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Schroedinger's Dog  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:27:42pm

Delusion is dangerous. Self delusion is even more dangerous. Being able to force your delusions on people you have power over is the most dangerous of all.

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:28:03pm
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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:30:41pm

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:33:55pm

Which country will be the first to break off diplomatic relations with the U.S.?

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:34:00pm

re: #3 darthstar

Fuckin’ sad. Blown up. Leaves behind a wife and infant daughter.

Facebook Post

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:36:22pm

My buddy’s house. Yes, that’s about 8 feet of snow on his roof and a 20 foot pile that blocks the rest of his house from view.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:37:28pm

re: #3 darthstar

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:44:54pm

I’m going to have to ask my local farmers and ranchers about the USDA gag order, as noted by The Commodore here.

littlegreenfootballs.com

As for that idea of sending in Federal agents into Chicago, that in politics is called “floating a trial balloon.” The purpose of such a statement is to see who accepts it and who opposes it.

If there were massive opposition (not just Chicago), it would likely be withdrawn. I’m guessing that won’t happen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:46:42pm

/re: #1 Schroedinger’s Dog

Delusion is dangerous. Self delusion is even more dangerous. Being able to force your delusions on people you have power over is the most dangerous of all.

The true Trump supporters of my acquaintance are as delusional as Trump and their delusions arose from years of listening to propaganda from Breitbart, Fox, and other right-wing media sources. Trump did not force his delusions on his supporters; they already believed fables they heard elsewhere and flocked to him because he believed as they did. They also believe his fables about his remarkable business acumen and skill in negotiation.

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:47:39pm
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Apocalypse  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:48:32pm

re: #8 Anymouse

I thought that was known as “kite flying”?

Pre edit: wiki says they’re the same thing.

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 9:48:45pm

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

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The true Trump supporters of my acquaintance are as delusional as Trump and their delusions arose from years of listening to propaganda from Breitbart, Fox, and other right-wing media sources. Trump did not force his delusions on his supporters; they already believed fables they heard elsewhere and flocked to him because he believed as they did. They also believe his fables about his remarkable business acumen and skill in negotiation.

That comes from decades of bashing liberals as unpatriotic, California as a raging Dumpster fire of debt, &c.

Propaganda is a helluva drug, and conservatives have been propagandised all my life.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:06:32pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:16:13pm

cnn.com

The measure being drafted specifies that migrants who engage in bigotry, so-called “honor killings” by males of their female relatives, and violence against women shouldn’t be admitted.

But if you were born here, you can become President!

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:17:17pm

Not sure if this is a poe or a true wingnut. I’m guessing poe based on his other posts.

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:17:55pm

This video is in the parlance of the 90s Must-See-TV.

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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:20:16pm

re: #15 Anymouse

Not sure if this is a poe or a true wingnut. I’m guessing poe based on his other posts.

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It’s a Koch Industries blurb. Whaddya guess?

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:21:01pm

Trump has basically destroyed any chance that people in Muslim countries will help us fight ISIS.

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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:21:14pm

re: #17 retired cynic

Or did I shoot from the hip (again), and you meant the whole thing was fake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:21:23pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

“…migrants who engage in bigotry”

Hey, does this mean we can kick out Ted Cruz??

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:22:19pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

cnn.com

But if you were born here, you can become President!

And yet, it was just a few years ago that the GOP opposed the VAWA on the grounds that battered women coming to this country could attain temporary visas.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:22:23pm

re: #18 Kragar

We don’t need their help when his plan is to nuke them all.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:22:24pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:24:14pm

re: #18 Kragar

Trump has basically destroyed any chance that people in Muslim countries will help us fight ISIS.

We’ve walled off our shores to refugees, we demonize them by saying that all refugees are potential terrorists, and we’re siding with a dictator because he claims that the rebels he’s fighting are “terrorists.”

Iran must be laughing their asses off right about now.

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Moebym  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:24:55pm

re: #23 Kragar

To be fair, with the in-auuuuugh-uration having been just four days prior, it isn’t too weird to have the backdrop of the Capitol building with the flags hanging from it.

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:25:00pm

re: #23 Kragar

Jeezum Crow! That’s some dumbass shit.

I swear, this’ll be our currency a lot sooner than 2505.

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:27:13pm

re: #23 Kragar

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Well, the White House Webpage (after you get past the “sign up for Mr. Trump’s E-mails nonsense that was never on the site under President Obama) has as its main picture a picture of a Trump rally.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:27:49pm

I guess Trump has his heart set on going down as the most Xenophobic President ever.

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:29:16pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I guess Trump has his heart set on going down as the most Xenophobic President ever.

Not just Trump:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:30:55pm

Remember all those RWNJs talking about how horrible government overreach is?

What the fuck ever happened to that??

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:31:50pm

re: #3 darthstar

Thanks for the image. Sending good vibes towards north Tahoe.

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teleskiguy  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:37:29pm

Always eats me up when I find out a ski patrol died in his ski boots while on duty. First time for me was when I was about eight or nine years old, when I heard that a Vail ski patrol dude got struck by lightning and died. I’ve skied past that dude’s memorial a thousand times and I always think about his extraordinary stroke of bad luck.

Today, this happened:

Joe Zuiches, a 42 year-old resident of Olympic Valley and a member of the Squaw Valley professional ski patrol since 2012, was killed in a fatal incident at 8:35 AM this morning during avalanche control activities. The incident, which occurred at the top of Gold Coast Ridge at Squaw Valley, does not appear to be avalanche related.

A bomb he was using (or someone else was using, we don’t know right now) for avalanche control blew up too close to him, and he died.

😢

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:37:30pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember all those RWNJs talking about how horrible government Democratic overreach is?

What the fuck ever happened to that??

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Fixed.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:39:42pm

re: #25 Moebym

But its the White House account…

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:40:39pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:43:46pm

re: #35 Anymouse

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I find myself pining for the days when I actually believed Trump would be just another Dubya, hiring a bunch of Bush Sr. and Dubya’s leftovers for his cabinet in order to run things while he sat back and took the credit for his “success.”

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:47:20pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

I find myself pining for the days when I actually believed Trump would be just another Dubya, hiring a bunch of Bush Sr. and Dubya’s leftovers for his cabinet in order to run things while he sat back and took the credit for his “success.”

I never believed that. From the moment he went on his rant against “Mexican rapists and criminals” he lost Jeb Bush and anyone who supported him.

Bush family support ended right then, considering who Jeb Bush is married to.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:48:59pm

re: #37 Anymouse

It would sure be just desserts if the likes of the Bushes were working behind the scenes to undermine him. Alas. That doesn’t seem to be happening at all.

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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:51:04pm

re: #38 GlutenFreeJesus

It would sure be just desserts if the likes of the Bushes were working behind the scenes to undermine him. Alas. That doesn’t seem to be happening at all.

Well, by definition, if it’s behind the scenes, we wouldn’t see it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2017 • 10:56:36pm

re: #37 Anymouse

I never believed that. From the moment he went on his rant against “Mexican rapists and criminals” he lost Jeb Bush and anyone who supported him.

Bush family support ended right then, considering who Jeb Bush is married to.

The Bush family doesn’t support him, are pretty clear in their disdain for him, but there are plenty of guys like Bolton who see a Trump presidency as another whack at power. John just didn’t count on Herr Hairpiece’s pettiness being such that a 70’s pornstache was considered disqualifying for a cabinet position.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:12:28pm
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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:17:12pm
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unproven innocence  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:23:41pm
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Anymouse  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:29:19pm

Kurt Eichenwald writes in Newsweek about the three Marines who disappeared in the Mayaguez Incident (the last combat of the Vietnam War, in which the Khmer Rouge seized a US container ship). President Ford ordered the Marines in to save the crew and recapture the vessel.

President Ford got a huge boost in his ratings over the counterattack, but for forty years conservatives have argued the three missing Marines disobeyed orders and didn’t catch their helicopter in time, so being missing was their fault.

Their names are the last on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

Now the information comes out that they were left on the beach and that was covered up to blame the Marines themselves for being left behind.

Way down in the article:

Anderson, the last American to see the three alive, according to military reports, doesn’t recall seeing them at the landing zone, but he does remember their call after the last chopper lifted off. He says he heard a recording of it in Okinawa, several days after the battle, while he was under investigation for leaving the Marines behind (he was cleared of responsibility). “There was a tape of [the Marines] that I thought the enemy had made,” he says. (According to Velie, the Americans recorded all radio communications with Marines on the ground.) “It was definitely Hall, Marshall and Hargrove,” Anderson adds. He can’t remember what they said, but he didn’t hear Cambodian voices on the tape, he says, and there was no evidence of coercion. “[The tape] got to me. I thought I was at fault.”

With the three Marines possibly still alive but no longer responding, the U.S. military had a difficult decision to make. Velie says there were many possible reasons the Marines on the beach didn’t get back on the radio. His aircraft could have moved out of their range. Or they had been wounded or forced to hide because Khmer Rouge fighters were nearby. Because of their poor swimming ability, he doubts they tried going out to sea. His aircraft stayed in the area until after midnight, hoping to make contact again, but the radio remained silent.

newsweek.com

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unproven innocence  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:40:13pm

re: #4 makeitstop

Which country will be the first to break off diplomatic relations with the U.S.?

It’s obvious: We have met the enemy and he is us. —Pogo

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:56:34pm

re: #41 Kragar

Impeachment hearings? I’m hoping for helicopter footage of a gold-plated Bronco fleeing police on the freeway while Trump screams “Why won’t Johnny Cochran pick up the phone!?!!” at Bannon.

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Kragar  Jan 24, 2017 • 11:58:18pm

re: #46 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Another likely scenario

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:00:20am

re: #43 unproven innocence

George Orwell’s 1984 Is Now the #1 Bestselling Book on Amazon January 24th, 2017

They are still giving “The Handmaid’s Tale” away free for Kindle readers as well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:08:59am

Perhaps the best that comes out of this is Trump fucks things up so bad that Republicans don’t get near the Presidency again for a long, LONG time.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:13:02am

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps the best that comes out of this is Trump fucks things up so bad that Republicans don’t get near the Presidency again for a long, LONG time.

Yeah, he basically becomes the 21st Century’s version of Herbert Hoover.

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:27:50am
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sagehen  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:33:55am

re: #46 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

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Impeachment hearings? I’m hoping for helicopter footage of a gold-plated Bronco fleeing police on the freeway while Trump screams “Why won’t Johnny Cochran pick up the phone!?!!” at Bannon.

I know we’re supposed to be “better than” my fondest wishes, but… if he’s gonna go full Mussolini in office, his tenure should end the same way Mussolini’s did.

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:34:38am

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps the best that comes out of this is Trump fucks things up so bad that Republicans don’t get near the Presidency again for a long, LONG time.

The W Bush years should have been sufficiently convincing along those lines. Evidently not.

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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:36:49am

re: #51 Kragar

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:36:56am

re: #52 sagehen

I would avoid putting anything down where it could be used as evidence later.

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:38:33am
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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:41:32am

re: #56 Kragar

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Trump: “I’m gonna make America great again!”

Beijing: “That’s cute. Now run along, Skippy, the adults are talking.”

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:56:40am
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Kragar  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:57:44am
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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2017 • 12:59:55am

re: #59 Kragar

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:09:10am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, he basically becomes the 21st Century’s version of Herbert Hoover.

Which caused a worldwide depression ending in a world war.

I’ll take his staff is so craven and eager to stab each other in the back and he is so incompetent they all bring themselves down.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:28:38am

re: #58 Kragar

When were those old Bears first built? They’ve been around forever - I remember seeing news footage when I was a little kid, and I’m 47.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:33:25am

Yeah, longstanding tradition, ever since President Obama left office.

whitehouse.gov

Statement from the White House Press Office

“It is a longstanding tradition that the children of Presidents are afforded the opportunity to grow up outside of the political spotlight. The White House fully expects this tradition to continue. We appreciate your cooperation in this matter.”

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:36:16am

Let’s see, during my lifetime …

Amy Carter left alone by conservatives? Nope, don’t remember that.
Chelsea Clinton left alone? Nope, don’t remember that either.
Sasha and Malia Obama left alone? By Tea Partiers? Oh hell no.

It would seem this tradition only exists when a Republican is in office.

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unproven innocence  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:46:42am

Kaspersky Lab Top Manager Arrested Over Treason Charges - Reports
(c) Flickr/ Andrzej Cybulski
Russia 06:27 25.01.2017 (updated 11:23 25.01.2017)

Ruslan Stoyanov, head of computer incidents investigation at Kaspersky Lab, was arrested over treason charges, Russian media reported on Wednesday.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Stoyanov is said to have actively cooperated with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and his arrest may be linked to arrest of one of the FSB department heads, the Kommersant newspaper reported citing a source close to FSB.

