BREAKING: Federal Judge Issues Stay Against Trump’s Executive Order Banning Muslims From Entering the US

The tiny-fisted fascist’s head is going to explode
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Finally, some good news to report. A federal judge in Brooklyn, New York, has issued a nationwide stay against Donald Trump’s disgusting un-American executive order banning Muslims from entering the US, even if they have green cards.

Need I mention that we can now expect a glorious 3 am Twitter freak out from the orange fascist? He’s been in office for one week, and his far right edicts are already getting shut down by the judicial system.

A “stay” is only temporary, of course, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see this go all the way to being declared unconstitutional and revoked permanently. It’s wrong.

UPDATE at 1/28/17 6:44:31 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s the judge’s order:

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304 comments

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:17:34pm

Thank goodness for Judge Donnelly.

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electrotek  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:18:05pm

Let freedom and liberty reign in the face of oppression and tyranny.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:19:02pm

Don’t care if it’s a communist slogan technically but Smrt fašizmu, svoboda narodu!.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:19:05pm

Gutsy call. Stay safe, your honor.

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stpaulbear  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:19:11pm

I wonder how much time Obama has spent on the phone today as a private citizen?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:19:22pm

Don’t get too excited, there’s more work to be done.

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Tarkloon  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:19:48pm

I’m awaiting the twitter tirade

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:20:26pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

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Don’t get too excited, there’s more work to be done.

Yep and you know they’re going to fight it and try to find a judge that will agree with them. This may even reach the USSC. This is exactly why the Supreme Court is important. if Garland had been confirmed, I’d feel a lot more comfortable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:20:37pm

re: #7 Tarkloon

I’m awaiting the twitter tirade

It’s going to be huuuuuge.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:21:42pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Yep and you know they’re going to fight it and try to find a judge that will agree with them. This may even reach the USSC. This is exactly why the Supreme Court is important. if Garland had been confirmed, I’d feel a lot more comfortable.

Just be glad they haven’t had time to force through Bork Jr.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:22:11pm

Judge Ann Donnelly rose to the bench last year.

brooklyneagle.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:22:13pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Yes, it’s temporary like all stays. But I think this EO is going down. It’s completely unconstitutional, prima facie.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:24:04pm

Reposted from downstairs:
re: #237 Anymouse

Is this like “Back to the Future?”

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yes but this time Biff is President.

This thread from a few days ago because of relevance. Wait for the punchline.

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MsJ  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:24:28pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s temporary like all stays. But I think this EO is going down. It’s completely unconstitutional, prima facie.

We’ll see if the SCOTUS believes in the constitution or are an arm of the GOP. At this point I’m rather 50/50.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:25:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:25:56pm

re: #10 William Lewis

Just be glad they haven’t had time to force through Bork Jr.

i think that judge would have to recuse themselves but yes.

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:26:13pm

re: #14 MsJ

We’ll see if the SCOTUS believes in the constitution or are an arm of the GOP. At this point I’m rather 50/50.

Indeed. Time to put this statement to a real-world test:

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stpaulbear  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:26:18pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

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Don’t get too excited, there’s more work to be done.

Does it apply to the people that were pulled off planes before they took off?

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:28:30pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

i think that judge would have to recuse themselves but yes.

You presume that a hand picked GOP puppet would care about the Constitution. Just look at Thomas’ history of refusing to recuse himself.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:28:52pm

re: #14 MsJ

We’ll see if the SCOTUS believes in the constitution or are an arm of the GOP. At this point I’m rather 50/50.

Assuming it reaches SCOTUS and it deadlocks in a 4-4 tie, would that just simply affirm this ruling (assuming it doesn’t go through additional courts in between)?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:29:10pm
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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:29:16pm

Sherrilyn Ifill ‏@Sifill_LDF now21 minutes ago

The ban is not “defeated.” It’s stayed. An important victory, but temporary and not complete. Expect the Administration to push back hard.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:29:43pm

And after years of cheering every time an EO was challenged in the courts, the Freepers are already flipping the fuck out, arguing that Trump effectively can override the judiciary, and that the judge should be removed from the bench for “activism.”

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MsJ  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:30:32pm

Huh?

BTW, I’m about 95% sure this twitter feed is fake and it’s not an insider. Shame.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:31:01pm

re: #22 jaunte

Sherrilyn Ifill ‏@Sifill_LDF now21 minutes ago

The ban is not “defeated.” It’s stayed. An important victory, but temporary and not complete. Expect the Administration to push back hard.

I expect Der Trumpenfuhrer to get out there screaming that the judge is an “Obama appointee” and thus anything that comes from that court is suspect because of the judge’s bias against him.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:31:02pm

re: #20 Myron Falwell

Assuming it reaches SCOTUS and it deadlocks in a 4-4 tie, would that just simply affirm this ruling (assuming it doesn’t go through additional courts in between)?

It depends. If it is upheld in appeal, and then deadlocks, it is upheld. If the appellate court turns it down, then that holds on deadlock. I do not see SCOTUS taking it direct from Brooklyn so there will be at least one appellate level first.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:32:36pm

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

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scottslemmons  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:33:07pm

re: #24 MsJ

Huh?

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BTW, I’m about 95% sure this twitter feed is fake and it’s not an insider. Shame.

I have no doubts that Bannon wants the US to break up. And I have no doubts that the Calexit scheme has its roots in Russia either.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:34:00pm

ALL people from SOME countries where terrorists have operated.
Totally illogical.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:34:07pm

re: #24 MsJ

Huh?

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BTW, I’m about 95% sure this twitter feed is fake and it’s not an insider. Shame.

One of the CalExit groups is definitively tied to Mother Russia, plus RWNJs have a wet dream about California secession. There’s a kernel of truth to it even if the account is likely fake.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:34:26pm

re: #27 jaunte

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

Not that that’s going to stop them from trying. I echo the sentiment expressed downstairs that the White House really is going to try to argue that Trump has effectively unlimited authority because nothing he does can be construed as illegal.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:35:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:35:38pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:36:49pm

If the DNC leadership is smart, come Monday morning they’ll have a bill ready in each house of Congress to overturn this ban. They’d have a snowball’s chance, but the optics would be awesome, minority members of Congress demanding a bunch of old white guys to defend this ban.

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:37:05pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:37:29pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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I suspect that Bannon’s choice for the SCOTUS bench will be announced a lot sooner than Thursday as originally planned.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:38:01pm

A small reminder of the stakes…

Peter Gabriel - Biko

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sauceruney  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:38:34pm

I just get the feeling that Trump doesn’t “President” on the weekend. We may not get that tweetstorm till Monday

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:39:12pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

I suspect that Bannon’s choice for the SCOTUS bench will be announced a lot sooner than Thursday as originally planned.

My money is still on Roy Moore. My prediction about Nov. 8 was way off, so this may be a good thing.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:39:23pm

Even in the belly of the beast (67% Trump) people are speaking out:

Facebook Post

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:39:23pm

re: #38 sauceruney

I just get the feeling that Trump doesn’t “President” on the weekend. We may not get that tweetstorm till Monday

His authority has been challenged, he’ll be wigging the fuck out shortly.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:39:53pm

re: #28 scottslemmons

I have no doubts that Bannon wants the US to break up. And I have no doubts that the Calexit scheme has its roots in Russia either.

Bingo…

ww2.kqed.org

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:40:00pm

re: #27 jaunte

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

I agree. And I think even the conservative justices on the Supreme Court will have to agree. Scalia was the worst one, and he’s gone. If Trump gets to appoint justices, though, we’re in big big trouble. The current court is still pretty much traditionally supportive of the constitution. Any justices Trump appoints are going to be far right crackpots who’ll do what he tells them.

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:40:02pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

His authority has been challenged, he’ll be wigging the fuck out shortly.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:40:09pm

re: #18 stpaulbear

Does it apply to the people that were pulled off planes before they took off?

Not exactly clear. As long as they retain their otherwise valid visas and can get on a flight before the temp order expires they should be fine. It’s the getting on a flight at this point that might be tricky since the stay specifically enjoins further “removal” actions from the United States. A stickler might read that as saying you need to actually make it here before it applies.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:40:44pm

re: #38 sauceruney

I just get the feeling that Trump doesn’t “President” on the weekend. We may not get that tweetstorm till Monday

Date night with Ivanka is tonight, so he may be busy for a while.

