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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:41:57pm

Made it back from town.

The cat loves the LIttle Green Footballs brand diabetic cat food, so I guess we’ll be purchasing more of it. /s

My Parks Canada and Canadian insurance cards both arrived in the mail today, so we’re ready to roll.

We also supported the local Mexican restaurant (since we didn’t get our taco trucks, darn it).

Tossed a bunch of money at the butcher shop, and a little less at the pharmacist.

Now back to your regularly scheduled political blog.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:43:25pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:44:45pm

re: #2 MsJ

These guys really are out to kill us, aren’t they?

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:46:44pm

re: #3 Anymouse

Another wingnut doctor.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:47:00pm

Well, I went to vote when I finished work. My polling station in Los Angeles handles four precincts. After I cast my ballot, I asked the clerks how many people voted as of 515 PM in my precinct…

The reply…

14…

Depressing…

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meteor  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:47:37pm

re: #2 MsJ

Oh boy. This one.

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Teukka  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:48:41pm

re: #2 MsJ

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As someone who studied the 1933-1945 era in Germany, all too familiar…

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:50:33pm
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:58:02pm

re: #8 jaunte

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Holy shit. Now it is beginning.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:58:57pm

Mostly failed author trying his schtick one more time….

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 5:59:02pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

Another wingnut doctor.

Almost seems as if this guy is running his own pill mill and he doesn’t want too close scrutiny - it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:02:45pm

re: #8 jaunte

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Um, Bill, “subversion” isn’t a crime, except in China…

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petesh  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:03:54pm

re: #9 Scottish Dragon

Holy shit. Now it is beginning.

Bring it on! Obama is the perfect enemy for Trump, and quite capable — not mention motivated — of eating him for lunch and spitting the bones all over Pence, McConnell & Ryan. If there is one single stupid move I’d like to see Fox & the Trumps make, it’s to bring Obama out of retirement.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:07:32pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:08:52pm

wonkette.com

FOX News Channel tried to draw a collusion link between the fake idea that Barack Obama ordered some secret wiretap on Donald Trump and passed that information along to Hillary Clinton during her campaign (Bill O is not the only guy wanting to jail the opposition, and not just Mr. Obama).

The source for the “story?” Gateway Pundit, AKA Jim Hoft, AKA the Stupidest Man on the Internet.

FOX and Friends was interviewing Clinton campaign manager Robbie Mook and tried to back him into a corner claiming Hillary Clinton knew about a secret wiretap during the campaign.

Wonkette writes it up in their usual NSFW snarky style.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:09:37pm

re: #13 petesh

Bring it on! Obama is the perfect enemy for Trump, and quite capable — not mention motivated — of eating him for lunch and spitting the bones all over Pence, McConnell & Ryan. If there is one single stupid move I’d like to see Fox & the Trumps make, it’s to bring Obama out of retirement.

I like your attitude here…but Obama is not a street fighter. He never has been.

What concerns me is that with a major wingnut cable talking head now calling for this, it is going to spread and we will see democrats of all sorts from the Obama admin brought into the new McCarthy hearings and also attempts to jail dissidents. This is where the actual witch trials start.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:12:16pm

Trump already accused Obama of being behind the protests. Watch and see if AG Sessions goes after protests, BLM and others in criminal investigations and use RICO to bankrupt anybody associated.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:12:57pm

re: #17 Scottish Dragon

Trump already accused Obama of being behind the protests. Watch and see if AG Sessions goes after protests, BLM and others in criminal investigations and use RICO to bankrupt anybody associated.

Hence my Parks Canada pass. I have a place to live.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:15:29pm

re: #16 Scottish Dragon

I like your attitude here…but Obama is not a street fighter. He never has been.

What concerns me is that with a major wingnut cable talking head now calling for this, it is going to spread and we will see democrats of all sorts from the Obama admin brought into the new McCarthy hearings and also attempts to jail dissidents. This is where the actual witch trials start.

