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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:05:12pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:07:21pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Some of those things are so bad they really push the limits of Poe’s Law. I mean, if I were going to make up a Twitter profile for a Trumpite, I wouldn’t go that far into the red.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:07:52pm

I am not in the know, but it’s kinda cool that one of my FB friends is a good friend of Peter Holsapple and is promoting his new work, and several others are good friends with Adrian Belew and are promoting his recent live performance. I’m a putz who never amounted to much, but at least I can drop names.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:09:15pm

Y’know, Keith is right that an investigation is absolutely necessary, but he’s such a pompous gasbag about it that I can’t get through his videos. He lost me in the first three words on this one. “I call for…” Whatever, Keith.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:09:17pm
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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:10:16pm

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:11:05pm

re: #6 Belafon

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

Jesus that’s disturbing.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:11:21pm

Japanese Interpreter: Translating Trump Word For Word Makes Us ‘Sound Stupid’

nald Trump says things that can defy description—and that’s proving a challenge for translators around the globe.

Tokyo-based translator Chikako Tsuruta told the Japan Times that translating the president into Japanese is a challenge, what with the lack of logic or concern for facts.

“[Trump] rarely speaks logically, and he only emphasizes one side of things as if it were the absolute truth,” Tsuruta said. “There are lots of moments when I suspected his assertions were factually dubious.”

Tsuruta, who has worked for CNN, ABC and CBS, says Trump’s hyperbolic rhetorical style puts her and translators like her at risk of a kind of guilt by association.

“He is so overconfident and yet so logically unconvincing that my interpreter friends and I often joke that if we translated his words as they are, we would end up making ourselves sound stupid,” Tsuruta said.

Another challenge interpreters face: rendering Trump’s disjointed speech patterns.

Try to make sense of this word salad dished up by the president when he was campaigning last summer:

Here is a transcript:

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT. Good genes, very good genes, OK? Very smart: the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart. You know, if you’re a conservative Republican—if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican, they try—oh, do they do a number. That’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune. You know, I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged. But you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me: it would have been so easy—and it’s not as important as these lives are. Nuclear is so powerful. My uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power—and that was 35 years ago—he would explain the power of what’s going to happen, and he was right. Who would have thought? But when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners— now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three. And even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger: “Fellas,”—and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so you know it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so … And they, they just killed, they just killed us.
As euronews.com points out, it’s enough to make frustrated interpreters throw up their hands and just write, “the Iranians talked rings around us at the negotiations.”

French interpreter Bérengère Viennot said Trump is not easy to translate because he seems “not to know quite where he’s going.”

“He seems to hang onto a word in the question, or to a word that pops into his mind, repeating it over and over again,” she told the Los Angeles Review of Books. Even if you understand his point, you still have to express it another language.

“You realize, at that moment, that you have written something very unpleasant to read. Trump’s vocabulary is limited, his syntax is broken; he repeats the same phrases over and over, forcing the translator to follow suit,” she said. “The translator has to translate the content and the style. So that is what I do, and reading Trump in French, which is a very structured and logical language, reveals the poor quality of his language and, consequently, of his thought.”

For all the challenges interpreters face in translating Trump into other languages, the fact remains that understanding him in English is no cakewalk either.

Chicago Tribune columnist Rex Huppke recently came up with a cheat sheet to help Americans understand what certain key phrases favored by the president really mean:

Bad: Generally means “good,” particularly when applied to something good that Trump considers bad.

Good: Not good at all. Trumpglish synonyms of this word include “the best,” “the greatest,” “spectacular,” “amazing” and “so amazing.”

Fake news: Real news that makes Trump look bad.

huffingtonpost.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:11:22pm

re: #4 stpaulbear

Y’know, Keith is right that an investigation is absolutely necessary, but he’s such a pompous gasbag about it that I can’t get through his videos. He lost me in the first three words on this one. “I call for…” Whatever, Keith.

I figure it’s all different strokes for different folks. Some people are more receptive to the message if it comes across that way. Others not so much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:11:39pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the next time you think you’re catching flak from your boss, remember this.

(Too soon?)

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:17:18pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

“True Democracy” which is why the guy who came in 2nd place won.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:19:40pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:19:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:21:06pm

Rachel Maddow is hammering on the topic of Wilbur Ross tonight. This country is in so much trouble. The government is in the hands of fucking villains.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:21:38pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

He is using a Sharpie. OMG.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:22:11pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

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Holy shit, he really DOES have small hands! Look how big the pen is!!

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:22:44pm

re: #6 Belafon

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

That was the intent of his early campaign start.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:22:57pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Rachel Maddow is hammering on the topic of Wilbur Ross tonight. This country is in so much trouble. The government is in the hands of fucking villains.

Yeah the miners rooting for Trump need to look up Ross.

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The Spite House  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:25:30pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Rachel Maddow is hammering on the topic of Wilbur Ross tonight. This country is in so much trouble. The government is in the hands of fucking villains.

Artist’s rendition of the first full cabinet meeting.

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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:26:00pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Rachel Maddow is hammering on the topic of Wilbur Ross tonight. This country is in so much trouble. The government is in the hands of fucking villains.

The worst part is that we’re pretty much at the mercy of the GOP’s own sense of venality and self-preservation, and judging by Rep. Nunes’ comments, we’re still deep in it enough that absolutely nothing will penetrate from the sheer amount of cover Congressional Rs are going to give Trump and his goons.

We’re in the weeds with only a kitchen knife to hack our way through with.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:27:49pm

Looks like ol’ Frankie boy got himself a woody from the DNC election….

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:28:41pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Jesus that’s disturbing.

I heard that several weeks ago. I doubt this isn’t a real thing.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:29:08pm

Trump’s brought in a cabal of cronies who will sabotage government and loot our resources for their personal profits. We’re seeing this with every single person Trump’s brought in - or attempted to bring in.

And all of them are compromised in some fashion. All of them.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:29:31pm

re: #6 Belafon

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

Is this not a direct test of the First Amendment?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:29:48pm

re: #21 Eric The Fruit Bat

Looks like ol’ Frankie boy got himself a woody from the DNC election….

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Sorry Frank but you’re going to be disappointed when your side loses in 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:30:18pm

re: #22 MsJ

I heard that several weeks ago. I doubt this isn’t a real thing.

Yeah wouldn’t be shocked.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:30:29pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:30:41pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Sorry Frank but you’re going to be disappointed when your side loses in 2020.

…if we’re still alive….

I just hope the Dems take the midterms and force the publication of Trump’s tax returns-then you’ll see the real fur fly……

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:30:42pm

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I figure it’s all different strokes for different folks. Some people are more receptive to the message if it comes across that way. Others not so much.

I’m all for the messages right now. We are up against so much we need the overall team efforts.

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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:31:15pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Sorry Frank but you’re going to be disappointed when your side loses in 2020.

I’m not convinced we’re making it to 2018 anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:31:37pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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That’s heartbreaking.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:32:17pm

re: #30 Citizen K

I’m not convinced we’re making it to 2018 anymore.

I dunno. Perhaps Trump’s vanity could come in handy here and he’ll be eager to “prove” how popular he is.

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Major Tom  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:32:19pm

re: #30 Citizen K

After the last election, (serious question) if nothing is done, is 2018 trust-worthy?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:32:42pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:33:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:33:58pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

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Traumatizing? More like laugh worthy. It’s because Trump doesn’t know how to eat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:34:37pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

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With a solid gold fork. Jeezes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:34:52pm

Rightists like Paul don’t understand. We’re not enraged by Trump eating steak like meatloaf. We’re amused. You guys are constantly talking about what macho men you are and your guy eats steak like a litlte boy.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:35:43pm

re: #30 Citizen K

I’m not convinced we’re making it to 2018 anymore.

I’m with you.

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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:36:41pm

re: #33 Major Tom

After the last election, (serious question) if nothing is done, is 2018 trust-worthy?

I mean….things are being done, at least with what power is even available to our side. But the way things are stacked, I’m not convinced we as a country even make it to that election. Sessions is already giving a preview of the legal nightmare for non-white Americans for years to come, the investigative committees in Congress are deadset on investigating anything but Trump, healthcare is gone and GOP Don’t Care, pretty much, we have a bulwark of the courts left and that’s it, and that’s if Gorsuch doesn’t make it the unassailable, invincible trifecta of codified IOKIYAR.

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Major Tom  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:37:58pm

re: #40 Citizen K

What do you see happening? Hypothetically.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:38:01pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

It’s not about understanding; they’re not trying to understand. They just want to repeat the caricature that allows to utterly void the opinions of everyone they deem “sensitive” or “outraged.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:38:13pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Rightists like Paul don’t understand. We’re not enraged by Trump eating steak like meatloaf. We’re amused. You guys are constantly talking about what macho men you are and your guy eats steak like a litlte boy.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:38:21pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

> according to the intelligence report

Okay.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:38:42pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Sorry Frank but you’re going to be disappointed when your side loses in 2020.

Unlike Bernie, Keith will keep his people in line.

I swear, I’m all for the big tent, but there’s times I wish we could just tell some of these people the Democrats simply are not a 3rd Party option.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:39:08pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:39:11pm

re: #41 Major Tom

What do you see happening? Hypothetically.

TEOCAWKI

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:39:28pm

re: #21 Eric The Fruit Bat

Looks like ol’ Frankie boy got himself a woody from the DNC election….

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Meanwhile, in an alternate universe, wingnuts are screaming aloud that the DNC has gone full communist with the election of Keith Ellison and have doomed themselves in 2020.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:39:53pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Traumatizing? More like laugh worthy. It’s because Trump doesn’t know how to eat.

And so fitting that he’s eating it with a gold salad fork (probably thinks it makes his hands look bigger.)

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:40:14pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Rachel Maddow is hammering on the topic of Wilbur Ross tonight. This country is in so much trouble. The government is in the hands of fucking villains.

I see from wikipedia that Wilbur is 79 years old and has been a force in business circles since the time of the Mad Men.
Among other things he is the head man, or “Grand Swipe” (for real), of the Wall Street secret society Kappa Beta Phi.
As if his other offenses were not bad enough, he is a turncoat, a copperhead, since he was a registered Democrat and even a party activist until fairly recently (circa 2011). His political conversion coincides roughly with his alleged culpability in the Sago Mine Disaster. Figures, the killers know which side their bread is buttered on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:41:17pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Traumatizing? More like laugh worthy. It’s because Trump doesn’t know how to eat.

The guy eats New York Pizza with a knife and fork.

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Major Tom  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:41:30pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

TEOCAWKI

Ah. Casablanca La Marseillaise

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:43:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:46:04pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:46:39pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
Trump’s congressional address is guaranteed to be a grotesque clusterfuck of xenophobia and fear-mongering. The USA is in so much trouble.
9:42 PM - 27 Feb 2017
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It’ll be some dressed up I’m Great Keep Voting (And Clapping) For Trump campaign speech.

It is all he can muster and he’s terrible at it even with prompters or big ass printed notes.

He will never be capable of giving any speech that actually moves people emotionally. He has no emotions other than + and - signs.

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freetoken  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:47:34pm

BTW, the latest documentary series hosted by Prof. Gates is now online, about civilizations in Africa (first episode tonight):

pbs.org

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:47:44pm

re: #52 Major Tom

Ah. [Embedded content]

I read last year (IIRC) that that actress was the last cast member of Casablanca to die.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:49:34pm

re: #40 Citizen K

I mean….things are being done, at least with what power is even available to our side. But the way things are stacked, I’m not convinced we as a country even make it to that election. Sessions is already giving a preview of the legal nightmare for non-white Americans for years to come, the investigative committees in Congress are deadset on investigating anything but Trump, healthcare is gone and GOP Don’t Care, pretty much, we have a bulwark of the courts left and that’s it, and that’s if Gorsuch doesn’t make it the unassailable, invincible trifecta of codified IOKIYAR.

After the election, I did the doom and gloom thing pretty hard. I’ve come out of it because of the people I’ve seen protest, the acts of kindness I’ve seen in reaction to the assholes, and the enthusiasm of Democrats getting in representatives faces.

All of the things you’ve described have occurred in this country before. And they occurred at a time when most of the country, which meant most of the whites, didn’t care. Yes, a majority of whites are still bigots and idiots, but they aren’t the majority any more. And based on what has been happening since Trump’s swearing in, his “agenda”, for what it is, is going to a hard time getting truly implemented. Oh, I know Ryan and McConnell are ready to do some damage, but there will be ways for us to fight.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:49:58pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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8 years of “THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!” just went up in smoke with a single vote.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:50:09pm

re: #56 freetoken

BTW, the latest documentary series hosted by Prof. Gates is now online, about civilizations in Africa (first episode tonight):

pbs.org

I really hope they don’t cut PBS. So much thought provoking programming on there. I was watching a really good discussion on CSPAN the otehr day by the author of a book about civil wars.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:50:42pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I’d be willing to bet my freshman retired General Bergman voted Aye.

Do these votes get recorded?

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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:51:01pm

re: #41 Major Tom

What do you see happening? Hypothetically.

Hypothetically? War, as Trump has pretty much telegraphed he wants to start a war, any fucking war, at this point, and between Sessions, an amassed Border Patrol, a cruelly subservient CBP, and god knows how many police departments in the thrall of Sessions’s fellow travelers, we’re probably going to see a mass crackdown on dissent, coupled with legal harassment meant to scare minority votes into submission, and those who aren’t scared will just get shuffled off under specious bullshit, all in the name of security. We’re already seeing Muslims, Latinos, and Jews being put to the thumb, and we’re likely to see just as much implicit acceptance of that (if Trumps ugly silence regarding the spate of harassment, threats, and vandalism against Jewish Comm. Centers is any indication).

And on top of that, the godawful Bern-or-Die coalition with all intention to sabotage any and every thing a Dem touches because they’re a ‘neo lib’ shitting the well even further (and god help me, I have no more faith in the Demographic changes, between the focused targeting of minorities and seemingly every single Millenial I interact with on a regular basis now seeming to go either hardcore Trump fanatic or Bern-or Die, with zero inbetween anymore).

I’m likely being paranoid and depressive about this, yeah, since this is pretty worst case scenario, but it still doesn’t change the fact that Trump and gang pretty much have a full-on carte blanche without some amount of defections from the GOP soon, and at the pace they’re going now, if that doesn’t happen by the end of the year, we might be buried by the time 2018 election rolls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:51:22pm

re: #61 Eric The Fruit Bat

And I’d be willing to bet my freshman retired General Bergman voted Aye.

Do these votes get logged?

yes

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:54:09pm
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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:54:38pm

re: #58 Belafon

After the election, I did the doom and gloom thing pretty hard. I’ve come out of it because of the people I’ve seen protest, the acts of kindness I’ve seen in reaction to the assholes, and the enthusiasm of Democrats getting in representatives faces.

All of the things you’ve described have occurred in this country before. And they occurred at a time when most of the country, which meant most of the whites, didn’t care. Yes, a majority of whites are still bigots and idiots, but they aren’t the majority any more. And based on what has been happening since Trump’s swearing in, his “agenda”, for what it is, is going to a hard time getting truly implemented. Oh, I know Ryan and McConnell are ready to do some damage, but there will be ways for us to fight.

I’m trying to keep the faith, I honestly am, but the aftermath of the DNC election where I saw how virulent and impenetrable the Bern-Or-Die sector was, just how far it seemed to reach, combined with how fast Dolt 45’s gang is moving to put a stranglehold on it all just sent me spiraling back in.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:54:51pm

re: #58 Belafon

If anything, the natural lethargy of the federal government will slow things down, especially if the ACLU and other groups tie things up in the courts.

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:56:00pm

re: #62 Citizen K

Not just Muslims, Latinos and Jews; rising tide against South Asians and East Asians are certainly next.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:56:08pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s a crime against cuisine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:56:45pm

According to the above WP article, Ivanka enjoys dining out at non-kosher restaurants.

On Saturday at BLT Prime, the president was initially joined for his favorite meal of the day by British politician Nigel Farage, Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Trump’s daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner. More of an eater than her father, Ivanka Trump has shown an interest in both breakfast and Italian fare as first daughter, having been spotted by day at Open City, the Four Seasons and the Hay Adams and by night at RPM Italian and Tosca, all in Washington.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:57:29pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

According to the above WP article, Ivanka enjoys dining out at non-kosher restaurants.

Well I know places to avoid now. Granted pretty much anywhere a Trump would likely go would be out of my budget.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:57:38pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

We are done as a country. The Republicans are going to back everything Trump and they’re not going to give up power for any reason. We are no longer a democracy nor are we a functioning republic.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:58:18pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

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As goofy as eating a steak with ketchup is, this truly is a distraction. It ranks up there with going after Pence for eating at a Chili’s in NYC.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:58:22pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where can I find my traitorous Representative’s vote?

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 6:59:46pm

re: #71 MsJ

We are done as a country. The Republicans are going to back everything Trump and they’re not going to give up power for any reason. We are no longer a democracy nor are we a functioning republic.

We’re a banana republic, a “representative democracy” that crowned the man who lost the majority vote because of an antiquated system from two centuries ago that was designed to show preference to the landed gentry over the unwashed masses.

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Citizen K  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:00:11pm

re: #67 gwangung

Not just Muslims, Latinos and Jews; rising tide against (see South Asians and East Asians are certainly next.

Well, that’s fucking fun. I was almost sure they’d “only” be collateral damage of the hate-on for Muslims/Arab-Americans. But what should I expect, they’re BROWN after all….

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:01:33pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

Kosher restaurants in Washington DC, that Ivanka & Jared wouldn’t be caught dead in.

Jared and Ivanka are what some Christians would call “backbenchers” — folks who attend church mostly for being seen going to church, but with no sincere belief.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:04:45pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

More of an eater than her father, Ivanka Trump has shown an interest in both breakfast and Italian fare as first daughter, having been spotted by day at Open City, the Four Seasons and the Hay Adams and by night at RPM Italian and Tosca, all in Washington.

Two years ago I went for breakfast at Poppycock’s Café in Aspen, and who do I see but Ivanka and Jared and their three children (and two nannies) having breakfast. I never thought in a million years she’d be acting First Lady two years in the future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:05:04pm

re: #73 Eric The Fruit Bat

Where can I find my traitorous Representative’s vote?

it will be here eventually. It’s not there yet.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:05:06pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

We’re a banana republic, a “representative democracy” that crowned the man who lost the majority vote because of an antiquated system from two centuries ago that was designed to show preference to the landed gentry over the unwashed masses.

Normally I’m the last person in the world to be a bit optimistic, but lets see how the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election go.

Trump is going to be bad for business, and the Chamber of Commerce types aren’t going to put up with that indefinitely.

