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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:53:22pm

So a woman goes to the El Paso courthouse to get a restraining order against her abusive husband and gets picked up by ICE, tipped off by her abusive husband.

Not all costs and consequences are economic. These are people’s lives at stake.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:54:23pm

re: #1 austin_blue

So a woman goes to the El Paso courthouse to get a restraining order on her abusive husband and get picked off by ICE, tipped off by her abusive husband.

Not all costs and consequences are economic.

Terrible. I hope they don’t have kids. This is exactly why I’m joining my sister in law’s sister and her husband for the immigration rally in May.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:56:19pm

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:57:20pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

Lemme guess, she’s claiming Hillary would do the exact same things and that the REVOLUTION is coming and that the Dems should have just given in and nominated Bernie despite him not being the choice of their voters.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:57:56pm

This is fascinating.

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Citizen K  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:58:18pm

re: #1 austin_blue

So a woman goes to the El Paso courthouse to get a restraining order against her abusive husband and gets picked up by ICE, tipped off by her abusive husband.

Not all costs and consequences are economic. These are people’s lives at stake.

Dunno if that’s the situation here, but it makes me think of cases where the abuser is the one responsible for bringing them over here illegally in the first place, and then using it as a tool of control: ‘make me happy or else, YOU GO BACK’, bullshit like that.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 5:59:40pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

Not watching because I ran out of Tums.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:01:19pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

Not watching because I ran out of Tums.

I only have two beers left. Actually even if she was sane, I wouldn’t care to watch anyhow, I could care less about what she has to say especially since she’s proven herself to be a batshit moron.

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The Spite House  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:01:48pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

I almost threw something heavy at my 65” tv.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:03:32pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

Worse.

If we have her ‘revolution’ and Stephen Miller ends up against the wall next to Bannon…I’m putting her right in with the rest them. That asshole she went on the show with can get lined up as well.

Fucking useless purity pony princess.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:04:08pm

And if you wanted proof that the NRA could care less about guns and just propping up right wing bullshit, NRA TV’s response to the Flynn news. Yep a bunch of conspiracy bullshit about “Obama loyalists.” Thanks guys, you do know that you’re the poster children for why we need sensible gun laws in this country. Pathetic paranoid losers like you really shouldn’t be able to play with deadly weaopns. I get you especially Wayne LaPierre are incredibly insecure and that’s why you feel the need to play with guns all the time but you’re going to hurt someone if you don’t hurt yourself first.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:05:01pm

re: #10 Scottish Dragon

Worse.

If we have her ‘revolution’ and Stephen Miller ends up against the wall next to Bannon…I’m putting her right in with the rest them. That asshole she went on the show with can get lined up as well.

Fucking useless purity pony princess.

She reminds me of the German communists who did everything they could to weaken the strongest center-left opposition to Hitler by calling them “social fascists.” Fuck her. I have no respect for her.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:05:02pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Lemme guess, she’s claiming Hillary would do the exact same things and that the REVOLUTION is coming and that the Dems should have just given in and nominated Bernie despite him not being the choice of their voters.

yeah…and also it’s all Obama’s fault for not being a true Trotskyite or something.

yeah…they really did go there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:06:19pm

re: #13 Scottish Dragon

yeah…and also it’s all Obama’s fault for not being a true Trotskyite or something.

yeah…they really did go there.

I really fucking hate that element of the left. I really goddamn do.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:06:29pm

repost from downstairs for anyone who doesn’t already know.

re: #416 goddamnedfrank

Holy shit! ICE now literally enabling domestic abuse.

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That ICE employee should know full well that the US welcomes such people to work with them to arrest and prosecute the abuser. The victim is protected and put on a track to citizenship —that is the deal. IT’S VERY IMPORTANT because those that bring (mostly) women into this country are often abusers/rapists.

They threaten the women with their kids —“do as I say, don’t tell, whatever OR I’ll send you back to mexico and keep the kids”

These (mostly) women do not often know the language, do not know they have rights, and live horrible lives.

The old world customs of many hispanics are very real—men will go South of the border specifically to find a cowering women who will literally spoon feed them at mealtime.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:07:04pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

She reminds me of the German communists who did everything they could to weaken the strongest center-left opposition to Hitler by calling them “social fascists.” Fuck her. I have no respect for her.

The guy with her had a special case of butthurt because they did not get the language in the DNC platform they wanted on frakking. He is freaking Sith. All black or all white. Nothing else allowed.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:07:13pm

re: #5 MsJ

This is fascinating.

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For better or worse, Gawker never really died. Sorry Peter Thiel.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:07:25pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

Chris loves his Magical Balance Fairy shows, doesn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:08:08pm

A Dreamer was also detained. I’m worried like hell for my one sister in law’s husband. He’s got a green card thankfully. In a sane administration, I wouldn’t worry but I definitely do with all that’s going on. As I said, that’s why I’m joining them for the immigration rally. I’m not an immigrant or even an immigrant’s grandson but people in my family were once immigrants too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:08:43pm

re: #18 nines09

Chris loves his Magical Balance Fairy shows, doesn’t he?

I am not a fan of Chris’s. He’s not as bad as Ed Schultz was and is but he loves to play to that element of the left that is simply never goddamn happy unless they’re miserable.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:08:44pm

re: #18 nines09

Chris loves his Magical Balance Fairy shows, doesn’t he?

Fuck him, too.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:10:34pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

OT Susan Sarandon on MSNBC is as insipid as expected.

Has she broken her damn neck getting up on that high horse of hers yet?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:10:46pm

Frankly, there’s two parts of the left- There’s the left that wants to improve what we can and knows we’re not going to get everything but knows that progress is a journey and not an event. And then there’s the other part that honestly is never happy and goes on about how we need revolutions and shit.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:11:27pm

re: #18 nines09

Chris loves his Magical Balance Fairy shows, doesn’t he?

Chris tried to actually push on her bullshit and she went KellyAnne Riefenstahl by trying to take over the interview and indict HIM on not being a Troo Member of the Select Progressive Klub.

I actually could not believe it. She took over the interview and starting blaming Chris for fossil fuel consumption and pipelines.

Her sort are really fucking dangerous in actual power. They tend to get themselves onto nifty things called the Committee for Public Safety.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:11:37pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:13:05pm

Tomorrow is A Day Without Immigrants.

Some big chefs are closing down for the day.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:13:48pm

re: #25 Birth Control Works

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I remember when a little birdie told me that Rauter was a “moderate, reasonable Republican.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:14:16pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:14:24pm

If any lizards do not understand the Committee of Public Safety reference, look it up and see what happened when Troo Beeleevers got to have their revolution.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:14:38pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I remember when a little birdie told me that Rauter was a “moderate, reasonable Republican.”

It’s all about money.

somehow, the idea that babies cost a lot of money, never figures into their decision making.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:14:49pm

re: #24 Scottish Dragon

She’s an actress. She’s adored. She’s hip. She’s cool. She cares. She’s a shithead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:15:26pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:15:42pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

Tomorrow is A Day Without Immigrants.

Some big chefs are closing down for the day.

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Oh, I am so glad my gf and I went to the Pakistani restaurant today for luncheon buffet. If we had gone tomorrow and found it closed, I would have cried.

