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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:39:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:41:46pm
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retired cynic  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:42:14pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Maybe they can’t get him on the Logan Act, but there is always the good old standby, perjury.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:44:44pm

It’s just so glorious to see Chaffetz cut and run from the crowd the same way the Frankenstein Monster ran from the angry torch mob!

What a whore!
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:49:33pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Not sure that makes me feel at ease. IMO Pence is more dangerous because he knows what he’s doing.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:53:56pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Pretty much any other President other than Trump I would agree with you, but there is such a bunker mentality with Republicans in Congress nowadays that unless they see their own political futures in imminent danger, I can’t see them voting to impeach. Trump’s financial dealings (see undisclosed tax returns, hidden foreign investments, TrumpU fraud and related bribery) alone would have sunk any other officeholder - including Republicans, but all have been totally ignored.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:55:10pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:56:10pm

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Not sure that makes me feel at ease. IMO Pence is more dangerous because he knows what he’s doing.

Unless they all go down in a blaze of glory.

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retired cynic  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:57:08pm

re: #8 Myron Falwell

Unless they all go down in a blaze of glory.

I could enjoy that.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 9, 2017 • 8:58:29pm

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Not sure that makes me feel at ease. IMO Pence is more dangerous because he knows what he’s doing.

And even though Pence is a religious nutcase whose political worldview of the US being a Christian theocracy is chilling, he (as least so far as we can tell) hasn’t overtly broken any laws, unlike the donald.

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retired cynic  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:00:06pm

re: #10 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

And even though Pence is a religious nutcase whose political worldview of the US being a Christian theocracy is chilling, he (as least so far as we can tell) hasn’t overtly broken any laws, unlike the donald.

I prefer to have the malignant sociopath, or whatever he is, out of office, and hopefully in a padded cell.

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:02:42pm

Thank you for the Jackson Browne, Charles. He’s the best, and my very favorite (and I know Stanley Sea agrees.)

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:03:37pm

re: #10 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

And even though Pence is a religious nutcase whose political worldview of the US being a Christian theocracy is chilling, he (as least so far as we can tell) hasn’t overtly broken any laws, unlike the donald.

At what point do Pence, Ryan and McConnell et. al, become treated as accessories to the crime?

They knew and did nothing simply because he had a R next to his name. Not to mention that he promised them the moon and stars.

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electrotek  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:05:14pm

Oh the irony:

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:07:13pm

re: #10 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

And even though Pence is a religious nutcase whose political worldview of the US being a Christian theocracy is chilling, he (as least so far as we can tell) hasn’t overtly broken any laws, unlike the donald.

Uhhh

Mike Pence’s redacted emails could head to Indiana Supreme Court

indystar.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:09:46pm

re: #8 Myron Falwell

Won’t happen with Sessions as AG.

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scottslemmons  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:10:32pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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You forget the one conservative principle that overrides all other concerns: IOKIYAR.

They won’t impeach Trump, they won’t discipline Conway, they’ll give Flynn a medal.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:12:17pm

re: #17 scottslemmons

You forget the one conservative principle that overrides all other concerns: IOKIYAR.

They won’t impeach Trump, they won’t discipline Conway, they’ll give Flynn a medal.

And they’ll rationalize every single step of the way by declaring that it’s “not an issue with voters” and declaring that the only reason Democrats are bringing it up is to distract from their own issues. Like how every single example of overt racism in their ranks is met with “BYRD!!!!!”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:13:52pm

Thank you Charles for this.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:16:31pm

And it’s good to see your smiling face tonight!

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scottslemmons  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:17:45pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

And they’re rationalize every single step of the way by declaring that it’s “not an issue with voters” and declaring that the only reason Democrats are bringing it up is to distract from their own issues. Like how every single example of overty racism in their ranks is met with “BYRD!!!!!”

Right — after years of complaining about literally every single thing Obama and Clinton did, from contributing to charities to going on vacation, the Republicans are already shrugging off stuff that’d make third-world dictatorships blush. Just three weeks in, and Chaffetz is telling people that presidents cannot have conflicts of interest.

The fact is, the GOP thinks it sees one final chance to grab permanent, undying power, and they’re going to commit and excuse every crime they can to try to make their dreams come true.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:17:53pm

re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus

Won’t happen with Sessions as AG.

Until he gets brought down.

Trump’s lack of ethics is only the tip of the iceberg. Something is going to happen that topples over this entire house of cards.

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:18:11pm

Heh—HuffPo Main

HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPELLATES?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:19:33pm

re: #21 scottslemmons

Which is why they are effectively accessories to the crime. Do you forcibly impeach and remove them from office? I would.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:22:20pm

re: #22 Myron Falwell

Until he gets brought down.

Trump’s lack of ethics is only the tip of the iceberg. Something is going to happen that topples over this house of cards.

At this point, it’s going to take something so egregious that the GOP cannot excuse it. And I’m not sure quite where that red line lies anymore. 2018 is set up such that the DNC has more seats to defend than the GOP, creating in them every incentive to entrench themselves and hope they can maintain the ranks until at least 2020.

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scottslemmons  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:26:38pm

re: #24 Myron Falwell

Which is why they are effectively accessories to the crime. Do you forcibly impeach and remove them from office? I would.

Hell to the yeah. Any Republican we can’t throw into prison needs to have the Trump administration’s corruption, cruelty, and treason wrapped tight around their necks.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:27:47pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

At this point, it’s going to take something so egregious that the GOP cannot excuse it. And I’m not sure quite where that red line lies anymore.

If this story is an early indicator, it could be something utterly ghastly.

Who knows what Putin really has on Trump?

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Joe Bacon  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:27:57pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

At this point, it’s going to take something so egregious that the GOP cannot excuse it. And I’m not sure quite where that red line lies anymore. 2018 is set up such that the DNC has more seats to defend than the GOP, creating in them every incentive to entrench themselves and hope they can maintain the ranks until at least 2020.

My Spidey Sense tells me something major is getting ready to break…

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:28:17pm

Someone who’s not batshit insane must have talked to Trump about not provoking China.

washingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:29:37pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon

My Spidey Sense tells me something major is getting ready to break…

Thing about it is Trump is such a slimy fucker that he’ll likely do to Flynn what he did to so many other failing businesses: Toss him over the gunwale and insist that it was his idea all along.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:29:42pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

There’s the Mitch McConnell aspect of the current situation: that is, the he and his cadre have fantasized of using procedural fuckery, plus the usual gerrymandering/vote suppression fuckery, to create a permanent majority that can ram through pretty much anything they want. And “anything they want” is basically a giant cupboard raid for the donors: cash to the corporations, helpless souls to the ideologues, Blood for the Blood God.

They’re going to cling to Trump until that carcass has rotted to bones…he’s the perfect mixture of patsy for their actions, sideshow for their rubes, and utter flaccid incompetence that will sign anything in front of him. I truly wonder if they actually like his blatant self-dealing and pandering, because eventually they can Charles I him and then pretend like they have ethics.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:31:00pm

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:33:04pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon

Seems like the rest of the Republicans think he’s doing fine.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:34:35pm

re: #27 Myron Falwell

My guess is that Putin has proof that Trump is a sad, sad thicky who sucks up to anyone who meets his schoolyard-bully understanding of what toughness is.

Like a remora that fancies itself a shark.

(Also, some giant fucking markers from Russian investors)

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:38:32pm
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:39:44pm
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prairiefire  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:40:40pm

What a show, what a damn show. Every day, on to one outrage or another. Too many loose ends and loose cannons, Trump will be goooooiiiinnngg dowwwnnn. “Are you readddyyyy toooooo rummmmblllee!”

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:46:55pm

So, Jason had a Very Bad Night. And the cashiered General Flynn has had a Very Bad Night. And the Drumpf has had a Very Bad Day.

All in all, a win/win for the American people!

That’s the nice thing about the Constitution. You have to face your constituents (Jason). You have to not betray your country (Flynn). And you have to work within the law (Drumpf).

Can’t wait for the Tweetstorm Prexy will launch tomorrow.

The man is so predictable. What a fuckwit.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:51:40pm

re: #37 prairiefire

What a show, what a damn show. Every day, on to one outrage or another. Too many loose ends and loose cannons, Trump will be goooooiiiinnngg dowwwnnn. “Are you readddyyyy toooooo rummmmblllee!”

Unfortunately, people said the same thing about this campaign :/

That’s why I’m not allowing myself to be optimistic just yet - we’re rapidly approaching a tipping point, but it could still go in a direction that’s utterly horrific (e.g. outright defiance of court orders followed by stacking the courts with lackeys followed by full-blown fascism). I have no faith what-so-EVER in the GOP to do the right thing. None.

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prairiefire  Feb 9, 2017 • 9:58:16pm

I am having a very horrifying yet exhilarating ride. Puts whatever day to day nonsense in the shadows! It’s like living amongst a perverse ongoing opera, everybody in the country has woken up, its tumultuous, feel like getting my anarchy on! Wild

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:00:20pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

Unfortunately, people said the same thing about this campaign :/

That’s why I’m not allowing myself to be optimistic just yet - we’re rapidly approaching a tipping point, but it could still go in a direction that’s utterly horrific (e.g. outright defiance of court orders followed by stacking the courts with lackeys followed by full-blown fascism). I have no faith what-so-EVER in the GOP to do the right thing. None.

I have to believe that the people will rise up against the potential hell that is this Administration.

I could be wrong, but what Chaffetz went through tonight can’t *not* hit him upside the head like a baseball bat. Flynn should be dead meat, unless the Admin decides to go all in on the Russia connections.

And if they do, the shit will hit the fan.

Okay, okay, we’ll see.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:03:15pm
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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:14:36pm

re: #40 prairiefire

I am having a very horrifying yet exhilarating ride. Puts whatever day to day nonsense in the shadows! It’s like living amongst a perverse ongoing opera, everybody in the country has woken up, its tumultuous, fell like getting my anarchy on! Wild

Yup. It’s like a car accident. Disturbing, but you have to slow down and take a peek. And it’s happening in real time. I haven’t seen this level of incompetence since the run-up to the Iraqi war, and even then, the Admin seemed competent at some level (Send Powell to the UN! We know it’s bullshit, but send him to New York! Give us some room to invade!).

These clowns are Keystone Kops. On the other hand the Fuckwit Shit Gibbon has got the nuclear codes in the football sitting next to him 24/7.

Which is pretty fucking terrifying. I sat nuclear alert for four years. One armed-up B-52 could kill pretty much every human being between Boston and Philadelphia.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:19:05pm

What’s going to roast Flynn’s ass is not going to be so much the discussions with a foreign government as lying about them to federal investigators. As wingnuts brought up again and again during “The Great Email Hunt,” it was lying to federal investigators that fried Petraeus’ ass.

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Anymouse  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:27:30pm

re: #41 austin_blue

I have to believe that the people will rise up against the potential hell that is this Administration.

I could be wrong, but what Chaffetz went through tonight can’t *not* hit him upside the head like a baseball bat. Flynn should be dead meat, unless the Admin decides to go all in on the Russia connections.

And if they do, the shit will hit the fan.

Okay, okay, we’ll see.

Speaking of Chaffetz:

He had a town hall meeting in Utah which did not go well. A takeaway line from him answering a question. The GOP is going to try to sell this as normal. IOKIYAR:

“Where do you draw a line in the sand?” asked one woman in the audience regarding Trump’s potential conflicts of interest.

“Everyone has to comply with the law,” Chaffetz responded. “You’re really not going to like this part,” again to boos. “The president, under the law, is exempt from the conflict-of-interest laws.”

huffingtonpost.com?

