After Classified Briefing With Comey, Democrats Are “Outraged”

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I think most people who aren’t hard core Trump cultists realize at this point that FBI director James Comey played a large part in tilting the 2016 election, by releasing that statement about “new Hillary Clinton emails” in the last days of the campaign — newly discovered emails that were then shown to contain absolutely nothing incriminating or even relevant.

But today House representatives had a classified briefing with Comey — and the Democrats emerged from the briefing expressing outrage at what they’d heard from Comey.

A number of House Democrats left Friday’s confidential briefing on Russian hacking fuming over the actions of FBI Director James Comey and convinced he’s unfit to lead the agency.

“I was nonjudgmental until the last 15 minutes. I no longer have that confidence in him,” Rep. Tim Walz (D-Minn.), ranking member of the Veterans Affairs Committee, said as he left the meeting in the Capitol.

“Some of the things that were revealed in this classified briefing — my confidence has been shook.”

Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, delivered a similar condemnation.

“I’m extremely concerned — extremely,” he said.

“I’ll just — I’m very angry,” echoed Rep. Mark Takano (D-Calif.).

Clearly, James Comey revealed something in this closed session that was very incriminating — for him. We can only hope that this information comes out sooner rather than later, although it’s already too late to prevent the incoming Trump Horror.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:43:23am

This is what happens when an agency head is not up to the job. Get used to it we are about to see a lot more. From our nuclear weapons to healthcare to education.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:44:17am

One source in the meeting said Comey would not answer “basic questions” about the FBI’s current investigative activities. The FBI chief was grilled “over and over again,” according to the source, about his standards for acknowledging FBI investigations, with legislators repeatedly bringing up Comey’s dramatic public confirmation that the bureau was revisiting classification issues with Hillary Clinton’s private email server days before the election, as well as his summer press conference announcing that he would not seek indictment.

Clinton is said to blame Comey’s intervention, which contravened longstanding justice department rules, for her electoral defeat.

Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat who had pressed Comey during a September hearing about his criteria for acknowledging an investigation, sharply asked Comey if the director was applying a double standard to Trump.

Comey had said in September testimony that his standard was a “a need for public to be reassured, [and] when it’s obvious, it’s apparent, given our activities, public activities that the investigation is ongoing”.

Nadler, according to a different source, then asked Comey in the Friday meeting: “Do you believe that standard has been met with reference to the possible investigation of the Trump campaign’s possible connections to the Russian government? And if not, why not?”

Comey dodged the question, sparking anger amongst attendees.

A spokesman for Nadler confirmed the congressman pressed Comey on the issue.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:50:07am

Off topic and early, so hidden

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, being raised by Conservatives is worse than being raised by wolves. Wanting to be like your father, while your father is stupid, can end in death.
gq.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:52:12am

Just seeing this. Let me guess, no Republicans have stated anything yet, correct?

If not, this will be played as a partisan witch hunt making a good man look bad.

I sure hope some Republican with some backbone makes a statement, or this goes away after this time next week.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:52:34am

The purge has begun:

In a bizarre move, Donald Trump has demanded that the commanding officer of the Washington, D.C. National Guard resign from his post in the middle of the Inauguration ceremony, even though the general will be in the middle of helping oversee the event’s security, the Washington Post reported on Friday.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:53:20am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:53:21am

re: #3 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

OT or not, it’s relevant to the whole thing. I keep reading about Trump voters who didn’t think he really meant what he said, and I keep reading that we ‘Coastal Elites’ thinking those people are stupid is why Trump won.

I gotta ask - at what point did we decide that rubes taken in by an obvious con AREN’T stupid?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:53:23am

Is anyone really surprised that Trump’s first act as president will be to fire a black man?

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:53:35am

Don’t worry, Comey’s buddy Rudy Giuliani will be taking over the cyber for Trump. All will be well (and down the rabbit hole never to be seen again).

We’re already seeing the GOP pivot on inquiries about ethics and impropriety to what Clinton did or knew about what the FBI was up to - not what the FBI was doing (or not doing). See Chaffetz pushing this nonsense.

Watch the GOP gut the independence of the Ethics Office, so that Trump gets a pass on his conflicts of interest (rubber stamping the empty paper folders that Trump trotted out this week as “proof/evidence” of something that doesn’t qualify as a blind trust or divestment from his business ventures.

But Trump’s busy lashing out at Clinton again today, which suggests that Trump’s doing the very things he accuses Clinton of doing/having done.

That’s the MO for the Trump tweets. Claim others are doing what he’s already done.

Classic DARVO tactics, but he’s now pushing levers of government to achieve his goals (and those of the #GOPDontCare).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:57:00am

re: #8 De Kolta Chair

Is anyone really surprised that Trump’s first act as president will be to fire a black man?

He already fired all of our ambassadors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:59:22am

*blink*

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b.d.  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:01:46pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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what!?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:02:27pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, since Steve Harvey is a first class raving loon who demeans women and is currently in the middle of a controversy for his ugly racist mockery of Asians, this makes perfect sense.

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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:02:58pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve Harvey shills for Green Dot cards. Since those are so bad for the poor people, its no surprise that he would team up with someone like Carson to be an anti-poor Voltron.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:02:58pm

arbys ad hijacking the page again. really bad

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:03:52pm

re: #6 Kragar

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Whoa.

That is going to leave a mark. A huge one.

On our country.

I am really getting fearful now. A famous Black Congressman, seen as a pillar of the Black Community making a statement like that in today’s political environment frankly scares me, as I fear for him.

But then again…he has shown he has the strength of conviction to make that statement. So no one better to make it.

Stay safe Mr. Lewis. Please stay safe.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:03:58pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was an act of idiocy for Obama to nominate Comey as FBI director. Comey has been a Republican apparatchik his entire career, starting with participating in the Whitewater witch hunts.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:05:20pm

Every 15 seconds I get yanked to the ad

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:05:25pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:07:41pm

re: #6 Kragar

Good for John Lewis. Reasons to believe this election result is bogus start with Trump’s narrow margins in the critical states and include:

1) The critical states are ruled by Republicans at the state level. Voter suppression is certain and the counts themselves are open to question because Republicans.

2) Comey.

3) Russian interference in the election, in coordination with the Trump campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:08:19pm

re: #6 Kragar

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:08:39pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Well, since Steve Harvey is a first class raving loon who demeans women and is currently in the middle of a controversy for his ugly racist mockery of Asians, this makes perfect sense.

Thank you Charles.

I just deleted a comment I was going to make thinking calling him “preachy fake” was going to be seen as out of line. The dude creeps me out, and has for a long time.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:09:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:10:24pm

“How to be a Gracious Winner:

barf

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:10:33pm

Reposted from downstairs just so I didn’t forget to answer:

re: #344 Jebediah, RBG

Is that a portrait of you? It’s good!

HAHAHAHAHAHA it might be me on a bad day LOLOLOL

Seriously though, @betsythebeaver is a damn good artist and more than worthy of a follow. I wish I had 1/8 of her talent.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:10:43pm

re: #15 Scottish Dragon

arbys ad hijacking the page again. really bad

A suggestion. See if you can copy the address of the ad and add it to your “exceptions list” in your anti-virus software. It worked for me a few months back.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:11:26pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

One week from today, educated America will have only one question — is Trump a Caligula or is he a Nero?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:11:56pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:12:29pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

Goddam you, Steve. As a fellow Clevelander I wish to submit my apologies for him. As well as Larry Elder.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:12:41pm

re: #26 ObserverArt

A suggestion. See if you can copy the address of the ad and add it to your “exceptions list” in your anti-virus software. It worked for me a few months back.

I have absolutely no idea how to do that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:12:47pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:12:56pm

re: #14 I cannot.

Steve Harvey shills for Green Dot cards. Since those are so bad for the poor people, its no surprise that he would team up with someone like Carson to be an anti-poor Voltron.

LOLOL

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:12:58pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

I’m just happy that Couter’s picture is not the first thing I see when I open my favorite Web site.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:13:42pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m a guess the largest category is self-congratulations.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:14:37pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

I noted this a while back, but I’m wondering if 2017 is going to be the year of 4 presidents. Yeah, I think it’s got that kind of vibe, and that many bad actors among the GOP that we’ll see stuff never before contemplated in American politics (we’re already seeing it).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:15:07pm
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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:15:08pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

No shit.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:15:26pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

No surprise at all. Everyone in the entire world except for self-deluded centrists and conservatives in the US knows that the US white house will become an agency of Russian Intelligence starting 1/20/17. Every single bit of classified information that reaches the White House will be known to Russia the same day.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:16:12pm

And yes - you may have noticed that I’m been a whole lot freer with cursing. Watching the country sliding towards fascism with an authoritarian dumbass leading the way does that.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:17:37pm

Well, it went onto another ad and I was able to hit pause. So that worked for now.

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KGxvi  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:19:01pm

re: #36 lawhawk

I noted this a while back, but I’m wondering if 2017 is going to be the year of 4 presidents. Yeah, I think it’s got that kind of vibe, and that many bad actors among the GOP that we’ll see stuff never before contemplated in American politics (we’re already seeing it).

Obama, Trump, Pence… Obama leaves office peacefully. Trump resigns or is impeached (or is physically incapacitated). What brings Pence down? And is before or after he gets to appoint (and Congress confirms) a new VP?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:19:19pm

I keep saying this… but we need someone in the IC to feed Trump and his “advisers” some bullshit that we can tell has been obtained by the Russians.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:19:21pm

re: #30 Scottish Dragon

I have absolutely no idea how to do that.

