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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:34:09pm

No scorn is anything like white scorn. LOL Oh the hum… oh the huge ego…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:39:51pm

It really annoys me when other whites want to make “cracker” or “honky” out to be the equivalent of the n-word. Sorry words do have meaning and context. And that word was used for generations to justify a system of white supremacy. We’re never going to get anywhere as a society until certain groups acknowledge that they may have some societal advantages that other ones don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:43:47pm

I mean I’m sorry Bice was treated rudely but what he experienced really pales in comparison to what a lot of people of color go through. And as Bee noted, the employee was in fact suspended.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:49:53pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Yes, this entitled piece of shit managed to get a fast food worker suspended with his public whining, destroying her livelihood and spreading who knows how much misery. Bo Bice is a major asshole.

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TedStriker  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:51:47pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Yes, this entitled piece of shit managed to get a fast food worker suspended with his public whining, destroying her livelihood and spreading who knows how much misery. Bo Bice is a major asshole.

Bo who?

/sorta

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:51:50pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Yes, this entitled piece of shit managed to get a fast food worker suspended with his public whining, destroying her livelihood and spreading who knows how much misery. Bo Bice is a major asshole.

Seriously and the pathetic crocodile tears and lectures about how “we should be ashamed of ourselves.” He certainly didn’t need to go to Facebook and the media to bitch about it and get her suspended.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:52:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:52:46pm

re: #5 TedStriker

Bo who?

/sorta

The only Bo I know is knows. Sorry lame humor. But yeah I had forgotten about him. I mean what a damn brat.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:54:02pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

“This time, we should try for all the scandals all at once.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:56:35pm

re: #5 TedStriker

Bo who?

/sorta

Never ever heard the name until this thread.

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teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2017 • 6:58:12pm
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TedStriker  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:02:09pm

re: #10 Unshaken Defiance

Never ever heard the name until this thread.

I had to Wiki him to refresh myself that Bice had been one of the more successful American Idol runner-ups a few years back.

Just one more thing to string Simon Cowell up by his nuts for.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:03:20pm

re: #12 TedStriker

I had to Wiki him to refresh myself that he had been one of the more successful American Idol runner-ups

I only honestly remember him since Family Guy weirdly referenced him. Mayor West: “Am I Bo Bice? Yes I am!”

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:05:29pm

Since it seems I ended up at the dead end of the last thread, I’ll just repost this here.

For those who like such things, there is a free omnibus edition of Conan The Barbarian available free for Kindle. Looks like a nice edition. I really forgot there were so many Conan books out there and this has all of them.

amazon.com

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MsJ  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:10:47pm

re: #14 William Lewis

Thanks!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:11:55pm

I keep reading him as Boring Rice.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:13:27pm

Now playing on my Amazon cloud. Love this version of this song, and I need something positive for a few minutes.

Take A Giant Step Taj Mahal

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:14:07pm

re: #16 Unshaken Defiance

I keep reading him as Boring Rice.

Which as a white guy myself I might just adopt as an insult aimed at obnoxious bad white people in general.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:15:14pm

And, the week can’t end until we hear from the Flat Earthers…

And, there we go…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:18:01pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

And, the week can’t end until we hear from the Flat Earthers…

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And, there we go…

There’s how a guy like Trump can be elected. We’re literally taught the world is round and not flat from an early age.

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:26:53pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

It really annoys me when other whites want to make “cracker” or “honky” out to be the equivalent of the n-word. Sorry words do have meaning and context. And that word was used for generations to justify a system of white supremacy. We’re never going to get anywhere as a society until certain groups acknowledge that they may have some societal advantages that other ones don’t.

If you really wanna offend your average white person, don’t use “cracker” or “honky”. Use the r-word.

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:28:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:28:42pm

re: #22 jaunte

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Shocker.

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JasonA  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:30:17pm

re: #22 jaunte

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oh wow i cannot believe it

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:32:19pm

re: #22 jaunte

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Dance, puppet, dance.

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:32:52pm

re: #21 No Depression

If you really wanna offend your average white person, don’t use “cracker” or “honky”. Use the r-word.

Retroreflective?

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:32:52pm

re: #25 scottslemmons

Dance, puppet, dance.

I feel jerked around, for sure.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:33:51pm

re: #25 scottslemmons

Dance, puppet, dance.

No puppet. No puppet.
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JasonA  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:35:29pm

Nice to see so many Never-Trump Republicans, but can they drop the stupid “This is why you lost” shit? Did Democrats do that in ‘08 and ‘12?

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:36:49pm

re: #29 JasonA

Nice to see so many Never-Trump Republicans, but can they drop the stupid “This is why you lost” shit? Did Democrats do that in ‘08 and ‘12?

Who did they vote for, if there are so many of them???

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:38:06pm

re: #30 retired cynic

Who did they vote for, if there are so many of them???

Yep.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:39:18pm

D.C. National Guard Commander Told To Step Down On Inauguration Day

Rumors are going around that this has something to do with the Women’s March on Washington on the 21st.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:41:32pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

Makes sense. Worried. Guess we’ll see.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:45:36pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

D.C. National Guard Commander Told To Step Down On Inauguration Day

Rumors are going around that this has something to do with the Women’s March on Washington on the 21st.

Oh boy if true.

Fuckers have no idea.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:46:45pm

Methinks Bo Bice is looking for attention.

Does he have a crappy album out to sell or something?

I never watched Idol, but the people where I worked did and I’d hear about them and see them covered on TV. Bice I think lost the show to Carrie Underwood.

I think she has the career Bice wanted. “Hey ‘member me!!! I almost beat Carrie Underwood!!!”

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:47:36pm

Wisconsin’s PSC also cut climate topics from site

In addition to the Department of Natural Resources, a second state agency has scrubbed information on global warming from its website.

For years, the Public Service Commission featured material devoted to climate change, including strategies designed to reduce Wisconsin’s reliance on coal.

Then, sometime after May 1 last year, the agency eliminated its global warming web page.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel discovered the change when reviewing archived web pages of the DNR and the PSC.

The agencies are the most influential in state government on the subject of climate change because of their role in regulating coal-fired power plants. Coal emissions from power plants are the state’s largest sources of carbon emissions.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:49:07pm

Donald Trump is so obviously out of his depth, over his head, has reached beyond his grasp or call it whatever. But we are about to be more vulnerable to our blood enemies than ever in our lives. He imperils us all.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:50:15pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

There’s how a guy like Trump can be elected. We’re literally taught the world is round and not flat from an early age.

And that is why vaccinations are bad!

Or something.

But it explains a lot!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:51:56pm
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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:53:12pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

Love it!

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:57:16pm

Mr. Trump nominates a non-veteran to be VA Undersecretary of Health, David Shulkin.

After two years of attacking the VAs leadership, he nominates someone who is part of it.

Dr. Shulkin has overseen trying to privatise parts of the VA. Veterans are almost unanimously opposed to that.

npr.org

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b.d.  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:58:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:58:24pm

Baby kidnapped in 1998 found alive and well a few states away

Kamiyah Mobley was kidnapped just hours after her birth at a Florida hospital. Eighteen years later a tip led Jacksonville police to South Carolina where they found Mobley, living under a different name and being raised by her abductor.

Accused abductor is in jail. Sheriff says Kamiyah has “a lot to process.”

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:58:55pm

re: #14 William Lewis

Bought! Thanks. :)

All the old favourites from my teenage years.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:59:31pm

re: #42 b.d.

Rep. Steve King can eat a rusty bag of votes,

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bratwurst  Jan 13, 2017 • 7:59:40pm
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CleverToad  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:00:53pm

re: #14 William Lewis

Since it seems I ended up at the dead end of the last thread, I’ll just repost this here.

For those who like such things, there is a free omnibus edition of Conan The Barbarian available free for Kindle. Looks like a nice edition. I really forgot there were so many Conan books out there and this has all of them.

amazon.com

Thanks, I just got it for my husband. I can afford that price! :)

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:01:00pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

D.C. National Guard Commander Told To Step Down On Inauguration Day

Rumors are going around that this has something to do with the Women’s March on Washington on the 21st.

I’m not sure how it would affect that though. DCNG operations are going to operate as normal. In this particular case, there might not be an underlying strategy to this decision, just Trump being the petty-ass pissbaby we all know and loathe.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:01:17pm

That is a pathetic model. Lap siding painted silver with a wire on top.

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:02:16pm

re: #14 William Lewis

Since it seems I ended up at the dead end of the last thread, I’ll just repost this here.

For those who like such things, there is a free omnibus edition of Conan The Barbarian available free for Kindle. Looks like a nice edition. I really forgot there were so many Conan books out there and this has all of them.

amazon.com

I’ve got a fair number of Robert E. Howard’s books already, including a handful of the Conan books. I’ve been reading Dark Horse Comics’ recent adaptation of the Conan stories recently, and remembering how good they are has been really frustrating me lately about how hard it is to find decent fantasy and science fiction in very small towns.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:02:25pm

re: #48 No Depression

I’m not sure how it would affect that though. DCNG operations are going to operate as normal. In this particular case, there might not be an underlying strategy to this strategy, just Trump being the petty-ass pissbaby we all know and loathe.

However, one of the traits of fascism is to replace military leaders with sycophants who may or may not know how to run the military formations in which they are placed in charge.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:03:20pm

re: #49 Amory Blaine

That is a pathetic model. Lap siding painted silver with a wire on top.

Someone’s grandkid did it for show and tell. //

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:03:21pm

Time: The Bush sisters wrote the Obama Girls a letter.

Malia and Sasha, eight years ago on a cold November day, we greeted you on the steps of the White House. We saw both the light and wariness in your eyes as you gazed at your new home. We left our jobs in Baltimore and New York early and traveled to Washington to show you around. To show you the Lincoln Bedroom, and the bedrooms that were once ours, to introduce you to all the people—the florists, the grounds-keepers and the butlers—who dedicate themselves to making this historic house a home. The four of us wandered the majestic halls of the house you had no choice but to move in to. When you slid down the banister of the solarium, just as we had done as 8-year-olds and again as 20-year-olds chasing our youth, your joy and laughter were contagious.

Read the whole thing.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:03:48pm

re: #51 Anymouse

But they can be counted on to obey orders no matter how illegal or unethical.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:04:00pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:04:28pm

re: #52 retired cynic

Someone’s grandkid did it for show and tell.

Yech. That’s terrible.

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:06:58pm

re: #51 Anymouse

However, one of the traits of fascism is to replace military leaders with sycophants who may or may not know how to run the military formations in which they are placed in charge.

True, and I just remembered that the Million Woman March is happening the day after Inauguration, not the day of, which was the assumption I was operating on when I posted my comment. That probably is what he’s doing. He’s thinking longer-term than the MWM.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:07:15pm

re: #56 Amory Blaine

Yech. That’s terrible.

I just added sarcasm tags!!

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:08:13pm
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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:09:15pm

re: #59 Anymouse

It should get worse. It should shut the whole damn thing down!

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calochortus  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:15:46pm

I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana, Lizards

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:15:52pm

re: #59 Anymouse

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LOCK ‘EM UP.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:16:41pm

re: #42 b.d.

What is that, a border wall FOR ANTS?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:16:54pm

re: #42 b.d.

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Such a low ball price. More like 5 million for that section. & I’m probably low-balling.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:17:34pm
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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:17:48pm

One of the women from my church is going to DC for the march. I have printed up 100 of my pamphlets for her to hand out there.

