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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:42:12am
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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:43:13am

Awesome…I was just about to ask about Rage Spicer

And he opens with “don’t you want a bigger room?” - So they’re still thinking of moving the press out of the White House.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:45:18am

re: #1 Myron Falwell

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This is really fucked up.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:45:18am

For all of those I argued with on Facebook about why I want Trump to fail… this is why.

I have nothing but absolute contempt towards him and his cronies, and look forward to his inevitable destruction and ruination.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:45:22am

re: #2 darthstar

Awesome…I was just about to ask about Rage Spicer

And he opens with “don’t you want a bigger room?” - So they’re still thinking of moving the press out of the White House.

So he tried to frame it as some sort of grand favor to the press? That’s not doublespeak at allllllll….

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:45:47am

re: #2 darthstar

Awesome…I was just about to ask about Rage Spicer

And he opens with “don’t you want a bigger room?” - So they’re still thinking of moving the press out of the White House.

Someplace with an orchestra pit and boxes.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:45:48am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:48:45am

re: #2 darthstar

Awesome…I was just about to ask about Rage Spicer

And he opens with “don’t you want a bigger room?” - So they’re still thinking of moving the press out of the White House.

And they want to add MOAR CLACQUERY hence the “larger room”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:49:02am

re: #1 Myron Falwell

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So EPA is the first one to leak the guidance!! Loving it.

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b.d.  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:49:40am

How soon before the monthly jobs numbers become a thing of the past?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:50:17am

re: #10 b.d.

What job numbers?

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:50:27am

re: #10 b.d.

How soon before the monthly jobs numbers become a thing of the past alternative stats?

Fixed.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:51:14am

re: #12 Interesting Times

Fixed.

We now have negative unemployment. Believe me.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:51:45am

Their relief efforts have plagued the southeast? I’m not surprised.

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:52:27am

re: #9 Decatur Deb

So EPA is the first one to leak the guidance!! Loving it.

Leaking like a TransCanada pipeline is indeed their best course of action at this point.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:52:40am

re: #10 b.d.

How soon before the monthly jobs numbers become a thing of the past?

Are you kidding? Sean Spicer will proudly announce on February 3 that in his first two weeks in office, Trump reduced unemployment from 42% to 4.7%!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:53:07am

Yes, Laura Ingraham’s fake news outlet

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:54:03am

re: #17 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, Laura Ingraham’s fake news outlet

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I guess they don’t want to give it to Breitbart at every press conference.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:54:18am

re: #18 Big Beautiful Door

I guess they don’t want to give it to Breitbart at every press conference.

Gotta be fair. //

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:54:54am

Will the President call the Anti-choice fucks?
Well, Kellyanne will be there.

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KGxvi  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:55:37am

re: #1 Myron Falwell

And not just the EPA: Other agencies telling staff to “cease communications with members of Congress and the press”

re: #3 HappyWarrior

This is really fucked up.

They do realize that Congress has subpoena power, right? And that even Republicans in Congress are going to want updates? This is not going to end well, for Trump…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:56:02am

re: #10 b.d.

How soon before the monthly jobs numbers become a thing of the past?

Those can be manipulated any which way.

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Franklin  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:56:12am
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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:56:46am

re: #10 b.d.

How soon before the monthly jobs numbers become a thing of the past?

WHy do we need numbers, when we already know we’re just swimming in jobs now thanks to God-Emperor Trump?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:57:19am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:57:49am

Warren Harding knew his close. He died before the Ohio Gang Scandal of political cronyism run amok blew up. (I actually saw the history of that scandal while visiting Washington Court House back on the 2012 Great Ohio Bicycle Adventure; and it was even more messed up than you might even think.)

This level of outright cronyism, attempted suppression and political privileges seen on display right now would make Harding blush.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:58:29am

re: #25 FormerDirtDart

I wonder if that evidence was drawn with crayon or magic marker.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:59:08am

re: #21 KGxvi

They do realize that Congress has subpoena power, right? And that even Republicans in Congress are going to want updates? This is not going to end well, for Trump…

Bunker mentality. He adopted it during the campaign.

This isn’t 1933 Hitler… this is April 1945 Hitler.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:00:06am

re: #26 Myron Falwell

Warren Harding knew his close. He died before the Ohio Gang Scandal of political cronyism run amok blew up. (I actually saw the history of that scandal while visiting Washington Court House back on the 2012 GOBA; and it was even more messed up than you might even think.)

This level of outright cronyism, attempted suppression and political privileges seen on display right now would make Harding blush.

Trump wants to find out how much he can get away with. So far, it’s everything.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:00:32am

re: #21 KGxvi

They do realize that Congress has subpoena power, right? And that even Republicans in Congress are going to want updates? This is not going to end well, for Trump…

Assumes facts not in evidence - that the GOP cares whether the EPA functions or not. The Administration and the GOP are intent on breaking government as a function (and breaking a functioning federal government).

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:01:01am

re: #27 Belafon

I wonder if that evidence was drawn with crayon or magic marker.

Dry Erase. Changes so fast…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:02:12am

This is turning more Dystopian far faster than I ever believed.

To be sure, the rush to claim internment camps and freight cars always tends to seem hyperbolic, but at the rate this administration is removing Truth from and and all official communications, ceasing normal public information access, dictating business decisions via pure edict, and in press conferences constantly produce completely outlandish statements with no evidence and then a scamper away from answering the question.

This is the first stage of a dystopia, then next is securing personal and ideological battlements around the White House to cripple Congress in order to complete a takeover of the democracy. Already Republicans have remained completely silent and seem to be fine with the loss of democracy in favor of raw corporate greed currying favor with Trump.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:02:59am

“You see, Mister President - that has such a nice ring to it, doesn’t it - that only legitimate votes are used when computing the Electoral College count. So, obviously, these must have been illegal votes.”

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:03:21am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:03:27am

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants to find out how much he can get away with. So far, it’s everything.

For the most part because of a feckless and subservient Republican Party. This is their monster and they can’t challenge him.

Thus, they’re going for everything at once, knowing that their luck will soon run out.

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KGxvi  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:03:50am

re: #30 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - that the GOP cares whether the EPA functions or not. The Administration and the GOP are intent on breaking government as a function (and breaking a functioning federal government).

They might not care about the EPA in principle, but when the river next to their district turns bright yellow, they’ll care. And when this ends up being applied to other agencies, like say the VA or the Social Security Administration, everyone gets a subpoena.

The top priority of members of Congress is to get reelected. Most of the Republicans in Congress know that if Trump fucks stuff up too much, while they are in charge, they won’t get reelected.

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S'latch  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:04:03am

He sounds like someone sped up the playback on his voice. He’s like an annoying, lying chipmunk.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:04:44am
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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:06:05am

re: #30 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - that the GOP cares whether the EPA functions or not. The Administration and the GOP are intent on breaking government as a function (and breaking a functioning federal government).

This. Congress using subpoena power assumes they care about the specifics. Congressional GOP has proven far too many times they don’t care how things blow up as long as it blows up.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:06:06am

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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Uh part of those problems have been lines so yes more people would be a reasonable answer you fuckwit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:06:24am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:06:49am

re: #30 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - that the GOP cares whether the EPA functions or not. The Administration and the GOP are intent on breaking government as a function (and breaking a functioning federal government).

Thus, why we need to call them out as nihilists.

No working or functional government only results in chaos. And sadly, it reinforces my belief that we won’t wind up with 1933 Germany… but 1990 Romania.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:07:07am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Uh part of those problems have been lines so yes more people would be a reasonable answer you fuckwit.

There are few billionaire vets. Hence there is no problem.

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DuckDharma  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:07:36am

So rich. Last year, it was the GOP that blocked Dems amendments calling for the Keystone pipeline to be made with US steel.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:08:03am

I have a friend I know in the IRS who noted that they have a 37% call answer rate, which is a direct consequence of the utter lack of hands. You don’t solve these problems by starving the beast, unless the beast in question IS the problem.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:08:31am

re: #36 KGxvi

They might not care about the EPA in principle, but when the river next to their district turns bright yellow, they’ll care. And when this ends up being applied to other agencies, like say the VA or the Social Security Administration, everyone gets a subpoena.

The top priority of members of Congress is to get reelected. Most of the Republicans in Congress know that if Trump fucks stuff up too much, while they are in charge, they won’t get reelected.

No, they’ll blame the gutted EPA for not doing enough - or the state DEP for not doing enough - and because they’ve been shown to be incapable of doing the job, they’ll cut funding further. Just watch.

See how the GOP (and a media that didn’t bother to trace back the source) claimed that the river contamination caused last year when an EPA worker accidentally breached a dike in CO put all the blame on the EPA. Nowhere was the company that dumped the waste in the first place blamed by the GOP. The EPA was trying to deal with contamination caused by a mining company that didn’t care about cleaning up after itself.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:08:42am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:09:15am

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

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Wut.

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scottslemmons  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:09:26am

re: #21 KGxvi

They do realize that Congress has subpoena power, right? And that even Republicans in Congress are going to want updates? This is not going to end well, for Trump…

Congress? Demanding answers from Trump? He’s giving them everything they’ve every wanted. He’s going to kill the ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and every possible government entity. He could shoot a dozen Republican legislators, melt down the Statue of Liberty, blow up Mt. Rushmore, and openly declare himself the leader of the new Fourth Reich, and they’d give him the Trump Medal for Maximum Trumpy Trump.

Congress is, trust me, ecstatic about this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:10:34am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

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Yep and I actually had some sympathy for this asshole last night after reading that Trump thought he didn’t lie well enough for him. Fuck him and fuck the Republicans. Man this shit.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:11:05am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:11:53am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:11:59am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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Fuckers complain about John Lewis saying with actual evidence he feels Trump is illegitimate but then they do the same to Obama. Oh, I see how it is Republicans.

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KGxvi  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:12:47am

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

The legal argument for abortion becoming a state issue at this point is incredibly dubious. And can be incredibly far reaching.

Would the Court continue to recognize the general constitutional right to privacy but simply hold that the right to an abortion (a medical procedure) is not covered by the right to privacy? And if this one particular medical procedure isn’t covered, are there other medical procedures that aren’t covered?

