Coverup: 4 Days Ago, Trump Said He Was Unaware of Flynn’s Russia Problem. He Lied.

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Four days ago, when he was asked about the breaking reports that his National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador before the inauguration, Donald Trump denied knowing anything about it.

When asked about the reports, Trump said, “I don’t know about that. I haven’t seen it. What report is that? I haven’t seen that. I’ll look into that.”

But today in his latest press confrontation, White House press secretary Baghdad Sean Spicer admitted Trump has been aware of this situation since January 26.

Then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates told the White House that Flynn may have misled members of Trump’s administration about the contents of his call with the ambassador on Jan. 26, Spicer confirmed Tuesday.

Eighteen days after the White House learned Flynn had misled them, Flynn resigned on Feb. 13.

“He was made aware of it — once White House counsel briefed him on concerns the Department of Justice had,” Spicer continued. “And at that point, as I mentioned, what he asked and what he believed at the time and was confirmed by White House counsel, was that there was no legal issue here. Discussing the issue didn’t violate anything. It was appropriate in the normal course of action to discuss that. He immediately asked the White House counsel to further confirm what his instincts were at the time.”

Do these people even realize how transparent and obvious their lies are?

Spicer then proceeded to make it clear that the Trump gang has no intention of investigating this any further.

Spicer went on to say that, “as far as we are aware, that is an isolated incident,” after being asked if the White House would undertake an effort to clarify if anyone else had spoken about sanctions with Russia.

And this means the Congress must act and call for full investigations into this disturbing issue, because when Trump’s mouthpieces are so desperate to pretend it’s all over and done like this, that means there’s obviously more to be discovered.

(h/t: goddamnedfrank.)

UPDATE at 2/14/17 12:11:23 pm by Charles Johnson

And now there’s even more evidence of a coverup. The New York Times reports that Flynn was interviewed by the FBI about this issue in the early days of Trump’s administration. It simply doesn’t pass the smell test to suggest Trump didn’t know about this until January 26.

WASHINGTON — F.B.I. agents interviewed Michael T. Flynn when he was national security adviser in the first days of the Trump administration about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, current and former officials said on Tuesday.

The interview raises the stakes of what so far has been a political scandal that cost Mr. Flynn his job. If he was not entirely honest with the F.B.I., it could expose Mr. Flynn to a felony charge. President Trump asked for Mr. Flynn’s resignation on Monday night.

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192 comments

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:04:27pm

Still applies

and I still love her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:05:44pm

The problem is congress is largely useless since the GOP controls both chambers.

There will either be a half assed “investigation” that finds no wrongdoing or no investigation at all.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:06:15pm

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:06:43pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is congress is largely useless since the GOP controls both chambers.

There will either be a half assed “investigation” that finds no wrongdoing or no investigation at all.

Or an investigation to find the leak.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:06:56pm

It’s not just the crime. It’s the coverup.

And it’s not like any of this wasn’t telegraphed months ago, as everyone in Trump’s inner circle seemingly has ties to Russia, including Trump himself.

Do any of these people think that we aren’t paying attention, or do they think that their statements sound reasonable once they’re translated from the original Cyrillic?

Trump’s Russia connections go far beyond his own, let alone Flynn, and include Manafort, Stone, and Tillerson (among others) that we know of for now.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:07:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:07:58pm

good fucking grief…go back to yelling at clouds, old man.

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Interesting Times  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:09:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:10:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:11:31pm

And now there’s even more evidence of a coverup. The New York Times reports that Flynn was interviewed by the FBI about this issue in the early days of Trump’s administration. And it simply doesn’t pass the smell test to suggest Trump didn’t know about this.

WASHINGTON — F.B.I. agents interviewed Michael T. Flynn when he was national security adviser in the first days of the Trump administration about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, current and former officials said on Tuesday.