But this noise about the DC National Guard is disturbing to me as a vet. I pray they are better trained than the Ohio Guard once upon a time…

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:17:49pm
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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:18:27pm

re: #65 Anymouse

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But Obama’s the narcissist…

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:20:06pm

I’m way past the point of despair at this point. I’m fucking angry, y’all!

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:20:49pm

re: #69 No Depression

I’m way past the point of despair at this point. I’m fucking angry, y’all!

I don’t care what it costs. They should stop it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:21:49pm

re: #65 Anymouse

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He autographs a copy with his gold sharpie for all visitors.

Bow down people.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:22:05pm

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:23:59pm

“…Mr Steele also decided to pass on information to both British and American intelligence officials after concluding that such material should not just be in the hands of political opponents of Mr Trump, who had hired his services, but was a matter of national security for both countries.

However, say security sources, Mr Steele became increasingly frustrated that the FBI was failing to take action on the intelligence from others as well as him. He came to believe there was a cover-up, that a cabal within the Bureau blocked a thorough inquiry into Mr Trump, focusing instead on the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:25:30pm

re: #73 jaunte

Oh, really? What a surprise. I should not be coming to a boil at bedtime. Dadgummit.

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:26:15pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Fuck James Comey. Traitorous piece of shit.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:29:08pm

re: #69 No Depression

I’m way past the point of despair at this point. I’m fucking angry, y’all!

I keep reading commentary over at places like Huffington Post from people saying we need “Civil War II.” I am not sure whether these are simply frustrated liberals, or foreign rodent copulators, but a lot of them also use the Calexit hashtag with their comments.

In Civil War I, 600,000 Americans died, the entire South was destroyed, and that was with XIX weaponry. A new such war would make the first look like a walk in the park.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:29:35pm
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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:29:58pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Oh, really? What a surprise. I should not be coming to a boil at bedtime. Dadgummit.

Yeah, this shit is not good for people’s health, even in the abstract.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:30:17pm

re: #66 William Lewis

One of the women from my church is going to DC for the march. I have printed up 100 of my pamphlets for her to hand out there.

But this noise about the DC National Guard is disturbing to me as a vet. I pray they are better trained than the Ohio Guard once upon a time…

Any mention of Kent gets an upding from me…just for remembering.

That whole thing still pisses me off. I was only a sophomore in High School, but being in Ohio I really felt the sting.

I’ve had people argue “those kids got what they deserved” BS all since that time, and I always mention one the guys was in the ROTC program and one of the young women died going from and to another class. They were not even part of the demonstrations.

And then a few years after doing some reading on the shooting, I found the ROTC building that was burned down (???) was scheduled to be torn down anyway.

Fuck Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes and President Dick Nixon.

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Interesting Times  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:30:32pm
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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:31:54pm

re: #76 Anymouse

I’m a 70 year old cripple; I don’t want to see open war. But this cannot have been a legal election! It cannot!

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:32:58pm

re: #76 Anymouse

I keep reading commentary over at places like Huffington Post from people saying we need “Civil War II.” I am not sure whether these are simply frustrated liberals, or foreign rodent copulators, but a lot of them also use the Calexit hashtag with their comments.

In Civil War I, 600,000 Americans died, the entire South was destroyed, and that was with XIX weaponry. A new such war would make the first look like a walk in the park.

I’d probably go with the former. I know Civil War II would be absolutely terrible for this country and am against it, but I totally get the sentiment

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Interesting Times  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:34:39pm

Too bad Obamacare’s been repealed, because it would have covered third-degree burns:

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wheat-dogg  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:35:48pm

re: #50 scottslemmons

I’ve got a fair number of Robert E. Howard’s books already, including a handful of the Conan books. I’ve been reading Dark Horse Comics’ recent adaptation of the Conan stories recently, and remembering how good they are has been really frustrating me lately about how hard it is to find decent fantasy and science fiction in very small towns.

I hope you guys have been following @conansalaryman on Twitter.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:36:46pm

re: #80 Interesting Times

Hey, maybe someone can Tweet him a picture of the Berlin Wall. It was bigger, yuuuger, more classy than his cheesy model.

The GDR used to claim their wall was to keep out people too.

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No Depression  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:37:31pm

re: #83 Interesting Times

Too bad Obamacare’s been repealed, because it would have covered third-degree burns:

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I used to find Olbermann’s persona overly moralizing and obnoxious, but he’s really grown on me over the past year. He’s just the voice of righteous fury we need right now.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:37:56pm

re: #83 Interesting Times

Well, I guess my “Never Trump” senator capitulated.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:39:48pm

re: #87 Anymouse

Only for the good of the country. /

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CleverToad  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:41:41pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

I hope you guys have been following @conansalaryman on Twitter.

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Or there’s this version:

9 to 5 Barbarian

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:42:20pm

re: #88 retired cynic

Only for the good of the country. GOP /

Dr. Ben Sasse graduated with a degree in History from Yale.

He should know how this works (which might be why he’s on Trump’s side now).

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scottslemmons  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:45:27pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

I hope you guys have been following @conansalaryman on Twitter.

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Hell, yes. One of my favorite new parody accounts. :)

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:49:32pm
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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 8:57:56pm

My wife had me take a break to make popcorn.

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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:06:12pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:06:56pm

re: #93 Anymouse

My wife had me take a break to make popcorn.

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I’m starting to wonder what kind of a scene he’s going to make during the inauguration. He’s going to be in freaky defensive mode.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:11:46pm

re: #95 stpaulbear

I’m starting to wonder what kind of a scene he’s going to make during the inauguration. He’s going to be in freaky defensive mode.

What if his lovely supporters in the crowd start yelling ‘lock ‘er up.’ Then what?

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:11:48pm

re: #95 stpaulbear

I’m starting to wonder what kind of a scene he’s going to make during the inauguration. He’s going to be in freaky defensive mode.

It will be yuuuuuge.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:14:16pm

On Betsy DeVos (but it’s okay if you’re a Republican):

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:17:34pm

re: #97 Anymouse

I’m going to be too nervous to watch but I can’t imagine I’ll get any work done that day. There’s a march from the St. Paul Cathedral to the State Capitol on Saturday and I’m planning to take the bus to the Capitol for the rally. I don’t think I should stay at home.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:18:03pm

Irony is dead.

politico.com

On their way to killing Obamacare, Republicans are leaning toward funding up to $9 billion in health care subsidies this year to keep the program afloat — even though they sued the Obama administration to stop those exact payments.

The move is the most significant sign yet that the GOP is serious about propping up Obamacare temporarily to provide a smooth transition to a yet-to-be disclosed Republican replacement.

The irony is deep: Republicans have never voluntarily funded an Obamacare program. This particular subsidy, which covers out-of-pocket health care costs for low-income participants, has been a GOP target since 2014 when House Republicans went to court to argue the White House funded it unconstitutionally. Republicans were exultant last May when the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia ruled in their favor, even though the payments were allowed to continue pending an appeal.

More on Republican hypocrisy at Politico.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:18:49pm

re: #98 Anymouse

Jesus Fucking Christ. These lying scheming assholes. Every one of them.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:22:20pm

re: #99 stpaulbear

I’m going to be too nervous to watch but I can’t imagine I’ll get any work done that day. There’s a march from the St. Paul Cathedral to the State Capitol on Saturday and I’m planning to take the bus to the Capitol for the rally. I don’t think I should stay at home.

I won’t be watching.

There are no such protests within a couple hundred miles of here. Moreover, I still have local government things to do, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support protests.

My concern with such protests is if they either get out-of-hand or some group such as anarchists or others purposely tries to sew discord or violence. That would give our “law and order” GOP a stick with which to beat “lawless liberals” and enact legislation against civil liberties that would be a nightmare.

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teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:23:24pm

This guy has replied to a few Lizards on Twitter with the same damn reply.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:27:20pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

Is who an “ethnic nationalist?”

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teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:29:08pm

re: #104 Anymouse

Is who an “ethnic nationalist?”

Jared Taylor and Ann Coulter.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:30:16pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Jared Taylor and Ann Coulter.

Thanks. Yup, they are. I didn’t know who the tweet was in reference to.

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stpaulbear  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:33:41pm

re: #102 Anymouse

The protest route and capitol grounds in St. Paul are pretty open. I think this can be peaceful. They’re not winding through downtown streets. There are ramps where people could get onto I-94 or I-35E if they wanted to, but I’ll get out of there if it comes to that. The Ramsey County cops were real dicks to the BLM protesters last summer.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:35:15pm
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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:35:30pm

re: #96 retired cynic

What if his lovely supporters in the crowd start yelling ‘lock ‘er up.’ Then what?

Better yet, what if a “not my president” chant breaks out? Or a hearty “fuck you Trump?”

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:37:50pm

re: #107 stpaulbear

The protest route and capitol grounds in St. Paul are pretty open. I think this can be peaceful. They’re not winding through downtown streets. There are ramps where people could get onto I-94 or I-35E if they wanted to, but I’ll get out of there if it comes to that. The Ramsey County cops were real dicks to the BLM protesters last summer.

I am not opposed to protests; they are enshrined as a constitutional right.

What I am concerned about is people with an agenda other than protesting Mr. Trump. If these protests are not very well organised, violence or property damage could occur, giving those that would curtail our right to protest ammunition to do it.

The only problems I saw with the Black Lives Matter movement or Occupy Wall Street were the disorganised nature of the protests; organised protests really need leadership or they will either fail in their goals or be hijacked for someone else’s purposes that are leaders.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:40:16pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon

Steve King is probably too busy writing his new Nuremberg Laws to deport people like me to worry about such things.

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teleskiguy  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:41:39pm

Great Twitter Follow!

@Trump_Regrets

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Stanley Sea  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:46:58pm

Here we have a doggo who has messed up. He was hoping you wouldn’t notice. 11/10 someone help him

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:48:44pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Great Twitter Follow!

@Trump_Regrets

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prairiefire  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:52:45pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

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This guy has replied to a few Lizards on Twitter with the same damn reply.

Now I think these are Russian bots.

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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 9:58:09pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Great Twitter Follow!

@Trump_Regrets

Wheat-dogg linked to a site dedicated to then-and-now Trump supporters’ angry and disillusioned Tweets.
Now I can get a running stream (no pun actually intended).
Like Krusty freebasing Moon rocks, this kind of schadenfreude gets me to normal.
Vielen Danke.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:03:37pm
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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:07:34pm

Off-Topic: My wife discovered a problem with her Website where someone (or many someones) somehow hacked it so it would send spam. Over the past couple days her Website kept hitting a bandwidth limit exceeded error; she would sign up for more, and it would be hit again.

She has now fixed it by making her Website all static pages (she hopes). Apparently the blogging platform was what was hacked, and that was what was sending the spam. She knows her Website wasn’t using so much data that it would be in Alexa’s top fifty or something.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:08:00pm

re: #102 Anymouse

I won’t be watching.

There are no such protests within a couple hundred miles of here. Moreover, I still have local government things to do, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support protests.

My concern with such protests is if they either get out-of-hand or some group such as anarchists or others purposely tries to sew discord or violence. That would give our “law and order” GOP a stick with which to beat “lawless liberals” and enact legislation against civil liberties that would be a nightmare.