Hover over the ad and write down the address you see at the bottom of the page. All you need is the main address. Everything after the . com / may not be needed. Then add that info to your exceptions list. Most anti-virus software has a page to add sites you do not want coming in.

This way another ad might be chosen to load and it won’t affect Charles like turning off all ads would. It can take a little work, but I’ve seen you mention that Arby’s ad a couple times so you may have a cookie that keeps attracting it back into your browser.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:20:12pm

re: #40 lawhawk

And yes - you may have noticed that I’m been a whole lot freer with cursing. Watching the country sliding towards fascism with an authoritarian dumbass leading the way does that.

I’ve said before that I think it’s impossible to comment on Trump without using profanity.

Trump and the Republicans are shit. They are not just any ordinary shit either. It’s more like the last shit from an ebola-infected monkey where it craps out its entire GI tract right before dying.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:20:20pm

Trash can man just appeared.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:20:31pm

re: #36 lawhawk

I noted this a while back, but I’m wondering if 2017 is going to be the year of 4 presidents. Yeah, I think it’s got that kind of vibe, and that many bad actors among the GOP that we’ll see stuff never before contemplated in American politics (we’re already seeing it).

We will have to resign ourselves to dealing with Trump for 4 years until we can hopefully take over by then and fix all this shit. I’m not too hopeful about 2018, honestly.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:21:18pm

Welp, Charlie Sykes’ entry into retirementhood has apparently been short-lived.

Charlie Sykes & Others To Host WNYC & Minnesota Public Radio Nightly Call-In Show

Sigh…

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:22:52pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

No surprise at all. Everyone in the entire world except for self-deluded centrists and conservatives in the US knows that the US white house will become an agency of Russian Intelligence starting 1/20/17. Every single bit of classified information that reaches the White House will be known to Russia the same day.

A good way to pay off debts that are denied exist.

I sure hope the NSA has a efficient way to monitor the White House.

And yes, that was extremely difficult to type…calling for our spies to spy on our president.

Never though I would suggest that. Never thought we’d have Trump in the control seat.

I feel dirty now.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:23:13pm

re: #43 GlutenFreeJesus

I keep saying this… but we need someone in the IC to feed Trump and his “advisers” some bullshit that we can tell has been obtained by the Russians.

This counter-intelligence op should have started on Nov 9, 2016. Espionage can be a capital charge under Federal law, and it was amusing to daydream of scenarios where some or all of the major Trump campaign officials had to fight for their lives in Jan 2017. Alas it’s a pipe dream.

Any good evidence that was obtained has most likely been suppressed to provide a peaceful transition of power.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:24:18pm

re: #15 Scottish Dragon

arbys ad hijacking the page again. really bad

I just reported this to the ad network that’s probably serving that ad, and have disabled that network for now until I hear back. This is really not OK with me, and I let them know.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:24:22pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Please tell me that Todd said “forged” and not “foraged” as the transcript states.

Pedants are us.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:24:29pm

re: #40 lawhawk

And yes - you may have noticed that I’m been a whole lot freer with cursing. Watching the country sliding towards fascism with an authoritarian dumbass leading the way does that.

Same.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:25:10pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:25:41pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I just reported this to the ad network that’s probably serving that ad, and have disabled that network for now until I hear back. This is really not OK with me, and I let them know.

Thanks. I think your action is what let me actually pause the ad, because I couldn’t do so a few minutes ago.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:25:52pm

re: #52 BeachDem

Please tell me that Todd said “forged” and not “foraged” as the transcript states.

Pedants are us.

Heh, that was covered in one of the Tweet threads linked above. You are not alone!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:27:09pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:28:16pm

re: #42 KGxvi

Impeached for knowledge of Russians manipulating the Trump campaign/disinformation, and other attacks on the US, and violating his oath to the Constitution.

Ditto for Ryan.

I wouldn’t put it past either of those guys, or McConnell that they knew, and looked the other way because they saw the opening to unlimited power to roll back 100 years of progress in one shot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:28:30pm

re: #6 Kragar

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As I said at the end of the last thread, the Right, after spending eight years denying the legitimacy of President Obama, will go apeshit over Lewis’ statement.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:29:00pm

Seeing Trump with Harvey just strikes home that we don’t have a president. We have a bad actor.

Double meaning intended.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:29:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:29:26pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:31:29pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

Seeing Trump with Harvey just strikes home that we don’t have president. We have a bad actor.

Double meaning intended.

Or to put it in the context of the old joke, “One of those two is a horrible washed up actor. The other is Steve Harvey.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:32:50pm

this was during this:

Svitek’s TL is full of gobsmacking comments by Cornyn and Cruz.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:33:05pm

I know it’s the front page of a foreign newspaper, but some might find it inappropriate as a cartoon.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:33:11pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

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So, if I understand correctly, the press corps. current job is to stand around the lobby at Trump Tower and see who gets on the elevator?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:33:29pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:35:54pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz can’t smile without looking like a stock bad guy from a Z-movie western.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:36:29pm

re: #65 lawhawk

I know it’s the front page of a foreign newspaper, but some might find it inappropriate as a cartoon.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:36:29pm
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jimmyvluv4u  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:36:37pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

I admire the restraint here, but isn’t one of them going to pull a Chaffetz at some point and just leak whatever got said?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:37:37pm

because the current military are a bunch of wimps according to Ted “I Never Served” Cruz…

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:39:01pm

re: #71 jimmyvluv4u

I admire the restraint here, but isn’t one of them going to pull a Chaffetz at some point and just leak whatever got said?

If the latest from Comey is sufficiently damaging, one or all of the Democratic congress members that heard it should just put it into the Congressional Record. Invoke legislative immunity.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:40:38pm

re: #40 lawhawk

And yes - you may have noticed that I’m been a whole lot freer with cursing. Watching the country sliding towards fascism with an authoritarian dumbass leading the way does that.

I’ve found myself much more freely flipping the bird—both as an emoji and as a giant graphic. I just… *sigh, smh*

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jimmyvluv4u  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:40:57pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

At this point I’m just assuming it’s so bad that publicly releasing it would basically throw us into some sort of constitutional crisis with a non-existent or completely ineffective executive branch.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:41:55pm

LO fucking L

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:42:01pm

I guess some people really, really like jail food.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:42:47pm

re: #76 jimmyvluv4u

Look at #2. I think what they were furious at is he refused to answer anything substantive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:44:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:46:11pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:46:12pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:49:00pm

re: #16 ObserverArt

Stay safe Mr. Lewis. Please stay safe.

No motherfucker better harm that man.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:50:26pm

re: #83 Jebediah, RBG

No motherfucker better harm that man.

I have long since given up on the idea that we will get out of this without bloodshed.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:50:54pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:52:03pm

re: #25 Myron Falwell (no relation)

She sure is. Even if it isn’t you, I really liked it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:52:14pm

rhetorical question, of course.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:53:29pm

re: #78 De Kolta Chair

I guess some people really, really like jail food.

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I really find it so hard to imagine that there’s really that many people out there so utterly fucking disconnected from objective reality.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:53:37pm

re: #84 Scottish Dragon

I have long since given up on the idea that we will get out of this without bloodshed.

Sadly, I have to agree with you at this point.

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b.d.  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:54:14pm

The republicans already passed 50 bills to repeal Obamacare and now they don’t know how to craft one?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:54:40pm

re: #65 lawhawk

I know it’s the front page of a foreign newspaper, but some might find it inappropriate as a cartoon.

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They made Trump’s hands too big.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:55:02pm

re: #90 b.d.

The republicans already passed 50 bills to repeal Obamacare and now they don’t know how to craft one?

Those were just political statements. The next one has real world consequences.

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:55:44pm

re: #70 De Kolta Chair

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That’s fine, I’m probably not marching either for various reasons, but why not march and do the other stuff too? Do we always have to try to divide groups? (Not directed to you personally-more towards the media.)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:56:40pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

I really find it so hard to imagine that there’s really that many people out there so utterly fucking disconnected from objective reality.

Dude, in one more week the U.S. is going to inaugurate its first ever Carnival Barker in Chief, as if he’s qualified to lead this country. How much more evidence do you need? //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:56:53pm

Had to fix a spelling mistake. Can you guess which one it could have been? *quack*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:57:08pm

I know! I know!
Because that’s what assholes do. And they are just so proud of themselves when they do it.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:58:05pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know! I know!
Because that’s what assholes do. And they are just so proud of themselves when they do it.

Because he doesn’t grasp how functioning governments work?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:58:09pm

re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus

Had to fix a spelling mistake. Can you guess which one it could have been? *quack*

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well, “ducking” did work just as well because that’s exactly what he’s doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 12:59:49pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know! I know!
Because that’s what assholes do. And they are just so proud of themselves when they do it.

And I just bet that he believes that he is the very first person to EVER come up with that stupid stunt.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:01:20pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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rhetorical question, of course.

I asked the same yesterday. ಠ_ಠ

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:04:13pm

re: #78 De Kolta Chair

I guess some people really, really like jail food.

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This is nuts, but at least it’s getting some wackjobs off the street. The more victims of fake news get themselves locked up, the less that will be loose voting based on their hateful propaganda-driven delusions.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:08:00pm

When you look at the GOP bills to repeal Obamacare in the past, the majority are simply ones that identify the PPACA enabling language and repeal it. A handful simply create sunset/repeal dates for the PPACA (including the one that was vetoed by the President last year), and don’t offer anything approaching replacement.