The interview raises the stakes of what so far has been a political scandal that cost Mr. Flynn his job. If he was not entirely honest with the F.B.I., it could expose Mr. Flynn to a felony charge. President Trump asked for Mr. Flynn’s resignation on Monday night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:11:38pm

Bibi meets with the yam tomorrow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:11:44pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like a 5 year old asking “are we there yet?”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:12:45pm

The really galling thing about this is that we’ve become so inured to the rank dishonesty surrounding Trump’s administration that nobody will press the President over this flagrant attempt to obfuscate and deceive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:12:53pm

I am in need of a cuteness break:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:13:01pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

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Would those be limericks or haikus or neither?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:13:23pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

And now there’s even more evidence of a coverup. The New York Times reports that Flynn was interviewed by the FBI about this issue in the early days of Trump’s administration. And it simply doesn’t pass the smell test to suggest Trump didn’t know about this.

But the lazy/stupid White House press corp wouldn’t ask Spicer about the FBI interview.

*sigh*

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:13:27pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s senile af.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:13:56pm

Cuomo: Why is GOP so quiet on Flynn? Rep. Chris Collins: “Well, it’s Valentine’s Day and I guess they’re having breakfast with their wives”

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:14:02pm
“He was made aware of it — once White House counsel briefed him on concerns the Department of Justice had,” Spicer continued. “And at that point, as I mentioned, what he asked and what he believed at the time and was confirmed by White House counsel, was that there was no legal issue here. Discussing the issue didn’t violate anything. It was appropriate in the normal course of action to discuss that. He immediately asked the White House counsel to further confirm what his instincts were at the time.”

So according to Baghdad Spicer, when the DOJ informed the White House that they had reason to believe that his top intelligence man had been compromised by a foreign gov’t and had been in active communication with them, Der Trumpenfuhrer’s first concern was if a crime had occurred. Then he personally decided that no crime had been committed, his counsel agreed with him, and he considered the matter closed.

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:14:32pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

I’ll call your fat ass and raise you a flyaway dreamcicle.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:14:33pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh huh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:14:52pm

I wonder if Trump will try to get off work for his birthday.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:15:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:15:27pm

re: #20 MsJ

I’ll call your fat ass and raise you a flyaway dreamcicle.

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He really is a most ugly person. I mean this is one of those cases of what’s on the inside is what’s on the outside.

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:16:03pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:16:12pm

re: #20 MsJ

And wearing a skinny belt. Makes him look like an overstuffed sausage tied around the middle.

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Franklin  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:16:55pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cuomo: Why is GOP so quiet on Flynn? Rep. Chris Collins: “Well, it’s Valentine’s Day and I guess they’re having breakfast with their wives”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:17:08pm

re: #26 Dr Lizardo

And wearing a skinny belt. Makes him look like an overstuffed sausage tied around the middle.

He looks like a cartoon character.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:18:02pm

re: #20 MsJ

I’ll call your fat ass and raise you a flyaway dreamcicle.

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Just saw a fourth thing to love about that photo: the skinny part of the tie is halfway shorter that the penis pointer end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:18:46pm
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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:19:30pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Enabling corrupt practices. Because of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:19:56pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buy your Exxon shares…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:20:41pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s really draining the swamp right there. //

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:20:41pm

re: #26 Dr Lizardo

And wearing a skinny belt. Makes him look like an overstuffed sausage tied around the middle.

Every single thing about him is grotesque. Inside, outside and peripherally.

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weave  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:20:43pm

Look everyone, O’Reilly is claiming on Fox News that Obama deported a RECORD NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS while in office — “IN ALL OF HISTORY.”

insider.foxnews.com

Ah — remember when Fox used to go on and on about how Obama was refusing to enforce existing immigration laws. Like this gem from 2013….

foxnews.com

…. and he talks about hypocrisy…

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:22:26pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, very soon we will have the joy of taking away health care from people. Make America Uninsured Again.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:23:25pm

re: #35 weave

Look everyone, O’Reilly is claiming on Fox News that Obama deported a RECORD NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS while in office — “IN ALL OF HISTORY.”

insider.foxnews.com

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Ah — remember when Fox used to go on and on about how Obama was refusing to enforce existing immigration laws. Like this gem from 2013….

foxnews.com

…. and he talks about hypocrisy…

But, but….we’re being flooded with illegals, all the RWNJ say so.