If the Court strikes down the constitutional right to privacy, how many other cases (and rights we take for granted) become suspect?

The most common argument being made by pro-lifers is that life begins at conception and thus equal protection and due process should apply to the unborn. If that’s the decision the Court reaches, there’s no way for it to be legal in some places and illegal in others. And that’s before we get into the hundreds of moral questions attached to such a ruling.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:14:12am

For all of you with Democratic Congresspeople: call them and tell them to sponsor a bill forcing agencies that aren’t dealing with classified information to release that information to the public as they did before.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:14:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:15:30am

This is why I am rather depressed. You can’t argue with them using facts and you can’t punch them in the face.

I am really afraid that people are going to get killed - not counting those who are likely die of causes that could easily be prevented - but I mean people getting actively killed as a result of this rather casual approach to facts, causality and justice.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:15:36am

Why are these reporters fellating this asshole?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:16:03am

re: #54 KGxvi

The legal argument for abortion becoming a state issue at this point is incredibly dubious. And can be incredibly far reaching.

Would the Court continue to recognize the general constitutional right to privacy but simply hold that the right to an abortion (a medical procedure) is not covered by the right to privacy? And if this one particular medical procedure isn’t covered, are there other medical procedures that aren’t covered?

If the Court strikes down the constitutional right to privacy, how many other cases (and rights we take for granted) become suspect?

The most common argument being made by pro-lifers is that life begins at conception and thus equal protection and due process should apply to the unborn. If that’s the decision the Court reaches, there’s no way for it to be legal in some places and illegal in others. And that’s before we get into the hundreds of moral questions attached to such a ruling.

That’s what a lot of people who don’t understand law don’t get. You gut the right to legal abortion based on a constitutional right to privacy. A lot of floodgates could open.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:16:55am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Alternative facts. It goes quite nicely with their alternative reality.

*smh*

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scottslemmons  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:18:10am

re: #58 darthstar

Why are these reporters fellating this asshole?

I’m sure plenty of them are part of the Breitbart claque.

Is there anywhere that lists the names, organizations, and contact info for all the reporters attending the briefings? Legitimate news organizations need to be getting screamed at on a daily basis if they’re kowtowing to the fascists.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:18:13am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Yep and I actually had some sympathy for this asshole last night after reading that Trump thought he didn’t lie well enough for him. Fuck him and fuck the Republicans. Man this shit.

Spicer knew what he was getting himself into. Even WRT that story I couldn’t find any iota of sympathy for him.

Don’t beat yourself up over it… I’ll probably get fooled by something similar in a story in the future. That’s normal.

These fuckers…. they aren’t normal.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:19:07am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:19:11am

re: #58 darthstar

Why are these reporters fellating this asshole?

The alphabet networks have the equivalent of duck tape on their mouths.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:19:14am

re: #62 Myron Falwell

Spicer knew what he was getting himself into. Even WRT that story I couldn’t find any iota of sympathy for him.

Don’t beat yourself up over it… I’ll probably get fooled by something similar in a story in the future. That’s normal.

These fuckers…. they aren’t normal.

As I said last night, I’m too much of a bleeding heart for my own good sometimes. These guys. Man.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:19:37am

re: #58 darthstar

Why are these reporters fellating this asshole?

They value their access more than their integrity or accurate reporting. If they talk back, they get threatened with the axe.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:19:53am

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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Well the Cleveland Browns play football so congratulations Browns fans, your team is going to the Super Bowl!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:21:16am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Well the Cleveland Browns play football so congratulations Browns fans, your team is going to the Super Bowl!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:21:36am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:22:15am

This is so horrible.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:22:44am

Stop letting him answer every question with 306 Electoral votes and empty bragging

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Franklin  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:23:19am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:23:37am

re: #68 Myron Falwell

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I actually even though I’m a diehard Steelers fan do have a soft spot for the Brownies. Loyal fans and the Cleveland archdiocese couldn’t have been nicer when I was trying and did find my great grandmother’s baptismal record and her parents’ marriage record. Plus I played Little League with a guy on the Indians.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:23:40am

“By law he can’t have conflicts” - they interpret that to mean that there are no possible conflicts…it means the opposite.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:24:04am

re: #58 darthstar

Why are these reporters fellating this asshole?

asshole access

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b.d.  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:24:05am

14% of the votes were illegal but there is no need for any investigation!!! EMAILS!!! BENGHAZI!@!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:24:39am

re: #72 Franklin

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Actions have consequences. Trump’s such an idiot he doesn’t know that.

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scottslemmons  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:13am

re: #72 Franklin

everythingisfinedog.gif

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I’m actually starting to look forward to China dropping nukes on us. Only way to fix things now.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:35am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

asshole access

Access has become more important to journalists than investigating the truth. Journalism has failed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:36am

re: #74 darthstar

“By law he can’t have conflicts” - they interpret that to mean that there are no possible conflicts…it means the opposite.

It means that whatever we perceive as conflicts are our own problem, not his…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:39am

“He has no conflicts. By law, he can’t have conflicts.”

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Franklin  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:46am

re: #74 darthstar

“By law he can’t have conflicts” - they interpret that to mean that there are no possible conflicts…it means the opposite.

Nixon: Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:25:59am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Access has become more important to journalists than investigating the truth. Journalism has failed.

Trump is President, Do we need any more proof?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:26:22am

re: #82 Franklin

Nixon: Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.

I think Nixon’s calling Trump and saying why couldn’t I have been you.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:26:35am

re: #78 scottslemmons

I’m actually starting to look forward to China dropping nukes on us. Only way to fix things now.

I love the bomb, but it’s a strange love.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:26:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:26:59am

rawstory.com
But I was told that half of the womens out there were supporting him!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:27:36am

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

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It’s easy for them to forget H.W Bush. He actually was a somewhat decent President unlike Reagan and W. Bush.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:27:45am

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

Spicer said Trump captured more electoral votes (306 won, 304 received) than any Republican since Reagan. George H.W. Bush won 426 in 1988.]

Irrelevant. His version is the operative truth now.

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S'latch  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:27:52am

Did the press show up today? Were there any tough questions?

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:27:54am
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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:28:20am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:28:20am

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah, I was going say, Bush’s victory in ‘88 was pretty damn near a landslide.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:28:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:29:47am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I was going say, Bush’s victory in ‘88 was pretty damn near a landslide.

He had a higher percentage of the popular vote than Reagan in ‘80 too. But Republicans think Reagan was their only President before Trump. As I said H.W Bush actually was somewhat decent so I can see why they forget about him.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:30:00am

re: #74 darthstar

“By law he can’t have conflicts” - they interpret that to mean that there are no possible conflicts…it means the opposite.

“‘To Serve Man’ is a cookbook?!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:31:18am

re: #96 A wild WITHAK appeared!

“‘To Serve Man’ is a cookbook?!”

I still love the Simpsons parody of that episode especially for the line- “Look, you’ve made Serak the Preparer cry.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:32:02am

DAY 2

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:32:25am

This was announced earlier today on Corporate TV

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:33:43am

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

DAY 2

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Sure Sean, anything is possible except your boss being in cahoots with Putin or that he likes pee-pee.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:34:12am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

He had a higher percentage of the popular vote than Reagan in ‘80 too. But Republicans think Reagan was their only President before Trump. As I said H.W Bush actually was somewhat decent so I can see why they forget about him.

He also had the gall to shut down a big percentage of military bases around the country in order to realign Defense with the collapse of the Cold War. That was anathema to the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:34:15am

#Anything‘spossible, Sean Spicer secretly loves Dippin’ Dots

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:34:36am

I’m just going to repost this terrifyingly prescient 2012 comment from Shiplord Kirel, which is quite possibly the best description ever for what we’re seeing from Spicer/Conway/etc:

Many years ago, I read an article about a missionary who went to New Guinea to work with some barely contacted tribes. The culture of one of these tribes was such that they openly admired lying and treachery. When the preacher told them the story of Judas’s betrayal, for example, they responded with a low whistle of admiration.

I don’t know whether this missionary’s tale was true, but it rather reminds me of the Lubbock Republicans: They are, themselves, pathological liars. They have little regard for education and knowledge because they can simply invent whatever “facts” they require, rather than working hard to acquire them. They apparently think this is a good thing, a sign of power and status. The only reason they dislike being called liars is the implication that they aren’t getting away with it. If you call them out, you haven’t impugned their honesty, you have impugned their skill and power. It therefore does no good to prove to them that Mitt is lying, they actually admire him for it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:35:12am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:35:26am

re: #101 Rocky-in-Connecticut

He also had the gall to shut down a big percentage of military bases around the country in order to realign Defense with the collapse of the Cold War. That was anathema to the GOP.

I have a soft spot for him for signing the Americans With Disabilities Act and Clean Air Act. Don’t like how he ran his campaign against Dukakis but I’ve become an admirer of his since I’ve learned more.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:35:55am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

With all due respect, Ford has a pretty good name. Ford cars are quite popular here in the Czech Republic. We have two Ford dealerships here in Ostrava and they do quite well - I teach at one of them, the repair and service guys.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:36:04am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:36:31am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

This was announced earlier today on Corporate TV

.@Ford hires @Apple ‘brand expert’ to build its global automobile and mobility brand detne.ws

Does that mean you can only fill a new Ford with a Ford gas hose?

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:37:18am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Does that mean you can only fill a coming Ford with a Ford gas hose?

It’ll only run on Ford approved roads. But it will go really fast on them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:37:21am

re: #107 FormerDirtDart

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Trump: I have to nominate people for those too? Man, why can’t I just go on Twitter. No one cares about the Undersecretary of Whatever!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:39:02am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is why I am rather depressed. You can’t argue with them using facts and you can’t punch them in the face.

I am really afraid that people are going to get killed - not counting those who are likely die of causes that could easily be prevented - but I mean people getting actively killed as a result of this rather casual approach to facts, causality and justice.

It’s pretty much a fait accompli. This is just not going to end peacefully.

The United States is fated to fall apart.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:39:06am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:39:33am

Is there any real reason to attend another press conference?