Anymouse, I’m really afraid for Hillary and Bill going there. That crowd of Trumpettes is going to yell “lock her up” and I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump had both of them arrested after he took the oath. The crowd of Trumpettes will scream for their blood…

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:09:10pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon

Anymouse, I’m really afraid for Hillary and Bill going there. That crowd of Trumpettes is going to yell “lock her up” and I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump had both of them arrested after he took the oath. The crowd of Trumpettes will scream for their blood…

And, no commander of the DC National Guard. Yikes.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:10:04pm
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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:13:59pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:14:49pm

Friend just alerted me to this post on Daily Kos. Seems Anonymous is now going after Assange. Look at the Anonymous tweetstorm embedded in the post!

dailykos.com

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:15:37pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

D.C. National Guard Commander Told To Step Down On Inauguration Day

Rumors are going around that this has something to do with the Women’s March on Washington on the 21st.

Stonekettle (Jim Wright) just brought this up on FB. It is less than it appears. Yes, the commander’s posting expires at noon on that day. But his resignation is a routine matter. Obama, in fact, refused his resignation in both 2008 and 2012. I can believe that the transition team doesn’t realize the optics (and why should they, if they take after their CIC?)

This is probably not much. There’ll be something else along shortly to terrify me.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:16:40pm
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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:16:41pm

re: #123 Joe Bacon

Friend just alerted me to this post on Daily Kos. Seems Anonymous is now going after Assange. Look at the Anonymous tweetstorm embedded in the post!

dailykos.com

The enemy of my enemy. Never forget that Anon is not a friend of freedom, only of their own power and Julian threatens that.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:24:15pm

Looking for Lyin Ryan’s Health Care Replacement Plan on his webpage and I always am directed here…

…It must still be a “work in progress”…

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:27:42pm

re: #117 Anymouse

An answer, beyond God said so if you believe in one, is that there’s a chance you could be the one in need someday.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:28:01pm

re: #42 b.d.

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Lidane  Jan 13, 2017 • 10:53:22pm

My surprise, etc. —

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:04:39pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:10:47pm

WTF is this shit that’s getting BernieBros all pissed off about Booker? I just can’t even. But it’s so fucking predictable.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:19:28pm

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF is this shit that’s getting BernieBros all pissed off about Booker? I just can’t even. But it’s so fucking predictable.

My understanding is that when Trump’s pick for FDA was being reviewed, Cory Brooker voted for him. (Trump’s guy is the managing director of one of Peter Thiel’s companies.)

Amongst other things, he wants pharma companies to be able to sell drugs first, then test later.

salon.com

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:22:49pm

Cory Brooker also voted with the Republicans to kill a bill that would allow people to buy drugs from Canada.

Specifically, Cory Brooker made pharma talking points about the dangers of selling “Third World drugs” in the USA, though Canada’s rules for drugs are actually stricter than ours.

Cory Brooker represents a state that is a major manufacturer of prescription drugs. I am not happy about Brooker’s vote either, though I am not going to throw Brooker under the bus for it.

I will keep an eye on his future votes though, to see if he is becoming another Joe Manchin.

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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:31:27pm

re: #134 Anymouse

Gus put forward a bunch of reasons why Booker wasn’t entirely wrong to take that path.

Start around here. Not fun reading but good points.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:36:40pm

133/134

Well that sucks. But geez. There’s still much to like about him.

And canadapharmacy.com is actually a thing that my parents have been using for their meds for years. Shrugs.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:37:20pm

The Flathead (Mont.) Beacon reports on Andrew Anglin’s failure to obtain a permit for his “James Earl Ray Day” march in Whitefish, Mont. on Jan. 16.

flatheadbeacon.com

Anglin has not heard back on his complaint to the ACLU.

The comments section at the Beacon (driven by Disqus so anyone can comment) are a Dumpster fire of “Jewish conspiracy.”

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:39:41pm

re: #135 Alyosha

Gus put forward a bunch of reasons why Booker wasn’t entirely wrong to take that path.

Start around here. Not fun reading but good points.

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I read it when he posted it. Basically, conservatives are all about competition, except when they are not.

There is no way the USA would ever impose drug pricing restrictions on corporations. The alternative is to be able to go to other places where prices are cheaper, and that is competition. Can’t have that. Not buying Cory Brooker’s reasoning. Not buying Gus’s reasoning either.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:39:56pm

re: #135 Alyosha

Gus put forward a bunch of reasons why Booker wasn’t entirely wrong to take that path.

Start around here. Not fun reading but good points.

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And he’s not wrong. We need to address drug prices here in the States, not find a way around the problem by just importing them from Canada.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:41:36pm
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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:43:19pm

My feeling is that if some degree of freedom in the US is derived from being able to exploit the decency of a neighbour, then that particular crutch shouldn’t be supported by an elected official.
If people are forced to buy meds from Canada, then I say, do it. If staying alive means leaning on a country with a terrestrial border and a superior social welfare system then do what you have to do.
Don’t then get pissy at elected officials who vote as if there can exist an alternative policy that would bring down prices in the US.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:45:49pm

re: #141 Alyosha

My feeling is that if some degree of freedom in the US is derived from being able to exploit the decency of a neighbour, then that particular crutch shouldn’t be supported by an elected official.
If people are forced to buy meds from Canada, then I say, do it. If staying alive means leaning on a country with a terrestrial border and a superior social welfare system then do what you have to do.
Don’t then get pissy at elected officials who vote as if there can exist an alternative policy that would bring down prices in the US.

Well, Canadians are allowed to buy medications here. I wonder why so few do that?

This vote specifically is anti-competition. If there were a surge of Americans purchasing medications from Canada, Canadian firms would increase productions, as firms do when they have an increase in demand.

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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:47:19pm

re: #138 Anymouse

I read it when he posted it. Basically, conservatives are all about competition, except when they are not.

There is no way the USA would ever impose drug pricing restrictions on corporations. The alternative is to be able to go to other places where prices are cheaper, and that is competition. Can’t have that. Not buying Cory Brooker’s reasoning. Not buying Gus’s reasoning either.

Saying that there is no way the current establishment will sign off on things like price control, generics etc is a separate issue from the one I’m discussing.
That it is inappropriate for an elected official to vote for a law which abdicates responsibility for its own citizens in favour of the charity of a good neighbour.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:50:05pm

wonkette.com

A Connecticut Republican town official was arrested for grabbing a female town worker by -you guessed it-

She declined to speak about the complaint, prompting him to say, “Was this about the little pinch I gave?” and further adding it was a joke and that he couldn’t believe the 57-year-old woman could be offended, the warrant said. He said that he and the woman have “that kind” of a relationship. He added that “he is the kind of guy that like to embarrass his teenage daughter and he calls it a ‘gig’ and that’s what this was ‘a gig.’”

So apparently he does this to his teenage daughter as well.

They were in an argument before the alleged incident, where he called her a “bloodsucking union worker.” He also allegedly threatened her with the usual “no one will believe you if you complain” after which apparently the police did.

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:51:36pm

re: #143 Alyosha

Saying that there is no way the current establishment will sign off on things like price control, generics etc is a separate issue from the one I’m discussing.
That it is inappropriate for an elected official to vote for a law which abdicates responsibility for its own citizens in favour of the charity of a good neighbour.

Strange, I thought that allowing your citizens to access life-saving medications might be more important than standing up for a principal while you watch them go bankrupt or die.

Allowing competition from Canada would force down prices here.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:51:52pm

re: #142 Anymouse

Well, Canadians are allowed to buy medications here. I wonder why so few do that?

This vote specifically is anti-competition. If there were a surge of Americans purchasing medications from Canada, Canadian firms would increase productions, as firms do when they have an increase in demand.

Yet it’s not exactly a level playing field, is it? Those domestic manufacturers possess a great deal of leverage in the halls of power that they could come up with any number of ways to stifle competition even in the face of such imports. We’ve seen enough examples of Republicans reversing themselves to benefit their donors, would it be impossible for them to suddenly be in favor of increased government regulation in order to set up barriers between consumers and Canadian drugs? Perhaps by forcing any imported drugs to go through the FDA, in the name of “public safety.”

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Anymouse  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:54:14pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

Yet it’s not exactly a level playing field, is it? Those domestic manufacturers possess a great deal of leverage in the halls of power that they could come up with any number of ways to stifle competition even in the face of such imports. We’ve seen enough examples of Republicans reversing themselves to benefit their donors, would it be impossible for them to suddenly be in favor of increased government regulation in order to set up barriers between consumers and Canadian drugs? Perhaps by forcing any imported drugs to go through the FDA, in the name of “public safety.”

They did, by prohibiting buying drugs in Canada, which Cory Brooker supported. The drugs sold in Canada already have been accepted by the FDA. Brooker is protecting his constituents (New Jersey’s pharmaceutical company profits).

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:54:27pm

re: #140 Kragar

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1876 is arguable as well, but there is no doubt about this one.

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Targetpractice  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:57:42pm

re: #147 Anymouse

They did, by prohibiting buying drugs in Canada, which Cory Brooker supported. The drugs sold in Canada already have been accepted by the FDA. Brooker is protecting his constituents (New Jersey’s pharmaceutical company profits).

That’s part of having a representative gov’t, that representatives are going to look after those they represent. It’s the same with St. Bernie and his blind-spot on defense spending and warmongering where Vermont is concerned.

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Alyosha  Jan 13, 2017 • 11:58:02pm

re: #145 Anymouse

Strange, I thought that allowing your citizens to access life-saving medications might be more important than standing up for a principal while you watch them go bankrupt or die.

Allowing competition from Canada would force down prices here.

I’ll add that if such a law were to pass, it would just kick the can down the road.

The law implicitly admits that the US is incapable of determining drug prices. That it’s unable to provide for its own citizens.
I understand that lives are imperiled. If the loss of sovereignty and prestige are what the US is willing to stand just so that average people are able to afford treatment from a foreign country, I don’t know why Obama instated the ACA to begin with.

Do you see what I’m driving at? The progressives see that change coming from within.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:08:22am

re: #150 Alyosha

I’ll add that if such a law were to pass, it would just kick the can down the road.

The law implicitly admits that the US is incapable of determining drug prices. That it’s unable to provide for its own citizens.
I understand that lives are imperiled. If the loss of sovereignty and prestige are what the US is willing to stand just so that average people are able to afford treatment from a foreign country, I don’t know why Obama instated the ACA to begin with.

Do you see what I’m driving at? The progressives see that change coming from within.

No, I am afraid I don’t understand.

A comparison: Liberals are incensed at the GOP because it seems likely they will repeal the ACA. The ACA is not the best way to address healthcare issues (single payer or socialised medicine is), but the ACA is light years ahead of what we did have.

I see the Canada drug issue the same way (minus the Third World talking point from Cory Brooker, who apparently has never been to Canada if he could repeat that pharma industry talking point word-for-word in the hearing). Purchasing drugs from Canada would not be the ideal solution. It would be better than what we have now.

If death penalty states continue using Phenobarbital for executions, for example, the EU has already said it would cut off sales here (the drug is owned by a Danish firm). Controlling my epilepsy depends on that specific drug. (Many people who go into uncontrollable seizures need it in an emergency situation as well, for everything from brain injury to epilepsy.) I would be forced to obtain the drug from Canada or Mexico, which under current DEA rules is a controlled substance. (Just taking my legitimate prescription across the border last summer and back was a monumental pain in the butt.)

That makes me wonder if I could apply for asylum in either Canada or Mexico if I can no longer obtain my medications here?

