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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:23:14pm
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Moebym  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:25:05pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

And only one who voted against each one: Kirsten Gillibrand.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:26:34pm

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:27:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:29:48pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:32:37pm

According to a lawmaker present at the meeting, who asked not to be named, King Abdullah said that Israeli officials are concerned that moving the embassy would “enflame tensions among radical groups.” Jordan’s Information Minister Mohammed Momani, has also called the move a “red line” for Jordan that would “inflame the Islamic and Arab streets” and serve as a “gift to extremists.”

“This has been a hypothetical for a long time and we prefer it stay that way,” said one Israeli intelligence officer, who spoke with BuzzFeed News earlier this month. “Moving the US Embassy is something which gains us little and which could, potentially, inflame tensions.”

The intelligence officer said that if the Trump made a big show out of moving the US Embassy it would almost certainly “end in unnecessary violence.”

Certainly a plus for both Bannon and Putin.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:33:16pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Tim fucking Kaine?????

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:34:07pm

re: #7 Amory Blaine

I know. I regret supporting him now.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:34:48pm

Here we are.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:37:04pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:39:26pm

“…On August 18, 1939, the Reich Ministry of the Interior circulated a decree compelling all physicians, nurses, and midwives to report newborn infants and children under the age of three who showed signs of severe mental or physical disability. At first only infants and toddlers were incorporated in the effort, but eventually juveniles up to 17 years of age were also killed. Conservative estimates suggest that at least 5,000 physically and mentally disabled children were murdered through starvation or lethal overdose of medication.
ushmm.org

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:42:41pm

Don’t miss it if you can.

*spit*

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:42:54pm

Had a nice sobering talk with my dad, and his recounting of what it was like under Marcos, notably how he and his colleagues were only barely able to get out just a little after he declared martial law under student visas. Even he’s shocked how fast things are moving, even if he’s approaching a sort of resigned zen at this point. Living in the ass end of West Virginia surrounded by Trump supporters (even at the hospital where he works) might not help there.

God, help me.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:49:48pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

I’d rather pluck nose hairs for a full hour.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 7:52:17pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:00:12pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:00:35pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:04:20pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:05:05pm

What the fuck! That’s some residency!

PHISH - THE BAKER’S DOZEN: 13 NIGHTS AT THE GARDEN

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freetoken  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:06:55pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

If I were gracious, I’d presume that some of them have cut backroom deals with certain Republicans for this or that issue/bill to come later.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:07:07pm

Gorsuch’s hatred of the disabled adds to my righteous indignation against the Trump Regime. Fuck him and fuck anyone who thinks such a horrible position merits placement on the high court.

And fuck everyone in the GOP for spawning this piece of shit.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:09:43pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:16:59pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

Don’t miss it if you can.

*spit*

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Bernie, waving his hands like a raving lunatic: I DID NOT VOTE FOR IRAQ!

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Moebym  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:20:18pm

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie, waving his hands like a raving lunatic: I DID NOT VOTE FOR IRAQ!

But ya voted to keep funding it, so shut yer yap.

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BigPapa  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:27:00pm

Johnston has this habit of making it seem like every note, pull off, bend, scratch, etc is the absolute perfect choice. Claptonesque, if you will. But with lots of more nuanced technique. But despite all the technique, still music first.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:28:09pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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What the fucking hell!!!

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:29:54pm

“…the unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

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Interesting Times  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:30:55pm

re: #27 jaunte

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“…the unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

trump regime: “Challenge accepted!”

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:32:12pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Well, I guess we know now why Trump thinks he’s got the 9 notes to get Gorsuch past a filibuster.

FFS, Warner AND Kaine? FML.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:35:31pm
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SteveMcG RN  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:36:10pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:36:21pm

re: #27 jaunte

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“…the unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

So this bastard was snorting pharma grade Henry Kissinger dust in the late 80’s???

Are you fucking serious? Henry fucking Kissinger in 1988 at Columbia? What, James Watt, Caspar Weinberger and Ed Meese just not giving the same old wingnut high any more and he had to get out some vintage fucking Nixon era criminality to get his fix??

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:37:25pm

WTF. I was watching Daily Show where Noah was interviewing the head of the ACLU who was talking about the events of Saturday when the screen suddenly went black and silent. It wasn’t the cable since the Comedy Central logo was showing in the corner. Stayed dead until it went to commercial and after went to “moment of zen”. Now I know I’m paranoid AF cuz I’m not thinking “technical difficulties”. WTF.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:41:23pm
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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:42:10pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I guess that means that DiFi is apparently not running for reelection. Can’t really say I’m sad to see her go, she probably should have retired a while ago.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:44:45pm

I’m tired tonight.

Got in a “debate” with a Breitbart-quoting dude on Facebook. Managed to lure him down the primrose path into proving he’s a bigot.

Guy goes off about entire regions of the world being nothing but Muslims that hate America. I explained I lived next door to a refugee family from Iraq and Syria and they’re amazing.

“Yeah, wait until those fucking Muslims kill you in your sleep.”

“Well, thing is, they’re Assyrian Christians. Oops.”

Then linked to the Webster’s definition of a bigot.

He chose to reduce himself to calling me a libtard at that point, to which I replied, “Yay! You’re reduced to libtard! I win!”

I thought this would all make me feel really good because this guy got ripped up on this and other topics he tried to deflect with. But the fact is it wasn’t a fair fight. I was trying to prove how much smarter and glib I am and score points on him. Yeah, I got out a lot of pent-up aggression but it was like playing a game with a 5 year old and celebrating my 50 point win.

I don’t know. Didn’t feel good to shame this guy in public. Didn’t like myself for it. Didn’t make anyone watching it feel anything but pity for the guy…or they piled on and turned on him too.

It’s time for me to put politics away for a few days and take up knitting.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:44:46pm

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:47:47pm

Trying to calm down right now.

I saw this earlier and I really want it.

teespring.com

I’m hitting the sack for now.

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ipsos  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:51:03pm

re: #33 allegro

WTF. I was watching Daily Show where Noah was interviewing the head of the ACLU who was talking about the events of Saturday when the screen suddenly went black and silent. It wasn’t the cable since the Comedy Central logo was showing in the corner. Stayed dead until it went to commercial and after went to “moment of zen”. Now I know I’m paranoid AF cuz I’m not thinking “technical difficulties”. WTF.

Saw that, too…and had exactly the same thought.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:54:21pm

re: #39 ipsos

Saw that, too…and had exactly the same thought.

Thank you. I intensely dislike questioning my sanity.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:54:30pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

It is brutal. Surviving these days.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2017 • 8:59:09pm

I searched twitter for posts about my area. Found a young woman who protests. Note, I live in a commuter colony of suburbia, not much of a dem stronghold.

Followed her, she followed back. I asked about protests, she gave me links via facebook of like 5 upcoming. Most in LA. But there’s one in Encinitas 2/11 for PP on the 101. I will definitey drive down for that.

Reach out to strangers on twitter.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:00:03pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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It’s funny, but I remember Kissinger’s name being very big during the Dem primaries. Can’t remember why though….

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:00:34pm

For my evening diversion I watched the last of The Hollow Crown, Richard III. Man, that was a bad plan. Incredible production and Benedict Cumberbatch was… I have no words he was so phenomenal. Too good. Fucking insane and terrifying. I felt like I was watching the events of our current oval office. Immediately after, that weirdness on the Daily Show.

Now I see that list of Dems voting to approve the nominations. Literally sick-making. I will not sleep well tonight.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:02:06pm

re: #44 allegro

Benedict had experience playing Smaug and Sauron.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:02:20pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:03:33pm

They’re not acting.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:05:55pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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I saw this earlier & cringed at how true it is

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:06:14pm

re: #45 retired cynic

Benedict had experience playing Smaug and Sauron.

Nothing to compare to this performance. Chilling doesn’t begin to describe it. I was quite familiar with the play already and expected great things from him but dayum, I couldn’t even breath through much of it.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:07:11pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:07:55pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

Trump is doing every single thing conservatives dreamed of doing for years but never had the balls to actually do.

Hey! Maybe that’s why 62 million people voted for this fucking monster.

I can tell you from my Facebook feed that Trump voters are loving everything he does. Mostly because it “pisses off libtards.”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:08:02pm

I’m out.

This is HARD.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:08:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:08:44pm
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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:08:54pm

re: #49 allegro

Nothing to compare to this performance. Chilling doesn’t begin to describe it. I was quite familiar with the play already and expected great things from him but dayum, I couldn’t even breath through much of it.

I have it all on order. Hope I can bring myself to watch. Got the Peter Sellers’ “Being There” for myself for Christmas, and then can’t watch.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:11:39pm

Hey, some good news showed up in my universe.

I attended their last show at Red Rocks eight years ago. This will be a triumphant return! Especially with Gener sobered up.

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TedStriker  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:11:40pm
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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:13:45pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Hey! Maybe that’s why 62 million people voted for this fucking monster.

I can tell you from my Facebook feed that Trump voters are loving everything he does. Mostly because it “pisses off libtards.”

Government by spite, given form.

And it’s incredibly depressing how many of these are on the younger side of the scale. Like I’ve griped before, it feels like millenials, at least white millenials, are close to becoming an unreachable group. Either they’ve gone all in on the Trump bandwagon, or riding purity ponies to the ‘Fuck Hillary’ parade. And the sheer amount of violent racism xenophobia, and eliminationism I see from folks my age or younger just seems to swallow everything up to hopelessness.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:15:07pm

The best thing going for us fucks is the stirring we’re seeing, right?

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:16:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:17:55pm

Lubbock Police Disperse ‘No Ban’ ‘No Wall’ Protest Near Texas Tech [VIDEO]

Tuesday night, around 8pm, Lubbock Police had to disperse a protest at the Tim Cole Memorial near 19th Street and University Avenue which spilled out on to nearby streets. The protest was held across the street from the southern boundary of the Texas Tech campus.
One estimate provided to KFYO News, just after 6pm, had about 300 people participating in the protest against President Donald Trump’s recent executive order on immigration.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:17:59pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Hey! Maybe that’s why 62 million people voted for this fucking monster.

I can tell you from my Facebook feed that Trump voters are loving everything he does. Mostly because it “pisses off libtards.”

This exactly. No concern for what any of this shit actually means. Just that it’s pissing off anyone that didn’t vote for him.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:20:20pm

re: #55 retired cynic

I have it all on order. Hope I can bring myself to watch. Got the Peter Sellers’ “Being There” for myself for Christmas, and then can’t watch.

I have watched the entire series now since Saturday and I cannot recommend it too highly. You will love it, all of it. The productions are superb and the performances of all are nothing short of brilliant. My response to this one is testament to how freaking amazing it is. I mean Shakespeare, set in the 14th and 15th centuries and it still resonates with this kind of power.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:21:39pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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Following unwritten rules is no longer a rule until further notice.

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Moebym  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:22:00pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Everything is a competition to these people: Cons vs. Libs. GOP vs. Dems. Christians vs. everyone else. Haves vs. have-nots.

And all that matters to them is “their” team winning.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:25:30pm

re: #65 Moebym

Everything is a competition to these people: Cons vs. Libs. GOP vs. Dems. Christians vs. everyone else. Haves vs. have-nots.

And all that matters to them is “their” team winning.

But only the team owners will profit. The players, fuck ‘em.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:25:46pm

On the last thread, people were talking about Blumenthal coming out in favor of Gorsuch, saying he’d done it on CNN (and calling Blumenthal a quisling.)

Unless I’m missing something, that tweet was all wrong—

From the CNN article, Blumenthal said,”I have deep, serious concerns about Judge Gorsuch. “An extreme ideologue on the court will threaten privacy rights including women’s health care, worker and consumer protections, and public health and safety.”

His full statement:

“I have deep, serious concerns about Judge Gorsuch,” Blumenthal said in a statement released minutes after Trump made his Supreme Court announcement Thursday night. “Whatever his credentials are on paper, most important to me are the real-life impacts of his judicial opinions and views. An extreme ideologue on the court will threaten privacy rights, including women’s health care, worker and consumer protections, and public health and safety.”

Blumenthal said he “had reached no conclusion” on Gorsuch, but would support a hearing and a vote on the candidacy - a dig at Republicans who refused to consider Judge Merrick Garland, former Presidnet Obama’s pick for that vacancy, created by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia.

However, Blumenthal said, “if I conclude that Judge Gorsuch is out of the mainstream, then I will pursue every legal tool available to block his nomination.”

ctmirror.org

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:28:26pm

re: #65 Moebym

Everything is a competition to these people: Cons vs. Libs. GOP vs. Dems. Christians vs. everyone else. Haves vs. have-nots.

And all that matters to them is “their” team winning.

THE SPORTS TEAM FROM MY AREA IS *SUPERIOR* TO THE SPORTS TEAM FROM YOUR AREA

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Interesting Times  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:32:09pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:33:08pm

re: #55 retired cynic

I have it all on order. Hope I can bring myself to watch. Got the Peter Sellers’ “Being There” for myself for Christmas, and then can’t watch.

The Monday before the election, I dipped into the $5 DVD bin at Walmart. One of the movies I got was “An American President”. I was going to watch it Wednesday.

I’m crying. :’(

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:34:00pm

re: #70 Sherlock Hound

The Monday before the election, I dipped into the $5 DVD bin. One of the movies I got was “An American President”. I was going to watch it Wednesday.

I’m crying. :’(

I hear you….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:34:47pm

re: #65 Moebym

Everything is a competition to these people: Cons vs. Libs. GOP vs. Dems. Christians vs. everyone else. Haves vs. have-nots.

And all that matters to them is “their” team winning.

I said the day after the election to one of my “FUCK THOSE LIBTARDS!!!!” “friends” (we are no longer friends)…

“Honey, Trump didn’t win. America lost.”

Never got a reply to that.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:37:44pm

I’m getting to that low ebb again after all this. I’m really wondering if there’s a way through this when half the goddamn country wants to burn it all down just so they can punch a ‘libtard’ or a brown person in the face forever.

And the feeling that trying to fight back somehow just makes people hate us all the more keeps creeping its way up my spine.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:42:29pm

re: #73 Citizen K

Well, the guy came today to spray my house for Rid-All. He enjoys visiting, so I wanted to know how I felt about the election. (Perhaps he could tell, because I had NPR on.) I replied cautiously that I wasn’t a DT fan, and he said, “me, neither.” Then we jawed for about half an hour (don’t tell Rid-All!). This is a red area, and I was a bit surprised. He said he had a number of friends who had initially been for DT, but had started backing away after he won the nomination. And more who are backing away now. So remember the protests, and keep the faith! And remember to resist!

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:43:00pm

One more reason to oppose the yam’s SC pick:

The title of the 2009 book written by Neil Gorsuch, President Donald Trump’s pick to fill the conservative shoes of Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, pretty much says it all. It’s called, The Future of Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia. Not “death with dignity,” mind you, but “assisted suicide,” which is how Gorsuch sees it ― and he’s clearly not a supporter.

huffingtonpost.com;

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:47:58pm

I voted for him last November. He won. And he seems to be listening to constituents.

All is not lost.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:54:30pm
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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:56:23pm

re: #77 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Another punchable face!

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2017 • 9:59:54pm

re: #77 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Only a blind man could nazi that coming. Heil Shitler.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:00:47pm

re: #73 Citizen K

I’m getting to that low ebb again after all this. I’m really wondering if there’s a way through this when half the goddamn country wants to burn it all down just so they can punch a ‘libtard’ or a brown person in the face forever.

And the feeling that trying to fight back somehow just makes people hate us all the more keeps creeping its way up my spine.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:03:17pm

re: #80 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Truth.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:10:18pm

I am not as upset as many here on some of the nominations that the Democrats approved; it is most of the remaining ones, who really pose a threat to this country, who must be blocked. Hopefully, Schumer and the Democrats will work together to prevent the worst appointments from actually taking office.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:12:13pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not as upset as many here on some of the nominations that the Democrats approved; it is most of the remaining ones, who really pose a threat to this country, who must be blocked. Hopefully, Schumer and the Democrats will work together to prevent the worst appointments from actually taking office.

They still can’t stop one, even if they hang together, without some defections on the R side.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:16:33pm

re: #83 retired cynic

They still can’t stop one, even if they hang together, without some defections on the R side.

They can stop the Supreme Court nominee. I am hoping that there may be a couple Republicans who care about other issues (the environment, education, labor etc) who can be persuaded to do what is right.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:18:20pm

re: #84 Hecuba’s daughter

They can stop the Supreme Court nominee. I am hoping that there may be a couple Republicans who care about other issues (the environment, education, labor etc) who can be persuaded to do what is right.

Yep, and I don’t care if they sit on the Supreme Court nominee for four years.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:20:37pm

re: #84 Hecuba’s daughter

They can stop the Supreme Court nominee. I am hoping that there may be a couple Republicans who care about other issues (the environment, education, labor etc) who can be persuaded to do what is right.

Democrats can’t stop the supreme court nominee. What they can (and should) do is oblige McConnell to end the filibuster if he wants to get this nomination through.

No preemptive surrender.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:23:02pm

re: #83 retired cynic

They still can’t stop one, even if they hang together, without some defections on the R side.

That’s true. However the symbolism of resistance and holding together, showing some fucking resolve for once, is EVERYTHING. Goddammit, Americans in the many, many thousands are standing up, protesting on the streets and in airports throughout the country, in red states and blue, pleading for some leadership - our elected leadership who vowed to stand for us and our Constitution, to protect us from foes foreign and DOMESTIC. Even if they lose, they owe us that resolve to stand and fight with us or forever pay the price we exact.

