dream about since overall it is looking pretty nightmarish!

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:35:56pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aww, snork!

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:35:56pm

re: #209 retired cynic

They also call him a journalist further up the article.

*shudder

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scottslemmons  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:36:25pm

re: #194 Dave In Austin

You guys and gals see this crap? It just seems to get better every day……

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If we had a less cowering press, this would make every newsroom in the country start sharpening their knives for the bloodbath.

Unfortunately, it just means the media will kowtow harder than ever. :/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:37:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:37:47pm

re: #205 Amory Blaine

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:38:02pm

When The Huffington Post asked Inhofe on Monday night if this same standard of disclosing foreign payments should apply to Trump’s Cabinet nominees, he said it shouldn’t.

“So it’s different now because it’s Trump?” we asked.

“That’s just right,” Inhofe said.

“That’s right?” we asked to clarify.

“Yeah,” he said.

A spokeswoman later tried to walk back Inhofe’s answers. “Of course we don’t believe there’s a double standard when it comes to President-elect Trump’s Cabinet picks,” said Daisy Letendre, Inhofe’s communications director. Inhofe, it seems, had made the great political mistake of telling the truth, but you can listen to the exchange ― complete with guffaws from surrounding reporters surprised by his honesty ― here.

They have audio of Inhofe…

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unproven innocence  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:40:39pm

re: #204 jaunte

And with the complexity of the “replacement” combined with the politics of repeal, a month is about as useful as ten minutes.

Hillary was so super secretive when she was formulating plans for national health care reform. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:41:28pm

OT but has anybody used Print Gaze or has anyone even heard of them? This stuff is just too awesome looking…

printgaze.com

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:41:35pm

I’m ignoring Bernie. Focus on Trump and Republicans. Let Bernie be Bernie at this point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:41:43pm

Beethoven Egmont Overture Bernstein Vienna Philharmonic
At about the 3:16 mark Leonard Bernstein jumps up and down on the podium. He’s really into this piece.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:41:45pm

re: #206 Feline Fearless Leader

Very True.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:42:11pm

You don’t want to know what happens when a rage furby shits on the floor before midnight. Terrifying.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:42:31pm
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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:43:14pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

fake?

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:44:01pm

re: #225 retired cynic

fake?

Duh. But maybe not for long.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:44:41pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

Duh. But maybe not for long.

I’d just about believe anything now.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:45:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:46:51pm

That last tweet was a reply to this…

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:48:59pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:50:02pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

but maybe he is. from what I’ve seen which isn’t everything he isn’t. I dunno.

A remarkably troll-like turn of phrase.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:50:11pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:50:21pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Go to his profile, look at the Pinned Tweet.

He is full blown racist himself.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:51:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:51:57pm

re: #231 jaunte

A remarkably troll-like turn of phrase.

Exactly what I thought.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:53:36pm

re: #233 Ziggy_TARDIS

Go to his profile, look at the Pinned Tweet.

He is full blown racist himself.

He’s not exactly a Trump supporter.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:54:04pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lol!! That’s exactly how I feel. **sucks teeth in frustration**

Sanders really needs to hear from an unrepentant racist? Seriously?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:54:08pm

What pissed off the trumpbots so much was the truth.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:55:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:56:38pm

re: #186 Resistance Is Not Futile

FBW, I trust Mrs. FBW returned safely (and without too much hassle)?

Yeah, but instead of arriving at 9:44 PM, she arrived at 1 in the morning!!! Poor darling had to sit in Fort Lauderdale Airport for 5 goddam hours!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:56:45pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Someone at least throw the poor soul a head of iceberg lettuce.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 6:59:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:01:38pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

What type of disorder is this?

Bad protoplasm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:02:32pm

re: #241 Barefoot Grin

Someone at least throw the poor soul a head of iceberg lettuce.

I’d rather throw him ahead of a speeding locomotive.
//

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:02:53pm

Reporters found McConnell in the Capitol cafeteria.

Imgur

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:02:55pm

re: #220 Jenner7

I’m ignoring Bernie. Focus on Trump and Republicans. Let Bernie be Bernie at this point.

I’d like to ignore Bernie. But he keeps doing some dumb things in my opinion. And if what he does hurts the Democratic Left/progressives it is hard to do. A lot of people of color already questioned him. This is why. He seems to have soft spots in his thinking that just make you go, WTF are you thinking? But…Bernie.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:03:33pm
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unproven innocence  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:03:34pm

re: #194 Dave In Austin

You guys and gals see this crap? It just seems to get better every day……

Sounds like a proposal for Reichstag Fireside Chats.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:03:42pm

Remember the good ole days when this would sink someone’s career?

We’ll see.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:04:11pm

re: #245 Amory Blaine

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:05:10pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

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Morningside Poison.

Instead of bacon.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:06:33pm

re: #251 Stanley Sea

Tweet that to him!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:08:03pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

Remember the good ole days when this would sink someone’s career?

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We’ll see.

Just call her FLOTUS speechwriter and pay her….a million a year?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:08:58pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:11:03pm

re: #254 jaunte

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Was “no socks” there?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:11:55pm

heh

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Timothy Watson  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:13:31pm
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JasonA  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:13:34pm

Heh.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:14:01pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Elitist alert! Elitist alert! Intellectual attempting to penetrate shields!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:14:21pm

re: #254 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:14:54pm

Good one, Scott! I had to look that up.

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EPR-radar  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:16:05pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

“A real president”. Hardly.

To put it charitably, Trump is an ambulating pile of pig shit that will become president of the US because of decades of GOP propaganda feeding the delusions and bigotry of the GOP base, combined with too many other voters incapable of distinguishing between a normal politician (i.e., Clinton) and said ambulating pile of pig shit.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:19:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:20:09pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

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Okay that’s just complete bullshit.

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JasonA  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:22:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:22:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:24:12pm

re: #265 JasonA

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A friend told me that Amtrak is preparing more trains. For the protesters.

It’s going to be glorious.

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scottslemmons  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:24:27pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

Good one, Scott! I had to look that up.

[Embedded content]

Thank you! It was either that or Aspen Satellite Death-Laser. :)

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:26:47pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:27:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:28:32pm

re: #269 Jenner7

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:30:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:30:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:37:36pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

53rd Avenue Improvised Mortar

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:38:38pm

I mean, even Kim Jong-un has a warmer smile than Fuckface Von Clownstick.

Look at his fucking smile. What a malevolent demon he is!

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:39:21pm

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

Dude, tweet that to him, he’ll love it!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:40:33pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

80th Street Cocker Spaniel

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:40:55pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:41:41pm

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

You too Dirt Dart! Tweet that to him!

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:41:54pm

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

80th Street Cocker Spaniel

There we go! Mine has nearly cooked my goose several times!

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:42:58pm

re: #272 Unshaken Defiance

Let’s see - a floor shitting nazi vs a musician on gold and platinum albums? No problem for me keeping the man separated from the oxygen thief.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:43:41pm

re: #281 William Lewis

Let’s see - a floor shitting nazi vs a musician on gold and platinum albums? No problem for me keeping the man separated from the oxygen thief.

Oxygen thief is good. I like waste of atoms.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:45:45pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

Oxygen thief is good. I like waste of atoms.

It’s the Heinlein novels I read growing up showing through. In the world of “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” Rage Furby would have been thrown out of the nearest airlock.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:46:26pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:47:31pm

Edit:
Tweet was deleted, so I’ll post this one instead

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:47:36pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

That’s my friend Jordan Doll, known him since we were little kids. He’s a struggling stand-up comedian living in the L.A. area. He’s currently looking for a new agent to get some work. He has several commercials under his belt, a few Funny Or Die clips, and he’s a consummate stand-up, always working on his stuff. If any Lizards can help him out, that’d be pretty rad.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:47:44pm

re: #283 William Lewis

It’s the Heinlein novels I read growing up showing through. In the world of “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” Rage Furby would have been thrown out of the nearest airlock.

Jim Wright (Stonekettle) uses that terminology for dumping or banning someone. I was so fortunate to get on his list of Facebook friends when he first started up there, and I treasure my spot amongst the 5000!

