The FBI and 5 Other Agencies Are Investigating Russia’s Efforts to Help Donald Trump Gain Power

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McClatchy reports today that there’s an active investigation under way into Russian attempts to skew the presidential election toward Donald Trump.

The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.

The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said.

Note that the allegation of funneling money through Russian-American pensioners was part of the Trump “golden showers” dossier — so the FBI and other agencies obviously put enough credence in that dossier to investigate it.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:47:24am

Shut down every Trump/GOP proposal until this is addressed.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:47:53am

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:49:56am

Investigations to cease January 20, 2017, at 12:01 pm per written order from POTUS.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:50:36am

Wat I really want investigated is whether Comey was in contact with anyone from the Trump Campaign or Russia when he decided to unleash his October Surprise on Clinton.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:51:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:52:09am

My own personal theory, FWIW:

Trump visited Russia a number of times since the fall of the USSR, hoping to do yooge, terrific, classy deals.

Being the scammer that he is, he attempted to do yooge, terrific, classy scams on Russian investors who were connected to the mob.

Trump gets in deep over his head with the Russian mob. They are not pleased.

Putin tells his homeys “I got this, brothers” & pulls Trumps ass out of the fire, but he owns Trump for life.

Is there anything wrong with this theory? Just throwing stuff out there.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:53:17am

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

When someone publishes your phone number, did they make all those people call?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:53:41am

question to POTUS now about Israeli settlements and moving embassy to Jerusalem.

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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:53:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:56:14am
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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:56:26am

Surprisingly the cheeto benito hasn’t tweeted anything………………………….yet.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:57:05am

Note that the allegation of funneling money through Russian-American pensioners was part of the Trump “golden showers” dossier — so the FBI and other agencies obviously put enough credence in that dossier to investigate it.

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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:58:46am

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

You mean, did they have people in voting booths? What are you asking for? Proof on paper of Russian misdeeds? Besides reports from the FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies?

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sagehen  Jan 18, 2017 • 11:59:07am

re: #3 Timothy Watson

Investigations to cease January 20, 2017, at 12:01 pm per written order from POTUS.

Investigations by American agencies to cease that day.

Investigations by British, French, German, Israeli, Scandanavian, Canadian, Chinese, etc agencies to continue. And those results will be published.

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nines09  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:00:35pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Note that the allegation of funneling money through Russian-American pensioners was part of the Trump “golden showers” dossier — so the FBI and other agencies obviously put enough credence in that dossier to investigate it.

I wonder if Golden Showers will be a inside code nickname in security for Emperor Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:00:53pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

You mean, did they have people in voting booths? What are you asking for? Proof on paper of Russian misdeeds? Besides reports from the FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies?

PROOFS that the Russians tampered with voting machines and scanners instead of merely mindfucking the voters.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:01:28pm
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jhncsy  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:01:44pm

re: #4 Big Beautiful Door

Wat I really want investigated is whether Comey was in contact with anyone from the Trump Campaign or Russia when he decided to unleash his October Surprise on Clinton.

I think it’s more likely that Comey was with the Republicans in general, as opposed to the Trump campaign. I keep hearing stories about how the New York FBI kept trying to find something on Clinton to bring her down, and Comey- rather than doing his fucking job- wanted to get on their good sides.

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Jack Burton  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:03:45pm

Pizzagate is so over the top, cartoonishly, clown shoes ridiculous, it should be an instant flag to dismiss anything someone says without comment, even to morons.

I’d think even Alex Jones would think “whoa, take it down a notch Broseph” over something this stupid. Guess not.

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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:04:50pm

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

Hey, I didn’t shoot that guy in the head, it was my friend. Sure, I put the idea in his hand, and I gave him the gun, and I even set up the scene to make the shooting easier. But you can’t prove that I pulled the trigger, so you got nothin’ on me!

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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:05:20pm

re: #19 Jack Burton

Pizzagate is so over the top, cartoonishly, clown shoes ridiculous, it should be an instant flag to dismiss anything someone says without comment, even to morons.

I’d think even Alex Jones would think “whoa, take it down a notch Broseph” over something this stupid. Guess not.

I’m pretty sure Alex Jones was one of the early adopters of the ‘Pizzagate’ psychosis.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:06:13pm

Anybody else loose the WH feed?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:06:14pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

My own personal theory, FWIW:

Trump visited Russia a number of times since the fall of the USSR, hoping to do yooge, terrific, classy deals.

Being the scammer that he is, he attempted to do yooge, terrific, classy scams on Russian investors who were connected to the mob.

Trump gets in deep over his head with the Russian mob. They are not pleased.

Putin tells his homeys “I got this, brothers” & pulls Trumps ass out of the fire, but he owns Trump for life.

Is there anything wrong with this theory? Just throwing stuff out there.

Only a lack of evidence.

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Semper Fi  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:08:14pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

That’s completely believable as you laid it out. He could easily find himself in some high-profile jam.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:08:17pm

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

Yes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:09:18pm

POTUS notes more than half the Olympic medals last time were won by women in a large part because our country had the foresight decades ago to institute Title IX to encourage women in sports.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:09:44pm

re: #22 Bubblehead II

Anybody else loose the WH feed?

I’m watching CSPAN

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:11:13pm

“we’re the only developed country that makes it harder to vote than easy…reason traces directly back to Jim Crow” — POTUS

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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:12:08pm

The big thing for me about this story is the lack of attention it’s getting in the press. From the moment an investigation was announced into Hillary’s emails, the press went fucking wild and the assumption was that there was “something” there if the DOJ was launching an investigation. Hell, the media gave her shit for calling it a security review, insisting on calling it a criminal investigation in order to maintain the perception that she had committed a crime and the DOJ was deciding whether or not to prosecute her for it. Even when Comey gave his long editorial about how horrible she was but she hadn’t committed a crime, the press acted as if she’d just gotten away with murder.

But now you have multiple agencies including the FBI looking into allegations alone and…nothing. The media’s slow-walking it as if they know that the kibosh will be put on it any day now and people will have forgotten about it in six months.

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nines09  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

Just think. The next Presidential press conference will sound nothing like this. It will be an infomercial on all the marvelous things Trump already has done and will do. In crayon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

“voter fraud has been consistently disproved.” — POTUS

voter fraud is fake news — POTUS

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:12:29pm

re: #23 Big Beautiful Door

Only a lack of evidence.

A complete lack of evidence or consistent with evidence that we do have?

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ericblair  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:13:33pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Putin tells his homeys “I got this, brothers” & pulls Trumps ass out of the fire, but he owns Trump for life.

Is there anything wrong with this theory? Just throwing stuff out there.

I guess my problem with it is that Lil Donnie doesn’t do gratitude, and blows up at threats. If someone tries to threaten him now, he’s got Secret Service protection. If they try to collect on a debt, good fucking luck. If they try to blackmail him, I don’t think anybody knows quite what he’ll do, but him quietly doing the reasonable thing seems a bad bet.

My guess is that he’s had a bunch of shady deals with the Russians, but he likes Putin because he’s a shirtless bear-riding guy that don’t take no shit and has huge classy houses with gold crap all over them, and he’s been whispering sweet nothings in the yam’s ear. Nothing deeper.

However, I don’t think this is going to go well, and I’m worried that it can get seriously bad. Both of these upstanding leaders are thin-skinned narcissistic bullies, which is not a good start to the relationship. Trump’s already tried to DO A DEAL: the US will drop sanctions in exchange for reductions in Russian nukes. Kremlin says go fuck yerself, they want sanctions lifted for free. No deal.

