Is Twitter Force-Following Donald Trump’s @POTUS Account?

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Earlier today, when the @POTUS and @FLOTUS Twitter accounts were switched over to the Trump-Thing and his third wife, I made a point of unfollowing both of those accounts.

But then, a little later today, I checked them and lo and behold — I was suddenly following both accounts again!

OK. I know distributed network databases can be tricky and get out of sync, so I was willing to give Twitter the benefit of the doubt and assume they were restoring the follower lists after switching account ownership, and it took some time to propagate across their entire network.

But tonight I’ve been hearing from more than a few people that they were never following the @POTUS and @FLOTUS accounts, but suddenly find themselves added to their followers without consent.

Hence, the question in the title of this article.

I hope Twitter will clarify what’s going on here, because it’s happening to a lot of people and they’re not happy about it.

UPDATE at 1/20/17 7:59:59 pm by Charles Johnson

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626 comments

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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:25:39pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:25:41pm

I had blocked @potus earlier, but sure enough, they forced a follow on me. Hit “unfollow” and it went back to “block.”

Not the case with @flotus, though. Still blocked.

Nice going, @jack.

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scottslemmons  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:26:41pm

Interesting, if true. I found that I was following the POTUS account, but I can’t remember if I’d been following it before, or if I’d planned to follow it for the sake of repeatedly asking Trump why he lets Russian hookers pee on him.

I’ll check again later and see what’s up…

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:28:02pm

I wake up to a gif of Spencer being punched in the face. Have to appreciate the little things in life these days.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:30:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:31:08pm

re: #5 De Kolta Chair

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You know, I’m no Churchill fan at all but I know Winston would have a brilliant one liner specifically for Trump.

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:31:21pm

I never followed @POTUS or @FLOTUS in the first place. I’ve been checking intermittently with the current accounts and I’m not following either.

I’ll get suspicious if I’m following them tomorrow.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:31:33pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:32:14pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:32:34pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

I never followed @POTUS or @FLOTUS in the first place. I’ve been checking intermittently with the current accounts and I’m not following either.

I’ll get suspicious if I’m following them tomorrow.

It’s definitely something to watch over the next few days, that’s for sure.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:32:37pm

Posting again because I can.

Instagram

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:33:47pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Neither of his home cities care for him.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:34:18pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Did you unfollow @POTUS yet, Charles? Because my iOS app is showing that you still are.

EDIT: Now it shows you aren’t. 🙂

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:35:56pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:36:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:37:16pm

re: #13 Myron Falwell

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:02pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

Big Brother.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:14pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

You think they have some thing in place that if you tag POTUS or FLOTUS, it makes it so you auto follow them?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:20pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

I guess Twitter _really_ wants you to listen to what Drumpf has to say.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:47pm

Just like Chavez. We have our own “Alo Presidente” show now..

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:49pm

@jack, let me be so bold as to say you suck.

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kirkspencer  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:38:59pm

I’ve never followed anyone, never posted a tweet. From that baseline, I have not been switched to follow POTUS or FLOTUS.

Though I’ll check tomorrow, just in case.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:39:35pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

Yikes.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:39:55pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Oh for Pete’s sake. I auto-followed him again. WTF.

I blocked him & Melania & Pence.

That should do it.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:40:18pm

I reported the potus twitter account earlier today for “being abusive to groups.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:40:56pm

I don’t have a Twitter account, so I should be safe.

Right?

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:41:25pm

I recommend the lowercase potus designation.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:41:44pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I blocked him & Melania & Pence.

That should do it.

I blocked @POTUS, and they STILL showed me following him.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:42:29pm

I think that it is really revealing to see what the #1 trending item on Twitter is right now in the United States (note that the first one listed isn’t actually trending but is simply “promoted”), and is more than double the number as the second-place trending item.

You own this one, Donald. All by yourself.
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:46:41pm

Edit: I want that on a shirt.

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Unabogie  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:48:07pm

Holy crap, I just checked, and yes, I was suddenly following Drumpf.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:49:20pm

I’m waiting for him to be on all the TV channels all the time.

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electrotek  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:50:42pm

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:52:00pm

re: #34 electrotek

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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Was a time when I agreed with that. You try talking. You get called libtard. I don’t want us to turn into Breitbart or the alt-right but it’s really not that simple.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:53:01pm

re: #34 electrotek

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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Standing up to them will be very important, and like all bullies, they’ll crawl back under rocks if they’re challenged by enough people.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:53:36pm

Yet another reason to give a big index finger to Twitter and never use their “service”.

We’ve discussed this before, Charles and I appreciate that we disagree.

But Twitter is no longer worth it, if it ever was. They’ve decided they can make more money by being quislings to the incoming regime.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:53:41pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

More of a Concord Blue Devil.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:54:00pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Was a time when I agreed with that. You try talking. You get called libtard. I don’t want us to turn into Breitbart or the alt-right but it’s really not that simple.

I don’t think the goal is to convert them. What we have to do is stand up to them.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:54:16pm

re: #34 electrotek

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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I’m at that point now. You have to stand up to a bully to stand your ground.

It worked for Ralphie in “A Christmas Story.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:54:40pm

And I guess this is why I can’t empathize. Just saw that a guy I grew up with who’s now career military “liked” that one of the protesters was in pain after being shot with a non-lethal round. This is what I’m trying to tell to my youngest brother about how wingnuttery is. My middle brother he gets it. I think because we’re both older and my middle brother especially has see the effects of police brutality first hand.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:55:12pm

re: #37 William Lewis

Yet another reason to give a big index finger to Twitter and never use their “service”.

We’ve discussed this before, Charles and I appreciate that we disagree.

But Twitter is no longer worth it, if it ever was. They’ve decided they can make more money by being quislings to the incoming regime.

I think it’s very worthwhile, for those who have the fortitude to engage in daily combat with trolls and nutjobs. It’s just not for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:55:34pm

re: #39 Belafon

I don’t think the goal is to convert them. What we have to do is stand up to them.

Right, some people I know we won’t change. Creatures of habit and that jazz, Standing up to them though. I want liberals to be proud of what we are and what we’ve accomplished.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:57:02pm

re: #34 electrotek

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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No, sometimes it takes more. If we fail to stand up to them now things will be worse tomorrow.

But then, as I’ve told my priest, I consider myself a marginal Christian because as an old soldier, I do not believe in pacifism.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:57:25pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Right, some people I know we won’t change. Creatures of habit and that jazz, Standing up to them though. I want liberals to be proud of what we are and what we’ve accomplished.

I do too. But standing up to others is often out of most people’s comfort zone, and that’s one thing the Nazi’s and KKK count on.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:57:26pm

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:58:29pm
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b.d.  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:58:52pm

Why would Twitter force follow accounts? Wouldn’t they be doing it on paid accounts?

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calochortus  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:59:18pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

Posting again because I can.

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Updinging again because I can.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:59:18pm

Just checked my twitter, I’m not following the fuckhead fascist - but I wasn’t following the POTUS account before.
But I discovered some of you lovely people are following me - awesome and thanks!
(I am not much of a twitterer, I guess, or I would have noticed before!)

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whitebeach  Jan 20, 2017 • 6:59:21pm

I was out in the car for a long time today and tried to avoid the worst of the inauguration by tuning in NPR rather than, say, praise music or Sean Hannity or bad country, which are pretty much the choices on your dial around here.

I hear the Donald introducing Bill and Hillary at some kind of inaugural lunch, praising them as fine people, and calling for a standing ovation for them.

Five minutes later they’re interviewing some dipshit who came up from Florida for the big toot because she wants to celebrate Trump, who she says is a man who “says what he means and means what he says.”

WTF world are these people living in?

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:00:44pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

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Sailor Moon did it better.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:01:22pm

re: #52 Scottish Dragon

Sailor Moon did it better.

She’s got nicer legs…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:01:36pm

re: #50 Jebediah, RBG

Just checked my twitter, I’m not following the fuckhead fascist - but I wasn’t following the POTUS account before.
But I discovered some of you lovely people are following me - awesome and thanks!
(I am not much of a twitterer, I guess, or I would have noticed before!)

I just saw you following me back, thanx! :)

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:02:34pm

A geophysicist I follow on twitter is not in a good way right now.

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:04:09pm

Based on my Twitter-fiend ass, I’m pretty sure that if you ever followed and/or unfollowed @POTUS and @FLOTUS you got followed no matter what after the official switch from Obama to Fuckface.

Might be a weird weid WEIRD bug in their code.

I know nothing about computers, BTW.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:06:37pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

Based on my Twitter-fiend ass, I’m pretty sure that if you ever followed and/or unfollowed @POTUS and @FLOTUS you got followed no matter what after the official switch from Obama to Fuckface.

Might be a weird weid WEIRD bug in their code.

I know nothing about computers, BTW.

They probably didn’t have a protocol for shifting an existing account to a new one but keeping the old name as essentially a new account.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:07:40pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:07:56pm

Weird things going on with Chrome over here when I push the comments button….all of the formatting is gone….

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:08:23pm

The daughter of a guy I used to be in a band with has a folk duo called The Yellow Bellied Sap Suckers. I just read on Facebook that John Wood is going to be recording/producing them. John Wood is the engineer/producer of Fairport Convention’s landmark albums and solo albums by Sandy Denny, Richard Thompson, and Nick Drake’s albums. This is so cool for her.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:09:45pm

re: #60 stpaulbear

The daughter of a guy I used to be in a band with has a folk duo called The Yellow Bellied Sap Suckers. I just read on Facebook that John Wood is going to be recording/producing them. John Wood is the engineer/producer of Fairport Convention’s landmark albums and solo albums by Sandy Denny, Richard Thompson, and Nick Drake’s albums. This is so cool for her.

That’s cool. Good luck to her. If they have any music, would you mind private messaging me it? I love hearing up and coming artists.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:09:49pm

They didn’t even wait 24 hours.

Decent Christians must be mortified when they see this sort of crap. I honestly don’t see how they imagine they’re any different/better than assholes like Anjem Choudary—it’s the same nasty, intolerant shit, just a different religion.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:10:10pm

re: #55 Scottish Dragon

A geophysicist I follow on twitter is not in a good way right now.

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I can sympathize. I had too much to do today to do real mourning. But tomorrow once I get home from work? I will lift a glass or four of scotch and beer to the memory of the end of the Great Experiment. Because even if we succeed in the resistance, it will be a different nation, a Second Republic ala France, than the USA was or the Puppet States of America are now.

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:10:21pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

And I guess this is why I can’t empathize. Just saw that a guy I grew up with who’s now career military “liked” that one of the protesters was in pain after being shot with a non-lethal round. This is what I’m trying to tell to my youngest brother about how wingnuttery is. My middle brother he gets it. I think because we’re both older and my middle brother especially has see the effects of police brutality first hand.

US conservatism is inherently vicious. That’s only natural since its basis is splitting society apart into warring factions so that sociopathic plutocrats can continue to rule without even being seen to be the rulers.

People either get this or they don’t.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:11:06pm

re: #59 Eric The Fruit Bat

…But Edge works…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:11:25pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

US conservatism is inherently vicious. That’s only natural since its basis is splitting society apart into warring factions so that sociopathic plutocrats can continue to rule without even being seen to be the rulers.

People either get this or they don’t.

Right. it’s frustrating. You’d think this guy as a military member while he may disagree with what’s being protested would understand that free speech is free speech.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:11:35pm

re: #65 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now its fixed…..

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:11:53pm

re: #57 Belafon

They probably didn’t have a protocol for shifting an existing account to a new one but keeping the old name as essentially a new account.

Like I said upthread, I never once followed those accounts. I’m selective with what I follow on Twitter, I consider that a strength of the service. I see what I want to see, and they’ve been consistent with that aspect.

I think I’ll be fine with this snafu, I never followed @POTUS or @FLOTUS to begin with. I got enough information on both those folks elsewhere.

I did, however, start following @MichelleObama last night. I haven’t followed her husband yet. If he says anything really important Michelle will retweet it.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:12:17pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

They didn’t even wait 24 hours.

Decent Christians must be mortified when they see this sort of crap. I honestly don’t see how they’re any different//better than the likes of Anjem Choudary—same nasty, intolerant shit, different religion.

Yes, we are mortified. But because we’re a silent minority, nobody understands that we’re not all like that.

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electrotek  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:12:26pm

Japanese Trump fans in Fukuoka, Jesus Christ.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:13:48pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

I’ll have to confess that I’m a Facebook friend with my ex-bandmate, but I haven’t followed his daughter’s band. I never realized it was this big a deal. I thought it was a hobby. I was very wrong.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:13:53pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

OMG that was horrible.

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:14:24pm

re: #70 electrotek

Idiots can be found in every country. Perhaps these fools will learn a valuable life lesson if Trump’s bungling leads to a shooting war between China and Japan over their territorial disputes.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:14:38pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

I’m waiting for him to be on all the TV channels all the time.

Moriarty!

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:14:50pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

They didn’t even wait 24 hours.

Decent Christians must be mortified when they see this sort of crap. I honestly don’t see how they imagine they’re any different/better than assholes like Anjem Choudary—it’s the same nasty, intolerant shit, just a different religion.

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This is going to end badly.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:15:56pm

I gotta guess switching POTUS accounts is a huge job to do seamlessly.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:16:13pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

Someone needs to come up to him with a wire cutter.

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:18:09pm

re: #77 stpaulbear

Someone needs to come up to him with a wire cutter.

Hecklers giving these bigoted fucknuggets mocking advice on how better to dress like Nazi brown shirts would be an improvement.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:18:29pm

re: #60 stpaulbear

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - good at percussion!
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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:20:25pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

Hate-drunks.

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Moebym  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:23:05pm

I just checked, and it happened to me on the @POTUS, @FLOTUS, and @VP accounts.

When I checked a few hours earlier, I was not following any of them, so I was definitely force-added.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:23:24pm

re: #80 jaunte

Hate-drunks.

Whenever I see assholes like that I try to picture Jesus (a.s.) standing there with them, enraged, screaming spittle-flecked insults at innocent people, but I can never quite draw a believable picture in my head.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:24:23pm
Trump asks an inaugural ball crowd if he should “keep the Twitter going?” Because “the enemies keep saying” it’s terrible
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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:24:48pm

re: #81 Moebym

I just checked, and it happened to me on the @POTUS, @FLOTUS, and @VP accounts.

When I checked a few hours earlier, I was not following any of them, so I was definitely force-added.

My question is did you ever follow those accounts in the past and then unfollowed them?

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:24:48pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Given the tendency for projection, I’d have the police interview his wife.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:25:27pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

That’s cool. Good luck to her. If they have any music, would you mind private messaging me it? I love hearing up and coming artists.

They have a YouTube page.

The Yellow-Bellied Sapsuckers, “The Flower Girl,” Live, January 2016

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:25:51pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

Wow. Why didn’t somebody call the police?! This guy should be in jail for disturbing the peace at the very least. Awful.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:26:25pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Wow. Why didn’t somebody call the police?! This guy should be in jail for disturbing the peace at the very least. Awful.

Agree! My fingers would have found 911 quickly!

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electrotek  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:26:51pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Idiots can be found in every country. Perhaps these fools will learn a valuable life lesson if Trump’s bungling leads to a shooting war between China and Japan over their territorial disputes.

Here’s what the CNN piece had to say:

About 550 miles to the southwest, a few hours before the inauguration, a few dozen Japanese conservatives enjoyed a celebration of the new American president at a restaurant in the city of Fukuoka.

Since the swearing-in would be happening too late for their gathering, diners watched Election Night footage on a big screen.

“Trump is such an honest, outspoken person who has the same way of political thinking as us,” event organizer Yoko Mada said.

“What conservatives in Japan have been wanting is to bring this nation out of the so-called post-war regime, and one symbolic thing would be us owning our own military again, which Trump supports.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:27:13pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:27:32pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Whenever I see asshole like that I try to picture Jesus (a.s.) standing there with them, enraged, screaming spittle-flecked insults at innocent people, but I can never quite draw a believable picture in my head.

Jesus would totally lose his shit over something like this. I mean, really. What part of “love other people, don’t be a dick” doesn’t make sense?

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Joe Bacon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:28:00pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

The sad truth is that the majority of Christians are in agreement with the Bullhorn Bully.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:28:22pm

re: #22 kirkspencer

I’ve never followed anyone, never posted a tweet. From that baseline, I have not been switched to follow POTUS or FLOTUS.

Though I’ll check tomorrow, just in case.

^^^^

This is my experience as well. Looks like whatever got FUBARed is related to the previous list of followers.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:28:25pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon

The sad truth is that the majority of Christians are in agreement with the Bullhorn Bully.

Oh, Lord, I hope not!

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thedopefishlives  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:29:21pm

re: #94 retired cynic

Oh, Lord, I hope not!

He’s not wrong. American Christianity is fundamentally broken in deeply disturbing ways.

