Revealing Video of Donald and Melania Trump at Inauguration: Was It Reversed?

No, it wasn’t, and here’s the proof
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This video clip has been circulating on Twitter, showing a rather shocking moment between Donald Trump and his wife Melania, at his inauguration ceremony. Trump is turned to face her, and she’s beaming at him — but as he turns away to face front again, Melania’s face collapses into what can only be called a miserable frown as soon as he’s not looking at her.

Almost immediately, people started claiming this video was “reversed.” I don’t know where this claim originated, but I suspect it came from Trump followers.

However, there’s another clip available of this exact moment in Franklin Graham’s invocation; it’s from a different angle and doesn’t show Melania, but Trump’s movements match Graham’s words exactly the same as in the shorter clip above. Here it is, queued up to start at the same moment:

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Notice: he begins turning around as Graham says, “God will bless…”

Conclusion: this clip was obviously not reversed. It’s legitimate. As for what it shows, you can draw your own conclusions.

UPDATE at 1/23/17 2:01:21 pm by Charles Johnson

Jezebel found the exact clip to prove it beyond all doubt. Ironically enough, it came from Russia Today:

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267 comments

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2017 • 1:55:06pm

Reposted from downstairs:
re: #221 mr.fusion

Looks like Rage Furby’s WeSearchr twitter account was suspended

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lawhawk  Jan 23, 2017 • 1:55:46pm

Beats me what the heck is going on in that clip, or what Melania is thinking about any/all of this. And that frankly is quite besides the point. That’s a sideshow to what this cabal of cronies is doing.

They’re busy preparing to gut the central functions of the US government - the safety net - the General Welfare of our nation is at stake.

Priorities.

That’s the priority. Stopping that. I don’t need a Zapruder film exposition on what really happened between Melania and Donny on the stage there. We see repeatedly that he doesn’t treat her well - walking ahead, not waiting for her, not recognizing her and is full of himself at all times. These are all things we’ve known all along.

The GOP continues rubber stamping Trump’s picks, and we’re starting to get into the truly questionable ones - like Tillerson for State, and Pompeo and all the rest. Oh wait - that is all of his nominees other than Mattis (who was questionable because he should never have been granted the waiver in first place, but I digress).

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Tigger2  Jan 23, 2017 • 1:56:00pm

LMAO The video is awesome.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 1:57:45pm
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b.d.  Jan 23, 2017 • 1:57:49pm

Although if you watch the entire Trump inauguration in reverse it does have a happier ending…

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

Arnold Roth observing East Berlin in the ‘50’s.
allthingsger.blogspot.com

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:00:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:01:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:02:07pm
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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:03:29pm

re: #3 Tigger2

Wall Of Meatheads. One more hard guy on a scooter with a tiny pee pee. “Helps! The women outnumber us! Please send support!”

I’ll bet that Club House is in moms garage. “CHRIS!!?? TURN THE FUCKING MUSIC DOWN!! NOW!!!!!!!!!”
“Ok….mom…sorry. geeezzz guys……keep it down….”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:03:53pm
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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:04:15pm

re: #3 Tigger2

LMAO

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I was wondering what happened to those millions of bikers.

Big tough guys, defending the porta-potties…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:04:58pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

On DT’s first full Monday in office, too. What happened to Freedom?

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:05:44pm

re: #3 Tigger2

LMAO

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Wall of Meatsters ordered to southern border.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:09:11pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Drump: Make sure your hair doesn’t get messed up
Melanoma: Yes, master

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:09:51pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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That one removes all doubt. That woman is terrified of him.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:10:29pm

re: #17 makeitstop

He’s holding a hostage.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:11:01pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

That is disturbing. I wonder what the professional who see abuse and fear and manipulation as thier everyday job think. Scary. Not happy. Very unhappy.

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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:12:05pm

Not that I give a rat’s ass one way or the other, but maybe he was looking at Ivanka, not Melania—Ivanka does her little head tilt and smile when he turns around.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:12:48pm
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:13:53pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

He’s not looking at or talking to Melania. He’s all about his alt-wife, Ivanka.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:14:14pm

I am just wondering what the fuck is going to go down when the first crisis or whatever happens. I am hearing Trumps team have been keeping him away from news because he is obsessed with watching TV…EVEN AFTER THE INAUGURATION. They are afraid he is going to do and/or say something stupid and inflammatory and make things worse.

The whole “Don’t wake drunk daddy” thing never fucking works for long.

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unproven innocence  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:17:14pm

re: #17 makeitstop

That one removes all doubt. That woman is terrified of him.

When he began his campaign, when he had the Mrs make a public endorsement speech, her nervousness seemed to me more than ordinary.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:17:51pm

re: #18 jaunte

He’s holding a hostage.

The only hostage is her lifestyle.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:18:17pm

re: #13 makeitstop

I was wondering what happened to those millions of bikers.

Big tough guys, defending the porta-potties…

He’s likely never been close to a woman before which is why Saturday’s Woman’s March freaked him the fuck out.

That was an epic video.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:19:28pm

I don’t feel sorry for Melanoma….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:22:23pm

The American Library Association announced its annual children’s book awards Monday. While the Caldecott and Newbery medals are the best known of these honors, this year, one of the lesser-known awards might attract the most attention.

That’s because the Coretta Scott King Award for best African-American author went to Rep. John Lewis and his collaborator Andrew Aydin for March: Book Three, the third installment in the civil rights leader’s graphic memoir.

Lewis’ book also won three other awards from the library association — the first time an author has won that many awards in a single year. In November, March won a National Book Award.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:23:00pm

re: #17 makeitstop

That one removes all doubt. That woman is terrified of him.

He was googly-eyeing Ivanka.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:23:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:24:05pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Awesome. I have a Roberto Clemente graphic novel, need to get this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:24:43pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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Wanting the presidency to bully a private company. Yep not fascist.//

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:25:07pm

here for hear is just alt spelling

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:26:05pm

re: #27 Dr. Matt

I don’t feel sorry for Melanoma….

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Yeah, that’s pretty damning.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:26:45pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

He was googly-eyeing Ivanka.

Yeah, just noticed the eyebrow thing Ivanka did.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:26:55pm

re: #5 electrotek

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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:27:30pm

Interesting:

Sarah Kendzior Retweeted
🗽 ‏@leahmcelrath 15m15 minutes ago
🗽 Retweeted Andrew Graham
Whoa: @sarahkendzior had the same thing happen.
Anyone else out there notice this?
🗽 added,
Andrew Graham @andrew_graham
Just saw that @Facebook had, for all my recent posts that were critical of the new administration, changed #privacy settings to “Only me.”
14 replies 98 retweets 60 likes

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:27:54pm

haha the Love Parade when it was held in Berlin held a consistently higher turnout every year than Trump’s inauguration.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:30:13pm

re: #27 Dr. Matt

I don’t feel sorry for Melanoma….

