Trump Horror, Day 14: Creationist Religious Fanatic to Head Education Dept., Trump Will Kill Dodd-Frank Rules

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The destruction of the United States is accelerating again. A religious fanatic who has donated millions to creationist groups, and knows nothing about education, is about to become the Secretary of Education.

And Donald Trump is preparing to bring back the financial crisis by rolling back the Dodd-Frank regulations and giving his rapacious predatory business cronies free rein to do as they will.

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Meanwhile, Trump had absolutely nothing to say about the horrific attack by one of his superfans on a mosque in Quebec City, but he did have time to tweet this, about a knife attack by one person at the Louvre in Paris, in which no one was killed:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:45:50am

Two weeks.

We are only two weeks into this.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:49:00am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Pace yourself? He certainly isn’t.

He wants to see if he can reach record low favorabilities.

Never mind that the polling has not stopped him. The GOP hasn’t stopped him. Checks and balances aren’t stopping him, and he’s still issuing EOs at a rate never before seen in the nation. Governance by diktat.

And they’re all the best people working for him. No one knows what anyone else is doing, why they’re doing it, and are lying their asses off while doing it (see Spicer and Conway).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:49:22am
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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:49:49am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Two weeks.

We are only two weeks into this.

This will seem like a vacation once Trump gets all of his lunatics in place.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:50:42am

Just give him a chance, they said.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:52:17am

I agree with her. It is a dangerous world now that the GOP is in total control of the country. These people are intent on burning the country to the ground.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:52:44am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:53:05am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep. Everyone should read the ABC News article. On my twitter feed. Instead of creating memes & phony outrage. It’s a dangerous world.

Look who’s talking

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jaunte  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:54:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:55:17am
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Kragar  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:55:28am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:55:41am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:57:25am

re: #11 Kragar

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“Why, I feel like deregulating regulations on clean water so my wealthy contributors can enrich themselves!”

“I feel like making access to deadly weapons easier because the 2nd amendment is absolute with no restrictions to be held on it.”

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jaunte  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:57:50am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:58:26am

“I feel like going to a place where I know a lot of people are hostile to my views and being nasty to them and sicking those that follow me on Twitter and Facebook on private citizens when I’m tops on the NYT best seller list!”

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 10:59:21am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:00:02am

re: #9 jaunte

Critics say Trump is looting the country to enrich his friends.

Trump counters that he’s looting the country to enrich his friends.

See, both sides.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:00:25am

re: #16 lawhawk

I am reasonably certain there are a few confederate flags in the White House right now.

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jaunte  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:00:44am
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:00:59am
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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:01:28am
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There’s a reason that calls to foreign leaders are taped. That Trump turned off the recorder during the Putin call was more than just a break of protocol.

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jaunte  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:01:53am

“Returning control to the American people” = you are now free to swim with the sharks.

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Tarkloon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:02:53am

Charles:

preparing to being back

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:04:15am

re: #20 Jebediah, RBG

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Kellyanne, you literally said there was a massacre caused by refugees in Bowling Green. It’s not fake outrage. You fucking lied. And those Al Queda members that came to this country didn’t come as terrorists. Oh and most of them are from countries NOT on your boss’s ban list and ones where he hmmmm has investments and business interests in. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence to a pathetic hack like you though who only cares about serving Trump.

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Belafon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:04:20am

re: #21 lawhawk

There’s a reason that calls to foreign leaders are taped. That Trump turned off the recorder during the Putin call was more than just a break of protocol.

If it’s illegal to turn the recorder off, then Democrats need to start screaming about this, and bring it up every moment Republicans want to do something.

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Kragar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:04:37am
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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:04:44am

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Because believing in karma means that I am now “condoning riots and the destruction of private property”. Bitch please, ever thought about the consequences his dumbass would have thought about before going to speak at a university that would be hostile towards him?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:07:07am

The Buddhist Churches of America has issued a statement regarding Trump’s unconstitutional - and un-American - Executive Order.

Statement on the Executive Order

The Executive Order signed by President Trump on January 27, 2017 has been causing serious concerns and suffering for many people, especially Muslims and immigrants. It has brought back memories of the unlawful mass incarceration of Japanese Americans during World War II.

Even if the intent of the Executive Order is to protect our citizens from terrorist attacks, we strongly oppose any actions that lead to discrimination against certain groups just because of their ethnicity or faith.

We should remind ourselves that all people deserve to be respected and treated equally under the law. Each faith group should encourage and promote peace and harmony based on its beliefs and principles, and help create a better nation that we can be proud of.

Reverend Kodo Umezu, Bishop, Buddhist Churches of America

buddhistchurchesofamerica.org

BCA are Jodo Shinshu Buddhists, predominantly Japanese-Americans. I knew many BCA members back when I lived in Oregon and they are profoundly good and decent people….and a damn sight more American than Trump and his ilk.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:07:59am

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Because believing in karma means that I am now “condoning riots and the destruction of private property”. Bitch please, ever thought about the consequences his dumbass would have thought about before going to speak at a university that would be hostile towards him?

Spray painting a bus a world’s difference from what he’s actually done. Nope not feeling sorry for him at all. In fact, he’s loving every second of this “outrage.” You’re getting conned conservatives, you’re making him wealthy by treating him like a victim when he’s anything but a victim. Honestly, what we should do is point out that what he’s all about. It’s not even about ideology with this phony piece of shit. He’s just a pathetic child that hates liberals more than anything else so he uses his fame to find other like minded people to do that. I mean at least the 60’s campus radicals actually believed in something. Oh you hate liberals? Actually stand for something rather than being a stupid peroxide blonde asshole who gets his jollies ruining people.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:10:09am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just to clarify—this is not the flag at the Capitol, but at some little town near Clemson. Doesn’t make it less heinous, but not as big a deal as the clickbait header appears.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:12:23am

re: #21 lawhawk

There’s a reason that calls to foreign leaders are taped. That Trump turned off the recorder during the Putin call was more than just a break of protocol.

I didn’t know this.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:13:55am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

And those Al Queda members that came to this country didn’t come as terrorists.

did they become radicalized later? what did they do? which terrorists is she talking about?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:14:30am

re: #32 Sir John Barron

did they become radicalized later? what did they do? which terrorists is she talking about?

I assumed she was talking about the 9-11 terrorists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:14:44am

That’s the problem with Tweeting though.

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petesh  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:16:11am

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There’s a reason that calls to foreign leaders are taped. That Trump turned off the recorder during the Putin call was more than just a break of protocol.

I didn’t know that either; how about Notes taken during the call? Can they be FOIA’d — I presume not for 50 years or something.

Better yet, we could ask that nice Julian Assange to have a word with his buddies in Moscow and leak their transcript. /s

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jaunte  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:16:30am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:17:50am

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KGxvi  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:17:54am

re: #2 lawhawk

Pace yourself? He certainly isn’t.

He wants to see if he can reach record low favorabilities.

Never mind that the polling has not stopped him. The GOP hasn’t stopped him. Checks and balances aren’t stopping him, and he’s still issuing EOs at a rate never before seen in the nation. Governance by diktat.

And they’re all the best people working for him. No one knows what anyone else is doing, why they’re doing it, and are lying their asses off while doing it (see Spicer and Conway).

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Well, he’s on pace for a lot - at 18 in two weeks he’s on pace of 468 in his first year. FDR, by comparison, issued 573 executive orders in 1933 (he didn’t take office until March), which worked out to just under 14 orders per week. 468 executive orders would be third most all time, behind 1933 and 1934. Of course there was an actual depression going back then and the government needed to be drastically modernized to meet the very new and very real challenges we faced.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:20:12am

re: #38 KGxvi

Well, he’s on pace for a lot - at 18 in two weeks he’s on pace of 468 in his first year. FDR, by comparison, issued 573 executive orders in 1933 (he didn’t take office until March), which worked out to just under 14 orders per week. 468 executive orders would be third most all time, behind 1933 and 1934. Of course there was an actual depression going back then and the government needed to be drastically modernized to meet the very new and very real challenges we faced.

What’s really going to bug me is when the next Democratic president inevitably has a lot of executive power because of what Trump has done and the Republicans will bitch. That’s the thing that pissed me off about the whining about Obama. Bush increased the size of the executive. By doing, that he guaranteed that Obama would be forced to do that and it didn’t help that the GOP didn’t want ot cooperate with Obama at all.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:20:25am

It scares me that Trump’s comment about his friends not being able to borrow money as a basis for policy decision won’t even make a ripple. It’s outrageous.

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ipsos  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:21:16am

re: #31 Sir John Barron

I didn’t know this.

I’m not at all convinced this is true. My understanding has always been that since Nixon, presidents don’t record their conversations so as to avoid creating documents that can later be FOIA’d.

I want to see more about this to understand what’s really going on here.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:21:30am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

What’s really going to bug me is when the next Democratic president inevitably has a lot of executive power because of what Trump has done and the Republicans will bitch. That’s the thing that pissed me off about the whining about Obama. Bush increased the size of the executive. By doing, that he guaranteed that Obama would be forced to do that and it didn’t help that the GOP didn’t want ot cooperate with Obama at all.

Bush and his cronies pushed the “unitary executive theory” which essentially said the President could do whatever he wanted.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:21:52am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

It scares me that Lamarr’s comment about his friends not being able to borrow money as a basis for policy decision won’t even make a ripple. It’s outrageous.

It might. No one thing is going to take Trump down, but a constant drip-drip-drip will eventually do it.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:22:24am

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:23:01am

re: #42 Timothy Watson

Bush and his cronies pushed the “unitary executive theory” which essentially said the President could do whatever he wanted.

Yep and those same Republicans that loved that under him freaked out whenever Obama used his powers as executive.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:23:15am

re: #42 Timothy Watson

Bush and his cronies pushed the “unitary executive theory” which essentially said the President could do whatever he wanted.

One result of the Trump Presidency may be a reining in of the Executive branch.
It’s now obvious to Democrats that executive orders can do a lot of harm with no checks or balances other than lengthy court battles.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:23:23am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

It scares me that Trump’s comment about his friends not being able to borrow money as a basis for policy decision won’t even make a ripple. It’s outrageous.

Everyone is becoming numb to Trump. I know I sure am. He could (and probably will) declare himself dictator for life and the media will bring in both sides to discuss the pros and cons of it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:23:47am

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ipsos  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:23:54am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

It scares me that Trump’s comment about his friends not being able to borrow money as a basis for policy decision won’t even make a ripple. It’s outrageous.

More to the point:

TRUMP DOESN’T HAVE FRIENDS.

This is one of the things we know about him.

He may have “friends” who can’t borrow money, but only with the air quotes firmly in place. I don’t think there’s a soul on earth, Ivanka and the boys included, who’d, say, help him move a sofa or drive him to the airport at 4 in the morning in the way that a real friend would do for most of us.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:24:01am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Just give him a chance, they said.

Just words, they said.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:24:07am

re: #38 KGxvi

Yeah, a few days ago, he was well ahead of FDRs pace. Now, he’s slowed down a bit, but considering that Congress and WH are under GOP control, there’s no reason for him to be issuing these EOs when Congress could pass the laws enacting this stuff. Except doing it the old fashioned way - with legislation - opens up the procedure to public scrutiny and Bannon/Trump lose control of the message and information control. And Democrats would exert what little pressure they have in Congress to slow.

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Momkat56  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:24:19am

I now longer check the news, I call it the damage report.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:24:24am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

It scares me that Trump’s comment about his friends not being able to borrow money as a basis for policy decision won’t even make a ripple. It’s outrageous.

You’re right that this probably won’t be reported on, even though it is both outrageous and completely expected. Graft and corruption are not incidental with this administration, they are its essence.

The Republican version of ‘governance’ is to reward themselves and punish their enemies.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:25:05am
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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:25:11am

re: #51 lawhawk

Except doing it the old fashioned way - with legislation - opens up the procedure to public scrutiny and Bannon/Trump lose control of the message and information control. And Democrats would exert what little pressure they have in Congress to slow.

Come on now. The Congress can easily eliminate that little problem.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:25:26am

re: #52 Momkat56

I now longer check the news, I call it the damage report.

Democracy Falls the Reality Show

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Belafon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:25:59am

re: #49 ipsos

More to the point:

TRUMP DOESN’T HAVE FRIENDS.

This is one of the things we know about him.

He may have “friends” who can’t borrow money, but only with the air quotes firmly in place. I don’t think there’s a soul on earth, Ivanka and the boys included, who’d, say, help him move a sofa or drive him to the airport at 4 in the morning in the way that a real friend would do for most of us.

The only requirement my group of friends had when moving was you had to buy pizza at the end of the move. Trump would stiff people on that.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:26:21am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I do try to understand the conservative position but when the position involves taking someone’s rights. Nope, I can’t empathize, I won’t empathize.

Chuck U has snorted so much of that Magic Balance Fairy Dust that he too fried to comprehend what you posted!

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ipsos  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:26:26am

re: #51 lawhawk

On the plus side, doing everything he’s doing with EOs at least makes it easier to reverse if and when normal order is restored, right?

(I didn’t say “to undo,” on purpose.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:26:33am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

I assumed she was talking about the 9-11 terrorists.

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:27:13am

the MBF shit is the worst. Sorry but I refuse to accept “both sides are just as bad.” One side didn’t have a fucking nominee that called for a foreign power to hack his opponent. One side didn’t have a guy who as President no less compared our intel services to the Nazis. One side doesn’t have a frontman who obvoiusly prefers Putin to our long time allies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:27:35am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

Should I loan her a shovel?

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:27:54am

re: #57 Belafon

The only requirement my group of friends had when moving was you had to buy pizza at the end of the move. Trump would stiff people on that.