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:29:35pm

The rude pundit hits the right tone for inauguration day:rudepundit.blogspot.com

I didn’t watch the Inauguration of a sentient yam, Donald Trump, as president of the United States (vomits in mouth a little). I don’t need to watch bonobos jacking off to know that it’s strange and loud with fluids being hurled at the end. But I did read Trump’s address, and it was a warmed-over stump speech, filled with the kinds of baffling, weird, and apocalyptic rhetoric that propelled him to become head chalk eraser clapper at the special school.

For instance, what the fuck does this mean: “You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before”? Trump’s said that repeatedly, and it’s not just a lie (Civil rights movement? The French Revolution? The Russian Revolution? The goddamn Protestant Reformation?), it’s utterly meaningless. Every election is a historic movement. It’s just part and parcel of Trump’s nonsensical marketing of himself: every fucking thing his dick gets hard about is the greatest thing ever.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:29:49pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:30:34pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon

The sad truth is that the majority of Christians are in agreement with the Bullhorn Bully.

I doubt the majority are, otherwise there’d prolly be blood running in the streets. I have lots of Christian neighbors and none of the are like that. YMMV

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CuriousLurker  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:30:58pm

Anyhoo, I guess I’m gonna go read or something. I don’t want to think about this stuff any more today. Later, lizards.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:31:20pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Whenever I see assholes like that I try to picture Jesus (a.s.) standing there with them, enraged, screaming spittle-flecked insults at innocent people, but I can never quite draw a believable picture in my head.

That’s just it, he wouldn’t. He’d have been taught the law and prophets and would know deep in his heart to love your neighbor as yourself, to care for the stranger because we are all strangers living briefly in god’s world, and, as Micah taught:

“He has told you, O mortal, what is good;
and what does the Lord require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?”

And this is why he taught us in Matthew 25 to care for the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, to cloth the naked, to care for the sick and visit those in prison. Those are the important things, not these idiots grubbing for secular power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:32:21pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

Good GOD what an asshole!

Anyway of figuring out what his name is?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:32:41pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

Judging by Twitter’s mega fail tonight, the question will answer itself before he has a chance.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:32:46pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

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I’ve no words.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:34:07pm

re: #100 William Lewis

Christians, as I was raised to believe, or Christianists, that are like, shudder, that!

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BlueGrl21  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:35:03pm

re: #95 thedopefishlives

He’s not wrong. American Christianity is fundamentally broken in deeply disturbing ways.

This Liberal, Feisty, Pissed Off and getting ready to match tomorrow Episcopalian is a wee bit sensitive to the “all Christians.”

Plenty of Christians are a pain in the ass and I guarantee those same Christians are just as much a pain in the ass to me.

And had I been anywhere near this idiot my poor husband would have been looking the other way and pulling our children close as I walked over there to talk Jesus with him.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:35:32pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:35:55pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

The Piano Guys will have a decent string of lounge gigs and small-town county fairs; otherwise, their musical career is O—V—E—R.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:36:12pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

Good GOD what an asshole!

Anyway of figuring out what his name is?

Their signage makes them look like they’re part of the Westboro Baptist Church.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:36:45pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

Good GOD what an asshole!

Anyway of figuring out what his name is?

Ah, here we go, form @amyharvard_’s timeline:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:37:12pm

Yup. POTUS had me following. And I changed that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:37:50pm
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:38:29pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

OMFG!

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:38:57pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

I’ve no words.

Trump is an Elliot Rodger type whose money and fame have allowed him to satisfy his disgusting urges without actually killing anyone (that we know of).

This was readily apparent to the most casual observer shortly after the GOP primary got underway. GOPers overwhelmingly fell in line behind Trump once he got the nomination, so they approve of this shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:40:01pm

re: #112 retired cynic

OMFG!

I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:40:22pm

re: #94 retired cynic

Oh, Lord, I hope not!

Based on the callers I deal with on the job, the majority of them absolutely hate and despise Muslims and they have that note of giddiness when they spit out their venom.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:40:42pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:41:05pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

That’s actually better than political level appointees tasked to destroy the agency they run.

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Franklin  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:42:39pm

Unrelated but seems so related:

Watching the new show “Designated Survivor” and it’s pretty damn good. Anyone else watch it yet?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:43:14pm

re: #109 CuriousLurker

Thanks for that CL. I want to get these assholes on the watch list.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:44:05pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon

VX+6jRKJqwTJwqMYJ3BJKV86n4CVZiPlK0GHSEBSUdqJ7FkhuBXx89ld4xwCSnmx

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:45:08pm

re: #95 thedopefishlives

He’s not wrong. American Christianity is fundamentally broken in deeply disturbing ways.

That’s because in many ways large segments of the populace are Americans before they are Christian. They conflate the two in their heads but the source of their faith is America, not Christ.

I’d give you my usual spiel about the American faith’s holy items (guns, flags) and how it’s as bloodthirsty as the Aztec religion, but you’ve heard it all before.

A lot of Christians, like my wife, do separate their faith and their patriotism. She and they understand they are not the same thing.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:46:25pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:47:26pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:47:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:48:14pm
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Franklin  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:49:04pm
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:50:04pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

That man is SO not right!

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Moebym  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:50:27pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

I had been following them at least until I checked a few hours ago and found, to my surprise, that I was no longer following them. Then, when I checked a few minutes ago, I was following them all over again. It’s bizarre.

I hope it’s just a glitch.

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BadExampleMan  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:51:04pm

Huh. I unfollowed @POTUS, @FLOTUS, @VP, and @pressec (I have a crush on Josh Earnest. So sue me) yesterday before noon.

Just checked, and I was following them all again. The fuck.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:54:21pm

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:55:34pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:57:30pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

Don’t give them passwords for anything. Not even the printers. They should be considered saboteurs.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:58:02pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

I think he needs another Tic Tac.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:59:16pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

He’s yelling at people.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:59:30pm

Half-watching MSNBC. Someone just mentioned that the ‘clock is running out” on promises to fix veterans’ issues, as the Republicans are in control of all branches.
Good luck, veterans.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 7:59:59pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

That’s why they look so unhappy in #124. They knew they were going to have to dance together later in the evening.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:00:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:02:02pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:02:28pm

re: #128 Moebym

I had been following them at least until I checked a few hours ago and found, to my surprise, that I was no longer following them. Then, when I checked a few minutes ago, I was following them all over again. It’s bizarre.

I hope it’s just a glitch.

That supports my theory that if you even followed them in the first place and unfollowed today or even ever that you got followed today. If you never even followed (like me) then you’re not affected.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:04:40pm

The grotesque narcissist is talking about himself again, using the veterans and “his” generals as props.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:04:53pm

He sounds drunk.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:05:27pm

Here’s a story for Anymouse and his librarian wife if he comes back tonight.

In Longville, Minn., retired librarian prepares for solo women’s march

Michelle Barton wishes she could be part of a big women’s march on Saturday, but she lives in the tiny town of Longville, Minn.

“I thought OK, I’ll just see what happens if I create my own march,” she said. “It was kind of a lark.”

Barton went to the Women’s March website and signed up to host her own. She got out some tagboard and markers.

“My hope was that some people might join me,” she said. “I have a very active imagination, so my worst case scenario was people driving by and taking pot shots at me.”

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:06:28pm

Because if they can jack up C-SPAN, they can jack up anything.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:06:59pm

re: #127 retired cynic

That man is SO not right!

He is immature and pouty.

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:07:29pm

re: #141 jaunte

I think he is approaching stroke territory.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:07:40pm

“Incredible” looms large in his wordclouds.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:08:14pm

Tiniest Presidential vocabulary in history.

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:08:50pm

re: #146 jaunte

Do you think he knows what a word cloud is?

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:09:03pm

re: #148 prairiefire

No.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:09:36pm
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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:09:47pm

Trump to troops: “I’m with you a thousand a thousand a thousand percent.”

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:11:21pm

Now he’s bragging about the primaries again.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:11:59pm

re: #152 jaunte

Now he’s bragging about the primaries again.

Thanks for watching & reporting.

I’m sick as hell & I’ve just read today.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:12:02pm

re: #152 jaunte

I guess he is one the many Americans who never matured beyond middle school.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:12:06pm

re: #152 jaunte

Now he’s bragging about the primaries again.

Reliving fond memories of the past.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:12:11pm

“You are very very special people.”

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:12:51pm

Very very
Special
Great
Incredible
NICE

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:12:59pm

re: #142 stpaulbear

I just updated the link with better info. Please refresh.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:14:14pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

Thanks for watching & reporting.

I’m sick as hell & I’ve just read today.

I took a break and fortified myself with some California produce.

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:15:39pm

‘They’re good people, I don’t want to hurt them”. So said the emporor. False flags and all.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:16:20pm

Now, dancing. The spawn join in.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:16:23pm

re: #159 jaunte

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:17:14pm

re: #161 jaunte

Nope, and nope.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:17:20pm

re: #160 prairiefire

Did you see about fight song? I’m steamed. Going to definitely mention it tomorrow at the walk. Hopefully we’ll start singing.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:17:33pm

re: #159 jaunte

I picked up Pita from the vet. They believe she is profoundly hyperthyroid, needs meds that I am supposed to put in her ear to be absorbed through her skin, and she has lost so much weight so fast she is weak. Beats me how she did it in 24 hours, unless the weakness suddenly was enough to make her fall and bang her head, but she is home and asleep on her own chair. Thankful for small blessings. It kept me from listening to DT mess up the day.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:17:37pm

re: #145 prairiefire

I think he is approaching stroke territory.

I think he has a brain cloud.

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Dom  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:17:51pm

Apparently the migration was arranged between Twitter and Trump stooge Dan Scavino. An abuse of power in the first place, let alone the apparent glitch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:20:20pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

The Trump version would go:

“This is my white song,
My hateful spite song…”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:21:01pm

One comment, Trump hangs his hands so awkwardly. Otherwise, I’ll not say a thing.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:21:54pm

Seeing these smiling young people in the military on stage, excited to be at the event, destined to be screwed by the people they are putting their faith in makes me tremendously sad.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:22:09pm

re: #167 Dom

Apparently the migration was arranged between Twitter and Trump stooge Dan Scavino. An abuse of power in the first place, let alone the apparent glitch.

Director of Social Media. Blecccch

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:23:56pm

My hope for the next few years is that Trump ends up realizing just how deeply he is despised by so many people, and also realizes that the fake RWNJ bullshit vs. Obama is completely insignificant in comparison.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:23:56pm

And angry that they are once again so obviously being used as props.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:24:25pm

Chrissy has been a blessing to follow today.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:24:30pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

And now the Nazi is issuing threats. “Antifa” means “antifascist,” so at least he knows what he is.

I think he is using it for anti-first amendment

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:24:50pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

His coloring is very unhealthy.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:25:03pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

One comment, Trump hangs his hands so awkwardly. Otherwise, I’ll not say a thing.

[Embedded content]

That little itty bitty baby … fist!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:26:41pm

Non-spy mode is completely fucked up for me. Looks like RedState, it’s so bad.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:27:55pm

re: #174 Stanley Sea

Is that Roger Stone who stepped into the walkway behind Trump?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:31:12pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

Judgemental scowl.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:32:19pm

re: #174 Stanley Sea

Chrissy has been a blessing to follow today.

[Embedded content]

Obama was the last person standing, and he hadn’t gotten around to applauding before the gif ended.

Gawd that gif is funny.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:32:57pm

I really hope the people causing chaos and destruction in DC today don’t fuck this up tomorrow

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:34:53pm

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

I really hope the people causing chaos and destruction in DC today don’t fuck this up tomorrow

[Embedded content]

If anyone fucks up, it will most likely be men doing the fucking up.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:36:21pm

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

I really hope the people causing chaos and destruction in DC today don’t fuck this up tomorrow

[Embedded content]

They won’t.

It’s a Women’s march.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:37:06pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

They won’t.

It’s a Women’s march.

IOW, we’ve got this.

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whitebeach  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:42:03pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

IOW, we’ve got this.

Unfortunately, I recall several people on this site saying the exact same thing early on the night of Nov. 8.

Don’t ever underestimate the image power of a few ratfucking provocateurs. We’re dealing with Goebbels here, with stronger media.

187
teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:42:16pm
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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:44:23pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart

“Trump’s rhetoric manages to exaggerate our problems and yet also exaggerate how easy it would be to solve them.”

The reason is obvious. When you make the problems sound insurmountable, then proclaim that you and you alone have the unique knowledge, skills, and talent to solve them, you’re essentially trying to goosestep your way toward proclaiming godhood. Trump is a half-step away from proclaiming himself and himself alone “America’.

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EPR-radar  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:44:42pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

“War Journal Day 1: Tried to come up with new insults for Cheeto Benito without success.”

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:50:47pm

Charles. I got to work, fired up the phone and in the comments, the display is totally messed up. Everything looks normal till i go read the thread. This is in both Chrome and the Samsung browser on Android 6.0.1

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:53:18pm

re: #165 retired cynic

Really glad to hear some good news today. The weight loss may have been more gradual but easy to miss, hopefully. Fluffy kitties do that well.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:55:52pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:56:18pm

Yeah, About that fist waving….

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:58:21pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Not a dance.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 8:59:54pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:06:18pm

re: #129 BadExampleMan

Huh. I unfollowed @POTUS, @FLOTUS, @VP, and @pressec (I have a crush on Josh Earnest. So sue me) yesterday before noon.

Just checked, and I was following them all again. The fuck.

My account was set to follow @potus, @flotus, and @vp, but not @Pressec because I never followed that user. They screwed up, and reverted to old follow data.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:07:13pm

OT. Skip as desired.

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TedStriker  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:11:05pm

Got home from work, having read about the possible DT/Twitter shenanigans tonight, and checked my Twitter; the only account that I had been following was @POTUS and I forgot to unfollow it before today. However, it didn’t matter, because my follow had automatically changed over to the @ObamaWhiteHouse account archived by NARA, not Trump’s @POTUS.

Just fine by me.

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Moebym  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:12:16pm

re: #198 Stanley Sea

I lived in Knoxville for ten years, and it’s as you’d expect from a city in the Bible Belt. It’s nice to see there are some sane pockets in deep red east TN, though.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:16:01pm

re: #199 TedStriker

Got home from work, having read about the possible DT/Twitter shenanigans tonight, and checked my Twitter; the only account that I had been following was @POTUS and I forgot to unfollow it before today. However, it didn’t matter, because my follow had automatically changed over to the @ObamaWhiteHouse account archived by NARA, not Trump’s @POTUS.

Just fine by me.

I appear to be following both, @ObamaWhiteHouse and @POTUS

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:16:10pm

re: #199 TedStriker

Yay!

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:17:45pm

re: #199 TedStriker

Got home from work, having read about the possible DT/Twitter shenanigans tonight, and checked my Twitter; the only account that I had been following was @POTUS and I forgot to unfollow it before today. However, it didn’t matter, because my follow had automatically changed over to the @ObamaWhiteHouse account archived by NARA, not Trump’s @POTUS.

Just fine by me.

It might be incompetence rather than shenanigans. They successfully moved everyone’s follows to the new accounts, then either someone screwed up, or an order came down to set us to follow the old accounts again.

It is possible that Trump got pissed when the @potus followers went away and demanded them back. I hope we hear about it if that was the case.

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:18:33pm

Charles, I’m trying this post using h t t p s protocol.

*crossing fingers*

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TedStriker  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:20:33pm

re: #200 Moebym

I lived in Knoxville for ten years, and it’s as you’d expect from a city in the Bible Belt. It’s nice to see there are some sane pockets in deep red east TN, though.

It’s also a college town, so there’s that for moderating the Republicans there (Governor Haslam was once Knoxville’s mayor).

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TedStriker  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:22:57pm

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

I appear to be following both, @ObamaWhiteHouse and @POTUS

re: #202 prairiefire

Yay!

re: #203 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

It might be incompetence rather than shenanigans. They successfully moved everyone’s follows to the new accounts, then either someone screwed up, or an order came down to set us to follow the old accounts again.

It is possible that Trump got pissed when the @potus followers went away and demanded them back. I hope we hear about it if that was the case.

O/67ztWlD7BEpkPOiy4ArHMf6ccBcBT8zAPp6ULI/jEe8w2n+2cABB64WHSQEX+NjmRn1fXV2JOD/EJ2j2tlCpNrPUz/zz8gd/5sxPREYKqRYXBvfd1kaM8B+HmimeqcCRGIsFxu07uy93cebvC0Cv5dXqEJuDKQAz1xB6dtNrHyARHHV97YS/pk/zCXjXWpKEhxKSQmqBpeNbPgCI9W0DdjX2aPiaPlM7hxos9Iilg=

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allegro  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:29:17pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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That looks like a woman who knows she will be covering bruises with make-up tomorrow morning.

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:30:21pm

re: #204 unproven innocence

My previous action seems to be not repeatable.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:30:26pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:33:00pm

re: #200 Moebym

I lived in Knoxville for ten years, and it’s as you’d expect from a city in the Bible Belt. It’s nice to see there are some sane pockets in deep red east TN, though.