That would repeal everything, including funding for Medicaid, Medicare, and all the other changes that people like, need, and actually rely upon but don’t realize are part of the ACA’s suite of improvements to health insurance.

Now that they’re actually faced with task of repeal, they now have to figure out what to do.

That’s why the GOP better way/better plan is total vaporware. Heck, vaporware suggests that there’s something there. They haven’t even drafted a repeal, let alone replacement. The GOP simply don’t know what they’re doing - but they’re going to do it fast. And in the middle of the night. That’s how they roll in the Shire.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:09:22pm

Arby ad moved to top right of age…yanks me back to the top of the page every 15 seconds. Guess I’ll wait and see if another ad starts that I can pause. I cannot stop the arby ad at all and I cannot see an address for it.

I can’t do anything else here until it stops. ben yanked away 6 times now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

re: #103 Scottish Dragon

Arby ad moved to top right of age…yanks me back to the top of the page every 15 seconds. Guess I’ll wait and see if another ad starts that I can pause. I cannot stop the arby ad at all and I cannot see an address for it.

I can’t do anything else here until it stops. ben yanked away 6 times now

Have you refreshed the page since Charles contacted the ad people? It might be stuck in your cache…try clearing that, too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:11:17pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

Seeing as how these fools are determined to axe needed health insurance for millions of Americans, I suggest that those who do in fact lose their coverage in the time ahead remit their medical bills to the following good people.

Speaker of The House Paul Ryan; 1233 Longworth HOB, Washington, D.C. 20515

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell; 317 Russell Senate Office Building,
Washington, D.C. 20510

President Donald J. Trump: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20500

Send it certified mail so someone there at these offices has to sign for it.

Fuck these clowns. Let them have to look at people’s bills. Seriously. I doubt they’ll care, but if enough Americans did this (like say, a few million) it might light a fire under their ass to actually do something meaningful (though I wouldn’t count on that).

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:12:22pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Have you refreshed the page since Charles contacted the ad people? It might be stuck in your cache…try clearing that, too.

Yes, I just came back to the page. The arby ad plays though a couple dozen times it seems and then another ad starts that will let me finally hit pause, which I just did. The Arby’s ad is really fucking aggressive about not being paused or stopped at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:12:26pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:13:20pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

I asked the same yesterday. ಠ_ಠ

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They didn’t think they would actually have a chance to do it for real.

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:13:51pm

I think Comey just straight out said “Yeah, I did it to derail Clinton. I’ve been after her for 24 years and I saw my opportunity. To hell with the professionalism of the FBI and the well-being of the country. My job will be safe under Trump.”

I was listening to the Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe podcast the other day, and they were talking about how people’s brains react when they hear stuff that’s true but conflicts with their belief system. The subjects of the tests were self-described liberals.

The discussion turned to how people have their bubbles, and we should try to make an effort to listen to opposing points of view. The host, Dr. Steve Novella, who is a neurosurgeon and brother to two other regular panelists, made references to people he talked to who refuse to believe their candidate was lying, even when presented recorded documented evidence of such an act.

It’s worth noting that Dr. Novella and his two brothers occasionally reference their dad, who is implied to be conservative.

I’m trying to give the SGU a pass as they try to stick to science and science education. Here’s my thing, though: it really is staring to come off like that being forceful in calling out the out-and-out peril Trump and the current shit show the GOP has become is somehow being in a liberal bubble.

Complaining about the sitting head of the FBI pulling something that was out-of-bounds even for J. Edgar Hoover, the closest thing we’ve had to the head of a secret police force, is somehow being stuck in a liberal bubble.

I was talking with my dad at lunch yesterday. He watched the entire Trump presser. His only take away was that CNN was irresponsible and that Trump was justified in behaving like a two year old. Granted, I get a little worked up when talking about this stuff, but no amount of evidence that I present to him will convince him that Trump is a danger. He really honestly thinks everything will work out.

Point out that Trump has no experience in government? Doesn’t care.

Point out that Trump has paid his taxes in two decades? Well, he smart at working the system.

Point out that Trump not paying taxes is a sign that he’s a terrible businessman, and should not be allowed near the federal budget? Doesn’t care.

Point out that Paul Ryan wants to replace his current Medicare with insurance that will not cover anywhere near the amount money his afflictions cost him? Eh, I’ll be fine.

My dad claims to have voted for Clinton; is generally politically apathetic; and rarely, if ever, watches Fox.

But his whole take on Trump being President is that everybody is whining over nothing, and it will be okay. Part of that is my father is one of those personal fable types, who thinks nothing bad will ever happen to him. That’s part of how he views the current situation.

But my dad is just one of far too many Americans who feel this way. And Comey using the FBI to derail a presidential election, which was the same goal as the Russian government, means nothing to them.

But, no, pointing out the evidence that Donald Trump is spectacularly unfit to run the country in a way we’ve almost never seen in this country is living in a liberal bubble.

I just don’t know how we fight this. I really think we’re at the beginning of a really dark period in American history. I hate using this analogy, but the only reason Germany gave up on Hitler was because a good chunk of the civilized world nearly bombed them into oblivion. It’s not like they walked away from Hitler willingly.

I really do see a similar fate for the US. The problem is we may take most of the human, plant and animal life on this planet with us in the process.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:15:28pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

Seeing as how these fools are determined to axe needed health insurance for millions of Americans, I suggest that those who do in fact lose their coverage in the time ahead remit their medical bills to the following good people.

Speaker of The House Paul Ryan; 1233 Longworth HOB, Washington, D.C. 20515

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell; 317 Russell Senate Office Building,
Washington, D.C. 20510

President Donald J. Trump: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20500

Send it certified mail so someone there at these offices has to sign for it.

Fuck these clowns. Let them have to look at people’s bills. Seriously. I doubt they’ll care, but if enough Americans did this (like say, a few million) it might light a fire under their ass to actually do something meaningful (though I wouldn’t count on that).

I have already called my two senators and told their staff all medical bills will be referred to their offices. Moreover, I will change my contact phone number to one of their offices as well as my “permanent address” for billing.

They want to fuck with us? They can have the bills.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:17:03pm

huh…my eejit congresscritter voted “no” on the ACA repeal resolution. Probably because he’s Rand Paul BFF.

Only nine Republicans crossed the aisle to side with Democrats against the measure: Reps. Justin Amash, Charlie Dent, Brian Fitzpatrick, Walter Jones, John Katko, Raul Labrador, Tom MacArthur, Thomas Massie and Tom McClintock, No Democrats voted for the resolution.

cnn.com

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:17:25pm

re: #106 Scottish Dragon

I’d un-white-list LGF in your ad-blocker for a couple of hours. I’m sure Charles will fix it soon.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:18:02pm

re: #112 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

I’d un-white-list LGF in your ad-blocker for a couple of hours. I’m sure Charles will fix it soon.

I have no idea what that even means.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:18:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:19:53pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:20:06pm

re: #110 Scottish Dragon

Cool. Now if, let’s say, 15 million Americans did that, such a course of action might grab their attention and make them say, “Gentlemen, we’ve gotta save our phoney-baloney jobs! Harrumph! Harrumph!”

And with that, good night.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:20:37pm

re: #67 De Kolta Chair

Paul R. Potts @paulrpotts
@msgwenl @FrankConniff you can spend your time attacking folks who tried to get single-payer for all, or you can shake your tiny fists.
1:07 PM - 13 Jan 2017

Prime example: You can’t fix stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:22:18pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:22:34pm

re: #113 Scottish Dragon

I have no idea what that even means.

Then you probably don’t have an ad-blocker running, so nevermind.
If you’re curious: Those of us that use ad blockers to improve our Internet experience can add sites like LGF to a white-list so they do not get blocked and the site owner gets paid. I tend to assume everyone is blocking ads at this point.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:22:54pm

re: #68 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Cruz can’t smile without looking like a stock bad guy from a Z-movie western.

I see him more as the guy on the street in a large city that wears a rain coat and has those trick pant legs that come up to the knees and are held in place but elastic bands. With no other clothes.

“Hey, you wanna see my ‘package’?”

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:22:54pm

re: #109 Mattand

It’s a wholesale rejection of objective reality.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), reality does have a way with catching up to us.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:23:55pm

re: #109 Mattand

Most of my coworkers are acting like your dad, though I doubt too many of them voted for Clinton. The plurality of the country, a huge portion of them middle class, doesn’t think much will change. Things might get a little worse, but the next group will fix it.

Maybe they’re right. Maybe things won’t turn out so bad. But I think the only way that happens is those of us who see what Trump/Putin can do keep up with it and keep them from doing it. Sadly, all that will mean is a huge chunk of people won’t learn any lesson, but I’m here to take care of the people I care about, not have them get hurt to teach others a lesson.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:24:22pm

re: #86 Jebediah, RBG

She sure is. Even if it isn’t you, I really liked it!

Thank you! 😸 I’ll definitely let her know!

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:24:37pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:24:38pm

re: #119 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Then you probably don’t have an ad-blocker running, so nevermind.
If you’re curious: Those of us that use ad blockers to improve our Internet experience can add sites like LGF to a white-list so they do not get blocked and the site owner gets paid. I tend to assume everyone is blocking ads at this point.

I have whatever is on Norton. I don’t much pay attention to it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:25:08pm

In a sharp turn of events, President-elect Donald Trump is expected to name Philip Bilden, a private equity investment firm executive with no military or government experience, to be his first secretary of the Navy. The appointment would be the latest sign that Trump wants wealthy businessmen rather than military, policy or political leaders to run the military service agencies.