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ipsos  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:39:34am

re: #109 Belafon

It’ll only run on Ford approved roads. But it will go really fast on them.

Until they roll out Road 8.0, at which point your Ford 7.0 will need to be replaced because it’s no longer compatible.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:40:51am

re: #113 Decatur Deb

Is there any real reason to attend another press conference?

I’ve always wanted to get to ask the circus acts questions.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:41:17am

re: #113 Decatur Deb

Is there any real reason to attend another press conference?

Only if you really enjoyed Alvin and the Chipmunks.

re: #37 S’latch

He sounds like someone sped up the playback on his voice. He’s like an annoying, lying chipmunk.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:41:28am

re: #114 ipsos

Until they roll out Road 8.0, at which point your Ford 7.0 will need to be replaced because it’s no longer compatible.

We tell these jokes about GM products.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:41:31am

re: #114 ipsos

Until they roll out Road 8.0, at which point your Ford 7.0 will need to be replaced because it’s no longer compatible.

I still have an old Apple iPhone 3gs. Damn thing still works…..as long as you’re only making phone calls or sending/receiving text messages. I can go on the ‘net with WiFi, but that’s pretty much the limit. It’s just a spare phone in case my current phone (Samsung Galaxy III) bites the dust.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:41:45am

re: #91 lawhawk

That’s a really dumb comment from Yglesias. None of these people are going to quit, and it’s stupid to even suggest it. They’re having the time of their lives, destroying everything good about the US.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:42:46am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

I still have an old Apple iPhone 3gs. Damn thing still works…..as long as you’re only making phone calls or sending/receiving text messages. I can go on the ‘net with WiFi, but that’s pretty much the limit. It’s just a spare phone in case my current phone (Samsung Galaxy III) bites the dust.

I have a black phone with buttons. I don’t know who made it.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:43:15am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:44:46am

Looks like President Von Clownstick is going to make all federal employees sign NDAs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:44:52am

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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This isn’t good.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:44:54am

National Weather Service will be permitted to mail you that tornado warning, but not using the USPS.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:45:12am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like President Von Clownstick is going to make all federal employees sign NDAs.

I’ve never been more glad that I didn’t get a federal job.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:45:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:45:14am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

I have a black phone with buttons. I don’t know who made it.

One phone that’s taken off in popularity here is Honor (made by Hauwei, IIRC). Good smartphone, Android OS; a few of my students use them, and they swear by it. HTC is also pretty popular here as well. Apple is nice, but it’s definitely for the rich here; it’s not for the average Jan or Jana, that’s for sure.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:45:58am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:46:13am

Looks like it’s time for all federal employees to emulate Deep Throat.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:47:07am

re: #129 jaunte

Looks like it’s time for all federal employees to emulate Deep Throat.

I honestly don’t even see how that would survive a challenge in front of SCOTUS.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:47:12am

re: #129 jaunte

Looks like it’s time for all federal employees to emulate Deep Throat.

Every reporter in DC, and throughout the country for that matter, I bet could find a few new friends right now.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:47:14am

re: #1 Myron Falwell

This is called “returning government to the people.”

//

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:47:17am

re: #129 jaunte

Looks like it’s time for all federal employees to emulate Deep Throat.

I’m assuming you don’t mean the movie.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:47:36am

re: #129 jaunte

Looks like it’s time for all federal employees to emulate Deep Throat.

Will there be a journalist in the parking garage?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:48:06am
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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:48:08am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

I almost put a “Watergate” in there, but we could use every smile possible.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:48:54am

Man they sure showed us big government elites! /

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Tarkloon  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:48:54am

live stream recording not available — you might want to replace it.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:49:02am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:50:03am

re: #121 Charles Johnson

WASHINGTON ― Multiple federal agencies have told their employees to cease communications with members of Congress and the press, sources have told The Huffington Post.

This is bizarre, part eleventy.

Our office has already talked with GOP members of the Hill, for instance. Have no idea what this stupid requirement is supposed to mean.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:50:09am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

This isn’t good.

Yup. Getting closer and closer to the inevitable violent reaction.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:50:22am

“You, dear journalists, are the hostages as long as you play the game of the neo-fascists now running the country. I am well aware that “fascism” is an overused word but all its variants share two characteristics: The regime communicates one way, and it lies, and lies about having lied, and doesn’t care what you think.

Journalists, these are times that try not only your souls but your acumen, your professionalism, your fidelity to truth and your courage.”
billmoyers.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:51:06am

re: #135 Charles Johnson

There is no way I would ever punch a Nazi. An idea must be met with a better idea. A speech must be met with a better speech. An act of violence must be met with a 12 gauge in the face.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:51:26am

Trying to explain who these people are and what they’re capable of to the layperson is not possible for me. No one I talk to knows who any of these people are and things are so complicated I end up looking like a rambling idiot. Even more so.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:52:09am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

That lazy horn only works once a month anyways.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:52:39am

re: #141 Myron Falwell

Yup. Getting closer and closer to the inevitable violent reaction.

I’ve never been more worried for our country’s future.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:53:24am

re: #144 MAGATARD PRIME

Trying to explain who these people are and what they’re capable of to the layperson is not possible for me. No one I talk to knows who any of these people are and things are so complicated I end up looking like a rambling idiot. Even more so.

Before the election, I was afraid of coming off as a crazy alarmist to the less politically informed among my friends and family.

No longer.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:53:28am

re: #140 Sir John Barron

This is bizarre, part eleventy.

Our office has already talked with GOP members of the Hill, for instance. Have no idea what this stupid requirement is supposed to mean.

The no public communication thing seems to be idiosyncratic, for some agencies and not for others, for some types of publication and communications and not for others.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:53:37am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

There is no way I would ever punch a Nazi. An idea must be met with a better idea. A speech must be met with a better speech. An act of violence must be met with a 12 gauge in the face.

Pacifist to a point.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:54:02am

re: #144 MAGATARD PRIME

Trying to explain who these people are and what they’re capable of to the layperson is not possible for me. No one I talk to knows who any of these people are and things are so complicated I end up looking like a rambling idiot. Even more so.

One of my students has glommed onto it. I showed her a vid clip of Alex Jones having one of his meltdowns, and I said, “You wanna know who votes for Trump? There you go.” She concluded that what we’re seeing among RWNJ’s is essentially a type of mass hysteria, something akin to a “mental virus” (as she put it) that seizes control of the mind.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:54:56am

re: #149 wrenchwench

Pacifist to a point.

We all have our little quirks.

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calochortus  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:55:20am

re: #142 jaunte

“You, dear journalists, are the hostages as long as you play the game of the neo-fascists now running the country. I am well aware that “fascism” is an overused word but all its variants share two characteristics: The regime communicates one way, and it lies, and lies about having lied, and doesn’t care what you think.

Journalists, these are times that try not only your souls but your acumen, your professionalism, your fidelity to truth and your courage.”
billmoyers.com

Which is why throwing the White House Press Corps out of the White House might not be such a bad idea in the long run. They might have to do some investigating rather than hanging around seeing what Spicer and friends have to say, and maintaining access at all costs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:55:31am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

There is no way I would ever punch a Nazi. An idea must be met with a better idea. A speech must be met with a better speech. An act of violence must be met with a 12 gauge in the face.

The Nazi idea was already met with war crimes tribunals.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:55:59am
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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:56:12am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

We all have our little quirks.

So long as they’re kept out of the hands of children.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:57:02am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

The Nazi idea was already met with war crimes tribunals.

Sadly, no. All or most of the ideologues walked, unless they were caught bloody.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:57:44am

America is the land of second chances.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:57:50am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Sadly, no. All or most of the ideologues walked, unless they were caught bloody.

So we punch them. Fuck their “ideas”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:58:30am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I’ve never been more worried for our country’s future.

Time and time again, these governments fail spectacularly and with horrific results. 1791 France. 1793 France. 1917 Russia. 1959 Cuba. 1990 Romania. 1991 Yugoslavia.

The worry — and the fury — is palpable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:58:49am

I am reading that the CIA is worried if they get damaging info on Putin, they’re worried Trump may compromise them. This is some serious shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:59:00am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

So we punch them. Fuck their “ideas”

The Freepers are just as passionate about you and me.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:59:22am

Spicer and his babbling are the distraction from Trump and his cronies destroying this country.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:59:29am

re: #159 Myron Falwell

Time and time again, these governments fail spectacularly and with horrific results. 1791 France. 1793 France. 1917 Russia. 1959 Cuba. 1990 Romania. 1991 Yugoslavia.

The worry — and the fury — is palpable.

Right and I’m especially worried since I live near D.C. I also can’t see Trump leaving willingly.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:00:02pm

re: #139 jaunte

No, we need more puff pieces on Ivanka and Uday.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:00:16pm

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

Spicer and his babbling are the distraction from Trump and his cronies destroying this country.

HEnce my 160. Trump bellyaching about alleged fraud is definitely meant to distract people from what he’s actually doing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:01:16pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Right and I’m especially worried since I live near D.C. I also can’t see Trump leaving willingly.

That’s certainly occurred to me. Let’s say he loses in 2020 - what are the odds he’s gonna step down peacefully? Is the military gonna have to get involved (God forbid)? What would the GOP do?

Scary times.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:01:44pm

re: #4 Myron Falwell

For all of those I argued with on Facebook about why I want Trump to fail… this is why.

I have nothing but absolute contempt towards him and his cronies, and look forward to his inevitable destruction and ruination.

I will not cry at his funeral.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:01:46pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Fox News: See how hard DT is working? He’s working really hard.

///

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:02:36pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

HEnce my 160. Trump bellyaching about alleged fraud is definitely meant to distract people from what he’s actually doing.

and to allow him to continue on through 2020 even should he lose re-election.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:04:44pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Right and I’m especially worried since I live near D.C. I also can’t see Trump leaving willingly.

Neither do I. This has nothing but abject disaster written all over it.

Bannon wants to destroy the federal government, and he may be more effective than even he expected. But that comes at a cost… as a vacuum ultimately emerges.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:04:53pm

Bad Hombre National Park:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:05:12pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

That’s certainly occurred to me. Let’s say he loses in 2020 - what are the odds he’s gonna step down peacefully? Is the military gonna have to get involved (God forbid)? What would the GOP do?