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Welp, that took care of any pity I might have been feeling for her.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:30:23pm

Putting this one in a private tag as it has the kid. I think he’s just distracted with everything going on around him.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:30:43pm
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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:31:09pm

re: #27 Dr. Matt

I don’t feel sorry for Melanoma….

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Nor do I.

I’m very strong. People, they don’t really know me, people think and talk about me, like, “Oh Melania, oh poor Melania.” Don’t feel sorry for me. Don’t feel sorry for me. I can handle everything. And for people talking like that, I see in the press a lot, almost like celebrities or people they think they’re celebrities, I would suggest to them to look at themselves in the mirror and to look at their actions and to take care of their own families…

I believe my husband. I believe my husband. This was all organized from the opposition. And with the details that they go, did they ever check the background of these women?

from her Anderson Cooper interview.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:31:17pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

Welp, that took care of any pity I might have been feeling for her.

Seriously, fuck her. She reaps what she sowed.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:32:07pm

Seriously, Indian immigrants speak English even with their strong accents better than Melania.

Holy shit, she can’t even form sentences correctly for fuck’s sake and often repeats herself.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:33:46pm

So I missed Sean Spicer’s first official WHDB with the media. I did see the video of him whining about Trump being demoralized by all the negativity.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:34:44pm

Franklin Graham is such a disgusting whore, esp. for pretending that he’s not. *spit*

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:35:02pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

He was googly-eyeing Ivanka.

Exactly. And she was googly-eying back. Melania might as well have not been there at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:35:06pm

re: #41 nines09

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Haha. What’s the matter Dickie?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:35:23pm

More fun from FB

Alt facts
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:35:31pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Franklin Graham is such a disgusting whore, esp. for pretending that he’s not. *spit*

He’s one of the worst.

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:37:11pm

re: #17 makeitstop

That one removes all doubt. That woman is terrified of him.

You know, there’s another possibility. She was born Roman Catholic, but her dad apparently was a hard Marxist-Leninist and refused to allow her to be baptized or confirmed when she was young. Her Mother and she were apparently quite devout.

Take it from an old retired mackerel snapper, you listen to a prayer with your eyes and head down, to show respect. It’s what you’re taught as a kid. That’s just how it’s done.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:37:45pm

re: #44 electrotek

Seriously, Indian immigrants speak English even with their strong accents better than Melania.

Holy shit, she can’t even form sentences correctly for fuck’s sake and often repeats herself.

Well more Indians probably have English as their first language than Slovenes. I don’t like Melania but India was part of the British Empire for a long time.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:38:45pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Well more Indians probably have English as their first language than Slovenes. I don’t like Melania but India was part of the British Empire for a long time.

She’s part of the elite that allows herself to travel as part of her modeling career, she has no excuse IMO.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:38:52pm

re: #44 electrotek

Seriously, Indian immigrants speak English even with their strong accents better than Melania.

Holy shit, she can’t even form sentences correctly for fuck’s sake and often repeats herself.

Well, she likely learned English from her idiot husband who’s never met a sentence he won’t repeat thricely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:40:37pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

Welp, that took care of any pity I might have been feeling for her.

Ditto that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:42:17pm

re: #53 electrotek

She’s part of the elite that allows herself to travel as part of her modeling career, she has no excuse IMO.

Guess so. Her accent is the least of her problems. Consigning on her asshole husband’s birtherism otoh.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:42:31pm

re: #41 nines09

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What a Drama Llama ◔_◔
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:43:41pm

re: #41 nines09

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:44:08pm

re: #54 MsJ

Well, she likely learned English from her idiot husband who’s never met a sentence he won’t repeat thricely.

And I guess because my own great grandma emigrated from the same country, I have some empathy. Slovene to English isn’t easy. She was being paid to model not talk too.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:44:25pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:44:46pm

re: #42 BeachDem

I believe my husband. I believe my husband.

So did Marla Maples.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:44:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:45:06pm

re: #58 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

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Snowflake Spencer seeks a safe space. Yay tongue twisters!

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:46:08pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

And I guess because my own great grandma emigrated from the same country, I have some empathy. Slovene to English isn’t easy. She was being paid to model not talk too.

I have no sympathy at all. She’s as bad as him in thought and actions. Her “boys will be boys” stuff cut any ties to the concept of sympathy from me regarding her.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:47:40pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

And I guess because my own great grandma emigrated from the same country, I have some empathy. Slovene to English isn’t easy. She was being paid to model not talk too.

Dude I was in ESL courses from Kindergarten to 4th grade. If there’s someone who would be the most empathetic to someone on struggling English proficiency, it is me.

I’ve been in the U.S. since I was 10 months old, so being in ESL for the entire elementary school period in my case wasn’t fun. At all.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:48:22pm

Glad we’re all focused on the important issues here today.

Any word yet on the executive orders? Any opinions on these?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:48:23pm

re: #64 MsJ

I have no sympathy at all. She’s as bad as him in thought and actions. Her “boys will be boys” stuff cut any ties to the concept of sympathy from me regarding her.

Empathy not sympathy. Just saying I had family leave Europe around the same age who had the same native language as her and they spent the rest of their lives with thick accents. I have no sympathy for her because of that and what Matt linked to.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:49:24pm

re: #65 electrotek

Dude I was in ESL courses from Kindergarten to 4th grade. If there’s someone who would be the most empathetic to someone on struggling English proficiency, it is me.

I’ve been in the U.S. since I was 10 months old, so being in ESL for the entire elementary school period in my case wasn’t fun. At all.

Fair enough. Point understood.

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[deleted]  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:49:35pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:50:54pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:52:02pm

re: #69 nunya bidness

…err, welcome hatchling.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:52:26pm

re: #3 Tigger2

LMAO The video is awesome.

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I can’t help but wonder if there’s a connection between the pro-Cheeto bikers and the pro-Putin Night Wolves… Seems like a bit much to be considered pure coincidence.

If you’re a corrupt politician it would be very convenient to have underworld connections who could launder money & do other dirty deeds for you. I’m just sayin’…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:53:26pm

/sigh

Downdinging hatchling on a roll, just a heads up.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:53:32pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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Lydia isn’t also your wife, is she?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:53:32pm

re: #72 CuriousLurker

I can’t help but wonder if there’s a connection between the pro-Cheeto bikers and the pro-Putin Night Wolves… Seems like a bit much to be considered pure coincidence.

If you’re a corrupt politician it would be very convenient to have underworld connections who could launder money & do other dirty deeds for you. I’m just sayin’…

I had the same thought when I read about the bikers.

