Sarah Jarosz With Chris Thile on Prairie Home Companion: “Jacqueline”

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Since Chris Thile took over the hosting chair at Prairie Home Companion, the live music events have been taken to the next level. Tonight’s example: Sarah Jarosz, with a gorgeous arrangement of her moving tribute to Jacqueline Kennedy.

Sarah Jarosz (with Chris Thile, Rich Dworsky, Brittany Haas, and Paul Kowert) sings “Jacqueline” on our January 14, 2017 show

Website: sarahjarosz.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 8, 2017 • 7:56:43pm

Charles…is that a typo? While or Thile?

Edit…I see you caught it.

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Nyet  Feb 8, 2017 • 7:59:01pm

For some pretty “technical” historical reading, if that’s your thing:

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:01:45pm

Thank you for these. We need them. I have started listening again, too.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:12:28pm

Blocked this asshole, but nice to know these people are paying attention.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:15:19pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

You’re right. It’s no fun for them if they have no one to troll.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:15:38pm
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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:16:19pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is he trying to claim gab-ai is not full of racists and Nazis trying to get back on Twitter?

Or is he just a special snowflake upset because Twitter suspended Gab’s account there?

What does Gab need with a Twitter account if Gab is so inclusive and welcoming?

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Nyet  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:17:15pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

See, Charles, you generalize about groups of people, you are so … politically incorrect.

Wait wut.

“All of you: f*** off. Take your morally superior, elitist, virtue signaling bullshit and shove it. I call it like I see it, and I helped meme a President into office, cucks” ~Andy Torba

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Myron Falwell  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:20:25pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

“Hundreds of thousands of people.” 😹😂

That derp just said it. Gab Nazi Twitter is nothing more than vaporware that is of little value because it is all-Nazi, all the time.

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KGxvi  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:21:28pm

I just tried to watch Hate Thy Neighbor on Viceland. First episode had to do with Nazis/white supremacists. Made it about half way through the episode. Too depressing

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:21:49pm

re: #360 teleskiguy

I know a handful of folks from Massachusetts (all dudes, weirdly) and they’re great people, love hanging out with them. But … they have a tendency to be real assholes at the most inopportune times. Massholes. I totally get it.

From the previous thread.

When I was stationed in Massachusetts as a Navy recruiter in Pittsfield, I was warned the first day I was there with that term (but referring to Mass. drivers).

After about a week or so in Massachusetts driving around, I rated the claim “true.”

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:30:12pm
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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:30:49pm

re: #11 Anymouse

From the previous thread.

When I was stationed in Massachusetts as a Navy recruiter in Pittsfield, I was warned the first day I was there with that term (but referring to Mass. drivers).

After about a week or so in Massachusetts driving around, I rated the claim “true.”

A couple of things I learned driving a big rig for Schneider National was that no state has a monopoly on asshole drivers and that the better a person thinks they can drive, the worse they actually are.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:33:31pm

re: #7 Anymouse

Is he trying to claim gab-ai is not full of racists and Nazis trying to get back on Twitter?

Or is he just a special snowflake upset because Twitter suspended Gab’s account there?

What does Gab need with a Twitter account if Gab is so inclusive and welcoming?

1.) Torba’s most definitely not; he’s a flaming white supremacist that’s best buds with Rage Furby, DICK-enson, Cernovich, the whole lot of ‘em.

2.) 100% correct.

3.) Attention. No one that isn’t a flaming white supremacist goes to that steaming cesspool unless it’s to warn the rest of us. But Gab is not set up to succeed in the long term, or even the short term.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:34:59pm

re: #13 William Lewis

A couple of things I learned driving a big rig for Schneider National was that no state has a monopoly on asshole drivers and that the better a person thinks they can drive, the worse they actually are.

Not really related, but part of my Mass. experience:

The second day I lived in Pittsfield, I still had a Florida license plate on my car. The cops ticketed my car in my driveway for an out-of-state tag. Had to go to court to get it thrown out.

When I went to Spain after my tour in Pittsfield, I was told I had to return my license plate (when I got my Spanish plates). I did that, someone somewhere in Mass. lost the plate or paperwork or something, and Mass. issued a Felony arrest warrant.

I complained to my command in Spain, the command told me that happens all the time with people with cars registered in Massachusetts: They had a form letter to send to the commonwealth to address that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:35:18pm

re: #13 William Lewis

A couple of things I learned driving a big rig for Schneider National was that no state has a monopoly on asshole drivers and that the better a person thinks they can drive, the worse they actually are.

Each state has their own flavor of asshole, though.

NJ taught me a lot about defensive driving and reading the intention of the other cars regardless of what turn signals they did or did not use.

CA taught me how to fucking accelerate because who need merge lanes?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:36:23pm

re: #12 Anymouse

Ted Cruz.
Lying.
On an uncontested softball Fox interview.

It don’t get no more worse than that.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:37:34pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Each state has their own flavor of asshole, though.

NJ taught me a lot about defensive driving and reading the intention of the other cars regardless of what turn signals they did or did not use.

CA taught me how to fucking accelerate because who need merge lanes?

Nebraska taught me the flavour of nearly every bad driver in the nation, and to avoid Interstate 80 at all costs.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:38:25pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:39:07pm

re: #18 Anymouse

Nebraska taught me the flavour of nearly every bad driver in the nation, and to avoid Interstate 80 at all costs.

I have driven through NE once.

That was plenty and I have no need to go back. The most boring scenery, especially since I can go through South Dakota and have prettiness.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:42:54pm

re: #20 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have driven through NE once.

That was plenty and I have no need to go back. The most boring scenery, especially since I can go through South Dakota and have prettiness.

I-80 is pretty boring. Where I live sixty miles north is not. Sandhills, bluffs, the North Platte River, Chimney Rock, Scott’s Bluff, near the west end of the state the Rocky Mountains are visible … and no traffic lights for sixty miles in any direction.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:44:35pm

re: #17 Myron Falwell

Ted Cruz.
Lying.
On an uncontested softball Fox interview.

It don’t get no more worse than that.

However, this is the modern Republican mantra: The Democrats were slaveholders and the Republicans freed the slaves and nothing that happened in the intervening century and a half is worthy of note.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:45:37pm

re: #22 Hecuba’s daughter

However, this is the modern Republican mantra: The Democrats were slaveholders and the Republicans freed the slaves and nothing that happened in the intervening century and a half is worthy of note.

Well, some things are worthy of note to the GOP: All the things they want to abolish, like Social Security.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:47:51pm
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Nyet  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:50:36pm

re: #12 Anymouse

How about both.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:51:39pm

I have a whole packing list written out and all I want to do is go make another margarita.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:52:14pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a whole packing list written out and all I want to do is go make another margarita.

How bout both. /s

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Nyet  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:55:53pm

re: #25 Nyet

How about both.

re: #27 Anymouse

How bout both. /s

How about both. /meta

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:56:45pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Each state has their own flavor of asshole, though.

NJ taught me a lot about defensive driving and reading the intention of the other cars regardless of what turn signals they did or did not use.

CA taught me how to fucking accelerate because who need merge lanes?

A couple Texas cities:

There are two speeds on the freeways/tollways in Dallas - 80 MPH in all lanes during no-rush hour times, or stop-and-start movement from both directions when the inevitable accident happens. These rules do not change for winter-weather driving.

Houston: See Dallas, except more NASCAR - ie if someone brushes up against your vehicle on the highway without inflicting major damage, just keep moving.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:57:08pm

re: #28 Nyet

How about both. /meta

How bout meta. /both

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:59:17pm

re: #29 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

A couple Texas cities:

There are two speeds on the freeways/tollways in Dallas - 80 MPH in all lanes during no-rush hour times, or stop-and-start movement from both directions when the inevitable accident happens. These rules do not change for winter-weather driving.

Houston: See Dallas, except more NASCAR - ie if someone brushes up against your vehicle on the highway without inflicting major damage, just keep moving.

Wyoming’s 80 MPH speed limit is more of a suggestion on I-80. Going to Cheyenne I take the back roads, because I-80 is more like a bumper car track.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 8, 2017 • 8:59:25pm

re: #24 Anymouse

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Story has been updated- he has been caught already in Washington DC:

fox13news.com

“He was arrested today in Northwest D.C. after an officer spotted him.”

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Myron Falwell  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:00:25pm

re: #22 Hecuba’s daughter

However, this is the modern Republican mantra: The Democrats were slaveholders and the Republicans freed the slaves and nothing that happened in the intervening century and a half is worthy of note.

It’s all brainwashing the entire GOP rank-and-file.

You have a liar (Cruz) and a propaganda outlet disguised as a news operation (Fox)… that’s all it takes to keep the lie alive.

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Nyet  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:00:51pm

Boteach in his element:

RABBI SHMULEY BOTEACH: No one would decry and deplore white supremacists more than me, as a Jew, having said that… Breitbart has been very strongly pro-Israel. They have a Jerusalem bureau. They are against the BDS boycott against Israel.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:01:31pm

re: #29 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

A couple Texas cities:

There are two speeds on the freeways/tollways in Dallas - 80 MPH in all lanes during no-rush hour times, or stop-and-start movement from both directions when the inevitable accident happens. These rules do not change for winter-weather driving.

Houston: See Dallas, except more NASCAR - ie if someone brushes up against your vehicle on the highway without inflicting major damage, just keep moving.

I had to drive once in Dallas for a wedding, with the added benefit of not having gotten the toll pass thing for the rental car.

That is not an experience I care to repeat any time soon.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:02:46pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:04:38pm
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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:07:41pm
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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:12:48pm

NSA contractor indicted for massive theft of data (not Edward Snowden):
reuters.com

Same company though. Maybe we ought to extremely vet Booz Allen Hamilton?

The indictment alleges that Harold Thomas Martin, 52, spent up to 20 years stealing highly sensitive government material from the U.S. intelligence community related to national defense, collecting a trove of secrets he hoarded at his home in Glen Burnie, Maryland.

The government has not said what, if anything, Martin did with the stolen data.

Martin faces 20 criminal counts, each punishable by up to 10 years in prison, the Justice Department said.

“For as long as two decades, Harold Martin flagrantly abused the trust placed in him by the government,” said U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein.

Martin’s attorney could not immediately be reached for comment.

Martin worked for Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp when he was taken into custody last August.

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:14:44pm

re: #39 Anymouse

NSA contractor indicted for massive theft of data (not Edward Snowden):
reuters.com

Same company though. Maybe we ought to extremely vet Booz Allen Hamilton?

Isn’t that the guy that just hoarded it all in his garage?

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:16:00pm

re: #40 retired cynic

Isn’t that the guy that just hoarded it all in his garage?

Apparently it’s that guy.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:17:31pm

UK Parliament votes to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty by an overwhelming margin.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:22:57pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:27:05pm

re: #42 Anymouse

UK Parliament votes to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty by an overwhelming margin.

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So this is what it looks like to watch a nation self-destruct.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:27:10pm

I would go pack but I am now held down by a cat in my lap.

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:27:36pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

So this is what it looks like to watch a nation self-destruct.

And cheer about it.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:28:38pm

Yeah, this doesn’t really help Bernie or Stein supporters look good. With video at the link.
eclectablog.com

Early last month, the Michigan Democratic Party State Central Committee (DSCC) met to choose its delegates to the Democratic National Committee [full disclosure: I am a DSCC member]. The afternoon of the meeting, the Chair of the Young Democrats of Michigan Sam Pernick spoke to a group of Senator Sanders and Jill Stein supporters in the hallway outside of the meeting room, telling them that “backroom deals” were being made behind closed doors and “that wasn’t right.” He then led his followers into the meeting chanting “Whose party? OUR Party!”, disrupting the meeting that was already underway. What Pernick didn’t realize was that he was leading the group, not into the DSCC meeting but, rather, into a closed meeting of the MDP Labor Caucus who had the room reserved just prior to the DSCC meeting itself. UAW leader Mike Stone grabbed Pernick by the jacket and pushed him back out the door.