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bratwurst  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:05:12pm

Little Marco: Tough on Big Daddy Vladdy!

(Ok, he is squishy on investigating Russia’s role in getting Trump elected…and he refused to stand in the way of a personal friend of Putin’s becoming Secretary of State…but still…)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:06:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:07:23pm

re: #81 bratwurst

Little Marco: Tough on Big Daddy Vladdy!

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Marco has one thing in common with Putin. He’s afraid to face those who disagree with him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:08:19pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Normally I’m the last person in the world to be a bit optimistic, but lets see how the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election go.

Trump is going to be bad for business, and the Chamber of Commerce types aren’t going to put up with that indefinitely.

I haven’t given into despair, I’m just being my usual cynical self. With the number of Dem seats up for reelection next year, the best hope I have at this moment is status quo ante bellum come Jan 2019. And that assumes that there is not another 9/11-style event that the GOP can exploit for the “rally-around-the-flag” effect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:08:29pm

she’s wearing her shoes on that sofa

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:09:15pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

she’s wearing her shoes on that sofa

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I’ll bet she’s not wearing underpants.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:09:56pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Normally I’m the last person in the world to be a bit optimistic, but lets see how the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election go.

Trump is going to be bad for business, and the Chamber of Commerce types aren’t going to put up with that indefinitely.

I did my low after the election last year. I’m back to as long as I’m alive. It’s not hope, it’s that very few things come easy. This election, some people are going to have to learn some hard lessons the rest of us have tried to keep them from having to learn. I’m just going to keep working and pushing forward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:10:01pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:10:35pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks-I’m registered and have my Outlook rule setup.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:10:50pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll bet she’s not wearing underpants.

That made me laugh.

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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:11:10pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Normally I’m the last person in the world to be a bit optimistic, but lets see how the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election go.

As said above, I’d prefer to see results sooner in case we don’t have that long o_O

There are a few positive signs:

Gov. Doug Ducey and the Republican leader of the Arizona House declared dead Monday a controversial bill that would punish organizers of public protests that turn violent with racketeering charges.

Arizona has been a frequent target of late-night monologues mocking the state’s policies, politics and personalities including former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, former Gov. Jan Brewer and legislation ranging from immigration to religious freedom. Ducey has pledged to avoid unnecessary embarrassments that could damage the state’s reputation and potential for economic growth.

Snark may save the day after all ;)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:11:59pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:13:21pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her pose can be spliced into most any porn video, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:15:43pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:17:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:18:39pm

re: #95 Interesting Times

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She needs to run for President.

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DuckDharma  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:18:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:19:47pm

re: #97 DuckDharma

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You fired Obama’s people, you senile dumbass.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:21:14pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Fuck you, Chez. I’m going to miss the hell out of you. But right now? Fuck you.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:22:37pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

You fired Obama’s people, you senile dumbass.

He’s likely referring to the “shadow government” Obama is running from his new home. It’s the latest RWNJ conspiracy theory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:23:22pm

heh (look at her phone screen)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:23:36pm

re: #100 wheat-dogg

He’s likely referring to the “shadow government” Obama is running from his new home. It’s the latest RWNJ conspiracy theory.

Ah.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:23:44pm

I’ve lost two dear friends to opiates. One with pills and one with heroin. I feel the pain and frustration with everybody in Chez’s circle. It’s so absolutely needless and preventable. Fuck, man.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:24:06pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh (look at her phone screen)

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Rather have Charmander in charge than Trump.

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Major Tom  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:24:57pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

I know a couple too. I’m just at “fuck you” at this point. They pain they cause others Never Ends.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:24:57pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

I’ve lost two dear friends to opiates. One with pills and one with heroin. I feel the pain and frustration with everybody in Chez’s circle. It’s so absolutely needless and preventable. Fuck, man.

I have too. It never gets easier. We really need to do something about mental illness in this country and also drug addiction.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:25:47pm

re: #99 teleskiguy

As much as I hate to say this, I sadly concur. He should have checked himself into some place for chrissakes.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:25:56pm

re: #100 wheat-dogg

He’s likely referring to the “shadow government” Obama is running from his new home. It’s the latest RWNJ conspiracy theory.

How pathetic is one’s own presidency that they have to believe that the last guy in office is behind a shadowy effort to undermine them? Can you imagine Hillary being so crass as to accuse Obama of any early day issues?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:26:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:27:59pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:28:50pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

We really need to do something about mental illness in this country and also drug addiction.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:29:08pm

For those of you in the DFW area, Dale Hanson will be talking during the ten pm news about the trans boy who had to wrestle as a girl. Based on his talks about similar topics, I think this will be good.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:30:08pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

I commented about my friend who died of a heroin overdose on this board.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:30:20pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:30:55pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not only are Trump’s inner circle deranged, they’re uncouth and un-civilized as well.

Gaah.

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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:33:31pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:39:18pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll bet she’s not wearing underpants.

Brain bleach-STAT!

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:39:27pm

re: #116 Interesting Times

Or his net worth

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Joe Bacon  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:39:50pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

😭

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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:39:57pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:43:03pm

You just know there’s some major shit they don’t want made public.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:45:36pm

re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus

My Congresscritter Scott Tipton (F* - Cortez, CO) voted to not release the tax returns. He’s also in favor of H.R. 861 which would abolish the E.P.A.

* “F” for Fascist

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:46:05pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Dammit.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:46:22pm

re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:50:08pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

2020 when a Dem beats Trump. They should refuse to release theirs… just to see the reaction of everyone currently against Trump releasing his.

But in reality, the Dem nominee will have nothing to hide.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:51:37pm

re: #125 GlutenFreeJesus

Hillary released *30 years* worth of her and Bill’s returns! I seen ‘em! They’re on the Internet!

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:53:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:54:06pm

Someone mentioned the Sago Mine disaster upthread. After 9/11 I started collecting newspapers and magazines about important world events. As you can guess after 16 years the collection has become pretty expansive. It includes this paper with a very infamous headline:

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Stanley Sea  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:54:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:55:50pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Just like the assholes who go after Sikhs because they wear turbans.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:57:52pm

Back from an emergency village board meeting.

A whole street of fire hydrants are out, plus the state dumped on us a bunch of paperwork saying you need a contract in a couple weeks to fix your water tower.

We’ve gotten one bid for our water tower, for $20,000. The discussion about that centred around will we take that bid or wait longer ($20,000 is a lot of money, plus state law does not allow a village to go over its budget). A good chunk of the town was at the board meeting (and I found out how outnumbered I am as a man in the village - the only other man at the meeting was the village attorney and he doesn’t live here).

Some protest about withdrawing $20,000 from the village checking account, but there really isn’t much we can do about it. The state wants this done by 1 April and the iron company doesn’t want to do this in the winter. Gaaaa.

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:59:19pm

N.Y. EXEC KNEW OF PROBLEMS: EX-HONCHOS

Ross, a legendary figure on Wall Street renowned for his ability to profit from troubled industries like coal and steel, took an ownership stake in Anker Coal in 2002, weeks before the company sought bankruptcy protection, say SEC documents.

“Wilbur had had his executives in there, reporting back to him on a daily basis,” said a former senior executive at ICG.

“He knew the mine was troubled,” said the executive, who told The Post that Ross knew the Sago mine had been shut down for safety violations - but he wouldn’t tolerate long disruptions in production.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 27, 2017 • 7:59:24pm

Check out this brownshirt

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Moebym  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:01:05pm

How about no?

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:01:43pm

re: #131 Anymouse

Your village is named Themyscira?

en.wikipedia.org

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:02:43pm

re: #134 Moebym

How about no?

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Extortion threats don’t impress me.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:03:12pm

re: #134 Moebym

Obama said, “Yes we can!”
Republicans said, “No you won’t”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:04:11pm

Well, that doesn’t seem particularly normal…
Luckily, no sod was damaged in this catastrophe
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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:06:07pm

re: #134 Moebym

How about no?

Media Matters ✔ @mmfa
Greta Van Susteren: Democrats must applaud Trump or they will look like they don’t want America to be great again mm4a.org
9:18 PM - 27 Feb 2017

And that is the in-depth, political commentary NBC/MSNBC hired her to provide.

Uuch.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:07:35pm

re: #6 Belafon

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

re: #24 ObserverArt

Is this not a direct test of the First Amendment?

No. Civil servants and military personnel may not speak out (officially) for or against candidates - it is considered using your government position to campaign.

She should be able to speak out privately against him (for example on her Facebook page, as long as it does not identify her as a DOD employee).

Another example: She could go to a campaign rally against him, and can even speak against him, but cannot identify herself as a DOD employee when she does it.

This came up with Gordon Klingenschmidtt (former Navy Chaplain). He spoke at a conservative rally (in uniform). The Navy hammered him for disobeying a lawful order. He claimed the Navy was trying to shut down his religious freedoms (he led a prayer at that rally). He was ousted from the Navy for the order violation (and he has since used it as wingnut welfare and a ticket to the Colorado Legislature that his religious freedoms were violated).

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:08:36pm

re: #135 wheat-dogg

Your village is named Themyscira?

en.wikipedia.org

LOL. It sure looked like that tonight.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:12:22pm

Yes, they plan to equate the establishment and growth of Historically Black Universities and Colleges to “School Choice”

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:13:00pm

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

Yes, they plan to equate the establishment and growth of Historically Black Universities and Colleges to “School Choice”

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Jaw. Drop.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:15:30pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:17:28pm

re: #144 Belafon

Fine specimen of the white race I see. //

You talkin’ ‘bout Kellyanne?

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:19:02pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Normally I’m the last person in the world to be a bit optimistic, but lets see how the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election go.

Trump is going to be bad for business, and the Chamber of Commerce types aren’t going to put up with that indefinitely.

He’s already destroying the international tourism industry. It represents a significant fraction of the entire economy. Couple that with the CBP raid on a domestic flight, and the domestic tourist and transportation industries will suffer as well.

It stinks that we might have to depend on large corporations to reign in the conservatives but at this point I’ll take whatever help I can get.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:19:04pm

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

re: #143 retired cynic

Yeah, these asshats are the kids we all remember from our childhood who were asleep in history class.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:20:10pm

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:24:23pm

re: #148 Belafon

The problem is, those who don’t know better will be the ones to take this as Fact.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:24:30pm

re: #134 Moebym

How about no?

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What else would you expect to hear from a lobotomized $¢ientologi$t?

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:24:44pm

re: #134 Moebym

How about no?

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Hey Greta, remember when a major conservative radio celebrity declared within weeks of the first black president being elected that he hoped he failed? And conservatives lied to us that he didn’t really mean it, he’s an entertainer and he was just saying it to get attention?

Yeah, you may not, but millions of us who had to sit through eight years of that shit do.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:27:11pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:29:33pm

The Germans are not screwing around with their Carnival political themed floats this year…

Seriously NSFW
spiegel.de

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:31:12pm
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Moebym  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:31:16pm

re: #150 Joe Bacon

What else would you expect to hear from a lobotomized $¢ientologi$t?

I had no idea she was a Scientology cult member.

Explains quite a bit.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:33:35pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

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Is this what they call “pissing on my leg and calling it rain”?

Got it in one. Betsy’s plan seems to be to argue that the problem is not a lack of funding (which most experts will say is exactly the problem), but that lack of “choice” is preventing kids from getting quality educations.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:41:24pm
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Semper Fi  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:43:15pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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A gorgeous pizza…but please, hold the mayo.

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TedStriker  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:43:53pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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no no NO, HELL NO!!!

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:45:11pm

This is the gal that got arrested after the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church massacre in Charleston, SC for taking the Confederate flag down at the Capitol in Columbia, relaying a big fear of mine.

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freetoken  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:49:13pm

We live in a culture where the minds of many have been dulled by their need for comfort and escape, and for which they’ve turned to religious fables and nationalistic myths.

In such an environment of course we’re going to get the twisted history as we see from DeVos.

re: #160 teleskiguy

We’re also going to get dysfunction all over the place.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:49:18pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That shit is like weaponized whiteness, actually made me nauseated.

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:51:03pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:52:48pm
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freetoken  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:53:09pm

I warmed up a pizza for dinner just now… it does not have peas and mayo on it.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:54:20pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

Just got back from a nice restaurant dinner full of delicious Steak au Poivre and to be honest I really didn’t need to see that.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:55:06pm
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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:55:08pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

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Reuters thought this was more important to include:

His reddish-brown hair was short on the side and spiked on top. He had sideburns to his jawbone and the shadow of a beard.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:55:23pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

Just got back from a nice restaurant dinner full of delicious Steak au Poivre and to be honest I really didn’t need to see that.

Sorry. Once I saw the horror I had to share.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:58:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:59:06pm

First they came for the guacamole …

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 8:59:46pm
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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:01:28pm

re: #172 FormerDirtDart

If I wasn’t screaming, I’d laugh.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:05:57pm

I wonder how many twitter accounts will be suspended for cursing in tweets using that hashtag?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:08:52pm

OK, people just suck.
Wasn’t killing baby dolphins so you can take a selfie enough?

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:09:14pm

Dale Hansen makes another great statement, this time about Mack Beggs, the boy Texas decided needed to wrestle as a girl because that was his birth gender: wfaa.com.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:11:39pm

This time around it’s “first they came for the Muslims,” but I’m sure they’ll get around to the socialists eventually.

Socialist Alternative sent me an E-mail noting they will have a response to Mr. Trump’s speech tomorrow. (I am not a member of the Socialist Alternative Party; I suspect they got my name from the Democratic Socialists of America.)

WATCH LIVE!
Socialist Response to Trump!
TOMORROW!
Tuesday, February 28,
5:45 PM PST / 8:45 EST
Watch LIVE! Socialist Alternative Seattle City Councilmember Kshama Sawant’s socialist response to Trump’s address!
In Trump’s first month of office he has unleashed a blizzard of attacks on Muslims, immigrants, refugees, the LGBTQ community, and working people as a whole. Tomorrow Trump is addressing a joint session of Congress - the equivalent of the State of the Union for a president’s first year in office - where he is expected to announce the next wave of attacks - severe cuts to social programs to fund an astounding increase in military spending. He is also expected to announce further attacks on the Affordable Care Act and immigrant rights.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:12:59pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:13:49pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

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I think you have left and right mixed up.

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:14:31pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

People Suck

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:14:47pm

re: #179 Blind Frog Belly White

I fixed it.

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451_Montag  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:16:59pm

Ot but I’m in the Sambadrome in Rio watching the Carnival parade from the front row in front of the judges. It does not get better than this!!!!!!!

Beer is good

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:17:32pm

re: #182 451_Montag

Ot but I’m in the Sambadrome in Rio watching the Carnival parade from the front row in front of the judges. It does not get better than this!!!!!!!

Beer is good

Well, hoot!

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Moebym  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:17:46pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

Sooner or later we’re going to eradicate our own species, but not before eradicating all other life on this planet (with the possible exception of cockroaches).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:17:54pm

In an attempt to make up for the pizza tweet:

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bratwurst  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:18:01pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:20:02pm

re: #182 451_Montag

Ot but I’m in the Sambadrome in Rio watching the Carnival parade from the front row in front of the judges. It does not get better than this!!!!!!!

Beer is good

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:22:04pm

Who could have guessed that Trump did this much jewelry shopping?
//

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451_Montag  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:23:05pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Not far off that

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:34:00pm

Ohio Bill to Outlaw Marital Rape Gets Zero Support from GOP Lawmakers (goes to Raw Story), begins:

Republican state lawmakers in Ohio are refusing to back a bill that would repeal the state’s “spousal exemption” for marital rape.

Democratic state Rep. Greta Johnson told the Akron Beacon Journal that she first introduced HB 234 in 2015 because marital rape is legal in Ohio as long as the rapist uses no force or threat of force, meaning a husband could legally drug and rape his wife.

“As a former prosecutor, I would argue that you could still try to prosecute under the forced rape statute, but unfortunately drugging and raping your spouse in Ohio is not illegal,” Johnson explained.

The 2015 bill died in committee with no Republican support. Johnson blamed the failure on partisanship and opposition to a provision that dropped the 20-year statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:36:55pm

re: #190 Anymouse

What millennium is this again?

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:37:30pm

re: #191 retired cynic

What millennium is this again?

The Biblical one, apparently.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:37:34pm

So that “meeting” with the HBCU presidents was supposed to be a conference with DeVos and other Cabinet officers. Instead, Trump hijacked the scheduled meeting for a grip-and-grin photo op (with added couch entertainment) and most of the presidents never got to speak about policy.

The president of Dillard U:

On Friday I learned that I was selected to give remarks today for the meeting at the White House with members of the Trump administration, most notably Secretary Betsy DeVos. We learned this weekend that there would be closing remarks by Vice President Pence, but the goal was for officials from a number of Federal agencies (about 5 were there including OMB) and Secretary DeVos to hear about HBCUs.

That all blew up when the decision was made to take the presidents to the Oval Office to see the President. I’m still processing that entire experience. But needless to say that threw the day off and there was very little listening to HBCU presidents today- we were only given about 2 minutes each, and that was cut to one minute, so only about 7 of maybe 15 or so speakers were given an opportunity today.

More at the link.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:41:00pm

re: #193 wheat-dogg

So that “meeting” with the HBCU presidents was supposed to be a conference with DeVos and other Cabinet officers. Instead, Trump hijacked the scheduled meeting for a grip-and-grin photo op (with added couch entertainment) and most of the presidents never got to speak about policy.

The president of Dillard U:

More at the link.

Well the answer’s pretty simple: Nobody in this administration wants to hear anything that contradicts their beliefs. But they’re always happy to mug for the cameras.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:42:05pm

Senator Dick Durban (Ill.) on the reason the Republicans want an investigation in the intelligence committees rather than any other way. (Hint: Secret, so they don’t have to admit to the public what’s going on.)

He also goes after Darrell Issa (R-CA-48) for his “special prosecutor” remarks, when Rep. Issa has led a long public witch hunt over President Obama and Hillary Clinton.

MSNBC 02 27 2017 durbin

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:46:30pm

re: #194 Targetpractice

Well the answer’s pretty simple: Nobody in this administration wants to hear anything that contradicts their beliefs. But they’re always happy to mug for the cameras.

It was just a cheap way to get some PoC in the Oval Office, so Trump can brag about his “black friends” at the HBCUs. It also explains why Conway was taking pix with her phone, because there was no scheduled meeting with Trump. She and Trump were probably having a chit-chat when Il Trumpino got into his head he should meet all those presidents.