WAS SO LOOKING forward to mango custard.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:16:09pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:16:27pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I remember when a little birdie told me that Rauter was a “moderate, reasonable Republican.”

We all know that there is no such thing as a ‘moderate’ or ‘reasonable’ Republican any more.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:16:56pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

for fuck’s sake

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:17:25pm

re: #31 nines09

She’s an actress. She’s adored. She’s hip. She’s cool. She cares. She’s a shithead.

Entitled rich white women syndrome. She doesn’t give a shit what happens to POC, GLBT people, whoever as long as she gets to play with her historical dialectic posturing.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:17:50pm

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:19:23pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:21:03pm

Kid just called from college —pain in lower right abdominal area, fever has an appt with the doctor tomorrow morning on campus.

REALLY? go to the ER right now.

Think that is why he called —to get permission.

at 23 years old.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:21:09pm

Jesus…Chris Hayes was actually ready to reach out and choke her.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:22:06pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wouldn’t call anything about the Trump administration ‘good’, but it is possible that this level of failure (and possibly much worse to come) will be necessary to meaningfully discredit the Republicans.

Too many in the electorate definitely don’t do things the easy way (e.g. by spotting Trump as ‘inevitable future disaster’ and voting accordingly).

It remains to be seen if they can learn from what is likely to be bitter experience.

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unproven innocence  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:22:22pm

re: #29 Scottish Dragon

If any lizards do not understand the Committee of Public Safety reference, look it up and see what happened when Troo Beeleevers got to have their revolution.

This, I presume?

Q: What was the Committee of Public Safety?
A: Quick Answer

The Committee of Public Safety exercised executive power in France during the period known as the Reign of Terror. Established in March, 1793, when the revolutionary government confronted counterrevolutionaries in France, the Committee of Public Safety became a radical dictatorship presiding over thousands of political executions. Continue Reading

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:22:52pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

Tomorrow is A Day Without Immigrants.

Some big chefs are closing down for the day.

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Jose Andres is great. Went to Jaleo for my birthday last summer and my sis in law says that Zaytinya is good too. Sucks I’m going to be in D.C. tomorrow because there’s a lot of good foreign owned restaurants that may not be open. I don’t blame these restaurateurs though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:23:38pm

re: #30 Birth Control Works

It’s all about money.

somehow, the idea that babies cost a lot of money, never figures into their decision making.

Yeah a baby is a lot of money.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:24:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:24:40pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s what you get to say when you’re a multi-millionaire actress. Meanwhile, if you have loved ones that worry about being deported…………….

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:25:04pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:25:05pm

re: #43 unproven innocence

This, I presume?

Q: What was the Committee of Public Safety?
A: Quick Answer

Yep. Purity pony types do not play well with others when they get power. They always find a way to show why you need to be purged.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:25:33pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

We all know that there is no such thing as a ‘moderate’ or ‘reasonable’ Republican any more.

Come on dude, you know I was being snarky right down to the bird part though I have to admit it didn’t cross my mind when I said it at first.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:26:19pm

re: #37 Scottish Dragon

Entitled rich white women syndrome. She doesn’t give a shit what happens to POC, GLBT people, whoever as long as she gets to play with her historical dialectic posturing.

Why would Sarandon give a shit about those not as pure as her? If the shit really, really hits the fan with Trump, Pence, and the GOP with the absolute worst scenarios that you can think of, she can fly away on a private plane anywhere in the world she wants to go and live out the rest of her life in relative comfort and security.

Unlike the millions she helped to fuck over with her purity pony bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:26:42pm

re: #37 Scottish Dragon

Entitled rich white women syndrome. She doesn’t give a shit what happens to POC, GLBT people, whoever as long as she gets to play with her historical dialectic posturing.

Yep.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:27:18pm

re: #41 Scottish Dragon

Jesus…Chris Hayes was actually ready to reach out and choke her.

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He’s a fucking moron for having her on at all.

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:27:23pm

re: #39 MsJ

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:27:27pm

re: #41 Scottish Dragon

Chris, you know, you could have pulled a Dorothy Fuldheim and thrown her out of the studio…

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:27:54pm

re: #30 Birth Control Works

It’s all about money.

somehow, the idea that babies cost a lot of money, never figures into their decision making.

Of course not. Republicans generally don’t give a shit. They particularly don’t give a shit about women being forced to spend money in pregnancy/birth. If hard pressed, a Republican might be able to express concern for the money (i.e., that it’s not all going to the Republican who is talking), but never for the woman.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:28:59pm

re: #46 Stanley Sea

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Good for these ambassadors especially the ones that served under Republican presidents. With Friedman, you may as well be appointing Pam Geller to that job.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:29:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:30:17pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

Of course not. Republicans generally don’t give a shit. They particularly don’t give a shit about women being forced to spend money in pregnancy/birth. If hard pressed, a Republican might be able to express concern for the money (i.e., that it’s not all going to the Republican who is talking), but never for the woman.

The one thing I consistently notice about Republicans in my observations is a consistent inability to empathize with people not like them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:32:03pm

re: #58 MsJ

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He’s also on to a fictional character too. The House Watergate Committee Chair probably regrets not investigating Meathead for Communist ties. //

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:32:30pm

re: #58 MsJ

Did they even confirm an inspector general?

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:32:58pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

The one thing I consistently notice about Republicans in my observations is a consistent inability to empathize with people not like them.

That seems to be the same problem with Sarandon and the BoBers as well (see above).

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:32:58pm

re: #61 Myron Falwell

Did they even confirm an inspector general?

Not to my knowledge.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:33:21pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

The one thing I consistently notice about Republicans in my observations is a consistent inability to empathize with people not like them.

Every iteration of the Republican platform in presidential election cycles gets it closer and closer to pure situational sociopathy. Only Republicans are deemed to be human at all, with the rich ones being better than the rest.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:33:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:33:47pm

re: #62 TedStriker

That seems to be the same problem with Sarandon and the BoBers as well (see above).

Yeah they actually do have a lot in common with the wingnuts.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:34:27pm

re: #65 MsJ

Absolutely beautiful.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:36:09pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

Every iteration of the Republican platform in presidential election cycles gets it closer and closer to pure situational sociopathy. Only Republicans are deemed to be human at all, with the rich ones being better than the rest.

It’s honestly something I noticed even before the party went completely wacko insane. The diehard anti-choicers I grew up with never could understand why a pregnant young woman would want want to abort for one. Empathy, ideology aside I think is what really separates liberals and conservatives. My one brother and I keep on observing one of our conservative old friends who consistently shows that he lacks that ability. My brother OTOH can show empathy and understanding to tribes that have seldom been contacted by westerners.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:36:33pm

re: #65 MsJ

Look at this. Amazing!

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Wow, that’s awesome.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:36:42pm

re: #62 TedStriker

That seems to be the same problem with Sarandon and the BoBers as well (see above).

If you think the US is facing disaster under Trump and the Republicans, it’s in very bad taste to be so damn smug and happy about it.

Every single one of these crap stains that abstained or voted third party has a half-vote for Trump to atone for.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:38:13pm

If there’s a step in your political plan that is simply:

X) Revolution

…all the steps afterward—(X+1 thru X+infinity) don’t matter.

