Trump Horror, Day 20: Kellyanne Conway Blatantly Violates Key Ethics Rule

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Uh oh. Here we are, not even a month into the Trump Horror, and his chief counselor Kellyanne Conway has already violated one of the most important rules of the Office of Government Ethics, by blatantly hyping Ivanka Trump’s line of merchandise on Fox News.

Federal employees are banned from using their public office to endorse products, regulations state.

Conway, speaking to “Fox & Friends” viewers from the White House briefing room, was responding to boycotts of Ivanka Trump merchandise and Nordstrom’s discontinuation of stocking her clothing and shoe lines, which the retailer said was in response to low sales and which the president assailed as unfair.

“I’m going to give it a free commercial here,” Conway said of the president’s daughter’s merchandise brand. “Go buy it today.”

UPDATE at 2/9/17 11:41:58 am by Charles Johnson
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:05am

This was just her as a friend talking to some friends at Fox and Friends….///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:17:34am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:18:21am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:18:48am
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electrotek  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:19:39am

Repost from downstairs:

Read all of the responses from Japanese students studying in U.S. about Trump and the future of the world:

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:20:19am

How will Bannon/Trump respond? How about take the OGE website offline.

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Yeah, that’ll do.

Every aspect of this regime is corrupt to the core. The GOP doesn’t care, because they’re ticking off every item on their wish list to return the nation to the 50s. Whether it’s the 1950s or the 1750s, who knows. And at the rate they’re going, the Romans might be too enlightened for them too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:21:31am

Here is Wonkette telling you what cheap, ugly crap the Ivanka Trump collection is==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:22:34am

I mean seriously who would even wear that horrible shit to a garbage fire?

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bratwurst  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:22:56am

Normal people working for normal administrations don’t last very long in the role of press secretary.

How long can Spicer go on having a daily tantrum like this?

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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:23:20am

Might as well repost this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:24:00am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:25:11am

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:25:22am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:25:22am
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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:26:58am

I made a better one

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:27:09am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:27:16am

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:27:28am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

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weave  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:28:44am

$20 Billion of Boeing Business Potentially at Risk From Trump

Looks like Trump is doing everything he can to ratfuck Boeing out of business. :-(

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:29:33am

re: #16 Dr. Matt

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Defending the AFC. May as well start defending the Dearborn Independent and Henry Ford with that shit. Listen, I understand why people were reluctant to go to war in 1939-41 but AFC was awful. And Lindburgh destroyed his reputation by parroting Antisemitic propaganda.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:29:38am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

Considering that the Trump tax plan has essentially turned into a House GOP tax plan since the election (moving towards similar rates, adjustments, etc.), that the Congress doesn’t know what the heck Trump’s talking about again shows he doesn’t know or care about process, or coordination with the other branches of government.

Policy by diktat is what he does. That’s not how government works, and with good reason.

But even if he were to announce the GOP tax plan, it’s still a giveaway to the rich and shifts the burdens to everyone else. Rich see huge tax breaks (even bigger once you factor in the estate tax repeal) and everyone else pays for it in the form of reduced services, worse infrastructure, and gutting the safety net.

It’s the quadrifecta of Ayn Rand fuck you I got mine conservative BS. And all those people who think that they’re going to benefit from Trump will find themselves screwed again. And again.

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DuckDharma  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:29:51am

Sean Sphincter got pounded pretty hard today. More reporters following up on each other’s questions. More of this, please

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nines09  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:30:52am

Kellyanne is a 24 hour a day commercial for Trump Inc, and we pay her salary. Ethics? I thought the GOP outlawed that bit of impediment to their looting.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:31:03am
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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:31:03am
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Just as well. Boris and The Yam together would have created a bad hair singularity strong enough to swallow this quadrant of the galaxy.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:31:31am

re: #19 weave

And how many jobs would that ultimately kill here because of direct/indirect jobs all through the supply chain.

My guess - a whole lot more than a paltry couple hundred jobs saved at Carrier.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:31:44am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:33:01am
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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:33:32am

Can anyone envision anything that will stop this level of corruption from the White House?

I’m afraid I can’t see anything to stop it at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:34:37am

re: #29 makeitstop

Can anyone envision anything that will stop this level of corruption from the White House?

I’m afraid I can’t see anything to stop it at this point.

Not with the GOP continue to enable him. It’s going to get worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:35:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:36:28am
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AGE1607  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:36:51am

IIRC most of Ivanka Trump’s line is made in China and the President is against importing anything from China.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:37:10am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:37:36am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Not with the GOP continue to enable him. It’s going to get worse.

and the Deplorables will continue to cheer it on. There’s nothing they won’t oppose.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:38:06am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

SPICER: “Kellyanne has been counseled. She’s been counseled.”