Russia has little that the West actually wants, and won’t give up anything the West would want anyways. Guess they expect their little poodle to jump when they say jump, and even Captain Stupid is going to figure that out pretty fast.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:13:55pm

re: #30 nines09

Crying.

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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:14:31pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

The big thing for me about this story is the lack of attention it’s getting in the press. From the moment an investigation was announced into Hillary’s emails, the press went fucking wild and the assumption was that there was “something” there if the DOJ was launching an investigation. Hell, the media gave her shit for calling it a security review, insisting on calling it a criminal investigation in order to maintain the perception that she had committed a crime and the DOJ was deciding whether or not to prosecute her for it. Even when Comey gave his long editorial about how horrible she was but she hadn’t committed a crime, the press acted as if she’d just gotten away with murder.

But now you have multiple agencies including the FBI looking into allegations alone and…nothing. The media’s slow-walking it as if they know that the kibosh will be put on it any day now and people will have forgotten about it in six months.

Two things:
1) IOKIYAR
2) “Hillary, therefore evil”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:15:05pm
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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:16:48pm

Last question

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:19:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:20:22pm

re: #37 Bubblehead II

Last question

part of his answer:

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:21:13pm

VOTE YOU BASTARDS!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:21:49pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

A complete lack of evidence or consistent with evidence that we do have?

Lack of evidence of Trump pulling one of his scam deals on Russian investors, evidence of Putin buying his debts from the Russian mob, evidence of Putin communicating with Trump. Other than that, great theory!

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:21:52pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Note that the allegation of funneling money through Russian-American pensioners was part of the Trump “golden showers” dossier — so the FBI and other agencies obviously put enough credence in that dossier to investigate it.

Hm. Here in LA, if you talk to the old retired Russians who congregate in Plummer Park near “Little Moscow” in WeHo, they *do* talk proudly about how easy it is to fake up multiple identities to collect pensions for people who either don’t exist, or who have died.

Dunno if they use these ill-gotten gains to fund haxx0rz here in the U.S. Could happen, I guess. However, the Russian Mafia is deeply, deeply involved in these types of scams. Typically, they take the lion’s share of the pension monies, and give the stooge who is acting as a cut-out a percentage in the 25-35% range.

Basically, because the cut-outs have to pay taxes on the pension money, and they want to give them enough to do so to prevent the whole scam from being blown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:22:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:24:20pm
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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:24:27pm

It’s amazing how many nominees are getting the soft hand from the media for things that literally doomed nominees in previous transitions.

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:24:51pm

One is a threat to students’ education. The other is a bear.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:25:23pm

I love that image for this thread. I agree with whoever said it appears Trump is a wax figure in the last thread.

I also like how he curves the yellow pad up so you can’t see the blank paper.

Yes, we have a complete fake running our country starting on Friday.

I weep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:25:34pm

last press conference has finished.
I am really going to miss him.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:26:43pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“Somebody please escort Glenn Greenwald from the building.”

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:27:10pm

re: #45 Citizen K

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calochortus  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:27:25pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

I love that image for this thread. I agree with whoever said it appears Trump is a wax figure in the last thread.

I also like how he curves the yellow pad up so you can’t see the blank paper.

Yes, we have a complete fake running our country starting on Friday.

I weep.

Oh come now, don’t you always curve the pad up so you are writing on a wobbly surface instead of a nice solid desk?
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:27:27pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:27:50pm

re: #40 Kragar

[Embedded content]

VOTE YOU BASTARDS!

Only after I get my Pacific Rim sequels. And I might have to hold out for his In the Mouth of Madness adaption as well.

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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:28:50pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The job ages the fuck out of you. By 2020, Trump’s gonna look like something that was found floating in the Hudson River.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:29:23pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

last press conference has finished.
I am really going to miss him.

From Obama, one of the classiest men to ever grace the Oval Office, to it. I didn’t think it could happen, but who would’ve guessed Trump could win with only 46% of the vote?

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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:29:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:30:19pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The job ages the fuck out of you. By 2020, Trump’s gonna look like something that was found floating in the Hudson River.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:30:44pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

I have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:32:30pm

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

Oh look…you’re back for some more dodging and bending.

I know you won’t buy it because it is just not like you to be honest and realistic, but yes the Russians affected the casting of ballots which then affected the counting.

Here is how it worked. They put out deceptive stories the people bought such as Hillary was sick and not healthy enough for the office. They got the DNC emails to paint Hillary and the DNC as crooked and not running a legit campaign.

Stuff like that caused enough people to cast ballots for Trump. Once the ballots were counted Trump pulled off a victory that was extremely close in three states that really counted and could have turned the vote for Hillary.

I am sure you have a grasp of how stupid people fall for things like this.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:32:53pm
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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:34:14pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:34:30pm

re: #58 Kragar

I have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

Hey now, if you don’t hold directors to their promises, you get three Avatar sequels instead of a Battle Angel Alita adaptation. You gotta keep a firm hand with this bunch.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:34:31pm
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Tarkloon  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:35:21pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

PROOFS that the Russians tampered with voting machines and scanners instead of merely mindfucking the voters.

That distinction is important, because it’s the fallback dodge that Trump uses every time to deflect questioning. He states that the Russians did not affect the election (meaning they don’t have any evidence of vote tampering,) while ignoring the very overt and obious negative propaganda war against Hillary’s ticket.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:35:46pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The job ages the fuck out of you. By 2020, Trump’s gonna look like something that was found floating in the Hudson River.

My prediction is that Trump won’t get aged by the office of the presidency. The cares of high office are irrelevant for a sociopath.

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stpaulbear  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:35:47pm

Trump’s face in that picture reminds me of this pose by Lloyd Bridges in Airplane, except that Bridges was cool, good looking, and he was intentionally hamming it up for the scene.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:37:40pm

re: #64 Thanos

That distinction is important, because it’s the fallback dodge that Trump uses every time to deflect questioning. He states that the Russians did not affect the election (meaning they don’t have any evidence of that,) while ignoring the very overt and obious negative propaganda war against Hillary’s ticket.

And that DT asked Russia to interfere, hack Dem info, gabbed incessantly about WIKILEAKS during his rallies. If the hacking and info was all irrelevant, then why did DT make such an effort to publicize it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:40:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:41:21pm

Russians, Comey both affected the outcome of the election.

BUT how many votes did Hillary lose because of the new Jim Crow state voting laws and the removal of polling places, and cutbacks in early voting? Might the depressed turnout for her reflect those Republican outrages and lead to her “loss” .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:43:00pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:43:29pm

re: #64 Thanos

That distinction is important, because it’s the fallback dodge that Trump uses every time to deflect questioning. He states that the Russians did not affect the election (meaning they don’t have any evidence of that,) while ignoring the very overt and obious negative propaganda war against Hillary’s ticket.

And everyone who asks the question is helping Yellow Hair to sow doubt and helping the Russians undermine us. And earning a downding. (It’s the least I can do.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:45:25pm
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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:46:41pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:46:48pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Peter Daou ✔ @peterdaou
Did anyone else catch the look of deep concern and sadness that crossed over Barack Obama’s face as he walked out of his final presser?
3:30 PM - 18 Jan 2017
46 46 Retweets 152 152 likes

I couldn’t watch. It would be too painful for me. And yet, I still choked up just reading this thread.

Maybe getting older makes me more emotional. Yeah that must be it.

Well, that and knowing The United States of America is under attack.

From within.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:46:56pm

:(

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:47:31pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

UGH that gif is annoying because there is no way to make it stop looping that I can see once you start it. (This is a complaint towards ABC and not you.)