Applies even when you’re not talking about violent upheaval: crack open the normal path of procedure and discourse, and what will come out on top is not the best idea, not even the popular idea, but the idea backed by the most ruthless bastards with the greatest bent for fuckery.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:38:43pm

I LITERALLY CAN’T EVEN!

Read this thread. AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:39:16pm

Welp. Here is the real reason Stephen Miller creeps everyone the fuck out

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:40:19pm

re: #71 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

If there’s a step in your political plan that is simply:

X) Revolution

…all the steps afterward—(X+1 thru X+infinity) don’t matter.

Applies even when you’re not talking about violent upheaval: crack open the normal path of procedure and discourse, and what will come out on top is not the best idea, not even the popular idea, but the idea backed by the most ruthless bastards with the greatest bent for fuckery.

I consider myself a staunch liberal but revolution should be the last recourse. As Jefferson wrote “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth,” We didn’t need a revolution last year. Changes, yes but revolution, no.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:41:12pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Christ. The Goebbels picture is actually less creepy than the Miller picture.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:41:53pm

re: #40 Birth Control Works

He absolutely should go to the ER immediately!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:41:56pm

Bannon= Julius Streicher.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:43:05pm

It’s Already Happened Here

We have always vacillated between lofty precepts on paper and the refusal of white men to apply them in practice.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:43:10pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

He absolutely should go to the ER immediately!

Think it could be appendicitis? That was some of the worst pain I’ve experienced in my life even worse than the pain I experienced after hitting my eye on a fence as a kid or the aftermath of my cornea transplant.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:44:39pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I consider myself a staunch liberal but revolution should be the last recourse. As Jefferson wrote “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth,” We didn’t need a revolution last year. Changes, yes but revolution, no.

I particularly like the slightly later passage: “… a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

Present-day ‘revolutionaries’ usually fail this test badly, especially the RWNJ types.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:44:51pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

He absolutely should go to the ER immediately!

I am constantly amazed at the level of independence of my kid and his peers and myself at the same age.

My husband says it’s also a gender thing.

ugh!

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:45:36pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I consider myself a staunch liberal but revolution should be the last recourse. As Jefferson wrote “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth,” We didn’t need a revolution last year. Changes, yes but revolution, no.

Don’t get me started on Jefferson, my hated Founder Father.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:45:58pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Bannon= Julius Streicher.

Bannon looks more like Goering.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:46:12pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

I particularly like the slightly later passage: “… a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

Present-day ‘revolutionaries’ usually fail this test badly, especially the RWNJ types.

My favorite was in 2010 them claiming NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION while wearing their stupid colonial era garb. Uh, you have representation ,you may not have liked who it was but unlike the 1776 colonists, you had someone your area voted for in both Congress and your state legislature.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:46:45pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:46:56pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Bannon= Julius Streicher.

Bannon is more like Martin Bormann.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:47:51pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I remember back when they were pulling that shit. Still have this floating around

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:03pm

re: #82 Birth Control Works

Don’t get me started on Jefferson, my hated Founder Father.

I’m aware of his contradictions too but I don’t mind quoting him. Really though your most hated? I started liking him a lot less when I had to research for work when I worked at the history magazine his record with slavery- the reluctant slave holder stuff is such bs not just because he didn’t free his slaves like Washington did but because he was quite brutal too and we of course knwo about Hemmings.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:09pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:16pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I consider myself a staunch liberal but revolution should be the last recourse. As Jefferson wrote “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth,” We didn’t need a revolution last year. Changes, yes but revolution, no.

If anything, it is a miracle that we haven’t collapsed in outright revolution since the founding (Civil War notwithstanding).

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:36pm

re: #85 Kragar

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CIA is in charge and has always been in charge —next is the military.

In one version of reality anyway.

I am confident the CIA is most interested in Russia’s activities.

In a sense they are a sinister line of defense.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:41pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Bannon looks more like Goering.

Yeah looks wise but Streicher too was a drunk who published a hate rag, remind you of anyone?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:48:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:49:23pm

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Bannon is more like Martin Bormann.

Oooh good one, I think a little bit of both though given they were both newspaper men.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:49:27pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

Love Andres! I remember when he refused to work for Trump after Trump insulted Mexicans in his first campaign speech. I believe Trump sued him. Good to see he’s still standing up to Trump.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:49:43pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

My favorite was in 2010 them claiming NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION while wearing their stupid colonial era garb. Uh, you have representation ,you may not have liked who it was but unlike the 1776 colonists, you had someone your area voted for in both Congress and your state legislature.

Unless you live in DC (and you know what kind of people live in DC) then fuck em, who cares if they’re taxed without representation?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:50:18pm

re: #87 Kragar

I remember back when they were pulling that shit. Still have this floating around

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Exactly and as disappointed as I am with some of my representation, I don’t see it as being akin to what the colonists dealt with or other colonies or oppresesd people who had no voice.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:50:35pm

Nah, if you want representation you have to pay a lobbyist -

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:51:32pm

re: #91 Myron Falwell

If anything, it is a miracle that we haven’t collapsed in outright revolution since the founding (Civil War notwithstanding).

I really really wish I still had my paper I wrote on teh election of 1800 for a class I took on the Revolutionary Era in community college. I have so much respect for Adams for handling the first change of party like a champ. He didn’t go to Jefferson’s inauguration but he didn’t refuse to leave the WH either.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:52:31pm

re: #99 Birth Control Works

Nah, if you want representation you have to pay a lobbyist -

/

Didn’t say the system was perfect and man do we need to do something about Gerrymandering.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:53:02pm

re: #97 MsJ

Unless you live in DC (and you know what kind of people live in DC) then fuck em, who cares if they’re taxed without representation?

Yep, D.C needs to get a vote in Congress. IT’s such horseshit how those voters are treated.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:53:20pm

re: #31 nines09

She’s an actress. She’s adored. She’s hip. She’s cool. She cares. She’s a shithead.

Sarandon wouldn’t get a penny from me for any future films. Done with her. It’s people like her that out Trump in the White House. She should be so proud.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:55:09pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

Sarandon wouldn’t get a penny from me for any future films. Done with her. It’s people like her that out Trump in the White House. She should be so proud.

If I recall, she was one of those smug Naderites in 2000 too. Some people just never learn. I won’t refuse to see her films over this but she does piss em off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:55:15pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart

Best headline ever was NY Post after a KKK rally in midtown Manhattan (attracted about a dozen klanners and many more jeering protesters)

SHEET HAPPENS

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:56:02pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Trump doesn’t actually want to govern — so he’s back to basking in the adoration of his fans. I haven’t even seen him working with Congressional Republicans to pass laws. It has been Executive Orders all the way.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Didn’t say the system was perfect and man do we need to do something about Gerrymandering.

Yes, I agree with that statement!

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:56:48pm

re: #91 Myron Falwell

If anything, it is a miracle that we haven’t collapsed in outright revolution since the founding (Civil War notwithstanding).

It’s possible that the present split in US politics is more fundamental than the split that ended up in the civil war.

Slavery and Anti-slavery were both reality based positions, and were attacked and defended with mostly reality based public policy arguments.