Bilden has now “moved to the front of the pack and is expected to be named as early as next week,” one transition official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about internal deliberations, told me. A second transition official confirmed that Bilden is now the likely choice, although nothing is final until announced. For months until recently, former Republican congressman Randy Forbes was widely expected to be named Navy secretary. Forbes had visited Trump Tower multiple times and was approved by top Trump transition officials.

But over the past couple of weeks, Bilden has emerged as Trump’s choice. His appointment would follow the appointment of another wealthy businessman, Vincent Viola, to be secretary of the Army. Trump’s defense secretary nominee, retired Gen. James N. Mattis, was furious about the Viola appointment, mostly because he wasn’t in the loop. But transition sources told me Mattis has signed off on Bilden.

yeppers…let’s run our military like businesses, too…

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:25:44pm

re: #121 Moebym

It’s a wholesale rejection of objective reality.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), reality does have a way with catching up to us.

I agree, but the catching up with us may include millions dying in nuclear firestorms.

The fact that I am hoping that the Vice President, a well-known and unapologetic relgious fanatic, will somehow be given the nuclear codes to prevent Trump from starting the Apocalypse, is ulcer-inducing.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:26:42pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Look at those smirks. Arrrgghh

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:26:58pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeppers…let’s run our military like businesses, too…

Some guy who figures he can sell a few spare Navy ships to some random countries and pocket the profits…

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:26:59pm

re: #125 Scottish Dragon

I have whatever is on Norton. I don’t much pay attention to it.

Carry on not paying attention to it, and have a great weekend! An ad problem on LGF is going to get solved shortly after you notify Charles, so it’s nothing you need to mess with unfamiliar settings for.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:28:50pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

LO fucking L

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Some great humor in those tweets. “Bottom of it” and “our units.”

The portable potty COO is a humorist…realized or not.

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:29:01pm

re: #122 Belafon

Most of my coworkers are acting like your dad, though I doubt too many of them voted for Clinton. The plurality of the country, a huge portion of them middle class, doesn’t think much will change. Things might get a little worse, but the next group will fix it.

Maybe they’re right. Maybe things won’t turn out so bad. But I think the only way that happens is those of us who see what Trump/Putin can do keep up with it and keep them from doing it. Sadly, all that will mean is a huge chunk of people won’t learn any lesson, but I’m here to take care of the people I care about, not have them get hurt to teach others a lesson.

As misanthropic and cynical as I can be, I really, really counted on my fellow citizens to reject this monster outright. And they didn’t.

It’s like arguing about the color of the sky with someone who insists it’s pink with yellow stripes, and not blue. I just do not how to handle people like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:29:52pm

Esther the Wonder Pig doesn’t need to actually wake up…

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:29:53pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I just bet that he believes that he is the very first person to EVER come up with that stupid stunt.

And I wonder what he paid for all the shiny new wheelbarrows.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:30:07pm

re: #113 Scottish Dragon

I have no idea what that even means.

If you use Chrome or Firefox you can download Ad Block Plusn.

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:30:20pm

re: #128 BeachDem

Look at those smirks. Arrrgghh

You should see the “Maniacal Laugh” version.

“Gentlemen! To evil!”

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:31:14pm

re: #132 Mattand

As misanthropic and cynical as I can be, I really, really counted on my fellow citizens to reject this monster outright. And they didn’t.

It’s like arguing about the color of the sky with someone who insists it’s pink with yellow stripes, and not blue. I just do not how to handle people like that.

I’m a cynical pessimist, and I was surprised at how terrible the American people are. It’s mind-blowing for so many of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:31:45pm

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:32:56pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeppers…let’s run our military like businesses, too…

Well he has already tried to shake down NATO members for more money to have our troops stationed there. So it should come as no surprise when he tries to lease them out to the highest bidder.

1/2 //

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:33:18pm

re: #137 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

I’m a cynical pessimist, and I was surprised at how terrible the American people are. It’s mind-blowing for so many of us.

It kinda hit me this morning that at least a quarter of our population feels more loyalty to Russia than to the United States.

What a weird damn time to be alive.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:33:23pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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Sir John Barron  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:34:09pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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on behalf of tens of thousands of KY’s who now won’t have health care coverage. Sounds awesome.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:34:39pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:35:12pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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on behalf of tens of thousands of KY’s who have coverage through their employers or have Medicare and who don’t like others having healthcare.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:35:25pm

re: #140 scottslemmons

It kinda hit me this morning that at least a quarter of our population feels more loyalty to Russia than to the United States.

What a weird damn time to be alive.

It had been coming for a while, with all those gay-for-Putin memes they’ve been passing around for years. They hate the faux-tyranny of having to obey civil rights laws, but love actual tyranny. So many of us are so, so stupid.

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Donkey With No Name  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:35:33pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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The other 4 million Kentuckians, on the other hand…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:35:47pm

what happens when you think driving on ice on the interstate is no big deal:

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:36:21pm

re: #132 Mattand

As misanthropic and cynical as I can be, I really, really counted on my fellow citizens to reject this monster outright. And they didn’t.

It’s like arguing about the color of the sky with someone who insists it’s pink with yellow stripes, and not blue. I just do not how to handle people like that.

Thing is, though, if you look at the raw popular vote count, the people did reject this monster.

Just not in all the right places.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:36:41pm

re: #146 Donkey With No Name

The other 4 million Kentuckians, on the other hand…

well, who gives a sh*t about them?

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:37:28pm

re: #144 Sir John Barron

on behalf of tens of thousands of KY’s who have coverage through their employers or have Medicare and who don’t like others having healthcare.

As long as those people don’t have dependents age 21-26 that they enjoyed being able to insure. So many of us are getting fucked, and I’m not a Conservative, so it still matters to me, even though I’m not using any ACA provisions at this time.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:37:28pm

re: #142 Sir John Barron

on behalf of tens of thousands of KY’s who now won’t have health care coverage. Sounds awesome.

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It’s the tens of thousands of wealthy and upper income people that won’t have to worry their conscience about helping moochers.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:37:41pm
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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:37:59pm

re: #145 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

It had been coming for a while, with all those gay-for-Putin memes they’ve been passing around for years. They hate the faux-tyranny of having to obey civil rights laws, but love actual tyranny. So many of us are so, so stupid.

And it’s not just the wingnuts. There’s an alarmingly large chunk of the left — not even the extreme left — that thinks more positively of Putin than anything in the US.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:38:12pm

re: #148 Moebym

Thing is, though, if you look at the raw popular vote count, the people did reject this monster.

Not enough of them. If the coastal states and Chicago didn’t exist, we’d be a 3rd world country.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:39:16pm

re: #154 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Not enough of them. If the coastal states and Chicago didn’t exist, we’d be a 3rd world country.

That was true before Trump was elected.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:39:20pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Yeah but if it hurts others more, than it’s OK.”

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:39:25pm

re: #153 scottslemmons

And it’s not just the wingnuts. There’s an alarmingly large chunk of the left — not even the extreme left — that thinks more positively of Putin than anything in the US.

True
en.wikipedia.org

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:40:21pm

re: #155 Belafon

That was true before Lamarr was elected.

Yes, but it’s more in my face now that more Northern states fell to the madness and elected Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:42:09pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

A proud Kentucky asshat:

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Well, we were dangerously close to having almost as high a percentage of health-insured in America as in most other countries.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:42:16pm

re: #109 Mattand

A question to ask your dad: What would it take for Trump to make him mad?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:42:17pm

re: #140 scottslemmons

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:44:05pm

re: #127 Mattand

I agree, but the catching up with us may include millions dying in nuclear firestorms.

The fact that I am hoping that the Vice President, a well-known and unapologetic relgious fanatic, will somehow be given the nuclear codes to prevent Trump from starting the Apocalypse, is ulcer-inducing.

When I’m feeling optimistic about Pence (that is a difficult phrase to even type) I think of how the Republicans have strung the religious right along for years, but basically ignored them once in office. Perhaps it will continue. If they repeal Roe and do some of the other crap the religiolists want, they’ll have nothing left to offer them.

OK—it’s a multi-layered pipe dream, but it’s all I have at the moment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:44:12pm

re: #151 Belafon

It’s the tens of thousands of wealthy and upper income people that won’t have to worry their conscience about helping moochers.

No, it’s the 400 highest wealthiest families who will enjoy a $7 million (per family) tax break, paid for by the cancellation of healthcare of 20 million Americans.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:44:48pm

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:46:15pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

They didn’t think they would actually have a chance to do it for real.

Yeah, they’re like the dog that finally catches the car. //

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:53:22pm

re: #84 Scottish Dragon

I have long since given up on the idea that we will get out of this without bloodshed.

I wish you were wrong.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:54:38pm

re: #102 lawhawk

When you look at the GOP bills to repeal Obamacare in the past, the majority are simply ones that identify the PPACA enabling language and repeal it. A handful simply create sunset/repeal dates for the PPACA (including the one that was vetoed by the President last year), and don’t offer anything approaching replacement.

That would repeal everything, including funding for Medicaid, Medicare, and all the other changes that people like, need, and actually rely upon but don’t realize are part of the ACA’s suite of improvements to health insurance.

Now that they’re actually faced with task of repeal, they now have to figure out what to do.

That’s why the GOP better way/better plan is total vaporware. Heck, vaporware suggests that there’s something there. They haven’t even drafted a repeal, let alone replacement. The GOP simply don’t know what they’re doing - but they’re going to do it fast. And in the middle of the night. That’s how they roll in the Shire.