One of my best friends, and part of a (literal) brotherhood of skiers, lives in Knoxville. He often laments the ways of Colorado.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:36:40pm

re: #38 Single-handed sailor

More of a Concord Blue Devil.

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Still think this is the closest

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:36:51pm

Night all. I’ll report tomorrow about my local Women’s March.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:38:12pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That sucks. Assholes. I wonder who gave them that directive?

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:38:23pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

One of my best friends, and part of a (literal) brotherhood of skiers, lives in Knoxville. He often laments the ways of Colorado.

This friend of mine took this picture two days ago.

Instagram

Damn! +12,000ft of vert

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Myron Falwell  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:38:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:40:40pm

re: #204 unproven innocence

Charles, I’m trying this post using h t t p s protocol.

*crossing fingers*

Er, what? I have no idea what you’re referring to.

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:41:45pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thanks Mr Lincoln for your thoughtful words about the Great Experiment.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:43:27pm

re: #190 William Lewis

Charles. I got to work, fired up the phone and in the comments, the display is totally messed up. Everything looks normal till i go read the thread. This is in both Chrome and the Samsung browser on Android 6.0.1

Not sure what you’re seeing, but from this end everything is perfectly normal. Can you post a screenshot so I can see what you’re talking about?

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rhuarc  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:48:20pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

I had the same thing happen just a few minutes ago when I logged on here. Not my phone, but with my laptop. It was like the site only loaded the text and nothing else with it. Like something you would see where a forum was cached by another website. So no formatting, no scripting, no images, etc. Just text.

A refresh fixed it.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:50:09pm

re: #219 rhuarc

Same here on my laptop, but a refresh cured it.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:51:10pm

Richard Spencer getting cold cocked to a Phil Collins soundtrack!

streamable.com

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rhuarc  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:51:34pm

Here you go Charles.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:55:09pm

re: #222 rhuarc

Same thing I saw.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:55:22pm

re: #219 rhuarc

Typically when I see that it means the CSS failed to load for some reason and a refresh cures it.

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rhuarc  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:55:25pm

Seems I can recreate it by going to the homepage, clicking on the title of the article, and then click on the post count at the upper right.

And a simple refresh won’t fix it. I have to go up to the location box and hit enter to refresh that way.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:57:09pm

Looked at Facebook, which was fine until I got to the segment where family started to show up. Hahahaha. That’s closed now.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:58:26pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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And so it starts.

The questions. Do you support the leader?

Law enforcement will be all over this. Cops love Trump, and the the loudest ones who post on cop boards are waiting for their chance to arrest us for assaulting their nightsticks with our faces.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:58:26pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

Thanks for watching & reporting.

I’m sick as hell & I’ve just read today.

Ditto. Didn’t watch a single minute of it. And when I scroll by the potus and flotus twitter images with the yam and melania, I flinch and chills run up my spine.

Probably should have had more wine…

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:59:52pm

re: #224 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Typically when I see that it means the CSS failed to load for some reason and a refresh cures it.

When I experienced it, it wasn’t fixed by reloading the page. The CSS was still missing.
Going back to the main page, then into the article fixed it for me.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 9:59:52pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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That glower on his face is nearly demonic.

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Interesting Times  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:00:43pm
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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:01:41pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

Did you see about fight song? I’m steamed. Going to definitely mention it tomorrow at the walk. Hopefully we’ll start singing.

I’ll put in under wraps as I know many hate it:

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

I LOVE it

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:02:13pm
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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:03:49pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

Er, what? I have no idea what you’re referring to.

At the time of that post, my address bar was showing
littlegreenfootballs.com

Not sure how it got that way. All page elements were in a much more primitive arrangement, much as for a first generation browser. Subsequently, however, when I try reproducing that state, the page would usually revert automatically to http (no s).

I’ve just tried manually tweeking the url to match the above, altho the site now continues to display normally. I’ve even previewed this comment. Twice. Display remains normal ,now. But if I refresh the page, the url reverts to h t t p :

However, when I posted my #204, the whole lgf page resembled what was shown in comment #222 rhuarc.

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Interesting Times  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:03:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:04:54pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:06:33pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:08:41pm
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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:09:52pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Is that Roger Stone who stepped into the walkway behind Trump?

I thought he was still recovering from polonium poisoning!!11ty

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:10:30pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:11:48pm
The Interior Department was ordered Friday to shut down its official Twitter accounts — indefinitely — after the National Park Service shared two unsympathetic tweets during President Trump’s inauguration.

washingtonpost.com

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:11:54pm

Make it so, number one

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:13:37pm

re: #241 Scottish Dragon

washingtonpost.com

Dear Leader was not pleased. Fortunately, such behavior is not an executable offense…yet.

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:14:18pm

re: #234 unproven innocence

Charles, right-clicking that link, and choosing “open in new tab” seems to reproduce the weird display, with h t t p s NOT reverting automatically to h t t p

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:17:34pm

FYI, I’m using seamonkey v 2.46, with ABP, NoScript, and several other security tweeks.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:19:21pm

I am having waaaay too much fun trolling Richard Spencer on twitter right now.

He is tweeting all kinds of self pitying crap.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:23:14pm

OMG look at this shit…(Bad craziness. Be warned)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:24:26pm

re: #240 MAGATARD PRIME

Holy fuck.

He sounds like a demented pro wrestling manager.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:26:38pm

Charles, i am unable to get a screenshot on this phone. It is as if there is no formatting of the page, i can not quote other messages, see images and each posting drops me all the wayvout to the root page.

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KingKenrod  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:27:00pm

re: #240 MAGATARD PRIME

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What a fraud. Or maybe just coked up.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:27:35pm

I want to see Richard Spencer so fucking scared that he surrounds himself with armed nazis.

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unproven innocence  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:28:21pm

re: #244 unproven innocence

Charles, right-clicking that link, and choosing “open in new tab” seems to reproduce the weird display, with h t t p s NOT reverting automatically to h t t p

Followup. Under Firefox v 50.1, the issue is NOT reproducible. Reverting to h t t p is automatic.

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MsJ  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:28:33pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s completely terrifying.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:32:49pm

Bice: Sheriff Clarke vies to be bully in chief

David A. Clarke Jr. may have all but abandoned his job as Milwaukee County sheriff.

But he is earning himself a new title: Bully in chief.

Just listen to Clarke’s remarks on bipartisanship at Thursday night’s DeploraBall, a gathering of President Donald Trump supporters at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. The celebratory ball had garnered media attention and protesters because some political extremists were expected to attend the event, which was jokingly named after Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables” statement.

“When Donald Trump actually takes that oath and is sworn in as the 45th president of the United States, the real fighting starts,” Clarke said in a video posted by the Daily Caller. “I’ll tell you what — you may know me, you may not — I’m one of those bare-knuckle fighters.

“When I hear people say that we need to reach across the aisle and work with people, with the Democrats, you know what I say? The only reason I’ll be reaching across the aisle is to grab one of them by the throat,” Clarke said to raucous cheers and fist-pumping. “And remind them that the American people, you, have spoken, and you said you wanted Donald Trump to be the next president of the United States.”

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:34:20pm

Our fellow conservatives look like they want blood.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:34:36pm
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MsJ  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:34:37pm

re: #254 MAGATARD PRIME

Bice: Sheriff Clarke vies to be bully in chief

“When I hear people say that we need to reach across the aisle and work with people, with the Democrats, you know what I say? The only reason I’ll be reaching across the aisle is to grab one of them by the throat,” Clarke said to raucous cheers and fist-pumping. “And remind them that the American people, you, have spoken, and you said you wanted Donald Trump to be the next president of the United States.”

No, WE voted for Clinton by 3 million votes. The electoral college voted trump in.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:35:22pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:41:07pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:42:39pm

re: #254 MAGATARD PRIME

Bice: Sheriff Clarke vies to be bully in chief

“The American people,” to the tune of 3 million votes, voted for Trump’s opponent. In most of the states that he flipped, he actually underperformed when compared to Willard in 2012. The only reason he won the EC is because Hillary lost more votes in those states than he did.

The gaslighting of America continues apace.

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:43:34pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Fake boobs but real misery.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:44:31pm

re: #260 Targetpractice

That doesn’t matter to these scumbags, he only wants to reach across the aisle to grab a liberals throat.

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:48:08pm

re: #236 FormerDirtDart

Compassion. Empathy! Respect! Fuck the Cheeto!

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:49:16pm

I have to vent here. Last night, I was with a wingnut buddy of mine (who is wrong about everything) and I asked him “Are American citizens who are Muslims, less American than you?” He answered “Yes.” This was almost 24 hours ago, and I’m still pissed off.

He even smirked when he said it, and I almost lost my shit. By the way, no other religion applied to his “test,” just Islam.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:49:47pm

re: #262 MAGATARD PRIME

That doesn’t matter to these scumbags, he only wants to reach across the aisle to grab a liberals throat.

Clarke’s a classic bully, when he can’t get you to back down through bellowing in your face or coercion, he sorts to threats of violence.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:50:13pm

Hopefully, the people of Milwaukee county are punished with heavy lawsuits from Sheriff Clarke’s deplorable behavior. People have died cruelly under his charge after all. They won’t vote him out, I hope they get slammed hard in the wallet.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:50:58pm

re: #264 Ace Rothstein

I have to vent here. Last night, I was with a wingnut buddy of mine (who is wrong about everything) and I asked him “Are American citizens who are Muslims, less American than you?” He answered “Yes.” This was almost 24 hours ago, and I’m still pissed off.

When you see him next time, ask him how’s the training in his local Sturmabteilung unit going. If they managed to get him a brown shirt that fits properly.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:51:41pm

This was in a very red part of Texas, where I wouldn’t be surprised if half of my friends held this view. This is Trump’s America, and it scares the fuck out of me.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:51:48pm
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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:53:11pm
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MsJ  Jan 20, 2017 • 10:58:05pm

re: #270 Kragar

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:12:14pm

Good night

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:16:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:21:05pm

“America First!” We’ll strip-mine the rest of the planet later…

//

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Moebym  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:32:46pm

I’m having display issues as well. It’s fine on the homepage, but when I click the link to view the comments, I’m led to a bare-bones page with few images and very little formatting.

EDIT: Suddenly, it’s working fine. That was odd.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:34:27pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:38:02pm

re: #276 Kragar

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Irony got drug out behind the chemical shed and put down like Ol’ Yeller months ago. Now we’re just watching wingnuts take turns pissing on the corpse.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:50:51pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

Air horn would drown out that asshole real quick.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:53:22pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2017 • 11:56:42pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

I never followed @POTUS or @FLOTUS in the first place. I’ve been checking intermittently with the current accounts and I’m not following either.

I’ll get suspicious if I’m following them tomorrow.

We will be suspicious if you un-follow.
- Artist formerly known as the KGB

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2017 • 12:04:25am

re: #279 Kragar

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Few things as cathartic as punching a Nazi. Name a form of media (movies, TV, novels, games) and you’ll find rich veins of genres dedicated to beating the hell out of Nazis.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 12:12:17am
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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2017 • 12:40:28am

Sure, Nazis no longer exist. What exist now are the ideological descendants of men who looked upon the Nazis and said “Those guys got the right idea.” Men who saw the rise of the Third Reich and decided that America’s best way forward was to march in solidarity with them.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 12:44:46am
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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:03:34am

Trump’s out there, telling folks that 96 million Americans don’t have jobs and the “real” UE rate is in the double digits, but suddenly all his supporters got jobs and can’t afford to take time off to travel to D.C. to attend his inauguration.

Well I guess he’s working miracles already.//////

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:18:45am

re: #283 Targetpractice

Sure, Nazis no longer exist. What exist now are the ideological descendants of men who looked upon the Nazis and said “Those guys got the right idea.” Men who saw the rise of the Third Reich and decided that America’s best way forward was to march in solidarity with them.

A Nazi, by any other name, would smell as shit.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:19:38am
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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:22:55am

To paraphrase Dave Chapelle, you’re not a Nazi…but you are wearing a Nazi’s uniform.

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:26:04am

re: #287 Kragar

The love of another human being?
The petit mort of music?
The taste of a really good biscuit?
What a weirdo.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:28:12am

re: #285 Targetpractice

Trump’s out there, telling folks that 96 million Americans don’t have jobs and the “real” UE rate is in the double digits, but suddenly all his supporters got jobs and can’t afford to take time off to travel to D.C. to attend his inauguration.

Well I guess he’s working miracles already.//////

I guess none of those hard-working Americans get any leave from their jobs either.

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:29:15am
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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:37:41am

“People should be able to speak their minds and call things as they really are without worrying about other people’s feelings.”

“Alright, you’re a bunch of goose-steppin’ Nazi shitheels.”

“HEY, THAT’S HURTFUL LANGUAGE! YOU SHOULDN’T SAY THAT STUFF IN DECENT COMPANY!”

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:40:38am

re: #292 Targetpractice

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Lupin  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:53:06am

re: #63 William Lewis

I can sympathize. I had too much to do today to do real mourning. But tomorrow once I get home from work? I will lift a glass or four of scotch and beer to the memory of the end of the Great Experiment. Because even if we succeed in the resistance, it will be a different nation, a Second Republic ala France, than the USA was or the Puppet States of America are now.

More like the French Third Republic, in fact.

Read William Shirer’s COLLAPSE OF THE THIRD REPUBLIC. Frightening parallels, with the results we all know.

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Lupin  Jan 21, 2017 • 1:54:20am

Great analysis on THE GUARDIAN:

Link

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 2:12:17am

This is fuckin’ class right here.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 2:18:16am

re: #295 Lupin

Great analysis on THE GUARDIAN:

Link

And another article, from The Independent.

Trump posed as the champion of “the forgotten men and women of America” on the campaign stump and did not take much money from Wall Street, certainly relative to previous Republican candidates. He paraded himself as the worst nightmare of the corrupt big money lobby.

But it was a con. Since vanquishing Hillary Clinton in November’s election Trump has, in fact, been the financial lobby’s wet dream. He has packed his administration and senior advisory team with former Wall Street financiers, many of them from Goldman Sachs.

And they have not disguised their agenda. Trump’s Wall Street picks have talked about deregulating derivative trading, allowing investment banks to make big bets with their own money again, allowing investments in hedge funds, reducing capital and liquidity requirements and dismantling the ability of regulators to supervise the sprawling shadow banking system. It is as if 2008 never happened.

independent.co.uk

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Moebym  Jan 21, 2017 • 2:27:54am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

“Since vanquishing Hillary Clinton in November’s election”

“…with a little help from my friends” (With apologies to the Beatles)

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:19:26am

re: #62 CuriousLurker

They didn’t even wait 24 hours.

Decent Christians must be mortified when they see this sort of crap. I honestly don’t see how they imagine they’re any different/better than assholes like Anjem Choudary—it’s the same nasty, intolerant shit, just a different religion.

Decent Christians get a pass in our nation: Generally the actions of a few do not mean the entire faith is maligned. (I guess that goes with being a majority.)

They also get the “He is not representative of our religion” pass that others don’t. See the Charleston church shooter, the Oklahoma City bomber, the Atlanta Olympics bomber, the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooter, veteran church pickets by a certain Wichita church, &c &c. They are all no true Scotsmen.

And aren’t conservatives (and I guarantee you these guys are conservatives) always whinging liberals don’t have jobs when they are protesting? Don’t these fine representatives of Christianity and the master race have something better to do?

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Right. it’s frustrating. You’d think this guy as a military member while he may disagree with what’s being protested would understand that free speech is free speech.

I never had an issue with free speech in or out of the Navy. I don’t get that sort of attitude. Maybe that was because I paid attention in Government class in high school. (Government was what my school called Civics.)

re: #37 William Lewis

Yet another reason to give a big index finger to Twitter and never use their “service”.

We’ve discussed this before, Charles and I appreciate that we disagree.

But Twitter is no longer worth it, if it ever was. They’ve decided they can make more money by being quislings to the incoming regime.

I’ve made the same argument, as well as others, against having a Twitter account. I guess it boils down to whether you think the constant harassment, Pepe memes, abuse, rape threats, stalking, and such are worth it. Twitter is just technology, someone will always figure out a way to use technology for hatred (and claim you are the hater).

re: #142 stpaulbear

Here’s a story for Anymouse and his librarian wife if he comes back tonight.

In Longville, Minn., retired librarian prepares for solo women’s march

Librarians rule.

re: #264 Ace Rothstein

I have to vent here. Last night, I was with a wingnut buddy of mine (who is wrong about everything) and I asked him “Are American citizens who are Muslims, less American than you?” He answered “Yes.” This was almost 24 hours ago, and I’m still pissed off.

He even smirked when he said it, and I almost lost my shit. By the way, no other religion applied to his “test,” just Islam.