Now we are getting way too close to Lies vs. Not-lies as the heart of the dispute.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 15, 2017 • 6:58:39pm
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William Lewis  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:01:10pm

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Bannon is more like Martin Bormann.

Just so we don’t let them find their Reinhard Heydrich…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:02:25pm

re: #34 MsJ

Eric Wemple, WaPo: Lawyer’s claim: Feds issued a subpoena regarding Fox News sexual harassment scandal

Fox News responded to Tantaros’s complaint by seeking to steer it into an arbitration proceeding under the supervision of the American Arbitration Association (AAA) — the better to keep it out of the sunshine of the civil justice system. The network also alleged that the real reason for Tantaros’s fall from grace at Fox News was that she failed to comply with the network’s book guidelines for “Tied Up in Knots: How Getting What We Wanted Made Women Miserable.”

New York Supreme Court Judge David Benjamin Cohen ruled that Tantaros’s complaint must indeed be moved to arbitration. As a side note, Gretchen Carlson, whose July sexual harassment suit triggered a flood of stories about Ailes’s conduct, received a large settlement and an apology and has taken to lobbying against arbitration clauses.

In the hearing, Burstein expressed his wish to amend the Tantaros suit by adding racketeering and electronic surveillance charges — a reference to the intelligence unit once operated by Ailes to spy on Fox News talent and critics. The judge told Burstein that he could not so amend the complaint.

As far as the network’s settlements go, there may be some material for inspection. Just last month, news broke that Fox News months ago had reached a pricey, hush-hush settlement with former on-air personality Juliet Huddy over sexual harassment claims against O’Reilly. At that time, veteran New York Magazine reporter Gabriel Sherman noted that the network had inked settlements with at least four women since the departure of Ailes.

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lawhawk  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:03:03pm

re: #34 MsJ

I’m seeing that it may be in relation to violation of wiretapping laws plus SEC violations relating to Andrea Tantaros’ ongoing lawsuit against the network. She’s alleging that the network didn’t reveal lawsuit settlements to the SEC, and that the network engaged in illegal wiretapping.

The judge in the case didn’t allow an amended complaint with the allegations, but SEC investigators may nonetheless take another look based on these claims.

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mmmirele  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:03:35pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

I follow the @SwiftonSecurity account and it’s actually a serious account. Yeah, so its icon and some pictures are Taylor Swift, but it’s got good, good information.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:04:34pm

re: #107 Birth Control Works

Yes, I agree with that statement!

Schwartznagger actually did a great job explaining why it’s so screwed up.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:05:33pm

re: #110 William Lewis

Just so we don’t let them find their Reinhard Heydrich…

God, I hope not. That guy was probably the most evil of all the Nazis and there wre a lot of evil fucking Nazis.

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darthstar  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:06:02pm

So Rachel reports that the WSJ reports that Trump isn’t trusted with classified info. Any pools starting about how long Trump’s going to last?

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mmmirele  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:06:45pm

re: #116 darthstar

So Rachel reports that the WSJ reports that Trump isn’t trusted with classified info. Any pools starting about how long Trump’s going to last?

Wait, what? That doesn’t make any sense. Is it being withheld from him deliberately or what?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:07:46pm

re: #92 Birth Control Works

And it’s pretty evident that the CIA has a major axe to grind with the FBI. They will not take Complicit Comey’s inaction towards Flynn kindly.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:07:53pm

re: #91 Myron Falwell

If anything, it is a miracle that we haven’t collapsed in outright revolution since the founding (Civil War notwithstanding).

We were edging toward some kind of revolt during the Great Depression. Had FDR not taken his quick, decisive actions to ameliorate poverty and unemployment, there could have been serious trouble. Governments with large masses of hungry, unemployed people don’t typically last very long. China today knows this. As long as its economy provides people jobs and enough money to live comfortably, the Party does not need to worry about mass protests or insurrections, especially as it is very deft at putting down anything remotely challenging the Party’s authority.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:07:55pm
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William Lewis  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:08:44pm

re: #117 mmmirele

Wait, what? That doesn’t make any sense. Is it being withheld from him deliberately or what?

People would be surprised at how impressive sounding a briefing can be given without mentioning anything actually sensitive. My guess is that’s what’s happening with Cheeto Mussolini.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:09:51pm

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William Lewis  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:10:57pm

re: #119 wheat-dogg

We were edging toward some kind of revolt during the Great Depression. Had FDR not taken his quick, decisive actions to ameliorate poverty and unemployment, there could have been serious trouble. Governments with large masses of hungry, unemployed people don’t typically last very long. China today knows this. As long as its economy provides people jobs and enough money to live comfortably, the Party does not need to worry about mass protests or insurrections, especially as it is very deft at putting down anything remotely challenging the Party’s authority.

I don’t know. In the US, the population was mollified by what FDR appeared to be doing even though very little of it had any real effect and it was only WWII’s Keynesian spending that finally made a real difference. There is unlikely to be any such recourse in a nuclear armed world.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:11:29pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Schwartznagger actually did a great job explaining why it’s so screwed up.

I missed that.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:12:37pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:12:53pm

re: #120 Myron Falwell

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:14:10pm

txted kid —he is in a room waiting for the doc at the ER.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:16:23pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Bannon= Julius Streicher.

As much as I despise Bannon, he has a whiff of intellect about him, whereas JS was the lowest of the low on that front.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:18:08pm

re: #128 Nyet

As much as I despise Bannon, he has a whiff of intellect about him, whereas JS was the lowest of the low on that front.

Dim Hoft is Streicher.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:18:58pm

re: #123 William Lewis

I don’t know. In the US, the population was mollified by what FDR appeared to be doing even though very little of it had any real effect and it was only WWII’s Keynesian spending that finally made a real difference. There is unlikely to be any such recourse in a nuclear armed world.

Oh, I realize FDR’s New Deal may have had little effect in ending the Depression, but it did quell some of the anti-government feelings simmering in the country. Roosevelt, being the smart man he was, understood what factors enabled the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the rise of Hitler and Mussolini in the ’30s. He wanted to pour water on any smoldering fires.

The Republicans then, like the ones now, never quite understood the need to at least try to empathize with the masses. They didn’t regain the White House until Eisenhower was elected, because people remembered Hoover all too well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:20:35pm

re: #124 Birth Control Works

I missed that.

Pretty funny actually given what happened with Nickelback.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:21:07pm

re: #129 Nyet

Dim Hoft is Streicher.

Yeah that works better.

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William Lewis  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:21:33pm

re: #130 wheat-dogg

He was also very aware of the disintegration of Spain during that time and I’m sure it was an object lesson to him as well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:22:08pm

re: #128 Nyet

As much as I despise Bannon, he has a whiff of intellect about him, whereas JS was the lowest of the low on that front.

One of the few Nuremberg defendants without an above average IQ right? If I remember right, the psychologists who analyzed the defendants said most of them were above average intelligence.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:22:52pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:27:27pm

re: #58 MsJ

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:28:55pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Pretty funny actually given what happened with Nickelback.