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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:53:47pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

And I guess because my own great grandma emigrated from the same country, I have some empathy. Slovene to English isn’t easy. She was being paid to model not talk too.

They tout that she’s fluent in 5 languages (sometimes they say 6) in every puff piece they write about her, so I guess expectations are high.//

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:55:06pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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“…wait ‘til My Daddy gets home! Just you wait!”

Christ. Do all the RWNJs basically have their emotional development arrested at toddler-level? Or is it just this utter shitsmear?

Three outcomes here:

1. Trump’s admin rolls their eyes and promises to “look into it.” The Rage Furby cackles with delusional glee. Nothing happens. He asks a couple of times, but they have other priorities and fob him off. Eventually, he wanders away.

2. Trump’s admin sighs, drafts an email asking about this, sends it to Twitter. Nothing happens. CCJ asks plaintively after a week. Is told that “they are still looking into it.” Nothing really comes of it, and CCJ eventually decides that Dark Forces around the world are plotting against him, and he is a tragic HERO! Half a bottle of vodka later, he has a screenplay that he gives to Bannon to give to his friends to be made into a blockbuster movie. He gets a “development deal” that involves no actual money, but starts imagining himself as a real-life Hollywood Mogul!

3. A Trumpkin actually picks up a phone and gets a Designated Flak-Catchers at Twitter to pick up. Perhaps a person tasked with dealing with the constant flood of complaints and anger flowing from Trump and his dimwits. The Twitter guy sighs, decides that it is easier to just reinstate the account than to waste time on this. CCJ exults in triumph!

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:55:16pm

re: #11 nines09

nunya bidness. Did I say something wrong?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:55:39pm

What’s that smell?

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:55:46pm

re: #69 nunya bidness

The guy speaking starts talking about god. The mood gets serious. Everyone stops smiling and listens.

Sorry folks, life isn’t like your movies and TV shows, we don’t all wear our emotions on our face at every moment.

“You can draw your own conclusions, but make sure it’s the most negative possible about Trump!”

We got a live one here…

Um, hate to point out that the homily was already going on, and most people don’t have that kind of ‘death of a smile’ reaction in any social situation.

If you see that, something is up.

But do tell us more, by all means.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:55:51pm

re: #78 nines09

nunya bidness. Did I say something wrong?

They’re downdinging everyone.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:56:22pm

re: #69 nunya bidness

The guy speaking starts talking about god. The mood gets serious. Everyone stops smiling and listens.

Even the Golden Calf himself.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:56:51pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Empty soul….

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:57:09pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

What’s that smell?

Fragrantly foul footwear, foresooth!

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:57:46pm

I’m hurt.

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:58:09pm

re: #51 austin_blue

an old retired mackerel snapper,

First time I heard that phrase was in a Stephen King movie. Still not quite sure what’s behind it (even through I grew up a Cat-licker myself).

Does it have to do with the eating of fish on Fridays?

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:58:09pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Empathy not sympathy. Just saying I had family leave Europe around the same age who had the same native language as her and they spent the rest of their lives with thick accents. I have no sympathy for her because of that and what Matt linked to.

I get what you’re saying but I can’t muster any empathy for her. I’m not referring to her speech patterns, I’m referring to her thought patterns. She’s a horrible person. Perhaps slightly less then he is…perhaps not. No matter, she is not worthy of my empathy, even if I could offer it to her. Which I cannot.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:58:19pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…err, welcome hatchling.

Spidey sense, tingling….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:58:35pm

re: #88 makeitstop

Spidey sense, tingling….

Definitely a live one.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:59:13pm

re: #86 Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)

First time I heard that phrase was in a Stephen King movie. Still not quite sure what’s behind it (even through I grew up a Cat-licker myself).

Does it have to do with the eating of fish on Fridays?

Mackerel snapper” was once a sectarian slur for Roman Catholics, originating in the United States in the 1850s. It referred to the Catholic discipline of Friday abstinence from red meat and poultry, for which fish was substituted

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:59:33pm

Smells like troll shit in here.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 2:59:40pm

Fist my girlfriend breaks up with me next I get a downding. How do I go on?

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scottslemmons  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:00:22pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love “March” so much, and I recommend it to everyone possible. It’s just such an outstanding history of the civil rights movement — the kind of stuff they never tell you in school…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:00:23pm

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:00:42pm

re: #92 I Would Prefer Not To

Posting some cartoons always cheers me up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:00:46pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Oooo, I like that one. Good cat picture.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:00:55pm

re: #76 BeachDem

They tout that she’s fluent in 5 languages (sometimes they say 6) in every puff piece they write about her, so I guess expectations are high.//

I didn’t know that part. Mom’s one grandpa could speak parts of six since he worked with so different ethnic groups in the mines.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:01:22pm

It’s hiding……Here let me try this. “Tiny pee pee”…..Anything happen?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:01:27pm

re: #92 I Would Prefer Not To

Fist my girlfriend breaks up with me next I get a downding. How do I go on?

O_o

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:02:04pm

Very serious kitteh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:02:05pm

re: #87 MsJ

I get what you’re saying but I can’t muster any empathy for her. I’m not referring to her speech patterns, I’m referring to her thought patterns. She’s a horrible person. Perhaps slightly less then he is…perhaps not. No matter, she is not worthy of my empathy, even if I could offer it to her. Which I cannot.

That’s fair enough. I was simply referring to her still having a thick Slovene accent, that’s all.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:02:23pm

If people want to register at LGF to discuss things respectfully, I have no problem with opposing viewpoints. But if they come in and start flinging insults around and down-dinging en masse, I can and will kick their ass to the curb.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:03:21pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

If people want to register at LGF to discuss things respectfully, I have no problem with opposing viewpoints. But if they come in and start flinging insults around and down-dinging en masse, I can and will kick their ass to the curb.

Probably just cut into his income stream. //

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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:03:33pm

Hey, didn’t Rage Furby say that his kid was going to be born on inauguration day? Glad he’s concerned about the important things in life. (obviously taking a page from baby whiplash’s book)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:03:54pm

re: #103 MsJ

Probably just cut into his income stream. //

he wasn’t even trying.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:04:12pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

If people want to register at LGF to discuss things respectfully, I have no problem with opposing viewpoints. But if they come in and start flinging insults around and down-dinging en masse, I can and will kick their ass to the curb.

