Trump Horror, Day 15: Federal Judge Halts Trump’s Muslim Ban

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Don’t you just love how the media are obediently adopting Trump’s own deceptive name for his ban on Muslims entering the US? “Travel ban” sounds so much better than what it really is, a Muslim ban.

But at least today we have some good news about this unconstitutional horror: a federal judge has ordered a nationwide halt to the ban.

A temporary restraining order, that is, and you can be sure Trump’s goons will challenge it quickly, because these kinds of oppressive measures are important in building the autocracy Trump wants.

The tiny-fisted fascist immediately fired up his cell phone and ranted like a standard right wing moron on Twitter, of course, mocking Federal Judge James Robart, a George W. Bush appointee, as a “so-called judge.”

UPDATE at 2/4/17 10:40:23 am by Charles Johnson

Here’s Judge Robart’s order:

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350 comments

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Myron Falwell  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:30:28am

Reposted from downstairs:

re: #390 Anymouse

Has Richard Spencer been reported to Twitter yet, or are the libertarian dudebros that run it hiding behind Freeze Peach?

If Holocaust denial can’t be held as criminal, how could something significantly lesser like doxxing be held that way? Both seek to harass their targets.

Do remember that Rage Furby’s WeSearchR got permabanned when they threatened to doxx the guy hero who punched Spencer in the face.

Spencer is setting up the victim card to roll with at any point.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:32:39am

The Lefsetz Letter: Why we’ve Got no Protest Songs

1. Mariah Carey

Bob Dylan looked up to Woody Guthrie, today’s nitwits admire Mariah Carey. That’s right, she hit almost three decades ago and dominated the nineties and what was her message? Empty hedonism. Sung by a woman with great pipes. So, that’s who today’s TV contestants emulate. They figure someone else will write the songs, after all if you know how to sing… Clive and company made all those other victors winners.

2. Income inequality

Everybody’s so busy struggling, they don’t want to take any steps that might hold them back. Therefore, if you get ahead, you want to stay there. Kinda like Taylor Swift, the biggest star in America, she’s been mum about Trump, because she doesn’t want to lose any potential fans. And if Swift is mum, what are the odds anybody else is gonna voice a controversial opinion? The best and the brightest avoid music, because they know the odds are long and if you don’t make it and haven’t been investing in your straight career you’re screwed. Only the poor and disadvantaged commit to music, and they see it as a vehicle out of the dumps, not one of self-expression. They want some of that money and lifestyle, and, ironically, those who make it hang with billionaires and emulate them. Our society is dominated by money, not culture. After all, we elected as President a man whose sole calling card is he’s supposedly rich. We used to elect big thinkers, no more.

3. No sense of history

Dylan, et al, emerged out of the folk scene, with its long history of standing up for people’s rights and protests. There’s no folk scene today, there’s no sense of history at all. Will kids tomorrow emulate the English bluesmen who emulated the delta bluesmen? Possibly so, but there’s no evidence of this yet.

4. Hip-hop culture

Used to be about speaking truth to power, now it’s about lifestyle. Hip-hop is the most vibrant music we’ve got, but it’s become self-referential, kinda like metal. You can’t understand today’s metal unless you listened to decades of it before. As for hip-hop culture… This is dangerous, but I’ll wade in. The African-American has been screwed from Day One in America and he sees it as a badge of honor to get his and rip-off the man. So rappers don’t turn down corporate endorsements, they don’t say no to power, they want to become brands with all that money. And it’s understandable, since these same men who run the brands have been screwing them from time immemorial, and the opportunity to take back is hard to turn down. And my inbox will now fill up with missives telling me I don’t understand, and maybe I don’t, but that proves the point that everybody’s afraid of wading in, discussing the issues, especially if they’re murky. Funny how Republicans will say the seemingly unpopular, especially Trump, and Democrats are so busy pussyfooting, afraid to piss a single person off, that they end up saying nothing.

More at the link above.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:35:38am

Howard Stern Discusses His Friendship With Donald Trump, Why Trump Ran For Office

Howard Stern Spills Beans on Trump Friendship 02/01/17

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weave  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:35:44am

So allegedly the catalyst behind the judge’s order was the irreparable damage the ban was causing to employers of Washington state.

Democrats really need to reposition themselves as being pro-business and Republicans anti-business. Yes, Democrats are going to support fair wages and environmental regulations, but all wrapped up in a PREDICTABLE business-friendly environment in a level playing field that allows businesses to compete fairly with each other.

What Republicans have done is create absolute chaos. And business can’t operate in this kind of environment.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:38:19am

Pat Oliphant releases his first editorial cartoon since January 13, 2015:

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plansbandc  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:43:23am

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kirkspencer  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:44:16am

(reposting by request from re: #536 kirkspencer)

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Do you guys agree with my accessment about the three wings within the Trump admin power structure? Is it too simplified? Too complex? Thoughts. It’s really difficult to decide which one Trump is favoring the most at the moment. One might say the racists since he’s pushed their EO but he also did the corporatists a huge solid by signing the EO that weakened Dodd-Frank.

So I’m leaning toward a different sort of break of the structure. It starts with a core assumption, that there are two tiers to the power structure. There are the people who were part of Team Trump before he won the nomination, and there are the people who came after.

The second tier tends to break as you said, with the caveat that these are the people who Trump - or someone in the first tier - thinks Trump needs, wants to connect with, or owes. At the same time they’re expendables.

The real power is that first tier. And here I’m still working out what they are more accurately.

I mean, you’ve got Kushner. He’s the corporatist who also happens to be a racist who is driven by the need to prove Daddy was right.

You’ve got Bannon who at root is bent on destroying America-as-is so he can make America-as-desired. It’s important, I think, to remember that even though the America he wants is an internally inconsistent mix of isolationist and white center of a world empire, the need to destroy what is comes first.

Not easy to categorize, and the rest of the core is just as complex.

But I think that the big cracks to come are driven by the tier break more than ideological breaks.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:44:22am

The bi-weekly eruption of BernieShouldaWon-age has spouted up again. Shit you meatheads, get a fucking grip.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:47:47am

re: #7 kirkspencer

(reposting by request from )

So I’m leaning toward a different sort of break of the structure. It starts with a core assumption, that there are two tiers to the power structure. There are the people who were part of Team Trump before he won the nomination, and there are the people who came after.

The second tier tends to break as you said, with the caveat that these are the people who Trump - or someone in the first tier - thinks Trump needs, wants to connect with, or owes. At the same time they’re expendables.

The real power is that first tier. And here I’m still working out what they are more accurately.

I mean, you’ve got Kushner. He’s the corporatist who also happens to be a racist who is driven by the need to prove Daddy was right.

You’ve got Bannon who at root is bent on destroying America-as-is so he can make America-as-desired. It’s important, I think, to remember that even though the America he wants is an internally inconsistent mix of isolationist and white center of a world empire, the need to destroy what is comes first.

Not easy to categorize, and the rest of the core is just as complex.

But I think that the big cracks to come are driven by the tier break more than ideological breaks.

That’s an interesting way of looking at it. The before and after nomination.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:48:01am

re: #539 Anymouse

My brother-in-law reports my sister-in-law was in a car wreck yesterday. She was uninjured: Her Hyundai was T-boned by a giant pick-up truck. Apparently, the only damage was to the passenger side door.

(I posted to a dead thread.)

My senator Deb Fischer repeating the same propaganda about the Clean Water Act that the GOP has been parroting for decades: Clean water regulations are an undue burden on farmers and ranches (who they don’t really give a hoot about).

starherald.com (full monty of pig excrement at the link)

But for too long, faraway bureaucrats in Washington have believed, and behaved, as if they know better than Nebraskans when it comes to keeping water clean. In May 2015, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Army Corps of Engineers issued a final rule revising the definition of “waters of the United States” or WOTUS for all Clean Water Act programs.

Washington’s harmful rule greatly expands the scope of federally protected waters, far beyond the original intent of Congress. This heavy-handed regulation would affect all Nebraskans, our families, communities, and small businesses. One of the more cumbersome provisions redefines “navigable waterways” to include run-off streams and ditches that are dry most of the year.

Nebraskans know this definition would be laughable if it didn’t also pose serious economic harm to so many Nebraskan families. If your property has a low spot that fills up after a heavy rain, you could be subject to severe restrictions on the use of your own land as well as expensive fines.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:48:13am

re: #8 BigPapa

The bi-weekly eruption of BernieShouldaWon-age has spouted up again. Shit you meatheads, get a fucking grip.

Sigh, so tired of that crap.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:49:30am

re: #2 Eric The Fruit Bat

Interesting piece. I have been compiling my own protest soundtrack from some interesting sources. This song, from a 6 year old video game has been helping my spirits lately. (If you think it seems pro Trump listen closely to the lyrics)

Bastion-Build That Wall (Zia’s Theme)

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:50:05am

re: #8 BigPapa

The bi-weekly eruption of BernieShouldaWon-age has spouted up again. Shit you meatheads, get a fucking grip.

Early Voting is great. Really helps turnout. But Late Voting would do waaaaaay more. And just think if it included ‘do-overs’.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:53:10am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Sigh, so tired of that crap.

Move to my county of Trump supporters. I guarantee you’ll never hear about Bernie Sanders and whether he would have won.

(You might hear a lot about jailing Hillary Clinton and Cecile Richards, but that’s the price you’ll have to pay for escaping Sanders escapist fiction. /s)

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:55:06am

TV networks hiking ad rates for shows Trump watches

MSNBC and Fox News are capitalizing on President Donald Trump’s TV watching habits, dramatically increasing issue advocacy advertising rates in recent weeks as companies and outside groups try to influence Trump and his top lieutenants.