I’ll betcha KellyAnne didn’t even get off the couch.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:48:03pm

re: #196 wheat-dogg

It was just a cheap way to get some PoC in the Oval Office, so Trump can brag about his “black friends” at the HBCUs. It also explains why Conway was taking pix with her phone, because there was no scheduled meeting with Trump. She and Trump were probably having a chit-chat when Il Trumpino got into his head he should meet all those presidents.

I’ll betcha KellyAnne didn’t even get off the couch.

snork

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:49:35pm

Another Adam Khan thread to ponder. This one ties Trump to the Russian crime syndicates, and Wilbur Ross, too.

Edited for accuracy. The Wilbur Ross thing is a separate thread from another source. He and the Russian guy who bought one of Trump’s homes for a grossly inflated price (Rybolovlev) are both officers of the Bank of Cyprus. Rybolovlev may have been using the property to launder money for the Russian mob.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:50:52pm

re: #194 Targetpractice

Well the answer’s pretty simple: Nobody in this administration wants to hear anything that contradicts their beliefs. But they’re always happy to mug for the cameras.

It pretty much looks like the administration wanted a photo op with the administrators of historically African-American colleges, so they could then turn round and spin them as “school choice” rather than the response to apartheid.

So much racism is oozing out of the White House now it is sickening. (Tomorrow’s paper is up on the Web here, unsurprisingly no coverage of Betsy DeVos’s statement.)

starherald.com

Photo of the massive pro-Trump rally in Scottsbluff today (six people). There was also a counter-protest. There is also a poll question up asking if one thinks profanity on a protest sign should be illegal (I answered “no” because I understand the I Amendment).

There is this hot take from a WW2 vet (pro-Trump):

Across the street, a group of people assembled to counter-protest the rally.

“If their voices get to be heard, so do ours,” said one of the teenagers in the anti-Trump crowd. They’re seniors from Scottsbluff High School and self-described members of the LGBT community. They said they’re worried about the president’s stances on immigration, his treatment of women, and roll-back to protections for transgender students.

They held up flags and signs saying “love trumps hate,” “equality,” “nasty woman,” and “F*** Trump.” They were unapologetic about their expression.

“Our president said things like that during the campaign trail,” one of the teens said.

Across the street, one of the Trump supporters shouted, trying to get their attention and pointing to a man wearing a World War II veteran hat.

“He fought for your right to hold up those signs,” the supporter shouts across the street.

“Thank you for your service, we respect your service, but this is not about you,” one of the teenagers shouts back. “It’s hard to hear that because Trump disrespected military service, but they’re saying we’re the ones who are wrong?”

Across the street, 92-year-old WWII Veteran George Shaaf shook his head in disbelief.

“To see something like that is terrible,” Shaaf said. “I fought against stuff like that, the stupidity … I fought for our beautiful country, but then come home and have to put up with something like this? Oh my …”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:54:32pm

“…Sources close to Ricketts say the nominee is committed to working through the complex requests from the Office of Government Ethics but added that a White House waiver may be required to keep Ricketts from withdrawing.

Waivers can be obtained if the White House wants to recuse an official from a “particular matter” if it would have a “direct and predictable effect on the employee’s own financial interests.”

The problem Ricketts has encountered is that family business holdings he is linked to are so numerous and widespread that many of the duties of deputy commerce secretary could intersect with them…”

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:57:26pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

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Translation: Ricketts, like much of the administration, sees government service as an opportunity to fatten his wallet.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:57:45pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

My Congresscritter Scott Tipton (F* - Cortez, CO) voted to not release the tax returns. He’s also in favor of H.R. 861 which would abolish the E.P.A.

* “F” for Fascist

Ditto to both with my congressman (Adrian Smith - R - NE3, the guy who says he only represents Republicans).

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 9:59:43pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

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Oh, good, a relative of my state governor.

I presume IOKIYAR, so separating himself from his financial interests will be no trouble (particularly with a letter of reference from Pete Ricketts).

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:01:30pm

Apparently some people here understand the I Amendment, so far the poll “should profanity on protest signs be illegal” is 100% “no” (either that, or I am the only person who voted).

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:05:30pm

If you recall some time ago, there was a birthday party where a bunch of people with trucks, Dixie Swastika flags, and shotguns drove through it terrorising the teens.

Those bigots were convicted today, but this television station sure got the headline wrong. It wasn’t the flags the teens were running from, it was the shotguns.

(see also the thread, where they get called out on the misleading headline and the television station doubles down = “well, we mentioned the shotguns in the article,” &c)

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teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:05:53pm

Chez Pazienza died alone in his car outside his residence this weekend, smoking heroin.

I have the same feeling I had when I found out Kurt Cobain blew his head off with a 20-gauge shotgun (with high amounts of heroin in his system) back in 1994. I was about to turn 13 when Kurt snuffed it, and it broke my heart.

Chez Pazienza broke my heart.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:07:23pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:11:26pm

re: #205 Anymouse

If you recall some time ago, there was a birthday party where a bunch of people with trucks, Dixie Swastika flags, and shotguns drove through it terrorising the teens.

Those bigots were convicted today, but this television station sure got the headline wrong. It wasn’t the flags the teens were running from, it was the shotguns.

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(see also the thread, where they get called out on the misleading headline and the television station doubles down = “well, we mentioned the shotguns in the article,” &c)

Good grief! They would probably say that Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss was hanged for defective shower heads.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:15:26pm

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel

Good grief! They would probably say that Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss was hanged for defective shower heads.

Yup. If you are the average reader and only read the headline, you might be convinced the judge sentenced them to jail over the flags. That does nothing but spin up unreconstructed Confederates into thinking the judge was ruling against their flag, rather than the shotguns and death threats.

And considering the Georgia TV station was called out on it and doubled down, you might also get the impression that was its intent.

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Scout  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:18:50pm

The Google doodle today, at least for Google Japan, is about this fellow:

Abdul Sattar Edhi

I had never heard of him, but he seems like a great man.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:21:05pm

re: #210 Scout

The Google doodle today, at least for Google Japan, is about this fellow:

Abdul Sattar Edhi

I had never heard of him, but he seems like a great man.

He’s the doodle for the USA as well.

Reading up on him he does seem like a compassionate person.

I suspect the doodle for March 1 will be our state’s 150th anniversary.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:22:24pm

re: #210 Scout

The Google doodle today, at least for Google Japan, is about this fellow:

Abdul Sattar Edhi

I had never heard of him, but he seems like a great man.

One of the reasons I love LGF: I get more educated. And, to paraphrase Edhi, I hope I become more human.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:25:16pm

re: #212 retired cynic

One of the reasons I love LGF: I get more educated. And, to paraphrase Edhi, I hope I become more human.

Indeed.
aljazeera.com

More at the link:

Abdul Sattar Edhi founded the world’s largest volunteer ambulance network in Pakistan , the Edhi Foundation.

Unlike wealthy individuals that fund charities in their names, Edhi dedicated his life to the poor from the age of 20, when he himself was penniless in Karachi .

The reach of Edhi’s foundation grew internationally, and in 2015 the organisation raised $100,000 in aid relief for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

(I’m guessing the year in that line is a typo and should read 2005)

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Moebym  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:29:08pm
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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:35:59pm

en.wikiquote.org

Another quote by Mr. Edhi:

My mission is to love human beings. … Each day is the best day of my life.

(to Reuters in 2013)

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:39:07pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:39:50pm

re: #207 Shiplord Kirel

Here’s the details about Ross’ connections to Putin:

theguardian.com

All the interconnections are there to see, if Congressional Republicans were willing to look. I’m sure some of those connections would lead to sitting members of Congress, though. Putin & Co. have done a very good job buying into the US government.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:41:38pm

re: #217 wheat-dogg

Here’s the details about Ross’ connections to Putin:

theguardian.com

All the interconnections are there to see, if Congressional Republicans were willing to look. I’m sure some of those connections would lead to sitting members of Congress, though. Putin & Co. have done a very good job buying into the US government.

Remember, though, the GOP still insists the Russians did not compromise them nor hack their computers (despite security firms’ assertions to the contrary).

Nothing to see here, gotta get back to destroying the safety net.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:45:10pm

re: #218 Anymouse

Remember, though, the GOP still insists the Russians did not compromise them nor hack their computers (despite security firms’ assertions to the contrary).

Nothing to see here, gotta get back to destroying the safety net.

Unraveling the Russian connections to Trump, et alia, will take years. By that time, the GOP will have achieved their draconian plan to enrich the 1% and impoverish the rest of us.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:46:13pm
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Kragar  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:49:44pm
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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:50:20pm

Trump-backing town angry after ICE arrests “their” Mexican:
rawstory.com

West Frankfort, Illinois, overwhelmingly voted for President Donald Trump last fall, but now some residents are upset after the Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested and detained a beloved local Mexican restaurant owner.

The New York Times reports that ICE last week detained Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco, the owner of the La Fiesta restaurant in the town of 8,000 people located in southern Illinois.

While residents in the town said that they were still supportive of the president’s moves to deport undocumented immigrants, they told the Times that the president should make more exceptions for people like Pacheco, who have not only been exemplary local businessmen, but also pillars of the community who take part in local charity events.

(more at Raw Story)

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:50:34pm

re: #221 Kragar

I saw that earlier, and hope she wasn’t badly hurt.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:51:25pm

re: #223 retired cynic

I saw that earlier, and hope she wasn’t badly hurt.

I don’t see in the video why the cop attacked her in the first place.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:52:19pm

re: #224 Anymouse

I gather he was irritated, poor fellow.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 10:57:21pm

theatlantic.com

An article on what CBP can do with your personal electronics at the “border.” They note that CBP is not allowed to keep passwords or credentials, but when entering information into computers they have the ability to enter your passwords to save as well.

Bottom line here is to change passwords as soon as you can after going through a “border” checkpoint if they seize your electronics.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 27, 2017 • 11:22:47pm

Here’s one for the Six Degrees of Separation department. I am connected to Alok Madasani, the Indian guy who survived the Plate, KS, shooting.

Me —> My daughter —> one of her best friends —> who dated Alok for a while

I have also met my daughter’s friend several times, so that reduces the number of degrees.

Also, one of my cousins once-removed lives in Olathe. But he doesn’t know any of the people involved personally.

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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 11:27:53pm

re: #227 wheat-dogg

Here’s one for the Six Degrees of Separation department. I am connected to Alok Madasani, the Indian guy who survived the Plate, KS, shooting.

Me —> My daughter —> one of her best friends —> who dated Alok for a while

I have also met my daughter’s friend several times, so that reduces the number of degrees.

Also, one of my cousins once-removed lives in Olathe. But he doesn’t know any of the people involved personally.

Hmm.

I never understood that “six degrees of separation” thing: I hardly know anyone. I suppose I could go with me>Charles Johnson (via his Website)>famous musicians.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 27, 2017 • 11:38:47pm

Hundreds of Speaker Paul Ryan’s constituents held a town hall meeting without him

KENOSHA - Lining up behind microphones Sunday evening, a few hundred of Rep. Paul Ryan’s constituents directed their wrath and disapproval toward an empty chair.

“It says a lot to me that he’s not here,” said Lee Hansen of Racine, who served in the 82nd Airborne in the 1970s. “Maybe we should repeal and replace Paul Ryan.”

Forward Kenosha organizers scheduled the town hall meeting Sunday evening at a union hall to give residents of the 1st Congressional District a way to get their thoughts and opinions to the Janesville Republican.

Julia Kozel, a Forward Kenosha board member, said Ryan was invited to the event but didn’t respond. She said she found out he wasn’t coming through a story in the Kenosha News a few days earlier.

“I don’t think he appreciates hearing things contrary to his ideology,” said Kozel.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 27, 2017 • 11:42:01pm
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Anymouse  Feb 27, 2017 • 11:55:42pm

re: #229 Amory Blaine

My representative hasn’t held town halls during his tenure, only telephonic ones. That is due more to the low population density/vast area of my district rather than avoiding constituents.

That said, it’s awfully convenient for him to screen out calls except those which match his ideology - and it’s much easier to simply ban calls by telephone number from problematic constituents (like me).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:06:41am

re: #153 Scottish Dragon

The Germans are not screwing around with their Carnival political themed floats this year…

Seriously NSFW
spiegel.de

Karneval dates back to a time when there was no freedom of speech or free press in Germany, and the only time you were allowed to vent your opinions about the ruling (often occupying) powers was during the week leading up to Lent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:09:54am

re: #205 Anymouse

If you recall some time ago, there was a birthday party where a bunch of people with trucks, Dixie Swastika flags, and shotguns drove through it terrorising the teens.

Those bigots were convicted today, but this television station sure got the headline wrong. It wasn’t the flags the teens were running from, it was the shotguns.

(see also the thread, where they get called out on the misleading headline and the television station doubles down = “well, we mentioned the shotguns in the article,” &c)

That was, of course, most intentional. But again, this is the kind of news that is not meant to inform, it is meant to outrage.

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teleskiguy  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:11:23am
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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:19:20am

At last night’s village board meeting, before the meeting started, I mentioned to our village attorney that I would never make a lawyer joke again. (That was in reference to the lawyers that saddled up and headed to airports across the country to defend civil rights.)

He thought that the effort put out by attorneys, law clerks, students, &c was amazing.

I also noted that my wife and I travel with our passports now wherever we go (though getting stopped here by CBP seems remote, and our sheriff’s department doesn’t have the manpower to do that sort of thing). The other trustees were taken aback by that statement - I pointed out that with a foreign-sounding name, olive (wrong) skin colour, and not a religious person nor a fan of the present president, I really can’t take any chances.

They thought about that (though I don’t know what sort of conclusion they came to). We had a bit of discussion about birthright citizenship as well - considering my father’s parents were “illegal immigrants” that has a direct bearing on me.

The attorney noted that anyone trying to pass an ex-post facto law would find that law immediately in the courts. I said “sure, but what happens in the years it would take to fight it?”

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:35:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:37:18am

re: #236 Anymouse

It’s more an attack on the selfishness and fear that poisons humanity, but sure, it can be about you if you want.

There are people who go out of their way to find perceived slights against them.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:39:59am

Nigerian software engineer coming to the United States was stopped by CBP and made to “prove he is” - it would appear that questions they asked him were compared to an entry in Wikipedia and since his answers were not exactly what Wikipedia appeared to be to uneducated CBP agents, they harassed and held him up.

(See also the thread that follows)

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:47:58am

The Nigerian fellow isn’t the only one; an Australian software engineer entering the country was also given a computer science test from a CBP agent uneducated in computer science.

news.com.au

“‘I’ve got a problem, I’m trying to write a computer program, can you help me?’”

Thornton said he was so surprised he didn’t know what to think.

“I was a little bit taken aback, because I thought I was going to get straight in.

“He started to read off his computer, and I got the feeling he was trying to trick me. I just wanted to get into the US, so I said: ‘Of course’.”

He said the officer appeared to be mid to senior level, and there’s no chance the conversation would have been overheard by anyone else in line.

For the next few minutes, he was forced to prove his worth — even given a pen and paper to record his answers.

“He administered a literal computer science test. It wasn’t a savant-level one like you hear of at Google, but it was definitely a test.

“The vibe I got was weird. He asked me a question, then asked me a follow-up question to prove I wasn’t lying.

“Do they not allow bad software engineers into the United States?” Thornton joked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:54:44am

re: #239 Anymouse

The Nigerian fellow isn’t the only one; an Australian software engineer entering the country was also given a computer science test from a CBP agent uneducated in computer science.

news.com.au

There is a deeper strategy behind this: namely to send a message that it is unpleasant to enter the US, why not try your luck somewhere else?

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:57:24am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a deeper strategy behind this: namely to send a message that it is unpleasant to enter the US, why not try your luck somewhere else?

So what happens when my wife and I go to Canada later in the year? Are they going to ask her about software engineering, the Dewey Decimal System, or both?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:59:44am

re: #241 Anymouse

So what happens when my wife and I go to Canada later in the year? Are they going to ask her about software engineering, the Dewey Decimal System, or both?

They just want you to leave and not come back. That simple.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:05:02am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just want you to leave and not come back. That simple.

Being a Democrat, I wouldn’t be surprised now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:09:43am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just want you to leave and not come back. That simple.

The fact that you would want to leave in first place makes you suspect.

I don’t even wanna think about what would happen with me if I went back.

Although getting in on my last trip (last spring) was quick and easy.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:31:17am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The fact that you would want to leave in first place makes you suspect.

I don’t even wanna think about what would happen with me if I went back.

Although getting in on my last trip (last spring) was quick and easy.

I’m wondering about that too. Leaving for Canada last year from Montana and returning by car fifteen hundred miles from where I left the USA in Michigan was no problem - now I wonder what would happen trying to get back across the same Saskatchewan-Montana border crossing we usually use.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:35:19am

For the II Amendment guy who needs to have everything:
mortarinvestments.eu

Yes, you can buy a T-72 tank, for the low price of $50,000. I imagine shipping is pretty high though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:36:42am

re: #246 Anymouse

For the II Amendment guy who needs to have everything:
mortarinvestments.eu

Yes, you can buy a T-72 tank, for the low price of $50,000. I imagine shipping is pretty high though.

I don’t wanna own one, but I would love the chance to ride around in a fast tank. I guess that can be arranged relatively cheaply in parts of Eastern Europe…

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:37:28am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t wanna own one, but I would love the chance to ride around in a fast tank. I guess that can be arranged relatively cheaply in parts of Eastern Europe…

And to make sure your neighbourhood arms race is complete, they also sell tank destroyers on the same Website.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:44:19am

re: #236 Anymouse

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The author’s first book ended up on the NYT bestseller list and was adapted into a movie. Doesn’t sound like “low selling” to me.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:46:40am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s more an attack on the selfishness and fear that poisons humanity, but sure, it can be about you if you want.

There are people who go out of their way to find perceived slights against them.

Trump is terribly insecure, but also very self-centered, so anything that even remotely reminds Trump of Trump must be about Trump and therefore “failing” or “bad,” and the source must be “weak” or “low ——”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:46:49am

re: #248 Anymouse

And to make sure your neighbourhood arms race is complete, they also sell tank destroyers on the same Website.

Actually, TD’s are lighter and faster, I would love to race around in an an M18 Hellcat

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 1:54:32am

re: #250 wheat-dogg

Trump is terribly insecure, but also very self-centered, so anything that even remotely reminds Trump of Trump must be about Trump and therefore “failing” or “bad,” and the source must be “weak” or “low ——”.

That’s why pokes at his power (President Bannon, the fact he’s a hundredaire, &c) are important.

The more he focuses on Twitter the less damage he can do elsewhere (and though I hate to say it, it might drive him round the bend).

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Alyosha  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:09:27am

re: #236 Anymouse

re: #249 wheat-dogg

Self-promoting BS. It’s funny but not real.