That sounds eerily close to what people in the Duggar camp said after Josh got nailed for perving on his sisters.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:38:58am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicer on Conway pitching Ivanka products on Fox: “Kellyanne has been counseled on that subject.”

— Jim Acosta

Conway has been counseled to threaten more companies unless they carry Ivanka’s stuff.

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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:39:32am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:39:37am

re: #35 Sir John Barron

and the Deplorables will continue to cheer it on. There’s nothing they won’t oppose.

And meanwhile we get bitched at for daring to call it aout.

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nines09  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:39:44am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:39:55am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:39:56am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

is anyone counseling the counselor-in-chief?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:41:57am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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petesh  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:42:05am

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

I mean seriously who would even wear that horrible shit to a garbage fire?

[Waves hand furiously in air] I know the answer to this one! Kellyanne Conway!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:42:05am
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:42:07am
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And even Gorsuch, Blumenthal, and Gorsuch’s press people all said that he said those very things.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:43:17am

re: #44 petesh

[Waves hand furiously in air] I know the answer to this one! Kellyanne Conway!

Not only would she wear that shit to a garbage fire, but she is a garbage fire!

IVANKA TRUMP COLLECTION: Official Fashion Designer for the Garbage Fire Olympics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:43:21am

uh huh…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:43:51am
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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:44:03am

re: #29 makeitstop

Can anyone envision anything that will stop this level of corruption from the White House?

I’m afraid I can’t see anything to stop it at this point.

It’s going to take Trump turning on a Republican (donor) in some major way. Once that happens, and the Congressional GOP realizes that it can’t ride the alligator, then, maybe, the move for impeachment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:46:03am

re: #50 KGxvi

It’s going to take Trump turning on a Republican (donor) in some major way. Once that happens, and the Congressional GOP realizes that it can’t ride the alligator, then, maybe, the move for impeachment.

I don’t see it happening; it would enrage the Base that they need to get elected. Trump is safe as long as he is more popular with GOP voters than Congress is, and Congress is deeply unpopular.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:46:05am
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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:46:51am

re: #46 lawhawk

I have a feeling we are going to see a lot more Daily Showesque chyrons on the “straight” news channels in the next 6-18 months (still feel confident saying the over/under is 2 years on a Trump presidency).

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:47:03am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

Pocket kitty is so adorable.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:47:42am

Oh hey, who wants to go shopping? :)

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:48:51am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Yeah right. Just a simple tap on the wrist and saying, “now now Kellyanne, don’t do that in public again…”

Chaffetz is as phony as a $4 bill.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:49:06am

re: #56 Interesting Times

me me. If I win I will spend it this weekend at Nordstrom’s in King of Prussia. Cool

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bratwurst  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:49:10am

Classy…but remember: they are VERY pro-Israel!

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:49:36am

re: #52 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t see it happening; it would enrage the Base that they need to get elected. Trump is safe as long as he is more popular with GOP voters than Congress is, and Congress is deeply unpopular.

You know what, though, given McConnell’s actions lately… I’m not entirely sure they want to be in the majority, at least with a Republican president. It’s easy and kind of fun to be the majority when the other party holds the White House, but now they’re actually responsible for shit. They have nobody to blame but themselves if things go to shit. Maybe they wouldn’t really mind losing 3-4 seats in the Senate?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:50:35am

re: #59 bratwurst

Classy…but remember: they are VERY pro-Israel!

Now all we need is another College Republican Affirmative Action Bake Sale. Those are always so fun and informative.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:50:47am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh huh…..

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Hahahhaha Sean. That’s funny considering your boss doesn’t even pay taxes. Good one. I look forward to seeing Melissa play oyu again.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:51:12am

re: #53 Myron Falwell

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:51:17am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:52:12am

re: #59 bratwurst

Classy…but remember: they are VERY pro-Israel!

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I miss the good old days when they were just stuffy dicks in ties who had affirmative action bake sales.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:52:17am
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:52:21am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:52:45am

re: #61 Sir John Barron

Now all we need is another College Republican Affirmative Action Bake Sale. Those are always so fun and informative.

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The bake sales while stupid pale in comparison to this crap.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:53:11am

The GOP, which has no problem wrapping itself in the flag, using servicemembers as props, and thinks they’re the patriotic ones, all while standing in front of Confederate flags (on purpose), continues to show that they are heartless and spineless bastards who don’t care about anyone but their own craven agenda, the consequences be damned.