The ad rates for “Morning Joe” have more than doubled post-election, according to one veteran media buyer. Trump, who reportedly watches the show most mornings, has a close relationship with “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough, and they talk regularly.

Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor” and other primetime programs on Fox News have boosted their rates about 50 percent. Trump also is a frequent viewer of the network’s primetime shows.

“The president’s media habits are so predictable, advertisers migrate to those areas,” said one media buyer.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:55:10am

[…]

She was seen leaving “The View” on Jan. 27 wearing the orthopedic boot — and a high heel on the other foot.

[…]

Warnings don’t work for some people…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:56:06am

So this Michigan GOP official called for shooting demonstrators yesterday…

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:56:32am

I am at our local men’s Democratic luncheon and we’re are getting a detailed introduction to our immigration policy from a former State Department employee.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:56:35am

re: #16 wrenchwench

Break a leg.

Burn
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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:56:49am

I’m dying here.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:58:19am

re: #20 Nyet

It looks like that middle picture belongs somewhere else.

I thought this was Heath Ledger. en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:58:40am

re: #7 kirkspencer

(reposting by request from )

So I’m leaning toward a different sort of break of the structure. It starts with a core assumption, that there are two tiers to the power structure. There are the people who were part of Team Trump before he won the nomination, and there are the people who came after.

The second tier tends to break as you said, with the caveat that these are the people who Trump - or someone in the first tier - thinks Trump needs, wants to connect with, or owes. At the same time they’re expendables.

The real power is that first tier. And here I’m still working out what they are more accurately.

I mean, you’ve got Kushner. He’s the corporatist who also happens to be a racist who is driven by the need to prove Daddy was right.

You’ve got Bannon who at root is bent on destroying America-as-is so he can make America-as-desired. It’s important, I think, to remember that even though the America he wants is an internally inconsistent mix of isolationist and white center of a world empire, the need to destroy what is comes first.

Not easy to categorize, and the rest of the core is just as complex.

But I think that the big cracks to come are driven by the tier break more than ideological breaks.

Worth repeating. I suggest you Page it so we can tweet it far and wide.

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MsJ  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:59:26am

re: #8 BigPapa

The bi-weekly eruption of BernieShouldaWon-age has spouted up again. Shit you meatheads, get a fucking grip.

And my bi-weekly response: fuck Bernie.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 4, 2017 • 10:59:53am

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

It looks like that middle picture belongs somewhere else.

All the pix are wrong. Some sort of joke, I guess?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:00:57am

re: #24 Scottish Dragon

Yes. I understand why Sergey was “dying.” Dying with laughter.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:01:21am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting piece. I have been compiling my own protest soundtrack from some interesting sources. This song, from a 6 year old video game has been helping my spirits lately. (If you think it seems pro Trump listen closely to the lyrics)

[Embedded content]

From the Village Voice:

The 50 Best Protest Songs of 2016

villagevoice.com

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:02:23am

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

It looks like that middle picture belongs somewhere else.

I thought this was Heath Ledger. en.wikipedia.org

But the rest of them are correct, right? ;)

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:02:39am

I read a pretty disturbing FB post earlier today, and it’s been on my mind ever since.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:03:49am

re: #27 Nyet

But the rest of them are correct, right? ;)

Posting on Snopes FB page to verify…

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:03:56am

“Trump likes the women who work for him “to dress like women,” says a source who worked on Trump’s campaign. “Even if you’re in jeans, you need to look neat and orderly.” We hear that women who worked in Trump’s campaign field offices — folks who spend more time knocking on doors than attending glitzy events — felt pressure to wear dresses to impress Trump.”

This legitimately made me sick to my stomach. And I’ve eaten burgers from a trash can.

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:06:24am

re: #30 Anymouse

“Trump likes the women who work for him “to dress like women,” says a source who worked on Trump’s campaign. “Even if you’re in jeans, you need to look neat and orderly.” We hear that women who worked in Trump’s campaign field offices — folks who spend more time knocking on doors than attending glitzy events — felt pressure to wear dresses to impress Trump.”

This legitimately made me sick to my stomach. And I’ve eaten burgers from a trash can.

Bannon is probably laughing about that one (well…among the many things he’s laughing about).

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:06:33am

re: #30 Anymouse

If you’re a woman and you’re dressed (or not), you’re dressed like a woman. Any questions?

(Oh, and please don’t eat burgers from the trash. ;))

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:07:19am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:07:26am

So that Tweet by Fuckstick about the judge and his ruling? I’m old enough to remember media and GOP outrage when Obama criticized Citizens United during his State of the Union address. Those were heady times.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:08:46am

re: #28 Moebym

I read a pretty disturbing FB post earlier today, and it’s been on my mind ever since.

[Embedded content]

The Teddy Roosevelt citation is true, according to Snopes.

snopes.com

That said, that doesn’t mean President Roosevelt was correct in his statement.

Roosevelt was a lifelong advocate of English-only, including the idea that newspapers printed in foreign languages be required to carry English translations.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:08:48am

re: #33 wrenchwench

That drawing is adorable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:08:52am

Trump from here on out shall be referred to as our so-called President.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:08:52am

re: #27 Nyet

But the rest of them are correct, right? ;)

They’re all different people—it’s a comedy site—i.e.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:10:02am

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump from here on out shall be referred to as our so-called President.

I refer to him as sex-predator-in-chief.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:11:35am

re: #39 Nyet

I refer to him as sex-predator-in-chief.

I’ve an affinity for sex-presedent.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:11:42am

re: #32 Moebym

If you’re a woman and you’re dressed (or not), you’re dressed like a woman. Any questions?

(Oh, and please don’t eat burgers from the trash. ;))

Well, when you’re a homeless vet, you do what you have to do. I don’t do that any more, because I am no longer homeless. (My wife did her part for vet homelessness by marrying me.) (::

We do make good props when the GOP wants to claim some moral high ground about people they don’t care about (why do we send foreign aid to country X when we have homeless vets). Of course, if they suspended all aid, they certainly wouldn’t use that money for vets, that’s socialism. It would go to corporate welfare (that’s apparently not socialism).

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:12:34am

It seems a lifetime ago I thought Lee Fang was smart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:13:33am

re: #10 Anymouse

(I posted to a dead thread.)

My senator Deb Fischer repeating the same propaganda about the Clean Water Act that the GOP has been parroting for decades: Clean water regulations are an undue burden on farmers and ranches (who they don’t really give a hoot about).

Farmers and ranchers care a lot repealing those pesky clean water regulations: who does the government think it is to dictate about fertilizer and manure runoff into streams, not to mention allowing livestock free access to foul streams?
(But keep your hands off their USDA farm subsidies.)
Not putting a sarc tag on that at all because it’s true.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:13:44am
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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:14:59am

re: #41 Anymouse

Well, when you’re a homeless vet, you do what you have to do. I don’t do that any more, because I am no longer homeless.

Ack, sorry for the insensitive comment. I had no idea you were once homeless…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:15:35am
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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:18:50am

re: #45 Moebym

Ack, sorry for the insensitive comment. I had no idea you were once homeless…

You said ‘please’. It’s never insensitive to ask someone not to eat from the trash. If you see the person in real life and offer no alternatives, that would be insensitive.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:19:41am
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:19:59am
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:21:17am

re: #45 Moebym

Ack, sorry for the insensitive comment. I had no idea you were once homeless…

1996-2007.

Your comment wasn’t insensitive, no apology required. Believe me, it wasn’t my choice to forage for food.

My ire is directed at those who turn a blind eye to homelessness (wingnut evangelicals and the GOP). Those folk who wave the flag and put yellow ribbons on their cars and tweet “support the troops” and ignore us in the wild.

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Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:21:43am
Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, — Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” - Donald J. Trump

Just for reference.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:25:39am
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Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:26:21am

FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

Republican Ajit Pai halts Wheeler’s net neutrality investigation of zero-rating.

That was fast.

arstechnica.com

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:26:51am
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:27:25am

re: #51 Skip Intro

If they figure out a way to circumvent separation of church and state to ban Islam, they will.

But it won’t stop with Islam: it will be every religion the Dominionists do not agree with. That would be every faith that is not a wingnut version of Christianity.

Given the opportunity, every moderate denomination of Christianity (plus every other non-Christian faith, and atheists) would be targeted. This sort of religious purge is quite common throughout history, and there is no particular reason to believe that if wingnuts could do it, they wouldn’t.

When a religious faith is weak, it cries out for protection from the government. When it is powerful, it seeks perfection (which means eliminate the heretics). When it gets its hands on the levers of governance, all other faiths are in danger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:30:51am
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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:31:18am

re: #8 BigPapa

The bi-weekly eruption of BernieShouldaWon-age has spouted up again. Shit you meatheads, get a fucking grip.

That crap is never going to change. They are convinced and so set in their ways they’ve carved in stone that whole “Let It Be Forever Known. St. Bernie Was Better”

And they continue to crow: “look what you Hillary backers did by nominating and then voting for a Democrat in Republican clothes with all her baggage and Wall Street connections and her email servers and oh my her voice and laugh!!! People wanted change, they didn’t want more Clinton…she didn’t stand for anything. So they went with change.”

I can understand wanting change. But what about the very real possibility Trump is going to screw this country up so bad it is going to hurt a lot of people?

You could have voted for Clinton, bitched for four normal years knowing everything and everyone was going to be okay and then fought for change in 2020. Clinton getting elected would have put a total end to anything Trump ever again too.

But no!

And look what we have. You got your change.

Now how long is it going to take to get this change changed so you get your change?