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:49:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:50:05pm

re: #76 klys (maker of Silmarils)

UGH that gif is annoying because there is no way to make it stop looping that I can see once you start it. (This is a complaint towards ABC and not you.)

I didn’t know that. I have to click on it to make it start.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:51:06pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

I didn’t know that. I have to click on it to make it start.

Oh, yeah, I have to click to make it start, but then they’re doing some weird “your mouse movement controls the playback” thing and I can’t find any way to make it stop short of refreshing the comment. Which I did.

Thanks Charles, for saving us from stupid gif loop technology.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:51:13pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Frank just realized Obama will be out of office in two days and Trump will be in. Frank doesn’t like Trump and to show his displeasure he is scratching the hell out of a basket because it was there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:52:06pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh, yeah, I have to click to make it start, but then they’re doing some weird “your mouse movement controls the playback” thing and I can’t find any way to make it stop short of refreshing the comment. Which I did.

Thanks Charles, for saving us from stupid gif loop technology.

refresh the comment, I made it stop that way

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Interesting Times  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:52:12pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Not to be morbid, but imagine if George HW Bush passed away on inauguration day itself. Trump would be outraged at being “upstaged”…

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:52:38pm

Ya know, there’s a base rate issue where it ain’t fuckin’ roses if a foreign intelligence agency is merely messing with private individuals and organizations inside our nation via disinformation campaigns.

And the fact it’s not dicking with the votes themselves does not change the apparent targeting a specific political party by a foreign intelligence service.

Separate matter…all the little hints that the Trump campaign coordinated with Wikileaks—such as Roger Stone’s boasting—are their own can of worms, even if Wikileaks wasn’t compromised.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:53:15pm

re: #76 klys (maker of Silmarils)

UGH that gif is annoying because there is no way to make it stop looping that I can see once you start it. (This is a complaint towards ABC and not you.)

Doesn’t hitting the refresh comment button stop it?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:54:55pm

We can expect Comey’s public letter to Congress updating the status of the investigation forthwith, right? Right??!?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:55:18pm

re: #83 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Ya know, there’s a base rate issue where it ain’t fuckin’ roses if a foreign intelligence agency is merely messing with private individuals and organizations inside our nation via disinformation campaigns.

And the fact it’s not dicking with the votes themselves does not change the apparent targeting a specific political party by a foreign intelligence service.

Separate matter…all the little hints that the Trump campaign coordinated with Wikileaks—such as Roger Stone’s boasting—are their own can of worms, even if Wikileaks wasn’t compromised.

The burglary at the Watergate 45 years ago was a crime. How is the hacking of the DNC not also a crime ONLY EVEN WORSE, since committed by a foreign power instead of just common thieves?

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:56:06pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

Not to be morbid, but imagine if George HW Bush passed away on inauguration day itself. Trump would be outraged at being “upstaged”…

Did that not happen to Nixon when LBJ passed away???

And I don’t mean Nixon was outraged, but it did put a somber tone to his inauguration.

Maybe I have that wrong. Anyone?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:56:41pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Did that not happen to Nixon when LBJ passed away???

And I don’t mean Nixon was outraged, but it did put a somber tone to his inauguration.

Maybe I have that wrong. Anyone?

Your memory is correct.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:56:55pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Stuff like that caused enough people to cast ballots for Trump. Once the ballots were counted Trump pulled off a victory that was extremely close in three states that really counted and could have turned the vote for Hillary.

I am sure you have a grasp of how stupid people fall for things like this.

Ballots for Trump, or in the case of at least one acquaintance of mine, a vote for Johnson instead of Clinton — in Wisconsin, where it actually mattered.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:58:12pm
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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:58:35pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Goes to the fact that hacking/phishing is a “white collar” crime, and it tougher to investigate, prosecute, etc., as compared to the garden variety burglary, which is a physical crime. And the media has done its best to make hacking/phishing out to be something less serious than a national security threat when it is directed at a political party/candidates with the intent to manipulate the election outcome with leaks of selective materials, materials stripped of context or otherwise manipulated, and otherwise lying about the contents of said materials.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:58:59pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:59:18pm

re: #89 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Ballots for Trump, or in the case of at least one acquaintance of mine, a vote for Johnson instead of Clinton — in Wisconsin, where it actually mattered.

That too. 107,000+ votes in three states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) and we all pay for it.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 18, 2017 • 12:59:44pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:00:59pm

re: #91 lawhawk

Goes to the fact that hacking/phishing is a “white collar” crime, and it tougher to investigate, prosecute, etc., as compared to the garden variety burglary, which is a physical crime. And the media has done its best to make hacking/phishing out to be something less serious than a national security threat when it is directed at a political party/candidates with the intent to manipulate the election outcome with leaks of selective materials, materials stripped of context or otherwise manipulated, and otherwise lying about the contents of said materials.

Also considered to be “kid stuff” or done by 400 lb guys in bed at their mothers house.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:02:35pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Also considered to be “kid stuff” or done by 400 lb guys in bed at their mothers house.

An object lesson in why you have to be careful in “The Cyber”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:03:09pm
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makeitstop  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:03:18pm

So…Voter votes for lying sack of shit, is appalled when she finds out lying sack of shit was lying, and now has regrets.

All I can muster is a hearty ‘Fuck you, Sherri Underwood.’

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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:05:48pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Did that not happen to Nixon when LBJ passed away???

And I don’t mean Nixon was outraged, but it did put a somber tone to his inauguration.

Maybe I have that wrong. Anyone?

No your right. Rachel Maddow did a segment about that. It happened during his second inauguration.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:06:00pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:06:45pm

re: #98 makeitstop

And she can’t even make the case she wants to make about Obamacare being awful:

When Obamacare first came into effect, I was excited to get what I thought would be financial help with my costly medicine and treatments. But when I signed up, my premium came back at an astronomical price, more than my monthly mortgage payment. This happened because I had to declare my husband’s salary as part of our household income, which put me in an earning bracket too high to qualify for any financial assistance. My husband works for a small business, and while he gets paid fairly, his company does not offer spousal insurance. I’m left with a premium of $893, so high that I can no longer afford the cost of my medicines and treatments on top of the monthly premiums. I wish I could opt out completely, but the penalty for not signing up is much too great.

In the end, I voted for Trump because he promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, and that was the most important issue to my own life. Looking back, I realize what a mistake it was. I ignored the pundits who repeated over and over again that he would not follow through on his promises, thinking they were spewing hysterics for better ratings. Sitting on my couch, my mouth agape at the words coming out his mouth on the TV before me, I realized just how wrong I was.

Her disease is a preexisting condition. She would not be able to get coverage, or would be paying even more for that limited coverage, without Obamacare. And since she lives in Texas, the state refused to expand Medicaid, which meant that if her income were below the threshold, she’d have qualified for that instead of needing the marketplace.

And her husband’s insurance is limited (because of course it is) so it can’t have a spouse on it.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:08:01pm

Uh oh, Kragar picked up a live one here. Fascinating how they latched onto that “ponytail” thing because Andrew Breitbart used it as an insult. Years later they’re still using it, and I still could not care less.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:08:36pm

Just discovered Rachel Maddow followed me on Twitter last night. Groovy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:08:45pm

re: #100 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Abortion-havin’ wimmenz lose their voting rights but apparently Texas elects human-anglerfish hybrids to their legislature

That fuckstick appears to belong to an extreme anti-choice gang “Abolish Human Abortion” which likens abortion to 19th century slavery but somehow escapes the illogic of enslaving actual women in order to achieve their “abolition”

They also use a logo that looks like a white power symbol

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Timothy Watson  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:09:01pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Uh oh, Kragar picked up a live one here. Fascinating how they latched onto that “ponytail” thing because Andrew Breitbart used it as an insult. Years later they’re still using it, and I still could not care less.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:10:17pm

re: #98 makeitstop

So…Voter votes for lying sack of shit, is appalled when she finds out lying sack of shit was lying, and now has regrets.