Trump’s Muslim ban continues ensnaring US citizens, despite claims that it doesn’t do anything of the sort. This is yet more evidence that this is unconstitutional as applied.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:54:12am

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:54:16am

re: #60 KGxvi

You know what, though, given McConnell’s actions lately… I’m not entirely sure they want to be in the majority, at least with a Republican president. It’s easy and kind of fun to be the majority when the other party holds the White House, but now they’re actually responsible for shit. They have nobody to blame but themselves if things go to shit. Maybe they wouldn’t really mind losing 3-4 seats in the Senate?

But in the meantime they can give the donor class some sweet tax cuts, and make it easier for them to rip consumers off and poison our air and water.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:54:41am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:54:51am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:55:09am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:55:47am

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:57:00am
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Joe Bacon  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:57:31am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Mr. Blackwell turns in his grave!!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:57:50am

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

Lone wolves.

Much more likely? They’re probably sovereign citizens who were hoping to go out in a blaze of glory.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:57:59am

re: #72 Kragar

Bouie’s been on this guy’s case all day, and I can see why. It’s like he’s missed the entire last year or so somehow.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:58:05am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

The bake sales while stupid pale in comparison to this crap.

Well they needed another attention getter.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:58:33am

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

Clearly they were paid either by BLM or ISIS as a false flag.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:59:11am
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.@PressSec’s heated exchange with reporter on Trump not tweeting about Quebec mosque attack. “This is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:59:27am

re: #80 Sir John Barron

Well they needed another attention getter.

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Guess so.

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petesh  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:59:29am

re: #67 Kragar

On today’s EOs: Symbolism is certainly important but the little I have seen about them suggests that they are just basically the same old shit (the killing of cops stops right now, because I say so!) with nothing particularly new about them. It would not surprise me if I were missing something — but what? All info gladly received.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:59:47am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:59:53am

re: #72 Kragar

I can’t tell who Chris is from work, but, if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that all Trump was selling was fear. But it had everything to do with skin color.

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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:00:40pm
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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:01:46pm

Oh look, guess who crawled out to show he’s still worthy of his name (see google for why)

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:02:16pm

re: #79 Citizen K

Bouie’s been on this guy’s case all day, and I can see why. It’s like he’s missed the entire last year or so somehow.

Sarah Kenzidor needs to meet this guy and knock some goddam sense into him.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:03:11pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Oh look, guess who crawled out to show he’s still worthy of his name (see google for why)

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:03:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:05:04pm

heh. made it private so y’all can refresh to hide it again.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:05:58pm

These were the 3 EOs Kragar noted up thread:

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:07:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:08:03pm
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Sean Spicer literally becomes @melissamccarthy during today’s White House briefing.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:08:11pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

::: running for the brain bleach ::::

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:09:13pm

re: #93 lawhawk

These were the 3 EOs Kragar noted up thread:

DT doesn’t care much that he has a congress controlled by his party, which could pass legislation that could in theory involve debate on things like this, with greater transparency and all like that.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:09:40pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart

Can we get companies to advertise that they don’t carry items with the Trump name attached?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:11:14pm
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KILLEEN, Texas (AP) — They say everything is bigger in Texas. It’s now safe to say that applies to bail.

Bell County Justice of the Peace Claudia Brown set Antonio Marquis Willis’ bond last week at a whopping $4 billion in the Dec. 22 killing of another man at a home in Killeen, about 55 miles north of Austin.

County sheriff’s Deputy Chief Chuck Cox said he’s never heard of such a high bond, the Temple Daily Telegram reported (bit.ly ). The highest amount he had previously seen was $1 million.

Willis’ lawyer, Billy Ray Hall Jr., said he’s confident the amount will be lowered when Hall makes the request to a state district judge. Hall said he wasn’t certain it would be lowered to the point where Willis could afford to post the amount and leave jail until his next court hearing.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:11:44pm

re: #89 Myron Falwell

Sarah Kenzidor needs to meet this guy and knock some goddam sense into him.

Maybe, but he’s right that liberals* take for granted certain things that turn out to be not true. People want to work, to have a decent life, and Trump could at least offer that illusion. It’s counterintuitive, but I agree with him that numbers of minorities supporting Trump could even grow.

*ETA: or at least, I do.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:12:11pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Oh look, guess who crawled out to show he’s still worthy of his name (see google for why)

That’s some mighty weapon-grade derp.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:13:24pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Oh look, guess who crawled out to show he’s still worthy of his name (see google for why)

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:15:35pm

re: #93 lawhawk

I said it elsewhere, but the language he used makes it sound like he’s taking after Duterete’s gameplan now. Which means we can expect literal blood in the streets soon.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:17:48pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:18:13pm
So as I sat on the police bus with my hands cuffed behind my back, in the dark, I was not at all afraid.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:18:24pm

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

Maybe, but he’s right that liberals* take for granted certain things that turn out to be not true. People want to work, to have a decent life, and Trump could at least offer that illusion. It’s counterintuitive, but I agree with him that numbers of minorities supporting Trump could even grow.