I somtimes wonder if this is all just a big display to their ignorant base.

The old ‘they are doing the hard work of the people’ show for the crowd.

Then since most of their backers have no idea that Obamacare is the ACA, they can add some patches to the original package then call it FreedomCare or something and be seen as the he-rows that got rid of that nasty Obamacare and gave us what we needed.

(I hope at least…because they have boxed themselves into it)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:57:51pm

re: #109 Mattand

It won’t make you feel any better, but I read this yesterday—it was pretty chilling, given what followed.

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:58:00pm

re: #160 Belafon

A question to ask your dad: What would it take for Trump to make him mad?

Heh, being black while President-ing would do it.

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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:58:29pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

The only patch they can do that would satisfy their voters is to repeal the individual mandate. Which is the keystone of the whole thing.

They can’t do any “patches”. They are stuck with “repeal and tax cuts” and that’s all they have and all they ever can have.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 1:59:47pm

re: #170 I cannot.

The only patch they can do that would satisfy their voters is to repeal the individual mandate. Which is the keystone of the whole thing.

They can’t do any “patches”. They are stuck with “repeal and tax cuts” and that’s all they have and all they ever can have.

The individual mandate is one of the two most popular provisions among Republican voters, along with keeping your kids on until they are 27.

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:01:01pm

re: #168 CuriousLurker

It won’t make you feel any better, but I read this yesterday—it was pretty chilling, given what followed.

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Yeah, that’s the stuff I worry about. Much of this election was about white people seeking vengeance they think they were owed.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:01:35pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Money feeds the ego maniac. Fuck Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:03:08pm

re: #142 Sir John Barron

on behalf of tens of thousands of KY’s who now won’t have health care coverage. Sounds awesome.

//

My esteemed Rep is dealing with much more “important” issues.

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Mattand  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:03:27pm

re: #148 Moebym

Thing is, though, if you look at the raw popular vote count, the people did reject this monster.

Just not in all the right places.

You’re right, and thanks for the reminder. I mentioned here the other day that I have to remind myself that Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. Which, again to paraphrase Bob Cessca, is stunning when you consider the laundry list of hurdles she had to overcome: sexism; the FBI; the Russian government; fake e-mail scandal; etc.

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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:05:37pm

re: #171 Belafon

It’s not so popular if you phrase it as “government making you pay for something you may not even need” (I’m looking at you, Frank Luntz!)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:07:43pm

When I think about the GOP Obamacare repeal I think about gradually removing parts from a car and then being shocked that the thing actually fucking breaks down.

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:08:03pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

Does Trump only have one tie?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:11:02pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

That guy always seemed slimy.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:11:07pm

Uhh…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:11:58pm

What were they thinking?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:12:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:14:26pm

re: #182 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:15:20pm

Nanu nanu!

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:16:23pm

re: #90 b.d.

The republicans already passed 50 bills to repeal Obamacare and now they don’t know how to craft one?

They have to be careful that whatever they come up with won’t work. Killing people efficiently isn’t as easy as you might think. The Nazis never did get it right, but Trump and the GOP might.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:16:32pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Uhh…

They have nothing to fear

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:16:41pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

They are afraid the CIA will try to destroy them. Or MI6.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:17:27pm

Great—just what we need:

Breitbart Alumni Launch ‘Populist-Nationalist’ Group
Former Breitbart News reporters are founding a pro-Trump advocacy group.

One idea being kicked around is that donors could receive “Trump Enforcement Posse” or “Trump Enforcement Team” badges, a proposal that encapsulates the group’s ambitions and approach…

Howley and Stockton described a program of “ambush interviews” and “tea-party tactics” designed to enforce cooperation with Trump’s priorities.

theatlantic.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:17:33pm

re: #132 Mattand

As misanthropic and cynical as I can be, I really, really counted on my fellow citizens to reject this monster outright. And they didn’t.

It’s like arguing about the color of the sky with someone who insists it’s pink with yellow stripes, and not blue. I just do not how to handle people like that.

Well, that could be a case of color blindness, which does exist.

This is plain being blind to reality.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:17:39pm

re: #186 De Kolta Chair

I wonder the UK is pressing on Ecuador now.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:17:41pm

re: #172 Mattand

Yeah, that’s the stuff I worry about. Much of this election was about white people seeking vengeance they think they were owed.

It doesn’t even have to be race. I mean, the Serbs & Bosnians may have different religions and somewhat different cultures, but both groups are white South Slavic Eastern Europeans. If you placed a Bosniak & a Serb next to each other who were dressed the same and neither one spoke, I’m fairly certain it would be impossible to tell them apart.

It’s the nationality crap and deciding that your neighbor isn’t a Real Whatever™ because whatever (wrong political party, wrong religion, etc.)

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:19:17pm

re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus

I thought it was deliberate - as in he was ducking his constituents, with the bonus that it sounds similar to “fucking”

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:19:45pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

My message for president-elect Trump is a devout wish that he disappear up his enormous rectum while delivering his inauguration ‘speech’.

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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:20:32pm

re: #180 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It’s almost like they’re expecting someone to kill them. I wonder who is encouraging that belief?

I bet it is someone who would benefit from their deaths. I bet it is someone with ready access to polonium.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:21:44pm

re: #194 I cannot.

It’s almost like they’re expecting someone to kill them. I wonder who is encouraging that belief?

I bet it is someone who would benefit from their deaths. I bet it is someone with ready access to polonium.

I think the idiots at Wikileaks remain useful to Russia, so they are in no immediate danger.

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unproven innocence  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:22:40pm

re: #191 CuriousLurker

It doesn’t even have to be race. I mean, the Serbs & Bosnians may have different religions and somewhat different cultures, but both groups are white South Slavic Eastern Europeans. If you placed a Bosniak & a Serb next to each other who were dressed the same and neither one spoke, I’m fairly certain it would be impossible to tell them apart.

It’s the nationality crap and deciding that your neighbor isn’t a Real Whatever™ because whatever (wrong political party, wrong religion, etc.)

It’s just tribalism writ large. And LOUD, 24/7/365.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:24:35pm

re: #196 unproven innocence

It’s just tribalism writ large. And LOUD, 24/7/365.

Indeed. US evangelical support for Trump did not appear to be materially reduced by Trump’s sleazy ways. The man has been an animal for decades.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:24:35pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:24:38pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

My message for president-elect Trump is a devout wish that he disappear up his enormous rectum while delivering his inauguration ‘speech’.

Seconded.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:25:09pm

Increased agricultural yields, libtards!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:27:30pm

re: #196 unproven innocence

It’s just tribalism writ large. And LOUD, 24/7/365.

Basically, yeah—Afghanistan without the turbans & beards. 😒

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:27:33pm

re: #200 De Kolta Chair

May he enjoy a bout of ciguatera.
sun-sentinel.com

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:28:05pm

re: #200 De Kolta Chair

We’ve covered Happer here before, years ago. He’s a well known tool. Unfortunately, being tenured means he’s never really had to account for his shenanigans. Years ago he did legitimate nuclear physics and has taught many graduate students over the decades. He’s a classic case of what long ago I labeled “gone emeriti”.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:29:38pm

re: #202 jaunte

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:29:42pm

What anti-semitism on the right?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:32:50pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Does Trump only have one tie?

Yes, but it’s a really long tie, like his penis.

(Sorry ‘bout that imagery)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:35:19pm

Trump probably has a closet full of red ties and MAGA hats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:35:25pm

re: #206 De Kolta Chair

Yes, but it’s a really long tie, like his imaginary penis.

(Sorry ‘bout that imagery)

FTFY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:35:54pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:36:25pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:36:40pm

re: #205 gocart mozart

What anti-semitism on the right?

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Gah, what a disgusting dirtbag. *spit*

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Time to take a break for a while. Later, lizards.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:40:53pm

re: #210 De Kolta Chair

Something tells me he’s on Milo’s dream list…

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:41:52pm

re: #188 BeachDem

Great—just what we need:

Breitbart Alumni Launch ‘Populist-Nationalist’ Group
Former Breitbart News reporters are founding a pro-Trump advocacy group.

One idea being kicked around is that donors could receive “Trump Enforcement Posse” or “Trump Enforcement Team” badges, a proposal that encapsulates the group’s ambitions and approach…

Howley and Stockton described a program of “ambush interviews” and “tea-party tactics” designed to enforce cooperation with Trump’s priorities.

theatlantic.com

Do those badges come with or without the brown shirts?

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:42:44pm

re: #210 De Kolta Chair

Typical right-winger. “I don’t like this, so why should anyone else?”

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:43:27pm

re: #191 CuriousLurker

It doesn’t even have to be race. I mean, the Serbs & Bosnians may have different religions and somewhat different cultures, but both groups are white South Slavic Eastern Europeans. If you placed a Bosniak & a Serb next to each other who were dressed the same and neither one spoke, I’m fairly certain it would be impossible to tell them apart.

It’s the nationality crap and deciding that your neighbor isn’t a Real Whatever™ because whatever (wrong political party, wrong religion, etc.)

Hey! I use that example all the time.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:44:35pm
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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:48:54pm

So…that friend I mentioned earlier, the one that had gone full Trump/gab.ai and all the other crazy crap? I went further back in her timeline, and found pizzagate, I suppose I shouldn’t have been surprised, but jeeze.

But the big find was a picture of Milo reading her book in his bathtub of blood.