All I can muster is a hearty ‘Fuck you, Sherri Underwood.’

“…I’m a real political junkie, spending much of my day reading news and watching C-SPAN, and issues like immigration enforcement, pro-life laws, and health care are important to me.”

But somehow, even with all that interest in politics, she thought a doofus who inherited a fortune and almost lost it all running a couple of casinos into bankruptcy was a good choice.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:10:54pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Not showing up in my mentions. Don’t have him muted/blocked, so don’t know what is going on there

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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:11:34pm

re: #101 lawhawk

And her husband’s insurance is limited (because of course it is) so it can’t have a spouse on it.

And for all her complaining, she says his pay is fair.

This happened because I had to declare my husband’s salary as part of our household income, which put me in an earning bracket too high to qualify for any financial assistance. My husband works for a small business, and while he gets paid fairly, his company does not offer spousal insurance.

What she thinks is unfair is that she has to disclose it as household income. So unfair.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:11:56pm

re: #99 Bubblehead II

No your right. Rachel Maddow did a segment about that. It happened during his second inauguration.

That’s right. Now I remember why. I mistakenly voted for Nixon in my first election having just turned 18 a few months before the election. Ugh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:12:15pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll take Unconstitutional as Fuck for $500, Alex…

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:12:37pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Somehow, I bet losing the right to privacy is something he really wouldn’t want.

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stpaulbear  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:14:02pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It is true that behind closed doors, I curse more.” — President Obama

I SO want his first book to be titled “Can You Believe This Shit?”

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:14:33pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Just discovered Rachel Maddow followed me on Twitter last night. Groovy.

Maybe she will start referring to the site in some of her reports.

Hopefully as an island of sanity and you get more members.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:15:53pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

I SO want his first book to be titled “Can You Believe This Shit?”

subtitled “No More Fucks To Give”

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Interesting Times  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:16:05pm

Reminder:

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Sir John Barron  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:17:00pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Uh oh, Kragar picked up a live one here. Fascinating how they latched onto that “ponytail” thing because Andrew Breitbart used it as an insult. Years later they’re still using it, and I still could not care less.

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Also “irrelevant”. Nobody goes there anymore or talks about them on Twitter.

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Targetpractice  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:17:14pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

That’s right. Now I remember why. I mistakenly voted for Nixon in my first election having just turned 18 a few months before the election. Ugh.

I voted for Dubya’s reelection as my first presidential election vote. So I’m right there with ya.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:17:37pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Just discovered Rachel Maddow followed me on Twitter last night. Groovy.

Cool.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:18:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:18:36pm

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:18:39pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

I SO want his first book to be titled “Can You Believe This Shit?”

“Eight years of putting up with these shitbirds”

“Garbage in Congress”

“The Empire of Lies”

I could come up with book titles for President Obama’s memoirs all day long.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:19:26pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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At least these Trumpoids are’t cult fanatics or anything like that.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:24:20pm

They’re all a bunch of fucking chiselers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:25:39pm

re: #77 lawhawk

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If he survives until Friday that will give us 6 living Presidents, tied for the most ever.

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:25:58pm

re: #123 jaunte

That would normally be considered a disqualifying act - at least before Trump.

Today? Naw, the GOP will rubber stamp the heck out of these unqualified people because it means the GOP gets opportunity to sabotage federal agency after agency.

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Anymouse  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:26:55pm

re: #117 Targetpractice

I voted for Dubya’s reelection as my first presidential election vote. So I’m right there with ya.

My first vote was for President Carter’s reëlection, and have voted for Democrats ever since (except when I was disenfranchised due to homelessness - I didn’t get to vote for President Obama in his first run).

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:28:33pm

Was it just me or did some of the reporters look on the verge of tears as certain questions were being asked?

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Anymouse  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:29:24pm

Gotta go into town … just wanted to check in. Music practice tonight.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:29:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:31:31pm
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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:32:11pm

Next he’ll do Jade Helm,The Reunion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:32:26pm

re: #19 Jack Burton

Pizzagate is so over the top, cartoonishly, clown shoes ridiculous, it should be an instant flag to dismiss anything someone says without comment, even to morons.

I’d think even Alex Jones would think “whoa, take it down a notch Broseph” over something this stupid. Guess not.

It is the logical outcome of a culture of slander that says nothing can be too over the top as long as it attacks Obama , Hillary or some other major Democrat.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:33:53pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:35:44pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The job ages the fuck out of you. By 2020, Trump’s gonna look like something that was found floating in the Hudson River.

So you’re saying he will be unaffected?

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KingKenrod  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:36:44pm

Predicting a massive loss of civic interest from right-wingers once the black guy is out of the White House. Also hoping they turn on Trump faster than they turned on W.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:37:15pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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No third term for Obama…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:37:33pm

re: #129 jaunte

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Wait…you mean Michael Weiner Savage got something wrong?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:37:54pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:38:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:38:46pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:39:00pm

re: #135 KingKenrod

Predicting a massive loss of civic interest from right-wingers once the black guy is out of the White House. Also hoping they turn on Trump faster than they turned on W.

Problem is, W had some degree of substance that they could turn on. They turn on Trump, he just evanesces and reappears in another, unassailable form.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:40:39pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buffalo Bayou straining its banks this morning.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:40:40pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Note that the allegation of funneling money through Russian-American pensioners was part of the Trump “golden showers” dossier — so the FBI and other agencies obviously put enough credence in that dossier to investigate it.

It’s come to light that the NYC FBI office was anti-Clinton to the point of questioning those agents’ sanity. They really, really hated her.

Also, Comey is a Whitewater veteran. That whole “investigation’s” sole purpose was to basically to throw Bill and Hillary Clinton in jail, at all costs. It’s really hard to believe that Comey’s October surprise involving the bullshit re-opening of OMG-EMAILZ-gate had nothing to do with that.

You’d have to be out of your fucking mind to trust the FBI to investigate the Russian electoral interference honestly at this point. Maybe if they bypass the NYC office and maybe if Comey is kept out of the loop, you might get to the truth.

On top of that, though, there’s nothing to stop Trump from getting rid of Comey and hiring someone even more in the bag for Trump.

Jesus Christ, in two days, this country governmentally turns into Russia; a nation run by a party that wants to keep a facist strong man in power at all costs. I will refuse to my dying day to ever forgive anyone who voted for this unqualified monster and to address him as “President”.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:40:53pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Allegro!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:46:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:47:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:49:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:51:28pm

Rep. Price refused to answer my question on his vote against protecting women from being fired for their reproductive health decisions

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:52:03pm

It’s all so surreal. Only one more full day left of the Obama presidency.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:52:58pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Typical right wing coward. Votes on this shit but don’t bother answering questions because gosh that’s too much.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:53:31pm

People keep focusing on the election and who won and whether or not Russia had a direct impact on it.

Doesn’t matter.

The issue is whether or not a candidate for the presidency worked with a foreign power to manipulate the electoral process. Whether or not money and contacts and influence were exchanged. And now that the candidate is president, the quid pro quo arrangements and blackmail potential that exist.

