Trump Horror, Day 26: Another Radical Reversal on Flynn

Trump compares the US intelligence community to… Russia
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In today’s episode of our dangerously erratic and unhinged Narcissist in Chief, Donald Trump stages yet another bizarre reversal.

Yesterday, his people (including the always mendacious Kellyanne Conway) were all over the media saying that Trump had “lost confidence” in Michael Flynn, was upset that Flynn had lied to VP Mike Pence about his contacts with Russia (I don’t believe Pence didn’t know, but we’ll let that go for now), and had asked Flynn to resign.

Today Trump gave a short press conference and completely contradicted the talking points his own representatives were issuing, saying Flynn is “a wonderful man” who was “treated very very unfairly by the fake media.”

Trump also contradicted his own past views on leaks, saying the intelligence community was deliberately leaking information to “cover up for a terrible loss the Democrats had under Hillary Clinton.” Yes, this is the same guy who said, “I love Wikileaks!”

And before this press conference he got on Twitter with unsecure Android phone again and blasted out a series of tweets attacking the media and the US intelligence community — and praising “Fox & Friends.”

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None of that makes any sense, of course. Our government is in the hands of an unstable autocrat who’s getting more paranoid by the day as his house of cards begins to fall apart.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:31:46am

And… Puzder withdraws.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:32:49am

“@MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable.” = doing a great job.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:33:21am

My favorite one yet…..

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:34:04am
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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:34:30am

Russia hardly needs a spy ship off our coast. All they need is a computer to read Twitter and a break into his Android phone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:35:01am

re: #1 jaunte

And… Puzder withdraws.

Who’d have thought that nominating a wifebeating CEO who’s been accused of labor law violations to be Secretary of Labor would turn out not to be a genus move?

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:35:15am

Oprah had to step up to take Puzder out.

I guess it’s time to celebrate by going to Bob’s Big Boy for the combo with onion rings and cole slaw!

Don’t forget Bob’s Cole slaw with the Seasoning Salt!
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:36:16am

re: #4 Citizen K

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:36:20am
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Republicans still focused like a laser on destroying anything that doesn’t return them a short-term profit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:36:30am

re: #2 Nyet

“@MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable.” = doing a great job.

“The food is inedible! And the portions are too small!”

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:36:52am

Reposted from downstairs:

re: #596 Anymouse

XXV Amendment: Good luck with that. Cabinet members and the VP have to go before the House to have him set aside - Pence then becomes Acting President.

Not a chance that the fascists in his cabinet are going to do that. Even if they did, not a chance the fascists in the GOP would vote for it.

The only way it could happen is if all of the GOP’s donors unite and forcibly demand that Trump be removed.

And even then… would it? The GOP rank-and-file is guilty as sin with their inaction, suggesting that they all could be within the blast radius.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:38:31am
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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:38:44am

Trump can’t win a war with the IC, and the rest of the Republicans know it. His time is running out.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:38:53am

re: #2 Nyet

“@MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable.” = doing a great job.

And the “lying, failing Washington Post and New York Times!”

The Post needs to do an ad with Trump in a prisoner jumpsuit and cell with the caption, “He never reads the Washington Post!”

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:39:51am

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

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Precisely because the buzz is now saying President Pee Pee is considering nominating Scott Walker for Labor Secretary…

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:40:29am

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:40:40am

What level are we at, 4 or 5?

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(alpuz)  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:41:01am

re: #15 Joe Bacon

Precisely because the buzz is now saying President Pee Pee is considering nominating Scott Walker for Labor Secretary…

Oh, Jeebus.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:41:44am

Carrying over from the last thread:

re: #598 EPR-radar

That’s almost as harsh as some of my little love notes to Trump and the Republicans.

On a related note, I’ve come across the perfect term to describe Republican rule whenever and wherever it is in place: Corrupternment.

Sadly I didn’t coin this word (it’s from a video game), but it fits the current situation supremely well. Corruption simply is the normal operating mode of a Republican regime.

I was born at the tail end of the Eisenhower Administration.

Since then:

- Richard Nixon resigned over Watergate after the Saturday Night Massacre
- Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon
- Ronald Reagan had Iran-Contra and the most administration workers ever arrested/indicted in one administration
- GHW had the highest poverty rate since Ronald Reagan
- George W Bush launched a war against a country that didn’t attack us
- Donald Trump apparently colluded with Russia

There has never been a Republican president in my whole life that wasn’t corrupt. (And I still hear this nonsense of “I didn’t leave the Republicans, they left me”)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:41:44am

Retweeted by Rosie O’Donnell this morning…

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:44:58am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

You’ve arrived! /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:45:05am

re: #19 Anymouse

I was born at the tail end of the Eisenhower Administration.