Both Stoyanov and the FSB employee were arrested in December. Details of the case remain unknown.
[snip]

They are a little slow getting this news out.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:48:11am

re: #65 unproven innocence

Kaspersky Lab Top Manager Arrested Over Treason Charges - Reports
(c) Flickr/ Andrzej Cybulski
Russia 06:27 25.01.2017 (updated 11:23 25.01.2017)

They are a little slow getting this news out.

Kind of like our own press on certain treasonous acts here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:53:35am

re: #11 Apocalypse

I thought that was known as “kite flying”?

Pre edit: wiki says they’re the same thing.

and it is the same as “Running it up the flagpole and seeing if anyone salutes it”…

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unproven innocence  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:55:10am

re: #66 Anymouse
I’ll be looking for news of what Stoyanov did —or refused to do.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:56:45am

Trump to Hang Photo of Inauguration Crowd in West Wing for Reporters.

politico.com

A panoramic photo of Donald Trump’s inauguration crowd will hang in the West Wing, the president announced Tuesday afternoon on Twitter, where reporters skeptical of his “unbelievable, perhaps record-setting turnout” will see it every day.

Trump made no reference to the clash between his administration and the press corps over the weekend regarding the attendance at his inauguration, only writing that the photo was delivered yesterday and that it “will be displayed in the upper/lower press hall.” The upper press and lower press are specific areas in the West Wing where administration press and communications officials work and to which reporters have access.

The upper and lower press areas were also decorated with photos during President Barack Obama’s administration. Those photos were rotated somewhat regularly to reflect the president’s recent activities and in the administration’s final weeks included highlights of his eight years in office.

The photo, posted to Twitter by Trump, incorrectly lists the date of his inauguration as Jan. 21, 2017, instead of Jan. 20. The Women’s March on Washington, believed to have drawn a significantly larger crowd than Trump’s inauguration, was held on Jan. 21.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:58:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 1:58:44am

re: #43 unproven innocence

George Orwell’s 1984 Is Now the #1 Bestselling Book on Amazon January 24th, 2017

I highly recommend “Super Sad True Love Story” by Gary Shteyngart: it describes the dysfunctional future America that Trump is creating: a currency collapse, and a functionally illiterate idiocracy ruled by corporate interests.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 2:06:50am

Interesting. You go to the Website of the photographer listed above, and it has the correct date of the inauguration.

You go to Donald Trump’s Twitter channel, it has the wrong date (the date of the Women’s March).

panoramicvisions.com

He also has photos from other inaugurations he shot photographs from, including Bill Clinton’s and Jimmy Carter’s.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 2:16:56am
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unproven innocence  Jan 25, 2017 • 2:28:12am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds a bit like Rollerball (1975)
Excerpt from a review by Phil H; bolding is mine:

August 13, 2012
In the future rollerskating is a deadly sport where anything goes, yes rollerskating. Its 2018 and the world is a corporate state, a dystopian future where everything is controlled by various global corporations. The ‘Energy Corporation’ based in Houston controls the Houston Rollerball team and pretty much the players of the team too.

‘Jonathan E’ is the greatest Rollerball champion of his time, possibly all time. The corporation love their star player but want to retire him, Rollerball was meant to quench the public’s blood lust but also show the futility of individualism.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 2:29:21am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 2:42:51am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:05:24am

I took one for the team for Jim Wright. I clicked on Sarah Palin’s link, which leads to some wingnut conservative site I never heard of claiming “a liberal” set someone on fire at Mr. Trump’s inauguration.

The wingnutosphere is on it, Daily Caller is calling for people to identify a person who set someone’s hair on fire (that seems to be the going story for now);

dailycaller (dot) com/2017/01/22/can-you-identify-this-woman-who-set-a-trump-supporters-hair-on-fire-in-dc-on-inauguration-day/

They have a YouTube video clip (so did the other wingnut site), then have a blown up picture of a woman who they say they want the name of.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:13:47am

Watching their video (which has added text to show your attention to the scene in question), it would appear someone tried to set a woman’s hair on fire, followed by someone trying to put it out.

I am not good enough with video to tell if one is edited or not.

If someone did, we certainly don’t need stuff like that. (The video is of the Women’s March, not the inauguration.) Moreover, if someone has such a video they should be turning it over to police.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:18:24am

Trumpsters are now trying to f**k with the forthcoming French elections.

link to buzzfeed

Also, a compendium of all the insanely stupid things Caligula Citrouille has posted about France recently:

link to buzzfeed

I can’t predict the consequences of all this sh*t except for one: cooperation between respective spooks will be impacted — BEN LADEN PREPARES TO STRIKE…-type of warning, forget it.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:22:06am

It would appear Deadbart misrepresented an AP report about Representative Paul Ryan by making a tweak to an AP headline.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:24:05am

re: #80 Anymouse

It would appear Deadbart misrepresented an AP report about Representative Paul Ryan by making a tweak to an AP headline.

Trump = Truth

simple enough formula. Get used to it.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:28:56am

re: #79 Lupin

Trumpsters are now trying to f**k with the forthcoming French elections.

link to buzzfeed

Also, a compendium of all the insanely stupid things Caligula Citrouille has posted about France recently:

link to buzzfeed

I can’t predict the consequences of all this sh*t except for one: cooperation between respective spooks will be impacted — BEN LADEN PREPARES TO STRIKE…-type of warning, forget it.

I’m guessing the French Intelligence Services will not be as forgiving of Trumpsters as the FBI appears to be.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:54:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:55:42am

re: #83 Myron Falwell

I honestly think that we’ve reached and are quickly passing the point of no return.

Well, put it this way: not point in looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, the train has just entered the tunnel and is gaining speed…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 3:57:15am

re: #80 Anymouse

It would appear Deadbart misrepresented an AP report about Representative Paul Ryan by making a tweak to an AP headline.

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Huh. Steve Bannon using his own house organ propaganda site to smear and intimidate the House Speaker, so as to bully that guy into toeing the same line.

Shocked, surprised, etc.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:00:06am

re: #85 Myron Falwell

Huh. Steve Bannon using his own house organ propaganda site to smear and intimidate the House Speaker, so as to bully that guy into toeing the same line.

Shocked, surprised, etc.

Wondering how long before Deadbart becomes the official government news organ, or if it takes over Voice of America (which Bannon is already able to exercise control over)

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:01:44am

re: #86 Anymouse

Wondering how long before Deadbart becomes the official government news organ, or if it takes over Voice of America (which Bannon is already able to exercise control over)

A merger of like and equal assets. Only we’ll have to pay taxes to pay for their vile filth..

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:06:43am

re: #15 Anymouse

Not sure if this is a poe or a true wingnut. I’m guessing poe based on his other posts.

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That’s a parody account.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:06:55am

re: #87 Myron Falwell

A merger of like and equal assets. Only we’ll have to pay taxes to pay for their vile filth..

that is their dream, not only abolishing the New Deal but creating a Newer Deal, or should we say a New Order

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:09:27am

For example, on the media blackout of government agencies, VOA has this:

“Incoming media requests will be carefully screened,” one directive said. “Only send out critical messages, as messages can be shared broadly and end up in the press.”

A review of EPA websites and social media accounts, which typically include numerous new posts each day, showed no new activity since Friday.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Tuesday that he had no information on the blackout. He said aides were looking into the circumstances.

voanews.com

On his claim of voter fraud that has morphed to illegal immigrant voter fraud, so far VOA is reporting it straight, but we’ll see how long that lasts.

WHITE HOUSE —

The White House said Tuesday that President Donald Trump continues to believe that voting by millions of undocumented immigrants cost him a victory in the national popular vote in November’s election.

“It’s a belief he maintains,” White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters, one day after the new president rehashed the election at a reception for congressional leaders, repeating the debunked claim that 3 million to 5 million immigrants in the country illegally voted for his opponent, Democrat Hillary Clinton.

Spicer offered no evidence of fraud. Pressed by reporters on what evidence Trump has, Spicer said Trump “has believed that for a while, based on studies and information he has.”

Further down that article, Mitch McConnell played magic balance fairy:

Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters voter fraud does happen, adding: “There are always arguments on both sides about how much, how frequent and all the rest.”

They also have Senator Lindsay Graham’s comment to Mr. Trump that he needs to knock this off.

voanews.com

A provision tucked into the Defense Authorisation Act gutted the Broadcasting Board of Governors (which runs VOA).

politico.com

Essentially, that gives Mr. Trump his “Trump TV and Radio” financed by the taxpayers.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:09:37am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is their dream, not only abolishing the New Deal but creating a Newer Deal

That would fit in line with this futurist’s prediction of the complete collapse of the US as a world power by 2020. (TBH, it could even come sooner.)

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:12:39am

re: #82 Anymouse

I’m guessing the French Intelligence Services will not be as forgiving of Trumpsters as the FBI appears to be.

I understand that after trying to make contact, the Germans are giving up on the Trump administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:14:03am

re: #92 Lupin

I understand that after trying to make contact, the Germans are giving up on the Trump administration.

They have no illusions about who they are trying to deal with

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Alyosha  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:15:52am

Whenever I feel down I sing these two songs to myself. Both by Elliott Smith; a song-writer who is able to combine pathos and hope in an amusing way.

LA - Elliot Smith

Elliott Smith - Stupidity Tries

Nothing Trump does is a fait accompli.
It’s dark now, but you’ll be surprised how powerful the smallest things will become in the face of tyranny. How much they will enliven people.
Don’t give up. Don’t accept the new normal.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:17:32am

That Trump is going to lay waste to the US is now pretty accepted as inevitable here (in Western Europe).

A friend working at the European Space agency told me that new procedures are being set up to prevent information-sharing with the US and the UK.

The passengers at the back of the bus (us) are now concentrating on trying to get out alive.

You can’t imagine the damage being done, irreversibly so. His colorful POGO-like crazy antics and lack of interest from most US media hide the demolition derby happening on the international scene.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:17:58am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have no illusions about who they are trying to deal with

I think they did; they no longer do.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:20:12am

The Western Europeans have always thought US politicians were putting on a show for their base but once behind closed doors, serious talks could be had. Many thought Trump (being a businessman) would prove to be the same. They have just discovered & realized he is truly insane and mentally deficient; what you see isn’t a pretense, it is the truth and there’s nothing else. People are sh*tt*ng in their pants.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:22:58am

re: #96 Lupin

I think they did; they no longer do.

They woke up when he started threatening German auto makers…some things are sacred to those people, and BMW, VW, Audi and Mercedes are to Germany what God, guns, motherhood and apple pie are to America.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:25:41am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They woke up when he started threatening German auto makers…some things are sacred to those people, and BMW, VW, Audi and Mercedes are to Germany what God, guns, motherhood and apple pie are to America.

Pentagon tries to reassure Germans that there is no fire (like Basil Fawlty talking to Manuel) so they no longer sh*t in their pants:

link to German newsite in English

The problem is that Trump continues to pour kerosene on the embers.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:30:19am

re: #91 Myron Falwell

That would fit in line with this futurist’s prediction of the complete collapse of the US as a world power by 2020. (TBH, it could even come sooner.)

I have a problem with people who are shown to have predicted things that came to pass.

You never hear about the predictions that didn’t come to pass. Motherboard heaps praise on this guy for predicting such things as the collapse of the Soviet Union. He was hardly the only one.

What has he predicted that failed to come true (which prophets and scammers alike will claim it just hasn’t happened yet)?

Star Trek predicted something quite like cell phones (though amateur radio operators were already working on that) and something like the Internet.

As of yet, we still don’t have flying cars as Popular Mechanics and The Jetsons predicted.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:31:28am

Voter suppression is coming very soon to a polling place near you.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:34:02am

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps the best that comes out of this is Trump fucks things up so bad that Republicans don’t get near the Presidency again for a long, LONG time.

My bet is that far-left third party candidates will continue to eat at the edges for Democrats offsetting what they would gain through Trump incompetency unless there is a clear message a move out to the central states all the states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:37:08am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is now promising a crackdown on voting on the premise of wholly imaginary problem of widespread voter fraud

Because nothing proves that a problem exists like an ongoing investigation. It worked for Benghazi and e-mails…

Do not expect him to back down from this.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:39:27am

re: #102 Barefoot Grin

My bet is that far-left third party candidates will continue to eat at the edges for Democrats offsetting what they would gain through Trump incompetency unless there is a clear message a move out to the central states all the states.

Yeah, I’m not holding my breath on anyone moving here. I’m guessing the first time someone in a coastal state heard you have to drive sixty miles for a veterinarian or a department store, or all the jobs are in farming and ranching, the answer would be “hell no.”

What? Your nearest cinema is sixty miles away?

The message needs to be “help us help ourselves” out here. These same rural areas used to be the progressive areas of the country. We were abandoned long ago.