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:32:15pm
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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:33:32pm

re: #45 Anymouse

Speaking of Chaffetz:

He had a town hall meeting in Utah which did not go well. A takeaway line from him answering a question. The GOP is going to try to sell this as normal. IOKIYAR:

Which is bullshit. It’s a lie. But he still keeps saying it. The President is not above the law.

Which is why why we have to resist this Administration.

It’s a fucking farce.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:34:00pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

Unfortunately, people said the same thing about this campaign :/

That’s why I’m not allowing myself to be optimistic just yet - we’re rapidly approaching a tipping point, but it could still go in a direction that’s utterly horrific (e.g. outright defiance of court orders followed by stacking the courts with lackeys followed by full-blown fascism). I have no faith what-so-EVER in the GOP to do the right thing. None.

Every time it seemed that Trump was down, he rose up again like a horror movie monster. I agree with you - the Republican party will never do what is right merely because it is right. Every one of them is craven and most are corrupt. They will do what is right only if they are desperate and see no way out to save themselves.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:39:43pm

Chaffetz is such an asshole but then again are there any Republicans these days who aren’t?

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:41:29pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

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From your previous post on an earlier thread, I noticed this:

Jason Wallace, from Austin, Tex., was part of a group that rented a house near the resort and planned to ski at Jackson Hole this week. But while waiting for his connecting flight in Denver on Wednesday, he learned of the storm damage and decided to change his plans. He is skiing in Colorado instead.

“I think we all were kind of lucky to make the call pretty quickly that it wasn’t going to work,” said Mr. Wallace, who hopes to return to Jackson Hole at some point.

That’s a shitpot of money The Hole is going to lose this weekend. How long will it take to get their electrical grid back up?

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:43:56pm

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Chaffetz is such an asshole but then again are there any Republicans these days who aren’t?

Susan Collins, bless her heart. In the House? Crickets.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:44:16pm

re: #50 austin_blue

They’re trying to shoot for Monday. It’s a mess.

Facebook Post

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:57:55pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

They’re trying to shoot for Monday. It’s a mess.

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Rewiring the entire town will be a challenge. Fortunately, you can use your backyard as a refrigerator. Unfortunately, if you have an electric heating system in your home it’s time to pile on humungous layers of blankets on the bed and wear enough layers to make you look like the Michelin man.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:59:05pm

re: #53 austin_blue

I hear Teton Village is a ghost town, with most residents staying in hotels or with friends in Jackson.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 10:59:18pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:02:38pm

re: #55 Kragar

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Quick, somebody call Flynn and ask him if this bad or good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:06:30pm

re: #55 Kragar

Let me guess: Russia is going to start buying large quantities.

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ckkatz  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:07:36pm

Good Grief! I thought that this was a joke, perhaps the Onion or something like it. It isn’t:

How Canada can take Trump’s refugees

Asylum-seekers losing fingers to frostbite after trudging hours through waist-deep snow looking for a safe haven in Canada; two-year-olds making the same dead-of-night trips in -20 C weather who are so cold they tell their parents they’d prefer to stop, and die, rather than press on. On the weekend, 22 lost souls emerging from the wilds of Minnesota ended up in the Canadian border town of 700. And there are many who believe this is just the start of a refugee exodus.

Refugees Fleeing U.S. Make Long, Cold Trek To Manitoba

Manitoba RCMP have confirmed 22 people crossed the border near Emerson, approximately 100 kilometres south of Winnipeg, over the weekend. Nineteen arrived Saturday and another three on Sunday.

Fleeing the U.S. in the back of a truck, refugees find help in Toronto

A pregnant woman hides in the back of a truck to cross the border because she hears Canada is safer than the U.S.

A mother with four young children sells everything to come to cross the border because she’s afraid of being sent back to Africa.

A mom who covered her child’s face with her frostbitten hand for three hours to shield him from the cold in a Toronto park.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:08:56pm

re: #58 ckkatz

Welcome to prolife, Christian, Republican America.

*spit*

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:13:21pm

There was a rusty lizard sighting today! Let us all pray, (if it behooves us to pray, I am agnostic on this issue) that this fate of involuntary oxidation does not befall us.

I believe that the Lizard Nation is strong enough to not be threatened by random oxidation of our scaly skins.

Intoxication may be another issue. But that’s neither here nor there.

Good night, dear friends. Sweet dreams in this mind-boggling time.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:13:42pm

Instagram

Scary how accurately @realmikejudge predicted the future 21 years ago…
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#MAGA #trump #fakenews #SAD #kellyanneconway #memes #EasyD #yourefired #memesdaily

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austin_blue  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:20:53pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: Russia is going to start buying large quantities.

No. The sanctions have cut their reserves to purchase foreign currency to nothing. They are as cash poor a world power as exists on the planet.

This is why they supported Drumpf. They’re economy now is an omnishambles. If things don’t change, their economy will collapse.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:23:30pm

The rubber stamping by feckless gutless GOP senators continues apace.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:24:58pm
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:25:51pm
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ckkatz  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:27:33pm

re: #64 Kragar

I saw an article earlier today that mentioned that a number of Iranians recognize that a lot of Americans are trying to push back against the Know Nothing Trumpers.

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ckkatz  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:30:32pm

Burn an American Flag? Some Iranians Are Saying No

(New York Times)

“We thank Americans who stood up for the seven countries blocked from entering the US by the new travel ban,” one popular Iranian Twitter account stated, with the hashtag #LoveBeyondFlags.

The Twitter user added that the theme of #LoveBeyondFlags resonated from the Azadi Tower, a landmark at the western entrance of Tehran, to the Statue of Liberty in New York. The tower’s name can be translated as “freedom.”

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:35:04pm

The modern Olympics are a joke.

Sochi is experiencing the same thing.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:37:37pm
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Arkansawyer  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:37:59pm

This is the start, friends.
What the hell is going on?
A haiku to warn.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:53:10pm

re: #62 austin_blue

No. The sanctions have cut their reserves to purchase foreign currency to nothing. They are as cash poor a world power as exists on the planet.

This is why they supported Drumpf. They’re economy now is an omnishambles. If things don’t change, their economy will collapse.

I can anecdotally confirm that; some of my students work in international sales for a manufacturer of industrial hydraulic supplies and they travel to Russia for sales meetings routinely. They universally say that Russia’s economy is in the toilet right now and it shows no signs of improving. Like you said, omnishambles.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2017 • 11:53:47pm

These blokes are taking global warming deadly seriously.

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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 12:12:17am
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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 12:24:11am

Evergreen tweet.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2017 • 12:40:36am

re: #72 teleskiguy

These blokes are taking global warming deadly seriously.

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/afk, gone to london

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 10, 2017 • 12:57:53am

Ike Reilly and Shooter Jennings - War on Terror and Drugs

Ike reilly and Shooter Jennings - war on terror and drugs

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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 12:59:38am

Live stream of the Women’s Super Combined at the World Alpine Ski Championships in St. Moritz, Switzerland.

stream.nbcsports.com

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Dave In Austin  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:17:34am
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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:28:16am

re: #77 teleskiguy

Lindsey Vonn is currently in 6th place, about .85 seconds off of first place. Sophia Goggia from Italy is currently in first.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:30:44am

re: #51 austin_blue

No, Collins is not better than other Republicans. Why do you believe otherwise?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:33:22am

re: #25 Targetpractice

At this point, it’s going to take something so egregious that the GOP cannot excuse it. And I’m not sure quite where that red line lies anymore. 2018 is set up such that the DNC has more seats to defend than the GOP, creating in them every incentive to entrench themselves and hope they can maintain the ranks until at least 2020.

Especially when it is a matter of Party vs Country…

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:34:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 10, 2017 • 1:39:47am

Meanwhile……

To quiet concerns over foreign influence, President Donald Trump promised no new international business deals while in office. Instead, Trump’s business is returning to a very old one.

The Trump family’s re-engagement in a Dominican resort deal signed a decade ago surfaced unexpectedly last week, when Eric Trump, an executive vice president, was photographed touring the property Feb. 2 with developers Ricardo and Fernando Hazoury.

……..

A firm plan for further Trump-licensed development at Cap Cana, a luxury beachfront resort just minutes from one of the Dominican Republic’s largest airports, isn’t yet in place. But the prospect for a resumption of the 2007 licensing deal would test the limits of Donald Trump’s pledge to halt new international Trump-branded projects during his presidency.

The renewed pursuit of the project shows that the company believes it has latitude to carry on significant new activity overseas, despite the president’s pledge to avoid new foreign development deals.

“No new foreign deals will be made whatsoever during the duration of President Trump’s presidency,” Trump lawyer Sheri Dillon of Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLC said last month at a news conference. Under the self-imposed rules she described, new domestic deals will be allowed, but they will go through what she described as a vigorous vetting process.

hosted.ap.org

Shake my damn head. And of course, the GOP will blithely look the other way.

CROOKED HILLARY! BENGHAZI!! HER E-MAILS!!!

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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:02:21am

re: #77 teleskiguy

Two U.S. women in the top ten! Laurenne Ross in 5th and Lindsey Vonn in 6th. Second run in two hours.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:09:37am

re: #55 Kragar

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Have any analysts written about this?

Looking at the Treasury interest rates, they shot up after election day but the ending rate for 2016 wasn’t that much different from the starting (3.06% and 2.98%, respectively, for a 30-year bond). And so far the average rate this year has been around 3%.

If foreigners weren’t buying the bonds, one would expect the rates to increase more.

(I would think, not an economics expert here.)

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:14:47am

Grr…writing a comment after waking up and I make three typos.

Thank God for edit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:17:31am

re: #86 Timothy Watson

Grr…writing a comment after waking up and I make three typos.

Thank God for edit.

no posting before first cup and twenty minutes for caffiene to kick in

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Alyosha  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:17:44am

A meeting of the finest minds our nation has to offer.
Allow me to present the Q Society. Read the article and you’ll see that for a few short hours, the North Ryde RSL (Returned Servicemen League) in New South Wales, eclipsed Mos Eisley spaceport as the most wretched hive of scum and villainy.

The Islamophobia and homophobia present can be summed up in this excerpt:

“Let’s be honest, I can’t stand Muslims,” said Larry Pickering, cartoonist and VIP guest at the Q Society fundraising dinner held in Sydney on Thursday night.

“If they are in the same street as me, I start shaking.”

Then the cartoonist, who had donated for auction one of his own works depicting the rape of a woman in a niqab by her son-in-law, softened slightly.

“They are not all bad, they do chuck pillow-biters off buildings.”

What’s really fucked up is…

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I cannot.  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:00:17am

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Not sure that makes me feel at ease. IMO Pence is more dangerous because he knows what he’s doing.

As someone who lives in Indiana, I feel that I can say with some degree of certainty, that no, Pence does NOT know what he’s doing. He’s just quieter, and has better hair.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:01:54am

re: #89 I cannot.

As someone who lives in Indiana, I feel that I can say with some degree of certainty, that no, Pence does NOT know what he’s doing. He’s just quieter, and has better hair.

Pence is not that bright.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:17:48am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:19:07am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:22:15am

re: #51 austin_blue

Susan Collins, bless her heart. In the House? Crickets.

Not even. The only one I know of is Ana Navarro, and she doesn’t hold any office whatsoever.

I would have said two, but Hawaii State Rep. Beth Fukumoto left the party entirely to become a Democrat last week.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:23:31am

re: #91 Timothy Watson

Looks like someone got bigly threatened by a global superpower.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:27:53am

re: #94 Myron Falwell

Looks like someone got bigly threatened by a global superpower.