Gosh, we have a lot in common…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:45:06am

JFC

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:45:30am
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ipsos  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:46:21am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

SMITWH?

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:46:36am

re: #17 The Vicious Babushka

It’s an unknown unknown.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:46:41am

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:46:52am

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:46:55am

re: #11 Myron Falwell

Reposted from downstairs:

The only way it could happen is if all of the GOP’s donors unite and forcibly demand that Trump be removed.

And even then… would it? The GOP rank-and-file is guilty as sin with their inaction, suggesting that they all could be within the blast radius.

We have had our first actual, plain as day, no grey area, not subject to “interpretation” impeachable offense already last week. How many more of those will even the Republicans be able to ignore.

If he’s still in office and not under investigation or under threat of impeachment by this fall I’ll be flabbergasted.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:47:06am

Someone tweeted last night that so many things are happening so fast that the ‘News Cycle’ is now more like that episode of Battlestar Galactica where every time the Fleet jumped, the Cylons found them and attacked, every 33 minutes.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:47:29am

re: #13 jaunte

Trump can’t win a war with the IC AND the media, and the rest of the Republicans know it. His time is running out.

Fixed it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:48:31am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:48:36am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:49:14am

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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posted a tweet downstairs that referred to Lucian Wintrich as “Jim Hoft’s zygote reporter”.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:49:39am
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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:49:52am

re: #29 Jack Burton

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If he’s still in office and not under investigation or under threat of impeachment by this fall I’ll be flabbergasted.

I am guessing if he is not under investigation or threat of impeachment by that time we will no longer be a democratic republic.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:51:31am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

No soul-searching required.

The fact is we have fully 35% of the country composed of mostly white, mostly rural /suburbanites who have a grandiose sense of absolute Entitlement. This country is theirs, plain and simple. And only theirs.

They want cherry-picked aspects of the 1850’s and 1950’s back… a magic union-quality job fairy, magic put Blacks back in their place fairy, no such thing as gays fairy, no real external competition fairy, etc etc. The problems are, all these are very very real. Union-quality jobs that feature good wages and benefits are not coming back without unions. Blacks in no way will go back to being openly subjugated. Gays are here and in the open. External companies and countries are kicking our ass academically, socially, and administratively because they are looking forward, not harking back to a fake-Andy black-and-white Griffith fantasyland.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:51:53am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

posted a tweet downstairs that referred to Lucian Wintrich as “Jim Hoft’s zygote reporter”.

“Lucian Wintrich”? Sounds like a name from Dickens, or Harry Potter. And not a good guy.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:52:07am

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:52:46am

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:52:47am

re: #39 lawhawk

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:53:23am

re: #11 Myron Falwell

Reposted from downstairs:

The only way it could happen is if all of the GOP’s donors unite and forcibly demand that Trump be removed.

And even then… would it? The GOP rank-and-file is guilty as sin with their inaction, suggesting that they all could be within the blast radius.

Assuming they go the 25th Amendment route… The VP and Cabinet send a letter to Congress saying Trump is unfit/unable to perform his duties. Trump immediately sends a letter saying he can. The VP and Cabinet immediately send another one saying the inability still exists. Congress has 3 weeks to determine the issue, they need a two-thirds vote in each house saying he can’t carry out his duties.

On that point, you’d need 19 Republican senators to join with the Democrats, which if push came to shove, I think you could get. In the House, you’d need 98 Republicans to join the Democrats, that’s just over 40% of the GOP caucus. That’s the one that may be more difficult.

Also, there’s the question of who has presidential authority during the 3 weeks the Congress must make the determination. The text of the Amendment says this:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

I think that bit at the end “the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President” suggests that the VP remains the head of the executive branch during the determination. But if not, if there are bills to be signed, executive orders to be issued, or any sort of disaster, the question of who is in control becomes very real.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:54:42am

re: #29 Jack Burton

We have had our first actual, plain as day, no grey area, not subject to “interpretation” impeachable offense already last week. How many more of those will even the Republicans be able to ignore.

If he’s still in office and not under investigation or under threat of impeachment by this fall I’ll be flabbergasted.

I suspect that the GOP will be doing quite a bit of work ensuring nothing would stick to Pence. When/if that mission is accomplished, that’s when I think you’ll see investigations and impeachment. The predictions that Trump would bring down the GOP are right—it will just happen 6-12 months post-election unless the GOP Congress people start paying attention to their career dissipation lights that are picking up speed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:54:45am
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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:55:03am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Thanks for explaining how that works.

re: #42 KGxvi

At this point, I’m thinking no president would be better than what we have now.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:55:32am

re: #5 Anymouse

Russia hardly needs a spy ship off our coast. All they need is a computer to read Twitter and a break into his Android phone.

why do you think that ship is there? Guarantee they know everything coming and going from that phone.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:55:47am
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Talking Point Detective  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:55:58am

So “the media” are unfair because they wrote articles about Mike when MIke didn’t really do anything wrong….