/

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:23:33pm
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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:23:59pm

re: #35 weave

But 700 illegal aliens were arrested this week, which means Trump is showing that he means business - an annualized rate of 36,400.

*snort*

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:24:00pm

Mental health professionals are defying the Goldwater Rule and coming forward because a Trump is now exhibiting increasing signs of megalomania and incipient violence: nytimes.com

Mr. Trump’s speech and actions demonstrate an inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions. His words and behavior suggest a profound inability to empathize. Individuals with these traits distort reality to suit their psychological state, attacking facts and those who convey them (journalists, scientists).

In a powerful leader, these attacks are likely to increase, as his personal myth of greatness appears to be confirmed. We believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:24:31pm

re: #38 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:24:32pm

re: #35 weave

Look everyone, O’Reilly is claiming on Fox News that Obama deported a RECORD NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS while in office — “IN ALL OF HISTORY.”

insider.foxnews.com

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Ah — remember when Fox used to go on and on about how Obama was refusing to enforce existing immigration laws. Like this gem from 2013….

foxnews.com

…. and he talks about hypocrisy…

He’s a fucking hack. I wish they would just remove his spouse abusing ass already. But then again, it’s probably considered a good thing to Rupert if you hit your wife at his dump.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:26:15pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:27:04pm

re: #35 weave

Look everyone, O’Reilly is claiming on Fox News that Obama deported a RECORD NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS while in office — “IN ALL OF HISTORY.”

insider.foxnews.com

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Ah — remember when Fox used to go on and on about how Obama was refusing to enforce existing immigration laws. Like this gem from 2013….

foxnews.com

…. and he talks about hypocrisy…

Wait a minute. Didn’t Obama open the borders to let millions of welfare moochers and terrorists swarm into the country? Why do they keep changing the narrative?/

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:27:06pm
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nines09  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:28:48pm

re: #5 lawhawk

It’s not just the crime. It’s the coverup.

And it’s not like any of this wasn’t telegraphed months ago, as everyone in Trump’s inner circle seemingly has ties to Russia, including Trump himself.

Do any of these people think that we aren’t paying attention, or do they think that their statements sound reasonable once they’re translated from the original Cyrillic?

Trump’s Russia connections go far beyond his own, let alone Flynn, and include Manafort, Stone, and Tillerson (among others) that we know of for now.

The bigger question is why do the Republicans sit idly by? Every other day or so one chirps up, seems to want to say something then it’s like they remember they are a Republican and fall back in line. Can they be that corrupt that they actually see no harm? Or are they that corrupt to be willing to burn the house down to hold the ashes as their own? I know what I think. And in my little corner of the world, the blindness continues. It’s all the media. And the Democrats are mean. And on and on. Sitting in front of Fox news really is a brainwash. Propaganda works. My anger has leveled off a bit, but JFC these people are just unwilling to think any other way. Incapable of admitting that maybe, just maybe, they were duped. Not big enough for that it seems.

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weave  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:29:25pm

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

Wait a minute. Didn’t Obama open the borders to let millions of welfare moochers and terrorists swarm into the country? Why do they keep changing the narrative?/

I miss Jon Stewart constantly calling him out on his bullshit.

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:30:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:32:29pm

re: #48 Kragar

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Her and Flynn should get a room and reminisce about how Putin made them feel special. Fuck Stein and her fake concern for human rights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:32:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:33:03pm

re: #38 Kragar

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Thakns dude. I had to post this on my FB. This is personal to me being on the spectrum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:33:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:34:31pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why not, we have President Trump now. Why not Senator Kid Rock. At least Franken showed he knew a thing about politics. Of course, the conservatives who want liberal celebs to shut up and perform will probably love this.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:34:56pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Convenient.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:36:12pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:36:16pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

who was the someone else?

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:36:36pm

re: #48 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:37:05pm

I don’t even recongize our government anymore. We have a protege of a fucking Neo-Nazi scumbag as a key adviser. We have an editor of a Stormfront wannabe website (Breitbart) with the President’s ear on key issues. And tons of crooked corporate cronies. But hey those people in real America sure showed us elites didn’t they!

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:37:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:37:28pm

re: #58 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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She’s fine with that. She doesn’t care.