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MsJ  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:41:09pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

One of the CalExit groups is definitively tied to Mother Russia, plus RWNJs have a wet dream about California secession. There’s a kernel of truth to it even if the account is likely fake.

Oh, I’m sure. I believe what’s in the LA Times.

As for the twitter account, I’m thinking they might know someone or something. They tweeted support for Gabbard then deleted it.

I’m at the Fuck It stage. Tear Trump down. All that matters, entertainment or not.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:41:39pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I think Thomas is the worst one, by far.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:41:56pm

re: #46 Skip Intro

We need a “puke” button.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:41:57pm

re: #27 jaunte

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

Orly.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:42:18pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Esq?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:42:48pm
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wheat-dogg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:43:19pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Not exactly clear. As long as they retain their otherwise valid visas and can get on a flight before the temp order expires they should be fine. It’s the getting on a flight at this point that might be tricky since the stay specifically enjoins further “removal” actions from the United States. A stickler might read that as saying you need to actually make it here before it applies.

As I understand it, it applies to the people detained at airports now and others in transit — including those with green cards, valid visas and refugee status. It does not invalidate the EO entirely, but it will at least allow travelers to enter the country as they are legally entitled to.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:43:32pm

re: #27 jaunte

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

I don’t know, I bet one of those Liberty Counsel guys could find a way.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:44:28pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, I bet one of those Liberty Counsel guys could find a way.

Faith-based jurisprudence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:44:31pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Hell, even if this one gets thrown out I can about guarantee they’ll try again later.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:44:50pm

Here’s the judge’s order:

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wheat-dogg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:45:08pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, I bet one of those Liberty Counsel guys could find a way.

He said “convincingly.” Facts not in evidence.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:45:12pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Not exactly clear. As long as they retain their otherwise valid visas and can get on a flight before the temp order expires they should be fine. It’s the getting on a flight at this point that might be tricky since the stay specifically enjoins further “removal” actions from the United States. A stickler might read that as saying you need to actually make it here before it applies.

“one foot dry”?

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scottslemmons  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:45:23pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

I think Thomas is the worst one, by far.

I honestly think Alito would be down to support anything Trump wants. He makes Scalia look like a moderate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:45:35pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

He said “convincingly.” Facts not in evidence.

Bah! Point taken. :p

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:46:18pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

He said “convincingly.” Facts not in evidence.

Some people are more easily convinced than others.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:47:15pm

re: #54 wheat-dogg

As I understand it, it applies to the people detained at airports now and others in transit — including those with green cards, valid visas and refugee status. It does not invalidate the EO entirely, but it will at least allow travelers to enter the country as they are legally entitled to.

Right, but it’s still not clear to me exactly where the line is, whether it applies to all currently valid issued visa & green card holders, or those who’ve already bought tickets or just those who made it wheels up?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:47:33pm

ot.

Someone in CA used my Twitter to send out a spam about sunglasses for sale. Twitter sent me an email and I changed my password. Is that enough?

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:47:38pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Some people are more easily convinced than others.

You’re right, I see a lot of people convinced they’re Christians.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:47:44pm

The sad reality is if the EO hadn’t included green card holders, it might have actually had a leg to stand on. Argue standing of foreign aliens trying to enter the US, say they can’t challenge what is a “temporary” ban. By fucking over thousands of green card holders, people who are entitled to the protections of an American citizen, the EO gave thousands of people standing to challenge this ban in a federal court.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:48:06pm

This internal fascism cute and all but what the hell happens when a foreign power starts f*cking with Donald.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:48:19pm

re: #61 scottslemmons

I honestly think Alito would be down to support anything Trump wants. He makes Scalia look like a moderate.

Scalia, strangely, did care about the constitution. He may have had odd ideas about the interpretation of it but he cared and would sometimes surprise people.

Alito is just a puppet who only does what the farthest freak right tells him to do.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:49:27pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

The sad reality is if the EO hadn’t included green card holders, it might have actually had a leg to stand on. Argue standing of foreign aliens trying to enter the US, say they can’t challenge what is a “temporary” ban. By fucking over thousands of green card holders, people who are entitled to the protections of an American citizen, the EO gave thousands of people standing to challenge this ban in a federal court.

On this, I’m sort of glad that Trump & Co. are as feckless as the Keystone Kops.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:49:45pm

re: #68 b.d.

This internal fascism cute and all but what the hell happens when a foreign power starts f*cking with Donald.

Indeed, what happens when an ally (say Germany) says all US nationals are barred from entry. The fecal matter will really hit the rotary impeller then.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:49:55pm

Jackie Vimo @JackieVimo

4 factors have been met: Irreparable harm established, likelihood of success on merits, no harm to govt. Likelihood of class cert.

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:50:06pm

re: #11 wheat-dogg

Judge Ann Donnelly rose to the bench last year.

brooklyneagle.com

A toast to Judge Donnelly. She stood by the I Amendment today.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:50:14pm

re: #69 William Lewis

Scalia, strangely, did care about the constitution. He may have had odd ideas about the interpretation of it but he cared and would sometimes surprise people.

Alito is just a puppet who only does what the farthest freak right tells him to do.

Well, that is why Darth Cheney picked him…

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:51:29pm

Jackie Vimo ‏@JackieVimo 1h1 hour ago

Can you provide a list of who is detained. US: “We don’t know, people are coming in all the time.” Judge Donnelly: “Work it out.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:51:43pm

re: #27 jaunte

There’s no way a lawyer can convincingly argue this ban is legitimate.

I move for a bad court thingy.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:52:04pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

My uncertainty revolves around the focus on the term “removal.” Does denying someone at a foreign airport a seat on a flight constitute removal, and for that matter do US Constitutional Rights even apply to aliens refugees with US issued documents in foreign airports. This is why I think the current ruling may only really apply or even be enforceable with regards to those who’ve somehow made it to US soil.

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stpaulbear  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:52:22pm

One of the front-pagers at Balloon Juice just had a great name for Trump.

Dolt 45.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:53:04pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Indeed, what happens when an ally (say Germany) says all US nationals are barred from entry. The fecal matter will really hit the rotary impeller then.

Something that I’m sure that President Bannon would be counting on as pretexts to starting closing overseas bases and blowing up NATO and the UN.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:53:08pm

Jackie Vimo ‏@JackieVimo 23s23 seconds ago

US: “There are some people who might request to return to their country.” Judge: “I’m not directing you to trap them here!”

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MsJ  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:53:43pm

Awesome! Wow!

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:53:47pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:54:03pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

One of the front-pagers at Balloon Juice just had a great name for Trump.

Dolt 45.

It was a twitter hastag as well at one point :) I like this term someone on my FB feed came up with:

Braggadocios
Liar
Of
The
United
States

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:54:25pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

One of the CalExit groups is definitively tied to Mother Russia, plus RWNJs have a wet dream about California secession. There’s a kernel of truth to it even if the account is likely fake.

Yup. In addition to the RWNJ’s, Russia would certainly like to see the USA break up.

ww2.kqed.org

From His Home in Russia, Calexit Leader Plots California Secession

More at the link, the article begins:

On paper, the leader of the California secession movement lives in an apartment complex near San Diego’s Golden Hill neighborhood. But in reality, the Calexit campaign is being run by a 30-year-old who lives and works in a city on the edge of Siberia.

Louis Marinelli heads the secessionist group Yes California. Following the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, the organization has gone from an unknown fringe group to one discussed seriously in mainstream media.

What has not been discussed as prominently is Marinelli’s deep ties to Russia.

A former right-wing activist from Buffalo, New York, Marinelli first moved to Russia almost a decade ago. He studied at St. Petersburg State University, the alma mater of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He returned to the United States to campaign against LGBTQ rights as part of the National Organization for Marriage.

Marinelli then returned to Russia. He would marry a Russian citizen, and the couple moved to San Diego, where Marinelli launched a political career based on a platform of California secession.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:54:46pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Right, but it’s still not clear to me exactly where the line is, whether it applies to all currently valid issued visa & green card holders, or those who’ve already bought tickets or just those who made it wheels up?

Reading the judge’s order, it applies to anyone with a green card, a valid visa,and/or anyone from the seven countries Trump specifically mentions in the EO. So, I reckon it means all those stranded at airports, in the air now, and awaiting embarkation elsewhere in the world, and perhaps people in the process of traveling to the USA, but without tickets yet.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:55:58pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Indeed, what happens when an ally (say Germany) says all US nationals are barred from entry. The fecal matter will really hit the rotary impeller then.

