The Bob & Chez Show: Haters

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

Haters: The Chris Lavoie Suites and Casinos; SNL and Melissa McCarthy kicked serious ass; Betsy DeVos confirmed; Trump says the most unpatriotic thing ever; Trump still pushing fake voter fraud scam; The jihad against the Judiciary; The so called president; Reversing the tennis ball machine; Trump accuses press of not covering terrorism; Alex Jones is responsible for terrorism coverage story; and more.

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401 comments

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:36:49pm

Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable. This is how the Bannon/Trump admin will play out. They’ll bluster with BS and try to bully their way through the courts, but the courts are a bulwark against executive overreach and defend against unconstitutional acts. That’s their job. And by and large, they do it. Sometimes it’s in fits and starts. But the trajectory of progress is mostly forward.

The GOP hates this, which is why their ability to nominate radical right wing extremists to the bench will disrupt the progress. That’s why elections matter. That’s why winning the WH matters. It’s why midterms matter - and all the elections in between. /choir-preaching

Bannon/Trump will be unhinged when this decision is released. On that I have no doubt. It’s all they do. They will do nothing but claim that this court reduces Americans’ security, even though they can’t point to any actual threats that could have been prevented with this action in the past, and they specifically excluded countries that are known risks (and ones whose citizens did carry out attacks).

It violates due process, failed to be implemented consistently, and was done with malice aforethought. That was all done on purpose.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:38:50pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

We hoped our idols would save us so that we wouldn’t have to do anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:39:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:39:41pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:40:09pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:41:25pm
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KGxvi  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:42:06pm

re: #2 lawhawk

Never good to actually say in open court “I don’t think this argument is working, let’s try this one instead…”

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:42:27pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, SSSSOOORRRROOOSSSS is gonna be penniless at this rate. //

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:42:46pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:42:50pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

My fave Woodstock strip:

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CongoJack  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:44:27pm

My last planned message for the night… wanted thank everyone for their warm welcome.

Long live lizerdom!

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gocart mozart  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:48:28pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:49:27pm

re: #2 lawhawk

Trump’s going to be pissed that his lawyer didn’t use his “so called judge” line.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:49:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:50:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:50:22pm

re: #7 Myron Falwell

Wasn’t his father a KKK member? I think Trump is doing him proud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:50:47pm
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:51:20pm

Much butthurt I sense from the RWNJs today.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:52:05pm

Ow, ow, explitive deleted x 100 ow.

Got up early, went in and had an umbilical hernia repaired this morning. Ive been sleeping off the anesthesia at home and while sleeping the pain meds wore off. That made for a painful trip to the john. Oh well, popped 2 vicodin and awaiting for them to kick im while reading here about the nations schools saying ow since their enemy landed behind the lines today.

Any other disasters i missed?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:52:57pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amateur magician here — If I were Prez, I’d order my Sec of Education to install mandatory teaching of sleight of hand, especially how easy it is to misdirect. And boy oh boy is it easy. Just ask any entry-level lobbyist.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:53:22pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Debate between Sanders/Cruz? For fucks sake, why? May as well invite Jill Stein too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:53:30pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:53:47pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Ow, ow, explitive deleted x 100 ow.

Got up early, went in and had an umbilical hernia repaired this morning. Ive been sleeping off the anesthesia at home and while sleeping the pain meds wore off. That made for a painful trip to the john. Oh well, popped 2 vicodin and awaiting for them to kick im while reading here about the nations schools saying ow since their enemy landed behind the lines today.

Any other disasters i missed?

It’s a cumulative disaster, like separate streams of flowing lava converging on your home.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:56:17pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Just Trump offering to “destroy” a local politician one of his sheriff buddies was whining about today.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:57:38pm

re: #24 Skip Intro

Debate between Sanders/Cruz? For fucks sake, why? May as well invite Jill Stein too.

Cruz will present the Republican point of view; Bernie will present the Bernie point of view; nobody will present the Democratic point of view.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:58:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:59:11pm
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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 3:59:55pm
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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:00:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:01:29pm
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KGxvi  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:02:22pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

General rule, if a party doesn’t want discovery on something, it’s because something very bad is hiding amidst the obvious areas of discovery.

Also, when the judge says “I’m a little confused on if you’re relying on these cases as precedent or not.” you’re probably doing something wrong.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:02:43pm

re: #31 MsJ

My guess is most federal judges are not going to cut Trump & Co much slack. This particular EO was so transparently discriminatory that only hard-line GOP appointees will let it slide by.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:03:23pm

The DOJ lawyer is tripping all over his own tongue. He makes little sense and he’s stumbling over his every word.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:03:49pm

WOWOWOWOW!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:04:08pm

yikes!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:04:33pm

Apropos of nothing, Lucinda Williams’ “Drunken Angel” fits every occasion, birthday party or funeral procession. (My wife is blasting it right now for her b’day. Pray for our speakers!)

Lucinda Williams - Drunken Angel (Live at Farm Aid 2004)

But srsly, what a great song!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:05:06pm

re: #34 KGxvi

General rule, if a party doesn’t want discovery on something, it’s because something very bad is hiding amidst the obvious areas of discovery.

Also, when the judge says “I’m a little confused on if you’re relying on these cases as precedent or not.” you’re probably doing something wrong.

Flynn & Guiliani (Bannon too)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:05:15pm

re: #37 MsJ

WOWOWOWOW!

[Embedded content]

Oh, yeah, great argument to bring before federal appellate judges. DOJ just sank their chances before SCOTUS.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:05:20pm

Nice. Using Trump and Guiliani’s own words against DOJ atty now.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:05:25pm

re: #24 Skip Intro

Debate between Sanders/Cruz? For fucks sake, why? May as well invite Jill Stein too.

“How can we achieve the ultimate white noise?”

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:06:09pm

re: #43 Myron Falwell

“How can we achieve the ultimate white noise?”

Emphasis on white.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:06:54pm
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Timothy Watson  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:07:04pm

Does anyone have the names of the judges on the panel?

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:07:37pm

re: #46 Timothy Watson

Does anyone have the names of the judges on the panel?

William Canby Jr., Richard Clifton, Michelle Friedland.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:07:41pm

Listening to the 9th District Appeals court arguments here are rather fascinating - The Washington State Attorney has been providing citations of precedent, as well as other case law supporting why the travel ban should be blocked.

On the other hand, Orange Julius Caesar’s Justice Department attorney’s entire argument has hinged on “He’s the President and he is allowed to issue these edicts and dissent is not allowed.”

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:08:10pm

re: #46 Timothy Watson

Does anyone have the names of the judges on the panel?

Canby and Friedland both Democratic appointees

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:08:58pm

re: #48 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Listening to the 9th District Appeals court arguments here are rather fascinating - The Washington State Attorney has been providing citations of precedent, as well as other case law supporting why the travel ban should be blocked.

On the other hand, Orange Julius Caesar’s Justice Department attorney’s entire argument has hinged on “He’s the President and he is allowed to issue these edicts and dissent is not allowed.”

BeachDem posted this downstairs. It explains why this DOJ guy is arguing. He was just thrown in.

bloomberg.com

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:09:19pm
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KGxvi  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:09:34pm

Judge Clifton asking if there’s any authority for the counsel of the president telling departments and courts what the EO means. And why doesn’t the president amend the EO? DOJ lawyer saying White House counsel speaks for the president. A strict constructionist isn’t going to appreciate an argument beyond the four corners of the document like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:09:56pm

L. O. fucking L.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:10:48pm

I liked the incompetent lady lawyer Trump sent out the first time better. This guy makes her sound good by comparison.

“I don’t think I’m convincing you.” …no…you weren’t. Admitting it mid-argument wasn’t something I’ve ever seen Matlock do.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:11:00pm

From Last Thread:

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

No, Every Child Left Behind was the old attack on education.

This is the “Nuke Every School From Orbit, It’s the Only Way To Be Sure They’re Destroyed” Secretary of Education.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:11:25pm

I bet the yam wasn’t even listening. Watching Empire Today ads instead.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:11:54pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

yikes!

[Embedded content]

No.

Nononononononononono.

This is bad. This is very bad.

Already with the idea that nobody can say no to the Almighty TrumpyGod?

(checks watch)

We’re about 3 years and two Bannon-stage-managed terrorist attacks from that stage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:12:43pm

and we’re finished

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:12:49pm

re: #54 darthstar

I liked the incompetent lady lawyer Trump sent out the first time better. This guy makes her sound good by comparison.