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:15:32am

Rep. John Lewis went there: “I don’t see Donald Trump as a legitimate president.”

nbcnews.com (Goes to Meet the Press video)

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Alyosha  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:17:54am

re: #151 Anymouse

No, I am afraid I don’t understand.

A comparison: Liberals are incensed at the GOP because it seems likely they will repeal the ACA. The ACA is not the best way to address healthcare issues (single payer or socialised medicine is), but the ACA is light years ahead of what we did have.

I see the Canada drug issue the same way (minus the Third World talking point from Cory Brooker, who apparently has never been to Canada if he could repeat that pharma industry talking point word-for-word in the hearing). Purchasing drugs from Canada would not be the ideal solution. It would be better than what we have now.

If death penalty states continue using Phenobarbital for executions, for example, the EU has already said it would cut off sales here (the drug is owned by a Danish firm). Controlling my epilepsy depends on that specific drug. (Many people who go into uncontrollable seizures need it in an emergency situation as well, for everything from brain injury to epilepsy.) I would be forced to obtain the drug from Canada or Mexico, which under current DEA rules is a controlled substance. (Just taking my legitimate prescription across the border last summer and back was a monumental pain in the butt.)

That makes me wonder if I could apply for asylum in either Canada or Mexico if I can no longer obtain my medications here?

We probably won’t see eye to eye on this because you have an obvious need for the drugs that might only be available in Canada and on that point I would urge you to do whatever you can to obtain those medications.
My point is simply that Booker understands that the US isn’t in such a financial crisis that it can’t also properly fund research, regulate the industry and control prices.
It is entirely backwards that a country should legalise what is essentially black marketeering just because a political solution cannot be arrived at.
Do what you must but don’t hold legislators to a standard which demands that they ought to cede responsibility for its own citizenry in favour of thrusting them upon a decent neighbour who cannot object.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:18:46am
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teleskiguy  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:21:13am
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

We the People seemed to have forgotten the bold-faced precepts.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:23:25am

re: #153 Alyosha

We probably won’t see eye to eye on this because you have an obvious need for the drugs that might only be available in Canada and on that point I would urge you to do whatever you can to obtain those medications.
My point is simply that Booker understands that the US isn’t in such a financial crisis that it can’t also properly fund research, regulate the industry and control prices.
It is entirely backwards that a country should legalise what is essentially black marketeering just because a political solution cannot be arrived at.
Do what you must but don’t hold legislators to a standard which demands that they ought to cede responsibility for its own citizenry in favour of thrusting them upon a decent neighbour who cannot object.

Well, I would argue that Canada could object: It’s parliament could prohibit Canadian firms from selling drugs across the border, for example.

Brooker did cede responsibility for his own citizens in favour of his states’ pharma companies.

And again, if Canada’s firms were suddenly squeezed by Americans purchasing drugs there, they would increase production: That’s how capitalism works.

If I had a say, it would be single-payer healthcare (but I don’t have a say). Since we cannot have that, and the right is always screaming about “free market,” well, let’s have a free market. Let Canadian firms compete here. (Oh wait, they aren’t in favour of competition, “free market” is another lie.)

As I said above, I won’t throw Sen. Brooker under the bus just yet, but I’ll be watching for signs he is going the way of Joe Manchin (D-Pharma) or Joe Lieberman (I-Insurance) - their real constituents.

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Alyosha  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:27:18am

re: #156 Anymouse

Well, I would argue that Canada could object: It’s parliament could prohibit Canadian firms from selling drugs across the border, for example.

Brooker did cede responsibility for his own citizens in favour of his states’ pharma companies.

And again, if Canada’s firms were suddenly squeezed by Americans purchasing drugs there, they would increase production: That’s how capitalism works.

If I had a say, it would be single-payer healthcare (but I don’t have a say). Since we cannot have that, and the right is always screaming about “free market,” well, let’s have a free market. Let Canadian firms compete here. (Oh wait, they aren’t in favour of competition, “free market” is another lie.)

As I said above, I won’t throw Sen. Brooker under the bus just yet, but I’ll be watching for signs he is going the way of Joe Manchin (D-Pharma) or Joe Lieberman (I-Insurance) - their real constituents.

I have a feeling that Booker isn’t like either one of those assholes.

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Cheechako  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:31:06am

If you want to purchase low cost prescriptions, take a look at Mexico. Every major border crossing has numerous pharmacies within walking distance on the Mexico side. The savings on drug prices is significant. For example, Albutrol inhalers which cost about $10 each in the US are available in packages of 3 for $3.99 (US). Another example is the antibiotic Z Pac. In the US a treatment (total of 6 pills) runs anywhere between $60 to $80 while in Mexico it’s $4.99 (US).

Thousands of US and Canadians cross every day to lower their prescription expenses. Many of the drugs, like the two I mentioned, do not require a prescription. Technically a US citizen is only allowed to bring a 90 day supply back to the States but the Border Patrol kinda’ looks the other way when you cross.

Mexico is just as tough safety wise on drug manufactures as is the US and Canada. The Mexican drug stores carry 100’s of different medications. The only type of drugs that are not available are the Type 1 narcotics.

When I made a “drug run” I usually saved several hundred dollars.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:32:26am

re: #157 Alyosha

I have a feeling that Booker isn’t like either one of those assholes.

Agreed. I am disappointed in Cory Brooker’s position, but no politician is going to agree with everything I want. That is not how politics (or human relations) works.

Besides, if everyone agreed with me, the world would be an awfully boring place.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:33:02am

re: #151 Anymouse

No, I am afraid I don’t understand.

A comparison: Liberals are incensed at the GOP because it seems likely they will repeal the ACA. The ACA is not the best way to address healthcare issues (single payer or socialised medicine is), but the ACA is light years ahead of what we did have.

I see the Canada drug issue the same way (minus the Third World talking point from Cory Brooker, who apparently has never been to Canada if he could repeat that pharma industry talking point word-for-word in the hearing). Purchasing drugs from Canada would not be the ideal solution. It would be better than what we have now.

If death penalty states continue using Phenobarbital for executions, for example, the EU has already said it would cut off sales here (the drug is owned by a Danish firm). Controlling my epilepsy depends on that specific drug. (Many people who go into uncontrollable seizures need it in an emergency situation as well, for everything from brain injury to epilepsy.) I would be forced to obtain the drug from Canada or Mexico, which under current DEA rules is a controlled substance. (Just taking my legitimate prescription across the border last summer and back was a monumental pain in the butt.)

That makes me wonder if I could apply for asylum in either Canada or Mexico if I can no longer obtain my medications here?

And when Canada decides to jump on the same bandwagon as the EU and ban US importation of Phenobarbital because states are substituting it in for the traditional lethal injection cocktail, then what?

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:35:10am

re: #158 Cheechako

If you want to purchase low cost prescriptions, take a look at Mexico. Every major border crossing has numerous pharmacies within walking distance on the Mexico side. The savings on drug prices is significant. For example, Albutrol inhalers which cost about $10 each in the US are available in packages of 3 for $3.99 (US). Another example is the antibiotic Z Pac. In the US a treatment (total of 6 pills) runs anywhere between $60 to $80 while in Mexico it’s $4.99 (US).

Thousands of US and Canadians cross every day to lower their prescription expenses. Many of the drugs, like the two I mentioned, do not require a prescription. Technically a US citizen is only allowed to bring a 90 day supply back to the States but the Border Patrol kinda’ looks the other way when you cross.

Mexico is just as tough safety wise on drug manufactures as is the US and Canada. The Mexican drug stores carry 100’s of different medications. The only type of drugs that are not available are the Type 1 narcotics.

When I made a “drug run” I usually saved several hundred dollars.

Well, that let’s me out on my epilepsy medication. The only other drug I take (thyroid medication) is inexpensive here anyway.

For the moment, I do not pay for medications (they come from the Veterans Administration). We’ll have to see after the GOP throws us veterans under the bus and privatises the best medical system in the USA, because socialised medicine goes against conservative orthodoxy.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:36:07am

re: #160 Targetpractice

And when Canada decides to jump on the same bandwagon as the EU and ban US importation of Phenobarbital because states are substituting it in for the traditional lethal injection cocktail, then what?

I’d be likely screwed. Hence the statement “I wonder if I could apply for asylum in Mexico or Canada.”

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:44:28am

(Goes to FEC document)

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:49:31am

re: #162 Anymouse

I’d be likely screwed. Hence the statement “I wonder if I could apply for asylum in Mexico or Canada.”

It’s the whole “unintended consequences” bit. The more reliance we have on foreign suppliers for our pharmaceuticals, the easier it is for them to lop us off at the knees whenever there’s any sort of dispute.

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Cheechako  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:52:24am

re: #161 Anymouse

I did some checking on the Los Algodones web sites and it looks like you may get Type 1 narcotics back across the border with a prescription. I do think the Border Patrol would be much more strict about the quantities.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:56:09am

re: #164 Targetpractice

It’s the whole “unintended consequences” bit. The more reliance we have on foreign suppliers for our pharmaceuticals, the easier it is for them to lop us off at the knees whenever there’s any sort of dispute.

Phenobarbital is not a US invention. It is owned by Lundbeck of Denmark. Lundbeck is required to follow EU regulations.

It’s too bad my epilepsy relies on a foreign-made drug than an American-made one. I guess it’s my fault my seizures don’t respond to good ol’ patriotic drugs like Klonopin, or that I am allergic to Yankee Doodle Gabapentin. /s

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:14:43am

re: #165 Cheechako

I did some checking on the Los Algodones web sites and it looks like yo may get Type 1 narcotics back across the border with a prescription. I do think the Border Patrol would be much more strict about the quantities.

Well, in my travels to Canada the bigger problem is getting sufficient quantities of my medications from the VA. Canada doesn’t really care as long as I can present a valid prescription shown on the medication bottles.

As I live in a death penalty state, the EU requires I sign an affidavit that I will not transfer the drug to the state, and I am limited to a thirty-day prescription. Getting the med is much harder than travelling over the border with it.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:17:00am

On those blank pieces of paper in Mr. Trump’s folders, The Independent notes they were A4 size (an unusual size in the USA: it is usually used in Europe and Russia).

independent.co.uk

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:21:17am

re: #168 Anymouse

On those blank pieces of paper in Mr. Trump’s folders, The Independent notes they were A4 size (an unusual size in the USA: it is usually used in Europe and Russia).

They’re either trolling us, or they’re not even trying to pretend anymore.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:26:25am
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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:33:46am

Chuck Tingle, an erotic Romance writer, has a new book out parodying Mr. Trump. Yes, it’s real. Link to Amazon behind privacy tag since this is a family Website.

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teleskiguy  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:41:36am
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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:44:24am

re: #172 teleskiguy

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I don’t know how to reverse this. Like it or not, states get electoral votes. Hillary Clinton winning by approximately three million more votes is meaningless … perhaps a fifty state election strategy?

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:44:39am

re: #166 Anymouse

Phenobarbital is not a US invention. It is owned by Lundbeck of Denmark. Lundbeck is required to follow EU regulations.

It’s too bad my epilepsy relies on a foreign-made drug than an American-made one. I guess it’s my fault my seizures don’t respond to good ol’ patriotic drugs like Klonopin, or that I am allergic to Yankee Doodle Gabapentin. /s

So then perhaps you should indeed consider that move you were talking about last month. Seek out a country where death fetishists aren’t fucking things up for the rest of the population by seeking out any drug their can get their hands on in order to keep making sacrifices to their blood god.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:45:59am

re: #170 Anymouse

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Inevitable result: Wingnuts suddenly calling dubbing golden showers “patriotic” and arguing that it’s a totally legitimate form of “protest” against Obama.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:52:10am

re: #174 Targetpractice

So then perhaps you should indeed consider that move you were talking about last month. Seek out a country where death fetishists aren’t fucking things up for the rest of the population by seeking out any drug their can get their hands on in order to keep making sacrifices to their blood god.