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nines09  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:37:37pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:38:55pm

“Jeff Sessions should recuse himself and put an independent investigative authority in charge,” Sen. Schumer says: cbsn.ws

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:38:59pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:40:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:41:35pm
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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:41:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:42:41pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

The racist swine Conway retweeted (everybody knows it was her, right?) is currently freaking out about being identified as a white supremacist, even though it couldn’t be more obvious.

@TrumpTrainNoBrk

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:43:29pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:44:23pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:44:27pm

re: #67 Kragar

Execute Order 66

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Jack Burton  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:45:22pm

re: #67 Kragar

Order 65 would be more appropriate. It was the “remove the Supreme Chancellor from office and arrest him” order.

I don’t know if that’s canon though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:45:32pm

re: #69 Kragar

Rand Paul says a Flynn investigation “makes no sense” because he is a member of the controlling party

He speaks a degree of truth, just as it would have been senseless to hold a trial for suspected perpetrators of a lynching in the old Deep South…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:46:37pm
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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:47:49pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

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Stanley Sea  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:47:54pm
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Jay C  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:48:44pm

re: #48 Kragar

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In addition to being just a general waste of space, Dr. Jill Stein, IMO, is also wrong about the prospects for war with Iran for a number of reasons:
1. Michael Flynn wasn’t the only Iran hawk in the new Administration.
2. Said other “hawks” are still there.
3. There is no sign at all that the Trump Administration is going to shift
its policy of making Iran the Designated Evil Enemy for all foreign- policy purposes.
4. Jill Stein is still Jill Stein, and so generally wrong about most everything.

My own theory is that Trump and his creatures are probably planning some sort of military “action” against Iran pretty much solely to try to get the population to “rally ‘round the Flag” - a la GW Bush in 2003; i.e. a source of campaign commercials, an opportunity to bash opponents as lily-livered disloyal peaceniks, and/or an excuse for some sort of domestic crackdown on protests/opposition/awkward questions about corruption. I realize that this stuff sounds like wild-ass conspiracy-theory nonsense, but after just three weeks of Idiot Trump’s maladministration circus, I’m not so sure anymore.

PS: and I fervently hope to be proved wrong….

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:48:57pm
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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:49:01pm

We’ll see about that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:49:20pm
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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:51:09pm

re: #77 Jay C

Mattis actually was pushing a plan that would involve interdiction of Iranian ships in international waters to check for materials that might be making their way to terror groups. They were actually hoping the Iranians would resist.

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:51:46pm
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Jack Burton  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:51:57pm

re: #77 Jay C

That’s why they need to be gone or effectively neutered before that can happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:52:23pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:52:56pm

re: #77 Jay C

My own theory is that Trump and his creatures are probably planning some sort of military “action” against Iran pretty much solely to try to get the population to “rally ‘round the Flag”…
PS: and I fervently hope to be proved wrong….

They will certainly need some sort of “crisis” to distract from the next round of incompetence-fueled faux pas that will be coming along on a regular basis.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:53:21pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

The racist swine Conway retweeted (everybody knows it was her, right?) is currently freaking out about being identified as a white supremacist, even though it couldn’t be more obvious.

@TrumpTrainNoBrk

Yep.

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:54:14pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:54:18pm

Unfu…

Nope, totally fucking believable. Again coopting civil rights imagery/iconography to portray themselves as martyrs:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:54:38pm

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:56:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:56:57pm

re: #75 Kragar

Note the supposed birthdate.

Also there’s other obvious signs its a bogus account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:58:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:58:22pm

re: #69 Kragar

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Rand just proved he’s a hack.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:59:36pm

re: #75 Kragar

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Yeah hash tag white identity. Poor widdle snowflake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 12:59:57pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Rand just proved he’s a hack.

He proved it long ago.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:00:43pm

Okay guys, doing my first bit for the Perreillo campaign this weekend. I’m excited.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:01:01pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

He proved it long ago.

I know but he pretty much came out and said it with that.