“I don’t think I’m convincing you.” …no…you weren’t. Admitting it mid-argument wasn’t something I’ve ever seen Matlock do.

I suspect the DOJ knows it is trying to defend a case they know is unwinnable. They’re taking orders from Trump & Co.

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:12:50pm

re: #39 De Kolta Chair

Apropos of nothing, Lucinda Williams’ “Drunken Angel” fits every occasion, birthday party or funeral procession. (My wife is blasting it right now for her b’day. Pray for our speakers!)

[Embedded content]

But srsly, what a great song!

Mmmm that one is great but I have an even greater love for this one…

Right in Time (Lucinda Williams)

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:13:46pm

FRAKING FRAK!

Richard Hatch passed away at age 71. He died of pancreatic cancer; he had moved into hospice a few weeks ago.

Hatch is best known for playing Apollo on the original Battlestar Galactica, and had a brief but memorable role on the new BSG.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:14:20pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:14:34pm

re: #61 lawhawk

That’s very sad news.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:15:00pm

re: #36 MsJ

The DOJ lawyer is tripping all over his own tongue. He makes little sense and he’s stumbling over his every word.

That’s what happens when you’re straight up lying. Your tongue starts to feel ashamed and can’t function.

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KGxvi  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:15:10pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

I suspect the DOJ knows it is trying to defend a case they know is unwinnable. They’re taking orders from Trump & Co.

This is something DOJ lawyers know they are going to face occasionally. They still have an obligation to make the best arguments they can. It’s never a fun place to be (even being in private practice, I’ve been stuck in a spot where I’ve had to make arguments I didn’t really believe in), but that’s part of what lawyers are supposed to do in our system.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:15:27pm

Really frustrating that nobody in that Appeals Court hearing mentioned the fact that the EO specifically exempts minority religions within the named countries. Why exempt minority faiths if the explicit intent isn’t to single out muslims for exclusion?

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:15:48pm

BTW, apropos of the generally decent atmosphere here (notable by its absence, well, pretty much everywhere else politics is discussed), there is a new project that is a joint effort from the NY Times, Washington Post and open-source Mozilla.

It’s called “Talk.” It’s an attempt to impose sanity on the level of discourse in online forums and message boards. As I said: not needed here. But maybe it will hit the mute button on the fucking whackaloons, and they’ll go back to shouting at their socks at the bus station and writing shitsmeared Letters To The Editor that go directly into the trash can.

coralproject.net

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Timothy Watson  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:15:57pm

re: #61 lawhawk

FRAKING FRAK!

Richard Hatch passed away at age 71. He died of pancreatic cancer; he had moved into hospice a few weeks ago.

Hatch is best known for playing Apollo on the original Battlestar Galactica, and had a brief but memorable role on the new BSG.

Goddammit.

I only knew him from the reimagined series, but his role wasn’t “brief”. He was in 22 episodes.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:16:28pm

re: #65 KGxvi

This is something DOJ lawyers know they are going to face occasionally. They still have an obligation to make the best arguments they can. It’s never a fun place to be (even being in private practice, I’ve been stuck in a spot where I’ve had to make arguments I didn’t really believe in), but that’s part of what lawyers are supposed to do in our system.

I suspect they’re getting their marching orders from above.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:16:30pm
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:16:37pm

re: #61 lawhawk

FRAKING FRAK!

Richard Hatch passed away at age 71. He died of pancreatic cancer; he had moved into hospice a few weeks ago.

Hatch is best known for playing Apollo on the original Battlestar Galactica, and had a brief but memorable role on the new BSG.

Damn. I worked with him years ago on a movie in Philly, and then again when he was doing Battlestar Galactica. I have many photos I shot of him on set wearing a caftan.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:17:23pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

Really frustrating that nobody in that Appeals Court hearing mentioned the fact that the EO specifically exempts minority religions within the named countries. Why exempt minority faiths if the explicit intent isn’t to single out muslims for exclusion?

And if it is for our protection, why are none of those seven countries ones that had any even peripheral involvement with 9/11?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:18:03pm

re: #68 Timothy Watson

I immediately thought of Richard Hatch who was the first winner of Survivor.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:18:50pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

I immediately thought of Richard Hatch who was the first winner of Survivor.

I did, too…and I never watched a single episode of Survivor.

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:21:52pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:22:06pm

re: #65 KGxvi

This is something DOJ lawyers know they are going to face occasionally. They still have an obligation to make the best arguments they can. It’s never a fun place to be (even being in private practice, I’ve been stuck in a spot where I’ve had to make arguments I didn’t really believe in), but that’s part of what lawyers are supposed to do in our system.

Of course, lawyers are also not supposed to lie or fabricate evidence, which may be a challenge for any honest DOJ attorneys under this administration. They are probably not provided sufficient information to make a coherent argument.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:25:49pm

All of the arguments from the lawyers are why we need to mention every day that Trump and Bannon are going to be looking for any excuse to grab power and that people need to be ready to stop it. Maybe call your legislators and tell them that Trump wants to take their power away.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:27:12pm

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, lawyers are also not supposed to lie or fabricate evidence, which may be a challenge for any honest DOJ attorneys under this administration. They are probably not provided sufficient information to make a coherent argument.

“Here. Take this flimsy wooden sword, and this trash can lid shield. Now, go fight those tanks. And if you don’t beat them, it’s your fault.”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:27:22pm

re: #72 MsJ

And if it is for our protection, why are none of those seven countries ones that had any even peripheral involvement with 9/11?

I heard Kelly on NPR saying that Saudi Arabia has a great police force that does the work for us…….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:27:49pm

re: #61 lawhawk

He was supposed to appear in a Star Trek: New Voyages episode about a return trip to Yonada by the Enterprise.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:28:05pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

I suspect the DOJ knows it is trying to defend a case they know is unwinnable. They’re taking orders from Trump & Co.

Yes—because the attorneys that are arguing are long-time DOJ guys.

Flentje has worked for the Justice Department’s civil division for most of his 19-year career there. Kneedler, who has been with the solicitor general’s office since 1979 and served as deputy there for the past 24 years, has argued more than 100 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.

bloomberg.com

Plus, they just got shuffled in on the case hours ago.

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gocart mozart  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:28:20pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:30:27pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

Really frustrating that nobody in that Appeals Court hearing mentioned the fact that the EO specifically exempts minority religions within the named countries. Why exempt minority faiths if the explicit intent isn’t to single out muslims for exclusion?

The section of the EO that this pertains to specifically relates to religious persecution claims. The biggest problem is that I don’t trust the Trump administration not to lump all Muslims in together when in fact Sufi, Shia and Sunni refugees can all experience religious persecution in nominally “muslim majority” nations.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:31:29pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

I heard Kelly on NPR saying that Saudi Arabia has a great police force that does the work for us…….

Yeah and we’re supposed to be like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ right?

NOPE.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:31:40pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

I immediately thought of Richard Hatch who was the first winner of Survivor.

So did I.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:32:03pm

“When you have 30 minutes to argue and spend 15 minutes stuttering, that’s not a good day at the courthouse,” attorney says of DOJ lawyer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:32:38pm

re: #81 BeachDem

Yes—because the attorneys that are arguing are long-time DOJ guys.

Flentje has worked for the Justice Department’s civil division for most of his 19-year career there. Kneedler, who has been with the solicitor general’s office since 1979 and served as deputy there for the past 24 years, has argued more than 100 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.

bloomberg.com

Plus, they just got shuffled in on the case hours ago.

Terrifying thought — what happens when they are forced to leave and are replaced by Bannon’s guys? Those attorneys would have no trouble lying or manufacturing evidence in anything they present to the courts.

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wrenchwench  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:33:25pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

The section of the EO that this pertains to specifically relates to religious persecution claims. The biggest problem is that I don’t trust the Trump administration not to lump all Muslims in together when in fact Sufis, Shias and Sunnis refugees can all experience religious persecution in nominally “muslim majority” nations.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:33:26pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

The section of the EO that this pertains to specifically relates to religious persecution claims. The biggest problem is that I don’t trust the Trump administration not to lump all Muslims in together when in fact Sufis, Shias and Sunnis refugees can all experience religious persecution in nominally “muslim majority” nations.