…but teh Donald fired the guy even though he didn’t anything wrong…

…and tRump is an independent guy who doesn’t make decisions based on popularity or polls….

…but (the “incredibly decisive”) tRump held on to Mike for two weeks after finding out that Mike is a liar…until just after the unfair media started reporting that Mike is a liar…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:55:59am

re: #37 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Seriously.

I got into a discussion with my wingnut cousin from WV. He said that even though he opposed Obama’s election, he had hoped that electing a black President would ‘take race off the table’. I’ve seen this repeatedly - they imagined that nothing in how minorities are treated in America would have to change, but they wouldn’t be able to complain about it anymore.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:56:47am

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

“Lucian Wintrich”? Sounds like a name from Dickens, or Harry Potter. And not a good guy.

I can’t even imagine what an asshole that Wintrich is. To be under 30 and far right politically is to be a colossal fuckface. No exceptions.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:56:55am
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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:57:31am
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Franklin  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:58:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:58:59am

re: #50 Mike Lamb

I can’t even imagine what an asshole that Wintrich is. To be under 30 and far right politically is to be a colossal fuckface. No exceptions.

Exhibit A: Baby Whiplash.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:59:42am

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

“Lucian Wintrich”? Sounds like a name from Dickens, or Harry Potter. And not a good guy.

Lucius Malfoy.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 15, 2017 • 11:59:55am

At this point the coin is flipped and the GOP is creating internal reasons NOT to Impeach rather than keep going with Plan A which was to hope for a year or two of GOP laundry list items to pass into law then eject him from the White House.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:00:05pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

“The food is inedible! And the portions are too small!”

Sounds like a typical customer at Carl’s Jr.!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:01:22pm

Jim Hoft’s pal Lucian Wintrich is also a Chuck C. Johnson crony, by the way.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:02:31pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:02:49pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft’s pal Lucian Wintrich is also a Chuck C. Johnson crony, by the way.

Do his parents know what he is doing? Do they allow him to stay out late on a school night?

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:03:00pm

Wingnut Christian blog claiming an assistant attorney general is drawing up charges against President Obama for treason. Y’all Christians need to call out the liars amongst you.

countdowntozerotime (dot) com/2017/02/15/hell-breaking-loose-behind-scences-us-district-attorney-allegedly-advocates-charging-former-president-obama-with-treason-dana-boente-no-one-is-above-the-law-lou-dobbs-its-sedition/

The claim is Dana James Boente, just placed in position by an EO from Donald Trump, is bringing forth a charge of treason against President Obama for what is way down the article:

Most concerning about these radical leftist militant actions to US Attorney Boente and law enforcement throughout the land is that the FBI’s investigation into this Berkeley riot, and the FBI investigation into Berkeley’s mayor ordering his police forces to stand down, revealed that BAMN had coordinated their attacks with Obama’s OFA Oakland, California, office—and may have, in fact, been ordered by President Obama himself.

Even more disturbing about Obama’s OFA radical leftist affiliations then Berkeley, is their partnering with a group called Knights for Socialism that has begun teaching children to chant “Kill Trump” while bashing with baseball bats effigies of America’s new president.

US District Attorney Boente is allegedly behind the scenes advocating that a grand jury be impaneled to charge the former president with treason—

Come on, I’m an atheist and can find this stuff, why aren’t Christians calling out Radical Christian Terrorism?

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:03:15pm

re: #45 Anymouse

At this point, I’m thinking no president would be better than what we have now.

Fortunately/unfortunately, our system is designed for there to always be a president (acting or otherwise). I honestly think the 25th Amendment was written for situations like we saw with Bush, where he went under the knife and so Cheney was Acting President for a day or two, or where the president is medically incapacitated (think heart attack, stroke, coma). But a situation like this, where he is mentally unstable? Not sure the process contemplated something like that.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:04:02pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

That immigration checkpoint on route 10 west of LC used to kind of freak me out. Think it was slightly west of Deming.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:04:57pm

re: #63 Anymouse

countdowntozerotime

Nice of them to put the crazy warning right up front.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:05:08pm

re: #63 Anymouse

sounds not believable at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:06:19pm

re: #63 Anymouse

So when is countdownzerotime getting WH press creds?