Either that, or someone in his Cabinet talked some damned sense into him. Presumably, it wasn’t Bannon.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:28:20am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile……

……..

hosted.ap.org

Shake my damn head. And of course, the GOP will blithely look the other way.

CROOKED HILLARY! BENGHAZI!! HER E-MAILS!!!

Which is why Jason Chaffetz got booed and heckled out of his own town forum last night. Even his own constituents see through the “Trump’s exempt from COE laws” lying bullshit.

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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:29:10am

re: #94 Myron Falwell

Looks like someone got bigly threatened by a global superpower.

Pee pee tape.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:37:39am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

Either that, or someone in his Cabinet talked some damned sense into him. Presumably, it wasn’t Bannon.

One person would have been available that wouldn’t be at sundown tonight…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2017 • 3:41:07am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

Either that, or someone in his Cabinet talked some damned sense into him. Presumably, it wasn’t Bannon.

I’m sure it was Mattis, he’s the only one who seems to understand what a real conflict with China would entail.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:01:06am

I live a few miles to the north of this asshole. It’s called North Ridgetucky for good reason.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:01:23am

re: #23 BeachDem

Heh—HuffPo Main

HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPELLATES?

To misquote Plucky Duck, “Some Appellate judges are always sour!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:02:33am

re: #100 Myron Falwell

I live a few miles to the north of this asshole. It’s called North Ridgetucky for good reason.

There are lots of people whose understanding of gender is that cretinous…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:12:11am

re: #101 Sherlock Hound

To misquote Plucky Duck, “Some Appellate judges are always sour!”

There must be a joke in there about appellate guns, but I do not want to go there…

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:15:38am

re: #100 Myron Falwell

That man should speak for himself. He probably has to drop his pants to count to 21.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:20:29am

re: #46 teleskiguy

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:25:47am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:51:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:51:21am

Here is why Bill Clinton was impeached.

Lying about something trivial and “abuse of power.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:52:12am

God there’s no rest. I called it a night thinking that the only item of the day was Trump’s SEE YOU IN THE COURT but nope seeing what’s come out about Flynn. Make it’s only been three weeks. My hope is that the Trump administration deeply makes American voters wary to trust the Republican Party with any kind of power at all.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:52:58am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

Here is why Bill Clinton was impeached.

Lying about something trivial and “abuse of power.”

If they can impeach Clinton based off lying about a sexual affair, Trump should be able to be impeached if he’s under oath and lies about his and his advisers’ Russia ties.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:53:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:54:28am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

God there’s no rest. I called it a night thinking that the only item of the day was Trump’s SEE YOU IN THE COURT but nope seeing what’s come out about Flynn. Make it’s only been three weeks. My hope is that the Trump administration deeply makes American voters wary to trust the Republican Party with any kind of power at all.

They are wary of trusting any party. That is why a lot of people supported Trump: they somehow envisioned him as an ass-kicker who was above and beyond any checks and balances and was going to kick things back into shape by “giving America back to the people”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:55:12am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

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This is why you don’t elect an “outsider” “from outside Washington.” Trump doesn’t know basic policy but that’s part of the deal, it’s not a bug. His energy secretary who is honestly one of the least offensive parts of his administration had no idea what DOE did while wanting to have eliminated it in the past. How bad is it if Rick Perry is one of your administration’s least offensive parts?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:55:50am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are wary of trusting any party. That is why a lot of people supported Trump: they somehow envisioned him as an ass-kicker who was above and beyond any checks and balances and was going to kick things back into shape by “giving America back to the people”.

Anyone who trusted Trump should be embarrassed. His whole campaign was lie after lie over the most trival bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 4:58:49am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Anyone who trusted Trump should be embarrassed. His whole campaign was lie after lie over the most trival bullshit.

lies that were defended and rationalized rather than called out and challenged

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Alyosha  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:01:00am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

I hope, and believe, that even if Democrats cannot ultimately overcome Trump’s decisions, that procedural obstruction and judicial independence will drive him to the drink.
Yanno, like a normal person might seek refuge in.
Resistance is working.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:01:01am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

Here is why Bill Clinton was impeached.

Lying about something trivial and “abuse of power.”

By the same special prosecutor who later went ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at heinous acts within the college he was heading.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:01:21am

El Presidente’s dealmaking superpowers on display as China eats his lunch, again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:07:52am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:08:27am

re: #117 Myron Falwell

By the same special prosecutor who later went ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at heinous acts within the college he was heading.

I always had a bad vibe on Starr. I mean yes I get that Clinton technically wasn’t impeached for getting a blowie but the fact that the Republicans were spending tax pay dollars investigating the president’s sexual life did bother me. And of course, these same Republicans think Trump is no big deal.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:09:00am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Honestly, how long before he resigns because the poor widdle snowflake can’t handle the pressure?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:09:29am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:09:56am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are wary of trusting any party. That is why a lot of people supported Trump: they somehow envisioned him as an ass-kicker who was above and beyond any checks and balances and was going to kick things back into shape by “giving America back to the people”.

You left out white at the end.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:10:42am

We heard that Hillary was soooooooo corrupt and here his administration is, not only corrupt but compromised to a hostile foreign power. So much projection that IMAX is jealous.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:13:14am

While Trump may have managed to patch things up with Chyyynnnna! he still needs to win back Australia.

nytimes.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:13:26am

re: #123 Belafon

You left out white at the end.

that was implied by the quotation marks…we know who “the people” are when they use those terms

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:13:57am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:14:06am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that was implied by the quotation marks…we know who “the people” are when they use those terms

Make America White Again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:19:23am
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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:21:03am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are wary of trusting any party. That is why a lot of people supported Trump: they somehow envisioned him as an ass-kicker who was above and beyond any checks and balances and was going to kick things back into shape by “giving America back to the people”.

IOW, governing by the principles of their cherished prejudices - delivering that “kicking” to the asses they dislike the most, while publicly reminding them that they (Trump supporters) are God’s Own Chosen Elect.*

*Literally, in a lot of cases: I see it in the press all the time: interviews with Trump supporters who freely cite their support for a vulgar, irreligious, hypocritical grifter like Donald Trump on the grounds that he, or his Administration, is somehow more “Godly”…

The mind, it is boggled….

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steve_davis  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:26:19am

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Not sure that makes me feel at ease. IMO Pence is more dangerous because he knows what he’s doing.

I’ve thought about this and decided that if Trump is impeached, Pence would be running a caretaker government for the rest of the term. Democrats would have a very reasonable argument that they can’t possibly allow a supreme court pick to go through under a crippled government which, in any other country, would topple the entire government and bring on new elections.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:28:26am

He got his Twitter phone back

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:29:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:30:11am
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Lidane  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:30:24am

Truth:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:34:26am

I just read the Lawfare post, and while it is short, it uses bigly words and it is doubtful that El Presidente can understand it.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:38:27am

Sad but more than likely true.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:48:36am

re: #137 Myron Falwell

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:50:37am

re: #135 Lidane

Truth:

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Trying to figure out what font would work for Alex Jones’ Twitter. Wingdings? Webdings? Russian? Woodstock’s hash marks?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:51:55am

He has such a limited understanding of law. Makes me glad to have taken the time to educate myself on such matters.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:52:15am

re: #139 Myron Falwell

Trying to figure out what font would work for Alex Jones’ Twitter. Wingdings? Webdings? Russian? Woodstock’s hash marks?

Feces.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:56:11am

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

I just read the Lawfare post, and while it is short, it uses bigly words and it is doubtful that El Presidente can understand it.

1.) The lawfare guy must have missed this direct reference to the law in Part 4 of the opinion:

The Government contends that the district court lacked authority to enjoin enforcement of the Executive Order because the President has “unreviewable authority to suspend the admission of any class of aliens.”

IDK, maybe he wanted the Court to spoon feed the reader US Code chapter and verse?

2.) He also concludes the Court did the right thing in refusing to reinstate the ban.

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jeffreyw  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:56:31am

Imgur


Good morning!

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:56:56am

Greets and saluts from the resistance. Trump’s reading comprehension skills remain lacking, and he gets his news is 140 character soundbites, because anything more is too taxing for him to comprehend.

The same can’t be said of his guy Flynn, who was caught on tape talking with the Russians about sanctions before the elections were decided. He was busy saying how not to worry about Obama’s sanctions because they’d be taken care of once Trump won.

Not only do 9 people independently confirm that this conversation occurred, but there’s a fucking transcript of this criminal thug talking to the Russians about it:

Everyone working with Bannon/Trump thinks they’re above the law, starting with Trump. Conway engages in illegal acts, and she acts like Trump gets to absolve her and that’s all there is to it. That’s not how it works. Trump isn’t a priest who says your sins are absolved if you say a few hail Marys. This is the kind of corruption that even the lamentable and excremental Jason Chaffetz can’t overlook. In fact, he cosigned a letter with Rep. Cummings demanding answers about the Conway peddling Ivanka’s garbage.

Anyone with a functioning brain knew that Trump was heading full steam towards a kakistocracy tinged with kleptocracy and autocracy. Trumpcracy if you will. It’s all the worst kinds of behavior all wrapped up in a festering pustule of ego, narcissism, ignorance, and determination to break government.

The GOP has no problem with any of this, and they are enabling all of Trump’s worst aspects. They’ve gone along with his nominees despite all of them being unqualified, engaging in acts that would have killed prior nominations (not paying taxes, no problems, insider-trading, self-dealing, let alone sheer ignorance about how the agency they’re being selected for actually operates). None of this matters to the GOP as they rubber stamp his Arkham asylum of cronies to sabotage government operations.

All that stands in their way is the courts, and here too they’re going to make serious inroads as they control the nomination process too. Lots of empty positions in the judiciary have to be filled, and the GOP obstructionism over the past 8 years means that the GOP will get their shot to fill a whole load of them with like minded extremists. That means that the right wing agenda will get a willing accomplice from the bench - so when the GOP talks about activist judges, they better look in the mirror since their entire notion of originalism and original intent is so much BS as they’re as politically minded as the liberals they excoriate time and again for finding that the Constitution protects the civil rights of people. They want to limit the civil and voting rights - that’s their stated intent and purpose (we have them on tape about the voting rights multiple times), and many want to see the civil rights rolled back too - Obergefell for instance.

GOP wants to roll back a century of progress, and that’s just for starters.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 5:58:19am

With people showing up at Chaffetz’s town hall, Diane Black in Tennessee, and so many showed up at that one Congressman’s event that he canceled, I wonder if we’re also witnessing what Churchill is supposed to have said: Americans will always do the right thing after they have tried everything else. Too many of us, and I’ll throw myself into that, kind of hoped that people would go “freedom is awesome, health care is awesome, being able to eat is awesome” and would just choose to do what was right for everyone. We’re learning you have to do more.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:00:41am
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Alyosha  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:01:27am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Feces.

I hear InfoWars’ vitamin supplements imbue the user with amazing calligraphical skill.
You try daubing human excrement in a cramped Son of Sam typeface on an attic ceiling.

Much harder than it appears.

(Obvious edit is obvious)

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Dave In Austin  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:03:24am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:06:07am

AMERICA’S GETTING LESS WHITE, AND THAT WILL SAVE IT from Newsweek, 12-6-2014

The Quiverfull movement, White Supremacists in the Oval Office, the focus on terrorism and National Security …

It’s all an attempt to change the inevitable. The ones that believe in “gunning-up” are positioning themselves to be the winners in an all out war.

