Fox News Uses Fake “Swedish Security Adviser” With Criminal Record to Hype Trump’s Fake Swedish Terror Attack

Fake security expert hypes Trump’s fake news on Fox News
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Today we have an absolutely classic example of fake news to report, as Fox News talking head Bill O’Reilly interviews Nils Bildt, a man he identifies as “a Swedish defense and national security advisor.” O’Reilly is, of course, trying to continue hyping Donald Trump’s lies about a nonexistent Swedish terror attack, by promoting more lies that Sweden has turned into a nightmare hellscape of terror and explosions and rapes, all caused by refugees and immigrants from Muslim countries.

Just one small problem for Fox and O’Reilly; Nils Bildt is actually a convicted criminal with no connection to Swedish national security.

Yes, that’s right. Fox News tried to shore up Donald Trump’s fake news with a fake security expert. And not only that — he’s a criminal. Excellent work as usual, Bill-o.

Friday the question was the focus of debate during the conservative Fox-presenter Bill O’Reillys show, where Nils Bildt confirmed Donald Trumps negative view of Sweden. Nils Bildt was introduced by Fox as a ”Swedish defense and national security advisor”, which has caused more than a few raised eyebrows.

Marie Pisäter at the Swedish Defense Ministry says that no-one called Nils Bildt works there. ”We have no spokesman by that name”, she said. The Foreign Office also denies that he works there. ”We do not know who he is.”

Nils Bildt is the son of Sven Tolling, well know in Swedish equestrian circles. Nils Bildt emigrated from Sweden in 1994. Nine years later he changed his last name from Tolling to Bildt, and he now runs several security companies in the United States. His last known address, according to Swedish registers, is in Tokyo. It is unclear if his companies are still in business.

Nils Bildt, who spoke on Fox News about crime in Sweden, is convicted of a violent offence himself, according to documents from Arlington General District Court in Virginia. Bildt was arrested on the 19th of June, 2014, for assaulting a law enforcement person and for obstruction of justice, after threatening an official. He was sentenced to one year in prison on the 10th of November the same year. He was also convicted of public inebriation at the same time. Nils Bildt, in an e-mail to DN, says he is ”unaware of the allegations” and therefore cannot comment.

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Johan Wiktorin, a former defense analyst at the Military Intelligence and Security Service, MUST, says that he has never heard of Nils Bildt. ”He is unknown in Sweden as an expert on national security. The depiction of Sweden as a problem country in American media is a disturbing trend.”

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:08:21pm

Meh, he has a Swedish name, and is a white man. It’s not like the typical Fox Noise viewer will care beyond the race of the person or his title in the chyron.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:08:29pm

Literally everything the Trump campaign blames others for, they are actually responsible of.

Yes. I said campaign on purpose.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:11:14pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:13:22pm

re: #2 GlutenFreeJesus

Literally everything the Trump campaign blames others for, they are actually responsible of.

Yes. I said campaign on purpose.

You could make a list of everything that Hillary was accused of being or planning to do when elected and find Trump committing each one of them in comically evil fashions. Sending out fake experts to gin up a fake crisis to justify unnecessary authoritarian actions was the stuff of Bro fever dreams just six months ago, now it’s actually happening and they’re too busy fighting over the DNC chair to give a fuck.

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

Holy crap. Someone looks like she’s trying to win a Sarah Palin lookalike contest o_O

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:15:40pm

re: #5 Interesting Times

Yeesh. She looks like a cross between Kim Davis and Sarah Palin.

No, thank you.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:15:43pm

BTW. Still waiting for the war to be over.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:15:58pm

Via JMG. “The New York Times is running its first television ad in seven years during the Oscars Sunday night. The subject? The truth…”

TV Commercial | The New York Times | The Truth Is Hard

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Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:16:30pm
Bildt was arrested on the 19th of June, 2014, for assaulting a law enforcement person and for obstruction of justice, after threatening an official.

But, but, blue lives matter!!!1!

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He was sentenced to one year in prison on the 10th of November the same year.

For the sack of accuracy, and after reviewing online court records, it looks like he was sentenced to a year in jail with 11 months suspended, so he ended up with an active sentence of only a month in jail.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:18:38pm

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

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BTW. Still waiting for the war to be over.

He was hoping they would die laughing.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:19:48pm

Finally—looks like they have results (this is taking almost as long as counting CA votes in November)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:22:35pm

Tom Perez wins

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:22:45pm

And the winner who will have to deal with all the Democratic infighting for the next however many years is…

(drumroll)

Jeez—they’re bringing everyone up on stage like it’s the Miss Congeniality vote at Miss America.

Perez 235

Let the BoB bitching begin.

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:15pm

If you read the article that Charles linked to, Bildt throws O’Reilly and Fox under the bus by claiming they essentially forced that title on him.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:20pm

O’Reilly is pretending a survey stat about immigrant women is about “native” Swedes.

The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention’s annual survey stated 31 per cent of females born outside the Scandinavian country felt unsafe, compared to 25 per cent in 2015.
………
“The data collection was also carried out at a time when there were a lot of discussion about sexual abuse/assault of women and that too may have affected their sense of security.”

In total, the survey also found 30 per cent of immigrants in Sweden felt unsafe outside at night, which is a slight decrease from 10-years-ago.
……..
express.co.uk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:21pm

re: #13 BeachDem

And the winner who will have to deal with all the Democratic infighting for the next however many years is…

(drumroll)

Jeez—they’re bringing everyone up on stage like it’s the Miss Congeniality vote at Miss America.

Perez 235

Let the BoB bitching begin.

Ellison didn’t gain a single new vote in the second round.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:26pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tom Perez wins

Well I’m not going on FB for a while because i am going to be seeing a lot of whiny bullshit from the far left types I know. Congrats to Perez.

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:37pm

re: #8 stpaulbear

Via JMG. “The New York Times is running its first television ad in seven years during the Oscars Sunday night. The subject? The truth…”

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Damn

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:23:51pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tom Perez wins

And so the Bros will finally…go back to the corner to whine about how they’re gonna leave the party now and how we’ll be totally sorry they’re gone…yep, so sorry that they left…they’re not leaving, are they?

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:24:54pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ellison didn’t gain a single new vote in the second round.

I noticed that—and Brown, who got 20 on the first ballot was trying to throw hers to Ellison.

I’m sure this will engender 20 months of conspiracy theories.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:25:07pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

And so the Bros will finally…go back to the corner to whine about how they’re gonna leave the party now and how we’ll be totally sorry they’re gone…yep, so sorry that they left…they’re not leaving, are they?

You know, it would be one thing if they did leave and that’s their right. I am just tired of them insisting they’re the real base and yet they’re the ones constantly threatening to leave. I wasn’t kidding when I said I had done more to elect Democrats before 2016 than Sanders had.

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:25:54pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tom Perez wins

Civil rights lawyer, that’ll be needed. Hope he can herd cats and has a loud voice.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:26:01pm

Is it wrong that I was sort of hoping Ellison would win so they would shut up and actually have to see what happens when responsibility is thrust upon someone?

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:26:03pm

Yay! Ellison will continue to represent Minneapolis!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:26:22pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:26:38pm

re: #20 BeachDem

I noticed that—and Brown, who got 20 on the first ballot was trying to throw hers to Ellison.

I’m sure this will engender 20 months of conspiracy theories.

“THE DNC RIGGED THE VOTE! ELLISON WOULD TOTALLY HAVE WON IF BROWN COULD HAVE GIVEN HER VOTES TO HIM!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:26:48pm

re: #22 prairiefire

Civil rights lawyer, that’ll be needed. Hope he can herd cats and has a loud voice.

Yeah he’s a Civil Rights lawyer and is a huge advocate for labor too but yet according to dipshit bros, he’s a sell out. He probably was Obama’s most controversial cabinet pick by far too for being outspokenly liberal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:28:00pm

Very nice gesture by Perez

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:28:15pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very nice gesture by Perez

What did he do/say?

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blueraven  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:28:31pm

Perez suspended rules…with vote to elect Ellison Deputy chair.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:28:52pm

Ellison giving a menschy speech! Good for him.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:29:08pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Is it wrong that I was sort of hoping Ellison would win so they would shut up and actually have to see what happens when responsibility is thrust upon someone?

I think so. ;)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:29:22pm

and extremely united message Ellison sending to his people to support Perez

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:29:34pm

re: #31 BeachDem

Ellison giving a menschy speech! Good for him.

He’s not a bad guy and he IS a solid Democrat. He knew what was up and he knows Perez is legit too. It’s the bros that are the problem here more so than the candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:30:05pm

re: #32 stpaulbear

I think so. ;)

Heh it was very tongue in cheek TBH with you but I really want these people to see that even when their heroes win that things aren’t so simple.

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KGxvi  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:30:34pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

You could make a list of everything that Hillary was accused of being or planning to do when elected and find Trump committing each one of them in comically evil fashions. Sending out fake experts to gin up a fake crisis to justify unnecessary authoritarian actions was the stuff of Bro fever dreams just six months ago, now it’s actually happening and they’re too busy fighting over the DNC chair to give a fuck.

Republicans in the 21st Century: more projection than IMAX IN SPACE

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:30:43pm

What do you want from Billo, he’s just Borat’s little brother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:30:46pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

What did he do/say?

Motion to appoint Ellison as Deputy DNC chair. Perez asked for it by acclamation.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:31:27pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

and extremely united message Ellison sending to his people to support Perez

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:31:51pm

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:32:06pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Motion to appoint Ellison as Deputy DNC chair. Perez asked for it by acclamation.

Very classy gesture on his part. And this right here is why I like the Democratic Party. A Dominican immigrant’s son is the chair of the party and an African-American Muslim is vice chair. The Democratic Party in both its hierarchy and its rank and file IS America.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:32:27pm

re: #39 BeachDem

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KGxvi  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:32:31pm

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

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BTW. Still waiting for the war to be over.

Remember, Nixon had a secret plan to win the war Vietnam… it just turned out to be “bomb the everloving shit out of everything.” My guess is that was Trump’s plan and the career military people told him, “uh, nope, that’s not how we roll.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:32:45pm

re: #40 Interesting Times

Ha:

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Troll level Weigel.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:33:42pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:33:46pm
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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:33:48pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

He’s not a bad guy and he IS a solid Democrat. He knew what was up and he knows Perez is legit too. It’s the bros that are the problem here more so than the candidate.

Watch the Bros turn on Ellison now, calling him a “sellout” too…

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:33:53pm

re: #40 Interesting Times

Ha:

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The fuck is this guy’s problem? Bernie fanboy?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:34:58pm

Imagine my shock that it’s predominately white people especially white guys saying that Perez’s election as party chair is the death of the party.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:35:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:35:22pm

LOL
Perez: “I want to apologize to the media because we just talked about issues. Sorry, that’s what we do.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:35:32pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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And that right there is why I would have been happy if Keith had won too.

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:35:41pm

Oh, boy…

re: #48 Mattand

No, he’s being snarky.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:35:48pm

re: #48 Mattand

The fuck is this guy’s problem? Bernie fanboy?

Weigel’s a smartass Matt.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:36:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:36:45pm

re: #50 FormerDirtDart

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And I totally expect some of my “progressive” friends to post that totally not aware that they’re being trolled.

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blueraven  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:36:52pm

re: #48 Mattand

The fuck is this guy’s problem? Bernie fanboy?

calm down. It is Weigel joke snark.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:37:08pm

From Weigel’s timeline:

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:37:47pm

Kinda says it all:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:37:51pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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Obama? You mean the President that got many of its health care, that advocated for marriage equality for many of our loved ones, that camp? Yeah maybe they know what the fuck they’re doing and they’re not bad people. Man I’m sick of this brand of progressivism. Stop being selfish assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:39:00pm

From 1995 until 1998, Perez worked as Democratic Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy’s principal adviser on civil rights, criminal justice, and constitutional issues.[23] For the final two years of the Clinton administration, he worked as the Director of the Office for Civil Rights at the United States Department of Health and Human Services.[24]
This is your DNC middle of the road sell out.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:39:06pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Obama? You mean the President that got many of its health care, that advocated for marriage equality for many of our loved ones, that camp? Yeah maybe they know what the fuck they’re doing and they’re not bad people. Man I’m sick of this brand of progressivism. Stop being selfish assholes.

It’s all about BoB now…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:39:33pm

Montgomery County Council[edit]
In 2002, Perez ran for the county council of Montgomery County, Maryland from its 5th district, which covers Silver Spring, Kensington, Takoma Park, and Wheaton. His main challenge was the Democratic primary, where he faced Sally Sternbach, the head of the Silver Spring Citizens Advisory Board and the Greater Silver Spring’s Chamber of Commerce.[27] He beat Sternbach with the support of the AFL-CIO and other labor groups.[27][28] He faced Republican Dennis E. Walsh in the general election and won with 76% of the vote, becoming the first Hispanic elected to the Council.[29]

Perez was on the council from 2002 to 2006.[30] During that time, he was on the committees for Health and Human Services, and Transportation and the Environment.[31] He also served as council president from 2004 to 2005.[32] With council member Mike Subin, Perez pushed for legislation limiting predatory lending.[33] The law allowed the county’s Commission on Human Rights to investigate and prosecute loan brokers and third-party lenders engaging in predatory lending, raised the cap on compensation for victims, and required the commission to release an annual report on discriminatory and subprime lending in the county.[34]

Perez opposed the privatization of the non-profit health insurer CareFirst, a non-stock holding, independent licensee of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association that provided coverage in Maryland, Delaware, Washington D.C., and Virginia.[35][36] He lobbied for support on the county council and in the Maryland General Assembly against the sale of CareFirst to Wellpoint Health Networks, Inc.[35] He led the council to a unanimous vote against the acquisition, leading to the rejection of the merger by Maryland’s Commissioner of Insurance.[37]

In 2004, Perez, and fellow council member Marilyn Praisner introduced an initiative to provide affordable prescription drugs for county employees and retirees,[38] setting up a voluntary program to import high-quality, lower priced prescription drugs from suppliers in Canada approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).[39] The initiative was overwhelmingly passed by the council, though Montgomery County was denied a waiver by the FDA thorough the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act,[40] leading to a lawsuit by Montgomery County against Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt, where the U.S. District Court for Maryland granted the FDA the right to dismiss.[41]

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:39:49pm

re: #47 TedStriker

Watch the Bros turn on Ellison now, calling him a “sellout” too…

I was talking earlier today that Dems need to run the table in 2018 in order to have the tiniest glimmer of hope that this country can be brought back from the brink.