Atheists get a pass? What about us atheists who will stand up against harassment and discrimination of Muslims? I’ll bet if you dig a little deeper with this guy, only the “right” Christians get a pass. Mennonites? Catholics? Presbyterians?

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On border patrol: Pesky I Amendment applies to everyone. Even Canadians.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:21:51am

Refresh that above to fix all the formatting I fouled up.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:23:45am
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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:36:29am
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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:46:25am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:49:01am
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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:51:56am

Before I start stepping on marches around the globe, I’ll post my own.

It was an excellent day. I went with my sister down to the State Library in Melbourne and the steps up front were rapidly filling. There was alot of joyous energy. So many nasty women tees, a bunch of knitted pink caps and a smattering of Yankee expats with signs bearing their dismay at their homeland’s new president.

The place was soon packed with all sorts of folk. There were no-fooling Marxists milling about, canvassing for potential supporters, but you’ll always have that at such events.
I even picked up a leaflet from the Socialist Alternative; a group into which I was myself recruited in an antiwar march in 2005. That was a bit grating. And one of the speakers trucked in the kind of rhetoric I’ve come to despise.
Magical balance fairy-ism, with which most here are familiar.
One speaker was incredibly forceful and preached political inclusion and participation while not making a travesty of class consciousness. Still trying to figure out who she was.
The march got underway and it was a lovely experience. Chants and songs wafted down the column in mostly women’s voices. They sang ‘I will survive’ and cars honked their horns at us. Whether in solidarity or not, it was thrilling.

Then we assembled before the state Parliament.

And a chant of ‘Yes we can!’ Surged through us. I will admit to unabashedly joining in :)

I’ll add that the flags are at half-mast because a man with a history of domestic violence plowed his car into pedestrians a few blocks away, killing four.

If anything, it made the march even more important.

Over a couple of pints, my sister and I discussed anything and everything; energised by the demonstration.
We know America isn’t perfect. That many here sometimes regard it as a joke of obscene proportions.
But we know, as you do, that there is so much about your country that is not only worth preserving; but which continues to provide a template of liberally-minded action to the rest of the world.

Never give up hope.

PS. This is for Stanley :D

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:52:21am

Went to the new White House Webpage again. Still mostly empty (which might be expected for a new Administration).

There is still no “proclamations” link. (I use that to track flag half-staff notices for my town.) We’ll have to see if they put such a link up. (My state uses its “Press Releases” link for state proclamations, so the White House may go that way with it - though wading through all of Mr. Trump’s press releases from Deadbart and SMOTI would require heavy drinking first.)

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:55:49am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:55:54am

re: #305 Alyosha

Wow, it looks like you had quite a turnout in Melbourne. Even the sea gulls participated. /s

With the march planned here in DC today, I hope it is as peaceable.

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:57:16am

By the way, if you’re marching today, I hope the experience does for your optimism what it did for mine.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:58:27am
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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:59:33am

re: #308 Anymouse

Wow, it looks like you had quite a turnout in Melbourne. Even the sea gulls participated. /s

With the march planned here in DC today, I hope it is as peaceable.

I’m seeing reports of about 6000.
Sydney managed even more than that.

Washington will be amazing, I’m certain.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 3:59:45am

re: #309 Alyosha

By the way, if you’re marching today, I hope the experience does for your optimism what it did for mine.

No, I’m not marching, nor is my librarian wife. We live too far from any planned marches, and marching in a town of 124 doesn’t seem a very useful way to get attention. We’re working more on simply talking with our neighbours, since we know them all.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:07:54am

YouTube moved the “White House” video channel to “Obama White House.”

They also wiped out all the sorting categories, so they are now all listed in simple chronological order. Makes it tough to find out if anything went down the memory hole.

The new channel says it will be maintained by the National Archives.

youtube.com

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:09:36am

re: #313 Anymouse

How long will Trump continue to fund the National Archives?

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:10:18am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:13:31am

re: #314 Kragar

How long will Trump continue to fund the National Archives?

That’s a good question. They already want to end the sequester agreement (as it relates to the Department of Defense). Gotta find the money somewhere (PBS, arts and sciences, why not a couple million from the National Archives).

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:16:50am

re: #316 Anymouse

We’re gonna need a bigger and faster off-site archiving to beat the memory-holeing.

This might be a good job for distributed computing.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:20:04am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:20:24am

re: #317 I cannot.

We’re gonna need a bigger and faster off-site archiving to beat the memory-holeing.

This might be a good job for distributed computing.

Perhaps we can get the folks at Berkeley’s BOINC on it. I would stop running SETI and Climate Change stuff in a Nebraska minute (those are shorter than New York minutes because we drive faster out here) to work on that.

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William Lewis  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:20:52am

re: #301 Kragar

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My response to that idiot:

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:21:45am

re: #320 William Lewis

Will he whigne he is being threatened and run to his safe space? Perhaps a bunker?

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:24:16am

re: #321 Anymouse

A bunker? There are NO safe spaces.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:27:19am

Propaganda proceeds apace:

According to the new White House Website, the murder rate in the District of Columbia has jumped 50%.

The Trump Administration is committed to reducing violent crime. In 2015, homicides increased by 17% in America’s fifty largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years. In our nation’s capital, killings have risen by 50 percent. There were thousands of shootings in Chicago last year alone.

whitehouse.gov

They even got that wrong … the actual figure might have been more in tune with their idea of Dumpster-fire crime rates, which is 100% according to the DC Police Crime Data page.

mpdc.dc.gov

In 2015, there were three murders, in 2016 there were six (which is why percentages suck for tracking crime rates - in our little town of Angora - population one - they had a 100% murder rate last year).

That said, for all crime across the District, the violent crime rate was down 30%.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:32:57am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:35:35am

re: #324 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Call them snowflakes.

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:36:37am

re: #324 Kragar

Aww, they feel hurt?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:37:57am

Having some troubles with the LGF website. When I try to list the comments, they load and then I’m taken back to the main page, but only if I allow non-secure content. With only secure content, the formatting is all weird.

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:37:57am

re: #320 William Lewis

On a bit of a tear tonight, hehe.

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William Lewis  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:39:34am

re: #327 wheat-dogg

Having some troubles with the LGF website. When I try to list the comments, they load and then I’m taken back to the main page, but only if I allow non-secure content. With only secure content, the formatting is all weird.

was doing that to me on my phone last night too.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:43:50am

re: #329 William Lewis

was doing that to me on my phone last night too.

My phone and Opera and Edge on Win10 today. Spy seems OK, though.

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jeffreyw  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:45:15am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:45:47am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:46:31am

salon.com

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who was one of Donald Trump’s staunchest supporters during his presidential campaign, now wants to abolish the Congressional Budget Office because it keeps using facts to undercut the president-elect’s economic claims.

“The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is simply incompatible with the Trump era,” Gingrich wrote on his personal blog on Friday. He then focused his complaint on CBO’s then-anticipated report on the impact of repealing the Affordable Care Act.

“It is a left-wing, corrupt, bureaucratic defender of big government and liberalism,” Gingrich wrote. “Its scoring of Obamacare was not just wrong, it was clearly corrupt. CBO literally brought in the architect of Obamacare to be the adviser on scoring the very Obamacare legislation that he helped write. The score was a lie. It was so wrong it was totally indefensible. A year later the CBO produced a new score that was so much more expensive that it was clear Obamacare would have been defeated if it had been the original score.”

More at Salon. Free Republic apparently was all over it, but their link from a search engine yielded a blank page. I went to their main page, also blank.

Is FR down?

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:47:23am

Oh, BTW, that dude? He’s writing the new Captain America comics…you know, the ones where Captain America is, and ALWAYS has been an agent of Hydra, yes, where Captain America is a literal motherfucking NAZI.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:47:57am

re: #329 William Lewis

was doing that to me on my phone last night too.

It did that when I first logged in here, but refreshing the page fixed it. (Firefox, Windows 10.) I tried loading the page with Windows Explorer and Windows Edge and had no problem.

I presume whatever borked the page is fixed. I tried a couple other pages and had no problem.

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:53:40am

re: #333 Anymouse

Apparently the hamsters powering either the FR database or the servers or something died. We anticipate the dipshit that owns FR to come back blegging for MOAR MUNEEZ to resurrect them.

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:54:29am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:55:55am

re: #336 I cannot.

Apparently the hamsters powering either the FR database or the servers or something died. We anticipate the dipshit that owns FR to come back blegging for MOAR MUNEEZ to resurrect them.

Well, now that Mr. Trump owns the Treasury Department… .

Perhaps with a cash infusion FR could update their Website from out of the Nineties.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:58:12am

I took down my flag late in the evening from Inauguration Day. It was frozen solid and flat.

I hope that is not a metaphor for the next four years.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 4:59:28am

re: #336 I cannot.

Apparently the hamsters powering either the FR database or the servers or something died. We anticipate the dipshit that owns FR to come back blegging for MOAR MUNEEZ to resurrect them.

Yep, another Grift-A-Thon seems to be on the horizon for Freeperville. Guess Jim Rob’s tab at Olive Garden was bigger than expected.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:01:46am

re: #338 Anymouse

Well, now that Mr. Trump owns the Treasury Department… .

Perhaps with a cash infusion FR could update their Website from out of the Nineties.

Maybe they can go with a Time Cube sorta thing, or hey, even better, a Universe People theme; you know, something really colorful.

WARNING: put on your sunglasses before looking at this. universe-people.com

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b.d.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:02:38am

re: #336 I cannot.

Apparently the hamsters powering either the FR database or the servers or something died. We anticipate the dipshit that owns FR to come back blegging for MOAR MUNEEZ to resurrect them.

LOL, the moment that all of those wingnuts have been waiting for ever since Jim Rob started that website in 1978…ruined.

So perfect that on FR climax day that the place fell apart.

Make America Great Again? How about Make Free Republic Work Again?

soooo funny, Jim needs moar monies, obviously….

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:04:29am

There is a short plug on the First Lady page near the bottom for Melania Trump’s jewellery collection.

whitehouse.gov

Good to know we are using government services to advertise.

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:05:19am

re: #342 b.d.

So perfect that on FR climax day that the place fell apart.

This is obvious foreshadowing for the entire country, you know this?

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:05:31am

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

Maybe they can go with a Time Cube sorta thing, or hey, even better, a Universe People theme; you know, something really colorful.

WARNING: put on your sunglasses before looking at this. universe-people.com

Holy Mackinac! What the heck did I just (try to) see there?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:06:50am

re: #345 Anymouse

Holy Mackinac! What the heck did I just (try to) see there?

A local Czech UFO religion, started by Ivo Benda, a notorious crank.

en.wikipedia.org

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b.d.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:08:04am

re: #344 I cannot.

This is obvious foreshadowing for the entire country, you know this?

Shutting up and disappointing wingnuts? This may be a better 4 years than I thought.

//

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:09:37am

re: #346 Dr Lizardo

A local Czech UFO religion, started by Ivo Benda, a notorious crank.

en.wikipedia.org

UFO religion? Trying (really hard) to read that Website, it would appear that they worship aliens? Did I get that right?

My guess would be if there was an alien race somewhere that managed to overcome the vast distances between stars to come here, it would be for conquest, not to spread rainbows and unicorns. That could be just my human perspective though.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:11:51am

re: #348 Anymouse

UFO religion? Trying (really hard) to read that Website, it would appear that they worship aliens? Did I get that right?

My guess would be if there was an alien race somewhere that managed to overcome the vast distances between stars to come here, it would be for conquest, not to spread rainbows and unicorns. That could be just my human perspective though.

Yep, pretty much. They’re semi-apocalyptic in their beliefs as well, and definitely big on conspiracy theories. ETA: They’re probably the biggest local promulgators of the chemtrails conspiracy theory.

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b.d.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:12:15am

So presidential and he doesn’t sound insecure at all, what a uniter.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:13:41am

re: #350 b.d.

Oh yes. He is the best. ////////

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:15:06am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

Yep, pretty much. They’re semi-apocalyptic in their beliefs as well, and definitely big on conspiracy theories. ETA: They’re probably the biggest local promulgators of the chemtrails conspiracy theory.

The conversion of derp, apparently.

I read that Wikipedia article on them. That article noted some in the Czech press liken them to the Heaven’s Gate group and are concerned they might try the same thing as them.

Holy crap that Website has more “hippie garish” than my teenaged bedroom did (and I was really into hippy garish).

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b.d.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:16:22am

re: #351 PhillyPretzel

Oh yes. He is the best. ////////

The man became POTUS yesterday and the most important thing on his mind are the reviews of his speech.

Oy…

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:16:40am

President Obama still cool.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:21:05am

re: #352 Anymouse

The conversion of derp, apparently.

I read that Wikipedia article on them. That article noted some in the Czech press liken them to the Heaven’s Gate group and are concerned they might try the same thing as them.

Holy crap that Website has more “hippie garish” than my teenaged bedroom did (and I was really into hippy garish).

I’ve met and known a couple of them over the years……they’ve always struck me as rather harmless cranks; I never noticed any suicidal ideation, but you never know. They may just be good at hiding it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin - merde, nous allons mour  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:23:50am

re: #305 Alyosha

Mrs. Lapin will be down at the march in DC along with five of her cousins who came in from out of town.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:24:18am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I’ve met and known a couple of them over the years……they’ve always struck me as rather harmless cranks; I never noticed any suicidal ideation, but you never know. They may just be good at hiding it.

I try to avoid such people. As I recall, the Heaven’s Gate people didn’t start out with suicide as their goal either.

en.wikipedia.org

I was correct. They didn’t start that way, they started in the Seventies and didn’t commit suicide until the Nineties. They were started by the son of a Presbyterian minister.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:40:08am

re: #356 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mrs. Lapin will be down at the march in DC along with five of her cousins who came in from out of town.

Wife and I were organizing a van lift to Panama City’s Dem Women’s march. The Weather Underground (the new one, not the original) says tornadoes and small craft warnings are pending, so we’ve decided to show at a local conciousness-raising session.
(That’s like a house-raising, but with more chatter and fewer hammers.)

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:40:47am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:45:38am

Michelle Obama’s original Twitter channel is back on the air.

The photo just pulls on the ol’ heartstings:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:53:41am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:55:18am

This system has killed at least 4 overnight. Who is Trump’s FEMA guy? Brownie?

wunderground.com

wunderground.com

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Amory Blaine  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:55:29am

re: #309 Alyosha

Well done Alyosha!

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Alyosha  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:57:28am

re: #353 b.d.

This photo more than hints at the powers behind the Desk being more interested in the powers invested in their convenient figurehead than anything else.

Let Trump be Trump so long as he signs whatever crosses his desk.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 5:59:48am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

This system has killed at least 4 overnight. Who is Trump’s FEMA guy? Brownie?

wunderground.com

A searchable list of all nominees, vacancies, and approvals. (28 nominated, 2 confirmed, 660 have no nominee).

washingtonpost.com

There is no nominee for FEMA.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:00:36am

re: #365 Anymouse

A searchable list of all nominees, vacancies, and approvals. (28 nominated, 2 confirmed, 660 have no nominee).

washingtonpost.com

There is no nominee for FEMA.

Well, at least there’s that.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:01:31am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Well, at least there’s that.

What? No FEMA camps?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:03:17am

re: #367 Anymouse

What? No FEMA camps?

How shall we weave our Marxist potholders?

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:03:22am
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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:11:56am

Trump can’t go more than a few hours without lying, plagiarizing, or otherwise scamming people.

He takes the cake.

In fact, he literally stole the cake.

The cake on the left was made by Duff Goldman for Obama 4 years ago. The cake on the right wasn’t made by Duff, but was presented for Trump.

Then there’s the fact that he claims that he’s separated from his businesses. That too is a lie since change in business ownership or form requires filing papers to that end with the state of incorporation. That’s another lie, and goes to the Emoluments Clause (we’re going to get a lot of use out of that clause) violations.

Meanwhile, we’ve got right wingers cheering about that EO Trump issued regarding easing the burden of Obamacare. No one even knows what the hell that means. Not the GOP. Not Trump. Not even the CMS/HHS who have to follow those directives. It’s a meaningless statement. But the imagery matters, and he gets to claim that he’s acting. Never mind that it’s all smoke and mirrors.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:21:16am

What it means is ease the burden on the wealthy.

Also, ease the burden of life on those who need the ACA to pay for things like medical care.

If they privatise the VA, I’m screwed. The pre-existing condition of epilepsy means I could never get insurance.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:27:11am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:29:09am

Trump supporters are all over George Takai’s Twitter feed now pillorying him.

One example referring to the missing White House page on climate science:

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:31:52am

From the NYT public editor:

There is an unsettling theme that runs through The Times’s publishing decisions. In each instance, it was the actions of government officials that triggered newsroom decisions — not additional reporting or insight that journalists gained. On the server, once the F.B.I. signaled it had grown wary of its importance — without giving conclusive evidence as to why — the paper backed off. Weeks later, the Senate Democratic leader, Harry Reid, publicly admonished the F.B.I. for being secretive about its probe of Trump. That gave The Times cover to write what it knew about the bureau’s investigation into the bank server.