If that sounds shortish, down to five cigarettes a day; hope to quit by the middle of March :)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:17:31am

re: #253 Alyosha

Self-promoting BS. It’s funny but not real.

If that sounds shortish, down to five cigarettes a day; hope to quit by the middle of March :)

Ah, got it. I fell for another fake tweet.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:20:53am

For you computer science fans here, a BBC podcast about Grace Hopper and the development of compilers.

bbc.co.uk

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:26:03am

re: #254 wheat-dogg

Ah, got it. I fell for another fake tweet.

Like all the ones from Jack Dorsey saying he will oust hate-mongers and such from Twitter?

Last time I checked, people like David Duke still have Twitter accounts. Perhaps @jack is a fake account (or Twitter’s terms-of-service are fake).

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:27:42am

Trump: 4.9% of the entire US population was murdered in 2015:

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CarolJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:32:45am

re: #17 wheat-dogg

Hatch Act allows her to do so . If she’s covered by a union, tell her to talk to them. As long as she does not speak in a way that implies that she’s speaking for the Department in any capacity, she’s fine.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:34:21am

re: #256 Anymouse

Like all the ones from Jack Dorsey saying he will oust hate-mongers and such from Twitter?

Last time I checked, people like David Duke still have Twitter accounts. Perhaps @jack is a fake account (or Twitter’s terms-of-service are fake).

He will automatically suspend you if call someone a bad word like “asshole”.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:38:20am

re: #6 Belafon

Something to look for: My sister told my dad that she’s been told that, as s DoD employee, since Trump has applied for reelection she cannot speak out against him. She says it came down as an official guideline. We’ll have to see if it gets leaked.

As long as she’s not in a restricted position, like at DIA or NSA, she’s permitted to make political statements as long as it’s not done in her official capacity.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:38:41am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

He will automatically suspend you if call someone a bad word like “asshole”.

But if you’re a Nazi calling for genocide, that’s fine.

Another reason I won’t go near the tyre fire called Twitter and create an account.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:45:35am

Libertarians are concerned with the important issues here in Virginia and our gubernatorial race:

Facebook Post

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:48:17am

re: #262 Timothy Watson

Libertarians are concerned with the important issues here in Virginia and our gubernatorial race:

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Not sure what that Facebook post means in reference to the Libertarian Party and Virginia.

I was pleased to hear my wife say last night she’d finally heaved overboard the last of her Libertarian beliefs. (It might be because gutting veterans benefits directly affects us, or maybe she finally settled on the idea that libertarianism is just a failed idea. I don’t really want to poke her on that.)

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:51:52am

Derp of the first order from the Washington Post.
Trump’s Speech Should Seek Bipartisanship and Dare Democrats to Refuse It

Comments are overwhelmingly of the “FU” variety, though this one stands out:

“I’m disappointed the Post didn’t include what planet Mr. Thiessen is from as part of his bio.”

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:58:37am

re: #263 Anymouse

Not sure what that Facebook post means in reference to the Libertarian Party and Virginia.

I was pleased to hear my wife say last night she’d finally heaved overboard the last of her Libertarian beliefs. (It might be because gutting veterans benefits directly affects us, or maybe she finally settled on the idea that libertarianism is just a failed idea. I don’t really want to poke her on that.)

It’s a bunch of Libertarians talking about how great it is that five of the six candidates for Governor support some kind of marijuana legalization/decriminalization.

Like that’s the most important topic in the world.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 2:59:33am

John McCain complaining Donald Trump’s likely Defense Department budget increase is not enough, because McCain never met a DOD budget that was big enough for him:

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:00:41am

re: #265 Timothy Watson

It’s a bunch of Libertarians talking about how great it is that five of the six candidates for Governor support some kind of marijuana legalization/decriminalization.

Like that’s the most important topic in the world.

Well, with our overcrowded prisons here in Nebraska, I suspect decriminalising maryjane would help out our prison population/state budget.

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CarolJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:02:10am

Link About Hatch Act From Cornell University

I swear, this administration will cure American ignorance about civics permanently.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:10:42am

re: #268 CarolJ

Link About Hatch Act From Cornell University

I swear, this administration will cure American ignorance about civics permanently.

This is pretty straightforward stuff.

The Hatch Act basically boils down to:

a) You may not give the appearance as a government representative you affirm or oppose a candidate or political position
b) As a private citizen you are allowed the same political engagement as everyone else.

Thus, I cannot represent myself as a village board member and state I oppose a policy of the GOP or Mr. Trump. (The assumption would be the village board holds that position.)

I can oppose policies of the GOP or Mr. Trump as a private citizen, as long as I don’t represent my position as that of the village board (or the Navy, since technically I am still part of the inactive reserve).

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:12:58am

Another BBC podcast: how the iPhone got to be the iPhone. Turns out, the ultimate creator of the iPhone was not Steve Jobs and Apple, but national governments.

bbc.co.uk

Good material to use against libertarians who argue private enterprise can do everything, and we don’t need government.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:15:24am

re: #269 Anymouse

This is pretty straightforward stuff.

The Hatch Act basically boils down to:

a) You may not give the appearance as a government representative you affirm or oppose a candidate or political position
b) As a private citizen you are allowed the same political engagement as everyone else.

Thus, I cannot represent myself as a village board member and state I oppose a policy of the GOP or Mr. Trump. (The assumption would be the village board holds that position.)

I can oppose policies of the GOP or Mr. Trump as a private citizen, as long as I don’t represent my position as that of the village board (or the Navy, since technically I am still part of the inactive reserve).

TBH I believe the Hatch Act only applies to federal employees, not to state or local employees or elected officials. There may be separate laws regulating your public statements about a given candidate, however.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:18:50am

re: #264 Anymouse

Derp of the first order from the Washington Post.
Trump’s Speech Should Seek Bipartisanship and Dare Democrats to Refuse It

Comments are overwhelmingly of the “FU” variety, though this one stands out:

For over a week now, the NYT has brought us the plight of the “economic anxiety” crowd in the face of liberal indifference. Now WaPo is bringing us fantasies about a Trump who can give a speech about America where he can string together enough sentences coherently as to paint a positive message.

I think we’ve nailed down why people have so little faith in the media these days.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:21:43am

re: #270 wheat-dogg

Another BBC podcast: how the iPhone got to be the iPhone. Turns out, the ultimate creator of the iPhone was not Steve Jobs and Apple, but national governments.

bbc.co.uk

Good material to use against libertarians who argue private enterprise can do everything, and we don’t need government.

That’s a shame: It will not play on my computer.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:22:46am

re: #273 Anymouse

That’s a shame: It will not play on my computer.

Can you download it?

BBC iPlayer is fussy about location.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:23:38am

CNN Money has done a side-by-side analysis of Trump’s tweets and the cable TV reports that prompted them.

money.cnn.com

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:32:06am

re: #274 wheat-dogg

Can you download it?

BBC iPlayer is fussy about location.

Nebraska doesn’t exist to the BBC.

I was once interviewed by the BBC (really). They asked me if I could get to a radio studio so they could set up the interview (answer: no, nearest one they wanted me to go to was 120 miles away). They wound up interviewing me over my telephone.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:34:12am

re: #276 Anymouse

Nebraska doesn’t exist to the BBC.

I was once interviewed by the BBC (really). They asked me if I could get to a radio studio so they could set up the interview (answer: no, nearest one they wanted me to go to was 120 miles away). They wound up interviewing me over my telephone.

I got it to play now. I’m not sure what went wrong. Maybe my cat was lying on my telephone cable or something.

I knew the things they talked about invented by governments (such as LCDs and Arpanet). To me it was old news, but I passed it along to a number of other people through E-mail.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:35:53am

Message from my phone company saying they are about to down my Internet service for monthly maintenance - that means I need to log off before they do it for me.

See y’all in a day or two (sometimes it takes them as long as a week when they do this).

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:41:31am

re: #277 Anymouse

I got it to play now. I’m not sure what went wrong. Maybe my cat was lying on my telephone cable or something.

I knew the things they talked about invented by governments (such as LCDs and Arpanet). To me it was old news, but I passed it along to a number of other people through E-mail.

Another podcast is about the shipping container. The entrepreneur who first starting using them got a big boost during the Vietnam War, because the military needed a cost-effective way to move materiel across the Pacific. The DoD helped develop the electronic systems necessary to track items. After the containers were emptied, rather than deadhead them back to the States, he realized he could ship goods from Japan to the States and make money in both directions. Once other shipping companies realized the efficiencies of the shipping container system, they all adopted it after years of resistance.

Some of the podcasts tell me stuff I already know, but others like this one were real eye-openers.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:48:30am

re: #276 Anymouse

Nebraska doesn’t exist to the BBC.

I was once interviewed by the BBC (really). They asked me if I could get to a radio studio so they could set up the interview (answer: no, nearest one they wanted me to go to was 120 miles away). They wound up interviewing me over my telephone.

Use a British proxy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 3:58:38am

re: #276 Anymouse

Nebraska doesn’t exist to the BBC.

I was once interviewed by the BBC (really). They asked me if I could get to a radio studio so they could set up the interview (answer: no, nearest one they wanted me to go to was 120 miles away). They wound up interviewing me over my telephone.

Yet another thing we have in common. I have been contacted by the BBC more than once as follow-up to a comment I made on a BBC story.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:13:16am
Then they happened upon the outdoor birthday party for than 8-year-old African-American child at his grandmother’s house in Douglasville. The confrontation that ensued, and its aftermath, culminated Monday with lengthy prison sentences for Torres and Norton.

As the defendants wept uncontrollably, Superior Court Judge William McClain castigated Norton, 25, and Torres, 26, for perpetrating what he called a hate crime. He sentenced Torres to 20 years, with 13 to serve in prison; Norton was given 15 years, with six to serve. Upon their release, McClain banished them from Douglas County.”

Sweet.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:13:52am

Look at this scum.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:16:16am

re: #283 Nyet

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Look at this scum.

That is not at all because he is repentant, he is just realizing that he is going get tossed into a prison for a long time with a lot of black people.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:16:58am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is not at all because he is repentant, he is just realizing that he is going get tossed into a prison for a long time with a lot of black people.

“But but but Trump is Presnit now, how could it happen!”

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Alyosha  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:22:34am

re: #283 Nyet

‘How could this happen to meeee?!’

Me: More! I am not yet sated!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:26:53am

re: #286 Alyosha

When you get a combined 35 years of prison time for crashing a black child’s b-day party with confederate flags & threatening to kill people

I expect this is going to be spun as “government repressing free speech and exercise of 2nd Amendment rights”

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William Lewis  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:27:28am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is not at all because he is repentant, he is just realizing that he is going get tossed into a prison for a long time with a lot of black people.

And he’ll never be able to legally own a gun again - that’s probably even worse to the scumbucket.

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Alyosha  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:29:59am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I expect this is going to be spun as “government repressing free speech and exercise of 2nd Amendment rights”

According to free-speech absolutists, absent guns, this was appropriate.
Actually, guns are free expression too so…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:31:51am

re: #236 Anymouse

That’s a fake Trump tweet btw, created by Marion to promote his “low selling” novel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:33:13am

re: #241 Anymouse

So what happens when my wife and I go to Canada later in the year? Are they going to ask her about software engineering, the Dewey Decimal System, or both?

You’re white. Welcome home.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:35:35am

re: #250 wheat-dogg

Trump is terribly insecure, but also very self-centered, so anything that even remotely reminds Trump of Trump must be about Trump and therefore “failing” or “bad,” and the source must be “weak” or “low ——”.

And the song “You’re so vain” instantly pops into mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:37:26am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

That’s a fake Trump tweet btw, created by Marion to promote his “low selling” novel.

Must be careful of such things, but still, remember how upset DT was with Meryl Streep, even though she never mentioned him by name?

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:41:42am

Lizards on twitter plz report this tweet.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:42:37am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Must be careful of such things, but still, remember how upset DT was with Meryl Streep, even though she never mentioned him by name?

He was probably pissed she didn’t use his name at all. I think the media should just observe one day of reporting on Trump without using his name once. It would drive him nuts.

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dharmamark  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:42:44am

re: #294 Nyet

done

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:51:02am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:53:55am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:55:49am

It’s going to be a train wreck tonight. I don’t want to watch it, but I probably will, here with you all. How can you not watch a train wreck, especially when you’re tied to the tracks?

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 4:59:16am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

It’s going to be a train wreck tonight. I don’t want to watch it, but I probably will, here with you all. How can you not watch a train wreck, especially when you’re tied to the tracks?

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I won’t watch it, even though I’ll be out of class at that time. I figure catching the comments here will be fine. Listening to Trump speak just pains me no end. His voice, the finger gestures and arm waves, aagh!! An animatronic robot would be easier to watch.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:00:48am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:02:20am

re: #300 wheat-dogg

I won’t watch it, even though I’ll be out of class at that time. I figure catching the comments here will be fine. Listening to Trump speak just pains me no end. His voice, the finger gestures and arm waves, aagh!! An animatronic robot would be easier to watch.

His voice, that nasal whine, is just horrific to listen to. Bernie Sanders also had an irritating nasal whine but at least he was capable of uttering complete sentences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:02:52am

re: #303 Nyet

“German Carnival floats show Trump no mercy”

“Lame, low-attendance carnival parades!”

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:05:54am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

His voice, that nasal whine, is just horrific to listen to. Bernie Sanders also had an irritating nasal whine but at least he was capable of uttering complete sentences.

Prissy Trump is easier to listen to, in fact, because it’s more true to life. If teenage Trump had the same vocal mannerisms as old man Trump, his junior high school days must have been rough on him.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:06:22am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This needs to be the story. The GOP is actively working to cover up Trump’s unethical behavior. Democrats need to hammer the GOP for this every chance they get. Make it into the story along with Trump’s ties to Russia.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:09:28am

re: #306 wheat-dogg

Prissy Trump is easier to listen to, in fact, because it’s more true to life. If teenage Trump had the same vocal mannerisms as old man Trump, his junior high school days must have been rough on him.

The whining, nasal Northern East Coast accent is annoying in and of itself, but tolerable if the person speaking can express coherent thoughts (Bernie Sanders). Trump with his whining nasal delivery and incoherent gibberish is a fucking shitshow.

He also can’t read a teleprompter for shit. This is either because he is dyslexic (there is so much evidence to support this) or and he is too vain to wear glasses.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:10:01am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

It’s going to be a train wreck tonight. I don’t want to watch it, but I probably will, here with you all. How can you not watch a train wreck, especially when you’re tied to the tracks?

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I really want someone to yell “you lie!” during the speech.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:12:43am

This gone be good.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:15:05am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Trump grades himself: A for achievement, C/C+ for messaging because “I or my people” 👀 haven’t explained well enough

I’m old enough to remember the GOP mocking Obama for months for giving himself a “solid B+”.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:20:32am

Tiny Trump

Instagram

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:20:50am

The GOP would’ve lost their shit if somebody did this in the Obama administration:

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:21:23am

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

I really want someone to yell “you lie!” during the speech.

WRONG!
YOU’RE THE PUPPET!

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:22:22am

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

Not only are Trump’s inner circle deranged, they’re uncouth and un-civilized as well.

Gaah.

Because the Commander in Chief is uncouth and uncivilized. No surprises that his entourage would follow suit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:24:24am

I keep thinking up captions for Kellyanne on the sofa picture but they’re all NSFW.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:28:21am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

I keep thinking up captions for Kellyanne on the sofa picture but they’re all NSFW.

I’ve had several ideas for Photoshops of her kneeling, but all are NSFW.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:28:34am

re: #134 Moebym

How about no?

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Is Greta trying to be funny? Democrats shouldn’t even attend the SOTU at all. Why sit down to listen to lies being repeated by Trump for two hours straight? His Presidency is not normal and shouldn’t not be treated as such.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:30:23am
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John Hughes  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:31:36am

re: #35 teleskiguy

What a wimp, why not post the one with Trump and Liberty?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:33:21am

re: #320 John Hughes

What a wimp, why not post the one with Trump and Liberty?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:34:40am
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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:39:26am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

The March unemployment rates — assuming Trump doesn’t cook them — should be interesting to see.

Antagonizing tourists is a very bad idea, because once people get in their heads a place is unwelcoming, they will continue to avoid it for years. The Trump Chill will last long after he leaves office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:42:28am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

The layoffs will be massive. U.S. tourism industry employs over 6 milllion people directly, more than double that indirectly.

and when word gets out about how boorish the Customs and Immigration people are with people visiting the US, they will be less interested.

Although a weak dollar might help balance that out…

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:42:51am

Bille Nye vs. Tucker Carlson:

“You asked how long it would be before, what the climate would be like if humans weren’t involved right now,” Nye asked. “Is that Right?”

“Yes,” Tucker answered. “That is exactly right. At what point would it have changed. And I am saying you don;t actually know because it is unknowable. So why aren’t you open to question.”

“This is how long it takes you to interrupt me,” Nye replied holding up a phone with a six-second timer on it. “It takes you quite a bit less than six seconds.”

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:46:35am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

This gone be good.

Paul Ryan might be waking up to the fact that GOP chances might be dimmed in the next election.

Also, if VP Pence is involved as well, that mean Ryan gets to be President. (He’s calculating enough to include his chances.)

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:47:44am

re: #325 Belafon

I wish intelligent people like Bill Nye wouldn’t subject themselves to ignoramuses like Tuck Tuck. It’s quite unnecessary and achieves nothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:48:26am

re: #326 Anymouse

Paul Ryan might be waking up to the fact that GOP chances might be dimmed in the next election.

Also, if VP Pence is involved as well, that mean Ryan gets to be President. (He’s calculating enough to include his chances.)

He is weighing his options: If it looks like the GOP was actively involved in investigating Trump, it will look better when it inevitably blows up into something so egregious and foul-smelling that they can no longer ignore or gloss over it.

And that is most likely just a matter of time.

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jeffreyw  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:48:37am

Imgur
Good morning!

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:51:18am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is weighing his options: If it looks like the GOP was actively involved in investigating Trump, it will look better when it inevitably blows up into something so egregious and foul-smelling that they can no longer ignore or gloss over it.

And that is most likely just a matter of time.

The pieces are slowly being assembled by different journalists.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:52:00am

Morning all. Some catching up from yesterday, the bill in NC to allow parents to put their kids back in a football game if a concussion is suspected, without a doctors clearance..

How fucking dense can people be? Unfu; no totally believable. Simply put, as a football coach, the worst thing about High School Football is the parents. To allow any parent power over the personel on the field(coaches or medical staff) is asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve.