ALL MOOOZLIMZ IS THE SAME!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:33:49pm

JEOPARDY SPOILER AHEAD

The winner’s answer tonight was “The Forest Service” and I’m all ain’t no such thing, it’s The Forestry Service, but darn if she was right. Had no idea. Thanks Trebak, thank you to hell, or at least Medicine Hat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:35:36pm

re: #90 De Kolta Chair

JEOPARDY SPOILER AHEAD

The winner’s answer was “The Forest Service” and I’m all ain’t no such thing, it’s The Forestry Service, but darn if she was right. Thanks Trebak, thank you to hell, or at least Medicine Hat.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:36:46pm
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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:38:26pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Terrifying thought — what happens when they are forced to leave and are replaced by Bannon’s guys? Those attorneys would have no trouble lying or manufacturing evidence in anything they present to the courts.

I’m expecting that attorney will hear You’re Fired soon.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:39:12pm

re: #90 De Kolta Chair

DOOD! Spoiler tag!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:39:21pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:39:26pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:44:09pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

They would still have to get by the judges, who aren’t stupid.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:44:12pm

Fucking “protest voters” and their asshole talking points. Man, am I sick of these purity trolls. Haven’t they done enough damage already?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:45:25pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Extreme right wing hyperbole + extreme left wing hyperbole = Himmler’s nut sack.

And I seriously doubt Stein is left wing at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:45:45pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Fucking “protest voters” and their asshole talking points. Man, am I sick of these purity trolls. Haven’t they done enough damage already?

Nope. They want to kill the Democratic Party now.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:47:15pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:49:05pm

“Fake evidence”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:49:26pm

re: #101 jaunte

Oh I smell a Duterte stink on this one.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:52:14pm

re: #101 jaunte

Thanks you. Now he can piss off Republican state governments as well.

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Droid Builder  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:52:41pm

re: #61 lawhawk

FRAKING FRAK!

Richard Hatch passed away at age 71. He died of pancreatic cancer; he had moved into hospice a few weeks ago.

Hatch is best known for playing Apollo on the original Battlestar Galactica, and had a brief but memorable role on the new BSG.

Holy Crap! I just saw him at a small Comic Con here in Colorado last August. Stopped and had a nice chat and go a picture of him with the R2 astromech droid.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:53:06pm

re: #101 jaunte

Trump President Bannon working on executive order to “fight crime” in urban areas that Trump again won’t read before he signs.

Fixed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:53:27pm

LOL

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:53:28pm

re: #101 jaunte

That’s only because he’s a big fan of Jesse Franco’s Spanking & Yanking In Latex parts 1-16, available only in VHS.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:54:10pm

Tweet deleted … 😕

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:54:36pm

Twitter is fucked up right now.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:57:10pm

re: #60 William Lewis

Love it!!!!!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:57:43pm

re: #39 De Kolta Chair

Apropos of nothing, Lucinda Williams’ “Drunken Angel” fits every occasion, birthday party or funeral procession. (My wife is blasting it right now for her b’day. Pray for our speakers!)

[Embedded content]

But srsly, what a great song!

Love that! I saw her on the Car Wheels tour in a medium-sized bar. She was great, but her band just rocked!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:58:34pm

Sheesh-Hair Furor can’t leave it alone….

AP: Trump says he would have won Minnesota with 1 more visit

WASHINGTON — The 2016 election is never far from President Donald Trump’s mind.

When Trump met Tuesday with a group of sheriffs from around the country, he saw not just lawmen but battleground states.

Trump talked about his victories with officials from Pennsylvania and North Carolina. And when a sheriff from Minnesota introduced himself, Trump said if he had campaigned in the state one more time he would have won it.

More than two weeks into his presidency, the president is still fixated on the 2016 campaign.

This man is not well-and he has the biscuit in his pocket to boot.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:59:00pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter is fucked up right now.

I find it refreshing when Twitter crashes.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:59:28pm

re: #114 darthstar

I find it refreshing when Twitter crashes.

I suspect Trump finds it infuriating.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 4:59:52pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter is fucked up right now.

As opposed to regular Twitter?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:01:48pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh please, please, pleeeeeeaaase let there be discovery.

Please supply the following:

1. Steve Bannon’s laptop and Outlook mail file
2. Steve Bannon’s international call records
3. Steve Bannon’s sticky notes
4. Steve Bannon’s recording devices he hides in the sloppy folds of his suit

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:01:56pm

Looks like Twitter’s back. Trying again…

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:02:15pm

re: #101 jaunte

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The Brownshirts are ready.

Actually salivating.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:02:56pm
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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:02:59pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

The Brownshirts are ready.

Actually salivating.

I don’t even have a brown shirt.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:04:27pm

Fight crime, huh?

Let me guess, slash all the money for oversight, and “outsource” to “volunteers”. You know, to save money. “Community policing” by REAL Americans!

Trumpenpolizei, here we come

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scottslemmons  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:05:41pm

re: #101 jaunte

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Trump is really champing at the bit to declare martial law in Chicago and NYC, isn’t he?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:07:17pm

Made up quote.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:08:07pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nope. They want to kill the Democratic Party now.

Which is why tonight Cruz and Bernie will debate Obamacare, with nary a Democrat invited to share a point of view. Sigh.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:09:27pm

OpSec News from Ars Technica: Scoping out the Wi-Fis with WarCollar’s DopeScope and Booby Trap

The company got its name from a device Bransfield built as part of a project he presented at a DefCon 22 talk entitled “Weaponizing your Pets: The WarKitteh and the Denial of Service Dog.”

Bransfield recounted:

I took a microcontroller, GPS, Wi-Fi, Battery, and storage and got it down to a form factor that would fit on a cat collar. I sent the cat wandering around Washington DC doing Wi-Fi Scanning for me. The product worked, the talk was very successful and soon people were asking me to make these things—so I created WarCollar Industries.
Bransfield’s side-line hardware operation soon became a security consulting company as well before the company he worked for was acquired by another, much larger company.

Bransfield and WarCollar have collaborated on another hardware project: an Internet of Things corset configured with captive portal access points. The “Booby Trap”, designed and worn by security researcher Nicole ‘AmazonV’ Schwartz, was equipped with malicious access points broadcasting common access point names (such as “attwifi”, “xfinitywifi”, “NETGEAR” and “LINKSYS”). The low-power access points would connect with smart phones whose Wi-Fi was turned on once they got into range. It displayed a “captive portal” web page on the victim devices announcing, “You’ve been caught in my Booby Trap.”

How effective? Very….

The current incarnation of the [Booby Trap] software advertises multiple WiFi SSID’s and allows anyone to connect. Once a victim connects to the access point (AP), their MAC and the SSID they connected to is recorded, and they are re-directed to a fixed landing page. The landing page is a mild reminder that allowing your WiFi enabled devices to connect automatically to an AP may be a bad idea. When captured victims attempted to browse the web, they were presented with a picture of AmazonV in her corset stating “You’ve Been Caught in my Booby Trap.” While this solution itself is relatively harmless with some minor modifications to the code, it is possible to intercept the web traffic, track user activity and even fool someone into providing their user credentials.

The point—one we’ve made before in Ars Tech Lab with our own demonstration—is that leaving a mobile device’s Wi-Fi turned on can be a big security risk. In 2015, researchers at Wandera demonstrated that this sort of Wi-Fi captive portal could be used to spoof Apple Pay screens and potentially steal credit card data. But even at security conferences largely populated by the paranoid, devices were easy victims for the Booby Trap. At DefCon in Las Vegas last August, the Booby Trap “caught” 1432 devices and identifoed 1238 unique hardware (MAC) addresses. At this year’s Shmoocon, with a much smaller attendance (about 2,000 versus the over 20,000 at DefCon), 167 devices were “caught”, with 156 unique MAC address.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:10:01pm

re: #123 scottslemmons

Trump is really champing at the bit to declare martial law in Chicago and NYC, isn’t he?

And it will be poorly written and ineptly executed just like every other EO President Bannon has written.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:10:40pm

I suspect the Twitter outage was caused by the switchover to the Russian servers…

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:11:08pm

re: #125 BeachDem

Which is why tonight Cruz and Bernie will debate Obamacare, with nary a Democrat invited to share a point of view. Sigh.

That’s going on tonight? That reminds me not to watch a single nanosecond of it.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:12:09pm

I wasn’t a big fan of Age of Empire III in the first place (II rules!), but the Bowling Green Massacre add-on was just fucking ridiculous.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:13:03pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:13:43pm
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Moebym  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:14:24pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Fucking “protest voters” and their asshole talking points. Man, am I sick of these purity trolls. Haven’t they done enough damage already?

There’s very little sunlight between the purity trolls on the left and the far-right. They both have one goal in mind - crush the establishment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:14:33pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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He should ask Obama about that…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:14:43pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

He’s really pissed it’s not like a corporate gig where he can have anyone start anywhere immediately.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:18:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:18:16pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:18:23pm

Matt Stoller is the dumbest dumbass ever.