It was the same pattern on the dossier. Only after learning from CNN that Trump and President Obama had been briefed on the document did The Times publish what it had known for months. Its confidence in the material had not changed, nor did its editors know whether the top level briefing meant the government believed the information was true. But the briefing became justifiable cause to publish.

In this cat-and-mouse game between government and press, the government won.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:32:51am

re: #327 wheat-dogg

I was complaining about that last niught…happens when I click on the icon that brings up the comments. If I walk through the articles which has comments already enabled, all is well.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:33:38am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:38:37am

I would be surprised if the media actually covers this or gives a legit crowd size estimation. Because doing so humiliates Trump right out of the gate.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:39:58am

re: #376 Anymouse

If people die, that’s directly on Trump’s orange head.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:44:40am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:44:55am

re: #378 Myron Falwell

If people die, that’s directly on Trump’s orange head.

Nope, lazy liberals that couldn’t make their own arrangements and create Phenobarbital out of bootstraps. VA and CHAMPUS money saved could buy another F-35 or two.

Meanwhile, the Rude Pundit goes after Roger Stone, behind privacy bars:

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:45:17am

New hashtags to consider given Trump and GOP actions:

#GOPDontCare - that’s my favorite to both describe the GOP actions to replace Obamacare, but extends to the consequences of all their actions and how it shifts burdens to those are least able to endure them.

#TrumpSoPetty - this describes what Trump does in retaliation for those who report facts and logic on him. Attack and bully.

Essentially shutting down NPS Twitter is epitome of #TrumpSoPetty. Reporting crowd size and current conditions is something Twitter is designed to do - quick and easy to disseminate. But since those facts are not good for Trump, he shut it down.

What a petty asshat.

And even if you compare Trump’s turnout to Bush’s it still falls short. Or Reagan. Or GHWB. He just can’t stand fact people not only didn’t turn out, but actively shunned him. It’s all downhill from there for him, and I fear for the nation as the GOP moves to undo decades of social progress.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:46:26am

re: #289 Alyosha

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The love of another human being?
The petit mort of music?
The taste of a really good biscuit?
What a weirdo.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:51:40am

re: #381 lawhawk

There is a woman who lives in my village that, with her and her husband, used to own a monumental ranch in the Sandhills north of town.

Then he got cancer. He eventually died from it, but the medical bills stacked up so high that they lost their ranch to pay the bills.

They moved into a small house (even smaller than mine), living on Social Security.

Now it would appear that the GOP is after Medicare and Social Security, which would take the last of her income, such as it is.

I don’t know what to say to her about all this stuff her beloved party has done to her. My wife and I supported her through the loss of her husband, and helped out after his death with such things as cleaning.

She fell prey to the magic balance fairy argument of “both sides do it” and is no longer interested in things like voting.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:54:24am

re: #361 Charles Johnson

The regular media should refuse credentials based on SMOTI alone.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:58:29am

re: #383 Anymouse

The GOP has actively turned its back on the General Welfare of the citizens of the United States. You know, Article 1, Section 8 - the General Welfare clause.

They’d rather slash and burn the safety net, gut Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid leaving people with no options other than medically induced bankruptcy when they come upon serious medical conditions. HSAs can’t take the place of the programs the GOP is intent on smashing and grabbing so that the rich get bigger tax breaks.

Insurance across state lines wont solve matters either. The GOP don’t care.

All those people who voted for Trump because they wanted someone who wasn’t a politician will be screwed - we’re already seeing it as Trump trashes the PMI benefit through an EO.

It’s all downhill from there.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:59:24am

re: #384 Myron Falwell

The regular media should refuse credentials based on SMOTI alone.

They wont - because they want to retain access. That their own work is devalued for allowing someone who is uniquely unqualified to have credentials doesn’t even matter to them.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 6:59:45am

Trump’s cyber-czar Rudy Giuliani and thirteen other staffers already had accounts hacked and dumped on-line.

Perhaps our country will be saved by the utter incompetence of these guys.

channel4.com

Passwords used by Donald Trump’s incoming cyber security advisor Rudy Giuliani and 13 other top staff members have been leaked in mass hacks, a Channel 4 News investigation can reveal.

Passwords are publicly available for key members of Trump’s cabinet, White House policy directors and aides and some of his most senior advisors, this programme has discovered.

More at the link. Gaaaa. Incompetence so bad it should be criminal.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:01:04am

re: #383 Anymouse

I used to be a conservative prior to Trump’s campaign. For awhile, I felt that for the past 16 years, I lived a lie.

Cannot imagine the utter hell she must be going through as the GOP leaves her out to wither on the vine.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:01:29am

re: #307 Kragar

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Not so fast, we haven’t heard from the Cannibal contingent.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:03:07am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:05:38am

re: #303 Kragar

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:06:28am

re: #388 Myron Falwell

I used to be a conservative prior to Trump’s campaign. For awhile, I felt that for the past 16 years, I lived a lie.

Cannot imagine the utter hell she must be going through as the GOP leaves her out to wither on the vine.

And that’s a big problem here, with no inexpensive internet, only hate radio, a conservative newspaper, and no television service (or if you can get it, FOX).

We already live in a propaganda-controlled media environment here, and y’all who live in cities and such are about to see what that is like as well. When media outlets like the New York Times or NBC trade in their journalist credentials to be stenographers working alongside Deadbart and Roger (polonium-poisoned) Stone (but he got better).

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:09:46am

One of the reasons I never paid people like Mr. Johnson here until recently for the service they provide is because more than 5% of my meager VA cheque goes just to pay for Internet service (not counting the additional money I have to pay for a phone to support that too). Another significant fraction goes for magazine subscriptions to try to get news not printed in my regional paper.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:17:45am

Release tax returns petition on the White House Website now exceeds the number of signatures for a response.

petitions.whitehouse.gov

That said, I’m betting there will be no response, or doublespeak.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:19:13am
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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:22:13am

re: #390 lawhawk

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Democrats need to keep emphasizing that we want to represent all Americans, except Nazis.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:25:15am

re: #396 Belafon

Democrats need to keep emphasizing that we want to represent all Americans, except Nazis.

I’m trying where I live, but trying to counter forty years of propaganda by myself might take me more than a week or two.

Could use a couple hundred thousand liberals to move into my House district to help flip it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:25:39am

re: #395 Anymouse

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Tony, you literally supported a man for President who bragged about groping women.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:26:59am

re: #390 lawhawk

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Why not, Nixon had Buchanan, Trump has Bannon.

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while(1) worries++;  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:27:21am

re: #34 electrotek

Not sure I agree with this anymore.

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You don’t aim for the Neo-Nazi per se. That’s a lost soul anyway. You aim for those who agree with them, but are shy to join them.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:27:36am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:28:04am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Tony, you literally supported a man for President who bragged about groping women.

It’s okay if your a Christian, apparently. He will not be condemned from pulpits or in Christian magazines or such, the way any other person would be. It’s good to be the king.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:28:37am

re: #305 Alyosha

Before I start stepping on marches around the globe, I’ll post my own.

It was an excellent day. I went with my sister down to the State Library in Melbourne and the steps up front were rapidly filling. There was alot of joyous energy. So many nasty women tees, a bunch of knitted pink caps and a smattering of Yankee expats with signs bearing their dismay at their homeland’s new president.

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Good morning! I’m so glad I caught this!

Coffee now, then heading out to my local march!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:28:55am

re: #159 jaunte

I took a break and fortified myself with some California produce.

“Thank you, for your wine, California. Thank you, for your sweet and bitter fruits….”

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:29:45am

Turned on the tv briefly—MSNBC (even with the great Joy) goes from yakking with “both sides” while showing the women speaking at the rally on split screen with no sound to watching nothing happening in the National cathedral as they await the yam’s arrival.

Switch to CNN==they were showing the women’s speaker, then switched to the same “waiting for Trump” at church while Wolfie blabs.

Nope-guess I’ll watch a feed online.

Feel bad I’m not at an event—none local and I have a bunch of work to do today.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:30:59am

You know what, I break my own rule from time to time (Don’t read the comments) but I keep on seeing Trump supporters say “You lost because you call everyone not like you a racist or homophobe.”, And it’s like uh, you were the ones who questioned our previous President’s love of country, you likened transgendered people to sex offenders for just trying to use the bathroom, and yes you continue to insist that minorities just want “free stuff.” And despite what many of these conservatives believe, we on the left don’t believe they’re racist because they’re conservatives, we believe they’re racist because of their own actions. Ana Navarro? I disagree with her on probably most issues. I don’t think she’s a racist. And yes George W. Bush for all my faults with him and man I have a lot, I don’t think is a racist. Trump? A racist. Bannon? Absolutely, if you ever actually saw the shit Breitbart pushes, and Spencer? He doesn’t even hide it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:31:50am

re: #400 while(1) worries++;

You don’t aim for the Neo-Nazi per se. That’s a lost soul anyway. You aim for those who agree with them, but are shy to join them.

Still a waste of time. Those bastards are also too dense to be penetrated. There are about 30 million Amiable Apathetics that form the workable field of endeavour. If the coming Trump nightmare doesn’t get them back in the game, there is no return to civilization.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:32:05am

re: #405 BeachDem

Turned on the tv briefly—MSNBC (even with the great Joy) goes from yakking with “both sides” while showing the women speaking at the rally on split screen with no sound to watching nothing happening in the National cathedral as they await the yam’s arrival.

Switch to CNN==they were showing the women’s speaker, then switched to the same “waiting for Trump” at church while Wolfie blabs.

Nope-guess I’ll watch a feed online.

Feel bad I’m not at an event—none local and I have a bunch of work to do today.

Shouldn’t be too much longer until you get the same propaganda we already have had for years.

The media is going to try and force normalisation of this, because they value access more than journalism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:32:09am

re: #402 Anymouse

It’s okay if your a Christian, apparently. He will not be condemned from pulpits or in Christian magazines or such, the way any other person would be. It’s good to be the king.

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Well, it’s okay if you’re a conservative Christian. Obama was a Christian too and that didn’t stop Mr. I used David Duke’s mailer list from accusing him of all sorts of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:32:45am

re: #405 BeachDem

Turned on the tv briefly—MSNBC (even with the great Joy) goes from yakking with “both sides” while showing the women speaking at the rally on split screen with no sound to watching nothing happening in the National cathedral as they await the yam’s arrival.

Switch to CNN==they were showing the women’s speaker, then switched to the same “waiting for Trump” at church while Wolfie blabs.

Nope-guess I’ll watch a feed online.

Feel bad I’m not at an event—none local and I have a bunch of work to do today.

My youngest brother has caught a terrible case of Bothsiditis.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:33:21am

re: #402 Anymouse

It’s okay if your a Christian, apparently. He will not be condemned from pulpits or in Christian magazines or such, the way any other person would be. It’s good to be the king.

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Well, yeah, because they all know that Pence —who is what Tony Perkins, et. al, believe in — will be pulling Trump’s strings WRT stuff like this.

An analogy to this is 1600s France, where Cardinal Mazarin was the de facto ruler, and Louis XIV was his understudy.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:40:34am

The storms that tore up Mississippi are just about here. I’ve ballasted down the grow tunnel cover and it’s time to put on fresh underwear.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:41:51am

And there goers the NOAA radio. They’re still in business.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:42:39am

re: #413 Decatur Deb

And there goers the NOAA radio. They’re still in business.

Stay safe.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:45:34am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:48:19am

My son lives in Jacksonville, so he is going to get your weather next. NWS is calling for three rounds of heavy thunderstorms along with a nasty gust front with the third line.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:49:20am

Is there any way to link a pdf file here without the whole pdf being displayed in the comment (just a link)?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:49:43am

re: #391 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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Can we start our own “Deport Piers Morgan” petition?

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:52:48am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:54:37am

Bunches of gunfire down at the river … hunting season is still on I guess.

Either that, or it is a new way to go fishing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:56:13am

re: #416 Anymouse

My son lives in Jacksonville, so he is going to get your weather next. NWS is calling for three rounds of heavy thunderstorms along with a nasty gust front with the third line.

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So far it’s just heavy rain. If the wind gets much above 20, I’ll have to go out and deliberately reef the cover of the grow tunnel. Should look like a scene from Captains Courageous.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 7:58:59am

re: #421 Decatur Deb

So far it’s just heavy rain. If the wind gets much above 20, I’ll have to go out and deliberately reef the cover of the grow tunnel. Should look like a scene from Captains Courageous.

Here it’s mostly sunny and 22F.

Ordered more insulin for the cat … will go to Scottsbluff Monday to pick it up. ($100 a bottle, 3 bottles, Felix Randomkitty is very high maintenance, though he thinks he is worth it. Well, we do too.)

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:13:59am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:14:32am
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:15:25am

FFS, MSNBC, can you please cut away from this farce at the National Cathedral?

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:16:18am

Proud to say our daughter flew across the country and is currently at the Women’s March. I was torn on going to a local event but I’m still recovering from a bruised tendon on my foot and am not sure that all the standing and walking would be good for it. Prudence wins the day-but I’m cheering others on.
I hope the totals in DC beat the inauguration.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:18:44am

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:21:20am

(FYI: I blocked this “Zaush” creep awhile back for different reasons.)

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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:22:10am

re: #370 lawhawk

Trump can’t go more than a few hours without lying, plagiarizing, or otherwise scamming people.

He takes the cake.

In fact, he literally stole the cake.

At least Obama’s cake is straight and upright. The top three layers on Trump’s cake are falling over. The proportions are shit.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:22:23am

re: #425 Ace Rothstein

FFS, MSNBC, can you please cut away from this farce at the National Cathedral?

Nope. Religion. Gotta keep reminding the country else they might do something else. Like attend a worldwide women’s march for rights.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:25:05am

Women and men on every continent, but Trump attending church has to be broadcast. That “go in your closet and pray to your Father in secret” thing that is so often ignored in the New Testament.

Every continent.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:25:05am

re: #430 Anymouse

Nope. Religion. Gotta keep reminding the country else they might do something else. Like attend a worldwide women’s march for rights.

At this point they’re entering Baghdad Bob status.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:26:52am

re: #432 Myron Falwell

At this point they’re entering Baghdad Bob status.

They did that back when they started trading “access” for “journalism” back in the Republican primaries.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:28:46am

After a conversation with a family member:
Shorter wingnuts:
2009: Marching/protesting was a patriotic duty to stop that tyrant Obama.
2017: Anyone marching/protesting is a sole loser who should be at work.

Perfect example of the absurd double standard that exists for anyone who isn’t “them”.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:30:04am

From one of my Facebook friends… Public Square in Downtown Cleveland at 11:00 a.m. EST.

“Nope… nothing to see here!”
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:30:39am
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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:31:07am

re: #391 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan
I’m planning a ‘Men’s March’ to protest at the creeping global emasculation of my gender by rabid feminists. Who’s with me?

Masculinity, he’s doing it wrong.

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:32:04am

re: #434 Timothy Watson

After a conversation with a family member:
Shorter wingnuts:
2009: Marching/protesting was a patriotic duty to stop that tyrant Obama.
2017: Anyone marching/protesting is a sole loser who should be at work.

Perfect example of the absurd double standard that exists for anyone who isn’t “them”.

Yeah. Well how about people who fly across the country overnight, protest, come home Sunday and show up for work on Monday morning? Sore losers? Maybe. Missing work? Hardly.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:33:46am

re: #434 Timothy Watson

After a conversation with a family member:
Shorter wingnuts:
2009: Marching/protesting was a patriotic duty to stop that tyrant Obama.
2017: Anyone marching/protesting is a sole loser who should be at work.

Perfect example of the absurd double standard that exists for anyone who isn’t “them”.

Wingnut doublespeak:

Liberal protesters marching don’t have jobs, why don’t they have one like we do.

Never mentioned:

Thanks, Obama, that I have a job.

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:33:54am

re: #437 stpaulbear

Masculinity, he’s doing it wrong.

True, but I suggest he go ahead, plan that march and see how many show up. They can all go have a manly drink in a small bar somewhere afterwards.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:34:51am

re: #433 Anymouse

They did that back when they started trading “access” for “journalism” back in the Republican primaries.

The MBF virus notwithstanding, I was thinking of when the US Army tanks rolled in behind Baghdad Bob’s back… 😉

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:37:05am

re: #441 Myron Falwell

The MBF virus notwithstanding, I was thinking of when the US Army tanks rolled in behind Baghdad Bob’s back… 😉

Unpossible they are being crushed on the walls of Baghdad!

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:38:06am

OK—have loved all of the speakers so far, but Michael Moore is getting on my nerves.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:38:25am
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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:40:39am
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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:42:14am

Yay—Ashley Judd takes over the stage in the middle of Michael Moore’s diatribe.

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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:42:47am

re: #436 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Who’s the kid stuck front and center? Every photo I’ve seen of him looks like he’d eat rocks to get out of being where he is. He looks miserable. Is he a grandkid?