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:50:37pm

OT: the last two times I’ve signed in to Amazon, I’ve gotten a notice that

We haven’t seen you using this device before. To help protect your account, we just want to make sure it’s really you.

I’m using the same computer that I’ve used for the last year. Am I getting this message because someone’s been trying to get into my account or because I’ve been hacked? I don’t know why I’m getting this message.

edit: I’ve just changed my password.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:52:35pm

re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but instead of arriving at 9:44 PM, she arrived at 1 in the morning!!! Poor darling had to sit in Fort Lauderdale Airport for 5 goddam hours!

Ugh. But all’s well that ends well.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:54:25pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

Webb Street Bludgeon

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:54:37pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

Dude, tweet that to him, he’ll love it!

goddamnedfrank, told ya!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:55:31pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 7:58:30pm

re: #290 Sherlock Hound

Tweet that to him!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:00:37pm

re: #292 FormerDirtDart

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She still hasn’t paid the huge fine she owes to Ohio either.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:02:42pm

UW-Madison faculty challenge DNR climate change revisions

A group of UW-Madison professors criticized the state Department of Natural Resources on Monday for scrubbing its website of language that stated human activity is causing climate change, accusing the agency of ignoring facts and violating the public trust.

The Republican-controlled DNR’s revisions came last month. Instead of saying human activities that increase greenhouse gases are the main cause of climate change, the website now says that Earth’s climate is going through a change and the reasons are up for debate.

Seven UW-Madison climate, zoology and ecology professors sent an essay to media outlets Monday saying the new language incorrectly implies climate change is mysterious when it’s clearly caused by greenhouse gases produced by burning fossil fuels.

“The Wisconsin DNR has a responsibility to accurately inform the public about the challenges presented by climate change,” the scientists said. “Ignoring facts and this responsibility hobbles the state agency entrusted to manage natural resources and protect the public. It also portrays the Wisconsin state government as anti-science.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:03:05pm
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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:04:20pm

re: #288 stpaulbear

OT: the last two times I’ve signed in to Amazon, I’ve gotten a notice that

I’m using the same computer that I’ve used for the last year. Am I getting this message because someone’s been trying to get into my account or because I’ve been hacked? I don’t know why I’m getting this message.

I haven’t seen it with Amazon, but my HMO website has had that problem for years. No ramifications.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:07:01pm

re: #296 Charles Johnson

That ought to get the Twitter counter on this article above 10,000, eh?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:09:03pm

re: #288 stpaulbear

OT: the last two times I’ve signed in to Amazon, I’ve gotten a notice that

I’m using the same computer that I’ve used for the last year. Am I getting this message because someone’s been trying to get into my account or because I’ve been hacked? I don’t know why I’m getting this message.

You’ll get that message any time your cookies have been reset. I get it after every major Mac operating system update.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:09:08pm

re: #288 stpaulbear

OT: the last two times I’ve signed in to Amazon, I’ve gotten a notice that

I’m using the same computer that I’ve used for the last year. Am I getting this message because someone’s been trying to get into my account or because I’ve been hacked? I don’t know why I’m getting this message.

Nothing to worry about. They’re sending that message because they saw a login from your computer. If you get a message like that but you DIDN’T log in, then you should be concerned, because it might be a hacker trying to get into your account.

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unproven innocence  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:11:45pm

re: #288 stpaulbear

OT: the last two times I’ve signed in to Amazon, I’ve gotten a notice that

I’m using the same computer that I’ve used for the last year. Am I getting this message because someone’s been trying to get into my account or because I’ve been hacked? I don’t know why I’m getting this message.

You might want to check the DNS settings currently specified in the properties page(s) for your wifi adapter and/or ethernet adapter. Make sure they are legit. Normally (by default, that is) each internet-connected device gets this dns server info from the next device “upstream”. You can reduce your risks from dns hijacking malware by specifying manually which dns servers you prefer. Top Public Internet DNS Servers

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:13:24pm

By the way, I strongly recommend setting up two-step sign-in with Amazon. It’s the best way to protect your account. Go to Account->Login and Security Settings, then click the Edit button next to Advanced Security Settings.

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Moebym  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:16:13pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is how it should be.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:17:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:17:39pm

“Why is everything taken at face value?” she said. “You can’t give him the benefit of the doubt on this and he’s telling you what was in his heart? You always want to go by what’s come out of his mouth rather than look at what’s in his heart.”

This is where things got really weird. Ms. Conway’s quote is a glimpse into the heart of darkness that a Trump presidency portends. She wants us to swallow Mr. Trump’s reality without question. To accept only what he says now — not what he said then — over the evidence seen and heard by our own eyes and ears. She wants us overcome the dissonance by looking for the “truth” in his heart.

The truth is getting harder to see in the flickering gaslight of Mr. Trump’s America, but it’s there. Not “in his heart,” or out of his mouth, no matter how much this man and his minions say otherwise.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:20:39pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

Oh, if we could only have done this last summer. Or had Comey trip and fall down a flight of stairs before he wrote that letter…

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:21:28pm

So Today was a good day.

Today was the first day back at school for my son after leaving Residential. The first day of high school, which despite how much I utterly hated it, is still the transition that you need to get from childhood to the almost adulthood of college.

In addition it was his 15th birthday. We did cake and presents tonight and, even though he doesn’t think so, tomorrow will be just that little bit easier.

In the end, today was a blessing. I’ll take it, run like hell was chasing me & say “Amen” :)

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:24:15pm

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:24:25pm
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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:27:10pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

…and he’s not even in office yet.

(But the ACA debacle portends well for SS and Medicare. And maybe for the rest of the safety net.)

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:27:33pm

re: #305 darthstar

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One of two things are going to happen: The GOP will float a repeal vote that they allow the Dems to sink so they have an excuse for why repeal hasn’t happened or they’ll bang together a “replacement” plan that’s anything so they’ve an excuse to push forward with repeal. Why? Because they need at least a single point in the “win” column before 2018 to argue that they can be trusted with a larger majority.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:30:59pm

re: #312 Targetpractice

One of two things are going to happen: The GOP will float a repeal vote that they allow the Dems to sink so they have an excuse for why repeal hasn’t happened or they’ll bang together a “replacement” plan that’s anything so they’ve an excuse to push forward with repeal. Why? Because they need at least a single point in the “win” column before 2018 to argue that they can be trusted with a larger majority.

Republicans are inept, incompetent, and don’t think beyond the reach of their whiskey-drunk dicks. They will fail to do anything because they’re fucked in the head…unless the Democrats match them in stupidity and give them a window.

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Mattand  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:31:10pm

re: #307 retired cynic

Oh, if we could only have done this last summer. Or had Comey trip and fall down a flight of stairs before he wrote that letter…

I still marvel over the fact that the FBI basically stepped into a presidential election with the same goal as the Russian government (spoiler alert: to derail it), and most Americans are like “Eh. Behnghazi-mail False Balance Give Trump a Chance Drool Burp Fart.”

Swear to Christ in Hoboken, I have to almost daily repeat to myself “She decisively won the popular vote” in order from completely disassociating myself from this country.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:32:07pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

The answer is for us to maintain what is truth, and not let it get buried under all the sewage coming from Trump and McConnell. Challenge everyone that tries to change the meaning of words.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:33:05pm

re: #314 Mattand

I still marvel over the fact that the FBI basically stepped into a presidential election with the same goal as the Russian government (spoiler alert: to derail it), and most Americans are like “Eh. Behnghazi-mail False Balance Give Trump a Chance Drool Burp Fart.”

Swear to Christ in Hoboken, I have to almost daily repeat to myself “She decisively won the popular vote” in order from completely disassociating myself from this country.

Make a sign.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:33:54pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:38:27pm

re: #313 darthstar

Republicans are inept, incompetent, and don’t think beyond the reach of their whiskey-drunk dicks. They will fail to do anything because they’re fucked in the head…unless the Democrats match them in stupidity and give them a window.