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:20:17pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:21:27pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:24:23pm

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Matt Stoller is the dumbest dumbass ever.

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Yeesh, dumbest dumbass ever doesn’t come close to describing this freak.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:24:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:25:26pm

re: #141 De Kolta Chair

Yeesh, dumbest dumbass ever doesn’t come close to describing this freak.

A private citizen minding his own business can accept an invitation from another private citizen to be a guest on private property.

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:26:01pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:26:45pm

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Matt Stoller is the dumbest dumbass ever.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:26:51pm
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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:28:07pm

re: #126 Eric The Fruit Bat

Thanks. I just updated my settings.

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:28:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:29:54pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Matt’s got the trump “low class” part right, though…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:32:07pm

re: #148 lawhawk

Four words from NYC: That’s my home girl. ;-)

And so proud.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:35:45pm

re: #93 MsJ

I’m expecting that attorney will hear You’re Fired soon.

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ. Then he’ll replace all of them with sleazy business lawyers he already uses and any lawyer, junior lawyer, legal secretaries and other staff they can bring along.

It’ll be great. The best…this I can tell you, believe me.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:36:07pm

re: #150 De Kolta Chair

Four words from NYC: That’s my home girl. ;-)

And so proud.

And mine, too! Sonia and I were at the same uni, but not in the same graduating class.

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:36:07pm

Bannon/Trump are running with the Democrats being soft on crime. This is as I’ve been writing for a while. They’re going to craft a BS excuse to clamp down on civil and voting rights in the name of law and order.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:37:23pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ. Then he’ll replace all of them with sleazy business lawyers he already uses and any lawyer, junior lawyer, legal secretaries and other staff they can bring along.

It’ll be great. The best…this I can tell you, believe me.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but he can’t fire any DOJ employees covered by civil service regulations. He could sack political appointees, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:37:29pm

WTFITS?
I think he’s considering how to seize all the property of people who say things he doesn’t like. Because despots do that.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:37:32pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ. Then he’ll replace all of them with sleazy business lawyers he already uses and any lawyer, junior lawyer, legal secretaries and other staff they can bring along.

It’ll be great. The best…this I can tell you, believe me.

Liberty U will provide the finest, most Trump compliant lawyers anywhere.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:38:45pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ.

The only reason he hasn’t already is he sleeps and watches tv most of the day and at around 6 pm he forgets he’s the prez. .

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Moebym  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:39:17pm

All this. All this because of 80,000 votes in three states.

The fate of a nation, sealed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:40:45pm

re: #154 wheat-dogg

Correct me if I’m wrong, but he can’t fire any DOJ employees covered by civil service regulations. He could sack political appointees, though.

Oh, I know. But he will still try. This is Trump we are talking about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:40:49pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

Liberty U will provide the finest, most Trump compliant lawyers anywhere.

and Regent

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:42:26pm

God we’re fucked.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:43:20pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

Liberty U will provide the finest, most Trump compliant lawyers anywhere.

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Regent

…and Hillsdale

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:43:21pm

re: #161 MsJ

God we’re fucked.

And they didn’t even buy us a drink first. I’ll bet they don’t call like they promised, either.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:44:28pm

BTW, I wouldn’t hate Betsy Devos nearly so much if they’d stop showing her with droopy Joe Lieberman behind her every time they talk about her confirmation hearing.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:44:54pm

I still haven’t forgiven myself for voting for that fucker (because he was attached to Gore) in 2000.

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MsJ  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:45:30pm

re: #163 darthstar

And they didn’t even buy us a drink first. I’ll bet they don’t call like they promised, either.

Where are all these Freedom Loving “patriots” as our freedoms are being stripped away?

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:45:34pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:46:06pm

Sean Spicer can’t catch a break. He’s being trolled on Venmo now.

buzzfeed.com

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lawhawk  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:46:58pm

re: #168 wheat-dogg

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:47:49pm

re: #161 MsJ

re: #161 MsJ

God we’re fucked.

Look on the bright side, unlike Reagan and the Bushes he’s not backed by total incompetents but by bargain basement total incompetents.

Oh wait…

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:51:51pm

I don’t know why the Senate confirmed Betsy Devos when she said guns were a good defense against bears in schools. Everyone who knows anything knows the golden rule about bears.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:52:10pm

re: #169 lawhawk

Spicer’s error was not gunning down reporters at his first press conference. Trump will never forgive him for that.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:52:14pm

re: #168 wheat-dogg

“…While you can reject requests for payments, you cannot reject someone sending you money. Which…in the case of a government official like Sean Spicer, is kind of weird. Spicer has no way of stopping me from sending him $100,000 and writing it “Trump payola, per our conversation” in the message.”
buzzfeed.com

This could be dangerous even for Trump admin people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:53:16pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ. Then he’ll replace all of them with sleazy business lawyers he already uses and any lawyer, junior lawyer, legal secretaries and other staff they can bring along.

It’ll be great. The best…this I can tell you, believe me.

Not if Sessions hires racist lawyers first.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:53:46pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Ow, ow, explitive deleted x 100 ow.

Got up early, went in and had an umbilical hernia repaired this morning. Ive been sleeping off the anesthesia at home and while sleeping the pain meds wore off. That made for a painful trip to the john. Oh well, popped 2 vicodin and awaiting for them to kick im while reading here about the nations schools saying ow since their enemy landed behind the lines today.

Any other disasters i missed?

Yowch!
Hope you’re feeling better right quick.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:54:01pm

Alexa, play Particle.

I fuckin’ love this unscented scented candle thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:54:23pm

Freedom Caucus and Liberty Caucus guy:

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:55:18pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:55:46pm

Here is 42 minutes of Al Franken talking about what a mistake it is to make DeVos the Secretary of Education. He sounds really tired but he had a LOT to say.

Facebook

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:57:02pm

re: #154 wheat-dogg

Correct me if I’m wrong, but he can’t fire any DOJ employees covered by civil service regulations. He could sack political appointees, though.

Didn’t Congress just pass some legislation that allows the DOJ to reduce pay to $1? Or am I not recalling that properly?

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 5:57:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:00:09pm

re: #178 jaunte

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The GOP is really trying to make that letter disappear…

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:00:45pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

They will fail.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:01:09pm
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bratwurst  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:01:38pm

I don’t know about you, but I would much prefer to sit in silence than hear two self-aggrandizing assholes who each played their own role in helping Trump get elected debate healthcare in a CNN made for TV event.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:02:11pm

re: #176 darthstar

Alexa, play Particle.

I fuckin’ love this unscented scented candle thing.

The first time I saw Particle I was told by some friends that their shows were trippy so it was best not to trip heavily yourself…then I saw my guy who has things for sale while I was standing in line to get into the show and I tripped heavily…just like my first Dead show back in the day. It was fine…intense, but fine.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:02:12pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freedom Caucus and Liberty Caucus guy:

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:04:08pm

re: #186 darthstar

The first time I saw Particle I was told by some friends that their shows were trippy so it was best not to trip heavily yourself…then I saw my guy who has things for sale while I was standing in line to get into the show and I tripped heavily…just like my first Dead show back in the day. It was fine…intense, but fine.

Their keyboard player, Steve Molitz, is totally “old school” with the synthesizer stack…he’s done keys for Phil & Friends too…but it’s off the hook good keys if you’re into that shit.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:04:22pm
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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:05:46pm

I live in Texas, folks. For those of you who have been lucky enough not to live here, let me tell you this: You are not fucked. There are still things to do, fights to have, and struggles to win.

My wife was telling me that the 84 Lumber CEO is a Republican and he felt that the message in the commercial needed to be made. There are people out there we can work with to minimize Trump and recover with hard work.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:05:48pm

Okay…time to stop talking music. Here’s my boy, Banjo…walking on water like any other savior.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:06:53pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:10:19pm

re: #190 Belafon

I live in Texas, folks. For those of you who have been lucky enough not to live here, let me tell you this: You are not fucked. There arearly still things to do, fights to have, and struggles to win.

My wife was telling me that the 84 Lumber CEO is a Republican and he felt that the message in the commercial needed to be made. There are people out there we can work with to minimize Trump and recover with hard work.

Thank you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:12:04pm

re: #190 Belafon

I live in Texas, folks. For those of you who have been lucky enough not to live here, let me tell you this: You are not fucked. There arearly still things to do, fights to have, and struggles to win.

My wife was telling me that the 84 Lumber CEO is a Republican and he felt that the message in the commercial needed to be made. There are people out there we can work with to minimize Trump and recover with hard work.