O_O

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:49:58pm

re: #216 De Kolta Chair

It should be clear by now that Trump plans to destroy every function of the government other than the military industrial complex.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:51:47pm

re: #216 De Kolta Chair

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Time to trot out “They’re black, so it can’t be racist”, alongside “Blacks are the REAL racists!” and “You said racism! That means you’re the racist!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:52:34pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

It should be clear by now that Trump plans to destroy every function of the government other than the military industrial complex.

No, he’s working on that one too with his tweets about replacing the F35 with the ‘differently abled’ F18.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:53:50pm

re: #217 I cannot.

So…that friend I mentioned earlier, the one that had gone full Trump/gab.ai and all the other crazy crap? I went further back in her timeline, and found pizzagate, I suppose I shouldn’t have been surprised, but jeeze.

But the big find was a picture of Milo reading her book in his bathtub of blood.

O_O

I suppose I’d be an awful person to daydream about it being his own blood…..

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:53:51pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

Time to trot out “They’re black, so it can’t be racist”, alongside “Blacks are the REAL racists!” and “You said racism! That means you’re the racist!”

Remember, from now on it’s “the blacks.”

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:54:32pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

Dictators love the military. He’s just soliciting bribes from the contractors to allow them to keep bilking the government. He wants a cut, that’s all.

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I cannot.  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:55:52pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

You would be an awful person to daydream that. So would I, but it didn’t stop me from doing so.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:57:22pm

Emily Flake

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:57:53pm

I also don’t like to indulge in violent ideation, but what Breitbart shock troops who want to ambush politicians and harass them to keep them in line will find, I think, is that Trump supporters are in a minority and that there are some members of the anti-Trump community who will be glad to curb stomp them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 2:57:53pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

No, he’s working on that one too with his tweets about replacing the F35 with the ‘differently abled’ F18.

and his picks for Secretary of the Army and Secretary of the Navy, neither having any government of military experience. But they are RICH and SUCCESSFUL!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:06:52pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:08:40pm

— Curiosity Rover (@MarsCuriosity) January 12, 2017

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:09:11pm

re: #228 De Kolta Chair

[If Republicans repeal the #ACA, pregnancy could be considered a pre-existing condition]

So pro-life.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:11:44pm
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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:12:41pm

From these two truly beautiful people to an angry yam and a godbotherer. I can’t stop crying.

In the interview with CNN, the vice president said he had told Obama over one of their regular private lunches that if his son Beau were forced to step down his position as Delaware’s attorney general and lose his income because of the brain cancer that ultimately killed him, the vice president and his wife Jill would have to sell their home to pay for Beau’s medical expenses.

He said Obama told him not to do that.

“He said ‘I’ll give you the money. Whatever you need, I’ll give you the money. Don’t, Joe. Promise me. Promise me,’” Biden told CNN.

washingtonpost.com

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:12:49pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:13:57pm

re: #232 BeachDem

something in my eye all of a sudden

edit: The difference between the Obamas and Bidens and the PutinPuppet is so unbelievably vast, in so many dimensions, we need a new branch of science to describe it.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:17:09pm

Somebody had to say it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:17:29pm

re: #232 BeachDem

Whereas Trump would have said “I’m sorry to hear that but I can get you a great deal on rent at Trump Tower after you sell your place.”

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:19:51pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Whereas Trump would have said “I’m sorry to hear that but I can get you a great deal on rent at Trump Tower after you sell your place.”

No, Trump would have said “You were never very nice to me. I hope you lose your house and your son dies.”

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:20:22pm

re: #234 Jebediah, RBG

something in my eye all of a sudden

edit: The difference between the Obamas and Bidens and the PutinPuppet is so unbelievably vast, in so many dimensions, we need a new branch of science to describe it.

That story really got me—I just can’t stop crying. Damn it all.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:20:40pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

And the “great deal” would be 125% higher than market on an apartment that is not as big or nice as described.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:22:17pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Whereas Trump would have said “I’m sorry to hear that but I can get you a great deal on rent at Trump Tower after you sell your place.”

Whereupon he would make a bid deal of it saying: “I’ve got a big heart. Maybe the biggest ever…people will tell you that. So, I am going to allow Joe to live at Trump Tower for free!*

*Free for one full month. “After that he pays like everyone else. What? You want a free benefit? Trump doesn’t do anything for free. This I can tell you.”

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:22:59pm

re: #234 Jebediah, RBG

I still want to believe that we somehow got transported into an alternate universe. The versions of us in the other universe are counting down the minutes and hours to celebrating the inauguration of our first female President.

That and her popular vote win are keeping my head above water.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:28:11pm

re: #238 BeachDem

Lately I have been mostly numb. I really can’t understand or accept that after having eight years to see how a President can be - how he (or she, someday soon I hope) can make huge efforts to help ALL of us, while being incredibly gracious while having buckets of racist slime flung at him and a legion of Congressional assholes trying to stop everything he wants to do, how a really smart, hardworking man like Obama can still get stuff done - so many of us really wanted to let such a malign, transparently fraudulent sociopathic incompetent soil the office of the President.
There isn’t enough booze or weed to get me through inaugurination day. Fuck.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:28:33pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:29:19pm

re: #241 Moebym

AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR UNIVERSE!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:34:38pm

Clay Bennett

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:34:42pm

this is going to be one of my all time favorite tweets:

(can you hear Joe saying: “Barack, it’s OK to say “big fucking deal” now”….)

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:35:14pm

re: #241 Moebym

I still want to believe that we somehow got transported into an alternate universe. The versions of us in the other universe are counting down the minutes and hours to celebrating the inauguration of our first female President.

That and her popular vote win are keeping my head above water.

I ponder the Scottish insults vs. Trump and try to do better. So far I haven’t come up with anything good.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:36:40pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:38:35pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:41:01pm

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

All the Republican sociopaths are proudly showing their true nature. It’s as if all the cockroaches in the world started running toward light instead of away from it.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:42:54pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

It should be clear by now that Trump plans to destroy every function of the government other than the military industrial complex.

Don’t count on that. Just ask Lockheed/Martin and the F-35 program and Boeing and AF 1

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:44:00pm

“…A guard spokesman, Maj. Byron Coward, said Friday that Maj. Gen. Errol Schwartz will be stepping down at 12:01 p.m. on Jan. 20, just after Trump is sworn in…”

“…Schwartz told The Washington Post in an interview “the timing is very unusual” but that he’s following orders.

“I’m a soldier,” he told the newspaper, adding that he has not been told why he was asked to step down… “

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:46:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:49:12pm

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:50:01pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

ORGASMS ARE FOR CLOSERS!

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:50:49pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

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You have just got to believe that the poor are less than human. That makes it easier.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:52:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:53:31pm

re: #253 Jebediah, RBG

jeebus, braindead Matt is STILL going on about the $9 birth control? That’s from 2012 at Target.
And everybody knows there’s a Target pharmacy within reasonable distance and yeah, I’m sure it’s still $9 a month (ignore the fact that you need to pay for a doctor’s office visit to get the prescription every three months).

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:55:19pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

But addressing the issue honestly makes it harder to come up with “clever” quips mocking the stupid poors.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:57:02pm

re: #259 Jebediah, RBG

But addressing the issue honestly makes it harder to come up with “clever” quips mocking the stupid poors.

Mocking the stupid poors is the whole point of the exercise for Republicans. It helps increase public support for some kind of final solution to such issues.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:57:31pm

re: #188 BeachDem

Great—just what we need:

Breitbart Alumni Launch ‘Populist-Nationalist’ Group
Former Breitbart News reporters are founding a pro-Trump advocacy group.

One idea being kicked around is that donors could receive “Trump Enforcement Posse” or “Trump Enforcement Team” badges, a proposal that encapsulates the group’s ambitions and approach…

Howley and Stockton described a program of “ambush interviews” and “tea-party tactics” designed to enforce cooperation with Trump’s priorities.

theatlantic.com

Shit, they’ll be recruiting from the comments section of Breitbart.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 3:59:38pm

this is fine

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:00:01pm

re: #106 Scottish Dragon

Yes, I just came back to the page. The arby ad plays though a couple dozen times it seems and then another ad starts that will let me finally hit pause, which I just did. The Arby’s ad is really fucking aggressive about not being paused or stopped at all.

OK, well, that’s frustrating. It looks like it’s coming in through Google Adsense then, since that’s the only network that was still enabled. The bad thing about that: Google has nobody you can get in touch with about stuff like this.

They have an “Ad Review Center” that lets you look through all the ads that are set to run at your site, but it takes forever to go through them all, and searching for Arby’s turned up nothing. These kinds of abusive ads deliberately make themselves hard to find, but I’ll keep looking.

If you can right-click on the ad while it’s playing and select “Inspect Element,” you may be able to see the URL it’s coming from.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:01:55pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know! I know!
Because that’s what assholes do. And they are just so proud of themselves when they do it.

To be fair to the guy, the DMV refused to provide basic information which was covered under Virginia’s FOIA. When the guy sued for the information, the Attorney General’s Office gave him the requested information the day of the first court hearing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:02:32pm

re: #262 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Yeah…
But it’s not a real poll, like a twitter poll…
//

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:03:09pm

There are more great ones available for your perusal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:06:01pm

re: #264 Timothy Watson

To be fair to the guy, the DMV refused to provide basic information which was covered under Virginia’s FOIA. When the guy sued for the information, the Attorney General’s Office gave him the requested information the day of the first court hearing.

Still an asshole. DMV wasn’t inconvenienced by this stunt, the regular everyday workers were.