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:52:03am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is weighing his options: If it looks like the GOP was actively involved in investigating Trump, it will look better when it inevitably blows up into something so egregious and foul-smelling that they can no longer ignore or gloss over it.

And that is most likely just a matter of time.

That was pretty much what got President Nixon: When things blew up so badly that the GOP was afraid of their chances in the next election. They stepped in and asked Nixon to step aside.

In Trump’s case, I don’t see him stepping aside. If they asked him, he would go bananas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:52:49am

re: #330 wheat-dogg

The pieces are slowly being assembled by different journalists.

and a few low-life leakers within the government

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:53:27am

re: #332 Anymouse

That was pretty much what got President Nixon: When things blew up so badly that the GOP was afraid of their chances in the next election. They stepped in and asked Nixon to step aside.

In Trump’s case, I don’t see him stepping aside. If they asked him, he would go bananas.

He would declare the people to be the enemy of the people…

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 5:56:35am

re: #327 Patricia Kayden

I wish intelligent people like Bill Nye wouldn’t subject themselves to ignoramuses like Tuck Tuck. It’s quite unnecessary and achieves nothing.

You can’t ignore the trolls, especially those with a TV show.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:00:44am

re: #270 wheat-dogg

Another BBC podcast: how the iPhone got to be the iPhone. Turns out, the ultimate creator of the iPhone was not Steve Jobs and Apple, but national governments.

bbc.co.uk

Good material to use against libertarians who argue private enterprise can do everything, and we don’t need government.

I usually use the Transcontinental Railroad for round 1 of that argument; after knocking down the “that was then and this is now” arguments, I follow up with a list of the inventions and discoveries that came out of the moonshot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:02:16am

re: #331 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Morning all. Some catching up from yesterday, the bill in NC to allow parents to put their kids back in a football game if a concussion is suspected, without a doctors clearance..

How fucking dense can people be? Unfu; no totally believable. Simply put, as a football coach, the worst thing about High School Football is the parents. To allow any parent power over the personel on the field(coaches or medical staff) is asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve.

The thinking behind (cannot call it logic) is that

1) Football is a God-Given American Sport and expression of His Divine Will
2) Parents know better what is good for their kid than some doctor
3) How else is my kid gonna get into to college without a football scholarship?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:05:15am

Jeezes
Trump: Some say “I’ve done more than anybody in 100 days … I’ve saved billions & billions … I brought Ford back”

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Anymouse  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:05:23am

Wingnut-on-wingnut action:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:07:44am

FORD NEVER LEFT YOU DENSE SHIT GIBBON

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:08:20am

Greets and saluts from the resistance. NYC is gloriously sunny and it’s gonna get warm here again over the next two days. Tomorrow might see more record high temps, plus severe storms. Woo.

Meanwhile, tonight Trump makes his first address to a joint session of Congress, and it’s gonna be yuge. He’s going to tout all of his successes over the first month, and claim he’s done more in less time than anyone else in history.

That only rings true in alternative reality where passing no significant legislation counts as a huge achievement. Even with the GOP in control of both House and Senate, Trump’s not moved the dial on any legislation. That’s incompetence, not action - let alone historic action.

None of this matters to Trump supporters who will claim whatever Trump said is 100% true, even though Obama passed the ARRA of 2009 in the first 100 days (aka the stimulus package), that helped reduce the effects of the Great Recession. Of course, FDR enacted more legislation in his first 100 days, and more significant pieces of legislation during that time than anyone else:

That includes a few programs that are still around to this day like the TVA, but it included the Federal Emergency Relief Administration (FERA), Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA), National Industry Recovery Act that included the Public Works Admin and National Recovery Admin, and of course the TVA.

Note too that the TVA also enabled the Manhattan Project later during WWII, since it provided abundant electrical power that was critical to operating the enrichment equipment at Oak Ridge.

Trump? He’s pushed EOs that deprive people of rights, imposed higher costs on people seeking mortgages with PMI, and made it easier for coal mines to dump toxic materials into waterways. Woo.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:08:37am

re: #339 Anymouse

Wingnut-on-wingnut action:

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That should tell Laura something about Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:10:06am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That should tell Laura something about Trump.

It won’t. She has partaken of the Kool-Aid.

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Donkey With No Name  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:10:33am

So, yeah:

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:10:47am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:11:06am

re: #343 wheat-dogg

It won’t. She has partaken of the Kool-Aid.

Nah I think she’s a true believer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:11:36am

re: #345 lawhawk

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Yeah I just saw this. JFC

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:14:12am

re: #344 Donkey With No Name

So, yeah:

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That’s an interesting figure. I wouldn’t imagine that 73% of a population would be informed enough to even opine on NAFTA, much less say that’s good for the country.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:14:14am
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:14:24am

re: #343 wheat-dogg

It won’t. She has partaken of the Kool-Aid.

She and Matt Drudge helped make it.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:14:48am

re: #331 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

is asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve

Well played!

I agree, it’s absolutely nuts that parents can overturn a doctor’s ruling on concussions. With what we know about CTE and how researchers are seeing evidence of it starting at the HS level, any protection at this level is critical. Letting a parent override a doctor is unconscionable and threatens the kid’s life.

I get that a parent wants to see their kid play, especially if it’s the only way to get out of a crappy life situation and the kid’s really good at football, but you can’t and shouldn’t treat their brain so cavalierly.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:17:58am

re: #351 lawhawk

Well played!

I agree, it’s absolutely nuts that parents can overturn a doctor’s ruling on concussions. With what we know about CTE and how researchers are seeing evidence of it starting at the HS level, any protection at this level is critical. Letting a parent override a doctor is unconscionable and threatens the kid’s life.

I get that a parent wants to see their kid play, especially if it’s the only way to get out of a crappy life situation and the kid’s really good at football, but you can’t and shouldn’t treat their brain so cavalierly.

What is worse than the bolded above, is what we don’t know about CTE. It’s gambling away your child’s future for the slight chance they get a full ride or even astronomical odds that they can make a (short lived) career of it.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:18:30am

re: #350 Barefoot Grin

She and Matt Drudge helped make it.

Quite true. But during the campaign, you could see she became a fanatic, complete with the perhaps involuntary nazi-like arm gesture. She’ll be one of the rats who will choose to go down with the ship.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:19:08am

Happy My Weekend folks. To the lake I go to cut off from reality for a while. Looks to be a wild day out there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:21:04am

re: #353 wheat-dogg

Quite true. But during the campaign, you could see she became a fanatic, complete with the perhaps involuntary nazi-like arm gesture. She’ll be one of the rats who will choose to go down with the ship.

Right wing talk radio people like her, Lumpy, and Rushbo were among Trump’s staunchest supporters in the primary.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:22:40am
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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:24:52am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Right wing talk radio people like her, Lumpy, and Rushbo were among Trump’s staunchest supporters in the primary.

They all want a dictator, thinking he will give them everything they want. This seldom works out in real life.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:27:18am

re: #206 teleskiguy

Chez Pazienza died alone in his car outside his residence this weekend, smoking heroin.

I have the same feeling I had when I found out Kurt Cobain blew his head off with a 20-gauge shotgun (with high amounts of heroin in his system) back in 1994. I was about to turn 13 when Kurt snuffed it, and it broke my heart.

Chez Pazienza broke my heart.

No matter what the specific circumstances of his death were, he died of depression. It’s the cruellest disease I know of. I never got to know Chez, but I know he was hurting.

{{{}}}

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:27:31am

re: #357 wheat-dogg

They all want a dictator, thinking he will give them everything they want. This seldom works out in real life.

I’ve always wondering what the endgame is for people like that. What are their motivations? Are they true believers? Or is it just for the power, money, etc.?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:27:42am

re: #356 lawhawk

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No difference between Hillary and Trump right Susan? And to the idiotic bros who act like environmental issues are a “distraction”. FO.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:27:44am

re: #356 lawhawk

Establishing the rule of law and federalism? Isn’t that what the EPA and environmental regs already are, an application of the rule of law and federalism?

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:29:10am

re: #361 wheat-dogg

Of course they are, but that’s how they’re couching the rollback of environmental protections.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:29:23am

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge is counting words on CNBC:

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:29:36am

re: #206 teleskiguy

Chez Pazienza died alone in his car outside his residence this weekend, smoking heroin.

I have the same feeling I had when I found out Kurt Cobain blew his head off with a 20-gauge shotgun (with high amounts of heroin in his system) back in 1994. I was about to turn 13 when Kurt snuffed it, and it broke my heart.

Chez Pazienza broke my heart.

Fuck…..hadn’t head the cause of death yet. He mentioned several times on air (not recently however) that he had trouble writing due to what he seemed to be describing as depression. Fucking god damn it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:29:49am

We’re also cutting back on a lot of State department programs that do help people overseas too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:30:13am

re: #363 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge is counting words on CNBC:

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I get it Matt, you love Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:31:02am

re: #359 Timothy Watson

I’ve always wondering what the endgame is for people like that. What are their motivations? Are they true believers? Or is it just for the power, money, etc.?

I’m sure they couldn’t tell you themselves, other than some platitudes about making America strong and enforcing law and order. Mostly, they’re white conservatives and scared shitless that non-white, non-conservatives are taking over, and they’re circling the wagons around Trump, assuming he has their interests in mind.

In fact, he’d stiff them like he has everyone else.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:31:32am

re: #358 Sherlock Hound

No matter what the specific circumstances of his death were, he died of depression. It’s the cruellest disease I know of. I never got to know Chez, but I know he was hurting.

{{{}}}

Bob is doing a show today. I could barely explain to my wife without choking up, and this was a man I never met or spoke to. I can’t begin to imagine the strength it would take to do a show without your podcast partner so soon.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:33:53am

re: #363 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge is counting words on CNBC:

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Has Drudge been counting how many times Trump uses the words I, me and myself? I took one of Trump’s public talks — his hastily called presser, IIRC — and counted more than 450 self-references within an hour of speaking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:34:38am

re: #369 wheat-dogg

Has Drudge been counting how many times Trump uses the words I, me and myself? I took one of Trump’s public talks — his hastily called presser, IIRC — and counted more than 450 self-references within an hour of speaking.

I recall all those compilations of Obama’s self-references as proof of his “narcissism”.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:34:53am

re: #249 wheat-dogg

The author’s first book ended up on the NYT bestseller list and was adapted into a movie. Doesn’t sound like “low selling” to me.

And, you know that 45’s comment about the book being boring was pulled out of his butt, he doesn’t read, let alone read apocalyptic SciFi.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:37:35am

Touching tribute Bob Cesca published yesterday (likely already posted yesterday, but fuck it)

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:40:26am

That’s right folks. Trump who said that he’d come up with a super secret plan to defeat ISIS after talking with the generals is told by the generals, including his own pick in Mattis that the best way to defeat ISIS is to continue Obama’s tactics and strategy.

Yeah, how long before Trump: 1) takes credit for the strategy all along; 2) blames Obama if it doesn’t work out well because Trump’s own statements are being incorporated into ISIS propaganda on a daily basis undermining the military strategy on the ground; or 3) both.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:41:57am

re: #373 lawhawk

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That’s right folks. Trump who said that he’d come up with a super secret plan to defeat ISIS after talking with the generals is told by the generals, including his own pick in Mattis that the best way to defeat ISIS is to continue Obama’s tactics and strategy.

Yeah, how long before Trump: 1) takes credit for the strategy all along; 2) blames Obama if it doesn’t work out well because Trump’s own statements are being incorporated into ISIS propaganda on a daily basis undermining the military strategy on the ground; or 3) both.

This is just like how Nixon’s “secret plan” to end Vietnam ended up being the original plan that Nixon got sabotaged at the Paris Peace Talks.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:42:32am

re: #371 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, you know that 45’s comment about the book being boring was pulled out of his butt, he doesn’t read, let alone read apocalyptic SciFi.

Also, it’s a fake quote created by the author.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:44:50am

re: #294 Nyet

My very first report. I am no longer an innocent.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:47:19am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

“The most respected generals in decades” —- OMFG

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:48:12am

re: #377 Colère Tueur de Lapin

“The most respected generals in decades” —- OMFG

It’s always a stupid popularity contest to him.

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I cannot.  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:49:15am

re: #377 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Keep in mind that these generals are the same generals that he JUST said don’t know how to win…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:50:40am

re: #379 I cannot.

Keep in mind that these generals are the same generals that he JUST said don’t know how to win…

And the ones he disrespected by insisted he knew more than.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:51:01am

re: #294 Nyet

Lizards on twitter plz report this tweet.

Cultural revolutions don’t tend to turn out all that great.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:55:41am

Ah, the justification of destroying the EPA. Because someone claims anecdotes of EPA doing its job:

Junk Science purveyor Steve Milloy seems to ignore that pollutants in water flows through soils and drainage ditches to waterways where those pollutants mix, collect, and ultimately can affect water supplies that people use for drinking or industrial processes (unless they’re so toxic that even the companies can’t use it because they’re awful - see GM at Flint).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:57:33am

re: #382 lawhawk

Ah, the justification of destroying the EPA. Because someone claims anecdotes of EPA doing its job:

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Junk Science purveyor Steve Milloy seems to ignore that pollutants in water flows through soils and drainage ditches to waterways where those pollutants mix, collect, and ultimately can affect water supplies that people use for drinking or industrial processes (unless they’re so toxic that even the companies can’t use it because they’re awful - see GM at Flint).

EPA- abusive but DOD budget- fine. Typical right wing bullshit

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:57:59am

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Heh.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:58:50am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

It’s always a stupid popularity contest to him.

There was so much wrong with his answer to that question, it boggles the mind. He’s a complete idiot, just saying whatever comes into his pea-sized brain.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 6:59:31am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:00:13am

Interesting tweetstorm…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:00:32am

re: #386 lawhawk

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Yep, we have one party that really isn’t interested in infrastructure at all in this country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:05:44am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Yep, we have one party that really isn’t interested in infrastructure at all in this country.

Just wait until DT starts privatizing them…then their interest will be piqued.

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John Hughes  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:06:47am

re: #153 Scottish Dragon

The Germans are not screwing around with their Carnival political themed floats this year…

Seriously NSFW
spiegel.de

Not safe for work? The first thing I did this morning was show them around the office. Much hilarity was exhibited.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:09:39am

re: #371 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, you know that 45’s comment about the book being boring was pulled out of his butt, he doesn’t read, let alone read apocalyptic SciFi.

That’s a fake Tweet. Isaac Marion made it up to generate clicks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:21:42am

Welp that didn’t last long.

“We have seen no evidence so far,” Ryan says on alleged contact between Russia and Trump campaign

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:23:40am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Welp that didn’t last long.

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“We have seen no evidence so far,” Ryan says on alleged contact between Russia and Trump campaign

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That’s why you do an investgiation. Oh wait, you only investigate when it’s Dems involved. Really, Paul, you’re nothing but a spineless weasel who lies about his marathon times because you’re an insecure egomaniac.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:25:55am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Welp that didn’t last long.

Ryan got his answer: Trump will sign whatever health care bill Ryan gets to his desk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:28:00am

re: #394 Belafon

Ryan got his answer: Trump will sign whatever health care bill Ryan gets to his desk.

I think you nailed it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:30:14am

re: #394 Belafon

Ryan got his answer: Trump will sign whatever health care bill Ryan gets to his desk.

Yeah sounds right to me.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:30:21am

re: #385 wheat-dogg

There was so much wrong with his answer to that question, it boggles the mind. He’s a complete idiot, just saying whatever comes into his pea-sized brain.

“The journalists keep messing up my beautiful sentences that circle around to the beginning in circular beauty of journalism” of some such BS that 45 spewed.

No, 45, your sentences are incomplete thoughts without beginning or end and contain no discernible logic. It is truly embarrassing that he represents us on the international stage. As many others have mentioned, W. was not the most eloquent (HA!) speaker, but even he was not as cringe-inducing as 45’s blather.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:32:05am

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, after everyone pointed that our, I recalled that we had gone through the fakeness discussion previously. But, my point about him not reading is still accurate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:38:34am
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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:41:16am

re: #245 Anymouse

I’m wondering about that too. Leaving for Canada last year from Montana and returning by car fifteen hundred miles from where I left the USA in Michigan was no problem - now I wonder what would happen trying to get back across the same Saskatchewan-Montana border crossing we usually use.

I cross on a regular basis. Other than one guy being an asshole and asking if I couldn’t find an American to marry, it’s been business as usual. Don’t unnecessarily add to your worries.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:41:17am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

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No tweets condemning what happened in Kansas to those engineers too.

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Major Tom  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:42:58am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

The worst thing, god willing, will be that the ratings will be through the roof and Trump will claim credit as if it because everyone so desires to see him speak.

When, in reality, most are too terrified of what he will say not to watch.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:43:13am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

No tweets condemning what happened in Kansas to those engineers too.

No tweets condemning the attack on the mosque in Quebec.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:43:57am

re: #403 The Vicious Babushka

No tweets condemning the attack on the mosque in Quebec.

Yep.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:48:18am

hmmmmmmmmmmmm, paczki. Almost makes me miss the mitten.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:48:39am

re: #283 Nyet

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Look at this scum.

And she had the audacity to say “This isn’t me. This isn’t him.” I couldn’t believe it. I was thinking, it is EXACTLY who and what you are. I think they expected Trump to pardon them. Guess that didn’t work out so well for them. At least not yet.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:53:36am

re: #406 MsJ

And she had the audacity to say “This isn’t me. This isn’t him.” I couldn’t believe it. I was thinking, it is EXACTLY who and what you are. I think they expected Trump to pardon them. Guess that didn’t work out so well for them. At least not yet.

What the hell were they thinking anyhow? What kind of pathetic asshole wrecks a child’s birthday party like that based on their hate?

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:54:22am

Heh.

Considering that Trump is often the biggest complainer about leaks, what are the odds he’s the one leaking - or should I say his alter egos Bannon and John Miller? Even odds there.

Bannon could be leaking behind everyone else’s back too - just to undermine any of his rivals in the inner circle.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:54:54am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

I’ve had several ideas for Photoshops of her kneeling, but all are NSFW.

That pic of KAC on the couch, knees apart is in itself NFSW. It’s a pre-porno shot where the director hasn’t yet said “ROLL!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:55:13am

re: #408 lawhawk

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Heh.

Considering that Trump is often the biggest complainer about leaks, what are the odds he’s the one leaking - or should I say his alter egos Bannon and John Miller? Even odds there.

Bannon could be leaking behind everyone else’s back too - just to undermine any of his rivals in the inner circle.

She’s a huge RW hack but there’s something valid to that.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:58:27am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

It’s going to be a train wreck tonight. I don’t want to watch it, but I probably will, here with you all. How can you not watch a train wreck, especially when you’re tied to the tracks?