The GOP is the class underachiever: All the effort he could be putting towards something worthwhile is put towards coming up with ever more inventive excuses. The GOP were hoping that by the time the reality of the post-ACA raised its ugly head, the vote would have come and gone, leaving them ready to capitalize on the resulting chaos to push through their half-assed (ALEC approved) “replacement.” But the cat’s out of the bag, so now they’re scrambling for a Plan B. And given their history of excuse-making, Plan B is going to be “Throw the match and then accuse the other guy of cheating.”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:39:10pm

re: #308 William Lewis

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:40:02pm

re: #314 Mattand

I still marvel over the fact that the FBI basically stepped into a presidential election with the same goal as the Russian government (spoiler alert: to derail it), and most Americans are like “Eh. Behnghazi-mail False Balance Give Trump a Chance Drool Burp Fart.”

Swear to Christ in Hoboken, I have to almost daily repeat to myself “She decisively won the popular vote” in order from completely disassociating myself from this country.

It’s a saving grace, and a real-life albatross to hang around Fuckface Von Clownstick’s neck for as long as he’s president.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:44:51pm

Goddamn.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:45:52pm

re: #321 teleskiguy

Goddamn.

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Melania used to really smile.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:46:18pm

re: #321 teleskiguy

I shouldn’t be so crude, but what the heck is holding those things up?

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[deleted]  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:47:21pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:47:41pm

re: #311 Resistance Is Not Futile

…and he’s not even in office yet.

(But the ACA debacle portends well for SS and Medicare. And maybe for the rest of the safety net.)

Maybe the dog has caught the car…

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:48:08pm

re: #323 retired cynic

Trump and Baldwin both have short muscular handlers keeping them propped in a standing position.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:48:47pm

re: #323 retired cynic

Plastic Surgery.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:48:48pm

re: #323 retired cynic

One of those underwired bustier things?

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:50:30pm

re: #322 Stanley Sea

Melania used to really smile.

That alone should scare the fuck out of people…

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whitebeach  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:50:46pm

re: #323 retired cynic

I shouldn’t be so crude, but what the heck is holding those things up?

It’s a cantilever deal.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:53:13pm

re: #324 Ziggy_TARDIS

Can NOT happen - because our constitution describes exactly what has to happen to change it. And the reality is that if we ever have a convention? The first, fourth & fifth amendments are toast. They will not survive the conservative majority that would be at such a thing because too many Democrats would be pretending it doesn’t matter.

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:54:29pm

Wow, Backpage “erotic” classified ads are gone, as of today. Why now and not years ago?

Here is a good read on the situation and the origin of Backpage as the brainchild of former alternative press heavyweights who were angry that craigslist stole their industry’s main revenue source.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:54:55pm

re: #331 William Lewis

Agree; mustn’t happen. I would love to get around the electoral college, but truthfully, we need to start competing at the local level, and do bottom up as well as top down.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:55:12pm

re: #328 Resistance Is Not Futile

One of those underwired bustier things?

That’s what I’m guessing.

re: #327 Ziggy_TARDIS

Plastic Surgery.

Not round enough.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:56:52pm

re: #324 Ziggy_TARDIS

If things can go well, the Democrats need to play the nastiest game in Hardball in US history with the single goal of getting into a position where they can singlehandedly write and promulgate a new American Constitution without Republican Input.

Preferably, either a hybrid of the French and German Constituitions, or perhaps simply a mildly Americanized copy of the German one.

Appreciate the enthusiasm, but that’s more drastic than what we need.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:57:21pm

re: #323 retired cynic

I shouldn’t be so crude, but what the heck is holding those things up?

A talented cosmetic surgeon.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:58:30pm

re: #323 retired cynic

I shouldn’t be so crude, but what the heck is holding those things up?

You’re a gal, you’re allowed to ask such questions without fear of being crude.

:)

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2017 • 8:58:49pm

re: #323 retired cynic

Think Dr. Price E. Cutzwell had anything to do with it?

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:00:23pm

re: #332 bratwurst

Wow, Backpage “erotic” classified ads are gone, as of today. Why now and not years ago?

Here is a good read on the situation and the origin of Backpage as the brainchild of former alternative press heavyweights who were angry that craigslist stole their industry’s main revenue source.

Given the usual puritanism of our nation, I’ll take the defendants side in this over the government. This is all about making themselves look good for the upcoming Ayatollah Pence administration rather than anything about helping victims.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:00:52pm

What we have to do now is offline work. Build relationships with those that have those things we need to resist well. Analog relationships. Some of us have time. Some have access to things. Some own companies that can add people or vehicles to move people.

People inside LASD and LAPD that would help us thwart ICE and IRS and FBI. Lawyers to file those endless continuances and appeals.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:01:02pm

re: #337 teleskiguy

You’re a gal, you’re allowed to ask such questions without fear of being crude.

:)

And old. At some point, we get to speak our minds without fear.

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readyfreddy815  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:01:43pm

Worse yet, Donnie has already scrubbed the Reagan Reagan signature on Twitter! They’re still covering for Reagan’s obvious brain disease while in office.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:01:54pm

Ok, no, now back for realsies.

Actually had a tech out who knew what he was doing and spent the time and effort to find a clean pair of wires to run the signal from the box to the house, which should hopefully end the daily signal dropping.

I have to write a glowing letter because he was here for like three hours starting at 5pm too.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:01:58pm

re: #324 Ziggy_TARDIS

If things can go well, the Democrats need to play the nastiest game in Hardball in US history with the single goal of getting into a position where they can singlehandedly write and promulgate a new American Constitution without Republican Input.

Preferably, either a hybrid of the French and German Constituitions, or perhaps simply a mildly Americanized copy of the German one.

I’ll settle for laws mandating nonpartisan redistricting.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:02:39pm

re: #340 Unshaken Defiance

Yep.

Oh, did you see the Halestorm vid I posted last night? New cover album (Reanimate 3.0) is out with fun stuff on it.

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[deleted]  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:05:52pm
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Alyosha  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:08:54pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

I can see no blowback whatsoever resulting from this militarily-enforced social engineering scheme.

/

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:10:04pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

Dude, NO! What the fuck?!?

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:10:24pm

re: #339 William Lewis

Given the usual puritanism of our nation, I’ll take the defendants side in this over the government. This is all about making themselves look good for the upcoming Ayatollah Pence administration rather than anything about helping victims.

No doubt that the political pressure involved is motivated much more by public image than anything else.

I generally do not have an issue with consenting adults doing as they will. However, when you run business that is known to be a tool for child trafficking (as you can read in the linked story), I am not going to shed a tear when you are “censored”.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:10:43pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

Umm, no.

You forget, dear sir, that there are millions of people that live in cities in those red states that, by and large, tend to at least lean Democrat, if not being Democratic strongholds (Nashville [where I am], Memphis, Birmingham, and Atlanta, to name a few).

The Republicans in my state already have apportioned districts to favor themselves and marginalized a huge chunk of its citizens; I’ll be damned if I’m gonna get it from the other direction too.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:10:50pm

re: #347 Alyosha

How about one person, one vote?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:10:57pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let this be the theme for the next 4 years.

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:11:05pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

That would effectively reduce the Red Areas to being effectively powerless.

Sigh.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:11:12pm

re: #347 Alyosha

I can see no blowback whatsoever resulting from this militarily-enforced social engineering scheme.

/

I mean, I’ll admit that I too have my dreams of when I get to be benevolent dictator of the world.

But I recognize that what I’m doing there.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:11:26pm

re: #351 retired cynic

How about one person, one vote?

Wow. What a concept!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:11:55pm

re: #345 William Lewis

Yep.

Oh, did you see the Halestorm vid I posted last night? New cover album (Reanimate 3.0) is out with fun stuff on it.

Nope, looking back right now.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:12:08pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

Zig, there are a lot of things in that post of yours. I’ll simply say I really think you need to consider them closely. The posse comittatus act, for example, also prevents a national police force like the Gestapo for example.