My only problem is neither Canada nor Mexico would take me in … I am not wealthy enough. My only hope would be political asylum.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:52:54am

re: #176 Anymouse

My only problem is neither Canada nor Mexico would take me in … I am not wealthy enough. My only hope would be political asylum.

Give it a year, we’ll all probably be seeking asylum in Canada.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:56:00am

re: #177 Targetpractice

Give it a year, we’ll all probably be seeking asylum in Canada.

I’m fine with either Canada or Mexico if it came to that. If Rep. Steve King gets his way, I’ll get a free ticket to Poland though.

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teleskiguy  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:58:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:16:33am

So, in local news from my part of the world, the city of Ostrava is apparently going to reconstruct the Grossman Villa, a magnificent building here in town that’s right next door to a student of mine’s office.

There’s some interior photos here at this gallery - it’s quite something.

moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

The building, which was designed by Ostrava architect Francis Grossman, was last used as a school club. In the future, it will be used as an accommodation center for VIP guests and visitors to the city.

“Project documentation should be completed within half a year, and reconstruction will begin in 2018. The cost of reconstruction of the villa will likely be around 40 million crowns,” said the Mayor of Ostrava, Tomas Macura.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:16:34am

re: #173 Anymouse

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I don’t know how to reverse this. Like it or not, states get electoral votes. Hillary Clinton winning by approximately three million more votes is meaningless … perhaps a fifty state election strategy?

Only true for certain values of meaningless. Trump’s Presidency will be weakened as a result, viewed as illegitimate and stolen via undue foreign manipulation along with the official complicit corrupt actions of James Comey. If anything this election helped set in motion the destruction of the Electoral College and the incipient overreach by Trump and the GOP will only further undermine and delegitimize this anti-democratic system.

In other words, pandering to the racial prejudices and scientific illiteracy held sacred by a clear minority of hate filled, small state, aging rural voters simply isn’t the answer.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:19:52am

sacbee.com (goes to the Sacramento Bee)

A noisy demonstration at UC Davis on Friday led organizers to cancel a controversial event featuring Breitbart News editor and “alt-right” favorite Milo Yiannopoulos and Martin Shkreli, the hedge-fund founder and former pharmaceutical executive reviled for raising the price of a potentially life-saving drug by 5,000 percent.

Protestors, who started gathering about two hours before the event’s scheduled 7:30 p.m. start time, chanted “shut it down” and held signs with slogans such as “your facism is showing.”

The event’s sponsor, the UC Davis College Republicans, called off the event shortly before 7 p.m., with someone making the announcement over a bullhorn. The reaction was muted. Ticket holders lined up outside the Sciences Lecture Hall slowly dispersed, while some protestors remained until the outside lights were shut off.

Read more here: sacbee.com

(More at the Bee)

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VegasGolfer  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:19:59am

pettitts.co.uk

There was a discussion about train travel a few days back. Some of them I would love to do. Like no. 6 and 10

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:25:14am

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

Only true for certain values of meaningless. Trump’s Presidency will be weakened as a result, viewed as illegitimate and stolen via undue foreign manipulation along with the official complicit corrupt actions of James Comey. If anything this election helped set in motion the destruction of the Electoral College and the incipient overreach by Trump and the GOP will only further undermine and delegitimize this anti-democratic system.

In other words, pandering to the racial prejudices and scientific illiteracy held sacred by a clear minority of hate filled, small state, aging rural voters simply isn’t the answer.

If Trump’s electoral victory had been on the order of 1 million or more votes, one could argue that the effect of efforts by Russia and Comey to swing the election were meaningless. But when his margin of victory is nearly a rounding error, there’s a legit argument that outside interference swung the election. If he’d won the popular vote, even by a thin margin, he could argue his victory was totally legit. But in the face of both, with growing evidence that he knew and actively participated in the swinging of the election in his favor? Well, it’s verging very seriously on the cusp of being dubbed a “coup.”

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:27:56am

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

Only true for certain values of meaningless. Trump’s Presidency will be weakened as a result, viewed as illegitimate and stolen via undue foreign manipulation along with the official complicit corrupt actions of James Comey. If anything this election helped set in motion the destruction of the Electoral College and the incipient overreach by Trump and the GOP will only further undermine and delegitimize this anti-democratic system.

In other words, pandering to the racial prejudices and scientific illiteracy held sacred by a clear minority of hate filled, small state, aging rural voters simply isn’t the answer.

Nope the Electoral College is not going to be overturned. The states with lower populations are not going to pass such an amendment. Start counting states that won’t ratify it, and when you get to thirteen, your amendment fails. That is why several other attempts to eliminate the Electoral College have failed throughout history.

Moreover, states such as mine are not “hate filled, small state, ageing rural voters.” Wasn’t someone here yesterday telling me I shouldn’t paint all Evangelicals with the same brush? Rural states are okay though. Got it.

Hillary Clinton, despite the lack of campaigning on her behalf here, got 34% of the vote. (She did make a campaign stop in Omaha - which has only a minority of the state population.)

Unless and until the Democratic Party actually wants to compete for all the states, they will keep losing those two electoral votes in every state they cede without a fight.

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Alyosha  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:31:32am

Oh boy.
*nervous laughter*

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Lupin  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:33:58am

I find it highly ironic that after interfering so many times in other countries’ elections for fear that a Lefty be democratically elected — and in a few cases, stepping in to overthrow said Lefty when actually elected, (cf. Italy, Iran, Chile, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc.) we are now hoisted on our own petard. Yes, Dorothy, there is such a thing as karma.

Be angry, fearful, depressed, whatever, the fact is that we’ve been played like a violin, and Trump is the lawfully elected President, thanks to a Constitution that should have been amended a long time ago.

(The French, France is where I live, have amended their 1958 Constitution something like 25 times since then to better adapt to changing times. But we? Oh no! We’re #1 and perfect. Perish the thought and pass me the smelling salts.)

A Civil War is not and shouldn’t be on the table; if only because Putin and the Chinese would die from multiple orgasms.

So can we do: nothing, except to welcome America 4.0 — there’s no do-over. Those old enough to remember the 60s and 70s will soon park their wheelchairs at the Golden Sunset Retirement Home, and the younger generations will discover the fun of living in a Third world-like Country. There was a Golden Age and we trashed it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:34:18am

re: #184 Targetpractice

If Trump’s electoral victory had been on the order of 1 million or more votes, one could argue that the effect of efforts by Russia and Comey to swing the election were meaningless. But when his margin of victory is nearly a rounding error, there’s a legit argument that outside interference swung the election. If he’d won the popular vote, even by a thin margin, he could argue his victory was totally legit. But in the face of both, with growing evidence that he knew and actively participated in the swinging of the election in his favor? Well, it’s verging very seriously on the cusp of being dubbed a “coup.”

The sheer possibility of Trump as President prompted me to begin prepping for major disruption last August. I don’t mean to be alarmist but I’m not taking bets on a stable near term future. This current scenario is probably one of the scariest I can think of, one that pushes every single one of his reactionary, thin-skinned, malignantly narcissistic and psychopathic buttons. Deep down he knows exactly how deeply corrupt and stolen his victory was, and since he’s utterly unprepared, unqualified and incapable of actually leading his way out of this mess through genuine leadership and expert policy skills, he’s going to instigate an immediate crisis as a massive distraction.

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Anymouse  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:34:21am

re: #186 Alyosha

Oh boy.
*nervous laughter*

Time for me to hit the rack. Too tired and disillusioned to laugh. Catch y’all later.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:51:24am

re: #185 Anymouse

Nope the Electoral College is not going to be overturned. The states with lower populations are not going to pass such an amendment. Start counting states that won’t ratify it, and when you get to thirteen, your amendment fails. That is why several other attempts to eliminate the Electoral College have failed throughout history.

We don’t need an amendment. Demographic changes in Texas and Florida will doom the EC.

Moreover, states such as mine are not “hate filled, small state, ageing rural voters.” Wasn’t someone here yesterday telling me I shouldn’t paint all Evangelicals with the same brush? Rural states are okay though. Got it.

Sorry but I’ve been there. The people are nice as long as you’re white, don’t stand up for your own lack of Christian beliefs and tolerate the endemic racism.

Hillary Clinton, despite the lack of campaigning on her behalf here, got 34% of the vote. (She did make a campaign stop in Omaha - which has only a minority of the state population.)

At 34% no Democrat has any hope whatsoever of taking the State. None-At-All. I get that you think NE and other small mostly rural states deserve Dem Party attention but as a practical matter that needle just isn’t getting moved far enough to carry these States.

Unless and until the Democratic Party actually wants to compete for all the states, they will keep losing those two electoral votes in every state they cede without a fight.

Again, there’s no chance in hell that Nebraska as a whole is going D in a general election. I get that you’re feeling better about your neighbors at the moment but a couple months ago you wrote about how you’d been explicitly threatened and you still feel the need to keep a loaded shotgun under your bed just in case these decent people turn on you again. I know it’s not all of them, but it’s enough of them to make direct appeal a lost cause as long as the EC holds sway, and the only thing that’s being ceded to here is a pragmatic assessment of that reality.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 2:55:00am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 3:00:28am

re: #191 I cannot.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 14, 2017 • 3:12:36am

re: #63 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

What is that, a border wall FOR ANTS?

Nigel Tufnel drew the plans.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 14, 2017 • 3:50:55am

re: #63 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

What is that, a border wall FOR ANTS?

6th grade science project. Maybe Barron’s.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 3:59:12am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

Fck that, he’d have one of the serfs construct his project, and El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago would have made sure the serf put a LOT more gold leaf on it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2017 • 4:44:55am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

At 34% no Democrat has any hope whatsoever of taking the State. None-At-All. I get that you think NE and other small mostly rural states deserve Dem Party attention but as a practical matter that needle just isn’t getting moved far enough to carry these States.

Clinton got 34.4% of the vote in Alabama.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2017 • 4:53:01am

re: #193 Odie Hugh Manatee

Nigel Tufnel drew the plans.

Someone gave him a drawing that said 18 inches.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 4:59:25am

Well donny is awake and whining.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:06:54am

re: #198 Bubblehead II

Well donny is awake and whining.

About John Lewis, no less.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:08:04am

re: #199 JasonA

About John Lewis, no less.

Of course.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:10:59am

re: #200 Bubblehead II

Of course.

It’s amazing, and a little scary, that Trump picks every possible hill to die on. He feels compelled to engage in every fight.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:15:06am

re: #201 JasonA

It’s amazing, and a little scary, that Trump picks every possible hill to die on. He feels compelled to engage in every fight.

He can’t help it. It’s sort of like that line from Top Gun. Son, your ego is writing checks your body can’t cash.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:22:27am

RED ALERT PeeOTUS HAS CAPS LOCK ENGAGED! REPEAT PeeOTUS HAS ENGAGED CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! BRACE FOR DERP INCOMING!

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:26:27am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:39:04am

re: #203 I cannot.