Hang on now. They also said they were going to investigate Hillary - again - for her email server… Which has not come to pass. They are all bullshit talk and bluster.

Don’t sweat it yet.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:15:29pm

re: #7 Teukka

As someone who studied the 1933-1945 era in Germany, all too familiar…

Eugenics, it’s always their base position.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:16:17pm
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Sherlock Hound  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:17:17pm

I’m sorry he didn’t hit a moose instead.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:18:20pm

Ah, rural life.

Calves have a tendency to chase our car (I guess it is so small they figure they can take it in a fight). Usually they are in a fenced pasture when they do it.

Coming home from town a half-dozen calves came stampeding out of a driveway (which did not have a cattle guard because Bill Clinton fired them all) into the road in front of us. Good thing Smart cars have good brakes.

snopes.com

Drove a 360 in the road and then into the driveway, and all the calves followed our car up to the rancher’s house.

Didn’t get a wrangling reward. Perhaps this could be a business model though.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:21:33pm

re: #22 Sherlock Hound

A few years ago my dad hit a doe with his Grand Marquis. There was very little damage to the car. Ford vehicles are tougher than they look.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:21:57pm

re: #13 petesh

Bring it on! Obama is the perfect enemy for Trump, and quite capable — not mention motivated — of eating him for lunch and spitting the bones all over Pence, McConnell & Ryan. If there is one single stupid move I’d like to see Fox & the Trumps make, it’s to bring Obama out of retirement.

Damn straight.

Imagine the legal team he could bring in and lead. The greatest liberal legal minds in the country would probably sign on for the chance to go after both Trump and the modern Republican party.

Obama in a courtroom would be way worse than Trump’s worst nightmare. Hopefully no one will be able to talk him out of it.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:24:03pm

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:25:28pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

A few years ago my dad hit a doe with his Grand Marquis. There was very little damage to the car. Ford vehicles are tougher than they look.

Two years ago we hit a buck with our Smart at sixty miles per hour. No damage to the Smart but the deer was totalled. (We took the car to the dealer for a stem-to-stern inspection, they could find no damage at all.)

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:28:32pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:28:32pm

Dad always had a knack of killing a deer with his car. While his pals would be on their annual Western Pennsylvania Deer Hunt, Dad drives through Raccoon Creek State Park and nails the deer with his car while none of his pals bagged one when they hunted. They always goofed on Dad and his magic touch…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:30:11pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Eugenics, it’s always their base position.

The health plan is coming in three phases, remember?

Phase 1: thin the herd
Phase 2: thin it some more
Phase 3: reward the survivors

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:30:14pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

I few years ago my dad hit a doe with his Grand Marquis. There was very little damage to the car. Ford vehicles are tougher than they look.

When I was a kid, my uncle hit a buck with a ‘53 Cadillac. The whole family got venison, the Caddy got a busted headlight. Those cars were tough.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:31:04pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:31:53pm

Obama, aside to the press, while out kite-surf-golfing with George Clooney or whatever:

“I’m not President anymore. It’s kind of funny that I’m still living inside Donald’s head. Isn’t a nice day out?”

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stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:34:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:36:16pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:36:42pm

From a fake Donald Trump Twitter account, but the meme is good.

From the “convert your iPhones to health insurance” party:

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:38:48pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon

Dad always had a knack of killing a deer with his car. While his pals would be on their annual Western Pennsylvania Deer Hunt, Dad drives through Raccoon Creek State Park and nails the deer with his car while none of his pals bagged one when they hunted. They always goofed on Dad and his magic touch…

When we were looking for a place to live in Nebraska, we were sitting in a restaurant in Valentine early in the morning getting breakfast.

A table of hunters next to us were in a discussion about their morning hunt (turned up nada), and one of the hunters noted a few days before his daughter had just purchased a $75 beater car, and totalled it hitting a deer the same day.