The old saying “Be careful what you wish for” is in full force here.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:12:43pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

You sound like a goddamned totalitarian putting forth such nonsense.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:13:53pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

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And that’s why Trump won. Many Americans are stupid, and thanks to Conservative media telling them they’re the smart people and Liberals are educated-stupid, they’re now both stupid and totally self-confident.

People like that guy need the guidance of their smarter friends, but since they now believe they know it all, they reject that guidance. This is playing out at a national-level.

Game over, man! We’re fucked!

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:14:21pm

re: #358 teleskiguy

You sound like a goddamned totalitarian putting forth such nonsense.

No shit…

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:14:23pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

No.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:14:29pm

re: #358 teleskiguy

You sound like a goddamned totalitarian putting forth such nonsense.

And your knee is jerking just as hard. What is it about him that you dislike so much? Or is it simply that DF isn’t here for you to whine about? Chill, dude.

Ziggy isn’t often right but that doesn’t make you any more correct.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:15:28pm

re: #362 William Lewis

And your knee is jerking just as hard. What is it about him that you dislike so much? Or is it simply that DF isn’t here for you to whine about? Chill, dude.

Uh, did you read what he wrote?

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[deleted]  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:16:41pm
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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:17:32pm

re: #362 William Lewis

And your knee is jerking just as hard. What is it about him that you dislike so much? Or is it simply that DF isn’t here for you to whine about? Chill, dude.

Uhh, what?

I’m with TSG on this one…go read PLL’s post again and tell us it isn’t completely fucked.

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Alyosha  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:17:45pm

Thread needs kitties, STAT!

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:18:16pm

re: #362 William Lewis

What I dislike about ProLifeLiberal is his shoot-at-the-hip reactions to everything that happens, he never thinks about what he’s about to say.

The Dark_Falcon comparison is ludicrous. It’s as if you think I’m actively looking for someone to antagonize. Dude.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:18:24pm

re: #346 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m deleting this comment, and if you ever post something like this at LGF again it will be the last time. This is your very last warning. I’m done.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:20:25pm

re: #364 Ziggy_TARDIS

STOP.

CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

You’re sounding like what some of us accuse the Republicans of wanting to do if they had a free hand.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:20:49pm

re: #364 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, double down on your totalitarian bullshit.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:20:59pm

re: #362 William Lewis

re: #364 Ziggy_TARDIS

But let’s remember why they were started in the first place.

The Posse Comitatus Act limits how the US can enforce Civil Rights.

As I said be careful about your unintended consequences. I know what they were doing THEN. I also can see what it prevents now. Think about that. Teleskiguy is often an ass about how he presents things - doesn’t mean he’s completely wrong any more than his argument means you’re completely wrong.

Find that place in between and you might just do this world a hell of a lot of good.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:22:06pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

I’m deleting this comment, and if you ever post something like this at LGF again it will be the last time. This is your very last warning. I’m done.

You need to edit comment #350 too. It’s got a full quote.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:22:42pm

re: #372 stpaulbear

You need to edit comment #350 too. It’s got a full quote.

Already edited.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:23:25pm

re: #371 William Lewis

Teleskiguy is often an ass about how he presents things - doesn’t mean he’s completely wrong any more than his argument means you’re completely wrong.

Thanks, asshole. And by the way, my handle is not capitalized.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:24:37pm

re: #373 TedStriker

Already edited.

OK. I needed to refresh.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:24:56pm

re: #371 William Lewis

re: #374 teleskiguy

May I call a time out for just a minute, folks?

No sense in people getting pissed at each other this late at night for no damn good reason.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:26:32pm

re: #376 TedStriker

May I call a time out for just a minute, folks?

No sense in people getting pissed at each other this late at night for no damn good reason.

Especially complete strangers. You’re right. The blood got up, taking deep breaths, OOOHM …

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:27:10pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

Especially complete strangers. You’re right. The blood got up, taking deep breaths, OOOHM …

Agreed. My apologies, sir.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:28:12pm

re: #378 William Lewis

Agreed. My apologies, sir.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:30:22pm

re: #378 William Lewis

Agreed. My apologies, sir.

I’m not prestigious enough to be called “sir” but I’ll take it. Apology accepted, sir. You deserve to be called sir as a former member of our armed forces.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:31:13pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:32:07pm

Geez, the LGF thread can be weird these days. Not quite like The Great Creationist Purge, in fact not even close to that, but still …

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:32:21pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

I’m deleting this comment, and if you ever post something like this at LGF again it will be the last time. This is your very last warning. I’m done.

And, you know what, that’d be a damn shame, because he needs a support group, people to help him out.

But, Charles, when he gets on these tears, it’s got to be hard for you, it ends up painting yet another bulls-eye on your and LGF’s backs, especially if you don’t catch it.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:32:40pm

Okay, everyone step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, and burn off that angry energy by spending the next 30 seconds trying to set Trump’s hair on fire with your mind.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:33:03pm

re: #384 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Okay, everyone step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, and burn off that angry energy by spending the next 30 seconds trying to set Trump’s hair on fire with your mind.

By our powers combined…

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:33:43pm

re: #384 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Okay, everyone step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, and burn off that angry energy by spending the next 30 seconds trying to set Trump’s hair on fire with your mind.

There’s not much hair to be set on fire, though all that product he uses should create a nice flash burn.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:34:26pm

re: #383 TedStriker

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Alyosha  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:34:36pm

re: #385 klys (maker of Silmarils)

By our powers combined…

Now I have the ‘Captain Planet’ theme stuck in my head.

Great :)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:34:40pm

re: #386 teleskiguy

There’s not much hair to be set on fire, though all that product he uses should create a nice flash burn.

Ooo, ooo, I watched the Mythbusters episode last night where they tested the stun gun + pepper spray = fireball myth.

After I downloaded VLC to my phone to transfer to my computer because I’m an idiot who forgot to install a DVD client on the desktop. First world no internet problems.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:35:17pm

re: #388 Alyosha

Now I have the ‘Captain Planet’ theme stuck in my head.

Great :)

That was, in fact, the intention.

I loved that show.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:36:28pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

I’m deleting this comment, and if you ever post something like this at LGF again it will be the last time. This is your very last warning. I’m done.

I’m glad I didn’t see it, as normally I get along well with Ziggy.

Holy crap that was a long board meeting. Drilling down for twenty minutes into why after over a month we are still on a boil water order (turns out flies from the feedlot across the street from the water tower are getting into it, and it will cost $30,000 to fix).

Got drafted into going to state water operator school.

I will now be signing village payment cheques (I guess they trust me not to run off with the money - I’m sure it’s not because I am the only liberal on the village board)

The state send the village its Emergency Management Plan for the village and the village clerk cannot read the disc on our computers, so my wife is trying right now to try to decrypt it from Fortran or Cobal or whatever else they sent it in to put in a modern format.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:36:29pm

re: #386 teleskiguy

There’s not much hair to be set on fire, though all that product he uses should create a nice flash burn.

There are all those eyebrows…

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:37:05pm

re: #383 TedStriker

And, you know what, that’d be a damn shame, because he needs a support group, people to help him out.

But, Charles, when he gets on these tears, it’s got to be hard for you, it ends up painting yet another bulls-eye on your and LGF’s backs.

I think that’s where I get going trying to protect him from himself. My son, with his Schizophrenia, can be very similar to Ziggy and I tend to knee jerk in his favor as a result. I don’t really regret this as he needs someone who’ll stand for him but, damn, it could be easier than sometimes with the things he says. OTOH, my son says equally stupid things all too often and I’ll support him with every breath I take.

Ziggy, I like you lots. Don’t ever make me too ashamed of standing up for you. K? Thx.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:38:04pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:38:15pm

Hey, didn’t some sportsball just happen? Let’s talk about that. That never creates conflict, right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:38:36pm

re: #388 Alyosha

Now I have the ‘Captain Planet’ theme stuck in my head.