You have great friends. Mine required pizza AND beer.

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ipsos  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:28:10am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

I understand Lester Holt and Scott Pelley will be anchoring the network news from Bowling Green tonight.

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makeitstop  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:28:20am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

I assumed she was talking about the 9-11 terrorists.

I thought she was talking about a couple of guys who got caught building bombs (or planning to).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:28:29am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:28:56am

re: #65 makeitstop

I thought she was talking about a couple of guys who got caught building bombs (or planning to).

I suspect you are probably right about that.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:29:01am

I’m looking forward to Dinesh D’Souza’s book about how corrupt Trump is.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:29:39am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

Kellyanne is a lying liar that lies all the time, lies for the fun of it, and makes ‘corrections’ that are also lies.

It’s easy to see how she got her job — she’s probably the single most pathological liar in the entire nation.

When the time comes for the Inner Party to promulgate 2 + 2 = 5 to the masses, Kellyanne Conway will be the person to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:30:15am

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KGxvi  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:30:41am

re: #51 lawhawk

Yeah, a few days ago, he was well ahead of FDRs pace. Now, he’s slowed down a bit, but considering that Congress and WH are under GOP control, there’s no reason for him to be issuing these EOs when Congress could pass the laws enacting this stuff. Except doing it the old fashioned way - with legislation - opens up the procedure to public scrutiny and Bannon/Trump lose control of the message and information control. And Democrats would exert what little pressure they have in Congress to slow.

It’s still a hell of a pace. Something that really none of us have seen (someone born in 1934 would be 83 years old today). I’m curious to see what happens today and tomorrow after the stories about Bannon making moves on Friday night or Saturday day because Kushner is observing the sabbath.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:30:54am

re: #69 EPR-radar

Kellyanne is a lying liar that lies all the time, lies for the fun of it, and makes ‘corrections’ that are also lies.

It’s easy to see how she got her job — she’s probably the single most pathological liar in the entire nation.

When the time comes for the Inner Party to promulgate 2 + 2 = 5 to the masses, Kellyanne Conway will be the person to do it.

She really has no conscience at all. If Trump had lost teh GOP nomination, she’d just as easily be spinning up lies for Cruz.

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:31:23am

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:31:32am

re: #68 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’m looking forward to Dinesh D’Souza’s book about how corrupt Trump is.

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Citizen K  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:31:59am

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:32:10am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:33:06am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

the MBF shit is the worst. Sorry but I refuse to accept “both sides are just as bad.” One side didn’t have a fucking nominee that called for a foreign power to hack his opponent. One side didn’t have a guy who as President no less compared our intel services to the Nazis. One side doesn’t have a frontman who obvoiusly prefers Putin to our long time allies.

And one party in Congress doesn’t think it’s a great idea to pollute our water, foul our air, sell off our parks, starve our grannies—and that’s just some of this week’s bills.

Seriously, what kind of horrible people take delight in destroying our natural resources? Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:34:15am

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Belafon  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:34:25am

re: #71 KGxvi

It’s still a hell of a pace. Something that really none of us have seen (someone born in 1934 would be 83 years old today). I’m curious to see what happens today and tomorrow after the stories about Bannon making moves on Friday night or Saturday day because Kushner is observing the sabbath.

The other day I looked up the number of executive orders by president because one of my coworkers did the “But Obama issued so many”. Obama had the smallest number of EOs for a two term president in about 150 years. On the other hand, the first half of the 20th century was run from the presidency: Each one of the those presidents had thousands of EOs.

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makeitstop  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:34:30am

re: #69 EPR-radar

It’s easy to see how she got her job — she’s probably the single most pathological liar in the entire nation.

Hold on there. Boss is gonna get mad if you say that. He hates being challenged like that.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:35:08am

re: #76 Citizen K

Our political discourse would improve if folks in power and in the opposition could spend even just a second in the other’s shoes.

I missed this analysis during the glorious LOCK HER UP rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:35:18am

re: #78 BeachDem

And one party in Congress doesn’t think it’s a great idea to pollute our water, foul our air, sell off our parks, starve our grannies—and that’s just some of this week’s bills.

Seriously, what kind of horrible people take delight in destroying our natural resources? Republicans.

My one brother really got a good laugh when one of our friends tried to say that conservatives care about oil spills. He’s seen how condescending conservatives are to anyone who wants even the slightest environmental regulations.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:36:00am

re: #81 Belafon

The other day I looked up the number of executive orders by president. Obama had the smallest number of EOs for a two term president in about 150 years. On the other hand, the first half of the 20th century was run from the presidency: Each one of the those presidents had thousands of EOs.

It’s all the more remarkable how conservative President Obama was on EO’s when you consider his party only controlled the house for two of the eight years of his presidency.

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Citizen K  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:36:27am

re: #83 Sir John Barron

I missed this analysis during the glorious LOCK HER UP rallies.

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The great irony is that Trump’s entire thing was basically accusing Obama and Hillary of wearing his shoes.

And it worked, because in this country, it’s GOP Uber Alles.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:37:47am

re: #11 Kragar

This from Chuck Todd is asinine: “Our political discourse would improve if folks in power and in the opposition could spend even just a second in the other’s shoes.”

The understanding deficit is almost entirely on the Republicans, and the empathy deficit is entirely on the Republicans.

You can’t be a Republican and care, and most Republicans believe liberals are literally minions of Satan.

Meanwhile, most liberals see Republicans as wanting to cut taxes on the rich, end regulation of big business and start pointless wars. Since these aren’t easy policies to sell, liberals also tend to believe Republicans foment hate and division in this country via scapegoating in order to do what they really want in the resulting mob hysteria.

I have never seen this critique of the Republican party be successfully challenged in a reality based way, so I think I understand Republicans just fine.

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:38:09am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

Liars got to lie to cover the other lie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:38:25am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mike Lamb  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:38:31am

re: #76 Citizen K

It’s because we’re the only ones that have it.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:39:01am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

And I guess a white veteran didn’t kill over 100 people at Oklahoma City in 1995, Kurt. We don’t profile white veterans because of McVeigh and when the Bush administration of all people did try to say that veterans may be at risk for recruitment by domestic terrorist groups, people like you blew a gasket.

Or a white veteran killing Sikhs in Milwaukee at their gurdwara.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:39:40am

re: #82 makeitstop

Hold on there. Boss is gonna get mad if you say that. He hates being challenged like that.

Trump is number two in that particular contest because he may actually be incapable of seeing reality.

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Citizen K  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:39:55am

re: #91 Mike Lamb

It’s because we’re the only ones that have it.

Yet we’re accused of not having it while simultaneous punished for having it and called ‘bleeding hearts’.

Edit: Or rather, the modern version of ‘bleeding heart’, “SJW”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:40:06am

re: #92 electrotek

Or a white veteran killing Sikhs in Milwaukee at their gurdwara.

Frazier Glenn Miller was a veteran too as was Eric Rudolph.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:40:42am

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:18am

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:21am

In fact, let’s be honest here, many right wing domestic terrorists have military training. But guess what, I don’t believe that being a white military veteran means you should be thought of suspicious automatically. So why on earth shouldn’t Muslims get that same respect? Oh wait, they’re the wrong religion adn skin color.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:35am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

She confused Bowling Green and Chattanooga.
So I guess a Muslim radical didn’tt kill 4 servicemen?

All Muslims from Muslim countries are terrorists. OK? Period.

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b.d.  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:38am
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gocart mozart  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:51am
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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:41:53am

What?

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:42:24am

re: #97 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Of course. Members of the GOP team always have to try to move the ball downfield.

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Citizen K  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:44:14am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

In fact, let’s be honest here, many right wing domestic terrorists have military training. But guess what, I don’t believe that being a white military veteran means you should be thought of suspicious automatically. So why on earth shouldn’t Muslims get that same respect? Oh wait, they’re the wrong religion adn skin color.

They’re allowed the agency of being an individual actor. The idea that their actions are their actions alone and don’t get reflected on the larger group, because they’re the ‘default’. You can’t make an assumption against the ‘default’ by just one individual!

Meanwhile, blacks, Muslims, liberals, women, any ‘othered’ group, if someone acts up, someone does something terrible, someone does something offensive, it’s never just one person, it’s a symptom of a wholly unique and widespread pathology among the entire group. One member does something, the only recourse is collective blame, collective guilt. THe entire group has sinned because they didn’t reign this guy in so everyone must be punished and shun as the Monolith they are.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:45:59am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

In fact, let’s be honest here, many right wing domestic terrorists have military training. But guess what, I don’t believe that being a white military veteran means you should be thought of suspicious automatically. So why on earth shouldn’t Muslims get that same respect? Oh wait, they’re the wrong religion adn skin color.

The Terrorist Next Door by Daniel Levitas gives a pretty good rundown of right wing terrorism throughout recent US history.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:46:23am

I’d be empathetic if they just tried even remotely to understand that they’re not the only ones who love this country, have a work ethic, have jobs, love their families, etc. Instead, I have to deal with one of my wingnut cousins posting a stupid Ronald Reagan quote how Republicans think every day is July 4 and Democrats think every day is April 15 and this was coming from a man who knew many Democratic combat veterans. Republicans hate admitting that Dems can be just as patriotic as they are. I don’t wear a flag pin but I’m proud to be an American. I don’t need to be told Make America Great Again by a orange faced con-artist. I believe America is already great but we can make it even better.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:46:24am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still digging that hole about Bowling Green.

Or attempting to implant it permanently in the “minds” of the Trumpen Lumpetariat.
In a year Fox News viewers and idiots in general will be confused and outraged when you suggest that the Bowling Green massacre never happened.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:46:37am

re: #106 Arkansawyer

The Terrorist Next Door by Daniel Levitas gives a pretty good rundown of right wing terrorism throughout recent US history.

I’ll have to look for that.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:48:11am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I’ll have to look for that.

Had to read it in my History of Modern Terrorism course while in college. That was a very interesting course.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:48:19am

re: #105 Citizen K

They’re allowed the agency of being an individual actor. The idea that their actions are their actions alone and don’t get reflected on the larger group, because they’re the ‘default’. You can’t make an assumption against the ‘default’ by just one individual!

Meanwhile, blacks, Muslims, liberals, women, any ‘othered’ group, if someone acts up, someone does something terrible, someone does something offensive, it’s never just one person, it’s a symptom of a wholly unique and widespread pathology among the entire group. One member does something, the only recourse is collective blame, collective guilt. THe entire group has sinned because they didn’t reign this guy in so everyone must be punished and shun as the Monolith they are.

Exactly, after Dylann Roof shot up that church, white guys like myself weren’t told “Hey you need to do something about the terrorist problem you have.” Those other groups you mention don’t get that luxury. Nope, they pompous right wing assholes on FNC telling them what they need to do to “police” their group.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:48:36am

re: #110 Arkansawyer

Had to read it in my History of Modern Terrorism course while in college. That was a very interesting course.

That does sound like an interesting course.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:49:44am
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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:49:47am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

That does sound like an interesting course.

It was taught by a guy who comes from a long line of British paratroopers and marines. We covered the IRA in depth.

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Citizen K  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:49:58am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I’d be empathetic if they just tried even remotely to understand that they’re not the only ones who love this country, have a work ethic, have jobs, love their families, etc. Instead, I have to deal with one of my wingnut cousins posting a stupid Ronald Reagan quote how Republicans think every day is July 4 and Democrats think every day is April 15 and this was coming from a man who knew many Democratic combat veterans. Republicans hate admitting that Dems can be just as patriotic as they are. I don’t wear a flag pin but I’m proud to be an American. I don’t need to be told Make America Great Again by a orange faced con-artist. I believe America is already great but we can make it even better.

I don’t think they hate admitting that. I’m convinced that many simply believe it’s impossible. Being a Democrat is as disqualifying toward being an actual ‘American’ as being Muslim, being Gay, being Trans, etc. Hell, I doubt they even count conservative Blacks or Women as being more than ‘honorary’.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:50:46am

re: #115 Citizen K

I don’t think they hate admitting that. I’m convinced that many simply believe it’s impossible. Being a Democrat is as disqualifying toward being an actual ‘American’ as being Muslim, being Gay, being Trans, etc. Hell, I doubt they even count conservative Blacks or Women as being more than ‘honorary’.

I do think you’re right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:51:24am

re: #42 Timothy Watson

Bush and his cronies pushed the “unitary executive theory” which essentially said the President could do whatever he wanted.

Why can’t “his friends” borrow money? Or when he says “my friends” he really means “Donald Trump” who can’t borrow money from US banks because HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING IT BACK.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:52:41am

re: #110 Arkansawyer

Had to read it in my History of Modern Terrorism course while in college. That was a very interesting course.

There was a good book that I read in my terrorism course about domestic terrorism but I can’t remember the name. Female author IIRC. I’ll have to see if I can find it lying around the house, or my brother might have it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:52:52am

re: #114 Arkansawyer

It was taught by a guy who comes from a long line of British paratroopers and marines. We covered the IRA in depth.

My international relations professor at community college worked for James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s counter-intel guy. from 54-75. Guy was paranoid as hell about Soviet moles after Kim Phillby, who had been his friend in WWII was revealed to be one of the Cambridge Six but man that class was interesting. It provoked my imagination about Russia a lot. Those are the best professors though, the ones that are more than just mere academics but ones that have lived their subject. I had another history professor who directed a few presidential libraries and even gave one of Jerry Ford’s eulogy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:53:26am

Had an Irish history professor when I studied in Ireland that had grown up in Belfast in the time of the Troubles too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:54:19am

The history of domestic terrorism is pretty interesting in this country. I remember my one grandfather saying he remembered a KKK rally in his hometown and his family being a little scared- they were immigrants.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:55:33am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

My international relations professor at community college worked for James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s counter-intel guy. from 54-75. Guy was paranoid as hell about Soviet moles after Kim Phillby, who had been his friend in WWII was revealed to be one of the Cambridge Six but man that class was interesting. It provoked my imagination about Russia a lot. Those are the best professors though, the ones that are more than just mere academics but ones that have lived their subject. I had another history professor who directed a few presidential libraries and even gave one of Jerry Ford’s eulogy.