I just don’t see it happening. Between the BoBs infesting the party right now; the fact that young people don’t vote in the midterms; and that old conservatives vote in droves in the midterms? Just don’t see it happening.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:40:17pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart

It’s all about BoB now…

It sure is and I’m tired of it. I wish Bernie had never ran for President if I had known he was going to create a base of brats that use someone’s position on the primary to determine someone’s contributions to the Democratic/Progressive cause.

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Kragar  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:40:20pm
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Belafon  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:40:28pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:40:43pm

re: #53 Moebym

Gracias.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:40:43pm

re: #64 Mattand

I was talking earlier today that Dems need to run the table in 2018 in order to have the tiniest glimmer of hope that this country can be brought back from the brink.

I just don’t see it happening. Between the BoBs infesting the party right now; the fact that young people don’t vote in the midterms; and that old conservatives vote in droves in the midterms? Just don’t see it happening.

Don’t underestimate how pissed off people are right now.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:41:08pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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They decided Obama was the enemy right around the time that he failed to be their purity unicorn, so roughly mid-2009. They’re the ones we heard ranting in 2012 that we needed to primary Obama so that we’d either get a “true progressive” on the ticket or would move him further to the left.

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CriticalDragon1177  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:41:49pm

Charles Johnson,

“Fox News” is more like “Fox Right Wing Propaganda.” Its not “fair and balanced news,” it’s wingnut idiocy!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:42:10pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

They decided Obama was the enemy right around the time that he failed to be their purity unicorn, so roughly mid-2009. They’re the ones we heard ranting in 2012 that we needed to primary Obama so that we’d either get a “true progressive” on the ticket or would move him further to the left.

And Sanders dishonestly equated Hillary running against Obama in 2008 when the primary was anyone’s game to his suggestion that someone should have primaried Obama in 2012. I consider myself a staunch liberal but there’s a part of the left that I really really dislike.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:42:15pm

re: #66 Kragar

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:42:50pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:42:55pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Very classy gesture on his part. And this right here is why I like the Democratic Party. A Dominican immigrant’s son is the chair of the party and an African-American Muslim is vice chair. The Democratic Party in both its hierarchy and its rank and file IS America.

…which, I think, contributed to the racist backlash trash fire that was 2016 :( You were correct when you said populist economic policies were most popular with the WWC when they were the only ones who benefited. The fiendish evil perpetrated by Nixon/Reagan was the Southern Strategy propaganda that a) Got these people to see the programs that helped them as “free-loading” for minority groups b) See the GOP as saviors of the white race, all the while gutting union protections and social services that helped the WWC have a decent life in the first place.

And then along comes trump, promising to restore the whites-only populism. No wonder it worked. The Democrats’ job moving forward? What Zeynep Tufekci says here:

You don’t (and can’t) win over the entire WWC. But I believe she’s right when she says you can peel away those on the fringes with the right message.

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:43:14pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Thanks!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:45:56pm

re: #75 Interesting Times

…which, I think, contributed to the racist backlash trash fire that was 2016 :( You were correct when you said populist economic policies were most popular with the WWC when they were the only ones who benefited. The fiendish evil perpetrated by Nixon/Reagan was the Southern Strategy propaganda that a) Got these people to see the programs that helped them as “free-loading” for minority groups b) See the GOP as saviors of the white race, all the while gutting union protections and social services that helped the WWC have a decent life in the first place.

And then along comes trump, promising to restore the whites-only populism. No wonder it worked. The Democrats’ job moving forward? What Zeynep Tufekci says here:

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You don’t (and can’t) win over the entire WWC. But I believe she’s right when she says you can peel away those on the fringes with the right message.

Which I think is something that a lot of my fellow especially white male progressives don’t want to admit. I think they romanticize the WWC since so many of our families have their genesis in that. I know that’s the case for my especially my mom’s family. Immigrant miners who were a huge part of the Roosevelt coalition. Not only did Nixon/Reagan do what you mention but they also falsely convinced these people that their successes were due to them alone and not the help of evil big government. I do agree with Zeyhep is saying.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:46:00pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

It sure is and I’m tired of it. I wish Bernie had never ran for President if I had known he was going to create a base of brats that use someone’s position on the primary to determine someone’s contributions to the Democratic/Progressive cause.

If Sanders was aware, he’d come out quickly with a statement of support for Perez.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:46:07pm

Made a comment to klys at the end of the last thread (of course)…and I want to post it again as it relates to today’s election for a DNC chairperson.

Klys posted this in response to Interesting Times:

We can play all kinds of what ifs. But to some extent, if you know someone who was disillusioned and therefore didn’t vote, even in the face of Trump, I would posit the problem was not with Obama.

Nobody gets everything they want in politics. Democratic voters in particular seem to need to understand that lesson and fast, and stop riding their damned purity ponies into defeating themselves.

I commented in reply:

Look at all the conservatives that ran to support Trump even when they knew he was way flawed.

Look at all the liberal/progressives that ran away from Hillary because she was flawed.

In that brief look we see the problems between the two sides of the political spectrum.

We need a little more of that stick-togetherness.

They need a little less.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:46:29pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

If Sanders was aware, he’d come out quickly with a statement of support for Perez.

Not holding my breath.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:46:35pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

They decided Obama was the enemy right around the time that he failed to be their purity unicorn, so roughly mid-2009. They’re the ones we heard ranting in 2012 that we needed to primary Obama so that we’d either get a “true progressive” on the ticket or would move him further to the left.

To be clear, it was Bernie who said Obama needed to be primaried.

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:47:25pm

Gaaaaah, someone complained that Perez isn’t inspiring enough.

Why should we give a flying fuck if the DNC chair is inspiring to us personally?

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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:47:52pm
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Kragar  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:48:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:48:14pm

re: #82 Moebym

Gaaaaah, someone complained that Perez isn’t inspiring enough.

Why should we give a flying fuck if the DNC chair is inspiring to us personally?

Now, they’re just looking for reasons to complain. Was James Farley “inspiring.” No but he got Democrats elected. That’s literally Perez’s one job.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:48:23pm

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

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BTW. Still waiting for the war to be over.

He eated the plan!!! Oh noes!

(Look at that gut…fittest president ever!)

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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:48:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:49:01pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

If Sanders was aware, he’d come out quickly with a statement of support for Perez.

yeah Bernie, because Tom Perez is so clueless about the working class.

good fucking grief.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:49:27pm

I’m glad Ellison isn’t going to be DNC chair. I have nothing against him personally, but he would have been an extremely polarizing person for that position.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:49:39pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

If Sanders was aware, he’d come out quickly with a statement of support for Perez.

He’ll either remain silent, give a lackluster “rah rah team” speech, or (most likely) he’ll spin Ellison’s loss as proof that the party needs to turn to him because he’s the only purity unicorn that the party needs and those who do not worship at his feet are not “true progressives.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:49:44pm

re: #83 gocart mozart

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Yeah that’s why I’m amused as hell about Bernie being called the future. He’s literally been in office since before many of these people were born. I wasn’t even in Kindergarten when Bernie first went to D.C. and I’ve been voting for over a decade now. Bernie’s Washington too, he just hasn’t been successful in it and honestly I think a lot of the reasons for it are self-inflicted.

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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:49:51pm

Joke shamelessly stolen from Bill Hicks.
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Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:50:10pm

re: #82 Moebym

Gaaaaah, someone complained that Perez isn’t inspiring enough.

Why should we give a flying fuck if the DNC chair is inspiring to us personally?

Jesus Christ, how many people could even name a former DNC chair? I can only name three: T-Mac, Howard Dean, and Tim Kaine.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:51:14pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah Bernie, because Tom Perez is so clueless about the working class.

good fucking grief.

I’m really tired of him acting like HE is the only one who understands the working class. Got news for you, Bernie, you’re not. Please stop acting like you’re the only voice of the working class of the Democratic Party (I know he’s still not a Democrat, proving my point even more).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:51:46pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

He’ll either remain silent, give a lackluster “rah rah team” speech, or (most likely) he’ll spin Ellison’s loss as proof that the party needs to turn to him because he’s the only purity unicorn that the party needs and those who do not worship at his feet are not “true progressives.”

BWS just posted it. He did congratulate him but with the usual snide bs that I dislike about him and why I think he’s not a good leader.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:51:48pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Not holding my breath.

That’s why I added the disclaimer. I don’t think that Bernie is really all that aware of anything that happens outside of his own bubble. Watching him sit in his chair like a grump during the democratic convention speeches was kind of revealing.

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:52:16pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

They decided Obama was the enemy right around the time that he failed to be their purity unicorn, so roughly mid-2009. They’re the ones we heard ranting in 2012 that we needed to primary Obama so that we’d either get a “true progressive” on the ticket or would move him further to the left.

There’s one blog I read where seemingly 95% of the commentariat are utterly convinced that Obama and Clinton are Republican monsters that were as dangerous or actually more dangerous than Trump.

It’s like dealing with the white working class who keep fucking themselves over by voting GOP; I have no idea if it’s even possible to get through to these people.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:52:26pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah Bernie, because Tom Perez is so clueless about the working class.

good fucking grief.

Well Bernie, if the recent articles the NYT has been pumping out are any indication, the working class bought a bag of what they thought were magic beans and are finding out that they’re rabbit turds. Meanwhile the young voters are too stoned to give a shit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:52:38pm

re: #93 Timothy Watson

Jesus Christ, how many people could even name a former DNC chair? I can only name three: T-Mac, Howard Dean, and Tim Kaine.

DWS. But other than that I got nothing. A good party chair is like a good umpire or referee, if they’re doing their job, you appreciate it but you don’t know or care who the fuck they are.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:53:15pm

LOL, this guy has been trying to bait me since I dropped the mic on him yesterday. So butthurt.

Nope, not responding.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:53:23pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tom Perez wins

re: #13 BeachDem

And the winner who will have to deal with all the Democratic infighting for the next however many years is…

(drumroll)

Jeez—they’re bringing everyone up on stage like it’s the Miss Congeniality vote at Miss America.

Perez 235

Let the BoB bitching begin.

And once again the Bernies come up short.

I hope the Bernie folks get their shit together and work this out of their systems. You lost. Again. Just like you lost in the primaries.

Are you going to cry for two more years???

How about doing something worthwhile instead of worthless, hmm. Like grown-ups do when they face decisions.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:53:38pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Well Bernie, if the recent articles the NYT has been pumping out are any indication, the working class bought a bag of what they thought were magic beans and are finding out that they’re rabbit turds. Meanwhile the young voters are too stoned to give a shit.

I actually think some of the younger voters I know are more practical minded. It’s some of the older voters that really do the worst purity shit but I admit that’s strictly anecdotal. The young woman I’m working with on the Perriello campaign is a recent grad.

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MsJ  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:53:47pm

re: #39 BeachDem

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:54:25pm

re: #53 Moebym

Oh, boy…

Sorry Jennifer. No healing possible when the same ole crap is going to happen. We need a real progressive to lead.

— Bill Disch (@WHDISCH) February 25, 2017

Another fucking purity pony Bro…fuck them, they helped to give us Trump, and for that, I’ll never miss an opportunity to rub their goddamn noses in it. Because, even if they’re too damn smug and/or dense to understand, their asses are in the fire too, as much as anyone else’s.

I’m also not gonna refrain from posting this righteous rant by Steve Shives (whose Star Trek: TNG-themed YT clip, “Why Captain Jellico Is Actually Pretty Awesome”, I’ve posted before), because it applies as much to BoBers like this as it does to the Trumpiots who are starting to get their own oxen gored:

To Anti-SJWs Finally Turning on Trump

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:55:12pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

One of my friends thinks Bernie will be the one, with Liz Warren, to move us into a more progressive future. So…what’s he done, exactly?

Bernie’s as establishment as they get, but he’s like Anti-Establishment Jesus to some starry-eyed people.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:55:23pm

re: #104 TedStriker

Another fucking purity pony Bro…fuck them, they helped to give us Trump, and for that, I’ll never miss an opportunity to rub their goddamn noses in it. Because, even if they’re too damn smug and/or dense to understand, their asses are in the fire too, as much as anyone else’s.

I’m also not gonna refrain from posting this righteous rant by Steve Shives (whose Star Trek: TNG-themed YT clip, “Why Captain Jellico Is Actually Pretty Awesome”, I’ve posted before), because it applies as much to BoBers like this as it does to the Trumpiots who are starting to get their own oxen gored:

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Oh I didn’t know that guy’s name. I liked his rant when I saw it last night.

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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:55:33pm
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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:56:08pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

From 1995 until 1998, Perez worked as Democratic Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy’s principal adviser on civil rights, criminal justice, and constitutional issues.[23] For the final two years of the Clinton administration, he worked as the Director of the Office for Civil Rights at the United States Department of Health and Human Services.[24]
This is your DNC middle of the road sell out.

Yep—

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:57:43pm

OT Nasty storm headed toward Philly. weather.gov

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:57:57pm

re: #100 Nyet

Funny what a reliable guide to douchiness it is when someone calls himself “stud”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:58:03pm

re: #105 Moebym

One of my friends thinks Bernie will be the one, with Liz Warren, to move us into a more progressive future. So…what’s he done, exactly?

Bernie’s as establishment as they get, but he’s like Anti-Establishment Jesus to some starry-eyed people.

Yeah honestly I can’t name one signature legislation that Bernie has in his time in Congress. Biden co-authored the violence against women act, he was the chairman of the judiciary commtiee when Bork was rejected, he worked on the Americans with Disabilies Act, etc. It’s nice that he has a good voting record but what makes him a leader that stands out. I honestly had my doubts about how he would be as President ans I said during the spring, if I’m having those doubts, what are more moderate minded Americans who don’t understand the nuances of so called Dem socialism versus what happened in the USSR going to think though I will agree with Sergey’s belief that Bernie acutally isn’t a socialist like he claims.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:58:41pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Is it wrong that I was sort of hoping Ellison would win so they would shut up and actually have to see what happens when responsibility is thrust upon someone?

A teeny tiny bit wrong.

And only because they haven’t accepted any responsibility about helping to thrust Trump on America…and themselves. I don’t think some of them are ever capable of taking responsibility, they just make excuses.