Since there is no way the Electoral College is going away, we go back to my standard argument: start counting those states you wish to cede, as each gets two electoral votes.

“It costs too much” or “we need to focus on areas we can win” means there will be no wins.

Liberals like to claim they base their positions on facts, but somehow become curiously fact-free when the Electoral College comes up.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:41:18am

re: #94 Alyosha

Nothing Trump does is a fait accompli.
It’s dark now, but you’ll be surprised how powerful the smallest things will become in the face of tyranny. How much they will enliven people.
Don’t give up. Don’t accept the new normal.

I have unending righteous indignation against Trump and the GOP as a whole. Guess it’s all in how that anger is channeled.

(Not to be confused with Andrew Breitbart’s shitty “RIGHTeous indigNATION,” which I take pride in never having read.)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:42:42am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:42:52am

As I’ve said before, I don’t think abandoned captures it entirely. Most of my family were farmers in Illinois. Much of that land is now owned by a few mega-ag complexes. Almost none are in farming, and this just a generation difference. You could have FDR Democrats among family farmers, but that’s unlikely when farming is becoming more like corporate anything. Ultimately, though, it comes down to who will fork over the subsidies and in places like California and Arkansas who will look the other way on undocumented workers.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:43:21am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:46:17am

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

As I’ve said before, I don’t think abandoned captures it entirely. Most of my family were farmers in Illinois. Much of that land is now owned by a few mega-ag complexes. Almost none are in farming, and this just a generation difference. You could have FDR Democrats among family farmers, but that’s unlikely when farming is becoming more like corporate anything. Ultimately, though, it comes down to who will fork over the subsidies and in places like California and Arkansas who will look the other way on undocumented workers.

Most of the land here is owned by individuals. As far as I have seen living here there are no mega-ag corporations owning the land, just individual farmers and ranchers complaining about how high our property taxes are. (NE is right near the top.)

Property taxes are a good example of a flat tax: Regardless of how much you make, every square foot is taxed the same. If you’re a family farmer or rancher, those can be quite high.

However, as ranchers and farmers die and others choose not to take their place, I would expect corporations to move in and buy land at estate sales. That is how it was done in other states.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:48:42am

re: #109 Anymouse

Most of the land here is owned by individuals. As far as I have seen living here there are no mega-ag corporations owning the land, just individual farmers and ranchers complaining about how high our property taxes are. (NE is right near the top.)

Property taxes are a good example of a flat tax: Regardless of how much you make, every square foot is taxed the same. If you’re a family farmer or rancher, those can be quite high.

However, as ranchers and farmers die and others choose not to take their place, I would expect corporations to move in and buy land at estate sales. That is how it was done in other states.

Well, maybe the Dems can be the party of subsidies. I don’t know how you change it then. There’s no incentive at your local level and in many places the next biggest employer is either Walmart or the local penitentiary.

The other tool used to be pork, but that’s not possible in the age of no earmarks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:53:39am

re: #110 Barefoot Grin

Well, maybe the Dems can be the party of subsidies. I don’t know how you change it then. There’s no incentive at your local level and in many places the next biggest employer is either Walmart or the local penitentiary.

The other tool used to be pork, but that’s not possible in the age of no earmarks.

Dems need to be the party of the American Dream: the ones who offer better education, affordable university and continuing education and other means to make a better life for oneself and one’s family.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:54:47am

re: #110 Barefoot Grin

Well, maybe the Dems can be the party of subsidies. I don’t know how you change it then. There’s no incentive at your local level and in many places the next biggest employer is either Walmart or the local penitentiary.

The other tool used to be pork, but that’s not possible in the age of no earmarks.

We don’t have any local Walmarts. The nearest is over sixty miles away.

I wonder what would happen if the Democratic Party (nationally) were to offer infrastructure improvements to areas such as ours. (I dunno, maybe wireless service. Perhaps encouraging corporations to invest in Internet service. Maybe 911 service - our county got that in 2012 but most of the rural counties here don’t have it. A few paved roads might be nice too.)

Businesses prosper more under Democratic administrations than Republican ones. Perhaps encouraging businesses to make investments in underserved areas would help.

I dunno, I am not an economist (nor for that matter a farmer). I do know that the national party blowing off the state parties and the state parties blowing off the county parties is not exactly a recipe for success.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:58:07am

re: #112 Anymouse

Businesses prosper more under Democratic administrations than Republican ones. Perhaps encouraging businesses to make investments in underserved areas would help.

Problem is, those are small businesses without lobbyists or big amounts to donate to campaigns.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2017 • 4:58:23am

re: #112 Anymouse

We don’t have any local Walmarts. The nearest is over sixty miles away.

I wonder what would happen if the Democratic Party (nationally) were to offer infrastructure improvements to areas such as ours. (I dunno, maybe wireless service. Perhaps encouraging corporations to invest in Internet service. Maybe 911 service - our county got that in 2012 but most of the rural counties here don’t have it. A few paved roads might be nice too.)

Businesses prosper more under Democratic administrations than Republican ones. Perhaps encouraging businesses to make investments in underserved areas would help.

I dunno, I am not an economist (nor for that matter a farmer). I do know that the national party blowing off the state parties and the state parties blowing off the county parties is not exactly a recipe for success.

I like that. Infrastructure, broadband, and as Wendell said, outreach on other aspects of the American dream. I just found this. It’s one story, but it shows that there may be some other ways, too, such as support for sustainable, locally-sourced agriculture.

npr.org

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:02:02am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Problem is, those are small businesses without lobbyists or big amounts to donate to campaigns.

And so the Democrats ignore them.

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Tigger2005  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:02:58am

Trump’s fans aren’t listening to Olbermann, and they LIKE that he’s a dangerous authoritarian.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:03:34am

re: #42 Anymouse

The German Press’s take on Trump’s Inauguration speech? “That was a declaration of war.”

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:04:36am

Nazis are organizing:

buzzfeed

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:06:05am

Li’l Hitlerette calls children fleeing war zones “cowards” as she poses for a glamor shot.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:06:12am

re: #58 Kragar

Looking at the picture of the Bear I think of their unofficial motto.

“We have discovered the enemy task force. Dosvidanya Rodina!”

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:07:50am

Expect to see articles like this one calling out the administration for lying about the inauguration crowd sizes to go away under a Voice of America controlled by Deadbart and Steve Bannon.

voanews.com

(Factcheck: Size of Trump Inaugural Crowd)

Since the GOP also repealed VOA’s restrictions on creating content for domestic consumption, BBG members are concerned (even the Republican ones) that the high-quality production of VOA radio and television will be fed and used by mainstream media outlets in the USA to promote propaganda.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:09:28am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Hitlerette calls children fleeing war zones “cowards” as she poses for a glamor shot.

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Actually, there was a good piece on “Market Place” (American Public Media) yesterday about who they are sending over here: Syrians have the highest level of education and entrepreneurship of refugees, and immigrants over all have very high levels of entrepreneurship. I mean, they aren’t driven to whine on an Internet TV show, but….

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:11:54am

re: #74 unproven innocence

I loved the start of that movie.

rollerball intro, Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor

Also, I liked the parallels it drew between a society ruled by capitalism and one ruled by communism.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:13:35am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

That looks like one of those “Protect White Culture” posters that David Duke would endorse.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:14:27am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Hitlerette calls children fleeing war zones “cowards” as she poses for a glamor shot.

Fuck Tomi Lahren, and fuck Glenn “The Human Hemorrhoid” Beck for giving her a paycheck and an audience.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:16:04am

Don’t forget ratfucking the voters, Bernie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:19:50am
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b.d.  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:20:14am

Nice to see that someone fixed this picture….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:22:02am

It is not “voter fraud” for someone to be registered in two states. My kids are still on the voter rolls at our address even though they moved away years ago and vote where they currently live. I mentioned this to the poll worker the last time I went to vote in person and she said they can only remove them from the rolls if they receive a registered letter from the voter requesting the removal.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:23:15am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have personal experience with people like Trump.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:30:24am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

It is not “voter fraud” for someone to be registered in two states. My kids are still on the voter rolls at our address even though they moved away years ago and vote where they currently live. I mentioned this to the poll worker the last time I went to vote in person and she said they can only remove them from the rolls if they receive a registered letter from the voter requesting the removal.

When we moved to Nebraska, we wrote the Kay County, Oklahoma elections clerk to remove us from the voter rolls there after we were registered here.

Kay County required us to obtain notarised letters stating our intent to abandon the voter rolls.

For a time, we were registered in both states.

In person voter fraud or impersonation requires (like any other crime) an intent to carry out the crime. Being in Nebraska and registering to vote here hardly would qualify as intent to commit voter fraud in Oklahoma.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:33:10am

re: #112 Anymouse

I watched this little video from Nick Hanauer this morning. He encapsulated the problem facing our nations rather nicely.

Banned TED Talk: Nick Hanauer “Rich people don’t create jobs”

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:35:33am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Voter suppression is coming very soon to a polling place near you.

[Embedded content]

Let me guess—he’ll put True the Vote and Ken Blackwell in charge of the investigation (he can call my state rep, king of the ZOMBIE VOTERS inquiry that, after an 18 month investigation, found zero evidence) as a consultant.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:38:04am

More articles that will go away if Bannon or Deadbart get their hands on VOA:

Trump Uncertainty Fuels South Korea Nuclear Talk (goes to Voice of America, more at the link with analysis):

SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA —

Some South Korean conservatives are citing President Donald Trump’s past statements on reducing U.S. security commitments in Asia to argue that their nation must now prepare its own nuclear option to defend against the growing North Korean nuclear threat.

“I’m not saying we should develop nuclear weapons overnight. I’m saying that if there are the right conditions, then we should go nuclear,” said Lee Choon-kun, a researcher with the Korea Institute for Maritime Strategy, at an event sponsored by the East Asia Foundation in Seoul Tuesday.

Proponents say South Korea could quickly develop nuclear weapons using existing nuclear power plant facilities and fuel, and with the military’s advanced conventional weapons production capability.

However, South Korea would likely face severe consequences for violating the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty (NPT) that could include diplomatic isolation and international sanctions similar to what North Korea is facing.

And it could also lead to Japan and other countries developing their own nuclear deterrent.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:46:40am

Fox, throwing shade as only he can.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:48:26am
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:49:15am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:49:58am

re: #83 Myron Falwell

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:50:51am

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

What does that mean??

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:52:17am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

What does that mean??

It means we got a shitty translation of the Nuremberg Laws.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:52:54am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

What does that mean??

#WarOnFacts

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:54:41am
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unproven innocence  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:54:55am

re: #132 Romantic Heretic

Another from Nick Hanauer:

Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming | Nick Hanauer

“The genius of capitalism… is that it rewards people for solving other peoples’ problems.

We plutocrats need to get this trickle-down economics thing behind us. …It’s not true.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 5:58:36am

The “Bad Lip Reading” makes more sense than Trump actually talking.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:00:22am

The monument to Polish war dead where thousands were murdered in Ukraine was vandalised overnight.

thenews.pl
(Radio Poland in English) more at the link with photos.

Nazis on the rise everywhere it would seem.

He [the cemetery director] added: “The Ukrainian and Polish part of the cemetery was [vandalised] with oil paint. In the Polish section of the site, the words ‘SS Galizien’ were painted, and the Ukrainian site was inscribed with the words ‘OUN-UPA’.” The latter refers to the WWII-era Ukrainian Insurgent Army.

“SS Galizien” refers to the 14th Waffen Grenadier of the SS. They were largely recruited in Galicia and consisted mainly of Ukranian, Dutch, Slovaks, and Czechs.
[my note]

“There was also an attempt to destroy the [columns at the] entrance to the Polish part of the cemetery. Someone tried to topple them with a crowbar. One column tilted, while nothing happened to the other,” he added.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:03:36am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:07:07am
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:08:03am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:08:27am

Roman Polanski now out at the Cesar Film Awards in France (still perusing the Polish news here in Nebraska) after outcry and petitions:

thenews.pl (Radio Poland in English)

Feminist groups have collected over 60,000 signatures on a petition calling for Polanski to be prevented from performing the prestigious role next month at the César awards, which are known as the “French Oscars”.

The director, now 83, fled the US in February 1978, shortly before being sentenced for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl. He settled in Paris, where he has been chiefly based ever since.

A lawyer representing the director said on Tuesday in a statement that the outcry was unwarranted, adding that the controversy had “deeply saddened” Polanski and affected his family.

French Minister for Women’s Rights Laurence Rossignol had expressed concern at the “shocking” selection of Polanski.

During his long career, Polanski has received six Oscar nominations, two BAFTAs, four Césars, a Golden Globe Award and the Palme d’Or at the Cannes Film Festival in France.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:10:25am
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:11:59am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Trump’s double fisting the derp this morning. First with the immigration crap that he’s going to limit access from Muslim-majority nations, even though those seeking refuge here are trying to escape the likes of ISIS.