*ETA: or at least, I do.

Except I’m pretty sure that this part, quote:

You cannot win elections without giving working class voters reason to vote other than fear. Regardless of their race/gender

…is almost exactly what Trump did to win over the vaunted ‘White Working Class’ to the point we had hagiographies of this group the month after the election . He literally told them ‘EVERYTHING IS HELL AND ONLY I AM BRILLIANT ENOUGH TO FIX THIS, IN ALL MY GODHOOD’

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:21:08pm

re: #105 Kragar

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Atlanta, Orlando. Same diff.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:22:54pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Atlanta, Orlando. Same diff.

They are actually pretty similar by word-shape. Maybe he has horrible vision, or brain damage.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:22:55pm

re: #107 Citizen K

Except I’m pretty sure that this part, quote:

…is almost exactly what Trump did to win over the vaunted ‘White Working Class’ to the point we had hagiographies of this group the month after the election . He literally told them ‘EVERYTHING IS HELL AND ONLY I AM BRILLIANT ENOUGH TO FIX THIS, IN ALL MY GODHOOD’

I don’t disagree. Nor would he, from what I could tell by reading his posts. I think Democrats have assumed that people would understand why things like ACA, raising the minimum wage, workplace protections, etc. would be good for them (or even TPP, which may have been an improvement over anything Trump will have to offer). We just haven’t done a good job of going to the places—now I’m getting into anymouse territory—where people can make those connections. I know that racism is a part of it, but it’s not all of it. We’re losing at the local level, and that’s the real scary thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:23:15pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Atlanta, Orlando. Same diff.

they both begin and end with a vowel

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:23:21pm

There is even an audio version available —

Indivisible-A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:23:23pm

re: #109 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

They are actually pretty similar by word-shape. Maybe he has horrible vision, or brain damage.

He works for Trump. It’s a given. He has one of the two.

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reidr  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:23:41pm

These clowns have no idea of what’s right vs. what’s wrong… and they don’t care. They’re five year olds in adult bodies. A lot of spankings and time-outs are called for here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:24:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:24:34pm

re: #110 Barefoot Grin

I don’t disagree. Nor would he, from what I could tell by reading his posts. I think Democrats have assumed that people would understand why things like ACA, raising the minimum wage, workplace protections, etc. would be good for them (or even TPP, which may have been an improvement over anything Trump will have to offer). We just haven’t done a good job of going to the places—now I’m getting into anymouse territory—where people can make those connections. I know that racism is a part of it, but it’s not all of it. We’re losing at the local level, and that’s the real scary thing.

We have to find a way to talk our issues in soundbite form. Anyhow, we’ll see what happens. The losing on a local level is troubling though.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:24:53pm

re: #109 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Maybe he has horrible vision, or brain damage.

I’m starting to think that’s a prerequisite for working in this administration.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:25:01pm

re: #112 Birth Control Works

There is even an audio version available —

Indivisible-A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda

here is the video:

Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda • BRAVE NEW FILMS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:25:03pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:25:41pm

re: #107 Citizen K

Except I’m pretty sure that this part, quote:

…is almost exactly what Trump did to win over the vaunted ‘White Working Class’ to the point we had hagiographies of this group the month after the election . He literally told them ‘EVERYTHING IS HELL AND ONLY I AM BRILLIANT ENOUGH TO FIX THIS, IN ALL MY GODHOOD’

No — that’s not the only thing he did. He spoke sympathetically to the WWC of their loss in jobs and promised that he would fix it and get their jobs back. On Bill Maher, Toni Lahren repeated how Trump was going to bring back the coal miner jobs. That’s what they want to hear — not the truth — but a fable. And when Trump fails to do this, he will figure out a way to blame others.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:27:34pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

No — that’s not the only thing he did. He spoke sympathetically to the WWC of their loss in jobs and promised that he would fix it and get their jobs back. On Bill Maher, Toni Lahren repeated how Trump was going to bring back the coal miner jobs. That’s what they want to hear — not the truth — but a fable. And when Trump fails to do this, he will figure out a way to blame others.

As was stated in the King tweet about responding to Trump someone posted in the last thread, it’s important to attach any and all failures not to Trump specifically but to Republicans as a group. They must be made to own him at every turn.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:28:25pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reptiles tend to come in various color “morphs.” Orange alligator births might not even be extremely rare, but most may be eaten or have prey escape too often because they can’t hide as well.

I used to breed beautiful snakes that would have a very hard time in the wild because of their unusual colors and patterns.