Safe Spaces are all up in their heads.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:58:51pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

It sure is and I’m tired of it. I wish Bernie had never ran for President if I had known he was going to create a base of brats that use someone’s position on the primary to determine someone’s contributions to the Democratic/Progressive cause.

Some of them are saying that they’re so tired of losing as Democrats (they do have short attention spans) that they’re going to start their own party—so they can lose even more.

Somebody suggested they join Jill Stein and the Greens so they can get their funding from Putin. Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:59:05pm

re: #107 gocart mozart

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Your grandfather won those medals, Paul, not you. That’s nice that your grandfather wasn’t a Nazi dickbag but it doesn’t prove anything about you especially when you have fucking dipshit Spencer going hail Trump talking about “peaceful ethnic cleansing.” FO.

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:59:37pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

OT Nasty storm headed toward Philly. weather.gov

Starting to get dark here in South Jersey as well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:59:48pm

re: #108 BeachDem

Yep—

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If Hillary had won, he probably would be AG of the whole department right now and a damn good one. At the very least, a huge improvement over Sessions.

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 12:59:52pm

re: #97 Mattand

I stumbled upon one of those blogs - Ian Welsh’s, I think it was. It was unbearable, the commentariat’s unbridled contempt for Obama and the Clintons.

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sagehen  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:00:23pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Remember, Nixon had a secret plan to win the war Vietnam… it just turned out to be “bomb the everloving shit out of everything.” My guess is that was Trump’s plan and the career military people told him, “uh, nope, that’s not how we roll.”

And Josh Lyman had a secret plan to beat inflation.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:00:36pm

My FB is bearable so far. Perhaps because Perez did make Ellison his deputy.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:00:39pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

They decided Obama was the enemy right around the time that he failed to be their purity unicorn, so roughly mid-2009. They’re the ones we heard ranting in 2012 that we needed to primary Obama so that we’d either get a “true progressive” on the ticket or would move him further to the left.

I believe it was Bernie who led the movement to try to primary Obama in 2012. Such a Democrat!

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:00:49pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I actually think some of the younger voters I know are more practical minded. It’s some of the older voters that really do the worst purity shit but I admit that’s strictly anecdotal. The young woman I’m working with on the Perriello campaign is a recent grad.

I’m a bit more jaded right now. Most of the younger voters I met this past year were of the “voting doesn’t change anything, so I won’t bother” variety. But I admit my sample size was a bit small.

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MsJ  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:01:32pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

If Sanders was aware….

HAHAHAHA.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:01:36pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

I’m a bit more jaded right now. Most of the younger voters I met this past year were of the “voting doesn’t change anything, so I won’t bother” variety. But I admit my sample size was a bit small.

I do see a little of both and I admti the people I’m talking about are friends from my time at GMU who were already politically involved.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:01:50pm
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MsJ  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:02:11pm

re: #79 ObserverArt

Made a comment to klys at the end of the last thread (of course)…and I want to post it again as it relates to today’s election for a DNC chairperson.

Klys posted this in response to Interesting Times:

I commented in reply:

Look at all the conservatives that ran to support Trump even when they knew he was way flawed.

Look at all the liberal/progressives that ran away from Hillary because she was flawed.

In that brief look we see the problems between the two sides of the political spectrum.

We need a little more of that stick-togetherness.

They need a little less.

Excellent. Worth repeating.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:02:27pm

re: #120 BeachDem

I believe it was Bernie who led the movement to try to primary Obama in 2012. Such a Democrat!

Pretty petty to encourage that when you weren’t even you know a member of that party. I admit it, I can see why people don’t like Sanders. And it really should trouble his fans that if someone as left as me can see it.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:02:39pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

If Sanders was aware, he’d come out quickly with a statement of support for Perez.

Why would he? As soon as Trump had the election in the bag, Sanders dropped his Democratic party affiliation (that he only did out of convenience for the primaries and general) like a bad habit and went back to being an “Independent” officially.

Seriously, fuck Bernie and fuck his Bros, twice on Sunday.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:02:57pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

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Classy response.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:03:06pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

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He just showed more class in one statement than Bernie did all last year.

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makeitstop  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:03:22pm

re: #75 Interesting Times

You don’t (and can’t) win over the entire WWC. But I believe she’s right when she says you can peel away those on the fringes with the right message.

The best way to win these people over to vote against the GOP?

Give them what they understand. Tell them, again and again, that the GOP betrayed them. That they were stabbed in the back. And that given a second chance, the GOP will betray them again.

You don’t have to tell anyone the truth (that they were gullible and stupid enough to actively vote against their own best interest). Tell them their health care money went into the pockets of the members of Trump’s cabinet. That Trump betrayed them.

Repeat as often and as loudly as necessary.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:05:06pm

re: #127 TedStriker

Why would he? As soon as Trump had the election in the bag, Sanders dropped his Democratic party affiliation (that he only did out of convenience for the primaries and general) like a bad habit and went back to being an “Independent” officially.

Seriously, fuck Bernie and fuck his Bros, twice on Sunday.

Bernie filed paperwork to run for reelection as an indie months before he officially conceded the nomination. He knew he wasn’t going to win, but he kept milking the rubes for weeks. This is the same guy who sabotaged the Vermont DNC by running for their nomination, winning, then immediately changing his party affiliation just so he could run effectively unopposed.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:05:18pm

Of course BoB will be BoB, and become incensed about this…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:05:50pm

I do find it funny that my one Berner friend is posting a Sanders tweet about change happening not from the top down but from the ground up. Nice sentiment. I’d like to see Sanders actually practice that himself and encourage his supporters to.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:06:14pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

Of course BoB will be BoB, and become incensed about this…

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I guess Vlad had money on Ellison winning the chairmanship.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:06:31pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Well Bernie, if the recent articles the NYT has been pumping out are any indication, the working class bought a bag of what they thought were magic beans and are finding out that they’re rabbit turds. Meanwhile the young voters are too stoned to give a shit.

Well, not for long if Trump keeps his word on his MJ crackdown.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:06:31pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

Of course BoB will be BoB, and become incensed about this…

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How dare Perez have a preference in his party’s primary? THE AUDACITY!

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Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:07:07pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

Of course BoB will be BoB, and become incensed about this…

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I’m old enough to remember when Weigel was the conservative token at The Washington Post.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:07:17pm

re: #75 Interesting Times

This ignores large swing to Trump from under $30K group.

Hillary won under $30,000 53-41%—it was her biggest margin in income groups

nytimes.com

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:07:30pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

Of course BoB will be BoB, and become incensed about this…

[New #DNCChair Tom Perez: 18 Podesta Emails show him working for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders]

But what about Podesta’s recipes????

/

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:08:28pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

Bernie filed paperwork to run for reelection as an indie months before he officially conceded the nomination. He knew he wasn’t going to win, but he kept milking the rubes for weeks. This is the same guy who sabotaged the Vermont DNC by running for their nomination, winning, then immediately changing his party affiliation just so he could run effectively unopposed.

It’s my understanding that Sanders raised millions for his last re-election when he had one of the safest re-elections of anyone out there. Makes a lot of his rhetoric about big money hollow to me. That’s the thing though. Sanders in many ways is a TYPICAL politician but his diehards don’t want to see it and they want to see everyone else . I freely saw Clinton for what she is, someone who is part of the system, someone does take corporate money, etc I didn’t delude myself into thinking she was pure as snow but the Berners?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:09:11pm

re: #137 Timothy Watson

I’m old enough to remember when Weigel was the conservative token at The Washington Post.

I always thought of him as the libertarian token at the The Washington Post.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:09:52pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I’m glad Ellison isn’t going to be DNC chair. I have nothing against him personally, but he would have been an extremely polarizing person for that position.

Not only that, but after the complete shitshow that was DWS’ tenure as DNC chair (which gave us the Bernie problem to begin with), I don’t want a DNC chair that’s a sitting federal official, because when you’re trying to do both as a jack-of-all-trades, you end up being a master of none.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:10:02pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah Bernie, because Tom Perez is so clueless about the working class.

good fucking grief.

He just doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up—should have just stopped after the first tweet, but…he always has to have a but.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:10:27pm

re: #135 TedStriker

Well, not for long if Trump keeps his word on his MJ crackdown.

They’ll find a way to blame the DNC, probably saying they’re not fighting “hard enough” to stop Trump, just so they can continue to believe both sides are “corporate shills.”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:11:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:11:15pm

re: #142 TedStriker

Not only that, but after the complete shitshow that was DWS’ tenure as DNC chair (which gave us the Bernie problem to begin with), I don’t want a DNC chair that’s a sitting federal official, because when you’re trying to do both as a jack-of-all-trades, you end up being a master of none.

Ellison was going to resign his seat. That was why I had a problem with Ellison at first too though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:11:40pm

re: #143 BeachDem

He just doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up—should have just stopped after the first tweet, but…he always has to have a but.

He really thinks he’s the only voice for the working class in Washington and I’m beyond tired of it.

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Mattand  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:12:14pm

re: #117 Moebym

I stumbled upon one of those blogs - Ian Welsh’s, I think it was. It was unbearable, the commentariat’s unbridled contempt for Obama and the Clintons.

The blog I had in mind was Pharnyngula. Same mindset, though. One guy claiming to be African-American and gay stated he would feel safer under a Trump administration than a Clinton one.

Again, how do you reason with someone like that?

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:12:41pm

re: #93 Timothy Watson

Jesus Christ, how many people could even name a former DNC chair? I can only name three: T-Mac, Howard Dean, and Tim Kaine.

Heh. Already forgot Debbie have you???

: )

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Kragar  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:12:44pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:13:17pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

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Film creator D’Souza was a triple threat, winning for worst film, worst director and worst actor for his appearance in the film.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:13:45pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

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Hahahaha congrats DInesh though.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:14:04pm

A political party full of criminals has a senior criminal mouthpiece interview another criminal in support of their criminal ideology based on lies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:14:15pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

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You know that’s going to set him into a rage. The guy has severe anger problems according to one of the judges who dealt with him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:16:11pm

re: #150 Kragar

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Sure the Dems learned something: the far-left ain’t doing jack shit for the party, so catering to them is an electoral loser. That they could have won votes in the Rust Belt with a more moderate platform, but instead lost them to “economic justice” BS.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:16:53pm

The thing honestly is guys I have a lot of the same goals of these people. I’d be happy with us being more like the Nordic countries in a lot of things but I’m a pragmatist. I know how hard it was for Obama to sell ACA so I know universal isn’t exactly going to be an easy sell either. When FDR proposed SS, we didn’t get medicare until 30 years later. What we do is we keep on improving things. Obviously, we put up a big fight when it’s something crucial like civil rights for all who live in our country but we have to realize things too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:17:53pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

Sure the Dems learned something: the far-left ain’t doing jack shit for the party, so catering to them is an electoral loser. That they could have won votes in the Rust Belt with a more moderate platform, but instead lost them to “economic justice” BS.

They don’t see that Feingold actually underperformed Clinton in WI as did many other Progressive favorites in states like that. It disappointed me too because Feingold back in the Senate would have been a huge boom.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:18:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:19:29pm

Anyhow time to work out.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:23:30pm

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

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“AG Sessions, we’ve now evidence that Sec. Pruitt committed perjury during his testimony before Congress.”
“Is he a Republican?”
“Well, yes sir, but…”
“Then what’s the problem?”

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b_sharp  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:32:06pm

re: #100 Nyet

LOL, this guy has been trying to bait me since I dropped the mic on him yesterday. So butthurt.

Nope, not responding.

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It frustrates & pisses them off when you don’t answer so it’s a good move.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:32:58pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Ellison was going to resign his seat. That was why I had a problem with Ellison at first too though.

I’d bet that a lot of Ellison’s constituents would have been pissed off if he had won, resigned, and left them to start over with a new representative.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:34:56pm

Dems don’t need the deplorables. They need better outreach to groups that don’t vote. Appeasing conservative scum will lead this party to further ruin.

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KGxvi  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:39:53pm

re: #118 sagehen

And Josh Lyman had a secret plan to beat inflation.

That was one of my favorite episodes

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:40:33pm

re: #164 Amory Blaine

Dems don’t need the deplorables. They need better outreach to groups that don’t vote. Appeasing conservative scum will lead this party to further ruin.

Abso-fricking-lutely. The attempt to reach out to so-called “moderate” GOP voters was by far the dumbest Dem move of 2016. There are no, I repeat, no moderate GOPers left. Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is 85-90% so fuck the whole sorry lot of them with Vladimir Putin’s dick.

Worry about the base and independent voters instead.

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:41:09pm

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like something the tide washed in. “And it smells daddy!” I know honey. Just don’t go near it.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:41:20pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I freely saw Clinton for what she is, someone who is part of the system, someone does take corporate money, etc I didn’t delude myself into thinking she was pure as snow but the Berners?

Yeah, me too, and my feeling was “so what”? What burns me (pun intended) most about the BoB crowd is what seemed to be an utter disregard for the realities of electoral politics in this country: griping about the Clintons’ “corporatist” connections is one thing, but when the fundamental choice (IMO) works out to supporting someone who supports part -or most- of your agenda, and might be susceptible to political pressure from your “side” (owed for your support) or a 100% “pure” candidate (who might never win anyway), the answer (to me, anyway) is obvious.
Especially when the opposition (GOP) candidate is likely to view you and your causes/politics as evil, “the enemy” and/or figuratively (and sometimes literally) in league with Satan…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:41:35pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:43:49pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

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That’s because the Green Party is a self-righteous circle jerk that doesn’t bother to do more than fleece the gullible masses every four years and spend the time in-between bitching about how great the country would be if people would just realize they’re right.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:44:00pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

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Only a corporation would plant their sunflowers like that.

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:44:36pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Only a corporation would plant their sunflowers like that.

You have a keen eye….

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:44:47pm

re: #163 stpaulbear

I’d bet that a lot of Ellison’s constituents would have been pissed off if he had won, resigned, and left them to start over with a new representative.

I’d be.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:45:56pm

re: #172 nines09

You have a keen eye….

Nothing like riding a bicycle across Kansas the long way to know sunflowers. Threeeee weeeeeeeeks.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:50:06pm

The Greens don’t run for anything lower than the White House because they have no desire to actually govern. If they actually ran for lower offices, they might have to compromise and make deals, and that would violate their purity.