Yeah, I can see a pro choice country barring all US entries due to the domestic US citizen committed terrorism at women’s clinics or something of the sort.

Donald opened this can of worms, we aren’t exactly innocent over here.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:57:30pm

Is there any way we can send a 5lb bag of cocaine to Bannon so he can go and meet his mentor?

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:57:58pm

re: #81 MsJ

Lovely. Just what the US needed. An even more empowered White House Nazi.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:58:11pm

re: #68 b.d.

This internal fascism cute and all but what the hell happens when a foreign power starts f*cking with Donald.

We don’t have long to wait for that.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:58:19pm

Trita Parsi Verified account ‏@tparsi 8h8 hours ago

I want to repeat: Green card holders were handcuffed, their social media was reviewed, and they were asked their views on Trump

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 6:59:28pm

Get ready for Bannon and his goons to “review your social media.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:00:27pm

re: #91 jaunte

And what if we do not have “social media?” We have to invent for them?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:00:37pm
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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:01:04pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

We don’t have long to wait for that.

We are kinda stuck until the wingnuts decide that they can install Pence without too much backlash…

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:01:26pm

re: #92 PhillyPretzel

“Have you always been an enthusiastic supporter of Our Leader President Trump?”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:01:33pm

re: #87 b.d.

Is there any way we can send a 5lb bag of cocaine to Bannon so he can go and meet his mentor?

Just what we needed. A real-life Scarface.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:02:14pm

re: #88 Whack-A-Mole

Lovely. Just what the US needed. An even more empowered White House Nazi.

With a seat to steer and influence our national security and intelligence policy.

God fucking help us…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:04:01pm

re: #95 jaunte

Sorry my hearing is not too good did you say athletic supporter?

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Sarahproudandtall  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:05:48pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Not my own work, I must admit. Stolen shamelessly from someone on here.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:05:51pm

re: #96 Myron Falwell

Just what we needed. A real-life Scarface.

Tony Montana was kinda fit. The only blood slowly sloshing through Bannon’s body seems to stop at his nose.

He’d croak after 2 minutes of kicking a Musim child.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:06:03pm
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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:06:30pm

re: #88 Whack-A-Mole

Lovely. Just what the US needed. An even more empowered White House Nazi.

Why does my memory turn to Operation Anthropoid?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:07:51pm

This shit is just going to ruin the new season of House of Cards.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:08:27pm

At least Hilter’s guys had snazzy uniforms, Trump’s crew looks like they went through the bargain bin at Burlington Coat Factory.

You would think that Donnie would but all his goons Trump gear and send the bill to the government?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:08:32pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Orly.

jaunte said “convincingly”.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:08:56pm

The Hill

“…The ruling deals with a portion of Trump’s order handed down Friday, which bars Syrian refugees indefinitely and halts the resettlement of all refugees for four months as the administration reviews the vetting process.

Admission will resume only after vetting has been deemed “adequate” by the secretary of State, the secretary of Homeland Security and Director of National Intelligence [oh, and some drunk from Breitbart].

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:09:40pm

re: #105 GlutenFreeJesus

jaunte said “convincingly”.

#63

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:10:04pm

re: #94 b.d.

We are kinda stuck until the wingnuts decide that they can install Pence without too much backlash…

I don’t think they’re going to try that until they get the worst parts of their agenda passed. Then they can kick Trump to the curb and pin all of the harm on him in time for the midterms.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:10:09pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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So the fellow charged with communications is being increasingly empowered while the guy who on paper is supposed to be the second-most powerful after the guy in charge is increasingly marginalized. Where have I seen this film before?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:10:54pm

re: #108 Whack-A-Mole

I don’t think they’re going to try that until they get the worst parts of their agenda passed. Then they can kick Trump to the curb and pin all of the harm on Trump in time for the midterms.

Not if the Dems don’t play.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:11:34pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

This shit is just going to ruin the new season of House of Cards.

“How can I take Frank Underwood seriously when you can get elected to the White House by being a complete idiot?”

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sauceruney  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:11:45pm

re: #104 b.d.

At least Hilter’s guys had snazzy uniforms, Trump’s crew looks like they went through the bargain bin at Burlington Coat Factory.

You would think that Donnie would but all his goons Trump gear and send the bill to the government?

Hey… I’ve found some great deals on the clearance rack there!

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:12:01pm

I get Wingnut Bingo.

Deadbart headline (way down the page, they aren’t giving any attention to the protests):

George Soros-Financed Groups Scheme to Stop Trump’s Temporary Refugee Halt Order

(I ain’t linkin’ Deadbart’s swill to Mr. Johnson’s home)

Damn, did George Soros find an asteroid made of gold? How the hell does he fund so many things like this and right wing sleuths figure that out, but not where the money is coming from? George Soros to wingnuts is like Emanuel Goldstein in 1984.

Right below that is another cute one:

Neighbors Put Up Nazi Flag to Protest Trump, Force Family Out of Their Home

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:12:39pm

re: #92 PhillyPretzel

And what if we do not have “social media?” We have to invent for them?

You’ll be tortured until you tell them you have it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:13:10pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

#63

I know. Took me a bit to catch up. Didn’t mean to rub it in. ;)

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:13:53pm

re: #104 b.d.

At least Hilter’s guys had snazzy uniforms, Trump’s crew looks like they went through the bargain bin at Burlington Coat Factory.

You would think that Donnie would but all his goons Trump gear and send the bill to the government?

That crap they wear looks like Trump gear.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:14:29pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

What are they going to do? Shove their knuckles up my nose like my kid sister does? I have been through quite a bit and besides I do not travel by plane.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:14:31pm

re: #112 sauceruney

Hey… I’ve found some great deals on the clearance rack there!

lol, no offense intended!

Rodney Dangerfield - Ugly Hat

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:14:33pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:15:48pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:16:11pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:16:26pm

re: #108 Whack-A-Mole

I don’t think they’re going to try that until they get the worst parts of their agenda passed. Then they can kick Trump to the curb and pin all of the harm on him in time for the midterms.

Assuming we don’t get incinerated by then, it will still be too late for the GOP. They already added sugar to the poisoned Flavor-Aid.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:17:18pm

Yes, the alt-right brain trust now running the country just “all lives matter”d the Holocaust!

But…they are still pro-Israel!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:17:53pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

Hearing that customs officials in tears because they can’t get guidance from White House, DHS not returning calls, etc and crowds growing.

Now they know how the commander of the Bastille felt.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:18:00pm

JJ MacNab ‏@jjmacnab 30m30 minutes ago

The only thing more thrilling than watching our gov’s check & balances kick in is seeing millions of citizens get invested in the process.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:18:05pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

Here comes the police state. Trump has found his Himmler.

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ozharas  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:18:08pm

Don’t expect any condemnation from our useless Australian Prime Minister - Trump has thrown Turnbull a political lifeline by taking our pesky offshore detained refugees off our hands.

theguardian.com

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:19:22pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

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I voiced the opinion yesterday that it feels as though Trump is trying to beat the clock and today seems to just reinforce that impression. As though he knows something monumentally damaging to his presidency is coming soon and he’s trying to rush through as much of his checklist as possible before it does.

Because the only other reality is that the man is so far out of touch with reality that he thinks he can just order something to happen and it will magically be so because he’s president.

Neither scenario is very encouraging.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:19:24pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

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Someone should remind them of the gate guards on 9 November 89 standing aside and letting the Berlin Wall become meaningless.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:21:09pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

Here comes the police state. Trump has found his Himmler.

But has he found his Heydrich?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:21:33pm

re: #129 William Lewis

Someone should remind them of the gate guards on 9 November 89 standing aside and letting the Berlin Wall become meaningless.

Any civil servant stupid enough to violate human rights on the strength of a telephone call is too stupid to find his/her locker.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:21:50pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:23:01pm
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:23:05pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

The flaw in Bannon’s plan: the American people wouldn’t cooperare.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:23:56pm

Anybody know if Baby Wiplash has sworn alligence to Trump now that his former boss will be heading up the secret police?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:24:05pm
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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:25:47pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

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If customs officials can’t get any official guidance shouldn’t they revert to the last official communications? Trying to implement policy based off what you hear from FoxNews and Twitter is not a path I would follow.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:26:00pm

Juliette Kayyem ‏@juliettekayyem

After all this, the extreme vetting will be no different than the rigorous status quo review. Except giving new life to ISIS.