(My guess would be buying a beater is cheaper than all that hunting gear and guns.)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:40:05pm

re: #36 Anymouse

I rather keep my cell phone.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:43:45pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

I rather keep my cell phone.

I don’t have one of those. Do I get health insurance? /s

(Actually I have it due to military service, but the GOP is working on whacking away at that by raising co-pays to the point where it isn’t insurance at all.)

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:45:40pm
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allegro  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:47:14pm

For your entertainment and necessary escapist pleasure… Just finished watching The Night Manager on Prime. From a John Le Carre novel, with Tom Hiddleston and Hugh Laurie. Is REAL good.

Tom Hiddleston (Loki in Thor and the Avengers) has approached Benedict Cumberbatch for me as one of the most talented and to-watch-for actors, as in whatever he does now, I wanna see it and know I will not be disappointed. He was phenomenal as Henry V in The Hollow Crown with the most natural delivery of Shakespearean dialogue I have ever heard.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:47:41pm

Mexican Press group supporting the US press:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:48:43pm
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allegro  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:53:08pm

The GOP way: take apart what is working to replace it with chewed up gum balls.

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:53:27pm

Actual conversation on another site when a conservative announced she was disappointed that the healthcare bill didn’t include buying policies across state lines:

Me: So you favor the erosion of a state’s right regulate insurance appropriate to their residents?

Her: I favor competition in the marketplace. States can regulate their own insurance. Then they can compete with the state next door who gets to do the same thing.

Me: But that’s what happens now. Blue Cross or whomever offers a plan in Nebraska that meets Nebraska’s requirements, and one in Texas that meets Texas requirements and so on.

I await her reply. Which could be a while as people come and go, so many discussions aren’t real-time.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:55:40pm

re: #10 Scottish Dragon

Had to do a web search for him as he sounded familiar. Wikipedia filled me in on Mr. Dreher and the ‘Benedict Option’.

If those nuts want to separate themselves from the rest of society I say, “Godspeed.”

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:56:53pm
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allegro  Mar 7, 2017 • 6:59:47pm

I think I heard that the soldiers at the Alamo had a little trouble getting Mexican sugar for a while. Maybe then.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:00:59pm

Normal governmental functions are shutting down because there’s no one there.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:01:44pm

re: #48 allegro

I think I heard that the soldiers at the Alamo had a little trouble getting Mexican sugar for a while. Maybe then.

Stand by for the price of anything with sugar in it to increase.

Then Trump or the GOP blame the Democrats for not confirming the candidates for the Commerce Department that President Bannon hasn’t nominated yet.

Then FOX News blames the Democrats (without mentioning President Bannon didn’t nominate anyone), and folk that only have FOX for television and conservative newspapers then all blame Democrats.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:04:31pm
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bratwurst  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:05:49pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:07:18pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:08:22pm

re: #46 Romantic Heretic

Had to do a web search for him as he sounded familiar. Wikipedia filled me in on Mr. Dreher and the ‘Benedict Option’.

If those nuts want to separate themselves from the rest of society I say, “Godspeed.”

If Dreher really took the Benedict Option, he’d get off Twitter and the Internet altogether, and we wouldn’t have to listen to his drivel.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:08:40pm
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Belafon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:08:48pm
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Belafon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:09:54pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:10:14pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:10:56pm
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Belafon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:11:58pm

re: #58 Anymouse

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“God said women should go to a shed. He didn’t say anything about taking pills.”

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worldknot  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:14:01pm

Overlong.
Underproduced.
Don’t miss it.

YouTube

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:15:49pm

re: #61 worldknot

Overlong.
Underproduced.
Don’t miss it.

I don’t get this whole “alt-left” phrase. It sounds more like rodent copulation by the right, to say something to the effect of “see both sides are the same.”

Something I’ve held forth on for a while now:

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The Spite House  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:17:06pm

re: #30 wheat-dogg

The health plan is coming in three phases, remember?