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bratwurst  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:50:21pm

I am going to file this as tough but fair.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:52:14pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:53:00pm

re: #166 Interesting Times

I’m also going to go out on a limb and guess the only Republicans disapproving of trump are those like a few LGFers, who kept their “Republican” registration but don’t have a single belief the current GOP espouses.

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:53:01pm

I fail to see how the Democratic Party can’t simultaneously fight voter suppression and GOTV in off-year and midterm elections and do so effectively. I saw someone suggest that the Dems ought to drop the former and concentrate on the latter, and that there are not enough resources to do both effectively. I don’t believe that dropping the voter suppression effort will be at all helpful for our chances of winning future elections. Of course, it’s also the right thing to do.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:53:19pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

That’s because the Green Party is a self-righteous circle jerk that doesn’t bother to do more than fleece the gullible masses every four years and spend the time in-between bitching about how great the country would be if people would just realize they’re right.

Not to mention that Stein and Barack were as owned as Trump was/is by Putin and the Russians.

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:53:44pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Nothing like riding a bicycle across Kansas the long way to know sunflowers. Threeeee weeeeeeeeks.

Spent a whole month driving through there one night.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:54:25pm

re: #176 bratwurst

I am going to file this as tough but fair.

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:55:40pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Nothing like riding a bicycle across Kansas the long way to know sunflowers. Threeeee weeeeeeeeks.

Omg, you did?

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:56:56pm

re: #177 jaunte

Wait, isn’t Uygur trying to do his own thing to splinter the Democratic Party with his “Justice Democrats”?

Goddamn ratfucker’s gonna ratfuck…

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:57:25pm

…scroll, scroll, scroll…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:57:34pm

Coward

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:58:51pm

re: #181 nines09

Spent a whole month driving through there one night.

Ha! That’s the truth!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:58:51pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Hmm. Is there anyway to make his attendance mandatory? /half

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makeitstop  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:59:05pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

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He knows half the media isn’t going to show, and whoever was the main speaker would say mean things about him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:59:11pm

That’s the reason for all the “top-down revolution” nonsense you hear from the far-left, that they live under this delusion that if they can win the White House then they can rule by fiat and anyone who stands in their way will be forced to answer to “the voters.”

The reality is the exact opposite, presidents who fail to produce results in their first term rarely win a second one. If the stars had aligned for Bernie to win last year, he would have been a single term president. The moment he had to work a deal with either side to get one of his proposals off the ground, the far-left would have turned on him for giving in to the “corporate shills.”

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:59:32pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

I wished the WHCA would have had the balls to have canceled it outright before Trump had a chance to say that he wasn’t coming.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:59:41pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

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‘Don’t miss me too much.’

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Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2017 • 1:59:49pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

He doesn’t have any respect for tradition. His family don’t even live in the white house for cripes sake.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:00:22pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

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He won’t be there so he can sit on his golden throne in the presidential bathroom and bitch on Twitter about how “mean” the media is being to him.

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bratwurst  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:01:04pm

Whoa!

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:01:18pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

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I bet he watches and tweets about the Samantha Bee event the same night.

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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:01:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:02:11pm

21st homicide for Jacksonville FL in 2017, 18th by firearm.
The means if death has yet to be released for the other three…

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:03:24pm

re: #195 bratwurst

Whoa!

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SHOTS FIRED! Damn!

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Myron Falwell  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:05:06pm

re: #195 bratwurst

Whoa!

Tapper is sharpening the knives, and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:05:08pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:05:14pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:05:21pm

re: #195 bratwurst

Whoa!

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Someone made an excellent point on Fark yesterday: The media is only nice to the White House in order to secure access. When the White House actively works to limit or even revoke that access, the press no longer has a reason to be nice to the White House.

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Stephen T.  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:09:19pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

There are Green Party members in several town councils where I live, and more that ran for other offices, so I know that’s not true.

I wouldn’t vote for them because the Green Party platform is batsh*t insane, but some of them did win.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:10:01pm

re: #202 gocart mozart

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The other thing not mentioned is much of the current stock market rise is due to expectations of quick tax “reforms” (i.e. cuts) and booming economic growth next year as a result. As the reality sets in that the former might not be done before year’s end and the latter might fall short, the market is going to correct itself. When that happens, Trump is gonna look a fool for claiming the bull market is all due to him.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:10:10pm

re: #195 bratwurst

Whoa!

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:10:41pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:11:44pm
Tom Perez, an excellent Labor Secretary and head of the Civil Rights Division from the left of the party, will be DNC Chair. Keith Ellison, an excellent and influential member of the House from the left of the party, will be Deputy Chair, and as a bonus will get to remain in Congress. This is good, and is an illustration of the extent to which the party has moved to the left over the past 20 years. Of course, Ellison as Chair would also have been an excellent outcome. Either way, ignoring people who wanted to use a contest for a procedural position as a means of re-litigating the primaries and hence had a felt need to smear the candidate they believed to be a Hillary/Bernie proxy is sound practice.
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:12:15pm

Yes. it is here. Rain and Thunder. :(

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:12:39pm
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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:12:48pm

I think this is a scream.

Watch just a little bit of this…To get the feel of it….

Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

THEN……Play this..

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:15:27pm

re: #211 nines09

Your private tag got mangled…

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:16:42pm

re: #212 TedStriker

Yeah. Play it. I knew guys like this who could make you die laughing. I think it’s a riot.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:17:34pm

re: #213 nines09

Yeah. Play it. I knew guys like this who could make you die laughing. I think it’s a riot.

Can’t, at work.

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:18:19pm

re: #214 TedStriker

file it for future. It just hit my funny bone and I need funny.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:19:02pm

Wind, rain, lightning, and of course thunder. :(

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:19:26pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Don’t underestimate how pissed off people are right now.

Happy, I wish I could be but my coworkers and I deal with too many people on Social Security or SSI who kiss Trump’s ass and they still waiting for Trump to kick the queers and colored people off of the same benefits they’re getting.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:20:56pm

re: #217 Joe Bacon

Generalized anger is not a good situation. Such people are easily led astray.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:20:57pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

That’s because the Green Party is a self-righteous circle jerk that doesn’t bother to do more than fleece the gullible masses every four years and spend the time in-between bitching about how great the country would be if people would just realize they’re right.

Once again, reminding folks that GREEN =
Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:21:47pm

re: #217 Joe Bacon

Happy, I wish I could be but my coworkers and I deal with too many people on Social Security or SSI who kiss Trump’s ass and they still waiting for Trump to kick the queers and colored people off of the same benefits they’re getting.

So basically, their theme song is “Waiting For The Worms”.

(23) THE WALL: Pink Floyd - Waiting For The Worms

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retired cynic  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:21:51pm

re: #166 Interesting Times

Abso-fricking-lutely. The attempt to reach out to so-called “moderate” GOP voters was by far the dumbest Dem move of 2016. There are no, I repeat, no moderate GOPers left. Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is 85-90% so fuck the whole sorry lot of them with Vladimir Putin’s dick.

Worry about the base and independent voters instead.

Worry about the trying-to-be voters who are blocked from voting. Fix THAT!

Edited to fix brain-typing malfunction.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:23:55pm

re: #13 BeachDem

Let the BoB bitching begin.

All I can hear is Bitching - The Stranglers

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:25:12pm

And now the rat-a-tat tat of hail. :(

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Varek Raith  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:25:15pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Only a corporation would plant their sunflowers like that.

Brutal.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:25:25pm

re: #181 nines09

Spent a whole month driving through there one night.

That’s no way to see the sunflowers.

re: #183 prairiefire

Omg, you did?

Northeast corner to Southwest corner, 1986. Last day, first Mexican restaurant on the route. Ate the biggest combos you ever saw, then had pie.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:25:59pm

I come home from the gym and see my apartment manager and her family are packing up and leaving Los Angeles. They’re going back to Mexico. I asked what happened and they replied they’re fed up with Trump.

Makes me heartsick. She was always on top of any problems and got them resolved quickly.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:26:36pm

re: #223 PhillyPretzel

And now the rat-a-tat tat of hail. :(

I was just going to say you missed the hail when I saw your first post about the storm.

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:27:05pm

re: #179 Moebym

I fail to see how the Democratic Party can’t simultaneously fight voter suppression and GOTV in off-year and midterm elections and do so effectively. I saw someone suggest that the Dems ought to drop the former and concentrate on the latter, and that there are not enough resources to do both effectively.

Wait, seriously?! That’s so self-defeating and idiotic the only people I can imagine saying it are concern trolls and/or ratfuckers. Plus, the two go hand-in-hand anyway - how on earth can you GOTV when all the votes you could get have been disenfranchised by GOP shenanigans? Seriously, whoever said that needs to be slapped upside the head with a frozen salmon on a cedar plank.

By the way, if my posts seem especially anger-filled today, I’m thinking of the Kansas hate crime - I’m of South Asian descent like the victims. That plus the jackboot thugs in Customs make it abundantly clear it’s not safe for me to visit the US until this batshit insanity somehow subsides…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:27:33pm

re: #166 Interesting Times

Abso-fricking-lutely. The attempt to reach out to so-called “moderate” GOP voters was by far the dumbest Dem move of 2016. There are no, I repeat, no moderate GOPers left. Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is 85-90% so fuck the whole sorry lot of them with Vladimir Putin’s dick.

Worry about the base and independent voters instead.

Actually, there are a lot of moderate GOP voters. They’ve been voting Dem for quite a long time and have been desperately trying to change the minds of their families and friends. Those moderate GOP voters are part of the reason some previously solid red strongholds are now turning purple if not outright flipping blue. I really want to believe that trend is going to avalanche.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:28:01pm

re: #226 Joe Bacon

I come home from the gym and see my apartment manager and her family are packing up and leaving Los Angeles. They’re going back to Mexico. I asked what happened and they replied they’re fed up with Trump.

Makes me heartsick. She was always on top of any problems and got them resolved quickly.

Sounds like she’s doing it again. Get an address, go visit.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:31:06pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Getting back to my Facebook wall… there are a few people on there who traditionally (well, within the past few elections) would be thought of as definitely “Republican”, but they really don’t like Trump. However, they tend to be well educated and/or “successful”, whatever that means…

And there are some religious types who, I guess, really are true believers and find Trump an abomination. These folks though, it appears, are outnumbered by the religious types who follow the “Juniors” (.e.g. Billy Graham, Falwell, etc.) and are full in for a theocratic dictatorship.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:33:57pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

Sounds like she’s doing it again. Get an address, go visit.

Great point.

Makes me sad though. I don’t remember reading too many people that came to America wanting to leave and go back.

And then looking at it realistically, a bunch of people will call it a win. Sigh. Strange times.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:35:41pm

Plucking little things off the bottom of the ocean:

Camera 1: 2017 American Samoa Expedition

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:35:42pm

Hey, Dinesh D’Stupid is a Winner again…of a bunch of RAZZIES!

37th Razzie Award Winners Announcement

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:35:47pm

When I got home today the temperature was in the low 70’s. Now it is in the middle 50’s.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:38:14pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:38:43pm

re: #233 freetoken

Plucking little things off the bottom of the ocean:

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I heard a comparative piece on the radio this morning asking what if there was somebody above a cloudy sky over NYC, plucking bits to study and trying to make sense of the whole.

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:39:21pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, there are a lot of moderate GOP voters. They’ve been voting Dem for quite a long time and have been desperately trying to change the minds of their families and friends. Those moderate GOP voters are part of the reason some previously solid red strongholds are now turning purple if not outright flipping blue. I really want to believe that trend is going to avalanche.

Yes, that’s what I meant in my follow-up. I would love for the trend to avalanche, though I can’t say at this point how bad things will need to get first.

The most promising sign is the townhall engagement - it at least shows people are finally cluing in on how important local races are, and waking up to what corrupt and sleazy good-for-nothings the GOP congress consists of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:40:20pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Only a corporation would plant their sunflowers like that.

And a plane will crash into the middle of them…

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:41:24pm

A lot of people are asking who will pick all those crops we will need by 2018. Here is your answer:

Private prisons back Trump and could see big payoffs with new policies

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:41:49pm

re: #235 PhillyPretzel

A cool day here… we just cracked 60F, from a low of around 43F. And light rain is supposed to be coming. We need the rain, the loquat trees need it. But the loquats are early this year and the rain is knocking the fruit off early… 😞

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:45:10pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel

“…Employment law makes the status of the worker as an “employee” a critical distinction. If you are an employee, you get protections; if not, you don’t. Courts look to the character of the relationship between the parties and aim to assess, first, whether the employer has sufficient control over the work conditions and, second, whether the relationship is primarily of an economic character.

Incarcerated workers are not expressly excluded from the definition of employee in workers’ protection statutes like the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) or the National Labor Relations Act. However, in the cases where incarcerated workers have sued their prison-employers to enforce minimum wage laws or the FLSA, courts have ruled that the relationship between the penitentiary and the inmate worker is not primarily economic; thus, the worker is not protected under the statutes. By judging the relationship between prisons and incarcerated workers to be of a primarily social or penological nature, the courts have placed wage and working condition protections out of reach for incarcerated workers.”
theatlantic.com

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:47:02pm

re: #242 jaunte

Make Chain Gangs Great Again!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:47:21pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

The Greens don’t run for anything lower than the White House because they have no desire to actually govern. If they actually ran for lower offices, they might have to compromise and make deals, and that would violate their purity.

They might have to actually campaign on actual issues….

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:47:50pm

So President Pee Pee says he will not attend the annual White House Correspondent’s Dinner.

Boo F’n Hoo.

Don’t worry folks, because this guy says he WILL show up!

WATCH THAT FINGER! IT’S LOADED!!!!!
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:47:56pm

re: #242 jaunte

There’s the next legal battle: $15 minimum wage for those incarcerated.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:48:04pm

re: #234 Joe Bacon

I’ve always figured that Dinesh makes these films because PACs buy them in bulk, then distribute them as “gifts.”

On the other hand, they’re basically wingnut conspiracy porn so maybe there is an audience.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:48:47pm

re: #245 Joe Bacon

So President Pee Pee says he will not attend the annual White House Correspondent’s Dinner.

Boo F’n Hoo.

Don’t worry folks, because this guy says he WILL show up!

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Imagine if Alec Trump showed up at the WHCD.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:48:59pm

re: #243 Interesting Times

Make Chain Gangs Great Again!