Those things compromise the independent interests of the United States against an adversarial country.

That’s the issue, not who won the damn election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:54:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:54:32pm

re: #151 BlueGrl21

People keep focusing on the election and who won and whether or not Russia had a direct impact on it.

Doesn’t matter.

The issue is whether or not a candidate for the presidency worked with a foreign power to manipulate the electoral process. Whether or not money and contacts and influence were exchanged. And now that the candidate is president, the quid pro quo arrangements and blackmail potential that exist.

Those things compromise the independent interests of the United States against an adversarial country.

That’s the issue, not who won the damn election.

Precisely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:55:15pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

It’s all so surreal. Only one more full day left of the Obama presidency.

The last day before the Dawn of the Great American Idiocracy.

I mark Sep 10, 2001 as the high point of the American Empire…we bounced back a bit in 2008, but now we start into the slide down.

Hope it can be arrested before the damage is permanent.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:55:33pm
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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:55:50pm

re: #151 BlueGrl21

As soon as Trump is sworn in as POTUS while an officer of the Trump Organization he will be in conflict with the Constitution.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:56:08pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

How could they forget Chachi?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:57:13pm

re: #155 Unshaken Defiance

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The hair looks more lifelike on the wax dummy.
The wax dummy also appears to be at least 80 pounds lighter.

At the very least 80 pounds…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:57:36pm

I for one can’t wait for the stupid Trumpers to get angry when they don’t get their pony. They deserve the misery they chose to inflict on themselves.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:57:49pm

re: #156 jaunte

As soon as Trump is sworn in as POTUS while an officer of the Trump Organization he will be in conflict with the Constitution.

And most of the people with the power to do something about it seem to be just fine with whistling and pretending they don’t notice.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:58:19pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I for one can’t wait for the stupid Trumpers to get angry when they don’t get their pony. They deserve the misery they chose to inflict on themselves.

So many “Told you so!” moments to inflict upon these tossers.

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TedStriker  Jan 18, 2017 • 1:58:40pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The job ages the fuck out of you. By 2020, Trump’s gonna look like something that was found floating in the Hudson River.

If he lasts that long…and, one way or another, I don’t think he will.

Either his body and his mind (or both) will go completely bust sooner, rather than later, then we get President Pence.

Oh, joy…

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:00:01pm

re: #162 TedStriker

If he lasts that long…and, one way or another, I don’t think he will.

Either his body and his mind (or both) will go completely bust sooner, rather than later, then we get President Pence.

Oh, joy…

My knowledge of US government structures is rusty after years of being away from undergrad, but is there a way to have a recall election performed in the middle of a Presidential term if Trump and Pence and the rest of the GOP for that matter do a colossal fuck up of unseen proportions?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:00:35pm

re: #163 electrotek

My knowledge of US government structures is rusty after years of being away from undergrad, but is there a way to have a recall election performed in the middle of a Presidential term if Trump and Pence and the rest of the GOP for that matter do a colossal fuck up of unseen proportions?

Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:00:50pm

re: #161 electrotek

So many “Told you so!” moments to inflict upon these tossers.

I know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:01:18pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope.

We are for a better lack of words stuck with these guys.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:01:27pm

re: #163 electrotek

My knowledge of US government structures is rusty after years of being away from undergrad, but is there a way to have a recall election performed in the middle of a Presidential term if Trump and Pence and the rest of the GOP for that matter do a colossal fuck up of unseen proportions?

Nope. Were stuck with them.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:01:38pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope.

Sounds about right.

We are totally fucked then.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:02:02pm

My hope is 2018 is a good year. Doesn’t look good but things can change.

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makeitstop  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:02:49pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I for one can’t wait for the stupid Trumpers to get angry when they don’t get their pony. They deserve the misery they chose to inflict on themselves.

I pick ‘em off one by one on Facebook. Jolly fun, it is.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:02:57pm

re: #167 Bubblehead II

Nope. Were stuck with them.

There is a reason why we did not try to replicate our constitution in Japan or Germany after WW2.

It really doesn’t work that well unless all parties adhere to ethical norms.

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stpaulbear  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:03:07pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

The hair looks more lifelike on the wax dummy.
The wax dummy also appears to be at least 80 pounds lighter.

At the very least 80 pounds…

People should start sending him images of his wax dummy on Twitter. It seems like something that could send him off on an entertaining Twitter rampage.

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nines09  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:04:07pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I for one can’t wait for the stupid Trumpers to get angry when they don’t get their pony. They deserve the misery they chose to inflict on themselves.

I can’t find happiness in them getting burned, because for them to get burned means others, who don’t deserve it, get burned. If only stupid would only hurt stupid. One wingnut I know is already posting about the GOP trying to gut the ACA. The same dolt who once told me he” Couldn’t do anything about Obama.” And voted for Trump. I can’t even go back at him. I’ve murder in my heart. Pure contempt.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:04:26pm

re: #163 electrotek

My knowledge of US government structures is rusty after years of being away from undergrad, but is there a way to have a recall election performed in the middle of a Presidential term if Trump and Pence and the rest of the GOP for that matter do a colossal fuck up of unseen proportions?

Nope. That’s the point of the chain of secession. We’re not supposed to go without a president for any significant length of time.

Edit: To add, we have to go through the impeachment process.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:04:28pm

re: #168 electrotek

Sounds about right.

We are totally fucked then.

I believe that in the 18th Century, they figured the whole thing couldn’t go to hell in only 2 years.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:05:02pm

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

There is a reason why we did not try to replicate our constitution in Japan or Germany after WW2.

It really doesn’t work that well unless all parties adhere to ethical norms.

Good luck having the GOP adhere to ethical norms.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:05:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:05:44pm

re: #174 Belafon

Nope. That’s the point of the chain of secession. We’re not supposed to go without a president for any significant length of time.

Freudian slip?

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allegro  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:06:33pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Allegro!!!!

*waves* I slept through the whole thing. Knew it was raining but had no idea of all the flooding til I took Buddy out for a walk about 10:30am. Went “whoa!” when we headed for our regular bayou-side walk and it was not a bayou but a lake. =O

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:06:41pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:06:45pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:07:46pm

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

There is a reason why we did not try to replicate our constitution in Japan or Germany after WW2.

It really doesn’t work that well unless all parties adhere to ethical norms.

That’s the “one weird trick” that the GOP discovered.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:07:59pm

re: #173 nines09

I can’t find happiness in them getting burned, because for them to get burned means others, who don’t deserve it, get burned. If only stupid would only hurt stupid. One wingnut I know is already posting about the GOP trying to gut the ACA. The same dolt who once told me he” Couldn’t do anything about Obama.” And voted for Trump. I can’t even go back at him. I’ve murder in my heart. Pure contempt.

It’s more happiness in Trump proving to them exactly what we said he was.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:08:12pm

re: #182 Jebediah, RBG

That’s the “one weird trick” that the GOP discovered.

Took them a few decades after WW2 to figure the trick out, eh?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:08:40pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

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Waaah.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:08:57pm

re: #173 nines09

I can’t find happiness in them getting burned, because for them to get burned means others, who don’t deserve it, get burned. If only stupid would only hurt stupid. One wingnut I know is already posting about the GOP trying to gut the ACA. The same dolt who once told me he” Couldn’t do anything about Obama.” And voted for Trump. I can’t even go back at him. I’ve murder in my heart. Pure contempt.

You reap what you sow, right? That’s how I feel about them.