My professor at VCU for “The Intelligence Community and the Intelligence Process” had worked for John Brennan when he was at TTIC (Terrorist Threat Integration Center, now the National Counterterrorism Center).

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unproven innocence  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:55:45am

In The True Believer Eric Hoffer explained that one of Mao’s most effective ways of destroying his political enemies within national borders was a strategy of politicizing/indoctrinating young adults and, especially, children. Millions of children literally ratted out brothers, sisters, parents, aunts, uncles, neighbors and teachers for expressing (among themselves) dissenting opinions, and in many cases, merely for failing to parrot official party-in-power propaganda.

Maoist-style networks of child-spies are not very likely to be seen again, thanks to the normalization of near-universal surveillance on-line and in public places. And thanks to modern technologies, online learning is increasingly practical and popular.

If you see optimism in these remarks, you are reading me wrong.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:57:11am

re: #110 Arkansawyer

Had to read it in my History of Modern Terrorism course while in college. That was a very interesting course.

One of the most interesting courses I took in college was Public Health Microbiology, i.e. germ terrorism. Shaped history like no humans ever could.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:57:37am

re: #118 Timothy Watson

There was a good book that I read in my terrorism course about domestic terrorism but I can’t remember the name. Female author IIRC. I’ll have to see if I can find it lying around the house, or my brother might have it.

If you haven’t read it, I cannot recommend Rebel Hearts by Kevin Toolis enough. Also, Europe’s Red Terrorist by Dennis Pluchinsky.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:57:38am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Why can’t “his friends” borrow money? Or when he says “my friends” he really means “Donald Trump” who can’t borrow money from US banks because HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING IT BACK.

Well, his “friends” are his kids, who are subject to the same restrictions that he’s apparently under (domestic banks wont lend due to the risk). And his ‘friends’ also include Tovarisch Putin. You know, because he plays like that.

Meanwhile, credit is still easily available for businesses across the nation. The financial regs aren’t stopping lending in the slightest bit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:58:11am

re: #122 Timothy Watson

My professor at VCU for “The Intelligence Community and the Intelligence Process” had worked for John Brennan when he was TTIC (Terrorist Threat Integration Center, now the National Counterterrorism Center).

Didn’t know you went to VCU. I applied and got in there. Those are as I said the most neat professors. I had one history professor who had been teaching on Russian history since the Khrushchev years.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:59:19am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

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..Ronald Reagan quote how Republicans think every day is July 4 and Democrats think every day is April 15

One could look at that quote as meaning that Republicans think every day is a paid holiday when they get to sit around patting themselves on the back, while Democrats think every day is a day to pay what’s owed to the country. I’m just sayin’…

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:59:55am

re: #103 Stanley Sea

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I think he meant, “If we had recovered sensitive information it would have looked a lot like this shit we captured years ago.”

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:59:56am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Why can’t “his friends” borrow money? Or when he says “my friends” he really means “Donald Trump” who can’t borrow money from US banks because HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING IT BACK.

Indeed. If they can’t get loans it’s because they are what the banks call “bad risks”. Otherwise they’d be lined up to write the checks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:00:06pm

re: #128 BeachDem

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One could look at that quote as meaning that Republicans think every day is a paid holiday when they get to sit around patting themselves on the back, while Democrats think every day is a day to pay what’s owed to the country. I’m just sayin’…

Snicker, you’re good!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:00:50pm
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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:01:02pm

Ah, gotta love the Twitters. Guy starts tweeting innocuously enough - critical of my comments about Trump and the economy, because Trump’s first economic moves do more harm to the middle class and let the corporations and banks engage in activities that include conflicts of interest and would reduce the wealth of people who invest.

Guy then claims that the economy will soar. I counter with fact that under Obama the DJIA went from 8500 to 19k. Unemployment went from ~8 to 4.9%. He’s like - that rate is BS. You believe it?

I said, yeah, you’re blocked for factual dumbassery. And I saw it coming, because that’s how Trump twits roll in the Shire.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:02:22pm

Apparently my professor of modern American lit pissed off Brent Bozell’s group.
en.wikipedia.org
Guy just looked and sounded like a literature professor with an old South accent. I wrote a paper on Richard Wright for his class. It was also through that class that I got introduced to the work of Cheever and Updike.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:03:03pm

They are sticking it to so many people, so fast.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:03:32pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Why can’t “his friends” borrow money? Or when he says “my friends” he really means “Donald Trump” who can’t borrow money from US banks because HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING IT BACK.

Perhaps he means himself and the spawn, as they are his only friends.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:03:38pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

They are sticking it to so many people, so fast.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:07:08pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know you went to VCU. I applied and got in there. Those are as I said the most neat professors. I had one history professor who had been teaching on Russian history since the Khrushchev years.

Yep, criminal justice major with homeland security & emergency preparedness minor.

My professor for the terrorism course was one of the first female cadets in the Air Force Academy (she was in the first class that had female cadets). She was on the team that evacuated Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines.

She had a guy she knew, who was working for the Turkish government and taking graduate courses at the university, come in and talk about the PKK and Turkish counterterrorism strategy over the years.

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KGxvi  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:08:25pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Why can’t “his friends” borrow money? Or when he says “my friends” he really means “Donald Trump” who can’t borrow money from US banks because HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING IT BACK.

No, no, no… by “friends” he means “Putin and the Russian mob” who can’t borrow money in the US because of those mean sanctions Obama did. But he’s going to take care of that problem for his “friends”.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:09:03pm

re: #125 Arkansawyer

If you haven’t read it, I cannot recommend Rebel Hearts by Kevin Toolis enough. Also, Europe’s Red Terrorist by Dennis Pluchinsky.

“Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” by Stefan Aust. Excellent book. It’s been translated into English.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:09:55pm

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

“Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” by Stefan Aust. Excellent book. It’s been translated into English.

amazon.com

Thanks! I’ll have to check it out.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:11:30pm

re: #138 Timothy Watson

Yep, criminal justice major with homeland security & emergency preparedness minor.

My professor for the terrorism course was one of the first female cadets in the Air Force Academy (she was in the first class that had female cadets). She was on the team that evacuated Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines.

She had a guy she knew, who was working for the Turkish government and taking graduate courses at the university, come in and talk about the PKK and Turkish counterterrorism strategy over the years.

History major, English minor. I always did enjoy my classes.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:12:07pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Had an Irish history professor when I studied in Ireland that had grown up in Belfast in the time of the Troubles too.

It’s been a long time since I watched it, but I remember “Endgame in Ireland” being a really good documentary. All four parts are on Youtube.

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b.d.  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:12:33pm

I wonder if the Friday afternoon bad news dump is still going to be a thing or if Donald is going to time all news dumps for maximum ratings?

In a real world one would expect for a bunch of resignations/firings to be announced here in the next couple of hours.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:13:59pm

re: #141 Arkansawyer

Or, if you understand German, you can see the equally excellent film based on that book. Top-notch acting.

In private tag as the film is NSFW.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:14:50pm

re: #143 BeachDem

It’s been a long time since I watched it, but I remember “Endgame in Ireland” being a really good documentary. All four parts are on Youtube.

google.com

I’ll watch that. I have YouTube on my TV. I find Irish history fascinating. Tragic and sad but fascinating and having relatives from there, I of course always imagine what my family was doing. Some of them were from the North and others from the west. All RCC as far as I know.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:15:37pm

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:17:20pm

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

Haven’t spoken any German in well over a decade. Might be a bit over my head. Haha.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:18:07pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:18:41pm

re: #150 Arkansawyer

Haven’t spoken any German in well over a decade. Might be a bit over my head. Haha.

It might be good practice then; maybe it’ll start coming back. :D

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:19:16pm

re: #139 KGxvi

No, no, no… by “friends” he means “Putin and the Russian mob” who can’t borrow money in the US because of those mean sanctions Obama did. But he’s going to take care of that problem for his “friends”.

And that populist hero, Jamie Dimon will help!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:19:17pm

Speaking of Germans, The Lives of Others was such a phenomenal movie. Was annoyed that I think NRO or one of the conservative rags tried to say it was a conservative movie because it was anti-communist. You could have made the same movie about fascism, ti was an anti-authoritarian movie. Brilliant though. And the actor who played the Stasi actor lived the East German experience. I think he sadly died not long after the film’s release.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:19:43pm

Found the book I was thinking about:
Terror in the Name of God: Why Religious Militants Kill by Jessica Stern

It’s not just about domestic terrorism but it does cover that too.

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Interesting Times  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:20:27pm
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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:22:51pm

re: #156 Timothy Watson

Found the book I was thinking about:
Terror in the Name of God: Why Religious Militants Kill by Jessica Stern

It’s not just about domestic terrorism but it does cover that too.

I’ll have to check this one out as well. If you want a good WWII memoir, then read First Light by Geoffrey Wellum. Guy joined the RAF at the age of 17.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:25:01pm
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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:25:22pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:25:28pm

Okay, I LOLed.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:26:26pm

Also good:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:26:37pm

I’m taking to getting interested in escape stories again. I have Colditz on my to visit this summer for my trip. There was a great BBC series called Colditz that I found on YouTube in the 70’s. If you liked the Great Escape, it was more gritty, even had a couple of the same actors- David McCollum was a main star on the show and Nigol Stock was in an episode as a German. The Great Escape I think does romanticize a little of POW life for Allied officers but the best thing it did was to show that there was humanity to the Luftwaffe officers that guarded Allied air men. Story I heard was Goering had great respect for fellow airmen regardless of nationality and that’s why the Allied air men were treated decently by them.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:28:47pm

Since we’ve discussed the possibility of arming up before Trump bans gun sales to liberals (with the NRA’s hearty concurrence, of course), I thought I would present a few updates on available hardware.

One interesting trend in the gun biz is the virtual re-invention of the bolt action military rifle. Mossberg in particular has gone all-out with its line of MVP paramilitary bolt rifles.
This is the 16.5” MVP Patrol model:

The Mossberg MVP Patrol is ideal for duty, defense, competition, and hunting applications. The Mossberg MVP Patrol is well made utilizing…..blah, blah

This has all the usual features of the familiar AR-15 “modern sporting rifle” (aka assault weapon) EXCEPT the semi-automatic action: black polymer stock, military sights, the ever-present Picatinny rail accessory mounting device, and a large capacity(for a bolt gun) detachable magazine. The 5.56 version shown will use AR-15 mags in fact.

This would have an interesting advantage in serious, stuff-hits-the-fan social collapse situations because it would happily shoot marginal ammunition that would not reliably cycle the action of a semi-automatic.
There is a whole line of MVP rifles available, with various barrel lengths and other options, including some that chamber the larger 7.62MM/.308 round

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:30:05pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

I really, really want to rub this in the face of my cousin who, on Facebook, described this as an “immigration pause” and said it was just being a distraction from Bannon, who is the real threat. (Which, okay, at least she doesn’t like Bannon - but I guarantee you she’s totes okay with a lot of the other stuff going on right now, because she’s well on her way to RWNJ status, complete with linking articles from The Federalist with a straight face. Including the one about how it’s all liberals’ fault that DT got elected because political correctness.)

But I won’t, because I am mature and also have pretty much hidden all of her comments from view.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:32:50pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

I was finally looking at buying some ammunition, but I was worried I might be hitting the moonbat-wingnut convergence zone.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:33:05pm

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I really, really want to rub this in the face of my cousin who, on Facebook, described this as an immigration pause and said it was just being a distraction from Bannon, who is the real threat. (Which, okay, at least she doesn’t like Bannon - but I guarantee you she’s totes okay with a lot of the other stuff going on right now, because she’s well on her way to RWNJ status, complete with linking articles from The Federalist with a straight face. Including the one about how it’s all liberals’ fault that DT got elected because political correctness.)

But I won’t, because I am mature and also have pretty much hidden all of her comments from view.

Did that with my one friend as suggested. I felt a little bad about so I returned things to normal and I regretted it since he was posting sexist shit about the women in the marches two weeks ago. I’ve had some nice solidarity moments with some others though. One of my cousins lives in the UK, I actually stayed with her and her family when I was overseas two summers ago and I was telling her how all this stuff has me worried, and she was telling me how she’s helped out the refugees there. You’d like her. She’s a fellow knitter. She knitted a skirt for my niece for Christmas last year.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:33:41pm

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I really, really want to rub this in the face of my cousin who, on Facebook, described this as an “immigration pause” and said it was just being a distraction from Bannon, who is the real threat. (Which, okay, at least she doesn’t like Bannon - but I guarantee you she’s totes okay with a lot of the other stuff going on right now, because she’s well on her way to RWNJ status, complete with linking articles from The Federalist with a straight face. Including the one about how it’s all liberals’ fault that DT got elected because political correctness.)

But I won’t, because I am mature and also have pretty much hidden all of her comments from view.

You should rub it. Maybe the stink will get her attention.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:33:48pm

re: #167 Timothy Watson

I was finally looking at buying some ammunition, but I was worried I might be hitting the moonbat-wingnut convergence zone.