This is scary as shit.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:06:37am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

Reading comprehension is not his strong suit.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:10:22am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:11:02am

re: #138 MsJ

I don’t think that the GOP would care if they lost 100 house seats. It’s the deal they made with the devil.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:12:46am
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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:18:29am

No one knows what Trump was thinking when he ran, let alone won and how he’d respond? He’s doing exactly what he’s done all his life - attempt to bluster through with BS, except this time he’s not the guy with the biggest ego or checkbook on the stage with none to challenge him.

He doesn’t understand that the Executive Branch is not an aristocracy. There are two other branches that are supposed to keep the President’s powers in check. Trump hates that he can’t just rule by diktat. In fact, it’s astounding that Trump has used EOs to push policies that the GOP says they support, cutting out Congress (but getting legislative staffers to half-ass write it on the down low) in the process.

Bannon/Trump continue railing against the system, and while that’s something that their supporters want (sabotage and destroy the system), the reality is that their supporters are more likely to rely on government services than most. They’re the ones who are going to be on Medicare/Medicaid sooner (demographics skew GOP white, older, and men), which means gutting those programs will hit them harder.

So, unless the GOP moves to grandfather in those folks (which is all the more likely since the demographics will shift significant in coming decades), they’ll be hit early and often by the GOP gutting of the safety net.

As a reminder, Medicare, Medicaid, and SS are all paid by taxpayers through deductions made on your paycheck - they’re specifically funded from those taxes. Address the solvency of those funds could take any number of forms, including raising the eligibility age, raising the tax, or the cutoff level for taxes to fund SS. Any/all of those options could fix the solvency, and get the nation through the Baby Boom retirement with a fiscally solid footing.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:18:30am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

We can only hope

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:20:05am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:20:30am

GOP eyes new push to break up California court The Hill, 1/22/2017

Republican lawmakers are eyeing a new push to break up the California-based federal court of appeals, which is widely considered one of the most liberal courts in the country.

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said he’s planning to introduce legislation in the coming weeks to split up the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers his state and eight others, including California, Alaska, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Washington and Hawaii, as well as Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.

“With regard to the court, it’s just access to justice,” Flake said. “Its docket is more than twice as big as the next biggest circuit. This has been a long time coming, and hopefully we can make some progress finally.”

Flake’s office said the bill will be similar to the legislation he introduced a year ago to establish an additional U.S. circuit court — composed of Arizona, Nevada, Montana, Idaho and Alaska — to relieve what he said at the time is an “oversized and overworked” 9th U.S. Circuit.

The term “legislating from the Bench” has been bandied around for a while by the Whackos.

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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:21:06am

re: #149 Birth Control Works

AMERICA’S GETTING LESS WHITE, AND THAT WILL SAVE IT from Newsweek, 12-6-2014
.

I dunno, to me there’s something “off” about that chart. I mean, I agree about the “America getting less white” over the next generation or so part, and that the “white” population, in absolute numbers, might be likely to plateau: but the growth rate of the “minorities” population seems a bit overoptimistic.

But yeah, scary scenarios can easily be imagined: how will the nominal Herrenvolk going to react when there are way more volk than herren??

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:22:36am

re: #158 Jay C

I dunno, to me there’s something “off” about that chart. I mean, I agree about the “America getting less white” over the next generation or so part, and that the “white” population, in absolute numbers, might be likely to plateau: but the growth rate of the “minorities” population seems a bit overoptimistic.

But yeah, scary scenarios can easily be imagined: how will the nominal Herrenvolk going to react when there are way more volk than herren??

I think it’s more a fear of being a minority. Fear of losing power can cause people to behave in very bad ways

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:27:36am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:30:47am

Being exposed to Fox News on a regular basis —I do fear for this country. The key words seem to be “National Security”, “Killing Christians” &

I heard last night that genocide has/is being committed in the ME —Christians are being killed. I know it’s a meme for the Right, but is it really happening to the extent we can use the word genocide?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:31:45am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

Being exposed to Fox News on a regular basis —I do fear for this country. The key words seem to be “National Security”, “Killing Christians” &

I heard last night that genocide has/is being committed in the ME —Christians are being killed. I know it’s a meme for the Right, but is it really happening to the extent we can use the word genocide?

Especially when many more Muslims are being killed by Islamist terrorists than any other group…

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Teukka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:35:26am

Okay Lizardim, there is an actual Uni course for this!
Calling Bullshit

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:40:54am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

Being exposed to Fox News on a regular basis —I do fear for this country. The key words seem to be “National Security”, “Killing Christians” &

I heard last night that genocide has/is being committed in the ME —Christians are being killed. I know it’s a meme for the Right, but is it really happening to the extent we can use the word genocide?

It’s fair to say daesh and other extremists would exterminate nearly all of the Christians in territory it’s takes over. But that’s villages, not whole regions. Christianity is certainly not under an existential threat.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:43:35am

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

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(Chelsea) Clinton 2020!

*ducks*

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:44:50am

re: #163 Teukka

Okay Lizardim, there is an actual Uni course for this!
Calling Bullshit

Brandolini’s law

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Teukka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:45:12am

re: #165 Timothy Watson

(Chelsea) Clinton 2020!

*ducks*

To be honest, if Donnie keeps fucking up enough, she will have a cakewalk :)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:45:14am

One group that should breathe a sigh of relief concerning a cool down between Trump and China: luxury car dealers. Walk through any parking lot on a campus with a significant number of Chinese students and you’ll know what I mean.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:45:24am

re: #164 Unshaken Defiance

It’s fair to say daesh and other extremists would exterminate nearly all of the Christians in territory it’s takes over. But that’s villages, not whole regions. Christianity is certainly not under an existential threat.

And most of the Middle Eastern countries take care of their minority religions because it’s a freakin’ tenant tenet of Islam.

Fixed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:45:40am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:46:17am

re: #169 Belafon

And most of the Middle Eastern countries take care of their minority religions because it’s a freakin’ tenant of Islam.

really?

I think history proves the opposite.

UPDATE: Ignore this —early morning/not enough coffee misinterpretation

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:46:44am

re: #169 Belafon

And most of the Middle Eastern countries take care of their minority religions because it’s a freakin’ tenant of Islam.

Tenet, not tenant.

Tenet: A principle of faith
Tenant: someone who rents a house or apartment

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:47:30am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

El Presidente’s dealmaking superpowers on display as China eats his lunch, again.

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ALL OBAMA TRUMP PROMISES COME WITH EXPIRATION DATES

(To steal from Instapundit.)

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:48:00am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Tenet, not tenant.

Tenet: A principle of faith
Tenant: someone who rents a house or apartment

Thanks. Fixed.

Too much Doctor Who.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:48:17am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Tenet, not tenant.

Tenet: A principle of faith
Tenant: someone who rents a house or apartment

Tennant: a Scottish actor whose accent in Broadchurch was often unintelligible to me.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:49:05am

re: #171 Birth Control Works

really?

I think history proves the opposite.

And it’s a tenet of Christianity to take care of migrants because they were themselves one at one point.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:49:22am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:50:18am

re: #177 Birth Control Works

That will be a good skill, especially as it gets easier to manipulate information.

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Citizen K  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:51:19am

re: #169 Belafon

And most of the Middle Eastern countries take care of their minority religions because it’s a freakin’ tenant of Islam.

re: #171 Birth Control Works

really?

I think history proves the opposite.

That’s something that’s changed only in relatively recent history, much like a lot of the stuff used to justify fear of Islam. If I remember correctly, a lot of pre-Ottoman Kingdoms on the Middle East and such would allow Christians and Jews to act as citizens in their own right if they paid a tax. Something worth noting when around this same time in Europe, Christian kingdoms were running Jews out almost as soon as they could find them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:51:49am

re: #176 Belafon

And it’s a tenet of Christianity to take care of migrants because they were themselves one at one point.

Which they got from Judaism.

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Teukka  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:52:49am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Which they got from Judaism.

Now how many times does the Torah pound into its readers that most rules apply to the aliens within your gates as well as yourself?

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:53:18am

re: #176 Belafon

And it’s a tenet of Christianity to take care of migrants because they were themselves one at one point.

whoa, wait, full stop.

take care of = literally, to care for, nurture, feed, clothe etc.

or

take care of = Sicilian style *wink*

I took your post to mean the 2nd. (heh, I’m from Chicago —such is slang around here)

A perfect example of the difficulties of effective communication.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:54:02am

re: #178 Belafon

That will be a good skill, especially as it gets easier to manipulate information.

while fox news preaches that our schools don’t teach such things …

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Citizen K  Feb 10, 2017 • 6:58:15am

re: #176 Belafon

And it’s a tenet of Christianity to take care of migrants because they were themselves one at one point.

And on that note, I again have to bring up the Good Samaritan, which only ever seems to get half its message pushed in common Christian thought. People ignore the part where the Samaritan was someone of a group that Judeans saw as tribal enemies of sorts, which made the Good Samaritan’s actions even more profound.

Think a Japanese man in Korea, helping a Korean man half dead to the hospital after several neighbors passed him up. Or for us, a Middle Eastern Muslim doing the same to an American post-Bystander Syndrome.

Seems like a lot of things have just been shuffled off as inconvenient because Christianity is default now (especially, and ironically so, by fundamentalist Christians). I assume that Islam is no different in that respect: parts inconvenient to the parties in power just blissfully ignored so they can keep wrapping themselves in the faith as justification for their power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:02:17am

re: #184 Citizen K

Seems like a lot of things have just been shuffled off as inconvenient because Christianity is default now (especially, and ironically so, by fundamentalist Christians). I assume that Islam is no different in that respect: parts inconvenient to the parties in power just blissfully ignored so they can keep wrapping themselves in the faith as justification for their power.

Christianity is hard.

Heck, the not stealing and killing and coveting and fornicating part is difficult, but if you fail there, you can always go confess your sins and repent and start over again…but the being kind to strangers, even those who hate you, is really fucking hard.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:10:01am

I’ve not had nearly enough coffee for …

1-this morning
2-this administration
3-everything

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Teukka  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:10:58am

re: #186 Birth Control Works

I’ve not had nearly enough coffee for …

1-this morning
2-this administration
3-everything

Arguments for IV Caffeine drip? ///

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:12:06am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reminds me of this I just read:

I was sent to Iraq in January 2007 with a logistics unit, the sort unlikely to engage in Chontosh-style heroics. We managed the key parts of an army people often forget about: truck drivers, engineers, explosive disposal specialists, postal workers — and, crucially, doctors.

Midway through my deployment a Marine arrived on base with severe wounds. He’d been shot by an enemy sniper, and the medical staff swarmed around his body, working frantically, skillfully, but it wasn’t enough. He died on the table.

Normally, there’d be a moment of silence, of prayer, but the team got word that the man who killed this young Marine, the insurgent sniper, would be arriving a few minutes later. That dead Marine’s squadmates had engaged the sniper in a firefight, shot him a couple of times, patched him up, bandaged him and called for a casualty evacuation to save the life of the man who’d killed their friend.

So he arrived at our base. And the medical staff members, still absorbing the blow of losing a Marine, got to work. They stabilized their enemy and pumped him full of American blood, donated from the “walking blood bank” of nearby Marines. The sniper lived. And then they put him on a helicopter to go to a hospital for follow-up care, and one of the Navy nurses was assigned to be his flight nurse. He told me later of the strangeness of sitting in the back of a helicopter, watching over his enemy lying peacefully unconscious, doped up on painkillers, while he kept checking the sniper’s vitals, his blood pressure, his heartbeat, a heartbeat that was steady and strong thanks to the gift of blood from the Americans this insurgent would have liked to kill.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:12:07am

re: #187 Teukka

Arguments for IV Caffeine drip? ///

We had a professor who did not allow coffee in her seminars, I also asked if an IV drip would be acceptable…

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:14:22am

Political decision by the courts. You mean like Citizens United. Or perhaps Bush v. Gore? Or even Hobby Lobby?