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:43:58am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:44:12am

re: #447 stpaulbear

Who’s the kid stuck front and center? Every photo I’ve seen of him looks like he’d eat rocks to get out of being where he is. He looks miserable. Is he a grandkid?

Barron, a late-onset son.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:45:30am

re: #444 Myron Falwell

Looks like there’s a march in Abilene, TX.

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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:46:45am

re: #449 Decatur Deb

Barron, a late-onset son.

Thanks. I thought Barron was much younger.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:47:18am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:47:54am

re: #451 stpaulbear

Thanks. I thought Barron was much younger.

Older photos, esp. him miserable on the more-miserable stuffed lion.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:48:31am

Forget it, I’m rollin’ on Facebook:

Frankly, it’s a perfect example of the absurd double standard that exists for anyone who isn’t “them”.

Clinton was one of (if not the most) qualified people to run for President and conservatives/GOP’s response?

Pavlovian hatred that resulted in the election of a short-fingered vulgarian.

It’s perfectly okay for whites to subsist on welfare and socialized medicine, but God forbid if they see an African-American or Latino in front of them at the grocery store checkout with an EBT card.

And their response when the GOP Congress and Trump start to repeal the Affordable Care Act after spending seven and two years, respectively, promising to do exactly that? “Oh, they wouldn’t do that to ME.”

We know who the precious little snowflakes are now, don’t we?

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:49:53am

re: #395 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:51:31am

Two in my state: Omaha and Lincoln.

The march in Omaha begins at 5PM Central Time.
facebook.com

The march in Lincoln begins at 2PM Central Time.
actionnetwork.org

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:55:05am

re: #448 Anymouse

With one caveat: it’s all over social media, attracting the youngest people.

Same with @teenvogue. The future of media consumption is ultimately not in the alphabet networks but in social media and the internet. It’s a double-edged sword because of the RWNJs embracing propaganda like Breitbart, SMOTI and Alex Jones, and retweet and share their lies unironically. But that’s not to say all is lost; Teen Vogue will no doubt inspire other outlets and channels to be as courageous and strong as they are.

Moreover, a propaganda outfit like Fox — whose median age of viewership is in the late 60s — wouldn’t take the coverage seriously to begin with. Example: Tucker acting like a sexist pig towards Lauren Duca.

The sooner we turn off the news networks and cancel our cable subscriptions, the better off we’ll be… except for literal twilight zones like Anymouse’s corner of Nebraska… 😕

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Lupin  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:55:13am

If I remember correctly, even since Clinton, the Preznit can be sued.

I’ll donate money to any organization planning to sue Caligula Citrouille.

I want him buried under lawsuits. Literally, even.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:55:16am

The reasons I’m sitting on my ass and not protesting:
I hate crowds and I hate dealing with traffic, if I had tried to go to D.C., I would probably still be trying to find a place to park in Franconia-Springfield to get on the Metro.

I also hate crowds and if something stupid happens that results in arrests, given where I work, I really don’t need an arrest record.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:56:41am

re: #458 Lupin

If I remember correctly, even since Clinton, the Preznit can be sued.

I’ll donate money to any organization planning to sue Caligula Citrouille.

I want him buried under lawsuits. Literally, even.

ACLU is on the case:
aclu.org

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:56:50am

re: #458 Lupin

If I remember correctly, even since Clinton, the Preznit can be sued.

I’ll donate money to any organization planning to sue Caligula Citrouille.

I want him buried under lawsuits. Literally, even.

Yes, I read the other day that it was none other than Kellyanne Conway’s husband who had a central role in making that happen by going after Clinton on behalf of Paula Jones.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 8:59:28am
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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:00:08am

Ugh. I’m currently getting the “GIVE TRUMP A CHANCE!” song and dance on FB, along with supposed examples of his “charity” to try and prove to me that Trump isn’t the sleazy, morally bankrupt, vacuous liar I know him to be

I’ve already made it clear I’m not going to read any of the “proof” of Trump’s charity but the links keep coming.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:00:15am

Women’s March Periscope:
periscope.tv

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:00:56am

Sorry if I’ve posted this before, but I can’t enough of this song:

Two Steps From Hell - Dangerous

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:01:12am

re: #451 stpaulbear

Thanks. I thought Barron was much younger.

He’s ten I believe but tall for his age.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:02:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:02:58am

re: #454 Timothy Watson

Forget it, I’m rollin’ on Facebook:

They call us snowflakes but they’re the ones who want the law to coddle their religious beliefs. Listen, you can belong to a church that believes heinous stuff about gay people. I’d be less likely to associate with you becaues of that but when it gets in the way of you doing your job, it starts to be a problem. If I were a bartender, there would be hell to pay if I refused to serve a man wearing a MAGA hat and claimed I couldn’t do so because of my “deeply held principles.”

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Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:03:50am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Fox “News” is pure evil.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:04:32am
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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:05:32am
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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:06:27am

re: #463 Lidane

Ugh. I’m currently getting the “GIVE TRUMP A CHANCE!” song and dance on FB, along with supposed examples of his “charity”.

I’ve already made it clear I’m not going to read any of the “proof” of Trump’s charity but the links keep coming.

You might try asking how they will measure Trump’s success or failure-and what the time frame is.
For example, do they expect to see a 10% increase in well paying manufacturing and mining jobs in the next year?
Will there be a significant outlay on infrastructure improvements begun within the next 6 to 8 months? If so, will these be funded by government or be privately funded with the extra expenses to users that it entails. Will people in sparsely populated areas have to do without since there aren’t enough users to pay for improvements and turn a profit?

These are things I really want to know, but since I’m not on much in the way of social media and live in a deep blue area, I don’t have a lot of people to ask.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:06:36am

re: #471 Belafon

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Watch all the bros be pissed since Offerman is different than his Ron Swanson character IRL even though Swanson is clearly poking fun of people like the character is.

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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:07:36am

This is a Facebook friend’s comment this morning:

I normally hate traffic. But I’ve never been so proud or happy to be in a gridlock. This is bigger than I dreamt it would be. I love you all!

This is for the Women’s March in St. Paul. I backed out on going because I’m on the verge of a cold. It’s in the mid-30’s and raining here today, which is nice for January in MN, but also good for making the cold worse. I’m feeling bad about not being there, but it sounds like there’s a gigantic crowd.

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Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:09:32am

re: #472 calochortus

You might try asking how they will measure Trump’s success or failure-and what the time frame is.

They’ll measure it by how badly he treats the people they hate.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:09:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:09:59am

Conservatives if they want liberals to stop saying conservatives are bigots need to realize the problem isn’t with liberals, it’s with their own ideology. Whether conservatives in this country want to admit it or not, conservative ideology leads itself much easier to bigotry than liberal ideology.

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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:10:19am

re: #472 calochortus

You might try asking how they will measure Trump’s success or failure-and what the time frame is.
For example, do they expect to see a 10% increase in well paying manufacturing and mining jobs in the next year?
Will there be a significant outlay on infrastructure improvements begun within the next 6 to 8 months? If so, will these be funded by government or be privately funded with the extra expenses to users that it entails. Will people in sparsely populated areas have to do without since there aren’t enough users to pay for improvements and turn a profit?

These are things I really want to know, but since I’m not on much in the way of social media and live in a deep blue area, I don’t have a lot of people to ask.

I decided to just block that guy. It was a thread on a friend’s page and he was just spamming links at me over and over and over to try and prove that Trump is somehow a generous, charitable soul who gives millions to help others.

It’s not worth having a rational conversation with a random stranger who’s just going to spam me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:10:40am

re: #476 BeachDem

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Oh go hang out with Alex Jones in traffic, Jr and let the adults talk.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:11:44am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:11:50am

A couple friends in Eastern Nebraska E-mailed me this morning if I knew anything about Women’s Marches occurring in their part of the state: I directed them to the Facebook pages for Omaha and Lincoln.

Maybe there is no march here, but I can help others find them.

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:11:52am

re: #478 Lidane

And that’s a good way to deal with it, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:12:20am

re: #478 Lidane

I decided to just block that guy. It was a thread on a friend’s page and he was just spamming links at me over and over and over to try and prove that Trump is somehow a generous, charitable soul who gives millions to help others.

It’s not worth having a rational conversation with a random stranger who’s just going to spam me.

I don’t do a lot of political discussion especially on friends political pages because of that. One of my friends had a FB friend, someone she wasn’t even that close with that always had obnoxious political opinions. I get the idea of engaging those you disagree with but when someone pushes obvious bullshit, it’s a lot easier said than done. It’s why I choose not to engage with a good friend of my own who spews wingnut bullshit.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:12:25am

Nun 0n the Bus now speaking at the march.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:14:39am

re: #470 Belafon

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I’m so old I remember when guys supported women’s causes to get laid.
Aristophanes led the way.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:15:09am

Cecile looking POWERFUL in Pink! (Maybe an addition PP donation is in order today.)

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:15:17am

re: #472 calochortus

You might try asking how they will measure Trump’s success or failure-and what the time frame is.
For example, do they expect to see a 10% increase in well paying manufacturing and mining jobs in the next year?
Will there be a significant outlay on infrastructure improvements begun within the next 6 to 8 months? If so, will these be funded by government or be privately funded with the extra expenses to users that it entails. Will people in sparsely populated areas have to do without since there aren’t enough users to pay for improvements and turn a profit?

These are things I really want to know, but since I’m not on much in the way of social media and live in a deep blue area, I don’t have a lot of people to ask.

Since I do live in a sparsely populated area where investment is unable to turn a profit, do you mind if I save your questions in case someone asks me that? (No one has yet, but that might be because they already know I am a real “never Trumper” (that is, a Democrat).

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:15:57am

re: #484 BeachDem

Nun 0n the Bus now speaking at the march.

Wife puts diesel in that bus.

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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:18:32am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

I don’t do a lot of political discussion especially on friends political pages because of that. One of my friends had a FB friend, someone she wasn’t even that close with that always had obnoxious political opinions. I get the idea of engaging those you disagree with but when someone pushes obvious bullshit, it’s a lot easier said than done. It’s why I choose not to engage with a good friend of my own who spews wingnut bullshit.

My friend voted Trump and she had a post about how it was “fake news” that the civil rights, LGBT and healthcare pages were removed from the White House site because the Obama pages were just being archived and Trump would have his own pages for those subjects soon.

I posted a single response: “Doesn’t matter what the excuse is. Trump’s going to be a disaster anyway.” and then it all started downhill from there. Random people on her list — all white men, BTW — started ranting at me calling me Chicken Little and telling me that I’ve just been misled by the media to be afraid of the world of shit Trump’s about to rain down on people.

I’m tired of Trump voters trying to gaslight me and get me to try and pretend that we’re not in a world of shit right now with that sleaze in office.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:18:56am
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sagehen  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:20:21am

re: #118 Franklin

Unrelated but seems so related:

Watching the new show “Designated Survivor” and it’s pretty damn good. Anyone else watch it yet?

I’ve been watching; I started with it because I love Kiefer Sutherland and Maggie Q, but now I’m enjoying the plot-line and less-than-subtle subtweeting at “conservatives”. The political POV seems very similar to “Jericho”…

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:20:27am

re: #489 Lidane

My whole town has been really quiet about Donald Trump since it seems to have dawned on a lot of people they might have been scammed. No one has mentioned a word to me about him. Nada.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:21:03am

re: #489 Lidane

My friend voted Trump and she had a post about how it was “fake news” that the civil rights, LGBT and healthcare pages were removed from the White House site because the Obama pages were just being archived and Trump would have his own pages for those subjects soon.

I posted a single response: “Doesn’t matter what the excuse is. Trump’s going to be a disaster anyway.” and then it all started downhill from there. Random people on her list — all white men, BTW — started ranting at me calling me Chicken Little and telling me that I’ve just been misled by the media to be afraid of the world of shit Trump’s about to rain down on people.

I’m tired of Trump voters trying to gaslight me and get me to try and pretend that we’re not in a world of shit right now with that sleaze in office.

At the very least, the removal of those pages indicates to me that he doesn’t see those as important issues. But yeah I’m getting frustrated too. My youngest brother for some reason has decided to play MBF a lot lately for some reason and it’s getting really annoying. I cut him slack. He’s young and still in school but his bitching about feminists is bothering me because he insists there is no pay gap even though all evidence shows there in fact is and a racial one as well.

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:22:32am

re: #487 Anymouse

Since I do live in a sparsely populated area where investment is unable to turn a profit, do you mind if I save your questions in case someone asks me that? (No one has yet, but that might be because they already know I am a real “never Trumper” (that is, a Democrat).

Of course-ask when you can. I’d love to hear the response, if any. I’ve asked a couple people in on-line hobby related forums, but really haven’t gotten a coherent answer. It does tend to shut people up, though since it’s not confrontational and requires some actual thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:22:57am

re: #490 Anymouse

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Meanwhile Fox carried every little whinefest at Obama for simply existing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:23:10am

re: #492 Anymouse

My whole town has been really quiet about Donald Trump since it seems to have dawned on a lot of people they might have been scammed. No one has mentioned a word to me about him. Nada.

They’re afraid you’ll go all Bernardine Dhorn at the next potluck.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:24:18am

Best response:

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calochortus  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:25:04am

Time to go do something constructive.
Catch you all later.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:25:34am

So here’s something i’ve been thinking about. Wingnuts love to complain about all the special interest groups. Uh what about the N fucking RA? The people who treat any attempt to sensibly prevent gun violence as an attack on the 2nd amendment. Oh that’s right, identity politics is okay if you’re a straight white male with a gun.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:26:07am

GQ Magazine in the United Kingdom with some first class snark on Inauguration fashion yesterday …

gq-magazine.co.uk (more at the link)

It’s happened. It has. There’s no denying it. While the inauguration of Donald Trump may not have attracted a star-studded line-up - barely even a queue, to be honest - there was still plenty to feast your eyes upon. They say that we express ourselves through our clothes, and what we choose to wear when we know the world is watching is perhaps the most telling of all. While I didn’t get an invite to the big event, and my style credentials are shaky to say the least, I’ve always dreamed of pirouetting down a red carpet hollering “Who are you wearing?!” at people in expensive evening-wear. Allow me, then, to weigh up the threads of some of the higher profile attendees at what was basically the gateway drug to the apocalypse.

Trump could’ve sashayed into his inauguration in a wet-look cardigan, ra-ra skirt and silver platforms and his science-defying hair and Fanta-inspired phizzog would still be the most out-there thing going on. When the orange mist had cleared, it was comforting to see that even as president, he was determined to wear his tie ten feet long as usual. What’s he hiding behind it? Bratwurst for the inauguration ball?

Let’s be real, Obama could look stylish in a bin bag, and if he’d opened the door of the White House in one, it may well have been a fitting comment on his successor. Dignified, authoritative, statesmanly chic as ever from Barack.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:27:26am
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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:27:31am

re: #494 calochortus

Of course-ask when you can. I’d love to hear the response, if any. I’ve asked a couple people in on-line hobby related forums, but really haven’t gotten a coherent answer. It does tend to shut people up, though since it’s not confrontational and requires some actual thought.

And there’s the thing. If a lot of his voters had thought about his so-called “proposals” beyond “Make America Great Again,” they might have rethought their support.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:29:34am

re: #501 Belafon

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And of course the idiot wingnuts will insist that there are so many of them because they’re not working because you know most people ohld a weekend job.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:29:45am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:30:28am

re: #501 Belafon

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Yeah, but fewer of the people who count—-billionaires.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:31:10am

I expect CSPAN to become Fox lite any day now.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:32:54am

Surprised no one has posted this song yet:

Helen Reddy - I Am Woman (Midnight Special - Feb 2, 1973)

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:34:55am

Dem women legislators on stage—Tammy Duckworth there (the pan was quick, so I didn’t see everyone);

Kamala Harris talking now.
And love or hate her, DWC standing next to her.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:35:08am

So far I’ve had to unfollow POTUS 5 Times and when I check back, Twitter makes me a follower again…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:36:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:36:11am

re: #508 BeachDem

Dem women legislators on stage—Tammy Duckworth there (the pan was quick, so I didn’t see everyone);

Kamala Harris talking now.
And love or hate her, DWC standing next to her.

DWS has every right to be there. I think she could have done better as DNC chair but she’s not the terrible person many people say she is.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:37:12am

re: #118 Franklin

Unrelated but seems so related:

Watching the new show “Designated Survivor” and it’s pretty damn good. Anyone else watch it yet?

Need to start, been meaning to anyway since I was a huge 24 fan back in the day and wondered how Kiefer Sutherland was in the show.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:38:20am

re: #509 Joe Bacon

So far I’ve had to unfollow POTUS 5 Times and when I check back, Twitter makes me a follower again…

Did you try blocking?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:38:58am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

DWS has every right to be there. I think she could have done better as DNC chair but she’s not the terrible person many people say she is.