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electrotek  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:23:59pm

What is it with ex-Muslim Arabs who think they are being “independent” by cowtowing to white supremacists?

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:24:29pm

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re: #83 retired cynic

They still can’t stop one, even if they hang together, without some defections on the R side.

Well, here in south by dog carolina, our state dem chair put a call out for letters to our esteemed republican senators. He’s going to hand-deliver them with a live facebook event. I didn’t waste my time writing to Tim Scott because he is a worthless do-nothing asshole, but here’s my letter to Lindsey Graham.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:28:01pm

re: #89 BeachDem

kb+ZImf082fhmsRP3vHjzcxtAaclFYwb

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:29:50pm

re: #90 allegro

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:30:30pm
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Moebym  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:32:06pm

re: #88 electrotek

“I got mine, fuck you.”

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Cheechako  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:33:11pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Well, I saw on the internet that trump hotels have bedbugs.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:33:23pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seethe!!!

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:34:11pm

re: #94 Cheechako

Well, I saw on the internet that trump hotels have bedbugs.

And pee stains in the mattresses.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:34:37pm

re: #94 Cheechako

Well, I saw on the internet that trump hotels have bedbugs.

It’s on the Internet, must be true.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:34:43pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:34:48pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Christ on a crudite, if there was ever a symbol of the end of our republic, this is it. Sold.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:36:49pm

re: #77 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’d love to hear about this “extreme vetting” Donald and Company are putting together…

Oh, what the fuck. We all know they aren’t doing shit about it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:36:57pm

re: #86 EPR-radar

Democrats can’t stop the supreme court nominee. What they can (and should) do is oblige McConnell to end the filibuster if he wants to get this nomination through.

No preemptive surrender.

Edited the note — I didn’t read your response carefully. They should filibuster everything from here on out

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:38:53pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OFFS.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:39:32pm

re: #89 BeachDem

My senators are Durbin and Duckworth, so I am lucky there. My rep has never expressed a thought separate from the party, so your letter won’t work for him. I’ve sent him some sharp emails, and gotten nothing but press releases back. I think I’m going to write up something and take it to his local office, and let them hear me. Will make an effort to be nice and midwestern and polite!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:40:19pm

re: #98 BeachDem

I like the bird.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:40:27pm

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

I do believe they are rubbing our noses in it.

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electrotek  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:41:14pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:42:29pm

re: #103 retired cynic

They are my Senators too! Who is your Rep? We finally got Schneider back.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:43:09pm

re: #106 electrotek

Her profile: Gone.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:43:28pm

re: #107 GlutenFreeJesus

LaHood. The father was decent. The son, less so.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:43:56pm
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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:44:29pm

re: #103 retired cynic

My senators are Durbin and Duckworth, so I am lucky there. My rep has never expressed a thought separate from the party, so your letter won’t work for him. I’ve sent him some sharp emails, and gotten nothing but press releases back. I think I’m going to write up something and take it to his local office, and let them hear me. Will make an effort to be nice and midwestern and polite!

My rep, Al Green, is a good guy. He will always fight the good fight. My Senators are Cornyn and Cruz. Wasted time there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:45:05pm

re: #109 retired cynic

Well damn. That kinda sucks. Keep at him and let make your voice be heard!

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electrotek  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:46:22pm

re: #108 GlutenFreeJesus

Her profile: Gone.

So is her LinkedIn

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:46:42pm

re: #110 Kragar

WTF!!!

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:47:13pm

re: #103 retired cynic

My senators are Durbin and Duckworth, so I am lucky there. My rep has never expressed a thought separate from the party, so your letter won’t work for him. I’ve sent him some sharp emails, and gotten nothing but press releases back. I think I’m going to write up something and take it to his local office, and let them hear me. Will make an effort to be nice and midwestern and polite!

My rep is a worthless back bencher who is thrilled with the yam’s SC pick and regulation rollbacks. He said not one word about the ban. Interesting will be the effect it has on tourism—I imagine that Canadians are going to be hesitant to spend their money here in Amurikkka right now (the big Canadian-America festivities take place in March), and he represents a tourist area that gets about a million Canadian visitors a year—plus lots of Europeans.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:47:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:49:50pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not as upset as many here on some of the nominations that the Democrats approved; it is most of the remaining ones, who really pose a threat to this country, who must be blocked. Hopefully, Schumer and the Democrats will work together to prevent the worst appointments from actually taking office.

I’m of two minds. Part wants to stand in front of everything, every nomination, every Executive Order, every bill. But the other part realizes that there are differences between the things that would happen with ANY Republican President, and those that would ONLY happen with Trump.

It’s important to realize that as obstructionist as McConnell et al. were, they didn’t literally try to stop everything.Clinton, for example, came out of committe with a 16:1 recommendation, and was confirmed with a 94:2 vote. So, do we spend our effort trying to stop EVERY SINGLE NOMINATION? Even the ones that, for example, Jeb Bush would nominate? If we do that, how do we differentiate the TRULY egregious ones, like DeVos?

I HATE that that orange pigfucker and his puppetmasters get to make any decisions AT ALL, but if we try to stop EVERYTHING, we’ll get worn out with failing and the people who are not stuck on Trump will rightly say we’re just opposing EVERYTHING.

So what do we do?

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:50:25pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:51:59pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

We oppose anything and everything TRUMP. Now and forever.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:53:26pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

Dammit stop be reasonable! *grumble*

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:55:12pm

re: #118 BeachDem

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:58:02pm

I’m freaking out. I’ve got rum and ciggie butts (yeah, after 6+ years of quitting) and my nails are gnawed. I’ve also got YouTube but if I turn that on it will be dawn before I crash and my day will be lost.

Klys, help!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 10:59:41pm

re: #122 allegro

I’m freaking out. I’ve got rum and ciggie butts (yeah, after 6+ years of quitting) and my nails are gnawed. I’ve also got YouTube but if I turn that on it will be dawn before I crash and my day will be lost.

Klys, help!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:00:11pm

re: #122 allegro

Here you go!

Kruzah chook video

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:00:56pm

I just yelled at my sister to go to bed because she is on EST and works tomorrow but got to reading and is going to be very unhappy in the morning.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:01:06pm
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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:03:19pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m for loudly opposing the most horrendous, like DeVos and Sessions. The only way we can stop them is by flipping some Republicans, which is why I concentrated on those in my letter to Graham—occasionally, he has actually done the right thing (not often, but occasionally.) I tried to be polite and appeal to his “better angels.” Probably won’t be worth a damn, but…

I think on some of the others, our peeps should definitely voice their objections in no uncertain terms and get as much face time to voice them as possible. But I’m not ready to primary or tag as quislings people who voted for Elaine Chao or Nikki Haley (as much as I hate that woman and think she’s stupid and unqualified. In fact, believe that her stint at the UN will be a total dead end, and I’d rather have her there than running for VP or President later on.)

Now, any Dem who votes for DeVos will have my burning wrath with the heat of a thousand suns.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:05:19pm

re: #127 BeachDem

I would lay down on the highway to stop a car carrying a senator who was going to vote for DeVos, and consider it a good trade!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:06:42pm

re: #107 GlutenFreeJesus

They are my Senators too! Who is your Rep? We finally got Schneider back.

My district too!! Worked for Dan Seals and then Schneider campaign, all 3 times he ran. Was actually shocked but pleased when he won again this time

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:06:55pm

re: #128 retired cynic

I wouldn’t lay your life down to the cause quite yet. Fuckface Von Clownstick has yet to declare war on China.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:07:24pm

re: #121 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:07:31pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

I wouldn’t lay your life down to the cause quite yet. Fuckface Von Clownstick has yet to declare war on China.

To stop DeVos, I would! Sessions, too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:09:23pm

I’m virulently opposed to both Sessions and DeVos. But Sessions is much the more dangerous. The man sees the law and the Constitution as some kind of plaything to get what he wants, and AG is a very dangerous place for someone with so little respect for the law.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:09:57pm

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

My district too!! Worked for Dan Seals and then Schneider campaign, all 3 times he ran. Was actually shocked but pleased when he won again this time

Yes it was a pleasant surprise!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:10:27pm

re: #131 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:10:59pm

re: #128 retired cynic

I would lay down on the highway to stop a car carrying a senator who was going to vote for DeVos, and consider it a good trade!

I’ll join you—they’ll have a harder time if they have to run over two bodies.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:11:57pm

re: #123 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Ooooo, yarn! I have a major backlog of projects. Also a couple of operas aaaaand I will have adorable, funny as hell little Dexter as a house guest for a few days starting tomorrow.

re: #124 GlutenFreeJesus

Here you go!

That is hilarious! LMAO

Thanks mucho!

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:11:59pm

re: #136 BeachDem

I’ll join you—they’ll have a harder time if they have to run over two bodies.

Thank you, ma’am!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:13:35pm

re: #127 BeachDem

I think on some of the others, our peeps should definitely voice their objections in no uncertain terms and get as much face time to voice them as possible. But I’m not ready to primary or tag as quislings people who voted for Elaine Chao or Nikki Haley (as much as I hate that woman and think she’s stupid and unqualified. In fact, believe that her stint at the UN will be a total dead end, and I’d rather have her there than running for VP or President later on.)

Now, any Dem who votes for DeVos will have my burning wrath with the heat of a thousand suns.

I agree with you; even Rick Perry doesn’t really upset me. Incompetence is tolerable but those like DeVos whose mission is to destroy the agency they represent must be stopped by any means possible.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:14:25pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m virulently opposed to both Sessions and DeVos. But Sessions is much the more dangerous. The man sees the law and the Constitution as some kind of plaything to get what he wants, and AG is a very dangerous place for someone with so little respect for the law.

And DeVos sees education as a way to put money in private pockets and indoctrinate kids into dominionist bullshit. It’s hard for me to choose which is more horrible—they are both heinous.

I guess Sessions would have more widespread opportunities to fuck things up—particularly voting rights, women’s rights, LGBT rights, civil rights—OK—I’ve just convinced myself Sessions is worse. But I truly hate and fear both of them.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:14:29pm

re: #136 BeachDem

I’ll join you—they’ll have a harder time if they have to run over two bodies.

I’ll add a third lump.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:15:29pm
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electrotek  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:16:30pm

re: #108 GlutenFreeJesus

Her profile: Gone.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:19:28pm

re: #132 retired cynic

To stop DeVos, I would! Sessions, too.

I admire your meddle! I really do!

Fact is, we haven’t seen the worst of President Donald Trump. Not by a long shot.

Every Friday I will retweet this Twitter account. To keep track of time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:21:47pm

re: #137 allegro

Ooooo, yarn! I have a major backlog of projects. Also a couple of operas aaaaand I will have adorable, funny as hell little Dexter as a house guest for a few days starting tomorrow.

That is hilarious! LMAO

Thanks mucho!

I am so tempted to start to learn some of the really pretty lace shawl stuff which is hysterical because I can’t even knit (or is it purl).

Also I need more crafting hobbies like I need a hole in the head.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:22:30pm

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:26:13pm

re: #146 BeachDem

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:30:10pm

re: #146 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:34:31pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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allegro  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:34:46pm

re: #140 BeachDem

And DeVos sees education as a way to put money in private pockets and indoctrinate kids into dominionist bullshit. It’s hard for me to choose which is more horrible—they are both heinous.

I guess Sessions would have more widespread opportunities to fuck things up—particularly voting rights, women’s rights, LGBT rights, civil rights—OK—I’ve just convinced myself Sessions is worse. But I truly hate and fear both of them.

One is doom for today (Sessions) the other is doom for a generation (DeVos). I started teaching biology at [major TX state university] in 1984 and for the next 24 years saw a shocking demise in the educational preparedness of my students. (Thanks, Ronnie!) It’s one of the biggest reasons I retired early - I was spending most of my efforts doing remedial tutoring, trying to bring too many up to freaking high school level. The whole increasing creationist thing got beyond my capacity for tolerance. And that’s without DeVos and now Franklin Graham, holy crap.

Our populace is now frighteningly ignorant and it has resulted in Trump. To see our kids dumbed down and indoctrinated even more fates us to a new dark ages.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:35:31pm

re: #142 Kragar

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Prediction: When LA’s bid fails, Trump will launch into a twittercane about how the city being a “sanctuary city” scared off the IOC because all them “illegals” are creating such a hostile environment that no country feels safe sending its athletes there.

And when the IOC or someone close to the negotiations corrects the record that Trump’s isolationist/bigoted policies are what killed the bid, he’ll flip to screaming about how corrupt they are, how they’re “anti-American,” and how the Olympics are just one more example of other countries trying to exercise control over America. The irony of his saying such a thing as Putin will no doubt be speaking in “solidarity” with him will be totally lost on the press.

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electrotek  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:37:00pm

Fox News forced to apologize for spreading fake news about the suspect being Moroccan

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wheat-dogg  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:38:12pm

Ban ensnares a traveler from Malaysia.
m.themalaymailonline.com

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:38:31pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Prediction: When LA’s bid fails, Trump will launch into a twittercane about how the city being a “sanctuary city” scared off the IOC because all them “illegals” are creating such a hostile environment that no country feels safe sending its athletes there.

And when the IOC or someone close to the negotiations corrects the record that Trump’s isolationist/bigoted policies are what killed the bid, he’ll flip to screaming about how corrupt they are, how they’re “anti-American,” and how the Olympics are just one more example of other countries trying to exercise control over America. The irony of his saying such a thing as Putin will no doubt be speaking in “solidarity” with him will be totally lost on the press.

Or…he’ll send Mitt to salvage the bid for Olympics, then cut him off at the knees to further humiliate Mittens.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:41:41pm

re: #152 electrotek

Fox News forced to apologize for spreading fake news about the suspect being Moroccan

Thanks to Justin Trudeau’s office—where did you see that they apologized?

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:43:53pm

HuffPo not holding back on their headers:

HEIST OF THE CENTURY

‘A Stolen Seat… Court Packing’… ‘This Has Never Happened Before In The History Of The United States, Never’… ‘A Constitutionally Damaging Power Grab… Illegitimate’… ‘Flat Out Theft’… Schumer Hints At Filibuster… GORSUCH: Scalia 2.0?… ‘Another Scalia’… A History Of Siding With The Police…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2017 • 11:46:00pm

re: #155 BeachDem

Thanks to Justin Trudeau’s office—where did you see that they apologized?

That’s pretty much the best you’ll ever get out of FOX

Within hours, Fox News apologised for the error. “foxnews.com initially corrected the misreported information with a tweet and an update to the story on Monday. The earlier tweets have now been deleted,” Refet Kaplan, the managing director at foxnews.com, said in a statement. “We regret the error.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2017 • 12:16:27am

re: #152 electrotek

Fox News forced to apologize for spreading fake news about the suspect being Moroccan

Damage already fucking done.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 1, 2017 • 12:23:35am

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

Damage already fucking done.

Likely their intention

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 12:27:56am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Likely their intention

I only quibble with the word ‘likely’.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 12:51:30am

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m virulently opposed to both Sessions and DeVos. But Sessions is much the more dangerous. The man sees the law and the Constitution as some kind of plaything to get what he wants, and AG is a very dangerous place for someone with so little respect for the law.

I’m of the opinion that DeVos is more dangerous. The point in her nomination is to destroy the education of children.

If Sessions is nominated, it would be horrible for civil rights but could eventually be fixed.

If the education system is destroyed, then children can be turned into apparatchiks or propagandised into Dominionists’ Christian beliefs with tax money.

It is not lost on me that no Christian denomination, even the quisling “liberal” ones, have condemned DeVos or stood up for secular public education free of religious influence.

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Alyosha  Feb 1, 2017 • 1:06:24am

It’s been the devil’s own day…

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 1:28:56am

re: #162 Alyosha

Forget the Sweet Meteor of Death: Perhaps it’s time for the near-Earth supernova (Goes to list of candidate stars approaching supernova status)

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 1:40:14am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:10:16am

re: #164 Timothy Watson

The link to Channel 2 in Detroit in that tweet only goes to the front page of their Website. It does not go to the article claimed.

A quick search with term “woman dies denied entry” only turns up two articles about that: One of the Times of Islamabad, and one from a site called Rediff, both citing Channel 2 FOX Detroit.

timesofislamabad.com
usrediff.com

The Times of Islamabad has much more information, but both draw on the FOX 2 story which does not show.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:16:55am

re: #164 Timothy Watson

re: #165 Anymouse

Reported so Charles can delete it hopefully. The station apparently pulled the story, so probably of questionable truthiness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:17:49am

re: #166 Timothy Watson

Reported so Charles can delete it hopefully. The station apparently pulled the story, so probably of questionable truthiness.

already saw it on Facebook, so now it is Real Fake News

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:20:13am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

already saw it on Facebook, so now it is Real Fake News

And I used the post of a Republican member of the Virginia House of Delegates who shared it on Facebook, so I assumed it had been vetted.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:26:50am

re: #168 Timothy Watson

And I used the post of a Republican member of the Virginia House of Delegates who shared it on Facebook, so I assumed it had been vetted.

At this point, I assume nothing a Republican says is true unless I can get independent verification of the statement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:41:37am

re: #169 Anymouse

At this point, I assume nothing a Republican anybody says is true unless I can get independent verification of the statement.

We have reached that point.

Which is why I no longer post anything political or even comment on such posts on FB. If I want a political rant, I come here or go to other political blog sites.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:50:45am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have reached that point.

Which is why I no longer post anything political or even comment on such posts on FB. If I want a political rant, I come here or go to other political blog sites.

I reached that point when Nixon was headed for impeachment, when I was fourteen or so. I have never had a reason to change my opinion.