Heckuva job, Trumpy

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:26:52pm

re: #122 Myron Falwell

Assuming we don’t get incinerated by then, it will still be too late for the GOP. They already added sugar to the poisoned Flavor-Aid.

Never underestimate the suggestibility of the average conservative voter. They were gullible enough to buy Trump’s obvious BS and put him in office, after all.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:29:32pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

I LOVE THE MEME MACHINE

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You need to check your Twitter account ASAP. I woke up earlier to find a spam DM from your Twitter account in my messages (screenshot below). I didn’t realize it was you because your Twitter handle is so different from your LGF nic, so I blocked & reported it for spam.

I see now that it was most likely unintentional. You should check to make sure your account hasn’t been compromised, and it would probably be wise to change your password. Let me know when you get things straightened out and I’ll unblock you.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:29:33pm

re: #135 Skip Intro

Anybody know if Baby Wiplash has sworn alligence to Trump now that his former boss will be heading up the secret police?

Baby Whiplash shouting from the audience during the scene when the Nazis storm the house during the Anne Frank play:

She’s in the attic!

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:29:40pm

re: #137 b.d.

If customs officials can’t get any official guidance shouldn’t they revert to the last official communications? Trying to implement policy based off what you hear from FoxNews and Twitter is not a path I would follow.

Yes, they should, just as the military does.

There is a caveat: if official guidance does not cover the situation at hand, the supervisor (commander in the military) is free to improvise to complete their mission.

Without guidance, passport control/immigration has never faced the situation of thousands being banned mid-route. Since they are still charged with border control, they must improvise if not given guidance. They really have no other choice.

The Federal court ruling now gives them guidance that the Aryan House did not.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:29:55pm

re: #130 William Lewis

But has he found his Heydrich?

That won’t be a problem. There won’t be any shortage of applicants for the, although currently sheriff David Clarke has the edge.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:31:16pm

re: #140 CuriousLurker

You need to check your Twitter account ASAP. I woke up earlier to find a spam DM from your Twitter account in my messages (screenshot below). I didn’t realize it was you because your Twitter handle is so different from your LGF nic, so I blocked & reported it for spam.

I see now that it was most likely unintentional. You should check to make sure your account hasn’t been compromised, and it would probably be wise to change your password. Let me know when you get things straightened out and I’ll unblock you.

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Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:32:03pm

re: #143 Skip Intro

That won’t be a problem. There won’t be any shortage of applicants for the, although currently sheriff David Clarke has the edge.

Clarke is viscous enough but not smart enough. That’s why Heydrich was so dangerous - brilliant and viciously evil.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:32:39pm

And then there’s this…

Gallup: Trump Net Approval Rating Drops 8 Points In First Week In Office

President Donald Trump’s net approval rating dropped by eight points in his first week in the Oval Office, according to daily polls tracked by Gallup.

On Sunday Jan. 22, two days after being sworn in, 45 percent of respondents said they disapproved of Trump’s job performance and 45 percent approved. By Friday Jan. 27, the percentage who disapproved rose to 50 and percentage who approved dipped to 42.

Other national surveys show similarly low approval ratings for the President. Forty-four percent of respondents to a Quinnipiac survey released Thursday said they disapproved of his handling of the presidency thus far, while only 36 percent approved.

He must be seething right now.

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:33:18pm

re: #144 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

Every account on social media is a potential target.

It is similar to E-mail scam: It costs virtually nothing to run a program to hack accounts. Once the account is hacked, the tweet is also negligible in cost.

If fifty tweets go out and one person bites, they make their money. Simple capitalism (for criminals).

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:34:18pm

In all of our despair, think of this: almost none of the people out at the protests today had to be there. Most of them, like a lot of us, are not immediately by the ban. But we all see the long term consequences.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:35:35pm

re: #146 makeitstop

The only poll that counts, the Breitbart-Hannity poll, has Trump’s approval at 125%, a record high for anyone, anywhere.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:35:38pm

re: #145 William Lewis

Clarke is viscous enough but not smart enough. That’s why Heydrich was so dangerous - brilliant and viciously evil.

Well, he is pretty dense…

///

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:36:12pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

I voiced the opinion yesterday that it feels as though Trump is trying to beat the clock and today seems to just reinforce that impression. As though he knows something monumentally damaging to his presidency is coming soon and he’s trying to rush through as much of his checklist as possible before it does.

I’ve always believed that - that Trump has been in a dead run to become president so he could stack the deck in order to avoid…something.

I still think it’s potential financial ruin. He’s probably in a lot worse shape than any of us have speculated.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:36:18pm

I go away for a few hours and come back to find Trump’s gutted the NSC.

Unfu…

Again, this is totally fucking believable.

Trump’s telegraphed that he’d gut every aspect of the US government. Handicapping national security and limit the number of adults in the room is a purposeful act to reduce the chances that Trump’s actions (and those in his immediate sphere) are questioned by those who actually know what they’re doing and the consequences of these actions.

Bannon’s role as Rasputin seems to be solidifying. I don’t think that’s a stretch anymore. He’s pushing the nation headlong into conflict, and he’s using diktat to make it happen and to solidify power in and around him.

The GOP will do nothing to stop them.

Democrats? Are you listening. Now is the time to act.

And all you 3d party yahoos who were warning that Clinton was worse than Trump and decided that your votes belonged elsewhere? Yeah, this is on you too. You too are culpable for this.

This is an abomination, and it’s going to get a lot worse. Because the Trump cabal will fight this and try to circumvent the justice system and the checks and balances - to say nothing of the Constitution - because they see no reason to follow the law or procedure. These are saboteurs and anarchists who are now running government into the ground with the assent of a GOP.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:37:55pm

re: #146 makeitstop

And then there’s this…

Gallup: Trump Net Approval Rating Drops 8 Points In First Week In Office

He must be seething right now.

FAKE NEWS!! Rasmussen has him 60% approval!!

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:38:07pm

re: #146 makeitstop

And then there’s this…

Gallup: Trump Net Approval Rating Drops 8 Points In First Week In Office

He must be seething right now.

His “ratings” are falling. Somebody will answer for this!

//

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:38:21pm

re: #150 TedStriker

Well, he is pretty dense…

///

Perhaps someone should mail him a pussy hat. After all those women were on the verge of bringing down civilisation with all that knitting and yarn.

You can mail it here. I presume since the address is posted on the county sheriff’s Website, it really doesn’t count as doxxing:

David A. Clarke Jr., Sheriff
821 West State Street, Room 107
Milwaukee, WI 53233
[no phone numbers allowed]

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:38:29pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Trump has more than enough time to get his disapproval ratings way up. Who in their right mind thought he would be a good President? His only loyalty is to himself.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:39:22pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

His “ratings” are falling. Somebody will answer for this!

//

Somebody in the WH is going to have to go topless—it’s sweeps week!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:39:36pm
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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:39:39pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

His “ratings” are falling. Somebody will answer for this!

//

Maybe he needs a different time slot? Or have some long lost, young, cute nephew move into the White House with him?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:40:09pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

re: #140 CuriousLurker

You need to check your Twitter account ASAP. I woke up earlier to find a spam DM from your Twitter account in my messages (screenshot below). I didn’t realize it was you because your Twitter handle is so different from your LGF nic, so I blocked & reported it for spam.

I see now that it was most likely unintentional. You should check to make sure your account hasn’t been compromised, and it would probably be wise to change your password. Let me know when you get things straightened out and I’ll unblock you.

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Yes, I got one of these spam DMs too. You need to change your password right away. And if you still have access you should set up two-factor signin.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:40:17pm

re: #151 makeitstop

I’ve always believed that - that Trump has been in a dead run to become president so he could stack the deck in order to avoid…something.

I still think it’s potential financial ruin. He’s probably in a lot worse shape than any of us have speculated.

I read somewhere yesterday that one of the things Trump has been hoping to do as president is to shut down the IRS audit against him.

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:40:53pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Somebody in the WH is going to have to go topless—it’s sweeps week!

Trump will water-ski jump over a pool of sharks during his SOTU address

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:43:14pm

re: #162 b.d.

Trump will water-ski jump over a pool of sharks during his SOTU address

Word is the White House’s nominee for the SCOTUS bench will be Ted McGinley.

//

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:43:55pm
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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:45:35pm

Very surprising, correct and nice headline

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KingKenrod  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:45:53pm

re: #144 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

Did you check your Twitter settings -> Apps to see if any apps are listed there with access that you don’t want them to have?