Heck, even the Court’s ruling on the ACA was political, especially considering the pretzel logic that they undertook to find that states could opt out of the marketplaces while finding that the individual mandate was constitutional.

Everywhere you look, the Court engages in political decisions - deciding whether legislative decisions - the law - comports with the US Constitution. Trump’s just pissed that the courts aren’t buying his BS.

Actually, that’s a bit of hyperbole on my part. The courts couldn’t buy his BS because he didn’t offer any actual proof that his policies would do what they claimed it would. You can’t just claim national security as the end-all answer in response to depriving someone due process under the US Constitution. The GOP has no response to any of this except to repeat mindlessly - national security - as though it is the answer to everything, including a cover for their bigotry and xenophobia.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:16:36am

re: #190 lawhawk

Of course it’s a political decision, Don, it involves the operation of government. Quit trying to make it out that somehow your actions are different than everyone else in government.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:20:00am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Tennant: a Scottish actor whose accent in Broadchurch was often unintelligible to me.

And not to be confused with Pet Shop Boy Neil Tennant (whom David McDonald took his Equity acting name from).

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:20:14am

To date, I cannot find an international response to the decriminalization of Domestic Violence in Russia.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:21:29am

re: #137 Myron Falwell

Sad but more than likely true.

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Uh, because Betsy DeVos is a white supremacist as well. She is just more of the “uptown Klan” type.

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Teukka  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:21:38am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

To date, I cannot find an international response to the decriminalization of Domestic Violence in Russia.

There have been harsh words domestically here in Sweden.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:22:01am

Do you ever have one of those days —it seems like you forgot to brush your teeth, when you didn’t?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:22:40am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:22:54am

So Price was confirmed last night, 50-47 on party line votes (McCaskill was with her husband who was undergoing surgery). That means two Republicans did not vote.

This also means that Price’s seat is now open, and there will be an election to fill it.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:25:38am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:26:00am

re: #195 Teukka

There has been harsh words domestically here in Sweden.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:28:15am

bbl

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:29:50am

Sean Spicer spinning the idea that criticising the administration is the equivalent of showing disrespect to the Navy Seal Chief Ryan Owens killed in Yemen.

Then there’s the Spicer performance yesterday. During the daily press briefing — now the best free entertainment in the capital — he had the gall to not just call the recent U.S. raid in Yemen an unfettered success but then suggest a lack of patriotism by those who deemed it otherwise.

Anybody who would suggest it wasn’t a “huge success,” he said, “owes an apology” to the U.S. solider, Ryan Owens, who died.

Which means that Sen. John McCain, of all people, would need to apologize. After all, it was McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who called the raid a failure.

Allegedly Sean Spicer served in the Navy Reserve, though I have not seen evidence of it. What he is calling for is straight-up fascistic leader worship.

poynter.org

Chief Owens died carrying out a mission on orders of the civilian government he swore to obey. It is possible to respect Chief Owens and at the same time criticise the government that got him killed, six other seamen wounded, a $22 million dollar aircraft destroyed, and a bunch of civilians killed as well.

Government incompetent is not equal to disrespect of the Armed Forces. Jim Wright weighs in on this at this blog.

Into the Valley of Death, Again (A relatively short post at Stonekettle Station)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:30:16am

re: #198 Belafon

So Price was confirmed last night, 50-47 on party line votes (McCaskill was with her husband who was undergoing surgery). That means two Republicans did not vote.

This also means that Price’s seat is now open, and there will be an election to fill it.

So this means Medicare and Social Security are on the chopping block along with Obamacare.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:30:24am

Since US intelligence actually has released transcripts of Mike Flynn talking sanctions before the election, will he be fired today? He should face charges, right?

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:32:12am

re: #204 Barefoot Grin

Since US intelligence actually has released transcripts of Mike Flynn talking sanctions before the election, will he be fired today? He should face charges, right?

Surely you jest.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:34:25am

That’s because Trump doesn’t read past the headlines. Nor does he expect his supporters to do the same. Attention span of a gnat, and I’m probably offending gnats with that comparison.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:34:36am

re: #198 Belafon

So Price was confirmed last night, 50-47 on party line votes (McCaskill was with her husband who was undergoing surgery). That means two Republicans did not vote.

This also means that Price’s seat is now open, and there will be an election to fill it.

Wouldn’t it be something if the special election flips Price’s seat over to the Democrats?

It probably wouldn’t happen under normal circumstances, but this is not normal.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:34:57am

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

So this means Medicare and Social Security are on the chopping block along with Obamacare.

Considering Republicans are having meetings about their safety over people showing up in their office over the ACA, having full town halls about it, and cancelling town halls to avoid talking about it, it sounds like a few of the Republicans are getting worried about what will happen if changes start occurring.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:35:27am

speaking of which:

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Birth Control Works  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:36:03am

bbl, 4 real

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:44:46am

re: #209 Birth Control Works

whitegenocideproject (dot) com? Who are all these deluded people in our country?

The same as thought Irish and Poles were “not white” some years ago I guess. The same that don’t seem to know how many Hispanics are white.

Pearl-clutchers, the lot of them. Afraid of everything.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:47:02am

This didn’t get a lot of attention yesterday but El Presidente lost another one==>

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:48:25am

Oh brother.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:49:08am

re: #213 Anymouse

Oh brother.

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Also: Fuck Johnson and Stein voters.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:49:23am

Trump has no one around him giving him any kind of competent guidance on anything. He’s complaining about the slow pace of confirmations, even though he’s on pace with prior administrations - and he could be going faster if he actually put up competent people in the first place.

Oh, and there’s lots of positions he hasn’t given names over for - all those undersecretary positions who do the grunt work to back up the principals for each of the departments.

If you wonder why Trump’s going from foreign crisis to crisis over his dumbassery on phone calls, this is it. His Sec. State and Defense Secretary, plus GOP Senators are already engaging in an apology tour with our allies to reassure them that all is well (it isn’t). Trump’s making a mess of foreign policy, and he’s three weeks into the job. It’s not getting any easier, and that’s entirely by his own doing.

He thinks bullying the courts will help him. It wont.
He thinks bullying allies will help him. It wont.
His supporters think bullying allies will help them. It wont.

But they persist. Mostly because there isn’t anyone to tell them otherwise.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:50:28am
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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:51:48am

re: #211 Anymouse

whitegenocideproject (dot) com? Who are all these deluded people in our country?

The White House staff?

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:55:45am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:56:53am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:57:54am

re: #218 Anymouse

You know Trump saw the article from the NYT and, just to prove them wrong, picked up the phone right at that moment to call China.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:58:02am

re: #218 Anymouse

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Uh…he’s complaining about a story which is about that call itself? Did no one teach him what “had” means and the pluperfect/past perfect tense?
nytimes.com

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Dr. Matt  Feb 10, 2017 • 7:58:57am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:00:50am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:01:53am

re: #221 Timothy Watson

Uh…he’s complaining about a story which is about that call itself? Did no one teach him what “had” means and the pluperfect/past perfect tense?
nytimes.com

Just skimmed the article. This is just more awesomeness:

The business relationships between some of Mr. Trump’s advisers and leading Chinese companies with close links to the Communist Party may also be strengthening ties. Mr. Kushner took part in talks last year with the Chinese billionaire Wu Xiaohui to help redevelop the Kushner family’s crown jewel, a commercial building on Fifth Avenue.

Does South Korea have a Trump hotel?

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:02:30am

re: #220 Belafon

You know Trump saw the article from the NYT and, just to prove them wrong, picked up the phone right at that moment to call China.

But the NYT story says he talked to China at the beginning of the very first sentence.

I think those ‘he can’t read’ allegations are true. There’s really no other explanation.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:03:04am

re: #224 Belafon

Just skimmed the article. This is just more awesomeness:

Does South Korea have a Trump hotel?

Yes:
trump.com

Although that wasn’t stopping him from bitching about the South Korean-American free trade deal back in 2012.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:07:14am

re: #225 makeitstop

But the NYT story says he talked to China at the beginning of the very first sentence.

I think those ‘he can’t read’ allegations are true. There’s really no other explanation.

Thanks. I wrote that before skimming the article. Trump really is just a psychotic version of ELIZA: He takes input and writes a response entirely to make himself feel like he’s the winner.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:09:28am

Today’s open newspaper poll here:

Do you think President Trump has begun healing the divide in the US?

So far it’s running about 2/1 for “no”
starherald.com (Goes to poll)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:10:14am

Welp, so this happened==>
WATCH: Sec. Betsy DeVos physically blocked by protesters from entering DC school—turned away and left.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:11:09am
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mmmirele  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:13:32am

re: #50 austin_blue

Not everyone in the area is affected. One of my friends lives in Wilson, down the road, and he’s got electric, internet and a shitton of snow.

ETA: he has a wood stove as his home heating. His place isn’t very big and the stove works great.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:16:10am

So, that story about the Republican who canceled his meeting because too many people showed up: Well, he attempted to hold the event after saying it was canceled, but Democrats got wind of it, and he really did cancel it after they started showing up and asking questions: dailykos.com.

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(alpuz)  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:16:31am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

So Trump can’t take the pressure of being CoC. In WAY over his bulbous head. DeVos has to actually confront the people she’s been fucking over for her entire life and turns and bails.

The voices of the plebeians are like fingernails on a chalkboard to these freaks.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:18:48am

Left-handed humour from my wife:

She is knitting brain hats for the Science March (so far three are scheduled in Nebraska: Omaha, Lincoln, and my village).

She tells me, “You know, you’re the best husband I have.”

I respond, “Does that mean I am also the worst husband you have?”

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:19:05am

This also needs to be thrown at Trump (Daily Kos link):

By backing down in a telephone call with China’s president on his promise to review the status of Taiwan, President Trump may have averted a confrontation with America’s most powerful rival.

But in doing so, he handed China a victory and sullied his reputation with its leader, Xi Jinping, as a tough negotiator who ought to be feared, analysts said.

“Trump lost his first fight with Xi and he will be looked at as a paper tiger,” said Shi Yinhong, a professor of international relations at Renmin University of China, in Beijing, and an adviser to China’s State Council. “This will be interpreted in China as a great success, achieved by Xi’s approach of dealing with him.”

Go read the rest of the DK link, because it includes the story that Canada and Chile are meeting with China to negotiate a Pacific trading pack, while Trump attempts to negotiate with one country at a time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:20:29am

re: #232 Belafon

So, that story about the Republican who canceled his meeting because too many people showed up: Well, he attempted to hold the event after saying it was canceled, but Democrats got wind of it, and he really did cancel it after they started showing up and asking questions: dailykos.com.

Here’s another one==>

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:20:38am

re: #232 Belafon

So, that story about the Republican who canceled his meeting because too many people showed up: Well, he attempted to hold the event after saying it was canceled, but Democrats got wind of it, and he really did cancel it after they started showing up and asking questions: dailykos.com.

Well, my own congressman insists he only represents Republicans.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:23:28am

re: #235 Belafon

China’s gonna eat Trump’s lunch.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:24:22am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

China’s gonna eat Trump’s lunch.

They’re going to leave Trump hanging from a chain fence by his underwear.