Great :)

Some NSFW language

Don Cheadle is Captain Planet

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:39:08pm

re: #384 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Okay, everyone step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, and burn off that angry energy by spending the next 30 seconds trying to set Trump’s hair on fire with your mind.

re: #385 klys (maker of Silmarils)

By our powers combined…

re: #386 teleskiguy

There’s not much hair to be set on fire, though all that product he uses should create a nice flash burn.

Just think of Hair Furor instead of Joe Pesci…

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:40:50pm

re: #350 TedStriker

Umm, no.

(rest cut for brevity)

dI9rsNZcfIjSN57MIinC2/rH7PSMIMhFofly//a8M06TJJObTFwsWP5Yl6SU2umTvOXJWuuxT9Ig6Te4GHA6RxfZvuruPGWvUonSsPQbcovhtDsI2qeVkyQtUqT/5fTw2uMQFsPrCBK4YMD1cMQYPLV+Klim0HtHNZ4pfhGUx/M4ZFl8wQed0ySbVaQXwntHP2nk3RufNWd3QRWNtQJ7CDpkL30brKPjb4jfuDy0J4EmNxQ+E75ndW6BtzLhary/tLKGho2EFC3PwPvutJ9gyiZ2Q0tDHP4Vhrnrj2FVAKG3K/M6TJWiGm0zDL2c2EEe8SkEyTFrxNfXiNtwykZKvGxBYi5q/jgZgT6FSizAtXCrjrIbjEf5VcIGl8LIjFmfMNxHSDK/EuoPNP6gtzqQlPOM0exE0EIbYWOvMRmqzyL+nvpCRL5gqVSQUgN+dH3q57fan+Ir93g=

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:41:59pm

re: #397 TedStriker

I got a .gif!

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:42:24pm

re: #398 Anymouse

[Embedded content]

AkjICGE1Pnww7Tx1u7uOZ/sUNaFX/0j1GrAYz5hUGqIHONzxsZpm6bAjcLF50DL7+lhnoL6+T/tkeZ6rsnB+hQbf+1HpG4ik5+d9vOFdvMQe7cKY+nOBBg==

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:42:41pm

I step away to go make cookies and look what happens.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:43:16pm

re: #401 Amory Blaine

I step away to go make cookies and look what happens.

It’s because you didn’t bring any back for the rest of us.

Meanie.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:45:11pm

re: #399 teleskiguy

I got a .gif!

[Embedded content]

Funny we posted that; one thing that I didn’t know about that scene is they did it, not with practical effects (which would have been insanely dangerous) or CGI (not good enough at the time), but with a “Pepper’s ghost” illusion.

Just read that today…

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:45:36pm

re: #398 Anymouse

Can’t we just stick with the original lesbian farmer plan?

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:46:55pm

re: #404 Interesting Times

Can’t we just stick with the original lesbian farmer plan?

Hey, our last village clerk was a lesbian rancher. Does that count?

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:47:32pm

re: #405 Anymouse

Hey, our last village clerk was a lesbian rancher. Does that count?

Rancher, farmer…whatever!

/Mel Brooks

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:49:02pm

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:50:58pm

re: #380 teleskiguy

I’m not prestigious enough to be called “sir” but I’ll take it. Apology accepted, sir. You deserve to be called sir as a former member of our armed forces.

Just noticed this.

The title “Sir”.

This is an honorific due any free man. It says you are able to stand up for yourself and for others unable to defend themselves. Once upon a time it was how we called out a knight - a warrior who lived for the defense of others and they paid for his services with their crops - too many forget that all of us owe this to everyone else in our worlds.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:51:01pm

re: #407 Amory Blaine

SUCH AN ADORABLE LITTLE CROSS STITCH

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:52:43pm

re: #407 Amory Blaine

I’m on a board of a non-profit, and we say ‘come over to the dark side; we have chocolate.’ It’s amazing what chocolate can do for a meeting.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:53:40pm

Sorry for being the angry parent here. But that kind of stuff puts this entire site at risk, and I can’t stand by and let that happen after everything I’ve gone through.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:54:53pm

Understood. I hope he does as well.

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Cheechako  Jan 9, 2017 • 9:56:57pm

And yes, the climate is changing:

Alaska’s 2016 was warmest year on record — by a wide margin

Alaska just completed its warmest year on record, a mark set by a staggering margin, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported on Monday.

The state’s average 2016 temperature of 31.9 degrees Fahrenheit was 5.9 degrees above the long-term average, and 1.6 degrees higher than the previous record annual average, set in 2014.

That is more than a record; it is “extreme,” said Rick Thoman, climate science and service manager for the National Weather Service in Alaska.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:00:26pm
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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:04:26pm

Perhaps on that document decryption, my wife needs to use RFC 2324

Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0)

Status of this Memo

This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does
not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this
memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998). All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

This document describes HTCPCP, a protocol for controlling,
monitoring, and diagnosing coffee pots.

More on RFC 2324 at the link.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:06:44pm

re: #411 Charles Johnson

Sorry for being the angry parent here. But that kind of stuff puts this entire site at risk, and I can’t stand by and let that happen after everything I’ve gone through.

The thing is you shouldn’t have to be the angry parent. IMO you’ve given ProLifeLiberal more than enough slack and he still goes off the reservation with alarming regularity.

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unproven innocence  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:06:45pm

re: #415 Anymouse

Perhaps on that document decryption, my wife needs to use RFC 2324

More on RFC 2324 at the link.

Possibly relevent: “1 April 1998”

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:19:36pm

re: #417 unproven innocence

Possibly relevent: “1 April 1998”

Yup, the RFC is not backwards compatible with my vacuum coffee pots.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:25:18pm

She broke into the Hazard Mitigation Plan documents.

Three hundred pages of everything we’re supposed to do here from disasters caused by tornadoes and blizzards (possible) to tsunamis and Godzilla (less likely).

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:25:45pm

re: #419 Anymouse

She broke into the Hazard Mitigation Plan documents.

Three hundred pages of everything we’re supposed to do here from disasters caused by tornadoes and blizzards (possible) to tsunamis and Godzilla (less likely).

Zombie apocalypse?

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:34:36pm

re: #420 Targetpractice

Zombie apocalypse?

Well, she didn’t read the whole thing, but it’s long enough it might be in there somewhere.

Mostly, what would really happen if we had a horrible disaster in the village would be:

a) the village clerk doesn’t live here, so she probably wouldn’t be the first to hear about it
b) any village trustees that survived would be on the block to get something done

We’re having troubles with our tornado siren right now, as an example. It should fire automatically from the National Weather Service, but it failed and needs replacement. That will happen in the spring; we spend tens of thousands of dollars for a new siren and controller, installing new electric and radio control and such.

In the meantime, if we have a tornado, it can still be manually sounded. I am the closest trustee to the tornado siren, so guess who gets to go out and push the button while an oncoming tornado bears down on us?

All this and the job doesn’t pay anything.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:41:41pm

re: #382 teleskiguy

Geez, the LGF thread can be weird these days. Not quite like The Great Creationist Purge, in fact not even close to that, but still …

I must not have been here when that happened. I’ll bet that was fun (not).

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:47:54pm

Our friend Pepe the Frog is back:

Russia Tweets Racist Meme in Reaction to Trump Meeting (goes to Daily Dot)

Russia just took its government-sponsored trolling out of the shadows and into the open in one of the most racist ways possible.

Russia’s London-based embassy on Monday reacted to news of British Prime Minister Theresa May’s forthcoming meeting with President-elect Donald Trump with a Pepe meme.

In today’s papers: pundits call on @Theresa_May to disrupt possible Russia-US thaw. No trust in Britain’s best friend and ally? pic.twitter.com
— Russian Embassy, UK (@RussianEmbassy) January 9, 2017

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:56:08pm

buttbart.com

Erotic Romance novelist Chuck Tingle has launched a parody site to Breitbart, linked above.

It’s quite the statement on the USA that we in the erotic Romance community have to take the lead on righting the ship-of-state. /s

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 10:57:41pm

Stepped outside to get my darn dog back inside, it’s snowing again (elevation 6,334 ft.)
after rain all day.