It’s the same fucking thing these fascist yams were doing back in the 1930s - preventing Jews from entering the US because they suspected Jews were spies or German infiltrators. How many thousands - nay hundreds of thousands of Jews - perished because the US refused to allow entry? How many died because these nationalist nuts think that people coming to the Shining City on the Hill are the enemy and not because they are trying to live up to the mythos of being a refuge and welcome people from around the world (ignoring that all but the Native Americans are people who came here to escape tyranny from around the world, and then promptly tried to impose their own brand here - up to and including screwing over the very Native Americans whose lands were expropriated).

Speaking of Native Americans, Trump is pushing the pipelines that would directly harm the Standing Rock Reservation should the pipeline leak. The threat of a leak was sufficient to justify changing the route away from other cities, but that pushed the risk of harm on to Native Americans. This is Trump screwing over Native Americans once again - just as he did back when he was running his casinos into the ground.

On top of all that - he’s pushing the voter fraud nonsense again - but that’s a lie with a purpose. Get enough people to recite/repeat the lie and push voter suppression methods that limit the vote of minorities and people who would otherwise vote against the GOP. The GOP fears voters. They lose when people turn out to vote. That’s why this is the most dangerous of the lies he’s told to date. It’s the one that has no basis in reality - and it’s quite besides the point.

The GOP will use the lie to fashion voter ID laws and make other restrictions that reduce the access to polls.

Meanwhile, Senate Democrats continue to piss me off by not voting against clearly unqualified and incompetent nominees for positions sought. Carson’s nomination should have been a slam dunk NO and yet Democrats including Warren are saying that they’ll back him for HUD.

All these nominees are getting rubber stamped by the GOP in any event since Democrats don’t have the numbers to stop any of the confirmations. But the Democrats aren’t even showing that they’re learning the new rules - which is to say the rules don’t exist. The GOP tossed all the rules out the window when they engaged in obstruction from day 1. Democrats have to learn this or else we’re going to see far worse in the years to come. Schumer isn’t helping matters either.

So far the only Democrat who seems to have gotten this is Gillinbrand.

Unqualified nominees should be unceremoniously voted against. This isn’t even a question, and yet Democrats are waffling and thinking that this somehow improves their chances down the road? This is the same mess that led to Democrats losing control of Congress in midterms in 2010 and 2014. Running away from the principled stand (which at that time was supporting Obamacare). Now, they’re running away from no votes against unqualified nominees.

Seriously, what the hell needs to happen for Democrats to grow a fucking spine against the fascists across the aisle who are rushing headlong into depriving all Americans of their rights and privileges.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:12:04am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:12:18am

re: #148 darthstar

Good thing I’m hanging on to my Canadian money. By the time I go to Yukon this summer it should be more valuable against the US Dollar than when I purchased it last year.

Too bad I couldn’t afford to buy ten million Canadian dollars then. I guess I’ll make about a buck thirty.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:12:56am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:13:49am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:15:39am

re: #150 darthstar

After his banishment, Rage Furby created 250 fake Twitter accounts and ran two verified accounts (WeSearchR and “Malik Obama”).

Should Twitter stamp this one out, these rogue NPS staffers** need to go CCJ’s route and simply create account after account.

** I think it’s safe to say this isn’t a fake account, but for obvious reasons, we won’t exactly know.

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jeffreyw  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:17:11am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:17:39am

re: #151 lawhawk

Well, if Senate Democrats aren’t even going to fight the good fight in Washington, why the hell should I think they give a damn about my little corner of the world?

More importantly, why should anyone else here who is non-political or maybe regretting voting for Trump care what the Democrats think?

Real motivator to get people out to vote in 2018 guys.

(It’s been four months and numerous messages to the state and county Democratic Party from my wife offering and repeating her offers to update the county Website - not updated since 2011 - for free - and still no responses from them. Just like the county and state party not contacting their only bloody elected official here.)

It’s almost as if Democrats don’t want votes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:18:49am

When you get overwhelmed by it all, this is a good account to follow:

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:21:21am

re: #151 lawhawk

WRT the DAPL fiasco, this thread. It’s certainly not a pleasant read but dovetails into your closing argument.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:22:12am
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:24:06am

re: #156 Myron Falwell

After his banishment, Rage Furby created 250 fake Twitter accounts and ran two verified accounts (WeSearchR and “Malik Obama”).

Should Twitter stamp this one out, these rogue NPS staffers** need to go CCJ’s route and simply create account after account.

** I think it’s safe to say this isn’t a fake account, but for obvious reasons, we won’t exactly know.

Twitter won’t shut them down for posting climate facts and asking people to donate to the actual NPS to counter budget cuts.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:25:24am

Marches are fine - but votes count. Demand Democrats vote against the extremists hellbent on reversing decades of progress (and yes, the eggs love to question progress, because they think sucking in lungfuls of coal and oil soot, drinking contaminated water, and having their kids work in textile mills 14 hours a day was a good thing). Then again, these eggs are also most likely having issues translating progress into English from Russian.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:25:32am
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:28:41am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:28:55am

re: #162 darthstar

Twitter won’t shut them down for posting climate facts and asking people to donate to the actual NPS to counter budget cuts.

I’m crossing my fingers on that. One of the precious few times their DudeBro Libertarianism can actually be used for good…

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:29:44am

re: #163 lawhawk

There’s also an action being started by the scientists to start getting some of them running for office. I’d have to go find it.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:30:52am

Okay, this is just brutal: The true, correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration:

Everyone in the world had come there at great expense. They sold all their possessions — their homes, their “Hamilton” tickets, which were worthless to them — to raise money to come and see this great sight. They could not believe that a perfect being such as Donald Trump even existed. They thought that he was a myth or a legend or a decades-long series of fabrications.

But then they saw him, and their doubts fell away.

The media was there, too, and they were very sorry. “Donald,” the newscasters said, “we were mean to you. We used to laugh and call you names. We were no better than all of the other reindeer. How can you ever forgive us?”

“Forgive you?” Donald Trump asked. “I’ve already forgotten.” He smiled a big, beautiful smile. That was just who Donald Trump was: forgiving, like Jesus, but blond.

It was a wonderful start to the day.

Everyone liked Donald Trump’s speech and the words that he used. They liked even more the part where he rolled up his sleeve and showed off his bicep. It was a great bicep. It made the Rock so upset to see it that he threw something down on the ground and said “darn.”

Then Donald Trump served loaves and fishes to everyone there. There were enough loaves and fishes for everyone, and they all were Made in America and said “TRUMP” on them. It was like the Oscars, but also like Woodstock, but also like the Super Bowl, but also like the Sermon on the Mount. If you were not there, you should just go home and die, because nothing in your life will have purpose or meaning by comparison, not even holding your newborn child in your arms or having health insurance. This is what FOMO was talking about for all these years.

Bono, and Bruce Springsteen, and Elton John, and the Rolling Stones, and Beyonce, and all the top artists were there. They fought hard over who would be allowed to sing. Finally Bruce Springsteen won. Bono cried and cried, and the other artists had to console him. When Bruce Springsteen had finished singing, he walked over to Donald Trump, extended his hand, and said, “You are the only real hero left in the world.”

The people were so excited that they built a very special stone pyramid just for Donald Trump so that he would not have to wait until he died to see what his monument would look like. But they were silly to be concerned. Donald Trump will never die!

Alexandra Petri should consider hiring a security detail, though.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:31:37am
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:32:25am

re: #166 Myron Falwell

I’m crossing my fingers on that. One of the precious few times their DudeBro Libertarianism can actually be used for good…

They’re not dudebros, they’re NPS employees.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:32:53am

From one of my coworkers: Hopefully after seeing what’s happening, people will turn out to vote in 2020.

This guy’s conservative, but not one of the nuts. He was telling me that his wife showed him who DeVos was, and he doesn’t like her.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:33:13am

re: #169 darthstar

Waiting for my print edition of The Economist in the mail to read that.

At least people who write letters to the editor of that magazine aren’t lunatic wingnuts. Some of the letters that follow up on that should be interesting.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:33:15am

Trump will undoubtedly take credit for the occasion. Or slam Obama for not reaching this mark on his watch…

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:33:50am

re: #170 darthstar

They’re not dudebros, they’re NPS employees.

Myron’s talking about Twitter.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:33:53am

re: #171 Belafon

From one of my coworkers: Hopefully after seeing what’s happening, people will turn out to vote in 2020.

This guy’s conservative, but not one of the nuts. He was telling me that his wife showed him who DeVos was, and he doesn’t like her.

Tell him the next election is in 2018.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:34:22am

Oh Please!!! Read this story!
texastribune.org

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:34:27am

re: #175 Anymouse

Tell him the next election is in 2018.

That’s exactly what I told him.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:34:51am

re: #170 darthstar

They’re not dudebros, they’re NPS employees.

I think that refers to the Libertarian dudebros who run Twitter.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:35:36am

re: #175 Anymouse

There are elections this year - whether they’re local school boards, or governorships in places like NJ. Elections every year. Can’t just turn out once every 4 years. That’s not how it works - but that’s how the GOP likes it since they hate turnout.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:35:41am

re: #177 Belafon

That’s exactly what I told him.

Good. Mrs. DeVos would get no traction in the Senate if Republican senators were not wingnuts.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:38:31am

Okay..score one…no, two points for Ted Cruz. First, his photo (he played for Duke?) and his response to being told to eat shit.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:38:58am

re: #179 lawhawk

There are elections this year - whether they’re local school boards, or governorships in places like NJ. Elections every year. Can’t just turn out once every 4 years. That’s not how it works - but that’s how the GOP likes it since they hate turnout.

We don’t have odd-year elections here, unless there is some sort of special election.

Our next election is in 2018, where I am sure the Republicans will serve me Adrian Smith again for Representative, and the Democrats will ignore us again. They don’t need these Plains states after all. (A few reps here, a few reps there, and suddenly you’re in the minority - funny how that works.)

If Representative Car Thief can get reëlected in California, surely the Dems could run someone - anyone - in each House district.

I foresee the day when a large swath of the country’s children might ask, “Daddy, what’s a Democrat?”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:39:43am

re: #174 Belafon

Myron’s talking about Twitter.

re: #178 Anymouse

I think that refers to the Libertarian dudebros who run Twitter.

That is correct. I was referring to Twitter. 🙂

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:40:14am

re: #149 Anymouse

Roman Polanski now out at the Cesar Film Awards in France (still perusing the Polish news here in Nebraska) after outcry and petitions:

thenews.pl (Radio Poland in English)

If the State of California had launched a criminal action in France at the time (now the statute of limitations has run out) as it had the right to do, instead of stupidly misinterpreting the French-US extradition treaty (which clearly specifies that each country does not extradite its own citizens, only those from the other country), Polanski would have served a minimum of 7 years in jail (if i recall correctly) just for having sex with a minor, rape charges notwithstanding.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:40:41am

re: #172 Anymouse

Waiting for my print edition of The Economist in the mail to read that.

At least people who write letters to the editor of that magazine aren’t lunatic wingnuts. Some of the letters that follow up on that should be interesting.

I read The Economist online. The comments posted on their articles are just as insane as other news sites. But the replies to those insane postings are priceless!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:41:22am

Has Alex Rubinstein, the RT America operative who was arrested along with protesters and legitimate journalists in DC, been released yet?
This is an embarrassing misstep by the new Trump administration. Putin will no doubt understand, as long as due compensation is given and there are no recurrences.
This is really just a hazard of the job though. If you go around pretending to be a real journalist, as the job sometimes requires, you cannot expect every storm trooper out there to have gotten the word yet. Perhaps they should issue recognition card sets so they can tell friend from foe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:41:24am

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:41:30am

re: #183 Myron Falwell

A Smiley Face! I got a Smiley Face! No one ever sends me Smiley Faces!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:41:42am

re: #181 darthstar

Okay..score one…no, two points for Ted Cruz. First, his photo (he played for Duke?) and his response to being told to eat shit.

“I killed a man with a trident!”

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:43:13am

re: #185 Joe Bacon

I read The Economist online. The comments posted on their articles are just as insane as other news sites. But the replies to those insane postings are priceless!

I have access to the on-line version due to my print subscription, but I do not use it because it is incredibly slow thanks to our Pony Express Internet service.

(Democrats? Infrastructure for the Heartland?)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:43:23am

re: #181 darthstar

Okay..score one…no, two points for Ted Cruz. First, his photo (he played for Duke?) and his response to being told to eat shit.

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Grayson Allen who currently plays for Duke looks a bit like Ted. That was the joke. The Anchorman ref is surprising too since he comes off as a bit of a prude.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:44:25am

re: #189 Myron Falwell

“I killed a man with a trident!”