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:08:55pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:09:12pm

Gotta say, I’m with Mavis here

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:11:26pm

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:11:54pm

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

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It fucking sums up the Conservative attitudes toward life in America. Don’t drain me, brah.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:13:11pm

re: #269 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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blueraven  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:15:07pm

Stay classy Biloxi!

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CleverToad  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:15:21pm

Went to my first meeting of the Resistance last night — our local county Dems are trying to get organized in response to the upcoming crises. The original location had to be changed because it only held 80 people; we wound up with about 150, in a traditionally Republican suburb.

I don’t know how this will turn out, but it’s surely worth the effort. One of the initiatives is setting up smaller teams to research specific issues so we can spread the word to the larger group. Trying to give specific, focused talking points to contact our congress critters about (fed & state). I’m on the nascent “Environment” team, in the Public Lands subsection. So far, I’ve put together one quick document on the rule change that set the value of public lands as “budget-neutral” to make it easier to sell ‘em off.

Trying to think of suggestions for rally signs — “This land is OUR land” and maybe “Not for sale” posted over a picture of Rocky Mountain Natl Park.

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MsJ  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:15:32pm
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JasonA  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:16:51pm

re: #264 Timothy Watson

To be fair to the guy, the DMV refused to provide basic information which was covered under Virginia’s FOIA. When the guy sued for the information, the Attorney General’s Office gave him the requested information the day of the first court hearing.

DMVs have call centers to answer questions like the ones he had.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:17:20pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

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And tweeted.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:19:12pm

re: #252 FormerDirtDart

“…A guard spokesman, Maj. Byron Coward, said Friday that Maj. Gen. Errol Schwartz will be stepping down at 12:01 p.m. on Jan. 20, just after Trump is sworn in…”

“…Schwartz told The Washington Post in an interview “the timing is very unusual” but that he’s following orders.

“I’m a soldier,” he told the newspaper, adding that he has not been told why he was asked to step down… “

I read that and immediately started thinking that we may have a Kent State by 12:06. Who knows what the fuck Trump’s new guy will order.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:19:24pm

re: #269 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Gotta say, I’m with Mavis here

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Agreed. Trump voters are barely human. I have no desire to relate to that kind of bigot or willfully self-deluded fool.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:20:03pm
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MsJ  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:22:05pm

re: #278 stpaulbear

I read that and immediately started thinking that we may have a Kent State by 12:06. Who knows what the fuck Trump’s new guy will order.

Putin needs a clear path to move “goods”.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:23:04pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Because fucking is the cheapest form of entertainment humans have at their disposal. Rich people have many options & real dates cost money.

Post this song to his timeline. He probably likes it but has never listened to the words.

Pulp - Common People

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:25:54pm

re: #274 CleverToad

Went to my first meeting of the Resistance last night — our local county Dems are trying to get organized in response to the upcoming crises. The original location had to be changed because it only held 80 people; we wound up with about 150, in a traditionally Republican suburb.

I don’t know how this will turn out, but it’s surely worth the effort. One of the initiatives is setting up smaller teams to research specific issues so we can spread the word to the larger group. Trying to give specific, focused talking points to contact our congress critters about (fed & state). I’m on the nascent “Environment” team, in the Public Lands subsection. So far, I’ve put together one quick document on the rule change that set the value of public lands as “budget-neutral” to make it easier to sell ‘em off.

Trying to think of suggestions for rally signs — “This land is OUR land” and maybe “Not for sale” posted over a picture of Rocky Mountain Natl Park.

I just got invited to a local woman’s march with Planned Parenthood next Saturday. I’m gathering a group to join us.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:26:59pm

re: #282 stpaulbear

Crap. They cut the words “…and screw.” out of that video. That kind of wrecks it.

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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:28:25pm

re: #283 Stanley Sea

You, go, Stanley! Let the battle begin!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:28:35pm

re: #278 stpaulbear

I read that and immediately started thinking that we may have a Kent State by 12:06. Who knows what the fuck Trump’s new guy will order.

The thing is, there is no Trump new guy. There can’t be, since Trump can’t approve someone until he is actually President.
At 12:01 PM Friday 20 January, 2017 the USA will not have any Ambassador, in any country on the planet.
No Presidential appointee will continue to serve in their position.
Only those people that were placed in positions that have a contract term of appointment will remain.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:29:16pm

Reminder:

The people telling other folks to “be an adult” were happy to plunge into conspiracy theories that required a multi-generational international plot to fake the citizenship of a black child so that child could grow up, become US President, and destroy America.

…and to applaud the complete grinding stop of the normal function of the US executive office…

…and entertain myriad wild theorems about Hillary Clinton being a murderous lesbian dying of seven different kind of brain illness…

…and that everybody that isn’t like them is part of the Grand Unified Degeneracy, where Shariah, gayness, and excessive fondness for French literature are all signs of dastardly un-American treachery being fomented by globalists.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:32:35pm

Who the fuck cares? I mean really, who?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:33:16pm
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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:33:17pm

re: #286 FormerDirtDart

The thing is, there is no Trump new guy. There can’t be, since Trump can’t approve someone until he is actually President.
At 12:01 PM Friday 20 January, 2017 the USA will not have any Ambassador, in any country on the planet.
No Presidential appointee will continue to serve in their position.
Only those people that were placed in positions that have a contract term of appointment will remain.

Actually we’ll still have 60% or so of our ambassadors as they aren’t all political appointees.

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:36:12pm

re: #287 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Reminder:

The people telling other folks to “be an adult” were happy to plunge into conspiracy theories that required a multi-generational international plot to fake the citizenship of a black child so that child could grow up, become US President, and destroy America.

…and to applaud the complete grinding stop of the normal function of the US executive office…

…and entertain myriad wild theorems about Hillary Clinton being a murderous lesbian dying of seven different kind of brain illness…

…and that everybody that isn’t like them is part of the Grand Unified Degeneracy, where Shariah, gayness, and excessive fondness for French literature are all signs of dastardly un-American treachery being fomented by globalists.

Anything to distract from the provable fact that Trump voters cast a shitty vote for a shitty candidate from a shitty party.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:44:57pm

Given the nature of Trump’s approval ratings, which have been mimicking the final plunge of the Titanic for the past two months, one begins to wonder if all the “Stop being mean to Trump voters!” bit is a defense mechanism by this point, millions of people realizing they made a monstrous mistake and now wanting people to just act like it never happened.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:45:11pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The phrase ‘doomed to fail’ comes to mind.

We need an independent prosecutor, but we’ll never get one.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:45:45pm

re: #292 Targetpractice

Or like it isn’t their fucking fault.

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Moebym  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:46:28pm

re: #274 CleverToad

I went to two meetings of local groups that formed after Pantsuit Nation decided to become a non-profit focused on storytelling rather than activism, but the resistance here seems disorganized compared to yours. The original splinter group itself splintered into two groups over a disagreement between two group leaders on their approaches to activism. I filled out an information sheet and wrote down the “committees” that I wanted to join, but so far haven’t heard back.

I’m not very confident, at least with regard to local resistance efforts.

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blueraven  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:46:34pm

re: #273 blueraven

Stay classy Biloxi!

In case it is not clear…Monday is MLK day.

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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:47:58pm

re: #296 blueraven

Bastards

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:48:43pm

re: #294 Jebediah, RBG

Or like it isn’t their fucking fault.

What annoys me are the attempts to say Trump voters “were pushed” to vote that way. Uh no. They chose to embrace a bigot. I’m sorry but I don’t have any sympathy for people who chose to embrace a profoundly unqualified bigoted asshole for President because they have a problem with political correctness. And nevermind the fact that Trump is a much bigger baby than any of those college students they love to whine about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:49:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:49:14pm

re: #297 prairiefire

Bastards

We still have Lee-Jackson-King day here in VA. That’s always made me uncomfortable.

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:50:14pm

re: #296 blueraven

In case it is not clear…Monday is MLK day.

So, they’re saying MLK was a great American? Progress!
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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:50:54pm

re: #292 Targetpractice

Given the nature of Trump’s approval ratings, which have been mimicking the final plunge of the Titanic for the past two months, one begins to wonder if all the “Stop being mean to Trump voters!” bit is a defense mechanism by this point, millions of people realizing they made a monstrous mistake and now wanting people to just act like it never happened.

I will treat a Trump voter like an equal adult when they admit they fucked up and at least ask how to fix things, though it will be better if they offer up what they plan to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:52:36pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:53:09pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

A spokesman for Nadler confirmed the congressman pressed Comey on the issue.

Just one reason Jerry can rely on my vote every two years.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:53:26pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

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States rights. //

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:54:38pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:54:42pm

re: #269 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Bob looks like a real dick.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:54:51pm

You know what though, I remember when employers talked about actually firing their employees who voted for Obama. So no I don’t feel too bad for the Trump supporters who don’t like that their non-Trump supporting friends and families may be giving them a cold shoulder. We try warning you guys over Trump and you just dismissed us as stupid libtards.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:56:49pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

What annoys me are the attempts to say Trump voters “were pushed” to vote that way. Uh no. They chose to embrace a bigot. I’m sorry but I don’t have any sympathy for people who chose to embrace a profoundly unqualified bigoted asshole for President because they have a problem with political correctness. And nevermind the fact that Trump is a much bigger baby than any of those college students they love to whine about.