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:32:37am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unfortunately, the second word of that tweet is already wrong. It should read: Munchin stole $3M+…

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:33:31am

The US lets in approximately one million people each year to stay as permanent legal residents. This is in addition to those over here on visas for students or work.

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gwangung  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:34:07am

re: #57 ObserverArt

Now how long is it going to take to get this change changed so you get your change?

And how long will they get to make their change if they get in charge?

Obama get LESS THAN A YEAR before Republicans obstructed and ate away at his efforts. Liberal or progressive, you need to hit the ground running and push through as much as you AND DO IT WELL.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:36:21am

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:38:39am

re: #57 ObserverArt

It basically boils down to ideology over people. Who cares if people die, as long as their ideology is advancing?

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:43:00am

re: #61 Scottish Dragon

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:43:19am
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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:43:33am
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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:43:38am

re: #62 Moebym

It basically boils down to ideology over people. Who cares if people die, as long as their ideology is advancing?

Great advancement wasn’t it?

No step forward…two, maybe more, steps back.

Winning!

No, I don’t think so.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:46:36am

re: #61 Scottish Dragon

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:48:03am

re: #69 Belafon

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:48:45am

re: #63 nines09

Brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:49:55am

re: #48 Nyet

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Dude you literally wished for people to be killed. I don’t want to hear lectures about the left being intolerant to you. Listen, if you said that you said something stupid in a fit of anger. Fine but don’t insult people by saying you didn’t say something hateful or stupid. People actually fucking died at Kent State.

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nines09  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:50:06am

re: #71 Nyet

Brilliant.

Yes. Finger in the eye.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:50:34am

A comment at Wonkette concerning the stay against the Muslim Ban EO:

At the earliest possible time, the Department of Justice intends to file an emergency stay of this order and defied the executive order of the President, which we believe is lawful and appropriate

I’m sorry, but unless those are “sincerely held religious beliefs”, the court won’t rule in your favor.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:53:37am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Dude you literally wished for people to be killed. I don’t want to hear lectures about the left being intolerant to you. Listen, if you said that you said something stupid in a fit of anger. Fine but don’t insult people by saying you didn’t say something hateful or stupid. People actually fucking died at Kent State.

Feature, not bug. I am sure the wingnut county GOP guy is fully aware of what happened at Kent State.

And this goes back to our discussion up the thread: If someone takes him up on it (shoots protesters), will he be dragged into court for inciting violence? No. Should such speech (stochastic terrorism) be protected as free speech (see also Holocaust denial)?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:53:58am

I mean goddamn. If we just say hey “you shouldn’t say that”, we’re a bunch of wusses to these fuckwards. We rightfully get angry over a GOP appointed official using an event that killed four people as his wish for what should happen to protesters, and then we’re intolerant. If he had simply said, “Listen, I was angry when I read about what happened at UC, I said something stupid and immature.” I think he’d be surprised but alot of people would back off but when you double down and claim as he did that he wasn’t calling for violence and then to bitch about the left being “intolerant.” Yep, you’re part of the problem buddy.

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:54:23am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:56:42am

re: #75 Anymouse

Feature, not bug. I am sure the wingnut county GOP guy is fully aware of what happened at Kent State.

And this goes back to our discussion up the thread: If someone takes him up on it (shoots protesters), will he be dragged into court for inciting violence? No. Should such speech (stochastic terrorism) be protected as free speech (see also Holocaust denial)?

Oh, I know he knows what it is. My point is that it’s his reaction that makes things al lthe more worst. To claim that he wasn’t calling for violence is absurd. However, if he had after the outcry said something to the effect that he posted something stupid impulsively, I personally might give him a little more slack but when he tries to claim A) he wasn’t calling for violence and in fact the opposite and B) whine about the left calling him out for the dipshit he is, that’s what pisses people off. I guess the hardest ords in the English language for a GOP official to say are “I spoke stupidly and impulsively and I really do apologize, I have a position of authority and I really should be aware of that in the future.” But nah, whine about the left calling you act for wishing a Kent State.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:57:16am

Via Politico:

The little-noticed section, appearing immediately after the travel ban,
calls for the government to develop a “uniform screening standard and
procedure” for all individuals seeking to enter the United States. As
written, it appears to require all visitors to go through the same
vetting measures, regardless of where they come from or how long they
intend to stay.

politico.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:57:34am

re: #77 Kragar

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:58:49am

re: #77 Kragar

*Nuremberg trial photo with the accused*

“SEE HOW INTOLERANT THE LIBERALS ARE!!!1”

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:58:53am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Oh, I know he knows what it is. My point is that it’s his reaction that makes things al lthe more worst. To claim that he wasn’t calling for violence is absurd. However, if he had after the outcry said something to the effect that he posted something stupid impulsively, I personally might give him a little more slack but when he tries to claim A) he wasn’t calling for violence and in fact the opposite and B) whine about the left calling him out for the dipshit he is, that’s what pisses people off. I guess the hardest ords in the English language for a GOP official to say are “I spoke stupidly and impulsively and I really do apologize, I have a position of authority and I really should be aware of that in the future.” But nah, whine about the left calling you act for wishing a Kent State.

And that’s my objection. He is calling for murder and claiming Freeze Peach and calling the left “intolerant” for calling him out.

If there wasn’t such an absolutist interpretation of the I Amendment, he would be up on charges for inciting violence.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 11:59:03am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Why is the tolerant left prosecuting Nazis. /// Victor’s justice. Oh wait, Robert A. Taft actually did claim that and Robert A. Taft is Ron Paul’s political hero.

LOL same wave again.

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unproven innocence  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:00:50pm

The days of fascism in our world are numbered. This is Day 15.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:00:52pm

Was retweeted by this woman:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:02:44pm

re: #83 Nyet

LOL same wave again.

I’m your Rusyn cousin from another great great great whatever grandparent heh. But seriously, I mean we all say stupid stuff when we’re angry. I know I have. I really think this guy wouldn’t have gotten the reaction he did if he had sincerely realized why he was wrong instead of doubling down the way he did and insisting it wasn’t meant to call for more violence and then to whine about the left calling him out. Does he really think if a Dem official had called for a Kent State on Tea Party protesters that the reaction would been “Oh, he wasn’t calling for violence, he was just calling for less violence.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:03:20pm

re: #82 Anymouse

And that’s my objection. He is calling for murder and claiming Freeze Peach and calling the left “intolerant” for calling him out.

If there wasn’t such an absolutist interpretation of the I Amendment, he would be up on charges for inciting violence.

He’s a fuckwit.

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:04:27pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

She’s doing an autopsy with a tree pruner. ::Gulp::

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:05:05pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Great advancement wasn’t it?

No step forward…two, maybe more, steps back.

Winning!

No, I don’t think so.

It is TOO! We can turn anger against Trump into fuel for our Revolution!!111!!

re: #88 stpaulbear

She’s doing an autopsy with a tree pruner. ::Gulp::

She’s probably cutting the ribcage. (Why yes, I do watch videos of autopsies.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:05:13pm

Too many people fuck up now and the reaction isn’t to try to right the fuck up but rather to blame the people offended by the fuck up. No, I wouldn’t have punched Richard Spencer but I also don’t believe you can call for “peaceful ethnic cleansing” either and not expect a violent reaction.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:05:40pm

re: #88 stpaulbear

She’s doing an autopsy with a tree pruner. ::Gulp::

I’m just glad the one on the table is already deceased! So far as we know…

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:07:33pm

re: #81 Nyet

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:08:59pm

re: #92 Kragar

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:09:20pm

re: #92 Kragar

I’ll steal it, sorry.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:10:01pm

re: #94 Nyet

I’ll steal it, sorry.

You can steal my Streicher joke too.

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:10:03pm

re: #94 Nyet

Not stealing when I’m giving it away

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:10:42pm

With the caveat that yes, this Adamini guy is an asshole and what he said is totally assholy—I can’t believe this has become a big national outrage.

He’s the county Republican party secretary in a county with 57,000 registered voters that went for Clinton by 4 points (and it wasn’t because of minority voters, as the county is close to 90% white.) My guess would be that the county Rep. party organization probably has about 100 active members. The guy has a whopping 183 Twitter followers.

I’ve heard equally stupid shit said by people behind me in line at the grocery store, but it didn’t make national news.

He is a nobody (well, he was until yesterday)

I have bigger fish to fry. YMMV.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:11:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:13:40pm

re: #97 BeachDem

With the caveat that yes, this Adamini guy is an asshole and what he said is totally assholy—I can’t believe this has become a big national outrage.

He’s the county Republican party secretary in a county with 57,000 registered voters that went for Clinton by 4 points (and it wasn’t because of minority voters, as the county is close to 90% white.) My guess would be that the county Rep. party organization probably has about 100 active members. The guy has a whopping 183 Twitter followers.

I’ve heard equally stupid shit said by people behind me in line at the grocery store, but it didn’t make national news.

He is a nobody (well, he was until yesterday)

I have bigger fish to fry. YMMV.

I do agree with that.

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:14:21pm
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Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:15:21pm

BTW, if you’re looking to do quick easy photo editing, I found this site called Ribbet.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:15:33pm

re: #89 Moebym

It is TOO! We can turn anger against Trump into fuel for our Revolution!!111!!

She’s probably cutting the ribcage. (Why yes, I do watch videos of autopsies.)

Thank you for answering the question I had been hesitating to ask since Thursday! O_o

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:16:11pm

re: #101 Kragar

Thanks!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:16:27pm

I just realized that by virtue of being President Trump is eligible to be buried at Arlington.