Brick, I’ve been meaning to tell you but you’re probably wanted for murder so you should probably lie low for a few days.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:44:50am

I rarely checked the news wondering what Obama was up to. Today we live on the eve of armageddon, with Caligula in the WH. I wonder how many hours of productivity this ghastly puppet is costing the country.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:45:14am

re: #183 Myron Falwell

That is correct. I was referring to Twitter. 🙂

Dear god…I’ve been participating in dudebro media?

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:46:44am

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:47:34am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:48:51am

re: #193 Lupin

I rarely checked the news wondering what Obama was up to. Today we live on the eve of armageddon, with Caligula in the WH. I wonder how many hours of productivity this ghastly puppet is costing the country.

Currently, Barack and Michelle Obama are guests of Sir Richard Branson on his private island in the British Virgin Islands, at his request.

They took selfies with the police commissioner and immigration officials (pictured in article)
huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:50:32am

Anyhow what I’m gonna do is work locally. We won’t be facing Trump directly until 2020. Gotta keep seats in Dem hands or flip Republican seats.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:50:54am

re: #197 Anymouse

Currently, Barack and Michelle Obama are guests of Sir Richard Branson on his private island in the British Virgin Islands, at his request.

They took selfies with the police commissioner and immigration officials (pictured in article)
huffingtonpost.com

If we’re lucky, Branson’s uploading copies of Michelle and Barack’s brains to the internet, and fitting them for specialized mechs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:51:20am

re: #196 darthstar

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Of course he posts something of Lumpy. Lumpy loves him Trump.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:51:23am

re: #196 darthstar

Cause I can’t get on twitter at work, what does it say?

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:51:43am

re: #193 Lupin

I rarely checked the news wondering what Obama was up to. Today we live on the eve of armageddon, with Caligula in the WH. I wonder how many hours of productivity this ghastly puppet is costing the country.

It’s sure distracting the fuck out of me. Also, for the first time in my long life I felt on the verge of a panic attack last night (my family has a history of them, but I’ve never had one).

Great, now I’ve got two battles to fight. Just great. Thanks, Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:53:17am

re: #201 Belafon

Cause I can’t get on twitter at work, what does it say?

Blurbs of praise for Trump’s actions since he took office from the “dishonest media.”

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:54:19am

re: #201 Belafon

Cause I can’t get on twitter at work, what does it say?

It’s an immediate release

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:55:03am

re: #204 darthstar

It’s an immediate release

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Yeah a press release.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:55:04am

re: #199 Belafon

If we’re lucky, Branson’s uploading copies of Michelle and Barack’s brains to the internet, and fitting them for specialized mechs.

LOL.

“You feared he would pack you off to a FEMA camp or take your guns. But now he’s back! MechaBamz!!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:55:52am

re: #201 Belafon

Cause I can’t get on twitter at work, what does it say?

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:56:15am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Yeah a press release.

A press release talking about the press talking about him.

Gaaaa.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:56:24am

re: #202 makeitstop

For a variety of reasons, I feel personally safe v& secure, no children, grandchildren, etc. and yet — every morning first thing I check the news. Never did that before.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:56:31am

re: #206 Anymouse

LOL.

“You feared he would pack you off to a FEMA camp or take your guns. But now he’s back! MechaBamz!!”

You want to know who will take people’s guns? Trump.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:57:04am

re: #208 Anymouse

A press release talking about the press talking about him.

Gaaaa.

He’s so meta.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 6:57:57am

re: #208 Anymouse

A press release talking about the press talking about him.

Gaaaa.

I know. I already have left for work. Too late for whiskey.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:00:15am

The RWNJs must be mightily disappointed to find that Obama has not in fact left them a chain of fully equipped FEMA camps. He must have had them dismantled and smuggled into Syria. Yeah, that’s the ticket, hidden away in Syria.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:02:06am

re: #213 Shiplord Kirel

The RWNJs must be mightily disappointed to find that Obama has not in fact left them a chain of fully equipped FEMA camps. He must have had them dismantled and smuggled into Syria. Yeah, that’s the ticket, hidden away in Syria.

No guns banned too. Wayne LaPierre will just have to recycle the same gun memes.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:02:20am

re: #209 Lupin

For a variety of reasons, I feel personally safe v& secure, no children, grandchildren, etc. and yet — every morning first thing I check the news. Never did that before.

My wife and I are in the same situation. But after watching last night’s Twitter rage-a-thon, our ongoing conversation about possibly leaving the country came up again.

My wife is very afraid of where the Trump admin is going to leave women, and I can’t say I blame her.

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:02:45am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Yeah a press release.

More like a collection of positive blurbs about a truly terrible movie.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:03:41am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

No guns banned too. Wayne LaPierre will just have to recycle the same gun memes.

WE’RE ONLY TWO YEARS AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATS POSSIBLY TAKING CONGRESS AND STEALING ALL YOUR GUNS WITH HELP FROM THE U.N.!!!1!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:04:46am

re: #216 BeachDem

More like a collection of positive blurbs about a truly terrible movie.

Haha yeah that’s spot on.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:07:07am

re: #217 Timothy Watson

WE’RE ONLY TWO YEARS AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATS POSSIBLY TAKING CONGRESS AND STEALING ALL YOUR GUNS WITH HELP FROM THE U.N.!!!1!

We need your monies!

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:08:16am

Charles Pierce nails it (and it scares the living shit out of me):

It’s been fun to point and laugh at the new administration. It’s been fun to mock Sean Spicer’s obvious discomfort at the podium, and to sit in awe at the obvious infighting within the White House this early in the game. But, while we’re doing that, slowly and steadily, an actual government has been forming, and it is the most dangerously retrograde government that our system has produced in at least the past 150 years.

It is secretive and it is resistant to any empirical information that it does not want to hear. It is grotesquely anti-science. It seeks to roll back progressive achievements dating back to Teddy Roosevelt and it has the power to do so, even if it is in its own bungling way. And it really hasn’t gotten rolling yet.

esquire.com

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:10:02am

re: #216 BeachDem

More like a collection of positive blurbs about a truly terrible movie.

Trump is so insecure that he needs daily affirmations that he’s doing what he thinks is right - all reality be damned. So we’ll cherry pick a few tweets that suggest he’s ramming through his agenda and is succeeding because the GOP wants to push the agenda, consequences to the nation be damned.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:10:45am

re: #181 darthstar

Okay..score one…no, two points for Ted Cruz. First, his photo (he played for Duke?) and his response to being told to eat shit.

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That’s a current player for Duke. Also, it was funny of Cruz, but it would have been better if someone hadn’t posted a picture of that exact same player in the comments of Deadspin’s original article a couple days before the tweet.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:11:49am

re: #222 Arkansawyer

That’s a current player for Duke. Also, it was funny of Cruz, but it would have been better if someone hadn’t posted a picture of that exact same player in the comments of Deadspin’s original article a couple days before the tweet.

It’s also Allen Fucking Grayson, who’s a complete thug on the court.

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:12:27am

re: #215 makeitstop

My wife and I are in the same situation. But after watching last night’s Twitter rage-a-thon, our ongoing conversation about possibly leaving the country came up again.

My wife is very afraid of where the Trump admin is going to leave women, and I can’t say I blame her.

I don’t think there’s really a safe place on the planet right now. Yes, he might lay waste to the US, and that’s plenty bad enough, but his insanity vis-a-vis NATO, the Chinese, the Russians, global trade, is making the entire world as a whole a far less predictable place.

As i posted above, the Western Europeans are sh*tt*ng in their pants right now & steps are being taken to shield themselves against rogue US behavior. It’s not being widely reported, but it’s quite amazing. (Got a friend in the aerospace industry, hence the gossip.)

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:12:48am

re: #220 BeachDem

I’ve been pointing and laughing, and I’ve called my congress people, with more calls today. I’m also meeting with my local Democratic party. And I’m contributing to other groups. And I’m talking to people around me about what’s going on.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:13:26am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

It’s also Allen Fucking Grayson, who’s a complete thug on the court.

Exactly how I imagine Cruz most of the time:

GRAYSON ALLEN of Duke TRIPS PLAYER AND LOSES TEMPER!!!!

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:15:35am

re: #224 Lupin

I don’t think there’s really a safe place on the planet right now. Yes, he might lay waste to the US, and that’s plenty bad enough, but his insanity vis-a-vis NATO, the Chinese, the Russians, global trade, is making the entire world as a whole a far less predictable place.

As i posted above, the Western Europeans are sh*tt*ng in their pants right now & steps are being taken to shield themselves against rogue US behavior. It’s not being widely reported, but it’s quite amazing. (Got a friend in the aerospace industry, hence the gossip.)

Yup, there is really no safe place. (Perhaps Mexico, because they will have a wall to keep Americans in, something-something, ah yes, what East Germany called theirs: The Anti-Fascist Rampart, designed to keep West Germans out.)

Fleeing may offer short-term security for the wealthy who can afford it, but for the overwhelming majority of us the fight is either here or not at all.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:15:51am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

It’s also Allen Fucking Grayson, who’s a complete thug on the court.

It’s a DUKE player… that’s all you need to know.

/how do you know god’s a Tar Heel fan? Why else would he paint the sky Carolina blue.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:17:14am

re: #228 lawhawk

It’s a DUKE player… that’s all you need to know.

/how do you know god’s a Tar Heel fan? Why else would he paint the sky Carolina blue.

Only on the coasts. The higher in elevation, the darker the colour. (I noticed that when I moved from Oklahoma at about 900 feet to here at nearly 4,000 - and even more in the mountains in Wyoming.)

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:18:42am

re: #228 lawhawk

It’s a DUKE player… that’s all you need to know.

/how do you know god’s a Tar Heel fan? Why else would he paint the sky Carolina blue.

Go UVA and VCU.

(Uncle went pre-med to UVA, my dad and I both went to VCU.)

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Amory Blaine  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:23:01am

America is turning its back on war refugees. If we had any compassion Germany and Europe would not have had to bear the brunt of Syrian war refugees, taxing their own democracies.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:26:09am

re: #231 MAGATARD PRIME

America is turning its back on war refugees. If we had any compassion Germany and Europe would not have had to bear the brunt of Syrian war refugees, taxing their own democracies.

We’re a shining example of a Christian Nation.

/////////////////////////////

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:26:19am

Folk who didn’t really believe Mr. Trump would do the things he said he would do, or simply didn’t know, or thought “both sides are the same” are still being collected at

areyousorryyet.com

Whigning today includes complaints about Dakota Access and Keystone XL, people losing their insurance, people whose mortgages are going up thanks to the FHA order, &c.

Culled from “before and after the election tweets” from Trump supporters.

The owner of the Website puts a comment after each pair of tweets (variations on a theme of liberals told you so but you wouldn’t listen)

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:29:32am

re: #232 Belafon

We’re a shining example of a Christian Nation.

/////////////////////////////

And yet no churches of significance calling this out … they sure were loud when news floated around about Christians being killed.

Since so many churches paint atheists (we’re evil) and liberals (we’re also evil) with such a broad brush, I’ll just keep that as a reminder when I was first introduced to the concept of religious compassion in Christianity I laughed my head off. (Literally.)

There are compassionate Christians to be sure, but they would be compassionate if they were any other religion or none. It isn’t religion that makes one compassionate, it is empathy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:31:38am

re: #224 Lupin

I don’t think there’s really a safe place on the planet right now. Yes, he might lay waste to the US, and that’s plenty bad enough, but his insanity vis-a-vis NATO, the Chinese, the Russians, global trade, is making the entire world as a whole a far less predictable place.

As i posted above, the Western Europeans are sh*tt*ng in their pants right now & steps are being taken to shield themselves against rogue US behavior. It’s not being widely reported, but it’s quite amazing. (Got a friend in the aerospace industry, hence the gossip.)

I’ve been expecting sane nations to take steps, some of them pretty drastic, to mitigate the damage Trump can do. It must be assumed, for example, that any information shared will go straight to Moscow.

I also wonder if countries like Switzerland are dusting off their nuclear weapons plans. The Swiss actually pursued nukes pretty seriously in the 50s and 60s and kept their nuclear weapons working group open until 1988. They also kept 20 kg of plutonium until 2016 when they transferred it to the US for “safekeeping.” Will they want it back now?

Another example from the other side of the world:
Get Ready, China: This Is Why Australia Needs Nuclear Weapons
This 2015 article was dismissed as the work of cranks at the time. Its case may be a great deal more persuasive now.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:37:05am

Cards against Humanity has a Chicago Craigslist advert out to hire a new CEO. LOL.

chicago.craigslist.org

I wonder if they are looking for a particular person here. /s

Cards Against Humanity is hiring a CEO! (Chicago)

compensation: We will award you 51% of our company and you can set your own salary.

employment type: full-time

Cards Against Humanity, the #1 best-selling party game, is hiring a new CEO!