Scary times.

Yeah honestly I just don’t know. With Bush, you knew he’d respect the transition of power. I never feared Bush declaring Martial Law or anything like that to keep power.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:05:39pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

I hope they have their Underground Badlands account ready to go.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:05:50pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Bad Hombre National Park:

I don’t think DT approved this public communication.
/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:05:52pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Bad Hombre National Park:

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Resist.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:06:30pm

re: #173 jaunte

I hope they have their Underground Badlands account ready to go.

Bad Hombre Nasty Park. (@)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:06:40pm

Hey people who complain about PC police, here’s Trump literally telling federal employees they can’t share information with the public.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:06:59pm

re: #159 Myron Falwell

Time and time again, these governments fail spectacularly and with horrific results. 1791 France. 1793 France. 1917 Russia. 1959 Cuba. 1990 Romania. 1991 Yugoslavia.

The worry — and the fury — is palpable.

I remember Romania in particular. Nikolae Ceausescu sang the Internationale while he and his wife Elena waited to be shot. Madame Ceausescu’s final words to the firing squad were reportedly, “Boys, I was like a mother to you!”
Unimpressed with either performance, the soldiers shot them anyway. There were reportedly hundreds of volunteers for the firing squad.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:07:01pm

As perverse as it is, I’d think there should be some newspapers salivating at the prospects of a new Deep Throat, Pentagon Papers, etc. A smart paper would try to get out in front of this ASAP before the number of serious crimes or horrific policies revealed through anonymous leakers starts numbing the public.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:07:16pm

My parents have both started paying attention more. Proud of them.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:08:05pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

I remember Romania in particular. Nikolae Ceausescu sang the Internationale while he and his wife Elena waited to be shot. Madame Ceausescu’s final words to the firing squad were reportedly, “Boys, I was like a mother to you!”
Unimpressed with either performance, the soldiers shot them anyway. There were reportedly hundreds of volunteers for the firing squad.

Everybody wants to be a critic.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:08:14pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

I remember Romania in particular. Nikolae Ceausescu sang the Internationale while he and his wife Elena waited to be shot. Madame Ceausescu’s final words to the firing squad were reportedly, “Boys, I was like a mother to you!”
Unimpressed with either performance, the soldiers shot them anyway. There were reportedly hundreds of volunteers for the firing squad.

The thing I remember reading most about that is Romania immediately abolished the death penalty after that. Nicolae and Elena were a special case for them I guess.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:08:15pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

I remember Romania in particular. Nikolae Ceausescu sang the Internationale while he and his wife Elena waited to be shot. Madame Ceausescu’s final words to the firing squad were reportedly, “Boys, I was like a mother to you!”
Unimpressed with either performance, the soldiers shot them anyway. There were reportedly hundreds of volunteers for the firing squad.

From what I recall reading about that one, once those two got outside and more or less positioned in front of the wall, the firing squad just starting blasting away.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:08:40pm

Shocka… states are calling for federal assistance following the devastating storms that ripped through parts of the country and getting *crickets* in return:

These are states with GOP governors and they’re fucked. Trump’s too busy gutting the government to care what happens to the people who voted for him. Seriously. You think that tax cut he’s dangling will ever cover the costs of rebuilding your home after one of these storms? Or cover your medical costs now that GOP/Trump’s busy undoing Obamacare?

Nope - you’re on your own.

Surprise! The #GOPDontCare.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:09:24pm

re: #183 Dr Lizardo

From what I recall reading about that one, once those two got outside and more or less positioned in front of the wall, the firing squad just starting blasting away.

I didn’t know it until later but Romania was apparently one of the “good communists” that we tolerated. I

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:09:47pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Shocka… states are calling for federal assistance following the devastating storms that ripped through parts of the country and getting *crickets* in return:

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These are states with GOP governors and they’re fucked. Trump’s too busy gutting the government to care what happens to the people who voted for him. Seriously. You think that tax cut he’s dangling will ever cover the costs of rebuilding your home after one of these storms? Or cover your medical costs now that GOP/Trump’s busy undoing Obamacare?

Nope - you’re on your own.

Surprise! The #GOPDontCare.

Off to a great start!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:10:23pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

That’s certainly occurred to me. Let’s say he loses in 2020 - what are the odds he’s gonna step down peacefully? Is the military gonna have to get involved (God forbid)? What would the GOP do?

Scary times.

Actually I’m more scared that the transfer of power will occur well before 2020, and it won’t be anywhere near a peaceful one.

With enough anger at the GOP… and their callous disregard for a clear majority of the people… something is going to snap.

I hope I’m wrong, but I fear deep down in my heart that it’s the likely outcome.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:11:05pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Obama’s fault.

///

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:11:58pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know it until later but Romania was apparently one of the “good communists” that we tolerated. I

Ceausescu refused to participate in the ‘68 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia; he got some cred from the West as result - here too, to be fair. A lot of Czechs still recall that at least on that matter, he was on the right side of history.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:13:02pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

I think about that because a classmate of mine fled from Romania with his family just as the Ceausescu Regime shattered. The father got a visa and managed to sneak them into the US.

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:13:30pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

I mentioned an old comment of yours upthread - you should expand on it and turn it into a Page, because it’s exponentially more relevant now than when you first wrote it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

Is there any real reason to attend another press conference?

Entertainment. It will be fun to bait the bear with Trump’s latest insane comments.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:14:13pm

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

Ceausescu refused to participate in the ‘68 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia; he got some cred from the West as result - here too, to be fair. A lot of Czechs still recall that at least on that matter, he was on the right side of history.

So was Hoxha in Albania. But yeah I’m familiar with the Prague Spring aftermath. I really should ask my cousins who I’ve made contact with that still live or lived in Slovakia during the Cold War what that was like. Unfortunately none of those are left that were alive in WWII. I really would love to know how my family members responded to both situations. I like to think they did the right thing.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:14:14pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know it until later but Romania was apparently one of the “good communists” that we tolerated. I

Ceausescu was praised in the west for his relative independence from the Soviet line. Among other things, Romania was the only communist country that did not break off relations with Chile after the Pinochet coup and in fact had a fairly cordial and mutually profitable relationship with that gang.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:14:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:15:08pm

re: #194 Shiplord Kirel

Ceausescu was praised in the west for his relative independence from the Soviet line. Among other things, Romania was the only communist country that did not break off relations with Chile after the Pinochet coup and in fact had a fairly cordial and mutually profitable relationship with that gang.

Yeah that’s right.

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calochortus  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:15:13pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Shocka… states are calling for federal assistance following the devastating storms that ripped through parts of the country and getting *crickets* in return:

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These are states with GOP governors and they’re fucked. Trump’s too busy gutting the government to care what happens to the people who voted for him. Seriously. You think that tax cut he’s dangling will ever cover the costs of rebuilding your home after one of these storms? Or cover your medical costs now that GOP/Trump’s busy undoing Obamacare?

Nope - you’re on your own.

Surprise! The #GOPDontCare.

I saw an interview last night where the official specifically said they didn’t need money, they needed equipment and people to help right now.
The free market doesn’t seem to be working well for this situation.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:15:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:17:24pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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Seeing that Warner and Kaine voted for Pompeo. Sigh. Rand Paul was actually on the correct side of that one.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:17:50pm

The GOP is intent on blinding the public.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:18:02pm

re: #167 I Would Prefer Not To

I will not cry at his funeral.

Neither will I. It will be a day of much jubilation when it comes.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:18:24pm

re: #195 jaunte

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:19:26pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:20:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:20:20pm

re: #203 jaunte

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But how can that be. The earth is only 5000 years old. /

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:20:21pm

re: #195 jaunte

TBH, I’d take that over an a-bomb any day.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:21:05pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Easy info to ignore, right?

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:21:59pm
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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:22:02pm

Evergreen:

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:22:11pm

Hey does anyone have that graphic handy of health insurance coverage the MN GOP is taking away? Can’t find it all of a sudden, and can’t remember who first posted it…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:23:46pm

Relates to my newest page
littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:24:41pm

re: #208 Kragar

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County is 67% black and overwhelmingly went for Clinton.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:24:48pm

re: #210 Interesting Times

Hey does anyone have that graphic handy of health insurance coverage the MN GOP is taking away? Can’t find it all of a sudden, and can’t remember who first posted it…

GOP controls the House in MN? At least there’s a Dem gov there.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:25:56pm

re: #200 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The GOP is intent on blinding the public.

Blinding and lead poisoning. Damn, we put undersink reverse osmosis on our sinks. Can’t trust the water anymore. Normally I’d joke just drink beer instead but this has gotten beyond funny.

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austin_blue  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:27:01pm

Now this is funny. The view from across the pond:

The Inauguration of Trump: Pie Reacts.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:27:24pm

re: #213 Sir John Barron

GOP controls the House in MN? At least there’s a Dem gov there.

The Gov is stepping down at the end of his term due to his ongoing health.

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:27:36pm

re: #49 scottslemmons

Congress? Demanding answers from Trump? He’s giving them everything they’ve every wanted. He’s going to kill the ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and every possible government entity. He could shoot a dozen Republican legislators, melt down the Statue of Liberty, blow up Mt. Rushmore, and openly declare himself the leader of the new Fourth Reich, and they’d give him the Trump Medal for Maximum Trumpy Trump.

Congress is, trust me, ecstatic about this.

There is a certain kind of sadism & malefic glee that has set in with the RWNJs. They just want to hurt & smash things. They’ve spent the last 8 years being told that they are the biggest victims, the most put-upon people EVAR in the history of the planet. Now all that pent-up frustration, anger & hatred is getting its release.

This is a government organized according to the principles of a vicious toddler set loose in a pen of helpless baby chicks with a big iron mallet.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:28:06pm

re: #192 Big Beautiful Door

Entertainment. It will be fun to bait the bear with Trump’s latest insane comments.