And BernieBros running her and the Executive Director of the DNC out sure didn’t help with the fucking election.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:39:12am

Hey BeachDem though, a friend of mine posted something on Facebook about Tulsi Gabbard visiting Syria without the knowledge of the Dem leadership in Congress. Man we dodged a bullet with her. If Bernie had won the nomination, she would have been rewarded simply because she supported him. She really is a Democrat I’m not fond of and I hope she’s primaried next year. It’s got nothing to do with her support of Sanders. I’m for Keith Ellison, Jeff Markley, and a lot of the other Dems that supported Bernie remaining but Gabbard is awful.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:39:56am

re: #514 Timothy Watson

And BernieBros running her and the Executive Director of the DNC out sure didn’t help with the fucking election.

Nope they sure didn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:42:34am

What really pisses me off though and I like Keith Ellison mind you but I hate seeing Tom Perez smeared as a “neo-lib” simply because he supported Clinton. I want people to get their jobs on their merits not whether they supported Sanders or not. It seems to me the only reason why the Bros are pushing Ellison is his support of Sanders and by extension to them that makes Perez bad. Really if I could go a lifetime with never hearing “Neo-lib” again, I’d be happy. I’m a proud pragmatic center left Dem. I value reality and I don’t think we need a “revolution” to make our country a better place.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:42:35am

re: #513 Timothy Watson

Did you try blocking?

YES! And they CENSORED keep unblocking me and my account follows President Pee Pee again and again and…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:43:50am

re: #515 HappyWarrior

Hey BeachDem though, a friend of mine posted something on Facebook about Tulsi Gabbard visiting Syria without the knowledge of the Dem leadership in Congress. Man we dodged a bullet with her. If Bernie had won the nomination, she would have been rewarded simply because she supported him. She really is a Democrat I’m not fond of and I hope she’s primaried next year. It’s got nothing to do with her support of Sanders. I’m for Keith Ellison, Jeff Markley, and a lot of the other Dems that supported Bernie remaining but Gabbard is awful.

I’ve really got a problem with her hatred of Muslims

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:44:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:46:39am

theonion.com
I’m going to miss these and I was really looking forward to fun ones about Kaine.
theonion.com
Here’s their first one on Pence. It’s not as fun because honestly I can actually believe this.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:47:21am

re: #515 HappyWarrior

Hey BeachDem though, a friend of mine posted something on Facebook about Tulsi Gabbard visiting Syria without the knowledge of the Dem leadership in Congress. Man we dodged a bullet with her. If Bernie had won the nomination, she would have been rewarded simply because she supported him. She really is a Democrat I’m not fond of and I hope she’s primaried next year. It’s got nothing to do with her support of Sanders. I’m for Keith Ellison, Jeff Markley, and a lot of the other Dems that supported Bernie remaining but Gabbard is awful.

Yep—she went on a “fact-finding” trip, won’t disclose who paid for it, and RT’s header was Establishment Outraged!!!

You know I have never been a Tulsi fan, and that was from long before the Bernie campaign. I just don’t trust her—think she’s a spotlight seeker and out for herself. YMMV

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:47:36am

re: #520 Anymouse

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These people need to register and vote in all elections. Our resurrection will have to begin on the local levels. If I get time this summer and fall, I may volunteer on the governor election here in VA.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:47:38am

re: #374 Belafon

From the NYT public editor:

In other words the New York Times admits it can be easily misled by a government agency that doesn’t want it snooping around.

Great job New York Times.

What are you good for again?

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:47:57am

London

Edinburgh

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:48:01am

There is a LOT of conservative whigning on the Women’s March hashtag on Twitter.

It’s almost as if they are special snowflakes that need safe spaces, but since they can’t get a safe space they are left with lashing out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:48:43am

re: #522 BeachDem

Yep—she went on a “fact-finding” trip, won’t disclose who paid for it, and RT’s header was Establishment Outraged!!!

You know I have never been a Tulsi fan, and that was from long before the Bernie campaign. I just don’t trust her—think she’s a spotlight seeker and out for herself. YMMV

Yep you had a bad feeling about her. I honestly didn’t know a lot about her but was superficially impressed with her. I agree with you. She’s only out for herself. The Dems need to nip her in the bud.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:49:25am

re: #525 Alephnaught

London

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Wonder if my cousin is there.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:49:49am

Kirsten then Tammy for women OH MY!!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:49:51am

re: #522 BeachDem

Yep—she went on a “fact-finding” trip, won’t disclose who paid for it, and RT’s header was Establishment Outraged!!!

You know I have never been a Tulsi fan, and that was from long before the Bernie campaign. I just don’t trust her—think she’s a spotlight seeker and out for herself. YMMV

I saw wingnut-dudebro convergence on Facebook where wingnuts were talking about how she stood up to that tyrant Obama, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:51:11am

re: #519 Joe Bacon

I’ve really got a problem with her hatred of Muslims

I do too. The Bros seriously wanted her to be SOS or SOD in a hypothetical Sanders admin. Again, it was showing no knowledge about her positions and simply wanting to reward someone who supported their guy which sadly is the only reason they’re pushing Ellison for DNC Chair- whom I like but at the same time attacking Tom Perez, whom I also like.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:51:20am

re: #523 HappyWarrior

These people need to register and vote in all elections. Our resurrection will have to begin on the local levels. If I get time this summer and fall, I may volunteer on the governor election here in VA.

YES! The first pair of battles to turn back President Pee Pee will be in Virginia and New Jersey. Democrats need to pull out all the stops to turn back the RepubliKKKlans in both of those states!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:51:59am

re: #530 Timothy Watson

I saw wingnut-dudebro convergence on Facebook where wingnuts were talking about how she stood up to that tyrant Obama, etc.

She’s an Assad apologist IIRC. My state senator is too.

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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:52:07am

Angry white guys still bleating at me even though I haven’t responded to anything in ages. Looks like I’mma have to start blocking people again.

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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:52:38am

I don’t know about ya’ll but between nazis getting punched and millions of women roaring I haven’t been this happy since the day before the election.

(and there better be a lot of men there too)

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:52:40am

I can see Kirsten Gillibrand or Tammy Duckworth running for President someday.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:53:13am

re: #523 HappyWarrior

These people need to register and vote in all elections. Our resurrection will have to begin on the local levels. If I get time this summer and fall, I may volunteer on the governor election here in VA.

I hope there’s someone doing voter registration at least for Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:54:08am

re: #532 Joe Bacon

YES! The first pair of battles to turn back President Pee Pee will be in Virginia and New Jersey. Democrats need to pull out all the stops to turn back the RepubliKKKlans in both of those states!

I feel good about New Jersey. Virginia, it honestly will depend on turnout and who the Republicans nominate. I personally think the deplorables are going to feel emboldened by Trump and nominate Corey Stewart. Timothy, what do you think? I think had Trump lost, we might have seen a more establishment Republican get the nod. Corey Stewart may be even worse than Ken Cuccinelli since he has all of Coochy’s wacky social policy views with Trump/Joe Arpaio like views on immigrants and this state has a lot of immigrants in it. I work for one and a lot of our clients are.

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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:54:19am

Twitter’s translate needs a ShitAss translator:

Translate from Haitian Creole
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:54:27am

re: #537 Timothy Watson

I hope there’s someone doing voter registration at least for Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. there.

Yeah I hope so too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:55:04am

re: #526 Anymouse

There is a LOT of conservative whigning on the Women’s March hashtag on Twitter.

It’s almost as if they are special snowflakes that need safe spaces, but since they can’t get a safe space they are left with lashing out.

Manhood has been under assault from feminism for too long! This must stop!!!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:55:08am

Traffic alerts on WTOP:

All Metro trains are bypassing L’Enfant Plaza Station due to crowding.

Federal Triangle Metro Station reopens, but systemwide delays on Metro remain as crowds form for the Women’s March.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:55:21am

re: #536 Anymouse

I can see Kirsten Gillibrand or Tammy Duckworth running for President someday.

I like both of those ladies. I want to see what Duckworth focuses on in the Senate but Gillibrand is a good Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:55:50am

re: #542 Timothy Watson

Traffic alerts on WTOP:

And you saw WMATA yesterday. Good.

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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:56:21am

re: #536 Anymouse

I can see Kirsten Gillibrand or Tammy Duckworth running for President someday.

I’ve been thinking about Hillary, 2018, and 2020.

She probably won’t run for any office, but her and Michelle campaigning for a wave of women the next two elections as a response to Trump seems very real today.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:56:32am

re: #531 HappyWarrior

I do too. The Bros seriously wanted her to be SOS or SOD in a hypothetical Sanders admin. Again, it was showing no knowledge about her positions and simply wanting to reward someone who supported their guy which sadly is the only reason they’re pushing Ellison for DNC Chair- whom I like but at the same time attacking Tom Perez, whom I also like.

Hell, there were a lot of Bros who wanted her to be Bernie’s VP (those who weren’t gaga over Nina Turner.)

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:56:55am

re: #523 HappyWarrior

These people need to register and vote in all elections. Our resurrection will have to begin on the local levels. If I get time this summer and fall, I may volunteer on the governor election here in VA.

Pretty much everyone here is already registered to vote. (Nebraska has one of the highest voter turnouts in the nation thanks to mail voting.) That said, this area is overwhelmingly Republican, so the task at hand is to educate people here on what our party stands for. Tough, since the media here pretty much ignores us.

I still have my letter to the editor pen handy though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:58:45am

re: #546 BeachDem

Hell, there were a lot of Bros who wanted her to be Bernie’s VP (those who weren’t gaga over Nina Turner.)

Yeah I remember that too. For a movement that insists it’s about “us”, that movement became very cult of personality for me since their litmus tests have become about whether someone or something meets Bernie’s approval. I confess, I wasn’t happy when Obama made Clinton his SOS but I conceded A) He knows a hell of a lot more than I do and B) She deserved a chance to prove herself.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:58:58am

re: #538 HappyWarrior

I feel good about New Jersey. Virginia, it honestly will depend on turnout and who the Republicans nominate. I personally think the deplorables are going to feel emboldened by Trump and nominate Corey Stewart. Timothy, what do you think? I think had Trump lost, we might have seen a more establishment Republican get the nod. Corey Stewart may be even worse than Ken Cuccinelli since he has all of Coochy’s wacky social policy views with Trump/Joe Arpaio like views on immigrants and this state has a lot of immigrants in it. I work for one and a lot of our clients are.

Hard to say, the primary isn’t until June, I wonder if Trump might flame out by then. Gillespie definitely has the advantage in money over Stewart, but it’s always hard predicting turnout for a primary.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 9:59:01am

re: #541 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Manhood has been under assault from feminism for too long! This must stop!!!

I dunno, I haven’t noticed it. I guess they already got to me.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:00:37am

Adorable little girl now giving a POWERFUL speech in English and then Spanish. She is amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:01:01am

re: #547 Anymouse

Pretty much everyone here is already registered to vote. (Nebraska has one of the highest voter turnouts in the nation thanks to mail voting.) That said, this area is overwhelmingly Republican, so the task at hand is to educate people here on what our party stands for. Tough, since the media here pretty much ignores us.

I still have my letter to the editor pen handy though.

Well, what you can do as a local Democratically elected official I think is things like that but also lead by example. You can be their Village Trustee who happens to be a Democrat rather than the Democrat who happens be the Village Trustee. I think I saw earlier you mentioned that you helped a widow out. It’s that kind of stuff. Showing that Democrats care about people and that’s honestly what separates the two parties IMO is how we might get some process. I mean I don’t expect your town to go Democratic overnight but maybe we can get some increases.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:01:21am

re: #547 Anymouse

Pretty much everyone here is already registered to vote. (Nebraska has one of the highest voter turnouts in the nation thanks to mail voting.) That said, this area is overwhelmingly Republican, so the task at hand is to educate people here on what our party stands for. Tough, since the media here pretty much ignores us.

I still have my letter to the editor pen handy though.

I wrote on this earlier, but when you live out in the countryside, it is easy to feel and see yourself as a Jeffersonian gentle(wo)man farmer, self-sufficient and completely free to enter into contracts and agreements that benefit you and your family.

It is easy to believe that you need no government, especially a federal one, impinging on your freedom to make decisions.

And we are sold on the notion that “personal freedom” means the right to negotiate (as individuals or families with limited assets and incomes) with multi-million-dollar national (or even international) corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:01:53am

re: #550 Anymouse

I dunno, I haven’t noticed it. I guess they already got to me.

The perfect victim…you did not even feel it when they Castrolated you.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:02:41am

re: #425 Ace Rothstein

FFS, MSNBC, can you please cut away from this farce at the National Cathedral?

Face it. MSNBC is no longer the MSNBC it was a year or so ago. Comcast bought it and bought in to the FOX model, only a bit lighter in that they want to act like they are equal. But equal means what brings in the money.

I’m in the process of weaning myself from any of its general news coverage. I still watch a little Rachel and some Lawrence and Chris Hayes. Can’t handle Chuck “Clueless” Todd at all on MSNBC. I may catch a little Meat The Chuck due to guest, but ignore Chuck and his stupid both sides panels.

There is still a need to see what the New Nazi Party has to “say” about their positions.

Looks like a great time for the internet to make a big jump into the news business. I think they could put a big hurt to TV news. There is a huge opening. And sites like this and some others are going to be needed like never before.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:03:07am

re: #549 Timothy Watson

Hard to say, the primary isn’t until June, I wonder if Trump might flame out by then. Gillespie definitely has the advantage in money over Stewart, but it’s always hard predicting turnout for a primary.

Yeah it is. The primary really throws things into a wrench. If it were convention, I’d say Stewart. I am still undecided who I’m going to vote for between Periello and Norham on the Democratic side. I really like Tom’s passion though I wish he had announced he was running earlier but I am glad that we may get some discussion too. I have so much respect for Periello for voting for ACA as a congressman and then not running away from it. He did lose re-election in 2010 but he didn’t do it like a coward either.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:03:10am

re: #547 Anymouse

Pretty much everyone here is already registered to vote. (Nebraska has one of the highest voter turnouts in the nation thanks to mail voting.) That said, this area is overwhelmingly Republican, so the task at hand is to educate people here on what our party stands for. Tough, since the media here pretty much ignores us.

I still have my letter to the editor pen handy though.

I keep remembering how pissed off I was with the after-election protesters who didn’t bother to vote. “Yeah guys, we could have used that energy a couple months ago,” was my thought.

But I know a lot of people out there protesting today did vote and contribute to the campaign. I saw on Facebook two of the organizers from the Clinton campaign who I worked with are out protesting.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:03:43am

re: #551 BeachDem

Adorable little girl now giving a POWERFUL speech in English and then Spanish. She is amazing.

That could be my niece down the road. 2 years old and counting to ten in both languages. Her aunts are there.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:03:53am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

Well, what you can do as a local Democratically elected official I think is things like that but also lead by example. You can be their Village Trustee who happens to be a Democrat rather than the Democrat who happens be the Village Trustee. I think I saw earlier you mentioned that you helped a widow out. It’s that kind of stuff. Showing that Democrats care about people and that’s honestly what separates the two parties IMO is how we might get some process. I mean I don’t expect your town to go Democratic overnight but maybe we can get some increases.

Yup, flipping this district or even becoming competitive here is a long haul, not a weekend jaunt. The trick is to get younger people than me to think about these things - at fifty-six I doubt I will see Nebraska turn blue (but you never know).

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:04:39am

Dangerous and irresponsible. Just like all the rest of Trumpism.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:05:05am

re: #541 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Manhood has been under assault from feminism for too long! This must stop!!!

As a man, I’m personally more threatened by manhood and the aggressive, macho, toxic myth of masculinity than I am by feminism. Mostly since the former two insist that I am less of a person or human being because I’m not an ‘alpha male’.

EDIT: And I’d normally discount the balls-ass stupid attempt to apply “alpha male” to human society, except for the fact that we have a cultural system that rewards those who bluster and label themselves “alpha males” by letting them fail upwards just on the label alone, despite the only thing ‘alpha male” about them is their sheer blinding hatred toward women and non-“alphas”.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:06:37am

Retweeted by longtime Chicago media critic Robert Feder:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:06:59am

re: #560 Anymouse

Yup, flipping this district or even becoming competitive here is a long haul, not a weekend jaunt. The trick is to get younger people than me to think about these things - at fifty-six I doubt I will see Nebraska turn blue (but you never know).

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I never thought Virginia would go blue three times in a row. It’s a process. You’re not going to start by voting a Dem for President perhaps but something like a Dem governor or Senator, (I’m aware Nebraska has elected those in the recent past FWIW). That’s why I think the initial focus ought to be local. I was looking over the emails our office got from various local elected officials and one of them was a lady who is now the state delegate for where I grew up. During my childhood that was a Republican held seat.

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Lidane  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:07:13am

Local women bringing the fire. Love this sign:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:08:21am

re: #562 Citizen K

As a man, I’m personally more threatened by manhood and the aggressive, macho, toxic myth of masculinity than I am by feminism. Mostly since the former two insist that I am less of a person or human being because I’m not an ‘alpha male’.