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“…The Senate is on track to confirm Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) as Health and Human Services secretary early Friday morning, and he is poised to hit the ground running…”

“…Price would replace the law with a plan that does more to benefit the young, healthy, and rich — and disadvantages the sick, old, and poor. His plan also provides significantly less help to those with preexisting conditions than other Republican proposals…”

“…The biggest cut to the poor in Price’s plan is the full repeal of the Affordable Care Act’s Medicaid expansion, a program that currently covers millions of low-income Americans. Price’s plan replaces it with, well, nothing…”

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Franklin  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:31:06pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart

All low-income Americans will get a year’s supply of boot-straps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:32:27pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:33:39pm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:33:53pm

Honestly as someone who has had miners in his family, I don’t want the mines back. I want new energies. Those damn mines made my mom’s grandfathers and uncles live much shorter lives than they would have otherwise. The problem is when we start talking about green energy to many of these working class folks, they turn it off because a lot of them just see it as hippie bullshit.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:34:29pm

And of course, yet again, the moment I step out of a bubble, all I fucking fucking fucking hear is how if only that bitch Hillary didn’t ruin it for everyone or how come no one is holding the left and Democrats for all the unprecedented superthuggery they committed unlike the sainted holy genteel Right and Berniacs and fucking wonder how hopeless this country really is.

Because despite having to convince myself that there’s a movement happening, I keep getting all these fucking reminders that we may be more alone than we wished and that the country really does fucking love this if only because it gets to kick us in the teeth repeatedly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:34:42pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:36:05pm

re: #124 Franklin

All low-income Americans will get a year’s supply of boot-straps.

And a bucket of leaches.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:36:10pm

re: #129 Citizen K

And of course, yet again, the moment I step out of a bubble, all I fucking fucking fucking here is how if only that bitch Hillary didn’t ruin it for everyone or [wingntu]how come no one is holding the left and Democrats for all the unprecedented superthuggery they committed unlike the sainted holy genteel Right and Berniacs[/wingnut] and fucking wonder how hopeless this country really is.

Because despite having to convince myself that there’s a movement happening, I keep getting all these fucking reminders that we may be more alone than we wished and that the country really does fucking love this if only because it gets to kick us in the teeth repeatedly.

What I’m tired of are lectures about free speech from people who literally want to be able to run over protesters if they feel they’re in their way. But yeah go ahead and lecture me some because I think it’s okay to call out bigoted pieces of shit.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:38:02pm

watch the video:

Reagan on separation of church and state.

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:38:59pm

re: #110 Barefoot Grin

I don’t disagree. Nor would he, from what I could tell by reading his posts. I think Democrats have assumed that people would understand why things like ACA, raising the minimum wage, workplace protections, etc. would be good for them (or even TPP, which may have been an improvement over anything Trump will have to offer). We just haven’t done a good job of going to the places—now I’m getting into anymouse territory—where people can make those connections. I know that racism is a part of it, but it’s not all of it. We’re losing at the local level, and that’s the real scary thing.

I didn’t see you drive by my territory. (::

Poll in today’s paper for tomorrow: Is Donald Trump treating the press unfairly (overwhelming majority of those polled say no).

Since all they get are a newspaper, hate Christian radio and FOX News here telling them that he is, well, if no one comes into the area to counter the message then I guess you’ll have a lot of people believing the propaganda.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:39:02pm

re: #124 Franklin

All low-income Americans will get a year’s supply of boot-straps.

That would cost taxpayers too much. The poor will be given pointy sticks so that they can kill and skin animals to make leather bootstraps for themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:39:18pm

re: #133 Birth Control Works

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:39:28pm

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:43:50pm
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scottslemmons  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:44:38pm

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Tangent: I really wish Steve Jackson Games would revive their Illuminati card game. The country is at least as paranoid and crazy as they were during the Clinton years.

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:45:04pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

We have to find a way to talk our issues in soundbite form. Anyhow, we’ll see what happens. The losing on a local level is troubling though.

Republicans want to starve your children. (food stamps, school lunches)
They want to kill your grandmother (ACA)
They want to poison your dog (abolish the USDA)
They want to poison you (abolish the FDA)
They want you to die in a fiery plane wreck (freeze on hiring at the FDA of inspectors)
They want your veterans to die (privatise the VA)
They send your sons and daughters on worthless suicide missions (military)
They want you to pay their taxes (redistribution to the 1%)

Sound bites by their nature have to be over-the-top. Like Pres. Johnson and his pig-copulating quip, you have to get the GOP to get in there and deny those things.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Hillary Clinton had detailed plans for all those things. The GOP had “Benghazi, E-mail, Clinton crime family.”