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:25:08am

Deadspin nails it with some world-class snark: Donald Trump Stunned To Learn Presidency Is An Actual Job, His First

Maybe you’d better sit down for this one. According to a report by Politico, corned-beef dirigible Donald Trump, a skill-free inheritance baby with a virtually unbroken lifelong track record of incompetence and failure, has found that running the United States government is a tougher job than lending his name to mail-order steak delivery scams run by other people. Because he is a world-historically stupid idiot who could not tell the difference between his face and his ass even if they weren’t identical to each other, this has come as quite a shock to him.

“Being president is harder than Donald Trump thought,” begins the article, neatly capturing the blithe, criminal ignorance that characterizes both Trump himself and the many dozens of millions of morons who thought he should be the leader of the free world. Yes, being the president is a harder job than Donald Trump would expect, because Donald Trump had never previously held an actual job, because actually, spending your inheritance on a succession of failed cons is not an actual job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:28:06am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

To date, I cannot find an international response to the decriminalization of Domestic Violence in Russia.

Other than perhaps legislation to emulate it…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:29:15am

re: #206 lawhawk

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That’s because Trump doesn’t read past the headlines. Nor does he expect his supporters to do the same. Attention span of a gnat, and I’m probably offending gnats with that comparison.

nine bullet points per page, remember?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:31:17am
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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:35:07am

With all the rain in California, it’s been welcome as far as ending the years-long drought, but all that rain in one shot also means that the infrastructure designed to impound the runoff and provide drinking water is getting stressed. In one case, there’s a dam in Oroville that’s particularly worrisome.

Erosion has created a 30-foot-deep hole in the concrete spillway of Oroville Dam and state officials say it will continue to grow as officials balance the need to release pressure from the filling reservoir.
State engineers on Thursday cautiously released water from Lake Oroville’s damaged spillway as the reservoir level climbed amid a soaking of rain.
“Efforts are being made to release the needed amount of water to avoid use of the Emergency Spillway. It is expected for more erosion to occur on the spillway due to the water release,” the Butte County Sheriff’s Office wrote in a Facebook post accompanied by video of 35,000 cubic feet per second being released from the damaged spillway. Much of that water appeared to be passing through the gash in the structure and pouring over the surrounding hillside.

They’re not talking about a dam collapse, but they’re doing everything possible to reduce the height of the reservoir behind it - to reduce the stress on the dam. That means even considering using the emergency spillway (which is unlined), which they may have to do if the damage to the main one continues, and to keep up with the inflow into the reservoir which is running at 121,000 cfm.

Damage to the spillway could potentially undermine the stability of the dam, and would be a massive disaster for all the communities downstream.

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gwangung  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:35:24am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

China’s gonna eat Trump’s lunch.

This should be passed around. Being a weak old man runs against his image of being tough guy with his base.

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Donkey With No Name  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:36:37am

The Washington Post has something to say about healthcare in Idaho.

The Gluchs had hoped it wouldn’t come to this — a car or a tooth — when former president Barack Obama announced his health-care plan years ago. But then Idaho chose not to expand Medicaid, as the law allowed, and then Idahoans chose not to come up with their own plan, even though state leaders keep trying.

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:37:14am

re: #209 Birth Control Works

White Genocide propaganda is a new level of extra

Because history started yesterday, and colonialism and slavery never existed…

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:37:16am

re: #245 gwangung

This should be passed around. Being a weak old man runs against his image of being tough guy with his base.

When I can get on Twitter, there will be a few “China thinks you’re a paper tiger, Trump” tweets.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:39:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:40:32am

Chris Cilizza wrote this. CHRIS “I FELLATE TRUMP DAILY” CILIZZA.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:42:44am

You know how “Black Lives Matter” is short for “Black Lives Matter as Much as All Other Lives”? Well, maybe Trumps “Make America Great Again” is just short for “The Next President Will Have to Make America Great Again.”

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stpaulbear  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:45:00am

re: #208 Belafon

Considering Republicans are having meetings about their safety over people showing up in their office over the ACA, having full town halls about it, and cancelling town halls to avoid talking about it, it sounds like a few of the Republicans are getting worried about what will happen if changes start occurring.

Michele Bachmann’s replacement, Tom Emmer, is having a town hall in St. Cloud MN in a couple of weeks. St. Cloud has a bit of a reputation for racist bullshit despite/because of a growing diversity (and its a college town) so I’m really interested in how it’s going to go. Who knows what other insanity the republican-controlled congress will have introduced by then. I really hope his town hall blows up in his face over healthcare, SS/Medicare/Medicaid and Trump’s corruption.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:46:59am

re: #253 stpaulbear

Michele Bachmann’s replacement, Tom Emmer, is having a town hall in St. Cloud MN in a couple of weeks. St. Cloud has a bit of a reputation for racist bullshit despite/because of a growing diversity (and its a college town) so I’m really interested in how it’s going to go. Who knows what other insanity the republican-controlled congress will have introduced by then. I really hope his town hall blows up in his face over healthcare, SS/Medicare/Medicaid and Trump’s corruption.

He’s my rep. I gotta go to St. Cloud for a town hall? That’s really annoying.

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BeachDem  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:47:34am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

Chris Cilizza wrote this. CHRIS “I FELLATE TRUMP DAILY” CILIZZA.

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But of course, had to include:

President Obama famously disdained cable news and actively sought to avoid it — a decision that led some of his critics to cast him as aloof and out of touch.

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(alpuz)  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:48:01am

re: #253 stpaulbear

Just wanted to thank you for mentioning The Current. I stream it all the time. So Thanks!

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:49:25am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

To date, I cannot find an international response to the decriminalization of Domestic Violence in Russia.

The United Kingdom has:
gov.uk

Baroness Anelay, Foreign and Commonwealth Office Minister for Human Rights and the Prime Minister’s Special Representative for Preventing Sexual Violence in Conflict said:

It is deeply disappointing that Russia has introduced new legislation decriminalising domestic violence. This sends the wrong message about the Russian authorities’ commitment to tackling violence in the home. Victims of domestic violence, which are most often women and children, need more protection, not less.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:56:12am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 8:57:49am

re: #258 Anymouse

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Lying to the FBI is an automatic federal offense, ask Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:02:26am

re: #258 Anymouse

So does this mean he can be removed from his post?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:02:49am

Nomination got pulled because Abrams had criticized Trump during the campaign.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:04:14am

Thread needs moar cute:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:05:32am

We need #TheResistance because of assholes like this==>

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:06:07am

re: #258 Anymouse

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Wow, Randi Rhodes. There’s a name I haven’t seen in a minute. Wonder how she’s doing…I used to talk to her quite a bit.

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scottslemmons  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:07:00am

re: #261 Timothy Watson

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Nomination got pulled because Abrams had criticized Trump during the campaign.

Not that I’d want Abrams back in a position of power, but this should be so depressing for Republicans. No one can get in this White House unless they’ve genuflected shamelessly before the Trump. Elliot Abrams and Mitt Romney aren’t good enough, but any demented halfwit with an all-caps blog can get the thumbs-up with a large enough redcap collection…

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:07:05am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

So does this mean he can be removed from his post?

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Lying to the FBI is an automatic federal offense, ask Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart.

James Comey, Jeff Sessions has to prosecute, I’m guessing no. IOKIYAR

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HappyWarrior  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:07:30am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

We need #TheResistance because of assholes like this==>

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Sigh. So sick of these assholes.

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ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:07:33am

re: #225 makeitstop

But the NYT story says he talked to China at the beginning of the very first sentence.

I think those ‘he can’t read’ allegations are true. There’s really no other explanation.

Hate first, think later. It’s how Trump rolls.

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BeachDem  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:08:33am

re: #261 Timothy Watson

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Nomination got pulled because Abrams had criticized Trump during the campaign.

So did Kellyanne Conway when she was a Cruzette. Not that the yam ever makes any rational sense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:09:47am

Has Trump really gone the whole week without dropping an EO?

Should we be worried?

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Skip Intro  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:10:29am

re: #261 Timothy Watson

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Nomination got pulled because Abrams had criticized Trump during the campaign.

I don’t whether to be happy or sad.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:10:37am

More cute, then back to less serious stuff than guinea pigs.

re: #264 makeitstop

Wow, Randi Rhodes. There’s a name I haven’t seen in a minute. Wonder how she’s doing…I used to talk to her quite a bit.

I was able to listen to her programme for a while on the AM Progressive station in Denver (at 230 miles I could barely pick the station up). Then the station flipped formats to Mexican programming and good by Randy Rhodes.

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:11:57am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

Has Trump really gone the whole week without dropping an EO?

Should we be worried?

I thought he signed a few yesterday, didn’t he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:13:02am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

Has Trump really gone the whole week without dropping an EO?

Should we be worried?

He signed three yesterday.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:14:21am

re: #273 makeitstop

I thought he signed a few yesterday, didn’t he?

Yes, including one that has rather disturbing implications (depending on how you read it) for protests.

whitehouse.gov

Title: Presidential Executive Order on Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Law Enforcement Officers

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Skip Intro  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:15:34am

Second potential Army secretary pulls himself out of the running — citing bad ‘timing’

At this rate Trump is going to run out of Confederates to fill his administration.

rawstory.com

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:16:24am

re: #272 Anymouse

I was able to listen to her programme for a while on the AM Progressive station in Denver (at 230 miles I could barely pick the station up). Then the station flipped formats to Mexican programming and good by Randy Rhodes.

I listened to her and called in to her show for a long time when she was on WJNO in West Palm. When the big blackout hit the Northeast in 2003, her producer called my cell and I ended up doing 20 minutes live with her talking about it.

And I was the first person in New York to get the news that she was joining Air America. She emailed me and let me know the day she found out it was happening.

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stpaulbear  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:16:30am

re: #254 A wild WITHAK appeared!

He’s my rep. I gotta go to St. Cloud for a town hall? That’s really annoying.

Oops I got the location wrong. Here’s how it’s listed on his website:

Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Location: Sartell City Hall
125 Pine Cone Rd N.
Sartell, MN 56377

It might as well be in St. Cloud. It’s just a few miles north.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:17:01am

With all the whigning over Chief Owens’s death, I’m surprised that the White House has not issued a half-staff notice (no I’m not).

Traditionally the flag is not placed at half-staff for a soldier or sailor or Marine lost in combat - it is reserved for high officials of the government or noteworthy citizens and foreign leaders. The Flag Code was changed some years ago to allow state governors to lower it for a military member or veteran who died from their states.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:17:08am

re: #278 stpaulbear

Oops I got the location wrong. Here’s how it’s listed on his website:

Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Location: Sartell City Hall
125 Pine Cone Rd N.
Sartell, MN 56377

Friggin Sartell?!?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:17:16am

re: #266 Anymouse

James Comey, Jeff Sessions has to prosecute, I’m guessing no. IOKIYAR

New motto:

IOKINPY

It’s okay if nobody prosecutes you

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:18:31am

re: #277 makeitstop

I listened to her and called in to her show for a long time when she was on WJNO in West Palm. When the big blackout hit the Northeast in 2003, her producer called my cell and I ended up doing 20 minutes live with her talking about it.

And I was the first person in New York to get the news that she was joining Air America. She emailed me and let me know the day she found out it was happening.

Kewl.

I don’t get progressive talk radio any more - note that the closest station was 230 miles away and they are no more. (Picking out a radio programme from all the static was quite a feat.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:20:15am

re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

New motto:

IOKINPY

It’s okay if nobody prosecutes you

More IOKIYGM

It’s Okay If You’ve Got Money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:21:19am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

More IOKIYGM

It’s Okay If You’ve Got Money.