I’m not on Facebook so I don’t have that problem. I save my political discussions for here, Wonkette, and Daily Kos, along with the local Listserv I am on that has turned into a hotbed of political resistance (unfortunately four hundred miles away in Omaha, but that’s local for me).

I have not written anything to the regional paper since the election, since I am not sure that would be safe any more. I have only written my monthly articles for the county paper on flag etiquette each month (I sent my February article with the oddball history of Presidents Day a couple days ago - I could post that here as it is interesting for amateur history buffs.)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:52:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 2:59:43am

re: #171 Anymouse

I’m not on Facebook so I don’t have that problem. I save my political discussions for here, Wonkette, and Daily Kos, along with the local Listserv I am on that has turned into a hotbed of political resistance (unfortunately four hundred miles away in Omaha, but that’s local for me).

I joined FB because I found it was a good way to advertise gigs or arrange sessions. And to use the chat function to keep in touch with far-flung family and friends.

But I really do not want to see anything there besides what folks are up to, cute pet & kiddie pics & vids, silly jokes & memes and upcoming social & cultural events.

Most anything else gets deleted and persistent political posters get blocked.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:01:37am

Google still trolling the government with doodles:

Today’s Google doodle is Edmonia Lewis, the first African-American to achieve international fame in the arts (in her case, sculpting). She lived in the XIX Century, born in New York.

The link goes to Wikipedia with an article about her life.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:08:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:08:30am

re: #174 Anymouse

Google still trolling the government with doodles:

Today’s Google doodle is Edmonia Lewis, the first African-American to achieve international fame in the arts (in her case, sculpting). She lived in the XIX Century, born in New York.

The link goes to Wikipedia with an article about her life.

Conservatives like to “piss off a liberal” by belittling, mocking and insulting people, sometimes entire groups, races or religions.

Google trolls conservatives by celebrating people’s triumphs over oppression and adversity…

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:17:01am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Conservatives like to “piss off a liberal” by belittling, mocking and insulting people, sometimes entire groups, races or religions.

Google trolls conservatives by celebrating people’s triumphs over oppression and adversity…

Well, until President Bannon gets his wish and deports all Asians from American tech firms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:22:38am

re: #177 Anymouse

Well, until President Bannon gets his wish and deports all Asians from American tech firms.

I suspect he will take a leaf from Stalin and propose special detention camps where they can continue to work in their field but as prisoners.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:22:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:23:45am

re: #179 Anymouse

Reminder: Trump pushed conspiracy that Justice Scalia was suffocated in his sleep with a pillow. (I’m serious.)

He was suffocated because he was about to go public with his personal involvement in pizzagate.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:25:42am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was suffocated because he was about to go public with his personal involvement in pizzagate.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

LOL. Not just Pizzagate, but I read on the Internet somewhere (maybe this comment) that he was personally involved in hiring the guys that ran Hillary Clinton’s private E-mail server.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:32:11am

… computer fouling up … try again …

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:35:10am

What do you want to bet this guy voted for Trump?

Driving on Humboldt Bay’s North Jetty is Not Advised

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:36:05am
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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:45:28am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:48:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:51:02am

re: #184 Anymouse

BREAKING NEWS: Trump Fires Statue of Liberty

She was an Obama appointee…

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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:56:35am

Part of me almost believes she’s making this up:

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 3:58:13am
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:01:47am

Bannon must have great security. I can’t believe the Clintons haven’t taken him out yet. //

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:04:24am

re: #188 lockjawcanbefun

Part of me almost believes she’s making this up:

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Nope.

A most mysterious term, this appears in the middle of the nineteenth century, apparently originally an English dialect term for which no antecedents are known. The English Dialect Dictionary of the end of the century has quocken, to vomit or choke, and quocker, a man who goes harvesting at some distance from home, neither of which is any help at all in explaining a word that means a wooden puppet on a string.

It is recorded best in John Camden Hotten’s A Dictionary of Modern Slang, Cant, and Vulgar Words of 1859:

The term quockerwodger, although referring to a wooden toy figure which jerks its limbs about when pulled by a string, has been supplemented with a political meaning. A pseudo-politician, one whose strings of action are pulled by somebody else, is now often termed a quockerwodger.

Older readers may remember the toy. It was a wooden puppet whose legs and arms were connected only loosely to its body. It was suspended by a single string connected to the head. By jerking the string you could make the puppet flail about in amusing and ridiculous ways. You can see how the political meaning could easily have grown out of that.

Though it is widely recorded in dictionaries of slang in the latter part of the nineteenth century, with Farmer and Henley even describing it as common in Slang and Its Analogues in 1892, and it continues to be included in works on historical slang to the present day, it has rarely appeared in print. The only example I’ve been able to find is in a book of satires edited by William Nation published in 1880: “The shameless arts of the sycophant are not monopolised by Mr. Quocker-wodger and his congeners.”

worldwidewords.org

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:08:46am
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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:08:52am

Maybe if all the airlines just stopped flying to the US…only for 90 days…it would send a message.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:11:39am

re: #193 darthstar

Maybe if all the airlines just stopped flying to the US…only for 90 days…it would send a message.

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They wouldn’t care, especially Trump.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:13:25am

I want to get one of these, put not many places where I can wear it:

Facebook Post

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:14:36am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

I want to get one of these, put not many places where I can wear it:

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I’d like something like that, but I’m not sure it would register with many people here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:15:09am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

I want to get one of these, but not many places where I can wear it:

Why not? “Alternative fact” is a very flexible term: it simply means “any fact that does not support my point of view”.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:16:32am

Oh brother.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:17:38am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not? “Alternative fact” is a very flexible term: it simply means “any fact that does not support my point of view”.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:18:41am

re: #199 Anymouse

Oh brother.

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Somebody probably had to explain to him why he couldn’t just appoint himself to the Supreme Court and be a justice and President at the same time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:19:39am

re: #200 Timothy Watson

I am glad that the left is reclaiming the term “alt” or “alternative”…

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:25:09am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am glad that the left is reclaiming the term “alt” or “alternative”…

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:26:40am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:29:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:31:21am

re: #204 Anymouse

Alarming Escalation As Russian-Backed fighters Launch New Offensive In Ukraine; Civilian & Military Casualties Mount

The version of events as portrayed over at moonofalabama is that this offensive is being launched by Ukrainian NAZIS to derail US-Russian rapproachement.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:33:32am

re: #203 Anymouse

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This is perhaps the worst Trump ‘reveal’. He’s not genocidal, he’s geo-cidal.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:38:56am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

This is perhaps the worst Trump ‘reveal’. He’s not genocidal, he’s geo-cidal.

That would be Bannon. Trump is mostly interested in making money. Can’t do that with a destroyed world economy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:46:11am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:47:24am

re: #208 Anymouse

That would be Bannon. Trump is mostly interested in making money. Can’t do that with a destroyed world economy.

Without Hitler, Himmler is remembered as a devout family man and passionate regional fencing enthusiast.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:48:05am

re: #209 Shiplord Kirel

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OH that’s rich!

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:50:05am

re: #209 Shiplord Kirel

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Sherman could have used some A-10s, those would have really put the rebels in their place.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:52:07am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 4:55:02am

He’s punch drunk

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:00:19am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Out of curiosity, how is the Jewish-American community reacting to the Trump administration?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:03:00am

re: #209 Shiplord Kirel

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OTOH, this is out-of-its time plane is real. It’s the Cygnet, a tetrahedonal airframe built by Alexander Graham Bell. For a short while it held the heavier-than-air distance record, flown by a young man named Selfridge. Yes, that Selfridge, the first US Army pilot and first US Army aviation fatality.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:03:27am

Former US Senator Bob Kerrey (D-Nebr.) takes Mr. Trump to task over his travel ban and ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

starherald.com

WASHINGTON — If President Donald Trump wants a new pen pal, former Sen. Bob Kerrey, D-Neb., is up to the task.

Kerrey recently sent a letter to the new president taking issue with both his travel ban and his relationship with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

“You seem to measure greatness by gross domestic product, the size of our military, or doing deals,” Kerrey wrote to Trump. “You could not be more wrong. Dangerously wrong in my strongly held view.”

The letter was posted on the website of votevets.org, which bills itself as “the largest progressive organization of veterans in America.”

Kerrey wrote that America’s greatness had little to do with economic clout or military strength when Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were in charge.

(More at the Scottsbluff Star-Herald link avove.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:07:42am

re: #215 Timothy Watson

Out of curiosity, how is the Jewish-American community reacting to the Trump administration?

There are some Trumporrhoids among us who were all HURR HURR IVANKA & JARED ARE THE MORDECAI & ESTHER OF OUR TIME!!!! then there was some bitter disappointment when they went driving around in a limo on the Sabbath to various Inauguration festivities, and also that Jared has been shoved under the bus by Haman (Bannon).

Jared & Ivanka remind me of another fun Bible couple: Ahab & Jezebel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:11:22am

TEH GLOBAL RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM SKYPE MEETING Y’ALL

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:11:25am

re: #204 Anymouse

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The Ukrainians fucked up—they trusted us.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:14:46am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:20:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:21:15am

It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:22:47am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:22:58am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

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Among spaniels, rabies is an ideology.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:25:39am

re: #56 teleskiguy

OMG! OMG! OMMFG!!!!

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:28:53am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

Among spaniels, rabies is an ideology.

Amongst the Ku Klux Klan, starched sheets are an ideology.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:30:19am

re: #227 Anymouse

Amongst the Ku Klux Klan, starched sheets are an ideology.

Washing them first is an affectation.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:30:32am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:33:11am

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

“Engineering schools,” Bannon said, “are all full of people from South Asia, and East Asia. . . . They’ve come in here to take these jobs.” Meanwhile, Bannon said, American students “can’t get engineering degrees; they can’t get into these graduate schools because they are all foreign students. When they come out, they can’t get a job.”

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:34:22am

Why Obama hasn’t been active right now:

Before he left office 11 days ago, President Barack Obama maintained that he didn’t want to become a figurehead for liberal opposition to Donald Trump’s presidency. “I believe in the wisdom that George Washington showed, that at a certain point, you make room for—for new voices and fresh legs,” he said.

I understand that, and 80% agree. But we’re also approaching time when we’re going to need all warriors.

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lizardofid  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:35:06am

re: #192 Anymouse

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Would that be a saeculum?

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:37:27am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

And there’s this:

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:38:13am

re: #233 Anymouse

I’m guessing it was all those foreigners in Central Michigan that kept me out of college.

Oh wait, it was poverty.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:39:46am

re: #234 Anymouse

I’m guessing it was all those foreigners in Central Michigan that kept me out of college.

Oh wait, it was poverty.

If Betsy DeVos gets her way, no Americans will ever get into engineering school again, ever, because they won’t know basic math.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:41:52am

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

If Betsy DeVos gets her way, no Americans will ever get into engineering school again, ever, because they won’t know basic math.

Naw. Medieval Europe was full of faith-based bridges and buildings. Worked for them.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:42:38am

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

If Betsy DeVos gets her way, no Americans will ever get into engineering school again, ever, because they won’t know basic math.

I suspect your knowledge of “basic math” is superior to mine: So far out front you’ve already lapped me a dozen times before I get out of bed.

On the other hand, perhaps she will make ancient Modern English Great Again (by requiring mandatory Bible reading from the KJV - wingnut edition)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:43:00am

In Thiel’s view of the Future, all other countries are smoking ruins.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:43:38am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Naw. Medieval Europe was full of faith-based bridges and buildings. Worked for them.

Make Flying Buttresses Great Again!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:45:48am

CMIIW but didn’t Thomas Cromwell get his head chopped off eventually?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:45:55am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

In Thiel’s view of the Future, all other countries are smoking ruins.

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Theil might change his mind after China conquers both New Zealand and Australia following their outright reclamation of Taiwan. /

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CuriousLurker  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:46:43am

For your morning amusement—can’t wait for the pretzel logic his fans come up with:

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:47:21am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Make Flying Buttresses Great Again!

Surprisingly few cathedrals toppled, because they were about 5X overbuilt. The true faith-based engineering was Florence’s Santa Maria di Fiore. They defined the footprint about 200 years before anyone had any idea of how to dome it. Fantastic book on that:

amazon.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:49:09am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

CMIIW but didn’t Thomas Cromwell get his head chopped off eventually?

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Why yes! Yes he did lose his head! after he arranged Henry VIII’s 4th marriage and Henry was so pissed that his new wife was only a 3 instead of a 10.

The ugly wife was sent home so she kept her unattractive head.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:49:39am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

CMIIW but didn’t Thomas Cromwell get his head chopped off eventually?

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Maxmillan de Robespierre had a similar worldview. Like Cromwell, Robespierre ultimately wound up a little bit lighter between the shoulders.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:52:45am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Make Flying Buttresses Great Again!

Hey, our village’s high school gym has flying buttresses, because the gym is built on sand.

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lizardofid  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:54:56am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

Surprisingly few cathedrals toppled, because they were about 5X overbuilt. The true faith-based engineering was Florence’s Santa Maria di Fiore. They defined the footprint about 200 years before anyone had any idea of how to dome it. Fantastic book on that:

amazon.com

I think that was mentioned in the Netflix series Medici: Masters of Florence

(the Santa Maria that is)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 5:55:38am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:00:50am

He awakens:

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:01:17am

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Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:01:35am

re: #247 lizardofid

That was mentioned in the Netflix series Medici: Masters of Florence

It’s still the largest masonry dome in the world. The first dome to exceed it was Fuller’s, done for Ford Motors in the 1960s. Don’t know if Ford’s still exists. VB?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:02:15am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

CMIIW but didn’t Thomas Cromwell get his head chopped off eventually?

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Yep. Had to check since Henry VIII also had Thomas Cranmer.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:03:18am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:03:21am

re: #249 Anymouse

He awakens:

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Those dastardly little kids. Fuck you Donald. Seriously stop goddamn lying.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:04:27am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Why yes! Yes he did lose his head! after he arranged Henry VIII’s 4th marriage and Henry was so pissed that his new wife was only a 3 instead of a 10.

The ugly wife was sent home so she kept her unattractive head.

To bridge that analogy, if Trump inexplicably dumps Bannon, it will be because of something so utterly stupid and ridiculous.

I don’t see that happening, but this regime is simultaneously malicious and steeped in dumbassery. It’s like they want to outdo a kakistocracy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:05:06am

re: #253 Anymouse

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Jackson was at least self made and fought for himself. Trump is best compared to someone like Silvio Berlusconi and the many dictators that exist in the former Soviet Republics imo.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:05:31am

re: #253 Anymouse

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One of the two was not a cowardly chickenhawk, however.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:05:44am

re: #251 Decatur Deb

It’s still the largest masonry dome in the world. The first dome to exceed it was Fuller’s, done for Ford Motors in the 1960s. Don’t know if Fords still exists. VB?

Sadly the Ford Rotunda burned down in 1962.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:06:04am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:06:32am

re: #253 Anymouse

Both wanted to exterminate the First Nations.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:08:50am

Greets and saluts from the resistance.

It’s a story that has everything. Daddy bailing out failing kid. Railing against environmental protection requirements. Seeking government bailout/handouts.

Trifecta of Trump.

That’s actually the amusing story of the morning, rather than the fact that Democrats are waffling over how to address the fact that Trump is filling the seat that should have been filled by Obama but for GOP Obstructionism.

Obstructionism wins. Democrats still think there’s another way to play this, except it will only piss off an already pissed off base that has seen the elected officials cringe and hide away from confronting the GOP.

The GOP acts like a bully and gets away with it. Democrats show spine and the media demands that they accede to GOP demands to go along with the new rules (which are GOP-centric).

Meanwhile, Russia is again engaging in war against Ukraine and Bannon or Trump are silent at the White House. The White House silence is assent to Putin’s moves.

We told you this would happen if Bannon/Trump were elected, but people didn’t care.

EMAILS!

We told you that Trump would push the usual stable of conservative justices who will shift the balance of the court for a generation to come and look to erode church/state separation, reduce access to abortion/birth control, and gut civil rights protections generally. Did you listen? No, you decided that you’d take your chances.

EMAILS!

We told you that Trump would enact a Muslim ban. He did. You didn’t listen and you voted for him anyways (and now watch in horror as relatives are affected - yeah we see you in Philly).

BENGHAZI! (just seeing if you’re paying attention; of course it was EMAILS!)

We told you that Trump would not be good for Jews or Israel. You didn’t listen and voted for him anyways (and now watch as Israelis are realizing that moving the embassy to Jerusalem would launch another Intifada, eliminate US as a honest broker, and destabilize Jordan and the rest of the region).

EMAILS!

Everywhere you turn, Trump’s pushing a regressive, reactionary, and divisive policy agenda that benefits no one. It doesn’t improve national security, doesn’t improve the economy, and will enrich those who are already well off to be insulated from the fallout from his decisions.

Putin’s so very proud.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:09:19am

re: #259 Anymouse

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But he knows the cyber!

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:10:06am

I wonder if “cyber czar” noun-verb 911 is sharing the same password as Sean Spicer and the rest of the merry band of fascist.

Giuliani: It would be much harder to hack us if we use the same difficult password.
Spicer: I know! Let’s use the default password of my Westell wireless router! No one would guess that.!

(Spicer tweets wireless router password so everyone can copy it down.)

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:13:56am

re: #261 lawhawk

It’s only a matter of time before Putin drops the other shoe on all of us.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:14:02am

A friend of mine has a friend who went to college with Neil Gorsuch. This is a photo that person took of his yearbook.

Removing pic as I took it without permission. Will repost the quote.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:14:56am

Snark:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:16:47am

re: #265 darthstar

A friend of mine has a friend who went to college with Neil Gorsuch. This is a photo that person took of his yearbook.