Phase 1: thin the herd
Phase 2: thin it some more
Phase 3: reward the survivors

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:19:08pm

Kaili Joy Gray is having fun with all the Republicans coming out saying they need “Democrat” support to get their “health care” bill passed:

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:20:24pm

re: #13 petesh

And why should President Obama have to defend himself against these ridiculous allegations? Naw. Let Democrats in office handle this. President Obama is not a punching bag. He deserves to enjoy the end of his presidency like all the White presidents. I’m sick of him being dragged through the mud post-presidency. He shouldn’t have to fight with Republicans out of office.

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The Spite House  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:20:31pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

OH MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!! The CIA hacked the DNC and Podesta to hurt Clinton, but made it look like the Russians did it to hurt…Trump.

wait wat

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:21:08pm

re: #64 Anymouse

Kaili Joy Gray is having fun with all the Republicans coming out saying they need “Democrat” support to get their “health care” bill passed:

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Hell naw.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:21:50pm

re: #64 Anymouse

Kaili Joy Gray is having fun with all the Republicans coming out saying they need “Democrat” support to get their “health care” bill passed:

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How much milk can a Dem Congresscritter spew out of their nose when hearing this?

YouTube at 11:00…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:22:04pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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This makes total sense. CIA was trying to get Trump elected so that they could destroy his presidency. Or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:22:05pm

re: #37 Anymouse

When we were looking for a place to live in Nebraska, we were sitting in a restaurant in Valentine early in the morning getting breakfast.

A table of hunters next to us were in a discussion about their morning hunt (turned up nada), and one of the hunters noted a few days before his daughter had just purchased a $75 beater car, and totalled it hitting a deer the same day.

(My guess would be buying a beater is cheaper than all that hunting gear and guns.)

If you hit a deer and total the vehicle, odds are the venison is useless because the bones splinter throughout the meat.

Lose-lose situation.

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Interesting Times  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:22:57pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:23:37pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:25:24pm

re: #31 makeitstop

When I was a kid, my uncle hit a buck with a ‘53 Cadillac. The whole family got venison, the Caddy got a busted headlight. Those cars were tough.

Yeah. So tough they often killed the poor individuals inside by either kissing the steering wheel with their chest or putting a head through the front windshield after busting the hard glass. But the car might only have a dented fender.

I’ll never forget and accident that happened on my street when I was around 6 or so. A guy was drunk, ran off the road and hit a telephone pole with the right front fender.

It didn’t appear the accident was even at that high a rate of speed. The driver died from chest trauma from what we heard. The ambulance driver knew my parents and he was also a funereal home director/mortician.

I’ll take today’s car thank you.

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majii  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:26:06pm

re: #53 Anymouse

Before he and a few of his buddies wrote this bill, Ryan already knew he’d have problems getting members of the House Freedom Caucus to vote for it. Now, he needs Dem votes to pass it? The bill is in trouble? This soon? He just released it yesterday! I don’t think he and his buddies, who wrote the bill without input from most members of the House, were prepared for being hit from all sides about the craptastic piece of legislation they wrote as a “replacement” for the PPACA.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:26:31pm

re: #71 Interesting Times

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Obviously, the guy was afraid for his life since he had to shoot at a bunch of people that weren’t doing anything to him.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:27:05pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

And why should President Obama have to defend himself against these ridiculous allegations? Naw. Let Democrats in office handle this. President Obama is not a punching bag. He deserves to enjoy the end of his presidency like all the White presidents. I’m sick of him being dragged through the mud post-presidency. He shouldn’t have to fight with Republicans out of office.

I don’t know. He might actually like kicking Drumpf in the balls in the court of public opinion and make him look ridiculous(er). It would also be an excellent epilogue for his Presidential memoir.

“I thought I was done with Washington, but then the new President sucked me back into the maelstrom with a series of insane accusations.”

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:27:20pm

re: #71 Interesting Times

Apparently the local FOX station is calling it a BB gun.

Not good nevertheless, you can hurt someone with a BB gun as well.