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:07:27pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

That immigration checkpoint on route 10 west of LC used to kind of freak me out. Think it was slightly west of Deming.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:07:47pm

re: #63 Anymouse

EDIT: I misread the post and thought it was a motion against Trump. Gaaah a long day.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:07:55pm

re: #64 KGxvi

Fortunately/unfortunately, our system is designed for there to always be a president (acting or otherwise). I honestly think the 25th Amendment was written for situations like we saw with Bush, where he went under the knife and so Cheney was Acting President for a day or two, or where the president is medically incapacitated (think heart attack, stroke, coma). But a situation like this, where he is mentally unstable? Not sure the process contemplated something like that.

Moreover, the President would have to submit to a psychiatric evaluation, or the House could simply say “that’s your opinion.”

In the meantime, more and more psychiatrists are breaking the so-called “Goldwater Rule” and saying Mr. Trump is unfit to govern.

nytimes.com

Letter:

To the Editor:

Charles M. Blow (column, nytimes.com, Feb. 9) describes Donald Trump’s constant need “to grind the opposition underfoot.” As mental health professionals, we share Mr. Blow’s concern.

Silence from the country’s mental health organizations has been due to a self-imposed dictum about evaluating public figures (the American Psychiatric Association’s 1973 Goldwater Rule). But this silence has resulted in a failure to lend our expertise to worried journalists and members of Congress at this critical time. We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer.

Mr. Trump’s speech and actions demonstrate an inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions. His words and behavior suggest a profound inability to empathize. Individuals with these traits distort reality to suit their psychological state, attacking facts and those who convey them (journalists, scientists).

In a powerful leader, these attacks are likely to increase, as his personal myth of greatness appears to be confirmed. We believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president.

LANCE DODES

JOSEPH SCHACHTER

Beverly Hills, Calif.

Dr. Dodes is a retired assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. Dr. Schachter is a former chairman of the Committee on Research Proposals, International Psychoanalytic Association. The letter was also signed by 33 other psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:07:59pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

Do his parents know what he is doing? Do they allow him to stay out late on a school night?

He’s older than he looks. I made the same mistake. He’s a college grad already and apparently no joke the founder of Twinks for Trump- not that there’s anything wrong with being a think.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:08:50pm

Charles, you should add this to your post as an update. Talk about unhinged…this pretty much defines it.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:09:40pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:11:03pm

re: #63 Anymouse

A friend of mine from college, who bills himself as a Reagan Republican and claimed not to have voted for Trump, yesterday referred to “so-called protestors, paid by Soros”.

When I asked him if he really thought that 5 Million people turned out on 21Jan because Soros paid them, he said, “No. Just the violent ones.”

So I asked him why Soros would pay for people to break windows and burn stuff, which threatened to delegitimize the actual protests, he said, “Soros has paid anarchists before”.

Basically, it doesn’t have to make a lick of sense. All it has to do is make the other side look bad. This ‘Circle The Wagons’ response, from Republicans who despised Trump, is why fighting him is an uphill battle.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:11:35pm

Wait, it gets worse.

He’s actually Lucian Baxter Wintrich IV.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:11:36pm
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Unforunately, it only gets worse down the line……

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…Of equal concern to our allies is Trump’s business partner in the Philippines, who is also the special representative to Washington of that country’s president, Rodrigo Duterte. This government official, Jose E.B. Antonio, is the head of Century Properties, which in turn is a partner with the president’s business in the construction of Trump Tower at Century City in Makati, Philippines. According to people with direct knowledge of the situation, a European intelligence service has obtained the contracts and other legal documents in the deal between the Trump Organization and Antonio. That deal has already resulted in large payments to Trump’s business, with millions of dollars more on the way-all coming from an agent of the Philippine president.”

The GOP attempting to just wave this corruption away is outrageous.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:13:28pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

A friend of mine from college, who bills himself as a Reagan Republican and claimed not to have voted for Trump, yesterday referred to “so-called protestors, paid by Soros”.

When I asked him if he really thought that 5 Million people turned out on 21Jan because Soros paid them, he said, “No. Just the violent ones.”

So I asked him why Soros would pay for people to break windows and burn stuff, which threatened to delegitimize the actual protests, he said, “Soros has paid anarchists before”.

Basically, it doesn’t have to make a lick of sense. All it has to do is make the other side look bad. This ‘Circle The Wagons’ response, from Republicans who despised Trump, is why fighting him is an uphill battle.

The funny thing is the far left probably see Soros not too different from how many of them see the Kochs. My wingnut friend uses leftist and liberal interchangeably. He really thinks the black bloc are the average American liberal.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:13:38pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Well, the wife did go to Oprah. And that apparently carries more weight than Trump being caught on an open mike bragging of being a serial sexual harasser/predator who assaulted women.