From that article:

Over the decades, prison labor has expanded in scope and reach. Incarcerated workers, laboring within in-house operations or through convict-leasing partnerships with for-profit businesses, have been involved with mining, agriculture, and all manner of manufacturing from making military weapons to sewing garments for Victoria’s Secret. Prison programs extend into the services sector; some incarcerated workers staff call centers.

This is great news for the 1%.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:49:41pm

re: #191 TedStriker

I wished the WHCA would have had the balls to have canceled it outright before Trump had a chance to say that he wasn’t coming.

I know—they keep saying it’s all about the scholarship money they raise—so they should have seen how much they would have raised if they’d asked for donations in support of cancelling it.

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:50:53pm

re: #195 bratwurst

Whoa!

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Jake for the win!

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:51:44pm

So maybe the deportation plan isn’t so much about deportation but more about free labor.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:52:15pm

re: #177 jaunte

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So all or nothing huh Cenk. Just stop it already.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:53:09pm

re: #236 jaunte

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They’re so desperate to show that they’re relevant that they’re co-opting the women’s march. And can’t admit that, for all those who supposedly showed up to support Bernie, he lost again and again in closed primaries where the party alone was responsible for choosing the nominee.

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bratwurst  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:53:42pm

re: #247 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I’ve always figured that Dinesh makes these films because PACs buy them in bulk, then distribute them as “gifts.”

On the other hand, they’re basically wingnut conspiracy porn so maybe there is an audience.

There is a small audience, but I also believe that the same wingnut welfare machine that creates conservative “best sellers” in publishing is also making bulk buys of tickets to his awful movies.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:56:14pm

re: #252 jaunte

So maybe the deportation plan isn’t so much about deportation but more about free labor.

Cheap labor wasn’t good enough. This overreach will bite them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:56:38pm

So the Democratic Party in my lifetime has nominated a black son of a Kenyan immigrant whose parents married Pre-Loving, a woman, had a Jewish woman as party chair, a gay black woman (I think Donna identifies as a lesbian anyohw), and now a son of Dominican immigrants. What the puregressives don’t get is that the Democratic Party in both membership and leadership looks like America and that is important.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:58:13pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

So the Democratic Party in my lifetime has nominated a black son of a Kenyan immigrant whose parents married Pre-Loving, a woman, had a Jewish woman as party chair, a gay black woman (I think Donna identifies as a lesbian anyohw), and now a son of Dominican immigrants. What the puregressives don’t get is that the Democratic Party in both membership and leadership looks like America and that is important.

Good word! It has regressive in it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:58:47pm

re: #236 jaunte

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I am so sick and tired of these people. It must be easy to be so pure when you’ve not actually had to deal with politics. I hate the Citizens United decision and I don’t like corporate money in politics but we are where we are and TBH a lot of those corporations to their credit actually do stand by some progressive issues even if it’s for their own financial benefit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:58:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:59:28pm

re: #258 wrenchwench

Good word! It has regressive in it.

I didn’t even consider that. I was just trying to say pure-gressive. But good catch.

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:59:50pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 2:59:55pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

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He needs a safe space with President Bannon.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:01:53pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

Cheap labor wasn’t good enough. This overreach will bite them.

The Republican Party has discovered an end-around for the 13th Amendment - they are allowed to enslave the browns and blacks - they just have to throw them in jail first.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:02:50pm

The fact is that many people feel they have a place in today’s Democratic Party. The party’s far left- predominately white I just don’t think appreciates that. And so it’s clear, I’m white myself and I know many of us are too but my point is that I think these people are so focused on ideological purity that they don’t appreciate what it means to groups that were marginalized and yes even in the “progressive golden era of 1932-1964” to be representative. If the right is too romantic about the 1950’s socially, I think the far left does it for economics. Yes, unions were at their peak in the 1950’s and that WAS a good thing but in that same era, many of those same unions were denying racial minorities into their ranks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:04:05pm

Oh and these same people dislike Obama for his FP. FDR was probably one of the biggest hawks we ever had in the WH. For good reason with the threat of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan but he was definitely a hawk.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:05:32pm

Very off topic… but I have/had a Flickr account (the images are still there), but I’ve not logged into my Flickr account for at least a couple of years.

Now I discover that Flickr is part of Yahoo, and to log in it wants one of my Yahoo accounts… but my Flickr account wasn’t under my Yahoo user name.

Now it seems like my old Flickr account is in a closed-off universe, behind a Yahoo event horizon…

😡

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:07:22pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I think these people are so focused on ideological purity that they don’t appreciate what it means to groups that were marginalized and yes even in the “progressive golden era of 1932-1964” to be representative. If the right is too romantic about the 1950’s socially, I think the far left does it for economics.

I think some of them may be looking back a little further than that; I’d say about 1917. You know, a warm fuzzy nostalgia for the halcyon days of the Bolshevik coup d’etat.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:09:16pm

re: #267 freetoken

Very off topic… but I have/had a Flickr account (the images are still there), but I’ve not logged into my Flickr account for at least a couple of years.

Now I discover that Flickr is part of Yahoo, and to log in it wants one of my Yahoo accounts… but my Flickr account wasn’t under my Yahoo user name.

Now it seems like my old Flickr account is in a closed-off universe, behind a Yahoo event horizon…

😡

There is probably a way to make that connection. That way, presumably, lies beyond the abyss that is Yahoo customer support.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:09:17pm

re: #248 Belafon

Imagine if Alec Trump showed up at the WHCD.

THIS JUST IN! She will be there in all her glory!

I CAN HARDLY WAIT!
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:09:22pm

re: #268 Dr Lizardo

I think some of them may be looking back a little further than that; I’d say about 1917. You know, a warm fuzzy nostalgia for the halcyon days of the Bolshevik coup d’etat.

There may be that too. I think they just don’t accept that in their revision of the Dems when the Dems were more lefty on economics that the party wasn’t what it is socially today. I mean I’d like to see the Dems become more like the Nordic parties on econ but the country has to want it first. The far left doesn’t accept that. They want revolution come high or hell water.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:11:51pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:12:00pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

Cheap labor wasn’t good enough. This overreach will bite them.

This is outright slavery. The Constitution allows for penal servitude but the Founders never anticipated the involvement of private business and a consequently enormous profit motive.
I wonder what prisons can get for prime field hands?
Hell, why stop there?
Brothels are legal in Nevada and could be elsewhere with enough corporate lobbying behind them.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:12:09pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

They’re so desperate to show that they’re relevant that they’re co-opting the women’s march. And can’t admit that, for all those who supposedly showed up to support Bernie, he lost again and again in closed primaries where the party alone was responsible for choosing the nominee.

The woman’s march was all Bernie people? Sorry, no.

What jerks.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:12:41pm

re: #252 jaunte

A little of column A, a little of column B.

Private prisons love vigorous deportation schemes, since warehousing deportees ) is a fat income stream—particularly since they game the system to get compensated as though low-level offenders were supermax felons—with low overhead. Indeed, private prisons are all about maximum gaming of the system: nobody gives a shit if you mistreat a criminal, so you can cut costs on everything relating to safety, health, and wellbeing. They have no incentive to rehabhilitate anyone; they want occupancy—indeed, many include quotas in their contracts with states and counties.

What makes deportees especially valuable is that they’re low-maintenance compared to actual criminals, and while there is an eventual date at which they’re repatriated, the court proceedings, etc, can drag on…meaning more money per term per head.

It’s another hole in the “justice” system: what if so many people have incentive to be unjust? There are so many ways that the system is hacked to achieve ends that don’t involve justice. This is just another one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:14:00pm

re: #274 Stanley Sea

The woman’s march was all Bernie people? Sorry, no.

What jerks.

As I’ve said, for a movement that preports to be grassroots, they are often exclusive. If you don’t think Sanders is what the Democratic Party needs, you’re a sell out to them.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:19:58pm

re: #249 jaunte

Slave labor, enshrined in the Constitution. Very freedom.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:22:00pm

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:24:43pm

re: #275 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

A little of column A, a little of column B.

Private prisons love vigorous deportation schemes, since warehousing deportees ) is a fat income stream—particularly since they game the system to get compensated as though low-level offenders were supermax felons—with low overhead. Indeed, private prisons are all about maximum gaming of the system: nobody gives a shit if you mistreat a criminal, so you can cut costs on everything relating to safety, health, and wellbeing. They have no incentive to rehabhilitate anyone; they want occupancy—indeed, many include quotas in their contracts with states and counties.

What makes deportees especially valuable is that they’re low-maintenance compared to actual criminals, and while there is an eventual date at which they’re repatriated, the court proceedings, etc, can drag on…meaning more money per term per head.

It’s another hole in the “justice” system: what if so many people have incentive to be unjust? There are so many ways that the system is hacked to achieve ends that don’t involve justice. This is just another one.

Plus, they can detain children. And apparently undocumented immigrants have no right to legal representation.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:26:18pm

re: #278 Stanley Sea

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nines09  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:27:37pm

Been watching this guy get more attention as he should. JL Fulks. Enjoy.

JL Fulks Live at Terra Fermata - Phrygian Dance (Official Music Video)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:29:50pm

re: #280 Joe Bacon

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:32:48pm

LOLOLOL. I mean, they obviously couldn’t just accept a report that guts their entire argument in federal court, but this has to be embarrassing as all fuck.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:34:48pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:35:10pm

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

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Oh, he did NOT just go there.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:35:16pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

LOLOLOL. I mean, they obviously couldn’t just accept a report that guts their entire argument in federal court, but this has to be embarrassing as all fuck.

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What else would you expect from a White House living in their Ayn Randian Laissez Fairyland?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:38:25pm

re: #279 wrenchwench

Yep, the glee here is a captive population they’re paid to hold (at bullshit rates determined in shady-ass contracts) that isn’t going to “cost” like violent offenders…but that they can still treat like shit.

Kind of scary that there’s money to be made by riding a cultural wave of callousness and cruelty.

People say “bread and circuses” and think about the latter in the modern sense…as spectacle, entertainment. Now a Roman circus was entertainment, but it was also about creating a sense Roman-ness that could not blend with the “others” of the Mediterranean world. It was very deliberate, that gladiators were tarted up as Thracians, and Syrians, et cetera. That fear that bad things come from the presence of “Mexicans”? That glee that bad things happens to “Mexicans”? That’s the new circus.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:38:56pm

re: #284 FormerDirtDart

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Ouch. Reading about his family. His maternal grandfather apparently was declared persona non grata by the Trujilllo regime after speaking out against it as Dominican Ambassador to the U.S. What’s honestly funny to me about the purists hating him is Perez throughout his career has consistently been backed by labor groups so again maybe Sanders should have actually researched him before pulling that stand up for the working class snide comment in his tweet.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:39:44pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

LOLOLOL. I mean, they obviously couldn’t just accept a report that guts their entire argument in federal court, but this has to be embarrassing as all fuck.

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HOLY LYSENKO BATMAN

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:40:38pm

Perez seems like his parents brand of Catholicism was a lot like the brand my dad’s parents installed in him and his siblings. Understanding those who are different from you and don’t have your advantages. It amazes me that this guy is seen as a bad guy. He would have been my first choice for AG if Clinton had won and he still may be an AG in a future Dem administration too.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:43:10pm

re: #287 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Yep, the glee here is a captive population they’re paid to hold (at bullshit rates determined in shady-ass contracts) that isn’t going to “cost” like violent offenders…but that they can still treat like shit.

Kind of scary that there’s money to be made by riding a cultural wave of callousness and cruelty.

People say “bread and circuses” and think about the latter in the modern sense…as spectacle, entertainment. Now a Roman circus was entertainment, but it was also about creating a sense Roman-ness that could not blend with the “others” of the Mediterranean world. It was very deliberate, that gladiators were tarted up as Thracians, and Syrians, et cetera. That fear that bad things come from the presence of “Mexicans”? That glee that bad things happens to “Mexicans”? That’s the new circus.

I wonder how that will play in New Mexico. Our governor was born in El Paso. Her parents were born in Mexico. The old one. She’s a converted Democrat. I wonder whether she’d ever revert.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:43:44pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

It’s like we’re getting a greatest hits album of skull-fucking, society-reaming ideological blindness that did for sad bastards trapped under Communist dictators.

Pretty soon we’re going to be droning sparrows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:44:03pm

re: #236 jaunte

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and who is the current RNC chair?

oh…
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:47:02pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

and who is the current RNC chair?

oh…
en.wikipedia.org

I did the cursor-hover, saw the name, and thought of the horse. (The one that had a twitter account when Romney was running.)

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BeachDem  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:48:54pm

re: #274 Stanley Sea

The woman’s march was all Bernie people? Sorry, no.

What jerks.

Yeah—that’s grating on my nerves too—their mantra that all of the current “activists” are young Bernie supporters and that woe is me, we’re now going to lose them.

I’d say that about 80-90% of the people I know who have gone to marches, town halls etc. were Hillary supporters and long-time activists—not newbie Berniacs.

I’d like to see their “stats” on who’s doing what these days, because I’m not buying their spin.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 3:57:30pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:00:45pm

Thread to read

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Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:16:55pm
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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:17:03pm

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Mmm… that chicken sure crisped up nice!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:18:02pm

re: #250 BeachDem

I know—they keep saying it’s all about the scholarship money they raise—so they should have seen how much they would have raised if they’d asked for donations in support of cancelling it.

soooo, it’s like a beauty scholarship pageant….

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:19:42pm

It’s not difficult for me to accept why Google/Apple/Amazon won the internet, and ATT/Yahoo/AOL lost.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:21:04pm

re: #298 weave

From the_donald on Reddit:
Wikileaks: Tom Perez collaborated with Clinton and actively undermined Sanders during primary. You know what to do guys, get shitpostin and split the democrats apart.

And Bernie bots will fall for it too. :-(

Fuck the Bernie Bots. If they want to be perpetual malcontents, they can just fuck off. Why should we waste time trying to appeal people who are malcontents and have never contributed anything to the party before and never will in the future because it won’t pass their latest purity test?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:21:24pm

re: #168 Jay C

Yeah, me too, and my feeling was “so what”? What burns me (pun intended) most about the BoB crowd is what seemed to be an utter disregard for the realities of electoral politics in this country: griping about the Clintons’ “corporatist” connections is one thing, but when the fundamental choice (IMO) works out to supporting someone who supports part -or most- of your agenda, and might be susceptible to political pressure from your “side” (owed for your support) or a 100% “pure” candidate (who might never win anyway), the answer (to me, anyway) is obvious.
Especially when the opposition (GOP) candidate is likely to view you and your causes/politics as evil, “the enemy” and/or figuratively (and sometimes literally) in league with Satan…

Godwin here: And that’s how Hitler was elected in the 1930’s. The leftist and centrist parties saw each other as the enemy, refused to cooperate, and a monster took office. The BoBers people refuse to acknowledge that Clinton would have been far superior to Trump.