I will keep laughing at their misfortune.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:09:50pm
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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:10:59pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:11:20pm
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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:12:44pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:13:11pm

re: #184 electrotek

Took them a few decades after WW2 to figure the trick out, eh?

They’re evil, but not always super bright.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:13:50pm

re: #98 makeitstop

So…Voter votes for lying sack of shit, is appalled when she finds out lying sack of shit was lying, and now has regrets.

All I can muster is a hearty ‘Fuck you, Sherri Underwood.’

Left a comment just now on this pathetic FB page. You may want to get over there while you can, because odds are it ain’t going to be there for too long.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:14:47pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Woodrow Wilson’s team got rid of Inaugural dances because they didn’t like the “grizzly-bear gyrations and bunny-hop hugging” of the earlier Inaugural Balls.*

*According to Cokie Roberts this morning in NPR’s new “Ask Cokie” segment.

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stpaulbear  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:16:26pm

re: #193 Barefoot Grin

Woodrow Wilson’s team got rid of Inaugural dances because they didn’t like the “grizzly-bear gyrations and bunny-hop hugging” of the earlier Inaugural Balls.*

*According to Cokie Roberts this morning in NPR’s new “Ask Cokie” segment.

Cokie Roberts on NPR is the reason snooze alarms were invented.

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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:16:48pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:19:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:20:01pm

re: #194 stpaulbear

Cokie Roberts on NPR is the reason snooze alarms were invented.

I was driving. I think they changed the format so that she wouldn’t drone on in that weary insider’s voice. Not sure why they feel compelled to keep her on once a week, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:20:48pm

re: #33 ericblair

I guess my problem with it is that Lil Donnie doesn’t do gratitude, and blows up at threats. If someone tries to threaten him now, he’s got Secret Service protection. If they try to collect on a debt, good fucking luck. If they try to blackmail him, I don’t think anybody knows quite what he’ll do, but him quietly doing the reasonable thing seems a bad bet.

My guess is that he’s had a bunch of shady deals with the Russians, but he likes Putin because he’s a shirtless bear-riding guy that don’t take no shit and has huge classy houses with gold crap all over them, and he’s been whispering sweet nothings in the yam’s ear. Nothing deeper.

However, I don’t think this is going to go well, and I’m worried that it can get seriously bad. Both of these upstanding leaders are thin-skinned narcissistic bullies, which is not a good start to the relationship. Trump’s already tried to DO A DEAL: the US will drop sanctions in exchange for reductions in Russian nukes. Kremlin says go fuck yerself, they want sanctions lifted for free. No deal.

Russia has little that the West actually wants, and won’t give up anything the West would want anyways. Guess they expect their little poodle to jump when they say jump, and even Captain Stupid is going to figure that out pretty fast.

Trump would not be embarrassed by any sex tape, but one thing HE DOES NOT ALLOW is anyone saying he has less money than he claims he does. For Putin to reveal that Trump owes him hundreds of millions BIGLY and that Putin has owned him for years is something I think Trump would do anything rather than have revealed. Also too: it’s not as easy for Trump to blow off Putin and the Russian mob the way he blows off other people he owes money to.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:21:32pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:21:37pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Did that not happen to Nixon when LBJ passed away???

And I don’t mean Nixon was outraged, but it did put a somber tone to his inauguration.

Maybe I have that wrong. Anyone?

I remember Truman and LBJ both passing away in December of 1972 leaving Nixon as the only living President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:22:01pm
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Bear  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:23:15pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

OH that feels SO good.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:23:53pm

re: #196 Myron Falwell

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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:24:46pm

re: #192 Mattand

Left a comment just now on this pathetic FB page. You may want to get over there while you can, because odds are it ain’t going to be there for too long.

Yeah, the buyer’s remorse is starting to kick in serioulsy now.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:29:25pm

re: #204 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the buyer’s remorse is starting to kick in serioulsy now.

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Seriously, fuck these people. I’m dead serious; I may have to live around and work with these people, but I will never forgive them. Never. The walking definition of fact-resistant American voters.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:31:52pm
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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:33:30pm

Adam Khan following the Trump-Russian mob connections back into the early ‘90’s.

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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:34:26pm

Spider sex on my twitter feed. Time to go fix a bike.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:35:35pm

re: #202 Bear

You have internet out there in the woods?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:38:04pm

re: #205 Mattand

Seriously, fuck these people. I’m dead serious; I may have to live around and work with these people, but I will never forgive them. Never. The walking definition of fact-resistant American voters.

“Oh, man. I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked-up repugnant shit.”

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:41:48pm

re: #204 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the buyer’s remorse is starting to kick in serioulsy now.

Argh, stupid WSJ paywall.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:42:08pm

re: #192 Mattand

Left a comment just now on this pathetic FB page. You may want to get over there while you can, because odds are it ain’t going to be there for too long.

So did I.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:45:57pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Spider sex on my twitter feed. Time to go fix a bike.

Your Twitter feed is definitely more interesting than mine.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:46:37pm

Hmmmm.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:48:35pm

re: #205 Mattand

Seriously, fuck these people. I’m dead serious; I may have to live around and work with these people, but I will never forgive them. Never. The walking definition of fact-resistant American voters.

Voting is a morally significant act. You can’t vote for evil, or even fail to vote against evil, and somehow magically remain pure.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:48:48pm
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makeitstop  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:49:40pm

re: #204 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the buyer’s remorse is starting to kick in serioulsy now.

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I put them on blast. They wanted it, they got it. I’m not making nice with that shit. No. Way.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:50:32pm
6 a.m. - Trump will receive his last intelligence briefing as president-elect, during which national security experts will present him with a document detailing the greatest threats he will face once in office. The document will contain one word: “You.”

8:00 a.m. - As did his predecessors, Trump will attend a private prayer service at St. John’s Episcopal Church, at which time God will appear and plead with the President-Elect to refuse the presidency. In response, Trump will phone Julian Assange and tell him to release everything he has on God.

SATIREWIRE’S GUIDE TO THE PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATION

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:50:35pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Hmmmm.

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He must be sitting on a stool!

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wrenchwench  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:51:18pm

re: #213 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Your Twitter feed is definitely more interesting than mine.

@am_anatiala is the only one you need to follow. She’ll retweet the rest.

Bike is calling.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:51:22pm

re: #217 makeitstop

I put them on blast. They wanted it, they got it. I’m not making nice with that shit. No. Way.

Like that idiot columnist that voted for Trump “to get the economy started” and is now realizing that she may have to live with anti-choice zealots ruling her life.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:51:59pm

re: #205 Mattand

Seriously, fuck these people. I’m dead serious; I may have to live around and work with these people, but I will never forgive them. Never. The walking definition of fact-resistant American voters.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:52:38pm

re: #215 EPR-radar

Voting is a morally significant act. You can’t vote for evil, or even fail to vote against evil, and somehow magically remain pure.

I am so posting this on that FB page. Brilliant.

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stpaulbear  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:53:16pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Hmmmm.

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He just can’t stop himself from lying. He has to lie about everything.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:53:58pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Portrait of vain man with blank legal pad and matching expression.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:55:38pm

re: #211 electrotek

Argh, stupid WSJ paywall.

Yeah, I didn’t notice because it’s not paywalled on my iPad. Here’s one of the ones that annoyed the hell out of me:

It’s like, “Really, lady? Really? He’s 70 freaking years old, what makes you think he’s suddenly going to change now?? He’s always been an amoral, thin-skinned, narcissistic prick—ask anyone in NYC. He’s NOT going to change. He CAN’T.