I still don’t have a desire to own a gun yet. Maybe that’s naive. I dunno but I don’t want to live in fear either. I want to be vigilant but not fearful.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:35:54pm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:36:27pm

Honestly since Klys did bring up PC, I’m getting tired of the whining about it and using dislike of it to be an asshole. Okay, you don’t like political correctness. You don’t need to do a Nazi salute in your class photo when you probably do have some classmates who had family killed by the real thing. Are those kids in Texas actual Nazis? I suspect not but I suspect they’re something else, indifferent to what the Nazis are. And that’s the thing with this anti-PC humor/culture I’m seeing where we don’t try to understand others. I don’t agree with everything that is called PC but given the choice between trying to understand someone and being a childish dick, I choose the former every day time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:36:54pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

Since we’ve discussed the possibility of arming up before Trump bans gun sales to liberals (with the NRA’s hearty concurrence, of course), I thought I would present a few updates on available hardware.

One interesting trend in the gun biz is the virtual re-invention of the bolt action military rifle. Mossberg in particular has gone all-out with its line of MVP paramilitary bolt rifles.
This is the 16.5” MVP Patrol model:

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This has all the usual features of the familiar AR-15 “modern sporting rifle” (aka assault weapon) EXCEPT the semi-automatic action: black polymer stock, military sights, the ever-present Picatinny rail accessory mounting device, and a large capacity(for a bolt gun) detachable magazine. The 5.56 version shown will use AR-15 mags in fact.

This would have an interesting advantage in serious, stuff-hits-the-fan social collapse situations because it would happily shoot marginal ammunition that would not reliably cycle the action of a semi-automatic.
There is a whole line of MVP rifles available, with various barrel lengths and other options, including some that chamber the larger 7.62MM/.308 round

Good timing. I am just now renewing my credentials at IDPA. Going to renew Safety Officer, Chief Safety Officer and Safety Officer Instructor. Got a training bay when I need it for one on one sessions.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:37:31pm

re: #171 Timothy Watson

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Also be secure in one’s manhood and not own a weapon.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:38:12pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

They are sticking it to so many people, so fast.

…and creating so many enemies simultaneously.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:38:26pm

Not saying you’re insecure in your manhood if you own one btw but I am saying one doesn’t need to own a gun to be comfortable in his masculinity and I resent the gun culture suggesting if you’re not goo goo for guns, you’re somehow a wuss.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:38:48pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I still don’t have a desire to own a gun yet. Maybe that’s naive. I dunno but I don’t want to live in fear either. I want to be vigilant but not fearful.

I certainly respect the decision of those who feel like they want to get a gun given the changes in things this year. I’m still not prepared to go through the kind of training for both myself and mr. klys that would be required for me to feel comfortable having a weapon in our house.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:40:19pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I certainly respect the decision of those who feel like they want to get a gun given the changes in things this year. I’m still not prepared to go through the kind of training for both myself and mr. klys that would be required for me to feel comfortable having a weapon in our house.

Right. I mean if you want to, I’m not saying do or don’t do that but I really don’t feel like I need a weapon in the house. If the time comes, yes, I’ll learn but there’s more ways of resisting than a gun.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:40:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:41:50pm

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Hey Teleski, this is what your snowflake Cory is whining about. “Paid protesters” calling him. I know, the nerve of people to suggest that he actually think for something otehr than his party.

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:42:21pm

I will always remain optimistic…but damn there are days when you read so much that really bums you out.

We do a lot of music on Fridays here at LGF…and I feel like some current mood blues.

This tune is by an Ohio band that had a lead singer with a powerful soulful voice that could knock a crowd out every time they played. His name is Bill Constable, but he went with the stage name of Adam Blessing.

This will be rather unknown because these guys never really made it past being a regional band…but they were very good, especially live. Many times they opened for Joe Walsh and the James Gang.

And the strings (by members of the string section of the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra) always added to the sorrowfulness of the blues.

I hope you like it.

The Damnation of Adam Blessing: Sometimes I Feel Like I Can’t Go On

Damnation of Adam Blessing - Sometimes I feel like I just can’t go on(1971) lyrics

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:42:37pm
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KingKenrod  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:42:48pm

Chuck Todd won’t learn a thing from the mocking of his dopey tweet. Too bad, there’s so much opportunity for good journalism now and he is in a position to make a difference.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:43:11pm

Made me think of BeachDem.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:43:21pm

re: #179 Myron Falwell

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It amuses me that the people who wanted to see Colin Kaepernick ruined are the same people who think we should listen to Spencer’s “beliefs.” I admit it, I wouldn’t have punched him but that may be in part because I wouldn’t want to give the sniveling little baby anything to find martyrdom over.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:43:52pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

I will always remain optimistic…but damn there are days when you read so much that really bums you out.

We do a lot of music on Fridays here at LGF…and I feel like some current mood blues.

This tune is by an Ohio band that had a lead singer with a powerful soulful voice that could knock a crowd out every time they played. His name is Bill Constable, but he went with the stage name of Adam Blessing.

This will be rather unknown because these guys never really made it past being a regional band…but they were very good, especially live. Many times they opened for Joe Walsh and the James Gang.

And the strings (by members of the string section of the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra) always added to the sorrowfulness of the blues.

I hope you like it.

The Damnation of Adam Blessing: Sometimes I Feel Like I Can’t Go On

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No doubt as an Ohio guy, you’re familiar with the Black Keys. This place is great for tunes.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:45:49pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:46:18pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Related:

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:46:51pm

re: #183 KingKenrod

Insisting on valid data is a liberal plot according to RWNJs.

Seriously, the Republicans are basically delusional and the Democrats are basically not delusional. It’s impossible for any media outfit to cover US politics in any useful way while studiously ignoring this simple fact.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:47:14pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Made me think of BeachDem.

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I told BeachDem and another Pats fan I know but they shouldn’t let it get in the way of rooting for their team. I guess I can’t really talk too much since my sports teams are actually pretty liberal and Democratic in how they’re run. My favorite baseball team’s President expressed understanding for the people in Baltimore upset over Freddie Gray’s death and they’re very labor friendly (Angelos made his money representing Absentos victims) and the coach of my favorite football team hosted a Hillary fundraiser and the owner was a big Obama booster and our ambassador to Ireland. I’ll admit it though, knowing about that and NE makes it easier for me to want Atlanta to win but I really want Atlanta to win from a pure sports fan perspective, if my team ain’t in it, I almost always choose the team that hasn’t won one before.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:47:49pm

re: #188 Interesting Times

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The Yankees fall under that too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:48:54pm

And I get that Colin Kapeernick was never assaulted but he certainly received his fair share of death threats for doing stuff far more tame than Spencer has.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:50:16pm

Really good piece by Charles P. Pierce today:

Donald Trump Has Hijacked Democracy. The Response Is Up to the Country.
Two weeks in, we already know what we’re dealing with.

esquire.com

Some excerpts:

It has not been a very encouraging week for democracy here, but there are a couple of lessons to be drawn from all the activity, and all the non-activity, that’s taken place. First, and this has been obvious for a while, but it became vivid and clear over the past five days, there is absolutely no legitimate political opposition within the Republican party to anything the president* says or does...

Second, it really is time to let up on the Democrats a little…The Democrats fought as hard as they could in committee against these nominees, and with every tool available to them… They even forced the Republicans twice to change committee rules in order to approve nominees with Republican votes only… They have pulled every delaying tactic available to a minority in the Senate and they’ve done so full in the knowledge that Mitch McConnell is perfectly willing to blow up whatever political norms—Hi there, Merrick Garland!—and change whatever political norms are in the way of getting what he and his president want…

The wires and pulleys by which Trumpism is hijacking democracy have been exposed. The rest is up to the country.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:50:28pm

Same thing with Milo’s followers. They’ve done plenty of death threats on people too. So yeah hard for me to really see either Spencer or Milo Y as the martyr they so despaerately want to sell themselves as. Which is kind of funny to me because they insist that liberals are the ones who see themselves as victims. I never see myself as a victim. I see myself as someone who has some bad luck but try to constantly improve myself.

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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:50:37pm

Some uplifting news:

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Joe Bacon  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:51:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:51:11pm

re: #195 lockjawcanbefun

Some uplifting news:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:51:46pm

We should try to understand the position of those that want to deny kids life saving surgery. //

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:51:53pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

Insisting on valid data is a liberal plot according to RWNJs.

Seriously, the Republicans are basically delusional and the Democrats are basically not delusional. It’s impossible for any media outfit to cover US politics in any useful way while studiously ignoring this simple fact.

The GOP has devolved into an electable version of the LaRouche Movement; a fanatical political cult devoid of reason and incapable of critical thought.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:52:05pm

And those assholes Pence, Conway, and all the right wing assholes call themselves Christians? Fah!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:52:10pm

So. I’m guessing the Yemen raid yielded nothing, so they trotted out that 10 year old video in an attempt to make it seem otherwise. Is that pretty much how it works now?

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:53:25pm

So the Jan Sehn Institute of Forensic Research in Cracow (same guys who forensically proved that HCN gas was used in the Auschwitz gas chambers) examined the latest cache of documents proving that Lech Walesa was an agent of the Polish analog of KGB in the 1970s and found them to be authentic. Having read the earlier analysis in IPN’s 2008 book based on a much more limited material it was already clear that Walesa’s collaboration was proven, despite his protestations. And he is still in denial, still calling all the documents “fake” and the experts biased, while offering various implausible stories as explanation of some of the documents. His achievements were enormous but he himself is destroying his legacy by being a lying weasel.

ipn.gov.pl

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:53:54pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

And in these parts, it’s the Red Sox, Cowboys, Eagles, and Patriots. Though to be fair, the Eagles haven’t bothered anyone in so long that they’ve fallen off the list.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:53:54pm

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has devolved into an electable version of the LaRouche Movement; a fanatical political cult devoid of reason and incapable of critical thought.

Their ideology is they hate liberals. I laughed my ass off at my cousin when he posted one of his conservative memes about “Who Trump supporters are” Iten number one is “We hate the liberal ideology.” If I knew him better (he’s a distant cousin), I’d say dude if the first thing your movement is saying is about what you hate, that really doesn’t speak well of your movement. I’m not too hard on him though since he does appreciate my ancestral research- his grandmother and my grandfather were siblings and as I said barely know him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:54:46pm

re: #203 Scottish Dragon

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:54:46pm

re: #196 Joe Bacon

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:54:58pm

I can truthfully say that I hate the Super Bowl this year, not just cuz I hate the Pats but because my pleasant little RV park community is already starting to fill with fans going to the game. I’ve seen 3 rental RVs already and know tomorrow will be insane.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:56:12pm

re: #205 lawhawk

And in these parts, it’s the Red Sox, Cowboys, Eagles, and Patriots. Though to be fair, the Eagles haven’t bothered anyone in so long that they’ve fallen off the list.

I do hate all four of those too heh. It’s hard for me to hate the Cowboys like I used to though. They were fun to watch this year and their players seem like alright guys.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:57:39pm
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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:58:24pm

re: #195 lockjawcanbefun

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 12:59:29pm

re: #212 lawhawk

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makeitstop  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:00:00pm

re: #162 klys (maker of Silmarils)

breaking news american national anthem has been changed to the fast music that plays when you’re running out of time in super mario bros

Please rise and remove your hats…

Super Mario Bros. 3 Music - Athletic (Time Running Out)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:00:10pm

I’d like to visit Norway one day but I was pretty scared hearing ten dollars for a beer in Oslo from someone I talked to whom had a layover there.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:00:14pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Made me think of BeachDem.

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That’s me. I have had a Superbowl party every time the Pats have been in it—making New England clam chowder, Yankee Potroast, Cape Codder punch, Boston Creme Pie etc. Just can’t do it this year.

But I like that guy’s idea—and will contribute to Planned Parenthood if the Pats win.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:01:23pm

re: #217 BeachDem

That’s me. I have had a Superbowl party every time the Pats have been in it—making New England clam chowder, Yankee Potroast, Cape Codder punch, Boston Creme Pie etc. Just can’t do it this year.

But I like that guy’s idea—and will contribute to Planned Parenthood if the Pats win.

In Brady or Belichick or Kraft’s name :). It was hilarious reading about all the donations PP got that were in Pence’s name.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:02:16pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I’d like to visit Norway one day but I was pretty scared hearing ten dollars for a beer in Oslo from someone I talked to whom had a layover there.

Yeah, fuck that. In the meantime I have visited Prague and the beer there is both cheap and wonderful.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:03:34pm

re: #219 Nyet

Yeah, fuck that. In the meantime I have visited Prague and the beer there is both cheap and wonderful.

Yeah Prague’s great. Norweigan food really doesn’t get me excited either. I like seafood but lutefish doesn’t sound too appealing.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:03:43pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Pretty much concur:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:04:43pm

re: #221 lawhawk

Pretty much concur:

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Yep. he also had that stupid tweet that the election was so “safe” that you could vote your “conscience.” I have no respect at all for Sonwden.

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Kragar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:06:32pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:07:25pm
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Well that will fucking end the moment it is sunset tonight and Bannon has Trump all to himself for 24 hours while the son in law observes Sabbath.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:07:41pm

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So this just happened, and couldn’t help but to upload and share my thoughts. Very touched, I must say.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:07:47pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Yeah Prague’s great. Norweigan food really doesn’t get me excited either. I like seafood but lutefish doesn’t sound too appealing.

I like fish and I like lute, but I wouldn’t dare to try lutefish (or lutefisk).

Лютневая Музыка 16 - 17 веков / Lute Music Of The 16th - 17th Centuries

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:08:59pm

I was feeling very depressed today so I made these:
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:10:11pm

re: #226 Nyet

I like fish and I like lute, but I wouldn’t dare to try lutefish (or lutefisk).