I’ve been waiting for a Trumper to make a serious case for him but I’m also waiting on Jennifer Lawrence to take me up on drinks and dinner.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:04:30pm

Damn—see? That asshole compelled me to go back and neutralize all his down-dings, even for comments I didn’t necessarily agree with.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:05:14pm

If anyone wants to try to defend Trump’s “sincere religious feeling”, they’re welcome to present evidence, but complaining about him being mocked as a hypocrite isn’t a good start.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:05:26pm

re: #104 BeachDem

Hey, didn’t Rage Furby say that his kid was going to be born on inauguration day? Glad he’s concerned about the important things in life. (obviously taking a page from baby whiplash’s book)

Didn’t know his wife was pregnant. Hopefully he shows more humanity than Benny Shapiro and can actually enjoy that day without being a hateful turd but I have my doubts.

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Moebym  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:05:31pm

re: #104 BeachDem

Hey, didn’t Rage Furby say that his kid was going to be born on inauguration day? Glad he’s concerned about the important things in life. (obviously taking a page from baby whiplash’s book)

He reproduced. Now that’s terrifying.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:06:24pm

re: #107 CuriousLurker

Selfless!

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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:06:32pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

That’s fair enough. I was simply referring to her still having a thick Slovene accent, that’s all.

I don’t think it’s her accent—it’s her really terrible sentence structure and grammar after being in the US for 20 years—but if she’s using her husband as a language guide, I guess that explains some of it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:06:41pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

Just wait until the stock market grasps that Trump is completely insane and that there is no controlling legal authority over him.

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electrotek  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:07:12pm

re: #110 Moebym

He reproduced. Now that’s terrifying.

He’s the living example of why vasectomy is vital.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:07:20pm

re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To

he wasn’t even trying.

Hard to find good help nowadays.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:07:21pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know his wife was pregnant. Hopefully he shows more humanity than Benny Shapiro and can actually enjoy that day without being a hateful turd but I have my doubts.

You jest. Funny, funny man you are!

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:07:28pm

In other news, the bluebirds of happiness are cleaning the last of the berries off the toyon bushes at my house. There is still hope in the world as long as we have the birds.

Also our new mattress was just delivered. I hope we like it when we actually sleep on it. Feels nice now.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:07:51pm

re: #111 nines09

Selfless!

LOLOL

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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:08:00pm

re: #110 Moebym

He reproduced. Now that’s terrifying.

Hopefully he was cucked.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:08:16pm

re: #112 BeachDem

I don’t think it’s her accent—it’s her really terrible sentence structure and grammar after being in the US for 20 years—but if she’s using her husband as a language guide, I guess that explains some of it.

If that’s what electro meant then I apologize for being a pedant.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:08:59pm

re: #18 jaunte

He’s holding a hostage.

He’s holding 320 million hostages. The dumb ones haven’t figured that out yet.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:09:08pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I’ve been waiting for a Trumper to make a serious case for him but I’m also waiting on Jennifer Lawrence to take me up on drinks and dinner.

The good news is that you have a better chance with Jennifer

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:09:16pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know his wife was pregnant. Hopefully he shows more humanity than Benny Shapiro and can actually enjoy that day without being a hateful turd but I have my doubts.

E gad, what an example to have as a parent.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:09:48pm

re: #116 MsJ

You jest. Funny, funny man you are!

I still can’t believe Shapiro used the day of his daughter’s birth to rage at Obama. Fuck that, if I ever have a kid, politics is gonna be the last thing on my mind.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:10:17pm

re: #123 CuriousLurker

E gad, what an example to have as a parent.

The Rage Furby and Baby Whiplash. Yep. Poor kids.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:10:39pm

re: #123 CuriousLurker

E gad, what an example to have as a parent.

Perhaps rage furby is not the father….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:11:10pm

re: #122 I Would Prefer Not To

The good news is that you have a better chance with Jennifer

So you’re saying there’s a chance!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:11:11pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:11:29pm

re: #74 Timothy Watson

Lydia isn’t also your wife, is she?

Nope. I just figure it’s better to have someone keeping an eye on my adopted child while I’m off harvesting snowberries and murdering every Thalmor I come across.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:11:34pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I still can’t believe Shapiro used the day of his daughter’s birth to rage at Obama. Fuck that, if I ever have a kid, politics is gonna be the last thing on my mind.

I’m with you. That’s a special flavor of hate and loathing that is.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:11:59pm

re: #123 CuriousLurker

E gad, what an example to have as a parent.

Him even being a parent is grounds for dropping a dime to Child Protective Services.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:12:09pm

Yes, there are probably more important issues to worry about in the Trump presidency. But stories like this connect with people on a very real level, and we shouldn’t forget that politics isn’t just a dry exercise in policy debates. This touches people’s emotions, very clearly, and that can be a powerful motivator for change.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:13:45pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pup still doesn’t look thrilled.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:14:16pm

re: #130 MsJ

I’m with you. That’s a special flavor of hate and loathing that is.

I have never seen Shapiro happy ever. Closest is when he is belittling people he thinks beneath him but real happiness like a father’s love for his child, nope. Not saying he doesn’t love his kid but spending the day of her birth raging at Obama said a lot.

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Jack Burton  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:15:28pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:15:31pm

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

Nope. I just figure it’s better to have someone keeping an eye on my adopted child while I’m off harvesting snowberries and murdering every Thalmor I come across.

Hey now, hurting (fantasy) Nazis is bad, mkay?

////

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:19:06pm

Speaking of kids, cannot believe my niece will be 3 already in March. Almost the same age I was when her Dad was born. And she recognizes me by name too.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:20:46pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

Never ceases to bug me that you can adopt two orphans…and there’s three orphans living rough in various Skyrim cities.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:21:00pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:21:46pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Yes, there are probably more important issues to worry about in the Trump presidency. But stories like this connect with people on a very real level, and we shouldn’t forget that politics isn’t just a dry exercise in policy debates. This touches people’s emotions, very clearly, and that can be a powerful motivator for change.

Consider the video of him walking in front of his wife to greet the Obamas and then the one of him entering a door in front of his wife that have both been displayed here over the last couple days and it sure makes you wonder about what he really thinks of women.

We heard all about the “grab ‘em by the pu$$y” bit and all the women that have said he groped or forced himself on them, but this is his own wife.

Then there is the way he spoke regarding his own daughter and the way he grabbed her lower waste at the convention.

Add them all up and this guy has about as low a regard for women as you can get. He’s a PIG! It is all so very clear by his actions. Women are there to serve The Don’s desires…it’s all they are good for.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:23:31pm

All errands run, meetings attended, can appreciate my only night off this week. Found out my son’s social worker spent the weekend (well, Saturday at least :D ) in Washington DC…

Oven fried rosemary potatoes, a couple of corn dogs, cheap beer & good whisky. Not too shabby for a fat old divorced fart.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:24:25pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

I doubt that she’ll ever move into the White House. Obviously something is wrong with her kid, and keeping him away from Trump is the best thing she could do.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:25:09pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

Consider the video of him walking in front of his wife to greet the Obamas and then the one of him entering a door in front of his wife that have both been displayed here over the last couple days and it sure makes you wonder about what he really thinks of women.