Pernick then proceeded to file charges against Stone which resulted in Stone receiving a ticket. Pernick took to social media to describe the “assault and battery” as a violent attack, blowing it up in an apparent attempt to obscure the fact that he stupidly led dozens of his followers into the wrong meeting.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:29:13pm

re: #46 retired cynic

And cheer about it.

US to UK: Hold my beer… .

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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:41:23pm

re: #48 Anymouse

US to UK: Hold my beer… .

Germany: This is gonna be messy.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:44:20pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Germany: This is gonna be messy.

Canada: We’ll build a wall and make the USA pay for it. But we’ll be nice about it.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 9:59:14pm

Bibi has a new friend (ugh):

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:04:04pm

Anti-vaxxers making Washington state great again.

* In 2012, a child of an anti-vaxxer gave me the mumps. Turns out even if you had the mumps, you can get them again. I was deathly ill for three weeks, and my bits swelled to the size of oranges. VA told me to stay the heck away from the hospital and sent someone round my house to check on me. Miserable doesn’t even begin to describe how I felt.

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Targetpractice  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:06:35pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Anti-vaxxers making Washington state great again.

* In 2012, a child of an anti-vaxxer gave me the mumps. Turns out even if you had the mumps, you can get them again. I was deathly ill for three weeks, and my bits swelled to the size of oranges. VA told me to stay the heck away from the hospital and sent someone round my house to check on me. Miserable doesn’t even begin to describe how I felt.

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“It’s my choice to leave my child unvaccinated! It doesn’t hurt anyone else!”

Times I really do think the idea of requiring people to be certified before they can have kids has a certain appeal.

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:09:35pm

re: #52 Anymouse

It is the one childhood disease I didn’t get, and when I started teaching, I loaded up on all the vaccines I could get at that time. No mumps, thank God! Caught every cold / flu / cough / sniffle for two years before I finally built up some immunity. My husband wasn’t so lucky when he was a child, and the mumps ended parts of his life before they got started. Anti-vaxxers … I don’t know what is bad enough for them.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:11:54pm

re: #54 retired cynic

Unfortunately teachers get all of the colds because they are in contact with the kids. My late dad caught almost every type of cold germ there was.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:12:31pm

re: #54 retired cynic

It is the one childhood disease I didn’t get, and when I started teaching, I loaded up on all the vaccines I could get at that time. No mumps, thank God! Caught every cold / flu / cough / sniffle for two years before I finally built up some immunity. My husband wasn’t so lucky when he was a child, and the mumps ended parts of his life before they got started. Anti-vaxxers … I don’t know what is bad enough for them.

Well, if I was mean I would wish the 105 degree fever I had for two days. Also having to sit on bits the size of oranges.

As for Twitter claiming (yet again, as Mr. Johnson informed us yesterday) they were going to pitch the Nazis and white supremacists, I notice they still haven’t pitched this guy yet.

Twitter lied, Klansmen survived.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:15:09pm

Canada better hurry up building that wall: Sarah Palin touted as Ambassador to Canada.

theguardian.com

But after a White House spokesman refused to rule out the possibility that Sarah Palin could be the next US ambassador to Ottawa, few in Canada seemed to be embracing the prospect of the former Alaska governor taking up the role.
Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump: translating her reference-packed speech
Read more

“Sarah Palin as ambassador?” New Democrat MP Charlie Angus asked on Twitter. “Well that would show how little Steve Bannon and his pal @realDonaldTrump think of Canada.”

Others dismissed the idea as simply fake news or alternative facts, while some wondered if this was an early April Fools joke from the White House.

“Appointing Sarah Palin as the US ambassador to Canada is, like, ultimate trolling,” noted one. “If he makes Sarah Palin the US Ambassador to Canada. I say we keep our oil and hockey players. BTW … does she speak Canadian?” Asked another.

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:16:24pm

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

Unfortunately teachers get all of the colds because they are in contact with the kids. My late dad caught almost every type of cold germ there was.

The only place that approaches elementary school is a nursing home. Sigh. And the poor aides with kids in school, wow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:31:38pm
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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:34:35pm

My wife is trying to get me used to our new food group when we move to Canada … another round of poutine now.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:36:47pm
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:44:24pm

re: #61 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

It seems as though they did cover almost everything. Gee the uncouth one lies again. Once a con-man always a con-man.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:49:19pm

Tom Perez pledges to rebuild Democratic Party in red rural areas.

nbcnews.com

Essentially, he sees the problem the way I do: Unless you get rid of the Electoral College, winning territory is just as important as winning votes. Like it or not, under the Constitution square miles do get votes.

TOPEKA, Kansas - With an unbroken 50-year streak of voting for Republican presidential candidates, Kansas is not a typical stop on Democrats’ national tour.

“Party chairs don’t come to Kansas,” said Kathleen Sebelius, the state’s last Democratic governor, who went on to serve in President Obama’s Cabinet as Secretary of Health and Human services.

But on an unseasonably warm Tuesday, former Labor Secretary Tom Perez came here to hunt for votes in his bid to be the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and to pledge that the party would no longer ignore rural areas.

In his first mission, Perez succeeded.

He picked up endorsements from Kansas Democratic Party Chairman Lee Kinch and Vice Chairwoman Kathryn Focke, both of whom are among the 447 members of the DNC who will elect a new leader later this month. And after a meeting in rural Wisconsin a day earlier, Perez earned the backing of state Sen. Janet Bewley, a DNC committeewoman from the Badger state.

(More at NBC)

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:53:13pm

It is now raining in Philly. I just checked the Nat’l Weather Service and the snow is supposed to start around 5 am. When the local weather map looks like this one it is not good news.
weather.gov

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:57:01pm

re: #64 PhillyPretzel

It is now raining in Philly. I just checked the Nat’l Weather Service and the snow is supposed to start around 5 am. When the local weather map looks like this one it is not good news.
weather.gov

Welcome to my world. Of course, we don’t have to worry about ten million people trying to get to work in that mess.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:59:03pm

Unseasonably warm here for the next couple days, along with snow:

forecast.weather.gov

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 8, 2017 • 10:59:28pm

re: #65 Anymouse

True. And one of the reasons why I am up so late is that I am off for the day.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:02:38pm

re: #67 PhillyPretzel

True. And one of the reasons why I am up so late is that I am off for the day.

Congrats. I hope that’s a paid day. Penna. is primarily a blue state, do they pay you for being off work due to weather?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:04:27pm

re: #68 Anymouse

Right now it is listed as a vacation day. If the State declares an emergency it may be paid by the employer. I am not holding my breath.

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:04:38pm

Comment on Wonkette on how to appeal to voters in red areas:

Yup, quit appealing to reason with abstract arguments aimed at the intellect and start going straight after their lizard brains like the republicans do.

The GOP wants grandma to DIE

the GOP wants your children to STARVE

The GOP wants to TAKE YOUR RETIREMENT AWAY

The GOP thinks Goldman Sachs and Exxon are more important than the corner drug store or the local diner

the GOP wants to DOUBLE YOUR GROCERY BILL with tariffs on the food your family eats

Go fo their throats with lurid imagery that resonates with people whether they’ve focused on the issue or not

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Kragar  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:06:28pm
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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:11:09pm

Boris Johnson renounces his American citizenship (he was a dual citizen):

thehill.com

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Anymouse  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:13:14pm

White House LGBT rights page now gone.

whitehouse.gov (link to what was that page, now with a placeholder).

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teleskiguy  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:36:43pm

re: #66 Anymouse

I was worried about that damn ice dam that got to be six to eight inches thick on my north dormers. Today? It’s almost gone, with no assistance from the homeowners. Was in the 50s today, more of the same until Saturday. So I’m told.

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Alyosha  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:36:50pm

If you like a bit of Scottish profanity, you’ll love this.

The Original Trump Haters | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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Alyosha  Feb 8, 2017 • 11:39:36pm

re: #75 Alyosha

If you like a bit of Scottish profanity, you’ll love this.

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Oh, btw, there’s a bit of advice towards the end, delivered by the landowner at the centre of the golf course row.

Paraphrasing: ‘Just annoy him, he’ll crack up and end in a padded cell.’
I’d say he got a bead on Trump early on.

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Alyosha  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:47:46am

Fuck it.
As long as I’m holding the conch.

Have some math core :)
This is my favourite song atm.
It’s worth it for the first twenty seconds alone. It reminds me of the blind swirling chaos at the centre of our lives. It runs from edgy mania, through a thrum of crunchy anticipation and up to a pinnacle of thrilling abandon.
Then it all comes down.
So fucking good.
If bipolarity was a song, this would be it.

Nine - Rolo Tomassi

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:02:22am

re: #77 Alyosha

mmmmm, conchhhh,,,

now I want to go dive for some conch, get it out of it’s shell, clean it and make some conch ceviche.

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weave  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:10:37am

re: #70 Anymouse

Comment on Wonkette on how to appeal to voters in red areas:

The GOP….

What I’ve said to make lot of evangelicals stop and shit themselves…

“What if Donald Trump is the Anti-Christ spoken of in the Bible?”

At first they laugh, since they accused Obama of being that.

But them I’m like “Hear me out for a moment. The Beast is supposed to be devious, the most cunning of anyone to every walk on the Earth, and fool all Christians into following him. He will profess his support for Israel, and then will turn on her and will join forces with Magog (Russia) and move to destroy her. And who do you think is talking about having better relations with Russia? Do you really think that is a reach? Do you really not see that he could be lying about his so-called new-found faith in Christ?”

And then I’m like “What if he secretly hates Jews so much that he couldn’t even recognize their suffering in the Holocaust. Is that just a coincidence?”

Underhanded? Maybe. But if you really believe in the Book of Revelation, then it’s honestly not that much of a reach.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:11:07am

These fucking people.

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Alyosha  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:32:06am

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

Can’t even seem to get the stigma of his open admission of sexual assault to stick. Not his tax avoidance. Not his unnatural sexual ideation of his own daughter. Not his casual racism.

Someone so obviously unwell is so obviously unwell because of a lack of treatment. No one wants to help him. Not his enablers and certainly not the avoidant holier-than-thou host who refuses to see facts: Donald Trump is not right psychologically.

An unwell person needs treatment. Period.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:41:04am

re: #81 Alyosha

Can’t even seem to get the stigma of his open admission of sexual assault to stick. Not his tax avoidance. Not his unnatural sexual ideation of his own daughter. Not his casual racism.

Someone so obviously unwell is so obviously unwell because of a lack of treatment. No one wants to help him. Not his enablers and certainly not the avoidant holier-than-thou host who refuses to see facts: Donald Trump is not right psychologically.

An unwell person needs treatment. Period.

Narcissists never want help. Their entire mental foundation rests on the belief that they’re better than everyone else. So seeking help, in that view of things, would be the one thing most harmful to them and their place in the world.

Honestly narcissists may be sick, but fuck them anyways because they’re terrible people.

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Alyosha  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:44:19am

re: #81 Alyosha

Maybe a better way of putting it isn’t so much that Trump needs treatment (he most certainly does) but, in spite of the ogre he has become, he still deserves treatment.