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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:07:30pm

re: #425 teleskiguy

Stepped outside to get my darn dog back inside, it’s snowing again (elevation 6,334 ft.)
after rain all day.

Rain, snow, rain, fun weather.

It’s 38F here at 3,586 feet plus or minus a few feet depending on where in town you live, and partly cloudy. We’re mostly going to have no precipitation except a slight chance of snow Wednesday night.

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Cheechako  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:07:44pm
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Anymouse  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:08:42pm

re: #427 Cheechako

WOW…

Volkswagen Diesel Executive Arrested by F.B.I.

Read about that this morning and posted it to a previous thread. It turns out (I wrote) you can be a corporate executive and be arrested (provided you work for a foreign firm).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:09:43pm

re: #427 Cheechako

WOW…

Volkswagen Diesel Executive Arrested by F.B.I.

Trump pardon coming in 3…2…1…

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Cheechako  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:11:05pm

re: #428 Anymouse

Read about that this morning and posted it to a previous thread. It turns out (I wrote) you can be a corporate executive and be arrested (provided you work for a foreign firm).

Thanks. I missed the earlier thread.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:28:41pm

re: #422 Anymouse

I must not have been here when that happened. I’ll bet that was fun (not).

It was very interesting, and revealing. A lot of flounces by religious fanatics that commented here. A lot of “You’re all going to burn in hell!”, shit like that.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:30:54pm

re: #422 Anymouse

If you’re really curious, this is where The Great LGF Creationist Purge started.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2017 • 11:38:02pm

re: #422 Anymouse

Here’s a great example! LGF has evolved, my dude.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:03:31am

E-mail sent to the Royal Navy (I have to spend my time doing something - this was previously approved at our last board meeting so I am not acting like a common Donald Trump going off-script):

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:24:15am

Another letter my congressman will shred before reading, because Democratic voter in NE-3. It regards his disingenuous recounting of the UN Security Council’s recent vote to condemn Israeli settlement activity in the Occupied West Bank area.

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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:26:54am

re: #391 Anymouse

Sounds like you got a lot done.

Good luck on the treasurer stuff. Hopefully it does not involve you having to collect money from neighbors who aren’t paying their property tax. That crap was what caused me to quit my HOA Treasurer volunteer position.

Congrats on getting the Emergency Mgt Plan. There is use in getting to know the State and Local EMA folks. When I worked with some who were retired fire chiefs, if nothing else, they had some great stories.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:28:46am

re: #436 ckkatz

Sounds like you got a lot done.

Good luck on the treasurer stuff. Hopefully it does not involve you having to collect money from neighbors who aren’t paying their property tax. That crap was what caused me to quit my HOA Treasurer volunteer position.

Congrats on getting the Emergency Mgt Plan. There is use in getting to know the State and Local EMA folks. When I worked with some who were retired fire chiefs, if nothing else, they had some great stories.

My wife finally (just now) managed to figure out what the heck it was the state did to foul up the files for the Emergency Management Plan, and just finished saving the files in a readable format on a flash drive for the village clerk.

1:30 in the morning, she’s been at this several hours. I wonder if she should turn in a bill?

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:28:57am
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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:35:20am

re: #437 Anymouse

Welcome to the world of local public service. Just think of all the future opportunities you will have to donate time, knowledge, and, eventually your spare change and other resources towards good governance.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:36:38am

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

Damn straight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:37:12am

re: #438 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Incompetence might diminish the extent of damage

and

more of us are going to die than necessary or usual for said period of time

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 12:55:17am

re: #439 ckkatz

Welcome to the world of local public service. Just think of all the future opportunities you will have to donate time, knowledge, and, eventually your spare change and other resources towards good governance.

LOL.

A village of 124 people really doesn’t have a whole lot of money to do things like, oh, pay elected officials.

We do have paid employees, who are probably more important to the functioning of the village anyway. Without our village clerk and maintenance mechanic, we would be up the North Platte without a paddle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:00:33am

re: #442 Anymouse

LOL.

A village of 124 people really doesn’t have a whole lot of money to do things like, oh, pay elected officials.

We do have paid employees, who are probably more important to the functioning of the village anyway. Without our village clerk and maintenance mechanic, we would be up the North Platte without a paddle.

Wow. Smaller than the village I used to live in (180 souls), although we were incorporated into a larger “municipality” of 2,000 spread over one town and three more villages. My current village has a whopping 680 inhabitants.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:10:01am

re: #432 teleskiguy

If you’re really curious, this is where The Great LGF Creationist Purge started.

littlegreenfootballs.com

re: #433 teleskiguy

Here’s a great example! LGF has evolved, my dude.

Wow. 1,623 comments. It’s going to take me a while to slug through all that.

I saw Ben Stein’s movie: It’s a good thing I didn’t have a brick to throw or I would have been buying a new computer.

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teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:22:05am

re: #444 Anymouse

If you do slog through those comments, take note of all the deleted comments and all the suspended accounts. In Internet terms LGF has a *long* history.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:24:42am

re: #445 teleskiguy

If you do slog through those comments, take note of all the deleted comments and all the suspended accounts. In Internet terms LGF has a *long* history.

I’m slogging through them now, and I did notice the deleted comments (though the page doesn’t detail whether the author or Mr. Johnson did it).

That page looks like my Yahoo Answers page when I take on creationists (when I am really bored). Same debunked talking points a decade later: “It’s just a theory” &c.

I certainly don’t want to start that up again here now, though.

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:25:23am

re: #445 teleskiguy

If you do slog through those comments, take note of all the deleted comments and all the suspended accounts. In Internet terms LGF has a *long* history.

Going through old threads is like an archaeological expedition. Every now and then, you find an old fossil…like myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:28:21am

re: #446 Anymouse

That page looks like my Yahoo Answers page when I take on creationists (when I am really bored). Same debunked talking points a decade later: “It’s just a theory” &c.

You and I are old enough to remember when we learned the basic principles of science and the historical method in schools.

We learned that one starts with a hypothesis and if it confirmed, it can be called a “theory”, which is somewhat different than our colloquial usage of “I have a theory that so-and-so is gay.”

The basic conflict is that Evolution cannot be reconciled with a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis, and since fundamentalists insist on a literal interpretation, they are prepared to go to great lengths to insist that Evolution is, well, “just a theory”.

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teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:31:07am

re: #446 Anymouse

I’m slogging through them now, and I did notice the deleted comments (though the page doesn’t detail whether the author or Mr. Johnson did it)

Charles is solely responsible for deleting comments at LGF, always has been.

I certainly don’t want to start that up again here now, though.

Don’t worry. We’ve scared away the creationists *something fierce* since then. I call it The Great LGF Creationist Purge for good reason.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:31:27am

re: #447 Targetpractice

Going through old threads is like an archaeological expedition. Every now and then, you find an old fossil…like myself.

Lol. I haven’t run across you there yet, but that is a very long thread.

What was I doing back then? Lemme think … just got married, became a prolific writer to my local Oklahoma newspaper on debunking dumb crap, launching my work in editing novels …

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:35:00am

re: #450 Anymouse

Lol. I haven’t run across you there yet, but that is a very long thread.

What was I doing back then? Lemme think … just got married, became a prolific writer to my local Oklahoma newspaper on debunking dumb crap, launching my work in editing novels …

That was about the time I joined LGF because I saw it as a conservative site that did not accept a lot of standard “conservative” dogma. And one where the tone of discussion was basically civil.

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teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:41:34am

re: #451 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And one where the tone of discussion was basically civil.

Fuck you you fuckin’ fuck! Eat my shit!

/

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:41:43am

re: #451 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was about the time I joined LGF because I saw it as a conservative site that did not accept a lot of standard “conservative” dogma. And one where the tone of discussion was basically civil.

I’m much newer around here: I did not come across LGF nor had even heard of it until Huffington Post reported on Mr. Johnson saying he would not follow Movement Conservative through the bushes and over a cliff.

huffingtonpost.com

Lurked for a couple more years before signing up.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:43:37am

There’s a BernieBro-type diary over at Kos that caught my eye tonight. Specifically, the first sentence of the second paragraph:

“I live in State of Jefferson territory in a blue pocket of a very red part of Northern California.”