I think many of the WWC could be persuaded to vote in their interest if the Democrats actually figured out an effective campaign strategy that involves bumper sticker size slogans, instead of 30 page position papers.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:22:44pm

I’ve used them all, since the beginning of most of those services (I was probably late to Google.)

AOL - been there done that.
ATT - the online connection from the beginning of modems
Yahoo - since it started
Amazon - since it started (eBay, too.)
Apple - first mobile computer I used, back when they had monochrom LCD screens. Use the ATT dial-up.

So much has been learnt (and lost.) Google is frustrating too, in how frequently they introduce items… then retire them. But overall they make easy to use tools.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:23:39pm

re: #303 Timothy Watson

Fuck the Bernie Bots. If they want to be perpetual malcontents, they can just fuck off. Why should we waste time trying to appeal people who are malcontents and have never contributed anything to the party before and never will in the future because it won’t pass their latest purity test?

The reddit sounds like ratfucking, and any Bernie supporter that falls for it is too far gone to worry about.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:33:53pm

re: #304 Hecuba’s daughter

Godwin here: And that’s how Hitler was elected in the 1930’s. The leftist and centrist parties saw each other as the enemy, refused to cooperate, and a monster took office. The BoBers people refuse to acknowledge that Clinton would have been far superior to Trump.

I think many of the WWC could be persuaded to vote in their interest if the Democrats actually figured out an effective campaign strategy that involves bumper sticker size slogans, instead of 30 page position papers.

Yeah I’ve been thinking about that too. The German Communist Party called the German Social Democrats the “Social Fascists”. Honestly here’s what really bothers me though. There really isn’t that much difference between Clinton/Sanders in their voting records and there’s really not much difference between Perez and Ellison either ideologically. In fact, I imagine if Ellison had backed Clinton and Perez had backed Bernie, they would have favored Perez.

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:35:15pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

So, my pioneer people are from the ne corner. Holton and Circleville north of Atchison. Did you start in Leavenworth?

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:35:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:38:37pm

re: #262 Interesting Times

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Samantha Bee is way ahead with that idea

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:38:41pm

re: #305 freetoken

I’ve used them all, since the beginning of most of those services (I was probably late to Google.)

AOL - been there done that.
ATT - the online connection from the beginning of modems
Yahoo - since it started
Amazon - since it started (eBay, too.)
Apple - first mobile computer I used, back when they had monochrom LCD screens. Use the ATT dial-up.

So much has been learnt (and lost.) Google is frustrating too, in how frequently they introduce items… then retire them. But overall they make easy to use tools.

For me: AOL - joined when it was Quantum Link, the Commodore on-line service. Left AOL about a year after it started.
Yahoo - started with them with a paid account for POP E-mail. No longer use the paid service since my wife has her own E-mail service through her Website (a private E-mail server muahahahaha)
Amazon - rarely use them but prefer them over other on-line stores because they deliver by US Mail to me
Apple - good fruit to eat raw or use in pie. Also makes good sauce for pancakes.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:39:06pm

re: #309 jaunte

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Trump obviously didn’t know either.

This could be what gets Sean fired!!

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:40:49pm

re: #312 Stanley Sea

Trump obviously didn’t know either.

This could be what gets Sean fired!!

Every time a picture appears, put bunny ears on him.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:41:40pm


Republican National Committee communications director Sean Spicer and costume maker Jonn Schenz, after wearing the costume at a White House Easter Egg Roll during the Bush II administration.
washingtonpost.com
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:42:10pm

re: #308 prairiefire

So, my pioneer people are from the ne corner. Holton and Circleville north of Atchison. Did you start in Leavenworth?

Crossed the bridge at St. Joseph. took 36 west to Belleville, turned south, and I’ll have to get my journal to keep going….

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:42:33pm

re: #314 jaunte

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The Shining?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:42:40pm

re: #314 jaunte

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Republican National Committee communications director Sean Spicer and costume maker Jonn Schenz, after wearing the costume at a White House Easter Egg Roll during the Bush II administration.
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Must not make Shining joke.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:42:53pm

re: #316 Barefoot Grin

The Shining?

Oh goddamn you.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:42:58pm

re: #313 Belafon

Every time a picture appears, put bunny ears on him.

Waiting for some enterprising individual to use Photoshop that, then tweet it at Mssrs. Trump and Spicer (and as many other people as they can… .)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:44:06pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Oh goddamn you.

Heh, my day is done.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:44:40pm

re: #320 Barefoot Grin

Heh, my day is done.

Hey though great minds and all that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:45:21pm

Just think the WH bunny this year could be Ivanka’s Cheif of Staff in a few years. //

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:48:12pm

Trump’s drive to become President was probably born of the mockery he received at prior WHCA dinners. No wonder he won’t go.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:48:39pm
Around the world, women have been suffering political oppression and worse for years, but we do not expect them to be violent. We tell ourselves that women who take up guns are aberrations. We are terrified of women’s rage, their fierceness, and their righteousness, so we create narratives and projections that deny their power of agency and authority. We tell ourselves that they kill for their husbands, that they are merely pawns, used and misused in a men’s game. They don’t have their own politics. Not “real” politics. They get drawn into “bad” situations against their will. They don’t know what they’re doing. We frame these stories any number of ways, but make sure that militant women are never the central characters, never voicing and determining their own story. This is far easier than confronting the depth of female commitment, radicalism, and vision. How does a mother watch her baby starve or her daughter be raped by soldiers of mining companies occupying her land without retaliating? How does a women continue on when she herself has been raped and re-raped by soldiers in a war fought over her country’s resources? How do women not go insane when they witness the daily assault of corporations and their proxy militias on their land, their water, their children, their husbands, their sons?


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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:49:07pm

re: #323 Barefoot Grin

Trump’s drive to become President was probably born of the mockery he received at prior WHCA dinners. No wonder he won’t go.

Yeah I don’t doubt it. The man is incredibly thin skinned.

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fern01  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:49:18pm

As goes the WHCD - so goes the easter egg roll. If it happens at all should be a very homogeneous group of children. Doubt there will need to be a ballot to select who goes.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:49:31pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Just think the WH bunny this year could be Ivanka’s Cheif of Staff in a few years. //

Breaking: Easter Bunny fired, declared “socialist” for redistributing candy to poor children.

Libertarian Bunny to hand out bootstraps at next White House Easter Egg Hunt.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:50:45pm

re: #323 Barefoot Grin

Trump’s drive to become President was probably born of the mockery he received at prior WHCA dinners. No wonder he won’t go.

So his huge temptation to go and gloat that he’s now president is overwhelmed by the fear that someone will make a joke at his expense and the crowd will laugh. Pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:51:08pm

re: #327 Anymouse

Breaking: Easter Bunny fired, declared “socialist” for redistributing candy to poor children.

Libertarian Bunny to hand out bootstraps at next White House Easter Egg Hunt.

Nah that’s Horatio Alger Easter Bunny. Libertarian Easter Bunny just calls you a thief for accepting free candy.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:52:00pm

re: #323 Barefoot Grin

Trump’s drive to become President was probably born of the mockery he received at prior WHCA dinners. No wonder he won’t go.

By passing on attending he probably thinks he is showing it doesn’t mean anything, just the press…his enemy.

And by downplaying it, he can think only losers like Obama go to them and make jokes about Great Businessmen like Trump who can’t defend themselves.

Take that Obama. Take that media. Trump won’t play your games.

And he’d suck at trying to being funny anyway…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:53:05pm

God I just imagine at him at one of those roasts that Comedy Central does and him turning red due to all the mockery.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:53:46pm

Customs nazis busy disrupting academic visits

A visiting scholar to Texas A&M was detained by customs officials in Houston this week while on his way to speak at a symposium in Aggieland, officials said Friday at the conference.

Henry Rousso was flying in from Paris to participate in the Hagler Institute Symposium when he was “mistakenly detained” Wednesday evening upon his arrival, according to Richard Golsan, director of the Melbern G. Glasscock Center for Humanities Research at Texas A&M.
…………

Rousso, 62, is a senior researcher at the French National Center for Scientific Research, or CNRS, which the Egyptian-born scholar and author joined in 1981.
m.theeagle.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:54:12pm

For all the talk of liberal snowflakes, Trump by far is the most thin skinned sob ever to run for president for a major party. I don’t like Jeb Bush but I can give him credit for laughing at himself- see the Jeb as an Uber driver sketch.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:54:28pm

“He’s spoken at Texas A&M University many times about France’s Vichy regime and the country’s role in the Holocaust. In 2007, he was a visiting professor at TAMU”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:54:33pm

re: #332 jaunte

Customs nazis busy disrupting academic visits

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Fucked up.

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:56:08pm

You can see why a neo-nazi regime would not want him coming into the country.

He is a member of several editorial boards : Vingtième Siècle, History and Memory, South Central Review, SegleXX. Revista catalana di Stòria, Les Cahiers du Judaïsme, Cahiers d’histoire du temps présent (Bruxelles), and several scientific councils : Centre français de recherche en sciences sociales (CEFRES, Prague, Chair), Centre de recherche de l’Historial de Péronne, Mémorial de la Shoah de Paris, Mémorial de la Paix à Caen, Jena Center Geschichte des 20. Jahrhunderts (Allemagne), Gedenkstätte Buchenwald (Allemagne), Museum of the Second World War (Gdansk), etc.
ihtp.cnrs.fr

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:56:35pm

Just ran across this:

The fate of our Generals: at worst you get paid to be on CNN
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:58:42pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:58:44pm
As the Pew Research Center puts it, the nation has a “competitive marketplace” for belief, in which different groups vie for membership, and the influence that brings.

I never thought of it that way. For one raised RC, it’s GTFO and never look back.

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sagehen  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:58:49pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

God I just imagine at him at one of those roasts that Comedy Central does and him turning red due to all the mockery.

you don’t have to imagine.

huffingtonpost.com

cc.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:59:25pm

re: #340 sagehen

you don’t have to imagine.

huffingtonpost.com

cc.com

Oh they did roast him. I had honestly forgotten abut that.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 4:59:32pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:02:40pm

re: #342 Anymouse

Heh. He said the thing.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:05:42pm

reverbpress.com

VP Pence stands by Israel, by tweeting the Nicaraguan flag in support.

He deleted the tweet, but not before journalists got hold of it (some of the responses at Reverb above)

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:10:18pm

Today is Rebecca Schoenkopf of Wonkette’s birthday today. She is forty-four.
I feel old.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:12:47pm

Well, as long as the “booker” checked him out, I guess that ends the discussion…
//

Fox News defended their decision to book Bildt, stating that the guest was pre-interviewed and was recommended by numerous sources.

“Our booker made numerous inquiries and spoke to people who recommended Nils Bildt and after pre-interviewing him and reviewing his bio, we agreed that he would make a good guest for the topic that evening,” the executive producer of show, David Tabacoff, told the Post.

O’Reilly is expected to address the issue during his show Monday night, a network spokesperson told The Hill.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:14:04pm

what a great picture!

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Interesting Times  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:14:30pm

So Nicholas Kristof posted this:

Facebook Post

While the top comment is from a trump voter expressing regret, he’s outnumbered by unrepentant trump-chumps spewing nightmarish garbage like this:

poor little white snowflake wants facist tinyhands to protect him from those scary brown people

In the replies, people mention the wall costing 20 billion and he says he has no trouble with that figure. That 10s of millions of Americans share this bigot’s sentiments is beyond grotesque.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:14:55pm

re: #346 Anymouse

And I am 55.

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Franklin  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:15:05pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:16:42pm

re: #350 PhillyPretzel

And I am 55.

I’m 12,713.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:16:44pm

re: #300 jeffreyw

Had lunch with a friend today and this was the dessert—Raspberry Sorbet in Lemon Cups!

Yes, it tasted so good!
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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:16:53pm

re: #350 PhillyPretzel

And I am 55.

We can drown our shared condolences togeter, as I am fifty-six.

On the other hand, I certainly don’t want to go back to a lot of previous times in my life, they sucked.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:18:41pm

I just signed up & will be participating in a group call on Monday.

I’m hoping I can help my local chapter with clerical work or whatever.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:18:46pm

re: #354 Anymouse

We can drown our shared condolences togeter, as I am fifty-six.

On the other hand, I certainly don’t want to go back to a lot of previous times in my life, they sucked.

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Contrast that to the Republicans, who seem to live for the glory days of the 1940’s and early 1950’s.

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:19:29pm
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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:20:37pm

re: #352 teleskiguy

I’m 12,713.

Or 80,208 in LGF upvote years.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:21:15pm

re: #347 FormerDirtDart

Well, as long as the “booker” checked him out, I guess that ends the discussion…
//

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Cough, cough…Keith Ablow…cough.

They don’t ever give a shit.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:22:52pm

Been away from the internets for a while today, how y’all doing?

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:22:54pm

Mr. Trump still being trolled over the White House Correspondent’s Dinner.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:23:24pm
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Birth Control Works  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:24:53pm
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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:25:54pm
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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:27:21pm
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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:27:43pm

Quite an orgy of brittle stars:

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:29:31pm

re: #365 Anymouse

Why am I not surprised? If that Trump person says that these people are a threat they are. And if you believe that I have a bridge …

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:29:34pm

re: #366 freetoken

Quite an orgy of brittle stars:

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That crashed my computer when I did expanded screen. I wonder why. A rare event for my computer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:30:54pm

re: #360 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Been away from the internets for a while today, how y’all doing?