What those who shy away from psychological labels seem to ignore is that even very bad people - and arguably, especially very bad people, if they’re also rich and powerful - should be able to feel able to accept help.

That’s not really an option with a malignant narcissist that also happens to be the most powerful person on Earth; but it deserves to be said, and which, like Propane Jane has remarked cannot be resolved without the problem being identified.

Okay. That’s it.

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Alyosha  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:46:59am

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, it’s why I still feel comfortable dragging his ass.
He needs help. Ain’t gonna get it. Drive for the breakdown sooner.
The calculus is really that bleak. The sooner he’s a gibbering wreck, the better for the rest of us.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:09:11am

I’m running the pellet stove at the lowest setting (1 feed 0 blower) and the temp in the main part of the house is comfortable. It’s 37° F outside right now.

It’s perfect in here. :)

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:12:28am

re: #85 teleskiguy

I’ve ran my pellet stove at 4 feed MAX blower a couple of times this winter. Both those times it was excessively cold outside. We’re talkin’ -15° F and better. When I’m running the stove that high, 40 lbs. of wood pellets are gone in no time. I’m going through wood pellets *slow like* right now.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:22:54am

My favorite part of the house I live in, the pellet stove. That thing is pretty badass. Very efficient. No smoke (when in proper operation).

A few years ago the power company helped build a new power plant right down the road. It’s a biofuel power plant. And it contributed significantly to a Colorado Law passed recently that says all municipal power companies must get 10% of their power from renewable sources.

Holy Cross Energy is protected from current laws and regulation bigly, biomass power!

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:26:11am

C’mon! I know some of you find it funny that my electric utility company is called Holy Cross Energy. That’s funny! Right?!?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:31:18am

re: #53 Targetpractice

“It’s my choice to leave my child unvaccinated! It doesn’t hurt anyone else!”

Times I really do think the idea of requiring people to be certified before they can have kids has a certain appeal.

This was one of those cases where anti-big pharma, anti-Western medicine moonbats overlapped with anti-big government anti-science wingnuts to create a critical mass of derp that is having disastrous and even fatal consequences.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:35:26am

re: #88 teleskiguy

Here’s the $34 million facility that burns wood fuel (mostly from beetle-killed forests up and down the Rocky Mountains) for power, right down the road from me. Took years to get that fucker online! It was shut down almost all last year ‘cause one of the chutes caught fire.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 3:57:27am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:08:33am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:10:38am
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:12:18am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:14:06am

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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I think we know where Trump is getting his news from:
Washington Free-Beacon (RWNJ site): Dem Who Lied About Vietnam Service Calls for Extreme Vetting of Gorsuch

Mmmmmm…free bacon…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:20:00am

Gorsuch is going to face questioning about Trump’s attacks on the judiciary during his confirmation hearing, it’s hard to see how he can possibly gloss over his confirmed remarks. How Trump reacts to that is going to be a real test, he’s really fucked things up with this recklessly implemented travel ban and his insanely vitriolic response to early court losses.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:25:51am

AYFKM?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:28:41am

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:30:45am

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:32:13am

I’m legitimately stunned at this.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:34:39am

You know how we were making fun of Trump yesterday for asking Mike Flynn at 3 am whether the United States should have a weak or strong dollar?

You know what Trump’s major at the Wharton School was?

Economics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:35:27am

MS wants to execute convicts by firing squad because they can’t get the drugs they need for lethal injections. They will probably vote to bring back hanging too.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:36:33am

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

I am very sad by what they did but not surprised.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:38:39am

I’m flying out to NY on Sunday, will it all be shoveled by then?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:41:11am

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

The airport should be. As to the rest of the city I have no idea. Maybe lawhawk when he comes in will be able to tell you.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:45:34am

Greets and saluts from the resistance. Trump’s already been busy this morning.

And oh, every media report indicates that Gorsuch confirms that he indeed said what was reported yesterday.

re: #12 Anymouse

People like Cruz know what the history is, and purposefully lie and misrepresent because the fact is that the GOP is the party that enables and supports bigotry and racism. They elected a president on the back of white supremacism and misogyny, not despite of it. We see it with all the statements Trump made during the campaign that resulted in more support among GOPers, not less. It is who the current GOP is.

The GOP has to go back 100+ years to find a party that supported minorities, sought to end slavery. The modern GOP was born at the beginning of the civil rights movement, when the GOP opposed those measures and the Democrats purged them from their party.

That’s why the GOP continues to try and expropriate MLK’s legacy. They have no one else - no one living in the past 50 years who can claim the mantle of being a civil rights supporter who wants to protect the rights of minorities. Because the modern GOP is intent on rolling back rights of minorities.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:46:26am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:46:51am

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, the airports will be fine by then. Temps will be rebounding to the 40s by the end of the week. We will have 24 hours of pretty white snow, followed by a couple days of mush.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:47:52am

re: #106 lawhawk

…Because the modern GOP is intent on rolling back rights of minorities.

They insist that they are doing it in the name of “personal freedom”, as in the personal freedom of people to discriminate against minorities.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:48:46am

re: #108 lawhawk

Yeah, the airports will be fine by then. Temps will be rebounding to the 40s by the end of the week. We will have 24 hours of pretty white snow, followed by a couple days of mush.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:50:48am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:52:43am

re: #111 lawhawk

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:53:11am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:54:14am

re: #113 PhillyPretzel

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:55:09am

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:56:29am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 4:58:52am

re: #116 lawhawk

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:00:11am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:00:47am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:02:13am

re: #118 Myron Falwell

Ivanka was treated “badly” by Nordstrom’s. Hmm Maybe I should go to King of Prussia and buy something there.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:06:19am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:07:27am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:08:18am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

Philly is supposed to get 3-7 inches today. :(

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:10:04am

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

A number of Trump items are knockoffs of other brands.

Most, if not all, Trump brand clothes are made overseas, including this number I found in Macy’s:

So, like so much of Trump businesses, Trump tries to project wealth and excess, but it’s a thin veneer over so much BS.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:11:33am

re: #118 Myron Falwell

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:12:24am

“America Firsters” y’all

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:14:19am

It’s all about the grift. All of it.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:15:03am

re: #124 lawhawk

So, like so much of Trump businesses, Trump tries to project wealth and excess, but it’s a thin veneer over so much BS.

That veneer is so gaudy and tacky, it makes Liberace look understated by comparison.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:18:03am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. Like the Bumfuck County good ol’ boys and the old angry white male WASPs who primarily watch Fox would have any business buying Ivanka’s chintzy garbage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:18:13am

re: #128 Myron Falwell

That veneer is so gaudy and tacky, it makes Liberace look understated by comparison.

And Liberace at least had some talent and virtuosity behind the glitter…

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jeffreyw  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:19:54am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:19:58am

re: #129 Myron Falwell

Heh. Like the Bumfuck County good ol’ boys and the old angry white male WASPs who primarily watch Fox would have any business buying Ivanka’s chintzy garbage.

She should sell her cheap 3rd world sweatshop shit at Walmart.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:20:35am

re: #12 Anymouse

The KKK and White Supremacists were very clear as to which candidate they supported in 2016 and it wasn’t the Democratic one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:21:29am

Here is Fox having LyingKellyanne on their network giving free ad time to Ivanka merchandise.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:23:09am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Now I need some pizza!! Stat!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:25:06am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:26:26am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

Here is Fox having LyingKellyanne on their network giving free ad time to Ivanka merchandise.

Ivanka was on one of Rupert Murdoch’s boards until recently, no?

Grifters R Us…

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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:26:26am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:28:34am

re: #137 Myron Falwell

Ivanka was on one of Rupert Murdoch’s boards, no?

Grifters R Us…

Trustee for Murdoch’s daughters’ trust. Allegedly stepped down in December.
nytimes.com

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:28:51am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

I do not want Pete Souza to lose his twitter instagram account, but he should re-post that image as often as possible.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:37:43am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

Not surprised that Souza is trolling Trump. He must be as shocked as I am that someone as uncouth and crass as Trump could follow someone as dignified and classy as President Obama. It’s truly horrifying.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:40:44am

::: kicking myself :::
I just missed getting a picture of a salt/plow truck going down my street. Darn.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:42:00am
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freetoken  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:52:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:58:58am
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steve_davis  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:59:43am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

MS wants to execute convicts by firing squad because they can’t get the drugs they need for lethal injections. They will probably vote to bring back hanging too.

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I would actually be fine with this. If I were gonna be executed, I’d much rather have 7 people shoot me than spend a couple of hours getting injected with various drugs, considering how deeply neurotic I am about drugs of any sort.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 5:59:50am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

We’re trying, Donald. But we can’t remove you from office until Democrats are in charge.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:01:15am

re: #146 steve_davis

I would actually be fine with this. If I were gonna be executed, I’d much rather have 7 people shoot me than spend a couple of hours getting injected with various drugs, considering how deeply neurotic I am about drugs of any sort.

I say bring back the guillotine.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:01:38am

DeVos tries to be clever. Fails miserably.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:02:29am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

As long as I do not have to see it come down on my neck. The Scots had their’s face up and not down.

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freetoken  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:06:21am

It doesn’t make the headlines anymore, because, well, among other reasons being the Vulgarian is generating headlines hourly that crowds out all others, but for those interested, global sea ice extent has been at a record low for several months now:

Image: nsidc_global_area_byyear_b.png

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:06:56am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

I’m sure a few are thinking of that, or hanging:

After all, the reason that this is coming up is because the pharmaceuticals are not producing the meds used in lethal injections. Or making them available to the states for this purpose.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:07:09am

Morning!

I commented the other day I sent a contact form message to Ohio Senator Rob Portman when I read he received a $51,000 donation from Betsy DeVos and he voted for her to be Education Secretary.

Got the usual Robby canned response and I wanted to share the BS. Here is the main part of his response.

I supported Betsy DeVos for Secretary of Education because during the confirmation process she committed to strongly support public education and because of her support for local control, instead of having the federal government dictate education policy at the state and local level. I look forward to working with her to improve our K-12 public education system, make college more affordable, stand up for children with disabilities, and close the skills gap by promoting Career and Technical Education (CTE) to give young people more opportunities to succeed.

In addition, I do give some deference to the President choosing his cabinet, as I did when supporting President Obama’s nominees.

In the 21st century economy, a high quality education is critical to the social and economic well-being of our nation. I believe that the most important role in educating tomorrow’s workforce is played by parents, teachers, mentors, and community leaders at the state and local level. At a time when young people are leaving our state, we must work collaboratively in our communities to give students the tools necessary to compete in high demand fields in Ohio.

I wasn’t impressed. It is hard to be impressed by Rob Portman.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:07:15am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:08:25am

re: #154 Unshaken Defiance

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:09:13am

Well Lizards, I am off. Enjoy the week as best as possible, try not to break anything, the usual.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:12:50am

So, this is how it looked in my neck of the woods earlier this morning (that’s the train station I use):

northjersey.com

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:13:20am

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We wont. We can’t say the same about the Bannon/Trump cabal of cronies. We’ll do what we must.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:13:30am

Hello from snowy Long Island. I’m looking out my office window, and we’re pretty much in whiteout conditions right now - heavy snow, 20 MPH winds with much higher gusts.

And this ain’t fun, fluffy snow. This is heavy, wet snow that’s going to play havoc with power around here. Even my snow-loving dog took a trip around the yard this morning, said ‘nope’ and came back to the door to come inside.

My wife is working from home today, and luckily we don’t have to go anywhere. Hope everyone in this storm stays safe.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:14:06am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:14:15am

re: #159 makeitstop

Hello from snowy Long Island. I’m looking out my office window, and we’re pretty much in whiteout conditions right now - heavy snow, 20 MPH winds with much higher gusts.