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makeitstop  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:56:22pm

re: #222 electrotek

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:57:06pm

re: #222 electrotek

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re: #222 electrotek

Gotcha covered. Thanks!

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nines09  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:57:15pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I didn’t notice because it’s not paywalled on my iPad. Here’s one of the ones that annoyed the hell out of me:

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It’s like, “Really, lady? Really? He’s 70 freaking years old, what makes you think he’s suddenly going to change now. He’s always been an amoral, thin-skinned, narcissistic prick—ask anyone in NYC. He’s NOT going to change. He CAN’T.

And they mocked Obama for “Hope and Change”. Perfect.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:58:11pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

He’s 70 freaking years old, what makes you think he’s suddenly going to change now. He’s always been an amoral, thin-skinned, narcissistic prick—ask anyone in NYC.

I know, right? Where have these people been for the the last 40 years?

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:58:29pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I didn’t notice because it’s not paywalled on my iPad. Here’s one of the ones that annoyed the hell out of me:

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It’s like, “Really, lady? Really? He’s 70 freaking years old, what makes you think he’s suddenly going to change now. He’s always been an amoral, thin-skinned, narcissistic prick—ask anyone in NYC. He’s NOT going to change. He CAN’T.

LOL that reminds me of the absurd reasoning that my Albanian Muslim friend made when she justified voting for Trump…even though she tweeted how much she hated him so much for months!

Which reminds me, I’m going to ask her how she’s feeling about the American Milosevic coming to power in a couple of days. BTW, her and her family came to this country as refugees in the late 90s, so I was beyond disgusted that she would succumb to voting for a misogynistic and Islamophobic fuckwit like him.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 2:58:46pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

Anyone that likes some of Trump’s cabinet picks is a raving wingnut.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:00:25pm

re: #231 electrotek

LOL that reminds me of the absurd reasoning that my Albanian Muslim friend made when she justified voting for Trump…even though she tweeted how much she hated him so much for months!

Which reminds me, I’m going to ask her how she’s feeling about the American Milosevic coming to power in a couple of days. BTW, her and her family came to this country as refugees in the late 90s, so I was beyond disgusted that she would succumb to voting for a misogynistic and Islamophobic fuckwit like him.

That kind of stuff is so disappointing. Your friend is like a chicken that votes for Col. Sanders.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:00:51pm

re: #228 Mattand

Gotcha covered. Thanks!

LOL check this. The admin replied to me with this drivel:

People are defrauded all the time and Trump is among the best in the business. I don’t blame the people who admit they’ve been fooled, it’s those who refuse to admit it who I have an issue with.

We need to be united against a common problem now and we need to be positive. NO MORE NEGATIVITY!!!!

Ridiculing people who come out and admit their mistakes won’t be tolerated on this page. Those who continue will be blocked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:01:16pm

Not sent via Android, so somebody on his staff thought maybe it should be mentioned…even though it’s HOURS LATE

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Bubblehead II  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:01:18pm

New Keith Olbermann.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:02:05pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:02:19pm

re: #232 EPR-radar

Anyone that likes some of Trump’s cabinet picks is a raving wingnut.

Yeah, it was so bizarre to me to see how many people they spoke to thought his cabinet picks were okay (or even good). I just… ಠ_ಠ

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:03:09pm
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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:03:56pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

That kind of stuff is so disappointing. Your friend is like a chicken that votes for Col. Sanders.

She’s a fucking idiot. I still can’t wrap my head around someone who not only identifies as a Muslim, but also tweets and RT’s stuff that involve exposing Islamophobia, but engages in self-defeat by voting for him.

That is still my biggest test on my friendship with her. And I can’t grasp why she would hate Hillary Clinton considering that if it wasn’t for the Clintons they would have been killed off by Serb forces in 1998-1999.

It was a bitter pill for me to swallow.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:04:19pm

re: #238 CuriousLurker

Yeah, it was so bizarre to me to see how many people they spoke to thoguth his cabniet picks were okay (or even good). I just… ಠ_ಠ

Raving wingnuts like to pretend to be moderate or undecided in public. It helps them normalize their extremist positions.

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:05:39pm

re: #240 electrotek

She’s a fucking idiot. I still can’t wrap my head around someone who not only identifies as a Muslim, but also tweets and RT’s stuff that involve exposing Islamophobia, but engages in self-defeat by voting for him.

That is still my biggest test on my friendship with her. And I can’t grasp why she would hate Hillary Clinton considering that if it wasn’t for the Clintons they would have been killed off by Serb forces in 1998-1999.

It was a bitter pill for me to swallow.

Does she believe the RWNJ lies about Clinton?

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:06:53pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

Does she believe the RWNJ lies about Clinton?

She does now lol

It’s really hard to break off my friendship with her, but Goddamn I can’t wrap my head around such an illogical decision like this. I even made it known to her, because I’m not going to sugarcoat this, at ALL.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:10:04pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

Does she believe the RWNJ lies about Clinton?

And she also supports the BLM movement. Amusingly enough, she will claim she’s not white even though last I checked, Albanians ARE white. /facepalm

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:11:28pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:12:33pm

re: #234 electrotek

LOL check this. The admin replied to me with this drivel:

People who voted for Trump need to be ridiculed and verbally beaten around the head and shoulders with a stout stick.

The reason for this is that Trump is not an exceptionally able swindler. In fact his lies and evasions are pathetically obvious to anyone who is not desperate to believe in lies.

Trump voters are the idiots who fell for Trump’s pathetic lies, and unless they get a fucking clue they will just vote like idiots again for the next demagogue to come along.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:12:45pm

re: #226 CuriousLurker

I guess this is why Republicans keep getting elected even though they always fuck everything up.

“I hope ……..”

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BeachDem  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:13:27pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

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Who the fuck would go to the trouble to get a shirt like that made? Never mind—I know exactly who would.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:13:56pm

re: #247 Skip Intro

I guess this is why Republicans keep getting elected even though they always fuck everything up.

“I hope ……..”

If Pat Buchanan hasn’t become less racist as he got older, what makes anyone think Trump will change?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:14:00pm

re: #239 jaunte

“as we can see from his surname…”

Yeah, this part needs more attention, ‘cause that sounds bugfuck crazy.

I mean, it’s still pretty fucking crazy even if you’re panicky about “globalism” (cough, cough), ‘cause it’s an Irish name, so it’s like extra special crazy for, you know, people who aren’t fuckwits.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:14:36pm

re: #243 electrotek

Since you’re already in such a good mood, did you see this? It’s horrific, even more so than “usual” (I hate to use that word, but unfortunately it’s all too common).

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:14:40pm

re: #247 Skip Intro

I guess this is why Republicans keep getting elected even though they always fuck everything up.

“I hope ……..”

This lady is a Republican Never Trumper that fell into line at the end, like 90+% of them did.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:14:44pm

re: #250 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

“Rootless cosmopolitans.”

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:14:47pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

Do these people really think that “honkey” and “cracker” are racial slurs comparable to the n-word and other epithets against black people from the 1800s? Come the fuck on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:15:01pm

spoiler

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Please, go read the entire piece.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:15:01pm

“…The disaster [in 2008] was not an accident. It was an engineered failure off of which some people are still getting rich. The economy crashed, but the burning continues.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:15:17pm

Well that is done for another year. I had jury duty today. Philly has a one day/one trial system. This is the first time I was told to say nothing about what went on in the court room or anywhere else. Sheesh. At least we got paid and I will not have to do this until next year.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:17:14pm

re: #247 Skip Intro

I guess this is why Republicans keep getting elected even though they always fuck everything up.