Unless and until the Democrats are willing to play by the same rules the Republicans are, they will lose, because they are explaining.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:45:13pm

re: #140 Kragar

looking forward to Melissa McCarthy’s skit being a weekly performance, much like the SNL News Cast.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:46:16pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

Abruptly leaves… that means unscheduled. Fired or quit.

Considering that there’s sufficient evidence Trump continues to tweet from an unsecured smartphone, the security of communications and devices in the WH has gone from bad to worse, but you know what…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:46:41pm

re: #144 Anymouse

Republicans want to starve your children. (food stamps, school lunches)
They want to kill your grandmother (ACA)
They want to poison your dog (abolish the USDA)
They want to poison you (abolish the FDA)
They want you to die in a fiery plane wreck (freeze on hiring at the FDA of inspectors)
They want your veterans to die (privatise the VA)
They send your sons and daughters on worthless suicide missions (military)
They want you to pay their taxes (redistribution to the 1%)

Sound bites by their nature have to be over-the-top. Like Pres. Johnson and his pig-copulating quip, you have to get the GOP to get in there and deny those things.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Hillary Clinton had detailed plans for all those things. The GOP had “Benghazi, E-mail, Clinton crime family.”

Unless and until the Democrats are willing to play by the same rules the Republicans are, they will lose, because they are explaining.

Sounds simple enough. You meant the FAA by the way. It just sucks that soundbite politics like MAGA work better than “We’re all ready a fine nation but we can and should be better.”

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:47:18pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Up ding for the Beowulf reference. :)

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:47:48pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:48:14pm

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have we seen this before?

If Obama had pulled a stunt like this, openly stating he’d destroy a politician’s career to aid a sheriff, the GOP would be drawing up articles of impeachment for conspiracy.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:48:14pm

re: #144 Anymouse

Republicans want to starve your children. (food stamps, school lunches)
They want to kill your grandmother (ACA)
They want to poison your dog (abolish the USDA)
They want to poison you (abolish the FDA)
They want you to die in a fiery plane wreck (freeze on hiring at the FDA of inspectors)
They want your veterans to die (privatise the VA)
They send your sons and daughters on worthless suicide missions (military)
They want you to pay their taxes (redistribution to the 1%)

Sound bites by their nature have to be over-the-top. Like Pres. Johnson and his pig-copulating quip, you have to get the GOP to get in there and deny those things.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Hillary Clinton had detailed plans for all those things. The GOP had “Benghazi, E-mail, Clinton crime family.”

Unless and until the Democrats are willing to play by the same rules the Republicans are, they will lose, because they are explaining.

Think you mean FAA or NTSB

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:51:33pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Sounds simple enough. You meant the FAA by the way. It just sucks that soundbite politics like MAGA work better than “We’re all ready a fine nation but we can and should be better.”

I did mean the FDA. Maybe they want to kill you in a fiery plane wreck by not inspecting your food (meta).

The overwhelming majority of voters do not play inside baseball in politics.

If a voter asks “why do you think they are trying to kill grandma” then explain why (and still keep it simple).

The GOP will stick with the bumper sticker politics because they work.

The deliverer today asked me why I have a sticker on my window that says “I sit with John Lewis.” That gave me an opening to explain what John Lewis was doing on the House floor and at airport customs.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:51:33pm

Trump thinks airlines pay too many fees and are over regulated.

Seriously. Does he not realize that a significant portion of the taxes paid goes to fund the FAA which keeps the ATC going (and is still under-funded and behind in getting NEXGEN radar/ATC going nationally, which would significantly reduce delays/congestion at airports).

It also makes sure airlines are adhering to scheduled maintenance, not cutting corners, and otherwise putting lives in danger all for the sake of profit.

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Jack Burton  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:51:46pm

re: #140 Kragar

Part of the reason (among all the asinine, crazy, bigoted bullshit) that the Alex Jones minions are so pro-Trump, is that they think he’s the first real outsider that has been able to “sneak into power” and that he hasn’t been tainted by the “Illuminati”, because he wasn’t in Skull & Bones, wasn’t a member of the CFR, etc. Seriously, they think a billionaire with connections to Putin and the Saudi’s among other things isn’t part of the “Elite”.

This kook didn’t get the memo.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:51:52pm
A Christian would never say ‘you will pay for that.’ Never.

—Pope Francis

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:53:14pm

re: #147 lawhawk

so saving that one too!

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:53:50pm

re: #149 PhillyPretzel

Up ding for the Beowulf reference. :)

beowulf -bleeh ga!