This has gone beyond entertainment and into absolute anger and fury.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:28:12pm

A thought: Someone with money and/or time ought to start an aggregate news service collecting articles and information on the various things that we know Trump is doing, and lying about. That way, we can go to that one place to get links on information. It would need to be searchable.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:28:50pm

re: #216 Citizen K

The Gov is stepping down at the end of his term due to his ongoing health.

seriously? Ugh. Hopefully Dems can find a successful replacement.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:28:56pm

re: #191 Interesting Times

I mentioned an old comment of yours upthread - you should expand on it and turn it into a Page, because it’s exponentially more relevant now than when you first wrote it.

Done, and many thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:29:43pm

re: #215 austin_blue

Now this is funny. The view from across the pond:

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Video

Well done.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:30:05pm
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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:30:42pm

This WP article helped me understand the TPP, NAFTA and other group trading deals:

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:30:45pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Poor baby.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:32:19pm

re: #216 Citizen K

The Gov is stepping down at the end of his term due to his ongoing health.

He turns 70 this week, and had no plans to run again regardless of this latest health scare.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:32:19pm

re: #224 retired cynic

This WP article helped me understand the TPP, NAFTA and other group trading deals:

washingtonpost.com

Thanks. I honestly thought a lot of the talk about TPP by both Sanders/Trump was too hyperbolic but I didn’t understand the implications.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:32:35pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Poor baby.

I really linked it for the “okay, it’s been more than 280 characters, we can speak freely now” bit.

Made me laugh.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:32:37pm

National Security Emergency, coming right up!

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:33:22pm

What if this account that is simply half an onion in a Ziploc bag ended up with more followers than @realDonaldTrump

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:36:18pm

re: #229 jaunte

National Security Emergency, coming right up!

And here’s their possible choice: Keep their job, or release information. Like I said, the press is going to need to find some of these people to become friends with.

Edit: And I’m not sure I want Trump being able to replace these people.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:36:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:37:13pm

re: #231 nines09

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I don’t get that either. He’s simply not qualified for that job.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:37:14pm

re: #167 I Would Prefer Not To

I will not cry at his funeral.

Burning incense with great joy would be appropriate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:38:37pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

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I’m going to be in Germany this summer. I’m going to see if I can get a feel if the alt-right propaganda is working there. The Germans and French are key to keeping up the hope.

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calochortus  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:38:58pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Thanks. I honestly thought a lot of the talk about TPP by both Sanders/Trump was too hyperbolic but I didn’t understand the implications.

I’ve noticed a few interviews here and there from CA farmers-generally a pretty conservative group-who are really concerned about the trade deals because so much of the almond/alfalfa/whatever crop ends up in other countries, often China.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:39:54pm

re: #237 calochortus

I’ve noticed a few interviews here and there from CA farmers-generally a pretty conservative group-who are really concerned about the trade deals because so much of the almond/alfalfa/whatever crop ends up in other countries, often China.

Well remember until Trump, conservatives were with some exception pretty open to trade. In fact, I believe Trump was the only GOP candidate against TPP.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:39:58pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I’m going to be in Germany this summer. I’m going to see if I can get a feel if the alt-right propaganda is working there. The Germans and French are key to keeping up the hope.

I’ve got German colleagues with whom I work on a regular basis. Politics has never come up, but I’m really curious what they think of the shitshow here, and what’s going on in their country.

If I can swing a business trip there this spring, I’ll try to crack that topic over beers…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:40:13pm

Here is Trump’s alleged shortlist for the Supreme Court. According to the article, William Pryor is losing favor, apparently because he joined in an opinion finding that the transgendered are entitled to equal protection, despite having once penned a brief arguing that sodomy should remain illegal.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:40:14pm

Thing is this is a more global economy than ever.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:40:38pm

re: #240 Big Beautiful Door

Here is Trump’s alleged shortlist for the Supreme Court. According to the article, William Pryor is losing favor, apparently because he joined in an opinion finding that the transgendered are entitled to equal protection, despite having once penned a brief arguing that sodomy should remain illegal.

God if Pryor isn’t wingnutty enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:41:30pm

re: #239 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I’ve got German colleagues with whom I work on a regular basis. Politics has never come up, but I’m really curious what they think of the shitshow here, and what’s going on in their country.

If I can swing a business trip there this spring, I’ll try to crack that topic over beers…

I’m not going to go out of my way to talk politics but I know my brother and I will be asked about Trump. I was asked about Obama when I was in Ireland the first summer Obama was President.

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nines09  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:41:50pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

He’s a stooge who will sign anything put in front of him. Just like all the others. There are so many battles ahead, I’m not sure Warren could stop it all. But still….
And she released a statement….”He’s pledged”…..That’s worth about a shit

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Khal Wimpo (no longer entitled to his own facts)  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:43:57pm

re: #237 calochortus

I’ve noticed a few interviews here and there from CA farmers-generally a pretty conservative group-who are really concerned about the trade deals because so much of the almond/alfalfa/whatever crop ends up in other countries, often China.

That’ll be interesting. The almond/cashew farmers have amazing powers of almost-dictatorial control over California state policy. They’re located in deep-red counties as well.

Should be interesting to see if the R-CA congresscritters react when their phones start melting down from the big-money donors. Might start to see some pushback from the Farm Belt states when the well-heeled agribusiness interests see billions in sales put in peril by Trump.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:44:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:44:51pm

re: #244 nines09

He’s a stooge who will sign anything put in front of him. Just like all the others. There are so many battles ahead, I’m not sure Warren could stop it all. But still….
And she released a statement….”He’s pledged”…..That’s worth about a shit

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Yeah I know she couldn’t stop it but a vote against would still have been nice. I won’t hold it against her since there are more important battles but her reasoning is something I disagree with.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:45:48pm

re: #4 Myron Falwell

I want him to live at least another 20 years with the stench of failure and humiliation following him everywhere he goes, like Pigpen from “Peanuts” if Pigpen were an evil, incompetent fascist narcissist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:47:09pm

Not going to Switzerland guys as I originally planned to. Not enough time but we’re going to Berchtesgaden, Munich, Nuremberg, Colditz, Berlin, Amsterdam, and Bruges. Was a little disappointed that I couldn’t squeeze in my great grandpa’s town of birth but maybe that’ll come some other time. I’d love to do an ancestry tour someday. But it will still be fun because the historical sites we’re going to visit are what we’re interested in.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:47:51pm

re: #231 nines09

What the fuck is wrong with Congressional Democrats? Party lines votes against Trump’s cabinet of horrors would seem to be no-brainers, and this isn’t happening?!?!??

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:48:15pm

I want the GOP to have to own Trump for the next generation and beyond. They continue to harp on about Reagan. Well you know Trump now too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:48:37pm

re: #111 Myron Falwell

It’s pretty much a fait accompli. This is just not going to end peacefully.

The United States is fated to fall apart.

I see that you share my degree of optimism

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Franklin  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:49:29pm
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calochortus  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:49:47pm

BBL

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:49:52pm

re: #237 calochortus

I’ve noticed a few interviews here and there from CA farmers-generally a pretty conservative group-who are really concerned about the trade deals because so much of the almond/alfalfa/whatever crop ends up in other countries, often China.

Absent TPP, there’s a chance that trade with China will be drastically altered by the ratification of RCEP. RCEP covers most of the Pacific Rim, plus India—30% of the world economy—and its terms basically make China the big wheel in the region’s market, and the regions legal disputations.

RCEP has been in the works for awhile, but was not as solid as the TPP—the two weren’t in direction competition, either. But now that there’s zero TPP, RCEP is the new standard that all of South, SE, and East Asia, plus Australasia, is inclining towards.

That’s 30% of the world economy wrapped together with lowered tariffs, but with no rules about environmental regulation or safety regulation of industry, nor any guarantees regard labor rights (all of which the TPP had to some degree)…and America is currently 100% on the outside. Can the current admin actually assemble a deal (note: these multi-state trade negotiations generally take several years) that’s advantageous to us?

So your farmers have a lot to be worried about.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:49:58pm

re: #244 nines09

He’s a stooge who will sign anything put in front of him. Just like all the others. There are so many battles ahead, I’m not sure Warren could stop it all. But still….
And she released a statement….”He’s pledged”…..That’s worth about a shit

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Well its not like Trump would appoint a good replacement, and Warren couldn’t block his confirmation anyway.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:50:07pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I’m going to be in Germany this summer. I’m going to see if I can get a feel if the alt-right propaganda is working there. The Germans and French are key to keeping up the hope.

Unfortunately, I can see it working in the former DDR - that seems to be the hotbed of the German alt-right, and especially the area around Dresden. I don’t know about the former West Germany.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:51:25pm

Badlands National Park is having none of Trump’s EPA lockdown bullshit

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:51:36pm

re: #257 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, I can see it working in the former DDR - that seems to be the hotbed of the German alt-right, and especially the area around Dresden. I don’t know about the former West Germany.

Is that right? I’m mostly going to be in former West Germany outside the trip to Colditz and Berlin.

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Interesting Times  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:52:26pm

re: #256 Big Beautiful Door

Well its not like Trump would appoint a good replacement, and Warren couldn’t block his confirmation anyway.

Er…all the more reason to vote against it as symbolic protest, if nothing else? What possible advantage could voting in favor have? She’s up for re-election in 2018, midterms are low-turnout/base elections by nature, so…do something that only serves to piss off your own base??

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:52:31pm

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

Ceausescu refused to participate in the ‘68 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia; he got some cred from the West as result - here too, to be fair. A lot of Czechs still recall that at least on that matter, he was on the right side of history.

That was one of the things he referred to during his last public speech before the crowd started shouting him down.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:52:37pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know she couldn’t stop it but a vote against would still have been nice. I won’t hold it against her since there are more important battles but her reasoning is something I disagree with.

Important battles?

All these battles are important. There isn’t some fallback where all of sudden the vote suddenly matters.

Carson is stunningly unprepared and unqualified for the position. If not now, when?!

Tillerson and all the rest are likewise unprepared, unqualified, have conflicts/ethics issues, and they’re getting rubber stamped by the GOP. There’s no reason to rubber stamp your approval on them either.

Unqualified is unqualified no matter how much or how fast the GOP rubber stamps them.