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:46:04pm

Reading about the the custom’s officials not knowing what to do and not getting any guidance from Washington, it’s made me thing about two things: what the custom’s agents need to do, and what the green card people will need.

With the stay, the customs agents could choose not to enforce, but it would be haphazard without orders from higher up. They still have a customs job to perform, and now they have a gaping hole in enforcement.

As for the green card people, if they are let go, they are going to need a safe place and lots of legal representation. Preferably some people who are as aggressive about going after the administration as they are about protecting the people. This is one of those times where the best defense is a good offense.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:46:25pm

John McQuaid
@johnmcquaid

Bannon breaching the traditional wall insulating the NSC from domestic politics

The President’s Chief Strategist (Steve Bannon) is invited to attend all NSC meetings and will be a regular member of the Principals Committee (on par with the Secretaries of State, Defense, Homeland Security, and Treasury). This is unusual; the NSC function usually does not include participants from the political side of the White House. In the Bush Administration, Karl Rove would not attend NSC meetings. According to former Chief of Staff Josh Bolten, President Bush did not want to appear, especially to the military, to insert domestic politics into national security decisionmaking.

lawfareblog.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:46:56pm
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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:47:09pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Word is the White House’s nominee for the SCOTUS bench will be Ted McGinley.

//

I look at the idiots that Trump didn’t nominate to his administration and realize that they are all on the short list for SCOTUS.

*shudder*

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:47:30pm

re: #144 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

Thanks. Unblocked, unmuted, angry tweet deleted, and explanation posted.

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Archangelus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:48:32pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:48:57pm

re: #140 CuriousLurker

Odd that because my ethernet line went kaput. My Wi-fi works beautifully but the ethernet will not work at all. This is the first problem I have had with FiOS.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:50:35pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Damn, Larry Tribe replied to you…that’s how you know you’re in good company.

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Archangelus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:50:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:51:23pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:52:19pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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b.d.  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:52:24pm

Nice to know that with all the world blowing up around him that POTUS Trump will still be lashing out at SNL soon.

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:52:41pm

re: #164 Interesting Times

Follow-up, to become even more accurate once SCOTUS pickkk Roberthomas Borkalito is installed -_-

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:54:54pm

re: #144 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

It probably wasn’t directed specifically at you. There are bots scanning Twitter constantly for insecure, easy-to-hack passwords. It would be a really good idea to set up two-factor login verification - you’d never have to worry about this again. See:

support.twitter.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:56:03pm

I’ve now set up two-factor authentication on every website I use that offers the option. And I’m thinking about implementing it at LGF.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:56:22pm
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:57:59pm

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

What if Bannon’s hoping one of them will try again?

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:58:47pm

re: #150 TedStriker

Well, he is pretty dense…

///

Dontcha love spell check?????

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:59:13pm

OT I just want to check to see if you can see what I am posting?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:59:20pm

re: #183 Belafon

What if Bannon’s hoping one of them will try again?

Those are countries where Trump owns property.

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Archangelus  Jan 28, 2017 • 7:59:41pm

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

And of course it’s just a coincidence that three of the four Arab countries NOT included in the ban are countries where President Electoral Smallhands McPutinsbitch has direct business ties…. ///

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:00:40pm
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:01:49pm

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Those are countries where Trump owns property.

I know, but that was probably the sell for Trump: You have business dealings with those countries, why would we want to hurt them?

Yes, it’s high conspiracy theory.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:02:29pm

re: #144 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. Done. Got an email from twitter and changed password. They Tweet was sent from my account so I can’t block anything. Why someone would want to hack an account with 50 users is beyond me.

My bet is you were on a long list of compromised accounts. Robot don’t care

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:02:53pm

re: #166 KingKenrod

Did you check your Twitter settings -> Apps to see if any apps are listed there with access that you don’t want them to have?

LGF is the only one

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:04:02pm

re: #185 PhillyPretzel

OT I just want to check to see if you can see what I am posting?

I see it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:05:37pm

re: #192 CuriousLurker

Good. And Thanks. For some reason there are also a few apps that do not work but they are not vital and I think I may reload them tomorrow.

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Kragar  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:05:50pm
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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:06:07pm

Trump claims that the order was enforced orderly? Seriously? What world is he living in? Because that’s not what happened at any international airport receiving flights carrying people subjected to the ban EO.

Trump’s cabal kept pushing misinformation and conflicting guidance, affecting those who had green cards and this is just the start.

This isn’t going away anytime soon.

Trump also keeps claiming this isn’t a ban on Muslims - even as the only ones affected by these actions are … wait for it… Muslims.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:06:12pm

HT Decatur Deb

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:07:03pm

re: #189 Belafon

I know, but that was probably the sell for Trump: You have business dealings with those countries, why would we want to hurt them?

Yes, it’s high conspiracy theory.

And those countries where Trump owns property? Yeah, they could retaliate; you know, expropriate his hotels, resorts, etc. He’d stand to lose a hell of a lot of dinero if that happened

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:09:54pm

Next thing you know the Alt-Right and Trump supporters will call the ACLU a terrorist organization. Oh wait…

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:11:58pm

re: #198 DodgerFan1988

Next thing you know the Alt-Right and Trump supporters will call the ACLU a terrorist organization. Oh wait…

They’re so used to that it’s probably written on their birthday cake.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:12:33pm

re: #194 Kragar

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At least they’re not waiting until the press briefing to get information.

Edit: Hopefully this means legislation blocking this will be coming out soon. I’ll let the Democrats get behind that, though Republicans will probably try to attach unfunding the ACA to it.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:13:02pm

I’ve lost count of how many executive orders Trump has signed so far. He’s on record pace. 17 in just over a week. This is govt by diktat.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:13:22pm

re: #192 CuriousLurker

I see it.

Whoa nice find CL

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:14:33pm

re: #139 Whack-A-Mole

Never underestimate the suggestibility of the average conservative voter. They were gullible enough to buy Trump’s obvious BS and put him in office, after all.

Those voters also drank of the Flavor-Aid pitcher. No sympathy for them when they get burned and humiliated like the plutocrats.

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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:15:28pm

re: #202 Unshaken Defiance

Whoa nice find CL

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Add third column: yes or no, does Trump have business interests?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:18:07pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:19:03pm

re: #195 lawhawk

Trump claims that the order was enforced orderly? Seriously? What world is he living in? Because that’s not what happened at any international airport receiving flights carrying people subjected to the ban EO.

Trump’s cabal kept pushing misinformation and conflicting guidance, affecting those who had green cards and this is just the start.

This isn’t going away anytime soon.

Trump also keeps claiming this isn’t a ban on Muslims - even as the only ones affected by these actions are … wait for it… Muslims.

Salon had an article the other day that Trump gets most of his news through the NYT and NYP, Morning Joke and F&F, and the Sunday Funnies. So it’s perfectly believable that Bannon and/or Prius are feeding him bullshit about how awesome the implementation of his EO is going. After all, this sort of chaos is just what Bannon was hoping for.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:21:04pm

15 of 19 9/11 terrorists were Saudis - unaffected by the ban
1 was from Egypt (Atta) - unaffected by the ban
2 were from UAE - unaffected by the ban
1 was from Lebanon - unaffected by the ban.

These 19 didn’t all come directly from the countries of birth.

Other countries unaffected by the ban: Afghanistan and Pakistan, both of which harbored al Qaeda leadership including OBL. Both continue to have active Islamic terror groups who have targeted US interests operating within their territory.

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garzooma  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:21:06pm

re: #187 Archangelus

And of course it’s just a coincidence that three of the four Arab countries NOT included in the ban are countries where President Electoral Smallhands McPutinsbitch has direct business ties…. ///

I’ve been trying to figure out how Lebanon avoided the list.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:21:46pm

re: #194 Kragar

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And the longer it goes on without the GOP speaking up, the more complicit they look. They have the power to step in and slap his hand, but those who aren’t looking to capitalize on this to pass their wish list of far-right delights are too scared of their base to speak up. It won’t be long before they start lying to themselves about how it looked so bad for them in 2016, but they Trump won so any talk about how they’re gonna pay for their actions is bunk.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:21:48pm

re: #205 Myron Falwell

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:22:16pm

Woah - this, from a guy who was once premier (Cdn equiv of governor) of Ontario and interim leader of the Liberal Party of Canada:

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:22:30pm

re: #207 lawhawk

And they were trained in Afghanistan by a Saudi - not affected by the ban.