A pet peeve about the way Daily Dot sometimes writes articles:

A pickup truck shot 13 times at the windows and entrance of the Dennis R. Neill Equality Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, frightening the local LGBTQ community, Gayly reports.

Unless Oklahoma is arming pickup trucks now, I’m pretty sure they cannot shoot anything.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:28:14pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:30:52pm

The local FOX station in Tulsa is calling the shooting “vandalism.”
fox23.com
(more at FOX23 Tulsa):

Police are investigating after someone reportedly vandalized Tulsa’s own Dennis R. Neill Equality center Monday morning.

Toby Jenkins, executive director at the center, says he arrived around 8 a.m. Monday to find a window and door riddled with holes.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:33:05pm

Between Snowden, Wikileaks, the willing collaborationists in the Trump group, and opportunistic idiots like O’Reilly, our intelligence community is likely being severely weakened, which is the last thing we need in a new world where cyber crimes and cyber war are taking the place of bombs. I hope there are ways that they can persist and hold out against this increasingly treasonous regime.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:33:20pm

re: #71 Interesting Times

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A BB gun? A fully automatic self-loading BB gun? Where can I get one of those? I can put the fear of Dog into the bird-seed eating squirrels denying food- the very stuff of life!- from my avian friends.

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majii  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:36:32pm

re: #62 Anymouse

“”There is no job in America that Americans will not do.”“

Cotton should have become a victim of self-immolation/ instantaneous combustion as soon as he uttered these words. When my state, Georgia, passed a very punitive immigration law a few years ago with the intended purpose of driving all undocumented immigrants from the state, right-wingers cheered the law, that is, until it was time for farmers’ crops to be picked. Farmers lost millions because most migrant workers left the state for fear of being arrested and deported. Deal, who is also a right-winger, got the brilliant idea of replacing migrant workers with probationers. That didn’t work out well at all. Most of the probationers found the work too difficult and either quit the same day or a few days after signing up for the job. Cotton has no idea what he’s talking about and simply says things he hopes will support his positions on issues. Offer many Americans a job on a sanitation truck collecting garbage, and they will likely turn it down because they see that working at that particular job as an insult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:37:24pm

re: #77 Anymouse

Apparently the local FOX station is calling it a BB gun.

Not good nevertheless, you can hurt someone with a BB gun as well.

A pet peeve about the way Daily Dot sometimes writes articles:

Unless Oklahoma is arming pickup trucks now, I’m pretty sure they cannot shoot anything.

Surprise! Armor-piercing ammo is indeed available for BB guns.
BB guns aren’t toys anymore.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:37:44pm
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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:38:05pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Yeah. So tough they often killed the poor individuals inside by either kissing the steering wheel with their chest or putting a head through the front windshield after busting the hard glass. But the car might only have a dented fender.

I’ll never forget and accident that happened on my street when I was around 6 or so. A guy was drunk, ran off the road and hit a telephone pole with the right front fender.

It didn’t appear the accident was even at that high a rate of speed. The driver died from chest trauma from what we heard. The ambulance driver knew my parents and he was also a funereal home director/mortician.

I’ll take today’s car thank you.

Crash Test 1959 Chevrolet Bel Air VS. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu (Frontal Offset) IIHS 50th Anniversary

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majii  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:42:36pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

Hell to the naw. These b*st*rds want some Dem votes on this sh*tty piece of legislation. They seem to have forgotten that not one GOPer voted for the PPACA. This is a turd they shat in the middle of the floor, and it’s up to them to clean up their own mess.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:42:38pm

I witnessed a pretty devastating car/deer crash on the interstate. I was in a small group of cyclists; we spooked a deer when we rode past a meadow adjacent to the interstate as we were about to cross the overpass. The deer ran onto the interstate in front of a large American sedan and messed up the front end and windshield. The car was in the right lane and could veer off the road, but it was a mess.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:43:43pm

re: #86 majii

Hell to the naw. These b*st*rds want some Dem votes on this sh*tty piece of legislation. They seem to have forgotten that not one GOPer voted for the PPACA. This is a turd they shat in the middle of the floor, and it’s up to them to clean up their own mess.