RED ALERT PeeOTUS HAS CAPS LOCK ENGAGED! REPEAT PeeOTUS HAS ENGAGED CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! BRACE FOR DERP INCOMING!

lol

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:44:26am

WATCH LIVE: IRIDIUM-1 MISSION

SpaceX is targeting launch of the Iridium-1 mission tomorrow today, January 14, from Space Launch Complex 4E at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The instantaneous launch window opens at 9:54:39 am PST or 5:54:39 pm UTC, and the launch will be broadcast live at spacex.com beginning at approximately 9:34 am PST or 5:34 pm UTC.

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:45:45am

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Good morning!

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 5:56:44am

re: #207 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:04:38am
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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:11:33am

re: #209 JasonA

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It’s only a matter of time before Trump tweets out the “N” word. And when he does the RepubliKKKlan base will have the mother of all orgasms…

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:15:19am

re: #208 Bubblehead II

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“All these birdies are yours. Except woodpeckers, attempt no eating those.”

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:16:06am

re: #211 jeffreyw

AWWWW. I just wanna snuggle that kitty.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:17:02am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:17:05am

re: #210 Joe Bacon

It’s only a matter of time before Trump tweets out the “N” word. And when he does the RepubliKKKlan base will have the mother of all orgasms…

HACKED!!

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:18:46am

Trump needs to diminish the accomplishments and heroism of others to feel better about himself. How fucking pathetic is that?

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:18:58am

good point, what a uniter.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:20:32am

re: #214 b.d.

HACKED!!

But he knows cyber. He has the best cyber. So it will probably be a (unpaid) intern who has been fired promoted.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:25:44am

re: #217 Bubblehead II

But he knows cyber. He has the best cyber. So it will probably be a (unpaid) intern who has been fired promoted.

I forgot that Rudy is in charge of the cyber now….I feel so much better now.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:28:11am

re: #218 b.d.

Did you read about how good Rudy’s website was on the cyber? Its the best cyber.

Like, almost so bad that you could hack it by pressing random buttons cyber.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:30:19am

Facts be damned. It’s an African American district so it must be horrible!!

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:33:42am

re: #219 I cannot.

Did you read about how good Rudy’s website was on the cyber? Its the best cyber.

Like, almost so bad that you could hack it by pressing random buttons cyber.

Rudy is going to make sure that those AOL discs come in tamper proof packaging.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:34:19am

re: #220 b.d.

Facts be damned. It’s an African American district so it must be horrible!!

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But Cheeto Benito isn’t racist. ◔_◔

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:36:47am

Up in Chicago. Son has a gymnastics meet on Sunday, so we are going around the city to do some fun stuff today. About to head to the aquarium now, and have tickets to the Bulls basketball game this afternoon. Will be back to computer soon and have a question for any around.

Giordanos or Pizanos Pizza? Going to pick one for dinner. Which one would you all prefer?

And for my money, John Lewis is the greatest, and most important living American. If he talks, its up to the rest of us to sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:41:35am

I feel like we’re going to make some more in the coming years.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:44:03am

re: #219 I cannot.

Did you read about how good Rudy’s website was on the cyber? Its the best cyber.

Like, almost so bad that you could hack it by pressing random buttons cyber.

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:44:53am

re: #212 JasonA

AWWWW. I just wanna snuggle that kitty.

That kitteh is a resident of a special needs shelter run on a 90 acre no cage facility in Iowa. They mainly take Fe/FIV kittehs, the shelter where MrsJ volunteers took a run up there to deliver some that they had but didn’t have room to properly care for. Feline leukemia is contagious and those afflicted must be kept under quarantine. There is, so far, no cure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:46:18am

re: #213 JasonA

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I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump doesn’t know who John Lewis or or his story.

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:49:54am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:50:18am

re: #223 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Up in Chicago. Son has a gymnastics meet on Sunday, so we are going around the city to do some fun stuff today. About to head to the aquarium now, and have tickets to the Bulls basketball game this afternoon. Will be back to computer soon and have a question for any around.

Giordanos or Pizanos Pizza? Going to pick one for dinner. Which one would you all prefer?

And for my money, John Lewis is the greatest, and most important living American. If he talks, its up to the rest of us to sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen.

Of course I am going to be a contrarian and say Lou Malnati’s. I’m jealous, Chicago is a great city even though this isn’t my favorite time to visit there…

OK, Trump has belittled McCain & Lewis, arguably the 2 guys in Congress with the most honorable back story and it is ok?

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:55:20am

lol

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:57:32am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:58:12am

re: #230 b.d.

Wouldn’t that be a demotion for Mark?

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ElaineBenis  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:59:28am

re: #176 Anymouse

Mexico routinely gives visitors 180-day tourist visas on entry. There are 100’s of thousands of Americans & Canadians who live full-time in Mexico on tourist visas by making a quick trip back across the border every six months. Including me.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 6:59:43am
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MsJ  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:00:00am

re: #116 Alyosha

Wheat-dogg linked to a site dedicated to then-and-now Trump supporters’ angry and disillusioned Tweets.
Now I can get a running stream (no pun actually intended).
Like Krusty freebasing Moon rocks, this kind of schadenfreude gets me to normal.
Vielen Danke.

Do you recall what that site was?

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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:00:07am

re: #218 b.d.

I forgot that Rudy is in charge of the cyber now….I feel so much better now.

Rudy will contract that out to Life Lock.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:00:59am

re: #185 Anymouse

Nope the Electoral College is not going to be overturned. The states with lower populations are not going to pass such an amendment. Start counting states that won’t ratify it, and when you get to thirteen, your amendment fails. That is why several other attempts to eliminate the Electoral College have failed throughout history.

Moreover, states such as mine are not “hate filled, small state, ageing rural voters.” Wasn’t someone here yesterday telling me I shouldn’t paint all Evangelicals with the same brush? Rural states are okay though. Got it.

Hillary Clinton, despite the lack of campaigning on her behalf here, got 34% of the vote. (She did make a campaign stop in Omaha - which has only a minority of the state population.)

Unless and until the Democratic Party actually wants to compete for all the states, they will keep losing those two electoral votes in every state they cede without a fight.

That was me. I specifically was talking to a Lizard who long before you started posting here would get himself in some hot water by making generalizing statements about people based on their nationality, religion, events that happened in the past, etc. I’ll add that I think Ziggy(Pro Life Liberal) has improved. I also specifically asked you why your bad experience with Evangelicals allows you to expect the worst from them without actually having known them as individuals whereas you certainly wouldn’t tolerate someone with bad experience with Muslims (i.e. someone who lost family on 9-11 or in the Boston Marathon Bombings) expecting the worst about Muslims. I don’t wish to have the debate about resources and all that again. It seems to me that regardless of whether we have EC or not, some states will get ignored and I keep on telling you that the way that the national Democratic party will take notice to your area is if you build up a presence. When I was a kid, the national Dems didn’t really pay much attention to Virginia either. Then we started electing Dems to local offices and as of now, three of our four governors since 2001 have been Democrats and both Senators are and the state has gone Democratic for President the last three times. You want the DNC to pay attention to? Start from the ground up.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:01:36am

re: #232 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Wouldn’t that be a demotion for Mark?

that may be the first time ive ever seen him in a tie and i guess the only reason he hasn’t done it already is that he is only 32

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:01:55am

Trashing John Lewis and assuming his district must be a crime infested hellhole. Nice Donald.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:03:07am

re: #230 b.d.

lol

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Well after Trump, I guess anything’s possible.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:04:09am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:07:26am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Well after Trump, I guess anything’s possible.

After Trump I could see Zuckerberg denying foes placing ads on Facebook and for him to put Facebook into a “blind trust” being run by his dog.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:08:05am

re: #241 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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See, knowing that the Civil Rights era was filled with things like that and a these happened in my parents life is why I get pissed when I hear African-Americans told to “get over” racism. This wasn’t that long ago. We have a Congressman, John Lewis that literally experienced the worst the South had to offer African-Americans. The funny thing is many people who tell African Americans to “get over it” would never tell a Confederate sympathizer the same and hell some are CSA sympathizers themselves.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:08:09am

Forgot to post this the other day, I am officially a card carrying member of the ACLU now:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:08:52am

re: #244 Timothy Watson

Forgot to post this the other day, I am officially a card carrying member of the ACLU now:

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Sweet. Congrats.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:09:05am

re: #201 JasonA

It’s amazing, and a little scary, that Trump picks every possible hill to die on. He feels compelled to engage in every fight.

Great leaders fear no battle!!!

That is just plain fact when you are smarter than all the generals.

Well, that and a lot of bullshit…

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:10:41am

re: #205 b.d.

lol

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Progress!!!

He is now calling it the TRUMP DOSSIER.

So he has put his mark on it…like a dog!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:12:39am

re: #241 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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A couple of years ago some Anniston progressives (Yes, there are too.) pushed for a monument to the Freedom Riders. A “placeholder” marker was erected and vandalized within days.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:12:47am

He’s a fucking loose cannon. A lot of people though George W. Bush was illegitimate too and Bush to his credit and I say this as someone who hated the sketchiness that surrounded the 2000 election never went out of his way to attack those people the way Trump has Lewis.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:12:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:13:14am

re: #248 Decatur Deb

A couple of years ago some Anniston progressives (Yes, there are too.) pushed for a monument to the Freedom Riders. A “placeholder” marker was erected and vandalized within days.

I believe it, sigh.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:16:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:17:31am

re: #252 b.d.

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Mitt Romney likes the trees in Lewis’ district.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:18:07am

And once again Trump associates African-American with crime and inner city. Yeah he’s not a racist.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:20:34am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

And once again Trump associates African-American with crime and inner city. Yeah he’s not a racist.

What a hell hole! You better bring your machine gun!!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:22:41am

re: #255 b.d.

What a hell hole! You better bring your machine gun!!

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You need that pool to hide in from the rampant machine gun fire.

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:24:46am

re: #256 Timothy Watson

You need that pool to hide in from the rampant machine gun fire.

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Look at all those unemployed trees and those thuggish tiles.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:25:28am

re: #159 Anymouse

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Agreed. I am disappointed in Cory Brooker’s Booker’s position

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:26:28am

Good morning,
Not sure when Talon_262 might be back in, but I owe Talon a thank you and the rest of the you on the blog an apology, fake news site got me, Talon caught it and CL was nice enough to get a heads up to me so I could un publish the hero sniper Page. Sorry guys.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:26:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:27:57am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:30:48am

I am living in freaking bizzaro world

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:33:10am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:34:04am

re: #264 b.d.

I am living in freaking bizzaro world

Podhoretz will change his tune once Trump rubber stamps his wet dream of repealing the ACA with no replacement.

Or… not?

…nah!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:34:21am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s one to fucking talk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:35:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:35:52am

re: #264 b.d.

I am living in freaking bizzaro world

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Trump isn’t a big enough man to ignore anything.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:37:15am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He still does great things. And he’s not wrong about the Russian hacking either.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:38:06am

re: #264 b.d.

I am living in freaking bizzaro world

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Podhoretz openly proposed ethnic cleansing of Sunnis in Iraq.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:38:53am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:39:49am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Trump isn’t a big enough man to ignore anything.

Because Trump was going to delegate most of the POTUS’ tasks to Pence, Ryan, McConnell and the generals, this inability to resist any remote criticism will become further amplified.