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I can’t watch him…everything about him makes me cringe. It was bad enough when he ran for President, now that he is actually in control it is all too much.

I heard some people saying last night this is his time to pivot and show his stuff as a leader. He will finally act Presidential.

I say he is incapable of acting Presidential. He is what he is. An arrogant, ignorant, over-bearing, fake appearance, fake character, fake rich guy.

And this speech will be wooden because he can’t read and he doesn’t understand the words he will given so he adds nothing as far as personality to what falls out of his mouth.

Plus the speech will be more of the same crap. He will say he is great and everything is just fine, the press is his enemy, the protesters are paid to be against him by the loser Democrats, blah the fuckity blah.

The LGF members act as a great filter . It is the only way to absorb anything Trump.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 7:59:09am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Trump nearly always deflect attention from his own malfeasance by claiming his opponents are doing what he is doing. Claiming others are corrupt or lazy, when the reality is he is both. Claiming others are tied to the Russians or are warmongering - when Trump’s the one with the cozy ties to Russia and is demanding massive and unnecessary military buildup.

Etc.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:00:30am

re: #408 lawhawk

@DanaPerino
Dana’s rule on leaks: whoever first complains about the leak is most often the leaker. #trustme

See also: Whoever smelt it, dealt it.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:00:54am

re: #408 lawhawk

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Heh.

Considering that Trump is often the biggest complainer about leaks, what are the odds he’s the one leaking - or should I say his alter egos Bannon and John Miller? Even odds there.

Bannon could be leaking behind everyone else’s back too - just to undermine any of his rivals in the inner circle.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:01:38am

re: #411 ObserverArt

There are probably forms of torture more bearable than listening to Trump give a speech.

I’ve managed to avoid almost all of his speech so far, mainly following them on here and on Twitter, don’t plan on changing that going forward.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:02:07am

re: #413 Franklin

re: #414 Dr. Matt

I’ll grant you the honors, you had to type/tweet/copy/paste url. I just had to type.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:02:18am

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

I really want someone to yell “you lie!” during the speech.

I don’t.

I want the Democrats to be on their best reserved behavior.

Don’t give them any ammo. Let the GOP hang itself. So far it is doing a great job.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:02:25am

re: #382 lawhawk

Ah, the justification of destroying the EPA. Because someone claims anecdotes of EPA doing its job:

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Junk Science purveyor Steve Milloy seems to ignore that pollutants in water flows through soils and drainage ditches to waterways where those pollutants mix, collect, and ultimately can affect water supplies that people use for drinking or industrial processes (unless they’re so toxic that even the companies can’t use it because they’re awful - see GM at Flint).

Also, standing water creates a breeding ground for mosquitoes which creates a massive health hazard vis a vis zika, bird flu, etc.

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I cannot.  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:02:45am

re: #409 MsJ

For those of you who just had the same mental image I did, here are cute baby monkeys playing around…

Swing Into The New Squirrel Monkey Jungle Walk

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:02:47am

re: #412 lawhawk

Trump nearly always deflect attention from his own malfeasance by claiming his opponents are doing what he is doing. Claiming others are corrupt or lazy, when the reality is he is both. Claiming others are tied to the Russians or are warmongering - when Trump’s the one with the cozy ties to Russia and is demanding massive and unnecessary military buildup.

Etc.

Someone won The Internet the other day by saying “Trump projects what he does so much I’m beginning to wonder if he is really a Muslim who was born in Kenya”

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:04:42am

re: #272 Targetpractice

For over a week now, the NYT has brought us the plight of the “economic anxiety” crowd in the face of liberal indifference. Now WaPo is bringing us fantasies about a Trump who can give a speech about America where he can string together enough sentences coherently as to paint a positive message.

I think we’ve nailed down why people have so little faith in the media these days.

Hunter at kos expresses my feelings about hearing about yam voters:

How are we all feeling, then? Do we all properly understand Trump voters yet? If not, don’t worry. By tomorrow there will be another piece profiling still more of them. By the time Trump gets impeached or resigns to spend more time with his money we’ll have met every last one of them.

dailykos.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:06:02am

re: #405 Dr. Matt

hmmmmmmmmmmmm, paczki. Almost makes me miss the mitten.

There is a Netflix show out there where an old Bulgarian? woman refers to packzi as “Polish trash pastries” and proceeds to throw the doughnuts into the yard and says (paraphrase) “box, I need a box and will keep”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:06:21am

re: #421 BeachDem

Hunter at kos expresses my feelings about hearing about yam voters:

How are we all feeling, then? Do we all properly understand Trump voters yet? If not, don’t worry. By tomorrow there will be another piece profiling still more of them. By the time Trump gets impeached or resigns to spend more time with his money we’ll have met every last one of them.

dailykos.com

I’m just sick of being told we need to “understand” them. Was the right ever told to understand Obama’s coalition at all? Not just Hillary’s but Obama’s as well. But yes let’s have a pity party for the WWC as if they’re the only group in this country that has problems.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:07:05am

re: #422 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There is a Netflix show out there where an old Bulgarian? woman refers to packzi as “Polish trash pastries” and proceeds to throw the doughnuts into the yard and says (paraphrase) “box, I need a box and will keep”

Her loss. And I’m not Polish.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:09:09am

Don’t need to be Polish to enjoy delicious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:10:01am

re: #406 MsJ

And she had the audacity to say “This isn’t me. This isn’t him.” I couldn’t believe it. I was thinking, it is EXACTLY who and what you are. I think they expected Trump to pardon them. Guess that didn’t work out so well for them. At least not yet.

I assume they thought they were just having some good ol’ boy (and girl) fun and would never be taken to task for it.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:10:52am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I’m just sick of being told we need to “understand” them. Was the right ever told to understand Obama’s coalition at all? Not just Hillary’s but Obama’s as well. But yes let’s have a pity party for the WWC as if they’re the only group in this country that has problems.

Obama’s coalition just wanted free stuff.
//

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:11:09am

re: #425 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Don’t need to be Polish to enjoy delicious.

Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:11:30am

re: #427 sagehen

Obama’s coalition just wanted free stuff.
//

Ha!

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:12:11am

re: #422 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There is a Netflix show out there where an old Bulgarian? woman refers to packzi as “Polish trash pastries” and proceeds to throw the doughnuts into the yard and says (paraphrase) “box, I need a box and will keep”

Didn’t hear about that.

This is perhaps one of the most famous Czech TV commercials, for a website. The commercial is known here as “Bobika”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:12:26am

Anyhow, I did hear an interview with an Indiana factory worker who voted for Trump and who is about to get laid off. I feel bad for the guy but I really wish people like him had looked at what Trump actually did in the business world.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:13:05am
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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:13:12am

So this happened….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:13:35am

re: #425 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Don’t need to be Polish to enjoy delicious.

Germans eat them like mad at this time of year (Karneval). They call them Kreppel or Berliner.

Heck, John F Kennedy even called himself one, he loved them so much…

Ich bin ein jelly-filled doughnut!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:13:36am

re: #430 Dr Lizardo

Didn’t hear about that.

This is perhaps one of the most famous Czech TV commercials, for a website. The commercial is known here as “Bobika”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:14:26am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

President Trump is going to find out the hard way that you can’t tell someone who just lost their health insurance that it’s “fake news.”

But they will lose their insurance nonetheless.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:14:31am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, I did hear an interview with an Indiana factory worker who voted for Trump and who is about to get laid off. I feel bad for the guy but I really wish people like him had looked at what Trump actually did in the business world.

It might make me a bad person, but I’ve never had a lot of sympathy/empathy for stupid people.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:15:15am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:15:31am

re: #433 MsJ

So this happened….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:15:53am

re: #437 Timothy Watson

It might make me a bad person, but I’ve never had a lot of sympathy/empathy for stupid people.

Does said person have dependent children who will now be uninsured?

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:16:21am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

I get it Matt, you love Trump.

Do they love Trump or do they love the fact that Trump is messing with everything liberal/progressive?

I think they love seeing liberals upset. They don’t care about anything other than showing people up and poking them in the eye.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:16:55am

re: #438 Dr Lizardo

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:17:24am

re: #441 ObserverArt

Do they love Trump or do they love the fact that Trump is messing with everything liberal/progressive?

I think they love seeing liberals upset. They don’t care about anything other than showing people up and poking them in the eye.

I think some of them honestly agree with a lot of Trump’s fucked up ideology but yes for sure, that’s the case with many of them.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:17:35am

re: #416 Franklin

I’ll grant you the honors, you had to type/tweet/copy/paste url. I just had to type.

Great minds think alike!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:18:07am

re: #437 Timothy Watson

It might make me a bad person, but I’ve never had a lot of sympathy/empathy for stupid people.

I don’t blame you. I just felt bad because he is still losing his job and he still has faith in Trump. It is sad. At the same time though, I’m tired of the infantizing of these voters too.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:18:15am

re: #440 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does said person have dependent children who will now be uninsured?

No idea, don’t have his entire biography. The stories that the WaPo have been running don’t do much to generate sympathy or empathy from me. Most of the people come across of hateful little shits who loathe the “others”.

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stpaulbear  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:18:32am

re: #411 ObserverArt

I can’t watch him…everything about him makes me cringe. It was bad enough when he ran for President, now that he is actually in control it is all too much.

I heard some people saying last night this is his time to pivot and show his stuff as a leader. He will finally act Presidential.

I say he is incapable of acting Presidential. He is what he is. An arrogant, ignorant, over-bearing, fake appearance, fake character, fake rich guy.

And this speech will be wooden because he can’t read and he doesn’t understand the words he will given so he adds nothing as far as personality to what falls out of his mouth.

Plus the speech will be more of the same crap. He will say he is great and everything is just fine, the press is his enemy, the protesters are paid to be against him by the loser Democrats, blah the fuckity blah.

The LGF members act as a great filter . It is the only way to absorb anything Trump.

I’m wondering if anyone will walk out on the speech not so much as a planned act of protest, but because they just can’t stand to listen to his lies any more. It will take a super-human act of endurance to listen quietly to the end, especially as Trump endlessly insults ‘the opposition’.

Someone’s not going to make it to the end and, as they leave, Trump will call them out and harass them from the lectern. I’m afraid that this could be an ugly spectacle.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:18:59am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germans eat them like mad at this time of year (Karneval). They call them Kreppel or Berliner.

Heck, John F Kennedy even called himself one, he loved them so much…

Ich bin ein jelly-filled doughnut!

Israelis call them sufganiyot and eat them at Hanukkah.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:19:00am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

Heh I believe that’s based off an urban legend.

There is an urban legend Poodle with Noodles

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:22:25am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame you. I just felt bad because he is still losing his job and he still has faith in Trump. It is sad. At the same time though, I’m tired of the infantizing of these voters too.

And we aren’t supposed to be condescending to them but we’re also supposed to explain things to them like they’re children.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:22:46am

re: #449 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There is an urban legend Poodle with Noodles

Yes, that’s the legend I was talking about. I love urban legends and folklore. Came really close to taking a class on it my final semester.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:23:26am

re: #450 Timothy Watson

And we aren’t supposed to be condescending to them but we’re also supposed to explain things to them like they’re children.

Yeah I don’t get it. I think both the far left/far right treat these people like children. They’re not.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:23:51am

re: #433 MsJ

Brad Hoover is soon going to find out the power social media can have on your livelihood. Did that imbecile post that on linkedin?

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:24:00am

re: #385 wheat-dogg

There was so much wrong with his answer to that question, it boggles the mind. He’s a complete idiot, just saying whatever comes into his pea-sized brain.

His whole character is pure used car salesman that previously worked as an advertising rep for a really small town AM radio station. It all cheap bullshit hype to get you to buy cheap junk.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:24:09am
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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:24:27am
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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:25:37am

re: #447 stpaulbear

I’m afraid that this could be an ugly spectacle.

‘Ugly spectacle’ is Trump’s default setting. There’s zero chance of it being anything but.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:26:03am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

Yes, that’s the legend I was talking about. I love urban legends and folklore. Came really close to taking a class on it my final semester.

Fake News in the days before the Internets

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:26:22am

He posted his terrorist threat on facebook. It seems he deleted his account.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:27:26am

re: #458 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fake News in the days before the Internets

I wouldn’t say that. More like stories we used to entertain each other before visual media and widespread literacy. Urban legends are really a lot of old time folklore but in the modern era.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:27:53am

re: #459 Dr. Matt

Looks like someone’s gonna get a write-up.

Or a pink slip.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:27:56am

re: #437 Timothy Watson

It might make me a bad person, but I’ve never had a lot of sympathy/empathy for stupid people.

Oh, I do. They couldn’t help being born stupid, and then probably raised stupid too.

(I also have sympathy/empathy for for rattlesnakes and rabid dogs. Doesn’t stop me from killing them, but I feel sad that it was necessary.)

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:28:21am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get it. I think both the far left/far right treat these people like children. They’re not.

They could have voted for the person with a 20-point plan to help them or they could vote for the person selling them a bill of goods with no plan.

Which did they choose?

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:28:41am

re: #447 stpaulbear

I’m wondering if anyone will walk out on the speech not so much as a planned act of protest, but because they just can’t stand to listen to his lies any more. It will take a super-human act of endurance to listen quietly to the end, especially as Trump endlessly insults ‘the opposition’.

Someone’s not going to make it to the end and, as they leave, Trump will call them out and harass them from the lectern. I’m afraid that this could be an ugly spectacle.

I don’t see that happening unless Trump goes off the deep end - which is possible. Democrats don’t play games like GOPers do. But if he is egregious enough, all bets are off.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:29:33am

re: #463 Timothy Watson

They could have voted for the person with a 20-point plan to help them or they could vote for the person selling them a bill of goods with no plan.

Which did they choose?

Even my mom was spouting the HRC didn’t address the working class myth that has started. I had to explain to her that was incorrect. They voted for soundbites over policy.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:30:30am

re: #461 Dr Lizardo

Looks like someone’s gonna get a write-up.

Or a pink slip.

Or a visit from LEOs….or from pissed off citizens:

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:30:33am

re: #453 Dr. Matt

Brad Hoover is soon going to find out the power social media can have on your livelihood. Did that imbecile post that on linkedin?

I thought it was Facebook. Perhaps Cuban looked him up on LinkedIn.

Sadly, it takes a Mark Cuban to get visibility because there are a tremendous amount of people like this schmoe.

I think all future tweets that show this level of hate should cc: Cuban. Shining light (by the millions that follow Cuban) is likely the only way.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:31:19am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Even my mom was spouting the HRC didn’t address the working class myth that has started. I had to explain to her that was incorrect. They voted for soundbites over policy.

And the guy running for Congress in my district was education reform, infrastructure improvements (including water and broadband access), and veterans.

He got 35% against an incumbent Republican.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:32:18am

re: #462 sagehen

Oh, I do. They couldn’t help being born stupid, and then probably raised stupid too.

(I also have sympathy/empathy for for rattlesnakes and rabid dogs. Doesn’t stop me from killing them, but I feel sad that it was necessary.)

Maybe I should have used “ignorant” instead of “stupid” in my original post.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:32:25am

re: #459 Dr. Matt

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He posted his terrorist threat on facebook. It seems he deleted his account.

See my littlegreenfootballs.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:32:52am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Welp that didn’t last long.

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They are doing everything to make sure they see no evidence. Not gonna find it if you aren’t looking.

The “we have seen no evidence” is the new GOP talking point. Senator Nunes from the Senate Intelligence Commitee repeated that many many times yesterday.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:33:01am

re: #470 MsJ

See my littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:33:02am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

Full Metal Jacket - Jelly Doughnut Scene

You owe me one jelly donut.

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I cannot.  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:33:51am

re: #464 MsJ

I don’t see that happening unless Trump goes off the deep end - which is possible. Democrats don’t play games like GOPers do. But if he is egregious enough, all bets are off.

You remember the epic meltdown that was his first presser…you think will go any better for him? I’m just wondering what kind of face the Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver will make as he watches his re-election chances plummet in real-time right in front of him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:35:17am

re: #468 Timothy Watson

And the guy running for Congress in my district was education reform, infrastructure improvements (including water and broadband access), and veterans.

He got 35% against an incumbent Republican.

Russ Feingold underperformed Hillary in Wisconsin. I mean as I’ve said before, I do think a lot of white progressives have a romantic notition of the WWC and their voting habits. They remember perhaps their own families being positively drawn to the Democratic Party because of the New Deal and think that’s all it will take to bring them back but it’s not that simple.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:35:19am

re: #466 Dr. Matt

Or a visit from LEOs….or pissed off citizens:

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:36:02am

re: #470 MsJ

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:36:25am

re: #476 MsJ

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:36:35am

So more news this morning…

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:37:38am

Has anyone heard of this musician, she just followed me on Twitter, great version of Southern man.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:38:22am

re: #415 Timothy Watson

There are probably forms of torture more bearable than listening to Trump give a speech.

I’ve managed to avoid almost all of his speech so far, mainly following them on here and on Twitter, don’t plan on changing that going forward.

Waterboarding.

It’s why Trump is fine with it.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:38:36am

re: #478 Dr. Matt

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:39:25am

re: #480 gocart mozart

Has anyone heard of this musician, she just followed me on Twitter, great version of Southern man.

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H ave not. Listening to the cover though. I’m a Neil fan because of my Dad.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:41:10am

re: #480 gocart mozart

Has anyone heard of this musician, she just followed me on Twitter, great version of Southern man.

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Wow. Nice. Thanks for sharing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:42:16am

This is a good cover. Good oice and good instrumentation. Neil would be proud.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:43:22am

re: #421 BeachDem

Hunter at kos expresses my feelings about hearing about yam voters:

How are we all feeling, then? Do we all properly understand Trump voters yet? If not, don’t worry. By tomorrow there will be another piece profiling still more of them. By the time Trump gets impeached or resigns to spend more time with his money we’ll have met every last one of them.

dailykos.com

Ahhh…the very specialty of Nicole Wallace at MSNBC. I don’t know if anyone has done more trying to understand Trump voters.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:45:02am

A lot of Trump voters I’ve sen say tehy were tired of being told they couldn’t say or do certain things. It wasn’t just ‘economic anxiety’, it was I can’t get away with saying certain words anymore without getting stink eye anxiety.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:46:18am

re: #474 I cannot.

You remember the epic meltdown that was his first presser…you think will go any better for him? I’m just wondering what kind of face the Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver will make as he watches his re-election chances plummet in real-time right in front of him.