I know nothing

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:30:06pm

So as I was having my morning cup of ‘spro before I head out to work, I was thinking to myself, “What could the Russians possibly have on Trump - aside from hookers with full bladders - that’s genuinely damaging?” and then it hit me.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:30:44pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:31:54pm

never mind

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:31:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:33:44pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:34:11pm

re: #138 Dr Lizardo

So I was having my morning cup of ‘spro before I head out to work, I was thinking to myself, “What could the Russians possibly have on Trump - aside from hookers with full bladders - that’s genuinely damaging?” and then it hit me.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:35:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:36:42pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Right wing humor is so lame.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:38:44pm

re: #143 wheat-dogg

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:38:59pm

Anyway, off to work. Have a good, Lizards.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:40:42pm

Remember that investigations have a way of expanding on their own, Ken Starr was originally brought on only to investigate Whitewater. Jason might want to be careful before he aligns himself too strongly with Trump and makes himself an enemy target of the intelligence agencies.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:43:31pm

TRUMP SAYS HE HAS BEEN TREATED VERY UNFAIRLY BY PEOPLE WHO WROTE CONSTITUTION

And he’s got people looking into finding out who they are so he can SEE THEM IN COURT!

newyorker.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:43:37pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

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Remember that investigations have a way of expanding on their own, Ken Starr was originally brought on only to investigate Whitewater. Jason might want to be careful before he aligns himself too strongly with Trump and makes himself an enemy target of the intelligence agencies.

Honestly, I think Evan McMullin, Utah guy should run against him in the primary.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:44:50pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Is he a total asshole, because Utah really likes its assholes?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:45:35pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

Is he a total asshole, because Utah really likes its assholes?

Can’t say. I’ve been to Nevada and Colorado but never Utah.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:46:16pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:48:29pm

FYI, Jessica Jones fans

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:50:13pm

Kid’s getting a catscan et al.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:51:23pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:51:27pm

re: #155 Birth Control Works

Kid’s getting a catscan et al.

I’m long-range diagnosing appendicitis. And the ER visit was a very good choice.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:52:15pm

re: #157 wheat-dogg

I’m long-range diagnosing appendicitis. And the ER visit was a very good choice.

I’d rather he go and I pay the co-pay etc on the visit than to have it rupture in the night.

HORROR!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:52:28pm

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:52:49pm

re: #157 wheat-dogg

I’m long-range diagnosing appendicitis. And the ER visit was a very good choice.

That was my thougth when she mentioned he had admonial pain. Hopefully he gets well soon. Appendicitis is painful. I got it senior year of high school.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:53:39pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Looking at the follows for that account - if Twitter Security wants to identify where to start on suspending accounts for TOS violations, that’s as good of a place as any to start.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 7:53:59pm

re: #158 Birth Control Works

I’d rather he go and I pay the co-pay etc on the visit than to have it rupture in the night.

HORROR!

Yeah, septicemia is not a good thing.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:03:51pm

I see it’s only going to get worse… apparently Il Duce wannabe wants to put one of Jared’s billionaire buddies in charge of reviewing the intelligence agencies, whatever that means.

This circus is getting another ring.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:10:19pm

re: #118 Myron Falwell

And it’s pretty evident that the CIA has a major axe to grind with the FBI. They will not take Complicit Comey’s inaction towards Flynn kindly.

If we are lucky, CIA has something on Comey too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:11:22pm

re: #164 freetoken

I see it’s only going to get worse… apparently Il Duce wannabe wants to put one of Jared’s billionaire buddies in charge of reviewing the intelligence agencies, whatever that means.

This circus is getting another ring.

Is this the proposal from Il Duce or from President Bannon?

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:12:39pm

My uncle had a sister he never met.

She was crossing the street with her mother holding her hand. Appendix Ruptured —they never made to the other side of the street.

scary shit.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:13:17pm

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

Is this the proposal from Il Duce or from President Bannon?

The puppet or the puppet master - it depends not.

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:13:25pm

This is pretty cool, the founder of Little Caesar’s paid Rosa Park’s rent for the last decade of her life: m.dailykos.com.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:15:18pm

re: #164 freetoken

I see it’s only going to get worse… apparently Il Duce wannabe wants to put one of Jared’s billionaire buddies in charge of reviewing the intelligence agencies, whatever that means.

That will go over well with the intelligence professionals.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:16:06pm

re: #167 Birth Control Works

My mother was born in 1921. When she was still a toddler, her appendix burst while she and her parents were driving somewhere. She went into a convulsion and my grandfather bit through his pipe stem. They must have gotten SOOOO lucky, because she obviously made it.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:16:25pm

Many of the Republican leadership in Congress are arrogant enough to believe they can ignore the obvious. They know they are in secure districts - only a few will have to face a tight race in 2018. Same for most of the Republican Senators.

So this is how our ship finally capsizes - not from outside but from too many contented people all lazing on one side of the deck.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:17:51pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:18:18pm

re: #169 Belafon

This is pretty cool, the founder of Little Caesar’s paid Rosa Park’s rent for the last decade of her life: m.dailykos.com.

I saw that.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:19:35pm

“…Bringing Mr. Feinberg into the administration to conduct the review is seen as a way of injecting a Trump loyalist into a world the White House views with suspicion. But top intelligence officials fear that Mr. Feinberg is being groomed for a high position in one of the intelligence agencies.

Mr. Bannon and Mr. Kushner, according to current and former intelligence officials and Republican lawmakers, had at one point considered Mr. Feinberg for either director of national intelligence or chief of the Central Intelligence Agency’s clandestine service, a role that is normally reserved for career intelligence officers, not friends of the president. Mr. Feinberg’s only experience with national security matters is his firm’s stakes in a private security company and two gun makers.
nytimes.com

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:20:40pm

re: #171 retired cynic

My mother was born in 1921. When she was still a toddler, her appendix burst while she and her parents were driving somewhere. She went into a convulsion and my grandfather bit through his pipe stem. They must have gotten SOOOO lucky, because she obviously made it.

I couldn’t imagine what what my uncle’s mother went thru. He was later adopted.

She ended-up with 5 grandchildren and tons of people to love her. I called her grandmother too as mine were both gone by the time I was born.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:20:42pm

“…On an array of issues — including the Iran nuclear deal, the utility of NATO, and how best to combat Islamist militancy — much of the information and analysis produced by American intelligence agencies contradicts the policy positions of the new administration.”

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:21:38pm

Because “much of the information and analysis produced by American intelligence agencies” is not driven by wishful thinking, Russian ambition, and Trump greed.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:21:41pm

re: #177 jaunte

“…On an array of issues — including the Iran nuclear deal, the utility of NATO, and how best to combat Islamist militancy — much of the information and analysis produced by American intelligence agencies contradicts the policy positions of the new administration.”

oh, well, the intelligence agencies must change their tune to align with the new administration . .

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:21:55pm

So cute!!

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:22:26pm

re: #175 jaunte

oh, please page that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:24:30pm

re: #167 Birth Control Works

My uncle had a sister he never met.

She was crossing the street with her mother holding her hand. Appendix Ruptured —they never made to the other side of the street.

scary shit.

It does make you thankful for modern medicine. My grandmother’s older half brother had an infected boil that ended taking his life. He was only 15 years old.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:25:47pm

re: #171 retired cynic

My mother was born in 1921. When she was still a toddler, her appendix burst while she and her parents were driving somewhere. She went into a convulsion and my grandfather bit through his pipe stem. They must have gotten SOOOO lucky, because she obviously made it.