Ugh!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:19:36pm

re: #100 Kragar

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He admits he’s overpaid. How come he’s not donating all his money to charity. // Seriously that was about as whiny as I’d expect. The fantasy of using Martial Arts on Alec Baldwin, the bragging about how he “warned” that Obama would be “terrible.” and his acting like he’s this blue collar Joe.

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allegro  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:19:38pm

re: #88 stpaulbear

She’s doing an autopsy with a tree pruner. ::Gulp::

I was thinking bolt cutter.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:19:49pm

So in the past few months I’ve successfully finished something that was very important for my future (one of the reasons I was absent). And next month I’m getting a new job. Wish me luck :)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:19:58pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

I just realized that by virtue of being President Trump is eligible to be buried at Arlington.

Ugh!

Only two presidents are: Taft and Kennedy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:20:15pm

re: #107 Nyet

So in the past few months I’ve successfully finished something that was very important for my future (one of the reasons I was absent). And next month I’m getting a new job. Wish me luck :)

Congrats. Good luck.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:21:59pm

Trump will need to be buried like George Pullman. Meaning - secured deep so people don’t mess with his corpse. How’d you like to be such an asshole that you have to secure yourself AFTER you’re dead?

In 1897, Pullman died of a heart attack at the age of 66, only three years after the strike. Fearing that some of his former employees or other labor supporters might try to dig up his body, his family arranged for his remains to be placed in a lead-lined mahogany coffin, which was then sealed inside a block of concrete. At the cemetery, a large pit had been dug at the family plot. At its base and walls were 18 inches of reinforced concrete. The coffin was lowered, and covered with asphalt and tarpaper. More concrete was poured on top, followed by a layer of steel rails bolted together at right angles, and another layer of concrete. The entire burial process took two days. His monument, featuring a Corinthian column flanked by curved stone benches, was designed by Solon Spencer Bemen, the architect of the company town of Pullman.[12]

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:23:00pm

re: #106 allegro

I was thinking bolt cutter.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:25:26pm
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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:25:33pm

re: #42 BigPapa

It seems a lifetime ago I thought Lee Fang was smart.

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LOL, Fang is getting his dudebro ass handed to him in the comments. What a dumbass.

The entire Intercept/Greenwald schtick is to be an automatic, asshole, arrogant, intellectual superior snob, contrarian to all things left.

As time rolls on they are getting worse at it and folks are seeing the light.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:26:35pm

re: #113 b.d.

They’ve already wrecked the havoc they wanted. Fuck them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:27:03pm

re: #113 b.d.

LOL, Fang is getting his dudebro ass handed to him in the comments. What a dumbass.

The entire Intercept/Greenwald schtick is to be an automatic, asshole, arrogant, intellectual superior snob, contrarian to all things left.

As time rolls on they are getting worse at it and folks are seeing the light.

They have a certain smugness and morally superior than thou attitude that I hate. It’s what I always hated about the Paul movement.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:27:42pm

re: #114 Nyet

They’ve already wrecked the havoc they wanted. Fuck them.

Remember Snowden’s tweet, it’s between Goldman Sachs and Trump. Yep except we got both with Trump, Edddie.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:27:43pm

re: #97 BeachDem

With the caveat that yes, this Adamini guy is an asshole and what he said is totally assholy—I can’t believe this has become a big national outrage.

He’s the county Republican party secretary in a county with 57,000 registered voters that went for Clinton by 4 points (and it wasn’t because of minority voters, as the county is close to 90% white.) My guess would be that the county Rep. party organization probably has about 100 active members. The guy has a whopping 183 Twitter followers.

I’ve heard equally stupid shit said by people behind me in line at the grocery store, but it didn’t make national news.

He is a nobody (well, he was until yesterday)

I have bigger fish to fry. YMMV.

Because if intolerance is not called out (or an incitement to murder) it spreads.

It is much simpler to bat it down now than if say in twenty years this guy were a state or Federal senator. His career deserves to be deep sixed for calling for murder.

Equally stupid shit in the grocery store should be also called out. I have no problem humiliating a person in public that calls for murder.

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Targetpractice  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:28:19pm

re: #44 Scottish Dragon

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I really should bookmark this for the next time a wingnut insists to me that they’re not against all immigrants, just “illegals.”

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:28:52pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I hope Snowden gets extradited *and* rots in prison under Trump. Ironic punishment.

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:29:08pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Now I never want to die.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:29:23pm

re: #119 Nyet

I hope Snowden gets extradited *and* rots in prison under Trump. Ironic punishment.

He’s definitely not getting a pardon like he thinks he should.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:29:58pm

re: #107 Nyet

So in the past few months I’ve successfully finished something that was very important for my future (one of the reasons I was absent). And next month I’m getting a new job. Wish me luck :)

I suspect you have something better than luck. Skills. But I wish you good luck, ‘cause the other kind sucks.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:29:59pm

re: #100 Kragar

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Odd that he doesn’t include his ongoing friendship with Neo-Nazi Hal Turner.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:30:31pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

I really should bookmark this for the next time a wingnut insists to me that they’re not against all immigrants, just “illegals.”

We know that Sessions railroaded against legal immigrants as a Senator too.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:30:54pm

re: #120 stpaulbear

Now I never want to die.

That’s a healthy attitude.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:31:02pm

re: #123 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Odd that he doesn’t include his ongoing friendship with Neo-Nazi Hal Turner.

or that his tongue has been on Trump’s ass fro the last eighteen months.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:31:53pm

re: #114 Nyet

They’ve already wrecked the havoc they wanted. Fuck them.

LOL. In some alternative reality, somewhere, The Intercept gang is throwing fits about all of the overreaches that President Sanders is doing.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:32:32pm

re: #127 b.d.

LOL. In some alternative reality, somewhere, The Intercept gang is throwing fits about all of the overreaches that President Sanders is doing.

SANDERS IS A WAR CRIMINAL!!!!1

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:32:51pm

That would have been funny to watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:33:35pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

I just realized that by virtue of being President Trump is eligible to be buried at Arlington.

Ugh!

makes it easy to find the grave to pi….

oops….

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:33:50pm

re: #127 b.d.

LOL. In some alternative reality, somewhere, The Intercept gang is throwing fits about all of the overreaches that President Sanders is doing.

In a way, I would feel bad for Bernie if he became President because his die-hards I think would turn on him fast the second he didn’t make something immediate.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:34:13pm

re: #129 Nyet

That would have been funny to watch.

My favorite would have been Bernie called a dreaded Neo-Lib or DLCer.

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ckkatz  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:34:14pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Fiskars… I’ll be darned. I actually have one of those. Which I use for trimming branches. They work pretty well. No intention of trying it on a ribcage, though.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:34:33pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

My favorite would have been Bernie called a dreaded Neo-Lib or DLCer.

But of course.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:36:02pm

re: #134 Nyet

But of course.

I swear dude if I can live without hearing “Neo-Lib” ever again, I’ll die happy. Bernie’s campaign showed me there’s a part of the left that I really don’t like and one that I hope never takes charge of the Democratic Party. I get a lot of their stuff in my TL since some of my old friends are Bernie fans and while I think their hearts are definitely in the right spots often, their heads aren’t.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:36:17pm

Diverted by robo-call: This is the callback you requested regarding the back brace commercial you saw on TV.

In an alternate universe, I have cable service available, own a TV, and need a back brace. Now back to your regularly scheduled LGF.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:36:40pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

My favorite would have been Bernie called a dreaded Neo-Lib or DLCer.

3rd Way Bernie!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:36:45pm

But in a way, I don’t feel bad since the Sanders campaign made long time liberal icons like Dolores Huerta, John Lewis, and Barney Frank out to be “establishment shills.”

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:37:02pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I mean, Bernie certainly would have been a 100000000x times better pres. than Trump be he couldn’t even win the primaries.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:38:11pm

re: #139 Nyet

I mean, Bernie certainly would have been a 100000000x times better pres. than Trump be he couldn’t even win the primaries.

My cat would be ten million times better as President than Donald Trump, and he didn’t even run in the primaries.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:38:21pm

re: #139 Nyet

I mean, Bernie certainly would have been a 100000000x times better pres. than Trump be he couldn’t even win the primaries.

voter fraud.

//

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:38:42pm

re: #137 b.d.

3rd Way Bernie!

I sympathize with the students that supported Bernie more than the older adults. The kids, this was their first campaign. I was that kid once when I was a Kucinich supporter fifteen-fourteen years ago but the older adults? It’s harder for me since they remember how Nader equated Goer to Bush and then shocker Bush showed how he was different than Gore. I also remember there bellyaching about Kerry because he wasn’t Dean and I think Kerry ended up a far better voice for progressive values than Dean has been in the years since.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:39:41pm

re: #139 Nyet

I mean, Bernie certainly would have been a 100000000x times better pres. than Trump be he couldn’t even win the primaries.

He was struggling to win key elements of the Dem base and yet they tell us he would have won. I don’t care about hypothetical polls that were done before RNC opps research ads on Bernie would have came out.

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:40:29pm

re: #136 Anymouse

Diverted by robo-call: This is the callback you requested regarding the back brace commercial you saw on TV.

In an alternate universe, I have cable service available, own a TV, and need a back brace. Now back to your regularly scheduled LGF.