“I hope ……..”

Yeah, I guess so. *SIGH*

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:17:55pm

re: #251 CuriousLurker

Since you’re already in such a good mood, did you see this? It’s horrific, even more so than “usual” (I hate to use that word, but unfortunately it’s all too common).

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:20:39pm

re: #253 jaunte

“Rootless cosmopolitans.”

Somehow I suspect Dugin won’t apply this surname shit to, say, Russians in Georgia and Ukraine.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:21:57pm

re: #259 electrotek

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re: #251 CuriousLurker

Since you’re already in such a good mood, did you see this? It’s horrific, even more so than “usual” (I hate to use that word, but unfortunately it’s all too common).

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Timothy Watson  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:22:00pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:24:18pm

re: #262 electrotek

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I wish I knew the answer to that. *smh*

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:24:33pm

re: #245 lawhawk

GRRRR….

Some asshats decided to take their offroad vehicle and damage both Racetrack Playa and Badwater Basin in Death Valley National Park.

The American Taliban at work. Destroy everything, because FUCK YEAH! AMERICA!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:25:28pm

re: #263 Timothy Watson

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OFFS 😒🙄

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:25:55pm

re: #263 Timothy Watson
Oddly enough:

Cline went after the Virginia Lottery in 2009 for the allotment of over $1 million of state funds to use the likeness of Howie Mandel and Donald Trump on lottery tickets.[14]
en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:28:48pm

re: #263 Timothy Watson

I doubt Cline has the inclination to lower a flag for fully adult people who die because they can’t get health insurance.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:29:23pm

re: #268 jaunte

I doubt Cline has the inclination to lower a flag for fully adult people who die because they can’t get health insurance.

God wanted those people dead.

/

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Anymouse  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:29:59pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

Not to be morbid, but imagine if George HW Bush passed away on inauguration day itself. Trump would be outraged at being “upstaged”…

I certainly wish no harm to befall President Bush.

I just got back from town. Signing all the bank paperwork for my new position on the village board was more complicated than my Navy enlistment contract.

“Sign here … and here … and this form says you won’t use government funds for on-line gambling… .”

(I’m guessing they have that because someone did it before … I got a raised eyebrow from the bank president when I asked about off-track betting though.)

Got home from the bank, and Yay! Homeowner’s insurance cheque was in the mailbox. (I should have checked on that before I went to the bank.) That was quick.

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lawhawk  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:30:24pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

What he said mirrors my own thoughts. From the fact that Manning was not pardoned; she had her sentence commuted on to the point that the length of the sentence was out of sync with other similar cases or even those of actual traitors, and that ultimately it was up to the President to reduce the length based on all the factors involved. Jim wouldn’t have reduced the length. I probably wouldn’t have either.

But I can’t fault the President for doing it.

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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:32:11pm

re: #254 electrotek

Do these people really think that “honkey” and “cracker” are racial slurs comparable to the n-word and other epithets against black people from the 1800s? Come the fuck on.

Before the Braves relocated to Atlanta, the local Triple-A team was the Atlanta Crackers.

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electrotek  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:32:27pm

re: #264 CuriousLurker

I wish I knew the answer to that. *smh*

Because reputation, of course.

Same reason why no one hears of Kurdish victims of honor killings by right-wing idiots:

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:33:57pm

Trump administration gets an early jump on the work of hurting Americans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:38:44pm

re: #271 lawhawk

What he said mirrors my own thoughts. From the fact that Manning was not pardoned; she had her sentence commuted on to the point that the length of the sentence was out of sync with other similar cases or even those of actual traitors, and that ultimately it was up to the President to reduce the length based on all the factors involved. Jim wouldn’t have reduced the length. I probably wouldn’t have either.

But I can’t fault the President for doing it.

First approved comment there is me.
I am amazed.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:42:01pm

re: #246 EPR-radar

People who voted for Trump need to be ridiculed and verbally beaten around the head and shoulders with a stout stick.

The reason for this is that Trump is not an exceptionally able swindler. In fact his lies and evasions are pathetically obvious to anyone who is not desperate to believe in lies.

Trump voters are the idiots who fell for Trump’s pathetic lies, and unless they get a fucking clue they will just vote like idiots again for the next demagogue to come along.

Yeah the voters are bad. But what still amazes me about Trump are all the stories about him bilking his suppliers on his building projects. A good example…the people fighting over 4 some million bucks on the new hotel at the former DC Post Office building.

These are professional business people that have direct dealings with Trump. Voters have a distant relationship and we already know how fleeting their minds are. But businesses enter into actual contracts with Trump…and yet, they too fall for the bullshit and end up getting ripped off and shorted on payments.

And they should know because he has been doing that for years. It is well known. But does that stop them from dealing with Trump. No.

How the hell does that happen? Answer that and you know why so many voters fell for him.

It is pure ignorance based on either being lazy and not looking into his dealings…or a complete arrogance knowing he rips people off and yet they enter into deals with him thinking it isn’t going to happen to them.

And the voters showed that same blind ignorance and arrogance thinking he was going to do something for them, he wouldn’t screw over me, no one would do that as the president. He is going to make America Great…he said so.

I just don’t fucking get it. All I know is it does not make me impressed with a whole hell of a lot of people. And it tells me America has a problem with critical thinking…all the way from the lowly wingnut hater to business people to the halls of the U.S. Congress.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:43:10pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I for one can’t wait for the stupid Trumpers to get angry when they don’t get their pony. They deserve the misery they chose to inflict on themselves.

Until they fall for the propaganda from Breitbart, SMOTI, Alex Jones, Rush, Lumpy, Fix and the RWNJ claptrap cartel that it’s all the fault of anyone who isn’t an angry, straight, male WASP… and those need to be “dealt with.”

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BeachDem  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:44:14pm

re: #263 Timothy Watson

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What a melodramatic bunch of worthless crap. And could that guy look any more smug?

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:45:04pm

re: #254 electrotek

Do these people really think that “honkey” and “cracker” are racial slurs comparable to the n-word and other epithets against black people from the 1800s? Come the fuck on.

People just as thin skinned as Trump, just as bigoted and just as willing to trample on others for a buck do.

And it is very evident we have a ton of them in this country. Too many.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:46:46pm

re: #245 lawhawk

GRRRR….

Some asshats decided to take their offroad vehicle and damage both Racetrack Playa and Badwater Basin in Death Valley National Park.

I’m really fortunate that I got out there before the recent rash of vehicle damage at the Racetrack. The words that I have are not fit to be typed here.

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BeachDem  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:49:59pm

re: #267 jaunte

Oddly enough:

Reading his wiki, he seems to be on the right side of a lot of issues, but he still looks like a smug asshole.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:50:31pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

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Man, does that ever sound constitutional!

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 18, 2017 • 3:51:32pm

re: #2 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Did the Kremlin affect the casting of the ballots or the counting of the ballots?

да

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fern01  Jan 18, 2017 • 4:14:35pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Next time he will call it what he really really wanted to “The Winter Palace”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2017 • 12:17:13am

re: #248 BeachDem

Who the fuck would go to the trouble to get a shirt like that made? Never mind—I know exactly who would.

Someone who loves setting up straw men to knock over to the applause of his fellow bubble-dwellers.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 19, 2017 • 9:47:59am

re: #142 jaunte

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Buffalo Bayou straining its banks this morning.

Hope the Spaghetti Warehouse is ok. I loved that place when I lived in Houston and worked downtown. 2nd shift we would get a big takeout order from them for dinner sometimes. Good food.


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