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Oops Lutefisk. But anyhow yeah 10 dollar beer. Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:10:31pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

I was feeling very depressed today so I made these:
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Those look good.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:11:00pm

OK, so Westworld was mindblowingly good.

Westworld - Paint It Black - Entire Scene

Second season of Ash v. Evil Dead was … good.

The Witch… meeeeh.
Resolution… the ending sucks (which is sort of meta), but the film itself is worth watching.
The Autopsy of Jane Doe - recommended! (From the Trollhunters guy.)
The Nice Guys - neat.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:11:05pm
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Belafon  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:11:16pm

re: #224 Scottish Dragon

Well that will fucking end the moment it is sunset tonight and Bannon has Trump all to himself for 24 hours while the son in law observes Sabbath.

I’m not Jewish, but I believe you can get around that in certain situation, like if yours or other people’s lives are in danger.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:11:27pm

re: #187 Nyet

So glad you’re back!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:11:34pm

I think Trumps next memoir should be entitled the Audacity of Grope.

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weave  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:13:06pm

re: #224 Scottish Dragon

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Well that will fucking end the moment it is sunset tonight and Bannon has Trump all to himself for 24 hours while the son in law observes Sabbath.

Yup — it’s going to be a long 24 hours….

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:16:45pm

re: #221 lawhawk

Even if it is accepted (incorrectly) that Clinton = Goldman Sachs, how does that make Trump (or any Republican) any better?

How is MOAR Goldman Sachs + normal Republican bad craziness + Trump’s extra special bad craziness worse than just a (supposed) Goldman Sachs candidate.

Snowden is an idiot, as is anyone else who subscribed to this kind of completely addled ‘reasoning’.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:17:12pm

Okay time to time work out. LAter guys.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:17:25pm

re: #217 BeachDem

That’s me. I have had a Superbowl party every time the Pats have been in it—making New England clam chowder, Yankee Potroast, Cape Codder punch, Boston Creme Pie etc. Just can’t do it this year.

But I like that guy’s idea—and will contribute to Planned Parenthood if the Pats win.

Damn, I’d fly down for that!

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:17:38pm
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Ummm…. Iran’s proxies do not include Islamic State or al Qaeda.

Sunni/Shi’a thing and all that.

al Qaeda has a running beef against Iran and Shi’a who they consider apostate.

So, if Yemen is supposedly where Trump’s going as a proxy for Iran, that’s a pretty awful place to start.

It’s still a good idea to go after AQAP and IS.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:17:56pm

re: #225 electrotek

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So this just happened, and couldn’t help but to upload and share my thoughts. Very touched, I must say.

I want his t-shirt. (wouldn’t actually mind if he was still in it but that’s a whole nother subject)

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:18:22pm

re: #240 lawhawk

Ummm…. Iran’s proxies do not include Islamic State or al Qaeda.

Sunni/Shi’a thing and all that.

al Qaeda has a running beef against Iran and Shi’a who they consider apostate.

So, if Yemen is supposedly where Trump’s going as a proxy for Iran, that’s a pretty awful place to start.

It’s still a good idea to go after AQAP and IS.

Let’s hope Russia will step in and slap some sense into Trump, because it will blow back on Putin in the meantime.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:18:35pm

re: #241 allegro

I want his t-shirt. (wouldn’t actually mind if he was still in it but that’s a whole nother subject)

That’s me, actually lol

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:19:05pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

I think Trumps next memoir should be entitled the Audacity of Grope.

I want Trump to have to write it on the walls of a rubber room with a large crayon he holds between his feet (because he is wearing a straightjacket).

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:20:07pm

re: #240 lawhawk

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Ummm…. Iran’s proxies do not include Islamic State or al Qaeda.

Sunni/Shi’a thing and all that.

al Qaeda has a running beef against Iran and Shi’a who they consider apostate.

So, if Yemen is supposedly where Trump’s going as a proxy for Iran, that’s a pretty awful place to start.

It’s still a good idea to go after AQAP and IS.

Not to mention that Al Qaeda and IS have a beef; they’ve pretty much declared jihad on each other.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:22:41pm

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Not to mention that Al Qaeda and IS have a beef; they’ve pretty much declared jihad on each other.

See I think that’s the key to beating them. Keep them focused on each other and let the problem fix itself.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:22:58pm

I can feel Allegro’s blush from CA.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:23:07pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

See I think that’s the key to beating them. Keep them focused on each other and let the problem fix itself.

Of course our Groper-in-Chief and his minions don’t seem to grasp that.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:23:13pm

re: #243 electrotek

That’s me, actually lol

Oh! Hiya! *innocent wave*

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:23:50pm

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Yup. Zawahiri stated in no uncertain terms that IS is a bunch of extremists. Considering AQ carried out the 9/11 attacks and plotted Operation Bojinka, to call IS a bunch of extremists is extraordinary.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:24:25pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

I can feel Allegro’s blush from CA.

Busted! LOL

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:24:26pm
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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:24:34pm

Since the topic of massacres ignored by the media is such a hot topic, we’re days away from the anniversary of one that actually DID occur (in the real world, not just Kellyanne’s alternate reality) and has been pretty much ignored through the years.

The Orangeburg Massacre—my page from last year:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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makeitstop  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:25:35pm

A friend on Facebook created this group: I survived the Bowling Green Massacre

Not sure if it’s private, but you might be able to check it out. Pretty funny stuff.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:26:35pm
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The GOP efforts to keep people from getting health insurance continues apace.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:27:28pm

America is already so tired of winning…

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:29:06pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Not saying you’re insecure in your manhood if you own one btw but I am saying one doesn’t need to own a gun to be comfortable in his masculinity and I resent the gun culture suggesting if you’re not goo goo for guns, you’re somehow a wuss.

Quite so. No decision about lethal weapons should be based on feelings but on a rational evaluation of the need, and of the consequences both of using the weapon and, conversely, of being unarmed. The NRA-dominated gun culture fails massively on all counts.
The probability of a threat should be evaluated, but also the probability of individually becoming a target if such a threat does appear. For example, there is almost a 100% chance of armed attacks by Trump-Bannon inspired vigilantes. What are the chances of being individually targeted though, and how good are the chances of adequately defending yourself? In our situation, today, a lot depends on where you live, as well as upon the reliability of local law enforcement. I’m at the extreme edge of the threat evaluation envelope, in a rural area but surrounded by masses of violent wingnuts from the nearby DFW metroplex, with an over-tasked sheriff, and with state law enforcement under the command of a border line fascist lunatic.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:29:35pm

re: #225 electrotek

Do you live in S. Dallas? I’m from Oak Cliff!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:30:21pm

re: #257 GlutenFreeJesus

America is already so tired of winning…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:30:27pm

re: #209 allegro

I can truthfully say that I hate the Super Bowl this year, not just cuz I hate the Pats but because my pleasant little RV park community is already starting to fill with fans going to the game. I’ve seen 3 rental RVs already and know tomorrow will be insane.

We left town last year. Drove home during the game. (I figured there would be fewer drunks on the road at that point.)

Was the best decision we could have made.

re: #217 BeachDem

That’s me. I have had a Superbowl party every time the Pats have been in it—making New England clam chowder, Yankee Potroast, Cape Codder punch, Boston Creme Pie etc. Just can’t do it this year.

But I like that guy’s idea—and will contribute to Planned Parenthood if the Pats win.

I figured you might appreciate the idea, as well as his dilemma.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:30:33pm

I just got an email from AARP with the subject line “[Allegro], Why Eating Dead Food Is Bad for Your Health”

Because live food is so hard to keep on the plate? Because the screams interfere with my digestion?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:31:17pm

re: #255 makeitstop

A friend on Facebook created this group: I survived the Bowling Green Massacre

Not sure if it’s private, but you might be able to check it out. Pretty funny stuff.

That’s really great. The Kentucky Memorial Marker is the most sophisticated meme generator ever.

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:31:19pm

re: #221 lawhawk

Pretty much concur:

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:31:39pm

Right hand doesn’t know what left hand is saying. Lying and obfuscating continues apace.

See the latest news re: number of visas revoked:

Up to 60,000 foreigners from seven majority-Muslim countries had their visas canceled after President Donald Trump’s executive order blocked them from traveling to the U.S., the State Department said Friday.

That figure contradicts a Justice Department lawyer’s statement Friday during a court hearing in Virginia about the ban. The lawyer in that case said that about 100,000 visas had been revoked.

The State Department clarified that the higher figure includes diplomatic and other visas that were actually exempted from the travel ban, as well as expired visas.

Trump’s order, issued last Friday, temporarily bans travel for people from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen. It also temporarily halts the U.S. refugee program.

60,000 or 100,000? Which is it. And what is their status if they’re currently in the US. Visa getting revoked would make those people deportable IMO. And that’s entirely the point of the Bannon/Trump policy: to get rid of Muslims from the US.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:32:14pm

re: #263 allegro

I just got an email from AARP with the subject line “[Allegro], Why Eating Dead Food Is Bad for Your Health”

Because live food is so hard to keep on the plate? Because the screams interfere with my digestion?

I’m sorry, but I couldn’t hear over the screams from my spinach.

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:32:19pm

re: #256 lawhawk

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I was tempted to not sign up again. With the promise of it being zapped ASAP I figured I could just be throwing money away for the 2 or 3 months before it was gone. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:32:35pm

re: #260 Flying Squirrel Girl

Do you live in S. Dallas? I’m from Oak Cliff!

Nah I live in Fort Worth but work near downtown Dallas. I go to that mosque in S. Dallas off Harwood for Friday afternoon prayer during my lunch break, hence the location haha

Oak Cliff? Nice! Speaking of Oak Cliff, I’ll be out at the Kessler tonight for MC 900 Ft. Jesus’s first show in 2 decades. Looking forward to it, especially since I remember watching Beavis and Butthead having commentary for the Spike Jonze-directed music video for “If I Only Had a Brain”.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:33:03pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel

Quite so. No decision about lethal weapons should be based on feelings but on a rational evaluation of the need, and of the consequences both of using the weapon and, conversely, of being unarmed. The NRA-dominated gun culture fails massively on all counts.
The probability of a threat should be evaluated, but also the probability of individually becoming a target if such a threat does appear. For example, there is almost a 100% chance of armed attacks by Trump-Bannon inspired vigilantes. What are the chances of being individually targeted though, and how good are the chances of adequately defending yourself? In our situation, today, a lot depends on where you live, as well as upon the reliability of local law enforcement. I’m at the extreme edge of the threat evaluation envelope, in a rural area but surrounded by masses of violent wingnuts from the nearby DFW metroplex, with an over-tasked sheriff, and with state law enforcement under the command of a border line fascist lunatic.

Want to work up a risk assessment for loudmouthed liberals in a small southern town whose chief of police named his kid “Nathan Bedford”?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:33:33pm

re: #268 allegro

Which is exactly what the GOP want. Erode it away until it kills itself.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:33:41pm

re: #249 allegro

Oh! Hiya! *innocent wave*

Hey hey!

And my beanie that says UR?

It represents my love of Detroit techno via Underground Resistance

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:35:15pm

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

I think Trumps next memoir should be entitled the Audacity of Grope.

I’d be just fine if it was just The Audacity!.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:35:24pm

Oh hey, Subaru might finally get around to replacing the passenger side airbag in his car this month.

Remember when we got that recall notice all the way back in July?

Hahahahahaha. (The appointment is only scheduled because he called the dealer to ask about it. Thanks to my reminder that he do so. Which we have done every two weeks or so.)

I love the car but holy crap Subaru’s customer service throughout this whole debacle has been shit.

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:37:34pm

re: #268 allegro

That’s the thing. If you sign up for 2017, they’re contractually obligated to carry through to end of year. Earliest year they can repeal coverage is 2018. Though given the way this GOP, Bannon/Trump is acting, contracts and obligations don’t mean a damn thing.

Because the GOP can’t figure out what to do, they’re fucking with the 2018 market by delaying action either way - to repeal or not. Because all these plans have to plot out their coverages and rates months in advance.

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:37:58pm

re: #240 lawhawk

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Ummm…. Iran’s proxies do not include Islamic State or al Qaeda.

Sunni/Shi’a thing and all that.

al Qaeda has a running beef against Iran and Shi’a who they consider apostate.

So, if Yemen is supposedly where Trump’s going as a proxy for Iran, that’s a pretty awful place to start.

It’s still a good idea to go after AQAP and IS.

I think he is going for the oil. Collapsing economy and government…good place to start.

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makeitstop  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:38:02pm

re: #266 lawhawk

Right hand doesn’t know what left hand is saying. Lying and obfuscating continues apace.

See the latest news re: number of visas revoked:

60,000 or 100,000? Which is it. And what is their status if they’re currently in the US. Visa getting revoked would make those people deportable IMO. And that’s entirely the point of the Bannon/Trump policy: to get rid of Muslims from the US.

Only 60,000? Well, that’s much better.
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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:38:50pm

re: #275 klys (maker of Silmarils)

100% projection. Bannon accuses US Muslims of wanting to do what the Bannon Administration is doing right now.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:39:23pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

If I had any drawing ability I ‘d have to do an illustration of Milo as Specialsnowflake Martyrman, always bravely searching for a safe space from which to attack people he disagrees with.

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:39:42pm

re: #275 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Isn’t that what Anders Breivik described liberal Jews as well in his manifesto?

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lawhawk  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:39:54pm

re: #274 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That sucks, glad you’re getting it taken care of finally. My warranty coverage on my Subaru windshield went without a hitch (got a cracked windshield that was covered under a TSB). You could write a letter in to Subaru (not the dealer, but the company) and see what kind of satisfaction you get.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:41:30pm

re: #233 Belafon

I’m not Jewish, but I believe you can get around that in certain situation, like if yours or other people’s lives are in danger.