The GOP spent years obstructing Obama’s nominees for the federal bench and Garland; they didn’t stop. Now, they get to fill all those positions and the Democrats have no options? Time to figure out where the line is drawn, because the GOP is busy rewriting history as I type.

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ericblair  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:53:02pm

Okay, everybody who thought a week ago we would be in a multi-day pissing contest about obvious lies about the size of the inauguration crowd, and have the new meme “alternate facts” straight from the shitgibbon’s spokesmonster, please raise your hands.

That’s what I thought.

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nines09  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:53:13pm

All I can think is it’s such a massive pile of shit you have to pick your battles. I feel like Trump has been in office much longer than FOUR FUCKING DAYS.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:53:37pm

re: #258 Kragar

Badlands National Park is having none of Trump’s EPA lockdown bullshit

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Whoever tweets for the Park is brave. Maybe he or she is about to retire and decided to go out with a truth telling bang.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:53:44pm

re: #262 lawhawk

Important battles?

All these battles are important. There isn’t some fallback where all of sudden the vote suddenly matters.

Carson is stunningly unprepared and unqualified for the position. If not now, when?!

Tillerson and all the rest are likewise unprepared, unqualified, have conflicts/ethics issues, and they’re getting rubber stamped by the GOP. There’s no reason to rubber stamp your approval on them either.

Unqualified is unqualified no matter how much or how fast the GOP rubber stamps them.

The GOP spent years obstructing Obama’s nominees for the federal bench and Garland; they didn’t stop. Now, they get to fill all those positions and the Democrats have no options? Time to figure out where the line is drawn, because the GOP is busy rewriting history as I type.

True that.

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Moebym  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:53:52pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

“Some men just want to watch the world burn.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:54:16pm

re: #264 nines09

All I can think is it’s such a massive pile of shit you have to pick your battles. I feel like Trump has been in office much longer than FOUR FUCKING DAYS.

I know. It’s hard to believe that this time last week Obama was still President. Man it’s going to be a long next four years.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:54:26pm

re: #250 EPR-radar

What the fuck is wrong with Congressional Democrats? Party lines votes against Trump’s cabinet of horrors would seem to be no-brainers, and this isn’t happening?!?!??

This shit is not difficult. For example, each Congressional Democrat could put out a single statement saying “I will be pleased to cooperate with the Trump Administration on anything that is truly in the general interest of the American people, and I’ll vote no on everything else.”

Then vote no on everything and explain why.

If a miracle happens and the Republicans come up with something worth voting for, vote yes and explain why.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:55:01pm

re: #258 Kragar

Badlands National Park is having none of Trump’s EPA lockdown bullshit

TREASON! Arrest!!!

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:55:23pm

re: #264 nines09

All I can think is it’s such a massive pile of shit you have to pick your battles. I feel like Trump has been in office much longer than FOUR FUCKING DAYS.

Watch your language.

FOUR PISSING DAYS.

re: #263 ericblair

Okay, everybody who thought we would be in a multi-day pissing contest about obvious lies about the size of the inauguration crowd, and have the new meme “alternate facts” straight from the shitgibbon’s spokesmonster, please raise your hands.

That’s what I thought.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:55:40pm

re: #260 Interesting Times

Er…all the more reason to vote against it as symbolic protest, if nothing else? What possible advantage could voting in favor have? She’s up for re-election in 2018, midterms are low-turnout/base elections by nature, so…do something that only serves to piss off your own base??

Well it gave her an opportunity to state what she expects from Carson, so when he fails she can hold him accountable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:55:41pm

I have to say I got a kick out of what an extremely far left friend posted about the fascists. “Call us snowflake but want an entire country just for people like them.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:55:58pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Is that right? I’m mostly going to be in former West Germany outside the trip to Colditz and Berlin.

Berlin’s cool. I lived in Kreuzberg in a WG (Wohngemeinschaft). Good times.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:56:32pm

re: #264 nines09

All I can think is it’s such a massive pile of shit you have to pick your battles. I feel like Trump has been in office much longer than FOUR FUCKING DAYS.

All congressional Democrats should vote no on everything as the default position. Picking your battles is pointless if they are all going to be lost, so resist everything.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:57:58pm

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Berlin’s cool. I lived in Kreuzberg in a WG (Wohngemeinschaft). Good times.

Yeah I’ve been to Berlin, Munich, and Heidelberg before. My youngest brother’s a bit of a Germanophile- fourth year of German and really wanted to go. I liked Munich the most. Best food and beer. Our paternal grandfather’s father was from outside Frankfurt. Really wanted to check that out as I said but just not in the cards this time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:58:00pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I’m going to be in Germany this summer. I’m going to see if I can get a feel if the alt-right propaganda is working there. The Germans and French are key to keeping up the hope.

It is starting to creep in here…not enough to win an election, but enough to be felt all over

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:58:17pm

re: #264 nines09

All I can think is it’s such a massive pile of shit you have to pick your battles. I feel like Trump has been in office much longer than FOUR FUCKING DAYS.

Two days!

Sorry, I have to find my snark and humor somewhere in this shitshow.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:58:29pm

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is starting to creep in here…not enough to win an election, but enough to be felt all over

Sounds like the UK in the lead up to Brexit.

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nines09  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:58:56pm

re: #271 wrenchwench

You say Tomato and I say tomato…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:59:02pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

All congressional Democrats should vote no on everything as the default position. Picking your battles is pointless if they are all going to be lost, so resist everything.

Word.

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ericblair  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:59:28pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

All congressional Democrats should vote no on everything as the default position. Picking your battles is pointless if they are all going to be lost, so resist everything.

I wonder if we can get anything from the Democratic staffers about why they do this. Apparently Warren voted for Carson, and nobody thinks Warren is a DINO squish, so what is up here?

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nines09  Jan 24, 2017 • 12:59:42pm

re: #278 Citizen K

Oh. Right. He started Monday. My bad. hard to keep up.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:00:10pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Sounds like the UK in the lead up to Brexit.

In other words, enough to win an election, regardless of what the polls say.

About the only silver lining seems to be that Merkel’s coalition seems to be taking outside involvement a lot more seriously than we have.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:00:31pm

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Oh man VB, that made my day.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:01:38pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Sounds like the UK in the lead up to Brexit.

I’m glad Parliament is going to have to vote on Brexit. It could fail, because now they are going to have to take a vote with real world consequences, just as the Republicans are wavering now that a vote to repeal Obamacare will have real world consequences vooters will hold them accountable for.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:01:53pm

re: #285 Citizen K

In other words, enough to win an election, regardless of what the polls say.

About the only silver lining seems to be that Merkel’s coalition seems to be taking outside involvement a lot more seriously than we have.

They know what could happen in their country better than we do. As I said, it’s going to be interesting this summer. I’m not going to pretend to be Canadian because A) I don’t think I could get away with it and B( I’m not letting that cockwomble make me hide who I am.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:02:18pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:02:57pm

re: #260 Interesting Times

Democrats are proving to be worthless.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:06:29pm

So Tom Cotton who by his own admission literally held up an Obama nominee’s nomination because of his contempt for Obama whined about how Pompeo got treated. Pompeo got confirmed yesterday. Cotton can go eat a bag of dicks along with Bibi and the stupid letter he wrote.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:07:18pm

re: #283 ericblair

I wonder if we can get anything from the Democratic staffers about why they do this. Apparently Warren voted for Carson, and nobody thinks Warren is a DINO squish, so what is up here?

Hearing the reasoning would be interesting, but the fact remains that it is unacceptable for Congressional Democrats to give the Republicans bipartisan cover for anything more substantive than naming post offices.

We are in for a shit show of unprecedented magnitude, and the most important thing of all will be placing the blame for that shit show directly on Trump and the Republicans. Congressional Democrats voting for any of this Trump shit is seriously counter-productive here.

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ericblair  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:07:49pm

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I’m glad Parliament is going to have to vote on Brexit. It could fail, because now they are going to have to take a vote with real world consequences, just as the Republicans are wavering now that a vote to repeal Obamacare will have real world consequences vooters will hold them accountable for.

I wouldn’t get too excited, since Labour under Corbyn is ready to roll over and let May pull the trigger. He’s far left, always been a Eurosceptic, and even though Labour policy is pro-Remain he’s going to order Labour MPs to vote for Leave. The third party, the LibDems, is balls-to-the-wall Remain.

If you think the US Dems are dysfunctional, you ain’t seen nothing.

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nines09  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:08:08pm

Back to chores. Have a great day all. Going to store and going to try not to look like the crowd of slack jawed groupers drifting down the aisles like this…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:10:10pm

Well, goodnight all.

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ericblair  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:11:52pm

re: #288 HappyWarrior

They know what could happen in their country better than we do. As I said, it’s going to be interesting this summer. I’m not going to pretend to be Canadian because A) I don’t think I could get away with it and B( I’m not letting that cockwomble make me hide who I am.

I’m a Yank living in Europe. Don’t worry about self-identifying as American, because people here much more than in America understand assholes like Trump, and understand a good citizenry with a shit government. The protests got a LOT of media coverage.

Funnily enough, Europeans seem a lot more optimistic about Americans than Americans themselves are: they figure we’ll learn our lesson, we’re good at change, and we’ll bounce back.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:12:39pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

So Tom Cotton who by his own admission literally held up an Obama nominee’s nomination because of his contempt for Obama whined about how Pompeo got treated. Pompeo got confirmed yesterday. Cotton can go eat a bag of dicks along with Bibi and the stupid letter he wrote.

My state has done many stupid things, but electing him has to be near the top of the list.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:13:48pm

Of course, it’s not fair that Nazis should have to change anything about their behavior or beliefs just to avoid being punched in the face, but if I knew a Nazi personally, I would hope they would heed this advice. You wouldn’t leave an expensive watch sitting on your driver’s seat and abandon your car, unlocked, on a dark street, would you? And then come up shocked to find the watch gone and your car vandalized? I mean, you can’t go around doing, saying, and believing racist things—like quoting Nazi propaganda and Hitler himself—and then express surprise when someone clocks you in the gourd for it. Not that there is anything inherently unconscionable with doing, saying, and believing racist things!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:14:05pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Germs - What We Do is Secret

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:14:29pm

re: #296 ericblair

I’m a Yank living in Europe. Don’t worry about self-identifying as American, because people here much more than in America understand assholes like Trump, and understand a good citizenry with a shit government. The protests got a LOT of media coverage.