IOKIYGTRC

It’s okay if you’ve got the right connections

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:21:28am

re: #277 makeitstop

I listened to her and called in to her show for a long time when she was on WJNO in West Palm. When the big blackout hit the Northeast in 2003, her producer called my cell and I ended up doing 20 minutes live with her talking about it.

Fun fact: That Blackout happened on my 22nd Birthday.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:22:17am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: That Blackout happened on my 22nd Birthday.

I’ll bet it wasn’t that fun.

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Henny Penny  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:24:29am

re: #275 Anymouse

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Policy. It shall be the policy of the executive branch to:

(a) enforce all Federal laws in order to enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, and thereby all Americans;

I guess they don’t want a repeat of the Bundy cattle ranch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:26:00am

jeebus, again with the hands fetish

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:26:21am

re: #286 Anymouse

I’ll bet it wasn’t that fun.

It was different for sure. I was in Ottawa at the time just across the river from Quebec. As it happens Quebec runs on a separate power grid from Ontario so they weren’t affected.

Suffice to say all the hotel rooms on the other side of the river booked up real fast. The plus for was that I was able to have a birthday dinner at a still open restaurant there.

I remember driving back home we went the long way through downtown, it was so dark and eerie. Then we got home and ate birthday cake by candlelight.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:26:48am

No conflict-of-interest here. Oh wait, Jason Chaffetz says the President can’t have those.

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stpaulbear  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:28:29am

re: #280 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Friggin Sartell?!?

Wow. I just checked the 6th district map. Sartell is a 90 mile drive from the far south and east portions of the wishbone-shaped district. He’s made it a real pain in the ass for anyone not in the St. Cloud area.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:29:24am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:30:48am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:31:05am

re: #291 stpaulbear

I’m waaay on the east side of the district, so yeah. There’s no good, direct way to get from where I live to Sartell, either.

At least Bachmann pretended to live in Stillwater…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:35:45am

re: #293 Anymouse

U.S. Presidents Do Have Spending Limits for Securing Private Homes

That was something I was wondering about myself.

So at some point Melania has to move in with D or pay for her own security?

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ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:37:48am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

We need #TheResistance because of assholes like this==>

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I went to The Intercept link, saw the article was written by Glenn Greenwald and then slowly backed out looking all around to make sure I got nothing on me.

I have no idea what the article was about…don’t think I care to know other than ‘Democrats bad.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:37:50am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:39:36am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How often has SCOTUS removed a TRO put in place by a district court and upheld by a panel of a Court of Appeals?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:40:05am

LOL…you first Meghan

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:41:31am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL…you first Meghan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:41:39am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:42:25am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was something I was wondering about myself.

So at some point Melania has to move in with D or pay for her own security?

She won’t. New York has a Democratic mayor, so the GOP will be all concerned about budget expenditures and pass off the bill to the City of New York.

There is no way they are going to force one of their own to comply with the law (that would require Jason “the President can’t have a conflict of interest” Chaffetz or AG Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III to force the issue.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:42:42am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

No. He did four the other day.

Executive Order on February 09, 2017
Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice
Executive Order on February 09, 2017
Presidential Executive Order on Enforcing Federal Law with Respect to Transnational Criminal Organizations and Preventing International Trafficking
Executive Order on February 09, 2017
Presidential Executive Order on Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Law Enforcement Officers
Executive Order on February 09, 2017
Presidential Executive Order on a Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety

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gwangung  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:43:10am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was something I was wondering about myself.

So at some point Melania has to move in with D or pay for her own security?

The idiot will try to ignore it, I bet.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:44:15am

re: #304 gwangung

The idiot Republicans will try to ignore it, I bet.

Fixed.

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:44:59am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: That Blackout happened on my 22nd Birthday.

That was some day. My wife and I had bought our house the December before, and when the power went out we thought it was local. It was only when I jumped into the truck to run out and buy some ice that I noticed that most of the NYC area radio stations were off the air. And it was hotter than hell that day.

The one good thing was that night, we took a blanket out into the yard and lay staring at the stars, minus the usual light pollution we get being so close to the city. That was glorious, and we were both kind of sad when the lights started coming back on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:46:23am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:46:48am

A blackout here wouldn’t affect our stargazing much. Stargazing here is always glorious (along with planet watching, Northern Lights, &c).

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Stanley Sea  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:47:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:47:54am

Pres. Trump and Japanese PM Abe meet, shake hands in the Oval Office cbsn.ws

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:50:40am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Abe seems barely tolerant of Trump. “Look at me.”

Honest Abe?

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sagehen  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:50:42am

re: #246 gocart mozart

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NWA & Eazy-E - dope man

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Citizen K  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:51:12am

re: #211 Anymouse

whitegenocideproject (dot) com? Who are all these deluded people in our country?

The same as thought Irish and Poles were “not white” some years ago I guess. The same that don’t seem to know how many Hispanics are white.

Pearl-clutchers, the lot of them. Afraid of everything.

And Jews are still in that nebulous zone of ‘white when convenient’. YOu know, until it’s time to bring out the blood libel because they keep voting Democratic.

re: #290 Anymouse

No conflict-of-interest here. Oh wait, Jason Chaffetz says the President can’t have those.

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I have no idea whether he or Chaffetz wins out in the most punchable face contest. He looks like he’s a Patrick Bateman fanboy. I honestly wonder if he has a bone business card with a watermark.

re: #300 Timothy Watson

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Apparently, losing an election is grounds for being ostracized from all things and being forcibly shut up for all eternity*.

Disclaimer: Only valid for Democratic politicians. Republican politicians receive extra credibility points upon losing elections (only valid when exchanged at resident talking head desk)

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:52:16am

re: #308 Anymouse

A blackout here wouldn’t affect our stargazing much. Stargazing here is always glorious (along with planet watching, Northern Lights, &c).

We go out to the East End of LI every so often, to the Custer Observatory in Southold. It’s tucked down on the South Shore, about as far away from light sources as you can get out here. You can actually see a lot more stars than we get to see here, being only about 35 miles out from NYC.

And they taught us how to use my telescope. It was very cool that an employee took about a half hour to give us a lesson, and we’ve been contributors since then.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:54:36am

The sound of butthurt echoes through the White House and he calls his staffers in to demand they come up with a solution, the final one, to address the Muslim menace. Bannon will tolerate no more delays. Trump cannot be stopped, and his rampages are becoming all the more irrational as he has sleepless nights and spends his waking moments scrutinizing twitter and his press secretary’s pretzel logic acrobatics at his daily briefings.

—-

Flynn not only stepped in it in a serious way, but the WH doesn’t quite realize the shit show they’ve got on their hands. This isn’t something they can simply make go away. Flynn was caught on tape talking sanctions with the Russians. There’s a baseball team’s worth of sources confirming this. Yet Trump and Pence are both denying wrongdoing.

This isn’t good for either of them - or the nation.

This already reeks of a coverup, and the lid’s being blown off by those in the know because they’re willing to put country ahead of all else. Trump relies on Flynn who is advocating the Russians’ position on foreign policy (and economic policy). Other Trump aides likewise have Russian ties - going all the way back to the campaign. None of this is new, but the media glossed over all those ties during the campaign, even though that should have been examined as closely as those emails were.

Manafort. Flynn. And a host of others in the cabal of cronies have ties to the Russians, and when Trump pushes policies favorable to Russia at the expense of the US, there’s reason to worry who’s pulling the strings and why.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:56:35am

Heh.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:58:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 9:58:11am

Meanwhile in Eastern District Court in Virginia:

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:00:46am

re: #315 lawhawk

It’s okay if you’re a Republican.

Which of those shining examples of patriotism and party first do you think will either bring a XXV Amendment or Impeachment bill?

For the XXV Amendment the VP and four cabinet officials have to bring it. Trump can simply declare he is fit to the House and that’s that.

For impeachment, the GOP has the majority, and if the Dems bring it, it will look like partisanship to the voters. The GOP must bring it, and they won’t: They have to get their granny starver and child starver bills, their kill the sick bills, and other things through first.

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Interesting Times  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:02:02am

Melissa McCarthy has so much material, she’s going to get sick of having material, believe me:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:03:24am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:04:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:05:39am
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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:05:54am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brinkema has a long history of dealing with terrorism related cases. She presided over the Moussaoui case, among others, and gave a withering address to him at the sentencing.

Wont stop Bannon/Trump from trying to impugn her and her credibility, all while the Admin has shown a complete inability to rally any evidence to support any of their claims in court.

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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:09:25am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Evidence”?? I’m surprised the Govt. lawyers don’t just enter a Presidential tweet:

BECAUSE MUSLIMS!!!11!!!1!
MUSLIMS ARE EEEEVIL!!1!1!!

How much more “evidence” do they need? Besides “Donald Trump says so” that is.…?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:12:18am

re: #324 lawhawk

re: #325 Jay C

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:13:51am
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stpaulbear  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:14:05am

Via BJ. I do wonder about the advice to not contact legislators other than your own. I feel like the House and Senate leaders should be game for calls or letters. Maybe they just toss any input from outside of their district, but they are setting goals and policy for the entire country. Ryan and McConnell are impossible to contact at any rate.

Barney Frank: Here’s how to not waste your time pressuring lawmakers

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Stanley Sea  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:15:55am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He is so fucking weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:18:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:20:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:21:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:22:43am
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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:23:19am

re: #328 stpaulbear

Barney Frank: Here’s how to not waste your time pressuring lawmakers

Barney Frank is a national treasure - and quite right about this stuff. I especially liked this bit:

“Pressure,” in legislative jargon, is the expression of views with which legislators disagree, as opposed to “public opinion” — the term used for sentiments that reinforce their own.

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:24:09am

Shinzo Abe grabbed like Donald grabs……

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:25:12am

Read this face……

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:26:15am

re: #336 nines09

LOL Abe’s facial expression is pretty universal.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:26:50am

re: #335 nines09

Shinzo Abe grabbed like Donald grabs……

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Abe has probably had to deal with hundreds (thousands?) of assholes like Trump who like to play the same stupid games.

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:27:41am

re: #337 Dr Lizardo

LOL Abe’s facial expression is pretty universal.

I think he just discovered what most of us was saying was universally true. What an embarrassment.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:27:47am

re: #337 Dr Lizardo

He needs a thought balloon with “馬鹿ね”

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:28:00am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

Abe has probably had to deal with hundreds (thousands?) of assholes like Trump who like to play the same stupid games.

But not one of them was a POTUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:29:05am

re: #336 nines09

quite the obvious spare tire showing on trump…

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Stanley Sea  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:30:17am
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Stanley Sea  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:30:32am

Trump welcomes Japanese prime minister to “the very famous White House.”

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:30:39am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

quite the obvious spare tire showing on trump…

I say pack a few more on and go shovel heavy snow.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:31:34am

So it seems that RWNJs are running with the “9th Circuit Court of Appeals has 80% of its cases overturned. I came across this and think that’s where they are getting the number from. Am I wrong in thinking that they are cherry picking and not reading the tables correctly, i.e., taking into account the sheer number of cases the 9th Circuit Court deals with versus the small number that go before the SCOTUS?

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I cannot.  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:32:12am
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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:32:26am

For years, GOP complained Obama wasn’t a friend of Israel, and that Obama’s statements regarding Israel’s settlement policy showed he was an enemy to the Jews and Israel.

Today: Trump says settlements bad for peace prior to meeting PM.

This is the same line the US has taken with Israel for years. It’s not some new policy, but when Obama carried on the same policy, the GOP attacked him for it. Now? Crickets.