I’m in Kentucky and right about now, seeing all the bullshit legislation that’s happening in our new all-GOP General Assembly….I think Kentucky is going to give Texas a run for worse state in the union.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:12:33pm

At his shitty blog, Chuck C. Johnson has now doxed every protester who was arrested at the inauguration - addresses, phone numbers, photos, all their personal info.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:13:05pm
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Moebym  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:13:08pm

This will surely not surprise any of you.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:13:21pm

PBS is doing a special about Oklahoma city and back then the Nazis here were talking about out how whites about bound Christians were becoming minorities and they needed to take it back.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:13:54pm

This is what should happen to both of these clowns on CNN right now….

Ode to the Nut Shot | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim

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weave  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:17:30pm

Ted Cruz just offered prayers to someone with breast cancer…. That’s going to help a lot.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:18:11pm

re: #197 Moebym

McConnell shows his true stripes. Why Kentucky continues to elect him is mind-blowing.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:20:07pm

re: #197 Moebym

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:20:53pm

re: #201 Eric The Fruit Bat

McConnell shows his true stripes. Why Kentucky continues to elect him is mind-blowing.

You could say the same thing about 90% of the Republicans in government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:21:49pm

re: #201 Eric The Fruit Bat

McConnell shows his true stripes. Why Kentucky continues to elect him is mind-blowing.

it’s those gullible coal supporters

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #191 darthstar

Nice doggy, love you. you;re so cute, but gosh darn it I’m a cat person…

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:22:55pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:22:58pm

re: #178 jaunte

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I just flipped on c-span—they really censured EW for “impugning” Session and are voting on whether to let her speak during the debate? What fresh bullshit and hell is this?

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Mike Lamb  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:23:29pm

re: #189 Anymouse

One off. Duh.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:24:45pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

Trump will fire everyone in the DOJ. Then he’ll replace all of them with sleazy business lawyers he already uses and any lawyer, junior lawyer, legal secretaries and other staff they can bring along.

It’ll be great. The best…this I can tell you, believe me.

Well, you know who else purged the judicial arm of his government and filled it with loyalists who could be removed for any reason whatsoever (or even none at all)?

Nope, nothing to see here at all.
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No Depression  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:26:18pm

re: #197 Moebym

This will surely not surprise any of you.

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Fuck the GOP.

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Moebym  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:27:03pm

re: #205 De Kolta Chair

No rule against loving both. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:27:59pm

re: #207 BeachDem

I just flipped on c-span—they really censured EW for “impugning” Session and are voting on whether to let her speak during the debate? What fresh bullshit and hell is this?

There is a vote happening right now on allowing Sen. Warren to speak.

This is such bullshit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:28:17pm

re: #209 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Well, you know who else purged the judicial arm of his government and filled it with loyalists who could be removed for any reason whatsoever (or even none at all)?

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Hopefully this will actually not come to pass. However, it is possible that career attorneys may resign because they cannot tolerate working for this parade of horribles.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:29:11pm

Marcello Mastroianni and Federico Fellini

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:29:52pm

Now, we have always never had civil rights heroes.

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nines09  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:30:11pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:30:38pm

re: #211 Moebym

No rule against loving both. :)

In most states.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:30:46pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:31:02pm

Republicans are trying to destroy the 20th century.

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HypnoToad  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:31:20pm

re: #209 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Well, you know who else purged the judicial arm of his government and filled it with loyalists who could be removed for any reason whatsoever (or even none at all)?

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Hitler eventually turned on Russia, which was one of the main reasons he lost WW2
Would trump’s handlers repeat that mistake? (Assuming they aren’t all Russian too)
After all trump studied Hitler & German history, so he might be leaning in that direction.

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Tigger2  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:31:32pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:32:57pm

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

That’s what happens when you’re straight up lying. Your tongue starts to feel ashamed and can’t function.

That is why Conway had her tongue substituted with one of these…

phenomena.nationalgeographic.com

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:33:33pm

re: #212 Backwobuods_Sleuth

There is a vote happening right now on allowing Sen. Warren to speak.

This is such bullshit.

I could catch flies, my mouth is opened so wide. What a travesty—the debate does not have a fucking thing to do with Sessions being a senator—if anyone should be censured, it’s McConnell.

Fuck—they voted to not let her talk. This is complete and total assholiness of the first degree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:33:59pm

“Warren in violation of Rule 19” the caption at CSPAN.

Under the Senate’s “Rule 19,” senators are not allowed to “directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator.”

motion to allow her to speak fails.

The words of Coretta Scott King violate that rule, apparently.

jeebus

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:34:00pm

re: #184 jaunte

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Hope no Dem votes for him.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:34:13pm

re: #223 BeachDem

I could catch flies, my mouth is opened so wide. What a travesty—the debate does not have a fucking thing to do with Sessions being a senator—if anyone should be censured, it’s McConnell.

Fuck—they voted to not let her talk. This is complete and total assholiness of the first degree.

It is not assholishness: It is a coup.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:34:52pm

re: #196 darthstar

Listening to these two twats…Bread and Circuses on steriods.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:35:39pm

Now the GOP is arguing about entering the entire letter into the record, saying that what little bit Warren read has already been read into the record.

Leahy is speaking now and he is livid.

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No Depression  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:35:48pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Warren in violation of Rule 19” the caption at CSPAN.

motion to allow her to speak fails.

The words of Coretta Scott King violate that rule, apparently.

jeebus

The Grand Old Party is just a giant Klan rally at this point.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:36:15pm

re: #226 Anymouse

It is not assholishness: It is a coup.

That’s exactly what this is.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:36:51pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:36:56pm

re: #225 Patricia Kayden

Hope no Dem votes for him.

Won’t matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:37:36pm

“Mr President, let’s not go down this path….it’s not good for America…it’s not good for free speech…” —Leahy

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:37:44pm

re: #222 Scottish Dragon

Like Conway’s lies, a source of nightmares.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:37:47pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leahy is speaking now and he is livid.

As he should be.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:38:00pm
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nines09  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:38:25pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Mr President, let’s not go down this path….it’s not good for America…it’s not good for free speech…” —Leahy

He spelled Emperor wrong. Said president. Nope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:38:44pm

Jim Risch (R-ID) whining about civility…he’s the one who objected to Warren reading the letter.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:38:45pm

re: #218 Anymouse

“That’s nice sounding and all, but it’s the Aussies who are behind ISIS!!” —Donald Trump or Steve Bannon or most probably Rupert Murdoch, because daddy issues.

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Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:39:30pm

re: #236 jaunte

Because he’s a Republican.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:39:36pm

re: #81 BeachDem

Yes—because the attorneys that are arguing are long-time DOJ guys.

Flentje has worked for the Justice Department’s civil division for most of his 19-year career there. Kneedler, who has been with the solicitor general’s office since 1979 and served as deputy there for the past 24 years, has argued more than 100 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.

bloomberg.com

Plus, they just got shuffled in on the case hours ago.

Yea, when I’m going to argue a case before a US Circuit Court, I prefer to have more than a few hours to prepare.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:39:50pm
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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:39:59pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jim Risch (R-ID) whining about civility…he’s the one who objected to Warren reading the letter.

“Democrats won’t follow the rule about not disrespecting a white man! Waaah!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:40:27pm

They are now using Rule 19 to stifle ANYTHING that is not nice about Sessions.

GOOD FUCKING GRIEF

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Kragar  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:40:36pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:15pm

“The rule does not allow truth to be evidence” —- OMFG

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:45pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:51pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:54pm

re: #176 darthstar

Alexa, play Particle.

I fuckin’ love this unscented scented candle thing.

Tell me about it. All it needs is a wifi connect? I’m so far behind that I’m going to remind I’m referring to Alexa.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:56pm

This is fucking complete and utter fucking bullshit.

Did they censure Lindsey when he “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”

Of fucking course not.

Republicans make me sick. I have nothing but fucking disdain for every fucking Republican officeholder and for anyone anywhere who ever votes for a Republican again.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:41:56pm

re: #236 jaunte

“The truth can not be evidence of a sleight.”

Holy Fuck.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:42:39pm

William,
So sorry to see you hurting today. Heal well, heal quickly. Maybe a little Ms Hale will help.

Iframe

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:43:38pm

So, they are using that rule that Senators are not to denigrate a fellow Senator.

Thing is, at this point he isn’t a Senator…he’s trying to leave the Senate for the Attorney General position.