Let’s face it: we have no idea what we’re doing. This year, we wasted an enormous amount of time and 
energy trying to get Hillary Clinton elected President, and on Black Friday we dug a huge hole in the 
ground because we wanted to find out if it would be funny. It’s been a great run, but now it’s time 
for real adult leadership.

Requirements

We are seeking a highly qualified executive to run our company who meets the following requirements:

- Strong public speaking skills
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- Minimum eight years experience President of the United States of America or equivalent nation
- Strongly prefer the first black editor of Harvard Law Review
- Must currently hold a national approval rating of 57.2% or higher
- Passed comprehensive healthcare reform
- Natural born citizen of the United States
- Proficient in Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint

The ideal candidate will be excited to travel for work and be a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Women and minorities are strongly encouraged to apply.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:39:02am

re: #234 Anymouse

And yet no churches of significance calling this out … they sure were loud when news floated around about Christians being killed.

Since so many churches paint atheists (we’re evil) and liberals (we’re also evil) with such a broad brush, I’ll just keep that as a reminder when I was first introduced to the concept of religious compassion in Christianity I laughed my head off. (Literally.)

There are compassionate Christians to be sure, but they would be compassionate if they were any other religion or none. It isn’t religion that makes one compassionate, it is empathy.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens here in Texas. Last year, when Abbott attempted to block refugees in Texas, some of the churches sued and won, and they took some of the refugees in.

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:41:21am

re: #181 darthstar

Okay..score one…no, two points for Ted Cruz. First, his photo (he played for Duke?) and his response to being told to eat shit.

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Ted Cruz went to Princeton. Perhaps his high school was called Duke?

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mmmirele  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:43:44am

Well, the last 24 hours have been interesting. Yesterday afternoon I got to see a NASCAR-style crash on the freeway right in front of me. This morning, I got up at 5 am as usual, got ready and drove to work. Sixteen miles later, just as I’m about to turn in the parking lot, my brother called. Thankfully, I have one of those newfangled cars with Bluetooth so it routed right to the dashboard. It was my brother, who basically has been throwing up for the last 24 hours and needed me to take him to the ER. I turned around, drove to my mom’s and, yup, he was in bad shape. So now I’m sitting in a cube at the ER with mom and brother. What fun.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:45:39am

re: #239 mmmirele

Hoping that turns out well.. You’ve had a rough 24 hours to say the least.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:45:58am

ISN’T THIS RIDICULOUS?

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:50:10am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:50:27am

The string that follows this tweet by Gayle Forman pretty much sums up why this “let’s give them what they want to show them why they’re wrong” argument won’t work:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:51:09am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it is the same as “Running it up the flagpole and seeing if anyone salutes it”…

dump it and see if anyone flushes it…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:56:56am
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Franklin  Jan 25, 2017 • 7:58:56am
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:04:08am
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mmmirele  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:05:43am

re: #176 Dave In Austin

Oh Please!!! Read this story!
texastribune.org

His Twitter says he’s in Scottsdale, but WHERE?

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:07:37am

Not for all the gold in your Fort Knox:

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:13:04am

Guys, it’s only the 3rd real day of DT’s presidency. Let’s give him a chance.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:14:43am

re: #224 Lupin

I don’t think there’s really a safe place on the planet right now. Yes, he might lay waste to the US, and that’s plenty bad enough, but his insanity vis-a-vis NATO, the Chinese, the Russians, global trade, is making the entire world as a whole a far less predictable place.

As i posted above, the Western Europeans are sh*tt*ng in their pants right now & steps are being taken to shield themselves against rogue US behavior. It’s not being widely reported, but it’s quite amazing. (Got a friend in the aerospace industry, hence the gossip.)

Yes, true. That’s the counter-argument - do we sell the house we’ve worked so hard for along with most of or possessions to move to another country and start over, only to be looking at creeping fascism wherever we go?

Big decision. I hate being an adult some days.

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I cannot.  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:14:57am

re: #250 Sir John Barron

Needs about 16000 moar sarc tags…

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Bass Reeves  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:15:00am

Hey Anymouse, was I reading that correctly? The self-sustaining salt of the earth never took a handout from nobody farmers around you would accept internet subsidized by the coastal elites? Like a gofundme to give that dude who flies a confederate flag near you faster access to Fox and Breitbart?

Also, just curious. Have the Nebraska Democrats been more receptive when you met them face to face?

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Lupin  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:15:48am

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel

There’s been recent articles about Germany and Japan looking for nukes. Here is one in French about Germany:

link

Here is one from Haaretz about no longer sharing intelligence:

link

As I wrote above, I was told the ESA (European Spatial Agency) will no longer be sharing date with the US and the UK.

It’s terrifying; it’s happening very quickly, and will have far-reaching, unforeseeable consequences.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:17:12am

re: #65 unproven innocence

Kaspersky Lab Top Manager Arrested Over Treason Charges - Reports
(c) Flickr/ Andrzej Cybulski
Russia 06:27 25.01.2017 (updated 11:23 25.01.2017)

They are a little slow getting this news out.

Hey, those courier pigeons need a break.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:18:17am

I seriously underestimated how much damage DT would do in the first three years days of his presidency.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:20:18am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

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I missed it: what ‘jobs agenda’?

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I cannot.  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:21:31am

re: #255 BlueSpotinAL

And seeing this, this makes me reconsider using ANY Kaspersky lab products. A manager charged with treason…what were the details of the crime?

Perhaps revealing a backdoor into Kaspersky products? Perhaps a backdoor that Vladimir Vladimirovich could access?

Remember, its not paranoia if they really ARE out to get you.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:22:52am

We were talking about this guy yesterday, a wingnut state senator from Papillion, a suburb of Omaha.

starherald.com
(Goes to the Scottsbluff NE Star-Herald, more at the link)

LINCOLN — Embattled State Sen. Bill Kintner is resigning from the Nebraska Legislature following months of criticism from lawmakers, constituents and Gov. Pete Ricketts.

Kintner’s resignation is effective Jan. 30.

The Papillion senator’s expulsion from the Legislature was likely to have occurred later Wednesday had he not stepped down.

Kintner, 56, announced his decision to resign during an 8:15 a.m. press conference at the State Capitol, less than an hour ahead of when lawmakers planned to take up a motion to expel him.

Ricketts will appoint Kintner’s replacement to represent District 2, which includes Cass County and parts of Sarpy and Otoe Counties. The appointee will serve until 2018.

Kintner, who admitted last year to using a state laptop to engage in cybersex with a woman he met online, became the target of a barrage of criticism during legislative floor debate this week after he retweeted a Twitter post that appeared to make light of sexual assault.

Speaker of the Legislature Jim Scheer, who planned to introduce the motion to expel Kintner, said Tuesday he thought he had the required 33 votes to adopt it.

Nearly half of the Legislature’s 49 senators told The World-Herald that they would vote to remove Kintner from office. The majority of the remaining senators said they were unsure how they would vote.

Two lawmakers — Sens. Curt Friesen of Henderson and Mike Groene of North Platte — ruled out expulsion, saying they supported censure.

Kintner’s expulsion would have been unprecedented in the 80-year history of the unicameral Legislature.

Until now, Kintner had defied calls for his resignation. That included requests from the Cass County Republican Party and Ricketts, who reiterated his call as recently as this week.

Kintner is married to Lauren Kintner, who leads Ricketts’ policy research office.

Sen. Kintner faced particular pressure from Sen. Ernie Chambers of Omaha, who for months distributed poems and drawings criticizing Kintner.

Chambers has said that Kintner’s $1,000 fine for misuse of state property wasn’t a severe enough penalty, and chastised other senators for remaining silent on the issue.

In the 2015 videoconferencing incident, Kintner masturbated with a woman he met on Facebook.

A conservative Republican, Kintner on Tuesday said he was “very troubled by the liberal activist campaign that is using my mistake on the tweet to escalate calls for my resignation.”

He also criticized Chambers, saying the Omaha senator’s agenda to remove him from office has been clear since last summer.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:24:21am

re: #258 I cannot.

Or maybe he wouldn’t put in a backdoor?

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:24:35am

re: #253 Bass Reeves

Hey Anymouse, was I reading that correctly? The self-sustaining salt of the earth never took a handout from nobody farmers around you would accept internet subsidized by the coastal elites? Like a gofundme to give that dude who flies a confederate flag near you faster access to Fox and Breitbart?

Also, just curious. Have the Nebraska Democrats been more receptive when you met them face to face?

Nope. (I met the county Democrats.) They forgot about me. Haven’t heard from them or got a call returned since.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:26:22am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

I missed it: what ‘jobs agenda’?

There’s CIA Black Site Prison jobs
There’s wall building jobs
There’s more jobs since there won’t be refugee job seeker jobs
There’s scientific data suppression jobs
and,
There’s the future grave digging jobs after “repeal & replace”

//

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:28:02am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Bass Reeves  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:28:10am

re: #261 Anymouse

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:29:28am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:33:11am

re: #264 Bass Reeves

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:33:48am
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:34:00am

re: #263 gocart mozart

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:34:10am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

I missed it: what ‘jobs agenda’?

I thought the same thing - what fucking ‘jobs agenda?’

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:35:51am

re: #269 makeitstop

I thought the same thing - what fucking ‘jobs agenda?’

Maybe the tens—tens—of jobs coming with the Keystone pipeline?

Maybe Chicago Tribune didn’t notice the federal hiring freeze, which is not a jobs agenda.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:37:55am

re: #263 gocart mozart

Again, with the whole THEY AREN’T VETTING THE REFUGEES stuff.

Lies.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:38:07am

re: #270 Sir John Barron

Maybe the tens—tens—of jobs coming with the Keystone pipeline?

Maybe Chicago Tribune didn’t notice the federal hiring freeze, which is not a jobs agenda.

It’s a veterans hiring freeze.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:38:14am
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Bass Reeves  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:38:17am

re: #266 Anymouse

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:38:38am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:39:43am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

Again, with the whole THEY AREN’T VETTING THE REFUGEES stuff.

Lies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:40:49am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Greenpeace protesters got their “resist’ sign hanging in front of the White House to send a message to Trump. on.wusa9.com

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:40:49am

re: #263 gocart mozart

It isn’t uncompassionate to ask D effin T for his MF tax returns.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:41:07am

re: #263 gocart mozart

If the Good Samaritan had thought to first vet the man on the side of the road.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:42:20am

re: #279 Belafon

If the Good Samaritan had thought to first vet the man on the side of the road.

Maybe the man who was robbed on the road to Jericho should haven’t been traveling the Jericho road.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:44:21am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:47:45am

re: #274 Bass Reeves

Well, the state party Website is functional, and the last update urges people to register to vote for the 2016 election.

The county Website is no more; it was pulled down after our election-watching party (the time I met everyone else for my first and last time).

The state party lists the contacts for my county:

nebraskademocrats.org

The DSA seems to be better organised here in the Panhandle (they contacted me this morning to go up to Chadron to meet with a bunch of people from there, Alliance, and Scottsbluff).

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:49:01am

re: #281 FormerDirtDart

Yes. CNN had to ask that question? Do they have journalists or Pet Rocks for presenters?

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b.d.  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:49:06am

yep…

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:50:37am

re: #284 b.d.

yep…

And maybe that’s why we have to be stuck in this universe.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:51:25am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:55:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:56:29am

re: #130 Romantic Heretic

They have personal experience with people like Trump.

…and that is the awful realization I am coming to: we may well just have to go through this stage of our social development before we can learn how to keep it from happening again.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:56:32am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

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Martin keeps up and he’s going to be summoned to the White House for a cashiering ceremony in the press room.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 8:58:45am

re: #289 Timothy Watson

Martin keeps up and he’s going to be summoned to the White House for a cashiering ceremony courts-martial in the press room.

I’m expecting a military purge soon.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:01:13am

re: #290 Anymouse

I doubt it with Mattis as SecDef.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:01:54am

re: #289 Timothy Watson

Martin keeps up and he’s going to be summoned to the White House for a cashiering ceremony in the press room.

Martin took command of 1st Infantry Division in September, after the previous commander was removed due to “a loss of confidence in his ability to lead “

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:02:03am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and that is the awful realization I am coming to: we have to go through this stage of our social development before we can learn how to keep it from happening again.

History doesn’t repeat. It stutters. And for some, it’s on an endless feedback loop.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:02:14am

Past my bedtime. G’night (morning) to everyone.

How will I get to sleep? No gunfire at the river today to help me doze off. Did the hunters already kill everything?

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:03:08am

re: #294 Anymouse

Past my bedtime. G’night (morning) to everyone.

How will I get to sleep? No gunfire at the river today to help me doze off. Did the hunters already kill everything?