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Can’t say I’m surprised knowing what I know about his mother’s job as EPA admin. My cousin is a lifer there and she says her older coworkers still recoil hearing Ma Gorsuch’s name.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:17:21am

re: #265 darthstar

A friend of mine has a friend who went to college with Neil Gorsuch. This is a photo that person took of his yearbook.

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He needed Kissinger’s glasses.

The Simpsons - Homer with glasses

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:18:30am

re: #265 darthstar

A friend of mine has a friend who went to college with Neil Gorsuch. This is a photo that person took of his yearbook.

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This just seems too, I dunno, urban legendy. Waiting for Snopes to confirm or debunk.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:18:33am

EU & Mexico accelerate trade talks. Bilateral talks feel weird when you’re not part of them.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:19:37am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

Because Americans are stupid as shit? I told someone recently that I took an applied calculus class in college and they looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. And that was for taking an applied calculus class. Imagine if I told them I had taken four semesters of calculus, I might have been burned at the stake.

But, hey, we apparently need an affirmative action program for stupid white people now.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:22:14am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

This just seems too, I dunno, urban legendy. Waiting for Snopes to confirm or debunk.

Haven’t seen anything yet but wouldn’t be a bad idea to bookmark this tag they have for Gorsuch:

snopes.com

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Weaselone  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:22:26am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

So Bannon, in addition to all his other faults, is also a moron. Foreign students keep many of these engineering programs afloat. Eliminating these students isn’t going to lead to these programs being filled with qualified US citizens. They’re going to end up with significantly fewer engineering graduates, either because the programs maintain standards and don’t have enough qualified applicants to fill the spots, or because the programs lower admission standards to fill the slots and the students mostly wash out. My program probably saw half of the students transfer to different majors during the first semester despite the fact that most of us only had one major specific course that semester. I can only assume those numbers increase drastically in an American’s only program.

This only broaches the short term implications of these type of decisions. Sure, booting out all the foreign born engineers might be a boon US citizens that have these skills, or some semblance of the skills, but long term companies are just going to move/expand elsewhere where they have access to a sufficient talent pool.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:23:54am

re: #272 Myron Falwell

Haven’t seen anything yet but wouldn’t be a bad idea to bookmark this tag Gorsuch:

snopes.com

Yeah there’s gonna be a lot of stuff coming out on him in the days to come. Let’s be accurate and beat him with his own words and actions like we did Bork.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:24:25am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

This just seems too, I dunno, urban legendy. Waiting for Snopes to confirm or debunk.

Don’t bother. I took the image down as I haven’t asked to borrow it yet and he got it from a colleague/friend.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:24:30am

re: #271 Timothy Watson

Because Americans are stupid as shit? I told someone recently that I took an applied calculus class in college and they looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. And that was for taking an applied calculus class. Imagine if I told them I had taken four semesters of calculus, I might have been burned at the stake.

But, hey, we apparently need an affirmative action program for stupid white people now.

Well, calculus to me is all Greek.

Applied calculus is applied Greek.

I wouldn’t burn you at the stake, though. I might give you that look that says “damn I feel stupid.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:25:46am

re: #162 Alyosha

It’s been the devil’s own day…

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A reward for being a lackey all the way.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:27:07am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Yeah there’s gonna be a lot of stuff coming out on him in the days to come. Let’s be accurate and beat him with his own words and actions like we did Kissinger.

Snopes has really stepped up their game since they committed to fact-checking in real time.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:27:17am

One of my Lit teachers was a fairly reactionary priest who hated modern art, except he gave a pass to modern Architecture.

“If you paint dreck, you can hang it on a wall and some fool will buy it. If you build dreck, it falls down.”

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:28:17am

Snopes this.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:29:47am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

My son, an chemistry/math double major, is currently taking Abstract Algebra to go along with his chemistry.

How about this, Mr. Bannon: A big reason we don’t see as many Americans in those engineering schools is that it costs a lot of money, and your party keeps trying to exclude people who would pursue those degrees.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:29:53am

re: #280 darthstar

Snopes this.

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Oh that’s indisputably true. His signature also is that of a failed polygraph test.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:31:39am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:31:57am

The kleptocracy continues to drain the swamp:

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:33:55am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:37:51am

re: #281 Belafon

My son, an chemistry/math double major, is currently taking Abstract Algebra to go along with his chemistry.

How about this, Mr. Bannon: A big reason we don’t see as many Americans in those engineering schools is that it costs a lot of money, and your party keeps trying to exclude people who would pursue those degrees.

If I’d had the money, I might have attended college.

When I left the military, the VA assessed me with an exam what college pursuits I would be good with. (I do not know how they determine this with a test.)

The results were:
Physics
Chemistry
Mathematics

They then rated me “unemployable” and took my college benefits.

I would go to school today if I had the bloody money. Nope. There is no way I can even come close to tuition costs.

My best friend was in a motorcycle accident near Cecil Field NAS that kept him in the hospital nearly six months. A mile of wire in his back, &c. VA qualified him for physics, paid for eight years, even sent him to CERN for an internship and paid for it.

He is now a university professor. (He is of the opinion I got the shaft.) There is no appeal to the VA “unemployable ” decision, so I am stuck on VA disability.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:41:55am

re: #286 Anymouse

That seems to describe the closing off of disability-based college assistance from VA. What about the service-based GI college benefits based simply on service, the same kind every enlistee is supposed to get?

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Franklin  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:44:49am
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garzooma  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:46:46am

re: #286 Anymouse

When I left the military, the VA assessed me with an exam what college pursuits I would be good with. (I do not know how they determine this with a test.)

The results were:
Physics
Chemistry
Mathematics

They then rated me “unemployable” and took my college benefits.
[…]
There is no appeal to the VA “unemployable ” decision, so I am stuck on VA disability.

They said you were unemployable due to disability for Physics?!?!. Have they heard of Stephen Hawking?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:47:38am

re: #288 Franklin

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I just want to know how those who insist “society’s all soft now” would have reacted if Obama had mocked McConnell the way Trump did Schumer. As Neil Brennan said hte other night, Trump is the ultimate snowflake.

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:47:50am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I know. I regret supporting him now.

Did we have a choice?

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:49:26am

re: #12 teleskiguy

Don’t miss it if you can.

*spit*

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Couldn’t they at least get a Democrat too, for balance?

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Franklin  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:51:32am
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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:53:03am

Democrats will continue to be out maneuvered and out voted at every turn, and they’re still acting as though giving a thumbs up to any of the GOP picks will somehow benefit them in the long run.

There’s no reason to see any benefit from any of the GOP picks.

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:53:10am

re: #35 KGxvi

I guess that means that DiFi is apparently not running for reelection. Can’t really say I’m sad to see her go, she probably should have retired a while ago.

I’m afraid she is. Unlike Barbara Boxer she doesn’t have the decency to step down and let a younger person take her seat. She’s just embarrassing herself now.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:53:32am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Sounds high

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Colère Tueur de Lapin - merde, nous allons mour  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:53:45am

re: #183 darthstar

What do you want to bet this guy voted for Trump?

Video

Don’t know about you all, but when there is water spurting up through the road, I’ma thinking, bad idea. Ah gots a fuhr-whele drave, I’m good.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:54:34am

re: #293 Franklin

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Shut up Grayson Allen.

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2017 • 6:59:43am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Likely their intention

That’s the way Fox always works.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:02:16am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:03:35am

re: #300 The Vicious Babushka

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And watch if the Dems do that in the future without them, they’ll bitch up a storm.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:04:16am

re: #287 Decatur Deb

That seems to describe the closing off of disability-based college assistance from VA. What about the service-based GI college benefits based simply on service, the same kind every enlistee is supposed to get?

At the time I reënlisted after my broken service, the Montgomery GI Bill had not come into effect, and the Vietnam Era Assistance Programme (a contribution programme) had just been repealed. There is about a year and a half period where there were no college benefits for serving in the military.

But the law requires withdrawing college benefits provided by military service if you are declared unemployable by the VA anyway. (Epilepsy is an automatic finding of unemployability, regardless whether it can be controlled by medication, surgery, or other methods, or not.)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:07:39am

They don’t care about lying. They lie even if it doesn’t make any difference.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:08:23am

re: #302 Anymouse

At the time I reënlisted after my broken service, the Montgomery GI Bill had not come into effect, and the Vietnam Era Assistance Programme (a contribution programme) had just been repealed. There is about a year and a half period where there were no college benefits for serving in the military.

But the law requires withdrawing college benefits provided by military service if you are declared unemployable by the VA anyway. (Epilepsy is an automatic finding of unemployability, regardless whether it can be controlled by medication, surgery, or other methods, or not.)

You guys got fucked. I was under the WWII GI Bill—you served, you went to college. College isn’t a trade school.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:08:48am

re: #303 Anymouse

They don’t care about lying. They lie even if it doesn’t make any difference.

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Spicer seems to have gotten his boss’s habit of lying about stupid and easily proven bs.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:09:57am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

You guys got fucked. I was under the WWII GI Bill—you served, you went to college. College isn’t a trade school.

Did traditional WWII GI cover trade school? Not sure but family story was that’s how my mom’s dad learned brickmasonry since he really wasn’t ready for college.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:10:49am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Spicer seems to have gotten his boss’s habit of lying about stupid and easily proven bs.

Because the lie is the goal. When we can’t tell the difference the New Fascist Man is complete.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:11:26am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Because the lie is the goal. When we can’t tell the difference the New Fascist Man is complete.

Certainly true.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:12:56am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Did traditional WWII GI cover trade school? Not sure but family story was that’s how my mom’s dad learned brickmasonry since he really wasn’t ready for college.

Yes, or machining or photography. And it would send you to Paris to study Existentialism, if that’s how you wanted to spend the allotment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:14:12am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:14:31am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

You guys got fucked. I was under the WWII GI Bill—you served, you went to college. College isn’t a trade school.

And the trade school I did go to (aviation electronics school plus advanced first term avionics) is useless to me because no one will hire an electronics technician with epilepsy - and FAA regulations prohibit me working in aviation at all - despite holding an FCC Radiotelephone First Class licence with ship’s radar endorsement since age twenty-four.

But VA benefits can be applied to a trade school as well: They can be used for anything (cosmetology, carpentry, pipe fitting, you name it). I get none of it.

I’m glad you got the WW2 GI Bill. When my father was killed in the Vietnam War, its benefits accrued to my mother, who obtained a degree in clinical psychology.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:14:44am

The GOP continues to grab power, and there are people wondering whether it’s appropriate to call white supremacists white supremacists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:14:45am

re: #309 Decatur Deb

Yes, or machining or photography. And it would send you to Paris to study Existentialism, if that’s how you wanted to spend the allotment.

Yeah thought so. Anyhow, I owe it to the GI Bill to why I’m where I am. Grandpa would have likely be stuck in the mines like his father and father in law or the steel mills, neither of which he liked had he not taken that opportunity.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:17:20am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

That is probably best for Reuters journalists. They have long been in the business of reporting on authoritarian regimes, presumably they know how to recognise one.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:18:14am

re: #312 lawhawk

How about the all-purpose “fascist.” That pretty much covers it.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:19:30am

re: #312 lawhawk

You may be implying this, but thought Bouie’s point was that we can’t just go around saying “white supremacist.” People who say it need to understand exactly what it means and act against it, not just use it as an insult.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:19:53am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:20:45am

re: #317 The Vicious Babushka

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Why, yes, I too find abolitionism admirable.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:21:43am

re: #203 Anymouse

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:21:58am

re: #317 The Vicious Babushka

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I guess we should consider ourselves lucky someone in the White House didn’t confuse Frederick Douglass with Stephen Douglas.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:23:02am

re: #316 Belafon

I agree with Bouie. People need to understand exactly what’s going on here. Whitewashing the term and inserting a different one because you’re concerned white supremacist or white nationalist is a pejorative is just wrong.

White supremacist is a pejorative - and with good reason. It’s an ideology whose intent and purpose will harm millions of people, and wont stop with whites (they’ll start going after the shades - Jews, non Christians, Muslims).

Bannon’s made no secret of his intentions, and Trump’s going along with it. There’s no one challenging Bannon, who now appears to be running the joint.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:24:13am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

The Ukrainians fucked up—they trusted us.

I recall that when the USSR fell apart, it left Ukraine with the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal in the world. They agreed to disarm against promises from the West to guarantee their territorial integrity.

Now that we have reneged, is it not only fair that we give them their nukes back so they can defend themselves?

/

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:24:39am

re: #300 The Vicious Babushka

So they nuked the quorum rule.

Exact the filibuster on Gorsuch, let Turtle Boy nuke THAT rule, and just go home for the rest of the entire term. Refuse to show up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:26:59am

re: #229 Anymouse

Trumps a unifying force: W/ his admin now saying Germany manipulatng the Euro, Europe banding together economically against US. Putin smiles.

Trump’s staffer pointed out correctly that Germany profits from a Euro exchange rate that undervalues German products.

Switzerland faced a real crisis a few years back when their Franc was so high that it had a bad effect on exports and tourism, they had to undertake steps to lower it artificially.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:33:31am

re: #289 garzooma

They said you were unemployable due to disability for Physics?!?!. Have they heard of Stephen Hawking?

Apparently not. My shipmate from the Navy uses a cane (and sometimes a walker). The issue is epilepsy: It is automatically determined to be debilitating for all work.

I had a friend once who was manager of Independence Mall in Missouri. She had uncontrolled myoclonic seizures (sudden shutdown of the nervous system, everything goes limp and you instantly fall, followed by quick recovery). The mall had no problem with that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:33:39am
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while(1) worries++;  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:35:33am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post has a long article about Bannon’s megalomania & his bizarre and dangerous worldviews.

Why can’t “Americans get engineering degrees”? What is stopping them? (Asking for a friend)

I graduated from an engineering school in 1986 with a math degree.

WSyBAmRKp8Jtlvuta1aaIFiDoyh6Wvxr9f1OvEkaCsabtCuJNC86N6x4Wt7kBLwtr+x4IcPLcREozOjhloKgmogNnxoYK/AVtHkRr0wjZTSgBe+6evxZs8+6zyC9XscU3vL34M8olDFsCgVYj9ZDWsUfCj96od36XYlhKyQKrozM3B5bynHZ2okP5TbM8tAEFFBFJjNdkh2GBnvCOD8MiJP83vXM8M1NffLQBb+2LtM8gmuQKrdmS9oYaaJc+RN4m+cneMB/l8rAHcADeex0w/tyBiuzcbVXw3u8BwTRYc1RLVjtaG3Nwg==

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:39:08am

re: #323 Myron Falwell

So they nuked the quorum rule.

Exact the filibuster on Gorsuch, let Turtle Boy nuke THAT rule, and just go home for the rest of the entire term. Refuse to show up.

Republicans then declare the Democratic seats open (the same way we can on my village board if a seat is abandoned), and that’s that. One party rule.

Ban the Democratic Party and that’s it. The Democrats need to be in Congress and in those committees, even if they will lose most fights. They need to get on record, on television, and in the Congressional Record what our position is. We need to show we are fighting for the people.

Showing up at protests against egregious politics, such as the Muslim ban (Rep. Lewis, Sen. Warren, et al.) shows who the brave members of Congress are (Democrats) and who the craven ones who run from their constituents are (Republicans).

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:40:40am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:42:16am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

Declaring publicly CNN is “fake news” is only a short step from a law or order banning “fake news” for the public good. (Perhaps something along the lines of the Fairness Doctrine before President Reagan nuked it, but worded in such a way that “fake news” outlets like CNN or NBC are banned.)

The press better get on this or they are going to find themselves banned. That wouldn’t be good for CBS, despite what its CEO thinks.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:43:11am

I need smiles and laughs. I think some of you do, too.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:43:33am

So, Lizards, here’s a thought; who would you figure will be the first European country to offer Americans political asylum?

It may sound outlandish, but Trump seems to be going full-tilt authoritarian. If his administration starts committing serious human rights abuses, I could see the possibility of an EU country saying they’d willing to grant US citizens asylum from they would refer to as “a tyrannical regime”.

I’d say Sweden.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:46:56am

re: #332 Dr Lizardo

So, Lizards, here’s a thought; who would you figure will be the first European country to offer Americans political asylum?

It may sound outlandish, but Trump seems to be going full-tilt authoritarian. If his administration starts committing serious human rights abuses, I could see the possibility of an EU country saying they’d willing to grant US citizens asylum from they would refer to as “a tyrannical regime”.

I’d say Sweden.

Germany.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:47:15am

re: #332 Dr Lizardo

So, Lizards, here’s a thought; who would you figure will be the first European country to offer Americans political asylum?

It may sound outlandish, but Trump seems to be going full-tilt authoritarian. If his administration starts committing serious human rights abuses, I could see the possibility of an EU country saying they’d willing to grant US citizens asylum from they would refer to as “a tyrannical regime”.

I’d say Sweden.

Canada.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:48:16am

re: #334 MsJ

Canada.

Yeah, yeah…not EU. I still think Canada.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:48:23am

re: #334 MsJ

Canada.

He said European country.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:48:34am
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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:48:37am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:49:34am

re: #334 MsJ

Canada.

Canada’s not in Europe. But they will inevitably do so, much to the annoyance of the Canadian far right.

Gov. Jerry Brown may even do so.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:50:31am

re: #332 Dr Lizardo

So, Lizards, here’s a thought; who would you figure will be the first European country to offer Americans political asylum?