That sentence caught my eye because that diary was written by a Bernie supporter and he’s one of the nuts who supports seceding and forming a new state with part of Oregon. If the moron and his believers in California did a bit of math they would discover that over 80% of the population of their proposed state would come from Oregon. Oh yeah, the Jefferson movement in Oregon is comprised of nothing but crazy conservatives who would love to take a chunk of California for themselves…lol!

Only one person called him out on the line and pointed out that wingers in Oregon support it. He lamely responded:

“Sorry, I call it that because many people in this area fly green State of Jefferson flags and wear the hats. It is not a real state, it is an area of California that some people wish could be its own state.

Yup, like this moron (or ratfucker).

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:49:57am

re: #450 Anymouse

Lol. I haven’t run across you there yet, but that is a very long thread.

What was I doing back then? Lemme think … just got married, became a prolific writer to my local Oklahoma newspaper on debunking dumb crap, launching my work in editing novels …

That’s probably because that thread’s from that period between 05 and 10 when I went off into the wilderness (i.e. real life) to search for some greater meaning. By which I mean my life got so hectic that it was impossible to keep up with threads, so I went into lurk mode for a few years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:51:00am

re: #453 Anymouse

I’m much newer around here: I did not come across LGF nor had even heard of it until Huffington Post reported on Mr. Johnson saying he would not follow Movement Conservative through the bushes and over a cliff.

Lurked for a couple more years before signing up.

I came here for an argument

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:55:15am

re: #456 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I came here for an argument

LOL.

Taking a short break, because my wife made steak and eggs.

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teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2017 • 1:59:35am

Pulitzer-worthy reporter David Fahrenthold from the Washington Post thinks this is an article everyone should read.

Gizmodo used to be a property of Gawker. I’m not defending Gawker but they did produce talented writers and good hard-hitting journalism.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:05:32am

re: #456 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Youtube Video

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:07:33am

re: #459 Single-handed sailor

oops, dammit, wrong version, reload that for the right version.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:07:37am

re: #458 teleskiguy

I mentioned that article at comment #164, but it probably bears repeating. The country has elected a fool.

That said, I suspect this isn’t Mr. Trump’s idea either - I doubt he even knew that agency existed. I am not sure which wingnut or fascist in his retinue would choose to fire them on the first day with no replacement. That is idiocy. There is a reason presidents don’t just jump in and fire them without a thoroughly-vetted replacement.

Gov. Pence, maybe? He wants an apocalypse to support his religious belief.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:12:02am

re: #461 Anymouse

Gov. Pence, maybe? He wants an apocalypse to support his religious belief.

There seem to be a lot of fundies who perfectly look forward to Armageddon and the Rapture.

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teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:14:23am

re: #461 Anymouse

Gov. Pence, maybe? He wants an apocalypse to support his religious belief.

That’s a scary fuckin’ thought. And plausible.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:18:36am

re: #462 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There seem to be a lot of fundies who perfectly look forward to Armageddon and the Rapture.

re: #463 teleskiguy

That’s a scary fuckin’ thought. And plausible.

I’d like to think if minority-VP-Elect Pence was to become President, with his knowledge of how governance and such, that he wouldn’t torch off Armageddon.

On the other hand, he notes he is a Christian first, so I’m not headed over to the betting houses on-line with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:20:40am

re: #464 Anymouse

I’d like to think if minority-VP-Elect Pence was to become President, with his knowledge of how governance and such, that he wouldn’t torch off Armageddon.

On the other hand, he notes he is a Christian first, so I’m not headed over to the betting houses on-line with that.

He will much more concerned with outlawing abortion and homosexuality than with bringing about the Second Coming.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:23:22am

We are so fucked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:25:11am

re: #466 Ace-o-aces

mentioned earlier: only consolation is that he will probably get stiffed on payment for services

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:28:00am

re: #465 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will much more concerned with outlawing abortion and homosexuality than with bringing about the Second Coming.

He could end both next month by kicking off Armageddon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:31:51am

re: #468 Anymouse

He could end both next month by kicking off Armageddon.

Nothing wrong with throwing out the baby with the bathwater, I guess…

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:32:13am

I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump’s approach to political appointments is “If Obama appointed them, they got to go.” Doesn’t matter how important their jobs were to the nation, how much they meant to the running of things, he’s kicking them all out because he’s a petty little thug who does not want anything but a long line of yes-men at his beck and call.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:34:41am

re: #467 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t even want to think about the advice he’s giving. Jesus Christ, he was photographed at a Nazi meetup just a few weeks ago!

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:34:49am

re: #470 Targetpractice

I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump’s approach to political appointments is “If Obama appointed them, they got to go.” Doesn’t matter how important their jobs were to the nation, how much they meant to the running of things, he’s kicking them all out because he’s a petty little thug who does not want anything but a long line of yes-men at his beck and call.

In other words, he wants to be a dictator.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:36:56am

re: #470 Targetpractice

I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump’s approach to political appointments is “If Obama appointed them, they got to go.” Doesn’t matter how important their jobs were to the nation, how much they meant to the running of things, he’s kicking them all out because he’s a petty little thug who does not want anything but a long line of yes-men at his beck and call.

I expect he will get upset when he finds out that he cannot force them all to sign lifetime NDAs

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:43:45am

Halfway through the commentary on the so-called “Great Creationist Purge” here.

Considering some of the acrimonious comments to each other that remain, the posts that were removed must have been real doozies.

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:43:56am

re: #472 Anymouse

In other words, he wants to be a dictator.

Of course, because that’s how he’s run things for years. Trump is the kinda guy who nobody has ever said “No” to, he was raised as a child of privilege from the moment he was born. Every time he’s fucked up, somebody else has been forced to take the fall in his stead. His daddy’s accountants have papered over his financial fuck-ups so he always comes out on top. He is used to giving a decree and his underlings making it a reality.

Which is why he has absolutely no plan for how to work with Congress, even one that is in Republican hands. He’s trying to assert dominance over them and that’s only going to go so far. After all, he’s gone in 4-8 years, while guys like Ryan will be there for long after. He’s fucking with their meal tickets and that’s not gonna fly for very long.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:47:43am

re: #475 Targetpractice

Of course, because that’s how he’s run things for years. Trump is the kinda guy who nobody has ever said “No” to, he was raised as a child of privilege from the moment he was born. Every time he’s fucked up, somebody else has been forced to take the fall in his stead. His daddy’s accountants have papered over his financial fuck-ups so he always comes out on top. He is used to giving a decree and his underlings making it a reality.

It will be frustrating when he finds out that a President has a lot less power to do things his way than a CEO.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 10, 2017 • 2:54:28am

re: #444 Anymouse

Wow. 1,623 comments. It’s going to take me a while to slug through all that.

I saw Ben Stein’s movie: It’s a good thing I didn’t have a brick to throw or I would have been buying a new computer.

Looking back on that string after all these years what jumps out at me is the arrogant, self-assured tone of the creationists. These people are profoundly authoritarian, not only in their worldview and ideology but at the most intimate personal level. They quite literally do not grasp the concept of true or false the same we do. To them, the outward, unassailable projection of certainty is exactly the same as being right: They are right because noone can force them to admit they are wrong.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 3:04:21am

re: #477 Shiplord Kirel

Looking back on that string after all these years what jumps out at me is the arrogant, self-assured tone of the creationists. These people are profoundly authoritarian, not only in their worldview and ideology but at the most intimate personal level. They quite literally do not grasp the concept of true or false the same we do. To them, the outward, unassailable projection of certainty is exactly the same as being right: They are right because noone can force them to admit they are wrong.

While I am an atheist, I would not deign to prohibit anyone from practising their religious faith (either in private or in their houses of worship), as long as they are not infringing on other’s rights (no virgin sacrifices, for example). That would be in my mind a fundamental violation of a person’s free thought or religious rights.