My Facebook page has been getting bombed with requests to sign petitions. They’re all good causes but I’ve quit believing that they’ll do any good. They’re so easy to do that there’s no power behind them no matter how many thousands of signatures they get. That, plus you risk putting yourself on the email list from hell when you give your info.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:40:42pm
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allegro  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:41:21pm

re: #112 Nyet

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nail snippers

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:42:34pm

re: #146 allegro

nail snippers

If that.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:43:03pm
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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:43:18pm

re: #145 Anymouse

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“Lefty”, what person on the left uses the term lefty?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:43:33pm

Sergey, I’m forgetting but Bernie had one FP adviser that you really didn’t like. Damn, I forget the guy’s name already but he had written articles in praise of Putin I believe. The trend I’ve seen with Sanders that did worry me though I of course agree that he would be much better than Trump or really any Republican is that he was showing a tendency to reward those who agreed with him rather than the Team of Rivals approach Obama took. I think we no doubt would have had Tulsi Gabbard in a Sanders administration and knowing what what we do now about Rep. Gabbard that bothers me a lot. It would have also meant Nina Turner who quite honestly isn’t qualified to be part of a Presidential admin.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:44:07pm

re: #149 b.d.

“Lefty”, what person on the left uses the term lefty?

I admit, i do from time to time but I’m not like Lee and his pals at the Intercept who profess to be lefty leaning but use every opportunity to bitch at the left.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:44:21pm

re: #149 b.d.

“Lefty”, what person on the left uses the term lefty?

I do. Sometimes I will say “I am leftier than thou.”

I also use lefty to refer to my wife’s handedness.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:44:24pm

re: #71 Nyet

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:45:12pm

I always wanted to be nicknamed Lefty. Never got it though.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:45:38pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

God, I’d take fucking Gabbard as Pres. over Trump.

Maybe even Stein (and that’s a big maybe).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:46:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:46:42pm

re: #110 Pawn of the Oppressor

Trump will need to be buried like George Pullman. Meaning - secured deep so people don’t mess with his corpse. How’d you like to be such an asshole that you have to secure yourself AFTER you’re dead?

We have the strike against George Pullman to thank for the establishment of Labor Day as a federal holiday. Congress pushed the legislation through six days after the strike ended in 1894.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:46:51pm

re: #155 Nyet

God, I’d take fucking Gabbard as Pres. over Trump.

Maybe even Stein (and that’s a big maybe).

So would I. I’m just bringing this up since the Sanderistas insist the only reason why a lot of people supported Clinton was for electoral reasons when that simply isn’t true.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:47:04pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I always wanted to be nicknamed Lefty. Never got it though.

You could chop off a hand, it’s never too late….

//

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:47:44pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Good. They should be shamed. Maybe never appear in public again.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:48:00pm

re: #159 b.d.

You could chop off a hand, it’s never too late….

//

Then I’d be Hook. But yes this is my way of saying I’m left handed and I was also a pretty decent baseball pitcher in my younger days.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:48:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:48:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:49:13pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Things have a way of changing. I know we were all done on Election Night but I do think that things can change fast. The Republicans are going to find out what the Dems had happen to them in 2010. It sucks that we lost but I think 2018 could be a very good year for the Dems,.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:50:33pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Things have a way of changing. I know we were all done on Election Night but I do think that things can change fast. The Republicans are going to find out what the Dems had happen to them in 2010. It sucks that we lost but I think 2018 could be a very good year for the Dems,.

Only if they run in all fifty states. I am not hopeful.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:51:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:51:27pm

We’re going to need a nominee who is not merely not Trump but someone who will be a good President. Who that man or woman is, I don’t know yet and I feel we got a good two-three years to find out. In the mean time, I plan to work on defeating Trump’s proxies whether they’re running for governor, senator, state senate, or state representative.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:51:36pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Which congressman was humiliated in this video?

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:52:12pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Did he walk out on the town hall early without taking questions or was he not taking questions after he’d left the town hall and run into the protesters? The tweets don’t really say.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:52:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:53:00pm

re: #165 Anymouse

Only if they run in all fifty states. I am not hopeful.

It happened in 2006. It can happen again. This year in VA and NJ will be good practice. I’m gong to be working on the Periello campaign and then whoever wins the Dem primary between him and Lt. Governor Northam. Not going to win every battle in this way but I’m ready to try.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:54:05pm

re: #153 Eric The Fruit Bat

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guinness ad

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:54:36pm

DNC chairmanship is going to be key. The key to me is finding a chairman who can A) articulate our party’s message and B) understand the importance of running competitive campaigns not just in all 50 states but in all different kinds of races.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:55:42pm

I say in a way we should try to beat Trump at the populism game. Show our party to be the party of regular people and show him and his proxies to be the party of distant elites who only care about themselves.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:57:30pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

We’re going to need a nominee who is not merely not Trump but someone who will be a good President. Who that man or woman is, I don’t know yet and I feel we got a good two-three years to find out. In the mean time, I plan to work on defeating Trump’s proxies whether they’re running for governor, senator, state senate, or state representative.

Move to my town and vote for me for reëlection. /s

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Timothy Watson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:58:17pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

It happened in 2006. It can happen again. This year in VA and NJ will be good practice. I’m gong to be working on the Periello campaign and then whoever wins the Dem primary between him and Lt. Governor Northam. Not going to win every battle in this way but I’m ready to try.

I am leaning towards Northam myself, but whoever the Democratic nominee is, I’ll be supporting him.

I need to give some more money to Herring, but I was hoping to avoid ending up on VPAP.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:58:25pm

Chuck C. Johnson just posted the names of all the people arrested for protesting at the inauguration.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 12:59:33pm

Too bad liberals understand how screen captures work.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:00:09pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

W8E5lJvhhHjTafI5f2LP3aPjIZ7OFI57s0WCfQ7onBCEXZxrAS86IsbFUsjrXbDB

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:00:18pm

re: #176 Timothy Watson

I am leaning towards Northam myself, but whoever the Democratic nominee is, I’ll be supporting him.

I need to give some more money to Herring, but I was hoping to avoid ending up on VPAP.

That’s how I feel too. I like Ralph. Fine guy but Perriello is more what I’m looking for but should the nominee be either man, either has my full support. Herring is great. He was my most proud vote of that whole cycle and it also showed you why you should vote in any election ebcause that election was close.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:00:37pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson just posted the names of all the people arrested for protesting at the inauguration.

But Milo! //

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:00:39pm

re: #178 Anymouse

Too bad liberals understand how screen captures work.

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Screen captures are not evidence of anything since they’re easily forged.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:01:11pm

re: #182 Nyet

Screen captures are not evidence of anything since they’re easily forged.

Caches OTOH.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:01:52pm

re: #179 Nyet

SCRPEzCm1xKHeNxtd1ykOqOaksQr6zOm6CxZtYX8Vgjn0u62QP1I21F1F0+/1lBekeJdFFnTgrrposgz+u8uS9qPBI8XL1j3BZwF+hVn8C/2exzuAz3UC4Oh1PseNkmL

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:01:54pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson just posted the names of all the people arrested for protesting at the inauguration.

Posted where? His own Website? I’m betting his “list” includes a whole bunch of people who had nothing to do with this.

If he’s on Twitter (again), that should be a violation of their terms-of-service (like the libertarian dudebros at Twitter care about anything but $$$).

I’m betting his Webhosting service has terms-of-service that doxxing violates as well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:02:11pm

re: #175 Anymouse

Move to my town and vote for me for reëlection. /s

Any good musical venues in town? That’s one of my prerequisites of whereever I end up.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:02:50pm

re: #182 Nyet

Screen captures are not evidence of anything since they’re easily forged.

Unless the original tweets were also witnessed by thousands of people, as in this case.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:03:15pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Caches OTOH.

I’d say it’s not the captures as such but the credibility of the one doing the captures. E.g. if you or Charles or a legit mainstream journo does a capture or even just copies the text, I won’t have a reason to disbelieve them.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:03:15pm

re: #107 Nyet

So in the past few months I’ve successfully finished something that was very important for my future (one of the reasons I was absent). And next month I’m getting a new job. Wish me luck :)

In order to complete a proper wish one has to know what the job is!

Then we can say “Congratulations of your new job as ________________ and good luck!”

Anyway…good luck.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:03:35pm

re: #185 Anymouse

Posted where? His own Website? I’m betting his “list” includes a whole bunch of people who had nothing to do with this.

If he’s on Twitter (again), that should be a violation of their terms-of-service (like the libertarian dudebros at Twitter care about anything but $$$).

I’m betting his Webhosting service has terms-of-service that doxxing violates as well.

At his shitty website. He hasn’t tried to sneak back into Twitter for a few weeks now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:03:37pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

Unless the original tweets were also witnessed by thousands of people, as in this case.

He hasn’t denied saying it either but instead tried to say he wasn’t calling for voilence which is laughable.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:05pm

re: #188 Nyet

I’d say it’s not the captures as such but the credibility of the one doing the captures. E.g. if you or Charles or a legit mainstream journo does a capture or even just copies the text, I won’t have a reason to disbelieve them.

Yep sources matter. Journalism 101.

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makeitstop  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:20pm

re: #2 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Lefsetz Letter: Why we’ve Got no Protest Songs

More at the link above.

A lot of people think Lefsetz is crazy, and to a degree maybe he is. But more often than not he talks hard sense with a crazy coating.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:31pm

re: #182 Nyet

Screen captures are not evidence of anything since they’re easily forged.

They are not evidence in the sense that they can be used in court (other than circumstantial evidence). If the crime if incitement to murder were actually prosecuted, they could be used to obtain a search warrant against an ISP or Twitter.

They can be used in such things as a political campaign, an argument on the Internet, &c. They can be used to search for other egregious statements.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:34pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

Unless the original tweets were also witnessed by thousands of people, as in this case.

Such as myself.

In which case the captures don’t matter as such. They only serve to provide the exact text. It’s the testimonies (if you will) of the people with credibility that matter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:39pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

At his shitty website. He hasn’t tried to sneak back into Twitter for a few weeks now.