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:03:04pm
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Apocalypse  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:03:05pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Say what you will about KACon, she does has nice shiny teeth.
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:03:39pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Unfu…

Nope, totally fucking believable. Again coopting civil rights imagery/iconography to portray themselves as martyrs:

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Yeah Devos is just like Ruby Bridges. Ruby just wanted to ruin the public school system in peace and be voted for by the men and women whose campaign she helped bankroll with more than the median income of the U.S.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:03:47pm

re: #98 Kragar

Cowards! They’re all frickin’ cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:04:20pm

re: #98 Kragar

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it’s Valentine Day, Chris. They have to spend it with their mistresses and or rent boys.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:04:38pm

re: #101 lawhawk

Cowards! They’re all frickin’ cowards.

They’re Republicans. That’s kind of a feature.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:04:45pm

re: #79 lawhawk

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EPR-radar  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:05:20pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Rand just proved he’s a hack.

As if there was ever any doubt. Rand is just a generic GOPer who occasionally says a few nutty things to try to maintain support from the Ron Paul idiots.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:06:31pm

re: #101 lawhawk

Cowards! They’re all frickin’ cowards.

They need time to get their talking points in order. Can’t expect them to meet with the press without their scripts hammered out first, now can we?

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:07:26pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

They need time to get their talking points in order. Can’t expect them to meet with the press without their scripts hammered out first, now can we?

Well, we know that Fox News hands them out in the morning, Trump repeats them in the early AM tweets, and the GOP marches from there.

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Kragar  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:07:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:08:00pm

re: #105 EPR-radar

As if there was ever any doubt. Rand is just a generic GOPer who occasionally says a few nutty things to try to maintain support from the Ron Paul idiots.

I know. It was just so brazen though. Anyhow, funny how we’re not hearing much from his Dad these days isn’t it? It’s almost as if Ron Paul doesn’t mind liberty being threatened if you’re not a white Christian male.

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EPR-radar  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:08:04pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

They’re Republicans. That’s kind of a feature.

I’d die laughing if a GOP convention opening ceremony was hacked to play a version of the Sir Robin skit having lyrics adapted to fit the Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:08:55pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:09:25pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

They need time to get their talking points in order. Can’t expect them to meet with the press without their scripts hammered out first, now can we?

They’re probably also hoping that with Flynn gone, this nascent scandal (Flynnghazi?) blows over in a few days.

But the GOP may be miscalculating; investigative journalists now smell smoke and they’re going to go find out where that smoke is coming from.

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nines09  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:09:54pm
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Belafon  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:10:15pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is there a path for her to become president?

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EPR-radar  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:10:25pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I know. It was just so brazen though. Anyhow, funny how we’re not hearing much from his Dad these days isn’t it? It’s almost as if Ron Paul doesn’t mind liberty being threatened if you’re not a white Christian male.

This business of investigations being, by Republican definition, only to be used vs. the Democrats would get serious attention if we had a real media.

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:12:12pm

re: #114 Belafon

If everyone above her in the line of succession is rendered moot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:12:15pm

re: #114 Belafon

Is there a path for her to become president?

No, she’s not American born. She’s from Taiwan so no can do.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:12:57pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Kentucky:

whereabouts are those counties?

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freetoken  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:13:19pm

I believe the line of succession goes to Ivanka…

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:13:54pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Forgot about that bit - she’s not natural born US Citizen. That would supersede the line of succession rules.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:14:21pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

They’re probably also hoping that with Flynn gone, this nascent scandal (Flynnghazi?) blows over in a few days.

But the GOP may be miscalculating; investigative journalists now smell smoke and they’re going to go find out where that smoke is coming from.

And that’s the same mistake Nixon made over and over again: If you make it seem as if the investigation has stopped, then people will lose interest and move on.

In the aftermath of Flynn falling on his sword, the media should operate by those words that have brought down far bigger men than he: “Follow the money.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:14:44pm

re: #114 Belafon

Is there a path for her to become president?

she’s not a natural born citizen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:16:17pm

re: #104 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

“Chatter doesn’t matter” spoken like someone who doesn’t have a fucking clue how things actually work.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:17:41pm

re: #118 Sir John Barron

whereabouts are those counties?