And this ain’t fun, fluffy snow. This is heavy, wet snow that’s going to play havoc with power around here. Even my snow-loving dog took a trip around the yard this morning, said ‘nope’ and came back to the door to come inside.

My wife is working from home today, and luckily we don’t have to go anywhere. Hope everyone in this storm stays safe.

Just remember, snowflakes are so fragile, they need their own safe spaces. You’ll be fine. //

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:15:25am
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Henny Penny  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:16:52am

re: #161 Belafon

Their, they’re, there pretty snowflakes…

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:16:54am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:17:21am

re: #162 darthstar

Profit. That’s ultimately all he cares about. What will bring him the most profit personally.

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Teukka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:18:54am

Happening right now in my neck of the woods:
Two trains evacuated in Swedish cities after bomb threats

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:19:29am

re: #152 lawhawk

Shit, let’s bring back the guillotines and go full Jacobin.

President Bannon is Maximilien de Robespierre reincarnate, so why not?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:21:31am

re: #167 Myron Falwell

Shit, let’s bring back the guillotines and go full Jacobin.

President Bannon is Maximilien de Robespierre reincarnate, so why not?

Bannon has compared himself to Thomas Cromwell, who was beheaded (although by axe, not guillotine)

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:22:32am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:22:48am

re: #167 Myron Falwell

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Hello. Tower of London. How can I help you? /half

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:22:49am

re: #149 lawhawk

DeVos tries to be clever. Fails miserably.

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I recommended @DollarGeneral. I doubt she’s ever visited such a place in her life.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:25:46am

Agencies at high risk of extinction
EPA, OSHA and of course
Consumer Finance Protection Bureau

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I cannot.  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:25:52am

re: #152 lawhawk

I have my doubts about the guillotine coming back, because so many wingnuts equate the French Revolution with SOSHULIZM! Although, since there was a conspiracy theory about Obama stockpiling 10,000 guillotines, and IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION…that means they must be wanting to bring it back.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:27:41am

re: #169 darthstar

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:28:39am

One of my nephews has been replacing Bannon with Skeletor in photos, and he appears to have gone viral with it. Smart kid.

#replacebannonwithskeletor

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:30:37am

re: #160 Unshaken Defiance

There has been an effort inside Alabama GOP circles during the past 24 hours to persuade Bentley to choose another candidate due to the potential conflict-of-interest over Strange, who was reportedly conducting an investigation into the governor over a sex scandal.

Nothing to see here, please move along.

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:31:18am

re: #175 makeitstop

One of my nephews has been replacing Bannon with Skeletor in photos, and he appears to have gone viral with it. Smart kid.

#replacebannonwithskeletor

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When trump makes that “thumbs up” gesture you can see how bent and disfigured his thumbs are.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:31:31am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Bannon has compared himself to Thomas Cromwell, who was beheaded (although by axe, not guillotine)

In Robespierre’s case, he actually did bring down a republic (France’s first).

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:31:31am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:32:27am

HUZZAH!!!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:32:43am

re: #175 makeitstop

One of my nephews has been replacing Bannon with Skeletor in photos, and he appears to have gone viral with it. Smart kid.

#replacebannonwithskeletor

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Trump is such a freak. He never has an actual light moment in that pea brain of his so he forces the most unnatural smiles ever by a human. And of course the dumb cliche thumbs up.

He is human isn’t he???

So sick of him already. The voice, the look…the stupidity. Arrrrrgh!!!

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:32:50am

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

When trump makes that “thumbs up” gesture you can see how bent and disfigured his thumbs are.

Not to mention tiny.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:35:16am

re: #165 lawhawk

Profit. That’s ultimately all he cares about. What will bring him the most profit personally.

He needs to pay off those Russian monsters somehow

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:39:45am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:42:10am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Let’s see, to my knowledge they were sent in to kill an insurgent and that didn’t happen. He’s currently calling a Yam a Yam from the nether regions of Yemen. Wasn’t the other thing to recover intel. As in hard drive intel?

So to recap,
Dead and wounded SOG personnel.
Bunch of dead kids.
Live bad guys.
Other Intel? Did they get that?

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:42:57am

re: #184 darthstar

Oh, that can’t be good. 12 month moving average and you see it plummet in 2016/2017? That’s not just a minor outflow, but a flood moving towards the doors.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:43:37am

re: #178 Myron Falwell

In Robespierre’s case, he actually did bring down a republic (France’s first).

Bannon has said openly that his goal is to bring down the republic by whatever means available. In other countries this would be actual treason but in the US it would only be treason if he was working with a foreign power that is at war with us.

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I cannot.  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:44:47am

re: #185 Dave In Austin

Other intel? They posted some ten year old stuff that you can get on YouTube…if they got useful stuff, they’re not telling.

Also, we got some multi-million dollar equipment shot all to fuck.

WINNING!

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:45:26am

re: #184 darthstar

I see some news, get that ill feeling. Sleep on it, feel better. then I see some news…

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:46:45am

re: #185 Dave In Austin

Other Intel? Did they get that?

The Pentagon released video taken in the raid, but it turns out to have been old footage that was already on YouTube.

So that’s a negatory.

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I cannot.  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:46:49am

re: #184 darthstar

*checks my bottlecap collection*

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:50:21am

re: #186 lawhawk

Oh, that can’t be good. 12 month moving average and you see it plummet in 2016/2017? That’s not just a minor outflow, but a flood moving towards the doors.

I wager that China has been doing a lot of selling, as it tries to shore up its own economy. The People’s Bank has also gotten very worried about Chinese using bitcoin to move money offshore, and they’ve been “investigating” the major bitcoin exchanges in China. The exchanges have tightened up their procedures (no margin trading and no fee waivers for activity), and now two have announced users can no longer withdraw bitcoins from their accounts. That means no one can send those bitcoins abroad.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:56:34am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:57:12am

Friend posted on FB; I don’t have attribution (sorry)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 6:59:00am

re: #164 lawhawk

Yup speaker Ryan is an Ayn Rand heartless conservative. Bannon is a white supremacist conservative. See the difference?

Ryan just wants to dismantle the New Deal, Bannon wants to demolish the entire government.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:04:04am

Making good on the promise to leave the US when Trump won? /

usnews.com

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:07:26am

re: #186 lawhawk

Oh, that can’t be good. 12 month moving average and you see it plummet in 2016/2017? That’s not just a minor outflow, but a flood moving towards the doors.

It’s okay. Trump can always order the Treasury to print more money and that’ll boost the economy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:08:25am

re: #44 Targetpractice

So this is what it looks like to watch a nation self-destruct.

Looks like the EU is going to hand about a 50bn Euro bill to exit, with the threat of the UK being cut off from the EU market as leverage.

economist.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:12:57am

re: #198 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like the EU is going to hand about a 50bn Euro bill to exit, with the threat of the UK being cut off from the EU market as leverage.

economist.com

But think of all the money they are going to save!!!

/

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:13:32am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But think of all the money they are going to save!!!

/

And the jerbzz created!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:15:54am

re: #200 wheat-dogg

And the jerbzz created!

…especially when they run all the foreigners out! Restaurant and hotel service jobs galore!!!

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:17:53am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:18:11am

World’s Most Valuable Brands —slow loading PDF

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:19:13am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…especially when they run all the foreigners out! Restaurant and hotel service jobs galore!!!

Meanwhile, in the USA, Trump’s insane ideas about immigration and import tariffs will deprive the States of needed skilled (and unskilled) labor and raise produce and retail prices. If the yokels had economic anxiety last year, just wait till a recession hits this year or next.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:22:00am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But think of all the money they are going to save!!!

/

What, they’re all switching to GEICO to save 15% or more off their car insurance? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:24:46am

re: #204 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, in the USA, Trump’s insane ideas about immigration and import tariffs will deprive the States of needed skilled (and unskilled) labor and raise produce and retail prices. If the yokels had economic anxiety last year, just wait till a recession hits this year or next.

That will be Obama’s and the Democrat’s fault for blocking all attempts to remove job-killing government regulation.

Please stop thinking in logical categories. This is all about irrational fear and hatred.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:25:34am
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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:27:38am

If you have friends or relatives siding with Trump’s protectionism, challenge them to check the labels of everything they own or buy — including food. They will find most items are made abroad, because it’s cheaper. Cheaper production costs mean cheaper retail prices.

Manufacturers are not going to abandon factories they already have abroad, and build new ones in the USA. That makes no business sense at all. What they will do is raise retail prices to compensate for Trump’s tariffs. So, most everything will cost substantially more *and* no new jobs will be created in the USA.

Or if they can’t comprehend basic economics, ask them why Wal-mart abandoned its former policy of only selling products made in America. The main reasons: (1) many products were no longer being made in the USA and (2) those that were made in the USA were more expensive, and weren’t selling.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:28:47am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:30:13am

re: #198 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like the EU is going to hand about a 50bn Euro bill to exit, with the threat of the UK being cut off from the EU market as leverage.

economist.com

Sorry not sorry here. These loons knew of the consequences of leaving the EU and still are going through with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:30:56am

re: #210 Myron Falwell

Sorry not sorry here. These loons knew of the consequences of leaving the EU and still are going through with it.

The people promoting it did, most of the voters not. Sounds very familiar…

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:31:31am

Only in China: the national railway ticketing website shuts down its ordering services after 11 pm. So, even though I can see there are tickets available, I can’t book them till next morning.

This is why I hate traveling around Chinese New Year.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:32:14am

You know, I’m just tired of seeing “This is why Trump won” in response to people who want us to be vigilant about our hard gained rights. I’m sick of being lectured about fere speech by people of the ideology that literally were condoning the idea of employees seeking out employees they knew voted for Obama and firing them. Been saying it for months now but say whatever you want to say, just don’t bitch to me if someone takes exception with it. You have free speech not “I can say whatever the hell I want and consequences be damned spech.”

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:32:39am
The Russian dissident and chess grandmaste r Garry Kasparov drew upon long familiarity with that process when he tweeted: “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

shameless page promotion

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:33:45am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

Link does not work. :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:34:31am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

My ex-mother-in-law used to do that as well…she had my ex and me both pulling our hair out and questioning reality

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:37:04am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

Link does not work. :(

fix-ed

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:37:27am

Oh and people who want to be able to run over protesters but please lecture me some more about how I don’t understand free speech because I think it’s perfectly okay to call someone out when they’re saying bigoted shit. Sorry guys. This shit just really grinds me.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:37:50am

This photo came across my Twitter feed. It begs for sarcastic captioning and/or Photoshopping.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:39:59am

re: #219 wheat-dogg

This photo came across my Twitter feed. It begs for sarcastic captioning and/or Photoshopping.

It surely does, but I just do not find Trump humor funny any more, no matter how spot-on or biting it is…it is all just so…sad.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:40:25am

re: #217 Birth Control Works

Yes. Thanks.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:41:49am
Of course, there’s a time-lag between filming a television show and airing it — often five or six months. If the folks behind The Man in the High Castle were reading the pollsters in March or April of 2016, they probably thought Hillary Clinton was on her way to a victory. No one knew then that, come 2017, George Orwell’s 1984 would again become a bestseller, and the showrunners presumably didn’t anticipate that millions of people concerned about Trump’s authoritarian tendencies might be eager for a high-concept show about resistance to fascism. And in past years perhaps the show’s premise would have worked. We do love our antiheroes in fancy dramas (take Walter White in Breaking Bad and, I would argue, Sherlock Holmes in his titular BBC series).

another shameless Pages Promotion

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:42:33am

re: #178 Myron Falwell

In Robespierre’s case, he actually did bring down a republic (France’s first).