We heard all about the “grab ‘em by the pu$$y” bit and all the women that have said he groped or forced himself on them, but this is his own wife.

Then there is the way he spoke regarding his own daughter and the way he grabbed her lower waste at the convention.

Add them all up and this guy has about as low a regard for women as you can get. He’s a PIG! It is all so very clear by his actions. Women are there to serve The Don’s desires…it’s all they are good for.

He just doesn’t respect women. He’d be trashing Kellyanne had he lost in his usual nasty way.

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:25:31pm
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allegro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:26:57pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

This is also reflected in one of his first acts as POTUS today signing a maim/death warrant for women around the world. All connected.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:27:59pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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I love that old guy. Congress’s wise cracking grandpa. I know hes not in anymore.

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allegro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:28:16pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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What part of “Fuck Trump” coming from millions of women did they fail to understand?

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:28:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:28:59pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:29:08pm

Made the mistake of re following wingnutty friend. Sigh love the guy like a brother practically but he’s still constantly whining about people having the audacity to protest.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:29:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:30:07pm

re: #138 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Never ceases to bug me that you can adopt two orphans…and there’s three orphans living rough in various Skyrim cities.

True. On the other hand I never get tired of gifting my little girl a new dagger every time I return home and then watching her go to town on her training dummy like some kind of frighteningly psychotic death whirlwind. I’m now leveling up smithing and enchantment just so I can give her a scary as fuck knife collection. With all the bullshit going down in Skyrim that seems like some real prudent, caring, parent-of-the-year shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:31:07pm

re: #147 allegro

What part of “Fuck Trump” coming from millions of women did they fail to understand?

My favorite was my wingnutty friend who constantly called Obama a pussy complaining about kids who said that. I’ve heard a lot worse about Obama from some of my teen brother’s conservative friends.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:31:51pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Made the mistake of re following wingnutty friend. Sigh love the guy like a brother practically but he’s still constantly whining about people having the audacity to protest.

How did he explain the Tea Party? Or, did he never say anything about them. The whole movement was a protest of Obama and the Dems.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:32:54pm

re: #151 Sherlock Hound

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Yes, frighteningly so. Does this make Bush, Kaiser Bill and if so, can Dubya grow a cool old school German mustache?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:33:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:34:59pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

How did he explain the Tea Party? Or, did he never say anything about them. The whole movement was a protest of Obama and the Dems.

It was just a one sentence bitchy meme saying they should raise their kids better. He has a pathetic habit of shaming overweight women even though he’s a big guy himself. I’m gonna call him out on it next time we talk irl. He needs to learn he’s making an ass of himself.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:36:20pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:36:53pm

re: #147 allegro

It’s not about not understanding. Or even about lying.

It’s about declaring something else true so it’s unclear what the truth is. And eventually, given opportunity, using power and influence to make an advantageous counterfactual account “true.”

If you put no value on epistemology, if your only standard of validity is your intensity of belief, then you can declare something and make it be true.

This is really what underlies declarations like Orwell about the present controlling the past.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:37:06pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

True. On the other hand I never get tired of gifting my little girl a new dagger every time I return home and then watching her go to town on her training dummy like some kind of frighteningly psychotic death whirlwind. I’m now leveling up smithing and enchantment just so I can give her a scary as fuck knife collection. With all the bullshit going down in Skyrim that seems like some real prudent, caring, parent-of-the-year shit.

Yeah, every kid needs a Daedric or Dragonbone dagger.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:37:24pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:38:15pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Ha! Given the vampire/dragon situation…enchant the fuck out of that knife.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:38:24pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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Did it mention what, or who, we’re supposed to be devoted to?

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:39:03pm

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

/sigh

Downdinging hatchling on a roll, just a heads up.

Yup. Downdinged me for my #51.

re: #86 Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)

First time I heard that phrase was in a Stephen King movie. Still not quite sure what’s behind it (even through I grew up a Cat-licker myself).

Does it have to do with the eating of fish on Fridays?

Yup!

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scottslemmons  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:39:21pm

I need someone to come down here and fix my computer. Also, I need someone to give me so much money, I can get all the books on my wishlist. WHATCHALL WAITIN FER

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TedStriker  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:39:57pm

re: #163 calochortus

Did it mention what, or who, we’re supposed to be devoted to?

I’ll give you three choices and the first two don’t count.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:40:10pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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Imagine if he had gotten his military parade he wanted. Man this is legit creepy. When does he appoint himself a general and start walking around wearing fatigues?

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KGxvi  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:40:56pm

So, just went over to the White House page to see if any of the new executive orders are up. There’s a splash page to get updates from the president about how he’s going to make America great again. And then when you bypass that, it looks at first like a campaign website, which is… weird. But anyway, for those wondering, the stuff he signed today is up under Presidential Memoranda. I found this bit particularly interesting on the TPP one:

Based on these principles, and by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct you to withdraw the United States as a signatory to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), to permanently withdraw the United States from TPP negotiations, and to begin pursuing, wherever possible, bilateral trade negotiations to promote American industry, protect American workers, and raise American wages.

Not sure what makes bilateral agreements better. In fact, I can think of many benefits to entering into one agreement with as many as 18 other countries than being in 18 bilateral agreements.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:40:57pm

Sean’s time is limited

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:41:00pm

re: #110 Moebym

He reproduced. Now that’s terrifying.

I’ll want to see a paternity test before I believe that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #160 Timothy Watson

Yeah, every kid needs a Daedric or Dragonbone dagger.

I was pissed off that I couldn’t give her Nettlebane when I was done with that quest. Wanted her to have the option to become a Spriggan sacrificing Hag later in life. Put it in her storage chest anyway. It’s all about providing a supportive and affirming atmosphere.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:41:17pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Imagine if he had gotten his military parade he wanted. Man this is legit creepy. When does he appoint himself a general and start walking around wearing fatigues?

Fatigues? Fatigues?????? He’ll have the bestest, biggest, most medal encrusted uniform EVER!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:43:07pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:43:50pm

re: #172 calochortus

Fatigues? Fatigues?????? He’ll have the bestest, biggest, most medal encrusted uniform EVER!

He’ll have medals that you’ve never even seen before, believe me!

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:44:05pm

re: #168 KGxvi

I think the idea is that a bunch of separate bilateral agreements give Trump-the consummate deal maker-a chance to make the best possible deal with each of our trading partners. That if a group agreed to something, there might be a provision that isn’t that very, very best for the US.