And they captured that Saudi in Pakistan many years later - not affected by the ban.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:22:38pm

My middle son is watching Pleasantville again. He loves the movie. He just got through the scene where the tree bust in flames. Such awesome symbolism.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:22:54pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

Salon had an article the other day that Trump gets most of his news through the NYT and NYP, Morning Joke and F&F, and the Sunday Funnies. So it’s perfectly believable that Bannon and/or Prius are feeding him bullshit about how awesome the implementation of his EO is going. After all, this sort of chaos is just what Bannon was hoping for.

Don’t forget Rush ‘n Lumpy and Alex Jones.

And then he turns on SNL in a few minutes as Alec Baldwin arrives to annihilate Trump on live TV.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:24:02pm

Seriously, I don’t understand why people aren’t paying more attention to what people like Chuck Johnson are doing. Maybe they think he’s just a clown, I don’t know. But he’s connected to the Trump administration, and I don’t think he’s lying or exaggerating about advising them on appointees.

We should be hanging guys like this around Trump’s neck and making him deny or confirm that he’s working with them.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:25:14pm

So fucking shameful.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:25:21pm

re: #211 Interesting Times

Woah - this, from a guy who was once premier (Cdn equiv of governor) of Ontario and interim leader of the Liberal Party of Canada:

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As was noted the other day, one of the groups that Hitler purposefully ignored, marginalized, and outright overrode were the generals because many of them had come from the aristocracy who he blamed for Germany’s defeat in WWI. It’s no surprise that, when it became obvious Germany was in for a war of attrition they could no win, a number of those same generals felt their duty was to Germany rather than Hitler and plotted his death.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:26:28pm

It’s perfectly normal for the wife of a former vice president eight days removed from the position to tweet this.

EDIT: Aw fuck it’s a parody account.

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prairiefire  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:26:40pm

re: #91 jaunte

Get ready for Bannon and his goons to “review your social media.”

Review my fucking media!!??

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:26:40pm

Countries where Trump has business interests:

In addition to Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, President Trump holds extensive business interests in the Muslim majority nations of Indonesia and Azerbaijan. Both have documented ties to Islamic terrorism — yet neither is included on the executive order’s blacklist.

Countries where more research needs to be done to figure if there’s any interests: Pakistan. Afghanistan.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:26:55pm

re: #216 teleskiguy

So fucking shameful.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:27:17pm

re: #218 Myron Falwell

It’s perfectly normal for the wife of a former vice president eight days removed from the position to tweet this.

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That a parody account.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:27:34pm

re: #218 Myron Falwell

That’s not her account, no check mark.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:29:01pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:30:17pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

re: #223 Belafon

Excuse me a minute.

G-D it. I edited the post.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:32:39pm

Man in the High Castle is looking more relevant all the time.

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:32:54pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

Trump has more than enough time to get his disapproval ratings way up. Who in their right mind thought he would be a good President? His only loyalty is to himself.

(rant on)

Well, apparently every one in my village except eight voters for Clinton, three for Johnson, and two for Stein. His surrogate came to campaign in this remote place. No other candidate bothered with us.

I wouldn’t recommend using my village as a statistical sample for the nation (which why no polling organisations ever call here). Clinton won by three million votes.

The only reason we lost is because the Democrats competed for votes, and the Republicans competed for electoral votes. The Republican strategy of a fifty-state scheme worked.

Funny how that used to be our scheme, until the party abandoned the Great Plains. So sorry for us; all those Plains states electoral votes add up. Too bad they were ceded without a fight.

I have had this argument before here and been shouted down. The complaints amount to either a) we don’t need the bigot vote or b) pick yourself up by your own bootstraps or c) we need to target the right states/districts/cities because money/can’t compete anyway/don’t want to put forth the effort/name your excuse.

You have a lifelong Democrat here telling you there is a reason Sanders won this state (and I supported him before I went to Clinton). That reason is he (or his surrogates) campaigned for every vote. Clinton campaigned once in Omaha and we never saw her or her surrogates again. Funny why she lost this state and so many independent voters decided the Democrats didn’t care about our five electoral votes.

I am not saying we should have run Sanders. Clinton won. We should have run an election for all fifty states, for the hundreds of millions of people Democrats have deemed are too much trouble, too isolated, too whatever to bother with.

We had a Trump surrogate stumping in Scottsbluff (population 14,000). The GOP may have heartless policies, but they care enough to talk to the damn voters.

While the Dems make fun of the GOP reps “running” from town halls, at least they show up. A voter will always take the illusion of “I want you to believe I care about you” over “I never heard of your candidate because you don’t care about us enough

And the Dems even managed to lose NE2, which was a district Obama won and we had a Dem house member. (NE2 is Omaha. Nice job.)

The electoral college math is inescapable: There are not enough electoral votes in the liberal-concentrated states to win an election. The Democrats must compete in all states (the “we don’t have enough money” argument or the “we need to compete where we are competitive” arguments are why we are losing.

Does the Democratic Party want to represent the whole country or just part of it.

Say whatever else ill you will about the GOP: They want to win all the states. So they won. (See my entire blank ballot I turned in except for President. Like the lotto, you can’t win if you don’t play. I don’t care how many people here will argue against me like they have in the past, that is the math. Math is supposed to have a liberal bias.)

Start counting ceded votes and tell me how many of these millions of people you don’t want to represent: AK, ID, MT, ND, SD, WY, NE, KS, OK, TX, WI, MI, KY, TN, AL, MS, LA, AR, FL, GA, SC, NC, NH, ME.

Ceding those states without a fight means the Democrats are not a national party, and I don’t care how much you try to convince yourself otherwise.

Don’t look away. Don’t move the goalpost with “it costs too much” or “it’s too hard.” The GOP competes in every state and every seat they can, even seemingly hopeless seats cause you never know. You might pull out a victory in a low-turnout election.

That is why the Dems have lost so many elections even though the they won the popular vote. Since the Electoral College will be repealed next Sunday after never, either we compete for electoral votes (the only ones that matter) ore we continue to fade.

I have put it here before: Who’ll run for school board here? City Council? Cemetery or Library Board? All I ever get: I’m too busy. I don’t think I’d do well. I think phone banking for an hour and a half is just as good as being on my town board.

In other words, you are not willing to do whatever it takes to stop the American Fascist Party because (insert reason here). I swear, Democrats are special snowflakes at least when it comes to excuses to get out of public duty. I’ve seen better excuses used to avoid jury duty.

Don’t move the goalpost. “I can’t, I don’t have time, I yadayadayada” everything but coming up with a damn candidate or running yourself. If you can’t come up with time, then you really don’t care about your town/county/state.

I don’t get paid a penny for my seat. I do it because I care about my town.

I won a seat in my city council in what Nate Silver rates as the reddest state in the nation, with no party help. The GOP ran ads for village trustee candidate on the radio and newspapers for a town of 124 people. I knocked on doors. I was reëlected beating a gun shop owner in an open-carry state.

We now have two liberals on our board.

Do not whigne to me about why we lost the election. We lost because millions and millions of people just like me had a ballot with only one Democratic ticket on it, Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.

I’ll bet if you live in a blue state nearly every seat is competitive, with a D and an R and maybe a Lib.

We can’t get state party help in red states. The Dems don’t care if I lose my seat in 2018. Democratic state parties do not coordinate with county parties. The national party doesn’t care if Great Plains states drop off the map.

Refer again to all those state abbreviations up there. That is why we lost. Not Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania. We lost because the party does not care about the middle: It does not compete nor run candidates.

Don’t move the goalposts and claim “we don’t want to pander to bigots or racists.” That is a red herring. Millions of people in the Great Plains are not racists or bigots.

The Democratic Party does not want to do the work. That is why we lost.

We don’t want you to run our state and county parties. We want a leg up, so in the future maybe we can give you a leg up.

If instead the Party’s response is “we don’t need you and we won’t help you,” then I refer you to that list of people the Democratic Party officially Doesn’t Give a Diddly Damn to Represent.

The Democratic Socialists in ninety thousand square miles of Nebraska Panhandle are better organised than the Democratic Party; they want me to come and speak since I managed to get elected and reëlected here by myself with no help from anyone, competing against GOP paid adverts on radio and in newspapers.

I am tired of the navel-gazing here with endless litigation as to why we lost. We lost because we did not carry a message of hope and progress with the most qualified candidate of the age. We lost because we competed for votes, not electoral votes.