Robespierre went after the 1% and the ruling authorities. So Trump and his family would be the first on the block, as well as everyone who would be getting the biggest benefits from the proposed new tax cuts.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:43:29am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It surely does, but I just do not find Trump humor funny any more, no matter how spot-on or biting it is…it is all just so…sad.

Sad… or ‘Sad!’ ?

half /

Seriously, when you watch someone become utterly unhinged in real time before and after attaining total power, it kinda isn’t that funny.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:43:49am

Quick drive-by to say fuck Shaun King.
extranewsfeed.com

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:44:06am

bbl

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:44:48am

Trump’s new immigration policy in action. A woman who has lived in the US since she was 14 and has two teenage US citizen children was arrested during her regular visit to ICE and is going to be deported because she used a fake ss number to work nine years ago.

slate.com

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:45:23am

It’s hard to tell if this person is a poe or really believes this shit.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:48:59am

re: #227 Big Beautiful Door

Trump’s new immigration policy in action. A woman who has lived in the US since she was 14 and has two teenage US citizen children was arrested during her regular visit to ICE and is going to be deported because she used a fake ss number to work nine years ago.

slate.com

Many undocumented workers use faked SSNs to get jobs, which means their employers and the employees pay into the SS system. Some employers look the other way, because they need the workers or they want to help them out. As far as I’m concerned, the only people getting shafted are the undocumented workers, who are paying into a retirement system they will never be able to benefit from.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:51:15am
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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:53:12am

re: #178 Myron Falwell

In Robespierre’s case, he actually did bring down a republic (France’s first).

It’s heartening to realize that at least dear Maxmillien was the last person to lose his head. I badly want the analogy to hold.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:53:40am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

The history of the US in the Republican world stops in 1960.

By their logic, we’re still part of the British Empire because the Puritans were from England.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:54:38am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:54:48am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Where’s that graphic you tout showing how the vote for the CRA is the demarcation between pre- and post- party affiliation?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:54:59am

re: #224 Myron Falwell

Sad… or ‘Sad!’ ?

half /

Seriously, when you watch someone become utterly unhinged in real time before and after attaining total power, it kinda isn’t that funny.

When I watch a nation that I love and am proud of going down the tubes, it is very sad.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:55:01am

From a friend’s facebook feed:

McConnell’s panties got twisted
As Elizabeth Warren resisted
Jowls flapping, he scorned
Be silent, he warned
“Nevertheless, she persisted”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:55:09am

re: #192 wheat-dogg

I wager that China has been doing a lot of selling, as it tries to shore up its own economy. The People’s Bank has also gotten very worried about Chinese using bitcoin to move money offshore, and they’ve been “investigating” the major bitcoin exchanges in China. The exchanges have tightened up their procedures (no margin trading and no fee waivers for activity), and now two have announced users can no longer withdraw bitcoins from their accounts. That means no one can send those bitcoins abroad.

Also between the economy reaching near full employment and anticipation of inflationary policies from Trump, interests rate are going up, so the value of bonds go down.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:55:29am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

.@RCamposDuffy: “It was Republicans who freed the slaves. It was Republicans who fought for 40 years to give women the right to vote.”

But slavery really wasn’t that bad, the Confederacy was honorable, and maybe giving women the vote wasn’t all that great, to be perfectly honest.

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(alpuz)  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:55:49am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Oh boy, it’s a good thing we’re getting schooled by Real World Rachel about ‘the left’.

I mean … she’s qualified because. Right?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:56:28am

re: #225 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Quick drive-by to say fuck Shaun King.
extranewsfeed.com

I’m tired of Bernie worshipers acting like Bernie is the only decent voice we have in the Dem caucus. Such bullshit but by all means pin your hopes arond a guy wo turns 80 the year of the next inauguration and stil doesn’t get a lot of issues.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:57:06am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

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Coming from the man who literally has said that Jesse Helms was his political hero, suck a dick, Ted.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:57:26am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When I watch a nation that I love and am proud of going down the tubes, it is very sad.

I knew we were in trouble as soon as I heard Trump had won the EVs. My mood has not substantially improved since then, as he has so far managed to do everything I feared he and the GOP said they would.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:58:38am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It surely does, but I just do not find Trump humor funny any more, no matter how spot-on or biting it is…it is all just so…sad.

In order to not plunge into despair, I have to look at it all as a dark, dark, very dark, pitch black dark comedy.

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darthstar  Feb 9, 2017 • 7:58:51am
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weave  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:00:49am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:01:12am

re: #233 Sherlock Hound

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:04:04am

re: #233 Sherlock Hound

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White out up here. Working at home today—no Dunks.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:04:42am

re: #246 lawhawk

NWS is calling for around 14” where I am, at the easternmost side of the storm. Snow is picking up but no whiteout yet! (When I can’t see the building across the street, then it’s a whiteout. :) )

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:07:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:08:01am

re: #242 wheat-dogg

I knew we were in trouble as soon as I heard Trump had won the EVs. My mood has not substantially improved since then, as he has so far managed to do everything I feared he and the GOP said they would.

I knew that our nation was in trouble as soon as “now trending on Twitter” became a regular news item…

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:09:52am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:11:11am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

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I do declare that the Attorney General makes John Ashcroft look like a bleeding heart.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:12:41am

re: #251 MsJ

That was scathing.

If Trump isn’t doing stupid bragging, he’s whining. You trashed the judiciary. Something that judges of all judicial ideologies have a problem with, Donnie, deal with it and stop whining.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:15:23am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:18:16am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

We need to end this lawlessness.

But not in the Executive Branch. Or the stuff dealing with Russia.

Nope, we’re going to go after minorities, all while ignoring excessive force complaints against cops who target said minorities. Because it’s all about making sure angry white guys who never interact with anyone who isn’t white are “safe.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:20:04am

re: #254 lawhawk

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It’s something you learn in grade school FFS.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:20:05am

re: #247 Barefoot Grin

White out up here. Working at home today—no Dunks.

I think all my clients stayed home today, so I’m drinking coffee and eating a blueberry muffin. I may switch over to hot chocolate with Bailey’s and maybe some combustibles later because tonight’s rehearsal has been canceled.

And it’s still snowing like fuck out there. The wind is making that cliched howling noise you always hear in the movies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:20:24am

re: #255 lawhawk

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We need to end this lawlessness.

But not in the Executive Branch. Or the stuff dealing with Russia.

Nope, we’re going to go after minorities, all while ignoring excessive force complaints against cops who target said minorities. Because it’s all about making sure angry white guys who never interact with anyone who isn’t white are “safe.”

Fuck Sessions.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:22:33am

Twitter operates at a massive loss. I would expect that Gab won’t have the backing that allows a non-viable business to operate for as long as Twitter has.
bbc.com

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:22:53am

I just listened to a fascinating interview with Tim Tyson about his book The Blood of Emmett Till wherein he reminded that Emmett Till fell into a lawless war zone in Mississippi when he was set up by a white woman for terror and lynching. He was street smart about racism having grown up in the most segregated, racist city in America—Chicago. It’s not an accident that certain neighborhoods in Chicago are in bad shape. You can trace back through the days of Emmett Till to the waves of southern black workers looking for jobs and finding extreme discrimination and predation in Chicago. That’s also “lawlessness.”

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:23:52am

re: #257 makeitstop

I think all my clients stayed home today, so I’m drinking coffee and eating a blueberry muffin. I may switch over to hot chocolate with Bailey’s and maybe some combustibles later because tonight’s rehearsal has been canceled.

And it’s still snowing like fuck out there. The wind is making that cliched howling noise you always hear in the movies.

Damn. Today would be a great day for combustibles (except for the little bandwidth theives who are home from school).

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:25:41am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Fuck Sessions.

Watch your language.

It’s “Fuck Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:27:03am

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

I just listened to a fascinating interview with Tim Tyson about his book The Blood of Emmett Till wherein he reminded that Emmett Till fell into a lawless war zone in Mississippi when he was set up by a white woman for terror and lynching. He was street smart about racism having grown up in the most segregated, racist city in America—Chicago. It’s not an accident that certain neighborhoods in Chicago are in bad shape. You can trace back through the days of Emmett Till to the waves of southern black workers looking for jobs and finding extreme discrimination and predation in Chicago. That’s also “lawlessness.”

White males who get tired of being “lectured” about identity politics need to be aware of shit like this.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:28:24am

re: #254 lawhawk

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:35:37am

re: #202 sagehen

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Sniff. That was beautiful.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:35:52am

I just posted a page of a photo of the snow in my street. Something pleasant to look at.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:36:06am

re: #255 lawhawk

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We need to end this lawlessness.

But not in the Executive Branch. Or the stuff dealing with Russia.

Nope, we’re going to go after minorities, all while ignoring excessive force complaints against cops who target said minorities. Because it’s all about making sure angry white guys who never interact with anyone who isn’t white are “safe.”

What lawlessness? I swear, every time I hear Republicans talk about crime and the state of the world, I feel like I’m living in a completely different universe from them.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:36:43am

re: #210 Myron Falwell

Sorry not sorry here. These loons knew of the consequences of leaving the EU and still are going through with it.

Those “loons” were lied to and lied to well. They were stupid for not knowing what they were voting for or for believing the lies. Those lies included advertising using the official NHS logo saying it would save their healthcare system.

They are not loons. They are misinformed, sometimes desperate people. And they are no different than the people here who hope that trump will save their towns (he can’t and won’t).

That is an extremely cold hearted comment. You may feel little sympathy for those who voted to leave (for trump) but there are millions who did not and who will also suffer.

Just saying.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:37:19am

re: #267 KGxvi

What lawlessness? I swear, every time I hear Republicans talk about crime and the state of the world, I feel like I’m living in a completely different universe from them.

Indeed, crime has been falling. My favorite was when Walker acted like violence towards cops in the Obama years was such a problem and someone pointed out that cop deaths reached their peak number in the Reagan years. Not saying those cops deaths were Reagan’s fault but Walker certainly did try to say cops dying was Obama’s fault.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:39:19am

re: #219 wheat-dogg

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BlueGrl21  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:40:08am

I work in tech. We don’t like the Muslim ban (and I WILL call it that), as has been made very apparent.

Being geeks, we have our own ways of communicating solidarity with our brethren. A few days ago, one of us said, “You know, we special snowflakes need to make it clear where we stand. We’re decorating.”

We got into old coffee filters and spent a couple of hours in a snowflake creation meeting. Gave everyone scissors and said to go back to their childhood.

Then we hung them from the ceiling all over our floor. When our immigrant family comes in every day, they see a ceiling full of snowflakes. They know why.

It’s one of the most beautiful gestures I’ve ever seen. And it makes me proud every day to walk onto my floor and see the flurry of them.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:40:18am

re: #268 MsJ

For the record, the loons I’m referring to are the pols who lied to the common help, knowing full well the consequences of their actions.

Not the voters who fell for it and will pay dearly for generations to come…

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:40:44am

re: #267 KGxvi

What lawlessness? I swear, every time I hear Republicans talk about crime and the state of the world, I feel like I’m living in a completely different universe from them.

America is a hell-hole of rioting women, Cal Berkeley students and Black Lives Matter activists.

/

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:41:11am

WTFITS

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:42:12am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:44:16am

Got A Idiot in my mentions

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

WTFITS

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Yay for low expectations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:45:30am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Dumbass, it was a Democratic President who introduced & signed the bill, & GOP candidate voted against it. Learn some history

History, like Holy Scripture, lends itself readily to selective interpretation.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:45:47am

re: #272 Myron Falwell

For the record, the loons I’m referring to are the pols who lied to the common help, knowing full well the consequences of their actions.