McConnell the biggest hypocritical rat in the GOP rat’s nest.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:43:55pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

“The truth can not be evidence of a sleight.”

Holy Fuck.

Did Leahy say this, or McConnell?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:44:45pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:45:01pm

Coretta Scott King calls only Sessions ATTEMPT at voter intimidation “shabby,” not the man himself.

McConnell is a liar.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:45:16pm

re: #196 darthstar

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WHY? For christ’s sake why?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:45:29pm

LOL, loving Sen Whitehouse right now using a hypothetical about a Senator, being considered for a cabinet position, being an established fact to be a horse thief, asking if that would be disallowed to be mentioned in debate.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:45:58pm

re: #256 Scottish Dragon

And yet they have to go to the courts to do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:46:01pm

re: #255 Anymouse

Did Leahy say this, or McConnell?

It’s whoever is currently sitting in as President of the Senate. I don’t recognize who it is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:46:39pm

re: #255 Anymouse

The presiding President of Senate: Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD)

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:47:06pm

re: #251 BeachDem

This is fucking complete and utter fucking bullshit.

Did they censure Lindsey when he “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”

Of fucking course not.

Republicans make me sick. I have nothing but fucking disdain for every fucking Republican officeholder and for anyone anywhere who ever votes for a Republican again.

I can’t really hold that position on voters where I live, due to the appalling lack of media available (except for a conservative-leaning newspaper and hate/Christian radio). Voters here only get what the right-wing religious propaganda machine wants them to know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:48:00pm

re: #262 Eric The Fruit Bat

The presiding President of Senate: Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD)

and he has to rely on a woman whispering to him and sliding papers to him as to what the rules are.
He has NO FUCKING CLUE

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:48:12pm

Welcome to The Jungle.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:48:15pm

re: #232 Skip Intro

Won’t matter.

Even if it won’t matter, there had better be a show of support and sanity and I will be really pissed if a single Dem votes for the little racist prick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:49:16pm

Rubio is now GOPsplaining nonsense.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:49:34pm

Oh, shut up, little Marco. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:49:42pm

2 weeks in it’s hearts and tongues. Wait ‘til next year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:50:17pm

re: #269 jaunte

2 weeks in it’s hearts and tongues. Wait ‘til next year.

it will be spinal cords and brain tissue.

Mad cow disease for EVERYBODY!!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:51:13pm

re: #268 BeachDem

Gaah…SHUT UP, RUBIO!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:52:23pm

BREAKING — In a 52-48 vote the US Senate has decided that America is way too uptight and everybody should let their freak flags fly!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:52:46pm

I dunno…sounds like Rubio is supporting Warren’s right to read that letter and to continue speaking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:53:29pm

re: #269 jaunte

2 weeks in it’s hearts and tongues. Wait ‘til next year.

Hearts and tongues of Trump’s enemies.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:53:36pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rubio is now GOPsplaining nonsense.

re: #268 BeachDem

Oh, shut up, little Marco. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

I was looking up phrases the other day. I came across “Empty Suit” and sure enough there was a picture of Marco Rubio.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:53:59pm

The Senate Rules are being manipulated by McConnell to shut down debate.

I need a stronger word than fuck..

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:54:30pm

I’m livid. Just livid.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:54:50pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

it will be spinal cords and brain tissue.

Mad cow disease for EVERYBODY!!!!

I am already on the no blood and organ donation list thanks to the BSE problem in Europe when I was stationed in Spain.

This is one of the reasons when liberals propose that organ donations should be “opt-out” that I am opposed to that suggestion. There are millions of people in the category of “may not donate” that do not realise they are.

(Of note, FDA regulations prohibit blood donations from people who lived in Europe for certain periods. Abolishing the FDA or regulations would allow persons with vCJD to donate blood or organs. vCJD cannot be detected by a test, only by an autopsy.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:54:55pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno…sounds like Rubio is supporting Warren’s right to read that letter and to continue speaking.

OK, I was wrong…he’s now saying the Senate can not work if they can’t be “respectful” to each other.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:56:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:56:06pm

Schumer now talking about selective enforcement of Rule 19

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:57:09pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno…sounds like Rubio is supporting Warren’s right to read that letter and to continue speaking.

Maybe he is doing his typical acting job, sounding all sincere and correct. Then he’ll go along with whatever other Republicans do. That is his usual play. Just like he was the little hard ass against Trump in the GOP debates, and then he folded like a well-worn dollar bill and said he couldn’t see 4 more Obama years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:57:24pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, great-Hatch is up.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:57:48pm

Great moments in Comity

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:58:43pm

Orrin Hatch takes UMBRAGE at Schumer’s comments.
And he is horrified, YES HORRIFIED, by Warren’s comments.

“Think of his wife! She’s a fine person!” —Hatch

“He’s not a terrible person!” —Hatch

jesus fucking christ.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:59:34pm

re: #280 Charles Johnson

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Can we say that the Republican party has been completely taken over by a group of fascists to its very core now? There really isn’t any other way that this can be described.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 6:59:39pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shut up, Hatch, you doddering old coot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:00:11pm

Hey Orrin, the entire reason for debates is for BOTH SIDES.

He’s upset that Warren couldn’t come up with a single nice thing to say about Sessions.

Boo Fucking Hoo.

Truth hurts.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:00:17pm

Oh no—Orin finds criticism offensive. Where is my fainting couch.

I guess there’s no reason to hold the fucking hearings if the nominee is a senator—the delicate flowers just can’t take it.

Now fucking Orin is testifying for Sessions—about what a fine, kind, considerate man he is.

Fuck you, Orin Hatch and the horse’s ass you rode in on.

The last time I was this pissed off watching c-span was during the Terri
Schiavo bullshit—that’s when my political activism was reawakened. Maybe tonight will raise some new activists!

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:00:31pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:00:43pm

Good job, President Bannon

Yemen Withdraws Permission for U.S. Antiterror Ground Missions

“…Angry at the civilian casualties incurred last month in the first commando raid authorized by President Trump, Yemen has withdrawn permission for the United States to run Special Operations ground missions against suspected terror groups in the country, according to American officials.

Grisly photographs of children apparently killed in the crossfire of a 50-minute firefight during the raid caused outrage in Yemen. A member of the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, Chief Petty Officer William Owens, was also killed in the operation.
mobile.nytimes.com

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:00:49pm

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Hearts and tongues of Trump’s enemies.

Apropos of something, I french-kissed a Republican in a Dairy Queen parking lot once and gol’darnit, it was fun!

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:01:04pm

This is fucking unreal…

huffingtonpost.com?

WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump was confused about the dollar: Was it a strong one that’s good for the economy? Or a weak one?

So he made a call ― except not to any of the business leaders Trump brought into his administration or even to an old friend from his days in real estate. Instead, he called his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, according to two sources familiar with Flynn’s accounts of the incident.

Flynn has a long record in counterintelligence but not in macroeconomics. And he told Trump he didn’t know, that it wasn’t his area of expertise, that, perhaps, Trump should ask an economist instead.

Trump was not thrilled with that response ― but that may have been a function of the time of day. Trump had placed the call at 3 a.m., according to one of Flynn’s retellings ― although neither the White House nor Flynn’s office responded to requests for confirmation about that detail.

……

Unsurprisingly, Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:01:12pm

re: #289 BeachDem

Oh no—Orin finds criticism offensive. Where is my fainting couch.

Watch your step…there be pearls rolling across the Senate floor after all that clutching.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:01:37pm

“…a steep path to oblivion.” -Hatch.

We’re already on our way, Orrin-your greasing the skis isn’t helping.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:02:03pm

Hey, Hatch, how about YOU FUCKING GROW UP.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:02:14pm

OT: Philly is now under a Winter Storm Watch. At least I have that day off so I do not have to work in that weather. weather.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:02:52pm

OMG
“Even if everything she said was true, it wasn’t the right thing to do… I’m appalled at what the Democrats are doing to him.” — Hatch

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:02:55pm

re: #291 jaunte

Good job, President Bannon

Yemen Withdraws Permission for U.S. Antiterror Ground Missions

We need to deal with those who undermine our security in the strongest way possible. Someone arrest Trump.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:03:22pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Even if it’s true, it isn’t the right thing to do!” -Hatch

i REALLLY need a stronger word than fuck right now…..

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:03:40pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG
“Even if everything she said was true, it wasn’t the right thing to do… I’m appalled at what the Democrats are doing to him.” — Hatch

Won’t someone think about poor Jeff’s feefees as he undermines the rights of minorities?