And what Baghdad Spicer is claiming the greatest benefit of the bill? The stack of paper is smaller.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:46:57pm

Today I called the offices of my senators, Cruz and Cornyn. I wrote the following script for myself:

jU9lO+qjcz/gwO4l9jkrRxKiIzqomo8l/2m3vYwqxgTNfiisdDktJdEHShFO9ZSsFxgJMUdCODyY73bO66DWtVhA4pmKzlJAA0rEochTaTZK8L8zext4Gtd14CYdVtUkSTKXuOEnExEkdzoKxIaz5a/hpK7KznQwdeKnlziWuQUx4QQJcIHeonHfr9PFP8JhxI28YhzkAan8J3z8gcYUJbSp4vMuRrBMzZa4tnc1CBGRry3lB4QIqnYoiGQNHZ3MxKh9fz6x73WTMCOZOAg3cc+6+wCTAJkRptExovEbzVEZe3CW+F4uTeNMUxxtwSGlGsz0GQAV0MR7Dmkg7NH1sdZGBw6v6pho5fVBtRrEHkOx0wEbqRZyA18YTajqlgX1IjgAlGW8XJlDM244zo+40fpmYotmqc6o23rJ3fhSzU78fmzBiIW4XbM1u76bCGtBPq8gK8GbKJ8sGfznTSn3LGY/l/cGuMH3JcqsBI/uCmKnnfkHOQs94Lz0tI+xSAnxGoZc4fbp8PrJ3CWYLvy4G8blaugeTuolzHZ4+TCTYqyWMlWc4JVj6CEqsU2ymujF2/NSDu/cm1HTbfTJhdbBmrQazGCs/qhq9ks3jMhRpjEt8mU9nUz/GwwvnbK7fFMzgkhdxM7FXrYLjf3KWY/actpDNC0AFSP/1AuYkT4gOtpUlsIGEgX3dxLFUWcRllXodF3FefwvNST526/MZc8BOG6Zyp3CGhH/k4KKrFOSAVRPTCbZKu3l63wFfCM3NgdB5eHVhdqY/PpV7g+s3uOdm6rTvO2YT5wdT/7NM58Rio4rnrrNljmp33hbeN6cZDPbp8eBijPX6HZvKFQvPKX8oI2Nih2CEQASLrvssOqIH07oTuCCA2cShU7SX90qfj6H7TSCLHRxGAP6t9OJytIeyVOAfmmMpQg4VgX+laXHsKNlclXHMbRJWK7xTvVsEIkMn6OdaNmB55D/PPqXqFYGo2yI6wDuEN/VmMdCQGScp/lw48GX5aT0X5Hq+xO0gRmJ0iacCIG2o0411SUe/PUprf+0Cme9Agb+/K/hNMwDO1HEgE0G/KbVjAI8ZxQJUy94UR/urK93FPfJVetgjkrUiqUT99eUcn2cbND6WWBOve8DO6Ql8RdFzmsSvtwUJlnEj9OmCuLU/hlLrHJZV/yF+1AjpRO3UTqGdGX0/XNs7U+Cwqv9pzikiA==

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:49:33pm

re: #85 TedStriker

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Video

I’ve seen that video. It is a great illustration of vehicle safety advancement.

No doubt that old ‘59 would have little damage hitting an animal, as some modern cars the front end damage from a deer hit can be thousands. But there is a trade-off in more severe crashes for having that crushability.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:52:11pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:57:03pm

In the immortal words of Ringo…”Oh, my my…”

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:57:32pm

re: #45 calochortus

Actual conversation on another site when a conservative announced she was disappointed that the healthcare bill didn’t include buying policies across state lines:

I await her reply. Which could be a while as people come and go, so many discussions aren’t real-time.