Eastern Kentucky, in Appalachia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:18:33pm

re: #118 Sir John Barron

whereabouts are those counties?

state parks in Pike and Floyd counties.
courier-journal.com

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Belafon  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:19:56pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

No, she’s not American born. She’s from Taiwan so no can do.

Darn. I was hoping to entice McConnell with that possibility.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:19:58pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:21:06pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even if they did, how would we able to tell they weren’t doctored?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:21:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:21:20pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

state parks in Pike and Floyd counties.
courier-journal.com

Literal Nazis, ugh.

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:23:03pm

re: #113 nines09

YES! I will!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:24:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:24:20pm

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

Literal Nazis, ugh.

I hate Kentucky Fried Nazis.//

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:25:14pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

And that’s the same mistake Nixon made over and over again: If you make it seem as if the investigation has stopped, then people will lose interest and move on.

In the aftermath of Flynn falling on his sword, the media should operate by those words that have brought down far bigger men than he: “Follow the money.”

And hopefully, investigative journalists in the media will continue in their efforts. The prize: Being the next Woodward and Bernstein, every journalists fantasy. The story of a lifetime, to put it mildly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:25:51pm

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

Literal Nazis, ugh.

A decades-old “war on poverty” hasn’t worked, said Matthew Heimbach of Southern Indiana, and a leader of the white-power Traditional Worker Party. “A lot of things just haven’t changed,” he said, citing a loss of mining and other jobs, and the prevalence of drug addiction.

“It’s an area that’s been abandoned by the Republicans and the Democrats,” he said, and a coalition of groups wants “to be able to build a grassroots organization” in the area that can “have a voice at the local and state level.”

snip

A state park spokesman, Gil Lawson, said the event was booked at the park as a family reunion.

“The parks department was not notified of the intent of this meeting until late last evening,” he said in a written statement. “As a public event, a different contract will be required. The new contract will include safety and other provisions, and the group will have to reapply under the correct process.”

The statement said that Kentucky State Parks cannot discriminate against individuals or groups under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. “However, we will continue to monitor the situation and any threats to our guests, and we will take appropriate actions as necessary.”

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MsJ  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:29:23pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I hate Kentucky Fried Nazis.//

That’s the best kind. Extra crispy.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:34:42pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

She lent it to some guy sporting a swastika on the street corner? With all the White House numbers in it?

BUT HILLARY’S EMAIL!!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:38:02pm

re: #4 Sir John Barron

Or an investigation to find the leak.

I’m starting to think that as long as Trump tries to stonewall (heh, another flashback word!) this, the intel community will just keep dropping more bad news.

He really pissed off the CIA, and I don’t think they’re in much of a forgiving mood. And it looks pretty certain that they’ve got a lot more on this administration than they’ve released.

We keep saying it’s gonna be a long four years, but it could end up being the longest four years of Trump’s life.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:39:00pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

unfuc..

oh no wait, absolutely believable

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lawhawk  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:39:01pm

Nothing about that family is quite right (and Don Jr has me blocked).

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bratwurst  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:39:11pm

I have fucking had it with this guy. Someone is eventually going to die if action isn’t taken.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:41:23pm

re: #139 makeitstop

I’m starting to think that as long as Trump tries to stonewall (heh, another flashback word!) this, the intel community will just keep dropping more bad news.

He really pissed off the CIA, and I don’t think they’re in much of a forgiving mood. And it looks pretty certain that they’ve got a lot more on this administration than they’ve released.

We keep saying it’s gonna be a long four years, but it could end up being the longest four years of Trump’s life.

What I find interesting is even the FBI, which one would think would be in his corner since they swung the election in his favor, but yet we’re hearing about their investigating Flynn which would seem to indicate that they are still taking their jobs seriously.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:42:35pm

Well, good night, Lizards.

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Nyet  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:44:18pm

Impeach!

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Nyet  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:44:49pm

re: #142 bratwurst

Solo privilege.

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Nyet  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:46:34pm

re: #79 lawhawk

“I serve at the pleasure of @POTUS. His message is my message. “

OK, OK, Mouth.

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ObserverArt  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:48:47pm

Wow. Pretty hard to catch up and keep up with the threads today while also trying to get other stuffs done.