It may sound outlandish, but Trump seems to be going full-tilt authoritarian. If his administration starts committing serious human rights abuses, I could see the possibility of an EU country saying they’d willing to grant US citizens asylum from they would refer to as “a tyrannical regime”.

I’d say Sweden.

I have an offer from a Swiss physician and her retired physician husband to sponsor my wife and me into Switzerland already (if the government doesn’t go full wingnut and deport me to Poland first).

That said, I am wondering if the first two countries to offer asylum might be Canada and Mexico.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:50:48am

re: #333 The Vicious Babushka

Germany.

If Merkel doesn’t get ousted by the Putin-backed far right, though.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:51:09am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

He said European country.

I know, see my 335.

American’s, in general, do not speak other languages and will have a harder time in non-English speaking countries. Unless they have background (family, etc., from those countries), I don’t know how many American’s will go overseas.

Me? I would move to Belgium in a heartbeat. I loved it there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:51:12am

This will stop you from even

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:51:21am

re: #340 Anymouse

I could see Canada doing it. I could see Germany doing it just to flip the bird to Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:52:35am

re: #341 Myron Falwell

If Merkel doesn’t get ousted by the Putin-backed far right, though.

Exactly. If she can hang in there - or even if the SPD ends up in charge after this year’s elections. Maybe another SPD/CDU grand coalition, but with the roles reversed.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:54:08am

re: #342 MsJ

I know, see my 335.

American’s, in general, do not speak other languages and will have a harder time in non-English speaking countries. Unless they have background (family, etc., from those countries), I don’t know how many American’s will go overseas.

Me? I would move to Belgium in a heartbeat. I loved it there.

I speak Canadian, eh. “Two orders of poutine and we’ll go get some Tim Bits later.” /s

I also speak Spanish thanks to being posted to Spain, and Portuguese due to my exchange student year in Brazil. (I’ll take Portugal for a thousand dollars, Alex.) I’ve also been to Portugal several times by car from Rota. I can find it on a map; it’s somewhere east of me. /s

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:54:36am

I will shake my head if Mexico, backed by the EU and other countries, is the first to openly declare war against the United States. Thus setting up the domino effect as other countries declare war against either Russia or the United States.

With the way nationalist alliances were set up in the early 1910s, it allowed a regional war declared after Archduke Ferdinand’s assassination to immediately cascade into World War I.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:55:14am

In case you didn’t see the full statement from Trudeau’s office. Ouch.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:56:14am

re: #347 Myron Falwell

I will shake my head if Mexico, backed by the EU and other countries, is the first to openly declare war against the United States. Thus setting up the domino effect as other countries declare war against either Russia or the United States.

With the way nationalist alliances were set up in the early 1910s, it allowed a regional war declared after Archduke Ferdinand’s assassination to immediately cascade into World War I.

They’re not going to declare war unless we attack. Don’t go too far off the deep end.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:56:25am

re: #347 Myron Falwell

I will shake my head if Mexico, backed by the EU and other countries, is the first to openly declare war against the United States. Thus setting up the domino effect as other countries declare war against either Russia or the United States.

With the way nationalist alliances were set up in the early 1910s, it allowed a regional war declared after Archduke Ferdinand’s assassination to immediately cascade into World War I.

With two nuclear “superpowers”? I don’t see that happening unless we really are looking at global annihilation.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 7:58:59am

re: #347 Myron Falwell

Not. Going. To. Happen.

It just isn’t.

No rational acting nation is going to attack a nuclear power (let alone an alliance of two nuclear powers), knowing that life as we know it would be extinguished in 45 minutes or your money back.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:01:27am

If I had the choice of going to two EU countries, I’d choose Ireland- roots there, no need to learn the language, and I love the people and culture or Portugal- great climate, fell in love with the people there, and although I don’t speak Portuguese, a lot of Portuguese people do speak English. I don’t think teaching English would be my thing. Who knows, maybe bartend by night and write by day. Yep, I’m a romantic so sue me.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:01:51am

Is this the story mentioned above that people were discussing as real?

fox2detroit.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:02:55am

re: #353 MsJ

Is this the story mentioned above that people were discussing as real?

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fox2detroit.com

From the link:

DETROIT (WJBK) - Questions have been raised about the validity of Mike Hager’s claims that his mother died while waiting for approval to come to Michigan. FOX 2 news is working to resolve the questions about Hager’s story. We’ll update this page with further details.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:03:20am

re: #347 Myron Falwell

I will shake my head if Mexico, backed by the EU and other countries, is the first to openly declare war against the United States. Thus setting up the domino effect as other countries declare war against either Russia or the United States.

With the way nationalist alliances were set up in the early 1910s, it allowed a regional war declared after Archduke Ferdinand’s assassination to immediately cascade into World War I.

I’m guessing exactly zero countries would go to war against Russia or the USA. Between us we hold eighty percent of the world’s nuclear weaponry.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:03:37am

re: #353 MsJ

Is this the story mentioned above that people were discussing as real?

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fox2detroit.com

Yeah, that source even has a disclaimer at the top of the story.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:03:44am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:04:00am

re: #350 MsJ

With two nuclear “superpowers”? I don’t see that happening unless we really are looking at global annihilation.

With these people in charge… 😕

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:04:46am

re: #354 The Vicious Babushka

From the link:

I missed that. Thank you!

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:05:51am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Yeah, that source even has a disclaimer at the top of the story.

How sad am I? I don’t read stuff like that in italics at the top of a page as it is usually a descriptor of the photo.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:06:32am

re: #358 Myron Falwell

With these people in charge… 😕

I get what you are saying and your fears but I just do not see that happening. The other countries are going to hit us economically, not physically.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:06:43am
More than 23 years ago, Robert Jones was convicted of robbing, kidnapping and raping a woman in 1992 in Orleans Parish and then soon after pleaded guilty to a pair of other crimes, one of which included killing a tourist in New Orleans’ French Quarter in 1996. Yesterday, on his 44th birthday, Jones was exonerated of those crimes. The Orleans Parish District Attorney’s Office announced that it would not retry him for the 1992 crimes and vacated the other charges to which he’d falsely pleaded guilty.

innocenceproject.org

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:07:30am

My wife is starting on the first “brain hat” for the sister Scientists March on Washington that I signed my village up for.

She looked at the ravelry.com download for the hat, and remarked “that is the first time I have seen the picture of an actual brain used in a knitting pattern.”

(The pattern uses different pictures of brains to show where pins go to affix knitted tubing to a flat hat to knit a brain.)

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:07:31am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:09:42am

re: #361 MsJ

I get what you are saying and your fears but I just do not see that happening. The other countries are going to hit us economically, not physically.

Which would give them cause to attack a neighboring country, then the domino effect.

I may have misstated the original post. A country like Mexico will not attack a nuclear superpower unless provoked. And the United States — now firmly under the control of Dominionists — and Russia have the capability of provoking an attack.

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Franklin  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:09:49am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:10:56am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

innocenceproject.org

I was watching a show called Death Row stories. The New Orleans’ DA office led by singer Harry Conick, Jr’s father was bloody awful during that time.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:11:26am

Al Franken calling out Cruz and Sessions for lies about Session’s civil rights record in confirmation hearings.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:13:00am

re: #365 Myron Falwell

Which would give them cause to attack a neighboring country, then the domino effect.

I may have misstated the original post. A country like Mexico will not attack a nuclear superpower unless provoked. And the United States — now firmly under the control of Dominionists — and Russia have the capability of provoking an attack.

While anything is possible, I don’t see that happening. Don’t worry about things like that. If we start to wonder What If, we’re going to drive ourselves to early graves.

Yeah, everything Trump sucks. But I don’t think we’re anywhere near there yet.

Keep Calm and Carry On.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:13:39am
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:34am

Brutal assessment by The Economist.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:22:09am

Session’s nomination passes senate committee vote 11-9, party lines.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:22:40am

re: #371 MsJ

Brutal assessment by The Economist.

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When people feel insecure they don’t spend as much.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:25:13am

re: #365 Myron Falwell

Which would give them cause to attack a neighboring country, then the domino effect.

I may have misstated the original post. A country like Mexico will not attack a nuclear superpower unless provoked. And the United States — now firmly under the control of Dominionists — and Russia have the capability of provoking an attack.

I don’t see any particular benefit to Russia to perpetrate an attack by Mexico on the United States as a pretext for war.

On the other hand, I feel like I am getting into tin-foil hat territory thinking that the administration might create a false flag attack (much like Germany did with Poland in WW2) as a pretext for an invasion of Mexico. (Mr. Trump thinks it is okay to conquer a nation to take their oil, as he said about Iraq.)

Even with a brazen illegal invasion of our neighbour, no one would come to Mexico’s defence: most nations do not have the ability to project military power beyond their land borders. It would be suicide for a nation to defend Mexico against the USA: most nations would be crushed if the goal was simply punishment and not occupation. (For example, the United Kingdom, which does have the ability to project power, declares the move illegal and joins Mexico to resist. The USA launches two hundred or more cruise missiles on the UK. War over for the UK.)

That is also why California seceding is folly: It could be crushed by two or three US Navy ships, never mind an entire aircraft carrier task force.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:26:08am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

When people feel insecure they don’t spend as much.

…on the other hand, when people know that their currency is plummeting in value rapidly, they go out and spend it as fast as they can!

Weimar time!!!

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:27:07am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…on the other hand, when people know that their currency is plummeting in value rapidly, they go out and spend it as fast as they can!

Weimar time!!!

Think of all the jobs created to print money to keep up.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:27:23am

re: #325 Anymouse

Apparently not. My shipmate from the Navy uses a cane (and sometimes a walker). The issue is epilepsy: It is automatically determined to be debilitating for all work.

I had a friend once who was manager of Independence Mall in Missouri. She had uncontrolled myoclonic seizures (sudden shutdown of the nervous system, everything goes limp and you instantly fall, followed by quick recovery). The mall had no problem with that.

From what frickin’ century are they obtaining their medical information?

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garzooma  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:30:33am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Yeah, that source even has a disclaimer at the top of the story.

The Boston Herald also reported it:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2017/01/travelers_held_despite_stay

Who’s saying it’s fake?

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:31:59am

re: #377 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

From what frickin’ century are they obtaining their medical information?

I have no idea - apparently they are using the Medical Diagnostic Manual of Demon Possession, Pentecostal Edition. (I have been told by religious wingnuts that I am demon-possessed even in the XXI Century.)

Eugenics has never been explicitly prohibited by the Supreme Court either. That’s why states that practised it in the XX Century fought until the very end of the century to avoid compensation to epileptics declared “feebleminded” by the state, forcibly sterilised, and placed in institutions.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:34:19am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Yeah, that source even has a disclaimer at the top of the story.

I see the station finally got around to putting up a story after tweeting that out yesterday. They were getting pilloried on Twitter about it by viewers, that the only place it could be found was on the station’s Twitter feed.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:35:55am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

When people feel insecure they don’t spend as much.

I am pretty shocked to see that many people did just that. So now, they are in debt and the pound, once Article 50 is triggered, is going to tank, making them pay more for that debt. Plus, untold people are not going to have jobs if they don’t maintain the single market.

I am not always the best money manager but spending like that over the last few months is completely insane.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:36:50am

Dude, just come out of the closet and become an open Republican. You’ll feel so much better embracing your inner fascist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:36:57am

After the election I replaced my “Derp” list for hate-following wingnuts with a “Cuteness” list of animal pictures. It is theraputic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:37:06am

re: #381 MsJ

I am pretty shocked to see that many people did just that. So now, they are in debt and the pound, once Article 50 is triggered, is going to tank, making them pay more for that debt. Plus, untold people are not going to have jobs if they don’t maintain the single market.

I am not always the best money manager but spending like that over the last few months is completely insane.

Britain has a higher consumer debt rate than America, and one of the world’s highest. Lots of people use their credit cards to buy groceries.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:39:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:39:48am

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Tigger2  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:40:00am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:41:16am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

After the election I replaced my “Derp” list for hate-following wingnuts with a “Cuteness” list of animal pictures. It is theraputic.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:42:04am

re: #387 Tigger2

If we could only get all of the 64% of disapprovers to vote.

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Weaselone  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:42:32am

re: #385 Anymouse

I’d let him build there (as long it was actually his company and he wasn’t just plastering his name on the front) and then make sure it lost huge amounts of money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:43:55am

re: #389 Belafon

If we could only get have gotten all of the 64% of disapprovers to vote.

Remember that 54% of voters did not approve of Trump but he won anyways.

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Tigger2  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:44:36am

re: #389 Belafon

If we could only get all of the 64% of disapprovers to vote.

I’m hoping this is waking some of them up.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:45:09am

More cute. (I do guinea pigs for cute.) For all those math nerds who weighed in on this thread about calkulush or whatever that Aramaic astronomy stuff was:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:45:19am

re: #392 Tigger2

I’m hoping this is waking some of them up.

horse, barn door, close, etc…

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:45:43am

re: #387 Tigger2

Polling doesn’t matter to Trump as he continues gutting institutions of government. The GOP continues to support Trump as he pushes policies they approve of. Their silence is assent.

They’re silent about Russian attacks against Ukraine. Silence = assent.

They see only the power they’re gaining by Trump pushing EOs and nominees unqualified, unprepared, or who have lied to the Senate during confirmation hearings.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:46:08am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that 54% of voters did not approve of Trump but he won anyways.

True, but we have to deal with the future we have, not the one we wish we had.

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Tigger2  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:47:25am

re: #395 lawhawk

Polling doesn’t matter to Trump as he continues gutting institutions of government. The GOP continues to support Trump as he pushes policies they approve of. Their silence is assent.

They’re silent about Russian attacks against Ukraine. Silence = assent.

They see only the power they’re gaining by Trump pushing EOs and nominees unqualified, unprepared, or who have lied to the Senate during confirmation hearings.

When he messes with Medicare and SS he is messing with older Republican voters.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:47:56am

re: #389 Belafon

If we could only get all of the 64% of disapprovers to vote.

They’re both corrupt parties so what difference would it make? /not s

Besides, if things get really bad I could just go to New Zealand or Canada or (insert English-speaking country here)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:48:49am

re: #397 Tigger2

When he messes with Medicare and SS he is messing with older Republican voters.

The plan will be to phase them out. Current recipients keep their benefits, everyone else loses theirs.

I got mine, FU

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:50:48am

When something that looks like it ought to be food is bigger than you. This kitten looks vaguely terrified.

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garzooma  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:08am

re: #388 Anymouse

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I dunno — that guinea pig looks kind of worried. What did Woody Allen say: “The lion shall lay down with the lamb — but the lamb won’t get much sleep.”

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:15am

re: #397 Tigger2

When he messes with Medicare and SS he is messing with older Republican voters.

Watch how they’ll frame it. They’re saving the program and the cuts would have been lower had Democrats allowed the changes earlier. Just watch.

And they’ll go ahead and buy it as the benefits of Medicare/Medicaid/SS, which they pay taxes specifically dedicated to, are gutted.

They bought into the BS about Obamacare, including those miners who thought Trump would help them, and Obamacare provides specific black lung coverage. Repeal Obamacare and that coverage goes out the window.

The GOP refuses to address fact that their policies all work towards making people destitute and do nothing to improve their quality of life. In fact, the GOP plan is all about burden shifting - from the rich on to everyone else, and the people voting for the GOP think that they’re the ones benefiting. No one ever said logic and reasoning was part of the political process. They just keep voting Republican, no matter how much they get screwed.

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Tigger2  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:26am

re: #399 Anymouse

The plan will be to phase them out. Current recipients keep their benefits, everyone else loses theirs.

I got mine, FU

I think they count on that to much, older Republicans have family members not to the age yet but getting close. They might screw people they don’t know but will think twice about screwing family members.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:53:04am

re: #401 garzooma

I dunno — that guinea pig looks kind of worried. What did Woody Allen say: “The lion shall lay down with the lamb — but the lamb won’t get much sleep.”

When I lived in Oklahoma I had two guinea pigs and a cat. The guinea pigs would cuddle up with the cat.

When I lived in Missouri, I had an open wading pool full of guinea pigs. The three cats in the house would jump in, corral the guinea pigs, and use them to keep warm while they slept in the guinea pig pen.

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(alpuz)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:53:35am

re: #402 lawhawk

Watch how they’ll frame it. They’re saving the program and the cuts would have been lower had Democrats allowed the changes earlier. Just watch.

And they’ll go ahead and buy it as the benefits of Medicare/Medicaid/SS, which they pay taxes specifically dedicated to, are gutted.

They bought into the BS about Obamacare, including those miners who thought Trump would help them, and Obamacare provides specific black lung coverage. Repeal Obamacare and that coverage goes out the window.

The GOP refuses to address fact that their policies all work towards making people destitute and do nothing to improve their quality of life. In fact, the GOP plan is all about burden shifting - from the rich on to everyone else, and the people voting for the GOP think that they’re the ones benefiting. No one ever said logic and reasoning was part of the political process. They just keep voting Republican, no matter how much they get screwed.

This.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:55:18am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:57:27am

re: #406 Anymouse

I expect it to honor all those white people who gave their lives during the Civil War.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:59:55am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Britain has a higher consumer debt rate than America, and one of the world’s highest. Lots of people use their credit cards to buy groceries.

Where they pay it off in payments?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:03am

re: #408 MsJ

Where they pay it off in payments?

All those subdivisions are filled with desperate people living hand-to-mouth to meet their mortgage payments

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:35am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:42am

re: #374 Anymouse

It’s increasingly looking like the only denouement — outside of a military coup d’etat — is through nuclear annihilation.