If you had a smart phone, you could probably find an app that would play those sounds for you.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:03:16am

re: #291 Belafon

I doubt it with Mattis as SecDef.

He can be purged too. He is now in the Cabinet and serves at the pleasure of the President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:05:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:07:58am

re: #232 Belafon

We’re a shining example of a Christian Nation.

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That’s right: we are willing to go to great lengths to keep it that way!

/

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:08:03am

re: #263 gocart mozart

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CuriousLurker  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:09:13am

I can’t stay, but take note that more Breitbart people are being brought into the the White House. Yay—what could possibly go wrong? //

The Fight for the Soul of the Republican Party Has Been Canceled

There are hints in the air that the long-predicted ideological schism within the Republican Party between populists and traditional conservatives is breaking open. Donald Trump’s unusually populist inaugural address, almost devoid of traditional conservative themes, seemed to break new ideological ground. Unlike most Republicans who try to ape the rhetorical tropes associated with Ronald Reagan, Trump instead tried to recall the stylings of Andrew Jackson. “It was an unvarnished declaration of the basic principles of his populist and kind of nationalist movement,” chief strategist Steve Bannon told the Washington Post. “I don’t think we’ve had a speech like that since Andrew Jackson came to the White House,” Bannon said. “But you could see it was very Jacksonian.” Meanwhile, Trump has hired Julia Hahn, a 25-year-old Breitbart staffer who has savaged Paul Ryan for his past support for immigration reform, alarming allies of the House Speaker. […]

nymag.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:09:19am

this eejit sheriff in Ohio:

Exclusive:Butler Co. Sheriff Jones writes letters to President,Ohio Gov & AG asking funding cuts for “sanctuary cities” @Local12

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:10:06am

The important things… making sure that the yam is comfortable in his new digs and considers them elegant.

No shit. It’s at taxpayer expense. We paid for it. Can’t say that you paid for it though since there’s no evidence you paid income tax at any point in past 20 years.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:11:09am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh, I’m loving that a lot of federal employees are resisting. Nice subtweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:12:42am

re: #302 lawhawk

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The important things… making sure that the yam is comfortable in his new digs and considers them elegant.

No shit. It’s at taxpayer expense. We paid for it. Can’t say that you paid for it though since there’s no evidence you paid income tax at any point in past 20 years.

Did he piss on the bed the Obamas slept in?

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:13:46am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Depends….

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:13:59am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Did he piss on the bed the Obamas slept in?

Someone should do an FOIA request to see who’s been at the White House late at night.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:14:15am

re: #305 lawhawk

Depends on whether the Obamas took the bed or not. Or whether Trump brought his own.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:14:48am

re: #292 FormerDirtDart

Martin took command of 1st Infantry Division in September, after the previous commander was removed due to “a loss of confidence in his ability to lead “

One of the things to look for in a dictatorship-in-waiting is a purge of military officers.

While officers are occasionally removed for crimes, dereliction-of-duty, or loss of confidence, look for officers who seemingly are relieved for a perceived lack of loyalty.

The Navy frequently removes commanders for everything from loss-of-confidence to running a ship aground.

Duffel Blog (a satire site) satirised the Navy’s frequent relief of commanders noting an admiral was relieved for loss-of-confidence for not relieving enough officers.

duffelblog.com

WASHINGTON — Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Adm. Robert Burke has been relieved of his duties due to complete lack of confidence in his ability to hastily lead and relieve commanders, the Navy said today.

According to the official Navy release, Burke was relieved “due to not upholding the Navy’s long-standing tradition of failing to develop competent leaders, putting them into positions of increased responsibility prematurely, and subjectively tossing them by the wayside at a unsustainable rate.”

“This is the U.S. Navy. There are no second chances when it comes to the high-stakes game of maintaining the freedom of the seas,” said Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John M. Richardson, regarding the service which has not fought in a major naval battle since WWII, let alone sunk an enemy ship since 1988. “We demand the very best, and we will fire every commander in the Navy until we figure out what exactly constitutes ‘the very best.’”

“Most importantly of all,” added Richardson, “we won’t tell anyone what that is if we do.”

Outgoing Navy secretary Ray Mabus echoed Richarson’s non-committal and nebulous comments to reporters earlier this week. He also revealed that Burke had been under investigation for “quite some time” regarding allegations of “encouraging mentorship and empowerment” of subordinate commanders.

“The last 70 years of failed American foreign policy notwithstanding, this is a zero-defect environment,” said Richardson. “We want to send a clear message to our leaders: failure to enforce standards, no matter how vague or impossible to achieve, are grounds for immediate dismissal.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:16:09am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:19:11am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

Grr! Go get him, Ms. Babushka!

Starving children by taking food stamps doesn’t really qualify as pro-life either.

Must be another alternative fact.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:21:27am
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Franklin  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:24:22am

To all those that say entertainers should shut up and stick to acting: Fuck off.

Political advocacy and advocating for the marginalized is the same. fucking. thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:29:29am
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mmmirele  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:29:35am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:30:49am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:31:39am

re: #315 mmmirele

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:31:42am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

The fact this is even necessary…fuck.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:35:47am
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Amory Blaine  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:36:26am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:36:57am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:38:35am

re: #315 mmmirele

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:39:55am

re: #321 Jenner7

Well, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much if he is using his unsecure Android phone, since every thought he has he blasts out on Twitter. I don’t think a secure phone would make much difference (unless it couldn’t access Twitter).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:42:16am
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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:42:25am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:42:58am

re: #323 Anymouse

Well, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much if he is using his unsecure Android phone, since every thought he has he blasts out on Twitter. I don’t think a secure phone would make much difference (unless it couldn’t access Twitter).

If somebody hacked his unsecured phone, we’d know it because the Tweets would start to make sense.

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:43:13am

re: #323 Anymouse

Think about what information is on the phone though.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:43:16am

re: #323 Anymouse

Actually it matters a great deal since his phone could get hijacked so that it could be used to surreptitiously record audio/video without the user knowing.

That has direct consequences for US national security.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:43:38am
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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:44:16am

re: #329 Stanley Sea

“But he’s one of the good guys.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:44:24am

re: #329 Stanley Sea

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Projection yet again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:44:58am
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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:45:08am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:45:43am

Bristol Palin Has Some Serious Questions for Feminists (goes to Wonkette)

Bristol Palin decided to question what was going on with all this Women’s March stuff, so Wonkette took her questions and answered them for her.

I suspect Ms. Abstinance Palin probably doesn’t read Wonkette, but it would be funny if someone posted that to her blog at Patheos. (Why does a religion and spirituality blogging site like Patheos give her a platform? Is she supposed to be some sort of religious icon? The fact she is there is exactly why I won’t go read anything at that Website. I’ll just let Wonkette take a hit for the team to follow her and report back with drum loads of snark.)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:46:06am

The governor of Georgia thought he had Fed help on the way, but it was only Alternative Assistance.

13wmaz.com

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:46:36am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

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Hey now, Custer may have been an Indian murderer, but he served with distinction during the Civil War.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:47:04am

re: #327 Jenner7

Think about what information is on the phone though.

The phone numbers to a couple women in Moscow (ew ew ew)?

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:47:34am

re: #152 darthstar

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And so the book burning begins.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:49:40am

re: #329 Stanley Sea

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Some illegal probably pretended to be Bannon in order to vote for Clinton in Florida.///

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:51:03am

re: #335 Decatur Deb

The governor of Georgia thought he had Fed help on the way, but it was only Alt-Assistance.

13wmaz.com

FEMA will send a truckload of bootstraps.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:51:32am

re: #340 Big Beautiful Door

FEMA will send a truckload of bootstraps.

On loan.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:52:17am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

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Upding for riff on one of my favorite movies, Little Big Man

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:53:16am

re: #342 Big Beautiful Door

Upding for riff on one of my favorite movies, Little Big Man

One of mine too. Definitely my favorite Western. Loved Chief Dan George in it.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:53:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:56:34am

re: #346 gocart mozart

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But Trump is better than Hillary on FP.//

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:56:38am

No new deals!

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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:56:40am
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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:56:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:57:09am

re: #345 gocart mozart

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That’s one ugly baby.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:57:45am
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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:57:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 9:59:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:00:02am

re: #353 gocart mozart

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Yep. Good on them.

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Franklin  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:00:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:00:14am
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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:00:57am
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:03:49am
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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:04:37am

>The United States spends about $600 million a year on international assistance for family planning and reproductive health programs, making it possible for 27 million women and couples to access contraceptive services and supplies.

None of that money is spent on performing abortions. The Helms Amendment has prevented U.S. tax dollars from funding overseas abortions since 1973. Proponents of the global gag rule believe the policy is nevertheless still necessary, arguing that Helms isn’t strong enough by itself.

But the Guttmacher Institute and other opponents of the gag rule say that such restrictions have devastating effects on international organizations, often forcing them to close their clinics or reduce their services, denying women access to help from safe providers and even hampering HIV prevention efforts.

“In reality, attempts to stop abortion through restrictive laws ― or by withholding family planning aid ― can never eliminate abortion, because those methods do not eliminate women’s need for abortion. … Where abortion is permitted on broad legal grounds, it is generally much safer than where it is highly restricted,” Guttmacher wrote in a 2015 report.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:05:01am
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Franklin  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:06:15am

Ha!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:06:58am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are you going to personally inspect those Black sites to ensure no torture is being conduct there, Senator?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:07:01am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s not torture, it’s alternative Jeopardy.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:07:16am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

But you supported him after he slagged your military service, Senator.

Party before country. Mr. Maverick won’t oppose him. He will get lined up for another week of Sunday propaganda discussion shows.

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:07:16am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:07:54am

re: #364 Decatur Deb

It’s not torture, it’s alternative Jeopardy.

Or alternative Survivor.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:09:48am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Law means nothing if no one enforces it.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:10:18am

The little boy hiding in me is loving this twitter account:

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:11:04am

No EO on Muslim Ban today….

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:11:46am

re: #370 Jenner7

No EO on Muslim Ban today….

Waiting for their Sabbath.

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:11:56am
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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:12:38am
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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:12:59am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

this eejit sheriff in Ohio:

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Looks like he is trying to get in on the Trump action and get some face time. As far as I can tell, the closest sanctuary cities near him is Dayton and Columbus. I don’t think Cincy is. So I bet he is just overrun with Syrians and others from the ME.

Fuck off Sheriff.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:13:20am

NYT uses the ‘L’ word again. Man-Baby’s gonna be, umm, pissed.

Trump Won’t Back Down From His Voting Fraud Lie. Here Are the Facts.

During a private meeting with congressional leaders on Monday, President Trump asserted that between three million and five million unauthorized immigrants had voted for his Democratic opponent and robbed him of a victory in the national popular vote.

There is no evidence to support the claim, which has been discredited repeatedly by numerous fact-checkers.

That did not stop Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, from standing by the president’s words on Tuesday during a briefing with reporters at the White House. “As I said, I think the president has believed that for a while based on studies and information he has,” Mr. Spicer said.

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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:14:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:15:03am

re: #376 Jenner7

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Wut?

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:15:09am

re: #373 Jenner7

Considering the crime rate among immigrants is lower than the general population, what safety?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:16:31am

re: #375 makeitstop

NYT uses the ‘L’ word again. Man-Baby’s gonna be, umm, pissed.

Note how Spicer cleans this toilet bowl:

“It’s a fact.”

“He truly believes.”

” I think the president has believed that…”

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Franklin  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:16:50am

godfuckingdammit.gif

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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:18:12am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:18:27am

I don’t use the right-wing made-up term “sanctuary city.” The whole idea is to shift the moral and legal burden, such as the made-up term “pro-life.”

Cities are not required to expend money to enforce Federal laws. That is the job of the Federal government, and no city has ever tried to prevent ICE or any other Federal organisation from carrying out their duties.

The term is a misdirection from the real goal: defunding locales. All they have to do is say “city X is a sanctuary city because it is not co-operating” and that’s it.

Call it what it is: hostage-taking. Bullying. Forcing others to do your work at their expense. Federal overreach.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:20:13am

re: #382 Anymouse

“Pay to hold that prisoner until we have time to take a look at him.”
“How long will that take?”
“We’re in the process of hiring agents.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:20:57am

re: #374 ObserverArt

Looks like he is trying to get in on the Trump action and get some face time. As far as I can tell, the closest sanctuary cities near him is Dayton and Columbus. I don’t think Cincy is. So I bet he is just overrun with Syrians and others from the ME.

Fuck off Sheriff.

Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones is famous for his opposition to undocumented workers. Now one of his victims has fought back and won $100,000.00!