Not the voters who fell for it and will pay dearly for generations to come…

All of this shit breaks my heart. The US won’t recover from this in my lifetime. The UK hasn’t realized the level of fucked that they are. They are going to be paying wheelbarrows full of money for bread.

And god help all of us if LaPen wins because the EU will fall.

I can barely snark at this any longer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:45:59am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Got A Idiot in my mentions

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Strom Thurmond who later became a Republican and who later had the Republican Majority Leader say things would have been better off if he had been elected President. That’s who filibustered it. Civil Rights was a regional and ideological battle. Liberal Northern Republicans supported it as did Liberal Northern Democrats. Conservatives from the South in both parties opposed it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:46:36am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

History, like Holy Scripture, lends itself readily to selective interpretation.

I just looked at its timeline. It appears to be devoted to this one singular talking point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:46:50am

You don’t get to take “credit” for CRA-1964 when your own party’s nominee voted against it. Do the individual Republicans who voted for it deserve credit? Yeah they do. Too bad the party doesn’t resemble what they believed in any more.

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:47:43am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

That reminds me of an old Lenin joke.

Lenin’s widow, Krupskaya was telling a class of Soviet schoolchildren what a kind man Lenin had been.
“One day “, she said, “he was standing outside his dacha shaving himself with a bowl of water and an open razor. A little boy came to watch him and asked him what he was doing. “I’m, shaving little boy”, Lenin said.
“Why did that make Lenin a kind man?” asked one of the class.
“Don’t you see”, said Krupskaya, “he could have cut the little boy’s throat but he didn’t”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:47:48am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Strom Thurmond who later became a Republican and who later had the Republican Majority Leader say things would have been better off if he had been elected President. That’s who filibustered it. Civil Rights was a regional and ideological battle. Liberal Northern Republicans supported it as did Liberal Northern Democrats. Conservatives from the South in both parties opposed it.

Barry Goldwater (who would be considered A LIBERAL!!!! today) voted against the Civil Rights Act and yet this did not prevent him from being nominated by the GOP to run for POTUS in 1964.

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petesh  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:48:22am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

Some of it is style, some just a matter of giving Bannon time. I mean, you can’t fuck everything up in two weeks. They’ve been trying hard, but falling short. In terms of style:

Beheading journalists — no, he’ll just get them fired and jailed
Chemical weapons — not on the Kurds, silly, on the Native Americans
Child soldiers — well, miners and chimneysweeps, so why not?
Mass executions — not Christians, silly, say no more
Declared a — white nationalist authoritarian state

Oops, someone’s knocking’ at my door …

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:48:50am

I can’t wait to see what it is going to take for someone to act.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:49:43am
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CongoJack  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:49:47am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

That. Makes. My. Head. Hurt.

I wonder what the check marks would look like if it was Goebbels that Bannon was being compared to instead of Baghdadi.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:50:35am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:50:43am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

WTFITS

Who is Baghdadi?

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:51:43am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Who is Baghdadi?

AQ#2 I believe. Maybe #1.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:51:45am

re: #286 MsJ

I can’t wait to see what it is going to take for someone to act.

@JuddLegum
Kellyanne Conway tells America to ‘buy Ivanka’s stuff,’ may have just violated federal law goo.gl

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third does not regard this as the “lawlessness” to which he referred.

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:52:15am

re: #275 Nyet

Because his logic is like, “my grandpa wasn’t a monkey so evolution is a myth, I have Jewish friends, so there was no Holocaust”.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:52:17am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Who is Baghdadi?

Self-proclaimed “Caliph” of IS.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:53:11am

re: #289 MsJ

Aww. Wafer would definitely get scratched or petted from me.

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:56:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:57:20am

re: #291 MsJ

AQ#2 I believe. Maybe #1.

AQ #1 is Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:58:17am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Who is Baghdadi?

ISIS.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:58:42am

re: #286 MsJ

I can’t wait to see what it is going to take for someone to act.

Since it’s the beginning of the year, I’m having to take the company’s annual ethics refresher training. Trump and Co are actively violating every ethics course I’m taking.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:58:59am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

AQ #1 is Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Who was I recall right part of the assassination of Sadat in Egypt.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:01:27am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Who was I recall right part of the assassination of Sadat in Egypt.

Yep, that’s the guy.

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:03:08am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

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And another idiotic reality “star” is heard from (not sure who is dumber, Rachel Campos-Duffy or her reality “star” husband, Rep. Sean.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:04:25am

re: #286 MsJ

I can’t wait to see what it is going to take for someone to act.

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A lot more than we think sadly. We aren’t dealing with sane, rational people here.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:05:35am

re: #285 petesh

Some of it is style, some just a matter of giving Bannon time. I mean, you can’t fuck everything up in two weeks. They’ve been trying hard, but falling short. In terms of style:

Beheading journalists — no, he’ll just get them fired and jailed
Chemical weapons — not on the Kurds, silly, on the Native Americans
Child soldiers — well, miners and chimneysweeps, so why not?
Mass executions — not Christians, silly, say no more
Declared a — white nationalist authoritarian state

Oops, someone’s knocking’ at my door …

“Ask the cop who’s knockin’ at your back door…go ahead, ask him.” [obscure Firesign Theatre ref]

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:07:23am

Fox “News” is pure evil.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:08:21am

re: #286 MsJ

I can’t wait to see what it is going to take for someone to act.

When Trump and Bannon no longer can give Ryan and McConnell everything that their hearts so desire, of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:08:38am

re: #283 Nyet

That reminds me of an old Lenin joke.

Lenin’s widow, Krupskaya was telling a class of Soviet schoolchildren what a kind man Lenin had been.
“One day “, she said, “he was standing outside his dacha shaving himself with a bowl of water and an open razor. A little boy came to watch him and asked him what he was doing. “I’m, shaving little boy”, Lenin said.
“Why did that make Lenin a kind man?” asked one of the class.
“Don’t you see”, said Krupskaya, “he could have cut the little boy’s throat but he didn’t”.

Totally OT, but my favorite Lenin joke involves a group of people touring a museum and looking at a painting entitled “Lenin in Zurich”. On it are portrayed two pairs of bare legs, a woman’s and a man’s.

“Whose legs are those on the left?” asks a woman

“Lenin’s wife, Nadezhda Krupskaya,” answers the guide.

“And whose are those on the right?” asks another.

“Those belong to Felix Dzherzhinski, head of Lenin’s Secret Police,” replies the guide.

“So where is Lenin?” asks another visitor.

“In Zurich,” replies the guide.

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petesh  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:08:44am

re: #304 Barefoot Grin

“Ask the cop who’s knockin’ at your back door…go ahead, ask him.” [obscure Firesign Theatre ref]

Didn’t know it was a Firesign ref, but we were thinking along the same lines

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:09:32am

re: #305 Skip Intro

Fox “News” is pure evil.

Yes, and they are reveling in it these days.

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scottslemmons  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:12:27am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, and they are reveling in it these days.

Fox is really champing at the bit to start telling their viewers where the Tutsis are hiding.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:20:31am

re: #270 MsJ

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Perfect

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:20:37am

re: #310 scottslemmons

Fox is really champing at the bit to start telling their viewers where the Tutsis are hiding.

Damn…accurate, but…damn.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:22:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:24:11am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:25:16am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

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Brady himself didn’t go to the WH when Obama was President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:25:44am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:26:45am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Brady himself didn’t go to the WH when Obama was President.

I’ll cut him some slack. He went shopping for the new Apple watch.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:28:06am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

SAO says Abe’s visit to Mar A Lago is “a personal gift” and something that “the President is doing for the Prime Minister”

That 50 bucks on the nightstand is a “personal gift” and this blowjob is just “something this stripper is doing for a patron of the club”.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:28:30am

I don’t know much about the Belk chain, but they’ve dropped Ivanka’s line as well.

Thousands of customers have accused Belk of playing politics with the decision to drop the line, which is owned by President Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka.

Her line of merchandise was targeted last fall by the #GrabYourWallet campaign. The effort urges people to boycott stores that do business with the Trump family. As of Thursday morning, Belk remained on the organization’s list of companies to boycott.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:28:33am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

This is fine

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:29:18am

re: #299 Belafon

Since it’s the beginning of the year, I’m having to take the company’s annual ethics refresher training. Trump and Co are actively violating every ethics course I’m taking.

To paraphrase Leona Helmsley..

Don’t you know — ethics are for little people //

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:29:25am

This just isn’t fucking normal.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:29:27am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

Or when Tom Brady refused to visit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:30:46am

re: #323 Belafon

Or when Tom Brady refused to visit.

They’re seriously using that Brady was bothered by Obama making deflategate jokes as a reason why he didn’t go. Yeah because having a thin skin is different than not wanting to deal with a bigot like McCourty and Bennett don’t want to deal with.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:31:09am

FWIW, I’d go regardless but I don’t have a problem with individuals choosing not to go either.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:31:50am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

SAO says Abe’s visit to Mar A Lago is “a personal gift” and something that “the President is doing for the Prime Minister”

Someone needs to make him understand that as president, there are no “personal gifts” to other people.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:32:08am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

A lot more than we think sadly. We aren’t dealing with sane, rational people here.

I don’t know that they are not sane or rational…but the definitely are power hungry.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:33:27am

Where can I find a running list of all the high crimes & misdemeanors that Trump has committed in the last 3 weeks?

I mean, somebody has to be keeping a list, right?

Right?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:34:29am
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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:34:53am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

Much of Bruins Nation DESPISED Tim Thomas for snubbing Obama. He got traded shortly thereafter.

I have no feelings against Patriots players who feel they must snub Trump. I just know they’ll be accused of hypocrisy.

And, I must think, the players would be in the best position to tell Trump to fuck himself sideways. What can Trump really do to them?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:38:28am

re: #329 Dr. Matt

That is good to know. And if I can get to King of Prussia on the weekend I will try to buy something from Nordstrom.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:40:10am

Everything is fine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:40:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:41:47am

re: #333 The Vicious Babushka

Putin is laughing his ass off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:43:19am

re: #334 Dr Lizardo

Putin is laughing his ass off.

If Trump thinks he can “negotiate a bigger, better deal” with Putin because he, Trump, possesses awesome dealmaking superpowers, Putin will eat his fucking lunch.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:44:16am

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

If Trump thinks he can “negotiate a bigger, better deal” with Putin because he, Trump, possesses awesome dealmaking superpowers, Putin will eat his fucking lunch.

And his dessert, too. Possibly even drink Trump’s milkshake.

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:44:36am

Rod Serling voice: Imagine if you will…

dissolve to:

Ivanka Trump’s company starts making some cheap-ass googahs at the Trump Winery facility (likely employing undocumented immigrants and paying $2.00 per hour); Daddy schedules a press conference in the Oval Office, to announce adding jerbs to the US economy; A red carpet rolls out from behind the desk; a fashion show of Ivanka’s crap commences, with Melania leading the models and the yam providing commentary.

Rod Serling Voice: “What you feared would come like an explosion is like a whisper. What you thought was the end is the beginning.” (from Nothing In the Dark TZ episode)

And the last line is either:
Live from New York, it’s Saturday Night
or
And as we fade out on what was once the United States of America…

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electrotek  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:48:57am

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

If Trump thinks he can “negotiate a bigger, better deal” with Putin because he, Trump, possesses awesome dealmaking superpowers, Putin will eat his fucking lunch.