The American experiment was nice while it lasted.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:02:00am

re: #393 Anymouse

More cute. (I do guinea pigs for cute.) For all those math nerds who weighed in on this thread about calkulush or whatever that Aramaic astronomy stuff was:

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That is because Guinea pigs are freaking adorable! And, they talk! Screeeeee! Screeee, screeee screee!

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:03:49am

re: #369 MsJ

While anything is possible, I don’t see that happening. Don’t worry about things like that. If we start to wonder What If, we’re going to drive ourselves to early graves.

Yeah, everything Trump sucks. But I don’t think we’re anywhere near there yet.

Keep Calm and Carry On.

It gets ridiculously hard to do that. Not of depression but of righteous indignation.

It is what it is.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:03:53am

Trump to GOP: go nuclear on SCOTUS pick.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:04:55am

Guess they’re comparing notes on what it will be like to see their nominations sit, though the GOP will make sure it gets rammed through regardless of what Democrats do.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:07:31am

re: #411 Myron Falwell

It’s increasingly looking like the only denouement — outside of a military coup d’etat — is through nuclear annihilation.

The American experiment was nice while it lasted.

Dude…

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:14am

re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All those subdivisions are filled with desperate people living hand-to-mouth to meet their mortgage payments

Wow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:29am

re: #411 Myron Falwell

It’s increasingly looking like the only denouement — outside of a military coup d’etat — is through nuclear annihilation.

The American experiment was nice while it lasted.

I wish I could disagree with you…

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Donkey With No Name  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:41am

re: #271 Timothy Watson

But, hey, we apparently need an affirmative action program for stupid white people now.

One of the dirty little secrets about affirmative action is that white students actually do benefit from it: they are overrepresented at many elite institutions compared to their test grades…

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:53am

re: #276 Anymouse

Well, calculus to me is all Greek.

Applied calculus is applied Greek.

I wouldn’t burn you at the stake, though. I might give you that look that says “damn I feel stupid.”

Oddly enough, it is.

When I was in Greece, and all the street signs and store names were (naturally) in Greek — whereas my American guide book was in English…

I could phonetically read the street names because I’d taken enough calculus to recognize the letters and know what sounds they must represent. (the non-mathy people from my youth hostel could also recognize letters because they were frat boys).

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:10:56am

re: #416 blueraven

Dude…

Seriously, dude!

Myron, let’s not lose perspective. Don’t freak yourself out. You’re going to stroke out.

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Teukka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:11am

re: #418 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I could disagree with you…

I wish I could disagree too. Maybe a limited exchange followed by military coup d’etats.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:37am

re: #418 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I could disagree with you…

I wish I could disagree with myself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:38am

re: #415 lawhawk

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Guess they’re comparing notes on what it will be like to see their nominations sit, though the GOP will make sure it gets rammed through regardless of what Democrats do.

I hope he told Garland “You really deserve this.”

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:59am

re: #411 Myron Falwell

It’s increasingly looking like the only denouement — outside of a military coup d’etat — is through nuclear annihilation.

The American experiment was nice while it lasted.

Take a breath, man.

Doom Hour isn’t until 10 tonight.
/

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:13:19am

re: #410 Anymouse

I wish they were doing it sooner. That gives the administration too much time.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:14:39am

Mood lightener:

(the kicker is all the things Bill is made to do)

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lizardofid  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:15:52am

re: #415 lawhawk

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Guess they’re comparing notes on what it will be like to see their nominations sit, though the GOP will make sure it gets rammed through regardless of what Democrats do.

I wish someone would ask Mr. Gorsuch, if he thinks, should he be confirmed, history might judge his entire career on the bench, by what was done to Merrick Garland in order to facilitate his ascension.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:17:03am

re: #427 lawhawk

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:19:58am

re: #412 MsJ

That is because Guinea pigs are freaking adorable! And, they talk! Screeeeee! Screeee, screeee screee!

And they popcorn, especially baby ones.

Nebraska cities signed up for the Scientists March on Washington so far:

Omaha (largest city)
Lincoln (state capital)
Broadwater (population 124). We’ll set up our protest in the village park, then march on Village Hall (one block).

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:21:32am

Smarter than many voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:21:58am

re: #430 Anymouse

And they popcorn, especially baby ones.

Nebraska cities signed up for the Scientists March on Washington so far:

Omaha (largest city)
Lincoln (state capital)
Broadwater (population 124). We’ll set up our protest in the village park, then march on Village Hall (one block).

I can already hear the spinners telling us that this is just a bunch of egg-headed ivory tower elitists worried about losing their undue and undemocratic influence on government…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:23:04am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:23:41am

re: #432 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can already hear the spinners telling us that this is just a bunch of egg-headed ivory tower elitists worried about losing their undue and undemocratic influence on government…

Yup. Liberal coastal elite (me) living on the Inland Coast (the Nebraska Sandhills) in a village miles from nowhere, with a high school education.

Sign on a gas station in Sidney, Nebraska near I-80
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:24:06am
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:25:39am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

Might get icing all over your cheeks if you sat on a cake. /s Just sayin’

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:26:27am

Those credit card processing sales people are getting persistent. I told him, in no uncertain terms, why I was so pissed at his industry that I am surprised my number does not appear on a flashing red ‘Do Not Call’ list in the office of every processor in the country, and he starts in on the ‘Oh, we’re not the processor, we’re the ones behind the processor…’ and I said, ‘They all say that. I am hanging up on you now.’ And he calls back. I answer with, ‘Didn’t they teach you anything?’ The number is now blocked. I will be closed tomorrow, when he plans to prowl up and down my street.

Maybe it’s really my counselor, providing another opportunity to manage anger.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:27:34am

re: #421 MsJ

Seriously, dude!

Myron, let’s not lose perspective. Don’t freak yourself out. You’re going to stroke out.

Seeing the forces of evil triumphing the way they are ATM kinda has that effect.

I sometimes feel like I could make Sarah Kenzidor look like an eternal optimist on my lowest days. This is, unfortunately, one of those days…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:27:38am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:28:22am

re: #425 makeitstop

Take a breath, man.

Doom Hour isn’t until 10 tonight.
/

Is Mark Burnett the executive producer? //

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:30:43am

I saw this story and felt a major rant coming on. Instead took a deep breath and Paged. Best way to mess with Trump is hold him accountable for the screwups and tragedies he causes, minute to minute. littlegreenfootballs.com

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:31:45am

re: #438 Myron Falwell

I suffer from depression and generalized anxiety and am on medication for both. It has really helped even me out. I am not sitting idly by, watching this evil happening. I’m marching when there are protests. I am calling congresscritters every single day. I’m telling my daughters every day what exactly I did to stop this craziness and they are really glad I’m doing something and showing outrage when outrage is needed, so I have that to be proud of, that my daughters are actually caring individuals and get upset about injustice and they are only 10 and 12. So, basically, I can sit and be anxious and depressed, or I can do something. I’ve found that doing something works wonders with my state of mind and I’m not depressed, I’m righteously angry. Don’t know if this helps you put a different perspective on how you feel. I hope it does.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:32:11am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a person I know who I think reflects far too many “moderate” voters - he hated what the GOP did, but places more blame on the Dems for not standing up to them when it mattered. His most recent exact words on this subject were “Why didn’t Obama fight harder for Merrick Garland?”

I must confess I kind of feel the same way :/ He was far too nice and deferential to people who turned out to be monsters.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:32:54am

re: #440 Myron Falwell

Is Mark Burnett the executive producer? //

That deal is in the works. It’ll be the best deal.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:33:11am

re: #437 wrenchwench

Those credit card processing sales people are getting persistent. I told him, in no uncertain terms, why I was so pissed at his industry that I am surprised my number does not appear on a flashing red ‘Do Not Call’ list in the office of every processor in the country, and he starts in on the ‘Oh, we’re not the processor, we’re the ones behind the processor…’ and I said, ‘They all say that. I am hanging up on you now.’ And he calls back. I answer with, ‘Didn’t they teach you anything?’ The number is now blocked. I will be closed tomorrow, when he plans to prowl up and down my street.

Maybe it’s really my counselor, providing another opportunity to manage anger.

Are they trying to get you to sign up for a credit card?

One thing having been homeless for so long is no one ever calls to try that with me.

Potentially sad news in the “We’re not sure if we want to travel to the USA” column:

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:34:22am

re: #426 Belafon

I wish they were doing it sooner. That gives the administration too much time.

Assuming that we make it to August, there will be an anti-fascist rally in DC led by the juggalos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:34:38am

Jim is having fun with a troll:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:34:47am

re: #441 Unshaken Defiance

I saw this story and felt a major rant coming on. Instead took a deep breath and Paged. Best way to mess with Trump is hold him accountable for the screwups and tragedies he causes, minute to minute. littlegreenfootballs.com

This story has not been verified.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:36:51am

re: #443 Interesting Times

Unless he started shooting Republicans, what exactly was he going to do. The majority of the public said to confirm Garland, but it didn’t matter to McConnell. The majority of the public isn’t voting, though.

Republicans aren’t afraid of voters, they’re afraid of Republican voters, because they vote.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:36:54am

Now here is some FAKE NEWS to make your day

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:36:57am
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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:37:21am

Oh hai, I found an optimistic thread to counter the gloom (and it’s filled with real-life examples of differences made):

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:38:26am

Snopes just verified it. Gorsuch quoted Kissinger in that yearbook. With one caveat:

Although images are real, determining Gorsuch’s intention in offering this quote back then is a matter of speculation. It should be noted that Gorsuch founded a school newspaper called The Fed at Columbia University, which frequently published satirical content.

A conservative-leaning satirical paper? 🤔
snopes.com

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:39:09am

re: #445 Anymouse

Are they trying to get you to sign up for a credit card?

One thing having been homeless for so long is no one ever calls to try that with me.
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They want me to accept credit and debit cards as payment in my store. If I could do debit cards only, I would, but nobody offers that because they can’t make as much money on those. When I was closed for six months, I was charged for processing no payments. They would not refund it when I told them why I was closed. They said, ‘You should have told us at the time.’ The coma was not an acceptable excuse.

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Bass Reeves  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:39:38am

Hey Umm,

When will it be okay to freak the hell out? Asking for a friend. I understand trying to maintain a positive outlook, but what the hell else do we need to happen before liberals stop treating the GOP and relations like rational actors? The most powerful advisor to the alleged leader of the free world wants to burn it all down, we’ve started banning muslims and cracking down dissent in government agencies which are headed by people that want to destroy said agencies. A *lizard* said we could live with Sessions fucking up civil rights for a couple of generations.

Have you guys understood that it is possible that we were just wrong? I admitted I was wrong in my faith in the basic reasoning skills of Americans, but this place has mocked and ridiculed: Trump, Nazis, the Bundys (and militia movements), the GOP, Rage Furby, Deadbart, Dim Jim, and a host of other things *that now control the machinery that underpins the fucking world*.

How about less mocking and trying to get under their skin, and more punching Nazis in the face and engagement with your shitty white neighbors and coworkers? Crumple their worldview, and if that doesn’t work, punch them some more.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:39:47am

re: #437 wrenchwench

Those credit card processing sales people are getting persistent. I told him, in no uncertain terms, why I was so pissed at his industry that I am surprised my number does not appear on a flashing red ‘Do Not Call’ list in the office of every processor in the country, and he starts in on the ‘Oh, we’re not the processor, we’re the ones behind the processor…’ and I said, ‘They all say that. I am hanging up on you now.’ And he calls back. I answer with, ‘Didn’t they teach you anything?’ The number is now blocked. I will be closed tomorrow, when he plans to prowl up and down my street.

Maybe it’s really my counselor, providing another opportunity to manage anger.

Do what I do…say “Oh, you want to sell me something! Thank god, I thought you were another bill collector!”

Ok, I didn’t come up with that but I have used it.

Just like when someone from “Microsoft” calls me, I waste as much of their time as I can. “Who are you? Oh, ok. What do you want me to do? Oh, ok. How do you do that again? Oh, ok. I got it wrong, what am I supposed to type in there? Oh, ok.”

My favorite was when the guy told me to bring up the Run box and type in something like Win32. I asked What? (blink, blink) He says blank it and put in Win32. So I told him Ok (blink, blink) and then told him it didn’t work. He asked what I typed in and I told him (blink, blink) “blankitwin32”. We did that five times…then he said EMPTY it, so then I went to (blink, blink) “emptyitwin32” at which point he finally caught on. He laughed before I hung up on him.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:42:18am

re: #454 wrenchwench

They want me to accept credit and debit cards as payment in my store. If I could do debit cards only, I would, but nobody offers that because they can’t make as much money on those. When I was closed for six months, I was charged for processing no payments. They would not refund it when I told them why I was closed. They said, ‘You should have told us at the time.’ The coma was not an acceptable excuse.

Coma? Well, apparently you needed to borrow Obama’s Magic Ni-CLANG Time Machine to go back before that happened so you could call them and schedule a good time for a coma.

Credit Card company? Would Friday after next be okay with you? What time is good for you?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:42:30am
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:44:12am

re: #454 wrenchwench

They want me to accept credit and debit cards as payment in my store. If I could do debit cards only, I would, but nobody offers that because they can’t make as much money on those. When I was closed for six months, I was charged for processing no payments. They would not refund it when I told them why I was closed. They said, ‘You should have told us at the time.’ The coma was not an acceptable excuse.

I did not get what you were referring to. My comment above was obviously for end users.

I am so sorry for what you had to and are dealing with. I would give them a big Fuck You, too.

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Henny Penny  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:45:04am

re: #411 Myron Falwell

It’s increasingly looking like the only denouement — outside of a military coup d’etat — is through nuclear annihilation.

The American experiment was nice while it lasted.

As I learned at Alcoholics Anonymous, this too, shall pass.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:45:49am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:46:32am

re: #455 Bass Reeves

You mean protesting, donating to various causes like the SPLC and ACLU, joining the local Democratic groups, signing up to run for office, and calling your representatives isn’t enough?

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:48:48am

re: #455 Bass Reeves

Hey Umm,

When will it be okay to freak the hell out? Asking for a friend. I understand trying to maintain a positive outlook, but what the hell else do we need to happen before liberals stop treating the GOP and relations like rational actors? The most powerful advisor to the alleged leader of the free world wants to burn it all down, we’ve started banning muslims and cracking down dissent in government agencies which are headed by people that want to destroy said agencies. A *lizard* said we could live with Sessions fucking up civil rights for a couple of generations.

Have you guys understood that it is possible that we were just wrong? I admitted I was wrong in my faith in the basic reasoning skills of Americans, but this place has mocked and ridiculed: Trump, Nazis, the Bundys (and militia movements), the GOP, Rage Furby, Deadbart, Dim Jim, and a host of other things *that now control the machinery that underpins the fucking world*.

How about less mocking and trying to get under their skin, and more punching Nazis in the face and engagement with your shitty white neighbors and coworkers? Crumple their worldview, and if that doesn’t work, punch them some more.

The SPLC says there are Nazis in my town, but I still think punching is the wrong idea. I DO think it might be time to freak the hell out, but I am not yet convinced that the solution is not in the Constitution. But punching is not. It would be easy in this town, to pick the wrong person to hit. Plus I’m pretty sure that if I knew the right one, he would be bigger than me, and not traveling alone.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:48:51am

re: #456 MsJ

Do what I do…say “Oh, you want to sell me something! Thank god, I thought you were another bill collector!”

Ok, I didn’t come up with that but I have used it.

I have a canned air horn next to my telephone for running off turkey vultures when they try to roost in my elm tree. I don’t know how many people I’ve permanently deafened with it on the phone … can’t be more than a dozen. /s

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:49:21am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

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Please proceed, Senator.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:49:39am

re: #434 Anymouse

Yup. Liberal coastal elite (me) living on the Inland Coast (the Nebraska Sandhills) in a village miles from nowhere, with a high school education.

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Remember that Fox reported on the Women’s marches as a totally coastal phenomenon…

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:51:42am

re: #459 MsJ

I did not get what you were referring to. My comment above was obviously for end users.

I am so sorry for what you had to and are dealing with. I would give them a big Fuck You, too.

Your comment seemed to apply to my situation. Close enough! Thanks for the sympathy.

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Henny Penny  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:51:49am

re: #455 Bass Reeves

How about less mocking and trying to get under their skin, and more punching Nazis in the face and engagement with your shitty white neighbors and coworkers? Crumple their worldview, and if that doesn’t work, punch them some more.

Yes, more of this (if you want to continue to be the minority party).

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:52:39am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Well, no sense moving multiple times in a year if it can’t be helped (assumes impeachment). /not sarc

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:53:16am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jim is having fun with a troll:

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I briefly got into it with some rando on FB yesterday who was saying the same thing -

‘A coup is impossible in the US due to the Second Amendment! the citizenry has more firepower than the government!’

I asked him where he kept his APCs, tanks and helicopter gunships, and he came back with a breakdown of how many citizens are deer hunters. I wished him well on his first and last engagement with a military tasked with putting down an insurrection.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:53:33am
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while(1) worries++;  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:55:50am

re: #443 Interesting Times

There’s a person I know who I think reflects far too many “moderate” voters - he hated what the GOP did, but places more blame on the Dems for not standing up to them when it mattered. His most recent exact words on this subject were “Why didn’t Obama fight harder for Merrick Garland?”

I must confess I kind of feel the same way :/ He was far too nice and deferential to people who turned out to be monsters.