He’ll become even more unhinged by the day (if that’s fucking possible).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:40:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:42:52am

I had a tweet the other day expressing an opinion much like Matt’s:

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JasonA  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:44:13am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:45:27am

re: #273 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Because Trump was going to delegate most of the POTUS’ tasks to Pence, Ryan, McConnell and the generals, this inability to resist any remote criticism will become further amplified.

He’ll become even more unhinged by the day (if that’s fucking possible).

Yeah it will get worse. We’ve seen how sensitive he is to criticism. His thin-skinned bullshit is going to destroy a lot of our foreign relationships.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:45:54am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

At 34% no Democrat has any hope whatsoever of taking the State. None-At-All. I get that you think NE and other small mostly rural states deserve Dem Party attention but as a practical matter that needle just isn’t getting moved far enough to carry these States.

Again, there’s no chance in hell that Nebraska as a whole is going D in a general election. I get that you’re feeling better about your neighbors at the moment but a …

So Senator Ben Nelson was figment of our imagination? The Blue Dog Dems are more conservative than anybody California or New York would ever elect, but they are nonetheless Dems. And when we’re counting votes for Senate Majority Leader, or deciding who’ll chair the committees, a Blue Dog is every bit as Dem as Nancy Pelosi.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:46:25am

re: #171 Anymouse

Chuck Tingle, an erotic Romance writer, has a new book out parodying Mr. Trump.

Isn’t Tingle the author who has his followers attempting to skrew up the Hugo Award nomination and voting process?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:46:44am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And he’s president elect. he’s not going to be easily ignored. Some people want to treat Trump like he’s still candidate Trump. We did somehow elect this baby two months ago. Why? I’ll never know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:46:58am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:50:03am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

It wouldn’t surprise me if people said the exact same thing in private about George Fucking Wallace or any of the white supremacist despots in the 1960s Solid South.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:50:33am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really think Trump is uninformed enough to think Lewis is just another Congressman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:51:01am

WATCH @Lin_Manuel’s Powerful Performance of MLK’s ‘Beyond Vietnam’ Speech at MLK Now 2016 & RSVP for MLK Now 2017: bit.ly

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:51:05am

re: #283 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It wouldn’t surprise me if people said the exact same thing in private about George Fucking Wallace or any of the white supremacist despots in the 1960s Solid South.

Wouldn’t surprise me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:52:39am

I totally expect some white right wing conservative to lecture Lewis on how MLK “wouldn’t approve.” There’s nothing wrong with what Lewis said in my opinion given what we do know about the Russian hacking and how it was specifically done to help him. Face it Don, you’re the property of one Vladimir Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:52:52am
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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:53:03am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dudebro Sirota never ignored one thing that Obama did and made up ways to be outraged but he wants us to let everything Donald says pass?

Someone’s slip is showing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:53:36am

re: #264 b.d.

“Unqualified” got diminished by overuse so badly over so many elections both national and local we forgot what it really should represent in our minds. Now, we know thanks to Donald Trump. It may be the death of some of us, but there it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:55:24am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:55:29am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m surprised they didn’t list the entire Republican Party as a threat to human rights. Because it has to be coming…

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b.d.  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:57:02am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lol, I see that Sirota finally got his dream job at Greenwald’s FirstLook.

Shocked and so fitting, it sure is nice to have all of those dudebros in one, easily ignorable, place

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:57:57am
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sagehen  Jan 14, 2017 • 7:59:27am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

He’s a fucking loose cannon. A lot of people though George W. Bush was illegitimate too and Bush to his credit and I say this as someone who hated the sketchiness that surrounded the 2000 election never went out of his way to attack those people the way Trump has Lewis.

Scalia did.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:01:34am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No Trump just assumes because he’s black that he must represent a crime infested hellhole.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:01:44am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:02:00am

re: #296 sagehen

Scalia did.

Yeah and Scalia was from the same classless school Trump is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:02:38am

BTW, the @OANN tagged as the source in DT’s tweet, is the crazy conservative “news network” that just hired Corey Lewandowski as a political commentator.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:04:28am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, the @OANN tagged as the source in DT’s tweet, is the crazy conservative “news network” that just hired Corey Lewandowski as a political commentator.

One News was consciously designed to be an amplifier in the echo chamber.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:04:39am

It really is only going to get worse. Trump next week isn’t going to suddenly act remotely presidential. He’s still going to be a thin skinned brat.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:04:53am

re: #301 Decatur Deb

One News was consciously designed to be an amplifier in the echo chamber.

I guess FNC was too liberal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:05:53am

re: #301 Decatur Deb

One News was consciously designed to be an amplifier in the echo chamber.

They once announced that Sarah Palin would host a show there, but her on-air tryout there was too wretched, even for them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:08:31am

What to do Inaguration day… Can’t go to protest gotta work. Can schedule a Page to hit right at the moment Donald swears in. The Page might include this image.

Greater than Donald, greater than bigotry

So thanks to how well Pages work, that tweets at the same moment. What if a lot of us posted this, that moment on all our networks? Maybe short of on the server at work, bad time to lose a good job. We all have our favorites, Instagram, Snapchat, whatever came out last week the kids have not told me about. If you don’t like the poster, maybe the new gold coin, with the beautiful African American woman on the front and a flying eagle on the back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:08:47am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

They once announced that Sarah Palin would host a show there, but her on-air tryout there was too wretched, even for them.

I think she’s too wretched even for Trump. I wonder if she’s going to be angry that he appears to have promised her a cabinet post but she’s not going to get one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:09:34am

re: #305 Unshaken Defiance

What to do Inaguration day… Can’t go to protest gotta work. Can schedule a Page to hit right at the moment Donald swears in. The Page might include this image.

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So thanks to how well Pages work, that tweets at the same moment. What if a lot of us posted this, that moment on all our networks? Maybe short of on the server at work, bad time to lose a good job. We all have our favorites, Instagram, Snapchat, whatever came out last week the kids have not told me about. If you don’t like the poster, maybe the new gold coin, with the beautiful African American woman on the front and a flying eagle on the back.

Poster’s beautiful as is the sentiment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:11:00am

I think @realDonaldTrump really thought we would all simply just bow down, like Omarosa opined. John Lewis didn’t bow & neither will we!

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:12:27am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

You’re kidding, right? They have the fcking Rage Furby helping them select people. She’s the worst choice for almost anything (except the Big Gulp Protection Agency, maybe?), therefore she would be a shoo-in.

Kakistocracy and Kyriarchy

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:12:47am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course, she feels that way about Trump. She owes her notoriety to Trump’s stupid reality show. Otherwise, she’d just be another person.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:13:48am

re: #309 I cannot.

You’re kidding, right? They have the fcking Rage Furby helping them select people. She’s the worst choice for almost anything (except the Big Gulp Protection Agency, maybe?), therefore she would be a shoo-in.

Kakistocracy and Kyriarchy

I was kinda kidding but I am shocked she hasn’t gotten a job. But yeah that tehy have rage furby helping with the hiring process is just a mindboggle in its own right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:14:12am

Such strange times we live in. All’s changed utterly.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:15:44am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has the always ready with a put-down Kellyanne Conway said anything about John Lewis’ remarks?

Or, is this one taking her some time to conjure up a snarky whopper?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:16:43am

This thread:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:22:52am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s almost like he’s not qualified for the job and it shows in how he handles the transition.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:23:00am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Of course, she feels that way about Trump. She owes her notoriety to Trump’s stupid reality show. Otherwise, she’d just be another person.

I watched the first season of that show; my most vivid memory of it is when one of the other contestants said something to Omarosa about “the pot calling the kettle black” and she threw a righteous shit-fit about what a terribly racist thing that was to say to her….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:24:47am

re: #317 sagehen

I watched the first season of that show; my most vivid memory of it is when one of the other contestants said something to Omarosa about “the pot calling the kettle black” and she threw a righteous shit-fit about what a terribly racist thing that was to say to her….

And now she works for a man who associates black with crime. I never watched that show so I enver knew about that.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:25:38am

re: #317 sagehen

And the Basket of Deplorables say WE call racism all the time?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:26:54am

re: #319 I cannot.

And the Basket of Deplorables say WE call racism all the time?

Saw a meme that made me laugh the other day. Had a picture of one of those open conceal nuts with the caption: You need a gun to go to the grocery store? But you call me snowflake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:30:36am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:36:23am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let’s all ignore David Sirota…I do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:37:10am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:39:18am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brendan Boyle ✔ @RepBrendanBoyle
.@repjohnlewis is a hero and I’m lucky to call him a colleague. You sir are not half the man he is. @realDonaldTrump


8:07 AM - 14 Jan 2017
673 673 Retweets 1,178 1,178 likes

Half???

Too much.

One-eighth…and that is taking into consideration the tiny hands and the big mouth.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:39:49am

re: #248 Decatur Deb

A couple of years ago some Anniston progressives (Yes, there are too.) pushed for a monument to the Freedom Riders. A “placeholder” marker was erected and vandalized within days.

For anyone who hasn’t seen it, the PBS Freedom Riders doc. (Freedom Summer is also excellent)

pbs.org

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:41:03am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Andrea Chalupa @AndreaChalupa
My 9 year old niece shook John Lewis’s hand on a field trip and later said she never wanted to wash her hand again. Kids know real heroes.


10:26 AM - 14 Jan 2017
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Chalupa, huh.

That name sounds Mexican.

Disqualified!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:41:56am

In my darker moments, I really hope the preppers are right and we are facing an imminent collapse of society. I have always tried to help the homeless, and getting to know some of them has been a real eye-opener, but what do you do if the proverbial stuff hits the fan and arrogant banksters, money grubbers, and fake status seekers come to your door begging? I wonder if I would see it as payback time. A lot of better prepared and more resourceful people will, you know. Hey, yuppies, eat your SUVs and keep your Mcmansions warm by burning your trashy furniture. It’s all mortgaged anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:41:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:43:02am

re: #327 ObserverArt

heads up:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:43:57am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:44:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:44:30am

bitter felon haz an opinion:

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:45:28am

re: #298 Unshaken Defiance

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:50:11am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

The number of “punch on sight” Republicans just keeps growing.

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:53:22am

So, I visited our neighbors at wonkette.com and I found this little gem

Racism and Stupidity cranked to 11

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:54:17am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:54:30am

re: #334 ObserverArt

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:55:30am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

They once announced that Sarah Palin would host a show there, but her on-air tryout there was too wretched, even for them.

Wasn’t that gig as a fill-in for Tomi Lahren?

OANN has the best people—the very best.
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:55:41am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

heads up:

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Been watching the forecasts since last night. So far nothing and it is 34° right now, now it says we could be going down to 32° but drying out. A close shave here on Interstate 70…the Ohio Ice Line!

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:57:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:57:26am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

bitter felon haz an opinion:

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You’re one to talk about bitterness, Dinesh given you’ve made the same pathetic movie about Obama and Clinton twice. As for “minor.” He was Chairman of the SNCC in his mid 20’s. Hardly a minor player. Go away.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:58:00am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

I think she’s too wretched even for Trump. I wonder if she’s going to be angry that he appears to have promised her a cabinet post but she’s not going to get one.

But, but she just launched a new website/blog that’s going to change the entire media world. (It’s a terrible site, mostly an aggregator, filled with clickbait ads, and the “store” sells only her idiotic books and those of her idiotic family.)

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 8:58:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:01:31am

re: #343 BeachDem

But, but she just launched a new website/blog that’s going to change the entire media world. (It’s a terrible site, mostly an aggregator, filled with clickbait aids, and the “store” sells only her idiotic books and those of her idiotic family.)