Trump or his surrogates appeared in every state multiple times. Clinton and her surrogates: Well, they managed a few swingy districts.

I am not blaming this on Hillary Clinton. I am blaming this on an ossified party that is more resistant to change than the GOP.

I have been fobbed off here with statements that amount to “what do you want, a participation trophy?” No damn it, I want a party that competes. It doesn’t have to support me in particular (though I am literally the only elected official from the Dems in one third of an entire state).

The Dems don’t care. That is the message in the middle of the country. If the Dems cared, they would run candidates. They would come talk to us.

The GOP sent a representative to speak at our village Memorial Day service last year in a town of 124.

Rant off. Be a fifty state party, or be no party. If I get no support in 2018 I will not file for reëlection. Why bother? NE seats don’t matter.

#EverySeatMatters (at least to the GOP)

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:40:38pm

*sigh* Is it time for the nightly airing of grievances already?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:41:22pm
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:41:46pm

re: #227 Anymouse

I feel for you. My county is 25% Clinton, 75% Trump. And it will take a hard crash for that to change, because it’s one of the wealthiest counties in the state of Texas.

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Anymouse  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:42:00pm

re: #139 Whack-A-Mole

Never underestimate the suggestibility of the average conservative voter. They were gullible enough to buy Trump’s obvious BS and put him in office, after all.

Downdinged for disparaging voters.

Gee, when the only candidate in your area that bothers to send surrogates or campaigns himself/herself, why bother voting for the one who ignores you>

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:42:21pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

*sigh* Is it time for the nightly airing of grievances already?

When’s the Feats of Strength?!? I want in on it this time!

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MsJ  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:45:02pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:45:36pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

When’s the Feats of Strength?!? I want in on it this time!

Never underestimate the strength of someone high on the snow.

I’m looking at you, Heinrich Bannon.

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mmmirele  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:45:48pm

One of my immigration lawyer friends says that Customs and Border Patrol are refusing to obey orders from two federal judges. One of them is Virginia federal judge Leonie Brinkema. Based on past experience, Judge Brinkema is not going to be happy with the disobedience, if it keeps up.

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becominginvisible  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:45:50pm

Curious article about Peter Thiel in NZHearld. Link They are a bit put out that he has had citizen ship since 2011 without meeting the criteria. Probably has already been covered here but I couldn’t link on twitter.
“He told the New York Times this month that he viewed Trump as an agent of creative destruction who could stimulate reform by shaking up the status quo”

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:47:09pm

re: #199 Belafon
Black Lives Matters? “A terrorist organization!”
National Council of La Raza? “A terrorist organization!”
Council on American Islamic Relations? “A terrorist organization!”
The Klu Klux Klan? “They have the same 1st Amendment rights as any other Americans! If you don’t respect their Constitutional rights then you’re Un-American!”

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:48:36pm

Tawfiq Karimi ‏@tawfiqkarimi now19 seconds ago

The #visasban fits perfect in #Bannon playbook. Create confusion and chaos to undermine outrage about #NSC #NationalSecurityCouncil

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:51:58pm

The tweet where I saw this no longer shows up for some reason, so here it is for posterity:

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:53:15pm

Two big avalanches outside of Telluride, CO, set off by bombs thrown from a helicopter.

Ajax

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:53:34pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:53:54pm

SPORTS REPORTERS doing the job the alphabet networks forgot to do.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:54:24pm

He ain’t gonna last long at his current gig with an attitude like this.

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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:55:55pm

re: #240 teleskiguy

Two big avalanches outside of Telluride, CO, set off by bombs thrown from a helicopter.

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Video

Holy Mackerel!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:55:55pm

re: #238 jaunte

re: #239 Interesting Times

re: #242 Myron Falwell

Bannon is Trump’s Martin Bormann.

Bormann used his position to create an extensive bureaucracy and involve himself as much as possible in the decision making. He gained acceptance into Hitler’s inner circle, and accompanied him everywhere, providing briefings and summaries of events and requests. He began acting as Hitler’s personal secretary in 1935, a post to which he was officially appointed in 1943. After Hess’ solo flight to Britain on 10 May 1941 to seek peace negotiations with the British government, Bormann assumed Hess’ former duties, with the title of Head of the Parteikanzlei (Party Chancellery). He had final approval over civil service appointments, reviewed and approved legislation, and by 1943 had de facto control over all domestic matters. Bormann was one of the leading proponents of the ongoing persecution of the Christian churches and favoured harsh treatment of Jews and Slavs in the areas conquered by Germany during World War II.

en.wikipedia.org

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:56:20pm

re: #227 Anymouse

I thought of you while talking to a client yesterday.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 8:59:39pm

re: #241 bratwurst

It won’t matter to Spencer, but to others hopefully.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:00:13pm

re: #237 DodgerFan1988

Black Lives Matters? “A terrorist organization!”
National Council of La Raza? “A terrorist organization!”
Council on American Islamic Relations? “A terrorist organization!”
The Klu Klux Klan? “They have the same 1st Amendment rights as any other Americans! If you don’t respect their Constitutional rights then you’re Un-American!”

Welcome, Hatchling. Where’s the beer?

(I know you’ve been here a few days, first time I’ve seen you post.)

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:00:25pm

Short of having Trump removed, how do we counter Bannon?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:01:36pm

re: #249 Belafon

Short of having Trump removed, how do we counter Bannon?

And that’s the hard part. Bannon is a purely political appointee and not subject to review by the Senate.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:02:36pm

re: #241 bratwurst

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:02:44pm

re: #249 Belafon

Short of having Trump removed, how do we counter Bannon?

I don’t think we can outside of the utterly unthinkable.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:03:34pm

re: #239 Interesting Times

The tweet where I saw this no longer shows up for some reason, so here it is for posterity:

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Is it just me or do they always photograph him with what looks like a pen, but his signature always looks like it was done with a Sharpie.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:03:53pm

I have a strong preference for #14
I recall he really hates that image…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:04:23pm

re: #240 teleskiguy

I. Want. That. Job.

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scottslemmons  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:04:52pm

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

And that’s the hard part. Bannon is a purely political appointee and not subject to review by the Senate.

It can’t hurt to keep mentioning as often as possible that a neo-Nazi fanatic who’s spoken of his desire to demolish society so he can build the Fourth Reich in its ashes is the guy who tells Trump what to do. Eventually, maybe the press will start to talk about how fucked up that is…

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:05:49pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:06:05pm

Beauty Break anyone?

Saturday Night Bird On Beach

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:07:09pm

Been seeing a whole hell of a lot of “where was your outrage when Obama banned Iraqis in 2011?”

So I searched for “did Obama ban Iraqi refugees” and the first hit was SMOTI.

And every other source was your typical right wing bullshit site.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:07:38pm

re: #256 scottslemmons

It can’t hurt to keep mentioning as often as possible that a neo-Nazi fanatic who’s spoken of his desire to demolish society so he can build the Fourth Reich in its ashes is the guy who tells Trump what to do. Eventually, maybe the press will start to talk about how fucked up that is…

That would imply that the plutocrats who own the media feel that it is necessary.

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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:07:51pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

I have a strong preference for #14
I recall he really hates that image…

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I want that new one, where the rotor wash from the presidential chopper makes it clear that he has about 5 hairs on his head.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:08:10pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

I have a strong preference for #14
I recall he really hates that image…

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Okay but they are never ever going to get anyone to lick that. Not even the back. Um esp. not the backside.
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:08:25pm

re: #256 scottslemmons

It can’t hurt to keep mentioning as often as possible that a neo-Nazi fanatic who’s spoken of his desire to demolish society so he can build the Fourth Reich in its ashes is the guy who tells Trump what to do. Eventually, maybe the press will start to talk about how fucked up that is…

Paradoxically, Bannon has described himself as a “Leninist”.

I’m a Leninist. Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.

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Poligeek  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:08:29pm

Umm, from what I’m reading, CBP is refusing to comply with the Court Order re: seeing current detainees.

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Moebym  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:10:13pm

re: #227 Anymouse

Hard to argue with that. So many of the problems that plagued us and ultimately led to our defeat in 2016 - voter suppression, gerrymandering, draconian anti-abortion and anti-LGBT laws, etc. - came about as a result of Dems not running candidates at every level of government. A tree can’t stand if it’s too top-heavy and has a weak trunk.