Yes, that is the “hetter” that Jared & Ivanka obtained in order to drive around to all the Inauguration festivities, because Ivanka WOULD DIE if she didn’t get to show off all the evening gowns in her collection.
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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:42:48pm
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Soon to be known as West Facepalm Airport.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:44:56pm

Thanks everyone for the updings the other night when my housing situation improved. I may do a larger post on it, or not. Happy that I have a place to sleep in tomorrow and that I have friends here are LGF. Resting up this weekend. The fight continues.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:45:38pm

re: #281 electrotek

Isn’t that what Anders Breivik described liberal Jews as well in his manifesto?

Could be, but it’s also what Baby Whiplash Shapiro is constantly whining about. HURR HURR LIBRUL JUICE THERE NOT TEH REAL JUICE!!!!11!!

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:45:55pm

Conservative troll makes fun of Trump critic’s dead wife on Twitter, because that’s who they are.
google.com

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Kragar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:46:55pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:47:25pm

re: #282 lawhawk

That sucks, glad you’re getting it taken care of finally. My warranty coverage on my Subaru windshield went without a hitch (got a cracked windshield that was covered under a TSB). You could write a letter in to Subaru (not the dealer, but the company) and see what kind of satisfaction you get.

It’s been such a mess. We’ve actually had recall notices issued later fixed already, but this one was apparently a backlog for parts?

I probably will write a letter because it’s had a serious impact on our opinion of Subaru as a whole, despite the fact that we really like the Outbacks. (This is his second.)

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Kragar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:48:44pm
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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:48:56pm

re: #289 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s been such a mess. We’ve actually had recall notices issued later fixed already, but this one was apparently a backlog for parts?

I probably will write a letter because it’s had a serious impact on our opinion of Subaru as a whole, despite the fact that we really like the Outbacks. (This is his second.)

Damn that really sucks. I love Subarus, especially the GC8 22B’s from back in the day (late 90s), and wouldn’t mind picking up a new STI if it was fiscally justified. I always thought Subaru’s customer service would be better than other makes.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:50:12pm

re: #243 electrotek

Really? You handsome bastard!

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:52:00pm

re: #292 Jebediah, RBG

Really? You handsome bastard!

haha thank you.

Have you seen my tweets I post on here from time to time? I’ve posted my photos on here, especially my Twitter DP is me channeling my inner Vogue and “striking a pose” (which brings out the anger in wingnuts when they see it LOL).

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:52:52pm

re: #209 allegro

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Charles Johnson  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:53:29pm

LGF’s new two-factor authentication feature is nearly complete! The user interface is now finished and I’m in final testing before rolling it out. Should be ready to deploy this weekend.

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darthstar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:53:36pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:54:24pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

LGF’s new two-factor authentication feature is nearly complete! The user interface is now finished and I’m in final testing before rolling it out. Should be ready to deploy this weekend.

Sunday at 6:20 EST would be a perfect time to deploy.

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lizardofid  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:54:30pm

re: #277 ObserverArt

I think he is going for the oil. Collapsing economy and government…good place to start.

And bear in mind if they never get their hands on a drop of Yemeni or Iranian oil, the spike in the price resulting from the conflict will send profits through the roof, for them and all their friend in the business. Cough(Putin)

Not to mention defense stocks.

gahhhhh

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darthstar  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:55:12pm

re: #284 wrenchwench

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:57:09pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

I think Snowden studied political science online at Chuck Todd University, so…

I actually don’t think he’s THAT much of an idiot, just very disingenuous. I think Daddy Vladdy told him to say that.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:58:44pm

GAH

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:58:56pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

LGF’s new two-factor authentication feature is nearly complete! The user interface is now finished and I’m in final testing before rolling it out. Should be ready to deploy this weekend.

There you go again…slaving over a hot code.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:58:59pm

I’m signing off now for Sabbath which, unlike Jared & Ivanka, I actually observe but totally would call 911 like that time when Zedushka had a hypoglycemic attack.
Stay calm & watch kitten videos!

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:59:47pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Instead, I have to deal with one of my wingnut cousins posting a stupid Ronald Reagan quote how Republicans think every day is July 4 and Democrats think every day is April 15…

So Republicans think every day is a day where you sit around patting yourself on the back for how great you are while not working or doing anything to actually make America better, and Democrats think every day is a where you work and contribute to society so that we can maybe try being all those things we brag about on the 4th?

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 1:59:51pm

re: #299 darthstar

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:02:05pm

re: #305 BeachDem

So, did they swing by NY to pick up Melania or does she have to find another way to FL ?(double the pleasure; double the cost)

How can Trump have fun with Melania?

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:03:36pm

re: #276 lawhawk

That’s the thing. If you sign up for 2017, they’re contractually obligated to carry through to end of year. Earliest year they can repeal coverage is 2018. Though given the way this GOP, Bannon/Trump is acting, contracts and obligations don’t mean a damn thing.

Because the GOP can’t figure out what to do, they’re fucking with the 2018 market by delaying action either way - to repeal or not. Because all these plans have to plot out their coverages and rates months in advance.

I didn’t know that re: the contractual agreement through the end of the year. Even if I had I still don’t trust it for the reasons you state. Laws aren’t stopping them thus far.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:03:37pm

re: #293 electrotek

I have seen them, don’t know why I didn’t notice that.

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darthstar  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:04:58pm

re: #305 BeachDem

So, did they swing by NY to pick up Melania or does she have to find another way to FL ?(double the pleasure; double the cost)

My guess is she hates Florida and doesn’t always go.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:07:36pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

I can feel Allegro’s blush from CA.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:07:45pm

So I see we’ve pretty much officially become a third-world country now. I’m guessing we’ll be a theocracy before the year is out, but by all means—SQUIRREL!!—let’s keep worrying about the scary Muslims who’re coming to kill us and steal our way of life.

Creeping Sharia is here, they just neglected to mention it’s the Christian kind, which is totally okay because that’s good Sharia. Don’t fret though, the righteous Christians will protect you from the Muslim menace. Onward Christian soldiers!

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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:08:33pm

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

Stay calm & watch kitten videos!

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Bait and switch! It’s a puppy video!

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:08:42pm

LOL so many snowflakes crying about Depeche Mode “suddenly turning political” with their new song

Depeche Mode - Where’s the Revolution (Audio)

I’ll have to copy-and-paste what my buddy said (who is the BIGGEST Depeche Mode I know of) to drop the gauntlet on clueless DM fans who don’t know anything:

My boys in black catching some flack from SOME people for “suddenly” being political.
a)DM has ALWAYS been political since Martin took over in 1982. The entire “Construction Time Again” album is a social-political statement. Much of “A Broken Frame” is. “New Dress” is about political manipulation of the media, “Master and Servant”, “People are People”…..on and on
b)This song was recorded, finished, and publicly previewed in October. Well before the election. It just so happened that it panned out the way Martin predicted.
c) It may seem overt to some because instead of hiding the meaning of his lyrics in metaphor and grey area interpretation, he chose a straight forward, no mistake, “this is my stance” approach.
People being bothered by this pretty much means they arent smart enough to read between the lines, or havent really been paying attention to Martins lyrics over the last 30 years….like…at all.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:09:33pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

GAH

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If it was simply a “business trip” why was Uday doing interviews with local media talking about politics and having a song written and performed about dear old dad?

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allegro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:11:05pm

re: #294 Ace Rothstein

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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:12:12pm
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I can’t vouch for anything here, but it looks good:

The entirety of the money from your purchase of this print will be a donation to one of three organizations of your choice (Planned Parenthood, International Refugee Assistance Project, or Sacred Stone Legal Defense Fund)

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Amory Blaine  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:12:13pm

re: #287 DodgerFan1988

Conservative troll makes fun of Trump critic’s dead wife on Twitter, because that’s who they are.
google.com

Try understanding them harder!!

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:12:48pm

re: #309 darthstar

My guess is she hates Florida and doesn’t always go.

I just thought I’d seen that she would be there for the big Red Cross shindig this weekend (you know, the one that the Red Cross pays
$400,000 to Trump to hold at Mar a Lago)

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InfidelOfFreedom  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:14:17pm

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ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:16:42pm

re: #311 CuriousLurker

So I see we’ve pretty much officially become a third-world country now. I’m guessing we’ll be a theocracy before the year is out, but by all means—SQUIRREL!!—let’s keep worrying about the scary Muslims who’re coming to kill us and steal our way of life.

Creeping Sharia is here, they just neglected to mention it’s the Christian kind, which is totally okay because that’s good Sharia. Don’t fret though, the righteous Christians will protect you from the Muslim menace. Onward Christian soldiers!

You know, I can’t remember who it was right now, but I did hear someone say the other day America is actually involved in a new crusade. They meant it in a sarcastic way…but ugh.

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BeachDem  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:19:06pm

re: #317 Amory Blaine

Try understanding them harder!!

Also this guy—(Republican Party county officer)

Tweets out “Violent protestors who shut down free speech? Time for another Kent State perhaps, One bullet stops a lot of thuggery.”

But oops—“Taking a lot of heat for a very poorly worded tweet yesterday,” he wrote. “Sorry folks, the intent was to try to stop the violence, not encourage more.”

Yeah—because suggesting a bullet is always a way to stop violence.

Let me just walk around in his shoes for awhile—nah, I don’t think so.

rawstory.com

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CuriousLurker  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:23:21pm

re: #320 ObserverArt

You know, I can’t remember who it was right now, but I did hear someone say the other day America is actually involved in a new crusade. They meant it in a sarcastic way…but ugh.

Ugh indeed. WaPo was writing about the Christian Shariah thing this morning.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:25:46pm

re: #317 Amory Blaine

Try understanding them harder!!

Hah. Trump voters voted for a piece of shit to be president.

It’s not my job to assist those voters in their denial of this fact or in their deflections away from its implications as to their impaired reasoning and moral depravity.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:40:03pm

re: #311 CuriousLurker

The last time Sharia Christians ran the country we had lots of people burned at the stake (mainly women, of course).

I think stoning is in for a comeback here too.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:40:48pm

re: #314 BeachDem

If it was simply a “business trip” why was Uday doing interviews with local media talking about politics and having a song written and performed about dear old dad?

Because who the hell is going to do anything about it?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:42:14pm
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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:42:34pm

re: #325 Skip Intro

The last time Sharia Christians ran the country we had lots of people burned at the stake (mainly women, of course).

I think stoning is in for a comeback here too.

You know how bad anti-LBGT violence has been in Brazil in the past few years, thanks to the importation of Evangelical Christianity?

It’s VERY bad!

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ericblair  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:43:07pm

re: #324 EPR-radar

Hah. Trump voters voted for a piece of shit to be president.

It’s not my job to assist those voters in their denial of this fact or in their deflections away from its implications as to their impaired reasoning and moral depravity.

Some people just need to be told that there’s dogshit on the sidewalk and they’ll avoid it. Some people need to actually see the dogshit before they pay attention. And then there’s the people who need their noses shoved in a pile of dogshit and rubbed into it for ten minutes before they might just consider there’s dogshit around.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:43:36pm

re: #322 BeachDem

Also this guy—(Republican Party county officer)

Tweets out “Violent protestors who shut down free speech? Time for another Kent State perhaps, One bullet stops a lot of thuggery.”

But oops—“Taking a lot of heat for a very poorly worded tweet yesterday,” he wrote. “Sorry folks, the intent was to try to stop the violence, not encourage more.”

Yeah—because suggesting a bullet is always a way to stop violence.

Let me just walk around in his shoes for awhile—nah, I don’t think so.

rawstory.com

I’m sick of these assholes. They also want motorists to be able to run over protesters. Gotta say this much, as much as the Westboro assohles and the anti-abortion ones bother me, it would NOT be okay to run them over. But I get it, the right is actually threatened by the first amendment but pretends to be concerned about it when poor widdle fascist toadies like Spencer and Milo get their fee wees hurt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:44:18pm

re: #328 electrotek

Maybe the U.S. will get its own Kill The Gays bill.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:45:03pm

re: #327 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Oh, that conservative support of limited government and individual rights. Really fine charities for taking in refugees? Fuck these assholes. That is exactly why I refuse to “empathize” with them. Motherfuckers literally want to fine people for taking in people from war torn nations. Not even the isolationists in the lead up to WWII were so cold hearetd,

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:46:02pm

You have to feel sorry for Ann Coulter. How is she going to get noticed now that the Trump Big Ball of Hate has moved into town?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:46:29pm

re: #328 electrotek

You know how bad anti-LBGT violence has been in Brazil in the past few years, thanks to the importation of Evangelical Christianity?

It’s VERY bad!

Evangelical Christianity is why anti-LGBT violence has also increased in Africa. There was a great document on this, God Loves Uganda about the role that the fundie churches have had importing hate of gays to Uganda in particular. A lot of it is because they realize they lost that battle here so they’re going elsewhere.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:46:58pm

re: #327 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The GOP are doing a fantastic job of turning Refugee into a new dirty word. As if other countries are putting a gun to Americas head and forcing us to take their undesirables.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:47:05pm

re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe the U.S. will get its own Kill The Gays bill.

I think that sound heard was Mike Pence orgasm.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:47:46pm

The same people who insist we need to be a more “Christian” nation want to punish private entities for taking into refugees. Consider that for a second.

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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:48:07pm

re: #327 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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It’s now a state’s rights issue to be able to keep people from moving in. Of course it’s Arizona leading the way on that one. One of those ‘retirement communities’ would make a great refugee housing arrangement. Move them in in July, when all the white wusses think it’s too hot and they’re at home in the midwest or wherever.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:49:21pm

re: #338 HappyWarrior

The same people who insist we need to be a more “Christian” nation want to punish private entities for taking into refugees. Consider that for a second.