If Japanese PM Shinzo Abe of all people couldn’t convince Putin to give up the Kuril Islands, what makes anyone think Trump will be successful in anything lesser than that?

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:49:30am

Damn those Hollywood liberals!

The United Talent Agency announced Wednesday that it’s scrapping its Oscars party in protest of President Donald Trump’s immigration ban.

Instead, the company will donate $250,000 to the American Civil Liberties Union and the International Rescue Committee, and it’ll host a rally supporting immigration, per Variety…

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:50:31am

re: #339 BeachDem

Damn those Hollywood liberals!

The United Talent Agency announced Wednesday that it’s scrapping its Oscars party in protest of President Donald Trump’s immigration ban.

Instead, the company will donate $250,000 to the American Civil Liberties Union and the International Rescue Committee, and it’ll host a rally supporting immigration, per Variety…

huffingtonpost.com

Those damn elites. //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:52:23am

Watching White Helmets on Netflix. All I can say is “damn”.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:52:54am

re: #334 Dr Lizardo

Putin is laughing his ass off.

I wouldn’t worry. It’s not just the President, but also the Secretary of Energy who…. Oh, shit.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:54:38am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:58:43am
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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:58:45am

re: #344 Interesting Times

I sent her best wishes earlier today. I hope she is ok.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:03:01am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

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So when does he start trashing the family?

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:03:41am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (breathe) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I am sure he will hop to that straight away.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:04:04am

We’re talking about a guy who repeatedly trashed the military action of other leaders but the poor snowflake can’t be criticized when it was his poor decisions. Man fuck Trump. Just go to Russia and leave the rest of us alone.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:04:27am

Paraphrasing Stephen Colbert: Ivanka’s clothing line sales down probably because women don’t want to wear clothes that make them attractive to their fathers.

Found it: “Evidently, not a lot of women wanted to buy clothes that made them attractive to their fathers.” — COLBERT

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:05:12am

Gah

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:06:26am

re: #348 MsJ

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (breathe) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I am sure he will hop to that straight away.

Awesome. Keep it up, Democrats. And they need to talk about this. One of the things a number of people voted for Trump was to end the corruption in Washington (yes, I know, but they don’t). The violation of even basic rules will drive a wedge between these people and Trump.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:09:43am
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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:10:49am
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CongoJack  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:10:59am

re: #352 Belafon

I sadly disagree. People (like my Grandmother in Kansas) will NEVER hear this story. In their land of hell Fox News is on basic TV. If they want MSNBC, CNN, etc they have to pay extra (and they are cheap and wont - though they could - the reason for this is because the Koch Brothers own Kansas). So unless FOX “News” covers it they wont ever hear about it - and if… IF it is covered on FOX it will be twisted in such a way that they will think Conway is under attack by the evil “Democrats.”

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:11:43am

Pierce:

What Jeff Sessions Means for Our Future/ A lot of things died with his confirmation last night.

Whatever Donald Trump wants to do to people, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III will do it for him. He’s not an attorney general. He’s an in-house counsel, one might even say a consigliere—but none of us want Mitch McConnell to think us uncivil.

esquire.com

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:12:13am
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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:12:56am

re: #353 MsJ

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I love that man.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:13:23am

re: #355 CongoJack

I sadly disagree. People (like my Grandmother in Kansas) will NEVER hear this story. In their land of hell Fox News is on basic TV. If they want MSNBC, CNN, etc they have to pay extra (and they are cheap and wont - though they could - the reason for this is because the Koch Brothers own Kansas). So unless FOX “News” covers it they wont ever hear about it - and if… IF it is covered on FOX it will be twisted in such a way that they will think Conway is under attack by the evil “Democrats.”

They would hear about it here in my very red, yet rather well off county in Texas, which went 70% for Trump. And lots of things, such as discontinuing his daughters clothing line, are going to be considered an attack on Trump, so we shouldn’t let that stop us.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:13:28am

re: #275 Nyet

Sergey Romanov @S_ergeyR_omanov
@PrisonPlanet What else is not a thing? Evolution? Holocaust?
11:41 AM - 9 Feb 2017
Retweets 2 2 likes

Paul Joseph Watson is not a thing.

Never was in my world…never will be.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:13:37am

re: #357 MsJ

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Can’t wait for a bunch of Republican assholes to tell her that she doesn’t understand what her father’s legacy is.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:13:52am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:14:16am

re: #362 MsJ

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Lovely. I need a fucking drink just thinking about this shit.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:15:29am

We’re into the trailing edge of the snow here in northern NJ according to the radar. Figure another hour or so and the snow will be done.

I’d say we got a solid 9 inches here. By solid I mean heart-attack snow. This is the heavy stuff that breaks trees, power lines, and kills people trying to shovel. Good for snowball fights though.

They haven’t updated the official totals at the NWS site yet, but it’s looking like NJ escaped the worst of it. Long Island? Not so fortunate.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:17:47am

re: #364 lawhawk

Philly has a wind advisory. I am going to have to call my roofer. My downspout is loose again. :(

weather.gov

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:18:34am

Oooh, some news about Stranger Things S2. Neat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:21:34am

re: #357 MsJ

…accept that he is our legally elected President, but do not treat him as a normal president: he is a man with no record of public service, one who will not release records of his business dealings or separate himself from his business once in office and one who tweets about business deals involving family members…. during security briefings.

None of that can be construed as “normal” and we make a mistake to talk of him or treat him as if it were.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:23:22am

re: #364 lawhawk

We’re into the trailing edge of the snow here in northern NJ according to the radar. Figure another hour or so and the snow will be done.

I’d say we got a solid 9 inches here. By solid I mean heart-attack snow. This is the heavy stuff that breaks trees, power lines, and kills people trying to shovel. Good for snowball fights though.

They haven’t updated the official totals at the NWS site yet, but it’s looking like NJ escaped the worst of it. Long Island? Not so fortunate.

We’re (still) under a flood warning with more rain expected this afternoon.

NWS

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:24:05am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…accept that he is our legally elected President, but do not treat him as a normal president: he is a man with no record of public service, one who will not release records of his business dealings or separate himself from his business once in office and one who tweets about business deals involving family members. during security briefings.

None of that can be construed as “normal” and we make a mistake to talk of him or treat him as if it were.

Nothing about this is normal.

And nothing about this is anywhere in the hemisphere of good or acceptable.

Yet we have an entire political party who does not care. And that party is in charge of two branches of government (soon to be three once donny instills his toadies on the SCOTUS).

This is not America any longer.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:24:22am

re: #305 Skip Intro

Fox “News” is pure evil.

FOX News has become this country’s Pravda.

It is the official news outlet of the Republicans and even more so now that they seem to be selling Trump to everyone…that watches.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:26:11am

re: #362 MsJ

Bannon Believes The Apocalypse Is Coming And War Is Inevitable - & he intends to force it on us

My gay republican buddy from Phoenix has been on for ages about the Fourth Turning and the Great Revolution, and I can imagine he is well pleased to see this guy slouching us towards Armageddon.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:26:53am

re: #370 ObserverArt

FOX News has become this country’s Pravda.

It is the official news outlet of the Republicans and even more so now that they seem to be selling Trump to everyone…that watches.

Here’s how low Fox is dropping standards for the executive branch.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:28:15am

re: #319 makeitstop

I don’t know much about the Belk chain, but they’ve dropped Ivanka’s line as well.

Thousands???

Seems to me if thousands bought the stuff the stores wouldn’t have dropped it.

Fake outrage…goes with fake news and alt-facts.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:30:12am

re: #364 lawhawk

We’re into the trailing edge of the snow here in northern NJ according to the radar. Figure another hour or so and the snow will be done.

I’d say we got a solid 9 inches here. By solid I mean heart-attack snow. This is the heavy stuff that breaks trees, power lines, and kills people trying to shovel. Good for snowball fights though.

They haven’t updated the official totals at the NWS site yet, but it’s looking like NJ escaped the worst of it. Long Island? Not so fortunate.

Yeah, we’re still getting hammered here, with an easy 6 to 8 inches on the ground already. The blizzard warning is in effect until 6:00, and if it keeps up for that long we won’t be getting to work tomorrow, either.

The view from my front porch, as of about a half hour ago -

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:30:28am
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:31:18am

re: #373 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:31:29am

re: #376 jaunte

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If Kellyanne Conway’s name was Hillary Clinton, Jason would be right on that but because he’s a hack, he could care less.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:32:23am

re: #376 jaunte

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Sure he will, right after he gets done with the 98th Benghazi hearing sometime in 2024.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:34:19am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

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Where’s the blue checkmark?

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CongoJack  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:35:12am

re: #362 MsJ

[Embedded content]

This is basically the formation of the new age Nazi death cult. But in this instance its not just a segment of society they are going after… it is everyone and everything. For some reason this American Dad episode came to mind (start at 1 min 20 sec).

American Dad - The Rapture

(Edit: wrong time stamp corrected)

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:35:19am

I’m glad that he asked for an explanation. But if he did his homework BEFORE the meeting, he’d have known what the treaties contain. Trump is absolutely fascinated by nukes. We saw this in the campaign, and we’re seeing inklings of it now. None of this is good. It’s almost like he’s trying to figure out how he could actually pull the trigger on using them.

There isn’t any scenario right now that would call for it. But Trump would more than likely try to use it say if North Korea tested a missile in short order after another nuclear test. Or Iran.

He’s out to prove he’s crazier than everyone else, and so far, he’s right. He is.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:35:39am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:36:08am

re: #382 lawhawk

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I’m glad that he asked for an explanation. But if he did his homework BEFORE the meeting, he’d have known what the treaties contain. Trump is absolutely fascinated by nukes. We saw this in the campaign, and we’re seeing inklings of it now. None of this is good. It’s almost like he’s trying to figure out how he could actually pull the trigger on using them.

There isn’t any scenario right now that would call for it. But Trump would more than likely try to use it say if North Korea tested a missile in short order after another nuclear test. Or Iran.

He’s out to prove he’s crazier than everyone else, and so far, he’s right. He is.

He’s completely unqualified for the job.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:38:06am

re: #373 jaunte

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Here’s how low Fox is dropping standards for the executive branch.

I saw that up thread…that is what triggered my comment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:38:34am

re: #348 MsJ

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (breathe) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I am sure he will hop to that straight away.

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Right after he starts another investigation of Hillary’s emails.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:38:45am

re: #385 ObserverArt

Sorry for duplicating. I just arrived.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:38:54am

re: #374 ObserverArt

Thousands???

Seems to me if thousands bought the stuff the stores wouldn’t have dropped it.

Fake outrage…goes with fake news and alt-facts.

How come we aren’t hearing about the free market? Isn’t THIS exactly what the free market is?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:39:41am

I’m going to qualify for Carson’s old job at Hopkins. Maybe I’ll get it if I tell them I’m an outsider and the neurosurgery field needs someone who tells it as is. I’ll also call Carson and the other surgeons completely stupid and suggest they’re crooked.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:39:58am

re: #380 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Where’s the blue checkmark?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:40:20am

re: #388 allegro

How come we aren’t hearing about the free market? Isn’t THIS exactly what the free market is?

Because the free market to cons oinly applies to corporations doing whatever the fuck they want. Individuals Less so.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:40:45am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

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Still in campaign mode. Still acting like a giant chode face.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:41:43am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Still in campaign mode. Still acting like a giant chode face.

As Lady Gaga says, he was Born That Way

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:41:43am

re: #382 lawhawk

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I’m glad that he asked for an explanation. But if he did his homework BEFORE the meeting, he’d have known what the treaties contain. Trump is absolutely fascinated by nukes. We saw this in the campaign, and we’re seeing inklings of it now. None of this is good. It’s almost like he’s trying to figure out how he could actually pull the trigger on using them.