That said, though, this election was abnormal in many senses. Interference from within and without can’t be discounted.

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prairiefire  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:10:28pm

I want one of the new presidential Cadillacs. That looks like a sweet ride.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:14:00pm

re: #264 Poligeek

Umm, from what I’m reading, CBP is refusing to comply with the Court Order re: seeing current detainees.

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Yep, appears legit. Twitter’s all over it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:14:23pm

re: #264 Poligeek

Umm, from what I’m reading, CBP is refusing to comply with the Court Order re: seeing current detainees.

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IIRC, the US Marshals Service is responsible for enforcing federal court orders; someone needs to get them on the horn pronto. If CBP refuses to comply, have the US Marshals place them under arrest for contempt of court.

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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:14:32pm

re: #264 Poligeek

Umm, from what I’m reading, CBP is refusing to comply with the Court Order re: seeing current detainees.

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ARGH! I don’t know what to do! I feel so powerless, and I want to hit someone!

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:14:32pm

Maybe it’s the tequila, but I thought this was funny (and I needed a laugh)

Today:

Trump spoke with Putin from behind his desk in the Oval Office, which was stacked with papers and a glass of Diet Coke.

Before today:

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SpaceJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:15:01pm

Toot toot wingers! All aboard the get fucked express!

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:15:41pm

re: #249 Belafon

Short of having Trump removed, how do we counter Bannon?

Moving the protests to the offices of Congresspeople everywhere, and hounding them as much as possible. Not just the GOPers - encourage Dems who stand up, as well:

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:18:19pm

re: #264 Poligeek

Umm, from what I’m reading, CBP is refusing to comply with the Court Order re: seeing current detainees.

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Refresh my memory, folks, didn’t we hear constantly during the last 8 years that federal employees couldn’t decide which orders/regs/laws they’d enforce and or how they would enforce them?

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:19:24pm

re: #235 mmmirele

One of my immigration lawyer friends says that Customs and Border Patrol are refusing to obey orders from two federal judges. One of them is Virginia federal judge Leonie Brinkema. Based on past experience, Judge Brinkema is not going to be happy with the disobedience, if it keeps up.

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I see that the WH has moved to the Jacksonian “[the judges have] made [their] decision, now let [them] enforce it” phase.

Fuuuuuuu…

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SpaceJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:19:43pm

Will Trump allow them all to stay if they agree to pee on him?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:19:54pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:20:53pm

re: #276 FormerDirtDart

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This country has gone completely off the fucking rails and it’s only been a week. This administration is not going to last 4 years in office.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:20:55pm
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electrotek  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:21:32pm

Guys, please watch and share the video a good friend of mine has produced while in Sydney.

Facebook Post

Thanks!

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prairiefire  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:22:33pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

Just imagine what Brannon and Flynn can cook up.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:23:41pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

If The GOP security hawks don’t howl, they are worthless.”

Fixed for accuracy.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:23:43pm

re: #280 prairiefire

Just imagine what Brannon and Flynn can cook up.

Oh, I figure a war or two, to justify the draconian measures that are surely being written up as we type.

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electrotek  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:23:52pm

re: #259 GlutenFreeJesus

Been seeing a whole hell of a lot of “where was your outrage when Obama banned Iraqis in 2011?”

So I searched for “did Obama ban Iraqi refugees” and the first hit was SMOTI.

And every other source was your typical right wing bullshit site.

And the right wing bullshit sites have a date from November 19th 2015.

They are referring to this

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:26:46pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

Oh, I figure a war or two, to justify the draconian measures that are surely being written up as we type.

…and that a vast majority of people will openly revolt against. You think the protests today were big, multiply it exponentially and with increased fury against the Trump Regime.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:26:46pm

re: #277 Targetpractice

This country has gone completely off the fucking rails and it’s only been a week. This administration is not going to last 4 years in office.

All depends if the GOP is willing to uphold their oaths of office to uphold and defend the Constitution.

If not, then the Constitution is a scrap of paper, devoid of meaning.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:28:14pm

re: #276 FormerDirtDart

Another report from lawyer with major firm that CPB at Dulles refusing to comply w court order—seeking contempt and marshals.

Good.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:28:22pm

General Dunford’s term as CJCS ends Sep. 30th.

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prairiefire  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:29:33pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

I’m very concerned about the response of being tested. China will help to contain North Korea? No? I don’t think so.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:30:49pm

re: #288 prairiefire

I’m very concerned about the response of being tested. China will help to contain North Korea? No? I don’t think so.

When that test comes - and it will - Trump’s gonna fold like one of his cheap-ass suits.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:30:50pm

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

All depends if the GOP is willing to uphold their oaths of office to uphold and defend the Constitution.

If not, then the Constitution is a scrap of paper, devoid of meaning.

The GOP is the equivalent of the People’s Temple. Everyone down to the average GOP voter has begun to freely drink the poisoned Flavor-Aid.

This will end ugly for all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:31:15pm

re: #270 BeachDem

Maybe it’s the tequila, but I thought this was funny (and I needed a laugh)

Today:

Trump spoke with Putin from behind his desk in the Oval Office, which was stacked with papers and a glass of Diet Coke.

Before today:

[Embedded content]

Meme that pic with this tweet! It’s petty shit like this that really pisses Trump off.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:33:18pm

Sen. Cory Booker

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:33:30pm

re: #291 GlutenFreeJesus

Meme that pic with this tweet! It’s petty shit like this that really pisses Trump off.

“The diet coke wasn’t even mine. Dishonest media lies!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:33:40pm

re: #290 Myron Falwell

The GOP is the equivalent of the People’s Temple. Everyone down to the average GOP voter has begun to freely drink the poisoned Flavor-Aid.

This will end ugly for all.

Yep, just like I observed yesterday - when Rev. Jones Trump tells them to chug the Flavor-Aid, they’ll gladly do it.

The GOP is in a suicide pact with Trump; the only problem is they’re gonna end up taking a whole lotta innocent people down with them.

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scottslemmons  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:36:21pm

re: #290 Myron Falwell

The GOP is the equivalent of the People’s Temple. Everyone down to the average GOP voter has begun to freely drink the poisoned Flavor-Aid.

This will end ugly for all.

It may be that Obama’s greatest failure will be his refusal to address the nation and demand that no one drink bleach, set themselves on fire, or throw themselves into woodchippers.

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Interesting Times  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:37:57pm

re: #284 Myron Falwell

…and that a vast majority of people will openly revolt against. You think the protests today were big, multiply it exponentially and with increased fury against the Trump Regime.

I’ve posted this before, and I’ll post it again. They saw how 9/11 boosted Dubya’s popularity and forced a “rally around the flag” rush into the Iraq War, so they’ll seek out a similar event to serve as pretext for going full fascist:

Operation Northwoods, counter-intuitively, actually disproves 9/11 trutherism for one simple reason: if it were a false flag, Iraq would have been framed from the get-go. But since trump and co. pal around with truthers and are prone to projection/DARVO, well…

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SpaceJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:40:22pm
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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:41:13pm

re: #297 SpaceJesus

So THAT’s why we have such a mess!

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SpaceJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:41:59pm

Hahaha

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:42:16pm

re: #283 electrotek

And the right wing bullshit sites have a date from November 19th 2015.

They are referring to this

So SMOTI etc. are equating more visa checks as a total ban like Trump’s. Go figure.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 28, 2017 • 9:47:51pm

re: #296 Interesting Times

By the same token, they are incredibly unpopular and widely hated. Any stunt like this would result in a police state for all, oppressed by all.

The last time that happened? 1775, under King George III. I have a strong feeling that it could happen again if Trump and Bannon are totally reckless with that like they were with the Muslim Ban.

Again, going back to the GOP suicide pact theory.

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2017 • 10:00:41pm

re: #293 Pawn of the Oppressor

“The diet coke wasn’t even mine. Dishonest media lies!”

Well, the pic from today is a glass of liquid that the WaPo SAYS is Diet Coke, but this pic makes it certain

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2017 • 10:06:09pm

re: #297 SpaceJesus

[Embedded content]

Rudy Giuliani says on Fox that Trump called him and said, “I want to do a #MuslimBan. How do I do it legally?”

Calling Rudy was your first mistake, yam. Rudy doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

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Fineday  Jan 28, 2017 • 11:07:24pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

One of the front-pagers at Balloon Juice just had a great name for Trump.

Dolt 45.

I also like Adolf Twitler.


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