IOKIYAR

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:33:54am

Anyone want to explain this Executive Order to me (or more specifically, why)?

whitehouse.gov

Providing an Order of Succession for the Department of Justice

(Okay, I can see why that might be necessary, but this part is a head scratcher):

Section 1. Order of Succession. Subject to the provisions of section 2 of this order, the following officers, in the order listed, shall act as and perform the functions and duties of the office of Attorney General during any period in which the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, and any officers designated by the Attorney General pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 508 to act as Attorney General, have died, resigned, or otherwise become unable to perform the functions and duties of the office of Attorney General, until such time as at least one of the officers mentioned above is able to perform the functions and duties of that office:

(a) United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia;

(b) United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois; and

(c) United States Attorney for the Western District of Missouri.

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nines09  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:36:36am

Just put yourself into Mr. Abe’s position. If I got a handshake like that from anyone, I would be creeped the eff out. The hand patting along with the yanking is pure ownership action. You my boy. FFS he’s ill.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:36:41am

re: #349 Anymouse

Anyone want to explain this Executive Order to me (or more specifically, why)?

whitehouse.gov

Providing an Order of Succession for the Department of Justice

(Okay, I can see why that might be necessary, but this part is a head scratcher):

Related to the Yates resignation. Puts some yesmen in place as successors.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:39:19am

re: #346 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

So it seems that RWNJs are running with the “9th Circuit Court of Appeals has 80% of its cases overturned. I came across this and think that’s where they are getting the number from. Am I wrong in thinking that they are cherry picking and not reading the tables correctly, i.e., taking into account the sheer number of cases the 9th Circuit Court deals with versus the small number that go before the SCOTUS?

That’s probably where they’re getting it from. The 9th has a bigger caseload than other circuits, but it doesn’t necessarily capture whether they’re overturned on a conservative/liberal bias. It’s an assumption they’re more liberal than the Supreme Court, but that’s not evident from the data in that article. SCOTUSBLOG has an interesting and nuanced (more accurate IMO) take.

The high number of cases compared to most of the circuits leads to more requests to review (cert), with the Supreme Court looking to address circuit splits.

The high volume of cases and the high reversal rate have long fueled the image that the Ninth Circuit is often out of step with the Supreme Court. Implicit in this critique is that the Ninth Circuit is more liberal than the increasingly conservative Supreme Court. While this may sometimes be true, the record is not always explainable in such terms. Consider one recent example: by a vote of eight to zero, the Justices reversed the Ninth Circuit decision in POM Wonderful LLC v. Coca-Cola Co.; in doing so, they rejected not only the lower court’s resolution of two conflicting statutes, but also the Justice Department’s view. The Ninth Circuit opinion which was reversed was written by Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain, an appointee of President Reagan, and was joined by Judge N. Randy Smith, an appointee of President George W. Bush, and Judge Dorothy Nelson, who was appointed by President Carter. The case counts in the reversal column but is hardly an example of an ideological rift between the circuit and the Supreme Court.

Reversals of the Ninth Circuit that resolve circuit splits may also be difficult to count properly in the total record of the circuits, as a new article by University of Houston law professor Aaron-Andrew P. Bruhl suggests. It is sometimes the case for the Ninth Circuit and for others that a reversal in a circuit split counts as a negative for that circuit but not for other circuits whose decisions may also be effectively overruled by the Supreme Court’s resolution. Conversely, it’s possible that the Supreme Court could indirectly affirm a holding by the Ninth Circuit - by, for example, reaching the same conclusion as the Ninth Circuit in a case originating from some other circuit - but the Ninth Circuit would not get “credit” for that result in most statistics that track the resolution of circuit splits.

Still, it is hard to ignore the sheer volume of cases and reversals that involve the Ninth Circuit.

There are other patterns that emerge in the four-year statistics for the Court’s decisions. The poorest records, albeit based on much less volume, belong to the Eighth and Sixth Circuits. With only eight cases reviewed, the Eighth Circuit was reversed 87.5% of the time - only one case was affirmed. The Sixth Circuit was reversed 87% of the time with three affirmances and twenty reversals. In each of the last four Terms, both of those courts stayed above the average reversal rate of 79.5%. Here, too, though, it would be hard to attribute the differences between the Court and the circuits to anything more than different approaches to often complex issues.

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Jay C  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:40:12am

re: #349 Anymouse

Anyone want to explain this Executive Order to me (or more specifically, why)?

whitehouse.gov

Providing an Order of Succession for the Department of Justice

(Okay, I can see why that might be necessary, but this part is a head scratcher):

HUH?

I can understand wanting to provide for some sort of institutional continuity at DoJ in case all the relevant Department officials are somehow-or-other unable to fulfill the job (Has Donald been watching “Designated Survivor” again?), but why those particular US Attys? Cronies? Somebody’s relatives? Positions picked out of a hat??

ETA: re: #351 Timothy Watson

Aha. Seems right.

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I cannot.  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:41:10am

re: #349 Anymouse

The only explanations I can come up those specific US attorneys to fill in require more tinfoil to contemplate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:43:31am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

Karma is a bitch, isn’t it?

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:44:45am

re: #353 Jay C

HUH?

I can understand wanting to provide for some sort of institutional continuity at DoJ in case all the relevant Department officials are somehow-or-other unable to fulfill the job (Has Donald been watching “Designated Survivor” again?), but why those particular US Attys? Cronies? Somebody’s relatives? Positions picked out of a hat??

Wonkette comments argue patronage.

The Virginia AG came out in favour of the Muslim travel ban.
The Missouri guy is an activist Republican.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:46:41am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:48:44am

re: #353 Jay C

HUH?

I can understand wanting to provide for some sort of institutional continuity at DoJ in case all the relevant Department officials are somehow-or-other unable to fulfill the job (Has Donald been watching “Designated Survivor” again?), but why those particular US Attys? Cronies? Somebody’s relatives? Positions picked out of a hat??

EDVA - Dana J. Boente
NDIL - Zachary T. Fardon
WDMO - Tammy Dickinson

Boente was acting AG after he dismissed Sally Yates. Some of this I think is because whoever is advising him is picking these people. Fardon was actually worried that Trump would replace him.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:49:26am

Maybe our local tank experts could identify the manufacturer.

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Skip Intro  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:50:20am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:51:18am

Folk around the Internet are bashing Republicans holding telephonic town halls over in-person town halls (claiming they are cowards).

I don’t know about more populous states, but here, where outside Omaha, Lincoln, and South Sioux City, the state’s population density is very low (but the majority of the state lives in the rural areas not the cities). Telephonic town halls make sense to gather together the voters.

That said, I am signed up for both my senators’ and my representative’s telephonic town halls, and it is amazing how fast I get cut off after I phone in. It’s almost as if they check names or something against the voter roles, see Democrat, and cut the call off.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:53:19am

re: #359 jaunte

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Maybe our local tank experts could identify the manufacturer.

LOL: Ideal Toy Company I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:54:29am

re: #360 Skip Intro

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hahahahahahaaaaa

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:55:17am

re: #352 lawhawk

That’s probably where they’re getting it from. The 9th has a bigger caseload than other circuits, but it doesn’t necessarily capture whether they’re overturned on a conservative/liberal bias. It’s an assumption they’re more liberal than the Supreme Court, but that’s not evident from the data in that article. SCOTUSBLOG has an interesting and nuanced (more accurate IMO) take.

The high number of cases compared to most of the circuits leads to more requests to review (cert), with the Supreme Court looking to address circuit splits.

If they think SCOTUS is going to reverse the 9th Circuit on the TRO, they have a nasty surprise coming.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:56:48am

re: #364 Big Beautiful Door

If they think SCOTUS is going to reverse the 9th Circuit on the TRO, they have a nasty surprise coming.

Yeah, and then they’ll all be screaming about TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!!! or some horseshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:57:02am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:57:40am

re: #352 lawhawk

Thank you!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:58:22am

re: #335 nines09

Shinzo Abe grabbed like Donald grabs……

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FFS

What is with the little “hand pats” in during the marathon handshake?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:59:37am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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translators must have been tearing out their hair trying to make sense of anything trump said.

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:59:38am

re: #364 Big Beautiful Door

That’s probably why they’re supposedly crafting a court-proof EO that does the same thing.

That’s the problem with all this, and Bannon/Trump strategy. They’ve telegraphed it and spoken about what they want to do, that the EO they’re crafting is an attempt to implement what they’re say.

Intent counts for quite a bit. Law in fact and law as applied. Both get considered, especially when you’re questioning whether it violates due process or equal protection or other constitutional grounds. So, if Bannon/Trump comes out with a new EO to replace this one, it’ll be met with the same exact kind of scrutiny the first one did.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2017 • 10:59:53am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

FFS

What is with the little “hand pats” in during the marathon handshake?

“I control your appendage, but don’t worry too much because I am friendly… FOR NOW.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:00:31am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

quite the obvious spare tire showing on trump…

And then he has to do that “thumbs up” gesture displaying his bent, misshapen opposible digits. Does he think this was a “Thumb War” that he won?

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lawhawk  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:01:38am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a power play. Everything Trump does is about being a bully. The handshake is a bully move.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:03:15am
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wrenchwench  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:04:15am

This isn’t my biggest problem, but sometimes it feels like a big one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:04:35am

re: #370 lawhawk

That’s probably why they’re supposedly crafting a court-proof EO that does the same thing.

That’s the problem with all this, and Bannon/Trump strategy. They’ve telegraphed it and spoken about what they want to do, that the EO they’re crafting is an attempt to implement what they’re say.

Intent counts for quite a bit. Law in fact and law as applied. Both get considered, especially when you’re questioning whether it violates due process or equal protection or other constitutional grounds. So, if Bannon/Trump comes out with a new EO to replace this one, it’ll be met with the same exact kind of scrutiny the first one did.

Their incompetence does help blunt their evil somewhat.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:05:26am
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jaunte  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:05:47am
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:05:57am

re: #373 lawhawk

It’s a power play. Everything Trump does is about being a bully. The handshake is a bully move.

It’s obvious Trump was told as a kid, as a lot of people were, that you can tell a lot about a person by how firm the hand shake is. And his dad probably crushed his hand a number of times to prove a point.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:06:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:06:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:08:14am

re: #360 Skip Intro

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She used to go there for health care, so she knows the system.

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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:11:28am

re: #375 wrenchwench

This isn’t my biggest problem, but sometimes it feels like a big one.

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wrenchwench  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:12:05am

re: #376 Big Beautiful Door

Their incompetence does help blunt their evil somewhat.

Blunt evil may be less deadly, but it hurts as much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:13:20am
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Anymouse  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:14:27am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously? Did the country elect a pillow for president?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:14:40am

re: #361 Anymouse

Folk around the Internet are bashing Republicans holding telephonic town halls over in-person town halls (claiming they are cowards).

I don’t know about more populous states, but here, where outside Omaha, Lincoln, and South Sioux City, the state’s population density is very low (but the majority of the state lives in the rural areas not the cities). Telephonic town halls make sense to gather together the voters.

That said, I am signed up for both my senators’ and my representative’s telephonic town halls, and it is amazing how fast I get cut off after I phone in. It’s almost as if they check names or something against the voter roles, see Democrat, and cut the call off.

even before you ask anything?

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wrenchwench  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:14:57am

re: #383 Anymouse

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:21:01am

re: #88 Alyosha

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Donkey With No Name  Feb 10, 2017 • 11:21:23am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, that has to be one of the most uncomfortable interactions I’ve ever seen - Abe’s body language is all GET ME OUT OF HERE!

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gocart mozart  Feb 10, 2017 • 2:39:30pm

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