Anyone who actually believes that alpha-male stuff is a clown. My dad has a guy he’s sort of friends with that believes it and my Dad just finds it funny as hell. The guy got really pissy when my Dad told him that his daughter could be president and more than just a wife and mother.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:09:15am

re: #561 jaunte

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Dangerous and irresponsible. Just like all the rest of Trumpism.

Spoils system on steroids and in a more global era.

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I cannot.  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:11:00am

re: #566 HappyWarrior

An “alpha” type isn’t threatened by women in powerful positions, an “alpha” type isn’t threatened by guys calling him a “beta” or a “cuck”.

I’m more “alpha” than the entire DeploraBall put together.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:11:01am
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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:11:56am

re: #566 HappyWarrior

Anyone who actually believes that alpha-male stuff is a clown. My dad has a guy he’s sort of friends with that believes it and my Dad just finds it funny as hell. The guy got really pissy when my Dad told him that his daughter could be president and more than just a wife and mother.

Unfortunately, like I said above, we have a cultural system that rewards the assholes that call themselves “alpha males” and enable them to constantly fail upward despite being natural failures at being actual “alphas” in the way zoologists would bother with the term.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:12:18am

Anyhow before I head to lunch, let me explain the primary and convention thingy here in VA. A primary is like what you’re all used to and it’s open to everyone. Conventions are definitely more exclusive and favor the party activists. The GOP often nominates by them here in VA. I can’t think of the last time if ever the Dems have had a convention for nominating candidates here.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:13:05am

re: #568 I cannot.

An “alpha” type isn’t threatened by women in powerful positions, an “alpha” type isn’t threatened by guys calling him a “beta” or a “cuck”.

I’m more “alpha” than the entire DeploraBall put together.

An alpha isn’t afraid to admit a woman is his equal, that rape is wrong, or that sexism is stupid.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:13:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:13:33am

re: #570 Citizen K

Unfortunately, like I said above, we have a cultural system that rewards the assholes that call themselves “alpha males” and enable them to constantly fail upward despite being natural failures at being actual “alphas” in the way zoologists would bother with the term.

Word.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:13:35am

re: #562 Citizen K

As a man, I’m personally more threatened by manhood and the aggressive, macho, toxic myth of masculinity than I am by feminism. Mostly since the former two insist that I am less of a person or human being because I’m not an ‘alpha male’.

Why should we not model our society on primate behavior? We have already seen the immense political value of poo-flinging!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:13:44am

re: #523 HappyWarrior

These people need to register and vote in all elections. Our resurrection will have to begin on the local levels. If I get time this summer and fall, I may volunteer on the governor election here in VA.

November 8th seems to have shattered voter apathy. If this is what causes people to reject the fallacy of the MFB myth (which no doubt arrests voter involvement) then we are all the better for it.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:14:13am

re: #564 HappyWarrior

I never thought Virginia would go blue three times in a row. It’s a process. You’re not going to start by voting a Dem for President perhaps but something like a Dem governor or Senator, (I’m aware Nebraska has elected those in the recent past FWIW). That’s why I think the initial focus ought to be local. I was looking over the emails our office got from various local elected officials and one of them was a lady who is now the state delegate for where I grew up. During my childhood that was a Republican held seat.

We also have to get people to run for office (as in the ballot I turned in was mostly blank because most offices were unopposed Republicans, with a few Libertarians scattered around the ballot - the Libertarian Party is better organised than the Democratic Party here).

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:14:45am

From the BBC:

Trump’s @POTUS Twitter account used Obama crowd image
bbc.co.uk

What’s interesting, and relevant to this thread, is the following text in this story:

Mr Trump’s @POTUS account has gained millions of followers since its launch, as all 13.6m followers of Barack Obama’s account - now archived at @POTUS44 - are in the process of being ported over to the new Trump account.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:16:19am

re: #570 Citizen K

Unfortunately, like I said above, we have a cultural system that rewards the assholes that call themselves “alpha males” and enable them to constantly fail upward despite being natural failures at being actual “alphas” in the way zoologists would bother with the term.

So work to shatter the system. It needs to be relentless, incremental and proactive.

Rep. John Lewis has a bit of experience with that, no? 🙂

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:16:49am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:20:08am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:21:09am

re: #557 HappyWarrior

Yeah it is. The primary really throws things into a wrench. If it were convention, I’d say Stewart. I am still undecided who I’m going to vote for between Periello and Norham on the Democratic side. I really like Tom’s passion though I wish he had announced he was running earlier but I am glad that we may get some discussion too. I have so much respect for Periello for voting for ACA as a congressman and then not running away from it. He did lose re-election in 2010 but he didn’t do it like a coward either.

I don’t dislike Periello, but he’s an one-term Congressman running for Governor, versus Northam who is a current Lieutenant Governor who was also a State Senator for six years.

Govenors in Virginia aren’t all powerful (something T-Mac took awhile to discover) and you do have to work with the General Assembly if you want to get anything accomplished and Northam has a lot more experience with that.

I do have problem with Northam but they’re more style problems than anything else. I was complaining on Facebook the other day about how he keeps showing up to events in his lab coat. Okay, we get you’re a doctor but that comes off as incredibly pretentious to me.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:21:20am

I wonder if my mother is there somewhere?

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:22:53am

Great sign—“We need to talk about the elephant in the womb.”

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:23:46am

re: #560 Anymouse

Yup, flipping this district or even becoming competitive here is a long haul, not a weekend jaunt. The trick is to get younger people than me to think about these things - at fifty-six I doubt I will see Nebraska turn blue (but you never know).

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If President Pee Pee fucks up the whole country the way I expect him to then in 2020 he will surpass Hoover’s loss in 1932.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:25:01am

Too big to ignore, and the media ignores it at their own peril.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:25:12am

re: #492 Anymouse

My whole town has been really quiet about Donald Trump since it seems to have dawned on a lot of people they might have been scammed. No one has mentioned a word to me about him. Nada.

Seems like a decent barometer. Funny thing…he hasn’t even gotten started and they are acting wobbly. That shows they were all that sure when they voted. I guess you can call whats coming a fast lesson.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:26:45am

re: #585 Joe Bacon

If President Pee Pee fucks up the whole country the way I expect him to then in 2020 he will surpass Hoover’s loss in 1932.

I wish I were wrong, but I fully expect him to have a few tricks up his sleeve - economic sleight-of-hand ones that will make him very popular with a lot of people, if only for at least a few years…the cracks might start to show before 2020, but not enough to cost him re-election, especially if the press is even half as fawning over him as it was in 2016…

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No Depression  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:27:57am

I think we might be seeing the birth of a movement here, people. And as a 20-something guy, I’m glad it’s being spearheaded by women. They get shit done.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:28:10am

re: #587 ObserverArt

Seems like a decent barometer. Funny thing…he hasn’t even gotten started and they are acting wobbly. That shows they were all that sure when they voted. I guess you can call whats coming a fast lesson.

The problem is, will it make them actually reflect enough to adjust their voting habits in the future, or will they revert to the norm and keep deciding that no matter how provably destructive and dangerous the GOP is, the Dems by definition must be even worse because, well, they’re Democrats?

That seems to have been one of the stories of this election, where no matter how abominable the GOP offerings could get, you still had Good Germans fall back into line because heaven forbid you ever give a Dem a vote or praise.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:28:20am

re: #587 ObserverArt

Seems like a decent barometer. Funny thing…he hasn’t even gotten started and they are acting wobbly. That shows they were all that sure when they voted. I guess you can call whats coming a fast lesson.

It will come at varying stages. Right now, most of the Branch Trumpidians I know are still in gloat mood, but I really don’t want to interact with them that much…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:28:29am

FB full of “TRUMP WON. GET OVER IT LIBTARDS!!!!! STOP PROTESTING!”, and “We didn’t protest Obama! We wanted him to succeed!”. It’s like they have no memory… or more likely, want to erase their actions from history all together.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:28:56am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:29:09am

re: #498 calochortus

Time to go do something constructive.
Catch you all later.

What? This is constructive. Saving your mental health is a good thing.

I understand…I have to mix some fast set wall patch compound. I hate working on patching walls, drywall, etc. But they aren’t going to finish themselves.

I’m here for a bit for my mental health though…

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:29:27am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:31:28am

re: #595 jaunte

That’s going on my wall with a statement from me: “Go ahead. Call her a LIBTARD.”

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No Depression  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:31:47am

re: #592 GlutenFreeJesus

FB full of “TRUMP WON. GET OVER IT LIBTARDS!!!!! STOP PROTESTING!”, and “We didn’t protest Obama! We wanted him to succeed!”. It’s like they have no memory… or more likely, want to erase their actions from history all together.

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Gee, I wonder why they keep getting called racist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:32:07am

re: #596 GlutenFreeJesus

That’s going on my wall with a statement from me: “Go ahead. Call her a LIBTARD.”

and there will those who do

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:32:28am

re: #598 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No doubt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:32:54am

re: #592 GlutenFreeJesus

FB full of “TRUMP WON. GET OVER IT LIBTARDS!!!!! STOP PROTESTING!”, and “We didn’t protest Obama! We wanted him to succeed!”. It’s like they have no memory… or more likely, want to erase their actions from history all together.

My standard answer is that we owe DT all the respect, deference and cooperation that the GOP showed to Obama.

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stpaulbear  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:33:55am

re: #586 Myron Falwell

Too big to ignore, and the media ignores it at their own peril.

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WaPo is running a live feed and doing a decent job of blogging the crowd.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:34:58am

re: #588 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I were wrong, but I fully expect him to have a few tricks up his sleeve - economic sleight-of-hand ones that will make him very popular with a lot of people, if only for at least a few years…the cracks might start to show before 2020, but not enough to cost him an election, especially if the press is even half as fawning over him as it was in 2016…

The fatal flaw in that theory is … Trump himself. This would imply that he either moderates his exceptionally acidic and divisive tone, or turns heel against the GOP.

As long as he employs Steve Bannon, that ain’t happening. He’s pretty much locked in with the wingnut base and GOP allies Axis, and won’t really be able to prop up his approval numbers until polling firms fix the polls deliberately.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:35:14am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:35:32am

re: #509 Joe Bacon

So far I’ve had to unfollow POTUS 5 Times and when I check back, Twitter makes me a follower again…

YOU WILL NOT UNFOLLOW TRUMP!!!

This is an important message from the New America First National Party. Failure to heed could lead to penalties.

(You know, it sounds like Trump is making this a thing on Twitter. Sure hope not, but damn…)

I wonder how long until everyone has to have a Twitter account.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:36:32am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

DWS has every right to be there. I think she could have done better as DNC chair but she’s not the terrible person many people say she is.

Tell that to a Bernie supporter. Good luck. It is now carved in stone.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:36:54am

“But libs live in a bubble!”

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:37:06am

re: #604 ObserverArt

If you never open twitter, it wouldn’t matter.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:38:27am

re: #587 ObserverArt

Seems like a decent barometer. Funny thing…he hasn’t even gotten started and they are acting wobbly. That shows they were all that sure when they voted. I guess you can call whats coming a fast lesson.

Unfortunately that fast lesson affects all of us, and a whole lot of people around the world that have no say in our election. The goal now seems to be limit damage and make sure what damage occurs is ascribed to the correct politicians.

re: #592 GlutenFreeJesus

FB full of “TRUMP WON. GET OVER IT LIBTARDS!!!!! STOP PROTESTING!”, and “We didn’t protest Obama! We wanted him to succeed!”. It’s like they have no memory… or more likely, want to erase their actions from history all together.

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Gaaa… . that should be behind a privacy bar (or maybe not, since conservatives come here too … it serves as a reminder).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:39:09am

re: #602 Myron Falwell

The fatal flaw in that theory is … Trump himself. This would imply that he either moderates his exceptionally acidic and divisive tone, or turns heel against the GOP.

As long as he employs Steve Bannon, that ain’t happening. He’s pretty much locked in with the wingnut base and GOP allies Axis, and won’t really be able to prop up his approval numbers until polling firms fix the polls deliberately.

Whatever else you can say about him, he knows how to manipulate media and people, he knows how to create the image of wealth and success where there is none.

If he and his surrogates can pull off two or three years of smoke and mirrors with the US economy, he will make a lot of friends, people who are more than willing to delude themselves to believing him, and that could keep him in office past 2020.

We would also have to assume that the Democrats are going to get their act together and field a viable candidate with a solid platform by 2020. And win by more than 3 million votes: votes in the “right” places.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:39:25am

Got back a little while ago from the Greensboro march. I would say over 2,000 people. It was amazing. Energy in the air.

Pictures later…

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:40:20am

re: #604 ObserverArt

YOU WILL NOT UNFOLLOW TRUMP!!!

This is an important message from the New America First National Party. Failure to heed could lead to penalties.

(You know, it sounds like Trump is making this a thing on Twitter. Sure hope not, but damn…)

I wonder how long until everyone has to have a Twitter account.

I wonder how long before everyone leaves Twitter.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:40:42am

Los Angeles is out in force to stand up to President Pee Pee!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:41:21am

re: #606 jaunte

Fox News (State Television): No tweets or videos of Millions marching against Trump Presidency. This is like 1984 Kremlin.

I recall watching East German TV coverage of the Tianamen Square riots. They never showed any banners or posters indicating what the people were protesting, and when we saw crowds chanting, it was voiced over by a commentator explaining that these people were dangerous counter-revolutionaries.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:42:43am

re: #509 Joe Bacon

So far I’ve had to unfollow POTUS 5 Times and when I check back, Twitter makes me a follower again…

I unfollowed last night and so far, so good. I don’t see the trump team being any more competent in software that they have been anywhere else.

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No Depression  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:44:23am

re: #611 Anymouse

I wonder how long before everyone leaves Twitter.

But it that happens, Twitter will go out of business! How ever will the Malignant Cornchip deliver his annual State of the Union tweetstorm?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:45:21am

re: #604 ObserverArt

I wonder how long until everyone has to have a Twitter account.

All you need at this juncture is an email address.

re: #611 Anymouse

I wonder how long before everyone leaves Twitter.

People left MySpace en masse when they discovered Facebook to be a better platform. Whenever someone creates an improved version of Twitter, the exodus will begin.

(I am NOT talking about Gab, the Nazi Twitter that only exists as a ‘pleasuring yourself’ tool for neo-Nazis.)

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wrenchwench  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:46:15am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:48:31am
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:48:58am

I don’t know where this picture is from, but it has gone all over twitter…

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BlueGrl21  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:50:00am

Houston, Texas Women’s March, checking in.

Per our police chief, we are officially the largest crowd ever gathered in the City of Houston. By far.

Thought you’d like to know. :)

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No Depression  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:50:14am

re: #618 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Good, let the whine flow through you.

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:50:45am

Limmy on Twitter: “Holden Caulfield”.

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Anymouse  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:52:43am

None of the stations in Scottsbluff or Cheyenne have anything at all about the Women’s March in Washington (All Trump, All the Time,) except for FOX 42 in Scottsbluff.
fox42kptm.com (with video link)

They still had to stick a dig in with the headline versus the link: Women Descend on DC to Push Back Against New President

The link says Women Descend on DC a Day after Anarchist Create Chaos

The local (well too far for me) FOX station seems to play the article straight (drawing from AP as a source)

The marches in Lincoln and Omaha have not started yet. No mention of them on Omaha or Lincoln stations.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 21, 2017 • 10:54:02am

re: #609 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It worked with less than half of the voting population and sheer luck in the Electoral College. He might be able to retain most of his base, but won’t be able to build upon it.

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nines09  Jan 21, 2017 • 11:03:05am

“Sign right there.Where it says Tweet. Yes. Fine.”

Pence looks like the soulless vampire he is.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2017 • 11:08:31am

re: #590 Citizen K

The problem is, will it make them actually reflect enough to adjust their voting habits in the future, or will they revert to the norm and keep deciding that no matter how provably destructive and dangerous the GOP is, the Dems by definition must be even worse because, well, they’re Democrats?

That seems to have been one of the stories of this election, where no matter how abominable the GOP offerings could get, you still had Good Germans fall back into line because heaven forbid you ever give a Dem a vote or praise.

You are correct. It comes to degrees. I am going on those that are on the fence, those that voted for Trump because of their hatred of typical establishment politicians. Those that held their noses.

You can’t change the wingnut. But the wingnut is not the majority.

Trump will most likely prove that the big business man promising jobs and new wealth for the common man was a lie and maybe put paid to that BS about needing someone outside the government. those 107,000 people in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania voted for the hope for jobs…they caused Hillary to lose.

So, next election it will be back looking for smart people that understand government. And the fence sitters need to be sold…now.

Today’s demonstrations are a good start. It might even get some wingnut women to reconsider. If they can get away from the alpha-males!

Okay…plaster time! Later…


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