There isn’t any scenario right now that would call for it. But Trump would more than likely try to use it say if North Korea tested a missile in short order after another nuclear test. Or Iran.

He’s out to prove he’s crazier than everyone else, and so far, he’s right. He is.

I bet the average LGF member knows more about Russian treaties than Trump.

Hell, I bet the average LGF member knows more about a lot of things than Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:42:46am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Still in campaign mode. Still acting like a giant chode face.

upding for giant chode face

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:42:57am

re: #387 jaunte

Sorry for duplicating. I just arrived.

No need to be sorry.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:44:58am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Still in campaign mode. Still acting like a giant chode face.

He never left it. IIRC he has already filed to run for reelection in 2020.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:45:29am

re: #373 jaunte

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Here’s how low Fox is dropping standards for the executive branch.

And the thing is, Bannon has only been in power for three weeks, so he just hasn’t had time to match Baghdadi in atrocities yet.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:45:57am

re: #380 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Where’s the blue checkmark?

It’s real. I just grabbed this off his verified account. The checkboxes don’t show up in the TL.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:46:32am

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:47:07am

An informative thread concerning Trump and New START

- 2/n During 3rd debate Trump said of New START: Russia can “create warheads and we can’t.” Full transcript: Third 2016 presidential debate
- 3/n Trump added: “Russia has “tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads, 1,800, by the way. Where they expanded and we didn’t.”
- 4/n Believe it or not Trump correctly stated number of deployed warheads Russia had as of last treaty exchange New START Treaty Aggregate Numbers of Strategic Offensive Arms
- 5/n But this misleading. Russia required to reduce to treaty limit of 1550 warheads by 2018. No indication as of now that they wont do so
- 6/n Meanwhile, US has far more deployed strategic delivery systems and nondeployed strategic warheads than Russia Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance FACT SHEETS & BRIEFS
- 7/n New START critics have long claimed that treaty requires US unilateral reductions but this incorrect. Equal limits on both sides.
- 8/n Trump will need to decide whether to scrap treaty, invite Russia to extend New START for another five years and/or negotiate a new deal
- 9/n Both sides have far more nukes than necessary to deter. And as @ArmsControlWonk notes, budget could force cuts w/ w/o new deal.
- 10/10 As @PMBreedlove noted this morn, prudent to seek engagement w/Russia on further arms control, but terms matter Press Release: U.S., Russia Can And Should Reduce Nuclear Excess, But On Proper Terms - Arms Control Association

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:47:20am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:47:23am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

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Thanks!

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:48:43am

re: #380 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Where’s the blue checkmark?

It’s not supposed to be there.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:48:56am

re: #402 Kragar

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:49:51am

re: #400 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:50:03am
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:50:13am
.Ryan died on a winning mission ( according to General Mattis), not a “failure.” Time for the U.S. to get smart and start winning again!

Semantic content: “I’m right, you’re wrong, shut up.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:50:25am

re: #402 Kragar

Servicemen died. Civilians died. The target got away.

You called for the mission. This is your failure, you weak pathetic weasel. https://

this does not reflect badly at all on those who died doing their duty. It does reflect badly on you, because you called it on bad intel and caused useless and unnecessary deaths.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:51:45am

re: #375 makeitstop

Yeah, we’re still getting hammered here, with an easy 6 to 8 inches on the ground already. The blizzard warning is in effect until 6:00, and if it keeps up for that long we won’t be getting to work tomorrow, either.

The view from my front porch, as of about a half hour ago -

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Don’t know about you guys, but we’re scheduled for another 12-16” Sunday night through Monday.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:52:07am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Where can I find a running list of all the high crimes & misdemeanors that Trump has committed in the last 3 weeks?

I mean, somebody has to be keeping a list, right?

Right?

The ACLU has their list.

In Texas, the courts stand up to the crazy. Texas liberals love our federal judges…they protect us. A typical phrase for the outrageous things our legislators come up with is, “Unconstitutional. Courts will strike it down.” Sure enough, every time the courts strike it down.

Now the rest of the country gets to see why we love these judges. Occasionally a couple of them drive us nuts but in the end the vast bulk of Texas Crazy gets killed off.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:52:10am

re: #402 Kragar

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Nyet  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:52:30am
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lizardofid  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:56:31am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My gay republican buddy from Phoenix has been on for ages about the Fourth Turning and the Great Revolution, and I can imagine he is well pleased to see this guy slouching us towards Armageddon.

Read it too (along with Generations), and found them both “somewhat” compelling as a thought experiment, perhaps even a cautionary tale. Bannon, on the other hand thinks it’s a playbook!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:57:13am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

upding for giant chode face

Those 19 years second great Nana spent in Glasgow did me well :).

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:57:20am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:57:22am

re: #397 Bubblehead II

He never left it. IIRC he has already filed to run for reelection in 2020.

He has.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:01:14am

re: #414 lizardofid

Read it too (along with Generations), and found them both “somewhat” compelling as a thought experiment, perhaps even a cautionary tale. Bannon, on the other hand thinks it’s a playbook!

It is an interesting way to systematize historical developments, but yes, it is not the same as a predictive model.

My buddy and I were both immune to all the Campus Crusaders for Christ who came regularly knocking at our doors when we were doing bong hits at ASU at the turn of the 80’s, but what he has come to embrace is basically a form of pseudo-historically based fundamentalism.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:01:41am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:03:15am

Well, this happened:

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:03:32am

re: #410 Barefoot Grin

Don’t know about you guys, but we’re scheduled for another 12-16” Sunday night through Monday.

I’m afraid to look, TBH. :)

But hey, it is Winter. Snow happens…

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:04:33am

re: #420 lawhawk

Damn, too bad you had to turn offer down :( Because it would mean revealing your IRL identity?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:05:56am

re: #422 Interesting Times

Damn, too bad you had to turn offer down :( Because it would mean revealing your IRL identity?

Okay, okay how many of you are famous? // Which one of you is Meryl Streep and who’s Christie Teigen because my one SiL was star struck when she saw you.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:06:17am

re: #422 Interesting Times

That’s part of it… yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:06:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:06:30am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:06:39am

On a side note though, it’s possible my research on the immigration ruling and all that is going to help my boss’s talking points when he’s interviewed. Not sure who’s gonna interview him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:07:11am
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ipsos  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:07:58am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a long history of “The Winter White House” being wherever the president goes in winter, right back to Harry Truman and Key West. Of all the nasty shit this administration is doing, this one isn’t moving my outrage meter at all.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:08:13am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL. I know where Bundy lives and it looks absolutely nothing like that.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:08:43am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:10:29am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also from her feed:

That’s a much more current situation, and shows that the white supremacists are busy preparing for whatever nightmare scenarios they’ve concocted, all while Bannon/Trump have decided to stop paying attention to that real and direct threat to the nation.

BTW, as an aside, the first question to Sessions should be whether he’s going to continue investigating law enforcement for ties to white supremacists.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:10:51am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was just about to post her first tweet in the thread.
JJMacNab in teaching mode.
She is a must follow.

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CongoJack  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:12:37am

re: #422 Interesting Times

Damn, too bad you had to turn offer down :( Because it would mean revealing your IRL identity?

I’m Batman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:12:43am
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:13:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:13:18am
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:15:08am

re: #430 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

LOL. I know where Bundy lives and it looks absolutely nothing like that.

They always bring their own fresh turf.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:15:42am

re: #439 Barefoot Grin

They always bring their own fresh turf.

And lots of trees that don’t grow here.

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electrotek  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:16:37am

Read all of the responses from Japanese students studying in U.S. about Trump and the future of the world:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:14am

re: #436 Kragar

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I mean yes Bannon is a veteran but so was George Lincoln Rockwell.

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unproven innocence  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:25am

re: #436 Kragar

Those are petty unimportant details for President Bannon.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:52am

This sucks, and I’m a fan of their products:

FREEPORT, Maine (AP) — L.L. Bean is moving to cut costs by freezing pensions and offering voluntary early retirements, and company officials say they are taking a hard look at its generous shipping and return policies.

The Freeport-based outdoors retailer will freeze its defined-benefit pension plan and boost its 401(k) savings contributions to all 5,000 workers, including 1,000 out-of-state store employees who were not previously eligible for the full pension, company officials told The Associated Press.

It’s part of a broader look at all aspects of the business, company officials said, which could lead to changes that affect shoppers.

L.L. Bean currently offers free shipping on everything, and its “satisfaction” guarantee is so liberal that it’s led to abuse of the return policy. Company officials said they will have more to say later this year about shipping and efforts to combat fraudulent returns.

The privately held company expects to reduce its workforce by about 500 workers through early retirement incentives, said CEO Steve Smith. Other employment changes include more flexible time off, paid parental leave and paid eldercare support, benefits employees have been seeking, he said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:54am

re: #421 makeitstop

I’m afraid to look, TBH. :)

But hey, it is Winter. Snow happens…

Germans like to call it Schneechaos (snow chaos) but I always point out that it is not snow chaos: the snow is doing what it does, namely falling and sticking and perhaps drifting. It is the people who cause the chaos by not adapting their behavior, driving and reactions to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:19:07am

re: #431 Kragar

How does stripping consumer protections and lax accountability help the average American?

they will tell you that it is to help job creators create more jobs…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:23:51am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Droid Builder  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:36:19am

re: #208 wheat-dogg

If you have friends or relatives siding with Trump’s protectionism, challenge them to check the labels of everything they own or buy — including food. They will find most items are made abroad, because it’s cheaper. Cheaper production costs mean cheaper retail prices.

Manufacturers are not going to abandon factories they already have abroad, and build new ones in the USA. That makes no business sense at all. What they will do is raise retail prices to compensate for Trump’s tariffs. So, most everything will cost substantially more *and* no new jobs will be created in the USA.

Or if they can’t comprehend basic economics, ask them why Wal-mart abandoned its former policy of only selling products made in America. The main reasons: (1) many products were no longer being made in the USA and (2) those that were made in the USA were more expensive, and weren’t selling.

This argument is true as a generality only. While on the surface it would appear that companies would not abandon their lower cost offshore facilities it should also be noted that these same companies would convert to domestic manufacturing if it meets their cost targets.

Recent studies have indicated that the ability to create products in the USA as compared to offshore manufacturing has actually decreased. In some economic areas such as the Carolinas the cost difference is very small. Sounds good however when you look at the details you find that the USA based jobs that would be created IF a factory were relocated back to the USA would only pay minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage to remain competitive. Given that a good portion of the factory’s productive capacity is reliant upon specialized machinery and/or robots there is no reason to pay a high wage similar to the old UAW wages from decades ago. Wages are also depressed because of a scarcity of other high paying jobs in the area. And this does not even take into consideration the reliance on just-in-time component sourcing that is absolutely critical to maintain lower costs.

If we see another large spike in oil prices for a sustained period then you might see some companies start actively looking into moving plants back to the USA. However, as pointed out above, there are no high paying jobs coming back with the factories.

Your point about companies just raising prices to compensate for the Trump tax is absolutely correct in the short run. Not sure right now how long they would be able to pass along those higher prices.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 9, 2017 • 3:52:52pm

re: #152 lawhawk

After all, the reason that this is coming up is because the pharmaceuticals are not producing the meds used in lethal injections. Or making them available to the states for this purpose.

The first drug in the three-drug cocktail is a potent barbituate-I’m quite frankly surprised that they didn’t switch out that and use propofol as the first drug.


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