After reading though I am wondering who goes next in the Trump Administration.

I’m thinking Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer are in a dead heat for the next one to get the Trump boot. Both are being talked about in way too much a negative light. The press is riding them both hard and now Kellyanne gets mentioned for a review.

Both are loyalist to The Big Orange Guy so they will both fall on their swords and say they are sorry for any problems they caused.

After that I get a feeling that Son-in-law Kushner might go on his own…the first resignation without being asked. Just a feeling I have. I base it on the conjecture that he gets over passed by Bannon and his wife making goo-goo eyes with handsome leaders of neighboring countries.

I would think because of his fairly young age he would also want to protect his own name for the future and protect his wife from further family messes. We don’t hear much about him anymore and that makes me think he is getting pushed back into the background by Bannon.

Bannon doesn’t need him and could easily sway Trump that he needs to cut down the staff to keep better control of things that are getting out of control. The less people the more Donald can control everyone and Bannon would be just the guy to make sure control is heavy.

Trump loves him some reality TV and all eyes on him. He is now got that and more in his starring role in As the White House World Spins (out of control!)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:49:41pm
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coin operated  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:50:10pm

re: #139 makeitstop

He really pissed off the CIA, and I don’t think they’re in much of a forgiving mood. And it looks pretty certain that they’ve got a lot more on this administration than they’ve released.

This. Almost immediately after calling the CIA a bunch of Nazis, we got word of the IC telling Israel and Britain not to trust the incoming administration with classified info. Soon after that the leaks about Flynn’s calls increased, both in the number of leaks and the level of damaging information. Trump opened this can of worms, and I’m really hoping for a Nixon-level implosion here.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:52:37pm

If Spicer is to be believed, Trump was informed that his National Security Advisor (his top man in charge of keeping him informed of threats to this nation) had been in discussion with a foreign government behind his boss’ back, may be susceptible to blackmail if he hasn’t already been compromised, and Trump’s only concern was if a crime had occurred. And when he personally decided no crime(s) had been committed, he considered the matter closed and moved forward.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:53:31pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:54:05pm

re: #139 makeitstop

I’m starting to think that as long as Trump tries to stonewall (heh, another flashback word!) this, the intel community will just keep dropping more bad news.

He really pissed off the CIA, and I don’t think they’re in much of a forgiving mood. And it looks pretty certain that they’ve got a lot more on this administration than they’ve released.

We keep saying it’s gonna be a long four years, but it could end up being the longest four years of Trump’s life.

As much mess as there is just three weeks in, I can’t see this Trump presidency lasting 4 years.

I do think it is only going to get worse…just like his businesses all performed. There was always the big initial show of a new great Trump product or development and then “poof” dead product, cancelled projects…bankruptcy protection.

There is no moral bankruptcy escape for a President and he is definitely showing he is in the negative column on morals.

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wrenchwench  Feb 14, 2017 • 1:58:02pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:03:16pm

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wrenchwench  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:05:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:07:02pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:07:46pm

Unfortunately, she’s not threading this well

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:08:52pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jesus. You take an oath to uphold the Constitution not to do whatever POTUS wants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:09:13pm
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electrotek  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:10:07pm

This makes me sick to my stomach

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Skip Intro  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:10:24pm

re: #141 lawhawk

At first glance I thought the bed was covered in cockroaches.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:10:32pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Focused on the important issues as always.

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Belafon  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:11:26pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Focused on the important issues as always.

Of course. Oppressing non-white straight Christian males is the most important task. //

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Skip Intro  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:11:27pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:11:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:13:52pm

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you very much. This is a big signing, a very important signing. And this is H.J. Resolution 41, disapproving the Securities and Exchange Commission’s rule on disclosure of payments by resource extraction issuers. It’s a big deal. And I want to thank Speaker Paul Ryan for being here. He’s been tremendous. Jeb Hensarling very, very important and really worked hard. Representative Bill Huizenga and all of the friends — Peter — all of my friends are up here. And we really appreciate it.