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:54:01pm

re: #144 Anymouse

Republicans want to starve your children. (food stamps, school lunches)
They want to kill your grandmother (ACA)
They want to poison your dog (abolish the USDA)
They want to poison you (abolish the FDA)
They want you to die in a fiery plane wreck (freeze on hiring at the FDA of inspectors)
They want your veterans to die (privatise the VA)
They send your sons and daughters on worthless suicide missions (military)
They want you to pay their taxes (redistribution to the 1%)

Sound bites by their nature have to be over-the-top. Like Pres. Johnson and his pig-copulating quip, you have to get the GOP to get in there and deny those things.

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Hillary Clinton had detailed plans for all those things. The GOP had “Benghazi, E-mail, Clinton crime family.”

Unless and until the Democrats are willing to play by the same rules the Republicans are, they will lose, because they are explaining.

The adage about arguing with idiots comes to mind. The GOP are experts at playing to the lowest common denominator, they don’t just start with “ZOMG, they’re destroying the country!!!,” but then follow it up with “Vote for me because I’ll promise you a lot of shit that will never happen!” The difference is when Democrats make promises, the media and the people hold them to those promises and punish them when they fail to see them through. The GOP? “Oh, it was all those Democrats faults, they got in the way of ‘the will of the people!’”

If we get into a shouting match over who is doing the worst damage to America, the GOP is gonna win because they’ve been beating that drum so long they can give Neal Peart a run for his money.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:56:05pm

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:56:37pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

The adage about arguing with idiots comes to mind. The GOP are experts at playing to the lowest common denominator, they don’t just start with “ZOMG, they’re destroying the country!!!,” but then follow it up with “Vote for me because I’ll promise you a lot of shit that will never happen!” The difference is when Democrats make promises, the media and the people hold them to those promises and punish them when they fail to see them through. The GOP? “Oh, it was all those Democrats faults, they got in the way of ‘the will of the people!’”

If we get into a shouting match over who is doing the worst damage to America, the GOP is gonna win because they’ve been beating that drum so long they can give Neal Peart a run for his money.

We’ve had good bumper sticker slogans too (sloganeering has long been a part of American politics):

Yes We Can
A Chicken in Every Pot
Ask What You Can Do for Your Country
&c.

Slogans don’t all have to be negative. I just went over the top (but not much) on purpose.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:56:52pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:57:48pm

re: #164 Anymouse

how about a plain: FUCK YOU! ?

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:58:28pm

re: #161 Birth Control Works

So much for Twitter’s promise to kick the Nazis and white supremacists off Twitter. Mr. Johnson noted Twitter said they would the other day, I said “don’t hold your breath.”

Twitter will never do it as long as there’s money in it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:58:34pm

re: #157 Birth Control Works

—Pope Francis

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Francis is like a reverse Pope Pius XIII. Conservative Catholic insiders want him out.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:58:46pm

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Back when I worked for the armored car company, ca. 1977, one of our stops was an area sheriff’s office, where we picked up cash from bail money, fees, fines, etc. The daily take was usually in the low tens of thousands. One day, though, they had over a million twenty-two thousand dollars in cash for us. There was a small bag with the usual loot, then a big one full of bundled hundreds. They explained that a local wheel had been arrested for murdering his wife, the judge had set bail at a million dollars and insisted on cash, and the guy had actually produced it. Getting a million in cash from your bank is no simple task, especially if you can’t make arrangements in person, but it can be done for important customers.

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:59:20pm

re: #166 Birth Control Works

how about a plain: FUCK YOU! ?

That might not be strong enough. /s

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 12:59:47pm

re: #168 Big Beautiful Door

Francis is like a reverse Pope Pius XIII. Conservative Catholic insiders want him out.

npr.org

I SAW Something the other day about the Knights of Malta opposing him as well.

The future could hold such promise, but I’m afraid those who want war will have it.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:00:18pm

re: #171 Anymouse

That might not be strong enough. /s

That shit-gibbon statement from the politician I quoted above?

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:01:01pm

re: #173 Birth Control Works

That shit-gibbon statement from the politician I quoted above?

I thought you were suggesting that as a campaign slogan.

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EPR-radar  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:01:06pm

re: #129 Citizen K

And of course, yet again, the moment I step out of a bubble, all I fucking fucking fucking hear is how if only that bitch Hillary didn’t ruin it for everyone or how come no one is holding the left and Democrats for all the unprecedented superthuggery they committed unlike the sainted holy genteel Right and Berniacs and fucking wonder how hopeless this country really is.

Because despite having to convince myself that there’s a movement happening, I keep getting all these fucking reminders that we may be more alone than we wished and that the country really does fucking love this if only because it gets to kick us in the teeth repeatedly.

I’ve known for a long time that the Nazis were a popular political movement in Wiemar Germany before they seized absolute power.