I also think that is totally wrong.

edited to remove word-salad.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:44:20pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:44:52pm

re: #159 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

It’s not about not understanding. Or even about lying.

It’s about declaring something else true so it’s unclear what the truth is. And eventually, given opportunity, using power and influence to make an advantageous counterfactual account “true.”

If you put no value on epistemology, if your only standard of validity is your intensity of belief, then you can declare something and make it be true.

This is really what underlies declarations like Orwell about the present controlling the past.

I sure as hell wouldn’t want to talk with anyone connected to the GOP; unless a gigantic disclaimer is said that they are nothing but hard-core liars and are a threat to humanity.

Basically, there’s only one outcome, and that’s an outright shattering of the republic.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:44:53pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

Sean’s time is limited

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You know what, I hope they let him go and Sean lets the anger we saw a couple nights ago on Donald. What more does the petty piece of shit want? Spicer spun for him as best as he could.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:45:41pm

re: #176 darthstar

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He likes me, he really likes me!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:45:45pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:46:14pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

At a guess? A FOX blonde.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:47:44pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

This could all be bullshit. Trump’s game is to get the media to always get things wrong so he can attack them.

I hope they’ve got a half dozen sources for this.

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Puss Power  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:48:00pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Another expert weighs in…

/

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:48:07pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

Sean’s time is limited

On the contrary, I think this is what they wanted all along. Sean is enough of a fucking moron that he is a distraction from the rat fucking going on by Trump, Ryan and McConnell.

Sean could commit seppuku at the dais and Trump wouldn’t mind.

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KGxvi  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:48:32pm

re: #175 calochortus

I think the idea with a bunch of separate bilateral agreements give Trump-the consummate deal maker-a chance to make the best possible deal with each of our trading partners. That if a group agreed to something, there might be a provision that isn’t that very, very best for the US.

I also think that is totally wrong.

Given his repeated trips to bankruptcy courts, you’d think he’d be used to negotiating a multilateral deal.

On a serious note, the bilateral approach would have made sense in the 19th century. But for the last century or so, the international community has been building international trade law through multilateral agreements and institutions like the WTO. Having so many different agreements, potentially with varying terms, would be foolish, I think.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:48:42pm

re: #176 darthstar

That’s so special!

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:51:54pm

re: #185 KGxvi

Given his repeated trips to bankruptcy courts, you’d think he’d be used to negotiating a multilateral deal.

On a serious note, the bilateral approach would have made sense in the 19th century. But for the last century or so, the international community has been building international trade law through multilateral agreements and institutions like the WTO. Having so many different agreements, potentially with varying terms, would be foolish, I think.

Imagine how excited small to medium sized businesses that trade internationally will be having to deal with 5 different arrangements when they import and export stuff.
(I assume large multinationals can afford the staff to deal with it.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:52:11pm

re: #181 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

At a guess? A FOX blonde.

Wasn’t Laura Ingraham being considered? She’s not FNC but she is blonde.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:53:33pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Setting aside the snark, I think he wants someone who can lie facilely and not get overheated.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:55:09pm

re: #189 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Setting aside the snark, I think he wants someone who can lie facilely and not get overheated.

A talk radio host would have experience with that though granted Laura’s not used to having people talk back to her. i read up on Spicer’s background today on the way from home. He seems to be more a policy behind the scenes type guy than media guy.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:55:38pm

70-year-old admits robbing bank, says jail is better than staying with his wife

sanluisobispo.com

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:56:50pm

re: #187 calochortus

Imagine how excited small to medium sized businesses that trade internationally will be having to deal with 5 different arrangements when they import and export stuff. (I assume large multinationals can afford the staff to deal with it.)

This is exactly correct. Drumpf wants to yell about over-reaching government, but separate and differing trade agreements are the equivalent of unfunded mandates by that same government on small companies trying to broaden their international market reach.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:57:48pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:57:59pm

So, Orange Anus’s reinstatement of the Gag Rule means no more US money to Israel, right?
/

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:58:25pm

re: #189 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Setting aside the snark, I think he wants someone who can lie facilely and not get overheated.

Hmmm..sounds like someone who is working for him now…

Who could it be, who could it be…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2017 • 3:59:13pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t Laura Ingraham being considered? She’s not FNC but she is blonde.

They’re all practicality identical and made out of pre-fabricated materials.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:02:50pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

You know what, I hope they let him go and Sean lets the anger we saw a couple nights ago on Donald. What more does the petty piece of shit want? Spicer spun for him as best as he could.

Remember that Jason Miller was the first choice but had to bow out after AJ Delgado outed him as her illicit baby daddy.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:05:08pm

re: #192 austin_blue

This is exactly correct. Drumpf wants to yell about over-reaching government, but separate and differing trade agreements are the equivalent of unfunded mandates by that same government on small companies trying to broaden their international market reach.

But sounds sooooo good.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:05:51pm

I think Sean Hannity would be a good choice. He could keep his job at Fox, then just ask and answer all the questions himself. He wouldn’t even need to be in Washington.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:11:52pm

Trump names new FCC chairman: Ajit Pai, who wants to take a ‘weed whacker’ to net neutrality

Kiss your high speed, ad free internet provider goodbye.

latimes.com

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:12:26pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

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That dick Bannon’s smirky face… 🤢

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Mike Lamb  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:13:29pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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So instead of being miserable after he turns around, she was miserable before. That’s a heckuva defense.

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Donkey With No Name  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:14:26pm

re: #175 calochortus

I think the idea is that a bunch of separate bilateral agreements give Trump-the consummate deal maker-a chance to make the best possible deal with each of our trading partners. That if a group agreed to something, there might be a provision that isn’t that very, very best for the US.

I also think that is totally wrong.

edited to remove word-salad.

I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Arbitrage.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:16:16pm

I just want to get out of the way that Bernie Sanders is a fuckin’ toad, goddamn sell out, has as much ethics as a mobbed up casino owner. Fuck Bernie Sanders with a big rubber dick. Giving Fuckface Von Clownstick his rubber stamps for his cabinet and praising him for fucking over our economy for years to come. That fuck.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:18:31pm

re: #203 Donkey With No Name

I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Arbitrage.

Interesting concept. I’m sure Main Street will be the main beneficiaries.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:20:24pm

re: #201 CuriousLurker

I almost didn’t post because of that.

puke

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:20:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:21:28pm
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scottslemmons  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:21:38pm

Seeing some friends talking about this over on FB — thoughts?

mobile.reuters.com

EDIT: Ugh, sorry. Reuters Headline: “Republicans pass sweeping bill to reform ‘abusive’ U.S. regulation”

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:22:06pm
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Moebym  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:22:36pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I just want to get out of the way that Bernie Sanders is a fuckin’ toad, goddamn sell out, has as much ethics as a mobbed up casino owner. Fuck Bernie Sanders with a big rubber dick. Giving Fuckface Von Clownstick his rubber stamps for his cabinet and praising him for fucking over our economy for years to come. That fuck.