You knwo what’s amazing to think about. With all the plagues and tragedy in history, we are where are. I mean I know this sounds obvious but we are directly descended from millions of people.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:26:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:27:26pm

I’ve realized doing my genealogical research, two of my four grandparents lost siblings as children, one had two siblings that were still born, and the other lost her mother young. All transcended socio-economic backgrounds too. My dad’s dad was pretty well off whereas my mom’s parents were poor immigrant’s kids.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:28:15pm

On a cool note, I think I may be drawing a tad bit closer to one of my Irish places of origin. A little townland in Mayo called Cloonkerry.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:28:42pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I’ve realized doing my genealogical research, two of my four grandparents lost siblings as children, one had two siblings that were still born, and the other lost her mother young. All transcended socio-economic backgrounds too. My dad’s dad was pretty well off whereas my mom’s parents were poor immigrant’s kids.

I remember a lot of “kicked by a horse” and “milk poisoning” as causes of death in our family history.

We’ve come a long way, and very few remember.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:29:03pm

Guess my point in 184 is people who pine for the “good old days” are idiots. My surviving grandmother thinks people who pine for the mines her father and father in law worked in are nucking futs.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:29:19pm

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:29:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:30:04pm

re: #187 Birth Control Works

I remember a lot of “kicked by a horse” and “milk poisoning” as causes of death in our family history.

We’ve come a long way, and very few remember.

The same uncle did lose an eye to being kicked by a horse funnily enough. I’ve actually got a murder mystery in my tree. Dad’s dad’s maternal grandfather. Unsolved too.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:30:23pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

It does make you thankful for modern medicine. My grandmother’s older half brother had an infected boil that ended taking his life. He was only 15 years old.

My dad’s older brother died in ‘33 from some infection he got while swimming in Long Island Sound, probably from a scraped leg or something. He was in his late 20s at the time, and in otherwise perfect health.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:30:53pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

Disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:32:25pm

re: #192 wheat-dogg

My dad’s older brother died in ‘33 from some infection he got while swimming in Long Island Sound, probably from a scraped leg or something. He was in his late 20s at the time, and in otherwise perfect health.

It’s just so sad to think about. When I was a kid, I had heard that my dad’s dad lost a sibling as a child. I didn’t know how to verify it since he himself was gone and I had only met his only sister left once and I was only seven and she had been born turns out after her older sister died. Ended up being true. Poor thing got a case of spinal mengitits on Christmas Eve at the age of 5. I cannot imagine what my great grandmother, a devout Catholic woman must have felt.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:32:41pm

re: #193 retired cynic

Disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:34:08pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:34:18pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:34:26pm

According to Samantha Bee, Paul Ryan was voted biggest brown-noser in high school.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:35:14pm
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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:35:24pm

re: #177 jaunte

“…On an array of issues — including the Iran nuclear deal, the utility of NATO, and how best to combat Islamist militancy — much of the information and analysis produced by American intelligence agencies contradicts the policy positions of the new administration.”

Scene: law firm conference room

Client talks up case to two lawyers. Partner gets excited, tells client he’s got a great case and that it’s a slam dunk. Client is convinced he was wronged and won’t settle for less than everything.

Associate: ahem, so I’ve done some research. Here’s what the law says we have to prove. And so far it sounds like we are missing three of the five elements. Maybe we should think about tempering our expectations

Client and Partner: get the fuck out

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:35:29pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:39:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:39:35pm

re: #198 Belafon

According to Samantha Bee, Paul Ryan was voted biggest brown-noser in high school.

Doesn’t surprise me.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:40:16pm

EPA staff told to prepare for Trump executive orders: sources

Staff at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency have been told that President Donald Trump is preparing a handful of executive orders to reshape the agency, to be signed once a new administrator is confirmed, two sources who attended the meeting told Reuters on Wednesday.

A senior EPA official who had been briefed by members of the Trump administration mentioned the executive orders at a meeting of staffers in the EPA’s Office of General Counsel on Tuesday, but did not provide details about what the orders would say, said the sources, who asked not to be named.

“It was just a heads-up to expect some executive orders, that’s it,” one of the sources said.

The second source said attendees at the meeting were told Trump would sign between two and five executive orders.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:40:18pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

It’s just so sad to think about. When I was a kid, I had heard that my dad’s dad lost a sibling as a child. I didn’t know how to verify it since he himself was gone and I had only met his only sister left once and I was only seven and she had been born turns out after her older sister died. Ended up being true. Poor thing got a case of spinal mengitits on Christmas Eve at the age of 5. I cannot imagine what my great grandmother, a devout Catholic woman must have felt.

I’ve discovered my mom’s parents lost their firstborn in infancy, as did my paternal grandfather’s half-brother and his wife. Both deaths were in the early 20th century, so infant mortality was pretty bad not very long ago.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:42:09pm

Did y’all catch this word salad from the Idiot in Chief?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:42:49pm

re: #205 wheat-dogg

I’ve discovered my mom’s parents lost their firstborn in infancy, as did my paternal grandfather’s half-brother and his wife. Both deaths were in the early 20th century, so infant mortality was pretty bad not very long ago.

And then there’s mothers dying giving birth. My cousin’s husband asked me to research his family a little bit since his dad’s mom had died giving birth to his father. This was all just after WWII. It just astounded me to think about. I think that’s exactly why romanticizing the past is so foolish. I mean I’ve done it before. Everyone has wondered what it would be like to live in “simpler” times at one point but most of us when we really think about, we realize how silly it is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:43:17pm

re: #206 wheat-dogg

Did y’all catch this word salad from the Idiot in Chief?

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Yep. Love Schiff’s response.

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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:44:00pm

You can also find a picture of Pres. Carter’s mother alongside Mr. Wrestling II.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:45:54pm

Colbert:
“Netanyahu visited the White House. As a courtesy, Trump put a 24 hour hold on his staff re-tweeting Nazis.”

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:46:20pm

re: #206 wheat-dogg

I heard it live while driving. I couldn’t believe what I heard.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:46:38pm

There’s suddenly activity in that @StephenMillerAL account.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:46:51pm

re: #210 jaunte

Colbert:
“Netanyahu visited the White House. As a courtesy, Trump put a 24 hour hold on his staff re-tweeting Nazis.”

Bannon promised not to wear his Fourth Reich t-shirt I hope too.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:47:10pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK

so called good old days?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:48:14pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

There’s suddenly activity in that @StephenMillerAL account.

This is the one they’re denying is his right?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:50:54pm

re: #214 Birth Control Works

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so called good old days?

Yeah. Good old days if you were a rich white guy. If you were anything else though. I actually got a little sad looking at the Pittsburgh Post Gazette archives. Apparently my one grandmother was a good student journalist and constantly on the honor roll at her school. It made me wonder what she could have doe had she been able to attend college and get a career. I mean she did have a great life and my grandfather ddi treat her as his equal but in these times, I have no doubt she would have gone to college and gotten a degree on her own.

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CleverToad  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:53:30pm

re: #158 Birth Control Works

I’d rather he go and I pay the co-pay etc on the visit than to have it rupture in the night.