Funnily enough, Europeans seem a lot more optimistic about Americans than Americans themselves are: they figure we’ll learn our lesson, we’re good at change, and we’ll bounce back.

I’m confident we will bounce back as well, assuming Trump doesn’t blow up the world in the next four years.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:14:34pm

re: #296 ericblair

I’m a Yank living in Europe. Don’t worry about self-identifying as American, because people here much more than in America understand assholes like Trump, and understand a good citizenry with a shit government. The protests got a LOT of media coverage.

Funnily enough, Europeans seem a lot more optimistic about Americans than Americans themselves are: they figure we’ll learn our lesson, we’re good at change, and we’ll bounce back.

Yeah I guess I shouldn’t worry that much. I was in Europe one year when Bush was president and never got a hard time. I do like being a rare American though where I am though. I was the only one at my hostel in Portugal when I was there a few years back. Not because I’m ashamed to be American but because I wanted to be unique.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:14:41pm

Remember way back when, when ‘executive overreach’ was on every Republican’s lips?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:14:56pm

re: #297 Arkansawyer

My state has done many stupid things, but electing him has to be near the top of the list.

I understand, we once elected George Allen.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:15:23pm

re: #298 Kragar

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A good way for a Nazi not to be punched in the face? Simple, don’t be a Nazi.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:15:34pm

re: #302 makeitstop

Remember way back when, when ‘executive overreach’ was on every Republican’s lips?

It’s not overreach if we condone it and the GOP controlled legislature rubber stamps it.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:15:50pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

It really is just that simple.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:16:01pm

re: #302 makeitstop

Remember way back when, when ‘executive overreach’ was on every Republican’s lips?

Makes me wonder what our old pal DF is saying now since he acted like Obama’s executive overreach was a legit talking point.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:16:29pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

That’s a really dumb comment from Yglesias. None of these people are going to quit, and it’s stupid to even suggest it. They’re having the time of their lives, destroying everything good about the US.

Don’t be fooled- Bannon in s the guy in charge. Trump thinks he is but Bannon knows how to ride him like a champ. Simply play into Trump’s ego and make any idea you want planted seem to come from Trump himself. Bannon’s vision is not for the simple dismemberment of the US Federal Government. It is for the total and complete makeover of the entire world to fit the right-wing nihilist ideology.

No effective government. LIterally every man for himself. Private security instead of public police forces. No public roads or schools. Every infrastructure project should be made private with usage fees (tolls, etc). Just look what they are going to do with the VA as their test project. Wait for it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:17:27pm

re: #306 Kragar

It really is just that simple.

Allow my friend Dr. Jones to explain.

Nazis,I hate these guys.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:18:14pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:19:40pm

re: #299 Jebediah, RBG

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My college boyfriend drove to Hollywood one night and interviewed that band, sitting in the back of a pickup truck (with a camper shell on it) drinking beer. That was punk. The interview went on the first punk radio show ever, on KUOR.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:21:55pm

Okay, I really feel like watching the Last Crusade tonight or Inglorious Basterds or Raiders of the Lost Ark because damn it I hate Nazis. Seriously though, what kind of fucked up chlidhood do you have when you come to conclude that the Nazis were the good guys?

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:23:21pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Makes me wonder what our old pal DF is saying now since he acted like Obama’s executive overreach was a legit talking point.

I seems to recall a claim by DF here that he wouldn’t vote for Trump in a general election because of Trump’s instability with respect to foreign policy. When push came to shove, that apparently turned into a lie.

The conservative memory hole is always available for use in cases like this where the past is distressing.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:23:23pm

re: #302 makeitstop

Remember way back when, when ‘executive overreach’ was on every Republican’s lips?

Also, “corruption”, “conflict-of-interest”.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:23:30pm

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see that you share my degree of optimism

Some days I feel like I make Sarah Kenzidor look like a source of endless optimism by comparison.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:25:07pm

re: #315 Myron Falwell

Some days I feel like I make Sarah Kenzidor look like a source of endless optimism by comparison.

And the GOP/regime’s endless stream of BS is designed to wear down the opposition too. It’s like facing a Mississippi River flood of BS and you’ve got only a bucket to push back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:25:08pm

re: #313 EPR-radar

I seems to recall a claim by DF here that he wouldn’t vote for Trump in a general election because of Trump’s instability with respect to foreign policy. When push came to shove, that apparently turned into a lie.

The conservative memory hole is always available for use in cases like this where the past is distressing.

Yeah that’s how I recall it too.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:26:27pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Okay, I really feel like watching the Last Crusade tonight or Inglorious Basterds or Raiders of the Lost Ark because damn it I hate Nazis. Seriously though, what kind of fucked up chlidhood do you have when you come to conclude that the Nazis were the good guys?

Nah, you gotta go with the Crossroads episode of Band of Brothers if you want to see some good ole Nazi wreckin’.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:28:09pm

re: #318 Arkansawyer

Nah, you gotta go with the Crossroads episode of Band of Brothers if you want to see some good ole Nazi wreckin’.

Saving Private Ryan - Burn Em Out

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:28:40pm

re: #318 Arkansawyer

Nah, you gotta go with the Crossroads episode of Band of Brothers if you want to see some good ole Nazi wreckin’.

Django Unchained isn’t vs. Nazis, but seeing a bunch of US slave holders get wrecked a la Quentin Tarantino is very satisfying.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:28:53pm

re: #318 Arkansawyer

Nah, you gotta go with the Crossroads episode of Band of Brothers if you want to see some good ole Nazi wreckin’.

I actually rewatched BoB this fall for the first time in a while. Still excellent. But yeah I’m thinking of that scene where Bull gets in intimate hand to hand combat with a Kraut. Or maybe that was Replacements. It definitely was one of the Market Garden episodes.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:29:03pm

re: #316 lawhawk

And the GOP/regime’s endless stream of BS is designed to wear down the opposition too. It’s like facing a Mississippi River flood of BS and you’ve got only a bucket to push back.

Approximately half the country isn’t paying enough attention to what’s coming from Republicans for it to have much of an effect. And I’ll tell you this, at my heavily conservative government contractor job, the crap coming from Trump is starting to have an effect on the people here. And if it’s affecting them, wait until Republicans start affecting things like the ACA and Social Security.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:29:26pm

re: #320 EPR-radar

Django Unchained isn’t vs. Nazis, but seeing a bunch of US slave holders get wrecked a la Quentin Tarantino is very satisfying.

I enjoyed that as well. Finally caught Birth of a Nation a couple weeks ago.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:29:46pm

re: #316 lawhawk

And the GOP/regime’s endless stream of BS is designed to wear down the opposition too. It’s like facing a Mississippi River flood of BS and you’ve got only a bucket to push back.

Add to that my personal shame and indignity of having been a conservative Republican until Trump’s campaign. Honestly I should have seen it coming much sooner.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:30:04pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

My daughter and I just spent the last week watching BoB on Amazon. We’re going to wath “The Pacific” next

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:30:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:30:29pm

re: #325 Kragar

My daughter and I just spent the last week watching BoB on Amazon. We’re going to wath “The Pacific” next

I still need to see that.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:31:20pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Amazon Prime has them both right now

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Arkansawyer  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:31:46pm

re: #325 Kragar

My daughter and I just spent the last week watching BoB on Amazon. We’re going to wath “The Pacific” next

The Pacific was good, but I felt like it couldn’t live up to BoB.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:32:13pm

re: #324 Myron Falwell

Add to that my personal shame and indignity of having been a conservative Republican until Trump’s campaign. Honestly I should have seen it coming much sooner.

Don’t be too hard on yourself. It beats still being in the dark about it. I have a wingnut friend who still believes that Trump isn’t a real conservative but goes out of his way to bitch about the left and acts like the right never acted irrationally when it came to Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:32:32pm

re: #328 Kragar

Amazon Prime has them both right now

Excellent.

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scottslemmons  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:32:55pm

re: #320 EPR-radar

Django Unchained isn’t vs. Nazis, but seeing a bunch of US slave holders get wrecked a la Quentin Tarantino is very satisfying.

My go-to stress-reliever movie clip: the elevator scene from “Cabin in the Woods.” I just imagine whoever’s causing me stress — Nazis, Trumpers, former bosses, etc. — as the soldiers and enjoy watching people get wrecked by monsters.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:33:03pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

I still need to see that.

You could always go with a classic and try to find the old Combat television series.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:34:14pm

re: #333 Arkansawyer

You could always go with a classic and try to find the old Combat television series.

Yeah that’s true too. Lots of good WWII TV. I caught a British show on YouTube from the 70’s called Colditz that was awesome. More gritty than the Great Escape and more character development since it was a TV show.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:35:42pm

re: #329 Arkansawyer

The Pacific was good, but I felt like it couldn’t live up to BoB.

mr. klys felt the opposite. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:35:44pm

Honestly as a bit of a gamer, I’ve always had this idea for a game where you’re a resistance member. EA had that with The Saboteur but it could have been better. Still fun though.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:36:50pm

re: #329 Arkansawyer

Its a hard act to follow up, I admit, but heard good things about it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:36:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:37:27pm
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Arkansawyer  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:37:29pm

re: #335 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys felt the opposite. :)

I need to go back and watch it again. I’ve run through BoB at least a half dozen times.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:38:14pm

re: #340 Arkansawyer

I need to go back and watch it again. I’ve run through BoB at least a half dozen times.

He owns it on Blu-ray, because the streaming just couldn’t keep up for quality in a few areas.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:39:06pm

re: #338 Myron Falwell

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:39:42pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

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Putting something in all caps doesn’t make it true Jim. By the way, Trump showed how much he really cares about gay conservatives like you but hey at least there’s not a black guy or a woman in the WH, right? and you got your press creds that oyu don’t deserve.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:40:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:42:11pm

What made BOB so wonderful is you really did feel something for the characters. My favorite character on BOB was Luz. I had read Ambrose’s book before I watched the show so I knew they’d include the scene where he dupes Captain Sobel into cutting the cattle fence while training in England. It’s sad how a lot of those guys have since passed on. Dick Winters and all those guys were heroes and so humble about it.