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We elected a Civil Rights lawyer as DNC chair but because he supported Clinton, he’s no good.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:30:55pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:31:43pm

Just asking questions. Well, not questions really, I just despise them.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:32:10pm

The local newspaper ran my letter today (yay!)
starherald.com

A reader recently wrote to uphold Irene North’s article on flag-burning. That reader apparently did not understand what the First Amendment protects and what military personnel swear or affirm to uphold and defend. I am disabled in the nation’s service. My father and his father were killed during warfare. My sister and my mother, and both my grandmothers served in the military. None of us affirmed to uphold and defend a flag. We affirmed to uphold and defend the Constitution and the rights it outlines for all people. No where in my enlistment oath did I affirm to uphold and defend a flag. I do not like flag burning, except where it is prescribed by the Flag Code. But I affirmed to uphold the rights of all people, not just those whose speech or actions I agree with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:32:22pm

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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WHCA should invite Obama to keynote the dinner…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:32:54pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

We elected a Civil Rights lawyer as DNC chair but because he supported Clinton, he’s no good.

Had a quick twitterfight with person who was complaining that all the twitter polls showed Ellison would win, and this vote didn’t represent the base.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:33:15pm

re: #362 freetoken

A bevy of arms:

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Video

Ok, all good on second attempt. Very cool. Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:33:20pm

re: #364 Anymouse

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I really would have more respect for Sanders if he A) did what Angus King, the Senate’s other Indy does and let the Democrats make their own internal decisions or B) Actually joined the party and took the lumps and bumps that go with being a member of a party. He chooses to do C) which is really I think wrong and immature. It’s too bad. I like a lot of what Sanders has to offer the country but I don’t like his attitude by and large and I especially don’t like him acting like only he speaks for the working class in this country. Perez has just an as good track record with working class people as Bernie.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:33:35pm

re: #372 Anymouse

Great. I am happy to hear you were published.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:34:24pm

re: #374 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Had a quick twitterfight with person who was complaining that all the twitter polls showed Ellison would win, and this vote didn’t represent the base.

Gah!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:35:38pm

I only hope I look this good when I’m six years younger than I am now.

And I love the guy on the right who’s representing us NYers who couldn’t be there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:35:59pm

re: #377 PhillyPretzel

Great. I am happy to hear you were published.

Ditto that. That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about what people like yourself can do in your neck of the woods AM. I don’t know how often people read the letters to the editor but maybe someone will gain a different perspective hearing from you, a man who has served this country in uniform on this subject.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:38:08pm

and the whining commences:

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:38:27pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Ditto that. That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about what people like yourself can do in your neck of the woods AM. I don’t know how often people read the letters to the editor but maybe someone will gain a different perspective hearing from you, a man who has served this country in uniform on this subject.

Well, a letter isn’t going to swing my district (or Wyoming, since the Star-Herald also circulates there), but perhaps letters can cause people to think just a bit more about what patriotism is, not what some would have them believe it is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:39:51pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the whining commences:

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FFS he made Ellison vice chair. He himself is legitimately progressive himself. Kiss my ass bros. Stop making everything about you. God these people. Oh and if you don’t feel you have a place in the Democratic Party, you don’t have any right to complain about who we nominate conforming to your ideological standards. Think about that one.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:40:13pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the whining commences:

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There is no future for crybabies in the Democratic Party. If you ever decide to grow up and join the cause, then we’ll be happy to have you.

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:40:39pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:41:05pm

re: #353 Joe Bacon

Had lunch with a friend today and this was the dessert—Raspberry Sorbet in Lemon Cups!

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Awesome!

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

re: #383 HappyWarrior

FFS he made Ellison vice chair. He himself is legitimately progressive himself. Kiss my ass bros. Stop making everything about you. God these people. Oh and if you don’t feel you have a place in the Democratic Party, you don’t have any right to complain about who we nominate conforming to your ideological standards. Think about that one.

They are free to form another party.

No future for progressives in the Democratic Party? I guess I am no true progressive or something.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:41:48pm

re: #382 Anymouse

Well, a letter isn’t going to swing my district (or Wyoming, since the Star-Herald also circulates there), but perhaps letters can cause people to think just a bit more about what patriotism is, not what some would have them believe it is.

It’s not about swinging the district. That sort of thing takes years. When Tim Kaine and Mark Warner first got involved in VA politics, this state was as red as it got. H.W Bush beat Dukakis by nearly 20% here in 1988- the first presidential election of my lifetime. The thing is getting people to think about other perspectives.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:41:53pm

Soooooooo,

When these Bro’s leave the Democratic party and do whatever they want to do, will they call it the Democratic party? What happens when their purity party isn’t pure anymore? Will they leave that one too?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:43:11pm

re: #385 teleskiguy

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They act like goddamn Maoists when it comes to ideological standards. I mean that. And I don’t apologize for saying it. Oh and Bernie needs to stop acting like only he speaks for the working class. His snide remark to Perez was not necessary at all especially when Perez throughout his career has had the support of labor.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:43:35pm

re: #387 Anymouse

They are free to form another party.

No future for progressives in the Democratic Party? I guess I am no true progressive or something.

They think only they can decide. Maoist wannabe assholes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:44:16pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Coward

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He has PTSD from the 2011 WHCD.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:44:37pm

Democratic party is more progressive than it has ever been

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:45:30pm

re: #389 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Soooooooo,

When these Bro’s leave the Democratic party and do whatever they want to do, will they call it the Democratic party? What happens when their purity party isn’t pure anymore? Will they leave that one too?

They call their brand Justice or something like that. Nice name and all. Honestly, what I see them as are people who think they can crap on longtime and loyal groups to the Democratic coalition and claim that it’s not about the candidate- even though it clearly is about Bernie to them. The Bernie fanatics I know only post about Bernie and posts by Bernie. I really think success really was one of the worst things that could have happened to Sanders. Hear me out, I think it inflated his political ego big time and political egos usually do no one no good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:46:02pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:46:57pm

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

He has PTSD from the 2011 WHCD.

Seth Meyers Slams Donald Trump At White House Correspondents’ Dinner!

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:47:21pm

A bunch of creep brittle stars about to be attacked by the claw:

They got one:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:47:47pm

hey all you poor Kentuckians? Gov. Bevin is gonna use you to pay the piper.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:47:56pm

re: #393 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Democratic party is more progressive than it has ever been

But but the New Deal- nevermind the fact that the New Deal happened in the age of Jim Crow and the New Deal programs weren’t open to African-Americans. I love the New Deal but these people have to realize that this is a party in the past 8 years has nominated a black guy for president, a woman for the same office, had a Jewish woman party chair, and now made a Hispanic its chair. Americans of all backgrounds can feel represented in the Democratic Party. That means something to people. And honestly that means something to me more than thinking we can use the same economic language of our grandparents era. And I haven’t even gotten started that nearly every prominent Democrat is a supporter of LGBT equality.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:48:09pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

They call their brand Justice or something like that. Nice name and all. Honestly, what I see them as are people who think they can crap on longtime and loyal groups to the Democratic coalition and claim that it’s not about the candidate- even though it clearly is about Bernie to them. The Bernie fanatics I know only post about Bernie and posts by Bernie. I really think success really was one of the worst things that could have happened to Sanders. Hear me out, I think it inflated his political ego big time and political egos usually do no one no good.

Yeah, I saw that Justice Democrats or whatever. They need to look at Tom Perez. His middle name should be Justice, seeing what he has fought for over the course of the years. But banks and emails and wikileaks and reasons cuz he’s a neoliberal corporatist establishment whatever else bad thing they can say.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:48:39pm

I’m looking forward to the next Vermont Social Democratic leadership convention, where I’m sure they’ll take to heart what I gotta say. //

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:50:00pm
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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:50:04pm

re: #393 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Democratic party is more progressive than it has ever been

And the party adopted much of Senator Sanders’s platform as well.

Perfect (however you define that) is the enemy of the good. It is part of the reason the GOP is going off the rails, beholden to Tea Party types that when they don’t get what they want they primary a politician from the right.

When Eric Cantor was ousted by Dave Brat, the whole party went into a Tea Party spiral trying to appease the Tea Party.

Appeasement doesn’t work. Barry Goldwater noted that way back in 1981.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:50:15pm

re: #400 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Yeah, I saw that Justice Democrats or whatever. They need to look at Tom Perez. His middle name should be Justice, seeing what he has fought for over the course of the years. But banks and emails and wikileaks and reasons cuz he’s a neoliberal corporatist establishment whatever else bad thing they can say.

If Hillary had won, Tom would have been a great successor to Loretta Lynch at DOJ if Lynch was willing to step aside and let HRC choose her own person. I’m familiar with him since his homebase in Montegomery County is across the river from here. The guy as you get has been fighting for justice so much over the years. He really exampifies the Catholic progressive tradition that my grandparents passed on to my father, aunts, and uncles.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:51:43pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart

The very definition of advocacy reporting, or come to think of it just plain good reporting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:52:11pm

Can I be blunt about something as a fairly recent college grad though? It’s nice that Bernie wanted to make tuition affordable for all and that really is a worthy goal but there are other problems too. There’s the problem of people with minority names being less likely to be accepted. And then there’s the problem that many of us do face after we get out of finding good work. I just wish he had talked about that too. I’m grateful to my college education and I’d love for post secondary education to be more affordable for all but I don’t think it was the save all solutio that Senator Sanders has sold it as.

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Varek Raith  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:52:14pm

I need to get this off my chest.

WHO THE FUCK LOOKS TO POLITICIANS FOR INSPIRATION AND ENTHUSIASM?!

Ahem…

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:52:35pm

Uh oh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:52:38pm

sigh…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:55:09pm

re: #408 teleskiguy

Uh oh.

Unicorns with the ability to lasso? I am there!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:56:09pm

re: #403 Anymouse

And the party adopted much of Senator Sanders’s platform as well.

Perfect (however you define that) is the enemy of the good. It is part of the reason the GOP is going off the rails, beholden to Tea Party types that when they don’t get what they want they primary a politician from the right.

When Eric Cantor was ousted by Dave Brat, the whole party went into a Tea Party spiral trying to appease the Tea Party.

Appeasement doesn’t work. Barry Goldwater noted that way back in 1981.

Yeah you had Rep Cummings and Barney Frank on the platform committee. I saw Barney Frank, a man who I ahd thought was long admired by progressives of all stripes suddenly be denounced as an establishment shlil since he had did something for a bank even though Frank’s congressional record was as if not more progressive than Sanders and what’s more, he had a lot of accomplishments too. But because Frank didn’t support Bernie. TRAITOR!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:56:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:57:22pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Woot.

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:57:37pm

re: #410 De Kolta Chair

Unicorns with the ability to lasso? I am there!

You can lasso from a helicopter!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:57:37pm

re: #370 Charles Johnson

Well, he’s a cock and a chicken, so…nice visual double entendre.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:57:56pm

re: #406 HappyWarrior

Can I be blunt about something as a college grad though? It’s nice that Bernie wanted to make tuition affordable for all and that really is a worthy goal but there are other problems too. There’s the problem of people with minority names being less likely to be accepted. And then there’s the problem that many of us do face after we get out of finding good work. I just wish he had talked about that too. I’m grateful to my college education and I’d love for post secondary education to be more affordable for all but I don’t think it was the save all solutio that Senator Sanders has sold it as.

Reduced university costs would certainly be helpful for those now entering college from being debt-ridden for decades afterwards.

By itself however it will not solve the structural problems of wealth inequality that even Sanders identified, nor will it employ people who are either not suited for college or past the time it would be helpful to them, nor a whole host of other things that can and should be addressed.

Improving funding to universities would do a lot more to reign in costs than taxing stock trades (though you can do both).

Hillary Clinton also addressed the issue of university costs. It’s not as if this problem has gone unnoticed by the Democrats until Senator Sanders came along.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 5:58:28pm

re: #353 Joe Bacon

Had lunch with a friend today and this was the dessert—Raspberry Sorbet in Lemon Cups!

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Gah. It looks like an industrial accident.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:00:03pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:00:20pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart

Cont:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:00:43pm

re: #416 Anymouse

Reduced university costs would certainly be helpful for those now entering college from being debt-ridden for decades afterwards.

By itself however it will not solve the structural problems of wealth inequality that even Sanders identified, nor will it employ people who are either not suited for college or past the time it would be helpful to them, nor a whole host of other things that can and should be addressed.

Improving funding to universities would do a lot more to reign in costs than taxing stock trades (though you can do both).

Hillary Clinton also addressed the issue of university costs. It’s not as if this problem has gone unnoticed by the Democrats until Senator Sanders came along.

Right and that’s something I understand as my brother is an undergrad at the moment. It does need to be more affordable. And I know it bothers the hell out of me when I hear older people tell the college kids that want more affordable tuition to stop complaining because “I worked and afforded college”, well tuition was much more affordable in those days. But yes, it’s not as if he were unique. I mean I don’t blame college kids for liking the idea. I like the idea. I just disagree that it was going to be what would ail the beast. I think Clinton also talked a lot about how unpaid internships are often exploitative and that’s certainly true.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:00:59pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTF? Why would we do that?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:01:22pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whew!

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:01:53pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dude. This is all happening too fast. When does the executive order come down that condemns the UN building in New York City so they can build a Russian-funded luxury hotel-casino?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:01:59pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why……..

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:02:27pm

re: #400 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Don’t forget “shill” and “centrist”.

To the BoBs, one’s allegiance during the primaries is everything. Support for or even a positive association with Hillary may as well be the mark of the Beast, with no further examination needed. That’s why a true progressive like Tom Perez has had these false accusations thrown at him by Ellison supporters.

Bernie is God, and everything he says is gospel.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:03:24pm

Learning how to make tasty homemade chorizo is by far the best and worst thing I have ever done.

So much self control involved right now in not going and eating the rest of the leftovers from the fridge.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:04:27pm

re: #425 Moebym

Don’t forget “shill” and “centrist”.

To the BoBs, one’s allegiance during the primaries is everything. Support for or even a positive association with Hillary may as well be the mark of the Beast, with no further examination needed. That’s why a true progressive like Tom Perez has had these false accusations thrown at him by Ellison supporters.

Bernie is God, and everything he says is gospel.

Those damn fools would have pushed for Tulsi Gabbard to be on the ticket or in the administration had Sanders won. They’re all about blind loyalty. Some of them wanted Nina Turner who would be more unqualified than Sarah Palin was to be VP. And I’d be saying that even if I liked Turner.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:05:06pm

re: #426 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Learning how to make tasty homemade chorizo is by far the best and worst thing I have ever done.

So much self control involved right now in not going and eating the rest of the leftovers from the fridge.

I can catch the next flight out west and help out. I’m going to be hungry after a cross-continental flight.

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Anymouse  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:05:41pm

re: #425 Moebym

Don’t forget “shill” and “centrist”.