And the conversation continues:

Her: Take Blue Cross. It has to have a different plan for Nebraska than for Texas. IF one can buy across state lines, which, btw, is something both Republicans and Democrats in Congress support, then Blue Cross might not have to write so many different plans. The ability for those living close to state lines to buy across state lines creates competition, which can have the effect of bringing down costs.

Me: And that means that states can’t regulate health care insurance in their own states. Besides, how many people live on state borders near towns in the next state with a good assortment of doctors and hospitals so they can cross the border for all their medical needs?
I don’t think that is what is meant by selling across state lines. They mean that insurance companies can headquarter themselves in one or two states and write policies they can sell to anyone in any state. Just like what happened with credit cards. That worked out really well for consumers.

We’re getting into willful ignorance territory. I’ve linked to a couple sources that say selling across state lines isn’t going to save anyone money. But I’m sure she won’t believe it. The sources, be it a well respected policy group or Forbes, or whatever suddenly become a bunch of biased, raving liberals to so many conservatives whose views are challenged.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:59:24pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Yeah. So tough they often killed the poor individuals inside by either kissing the steering wheel with their chest or putting a head through the front windshield after busting the hard glass. But the car might only have a dented fender.

I’ll never forget and accident that happened on my street when I was around 6 or so. A guy was drunk, ran off the road and hit a telephone pole with the right front fender.

It didn’t appear the accident was even at that high a rate of speed. The driver died from chest trauma from what we heard. The ambulance driver knew my parents and he was also a funereal home director/mortician.

I’ll take today’s car thank you.

I didn’t say they weren’t dangerous. But they sure could take a hit.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 7:59:33pm

re: #74 majii

Before he and a few of his buddies wrote this bill, Ryan already knew he’d have problems getting members of the House Freedom Caucus to vote for it. Now, he needs Dem votes to pass it? The bill is in trouble? This soon? He just released it yesterday! I don’t think he and his buddies, who wrote the bill without input from most members of the House, were prepared for being hit from all sides about the craptastic piece of legislation they wrote as a “replacement” for the PPACA.

Five possibilities:

1) Ryan is an opportunistic hustler like Trump. This was nothing more than a con job to hoodwink the MAGAots.

2) Ryan got snookered in with the years of groupthink bullshit uttered by the usual suspects (everyone on Fox, almost everyone on talk radio) that told him people didn’t want the ACA and wanted it repealed.

3) Ryan knows, but purposefully wants to hurt people because he loves seeing people suffer.

4) Russia is paying him off.

5) All of the above.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:02:01pm

re: #93 calochortus

And the conversation continues:

We’re getting into willful ignorance territory. I’ve linked to a couple sources that say selling across state lines isn’t going to save anyone money. But I’m sure she won’t believe it. The sources, be it a well respected policy group or Forbes, or whatever suddenly become a bunch of biased, raving liberals to so many conservatives whose views are challenged.

An insurance company selling me health care insurance from Delaware would not have doctors in its provider network in Nebraska.

Health insurance does not work the same as car insurance. While states regulate car insurance, they do not have provider pools of mechanics and dealerships (and you can usually wait while you shop around for a mechanic, while medical issues don’t really work that way).

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:02:39pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon

In the immortal words of Ringo…”Oh, my my…”

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I love seeing assholes unwittingly self-immolate.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:02:48pm

re: #95 Myron Falwell

It’s definitely #5!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:03:15pm

The Guardian: President Donald Trump is the most powerful cornered animal in the world

Trump lashes out by creating a chaos of conflicting claims to distract attention away from real allegations. It is all too effective

For all his inconstancy of character, Donald Trump is a master manipulator. He rose to political prominence by slandering Barack Obama. He rode the birther myth as far as it would go - before brazenly jettisoning it with the insistence that it was all the handiwork of Hillary Clinton.