He finally did get canned from FB didn’t he? Well at least with him off of Twitter, he has a smaller audience now.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:04:53pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

Thanks ;)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:05:33pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

He finally did get canned from FB didn’t he? Well at least with him off of Twitter, he has a smaller audience now.

No, he was only temporarily suspended from Facebook - six times now. He’s back there again.

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:05:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:06:18pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

No, he was only temporarily suspended from Facebook - six times now. He’s back there again.

Agh that’s too damn bad. I know how FB can be with their suspension policies though.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:06:19pm

re: #194 Anymouse

They are not evidence in the sense that they can be used in court (other than circumstantial evidence). If the crime if incitement to murder were actually prosecuted, they could be used to obtain a search warrant against an ISP or Twitter.

They can be used in such things as a political campaign, an argument on the Internet, &c. They can be used to search for other egregious statements.

They may be used in court for all I know (I really don’t, LOL), but they will be worthless without an accompanying testimony by a credible source.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:06:58pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

No, he was only temporarily suspended from Facebook - six times now. He’s back there again.

Another reason I am not on Faceplant. They refuse to do anything about such people.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:07:59pm

re: #201 Nyet

They may be used in court for all I know (I really don’t, LOL), but they will be worthless without an accompanying testimony by a credible source.

A screenshot that shows replies to the original tweet can be used to obtain witness statements from those twitterati that saw the tweet. I’m betting more than one would be willing to testify to that.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:08:21pm

If, on the other hand, someone like Chucky does a capture… Consider the source, etc.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:09:20pm
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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

In a world where you don’t need photoshop to forge a screencap, where the browser itself allows you to edit the source code, the origin of the screencap is paramount.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:10:57pm

re: #205 Anymouse

[Embedded content]

I’ve seen this one a lot. I very much doubt Clinton “fired” any judges.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:12:09pm

re: #206 Nyet

In a world where you don’t need photoshop to forge a screencap, where the browser itself allows you to edit the source code, the origin of the screencap is paramount.

Misinformation is easier and easier to spread these days because information is easier to spread these days. I know, goes without saying. That’s the state of our current world. It’s kind of like how I’ve seen the best humanity can be and the worst humanity can be using the same technologies.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:12:47pm

If your browser has a Web Inspector, it’s super easy to change the text of any tweet, then take a screenshot. And it looks indistinguishable from a real one. For example:

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:13:10pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

Ayup, exactly.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:13:11pm

Technology can also be used to mock:

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:14:04pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

LOL. I concede to the superior education in computer technology.

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JasonA  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:14:51pm

re: #211 Anymouse

Technology can also be used to mock:

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I recognize that guy!

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:16:23pm

re: #213 JasonA

I recognize that guy!

Stevie Wonder without his glasses? /s

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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:16:24pm
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:17:56pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:18:08pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have the strike against George Pullman to thank for the establishment of Labor Day as a federal holiday. Congress pushed the legislation through six days after the strike ended in 1894.

This has been today’s History Reminder Factoid by Backwoods Sleuth.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:18:13pm

Anyhow later guys. Always an interesting discussion to be had here. That’s why this is my favorite blog. Learn something new every day.

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makeitstop  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:18:45pm

re: #20 Nyet

Elvis Presley during the filming of Love Me Tender, 1956

Elvis looks amazingly like Bieber in that shot.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:19:34pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Anyhow later guys. Always an interesting discussion to be had here. That’s why this is my favorite blog. Learn something new every day.

Me too. I also need to bail for now. Thanks for the discussion: I always seem to learn something new here.

Breaking: LGF to provide continuing education credits.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:19:40pm

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stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:20:04pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I’ve seen this one a lot. I very much doubt Clinton “fired” any judges.

I think they might be getting judges mixed up with attorney generals. I found this on media matters regarding Bush vs. Clinton re: firing of attorney generals.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:20:47pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:20:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:22:23pm

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:23:03pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson just posted the names of all the people arrested for protesting at the inauguration.

I hope the people on that list make life tough for Chucky and whoever helped him get the list, etc.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:23:42pm

re: #221 Nyet

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lol, 72 billion likes…

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Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:23:53pm

Go RTWT

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Timothy Watson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:25:58pm

re: #205 Anymouse

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:25:59pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:27:34pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

Unless the original tweets were also witnessed by thousands of people, as in this case.

They’re all in it together!!!

They all share the password to a Dropbox account…some crafty artist type does a great Photoshop, puts it up in the Dropbox and sends a secret signal in a coded post at a site like this and next thing you know they are all saying they have and original screenshot too.

Just can’t trust anything in the digital age! /

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:31:55pm

re: #168 Anymouse

Tom McClintlock (R-CA)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:33:05pm

re: #217 ObserverArt

This has been today’s History Reminder Factoid by Backwoods Sleuth.

If it has to do with labor and union history, I’m your go-to person.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:35:48pm

re: #219 makeitstop

Elvis looks amazingly like Bieber in that shot.

I know…I’m like…

Heh.

Maybe Beebs will break out in a nice Jailhouse Rock. Nah.

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Tigger2  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:37:12pm
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JasonA  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:40:38pm

Great job, Bill. Truly fantastic thing you’ve helped accomplish here.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:41:55pm

re: #236 JasonA

Why couldn’t he just stay the course?

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:43:14pm

re: #236 JasonA

Great job, Bill. Truly fantastic thing you’ve helped accomplish here.

[Embedded content]

Bill - 60 Youngstown Ohio

Recent Dumbass

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allegro  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:43:20pm

re: #236 JasonA

Great job, Bill. Truly fantastic thing you’ve helped accomplish here.

[Embedded content]

Somehow I get the feeling that had the Dem candidate been male his desire for change wouldn’t have been so pressing.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:44:03pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

Elvis didn’t die, he just became Bieber.

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:44:22pm

re: #239 allegro

Bingo. And don’t forget, if the prior President hadn’t been, you know, black.

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Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:45:05pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

OK, that’s a rape stare. Sry.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:49:23pm

GOPers are determined to resurrect the MBF nonsensical BS that Democrats did to Bork what they’re threatening to do with Gorsuch.

This is all such total BS.

Bork was granted hearings. He lost a committee vote, but instead of withdrawing his name from consideration, he asked for a full consideration from the US Senate. The US Senate voted him down, with a bunch of Republicans voting against him. His confirmation was denied by a bipartisan group of Senators.

Now, let’s advance to Garland - who was not only denied a hearing, but never got a vote. The reason? GOP bullshit. They obstructed and blocked a qualified candidate from getting a hearing or vote. Even the GOPers who moments before Obama nominated Garland had stated Garland would be acceptable. They all lied and blocked Garland for no reason other than to deny Obama the right of seating a nominee on the Supreme Court.

Even up to the election, you had GOPers claiming that they would block Clinton appointments to the US Supreme Court.

That’s not Borking. That’s absolute and total abdication of their oaths of office to advice and consent. This isn’t delaying a vote or voting the nominee down. This is pure obstruction for the sake of trying to shift the balance of the court to GOP hands.

Now, Gorsuch is facing opposition from Democrats who lack the numbers to stop him. But they’ll try - as they should. It is a stolen seat and Trump needs to be challenged on every single nomination - we’ve seen rank failures among his nominees when challenged with basic questions about the positions sought. Gorsuch is qualified - but no more or less than Garland. And it will forever be known as a #StolenSeat. The GOP must be held to pay for this treachery.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:53:30pm

Have some respect!

245
BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:54:23pm

Cleaning out a file closet and just now came across two newspaper clippings among the papers:

Molly Ivins’ year-end column 2004:

articles.chicagotribune.com

Cartoon from 2004 election:
politicalcartoons.com

Heh. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

246
Kragar  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:55:51pm
247
Nyet  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:55:54pm

Any Dem voting to confirm the stolen nomination can go fuck themselves.

248
Belafon  Feb 4, 2017 • 1:57:36pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It took the GOP 40 years, a propaganda outlet, and electing a black man to get to this point. It took Democrats the election of one president and two weeks.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:00:05pm

Teen Vogue trolling Republicans:

It would appear that there is a campaign on Twitter to send a subscription to Teen Vogue to every Republican in Congress.

Since Internet and cell phone service are unavailable in my part of the state, no one has yet subscribed for Deb Fischer, Ben Sasse, or Adrian Smith. Someone from outside the area would need to step up.

Most of the Republican Senators and Representatives have already been given gift subscriptions to Teen Vogue. My understanding is it takes a $5 donation to do this.

docs.google.com

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:01:57pm
251
stpaulbear  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:03:47pm

re: #236 JasonA

“Trump is the first Republican I ever voted for. Something just had to change”

Dammit, we had to get over this not having a white male in the oval office.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:03:53pm

re: #245 BeachDem

Cleaning out a file closet and just now came across two newspaper clippings among the papers:

Molly Ivins’ year-end column 2004:

articles.chicagotribune.com

Cartoon from 2004 election:
politicalcartoons.com

Heh. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

From Molly

- Media Low Point of the Year: Political commentator Rush Limbaugh on Abu Ghraib: “I’m talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?”

253
Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:03:57pm

re: #136 Anymouse

Diverted by robo-call: This is the callback you requested regarding the back brace commercial you saw on TV.

In an alternate universe, I have cable service available, own a TV, and need a back brace. Now back to your regularly scheduled LGF.

I got that same call this week.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:06:07pm
255
Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:06:42pm

re: #253 Skip Intro

I got that same call this week.