Now I really appreciate what that popularity meant — that a substantial fraction of the citizens in a democracy can very easily vote for evil.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:01:20pm

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:02:55pm

Charles Johnson
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And I’ll never understand why Twitter thinks he should be able to spread his hatred on their network. @soledadobrien
7:35 PM - 8 Feb 2017

Because he makes them more money than Soledad O’Brien or you.

“It might not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS Twitter.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:03:52pm

re: #175 EPR-radar

I’ve known for a long time that the Nazis were a popular political movement in Wiemar Germany before they seized absolute power.

Now I really appreciate what that popularity meant — that a substantial fraction of the citizens in a democracy can very easily vote for evil.

There is a nineteenth century principle “Bad money drives out good”. I fear that the real problem is that “Bad ideas drive out good”.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:03:57pm

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:05:37pm

Well, i am comforted by the fact that in the end, if there ever is one, Mother Nature will win.

She always does.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:06:05pm

re: #164 Anymouse

We’ve had good bumper sticker slogans too (sloganeering has long been a part of American politics):

Yes We Can
A Chicken in Every Pot
Ask What You Can Do for Your Country
&c.

Slogans don’t all have to be negative. I just went over the top (but not much) on purpose.

Bumper sticker slogans work awesome for the GOP because they’re simple-minded, meant to evoke emotion in the person hearing them. “Yeah, I want America to be great again!” If you have to think about it, chances are it’s not gonna stick with you. So when people heard “I’m With Her,” the emotional connection worked for Democrats who already supported Hillary. For everybody else, at best it evoked either negative memories of the GOP’s witch hunts against her or their own negative emotions over Bernie’s loss.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:07:37pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

There is a nineteenth century principle “Bad money drives out good”. I fear that the real problem is that “Bad ideas drive out good”.

Something to do with the lowest common denominator …

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:07:59pm

Seen on Facebook:

Click to Reveal

There’s nothing more #cuck than smiling and cheering as a man fucks your country.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:08:48pm

re: #187 Anymouse

the scope/lens pictured is to see the target —yes?

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nines09  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:09:32pm

re: #191 Birth Control Works

the scope/lens pictured is to see the target —yes?

Range. Distance.

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:09:57pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

Bumper sticker slogans work awesome for the GOP because they’re simple-minded, meant to evoke emotion in the person hearing them. “Yeah, I want America to be great again!” If you have to think about it, chances are it’s not gonna stick with you. So when people heard “I’m With Her,” the emotional connection worked for Democrats who already supported Hillary. For everybody else, at best it evoked either negative memories of the GOP’s witch hunts against her or their own negative emotions over Bernie’s loss.

I didn’t much care for the “I’m With Her” slogan: It sounded too cultish to me (never mind Trump has an actual cult). Not all slogans work.

The idea of a slogan is its supposed to make you ask further questions or think about what the slogan means. “I’m With Her” didn’t even offer the potential of “Yes We Can”: It is simply a declarative statement. “Well, I’m Not” is the counter, and that’s that.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:11:18pm

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:11:33pm

Well, I guess I liked that tweet so much I put it up twice.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:12:08pm
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thecommodore  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:13:07pm

The above is a chart of Trump’s approval rating with less smoothing, and the ridiculous Rassmussen taken out (they show Trump with approvals north of 50%!!). With this adjustment, Trump’s approval sits at 43.3%, which is a shade worse than mediocre (Obama spent a good deal of time during his presidency in the low 40’s), but considering what a hot mess of a human being Trump is - let alone a president - it’s disturbing to me that his approvals are north of 4.3%.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:14:29pm

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Your gator is rusting.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:14:44pm

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Another set of Republicans hoping Democrats will protect them from their own stupidity.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:16:55pm

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Transparency. Liberty. Don’t Tread on Me.

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calochortus  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:17:05pm

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Sigh. I can’t get over the number of people who supported Trump because he said he’d do X and Y, and now they’re surprised he’s doing Y and not just X. (Assuming he gets around to doing X.)

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:18:50pm

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Yup. I wrote to my paper when the bill was first filed about killing people in secrecy. They didn’t run my letter.

No one sells sodium thiopental in the USA any more: the company that made it didn’t want to be known as Dr. Death.

The secrecy bill is not about that though: It’s about being to use any ol’ thing and you won’t know (and can’t find out) what they did.

It is regrettable the voters voted to overturn the repeal of the death penalty by referendum.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:27:06pm

You’ve all heard of The Family —right?

Donald Trump, American Preacher April 12, 2016 -Jeff Sharlet

yes, another shameless Pages Promotion

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:38:04pm

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2017 • 1:38:13pm

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Pocket full o’ Kitty.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 9, 2017 • 2:28:42pm

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I heard that Santorum’s religion encourages him to lie to unbelievers.


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