This is one of many that we’ve signed, and we have many more left. And we’re bringing back jobs big league, we’re bringing them back at the plant level; we’ve bringing them back at the mine level. The energy jobs are coming back. And it’s — you see what’s going on with the stock market. They know that we know what we’re doing, so it’s going up.

snip

(The President signs H.J. Resolution 41.)

THE PRESIDENT: A lot of people going back to work now. (Applause.) He’s working on Obamacare — it’s going to be very soon. Right?

SPEAKER RYAN: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:14:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:15:29pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

And I’m sure that went over well.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:16:16pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

An important move towards creating jobs in the rust belt again and making American great again I guess.

///

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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:17:33pm

re: #170 Sir John Barron

An important move towards creating jobs in the rust belt again and making American great again I guess.

///

The coal miners want this.//

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:19:03pm

re: #162 Skip Intro

At first glance I thought the bed was covered in cockroaches.

It will be when he gets in.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:20:53pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.”

“The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else. “

- Teddy Roosevelt, 1908

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Sir John Barron  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:21:08pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

snip

Another victory for the White Working Classes!

/

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:22:36pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

And odds are Pence only found out because somebody who wasn’t aware that he was to remain in the dark talked with him about it as if he already knew.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:23:45pm
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Belafon  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:24:25pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

If they’d told Pence, the one guy with executive experience, he might have pointed out how fucked up it is.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:27:12pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

You know, at this point it’s impossible to tell where Poe’s Law begins and ends. Considering the circumstances, I’m going to assume Chaffetz has buddies in another animation company that was hoping to get the CDC money and got passed over for PBS. That’s just the way these things work nowadays.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:27:13pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:27:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:28:07pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:29:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:30:56pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

And odds are Pence only found out because somebody who wasn’t aware that he was to remain in the dark talked with him about it as if he already knew.

It was the same night the WaPo story published.

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Targetpractice  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

Based upon the growing evidence, it would seem that there was an active policy that Pence was to be kept in the dark about the skullduggery that was going on in the Oval Office, and that the whole mess only came crashing down because somebody somewhere goofed in letting him in on the secret when they knew he can’t lie convincingly to the press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:31:41pm

re: #179 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

and the actual “artist” changed “NRA” to “NEA” and “N****R” to “CONSERVATIVE”.

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Skip Intro  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:32:22pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

Chaffetz’s spokeswoman did not respond to a phone call and an email seeking comment.

This raises the possibility that the probe might expand beyond Sid. Can his teacher, Miss Susie, expect a subpoena? Does the inclusion of PBS in the probe suggest Curious George’s immigration status is in jeopardy? Did Bob the Builder hire undocumented workers? Is Kermit the Frog a dishonest journalist who broadcasts fake news?

Chaffetz, in closing, reminded the CDC that his committee can investigate “any matter” at “any time.”

Yes, it can — which is why it’s so appalling that Chaffetz is focusing on an animated preschooler.

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darthstar  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:32:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:37:52pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

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Can McMullin run against Chaffetz already? This guy is quickly replacing Issa as the most pathetic GOPer in the House with his pathetic attempts to distract from how crooked his party is.

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Cheechako  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:39:41pm

Stephen Miller is the guy who scares the crap out of me. Just look at his eyes. He is a TRUE BELIEVER. He’s the guy who will stuff people into box cars and be first in line to turn on the gas. And not blink an eye. He needs to go…quickly!

I’d like to see him Photo-shopped into the Nazi SS uniform he has stored in his bedroom closet.

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austin_blue  Feb 14, 2017 • 2:50:45pm

re: #172 I Would Prefer Not To

It will be when he gets in.

Snap!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 14, 2017 • 3:05:59pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Unfu…

Nope, totally fucking believable. Again coopting civil rights imagery/iconography to portray themselves as martyrs:

[Embedded content]

Glenn McCoy, proud creator of this masterpiece==>

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 14, 2017 • 3:18:38pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

LOL at this paragraph:

“This raises the possibility that the probe might expand beyond Sid. Can his teacher, Miss Susie, expect a subpoena? Does the inclusion of PBS in the probe suggest Curious George’s immigration status is in jeopardy? Did Bob the Builder hire undocumented workers? Is Kermit the Frog a dishonest journalist who broadcasts fake news?”


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