How gerrymandered is Ryan’s district? Could he be primaried?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:46:30am

re: #482 MsJ

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:48:16am
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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:48:56am

re: #489 Eclectic Cyborg

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:50:05am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

How gerrymandered is Ryan’s district? Could he be primaried?

He was primaried last year. The guy didn’t do so well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:50:55am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

How gerrymandered is Ryan’s district? Could he be primaried?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:51:15am

...

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:52:14am

re: #447 stpaulbear

I’m wondering if anyone will walk out on the speech not so much as a planned act of protest, but because they just can’t stand to listen to his lies any more. It will take a super-human act of endurance to listen quietly to the end, especially as Trump endlessly insults ‘the opposition’.

Someone’s not going to make it to the end and, as they leave, Trump will call them out and harass them from the lectern. I’m afraid that this could be an ugly spectacle.

If it gets ugly, I hope it is because of Trump starting and causing it.

As I said up thread…I want the Democrats to be nothing but quiet and reserved. Do not fall for any of the BS. Just show up, listen, comment a bit if need be and go home.

Trump and the GOP are killing themselves with the town hall messes, the lack of wanting to investigate the Russian ties, the ACA repeal and replace, etc.

Do not get in the way of them damaging themselves. Give FOX News nothing. Give Trump nothing.

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I cannot.  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:53:14am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

As I recall, that guy was nuttier than Jimmy Carter’s peanut farm.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:53:39am

re: #491 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:54:19am

re: #496 I cannot.

As I recall, that guy was nuttier than Jimmy Carter’s peanut farm.

Most GOP primary challengers are. I’m hoping Evan McMullin challenges Chaffetz.

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CongoJack  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:54:43am

re: #493 Eclectic Cyborg

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My brother in-law lives in Janesville. That area is backwoods stupid (and sadly quite full of drugs).

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:56:42am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 8:57:55am

re: #500 gocart mozart

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Lol, I thought it was Damien.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:00:57am

re: #500 gocart mozart

I can’t see the picture, but that’s a movie I have to show my son.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:02:22am

re: #502 Belafon

I can’t see the picture, but that’s a movie I have to show my son.

I still need to see it myself.

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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:03:58am

Speechless:

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:15:09am

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:15:15am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m doubtful that is going to happen. Gerrymandering or no, when millions of people lose their healthcare they are not going to vote GOP ever again.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:15:49am

re: #504 electrotek

Speechless:

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Porsches are not for the ordinary driver no matter how much money you have. People don’t understand the dynamics of their handling characteristics. It is so very easy to spin one out if you put too much steering input into one. Depending on the model they are either neutral or very prone to oversteer. I see it was a 24 year old rich kid driving. So typical.

Should be special license and instruction for such cars. And I love cars…but I love understanding and respecting cars.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:17:17am

Finally took the stray cat I rescued last month into the vet for a checkup. It was exhausting getting him into the carrier. Learned that Cozy is a male, and not neutered. He is getting fixed and tested now.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:18:00am

re: #505 Flying Squirrel Girl

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

I would talk to a lawyer who has experience in these things, before, during, and after, if there is a during and after.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:18:57am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

Finally took the stray cat I rescued last month into the vet for a checkup. It was exhausting getting him into the carrier. Learned that Cozy is a male, and not neutered. He is getting fixed and tested now.

Tested and detested?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:19:29am

re: #509 wrenchwench

I would talk to a lawyer who has experience in these things, before, during, and after, if there is a during and after.

Agreed, definitely talk to a lawyer. Man I hate that this is a thing.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:19:53am

re: #505 Flying Squirrel Girl

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

Not a lawyer, but I would make sure that a close family member has a (certified) copy of all his naturalization paperwork and a copy of his passport. At least then a lawyer would have anything he needed if a court case arose.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:19:56am

re: #506 Romantic Heretic

I’m doubtful that is going to happen. Gerrymandering or no, when millions of people lose their healthcare they are not going to vote GOP ever again.

I hope the GOP will have the sense not to do so, but they seem rather ideologically blindered and have painted themselves into a corner over this.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:20:04am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Even my mom was spouting the HRC didn’t address the working class myth that has started. I had to explain to her that was incorrect. They voted for soundbites over policy.

It’s easier than thinking.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:23:19am

re: #512 Timothy Watson

Excellent advice, thank you!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:25:54am
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Interesting Times  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:30:38am

Ha:

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:30:41am

re: #506 Romantic Heretic

I’m doubtful that is going to happen. Gerrymandering or no, when millions of people lose their healthcare they are not going to vote GOP ever again.

I just got off the phone with a director friend who lives in Berlin, and we’re in agreement that what is ultimately going to happen is a total re-branding of ACA with some window-dressing ‘changes’ that they’ll be able to point to in order to call it different from O-Care.

They’ve discovered the new third rail of politics, and none of them have the guts to actually grab it - because those town hall meetings have given them a glimpse of what will happen if they do.

(Of course, they’re so stupid and venal that they’ll probably just go ahead and prove me wrong on this.)

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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:32:15am

re: #507 ObserverArt

Porsches are not for the ordinary driver no matter how much money you have. People don’t understand the dynamics of their handling characteristics. It is so very easy to spin one out if you put too much steering input into one. Depending on the model they are either neutral or very prone to oversteer. I see it was a 24 year old rich kid driving. So typical.

Should be special license and instruction for such cars. And I love cars…but I love understanding and respecting cars.

ESPECIALLY the Porsches that are rear-engined.

Snap oversteer ain’t no joke.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:32:27am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:34:34am

re: #516 Dr. Matt

He’s such a fucking assclown:

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But Obama said I!

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:35:12am

So, this is disgusting too. Ryan calls cutting safety net programs his “dream,” laughs about cutting Obamacare and Medicaid expansion. Sick. - Tommy Christopher, commenting on Ryan’s fuckery.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:38:03am

re: #373 lawhawk

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That’s right folks. Trump who said that he’d come up with a super secret plan to defeat ISIS after talking with the generals is told by the generals, including his own pick in Mattis that the best way to defeat ISIS is to continue Obama’s tactics and strategy.

Yeah, how long before Trump: 1) takes credit for the strategy all along; 2) blames Obama if it doesn’t work out well because Trump’s own statements are being incorporated into ISIS propaganda on a daily basis undermining the military strategy on the ground; or 3) both.

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Not surprised.
Pretty sure I shared this article back in Jan.
SPECIAL REPORT: The Military Loves the Obama Doctrine. Can It Survive Trump? (Jan 15, 2017)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:38:55am

re: #522 lawhawk

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So, this is disgusting too. Ryan calls cutting safety net programs his “dream,” laughs about cutting Obamacare and Medicaid expansion. Sick. - Tommy Christopher, commenting on Ryan’s fuckery.

Fuck Ryan.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:39:10am

Drone strike. A policy greatly expanded by Obama, and Mattis said that the best strategy against ISIS is to continue Obama policy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:43:16am

re: #517 Interesting Times

I remember buying that album when it came out in 1973

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:49:20am

re: #525 lawhawk

Drone strike. A policy greatly expanded by Obama, and Mattis said that the best strategy against ISIS is to continue Obama policy.

Can’t wait till DT finally does something about ISIS after all the non-action by Obama.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:49:46am

re: #522 lawhawk

So, this is disgusting too. Ryan calls cutting safety net programs his “dream,” laughs about cutting Obamacare and Medicaid expansion. Sick. - Tommy Christopher, commenting on Ryan’s fuckery.

I got my college degree and my cushy government job, fuck the rest of you.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:51:16am

re: #528 Belafon

I got my college degree and my cushy government job, fuck the rest of you.

He’s literally someone who benefited from the programs he claims to hate. The ultimate fuck you I got mine Republican.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:51:35am

re: #525 lawhawk

@margbrennan
.@CBSDavidMartin confirms Abu al Khayr al-Masri, deputy to al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, was killed by a CIA drone strike in #Syria

Drone strike. A policy greatly expanded by Obama, and Mattis said that the best strategy against ISIS is to continue Obama policy.

This strike was actually rather unusual. I heard about yesterday online.
Through images it appears it turned out to be a “kinetic” strike, rather than “explosive”
My guess is the missile failed to detonate, rather than a planned non-explosive engagement.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:53:59am

re: #417 ObserverArt

I don’t.

I want the Democrats to be on their best reserved behavior.

Don’t give them any ammo. Let the GOP hang itself. So far it is doing a great job.

I don’t totally agree. How far do you let Trump go before we speak up? He wants to spend more on the military and take away healthcare. People will die. I think it’s worth speaking up, but I do see your point.

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Ming5000  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:55:22am

Rachel breaks down Trump’s decision making about the failed Yemen raid.
msnbc.com

More of the same story. Trump is a menace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 9:56:21am

re: #530 FormerDirtDart

This strike was actually rather unusual. I heard about yesterday online.
Through images it appears it turned out to be a “kinetic” strike, rather than “explosive”
My guess is the missile failed to detonate, rather than a planned non-explosive engagement.

A “kinetic” strike, although more challenging, would have the advantage of minimizing collateral casualties. If that is in fact what was intended.

Oh well, one less ISIS for now…

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Ming5000  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:01:35am

A little dated now; Republicans LOVE Trump

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:01:39am

re: #533 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A “kinetic” strike, although more challenging, would have the advantage of minimizing collateral casualties. If that is in fact what was intended.

Oh well, one less ISIS for now…

Yes, but you rely on pinpoint accuracy. If you miss by even a meter, your target goes on his way.
He was an important target. I don’t think they would risk a miss on a rarely available high category target.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:03:22am

re: #534 Ming5000

He’s barely hanging on to the 65+ crowd. He’s alienated every other demographic aside from Republicans.

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danarchy  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:04:11am

re: #505 Flying Squirrel Girl

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

Personally I am the sort of person who doesn’t worry about much. I would go. If he has a valid US passport he will get back in, is it possible he may get hassled by an overzealous customs agent? Maybe, but I wouldn’t cancel a trip because maybe I might get held up at customs. Aside from a few pretty isolated cases, I haven’t heard anything about US citizens having any real issues. Just my 2 cents.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:08:00am

I suspect that next year, the Republicans will run on a platform of “Do you want to get something done, or do you want Democrats spending all their time investigating the President?” And there will be a segment of the population, who, even as they’re getting a leg amputated due to complications from diabetes from the loss of their health insurance earlier in the year, will go “Don’t mess with my president.”

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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:08:43am

re: #525 lawhawk

Drone strike. A policy greatly expanded by Obama, and Mattis said that the best strategy against ISIS is to continue Obama policy.

And yet there are far-left morons who think drone strikes are “immoral”. As well as idiots on the right who only use it as a cudgel to condemn Obama.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:10:30am

Someone just lost their job…

Via French TV: moment a police sharpshooter accidentally opened fire while Hollande was inaugurating a train; 2 hurt

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:10:57am
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nines09  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:12:20am

re: #522 lawhawk

The GOP Healthcare Plan in a nutshell
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:14:14am

Looks like a pretty spectacular eruption of Sicily’s Mt. Etna.

telegraph.co.uk

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Skip Intro  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:14:19am

Yours do.

Thank me later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:15:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:17:13am
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William Lewis  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:17:25am

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good one for today.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:19:17am

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Everything you need to know about pancakes in one handy Venn diagram]

Almost everything. Did you know that blueberry pancakes are really good with ground-up pecans in them?

Made ‘em last night.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:20:55am

re: #548 wrenchwench

Almost everything. Did you know that blueberry pancakes are really good with ground-up pecans in them?

Made ‘em last night.

It is Pancake Tuesday, you know…

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:21:55am

re: #549 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is Pancake Tuesday, you know…

Must eat leftovers today!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:23:19am

H. Res. 111: Resolution of Inquiry requesting information from the Department of Justice on President Trump’s business conflicts and Russia ties

nadler.house.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:24:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:25:57am

re: #550 wrenchwench

Must eat leftovers today!

I just said carne valé by consuming the last meat pel’meni in my freezer. Gonna do the Catholic thing (although I am not one) and lay off meat for the next six weeks.

Not strictly or religiously, but it is something I have been doing for ten years now, and I find it is good to clean out all those hormones and antibiotics from my system.

And then for Easter we make up a big batch of pulled pork, and a tray of chicken and beef enchiladas…enjoyed after bacon and eggs for breakfast…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:26:26am

Sen. Graham on Trump budget proposal for State Dept. budget cut: “It’s dead on arrival. It’s not going to happen. It would be a disaster.”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:26:47am
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nines09  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:26:58am

re: #546 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like the center fold in Goatfuckers Monthly.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:27:43am

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

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H. Res. 111: Resolution of Inquiry requesting information from the Department of Justice on President Trump’s business conflicts and Russia ties

nadler.house.gov

I still can’t find out how my rep voted on the trump taxes. Did you see a full listing yet?

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:29:59am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:31:09am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart

Someone just lost their job…

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Not so sharp shooter……

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:31:56am

re: #543 Dr Lizardo

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:32:07am

re: #559 Dr. Matt

Not so sharp shooter……

Never taught him the purpose of a safety…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:32:54am

re: #558 lawhawk

When Bannon/Trump loses Newt, who now calls for independent investigator into RussiaTrump, you know things are getting bleak for GOP.

yes and no. Newt will do anything he thinks necessary to remain relevant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:33:25am

re: #557 Stanley Sea

I still can’t find out how my rep voted on the trump taxes. Did you see a full listing yet?

I found the recorded vote here.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:33:58am

Good

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:34:11am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart

Someone just lost their job…

Via French TV: moment a police sharpshooter accidentally opened fire while Hollande was inaugurating a train; 2 hurt

Wonder if DT is going to mention “the French Incident”…

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:35:44am

re: #564 Stanley Sea

Good

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I still think Ana Navarro had the right idea:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:35:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:37:30am
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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:37:38am

re: #531 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t totally agree. How far do you let Trump go before we speak up? He wants to spend more on the military and take away healthcare. People will die. I think it’s worth speaking up, but I do see your point.

Speaking up is fine.

I was talking about not doing any kind of acting out during something like a State-of-the-Union or Joint Congress address. Keep those orderly…no “you lie” moments.

Outside when speaking to media or constituents by all means unload.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:39:58am

This is who Pence voted for. This is the guy who Trump nominated. This is who the GOP pushed for the US Attorney General:

“Fundamentally, almost no one coming from the Dominican Republic to the United States is coming here because they have a provable skill that would benefit us and that would indicate their likely success in our society,”

Fundamentally, Sessions is a racist asshat whose only provable skill is being a racist asshat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:40:12am

re: #567 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kate Miller of ACLU tells House panel her group opposes REAL ID b/c its document requirements invade privacy. ^JC

Things would be so much easier if there were a universal national ID card: one for citizens and one for legal resident aliens. It would make it a heck of a lot harder to work, vote or live here illegally.

But as we can see, the ideological hurdles are just too great, from both left and right.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:40:26am

re: #569 ObserverArt

Or refuse to show.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:40:35am

re: #554 Backwoods_Sleuth

The slashing of the State Dept budget while boosting the military…well, you can tell a lot about people from their financial allocations, and this is chilling.

It shows a worldview where diplomacy and cordial international relations don’t matter, but force does…and, I suspect, a desire to keep inter-nation relations under the control of a small cadre working in a non-transparent manner with no accountability, criticism, or oversight.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:41:41am

re: #570 lawhawk

This is who Pence voted for. This is the guy who Trump nominated. This is who the GOP pushed for the US Attorney General:

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Fundamentally, Sessions is a racist asshat whose only provable skill is being a racist asshat.

And the new DNC chair is a son of an Domincian immigrant who served his adopted country in WWII. Perez’s father was a doctor.

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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:42:32am

This is beyond embarrassing for America:

Israel’s opposition leader Isaac Herzog delivered a startling message to the Trump administration on Monday: Israel must prepare to accept American Jews fleeing the country amid a new wave of anti-Semitism.

The leader of the Zionist Union Party—the main challenger to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud faction and far-right coalition—was reacting to a rise of anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S., including the desecration of tombstones at a Jewish cemetery in Philadelphia and multiple bomb threats at Jewish centers and schools across the country.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:42:58am

re: #570 lawhawk

This is who Pence voted for. This is the guy who Trump nominated. This is who the GOP pushed for the US Attorney General:

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Fundamentally, Sessions is a racist asshat whose only provable skill is being a racist asshat.

“Fundamentally, almost no one coming from the Dominican Republic to the United States is coming here because they have a provable skill that would benefit us and that would indicate their likely success in our society,”

MLB begs to disagree.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:43:03am

re: #559 Dr. Matt

Not so sharp shooter……

I just flashed back to training Tunisian Special Forces in 2000.
One of our snipers from the Recon platoon, just back from observing the Tunisians conduct an elaborate live fire exercise, states:
“How do you keep from getting shot by a Tunisian sniper?…
You go about your business…”

(This is all with a Scottish accent.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:43:56am
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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:44:32am

re: #559 Dr. Matt

Not so sharp shooter……

Def no super sharp shooter:

Ganja Kru - Super Sharp Shooter [Original Video]

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:44:37am

re: #567 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Kate Miller of ACLU tells House panel her group opposes REAL ID b/c its document requirements invade privacy.]

NM finally got with the REAL ID program. Mr. w marveled that he could not use his previous license as ID to get his new license. At least he is of the age where they charge you nothing (because you have to do it every year.)

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:44:51am

re: #549 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is Pancake Tuesday, you know…

Tacos are going to be mad.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:45:57am

re: #575 electrotek

Keep in mind that this counts as a plus for a lot of apocalyptic Christian sects, who furthermore see anything the lands on non-Israeli Jews as God prodding them to move back to Israel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:45:58am

re: #581 makeitstop

Tacos are going to be mad.

only one day a year. We can move Taco Tuesday to Thursday this week…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:46:22am

re: #576 The Vicious Babushka

MLB begs to disagree.

You’ll have to excuse him, he still thinks letting Jackie Robinson play was a mistake.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:46:35am

re: #581 makeitstop

Tacos are going to be mad.

Pancakes can become tacos. Mr. w would use a stick of butter as filling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:47:44am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:48:25am

re: #586 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah because O’Keefe is so credible.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:50:25am

re: #583 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

only one day a year. We can move Taco Tuesday to Thursday this week…

Won’t that irritate Throwback Thursday?

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:50:37am

re: #583 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Taco Tuesday— Er, Freedom Friday

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:50:51am

re: #546 Backwoods_Sleuth

That really should be behind tags. Please.

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electrotek  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:50:56am

re: #586 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s always the liberals’ fault, isn’t it?

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:51:36am

re: #588 wrenchwench

Won’t that irritate Throwback Thursday?