Yeah, that too.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:14:37pm

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:14:42pm

re: #81 Dr. Matt

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Unforunately, it only gets worse down the line……

Mattis may be the only one who isn’t a fucking disaster. Then again, that’s like calling yourself the world’s tallest little person.

Are Kevin Haugrud and Michael Scuse holdovers from the Obama administration?

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:16:00pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

A friend of mine from college, who bills himself as a Reagan Republican and claimed not to have voted for Trump, yesterday referred to “so-called protestors, paid by Soros”.

When I asked him if he really thought that 5 Million people turned out on 21Jan because Soros paid them, he said, “No. Just the violent ones.”

So I asked him why Soros would pay for people to break windows and burn stuff, which threatened to delegitimize the actual protests, he said, “Soros has paid anarchists before”.

Basically, it doesn’t have to make a lick of sense. All it has to do is make the other side look bad. This ‘Circle The Wagons’ response, from Republicans who despised Trump, is why fighting him is an uphill battle.

This kind of shit is exactly why I can’t see the Republicans in Washington really faltering and giving in, at least this early. They have such an absurdly concrete floor of support that they won’t really pay much consequences for circling the wagons and being the eternal bulwark around Trump that they keep signaling they’ll be.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:16:04pm
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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:17:09pm

re: #86 Myron Falwell

Mattis may be the only one who isn’t a fucking disaster. Then again, that’s like calling yourself the world’s tallest little person.

Are Kevin Haugrud and Michael Scuse holdovers from the Obama administration?

And yet Mattis today said that NATO allies have to increase their defence spending by the end of the year or the USA will start withdrawing support.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:17:56pm

re: #88 Anymouse

At some point, Chaffetz needs to be investigated for dereliction of duty. And I have a sneaking suspicion that he will be implicated in the wider scandal.

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:17:57pm

re: #86 Myron Falwell

Mattis may be the only one who isn’t a fucking disaster. Then again, that’s like calling yourself the world’s tallest little person.

Are Kevin Haugrud and Michael Scuse holdovers from the Obama administration?

And Mattis is showing how easily pliable he is, judging by his statements to NATO.

The people around Trump aren’t having a moderating force like some naifs claimed after the election: being in the Trump circle is, in itself, a radicalizing force.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:18:17pm

re: #75 MsJ

Charles, you should add this to your post as an update. Talk about unhinged…this pretty much defines it.

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His response is what you might expect if he only heard ‘campaign…victory…antisemitism’, and just riffed on that. And based on other answers, I’m thinking that’s pretty much exactly the case. There’s a REASON the PDB is being turned into something more like My Weekly Reader.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:18:43pm

re: #80 Nyet

Wait, it gets worse.

He’s actually Lucian Baxter Wintrich IV.

Ye gods, there are MORE of them?

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Interesting Times  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:18:59pm

Paging burn unit:

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:19:03pm
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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:19:12pm

re: #90 Myron Falwell

At some point, Chaffetz needs to be investigated for dereliction of duty. And I have a sneaking suspicion that he will be implicated in the wider scandal.

Hell, Rand Paul gave the game away about how it ‘didn’t make sense’ to investigate people if they were of the same party. This is the exact game they’re playing: the full codification of IOKIYAR as operative rule and law.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:19:22pm

re: #89 Anymouse

re: #91 Citizen K

As implied earlier, there is an embarrassingly low bar to go with here.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:19:34pm

Leading candidate for Trump’s science advisor calls climate change a cult

In January, the Trump transition team arranged for two scientists to meet with Trump. Since then, both have been considered frontrunners to become the new presidential science advisor, a position that typically heads the Office of Science and Technology Policy. While the two—Princeton’s William Happer and Yale’s David Gelernter—have radically different backgrounds, they have a couple of things in common: strong support for science in general and extreme skepticism of climate science in particular.

There’s no indication that Trump will name a science advisor in the near future, especially as his national security team is in turmoil. But Happer, a retired physicist, has put himself in the news by granting interviews in which he calls climate science a cult. So it seems like an appropriate time to take a good look at both of the candidates.

William Happer

Happer’s biggest research achievement came in the development of technology that provided Earth-based telescopes with adaptive optics that allow them to compensate for the distortions introduced by the atmosphere. He also has a long history of involvement with the government, having served on a panel of physicists that advised the US on military issues and serving in the Department of Energy.