Maybe because Obama couldn’t count on the “moderate” voters to hold the GOP responsible?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:56:08am

re: #471 lawhawk

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Republicans love to use the fact their party was once sane and the Democrats were once bigoted dicks as a way of trying to shut people up. Honestly, it’s irrelevant. The Republican Party has honestly been on a downard slope ever since Abe died with the exceptions of TR and Eisenhower’s presidency.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:57:38am

re: #474 HappyWarrior

Republicans love to use the fact their party was once sane and the Democrats were once bigoted dicks as a way of trying to shut people up. Honestly, it’s irrelevant. The Republican Party has honestly been on a downard slope ever since Abe died with the exceptions of TR and Eisenhower’s presidency.

If you accept their “KKK Democrats just wanna keep blacks on the plantation” argument , then you can co-opt any sort of black leader.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:57:39am

re: #470 makeitstop

Ah, the Chairborne Rangers and Barcalounger Battalion.

Joe - Hey, let’s get our hunting rifles out and stop the government.
Bob - sure, I’ve got 3,000 rounds and even a 50 cal in my bunker. Help me get them?

/cue bunker on Military base 500 miles away.
Pilot: UAV has targets in sight. Weapons are free.
Commander: You may fire when ready
Pilot: UAV fire - on the way.

Joe - you hear something?
Bob? Did I leave the washing machine on?
*poof*

Yeah, these guys have no clue. If the government wants to go and deprive you of your life, there’s not much you can do. You might get off a few shots, but be sure that superior firepower belongs in the hands of the government.

Tanks.

You’re welcome.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:57:48am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

I’d love a Dem senator to introduce legislation that says tax payers won’t foot the bill for this bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:59:58am

re: #477 Mike Lamb

I’d love a Dem senator to introduce legislation that says tax payers won’t foot the bill for this bullshit.

Really. It’s such a pain in the ass to New Yorkers. Washington D.C is specifically equipped with security for the very purpose of protecting the First Family. I understand Melania is probably concerned for her son but you know what, maybe her dipshit husband shouldn’t have ran for the Presidency. I don’t like cold weather hence why I’ve never seriously applied for any jobs too North.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:00:25am

re: #443 Interesting Times

There’s a person I know who I think reflects far too many “moderate” voters - he hated what the GOP did, but places more blame on the Dems for not standing up to them when it mattered. His most recent exact words on this subject were “Why didn’t Obama fight harder for Merrick Garland?”

I must confess I kind of feel the same way :/ He was far too nice and deferential to people who turned out to be monsters.

Where were all the protesters over the Garland nomination? Maybe if they had shown up then, pressure would have been too much for GOP. I think, we the people, share some of the blame. We let them get away with it.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:00:34am

re: #463 wrenchwench

The SPLC says there are Nazis in my town, but I still think punching is the wrong idea. I DO think it might be time to freak the hell out, but I am not yet convinced that the solution is not in the Constitution. But punching is not. It would be easy in this town, to pick the wrong person to hit. Plus I’m pretty sure that if I knew the right one, he would be bigger than me, and not traveling alone.

I don’t have Nazis but I do have the Christian Identity church up the road.

Both groups explicitly call for genocide. Both groups include me in their groups. The CI people know where I live (due to my articles in the paper as the magic token liberal).

As far as I am concerned, genocide is a valid reason to punch a Nazi, provided I can get the drop on him.

I’d rather explain it to a judge than be carried by six.

There are some really clueless people in the world.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:02:19am

re: #476 lawhawk

Ah, the Chairborne Rangers and Barcalounger Battalion.

Joe - Hey, let’s get our hunting rifles out and stop the government.
Bob - sure, I’ve got 3,000 rounds and even a 50 cal in my bunker. Help me get them?

/cue bunker on Military base 500 miles away.
Pilot: UAV has targets in sight. Weapons are free.
Commander: You may fire when ready
Pilot: UAV fire - on the way.

Joe - you hear something?
Bob? Did I leave the washing machine on?
*poof*

Yeah, these guys have no clue. If the government wants to go and deprive you of your life, there’s not much you can do. You might get off a few shots, but be sure that superior firepower belongs in the hands of the government.

Tanks.

You’re welcome.

Like I’ve said before; the US military can launch a Hellfire missile from a Predator and take out any would-be Johnny Reb fantasist as he’s reading the latest issue of American Rifleman while dropping a deuce.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:02:38am

re: #88 electrotek

Don’t assume that anyone is actually who they say they are:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:02:42am

Not to toot my own horn guys but check my latest page on Campaign Finance Reform. My boss asked me to do a little report on the pros and cons of it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:03:08am

re: #482 CuriousLurker

Don’t assume that anyone is actually who they say they are:

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That’s another Kremlin end game. Setting the left against each other.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:03:50am

re: #480 Anymouse

I don’t have Nazis but I do have the Christian Identity church up the road.

Both groups explicitly call for genocide. Both groups include me in their groups. The CI people know where I live (due to my articles in the paper as the magic token liberal).

As far as I am concerned, genocide is a valid reason to punch a Nazi, provided I can get the drop on him.

I’d rather explain it to a judge than be carried by six.

There are some really clueless people in the world.

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Heh I’d love to see her wield a sword.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:04:50am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

That’s another Kremlin end game. Setting the left Americans against each other.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:06:15am

re: #479 blueraven

Where were all the protesters over the Garland nomination? Maybe if they had shown up then, pressure wold have been too much for GOP. I think, we the people, share some of the blame. We let them get away with it.

Yes, because people just didn’t know (or get, or care) what was at stake -_-

How do we fix that?

There’s a large-enough contingent of so-called “swing” voters who treat politics as entertainment and, instead of getting mad at the bullies, ridicule and lose respect for the victims who appear to just “sit there and take it.” It’s kind of like how John Kerry got screwed by the swiftboaters, not so much because these voters believed the lies, but because they saw Kerry as weak for not responding.

Again, how do we fix that? I daresay reprehensible propagandist Frank Lunz has the best advice:

There’s a simple rule: You say it again, and you say it again, and you say it again, and you say it again, and you say it again, and then again and again and again and again, and about the time that you’re absolutely sick of saying it is about the time that your target audience has heard it for the first time.

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plansbandc  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:06:31am

re: #472 Dr. Matt

He looks really ill in those pics. Mummy like. Damn.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:07:44am

re: #485 HappyWarrior

Heh I’d love to see her wield a sword.

But can she tase him?

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:08:33am

re: #482 CuriousLurker

Don’t assume that anyone is actually who they say they are:

Only trust the check marks on Twitter (and I don’t have one). Don’t trust anyone who says anything about who they actually are on there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:08:53am

HAHAHA Dumbass trolling Jim Wright says he “has a very special set of skills”

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CuriousLurker  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:09:39am

Picking up where I left off earlier, in my #242

The quoted tweet below is to a BBC story from today about a woman whose husband cut her ears off for no apparent reason.

Gah, grocery delivery is here—gotta run.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:10:05am

re: #491 The Vicious Babushka

You’re a guy who brought a gun to a UAV Hellfire fight?

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:10:21am

re: #455 Bass Reeves

When will it be okay to freak out?

Freaking out is rarely a successful strategy. You need to have a strategy to push back against the swill. The USA has a long ugly history of racism (and Nazis). As they say in the Shire: Fight smarter, not harder.

How about less mocking and trying to get under their skin, and more punching Nazis in the face and engagement with your shitty white neighbors and coworkers? Crumple their worldview, and if that doesn’t work, punch them some more.

Mocking is fine for the Internet, and especially for Mr. Trump’s Twitter feed (calling him President Bannon, for example). Mockery is one method throughout history used to punch up at contradictions and lies of those in power.

I live in a whole town of Trump supporters, almost half college-educated. Eight whole people here voted for Hillary Clinton (yet voted to make me vice-mayor). My neighbours are not shitty, they are uninformed or misinformed. As such, I work to educate them. It is a slow process, because it is difficult to get past many years of propaganda, but it can be successful.

I don’t need to “crumple their worldview.” I would rather they take in information, and see that their worldview is lacking. If I can do that, provide the right nugget of information they cannot explain away, they will change their worldview themselves.

A couple years ago, the Scott’s Bluff Democratic Party decided to help out with the local LGBT community to organise the first ever Pride event in the Panhandle. They decided on a picnic open to all, since Scottsbluff is only a town of 14,000.

I was the only local politician to dare show my face at the event. However, the event was YUGE, drawing in people from all over Western Nebraska and SE Wyoming. Got my picture in the paper and everything. /humblebrag

Even with all my evil satanic liberal activism here, the town still reëlected me and elevated my position.

That was also when I came up on the CI church radar.

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:10:45am

re: #489 The Vicious Babushka

But can she tase him?

I’d suggest a cup of hot tea accidentally knocked into his lap, yanno, high up. Oops.

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weave  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:11:10am

Ah…. the butt hurt about the Budweiser Super Bowl ad is already beginning….

Redstate: Budweiser Goes Political With Super Bowl Ad (Video)

For those who want to see the video without clicking to Redstate…

Budweiser 2017 Super Bowl Commercial | “Born The Hard Way”

… and some of the butt hurt…

The timing of the ad is what makes it groan-worthy. After weeks of protests and the bungling of the rollout of the temporary hold on immigration from seven countries, most of us just want to set aside politics and watch a game. But thanks for the socio-political commentary. Now if Lady Gaga can refrain from grandstanding about politics during the halftime show, maybe we can start feel normal again.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:11:21am

Okay, the “Exterminator” stat makes a lot of sense and is all kinds of creepy when you consider the implications… o_O

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:11:26am

re: #486 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s the big game but they have setting the left against one another as a game too.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:11:43am

re: #485 HappyWarrior

Heh I’d love to see her wield a sword.

I chuckled when I saw that, but my second thought was “you know, I may be misremembering international law, but this would probably constitute an act of war, in a very old school sense of the meaning.”

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:12:46am

re: #497 Interesting Times

Refresh comment, the picture was cut off when I first saw it on Twitter. It’s the third-last option I meant (as the picture appears in the tweet on LGF)

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:13:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:13:48am

re: #498 HappyWarrior

That’s the big game but they have setting the left against one another as a game too.

They did a good job during the democratic primaries…

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:14:23am

re: #496 weave

Ah…. the butt hurt about the Budweiser Super Bowl ad is already beginning….

Redstate: Budweiser Goes Political With Super Bowl Ad (Video)

For those who want to see the video without clicking to Redstate…

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… and some of the butt hurt…

White people problems: Why can’t I just ignore politics for a moment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:14:24am

re: #497 Interesting Times

Okay, the last one makes a lot of sense and is all kinds of creepy when you consider the implications… o_O

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That’s too bad about the Catholic priest. For all my faults with the RCC, I still retain a soft spot given my family’s background and my great uncle who was a RCC priest. Don’t know his politics but his baby sister, my Nana was a huge Dem and definitely shaped my ideology.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:14:37am

re: #479 blueraven

Where were all the protesters over the Garland nomination? Maybe if they had shown up then, pressure wold have been too much for GOP. I think, we the people, share some of the blame. We let them get away with it.

At the same time, we take some of our direction from our elected officials, so I completely get the other viewpoint. We are seeing this level of discontent due to Comey, Russia, losing the election but winning the popular vote by a large number and still getting shafted by republicans. As soon as that ban went into effect, people realized that all the bullshit trump promised he was going to do which is the kick in the ass we needed.

Our elected officials - democrats - played nice with Bush and then rolled over for repubs throughout Obama’s presidency. Yes, democracy requires compromise but not solely from one side, which is what was happening.

At some point people stand up. Be it this ban or SocSec, Medicare, Medicaid, or what have you. I will say this; I do not see these protests stopping any time soon.

The point will come, however, when these protests become deadly, because you have the likes of Rudy and that schmuck Clarke from WI dying to bash some liberal heads. And then…either more people come out or they don’t. We will then see if we are, indeed, the land of the brave because it is going to take some balls to go out and protest when the cops (the likely inside the US military) kill us. Me? If the economy tanks, they kill Social Security, etc., I might as well go out in a blaze because sitting on the sidelines starving to death is not going to be my personal option.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:14:50am

re: #502 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did a good job during the democratic primaries…

Yep, that’s what I’m talking about.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:15:16am

re: #476 lawhawk

Yeah, these guys have no clue. If the government wants to go and deprive you of your life, there’s not much you can do. You might get off a few shots, but be sure that superior firepower belongs in the hands of the government.

Tanks.

You’re welcome.

That is precisely my argument against Calexit.

Combat Central: Bridge, targets acquired in downtown Los Angeles and San Francisco
Bridge: You may fire when ready.
Weapons Control: Tomahawk 1 away. Tomahawk 2 away. Tomahawk 3 away … Tomahawk 20 away. Tomahawk 21 away.
Combat Central: Bridge, targets destroyed.
Bridge: Navigation, lay in a course for Portland. The crew deserves liberty after kicking rebel ass.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:15:26am

Anyhow edited my paeg to make it easier to read. It’s a long read so I apologize and I know CFR isn’t a huge issue right now.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:16:47am

re: #496 weave

Ah…. the butt hurt about the Budweiser Super Bowl ad is already beginning….

Redstate: Budweiser Goes Political With Super Bowl Ad (Video)

For those who want to see the video without clicking to Redstate…

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Video

… and some of the butt hurt…

I can’t wait for the Republican boycott of Budweiser… not that it’d make me start drinking that swill as anything other than a last resort, but just because they still can’t seem to recognize that, for most of them, their grandparents or great-grandparents were on the receiving side of what they’re doing now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:17:15am

re: #503 Belafon

White people problems: Why can’t I just ignore politics for a moment.

Here they are presenting a film that celebrates hard-working white people and conservatives get upset because it reminds them that not all immigrants were Northern Europeans.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:17:15am

re: #496 weave

It’s true, RedState spent 2009-2017 wanting to set fire to the whole joint, but now that we have unified GOP control, can we all please just settle down and enjoy our teevee?

/

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:17:54am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

Not to toot my own horn guys but check my latest page on Campaign Finance Reform. My boss asked me to do a little report on the pros and cons of it.

Post a linky when you’re tooting your own horn. Makes it easier.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:18:03am

re: #496 weave

Ah…. the butt hurt about the Budweiser Super Bowl ad is already beginning….

Redstate: Budweiser Goes Political With Super Bowl Ad (Video)

For those who want to see the video without clicking to Redstate…

[Embedded content]

Video

… and some of the butt hurt…

I don’t like their beer but that’s a good ad. I’m German too and I think I have distant relations that had a brewery too in Pittsburgh but haven’t verified my family’s connection them yet.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:18:55am

re: #509 KGxvi

I can’t wait for the Republican boycott of Budweiser… not that it’d make me start drinking that swill as anything other than a last resort, but just because they still can’t seem to recognize that, for most of them, their grandparents or great-grandparents were on the receiving side of what they’re doing now.

That’s exactly why I’m sympathetic. I know that my great grandparents and others were on the receiving in of nativist abuse.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:19:24am

re: #512 MsJ

Post a linky when you’re tooting your own horn. Makes it easier.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Yes, thanks. D’oh. I don’t do it that often.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:19:56am

re: #513 HappyWarrior

I don’t like their beer but that’s a good ad. I’m German too and I think I have distant relations that had a brewery too in Pittsburgh but haven’t verified my family’s connection them yet.

And point out that Budweis, or Budejovice, is now located in the Czech Republic…

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:21:35am

re: #497 Interesting Times

Okay, the third-last one makes a lot of sense and is all kinds of creepy when you consider the implications… o_O

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Well, there’s all those urologists that lean Republican … That might explain Mr. Trump.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:21:42am

re: #509 KGxvi

Budweiser boycott?

Oh that’d be hilarious.

Only because to boycott Budweiser would mean boycotting something like …

all of these major brands, to say nothing of the lines that each produces.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:22:10am

re: #516 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And point out that Budweis, or Budejovice, is now located in the Czech Republic…

Yep.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:22:28am
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:23:00am

re: #512 MsJ

Post a linky when you’re tooting your own horn. Makes it easier.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Also helps if you put some kind of picture up there. It makes tweeting it more attractive.

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weave  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:23:02am

Look at the selective editing in this “Rasmussen Report” video — I wonder if they show this shit before asking “Do you favor the ban?”

launch.newsinc.com

All those scary news clips of terror attacks and not a single one of them would have been stopped by this ban. Jesus, no wonder people are so ill-informed out there…. :-(

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:23:09am

re: #520 Interesting Times

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Exactly.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:23:11am

re: #507 Anymouse

Basically, you have two options, and they both involve you dying immediately in a nuclear holocaust.

Either stay and perish as the US brazenly wages a world war for global domination (moreso because of widespread fallout and retaliatory attacks by the wounded nations) or openly secede, stand your ground, and perish that way, albeit quick and rather painlessly.

Hobson’s Choice in undistilled form.

It’s also what the Evangelicals have to be dreaming about, because they get to see their iteration of Jesus.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:24:24am

re: #516 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And point out that Budweis, or Budejovice, is now located in the Czech Republic…

And many beer-lover sites note that Budweiser seems to be a rip off of the original Czech Budvar brand (but ripped off poorly)

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:24:28am

re: #515 HappyWarrior

Yes, thanks. D’oh. I don’t do it that often.

If you take time to write something like that (well done, btw), pimp the shit out of it! Because some folks don’t normally read Pages. I am pretty religious about reading them at least every other day (and I catch up on all the ones since the last time I read them) but when you make that effort, show it off!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:25:02am

re: #521 MsJ

Also helps if you put some kind of picture up there. It makes tweeting it more attractive.