HORROR!

Many fingers crossed for your son, and for you! Will be watching for updates with wincing sympathy.

My son had a burst appendix at age four — twelve days in hospital, two surgeries. Started throwing up Monday night, we took him to ER first thing Tuesday morning. (Didn’t know throwing up was a symptom of appendicitis or we’d’ve gone in Monday night) Surgery Tuesday afternoon; then had to do a mad dash to a different hospital 30 miles across town to see my mom on Wednesday morning, before she went under for a quad bypass. Kid had the second surgery a week later to fix an adhesion. It was a not good experience.

EDIT: Kid came out of it okay, mind you! Laparoscopic so only a few small holes, and he healed well once they fixed the adhesion. MY nerves took a beating, though.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:53:37pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

There’s suddenly activity in that @StephenMillerAL account.

Protected.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:54:24pm
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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:54:29pm

There’s so much going on in this tweet… It’s a rather unusual way for a president to make a policy statement regarding a political prisoner. But then, the look on her face, compared to everyone else… that’s just amazing

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:55:42pm

re: #220 KGxvi

There’s so much going on in this tweet… It’s a rather unusual way for a president to make a policy statement regarding a political prisoner. But then, the look on her face, compared to everyone else… that’s just amazing

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Rubio’s face is uh interesting.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:56:00pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Bannon promised not to wear his Fourth Reich t-shirt I hope too.

That dude with the Hungarian badge.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:56:23pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Rubio’s face is uh interesting.

Yes. And DT needs to lose the thumb.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:56:52pm

Good ole days . .

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:57:29pm

re: #220 KGxvi

The tweet is all he will do. AFAIK he has not nominated an ambassador to Venezuela, and State is a complete shambles now. Nothing will happen.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:58:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:58:05pm

re: #222 Stanley Sea

That dude with the Hungarian badge.

Yeah I heard about that. There’s unfortunately a lot of ugly antisemitism still in Eastern Europe. Hungary is really bad.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 8:58:24pm

re: #223 retired cynic

Yes. And DT needs to lose the thumb.

Yep.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:01:01pm

re: #220 KGxvi

Why does he have his thumb up? Involuntary reflex?

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:01:06pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Miller’s best strategy would have been to leave things as they are. But he just had to cover up…

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:01:27pm

THUMBS UP FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:01:27pm
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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:01:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:02:23pm

re: #230 Nyet

Miller’s best strategy would have been to leave things as they are. But he just had to cover up…

This looks very suspicious to say the least.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:03:00pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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Yep, I’m with Pierce. I’m sorry but I’m not eager to sympathize with these people. And I have no problem calling them idiots who got conned.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:03:44pm

re: #233 MsJ

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Of course, they don’t. TEam GOP must come first and the country comes third or fourth. Depends on their favorite football team.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:04:30pm

re: #225 wheat-dogg

The tweet is all he will do. AFAIK he has not nominated an ambassador to Venezuela, and State is a complete shambles now. Nothing will happen.

We actually haven’t had an ambassador to Venezuela since 2010. Of course, checking the list of US ambassadors, that seems to be the least of our problems… “vacant since January 20, 2017” is very busy.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:05:49pm

The coyotes have started singing this evening. The wind has settled down, and the sound carries.

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prairiefire  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:06:50pm

re: #155 Birth Control Works

Kid’s getting a catscan et al.

(Ggt). My girl had her’s out two years ago. Very little post op difficulties. The surgeon was dead on his feet when he spoke to us post op as she was the 10th or 11th they had done that day, he couldn’t remember. They pluck them out thru the belly button like a meatball.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:07:02pm

For archival purposes:

archive.is

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:07:04pm

re: #237 KGxvi

We actually haven’t had an ambassador to Venezuela since 2010. Of course, checking the list of US ambassadors, that seems to be the least of our problems… “vacant since January 20, 2017” is very busy.

Madero makes Chavez look like a statesman. I exaggerate but you get me.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:07:05pm

JFC

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prairiefire  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:07:18pm

re: #238 retired cynic

I love that sound.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:07:24pm

good old days

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:08:15pm

re: #240 Nyet

For archival purposes:

archive.is

Really liked getting praise from Coulter I see.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:08:22pm

re: #240 Nyet

Unprotected again. 1 like less.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:08:29pm

re: #229 jaunte

Why does he have his thumb up? Involuntary reflex?

His other hand is on her ass, thus her expression.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:08:42pm
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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:08:56pm

But the Duke like still intact.

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darthstar  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:09:05pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

He hasn’t tweeted since July 2016

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:09:09pm

re: #237 KGxvi

We actually haven’t had an ambassador to Venezuela since 2010. Of course, checking the list of US ambassadors, that seems to be the least of our problems… “vacant since January 20, 2017” is very busy.

Trump is too busy tweeting and holding rallies to deal with such petty things as nominating ambassadors.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:09:32pm

re: #249 Nyet

But the Duke like still intact.

And still following Duke.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:09:54pm

re: #250 darthstar

He hasn’t tweeted since July 2016

He has tweeted today.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:09:55pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:10:04pm

re: #217 CleverToad

Many fingers crossed for your son, and for you! Will be watching for updates with wincing sympathy.

My son had a burst appendix at age four — twelve days in hospital, two surgeries. Started throwing up Monday night, we took him to ER first thing Tuesday morning. (Didn’t know throwing up was a symptom of appendicitis or we’d’ve gone in Monday night) Surgery Tuesday afternoon; then had to do a mad dash to a different hospital 30 miles across town to see my mom on Wednesday morning, before she went under for a quad bypass. Kid had the second surgery a week later to fix an adhesion. It was a not good experience.

EDIT: Kid came out of it okay, mind you! Laparoscopic so only a few small holes, and he healed well once they fixed the adhesion. MY nerves took a beating, though.

All is good, they say he might have a virus.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:10:35pm

re: #242 Charles Johnson

JFC

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People who think like that need to be smacked. There’s no such thing as “It gets so bad, we elect a savior and all is well again”, even when FDR beat Hoover, we still had the Depression and WWII.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:10:42pm

re: #250 darthstar

He hasn’t tweeted since July 2016

Yes, he did - he deleted the more recent tweets. See the original post.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:12:07pm

re: #251 wheat-dogg

Trump is too busy tweeting and holding rallies to deal with such petty things as nominating ambassadors.

But he at least had the foresight to fire a bunch of ambassadors to many of our more important allies

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:13:21pm

re: #258 KGxvi

But he at least had the foresight to fire a bunch of ambassadors to many of our more important allies

Gotta make Melania ambassador to Slovenia.//

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:13:32pm

re: #242 Charles Johnson

JFC

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:13:50pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Gotta make Melania ambassador to Slovenia.//

She’s not leaving the tower!

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CleverToad  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:13:59pm

re: #255 Birth Control Works

All is good, they say he might have a virus.

*whew* for you!
still worth the copay

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:14:40pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Gotta make Melania ambassador to Slovenia.//

Actually, where do I apply for the job of being ambassador to the Bahamas?

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darthstar  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:15:24pm

In addition to making our drinks when we walk in the door before we even sit down, he explains the specials and then says “and Burrata” and waves his hand at me - that meant burrata and tomato over arugula…and it was good.