I don’t have a telephone to be an advert outlet. If we could impose a tax on robo-callers of even 1¢ for robo-calls, I bet those would be substantially reduced.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:07:11pm

re: #236 JasonA

Youngstown has had a history of electing people of questionable character (Traficant, for one). Plus the population has imploded since the steel mills began to shutter in 1977.

They want a piece of life that won’t ever be coming back.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:07:24pm

re: #213 JasonA

I recognize that guy!

I want that coat!

258
Myron Falwell  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:08:41pm

That this bill is even being proposed is a fucking crime.

259
lawhawk  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:09:44pm

re: #246 Kragar

He’s got to brush up on what a law is. Who makes it. How it operates. Checks and balances. Judicial review. It’s all foreign to him. And he doesn’t care because he’s going the route of EOs, even as his party controls both House and Senate.

Speaking of - even with the GOP firmly in control in the House and Senate, Trump can’t move his nominees and they’re still sitting in committee. That’s a huge failure by Trump since he’s supposed to have someone steer the nominations to confirmation. That person has failed miserably - mostly because the people who he’s picked are miserable failures too. Incompetent. Unprepared. And intent on destroying the very departments they seek to run. Everyone knows it, including the party, but they have gone along with this charade. They are getting what they want, and this mess is all on the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:09:58pm

re: #255 Anymouse

I don’t have a telephone to be an advert outlet. If we could impose a tax on robo-callers of even 1¢ for robo-calls, I bet those would be substantially reduced.

If you have a telephone, you will get calls and robocalls from spammers who cold dial. Has nothing to do with anything legal.
I just file a complaint with my AG here in Kentucky, every time I get one of them (and there are a huge number of Medicare asshat companies calling me now because I have “come of the age”). He seriously goes after them.

261
BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:10:11pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Ya know, she has a point. Hummus is freaking delish. Especially when it has stuffsinnit.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:10:55pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:11:52pm

re: #254 lawhawk

Now I want jelly beans.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:13:01pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you have a telephone, you will get calls and robocalls from spammers who cold dial. Has nothing to do with anything legal.
I just file a complaint with my AG here in Kentucky, every time I get one of them (and there are a huge number of Medicare asshat companies calling me now because I have “come of the age”). He seriously goes after them.

Well, my only choice is to hang up. My AG could not care less.

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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:13:49pm

re: #263 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Now I want to go to a candy shop. I miss my jawbreaker lollipops.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:14:05pm

re: #256 Myron Falwell

Youngstown has had a history of electing people of questionable character (Traficant, for one). Plus the population has imploded since the steel mills began to shutter in 1977.

They want a piece of life that won’t ever be coming back.

I remember when that Steubenville rape case broke and the local Democratic block that got some media scrutiny just looked like a throwback to the old backroom gambling parlor days. I got the sense that in these dying old cities it matters little whether it’s D or R; it’s “how can I use the office to help my friends double-dip and get payoffs for contracts?”

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:14:41pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:14:55pm

re: #259 lawhawk

Shut up. Don’t give him any ideas!

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JasonA  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:15:08pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:16:05pm

re: #258 Myron Falwell

That this bill is even being proposed is a fucking crime.

[Embedded content]

My grandfather who worked for Argonne National Laboratory and then the EPA… He would have been a likely Trump voter, honestly. But he’d be flipping his shit over this.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:16:10pm

re: #269 JasonA

[Embedded content]

On our dime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:16:50pm

re: #258 Myron Falwell

That this bill is even being proposed is a fucking crime.

[Embedded content]

Sponsor: Rep. Gaetz, Matt [R-FL-1]
Co-sponsors (including my asshole congresscritter):

Rep. Massie, Thomas [R-KY-4], Rep. Palazzo, Steven M. [R-MS-4], Rep. Loudermilk, Barry [R-GA-11

congress.gov

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:19:05pm
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JasonA  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:19:27pm
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JasonA  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:21:49pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:22:27pm

re: #270 GlutenFreeJesus

My grandfather who worked for Argonne National Laboratory and then the EPA… He would have been a likely Trump voter, honestly. But he’d be flipping his shit over this.

I think my brother had a summer job at that lab. He’s at another one now, I’m wondering whether he’ll continue under Secretary Perry, or take an early retirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:24:54pm

re: #264 Anymouse

Well, my only choice is to hang up. My AG could not care less.

Guess he only does this for Republicans:
protectthegoodlife.nebraska.gov

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Timothy Watson  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:28:32pm
New documents confirm that President Donald Trump retains a direct tie to his business interests through a revocable trust now being overseen by one of his adult sons and a longtime executive of the Trump Organization.

Trump is the sole beneficiary of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, which is tied to his Social Security number as the taxpayer identification number, according to documents published online by the investigative nonprofit ProPublica. And Trump can revoke the trust, which was amended three days before his inauguration, at any time.

The details about the trust were included in a Jan. 27 letter to the Washington liquor board that notes Donald Trump Jr. and Allen Weisselberg are its new trustees. The Trump trust holds a liquor license for the hotel that opened last fall in the federally owned Old Post Office building. The trust contains a mix of cash from Trump’s sales of stock investments over the summer and his physical and intellectual properties, such as Trump Tower in New York, Mar-a-Lago in Florida and branding rights.

wtop.com

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Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:30:12pm

re: #275 JasonA

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:30:58pm

re: #274 JasonA

Wow. OMG. Tears…

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:31:07pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

I just realized that by virtue of being President Trump is eligible to be buried at Arlington.

Ugh!

Every night all the other Presidents buried there will rise from the grave, dig up the yam’s corpse and toss it out.

After a week people will get the idea and Trump will be treated like the radioactive waste he is. That is encased in concrete and buried in a desert far from any one.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:31:30pm
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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:32:54pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump from here on out shall be referred to as our so-called President.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:33:10pm

re: #276 wrenchwench

I think my brother had a summer job at that lab. He’s at another one now, I’m wondering whether he’ll continue under Secretary Perry, or take an early retirement.

I know what I’d do…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:34:20pm

Another bonus if Trump is impeached or forced out another way. No library! We have enough empty buildings as it is.

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Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:35:02pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:35:58pm

maybe…just maybe…because a federal judge understands the law better than you, a mere yam…

288
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:37:16pm

spidey sense is tingling.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:38:04pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Guess he only does this for Republicans:
protectthegoodlife.nebraska.gov

More than one Republican is on record here stating they only represent Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:39:02pm

re: #275 JasonA

[Embedded content]

Love some good fine arts humor.

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makeitstop  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:39:28pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

spidey sense is tingling.

Where?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:39:31pm

re: #290 ObserverArt

I need a nap. I read that as farts humor.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:39:41pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

spidey sense is tingling.

I have a 55 gallon drum of Troll Sauce that I will baste a MF’er with. Give me a reason.

GIVE ME A REASON!

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:40:14pm
295
Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:40:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:40:58pm

re: #236 JasonA

Great job, Bill. Truly fantastic thing you’ve helped accomplish here.

[Embedded content]

Yeah you sure showed them Bill. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:42:25pm

re: #243 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

GOPers are determined to resurrect the MBF nonsensical BS that Democrats did to Bork what they’re threatening to do with Gorsuch.

This is all such total BS.

Bork was granted hearings. He lost a committee vote, but instead of withdrawing his name from consideration, he asked for a full consideration from the US Senate. The US Senate voted him down, with a bunch of Republicans voting against him. His confirmation was denied by a bipartisan group of Senators.

Now, let’s advance to Garland - who was not only denied a hearing, but never got a vote. The reason? GOP bullshit. They obstructed and blocked a qualified candidate from getting a hearing or vote. Even the GOPers who moments before Obama nominated Garland had stated Garland would be acceptable. They all lied and blocked Garland for no reason other than to deny Obama the right of seating a nominee on the Supreme Court.

Even up to the election, you had GOPers claiming that they would block Clinton appointments to the US Supreme Court.

That’s not Borking. That’s absolute and total abdication of their oaths of office to advice and consent. This isn’t delaying a vote or voting the nominee down. This is pure obstruction for the sake of trying to shift the balance of the court to GOP hands.

Now, Gorsuch is facing opposition from Democrats who lack the numbers to stop him. But they’ll try - as they should. It is a stolen seat and Trump needs to be challenged on every single nomination - we’ve seen rank failures among his nominees when challenged with basic questions about the positions sought. Gorsuch is qualified - but no more or less than Garland. And it will forever be known as a #StolenSeat. The GOP must be held to pay for this treachery.

Robert Bork got a hearing and even opposition from Republicans. Any conservative who uses how Bork was “treated” to justify Garland is full of it. Bork got rejected by Dems because he was an out of touch extremist who made Scalia look like Earl Warren.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:43:06pm

re: #283 Moebym

[Embedded content]

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:44:25pm

Fiscal conservatism in action:

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:45:14pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Robert Bork got a hearing and even opposition from Republicans. Any conservative who uses how Bork was “treated” to justify Garland is full of it. Bork got rejected by Dems because he was an out of touch extremist who made Scalia look like Earl Warren.

That, and he was the hatchetman for Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:45:24pm

re: #298 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

Yep. I probably have some differing legal perspectives than Judge Robart but he’s someone who is literally trained in the law. Trump meanwhile is a toddler who doesn’t understand 8th grade civics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:45:53pm

re: #291 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

new registrations: at least two slightly different names registered within a couple of minutes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:46:51pm

re: #300 Anymouse

That, and he was the hatchetman for Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre.