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:04:08pm

“I think they are upset with Donald Trump” — Hatch

No, Hatch, we think Sessions is completely unqualified to Attorney General.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:04:46pm

Now the truth comes out…”everybody knows we have the votes.”

You say you want a revolution?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:05:14pm

“don’t care about etiquette and courtesy” — Hatch

STFU.
(And I speak for Garland, also)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:05:14pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:05:37pm

Please, Elizabeth-tell them to fuck themselves on the Senate floor…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:06:13pm

I don’t believe that Hatch knows the real definition of the word “respect”.

Here’s a clue, Orrin: It doesn’t mean Democrats are a doormat rubberstamp.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:06:36pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG
“Even if everything she said was true, it wasn’t the right thing to do… I’m appalled at what the Democrats are doing to him.” — Hatch

How close are we to having Orange Julius Caesar and his faithful party members start to claim that simply being a member of the Democratic Party is an act of sedition? They are rapidly travelling down that path now.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:06:43pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:06:45pm

So does Orin want drum circles or square dances on the Senate floor?

What the fuck is he going on about now? Talking about Trump and blah blah fucking blah.

SHUT UP YOU FUCKING OLD COOT.

And Orin, if you “literally elevate” the Senate, you’ll crack your empty head on the ceiling.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:07:46pm
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garzooma  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:09:11pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

[Elizabeth Warren was silenced when she tried to read the words of Martin Luther King’s widow, Coretta Scott King, into the Cong. Record.]

At least one black member of the NE Patriots, Tight End Martellus Bennet, will not be going to the White House to meet Trump. I wonder if the disrespecting of Coretta Scott King will cause other defections.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:09:47pm

re: #293 Scottish Dragon

This is fucking unreal…

huffingtonpost.com?

……

Unreal…but this may be good. I said a week ago I was hoping his administration would have major turnovers before 6 months are up.

I hope it is a sign of implosion that hurts everything he and the Republicans try to do as America watches Trump come unglued and once and for all prove he is vastly unfit to be President.

I think it is to be expected. One of the reasons I think he always surrounds himself with family is no one else can work with him.

And then the white coats carrying the straight jackets and meds can come in and cart him off to history.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:10:16pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:10:17pm

re: #112 Barefoot Grin

Lucinda makes my heart swoon / turns me into a loon / rhymes with June / on the battlefield she’s my platoon

;-) I am no rapper / just a yapper / peace

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:10:24pm

I donated to Chris Murphy some time ago, so I’m on his mailing list even though we’re not even in the same state. This email just came from him:

Lonnie -

This is ridiculous.

Moments ago, Senate Republicans ruled that any Democrat who criticizes Jeff Sessions’ record will be stripped of the right to speak as we discuss his potential confirmation to be Attorney General.

It all happened when Elizabeth Warren was reading a letter written by Coretta Scott King to the Judiciary Committee in 1986 during a debate on Jeff Sessions’ nomination to serve as a federal judge.

Here’s the text of Coretta Scott King’s letter that Mitch McConnell didn’t want anyone to hear.

I write to express my sincere opposition to the confirmation of Jefferson B. Sessions as a federal district court judge for the Southern District of Alabama. My professional and personal roots in Alabama are deep and lasting. Anyone who has used the power of his office as United States Attorney to intimidate and chill the free exercise of the ballot by citizens should not be elevated to our courts. Mr. Sessions has used the awesome powers of his office in a shabby attempt to intimidate and frighten elderly black voters. For this reprehensible conduct, he should not be rewarded with a federal judgeship.

I regret that a long-standing commitment prevents me from appearing in person to testify against this nominee. However, I have attached a copy of my statement opposing Mr. Sessions’ confirmation and I request that my statement as well as this be made a part of the hearing record.

I do sincerely urge you to oppose the confirmation of Mr. Sessions.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:10:40pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t believe that Hatch knows the real definition of the word “respect”.

Nor the word “literally.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:11:16pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:11:27pm

re: #309 jaunte

Hope this GOP shitbaggery results in a “Streisand Effect”, where the Coretta Scott King letter Elizabeth Warren wasn’t allowed to read goes super-viral. At the next protest, someone should project it onto the walls of the DoJ building.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:11:52pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:12:45pm

re: #319 Interesting Times

I hope a few million more Democrats vote next time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:13:23pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:13:46pm

re: #308 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

How close are we to having Orange Julius Caesar and his faithful party members start to claim that simply being a member of the Democratic Party is an act of sedition? They are rapidly travelling down that path now.

Well the Democrats and Media are already labeled The Opposition. So we are well on down the road.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:14:07pm

re: #312 garzooma

At least one black member of the NE Patriots, Tight End Martellus Bennet, will not be going to the White House to meet Trump. I wonder if the disrespecting of Coretta Scott King will cause other defections.

Two—Devin McCourty said he’s not going either.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:14:08pm

re: #308 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

How close are we to having Orange Julius Caesar and his faithful party members start to claim that simply being a member of the Democratic Party is an act of sedition? They are rapidly travelling down that path now.

This pale blue dot in a sea of red is not looking forward to that. Might have to move my Yukon trip forward.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:14:20pm

If I had a newspaper, I would print the King letter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:14:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:15:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:16:53pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:17:36pm

re: #319 Interesting Times

Hope this GOP shitbaggery results in a “Streisand Effect”, where the Coretta Scott King letter Elizabeth Warren wasn’t allowed to read goes super-viral. At the next protest, someone should project it onto the walls of the DoJ building.

Or on the back of the yam’s suit jacket

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:17:39pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

The WaPo article states that King’s letter never made it into the Congressional Record.

Someone needs to tweet that to Warren….

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:18:18pm

re: #316 Belafon

And recall, even during Sessions’s hearing during the Reagan Administration he was deemed too racist.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:18:37pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:19:24pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:20:05pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:20:51pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whoever mentioned the Streisand Effect was spot on. The letter is now going to be read and heard far and wide—and the fact that Sessions was too racist to be a judge will also.

And again I say—there had better not be one fucking Democratic vote for Sessions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:21:24pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:21:30pm

“Please refrain from pissing on the rule of law”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:21:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:21:39pm

re: #336 jaunte

The fact such a thing is even needed should tell you how fucked up this is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:21:59pm

BuzzFeed News first reported the existence of the letter earlier Tuesday, noting that it was never entered into the congressional record by then-Judiciary Committee Chair Strom Thurmond.

Hammer your Senators on Twitter, folks….

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:22:03pm

re: #336 jaunte

How fun would that be?

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:22:29pm

re: #327 Belafon

If I had a newspaper, I would print the King letter.

Somebody should start a gofundme to buy radio and tv spots to promote it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:23:07pm

re: #337 BeachDem

Whoever mentioned the Streisand Effect was spot on. The letter is now going to be read and heard far and wide—and the fact that Sessions was too racist to be a judge will also.

And again I say—there had better not be one fucking Democratic vote for Sessions.

Have you communicated with Joe Manchin in West ByGod Virginia? I don’t have a lot of faith in him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:24:16pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:25:41pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted,” Mitch McConnell says of Elizabeth Warren.

“I didn’t want to hit her. I told the bitch to shut up, but she just kept talking and I had no choice.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:26:22pm

re: #345 ObserverArt

Have you communicated with Joe Manchin in West ByGod Virginia? I don’t have a lot of faith in him.

He voted with the GOP earlier today to break the Dems’ filibuster.
cnn.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:27:09pm

re: #347 BeachDem

“I didn’t want to hit her. I told the bitch to shut up, but she just kept talking and I had no choice.”

“Look what you made me do!”

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TedStriker  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:27:17pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

He voted with the GOP earlier today to break the Dems’ filibuster.
cnn.com

Of course he did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:27:18pm

re: #347 BeachDem

“I didn’t want to hit her. I told the bitch to shut up, but she just kept talking and I had no choice.”

thus the wooden club…caveman-style.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:27:53pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

He voted with the GOP earlier today to break the Dems’ filibuster.
cnn.com

No!!!

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:28:03pm

YAY!

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bratwurst  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:28:39pm

80,000 people.

In 3 states.

Could have prevented this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:28:40pm
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petesh  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:28:52pm

I do believe Mitch erred, for once. He was probably going to be able to whip the votes to get Sessions confirmed, but he just amped up the scandal level a whole big notch; in fact, I wonder if that nice Dr Professor Ms Elizabeth didn’t plan it that way.

In which case (especially), Go Warren!