Our favorite restaurant - they’ll be closed like every other restaurant on the coast tomorrow - bad day to be a hungry tourist - as there’s an immigrant strike.

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:16:26pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:16:51pm

re: #242 Charles Johnson

Says someone who has clearly never lived through a time of anarchy or war.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:17:10pm

twitter version

notice he headline

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wheat-dogg  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:18:22pm

re: #258 KGxvi

But he at least had the foresight to fire a bunch of ambassadors to many of our more important allies

France, Germany, Japan, the UK, just to name a few.

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Interesting Times  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:18:30pm

re: #242 Charles Johnson

As to your tweet about America needing to do “soul-searching”, this doesn’t bode well at all:

Despite the public’s increasing misgivings about Trump’s behavior and tactics in the White House, he still beats Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in a hypothetical matchup, 42 percent to 36 percent — a fairly impressive margin for a less-than-popular president against the prominent senator.

“The slate of bad news for the administration is catching up to him, although it’s important to note that his approval rating remains sky-high among people who voted for him in November.”

Asked for whom they would vote if the 2020 election were held today, 43 percent say they would likely vote for the Democrat, while only 35 percent say they would support a second Trump term. Twenty-three percent are undecided.

How can you even begin to fix this level of willful dumb and ignorant?

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darthstar  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:19:16pm

re: #263 KGxvi

Actually, where do I apply for the job of being ambassador to the Bahamas?

I want to be ambassador to Iowa.
(I think that was the ‘country’ one of the characters in One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest wanted to go to)

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:19:24pm

re: #262 CleverToad

*whew* for you!
still worth the copay

more than that —they ran tons of tests —I bet it will cost upwards towards $1000 —new year, deductible no where near being met.

All is good tho. I also consider tests as baseline in case something else happens in the future.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:19:38pm

re: #263 KGxvi

Actually, where do I apply for the job of being ambassador to the Bahamas?

Heh I think that would probably technically be Ambassador to the U.K.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:21:24pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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I have to dogs and used to have two cats.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:21:42pm

re: #269 Interesting Times

As to your tweet about America needing to do “soul-searching”, this doesn’t bode well at all:

How can you even begin to fix this level of willful dumb and ignorant?

He could burn a coal mine and his supporters would buy his bs. His supporters quite honestly are everything wrong with our country at this time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:22:28pm

re: #270 darthstar

I want to be ambassador to Iowa.
(I think that was the ‘country’ one of the characters in One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest wanted to go to)

Thought that was Dog Day.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:22:34pm

re: #264 darthstar

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In addition to making our drinks when we walk in the door before we even sit down, he explains the specials and then says “and Burrata” and waves his hand at me - that meant burrata and tomato over arugula…and it was good.

Our favorite restaurant - they’ll be closed like every other restaurant on the coast tomorrow - bad day to be a hungry tourist - as there’s an immigrant strike.

Yum & it’s a good day for an immigrant strike.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:23:33pm

Whoever’s running the @StephenMillerAL account just added two likes — both of them are Sandy Hook truther tweets. This is starting to seem like an attempt to make it look like a fake account.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:24:34pm

re: #274 HappyWarrior

He could burn a coal mine and his supporters would buy his bs. His supporters quite honestly are everything wrong with our country at this time.

As Trump himself said: He could shot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any voters

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:24:38pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Whoever’s running the @StephenMillerAL account just added two likes — both of them are Sandy Hook truther tweets. This is starting to seem like an attempt to make it look like a fake account.

It’s definitely not a fake account though. Jesus this shit is fucking whack.

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prairiefire  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:25:52pm

So what fresh hell is in store for us tomorrow, do you suppose?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:26:02pm

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

As Trump himself said: He could shot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any voters

He was right. His asshole supporters would find a fucked up way to justify it. Unfortunately for us, Trump isn’t going to go down easily. Sigh it could have all been avoided.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:26:29pm

These are the two tweets that were just added to @StephenMillerAL’s likes:

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:27:04pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

It’s definitely not a fake account though. Jesus this shit is fucking whack.

I’m not on Twitter. How do you know who is actually behind an account?

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TedStriker  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:27:47pm

re: #260 TedStriker

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:28:03pm

re: #280 prairiefire

So what fresh hell is in store for us tomorrow, do you suppose?

I’m on Pacific Time so it has already hit before my first coffee.

Actually makes every day harder.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:28:23pm

re: #280 prairiefire

So what fresh hell is in store for us tomorrow, do you suppose?

Trump picks a fight with Kazakhstan since noted Kazakh journalist Borat Sagydiev said he had the face of a vagine.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:28:47pm

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not on Twitter. How do you know who is actually behind an account?

Twitter knows.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:28:55pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

These are the two tweets that were just added to @StephenMillerAL’s likes:

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Let me just say I hate people that go CT on tragedies like that!

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darthstar  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:29:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:29:15pm

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not on Twitter. How do you know who is actually behind an account?

I’m not either but the account looks very legit to me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:30:02pm

re: #288 retired cynic

Let me just say I hate people that go CT on tragedies like that!

I’d do probono paralegal work for any Sandy Hook parent that punches Alex Jones.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:31:44pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

I’d do probono paralegal work for any Sandy Hook parent that punches Alex Jones.

I’d rather start a GoFundMe to buy a ticket for them to fly down to Infowars HQ and confront Alex Jones on the air-Live.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:32:03pm

????

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:32:23pm

This does make me wonder when Duke tried blackmailing the GOP over Scalise. How many more Duke fanboys are in the GOP’s power structure?

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:32:35pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:33:21pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

????

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5 old white men

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:34:02pm

re: #292 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’d rather start a GoFundMe to buy a ticket for them to fly down to Infowars HQ and confront Alex Jones on the air-Live.

I’d like that too. I’d love to see Alex Jones actually called out for the pathetic shit he says. And then I’d love to see leave public life forever after being so shamed.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:34:36pm

Have a good one all —thanks for the support!

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jaunte  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:35:30pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
law.cornell.edu

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Ubiq  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:37:22pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

Is he a total asshole, because Utah really likes its assholes?

Remember, Utah was, despite being extremely red, very reluctant about Trump. For a while both McMullin and Gary Johnson looked like they were polling better.

Most people think its because the Utes who are actually religious take it pretty seriously, and some point out that the Mormons have a history with religious bans and are more sympathetic to the Muslims than you’d think.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:38:39pm

One of those Sandy Hook truther likes is now gone.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:42:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:44:36pm

re: #300 Ubiq

Remember, Utah was, despite being extremely red, very reluctant about Trump. For a while both McMullin and Gary Johnson looked like they were polling better.

Most people think its because the Utes who are actually religious take it pretty seriously, and some point out that the Mormons have a history with religious bans and are more sympathetic to the Muslims than you’d think.

I remember former GOP Senator Bob Bennett before he died having actually apologized to Muslims the way his party treated Muslims. He was staunchly conservative but seems to me aware of the ugliness of religious prejudice.

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MsJ  Feb 15, 2017 • 9:44:49pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Gotta make Melania ambassador to Slovenia.//

She’s got to make money somehow. She lost potential billions as she can’t sell her products as first lady.


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