For many religious people however, my rights in that matter are immaterial. For example, such people might clamour for prayer in school. The same people don’t seem to get it if you offer a counter-example that would affect them: Take a community that is primarily Southern Baptist, and impose the Rosary for a morning prayer. You’d either get “well, that won’t happen” or perhaps they would rise up with guns if someone tried it.

Now we have wingnuts that want to repeal the Civil Rights Act including its public accommodations provisions. That goes back to the argument I’ve made before about only one store in my town - if they chose to ban me for being an atheist the next is sixteen miles. If they also chose to ban me the next is sixty miles.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:10:22am

re: #478 Anymouse

For many religious people however, my rights in that matter are immaterial.

Rights are relative but God’s Truth is absolute. And there is no arguing with people like that. And now people with that mindset have risen to positions of power and influence all throughout our government, society, military and educational system.

We can only hope to limit the damage they are setting out to do.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:22:47am

re: #479 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rights are relative but God’s Truth is absolute. And there is no arguing with people like that. And now people with that mindset have risen to positions of power and influence all throughout our government, society, military and educational system.

We can only hope to limit the damage they are setting out to do.

When religious groups have little power, or are weak or persecuted, they cry out for their rights to be respected. A notable American example is the Baptists, who were persecuted, jailed, exiled, or killed in New England, primarily by Congregationalists (Puritans).

They petitioned for (and won) the Separation of Church and State as expressed in the I Amendment. State power could no longer be used to discriminate or destroy one faith group or another.

But now, such groups that were once discriminated against are powerful. And now that they are, they no longer want tolerance or equality, they want “perfection.” That perfection means eroding the very same freedom they passionately argued for two hundred plus years ago.

This has been repeated throughout recorded history (as well as our own), whether the anti-Catholic sentiment, the anti-Jewish sentiment, &c.

I don’t know the answer to this. (One thing in common is they all would restrict my right to be free of religion.) It was the Catholics that got the “under God” put into the Pledge of Allegiance written by a Protestant socialist minister. Protestants used the Bible to justify Jim Crow laws for a hundred years, &c &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:28:26am

re: #480 Anymouse

When religious groups have little power, or are weak or persecuted, they cry out for their rights to be respected. A notable American example is the Baptists, who were persecuted, jailed, exiled, or killed in New England, primarily by Congregationalists (Puritans).

Shame that the Puritans did not finish off the job…

But seriously, Christianity in some form was the de facto and default state religion in America until people started speaking up for true separation of Church and State.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:33:44am

re: #481 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shame that the Puritans did not finish off the job…

As they might add if this comment were at Wonkette, with a ballot box of votes.

But seriously, Christianity in some form was the de facto and default state religion in America until people started speaking up for it.

The overwhleming majority of our early national politicians and pundits were Deists or atheists (try to get elected now). See such folk as Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Paine.

Virginia, while still a colony, ended the practice of state-support for the Anglican Church, and eventually the other colonies/states followed suit.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:34:51am

Morning all. Tuesday is my Saturday. It’s a balmy 61’ here in the TX hill country and at 7:30 ET, Pumpkin Pinochet is still quiet.

I’d fish if the wind was down but I know it’s currently rough out there. Besides I need to prune my fruit trees and mulch the current crop of oak leaves on the ground.

I raise my coffee to Sen. Booker, Lewis , and Feinstein as they testify in the Sessions hearing today. While I’m sure he will eventually be confirmed, I will enjoy seeing his feet held to the fire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:36:14am

re: #483 Dave In Austin

I raise my coffee to Sen. Booker, Lewis , and Feinstein as they testify in the Sessions hearing today. While I’m sure he will eventually be confirmed, I will enjoy seeing his feet held to the fire.

All that we can hope from the confirmation hearings is that people find out more about what sort of people Trump has chosen to run the US government in his name.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:41:03am

re: #482 Anymouse

As they might add if this comment were at Wonkette, with a ballot box of votes.

The overwhleming majority of our early national politicians and pundits were Deists or atheists (try to get elected now). See such folk as Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Paine.

Virginia, while still a colony, ended the practice of state-support for the Anglican Church, and eventually the other colonies/states followed suit.

Present-day fundamentalists would have been appalled at the state of Christianity in the 18th century, because their kind of over-the-top preaching and “witnessing” would have probably put them in the local jail. Let’s not ignore “laying on of hands” and falling down gibbering on the floor. That kind of emotional worship developed much later in American history.

Their idea of America as a Christian nation is only an idea, because it never existed in reality, at least in the form fundies want.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:41:05am

Knew this was coming, and is enough to make my blood boil.

Fort Worth officer in controversial arrest video suspended 10 days

That 10-day suspension was after the internal investigation that found that the officer had violated multiple General Orders and Codes of Conduct (full scribd document can be found in the linked story)

A quick summation of the violations:
1. Neglect of Duty
2. Failure to observe and give effect to federal, state and local statutes on policies and procedures of the department.
3. Use of excessive force (this included his assault of a handcuffed teenager)
4. Discourtesy to public while in line of duty
5. Conduct prejudicial to good order.

For all of this, he got a 10-day suspension, then will be assigned to the same neighborhood where he was caught in these egregious actions toward crime victims while giving a free pass to the guy who admitted to choking a 12-year old kid.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:41:33am

re: #483 Dave In Austin

Morning all. Tuesday is my Saturday. It’s a balmy 61’ here in the TX hill country and at 7:30 ET, Pumpkin Pinochet is still quiet.

(rest deleted)

34F here with a wind chill of 22 in the Nebraska Sandhills. Still dark.

Sometime I ought to get to bed… .

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:42:01am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All that we can hope from the confirmation hearings is that people find out more about what sort of people Trump has chosen to run the US government in his name.

I’m hoping the Democrats can make the nominees squirm on camera.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:42:40am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All that we can hope from the confirmation hearings is that people find out more about what sort of people Trump has chosen to run the US government in his name.

While I know there are bigger fish to fry out there, I’m concerned about how, if confirmed, he will handle the Cannabis situation in the states that have opted for legalization.
I wish someone would call for a National referendum to put it to bed once and for all.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:44:32am
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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:46:40am

re: #485 wheat-dogg

… Let’s not ignore “laying on of hands” and falling down gibbering on the floor… .

It would have gotten them declared “feebleminded” (epileptic) and thrown into an asylum for the rest of their days. (Correlation not being equal to causation, Charismatics and Evangelicals sure expanded as such asylums fell into disrepute and were disbanded.)

Evangelicals then pulled up old accusations of epilepsy being demon possession and such. (My first divorce was partially based on that from my ex-wife, though she sure wasn’t adverse to taking my demon-tainted possessions.)

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:47:35am

Over a thousand comments in on that thread now …wow that was a flame-fest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2017 • 4:55:46am

re: #492 Anymouse

Over a thousand comments in on that thread now …wow that was a flame-fest.

I missed it and do not even know exactly what the flaming was about.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 5:04:18am

I was pointed to this old conversation here at Little Green Footballs when it was still a conservative site on creationism.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Another up the thread called it “the great creationist purge”

I am still going through the comments, now at 1,215 and just over half way through them. I ain’t going to make it to the end before I have to get to bed.

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Anymouse  Jan 10, 2017 • 5:11:03am

littlegreenfootballs.com

Comment 1,218 from that thread, by MiguelDownInMexico:

Well, now believers have been compared to the people at Gates of Vienna.
Is this constant repetition of threads about this subject the foreword to a persecution of believers on LGF?
Is another purge approaching?

Great move to keep us focused on who the enemy are.
If LGF loses the believers, it loses a big bunch of very fine lizards.

LGF is going to look great with only agnostisc and atheists around.

Funny, it would seem that though Mr. Johnson’s Website is no longer conservative-leaning, there are plenty of religious believers here.

I’ve noted that tendency from many (but certainly not all) conservatives, that liberals/leftists/Democrats &c are all “godless atheists.” I don’t understand why even that lie is propagated. It is almost as if those particular people that promote that idea cannot make the case for their own ideas on politics/economics/whatever, so they have to engage in a “smear then shoot the messenger” strategy about their opponents.


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