The only thing more pathetic than the “Stop judging me!” response by “indie voters” has been the “I had no choice!” whine. No, sorry, you had a choice and you made it. You had an experienced and level-headed candidate running against a circus clown and you chose the clown because you didn’t “like” the other option. And sorry, but unlike that Christmas sweater you got, you can’t undo the results of your vote for a minimum of 4 years. Perhaps next time when you’re told that you don’t have to like someone to vote for them, you’ll listen.

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CleverToad  Jan 13, 2017 • 4:57:19pm

re: #295 Moebym

As said, this was just the first meeting. However, we have a core of county volunteers who’ve been working together on the campaigns for at least the last eight years, and some longer. We’re also coordinating with representatives of the state Democratic party.

Chapter One. We’ll see how the story plays out.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:00:19pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

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2009-2016: “Laws about abortion should be up to the states, not to a federal bureaucracy that decides what’s best for everyone!”

2017: “Yeah, about that…”

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:02:40pm

Look at these idiots.

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:03:32pm

Trump’s going to give that concrete work to the mafia.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:04:11pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:04:38pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Look at these idiots.

Funny, I can’t help but feel as though I’ve seen a wall like that before…can’t imagine where

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:07:08pm

re: #314 lockjawcanbefun

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Yeah, I don’t see the cantaloupe legs action figures.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:07:43pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wish someone would just chop off his thumbs, or tie his hands behind him, so I didn’t have to see all of those cheesy gestures anymore. Not in the mood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:10:02pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:13:07pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Look at these idiots.

Where does he keep his concentration camp model?

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:16:33pm

re: #312 jaunte

Excellent Trump appointment for Secretary of Homeland Security, General John Kelly & I discuss border security with my wall model on table.

Spinal Tap - 18” Stonehenge

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b.d.  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:17:09pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Look at these idiots.

But Donald promised us a beautiful wall.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:18:46pm
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Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:21:34pm

Night Lizards. In less than 7 days the world will pass judgement upon us. Let us hope it is favorable.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:22:24pm

re: #314 lockjawcanbefun

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:24:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:26:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:26:54pm

oops…

Conal Footwear apologized and recalled a line of boots after a viral image showed they left swastika imprints…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:27:08pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:28:11pm

re: #323 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. In less than 7 days the world will pass judgement upon us. Let us hope it is favorable.

Seven days from today is when the fuckton of shit hits the main turbine of Air Force One.

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:28:27pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Canis Lupus District” LOL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:29:26pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:31:56pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If the Democrats ever get power back, I want the GOP crushed out of existence forever.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:32:39pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nothing says “economic anxiety” quite like trying to ram through every social policy bill you can in the first couple weeks of the new congressional session.

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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:33:26pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:34:30pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:35:00pm

“…During a 2014 appearance on CNBC, Happer suggested that “the demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler.” …”

“…The physicist has also received funding from the fossil fuel industry to produce reports that aim to cast doubt on climate change. A 2015 undercover investigation lead by Greenpeace revealed Happer agreed to produce a report with a fee of $250 an hour that he wanted donated to the CO2 Coalition, a climate-skeptic organization, according to the Guardian.

Happer also acknowledged that the report would likely “not pass peer-review with a scientific journal.” Likewise, in a 2015 testimony for the Senate Subcommittee on Space, Science, and Competitiveness, Happer argued, the “benefits that more [carbon dioxide] brings from increased agricultural yields and modest warming far outweigh any harm.”…”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:35:31pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:35:35pm
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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:35:52pm

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

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WTF?

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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:37:24pm

re: #333 Targetpractice

Nothing says “economic anxiety” quite like trying to ram through every social policy bill you can in the first couple weeks of the new congressional session.

So be it. Perhaps it will teach people that they need to consistently vote against Republicans if they want reproductive choice.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:37:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:41:06pm
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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:43:55pm

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

oops…

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Even odds that Dr. Martens steals the design?

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:45:14pm

re: #335 gocart mozart

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One wonders how many will get that reference…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:49:37pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:50:16pm

To be read in Dr Seuss cadence:

In a land where the states are united, they claim,
in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.

This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.

He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.

And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
I will make their America great once again!”

The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
“They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”

And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.

And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up shit.

And the media laughed but they printed each line,
thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.

And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
petrified that their freedom was under attack,
trusting Trump he would take their America back.
From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
all his lies about making America great.

Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
and a lie became truth she could never defend.
And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.

And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.

And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.

But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
terrified to learn he had to actually work,
work for every American, not just for a few,
not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stayAnd the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.

And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
for America was already more than quite great,
not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
be the greatness that makes our America great.
And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
over two and a half million more of us—voted for her.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:51:12pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

I never liked 3 Doors Down, but now I really fucking don’t like them

Not surprised. They were big W supporters, too.

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becominginvisible  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:51:40pm

re: #290 calochortus

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:53:03pm

Been showing some love to our “Email an Article” feature today, refactoring the code to use MJML - a freaking awesome framework that creates HTML emails that can be viewed on any mobile or desktop device and look great. I was going nuts trying to account for all the weirdnesses in the many email clients out there - MJML takes all the heartache away.

mjml.io

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:53:40pm

re: #348 becominginvisible

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:56:05pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:57:35pm

Drew Dernavich

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:58:09pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 13, 2017 • 5:58:32pm

re: #347 makeitstop

Not surprised. They were big W supporters, too.

W Bush and his merry band of meatheads, dipshits and zealots are going to look like a gathering of philosopher-kings compared to Trump and his sociopaths.

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becominginvisible  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:00:46pm

re: #350 calochortus

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wheat-dogg  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:02:21pm

re: #354 EPR-radar

W Bush and his merry band of meatheads, dipshits and zealots are going to look like a gathering of philosopher-kings compared to Trump and his sociopaths.

Even Reagan’s crew were semi-normal (Except maybe James Watt). They at least respected the office of the President and the American system of government. Trump and his lackeys seem determined to replace the presidency with a CEO and an unelected board of directors chosen by the CEO, and turn the USA into a third-rate African dictatorship.

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:03:05pm

re: #355 becominginvisible

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:03:21pm

Dinner time. BBL

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:07:26pm

Well, The Stand is over.

What a wonderful day I had.

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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:10:00pm

re: #359 Stanley Sea

The book or a movie?

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:11:16pm

re: #344 William Lewis

One wonders how many will get that reference…

Which reference: the DK lyric or the Brazil Twitter name? Both appropriate.

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becominginvisible  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:11:19pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:11:54pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Look at these idiots.

Wait - seriously?

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:15:11pm

re: #361 Grunthos the Flatulent

Which reference: the DK lyric or the Brazil Twitter name? Both appropriate.

Good point, though my comment was to the DK lyric in it’s varied permutations.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:16:48pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

Was it Natalie Maines that just said that whoever plays the Trump inauguration should get paid at least six figures because they’ll never get hired again (I’m paraphrasing)? Google is not coming through for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:19:11pm

re: #341 Charles Johnson

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I don’t think there’s been anything like this. Maybe the election of 1876 but Hayes wasn’t very likely to be beholden to a foreign government. Man this is bad and it all could have been avoided. Even if we do elect a Dem in 2020, it’s going to take a lot of work to repair the damage Trump caused simply by being elected.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:19:50pm

re: #360 prairiefire

The book or a movie?

A channel called “Chiller” broadcast the entire mini series today. I watched it all!!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:25:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:27:55pm

dailykos.com
This is awesome.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:28:57pm

I had some Amazon orders arriving this week and I was concerned that packages were being stolen off my porch (a couple of orders have gone missing this fall/winter and the neighborhood Facebook group has been griping about the issue), so I went online and put a hold on my mail from 1/13 thru 1/17, then I added 1/12 to the hold the next day.

I came home on 1/12 and there were letters and a package in my mailbox. I figured that they didn’t get the change in time so I was OK with it. Today I checked the mailbox and there was a bunch of mail and a package. Along with the mail was a letter-sized printout with the Hold Mail Request and a handwritten “He changed date” with an arrow pointing to the ‘begin Thu 01/12/2017” instructions.

Now my mailman doesn’t even know that he’s supposed to hold tomorrow’s mail too. Luckily I already got the two packages and they weren’t stolen off my porch.

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:31:21pm

For those who like such things, there is a free omnibus edition of Conan The Barbarian available free for Kindle.

amazon.com

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:38:53pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

What the hey?????

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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:52:37pm

re: #367 Stanley Sea

That’s a good one.

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fern01  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:26:50pm

re: #278 stpaulbear

I read that and immediately started thinking that we may have a Kent State by 12:06. Who knows what the fuck Trump’s new guy will order.

Ban the march on the 21st probably the first order of the day

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:47:41pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

And he wasn’t at all hiding who and what he is! No research required - every fucking campaign event, he revealed all you needed to know about him.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:05:21pm

re: #346 Eric The Fruit Bat

awesome!

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SirMixALot  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:22:51am

re: #346 Eric The Fruit Bat

To be read in Dr Seuss cadence:

In a land where the states are united, they claim,
in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.

This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.

He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.

And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
I will make their America great once again!”

The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
“They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”

And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.

And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up shit.

And the media laughed but they printed each line,
thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.

And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
petrified that their freedom was under attack,
trusting Trump he would take their America back.
From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
all his lies about making America great.

Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
and a lie became truth she could never defend.
And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.

And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.

And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.

But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
terrified to learn he had to actually work,
work for every American, not just for a few,
not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stayAnd the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.

And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
for America was already more than quite great,
not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
be the greatness that makes our America great.
And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
over two and a half million more of us—voted for her.

I am posting this on my FB. Giving you credit of course.


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