Yeah, it’s not like Jesus ever risked anything to do something charitable for others.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:49:23pm

re: #327 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Daniel Dale ✔ @ddale8
Wow. Arizona Republicans want to fine local charities $1,000 a day for every refugee they help settle in the state.

Devils walk the Earth, and some of them are probably members in good standing at local (fundy) churches.

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:50:18pm

re: #313 electrotek

LOL so many snowflakes crying about Depeche Mode “suddenly turning political” with their new song

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I’ll have to copy-and-paste what my buddy said (who is the BIGGEST Depeche Mode I know of) to drop the gauntlet on clueless DM fans who don’t know anything:

Aye. Like, listen to the actual lyrics of this one:

Depeche Mode - People Are People (Remastered Video)


Yes, song chosen intentionally

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William Lewis  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:50:35pm

re: #325 Skip Intro

The last time Sharia Christians ran the country we had lots of people burned at the stake (mainly women, of course).

I think stoning is in for a comeback here too.

Well, no, we never burned people here. The Massachusetts Bay colony used hanging as it’s form of execution and pressing under enormous weight as it’s form of “enhanced interrogation”. Not to diminish the evil perpetuation “In Nomine” but let’s keep the history accurate.

Salem Witch Trials

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:50:41pm

Sir Nicholas Winton - BBC Programme “That’s Life” aired in 1988
Reposting. This is probably one of the most moving things I’ve seen. I literally get goosebumps watching it. Who will be the Nicholas Winton for the refugees of today?

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weave  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:51:35pm

re: #296 darthstar

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As a comment said on the Blowing Green Massacre Facebook page…

We are in the age of alternate terrorism

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:52:09pm

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel

Devils walk the Earth, and some of them are probably members in good standing at local (fundy) churches.

The Devil’s greatest deception wasn’t to make people think he doesn’t exist, but rather to make them believe that he himself is God.

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:53:29pm

re: #342 Teukka

Lyrics BTW:
People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
So we’re different colours
And we’re different creeds
And different people have different needs
It’s obvious you hate me
Though I’ve done nothing wrong
I never even met you
So what could I have done
I can’t understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
Help me understand
Now you’re punching and you’re kicking
And you’re shouting at me
I’m relying on your common decency
So far it hasn’t surfaced
But I’m sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fist
I can’t understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
Songwriters: Martin Gore
People Are People lyrics (c) Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:54:27pm

re: #21 lawhawk

As to why Trump is removing Secret Service people near him? This comes to mind.

The Missiles Are Flying - The Dead Zone (9/10) Movie CLIP (1983) HD

No sane person would let Trump do this so he’s surrounding himself with people as nuts as he is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:54:55pm

In a way, I think the fundies are right, we have lost our morality as a people but not for the reason they think. It’s not because of legalized abortion, same sex marriage, or other religious beliefs being acceptable. No, it’s because it’s become more acceptable to turn someone away because you don’t like their religion, their sexual orientation, their nationality, etc.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:56:08pm

re: #240 lawhawk

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Ummm…. Iran’s proxies do not include Islamic State or al Qaeda.

Sunni/Shi’a thing and all that.

al Qaeda has a running beef against Iran and Shi’a who they consider apostate.

So, if Yemen is supposedly where Trump’s going as a proxy for Iran, that’s a pretty awful place to start.

It’s still a good idea to go after AQAP and IS.

Yemen’s Houthi rebels are a Shiite faction and are in fact heavily supported by Iran. They attacked two US destroyers with missiles back in October and we fired back.

WASHINGTON — An American warship stationed off the coast of Yemen fired cruise missiles on Thursday at radar installations that the Pentagon said had been used by Yemeni insurgents to target another American warship in two missile attacks in the last four days.

The strikes against the Houthi rebels marked the first time the United States has become involved militarily in the civil war between the Houthis, an indigenous Shiite group with loose connections to Iran, and the Yememi government, which is backed by Saudi Arabia and other Sunni nations. The strikes were approved by President Obama, said Peter Cook, the Pentagon spokesman, who warned of more to come if American ships were fired upon again.

There’s reason to think the missiles fired from Houthi territory were sourced from Iran.

The missiles fired on Sunday were variants of the so-called Silkworm missile, and both also fell harmlessly into the water. The Silkworm is a type of coastal defense cruise missile that Iran has been known to use, and the Iran has backed the Shiite Houthi rebels.

The problem with targeting the Houthis however is that, like in Syria, we’re picking sides in a shit show that has no conceivable “good” outcome. Either way we slice it getting involved means we’re putting our thumb on the scale either for fanatical Al-Qaeda aligned, Saudi backed Sunnis, or for Houthi rebels backed by Iran.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:57:04pm

re: #343 William Lewis

Well, no, we never burned people here. The Massachusetts Bay colony used hanging as it’s form of execution and pressing under enormous weight as it’s form of “enhanced interrogation”. Not to diminish the evil perpetuation “In Nomine” but let’s keep the history accurate.

Salem Witch Trials

That you for the correction.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:58:47pm

re: #351 Nyet

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Sounds like a poor tweet, referring to a crowd of 25,000 present today. Twitter is good for bumper stickers.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 2:59:29pm

re: #346 Arkansawyer

That’s what I’ve been trying to tell people!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:00:31pm

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Sounds like a poor tweet, referring to a crowd of 25,000 present today. Twitter is good for bumper stickers.

I challenge you to make a 140 character bumper sticker that is readable from more than 6 feet and doesn’t cover the back of the car.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:00:46pm

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Sounds like a poor tweet, referring to a crowd of 25,000 present today. Twitter is good for bumper stickers.

Actually, I think the # they’re fact checking is the prisoner number in the sign? Not the crowd size.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:02:44pm

re: #354 Jebediah, RBG

That’s what I’ve been trying to tell people!

My soon to be mother in law has gotten in with the property gospel crowd. We’re considering an intervention.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:03:08pm

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Sounds like a poor tweet, referring to a crowd of 25,000 present today. Twitter is good for bumper stickers.

Well, I can’t blame the guy for not factchecking her alleged number, but I positively love how the guy behind the Au. Museum twitter account factchecks everything on the fly.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:04:32pm

re: #351 Nyet

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What if the 2 in her sign was just a transcription error and was originally a Z, designating a Roma prisoner?

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:04:51pm

re: #357 Arkansawyer

Oy, and good luck!

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:05:52pm

re: #359 goddamnedfrank

What if the 2 in her sign was just a transcription error and was originally a Z, designating a Roma prisoner?

Also, the tattoos were not always of the best quality….

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:06:13pm

re: #359 goddamnedfrank

What if the 2 in her sign was just a transcription error and was originally a Z, designating a Roma prisoner?

Nope.

ushmm.org

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:06:22pm

re: #355 Blind Frog Belly White

I challenge you to make a 140 character bumper sticker that is readable from more than 6 feet and doesn’t cover the back of the car.
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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:06:55pm

re: #361 Teukka

Also, the tattoos were not always of the best quality….

Also, some people lie.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:08:04pm

re: #358 Nyet

Well, I can’t blame the guy for not factchecking her alleged number, but I positively love how the guy behind the Au. Museum twitter account factchecks everything on the fly.

Responded to the text before I opened the pic.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:09:23pm

re: #356 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Actually, I think the # they’re fact checking is the prisoner number in the sign? Not the crowd size.

I remember Obama getting in some bother because he said, based on family recollections, that his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz. It turned out it wasn’t Auschwitz, but rather Ohrdruf, a camp associated with Buchenwald.

One wonders how much gets distorted as it goes from family member to family member, especially if the person who experienced it originally doesn’t like talking about it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:11:17pm

Speaking of the camps. When I’m in Germany this summer, we’re seeing Sachsenhausen. I hope it can be an educational experience for my brother as was my visit to Dachau I made when I was 20.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:11:19pm

re: #359 goddamnedfrank

What if the 2 in her sign was just a transcription error and was originally a Z, designating a Roma prisoner?

Note the tweet refers to ‘25,000’, the sign to 240,000+

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:11:23pm

re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember Obama getting in some bother because he said, based on family recollections, that his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz. It turned out it wasn’t Auschwitz, but rather Ohrdruf, a camp associated with Buchenwald.

One wonders how much gets distorted as it goes from family member to family member, especially if the person who experienced it originally doesn’t like talking about it.

Yeah. “Band of Brothers” has a sequence of such an event, and it’s sanitized to hell and back but still causes triggers for people.
Spoilered for that reason.

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Band of Brothers- Liberation of Concentration Camp

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:12:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:12:44pm

re: #363 Decatur Deb

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X - covers back of vehicle.

Reminds me of the street person we used to call ‘Paragraph Lady’, because she’d camp out at El Camino and Ralston with 2’x 3 boards covered in 4” high letters, all the same size and no way to read it as you passed.

That was bad enough, black paint on yellow background. Then she started using silver paint on the same yellow background.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:13:20pm

re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember Obama getting in some bother because he said, based on family recollections, that his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz. It turned out it wasn’t Auschwitz, but rather Ohrdruf, a camp associated with Buchenwald.

One wonders how much gets distorted as it goes from family member to family member, especially if the person who experienced it originally doesn’t like talking about it.

That’s certainly possible. Sergey is right that people do lie but some times things do get forgotten especially if as you say the family member in question doesn’t like talking about it. In any case, I did like seeing one story from one of my cousins about a synagogue that opened its doors up to members of a mosque whose mosque burned down.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:13:39pm

re: #369 Teukka

Yeah. “Band of Brothers” has a sequence of such an event, and it’s sanitized to hell and back but still causes triggers for people.
Spoilered for that reason.

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For 60 years, the story in my family had my father dying in the wrong aircraft, in the wrong theatre of war, on the wrong day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:13:45pm

*snerk*

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weave  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:13:47pm

Sigh — so I use a To Do list manager program called “ToDoist” — I love it. It integrates nicely with my email client — and even my Amazon Alexa. So they recently posted a blog post in support of immigrants.

So you know what happened. The comment section is filled with offended RWNJs saying that they are canceling their premium subscriptions and uninstalling the app.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:14:58pm

re: #369 Teukka

Yeah. “Band of Brothers” has a sequence of such an event, and it’s sanitized to hell and back but still causes triggers for people.
Spoilered for that reason.

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God can you imagine being a soldier especially a Jewish one and discovering one of those camps? We knew the Nazis were bastards before the camps were discovered but seeing that. Man, I don’t know how I’d react especially if I encountered German POWs not long after. I’m NOT saying I’d shoot them but I don’t know if I’d be able to restrain my anger.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:15:16pm

re: #375 weave

Sigh — so I use a To Do list manager program called “ToDoist” — I love it. It integrates nicely with my email client — and even my Amazon Alexa. So they recently posted a blog post in support of immigrants.

So you know what happened. The comment section is filled with offended RWNJs saying that they are canceling their premium subscriptions and uninstalling the app.

Guess I will renew even though I’m using paper for most of my daily tracking. It’s still good for general tracking, I just need to figure out how to integrate it better.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:17:10pm

re: #368 Decatur Deb

Note the tweet refers to ‘25,000’, the sign to 240,000+

Which is not explainable by any kind of a “poor quality tattoo” argument btw since we would expect at least the right number of digits, and female numbers in Au. never reached 100000…

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:17:26pm

Trump Wants Female Staffers to ‘Dress Like Women’

You’ve been warned.

msn.com

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:18:34pm

re: #378 Nyet

Which is not explainable by any kind of a “poor quality tattoo” argument btw since we would expect at least the right number of digits, and female numbers in Au. never reached 100000…

That’s why I’m not sure the tweet is actually referring to the sign number. It’s off by X10.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:20:26pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

*snerk*

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Terrorists were involved in that?! THOSE BASTARDS!1!!

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:20:50pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

As I was reading the pretrial docs of the Frankfurt Auschwitz trial, there was one interrogation where a man claimed to have been an inmate with a ridiculously high number (like 400000 something). The investigators pointed that out to him but he never admitted that he was, ahem, fantasizing.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:21:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:22:23pm

re: #383 goddamnedfrank

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Isn’t Todd one of the stupider ones?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:23:13pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

God can you imagine being a soldier especially a Jewish one and discovering one of those camps? We knew the Nazis were bastards before the camps were discovered but seeing that. Man, I don’t know how I’d react especially if I encountered German POWs not long after. I’m NOT saying I’d shoot them but I don’t know if I’d be able to restrain my anger.

The concentration camp episode of BoB is fairly intense. Far less intense than the reality, of course.

Click to Reveal

Early in the episode, it shows the guys clearing a town, going from house to house, and, as soldiers have done since forever, grabbing valuables and souvenirs. In one particularly luxurious place, the lady of the house catches one of them stealing her stuff, and silently stares at him with icy disdain. He meets her eye momentarily, then looks away, ashamed.

Later, after the camp has been found and the locals drafted to bury the dead, the same soldier sees the woman on burial detail. This time her face is full of shame and anguish and it’s she who looks away.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:23:17pm

re: #380 Decatur Deb

That’s why I’m not sure the tweet is actually referring to the sign number. It’s off by X10.

The first tweet is referring to an allegedly Jewish woman whose granma was in Au. (though later the author confesses that he made the photo of a lady he didn’t know, so how would he know she’s Jewish?).

The second tweet points out the impossibility of the claimed number on the sign.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:23:37pm

Does Dodd-Frank have to go through Congress?

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:24:32pm

re: #373 Decatur Deb

For 60 years, the story in my family had my father dying in the wrong aircraft, in the wrong theatre of war, on the wrong day.