Are we talking about Caribou Barbie?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:01:33am

re: #344 Belafon

I wouldn’t take that bet no matter the odds.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:01:46am

re: #172 teleskiguy

Idiots.

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This is what we run up against, and also why we have to once again watch: Not all local papers are good about covering what’s important.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:02:44am

Kentucky’s Secretary of State:

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:02:49am

re: #204 JasonA

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Someone should write a twitter bot that replies with that picture to Trump’s first tweets of the day.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:07:59am

re: #345 Dr Lizardo

Are we talking about Caribou Barbie?

The same—I didn’t put a link because why give her clicks (there’s no there there). It’s her idiot name dot com—and apparently she must have bought/coerced the domain from somebody who bought it in 2004 and sat on it for awhile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:08:39am

indeed:

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:10:28am
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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:10:33am

re: #279 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Isn’t Tingle the author who has his followers attempting to skrew up the Hugo Award nomination and voting process?

Actually, no. A bunch of neo-Nazis, racists, sexists, and deplorables led by Vox Day staged a multi-year attempt to destroy the Hugos by nominating garbage they’d written. One of the books they picked to nominate was a book written by Tingle. They’d hoped to use this to embarrass the Hugos. Tingle, however, wanted nothing to do with Vox and his goons and has done plenty of work humiliating the deplorables.

Chuck Tingle writes cartoonish, surreal gay porn, and he’s one of the Good Guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:10:51am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:12:18am

re: #350 BeachDem

The same—I didn’t put a link because why give her clicks (there’s no there there). It’s her idiot name dot com—and apparently she must have bought/coerced the domain from somebody who bought it in 2004 and sat on it for awhile.

I figured it was her.

I doubt Trump would want to have anything to do with her; he has enough sense to recognize she was little more than a political one-hit wonder who’s 15 minutes expired long ago.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:12:30am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky’s Secretary of State:

[Embedded content]

That’s Alison “won’t say if she voted for Obama” Grimes?

Too little, too late. Fuck her.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:13:01am
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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:19:07am

Also—why does it take the yam so long to finish a sentence? (17 minutes between part 1 of his hateful, idiotic tweet and part 2)

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:20:07am

re: #358 BeachDem

He lost his train of thought and has to be told what to type.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:20:46am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:20:53am

re: #353 scottslemmons

Ok. That’s good to know. I was only following that very peripherally and thought Tingle was in it somehow. Did not mean to malign him.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:24:28am

re: #233 ElaineBenis

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:27:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:29:44am
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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:34:33am

re: #361 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ok. That’s good to know. I was only following that very peripherally and thought Tingle was in it somehow. Did not mean to malign him.

No worries — Vox’s stunt ended up showing lots of people how cool Tingle actually was. This article about his latest AMA is really pretty awesome. :)

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Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:35:52am

Trump inauguration workers cover “Don’s Johns” port-a-potties labels “to avoid confusion”

thehill.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:37:51am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe Trump shouldn’t tweet stupid shit. He chooses to use it as his way of communicating. Tough shit. People can and do get fired for shit they post on Facebook so why shouldn’t Trump get called out when eh posts stupid shit on Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:38:00am

Less than 20 minutes now:

Facebook Post

Direct link to feed

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:38:16am

re: #366 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

thehill.com

Ha!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:39:39am

re: #366 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

thehill.com

I read something last night that the company was sending workers out to remove the tape.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:40:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:40:59am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:41:29am

re: #341 Belafon

Peter Capaldi had an interview where he discussed Trump a bit.

What would the Doctor make of Donald Trump?
He would find him hilarious. Up to a point. I think we have reached that point where he is no longer funny. But the Doctor would be able to deal with him. I think the Doctor would certainly be able to recommend a better hairdresser. Imagine having all that money and that is the hairstyle you choose! Surely that says something. He has got his priorities wrong. He should have spent 2016 looking for a better hairdresser. Obviously there is a humorous underbelly to it all but, yes, I think it is more important we remain alert to the threats to our society and values. But also having a laugh when we can.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:41:34am

re: #278 sagehen

So Senator Ben Nelson was figment of our imagination? The Blue Dog Dems are more conservative than anybody California or New York would ever elect, but they are nonetheless Dems. And when we’re counting votes for Senate Majority Leader, or deciding who’ll chair the committees, a Blue Dog is every bit as Dem as Nancy Pelosi.

Nelson insisted on provisions that gutted the ACA. He’s the reason even women who purchase ACA exchange plans entirely on their own, i.e. those who don’t qualify for a single dollar in government subsidy, have to pay extra for abortion coverage. He then voted against the final version of the ACA reconciliation bill because it contained a provision that sought to help student loan borrowers at the expense of a single Nebraska based lender. He voted against confirming Kagan, the only Democrat to do so.

Let’s not pretend he was some great ally or asset. He was the poster child for how bending over backwards to appeal to shit-heel conservatives can backfire upon, compromise and undermine liberal policy efforts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:43:37am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:45:06am

re: #363 Bubblehead II

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spacex.com

Thanks for putting up the launch links Bibblehead II. I can count on you to keep us all aware of SpaceX.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:47:59am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who?

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:51:18am

re: #376 ObserverArt

Thanks for putting up the launch links Bibblehead II. I can count on you to keep us all aware of SpaceX.

Your welcome. I try. Would have missed this one except I am on staycay this week.

T-4

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:51:48am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Maybe Trump shouldn’t tweet stupid shit. He chooses to use it as his way of communicating. Tough shit. People can and do get fired for shit they post on Facebook so why shouldn’t Trump get called out when eh posts stupid shit on Twitter.

Unpossible!

Amazing Trump has everyone sign non-disclosure agreements but he can’t control his own mouth. It will be his undoing.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:53:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:53:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:53:32am

re: #374 goddamnedfrank

Nelson insisted on provisions that gutted the ACA. He’s the reason even women who purchase ACA exchange plans entirely on their own, i.e. those who don’t qualify for a single dollar in government subsidy, have to pay extra for abortion coverage. He then voted against the final version of the reconciliation bill because it contained a provision that sought to help student loan borrowers at the expense of a single Nebraska based lender. He voted against confirming Kagan, the only Democrat to do so.

Let’s not pretend he was some great ally or asset. He was the poster child for how bending over backwards to appeal to shit-heel conservatives can backfire, compromise and undermine liberal policy efforts.

Right, I understand the reason why conservative and moderate Dems exist but I don’t think Nelson is the best example here. Anyhow, I think the point is that the way the Dems are going to eventually if ever competitive in those places is through the local dems not the national Dems. And as I said earlier, my point to AM about Evangelicals was really to Ziggy who has had a bad habit of generalizing people in a way that would rightfully upset him if it was Muslims. I’m no fan of the Evangelical community but I do believe individuals are individuals. And I agree with you Frank about the resources issue. Nebraska is by its own choice a bright red state. I’m not saying we ignore it all together but the people who will turn it an even lighter shade of red aren’t going to be national Dems, they’re going to be local ones. Frustrating that two months later, this still isn’t being understood.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:53:36am

Light that candle!!!

5…4…3…2…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:54:25am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Props to Steele. I think he’s bit of an ass in many a way but he’s not malignant like Trump is.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:55:11am

Ignition I liftoff

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:55:15am
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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:56:54am

Max Q

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:57:24am

On CSPAN right now: Cornell Brooks speaking at the NAACP protest rally in DC

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:57:59am

1 stage seperation 2nd stage ignition

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:58:23am
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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:58:31am

Now lets see if they can land the 1st stage.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:58:46am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 9:59:30am

Man, that is a real rush hearing the SpaceX crew cheer when the stages separated.

Nice launch…that was beautiful.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:01:12am

re: #392 Timothy Watson

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Nitpik, the Nazis never marched through Skokie. They won the right to in court but never did, chose to march through Chicago instead.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:01:40am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Right now that second monitor really pays off.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:01:52am

boostback burn

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I cannot.  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:02:15am

re: #394 goddamnedfrank

Either way, I hate Illinois Nazis.

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EmmaAnne  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:02:28am

re: #279 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Isn’t Tingle the author who has his followers attempting to skrew up the Hugo Award nomination and voting process?

No, not at all. Those Rabid Puppy folks nominated one of his porny books to mess with the Hugos and now he writes Hugo Nominated Author on all his covers. He is a pretty funny guy, though a terrible writer (IMO).

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:02:57am

re: #396 Bubblehead II

boostback burn

Cool to see the stabilizers move and steer

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:03:09am

Landing burn

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:03:33am

Nailed it!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:03:38am

What a view from the rocket!!!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:04:51am

re: #401 Bubblehead II

Nailed it!

A thing of beauty from launch to landing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:05:33am

Boom (well, not really).

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:06:03am

Nailed the first stage landing on the recovery vessel. And we get to watch it guide in and land live.

Simply amazing.

This former junior model rocketeer is highly impressed. Way to go SpaceX!

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:06:31am

re: #403 Dr Lizardo

A thing of beauty from launch to landing.

Yep. Now they just need to have a successful deployment of the satellites for it to be 100%

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:07:51am

re: #405 ObserverArt

We’ve come a long way since Big Bertha.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:08:28am

re: #405 ObserverArt

Estes rockets were a lot of fun.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:08:31am

re: #392 Timothy Watson

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We reward hate speech now. Milo gets invited to college campuses. I do think hate speech is free speech but at the same time, I have no problem at all with counter-protesters protesting hateful assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:09:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:10:20am

And for those who contend that in their day, no one whined. Fucking please. People threw violent fits over African Americans moving to their neighborhoods. People were so threatened by African Americans registering to vote that they engaged in domestic terrorism. So STFU before you call my generation a generation of whienrs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:11:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:12:52am
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:18:40am

A Texas sheriff says that a New Mexico hunting guide and his client who were wounded by gunfire on a hunting trip near the Mexican border last week may have shot each other — countering an account that “illegals” attacked them.

[…]

¿Las noticias falsas?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:18:53am

re: #390 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

I had to go search to find out why:

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ElaineBenis  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:20:27am

re: #362 Stanley Sea

re: #362 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:23:10am

re: #416 ElaineBenis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:28:59am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:30:56am

re: #407 GlutenFreeJesus

We’ve come a long way since Big Bertha.

I wish I had some images of all the rockets we used to build for competition. I was big in scale modeling. I built a complete Thiokal Tomahawk weather rocket 1:12th scale with launch platform, A Sandhawk sounding rocket from Sandia Labs and a Shotput which was a part of the U.S. Army Sergeant program.

The Sandhawk was almost 3’ tall, weighed almost a pound and was propelled by a Flight Systems F-100 engine that put that sucker out of sight. It popped the chute perfectly and then caught a thermal on a warm day and floated over a pine forest never to be seen again. Sigh.

I was lucky to work with Ohio State’s Doctor of Aeronautics, an engineer from Rockwell when they were still here in Columbus and a buddy that got me into the sport that later worked for Boeing and recently retired.

We as a club kicked ass in competition because of all that knowledge. It was great, got to fly in two national competitions, one in Houston at The NASA Manned Spacecraft Center and the other at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland.

Even though I am an artist by trade and at heart, I never shied away from engineering. I guess that is why someone like Leonardo da Vinci was always something to shoot for.

And then I also remember the dean of CCAD, the art college I went to that said…”Engineers can design the function and artists make it look good!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:31:22am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:43:08am

re: #331 GlutenFreeJesus

well done!


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