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:30:11pm

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

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As I mentioned earlier, Lindsey Graham said that somebody could murder Ted Cruz on the Senate floor and not be convicted, so…

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:31:20pm

In a way I am sort of glad Liz Warren was the Dem reprimanded and quieted. She probably has more followers going right now on the Dem side and this should steel her backers and maybe swing some more conservative women into the party. The GOP may have shut up the wrong person politically.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:31:29pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:32:19pm

re: #356 petesh

I do believe Mitch erred, for once. He was probably going to be able to whip the votes to get Sessions confirmed, but he just amped up the scandal level a whole big notch; in fact, I wonder if that nice Dr Professor Ms Elizabeth didn’t plan it that way.

In which case (especially), Go Warren!

Heh…same wavelength.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:32:21pm
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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:32:35pm

re: #345 ObserverArt

Have you communicated with Joe Manchin in West ByGod Virginia? I don’t have a lot of faith in him.

I’m aggravated enough trying to communicate with my pathetic senators-but Manchin did vote against DeVos, so maybe there’s a chance he’ll vote against Sessions.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:33:01pm

re: #357 BeachDem

As I mentioned earlier, Lindsey Graham said that somebody could murder Ted Cruz on the Senate floor and not be convicted, so…

Don’t give anybody any ideas, now…….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:33:53pm

re: #362 BeachDem

I’m aggravated enough trying to communicate with my pathetic senators-but Manchin did vote against DeVos, so maybe there’s a chance he’ll vote against Sessions.

No, he won’t. He absolutely will vote FOR Sessions.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:34:02pm

re: #356 petesh

I do believe Mitch erred, for once. He was probably going to be able to whip the votes to get Sessions confirmed, but he just amped up the scandal level a whole big notch; in fact, I wonder if that nice Dr Professor Ms Elizabeth didn’t plan it that way.

In which case (especially), Go Warren!

I doubt anyone actually knew Mitch would decide white supremacists were so dainty that they couldn’t be criticized. But now it’s on record.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:34:04pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

He voted with the GOP earlier today to break the Dems’ filibuster.
cnn.com

Gahhhhh

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:35:13pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

thus the wooden club…caveman-style.

But with comity and decorum.

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:35:24pm

re: #362 BeachDem

I’m aggravated enough trying to communicate with my pathetic senators-but Manchin did vote against DeVos, so maybe there’s a chance he’ll vote against Sessions.

I dunno…it is a Southern Gentleman, I looked into his heart kind of thing.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:35:32pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

At his shitty blog, Chuck C. Johnson has now doxed every protester who was arrested at the inauguration - addresses, phone numbers, photos, all their personal info.

That dumb fucker is going to get himself hurt. He seems to have zero idea of when too much is too much.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:35:41pm

re: #365 Belafon

I doubt anyone actually knew Mitch would decide white supremacists were so dainty that they couldn’t be criticized. But now it’s on record.

Remember, Senators and Representatives can edit or extend their remarks in the Record. Don’t be surprised if an entirely different line appears in the Record.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:35:42pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:36:25pm

re: #370 Anymouse

Remember, Senators and Representatives can edit or extend their remarks in the Record. Don’t be surprised if an entirely different line appears in the Record.

He can, and then that will end up all over the news and internet as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:36:29pm

Tennessee prison used ‘Trump’ security stamp on visitors

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Visitors entering a Tennessee prison one day last week had the word “Trump” stamped on their hands as they passed through security.

State corrections officials say they don’t know who chose to put the U.S. president’s last name on the stamp at Northwest Correctional Complex in Tiptonville or why, but it won’t happen again.

The president, one of the world’s most renowned real estate developers, is often fond of brandishing his name on his luxury properties.

It’s not clear what he would think about the Trump name being used at a prison.

State Department of Correction spokeswoman Neysa Taylor says that the words on the stamp change daily.

She said prison officials don’t want anyone to be offended and have forbidden proper names being put on stamps in the future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:37:01pm

re: #367 BeachDem

But with comity and decorum.

and RESPECT.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:37:35pm

re: #370 Anymouse

Remember, Senators and Representatives can edit or extend their remarks in the Record. Don’t be surprised if an entirely different line appears in the Record.

That sorta explains why King’s letter didn’t make it into the Congressional Record when it should have been.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:38:21pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

The president, one of the world’s most renowned real estate developers, is often fond of brandishing his name on his luxury properties.

GAG!

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:38:36pm

re: #369 Jebediah, RBG

That dumb fucker is going to get himself hurt. He seems to have zero idea of when too much is too much.

And what do you bet at least one of those doxxed is not a protester at all? Chuck C. Johnson doesn’t really strike me as meticulous or careful when he does “research.”

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:39:22pm

re: #372 Belafon

He can, and then that will end up all over the news and internet as well.

I wouldn’t hold my breath with the collaborationist press.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:39:59pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

These people make laugh (this was a reply to the tweet you put up):

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:40:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:41:08pm

Sen Whitehouse dragging Breitbart now.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:41:27pm

Yay—Whitehouse (Sheldon, not yammie) throwing shade on Breitbart.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:41:30pm

re: #378 Anymouse

Well, the story about Warren is on the WaPo website: washingtonpost.com.

Here’s the video: washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:41:32pm

re: #381 Charles Johnson

* Some restrictions apply

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ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:42:50pm

re: #377 Anymouse

And what do you bet at least one of those doxxed is not a protester at all? Chuck C. Johnson doesn’t really strike me as meticulous or careful when he does “research.”

I said basically the same when Charles first mentioned it here a week or so ago. I hoped he’d get his dumb ass sued by some people that can do him some serious damage.

I don’t know how the law would work, but is there any chance for a group lawsuit? Can many people on that list all join together in a suit. I know there are class action lawsuits against things like a manufacturer or service screwing a bunch of customers. Anything on the defamation, identity theft side?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:44:04pm

Whitehouse now talking about the entire Trump family bringing more conflict of interest than all previous presidents combined.

Calls them a swamp.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:44:26pm

Whitehouse is taking no prisoners.
This is great.

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retired cynic  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:45:09pm

re: #369 Jebediah, RBG

That dumb fucker is going to get himself hurt. He seems to have zero idea of when too much is too much.

That’s ok. It’s the innocent people he’s going to get hurt that bother me.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:46:35pm

re: #359 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Are the republicans going to shut down every one of them? I’d like to see what happens when they do it to Al Franken.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:47:01pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

and RESPECT.

Well, criticism IS offensive to Orin Hatch, so of course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:47:14pm

Bringing up Nixon’s DOJ debacle and comparing it to what’s happening now.
I am in love with Sen Whitehouse.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:49:25pm

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen Whitehouse dragging Breitbart now.

re: #383 BeachDem

Yay—Whitehouse (Sheldon, not yammie) throwing shade on Breitbart.

We obviously have the same triggers, Sleuth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:50:18pm

re: #393 BeachDem

We obviously have the same triggers, Sleuth.

He is kicking ass and taking names right now.
It’s a thing of beauty.

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Anymouse  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bringing up Nixon’s DOJ debacle and comparing it to what’s happening now.
I am in love with Sen Whitehouse.

Is he going to bring up the Monday Night Massacre under Mr. Trump?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:51:12pm

re: #395 Anymouse

Is he going to bring up the Monday Night Massacre under Mr. Trump?

He already did

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:52:12pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is kicking ass and taking names right now.
It’s a thing of beauty.

I do love him. He comes at you with “comity and a quiet voice” and he then inserts the sharpened knife into your intestines—but in a civilized manner. (and he’s one smart cookie.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:53:48pm

re: #397 BeachDem

I do love him. He comes at you with “comity and a quiet voice” and he then inserts the sharpened knife into your intestines—but in a civilized manner. (and he’s one smart cookie.)

I’ve already come to the realization that I’m not going to get to sleep anytime soon tonight.
But I don’t have to be anywhere tomorrow, so it’s all good.

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BeachDem  Feb 7, 2017 • 7:58:53pm

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve already come to the realization that I’m not going to get to sleep anytime soon tonight.
But I don’t have to be anywhere tomorrow, so it’s all good.

I haven’t been able to sleep for days (weeks, months—who’s counting)—but I’m good to go tonight. As I said, the last time a congressional session had me this infuriated was the Palm Sunday Terri Schiavo shitshow—which convinced me to get back involved in politics in a vocal way. That night, I had to run from room to room, from my computer to the TV—tonight all of my rage is confined to a single room.

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Ubiq  Feb 7, 2017 • 10:25:04pm

A couple recent updates:

trumpsterfireblog.wordpress.com

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 7, 2017 • 10:33:24pm

re: #377 Anymouse

I won’t bet against that!


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