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Yeah good thinking. I like to think I was fair. I do think that Professor McGinnis is wrong to suggest that the left is only doing it because of electoral defeat though. I just don’t like the thought that money = speech because it allows us to create what Professor Smithhas described where less than 200 households who are overwhelmingly headed by white males contribute well over half the political donations in a nation of a 120 million households.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:25:47am

re: #526 MsJ

If you take time to write something like that (well done, btw), pimp the shit out of it! Because some folks don’t normally read Pages. I am pretty religious about reading them at least every other day (and I catch up on all the ones since the last time I read them) but when you make that effort, show it off!

I may post more in the months to come. I’ve been finding my voice again. I’m posting my opinion more on FB too.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:26:19am

re: #527 HappyWarrior

Yeah good thinking. I like to think I was fair. I do think that Professor McGinnis is wrong to suggest that the left is only doing it because of electoral defeat though. I just don’t like the thought that money = speech because it allows us to create what Professor Smithhas described where less than 200 households who are overwhelmingly headed by white males contribute well over half the political donations in a nation of a 120 million households.

Here are some images. You can still put it up there.

google.ca

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:27:06am

re: #529 MsJ

Here are some images. You can still put it up there.

google.ca

found a ogod one.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:27:47am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

I may post more in the months to come. I’ve been finding my voice again. I’m posting my opinion more on FB too.

Good. You have a great voice. You are logical and you don’t go off crazily (which I sometimes do).

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:28:50am

In today’s episode of Who You Gonna Believe:

President Trump has canceled a planned trip to deliver an economic speech in Milwaukee on Thursday, an aide said.

A White House spokeswoman confirmed that the trip was off, but said the change in plans was related to Trump’s schedule. She disputed that it was at the request of Harley-Davidson.

“It definitely had nothing to do with protests,” she said.

I’m sure it had nothing to do with protests or Harley-Davidson saying “yeah, nah, bruh, we good.”

533
plansbandc  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:29:05am

I don’t see combover being at all strategic about California seceding. I see him launching a tactical nuke right in the middle of the state. I absolutely believe he is unstable enough to do it.

I genuinely hope California and other states aren’t foolish enough to try seceding. But when combover starts the huge deportations and his people go in to crush the pot economy, who knows?

534
HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:30:25am

re: #531 MsJ

Good. You have a great voice. You are logical and you don’t go off crazily (which I sometimes do).

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:30:27am

We need some music in here.

Stevie was talking about a different president, but it still applies.

Stevie Wonder - You Haven’t Done Nothin’

536
allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:31:05am

re: #503 Belafon

White people problems: Why can’t I just ignore politics for a moment.

I don’t see any politics in that ad. I see the story of the company founder.

537
lawhawk  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:31:14am

Hilarious and noxious.

These guys are busy bitching about fabricating sources and news.

Who retweets? None other than masters of fabricating news: Hoft and Cernovich and Prison Planet.

538
Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:32:58am

re: #533 plansbandc

I don’t see combover being at all strategic about California seceding. I see him launching a tactical nuke right in the middle of the state. I absolutely believe he is unstable enough to do it.

I genuinely hope California and other states aren’t foolish enough to try seceding. But when combover starts the huge deportations and his people go in to crush the pot economy, who knows?

Putin would want it. Hell he’s bankrolling one of the secessionist groups (the other isn’t AFAIK). A nuclear strike would cause the whole country to implode from within, and Putin can assert himself as THE world power.

What better way to kill the United States outright than through such a method?

539
HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:33:04am

re: #536 allegro

I don’t see any politics in that ad. I see the story of the company founder.

They see that as politics. I’m jealous of the Busches though. I definitely don’t know enough about my famliy’s story to make an ad about it. It’s a great story, it’s a great American story at that I just use my imagination though.

540
Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:33:41am

re: #524 Myron Falwell

Basically, you have two options, and they both involve you dying immediately in a nuclear holocaust.

Either stay and perish as the US brazenly wages a world war for global domination (moreso because of widespread fallout and retaliatory attacks by the wounded nations) or openly secede, stand your ground, and perish that way, albeit quick and rather painlessly.

Hobson’s Choice in undistilled form.

It’s also what the Evangelicals have to be dreaming about, because they get to see their iteration of Jesus.

The majority of cruise missiles on Navy vessels are conventional. (When I was stationed aboard USS San Jacinto, a cruiser, I would set up my hammered dulcimer on top of a cruise missile hatch at the bow and play while at sea.

There wouldn’t be a nuclear holocaust in an attack on California. Conventional weapons would do quite nicely to destroy that fifth largest economy in the world.

Combat Control: Are you over your targets in the Silicone Valley yet?
Carrier Air Wing Commander: Lead aircraft now over targets.
Operations: Radar shows no sign of the California Air Force.
Combat: Bridge, Air Wing reports it is in position to release weapons.
Bridge: Commence attack.

(Bombs fall on tech companies, industrial plants, airfields, freeways)

CAW Commander: We blasted those rebel asses back to the XVIII Century. Request vector to landing pattern.

You don’t think conservative wingnuts would not just LOVE to go after the hated hippie liebrul land of California?

California cannot defend itself. It has no Air Force, no Navy, no Army. Good luck.

We hang together, or we will surely hang separately.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:34:08am

re: #509 KGxvi

I can’t wait for the Republican boycott of Budweiser… not that it’d make me start drinking that swill as anything other than a last resort, but just because they still can’t seem to recognize that, for most of them, their grandparents or great-grandparents were on the receiving side of what they’re doing now.

Bud gives me a headache every time.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:35:04am

re: #533 plansbandc

I don’t see combover being at all strategic about California seceding. I see him launching a tactical nuke right in the middle of the state. I absolutely believe he is unstable enough to do it.

I genuinely hope California and other states aren’t foolish enough to try seceding. But when combover starts the huge deportations and his people go in to crush the pot economy, who knows?

I can only see two ways of secession happening:

The first, which is highly unlikely and possibly unconstitutional, would be Congress granting a state the right to leave. I believe there’s Supreme Court precedent that says there’s no inherent right to leave the Union.

The second would be after a constitutional convention was called and a state had to ratify a new constitution. I could see a scenario in which there’s enough agreement that the current system doesn’t work and we need to replace it, where some states decide to make the choices in ratification votes something like: stay in the old system; join the new system; go our own way. I don’t think a constitutional convention is going to happen - there has never really been a credible threat of one being called, and if it did start to arise, the Congressional GOP would impeach Trump as fast as possible to shut down the talk.

543
MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:35:15am

re: #534 HappyWarrior

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:36:00am

re: #482 CuriousLurker

Don’t assume that anyone is actually who they say they are:

Good point. It’s just that from prior experience that ex-Muslims who pander to white supremacists do unfortunately exist and continue to receive a major audience because of it.

545
Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:36:49am

re: #540 Anymouse

Bannon and Trump are so unstable that lobbing tactical nukes at San Francisco and Los Angeles to punish them is very plausible.

546
MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:38:54am

re: #542 KGxvi

I don’t think a constitutional convention is going to happen - there has never really been a credible threat of one being called, and if it did start to arise, the Congressional GOP would impeach Trump as fast as possible to shut down the talk.

Methinks you give republicans far more credit than you should.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:39:54am

re: #545 Myron Falwell

Bannon and Trump are so unstable that lobbing tactical nukes at San Francisco and Los Angeles to punish them is very plausible.

While the possibility exists (gaaa. who’d have thought of that even under any other Republican), I don’t see it.

For one thing, the fallout would be all over our precious red states here.

For another, why kill you outright when they can make you starve and suffer and die? They wouldn’t want to kill California, they would want to cripple it.

And, it’s more fun to send in occupational forces. Payback for Reconstruction.

548
KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:41:52am

re: #546 MsJ

Methinks you give republicans far more credit than you should.

Congressional Republicans want to hold onto power. A constitutional convention and a new system that could drastically alter and/or limit their power would be one of those instances where self-preservation would lead them to making the right decision (even if for the wrong reasons).

549
garzooma  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:42:10am

re: #536 allegro

I don’t see any politics in that ad. I see the story of the company founder.

There have been 51 Super Bowls. Busch runs this ad now. You’ll have to agree that it’s one hell of a coincidence.

It’s like the Fox statement on the ban. It’s a completely anodyne “we love immigrants” statement, but the fact that they felt a need to say it right now is not something you can get around.

550
plansbandc  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:42:30am

Tantrum nuke strike. Occupational forces in anti combover states.

It’s remarkable that these things are actually on the table.

551
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:42:52am

re: #545 Myron Falwell

Bannon and Trump are so unstable that lobbing tactical nukes at San Francisco and Los Angeles to punish them is very plausible.

It’s like with PLL gone, someone else felt the need to step up to the ledge of hyperbole.

I have to say, as a CA resident, I’ve heard very little about Calexit in my portion of the state. And it’s not like I live in the middle of nowhere, either. Sure, it’s going to be on the ballot. With EVERYTHING ELSE that ends up on the fucking ballot. Do you know how easy it is to get crap on the ballot? There were 18 ballot measures in November. For this reason, no gets a built in advantage.

I’m not going to be freaking out about this and since I’m someone who would be in the fallout zone, I strongly recommend you don’t either.

552
Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:43:06am

re: #532 KGxvi

In today’s episode of Who You Gonna Believe:

I’m sure it had nothing to do with protests or Harley-Davidson saying “yeah, nah, bruh, we good.”

Considering Harley first said it was because of protests, I’m going to go with them.

553
KGxvi  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:43:27am

He’s basically writing the briefs for the ACLU (and states) 140 characters at a time. I feel sorry for the attorneys in the DOJ that have to try and defend this stuff because he’s out there saying stupid shit that makes their jobs so much harder.

554
Arkansawyer  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:46:37am

re: #553 KGxvi

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He’s basically writing the briefs for the ACLU (and states) 140 characters at a time. I feel sorry for the attorneys in the DOJ that have to try and defend this stuff because he’s out there saying stupid shit that makes their jobs so much harder.

You know how people sent the Bundy bunch dildos? I think people need to flood 1600 Penn with pacifiers to calm that crying baby.

555
Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:47:12am

re: #553 KGxvi

He’s basically writing the briefs for the ACLU (and states) 140 characters at a time. I feel sorry for the attorneys in the DOJ that have to try and defend this stuff because he’s out there saying stupid shit that makes their jobs so much harder.

DOJ lawyer: (Hands the judge a list of Trump tweets) I would like to submit to the court this list of comments by the president. If you allow it, your honor, I would like to read them allowed. (Reads them) Now I would like to present my defense: (sits down).

556
makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:48:36am

re: #554 Arkansawyer

You know how people sent the Bundy bunch dildos? I think people need to flood 1600 Penn with pacifiers to calm that crying baby.

See, now I could see that having an effect - it would piss him off no end.

Downside - return addresses…

557
Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:49:21am

re: #549 garzooma

There have been 51 Super Bowls. Busch runs this ad now. You’ll have to agree that it’s one hell of a coincidence.

It’s like the Fox statement on the ban. It’s a completely anodyne “we love immigrants” statement, but the fact that they felt a need to say it right now is not something you can get around.

Remember the butthurt over the Cheerios advert that had a mixed-race family in it, and it wasn’t connected to any particular event at all?

They will be butthurt because they must be the victims. Being the victim gives them the cover for complaining they are the ones being discriminated against by liberals, having agendas crammed down their throats like bad gay porn, &c. (They also have projection problems on that last item.)

Budweiser putting up the advert doesn’t matter. All the Freeze Peach and free-market geniuses that make up the base sure are against both when a company makes a free-market decision different than their ideas.

FOX News Channel blew up over Starbucks extending college benefits to certain workers, calling it socialism. (Funny, I thought Starbucks did it to attract loyal employees and for positive PR, but what do I know as a socialist? I need FOX to tell me a calculated corporate plan to increase business is socialism?)

Those open to ideas can still be shown they are wrong (gently): A company extending benefits or a company holding up a standard they support all communities is good for profits. Those that can be reached will eventually get it.

Insult their intelligence because they have come to the wrong conclusion, and you will lose them. Ignore the butthurt wingnuts over the adverts and concentrate on those that can still think for themselves.

558
allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:51:19am

re: #556 makeitstop

See, now I could see that having an effect - it would piss him off no end.

Downside - return addresses…

You can put anything on a return address. PO doesn’t verify. Just plop the pacifier into an envelope and drop it in any mailbox.

559
Arkansawyer  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:52:40am

re: #558 allegro

You can put anything on a return address. PO doesn’t verify. Just plop the pacifier into an envelope and drop it in any mailbox.

Or people could start leaving piles of them in front of the Whitehouse & Trump properties.

560
sagehen  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:53:26am

re: #430 Anymouse

And they popcorn, especially baby ones.

Nebraska cities signed up for the Scientists March on Washington so far:

Omaha (largest city)
Lincoln (state capital)
Broadwater (population 124). We’ll set up our protest in the village park, then march on Village Hall (one block).

That’s a small enough village you can serve refreshments.

Suggestion: apples, each of which has inscribed on it in chocolate “9.8m/s2”

561
Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:54:43am

re: #551 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s like with PLL gone, someone else felt the need to step up to the ledge of hyperbole.

I have to say, as a CA resident, I’ve heard very little about Calexit in my portion of the state. And it’s not like I live in the middle of nowhere, either. Sure, it’s going to be on the ballot. With EVERYTHING ELSE that ends up on the fucking ballot. Do you know how easy it is to get crap on the ballot? There were 18 ballot measures in November. For this reason, no gets a built in advantage.

I’m not going to be freaking out about this and since I’m someone who would be in the fallout zone, I strongly recommend you don’t either.

Well, I don’t think anyone would lob nukes at California.

That said:

Very serious persons told us that there was no way Trump would survive the primaries against Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz.
Very serious persons said that Trump could not possibly keep up the rage machine of his campaign through the elections.
Very serious persons told us there was no way Trump could beat Clinton.
Very serious persons told us that the GOP would keep him under control, that his rhetoric about banning Muslims and rounding up Mexicans was just bluster to get votes.
Very serious persons told us that a sane (if conservative) cabinet would keep him in check - then he added Rage Furby to his staff to help him pick people, weaponised the Press Office with Brietbart and SMOTI and Alex Freakin’ Jones.

Yeah, I’m going to conclude that he is a clear and present danger not just to progressive government programmes, but life in the USA.

562
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:56:21am

re: #561 Anymouse

I’m still going to worry more about car accidents when it comes to considering how family members might die unexpectedly.

563
Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:59:56am

re: #542 KGxvi

I can only see two ways of secession happening:

The first, which is highly unlikely and possibly unconstitutional, would be Congress granting a state the right to leave. I believe there’s Supreme Court precedent that says there’s no inherent right to leave the Union….

There is Union artillery precededent that says there is no inherent right to leave the Union.

This shit was dumb when the RWNJs said it, and it’s no smarter on LGF. I’m chalking it up to shock, but it’s time to STFU and start doing the million small things that are part of the rebuilding.

564
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:02:10am

re: #489 The Vicious Babushka

But can she tase him?

RELEASE THE CORGIS!!!!!!!

565
Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:02:42am

re: #560 sagehen

That’s a small enough village you can serve refreshments.

Suggestion: apples, each of which has inscribed on it in chocolate “9.8m/s2”

We could also serve pi.

Considering the Minnesota librarian that had the huge turnout in a village like mine, we might have to prepare for an overwhelming response. Only ones out here signed up on the left side of the state, might wind up with folk from Scottsbluff and Alliance and Chadron here.

My wife put on a lecture (featuring her brother) on the geology of the Sandhills and how they were formed at the Public Library.

She was expecting maybe a dozen or so people from around here - I sabotaged her with a release to the NPR station in Alliance and about sixty people showed up.

A science march in Broadwater would certainly get the attention of the NPR station in Alliance and the state college in Chadron. Could be big. Never know.

566
Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:03:05am

re: #564 Backwoods_Sleuth

RELEASE THE CORGIS!!!!!!!

Maybe Donald Jr and Eric will shoot a swan.

567
Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:05:23am

re: #566 Decatur Deb

Maybe Donald Jr and Eric will shoot a swan.

Maybe they’ll take a swan (dive).

568
wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:05:53am

Just sent another guy to the ATM because all he had was plastic. We’ll see whether this one comes back.

569
Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:08:04am

re: #561 Anymouse

It’s that level of escalation that is both terrifying and deflating.

570
The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:08:08am

re: #510 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Here they are presenting a film that celebrates hard-working white people and conservatives get upset because it reminds them that not all immigrants were Northern Europeans.

The Budweiser immigrants were German. Yesterday I saw a butthurt Deplorable grumbling about “military age young men scampering to America instead of fighting for their homeland” just before I blocked it.

Forced conscription for the Tsar’s or the Kaiser’s or the Sultan’s army motivated MANY MANY immigrants in the 19th century including Von Clownstick’s grandfather.

571
Jebediah, RBG  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:08:38am

re: #87 allegro

Well said. That should be sent to every Congressional Democrat - especially the ones voting for Numpty Dumpty’s nominees.

572
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:14:30am

re: #525 Anymouse

And many beer-lover sites note that Budweiser seems to be a rip off of the original Czech Budvar brand (but ripped off poorly)

I have had the original Czech Budweiser, and there is no comparison.

573
Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:19:10am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

No fucking kidding? What a surprise.

Probably doesn’t want to leave Barron’s father behind.

574
wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:36:31am

re: #568 wrenchwench

Just sent another guy to the ATM because all he had was plastic. We’ll see whether this one comes back.

He came back! $8.00 sale. That wouldn’t have qualified for a credit card even when I was taking them. I had a $20 minimum before it was ‘legal’ to have a minimum.

Then he showed me his bike with his dog in the trailer, and told me he was on a mobility scooter until a year ago (the guy, not the dog.) He has MS and, ‘decided to take his life back’ and now rides a bike for exercise and errands, which include indulging in photography.


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