In recent years, he has made climate change his primary cause, staking out a position that’s in stark disagreement with the conclusions of those who actually study the climate. He has held positions at think tanks opposed to climate action, like the Global Warming Policy Foundation and the George C. Marshall Institute, and is a regular at the meetings of the Heartland Institute. In an exposé, Greenpeace found that he was willing to write material on the benefits of carbon dioxide for foreign fossil fuel companies in return for donations to a climate lobby group he helps to direct, the CO2 Coalition (he has also taken money from a coal company for testimony to state legislators).

arstechnica.com

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Jay C  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:19:55pm

re: #37 Rocky-in-Connecticut

As bad a problem as 35% of the country being irremediable dyed-in-the-wool wingnuts is the issue that they are a regular and cohesive voting bloc (even if somewhat geographically limited): dependably turning out, election after election, to leverage their bloc vote to influence the 65% of us who are either opposed to their rigid ideology or (a much larger number, IMO) who just don’t give a crap. Of course, this devotion to the democratic process only operates to the extent that it serves a pre-set agenda (theirs) - hence the obsession with the enormously bogus issue of “voter fraud” and a fanatic devotion to high-tech gerrymandering to preserve their electoral advantages.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:20:05pm

The order of succession doesn’t take into account the fact that the President and top staff may have been compromised by a foreign power, suggesting that those down the line are likewise compromised.

No one ever considered or contemplated such a scenario, but alas we are here.

There are no good options. Just least bad ones.

Chaos favors Russia, and an uncertain political situation in DC certainly qualifies.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:20:30pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

Ye gods, there are MORE of them?

Either that, or IntraVenous is his hip-hop name.

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Franklin  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:20:42pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Spoof. Read the memorandum, it’s quite funny.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:20:51pm

re: #90 Myron Falwell

At some point, Chaffetz needs to be investigated for dereliction of duty. And I have a sneaking suspicion that he will be implicated in the wider scandal.

Allegedly, at the same time the Russians hacked the DNC, they also hacked Republicans for compromising info they could use to blackmail them.

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:21:32pm

re: #87 Citizen K

This kind of shit is exactly why I can’t see the Republicans in Washington really faltering and giving in, at least this early. They have such an absurdly concrete floor of support that they won’t really pay much consequences for circling the wagons and being the eternal bulwark around Trump that they keep signaling they’ll be.

How many times can they ignore Von Clownstick discussing classified national security information outside of a SCIF, in a publicly accessible place of business, in the presence of uncleared persons, and allow them to have smartphones anywhere near it before even the most corrupt, vapid, and soulless of them can’t take it anymore.

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:22:03pm

re: #97 Myron Falwell

As implied earlier, there is an embarrassingly low bar to go with here.

Yeah, not arguing there. It just shows how low the bar is, that Mattis, despite his NATO appearance, is still the ‘adult in the room’. It shows that there really isn’t an adult in the room left.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:22:46pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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And I’m guessing that’s fake, considering I can’t find anything about it.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:22:57pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Think that the DNC was trying to be ironic, since they were indicating that their objections included that FBI Director Comey required no coercion in order to flip the election to the GOP (act partisan).

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Mike Lamb  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:23:49pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

I dunno…that is some funny shit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:24:06pm

re: #103 Franklin

Spoof. Read the memorandum, it’s quite funny.

I read it, I know what the intent is. Seems like a pointless waste of time with everything that’s going on.

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Franklin  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:25:40pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

I read it, I know what the intent is. Seems like a pointless waste of time with everything that’s going on.

Ahhh gotcha.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:26:36pm

re: #111 lawhawk

Where’s Victoria Jackson when you need her song?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:26:57pm

re: #94 Interesting Times

Paging burn unit:

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Boom!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:28:41pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

A friend of mine from college, who bills himself as a Reagan Republican and claimed not to have voted for Trump, yesterday referred to “so-called protestors, paid by Soros”.

My gay GOP buddy from Arizona also mentioned the Soros Paid Resistance Fighters.

It is the only way they can rationalize the response to what is happening.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:28:52pm

re: #113 Nyet

Where’s Victoria Jackson when you need her song?

Where’s all those gun toting liberty tree watering sons of patriots standing up for the constitution and apple pie at?

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:29:26pm

re: #105 Jack Burton

How many times can they ignore Von Clownstick discussing classified national security information outside of a SCIF, in a publicly accessible place of business, in the presence of uncleared persons, and allow them to have smartphones anywhere near it before even the most corrupt, vapid, and soulless of them can’t take it anymore.

As many times as the right amount of Americans can wrap themselves in the cognitive dissonance necessary to ignore or explain that kind of stuff away, and we’ve seen how much of that there is to go around.

Unless you get some real major and surprising defections, they can still probably run this out until the 2018 midterms with zero non-electoral consequences. Sure, they’ll get pilloried by the media at this point, but they’ll still probably think they can get away with enough, legislatively and by fiat via Dolt 45, that it won’t matter how hurt they get in the midterms.