Tell us how you really think.

And I don’t disagree. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up voting for the fucker despite his campaigning for Hillary.

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:23:03pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:23:08pm

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:23:21pm
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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:23:44pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

Obama did it.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:23:57pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

It increases the profit margin for big banks and allows for more predatory loaning that led to the housing crash of 2007.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:24:32pm

re: #209 scottslemmons

Seeing some friends talking about this over on FB — thoughts?

mobile.reuters.com

Sounds like a bad idea. Of course, it might mean states can’t “regulate” abortion clinics, but somehow I doubt it.

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:25:11pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

Asked and answered, dude. Asked and answered.

Oh, and rich people make more money.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:26:21pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

Because it hurts the non-monied class. That’s all the GOP cares about.

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nines09  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:27:21pm

re: #210 gocart mozart

Ask German historians how that “talking to the Nazi party” went.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:27:50pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I just want to get out of the way that Bernie Sanders is a fuckin’ toad, goddamn sell out, has as much ethics as a mobbed up casino owner. Fuck Bernie Sanders with a big rubber dick. Giving Fuckface Von Clownstick his rubber stamps for his cabinet and praising him for fucking over our economy for years to come. That fuck.

Meanwhile, the Bernie Supporters will cheer that the trade policies are gone.

It sure is a crazy political world right now. Alt-thinking going on all around.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:28:01pm

re: #220 nines09

Ask German historians how that “talking to the Nazi party” went.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:28:23pm

FREE MELANIA!!

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:31:34pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Apparently, bitter Leftists all have access to, and expert-level knowledge of, professional-level video editing tools. Someone start a union! We’re doing too much work like this for free!

Also:

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:31:34pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

$$$$$

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KingKenrod  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:34:19pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

My own guess is it instantly made billions of dollars in loans more valuable, a windfall for banks. You can almost see the same dumb decisions that led to the last banking crisis play out again in slow motion.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:34:30pm
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Timothy Watson  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:35:42pm

re: #224 Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)

Apparently, bitter Leftists all have access to, and expert-level knowledge of, professional-level video editing tools. Someone start a union! We’re doing too much work like this for free!

Also:

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To be fair, I could probably do that in AviSynth in a couple minutes time, and most of that would be remembering the syntax.

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:38:26pm

re: #228 Timothy Watson

To be fair, I could probably do that in AviSynth in a couple minutes time, and most of that would be remembering the syntax.

Yeah, I *could* do it in Premiere Pro, but I’d probably spend a bunch of time noodling around with the time-remapping function, extracting the audio, putting it on a separate track, and then scrubbing back and forth until I got to the proper point. But still - the lip movements would NOT match, no matter what you do.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:39:15pm

I remain incredibly grateful that in both cases, my insurance has paid for mine.

I paid for a friend’s a few years ago as a wedding present. To do my part to pay it forward.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:40:32pm

re: #181 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

At a guess? A FOX blonde.

Katrina Pierson. Snicker.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:41:46pm

re: #230 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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I remain incredibly grateful that in both cases, my insurance has paid for mine.

I paid for a friend’s a few years ago as a wedding present. To do my part to pay it forward.

Props to Deray for pointing this out. So much respect for that guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:44:33pm

re: #221 ObserverArt

Meanwhile, the Bernie Supporters will cheer that the trade policies are gone.

It sure is a crazy political world right now. Alt-thinking going on all around.

Honestly, their views on trade are part of why I’m more in the middle on trade than I was in the past. I think Hillary actually did a good job articulating my philosophy on them pretty well. Sanders and Trump I think are both dangerously ignorant about trade. So many Sanderites think we opposed him because we didn’t think he could win. I honestly thought Clinton and O’Malley would have made better Presidents and that position hasn’t changed.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:46:28pm

Can you feel the love?

CAIR-St Louis: America, 2016. A man with a gun screams at a Muslim family near St. Louis. “You Muslim?” he allegedly said. “All of you should die.”

It’s ubiquitous in the daily lives of Muslim Americans. It’s when a Muslim mom tells her daughter to maybe not wear the hijab today. It’s a Muslim father having to explain to his children that no, they’re citizens, they can’t be deported. It’s how almost every Muslim in a movie is depicted as a terrorist, and it’s why cable news channels only ask Muslims if they condemn terrorism. […]

Rule 1: Muslims are not American.

[Language NSFW]

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Rule 2: All Muslims are terrorists.

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[…]

And on & on. Every. Fucking. Day. But remember, there’s no such thing as Islamophobia, it’s just some PC bullshit Muslims invented to deflect criticism.

More: 6 Rules Of Islamophobia In America

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:49:44pm

re: #234 CuriousLurker

Can you feel the love?

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Do these hateful fucks have nothing else to do? BTW CL, I read this on Buzzfeed yesterday, the young lady isn’t Muslim but she is Arab-American and I think she writes beautifully about how non-European Americans feel left out when politicians talk about the Rust Belt.
buzzfeed.com

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gocart mozart  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:50:08pm
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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:50:25pm

re: #234 CuriousLurker

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:51:53pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I just want to get out of the way that Bernie Sanders is a fuckin’ toad, goddamn sell out, has as much ethics as a mobbed up casino owner. Fuck Bernie Sanders with a big rubber dick. Giving Fuckface Von Clownstick his rubber stamps for his cabinet and praising him for fucking over our economy for years to come. That fuck.

Berners i know are thrilled about it. Sigh. You know, I just think protectionism is bad. Whenever Bernie would talk about trade during the campaign, I got the distinct impression he didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. I feel bad for people who have lost jobs due to trade and outsourcing, I really do but I really get bothered by protectionist rhetoric and from what I’ve since read on TPP for all its warts, I think could have built relationships in an important part of the world.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:53:32pm

re: #238 calochortus

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So very, very true. Every word.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:55:10pm

I was thinking earlier about how who I am is because people in my family have let love transcend certain labels. My great grandfather and the bearer of my surname was a German-Lutheran. He married my great grandmother, a German-Catholic girl which probably raised some eyebrows. Then my grandfather, his son married my grandmother who wasn’t as well off. Again probably raised some eyebrows. My parents came from vastly different places too. And just three years ago my brother married a young woman that was born in another country. I don’t care where you’re from, what your first language is, what religion you practice or you don’t practice, you try to treat me well and I’ll treat you well.

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Moebym  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:55:28pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I honestly thought Clinton and O’Malley would have made better Presidents and that position hasn’t changed.