Luis Rodriguez was hanging drywall at a construction site in Butler County when Sheriff staff members entered the work site as part of an “immigration investigation” and rounded up over 20 Hispanic workers. Twelve workers were fired after questioning by the sheriff staff. Mr. Rodriguez was arrested based on documents that he possessed. Attorney George Fee vigorously represented Mr. Rodriguez in the criminal case and won an acquittal. But once in custody, Mr. Rodriguez was removed from the country along with his wife and two children. They had lived in Southern Ohio for eleven years working, paying taxes, and attending a local Christian Church. They are now living in poverty in Mexico.

Attorney Al Gerhardstein sued Sheriff Jones on behalf of Mr. Rodriguez. He claimed that Mr. Rodriguez was “seized” when he was taken to the construction trailer at the worksite for interrogation in violation of the Fourth Amendment. He also alleged a violation of the Equal Protection Clause. In addition, Gerhardstein argued that the Sheriff did not have power to enforce the federal civil immigration law. The case was pending on motions for summary judgment and only weeks away from trial when the County agreed to pay $100,000 in settlement of the claims.

gbfirm.com

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Birth Control Works  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:21:10am

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:22:55am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:24:02am

The “share your thoughts” link at the White House Website is now dead.

No surprise there for some reason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:24:47am
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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:25:52am

re: #382 Anymouse

I don’t use the right-wing made-up term “sanctuary city.” The whole idea is to shift the moral and legal burden, such as the made-up term “pro-life.”

I think it was made up by those who wish to provide sanctuary to people who fear deportation.

Cities are not required to expend money to enforce Federal laws. That is the job of the Federal government, and no city has ever tried to prevent ICE or any other Federal organisation from carrying out their duties.

The term is a misdirection from the real goal: defunding locales. All they have to do is say “city X is a sanctuary city because it is not co-operating” and that’s it.

Call it what it is: hostage-taking. Bullying. Forcing others to do your work at their expense. Federal overreach.

No argument there. I would add that deportation and creating fear are also real goals. The fear they create enables the low (or no) wages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:26:36am
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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:26:44am

re: #388 Anymouse

The “share your thoughts” link at the White House Website is now dead.

No surprise there for some reason.

If President Trump wants your opinion, he’ll give it to you.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:27:01am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart

Has the press contacted the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois? I’m betting no. Too busy trying to maintain access to the White House and Lie Press Secretary to think of calling up the mayor of Chicago over a little threat to send in Federal agents into his city.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:28:32am

re: #382 Anymouse

I don’t use the right-wing made-up term “sanctuary city.” The whole idea is to shift the moral and legal burden, such as the made-up term “pro-life.”

Cities are not required to expend money to enforce Federal laws. That is the job of the Federal government, and no city has ever tried to prevent ICE or any other Federal organisation from carrying out their duties.

The term is a misdirection from the real goal: defunding locales. All they have to do is say “city X is a sanctuary city because it is not co-operating” and that’s it.

Call it what it is: hostage-taking. Bullying. Forcing others to do your work at their expense. Federal overreach.

Unfunded mandates anyone? /

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Colère Tueur de Lapin - merde, nous allons mour  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:29:09am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

He really does look like the drunk uncle at the tail end of a binge.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:29:20am

re: #392 Belafon

If President Trump wants your opinion, he’ll give it to you.

This is called “Returning Government to the People”.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:29:41am
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Jenner7  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:29:41am

Why won’t reporters point out that dead people on voting rolls or registered in several states doesn’t amount to actual real votes tallied??

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:30:33am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s nearly 10% of the population if you count the suburbs.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:30:50am

re: #398 Jenner7

Why won’t reporters point out that dead people on voting rolls or registered in several states doesn’t amount to actual real votes tallied??

Because that does not sell more Accuras or ED drugs.

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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:30:57am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:31:36am

bullshit

.@PressSec says White House has not ordered “media blackout” at EPA, federal agencies: cbsn.ws

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:31:55am

re: #390 wrenchwench

I think it was made up by those who wish to provide sanctuary to people who fear deportation.

No argument there. I would add that deportation and creating fear are also real goals. The fear they create enables the low (or no) wages.

The term is actually thousands of years old, but it entered US politics only recently (courtesy Wikipedia):

This issue entered presidential politics in the race for the Republican Party presidential nomination in 2008. Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo ran on an anti-illegal immigration platform and specifically attacked sanctuary cities. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney accused former mayor Rudy Giuliani of running New York City as a sanctuary city. Giuliani’s campaign responded saying that Romney ran a sanctuary Governor’s mansion, and that New York City is not a “haven” for undocumented immigrants.

After the murder of a restaurant waitress in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in late June 2009 that was suspected to be perpetrated by three undocumented immigrants (one of whom was not deported despite being arrested for two prior DUI incidents), then mayoral candidate Richard J. Berry decried the city’s sanctuary city policy. He also vowed, if elected, to repeal the policy that has been continued by the incumbent mayor, Martin Chávez.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:32:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:33:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:34:00am
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:34:21am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

I knew the U word was coming soon.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:34:21am

re: #398 Jenner7

Why won’t reporters point out that dead people on voting rolls or registered in several states doesn’t amount to actual real votes tallied??

re: #401 Decatur Deb

Because that does not sell more Accuras or ED drugs.

Because stenographers need access. Journalists need facts, and such people work for the BBC, CBC, or Deutsche Welle, not American media outlets.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:34:35am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why not Detroit! We are also a Border Town!

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:35:04am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fiscal conservatism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:35:06am
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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:36:24am

re: #410 The Vicious Babushka

Why not Detroit! We are also a Border Town!

And Port Huron and Sault Ste. Marie as well. (I’m sorry I didn’t swing by when I blew through Sarnia to my hometown last summer. I would have if I’d have known I was so close to you at the time.)

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:37:07am

re: #390 wrenchwench

I think it was made up by those who wish to provide sanctuary to people who fear deportation.

No argument there. I would add that deportation and creating fear are also real goals. The fear they create enables the low (or no) wages.

Columbus is a proud “sanctuary city” and even with all the damn hysteria over the past few years everyone seems to get along fine. This is outrage caused by the likes of Trump and the idiots that listen to him and FOX News.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:37:13am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let me guess: vote fraud ‘investigation’ finds that the state of California has 8 million undocumented immigrants, all of whom voted in the election, all of whom voted for HRC, hence, California had 8 million fraudulent votes. DT won popular vote.

//

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:37:25am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Miami… Are all sanctuary Cites

If he goes forward with defunding these cities, they should just retaliate by withholding their tax revenues.

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:38:49am

re: #393 Anymouse

Has the press contacted the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois? I’m betting no. Too busy trying to maintain access to the White House and Lie Press Secretary to think of calling up the mayor of Chicago over a little threat to send in Federal agents into his city.

I suggest the issue IS the mayor of Chicago.

Rahm Emanuel

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:39:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:39:35am

but, of course…

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:39:39am

re: #400 Birth Control Works

Texas Radio Station Bans Madonna After Speech at Women’s March
“It just feels wrong to us to be playing Madonna songs … when the artist has shown un-American sentiments,” station manager says

Wait, Madonna still gets airplay? /

I’m sure Madge is somewhere sobbing due to the massive loss of revenue from a radio station in Texarkana.

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Anymouse  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:39:49am

re: #416 makeitstop

If he goes forward with defunding these cities, they should just retaliate by withholding their tax revenues.

Mr. Trump doesn’t have that authority, the wingnuts in Congress do.

I am half-tempted to advance a proclamation at the next regular village board meeting here declaring my town of 124 a sanctuary city. It would get shot down, but the looks on the faces of the other board members would be priceless.

Since we don’t get Federal funds, they can’t take anything from us.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:40:46am

re: #247 lawhawk

The Bernie or busters I know are saying this is all necessary. “FOR THE REVOLUTION!”… and yes. They are for the most part upper middle class white males who will be minimally effected by anything Trump tries to do.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:40:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:41:28am
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:41:37am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:42:41am
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:43:05am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:43:57am

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

feature, not a bug.

/

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:44:03am

re: #427 jaunte

Someone should mention to Trump that the phone makes it easy to track his specific location.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:44:14am

re: #427 jaunte

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WHY DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO RUIN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR HIM?!!??!?!

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:44:47am

salon.com

After a video posted on Facebook showed a group of people shouting epithets at former North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory during his trip to D.C. for inaugural weekend, a state senator from North Carolina has proposed legislation that would insulate public officials from verbal criticism.

Yes, it is blatantly unconstitutional. The NC GOP has enough votes to over-ride any veto, however, and they will absolutely use this to arrest people.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:45:03am

re: #430 Timothy Watson

WHY DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO RUIN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR HIM?!!??!?!

STOP DEMORALIZING ME!!

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:45:06am

re: #429 Belafon

I think as an exhibitionist he would find that a positive.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:45:11am

Although this will make little sense among the deplorables since they reject math, science, data, and facts:

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:45:13am

re: #421 Anymouse

Mr. Trump doesn’t have that authority, the wingnuts in Congress do.

I am half-tempted to advance a proclamation at the next regular village board meeting here declaring my town of 124 a sanctuary city. It would get shot down, but the looks on the faces of the other board members would be priceless.

Since we don’t get Federal funds, they can’t take anything from us.

Do it! :)

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:45:41am

re: #431 Scottish Dragon

The NC GOP has enough votes to over-ride any veto

That’s unfortunate.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:47:39am

This is so fucking insane.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:49:23am

re: #434 Dr. Matt

Of course, and what you said is entirely logical.

I’m overseas, but registered to vote in Clark County, WA, as that was my last residence in the USA before I moved over here. Now if (heaven forbid) I dropped dead tomorrow or got hit by a truck while crossing the street, etc., I’d be still showing as a registered voter until the Clark County Auditor received official notification that I was, in fact, no longer among the living.

How long that would take, I really don’t know, but I presume it might be awhile.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:49:24am

RE Trump’s suggestion he would “send” federal government assets into Chicago to force the city into…something.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:50:05am

What a shithole america is descending into.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:50:19am

re: #439 Scottish Dragon

RE Trump’s suggestion he would “send” federal government assets into Chicago to force the city into…something.

Chicago will greet us as liberators….

/

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:51:32am

NYT:
Trump’s Draft Executive Order on Detention and Interrogation

The Trump administration has developed this draft executive order that would roll back a series of restrictions President Barack Obama set on the handling of detainees. The draft order calls for lifting a ban on C.I.A. prisons and directing the Pentagon to bring newly captured detainees to the Guantánamo Bay prison. JAN. 25, 2017
nytimes.com

So where did the document (headed Executive Order) come from?

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:52:06am

re: #437 jaunte

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This is so fucking insane.

He will go to any length to back up his bullshit.

And all he will do is create more bullshit…at a cost to taxpayers.

VonClownDick is going to end up running up a yooge deficit out of stupid unnecessary crap to make him look legit.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:52:14am

re: #437 jaunte

This is so fucking insane.

We will find the evidence or make it up. As long as I and Fox News believe it, it exists.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:52:18am

re: #443 jaunte

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NYT:
Trump’s Draft Executive Order on Detention and Interrogation

The Trump administration has developed this draft executive order that would roll back a series of restrictions President Barack Obama set on the handling of detainees. The draft order calls for lifting a ban on C.I.A. prisons and directing the Pentagon to bring newly captured detainees to the Guantánamo Bay prison. JAN. 25, 2017
nytimes.com

So where did the document (headed Executive Order) come from?

Heritage?

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:52:22am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

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This is in addition to the journalist and the RT shill who were scooped up (the latter obviously by mistake).

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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:54:41am

re: #443 jaunte

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So where did the document (headed Executive Order) come from?

Twitter DM.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:55:46am

re: #439 Scottish Dragon

RE Trump’s suggestion he would “send” federal government assets into Chicago to force the city into…something.

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Russian contractors. It worked great in Crimea.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 25, 2017 • 10:56:14am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

but, of course…

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Weather reports are conjecture, not facts.

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:11:01am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart

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I thought he knew some Chicago super-cop who could solve all the problems in cities. Didn’t he say that? Didn’t he mean that? What does his heart say?
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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:14:16am

re: #398 Jenner7

Why won’t reporters point out that dead people on voting rolls or registered in several states doesn’t amount to actual real votes tallied??

And does not constitute voter fraud—unless they vote—which they don’t—which has been documented over and over and over again.

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:16:36am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And with True the Vote (better known as Lie Your Ass Off) helping them out, I’m sure it will be a thorough, objective investigation.
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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:19:07am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

but, of course…

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Once again proving beyond a doubt that REPUBLICANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANALOGIES.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:23:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2017 • 11:25:25am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

US will probably pay Mexico to build the wall — material and labor will likely come from over the border

BAHAHAHAHA. Trump wall is getting outsourced!

Brilliant move: he will get them to do the work and provide the materials and then stiff them on payment.

/ wish It were just a satirical snark


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