I mean…we’re at Defcon 2 far as legitimate scandal here, and you still have Chaffetz and company playing dumb while investigating fucking cartoon characters instead, and look how many people are still making that out to be defensible. Trump has a perfect storm of inoculation right now and I think the GOP knows that and is working it to the bone as much as they can before it finally catches up to them.

Barring some judicial miracle, we’re probably still in this ride until 2018 at the soonest. Get ready for the long war.

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:30:38pm

Rep. Gaetz of Florida is planning a town hall in his district Feb. 23. Democratic women are organising to be at his event. Rep. Gaetz filed a bill to abolish the EPA,

Then we get this:

Throngs of protesters, organized by the local Democratic Women’s Club, plan to meet him there to demand he end his crusade against the embattled EPA. A local Tea Party agitator vowed to muster militiamen to prevent “these Marxists” from “disrupting” the event. A faction of Bikers for Trump ― the loosely affiliated group of motorcyclists who rallied after last month’s inauguration to counter the Women’s March on Washington against President Donald Trump ― pledged to show up, too.

Gaetz tweeted at Bikers for Trump that he can’t wait to “see his friends.”

More: huffingtonpost.com?

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:30:41pm

re: #105 Jack Burton

How many times can they ignore Von Clownstick discussing classified national security information outside of a SCIF, in a publicly accessible place of business, in the presence of uncleared persons, and allow them to have smartphones anywhere near it before even the most corrupt, vapid, and soulless of them can’t take it anymore.

My theory is that the IC is going to take their time and release damaging information on the Trump Cult over the next 8 months to a year. Some will be stories damaging to the Trump ‘brand,’ some will kneecap his inner circle, most will shine a questioning light on Trump’s very legitimacy as president.

Once they’ve driven Trump’s approval into the mid-teens and scandalized his entire cabinet, they’ll tell him to go sit in the Oval and pretend to be president and see who gives a shit.

They won’t have to oust him, just completely de-legitimize him. A year of relentlessly negative news stories will do that.

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steve_davis  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:31:48pm

re: #56 Nyet

Lucius Malfoy.

lucian wintrich. the only Hogwarts student without a house, because even the Slytherins thought he was an unbearable asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:32:32pm

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My gay GOP buddy from Arizona also mentioned the Soros Paid Resistance Fighters.

It is the only way they can rationalize the response to what is happening.

And then they say, “Lib’ruls said the Tea Party protestors were paid by the Kochs!”, which isn’t true. We said the were ORGANIZED BY groups that the Koch’s paid for, which was true, but as it turned out, less important than the fact of the fury of white revanchism the protestors represented. It took a long time to recognize just how deeply racial animus motivated them.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:32:54pm

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s a lot of denial going around. I won’t even call it “rationalization” since the discussions aren’t even rational. Rather, they are escapist.

This is most strongly evident in the religious right supporters of Trump, like the followers of Franklin Graham Jr. These people were from the get-go into denial and fantasy, and nothing can budge them. Their choice of beliefs is based on primitive human needs we all have, and these sort of things are not changed very quickly.

Given the appeal of the strong-man personality to so many, trying to convince these same people that Trump not only is not a strong man but never was one is going to be quite a challenge.

I’m sticking with what I wrote the other day - until there is a great tragedy, some large slice of our society will not choose to look at the truth but stick with their fantasies.

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Jack Burton  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:33:28pm

re: #119 makeitstop

A year of relentlessly bad media coverage is probably going to give him a stroke.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:33:51pm
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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:35:15pm

re: #119 makeitstop

My theory is that the IC is going to take their time and release damaging information on the Trump Cult over the next 8 months to a year. Some will be stories damaging to the Trump ‘brand,’ some will kneecap his inner circle, most will shine a questioning light on Trump’s very legitimacy as president.

Once they’ve driven Trump’s approval into the mid-teens and scandalized his entire cabinet, they’ll tell him to go sit in the Oval and pretend to be president and see who gives a shit.

They won’t have to oust him, just completely de-legitimize him. A year of relentlessly negative news stories will do that.

Oh, yeah, Trump is gonna be hurting for a good while in the court of public opinion after all this, and that’s going to be valuable. I just doubt how much that’ll effect being able to stop him and the GOP from doing what they want to do anyway, because they have that concrete floor of support. People are going to be fucking pissed and chomping at the bit to do something. I just don’t see anything tangible that CAN be done until 2018, barring a judicial miracle like I said before.