Certainly. Reagan knew he was putting his finger in the Senate judiciary committee socket when he nominated Bork. Garland meanwhile is someone that Orrin Hatch literally said would be a nominee acceptable to Republicans who didn’t even get a hearing. I have no sympathy for Bork having his own words and actions being used to disqualify him.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:47:15pm
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Moebym  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:48:06pm

re: #275 JasonA

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:48:22pm
307
Decatur Deb  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:49:11pm

re: #49 Scottish Dragon

That Harry Leslie Smith timeline is worth a half-hour:

“You’re the grandchildren of the Greatest Generation so it’s in your blood to defeat evil and reclaim your birthright-democracy. #DonaldTrump
8 replies 90 retweets 266 likes”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:50:15pm

re: #306 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Title IX signed by the huge feminist, Richard Milhous Nixon.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:50:25pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:50:30pm

Nyet, thanks for the follow-back!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:50:42pm

re: #307 Decatur Deb

That Harry Leslie Smith timeline is worth a half-hour:

“You’re the grandchildren of the Greatest Generation so it’s in your blood to defeat evil and reclaim your birthright-democracy. #DonaldTrump
8 replies 90 retweets 266 likes”

He’s the English grandfather I never had.

312
Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:50:46pm

Just once I wish somebody would register an LGF account from India and NOT be a spammer. Just once. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.

313
Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:53:08pm
314
Anymouse  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:54:36pm
315
Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:54:50pm

The GOP is following fascist footsteps: calling regular voters paid provocateurs, anarchists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:55:26pm

re: #313 Anymouse

[Embedded content]

And that’s a relatively small amount received. Pretty funny for Garner to complain about “paid protesters” when his colleagues and maybe even he himself have gotten donations from the very person they’re voting on.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:56:02pm

re: #315 Stanley Sea

The GOP is following fascist footsteps: calling regular voters paid provocateurs, anarchists.

[Embedded content]

It’s not so fun when you’re the one being protested eh Tom.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 4, 2017 • 2:58:32pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Have some respect!

[Embedded content]

When I see that photo, I think of SFZ.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:00:27pm

re: #314 Anymouse

JFC….

320
BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:01:31pm

re: #315 Stanley Sea

The GOP is following fascist footsteps: calling regular voters paid provocateurs, anarchists.

[Embedded content]

Usually the main draw on Saturdays in Roseville is
Denio’s Market and Swap Meet. That ties up traffic forever.
(Yes, I have spent several weeks in Roseville.)

321
HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:02:09pm

re: #319 GlutenFreeJesus

JFC….

I’m old enough to remember gently mocking Bush for saying “But he forgot Poland.” At least Bush appreciated Poland as an ally. That’s the thing about Trump. He doesn’t appreciate nor respect our allies but he’s happy to kiss Putin’s ass.

322
Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:04:23pm
323
GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:05:07pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Shit. Even Poland sent troops into Afg.

324
Decatur Deb  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:08:31pm

For those keeping score: The National Park Service maintains a searchable online database that allows the lookup of Civil War veterans from both sides. The webpage url is “not found” today.

325
PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:09:53pm

re: #324 Decatur Deb

Why am I not surprised?

326
HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:10:00pm

re: #323 GlutenFreeJesus

Shit. Even Poland sent troops into Afg.

All of our major NATO allies did. Norway too. My dad’s watched a Netflix show I believe about NATO guys in Afghanistan.

327
HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:10:45pm

re: #324 Decatur Deb

For those keeping score: The National Park service maintains a searchable online database that allows the lookup of Civil War veterans from both sides. The service url is “not found” today.

Damn. Glad I have copies of my second great grandpa’s pension record. I’ve thought about joining a Union veteran descendants association at some point.

328
GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:11:02pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

And the Orange Anus wants to abandon them all.

329
Decatur Deb  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:11:18pm

re: #325 PhillyPretzel

Why am I not surprised?

“Ol’ Heelspurs” strikes again.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:11:18pm

I was thinking about something else. You know who’s been real quiet about Trump? Ron Paul.

331
HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:11:35pm

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

And the Orange Anus wants to abandon them all.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:12:36pm

The Aussies went to Iraq with us too even though it was greatly unpopular among their population and Trump has the nerve to say he treated the Aussie PM the way he did because “they don’t respect us.” Fuck you, Donald, American and Aussie troops have bled together in many conflicts.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:18:53pm

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Title IX signed by the huge feminist, Richard Milhous Nixon.

From King of the Hill:

COACH: This all goes back to Title IX, Dick Nixon’s biggest mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:20:44pm

re: #333 Timothy Watson

From King of the Hill:

Heh not that Watergate or Chilean coup thing. I think that’s what people need to know about today’s conservatives though. They want to overturn things that were implemented by conservative politicians well before many of us wereborn. They not only oppose Roe but also Eisenstadt and even Griswold in some cases.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:28:41pm

re: #246 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I have only moments ago discovered the pleasure of tweeting directly at Cheeto Benito. I called him a Russian tool.

Felt great. /Louis Tully

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:33:10pm

Charles P. Pierce has a way with words, part the infinity: talking about the DeVos hearings:

I was only half-listening because, frankly, I’d heard it all before until Lankford came up with a line of argument so toweringly ahistorical and inapt that I’m surprised every book in the Library of Congress across the street didn’t hurl itself off the shelf in despair because it had given up trying to educate anybody.

esquire.com

Pierce also subscribes to the solution to the dilemma of being a Patriots’ fan.

Despite the obvious ideological problems, I am staying a local yokel as regards to the big American football brawl on Sunday, but I heartily endorse Josh Gondelman’s solution for politically aware Patriots fans. For every touchdown, send some money to the progressive organization of your choice. I find this a very American way of solving a major dilemma.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:40:55pm

re: #336 BeachDem

Unlike the Orange One, Pierce often times has the best words.

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Archangelus  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:43:34pm

re: #17 Scottish Dragon

So this Michigan GOP official called for shooting demonstrators yesterday…

[Embedded content]

Just BC it was in English & he left out “Allah Akbar” doesn’t make him any less a terrorist advocating murder…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:44:09pm
340
Stanley Sea  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:48:57pm
341
b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:49:20pm

lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:52:53pm

re: #341 b.d.

lol

[Embedded content]

Instead of tweeting nonsense, donnie should be looking at what’s going on right outside of his “winter white house” right this moment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:53:31pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:54:55pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Instead of tweeting nonsense, donnie should be looking at what’s going on right outside of his “winter white house” right this moment.

Then it becomes West Facepalm Beach.

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b.d.  Feb 4, 2017 • 3:58:41pm

Holy crap.

Donald’s apology tour is ok though?

Screw this Putin loving pos.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2017 • 4:08:11pm

re: #345 b.d.

Holy crap.

Donald’s apology tour is ok though?

Screw this Putin loving pos.

[Embedded content]

He never misses an opportunity to kiss Putin’s ring.

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steve_davis  Feb 4, 2017 • 4:12:11pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

He may have confused the Kent State massacre with the Bowling Green one, where Abbie Hoffmann rolled a 300.

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John Hughes  Feb 4, 2017 • 4:17:23pm

re: #63 nines09

The German one is fucking brilliant!

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lizardofid  Feb 4, 2017 • 4:22:36pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

The Aussies went to Iraq with us too even though it was greatly unpopular among their population and Trump has the nerve to say he treated the Aussie PM the way he did because “they don’t respect us.” Fuck you, Donald, American and Aussie troops have bled together in many conflicts.

Had the heel spurs not left him in his own personal Viet Nam, and he made it over, he might have run across one or two Aussies.

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lizardofid  Feb 4, 2017 • 4:24:24pm

re: #341 b.d.

lol

[Embedded content]

Anyone got a phone number for Sally Yates?


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I Worked in a Private Prison—They Are a Cancer on American SocietyAmericans enjoy freedoms not heard of in other countries. We have freedoms of speech, expression, and a free press. We are able to openly oppose our leaders and even insult them without fear of reproach. For instance, if I wanted ...
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How Books Designed for Soldiers’ Pockets Changed Publishing Forever - Atlas Obscura In early June, 1944, tens of thousands of American troops prepared to storm the beaches of Normandy, France. As they lined up to board the invasion barges, each was issued something less practical than a weapon, but equally precious: ...
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The NFL Presents Faux Patriotism and the Double Standardblog.timesunion.com It never ceases to amaze me how some issues outrage certain segments of the population, while those very same people will twist themselves into a moral pretzel to overlook other behaviors which can be classified as downright criminal. Last ...
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New Atheist Lord Mayor of Belfast Takes Heat for Not Offering Prayer at Installation Ceremony The city of Belfast, Northern Ireland elected a new Lord Mayor, Nuala McAllister. She is a young mother (age twenty-eight and served on the city council for three years), and ran on a campaign of honesty. She has a ...
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Iran Tests Missile Despite Trump Pressure Iran says it has successfully tested a new-medium range missile, in defiance of US President Donald Trump. The launch of the Khoramshahr missile, which has a range of 2,000 km (1,242 miles), was shown on state TV. It is ...
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Russia Turns on Morgan Freeman Over Election ‘War’ Video Want to weed some alt right Putin pawns from your twitter fee? Just look for the ones attacking Morgan Freeman with Russia Today meme and themes this week. Russia has aimed its entire media arsenal at the veteran Hollywood ...
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Scientists Closing in on the Dawn of Plate Tectonics But over time the world gradually became less bleak. Today Earth also harbors light-colored rocks, like the granite that composes Half Dome in Yosemite National Park. But scientists remain uncertain as to when the world started to transition from ...
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Expert’s Advice: Don’t Engage With the Alt-Right on Campus The event, organized by the campus’s Division of Equity and Inclusion, comes ahead of a series of student-sponsored events next Sunday through Wednesday that are expected to bring right-wing speakers to campus for noon and evening rallies, although the ...
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