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unproven innocence  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:42:38pm

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel

So if a pandemic outbreak occurs, the CDC should follow orders and inform no one that matters?
directory.psc.gov

Parent Organizations
Department of Health & Human Services

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:43:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:44:03pm
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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:44:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:44:31pm

re: #349 jaunte

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I don’t recall this in the Obama transition.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:45:08pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Well Breitbart, now you are the establishment. Well done you bigoted fucks.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:46:23pm
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Belafon  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:46:59pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

Well Breitbart, now you are the establishment. Well done you bigoted fucks.

Shouldn’t they cease to exist as a contradiction?

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:47:25pm

A bit of levity, because I think we need it…

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:48:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:48:46pm

re: #353 Belafon

Shouldn’t they cease to exist as a contradiction?

I was more or less poking fun at how they love to act like they’re this scrappy underground publication but now they have several of their own in the WH including drunk pig faced Bannon.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:49:25pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:49:38pm

re: #330 HappyWarrior

Don’t be too hard on yourself. It beats still being in the dark about it. I have a wingnut friend who still believes that Trump isn’t a real conservative but goes out of his way to bitch about the left and acts like the right never acted irrationally when it came to Obama.

It’s really hard sometimes when you realize that you were lied to all along. Some stuff will take longer to forgive myself for than others, and that goes with the territory.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:51:18pm

re: #358 Myron Falwell

It’s really hard sometimes when you realize that you were lied to all along. Some stuff will take longer to forgive myself for than others, and that goes with the territory.

Well you’re not alone here in having changed. I’ve always been more or less left of center but there’s lots of Lizards that were once right wing too. Just don’t beat yourself up. A lot of good people were lied to and you should give yourself credit for seeing what others still don’t.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:52:29pm

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

I don’t drink but those three tweets make me want to reach for a jug of absinthe.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:54:19pm

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

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Not sure why Williamson isn’t falling for it. Him and NRO have never met an opportunity to smear black people they haven’t liked.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:54:31pm

re: #358 Myron Falwell

It’s really hard sometimes when you realize that you were lied to all along. Some stuff will take longer to forgive myself for than others, and that goes with the territory.

My conversion was in the first term of W Bush. I was never a true believer in the Republican cause, I just found reasons to vote Republican more often than not by picking and choosing what to believe.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:54:50pm

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

what is it?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:55:06pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Well you’re not alone here in having changed. I’ve always been more or less left of center but there’s lots of Lizards that were once right wing too. Just don’t beat yourself up. A lot of good people were lied to and you should give yourself credit for seeing what others still don’t.

Thank you. I deeply appreciate the kind words. 🙂

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:55:38pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Not sure why Williamson isn’t falling for it. Him and NRO have never met an opportunity to smear black people they haven’t liked.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Williamson finds a way to have these doubts of his assuaged by some other bit of propaganda.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:56:25pm

re: #364 Myron Falwell

Thank you. I deeply appreciate the kind words. 🙂

Of course and as you know our host was once right leaning too. It’s not about when you became progressive or whatever, it’s that we’re on the same page now. As I said, I’m a life long liberal but I hated Clinton being attacked for having been a Goldwater supporter in HS. It was just wasn’t fair.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:56:47pm

re: #365 EPR-radar

It wouldn’t surprise me if Williamson finds a way to have these doubts of his assuaged by some other bit of propaganda.

Probably. Man I loathe him and NRO.

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EPR-radar  Jan 24, 2017 • 1:59:02pm

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Probably. Man I loathe him and NRO.

Me too. They are more responsible than most for the rise of Trump, but still like to pretend that their form of conservatism is more civilized than Trump/Bannon shit.

It isn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:00:48pm

re: #368 EPR-radar

Me too. They are more responsible than most for the rise of Trump, but still like to pretend that their form of conservatism is more civilized than Trump/Bannon shit.

It isn’t.

That’s why I may loathe them more. Trump and Bannon know what they are. They’re boors. NRO likes to present itself as civilized, intellectual, and responsible when it’s neither of those things. I admit, I got a nasty taste in my mouth from NRO because of having to see their articles posted here too often as a “Reasonable conservative” take.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:01:26pm

And the excuses for WFB’s steadfast defense of Jim Crow, Apartheid, and Latin American dictatorships grew thin with me fast.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:01:30pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Of course and as you know our host was once right leaning too. It’s not about when you became progressive or whatever, it’s that we’re on the same page now. As I said, I’m a life long liberal but I hated Clinton being attacked for having been a Goldwater supporter in HS. It was just wasn’t fair.

It was in reading Charles’ public repudiation of the right that has given me courage seven years later.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:02:02pm

re: #371 Myron Falwell

It was in reading Charles’ public repudiation of the right that has given me courage seven years later.

That’s awesome.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:06:24pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Just emailed my contacts at the national battlefield, since I am the unit coordinator for the re-enactment coming up. How the hell are we supposed to put on a re-enactment when the national park service cannot communicate with the pubic and with the units coming to participate.

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Moebym  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:08:28pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

As I said, I’m a life long liberal but I hated Clinton being attacked for having been a Goldwater supporter in HS. It was just wasn’t fair.

She had a genuine change of heart in high school, but some people with rigid ideological views will doubt the loyalty of anyone who’s ever been anything other than a full-throated leftie. I’ve found that people (like many here at LGF) who, like Clinton, had a change of heart at some point in their lives, are among the most loyal and passionate. That’s why I try to embrace former Republicans or Republicans who have lost faith in their party.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:10:35pm

re: #374 Moebym

She had a genuine change of heart in high school, but some people with rigid ideological views will doubt the loyalty of anyone who’s ever been anything other than a full-throated leftie. I’ve found that people (like many here at LGF) who, like Clinton, had a change of heart at some point in their lives, are among the most loyal and passionate.

Absolutely. And I have to say, the GOP faithful never held it against Reagan for having been a Dem.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:16:47pm

re: #311 wrenchwench

Awesome!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:34:15pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Sounds like the UK in the lead up to Brexit.

I was not in the UK leading up to Brexit. I suspect the populists are going to gain, but not necessarily gain power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:37:07pm

re: #296 ericblair

I’m a Yank living in Europe. Don’t worry about self-identifying as American, because people here much more than in America understand assholes like Trump, and understand a good citizenry with a shit government. The protests got a LOT of media coverage.

Funnily enough, Europeans seem a lot more optimistic about Americans than Americans themselves are: they figure we’ll learn our lesson, we’re good at change, and we’ll bounce back.

There was a Women’s March right here in Frankfurt. Germans who know me know what i think of Trump, and in general, what good Patriotic Trump Supporter would be living as an expat in the first place?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:38:22pm

re: #298 Kragar

Nazis, it’s time for a common-sense approach to not getting punched in the face:

yeah, it’s bad enough when they dress provocatively and then drink excessively and hang out at places they know aren’t safe…as if they were, well, asking for it.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:39:43pm

re: #316 lawhawk

And the GOP/regime’s endless stream of BS is designed to wear down the opposition too. It’s like facing a Mississippi River flood of BS and you’ve got only a bucket to push back.

Exactly. Again, you cannot argue with them, and it is wrong to punch them…things are going to get a lot worse for a lot of people who do not deserve it (and even many who do).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:41:24pm

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel

HHS workers, too, have been told to cease communications with members of Congress, press

Trump should just have the whole government sign an NDA

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:42:37pm

re: #329 Arkansawyer

The Pacific was good, but I felt like it couldn’t live up to BoB.

Hard one to match. Pacific had its moments, though. The British are planning their own BoB thing with Pegasus Bridge about the glider-borne troops who seized and held the Orne River bridge.

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BeachDem  Jan 24, 2017 • 2:59:13pm

re: #260 Interesting Times

Er…all the more reason to vote against it as symbolic protest, if nothing else? What possible advantage could voting in favor have? She’s up for re-election in 2018, midterms are low-turnout/base elections by nature, so…do something that only serves to piss off your own base??

I’m equally disappointed in Sherrod Brown, and actually, all the Dems on that committee. They need to make the Republicans OWN these idiot appointees.

The only rationale I could accept would be if the goopers said—if you don’t go with Carson, here’s who we’re going to pick and it was somebody worse. Although, even that wouldn’t wash—the Dems can’t stop anything anyway, but they should not be complicit in these horrible decisions.

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BeachDem  Jan 24, 2017 • 3:01:51pm

re: #272 Big Beautiful Door

Well it gave her an opportunity to state what she expects from Carson, so when he fails she can hold him accountable.

Ooh—will she write him a sternly worded letter?

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John_Manyjars  Jan 24, 2017 • 7:13:54pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

You know, I’m not a violent guy. But this was a pleasing image, in today’s context.

Just sayin’.


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‘Racist’ Flyers Urge Black Chicagoans to Help Deport Latino Neighbors - Pilsen - DNAinfo Chicago CHICAGO — A South Side alderman is slamming a flyer found in neighborhoods around the city asking black Chicagoans to report suspected undocumented residents to immigration agents. The flyer says that "Sanctuary city Policies endanger the lively hood[sic] of ...
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You Have One Last Chance to Repent, Sean Hannity….Help me force Sean Hannity to repent. If he doesn't, The Major will bring incredible the damage to Mr. Hannity using the new weapons of The Internet. I tried to warn you, Sean. You didn't listen then. If you choose ...
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Doctors Argue That Female Genital Mutilation Is Protected Under First Amendment Two doctors in Detroit, along with one of their wives, are about to take the first religious defense of female genital mutilation to a US Federal court. The case stems from a FBI investigation into Dr. Jumana Nagarwala after ...
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Letters From Women Pleading for Abortion, Sent in 1917, Mirror Emails Sent Today In the early 1900s, desperate American women wrote letters to the founder of Planned Parenthood begging for help with unwanted pregnancies. A century later, they're sending eerily similar messages to an international abortion-by-mail service. "I'm in the family way ...
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