Well, one day is gonna get it in the neck. Stupid pancakes.
/

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:51:40am

So the Pentagon told Trump the Yemen raid was risky, Trump authorized it any way, and now he’s blaming the Generals?

This mother fucker hasn’t even seen leaks yet.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:51:55am

re: #588 wrenchwench

Won’t that irritate Throwback Thursday?

How about throwback taco Thursday and those really good Native American tacos can be included?

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:52:18am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:52:45am

re: #595 Kragar

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The buck stops with you asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:52:51am

re: #588 wrenchwench

Won’t that irritate Throwback Thursday?

no, I can throw back tacos like anything

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Ming5000  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:53:04am

re: #586 Backwoods_Sleuth

here’s a trump adviser suggesting it’s the democrats who are making bomb threats against jewish community centers

If so, the investigations would have already commenced.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:53:30am

re: #584 HappyWarrior

You’ll have to excuse him, he still thinks letting Jackie Robinson play was a mistake.

According to Betsy DeVos, playing in the the Negro League was an example of “team of choice”, and likely early “free agency”
///

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:53:40am

re: #591 electrotek

It’s always the liberals’ fault, isn’t it?

Of course it is. Because as I keep hearing it, libbys sold out Jews for Muslims, and we all know every single Muslim hates all Jews and want them dead!!!.

God help me, I wish I were exaggerating that hot take I keep fucking hearing, but I’m not. And even from people who consider themselves ‘lefter than thou’.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:54:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:54:07am

oh……..

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:54:43am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh……..

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Bullshit.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:55:06am

re: #586 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’d think that if O’Keefe can infiltrate a group of Dems advocating instigating violence at Republican events, he could infiltrate the Soros paid protester network and get proof of Soros funding the resistance. I hear if you dress like a bad caricature of a pimp Democrats welcome you with open arms and offer to help you break the law in any number of ways.

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:55:10am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh……..

But remember, the report on racial disparity in law enforcement is ‘anecdotal and sloppy’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:55:28am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:56:14am

re: #606 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh go fuck yourself with AYn Rand’s corpse, Paul.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:56:31am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:57:16am

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No the mistake was electing your boss.

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CongoJack  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:57:17am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #603 HappyWarrior

My fellow Coloradoan and myself will collectively lose our shit (along with CA, WA, AK).

All those stoned cheato eating bastards are so violent that all they want to do is talk about music, watch TV, and eat junk food.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:57:28am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh……..

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The violent pulling on joints and firing up of bowls.
//

Talk about your throwbacks - this is Nixon-era rhetoric.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:58:03am

re: #610 CongoJack

My fellow Coloradoan and myself will collectively lose our shit (along with CA, WA, AK).

All those stoned cheato eating bastards are so violent that all they want to do is talk about music, watch TV, and eat junk food.

AS you should.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 10:58:29am

re: #611 makeitstop

The violent pulling on joints and firing up of bowls.
//

Talk about your throwbacks - this is Nixon-era rhetoric.

Sessions probably thinks the Nixon era drug raids were too soft.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:00:13am

re: #611 makeitstop

The violent pulling on joints and firing up of bowls.
//

Talk about your throwbacks - this is Nixon-era rhetoric.

Shit, the rhetoric goes back to when they first criminalized marijuana.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:00:37am

re: #597 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no, I can throw back tacos like anything

This joke can go to asieleven.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:00:53am

re: #595 Kragar

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Remember when we spent 8 years listening to all the “serious” pundits tell us that Obama was ignoring his generals and that’s why our foreign policy was a mess?

Good times.

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:01:02am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:01:40am

re: #614 Timothy Watson

Shit, the rhetoric goes back to when they first criminalized marijuana.

Reefer madness type shit.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:01:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:01:52am

As Kentucky regulators and utilities are pushing to loosen regulations on the state’s coal ash ponds and landfills, more pollution problems are emerging at one of the sites in central Kentucky.

Over the past six years, documents show contaminated water including arsenic and selenium leached from the ash pond at the E.W. Brown Power Station into groundwater and directly into Herrington Lake, near Danville. Despite remedial measures taken by Louisville Gas & Electric and Kentucky Utilities, the pollution persists.

Now, fish tissue sampling has revealed the coal ash pond’s selenium runoff has poisoned aquatic life in the lake.

Meanwhile, the same regulators who monitor the runoff from that plant have been working extensively with the utility industry — including a group that represents LG&E and KU — to weaken state regulations governing coal ash.

Experts say that under the new regulations, the pollution at the E.W. Brown plant might never have been detected.

snip

In February 2014, Division of Waste Management inspectors were at the Brown plant to examine underground springs — a step in support of the plant’s permit application to build a dry landfill on the capped pond. They shot video of a torrent of orange water rushing down a hill and into one of the lake’s inlets. Water tests performed later showed arsenic levels that were 98 times the maximum allowable level, and levels of iron and manganese were also high.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:02:04am

re: #591 electrotek

re: #598 Ming5000

Kulaks and wreckers.

This isn’t a pattern that’s going to go away. This is a culture where allegiance is more important than proof or a standard of validity.

It is always going to be liberal’s fault. When the “conservatives” fuck up, when someone criticizes them, when something random happens, when people get angry at the consequences of their actions. Reinforcing collective blame is the main goal, not a side-effect.

And the way it’s escalating and merging with conspiracy logic, there’s going to come a point where they step up attempts to make it true. We can already see this with stuff like O’Keefe and memes…but the future is likely going to involve bending the rigorous, evidence-based sections of the state to adhere to partisan messaging. At which point, the counterfeits be become the cultural reality, the story which justifies further action.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:02:26am

re: #620 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, that’s exactly why I’m not in the mood for coal’s “comeback.”

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:04:29am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:04:41am

re: #575 electrotek

This is beyond embarrassing for America:

As I’ve mentioned before, the Orthodox Jews that I work with are all extremely worried about the climate that is being generated in the country. And, we live in ultra-liberal MD in the liberalist part of it.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:04:53am

re: #607 HappyWarrior

Oh go fuck yourself with AYn Rand’s corpse, Paul.

Is it a coincidence that Ayn R. is an anagram for Ryan?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:05:10am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh……..

Sessions promotes hot new film, Reefer Madness.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:05:55am

re: #622 HappyWarrior

I get the feeling coal will be making a comeback because Trump nukes the oil fields and the resulting nuclear winter makes solar power impossible

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:05:59am
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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:06:04am

re: #623 Kragar

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OFFS, he’s seriously entertaining the idea that the desecrations and bomb threats are false flags. Or rather Bannon and Miller are and they’re feeding this shit too him by the spoonful.

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Franklin  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:06:55am

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, there go the 3rd party voters. Racism/Sexism/White Nationalism/Cronyism were ok, but don’t fuck with net neutrality.

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unproven innocence  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:06:58am

re: #626 Sir John Barron

Sessions promotes hot new film, Reefer Madness.

I believe the original title was Tell Your Children.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:07:40am

re: #623 Kragar

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Good fucking grief.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:07:57am

By the way, if the Yemen raid were the success that Bullshit Spice has been telling the press for days, then why would his boss be out there in the press blaming Obama and the generals?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:08:13am

re: #628 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The NRA is a vile and disgusting organization.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:09:34am

re: #422 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There is a Netflix show out there where an old Bulgarian? woman refers to packzi as “Polish trash pastries” and proceeds to throw the doughnuts into the yard and says (paraphrase) “box, I need a box and will keep”

The Santa Clarita Diet starring Drew Barrymoore about a suburban mom/zombie

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:09:44am

re: #426 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assume they thought they were just having some good ol’ boy (and girl) fun and would never be taken to task for it.

They almost weren’t. Look at what the judge said…”I cannot comprehend why they weren’t arrested right away”

I can.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:10:13am

re: #623 Kragar

Another point about this concept of allegiance: it means that no matter who is nominally addressed, the statement is actually addressed to those on-side.

If Trump really continues the trend of accusing this behavior on liberals, it will not be because he cares about the safety of Jews, or even wants to address them to appease or dupe them. The real message is to reassure his followers that they can’t be the people in the wrong.

And if someone is found that isn’t a liberal…they’ll make him a liberal. They already do this all the time, with scant evident and the No True Scotsman Fallacy. Except now this pattern is being used by the people with real power.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:11:15am

re: #637 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Another point about this concept of allegiance: it means that no matters who is nominally addressed, the statement is actually addressed to those on-side.

If Trump really continues the trend of accusing this behavior on liberals, it will not be because he cares about the safety of Jews, or even wants to address them to appease or dupe them. The real message is to reassure his followers that they can’t be the people in the wrong.

And if someone is found that isn’t a liberal…they’ll make him a liberal. They already do this all the time, with scant evident and the No True Scotsman Fallacy. Except now this pattern is being used by the people with real power.

Sadly I see some Jews falling for this horseshit. HURR HURR IT TEH LEFTISTS!!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:11:34am

re: #623 Kragar

Trump is literally using the anti-Semitic tropes that Jews bring this on themselves.

Fuck Trump.

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:12:17am

re: #623 Kragar

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Because of course he’d say that. He and his gang can’t ever seem to bring it to themselves to treat Jews or any actual minority as victims, or even people. It always comes down somehow to the idea that it’s just to make HIM look bad.

And that’s why this shit will continue, because DARVO is our third true rule of politics in this country now, right behind Cleek’s Law and IOKIYAR.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:12:48am
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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:13:38am

re: #491 Belafon

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:13:54am

re: #641 Kragar

it’s the reverse what?

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bratwurst  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:14:39am

re: #641 Kragar

So the President of the United States is suggesting that Jews desecrated my great grandparents graves in order to make him look bad?

Is that what he is saying here?

Sincere question. I have no fucking idea what this means, but it sounds like shit to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:14:49am

Outside @SenToomey 17th /JFK a big @TuesdaysToomey crowd. Inside a dozen members who refuse to leave until Toomey schedules IRL town hall.

Crowd sings “Which side are you on? Where are you Pat Toomey when voters come to call?” #ToomeyTownHall

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:15:10am

re: #623 Kragar

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:15:50am

re: #644 bratwurst

Or that Jews threatened dozens of JCCs around the nation, including those that my family or I have attended/visited over the years?

Fuck Trump.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:16:27am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:16:29am

re: #623 Kragar

Shapiro says he brought up bomb threats, Jewish cemetery desecration over last few days with Trump. Trump said he’ll address tonight

— Anna Orso

I got the most standing O’s ever. And the largest election victory college. It was the best.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:17:02am

Christ.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:17:24am

re: #647 lawhawk

Or that Jews threatened dozens of JCCs around the nation, including those that my family or I have attended/visited over the years?

Fuck Trump.

Jewish Trumporrhoids here. I just can’t anymore.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:17:32am

We’re going to see a lot more of this bullshit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:17:41am

re: #505 Flying Squirrel Girl

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

He is a citizen, so he will be able to get back in the country, though he should be prepared to be detained and interrogated by the CBP for several hours upon his return.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:18:12am
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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:18:20am

re: #641 Kragar

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“To make others look bad”? Which “others”? The man who constantly berated Obama for not saying “radical Islamic terrorists” can’t say “Nazis.”

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:19:07am

re: #655 Targetpractice

“To make others look bad”? Which “others”? The man who constantly berated Obama for not saying “radical Islamic terrorists” can’t say “Nazis.”

To make him look bad. Everything is about him.

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:21:20am
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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:21:45am

re: #648 Kragar

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:22:04am

re: #652 Dr. Matt

We’re going to see a lot more of this bullshit.

Their photo-editor needs to be fired.
The HUMMER brand no longer exists, and was never owned by AM General

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:23:21am

re: #536 Dr Lizardo

He’s barely hanging on to the 65+ crowd. He’s alienated every other demographic aside from Republicans.

Those 65+ are going to go to zero once he fucks them over on SocSec and Medicare.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:23:37am

There is no accountability with Trump ever.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:25:34am

re: #635 Big Beautiful Door

The Santa Clarita Diet starring Drew Barrymoore about a suburban mom/zombie

Thank you, couldn’t remember the show, let alone its name.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:26:27am

re: #658 lawhawk

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:27:02am

So in a week we’ve gone from Bullshit Spice telling the press that Der Trumpenfuhrer deserved praise for his “leadership” against antisemitism, to said asshole telling the press that the attacks are done by “the reverse” to make “others” look bad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:27:03am
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:27:12am

re: #633 Targetpractice

By the way, if the Yemen raid were the success that Bullshit Spice has been telling the press for days, then why would his boss be out there in the press blaming Obama and the generals?

You’re assuming a continuity of messaging from statement to statement is even being tried for.

It’s not.

This is a culture of bullshit that’s nominally political, but is basically aesthetic. The audience and the bullshitter like any rhetoric that makes them both victims and heroes and never, ever wrong. Actual positions…be it about policy or simply about describing what is (there are four lights)…don’t matter, the sentiment, the sense of self-rectitude, matters.

This is why they can lionize the armed forces, but not care about individual soldiers who contradict them, officers that criticize their plans, et cetera.

This underpins all their policy positions: they’re the good guys, they don’t have to explain why their positions are morally good; they’re the smart guys, they don’t have to explain why their plans are smart. Everyone else is depraved or duped. When they are hypocritical, it is not hypocrisy because only their identity and their feelings matter…hence the trend of “I did X, but it’s okay,” and the other trend of “now that X affects me, I understand it’s a bad idea.”

To maintain this conceit over time, there has to be no self-reflection and no retrospection. Thus small bullshit—yesterday’s opinion must be forgotten to validate today’s—and big revisionism.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:27:30am

re: #505 Flying Squirrel Girl

My half-sister is married to an Iranian-born naturalized citizen. They have had plans since last year to go on a Viking river cruise in Europe in March. Several family members are urging them not to go (myself included). I think there is a very real possibility that my brother-in-law will not make it back into the country, but no way to know for sure until it happens. They are determined to go. Any advice I can give them on how to handle CBP challenges upon their return? Would you go if you were in their situation?

re: #653 Big Beautiful Door

He is a citizen, so he will be able to get back in the country, though he should be prepared to be detained and interrogated by the CBP for several hours upon his return.

When questioned/detained, he should invoke his 5th & 6th Amendment rights to remain silent and to have access to a lawyer.

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scottslemmons  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:27:36am

re: #569 ObserverArt

Speaking up is fine.

I was talking about not doing any kind of acting out during something like a State-of-the-Union or Joint Congress address. Keep those orderly…no “you lie” moments.

Outside when speaking to media or constituents by all means unload.

I’d be happy if no Democrats attended his speech at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:28:35am

WHITESPLAINING IN A NUTSHELL

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:29:13am

re: #643 Sir John Barron

it’s the reverse what?

The ‘other side is doing it’ is translated through 45’s bi-neuronal brain into ‘the reverse’?

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:30:28am

re: #669 The Vicious Babushka

WHITESPLAINING IN A NUTSHELL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:31:05am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:32:00am

re: #643 Sir John Barron

it’s the reverse what?

Damn hippie liberals are doin’ it to embarrass the Prez-dent, FALSE FLAG, FALSE FLAG…

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:32:15am

re: #614 Timothy Watson

Shit, the rhetoric goes back to when they first criminalized marijuana.

Reefer Madness

edit: I was REALLY behind.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:33:39am

re: #666 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

And just because I’m feeling especially caustic…

Keep in mind that the “serious” conservatives—and Beltway moderates (*cough*Republicans) who are currently criticizing Trumpism still do that exact thing I just described.

This shit won’t end with Trump, because even the most self-aware GOP pundits still slink back to lotus-eating.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:35:14am

re: #665 The Vicious Babushka

1) that’s not entirely clear, because Trump could have said exactly that - and indeed intimated that Jews might be behind these attacks/threats.
2) Fuck Trump and the media that enabled his toxic rise to power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:36:19am
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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:36:27am

re: #669 The Vicious Babushka

WHITESPLAINING IN A NUTSHELL

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I thought for a sec that DevosED was like debugged, only the opposite, or something.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:38:37am

re: #667 FormerDirtDart

They travel outside of the US almost every year. They’ve never even considered that his birth country might be problematic until now.

OT funny story about my BIL: His brother came here from Iran in the mid-70s to go to school. His brother sent him a bell-bottomed leisure suit from the US, and my BIL took it to a tailor in his hometown in Iran and asked him to replicate it but make the bell bottoms bigger. The tailor told him he could only make them as large as a bolt of fabric is wide, and my BIL said, “OK do it!” So he rocked huge US inspired bell-bottoms in his tiny conservative town. A few years later his father urged him to come to the US because of the political climate in Iran. He has never returned to Iran since, fearing what might happen to him if he does go back, and also fearing that if he goes back he won’t be able to return to the US.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:38:56am

He’s not going to mention the Muslim hate.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:39:22am

re: #669 The Vicious Babushka

WHITESPLAINING IN A NUTSHELL

I hope DeVos is speaking in front of African Americans or at an HBC, and not just tweeting this out from nowhere.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:40:16am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:40:40am

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh……..

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Many snack foods are being violently munched on.

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:41:36am

re: #677 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We heard god knows how many ears about ‘Obama FEMA death camps’ and they’re reviving literal fucking concentration camps in all but name.

Fucking hell.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:42:00am

re: #682 The Vicious Babushka

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FFS, that’s the kind of horseshit Julius Streicher used to publish in Der Stürmer

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:44:25am

re: #614 Timothy Watson

Shit, the rhetoric goes back to when they first criminalized marijuana.

We are going to see Reefer Madness ads soon.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 28, 2017 • 11:45:28am

re: #644 bratwurst

So the President of the United States is suggesting that Jews desecrated my great grandparents graves in order to make him look bad?

Is that what he is saying here?

Sincere question. I have no fucking idea what this means, but it sounds like shit to me.

That literally describes most of what Trump says on any subject.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:02:36pm

re: #674 Stanley Sea

Reefer Madness

edit: I was REALLY behind.

You and me both! I am even behinder than you!

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:05:56pm

re: #580 wrenchwench

NM finally got with the REAL ID program. Mr. w marveled that he could not use his previous license as ID to get his new license. At least he is of the age where they charge you nothing (because you have to do it every year.)

SC is fighting it tooth and nail—even passed state legislation opposing it. Now, our new gov—yam BFF Henry McMaster is asking for another waiver and made some idiotic statement about how not have Real ID will have companies flocking to SC—yeah, because every company wants to locate somewhere where their employees can’t fly.

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Nyet  Feb 28, 2017 • 12:33:06pm

re: #644 bratwurst

So the President of the United States is suggesting that Jews desecrated my great grandparents graves in order to make him look bad?

Is that what he is saying here?

Sincere question. I have no fucking idea what this means, but it sounds like shit to me.

Probably something like “the left did it”. Not Jews.


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