For the this reason? O.O

re: #376 HappyWarrior

God can you imagine being a soldier especially a Jewish one and discovering one of those camps? We knew the Nazis were bastards before the camps were discovered but seeing that. Man, I don’t know how I’d react especially if I encountered German POWs not long after. I’m NOT saying I’d shoot them but I don’t know if I’d be able to restrain my anger.

Can you imagine coming from a country which was allied with the 3rd reich during WWII? There is a reason why Finlands formal state of war with Germany lasted until 1956(sic(!)). There is a reason why many finnish kids still get taught to recognize the beast fascism from miles away. There is a reason why even Timo Soini, far-right politician in Finland, basically thinks President Clownface von Fuckstick should go fuck himself re: a certain decision.

And still the marks on the right think I’m overreacting, that it’s not the same. But us finns, we’ve seen the movie, we know how it ends…

In Fire

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:27:18pm

BTW here’s a nice article on the guy behind the Au. twitter account:

jta.org

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Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:27:49pm

re: #388 Teukka

???

#373 refers to the unreliability of detail in stories passed down, like that of Obama’s uncle.

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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:28:34pm

re: #390 Decatur Deb

???

#373 refers to the unreliability of detail in stories passed down, like that of Obama’s uncle.

Ah.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:29:25pm

re: #389 Nyet

And this article has Charles’ tweet :D

jta.org

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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:30:06pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

Trump Wants Female Staffers to ‘Dress Like Women’

You’ve been warned.

msn.com

I was warned by the hashtag.

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I was also warned by my junior high, which sent me home to change, because my cutoffs were too cut. Actually, they took me home, because my mom would not come and get me so I could change to make them happy.

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William Lewis  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:30:36pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

God can you imagine being a soldier especially a Jewish one and discovering one of those camps? We knew the Nazis were bastards before the camps were discovered but seeing that. Man, I don’t know how I’d react especially if I encountered German POWs not long after. I’m NOT saying I’d shoot them but I don’t know if I’d be able to restrain my anger.

At the liberation of Dachau, US Soldiers summarily executed ~50 German guards.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t say I blame them.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:31:33pm

re: #394 William Lewis

At the liberation of Dachau, US Soldiers summarily executed ~50 German guards.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t say I blame them.

The soldiers should have been court-martialed. Murder is murder.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:31:35pm

Florida pastor flees naked after being caught with man’s wife, cops say

And this is why churches have to be kept tax exempt and be allowed a political voice, because who among us hasn’t found themselves in exactly the same situation?

clickorlando.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:31:52pm

re: #394 William Lewis

At the liberation of Dachau, US Soldiers summarily executed ~50 German guards.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t say I blame them.

And Dachau wasn’t an extermination camp.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:33:32pm

Heh.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:36:04pm
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Teukka  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:36:51pm

re: #397 Blind Frog Belly White

And Dachau wasn’t an extermination camp.

Neither was Buchenwald. And still, it was harsh enough an experience for the mayor of Ohrdruf and his wife to commit suicide after being forced to tour a subcamp of Buchenwald.

Let that sink in.

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John Hughes  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:38:03pm

re: #114 Arkansawyer

It was taught by a guy who comes from a long line of British paratroopers and marines. We covered the IRA in depth.

But nothing about the MRF? The SRU?

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:39:53pm

re: #384 Decatur Deb

Isn’t Todd one of the stupider ones?

Put him, Blitzer, Hannity, and the Fox morning crew together in a room and you’ll have achieved negative IQ.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:41:10pm

re: #393 wrenchwench

I was warned by the hashtag.

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I was also warned by my junior high, which sent me home to change, because my cutoffs were too cut. Actually, they took me home, because my mom would not come and get me so I could change to make them happy.

I think he’s telling them to buy Ivanka’s clothes, for sale exclusively in the WH gift shop.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:41:49pm

Benny doesn’t look too good.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:46:55pm

re: #401 John Hughes

But nothing about the MRF? The SRU?

Hard to cover the IRA without those being included. He was supposed to follow the family profession, but he decided to spend some time in N. Ireland to see it for himself. He got to know the people and decided he couldn’t join up after living with them for months. He left for the US soon after. He works for the State Dept. last I heard. Might have resigned given current events.

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wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:53:23pm

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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Separation of home and school would help us maintain separation of church and state?

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MsJ  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:55:30pm

re: #14 jaunte

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:56:15pm

re: #406 Charles Johnson

Ugh, sounds like Pakistan post-Zia. Never thought America would fall under the same spiel.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:58:24pm

re: #410 goddamnedfrank

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darthstar  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:58:27pm

Trump shows off his Pokemon collection.

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Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2017 • 3:59:18pm

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darthstar  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:00:49pm

re: #413 Skip Intro

He shares nothing in common with JFK.

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stpaulbear  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:00:53pm

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:02:18pm

re: #413 Skip Intro

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That car is simply asking to get keyed and tires slashed.

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fern01  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:03:05pm

re: #2 lawhawk

Pace yourself? He certainly isn’t.

He wants to see if he can reach record low favorabilities.

I wouldn’t trust the polls on anything to do with trump - many who say “not favorable” are no doubt very happy with what he is doing. As long as he undoes everything the black guy did, regardless of its impact, they will be happy.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:06:59pm
I don’t remember any other March with such international participation. It was a unique feeling to be part of that day. Knowing that people, not just women, were gathered all over the globe at the same time for the same reason.

Was the Women’s March the Largest Mass Protest in American History?

Please add your comments —shameless Pages Promotion.

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ipsos  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:07:35pm

re: #413 Skip Intro

Ah, Florida Man at his finest.

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EPR-radar  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:10:23pm

re: #419 ipsos

Ah, Florida Man at his finest.

Yes, the Christian Fish, and disabled person license plate really set up the inevitable hypocrisy perfectly. This Trump supporter is bound straight for Hell on any reasonable reading of Christian doctrine, and most likely rails against government ‘handouts’ and ‘over-regulation’ while benefitting from them.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:10:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:10:43pm

re: #394 William Lewis

At the liberation of Dachau, US Soldiers summarily executed ~50 German guards.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t say I blame them.

As I said, I have no idea how I’d react..

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:11:46pm

re: #413 Skip Intro

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I for one would welcome the actual 35th President. Ike dead is better than Trump alive.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:12:00pm

Inside the mind of a Trump supporter.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:12:50pm

re: #424 goddamnedfrank

Inside the mind of a Trump supporter.

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But all those Attorneys General had every right to sue the federal government over Obamacare.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:13:02pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Evangelical Christianity is why anti-LGBT violence has also increased in Africa. There was a great document on this, God Loves Uganda about the role that the fundie churches have had importing hate of gays to Uganda in particular. A lot of it is because they realize they lost that battle here so they’re going elsewhere.

Yes, Uganda has a terrible reputation now over LGBT rights —all because of white evangelicals …

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:13:33pm

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I for one would welcome the actual 35th President. Ike dead is better than Trump alive.

Zombie Ike for POTUS?

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electrotek  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:13:42pm

re: #426 Birth Control Works

Yes, Uganda has a terrible reputation now over LGBT rights —all because of white evangelicals …

If Milo is so brave, why won’t he go down to Uganda, Russia, or Brazil and fight for LGBT rights there?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:14:27pm

re: #426 Birth Control Works

Yes, Uganda has a terrible reputation now over LGBT rights —all because of white evangelicals …

Who like to show gay porn to enrage the populace.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:14:40pm

re: #427 Birth Control Works

Zombie Ike for POTUS?

Yes I’ll even take the Zombie Nixon VP part of the deal.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:15:41pm

re: #430 HappyWarrior

Yes I’ll even take the Zombie Nixon VP part of the deal.

Futurama: Nixons Back HD

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wheat-dogg  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:15:59pm

re: #263 allegro

I just got an email from AARP with the subject line “[Allegro], Why Eating Dead Food Is Bad for Your Health”

Because live food is so hard to keep on the plate? Because the screams interfere with my digestion?

Elderly Klingons eat gagh every day for breakfast and live to be 200, assuming they are not killed in a dynastic purge or something.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:16:09pm

re: #428 electrotek

If Milo is so brave, why won’t he go down to Uganda, Russia, or Brazil and fight for LGBT rights there?

Because he is against LGBT rights.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:16:10pm

re: #426 Birth Control Works

Yes, Uganda has a terrible reputation now over LGBT rights —all because of white evangelicals …

I wouldn’t say it was solely the white evangelicals but it’s certainly true that homophobia wasn’t as prevalent there before people like Scott Lively and his band of hateful assholes arrived. The documentary was really good. One of the prominent people interviewed is a Episcopal bishop who fights against the homophobia.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:16:31pm

re: #431 Timothy Watson

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:17:13pm

re: #433 Nyet

Because he is against LGBT rights.

Sergey can you provide me some documentation of him being antisemitic? Need to show to someone.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:18:25pm

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Sergey can you provide me some documentation of him being antisemitic? Need to show to someone.

I’m not sure he is antisemitic, but his early poems contain some stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:20:56pm

re: #437 Nyet

I’m not sure he is antisemitic, but his early poems contain some stuff.

Oh okay, thanks.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:21:12pm

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Sergey can you provide me some documentation of him being antisemitic? Need to show to someone.

Is The Forward a reputable source?

Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos lobbed anti-Semitic insults at a BuzzFeed reporter in a talk in December, given as part of his “Dangerous Faggot” tour of American college campuses.

Yiannopoulos told fans at Minnesota State University that Joe Bernstein, a media writer at BuzzFeed News, represents “a typical example of a sort of thick-as-pig shit media Jew, who has all these sort of right, P.C. politics.”

forward.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:23:07pm

re: #439 Timothy Watson

Is The Forward a reputable source?

forward.com

Yep, that helps. Just saw this on my Facebook feed since one of my FB friends “liked” this. It’s a picture of Milo posing with a gun and this caption:
“Some big announcements coming early next week about my book, next speaking slots and various other things. 2017 is the year of MILO. Thank you for joining me on the journey. We are wrecking social justice together — and saving the First Amendment”
Fucking fools falling head over heels for a self promoting douchebag who would sell them down the river if he thought it would get him good publicity.

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Nyet  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:23:32pm

re: #439 Timothy Watson

Oh that’s something new, heh.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:27:15pm

re: #393 wrenchwench

I was warned by the hashtag.

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I was also warned by my junior high, which sent me home to change, because my cutoffs were too cut. Actually, they took me home, because my mom would not come and get me so I could change to make them happy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:27:48pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Yeah Prague’s great. Norweigan food really doesn’t get me excited either. I like seafood but lutefish doesn’t sound too appealing.

Any food that requires lye as an essential preparation ingredient should make anyone suspicious (looking at you hominy in addition to lutefisk)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:28:24pm

re: #442 Birth Control Works

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Iggy’s cool. Saw a brief Q/A section with him in a Rolling Stone a few weeks back. He’s a lot better than that other guy from Michigan around the same age who is constantly calling people parasites.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:29:15pm

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any food that requires lye as an essential preparation ingredient should make anyone suspicious (looking at you hominy in addition to lutefisk)

Good rule.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:29:57pm

re: #415 stpaulbear

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Birth Control Works  Feb 3, 2017 • 4:33:51pm

Now we know why Ivanka looks like a Barbie Doll —she doesn’t have a choice.

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stpaulbear  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:15:29pm

re: #446 Birth Control Works

so stealing this

Go ahead. That’s how I got it.

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RexMundi  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:29:35pm

Why….why why why did I up my contribution to my 401(k) last week? I’m thinking I should just keep cash in a mattress.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:39:34pm

re: #450 RexMundi

Why….why why why did I up my contribution to my 401(k) last week? I’m thinking I should just keep cash in a mattress.

Doesn’t keep up with inflation. At least stick it in bonds.

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RexMundi  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:42:48pm

re: #451 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m scared of bonds, too. I’m thinking my 401(k) will tank, hence cash in a mattress won’t gain, but it won’t lose (as much), too.

But then again, what if Trump’s naive economic views allow him to pull some hyperinflation where my mattress stash is needed to buy a loaf of bread?

I’m turning paranoid. :/

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:45:32pm

re: #452 RexMundi

I’m scared of bonds, too. I’m thinking my 401(k) will tank, hence cash in a mattress won’t gain, but it won’t lose (as much), too.

But then again, what if Trump’s naive economic views allow him to pull some hyperinflation where my mattress stash is needed to buy a loaf of bread?

I’m turning paranoid. :/

What’s your timeline?

Emotional decisions are the shittiest sort. The best way to invest is regular contributions to leverage dollar cost averaging. I work hard to keep my emotional decisions away from the actual money decisions.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 5:59:37pm

re: #442 Birth Control Works

oh how I love Iggy Pop.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 3, 2017 • 6:00:40pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Cool? Iggy’s a fucking god. In my (obviously correct) opinion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 6:22:25pm

re: #359 goddamnedfrank

What if the 2 in her sign was just a transcription error and was originally a Z, designating a Roma prisoner?

Still too high a number. I know this because my grandfather was Roma.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2017 • 6:32:05pm

re: #428 electrotek

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John Hughes  Feb 3, 2017 • 11:38:19pm

re: #405 Arkansawyer

Hard to cover the IRA without those being included.

Ok, then he’s a pretty good guy. We in the UK heard almost nothing about that at the time — we knew the UVF and UDA existed, but the idea that huge amounts of the shit that the UVF was doing was actually being done by the army was kept pretty quiet.

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John Hughes  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:05:01am

re: #240 lawhawk

If Trump is going to go after Iran’s proxies in Yemen then AlQ are your allies.


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