It’s working, just we have such a shit hand dealt right now that there won’t be much opening to DO anything with it for a while except keep hammering.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:35:52pm

re: #105 Jack Burton

Even in a worst-case scenario, should the IC definitively implicate Trump, the entirety of his cabinet, every high-ranking Republican official (especially the unholy trinity of Ryan, McConnell and Chaffetz) you’d still have the base Republicans who think it’s FAKE NEWS!!1!!!

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Anymouse  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:35:58pm

I have to log out. I need to get ready for a trip to Cheyenne. See y’all later.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:36:26pm

There is a strong connection between the rise of the religious belief that a single cell is a “person” and the mythology of Trump.

Anti-abortion activism is an escape from what the world of biologists tell these people (namely, that a human is just an animal, a huge colony of cells). Likewise, Trumpism is an escape from reality - that America is a mix of people, our history is blotched with great injustices, and there are no easy answers to solving tough economic and political issues.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:37:38pm

re: #50 Mike Lamb

I can’t even imagine what an asshole that Wintrich is. To be under 30 and far right politically is to be a colossal fuckface. No exceptions.

Mike, I deal with plenty of them every day. Under 30 and hard core Objectivist Ayn Randians who ooze narcissism out of their pores…

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:37:55pm

If the IC is serious, the next target should be Bannon. Take him out and Trump is like a baby.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:38:04pm

re: #77 jaunte

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I wish I could read their stuff sometimes buy I am not buying a subscription to Foreign Policy. Anyone have the gist?

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:38:20pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope Oprah has more dirt on Republicans…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:38:52pm

re: #98 Anymouse

Some call it “Photosynthesis”
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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:39:41pm

WaPo got a tape of Stephen Miller in HS

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:40:11pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon

Mike, I deal with plenty of them every day. Under 30 and hard core Objectivist Ayn Randians who ooze narcissism out of their pores…

And then you have the channers who seem to deify the concept of assholishness and strive to do everything to offend because “PC” and “SJWs” are the enemy. The crossover between those groups is fairly large too. Just…so many millennials who believe in the divine right to be cruel to people because they’re already superior to them by birthright.

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steve_davis  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:41:18pm

re: #80 Nyet

Wait, it gets worse.

He’s actually Lucian Baxter Wintrich IV.

so basically cabin boy on a 2-hour cruise gone bad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:42:44pm

re: #119 makeitstop

They won’t have to oust him, just completely de-legitimize him. A year of relentlessly negative news stories will do that.

And the foot soldiers of the US government, the diplomats, security and even the military people are going to either passively or openly refuse to go along with his contradictory, hare-brained and often unconstitutional directives, which will further frustrate him and make him look both impotent and incompetent.

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:44:09pm

re: #130 Nyet

If the IC is serious, the next target should be Bannon. Take him out and Trump is like a baby.

That would be my guess. Here’s hoping they come loaded for bear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:44:37pm

re: #136 steve_davis

so basically cabin boy on a 2-hour cruise gone bad.

Five passengers set sail that day for a 3 hour tour,
… A Three Hour Tour.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:46:03pm

re: #119 makeitstop

The IC, specifically the CIA, is doing this at a much quicker pace than even I thought. It correlates with whenever Trump attacks the IC on Twitter… they speed up the leaks.

Chaffetz is already being attacked and impugned by his own constituents and in the local media. I would be shocked to see him last beyond June and not “resign” for some odious reason or another.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 12:54:36pm

re: #80 Nyet

Wait, it gets worse.

He’s actually Lucian Baxter Wintrich IV.

That name is just perfect for an annoying, entitled asshole.

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steve_davis  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:00:13pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

Five passengers set sail that day for a 3 hour tour,
… A Three Hour Tour.

that’s what I was aiming at! For some reason I have never been a Gilligan’s Island fan. I know many consider it some kind of classic, but for me, it’s just painful to watch. I have always admired the Professor, who apparently demanded that any scientific explanation his character gave on the show had to be well-grounded.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:06:39pm

re: #105 Jack Burton

How many times can they ignore Von Clownstick discussing classified national security information outside of a SCIF, in a publicly accessible place of business, in the presence of uncleared persons, and allow them to have smartphones anywhere near it before even the most corrupt, vapid, and soulless of them can’t take it anymore.

Forever, if Republicans can get their tax cuts.

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Swift2991  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:20:51pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gee, when I was born, FDR had a year to live. Gives you a different view of the presidency.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 1:26:35pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

His response is what you might expect if he only heard ‘campaign…victory…antisemitism’, and just riffed on that. And based on other answers, I’m thinking that’s pretty much exactly the case. There’s a REASON the PDB is being turned into something more like My Weekly Reader.

If that doesn’t show he is unfit, I don’t know what would. That is so disconnected from reality it’s terrifying.


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