A friend of mine swore that O’Malley would have won the election had he been the nominee. He called both Clinton and Sanders “terrible” candidates (though he did vote for her), and argued that O’Malley fit the mold of a “generic” Democrat and would’ve beaten any Republican nominee.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:56:10pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Berners i know are thrilled about it. Sigh. You know, I just think protectionism is bad. Whenever Bernie would talk about trade during the campaign, I got the distinct impression he didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. I feel bad for people who have lost jobs due to trade and outsourcing, I really do but I really get bothered by protectionist rhetoric and from what I’ve since read on TPP for all its warts, I think could have built relationships in an important part of the world.

I have a neighbor with a small business. They make widgets that go on industrial equipment. What a lot of people don’t get is they buy components from other countries, and then they turn around and sell their final products in other countries as well as in the US.
Trade is complex. Trade is global. It goes both ways.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:56:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:56:51pm

re: #243 Moebym

A friend of mine swore that O’Malley would have won the election had he been the nominee. He called both Clinton and Sanders “terrible” candidates (though he did vote for her), and argued that O’Malley fit the mold of a “generic” Democrat and would’ve beaten any Republican nominee.

I dunno if he would have but I was really disappointed he didn’t do better than he did. The nomination really was Clinton’s to lose though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:58:43pm

re: #244 calochortus

I have a neighbor with a small business. They make widgets that go on industrial equipment. What a lot of people don’t get is they buy components from other countries, and then they turn around and sell their final products in other countries as well as in the US.
Trade is complex. Trade is global. It goes both ways.

Trade can honestly really be a good thing. I don’t think there should be no regulations but encouraging it isn’t bad at all. I just think too many people like Sanders see how big corporations benefit from trade and he doesn’t think of people like your neighbor.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:58:51pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

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I think we’re seeing a really depressing pattern set up here. Trump whines about stuff, some conservative brings him something to sign, Spicer lies about something, and then Trump whines again. Rinse, repeat.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:59:20pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

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God shut the fuck up already. You’re in office, you big baby.

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:59:39pm

re: #234 CuriousLurker

After the 2015 terror attack in Paris, when Donald Trump and other GOP presidential candidates were ratcheting up their anti-Muslim political speech,

I remember that all too well. Around the same time, I saw this movie. I can’t find words to describe the sickening sensation I experienced - dread that trump would win coupled with a lightbulb-moment/epiphany of the “Good German” phenomenon (and how the Nazis gained power in the first place - I always understood it an at intellectual level, but that was the first time I felt it in a *visceral* way, as if I’d traveled back in time and was seeing it unfold before my eyes).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 4:59:54pm

re: #248 calochortus

I think we’re seeing a really depressing pattern set up here. Trump whines about stuff, some conservative brings him something to sign, Spicer lies about something, and then Trump whines again. Rinse, repeat.

Trump really needs to wear a diaper and bib when he speaks and signs bills.

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EPR-radar  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:01:01pm

re: #244 calochortus

I have a neighbor with a small business. They make widgets that go on industrial equipment. What a lot of people don’t get is they buy components from other countries, and then they turn around and sell their final products in other countries as well as in the US.
Trade is complex. Trade is global. It goes both ways.

Some things about trade seem simple enough — like how the investor-state dispute resolution stuff in the TPP sounds like the worst giveaway to big business ever.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:02:18pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Question: leaving aside the general desire to fuck over middle and lower income folks, can anyone explain the rationale for reversing the decrease in mortgage insurance?

I really think it was to target minorities, who, on average, could have used the money more.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:02:55pm

As I’ve gotten older, I’ve become more pragmatic in the sense that I don’t try to fault something because it’s not perfect. ACA in my younger and more idealistic years I wouldn’t have liked because it didn’t go far enough. But with age and wisdom, I know it’s helped a lot of people including my friends and family.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:04:04pm

re: #227 teleskiguy

What need do the people have any longer of contacting their government? Donald J. Trump, the avatar, nay, the very apotheosis of the Common Man sits now in the seat of power. Surely all his actions henceforward will be those that are optimal for the fortunes of the little guy.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:05:20pm

re: #252 EPR-radar

Some things about trade seem simple enough — like how the investor-state dispute resolution stuff in the TPP sounds like the worst giveaway to big business ever.

I’m afraid I’m really not informed enough to know about that portion of the TPP, although I know people have been concerned about it.
On the other hand, with no TPP, the Chinese will probably get to set trade policy for many countries.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:06:28pm

re: #256 calochortus

I’m afraid I’m really not informed enough to know about that portion of the TPP, although I know people have been concerned about it.
On the other hand, with no TPP, the Chinese will probably get to set trade policy for many countries.

That’s what I’ve heard too. From what I know it’s far from a perfect legislation but hardly the evil Trump/Sanders made it out either.

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calochortus  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:09:09pm

BBL
Time to get working on dinner.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:09:26pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Berners i know are thrilled about it. Sigh. You know, I just think protectionism is bad.

What I’d really like are some modern examples where protectionism has worked as intended. Or perhaps protectionism cannot fail, but only be failed?

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Moebym  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:09:35pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Trade can honestly really be a good thing. I don’t think there should be no regulations but encouraging it isn’t bad at all. I just think too many people like Sanders see how big corporations benefit from trade and he doesn’t think of people like your neighbor.

Trade is one of those topics that is simply too complex for the average voter to digest. They respond much better to oversimplified arguments that appeal to their emotions, like “trade = big corporations make $$ = bad”.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:17:53pm

re: #234 CuriousLurker

I mentioned this yesterday, but I’ll say it again: A wingnut friend of mine the other night said that American citizens that are Muslim are less American than him. Oh, he voted for Trump in case you were wondering.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:33:56pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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Copied from the text of the proclamation (link goes to PDF file), celebrating the day that he was sworn in:

A new national pride stirs the American soul and inspires
the American heart. We are one people, united by a common
destiny and a shared purpose.

It literally is a “Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fueher” proclamation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:34:51pm

I don’t know how to do a video mix, but if I did I would put the video of Richard Spencer getting his clock cleaned to this music==>

Richard Strauss - Also sprach Zarathustra, Op 30 - Jansons

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:51:23pm

re: #260 Moebym

Trade is one of those topics that is simply too complex for the average voter to digest. They respond much better to oversimplified arguments that appeal to their emotions, like “trade = big corporations make $$ = bad”.

Exactly and I resent Sanders and Trump both for dumbing it down to the voters. Sanders in particular should know better having been around a long time in elected politics.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 5:53:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2017 • 8:34:11pm
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cat-tikvah  Jan 23, 2017 • 8:42:36pm

re: #147 allegro

Including the 30 from Antarctica! Even Antarctica hates him!


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