To the BoBs, one’s allegiance during the primaries is everything. Support for or even a positive association with Hillary may as well be the mark of the Beast, with no further examination needed. That’s why a true progressive like Tom Perez has had these false accusations thrown at him by Ellison supporters.

Bernie is God, and everything he says is gospel.

I still wonder how many of the BoB’s are actual Sanders supporters, and how many are rodent copulators. There was a thread in the Reddit r/The_Donald forum that specifically exhorted people there to go out and sew discord over the DNC chair vote.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:07:53pm

re: #429 Anymouse

I still wonder how many of the BoB’s are actual Sanders supporters, and how many are rodent copulators. There was a thread in the Reddit r/The_Donald forum that specifically exhorted people there to go out and sew discord over the DNC chair vote.

I think a little bit of both honestly. There’s a lot of true believing far left people I know from my own more far left days that are absolutely legit. Now there are other people who no doubt like to sow division within the left. And then there’s a combination, those who certainly are on the left who use right wing bullshit to attach their own side.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:08:33pm

re: #426 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Learning how to make tasty homemade chorizo is by far the best and worst thing I have ever done.

So much self control involved right now in not going and eating the rest of the leftovers from the fridge.

How much is it to ship a refrigerated container to MN, again?

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Moebym  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:08:47pm

re: #429 Anymouse

That doesn’t surprise me in the least. Divide and conquer is a strategy that has stood the test of time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:09:25pm

We introduced my youngest brother’s girlfriend to pierogis tonight. She liked em.

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weave  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:10:03pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is YUGE! I was so worried that was going to flip. There was a lot of Pro-Trump shitposting on Facebook. This is a good sign overall. That district is a solid middle class district.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:10:18pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:11:20pm

re: #428 HappyWarrior

re: #431 thedopefishlives

I posted the recipe last night and can do it again.

Tonight it was with butternut squash (roasted after being drizzled with olive oil and tossed with salt, garlic powder, cumin, pepper, and chili powder), chickpeas, shredded Brussels sprouts, feta cheese, and pomegranate seeds, tossed with a dressing made from lime juice, apple cider vinegar, canola oil, salt, garlic powder, cumin, and smoked paprika.

OH the mouth flavor party.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:11:55pm

re: #436 klys (maker of Silmarils)

One of the best things Chipotle ever did was come out with their chorizo burrito. I won’t order anything else from there ever again. OM NOM NOM.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:12:42pm

re: #437 thedopefishlives

One of the best things Chipotle ever did was come out with their chorizo burrito. I won’t order anything else from there ever again. OM NOM NOM.

I had not heard about this. I’m intrigued now.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:13:12pm

re: #438 HappyWarrior

I had not heard about this. I’m intrigued now.

They came out, what, middle of last year? They are yum.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:13:41pm

re: #437 thedopefishlives

One of the best things Chipotle ever did was come out with their chorizo burrito. I won’t order anything else from there ever again. OM NOM NOM.

Our favorite dish at the local Mexican-inspired eatery downtown (the one we like for the food, as opposed to the margaritas) is the burrito bowl made with chorizo. Like there’s no point in ordering anything else on the menu, it’s just hands down the winner. (Although their guacamole, on a good night, can rival mine.)

It was trying to replicate this that I came across this recipe and NOM NOM NOM.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:14:02pm

re: #439 thedopefishlives

They came out, what, middle of last year? They are yum.

Damn, I hadn’t heard. I hardly ever go to Chipolte anymore.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:14:45pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Damn, I hadn’t heard. I hardly ever go to Chipolte anymore.

We have a $25 gift card to Chipotle courtesy some of his cousins, I guess I know what it’s going to be used for.

(I don’t know if I’ve ever been to one.)

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:15:09pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Damn, I hadn’t heard. I hardly ever go to Chipolte anymore.

There’s one that’s walking distance from my office. On days where I have time and feel like spending money on myself, I haul my fat butt down there and order one. More rarely, I bring Chipotle home for Mrs. Fish and myself; it’s one of our favorite indulgences. She introduced me to it when I moved to MN, since at that time it was much less widespread.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:16:27pm

re: #440 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our favorite dish at the local Mexican-inspired eatery downtown (the one we like for the food, as opposed to the margaritas) is the burrito bowl made with chorizo. Like there’s no point in ordering anything else on the menu, it’s just hands down the winner. (Although their guacamole, on a good night, can rival mine.)

It was trying to replicate this that I came across this recipe and NOM NOM NOM.

When I was out West two years ago, my brother took me to a really good Mom and Pop Mexican place in Kings Beach, CA. What we would do is order a bunch of stuff like fish tacos in corn tortillas, tortes, etc to split. My niece loved it because the ladies who ran the place spoke Spanish and I think she was reminded of her Abuelita.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:16:59pm

re: #442 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We have a $25 gift card to Chipotle courtesy some of his cousins, I guess I know what it’s going to be used for.

(I don’t know if I’ve ever been to one.)

I also know where I am going to eat next time I go to Union Station.

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teleskiguy  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:17:13pm

I used to live walking distance from the very first Chipotle on Evans Ave. in Denver. During the 2012 campaign Mitt Romney showed up to this location and got a great photo out of it with employees.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:17:34pm

re: #442 klys (maker of Silmarils)

re: #445 HappyWarrior

BWA HAHAHAHA!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:17:52pm

re: #443 thedopefishlives

There’s one that’s walking distance from my office. On days where I have time and feel like spending money on myself, I haul my fat butt down there and order one. More rarely, I bring Chipotle home for Mrs. Fish and myself; it’s one of our favorite indulgences. She introduced me to it when I moved to MN, since at that time it was much less widespread.

We have a BBQ place that is temporary shut down- damn good Mac and cheese, a McDonalds, a Taco Bell, and a mom and pop deli that I recently discovered in the basement of an office building. Not too much unfortunately. Oh and a Starbucks at the Metro station.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:18:30pm

re: #447 thedopefishlives

BWA HAHAHAHA!

I also know who I’m blaming when I put on pounds that weekend too!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:19:10pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

When I was out West two years ago, my brother took me to a really good Mom and Pop Mexican place in Kings Beach, CA. What we would do is order a bunch of stuff like fish tacos in corn tortillas, tortes, etc to split. My niece loved it because the ladies who ran the place spoke Spanish and I think she was reminded of her Abuelita.

That’s why I call this one “Mexican-inspired” instead of Mexican. Tacquerias would be Mexican. Then there’s orange-cheese Mexican, which is kind of the standard “what Americans expect Mexican to be” table service places. Then there’s the high end stuff. Then there’s the fusion. Both places downtown probably fall in that category. (One is just standard Mexican, one is Cali-Mex, which means more veggies and avocado.)

CA takes its Mexican food seriously.

(Nothing has beat the high end place we went to in Mexico City.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:20:58pm

re: #450 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s why I call this one “Mexican-inspired” instead of Mexican. Tacquerias would be Mexican. Then there’s orange-cheese Mexican, which is kind of the standard “what Americans expect Mexican to be” table service places. Then there’s the high end stuff. Then there’s the fusion. Both places downtown probably fall in that category. (One is just standard Mexican, one is Cali-Mex, which means more veggies and avocado.)

CA takes its Mexican food seriously.

(Nothing has beat the high end place we went to in Mexico City.)

I think I actually encountered one of those genuine Mexican places when walking around in town yesterday. I had already had lunch so I didn’t stop in but I will in the future. Orange cheese Mexican, I like that. We have a Mexican place that I love because the fajitas are just to die for.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:21:27pm

I normally avoid McDonalds but I will be going there for my annual Shamrock shake.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:22:00pm

re: #451 HappyWarrior

I think I actually encountered one of those genuine Mexican places when walking around in town yesterday. I had already had lunch so I didn’t stop in but I will in the future. Orange cheese Mexican, I like that. We have a Mexican place that I love because the fajitas are just to die for.

mr. klys introduced me to the term, but it’s so true.

I love the variety and will confess that I do a lot of Mexican-inspired cooking. But chorizo is amazing and makes everything better. EVERYTHING.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:22:20pm

re: #451 HappyWarrior

I think I actually encountered one of those genuine Mexican places when walking around in town yesterday. I had already had lunch so I didn’t stop in but I will in the future. Orange cheese Mexican, I like that. We have a Mexican place that I love because the fajitas are just to die for.

Lake St. in Minneapolis is an ethnic extravaganza. Lots of native Mexican and Chinese places. If you’re really into authentic food, take a wander on down through there.

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stpaulbear  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:22:56pm

re: #419 FormerDirtDart

8. From the White House press pool: “The pool is holding in vans and not being allowed inside the [Trump] hotel.”

We’ll have to count on the busboys.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:23:11pm

re: #453 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys introduced me to the term, but it’s so true.

I love the variety and will confess that I do a lot of Mexican-inspired cooking. But chorizo is amazing and makes everything better. EVERYTHING.

It really is. I think Chorizo is really big back in Spain too. Of all the places I’ve been to, I liked Spanish food the best for the sheer variety.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:24:42pm

re: #454 thedopefishlives

Lake St. in Minneapolis is an ethnic extravaganza. Lots of native Mexican and Chinese places. If you’re really into authentic food, take a wander on down through there.

There’s a lot of good places in our county seat. My favorite place is a German place. It has the Doner sandwich. I’m not sure if you’ve seen Dr. Lizardo and I talk about them before but they’re much better than a Gyro (sorry any Greek-American lizards but this German has spoken.). Great fries and great beer. I ate outside there yesterday and I just felt like I was in Germany for a bit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:25:36pm

re: #456 HappyWarrior

It really is. I think Chorizo is really big back in Spain too. Of all the places I’ve been to, I liked Spanish food the best for the sheer variety.

Spanish chorizo and Mexican chorizo are VERY different things. Just so you’re clear.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:27:15pm

re: #458 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Spanish chorizo and Mexican chorizo are VERY different things. Just so you’re clear.

Yeah I figured as much.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:30:11pm

re: #414 teleskiguy

You can lasso from a helicopter!

Nice!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:30:34pm

re: #459 HappyWarrior

Yeah I figured as much.

The biggest thing is that the Spanish stuff is cased and served (typically) dried and then cooked with whatever, while the Mexican stuff can be made at home with ground pork plus spices and OMG it’s a mouth party of flavor.

I have a clear preference.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:31:50pm

re: #461 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The biggest thing is that the Spanish stuff is cased and served (typically) dried and then cooked with whatever, while the Mexican stuff can be made at home with ground pork plus spices and OMG it’s a mouth party of flavor.

I have a clear preference.

Man I’m getting hungry.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:33:33pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

Man I’m getting hungry.

I HAVE LEFTOVERS IN THE FRIDGE and I am not eating them.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:33:48pm

re: #461 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just bought Spanish chorizo (for kale, beans, chorizo). Mexican chorizo I have more uses for, and generally like better.

HW—for comparison purposes, It’s like pepperoni, but with less fat. Very dry, very firm.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:34:34pm

re: #463 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I HAVE LEFTOVERS IN THE FRIDGE and I am not eating them.

By the time I fly out, you might change your mind though.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:35:04pm

re: #464 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I just bought Spanish chorizo (for kale, beans, chorizo). Mexican chorizo I have more uses for, and generally like better.

HW—for comparison purposes, It’s like pepperoni, but with less fat.

I can give you a fantastic recipe for homemade.

It’s not necessarily my favorite-favorite (that would be the Mexican place mentioned downtown), but damn, I am in trouble because I can make it at home anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:35:23pm

re: #464 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I just bought Spanish chorizo (for kale, beans, chorizo). Mexican chorizo I have more uses for, and generally like better.

HW—for comparison purposes, It’s like pepperoni, but with less fat.

Gotcha. I do like pepperoni. I really like breaded meats too. i know they’re not good for you but I love breaded pork, veal, chicken, etc.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:35:49pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

By the time I fly out, you might change your mind though.

I made a second batch of the chorizo and it’s in the freezer. Grinding the spices by hand is a pain so I did two batches at once.

I need a bigger mortar and pestle for this.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:38:51pm

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Schnitzel FTW. German, Czech, swine, cow, Jaegar, Wiener, whatever.

I love me some chacuterie—but yeah, heavy on the nitrites and all that.

re: #468 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You can never have enough mortars and pestles.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:40:05pm

re: #469 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Schnitzel FTW. German, Czech, swine, cow, Jaegar, Wiener, whatever.

I love me some chacuterie—but yeah, heavy on the nitrites and all that.

You can never have enough mortars and pestles.

It’s so true.

Also I ignore the nitirites. Until my doctor tells me I need to care otherwise…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:40:09pm

re: #469 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Schnitzel FTW. German, Czech, swine, cow, Jaegar, Wiener, whatever.

I love me some chacuterie—but yeah, heavy on the nitrites and all that.

Yeah I had a schnitzel sandwich when I was at my favorite German place the other day. Had it with homemade fries and a good wheat beer.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:40:20pm

If the world over the past 200 years was 100 people:

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:40:34pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Congratulations to Thomas Perez, who has just been named Chairman of the DNC. I could not be happier for him, or for the Republican Party!
5:02 PM - 25 Feb 2017
15,427 15,427 Retweets 58,994 58,994 likes

Chicken said what?

Bwuck, Bwuck, Bwuck…Bwaaaaack! Bwaaaaack!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:41:53pm

Also, any Lizards who ever come by San Jose and want food recommendations, please let me know. My knowledge should be used for good.

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Varek Raith  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:43:12pm

So….
Ya’ll gonna share some food or what?
;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:44:01pm

re: #475 Varek Raith

So….
Ya’ll gonna share some food or what?
;)

Come visit and I’m happy to cook.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:44:36pm

re: #476 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Come visit and I’m happy to cook.

Side note: don’t be allergic to cats, and forgive my inability to avoid piles of things. I’m working on it.

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prairiefire  Feb 25, 2017 • 6:59:59pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

Crossed the bridge at St. Joseph. took 36 west to Belleville, turned south, and I’ll have to get my journal to keep going….

So you saw a bit of the hills and trees before you hit the chalklands.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2017 • 7:06:30pm

A Russian server routed through France is trying to hack into LGF right now. Fun.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2017 • 7:06:51pm

re: #479 Charles Johnson

A Russian server routed through France is trying to hack into LGF right now. Fun.

You’re doing good work.


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