Now once again, he seeks to buoy his political fortunes by attacking Obama. Perhaps what is so striking about the tweets is not their desperation, but their cynicism. In exclaiming “This is McCarthyism!”, Trump said something deeply revealing - only about himself. McCarthyism was never in the first instance about wiretapping. It was about defaming public officials with charges of treason without a shred of evidence. Sounds familiar, no?

Trump’s wiretap ‘smear’ prompts spirited reaction from across political divide
Equally revealing was Trump’s tweet: “I’d bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!” As Trump well knows, a good lawyer can make a case out of anything.

In the 1970s, after the justice department accused the Trump Corporation of racially discriminatory rental policies, Trump hired Roy Cohn. This was a man who, as a young lawyer, had assisted Joseph McCarthy’s red-baiting. On Trump’s behalf, Cohn countersued the government for $100m, a tactic Trump absorbed and has practiced throughout his career: when on the defensive, attack.

Concerned about congressional investigations into contact between his campaign and the Russians? Make a groundless charge of wiretapping against Obama and insist that the allegations be included in the investigations.

Cohn’s countersuit did not prevail, nor will Trump’s charges against Obama stick. But that is not the point. The point is to distract attention away from real allegations by creating a chaos of conflicting claims. And in this regard the strategy is all too effective. If there is something extraordinary about Trump it is how low he is willing to go.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:05:35pm

The more I see what the Trump White House is doing, it reminds me of the part of Breakfast of Champions where Vonnegut describes an alien race that communicates by tap dancing and farting…

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:07:05pm

re: #96 Anymouse

No kidding. Also if “across state lines” only applies to those who are actually going to cross state lines for their care, it won’t reduce the number of different policies companies write. Someone in Ft. Collins might be willing to drive up to Cheyenne for medical care if it saved a bunch of money, but someone Pueblo would not find it worth their while to do so and would need a CO policy.

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stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:07:24pm

re: #95 Myron Falwell

I really believe that Ryan thinks there’s a higher concept that people need to meet or they should be swept away. What that concept is only he and his fever dream of Ayn Rand know.

That, plus he’s a mean clueless asshole.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:08:11pm

re: #88 Anymouse

If they did this as an SNL bit, you’d think the satire was too broad.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:08:45pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:09:49pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon

The more I see what the Trump White House is doing, it reminds me of the part of Breakfast of Champions where Vonnegut describes an alien race that communicates by tap dancing and farting…

Someone needs to pass Trump the apology from God…

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:10:14pm

re: #98 Joe Bacon

It’s definitely #5!

And Ryan doesn’t even hide it.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:10:31pm

re: #101 calochortus

No kidding. Also if “across state lines” only applies to those who are actually going to cross state lines for their care, it won’t reduce the number of different policies companies write. Someone in Ft. Collins might be willing to drive up to Cheyenne for medical care if it saved a bunch of money, but someone Pueblo would not find it worth their while to do so and would need a CO policy.

And someone from Cheyenne might drive to our hospital in Scottsbluff, and another person drives from Scottsbluff, net savings zero (but a lot of miles travelled).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:11:23pm
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(alpuz)  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:11:34pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon

The more I see what the Trump White House is doing, it reminds me of the part of Breakfast of Champions where Vonnegut describes an alien race that communicates by tap dancing and farting…

Wait… weren’t they here to help the humans? But were squashed because of the whole farting and tap dancing hiccup? I gotta read that again.,

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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:12:52pm

re: #104 jaunte

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:13:08pm

re: #104 jaunte

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I’m enjoying every second of seeing the Right implode over this asinine bill!

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:13:26pm
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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:14:17pm

re: #107 Anymouse

And someone from Cheyenne might drive to our hospital in Scottsbluff, and another person drives from Scottsbluff, net savings zero (but a lot of miles travelled).

I think the theory is that if Wyoming offers a great plan, Colorado and Nebraska will have to match it because everyone will flock to Wyoming for healthcare. Yeah. I mean Wyoming is a nice state and all, but I don’t think that’s going to happen.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:16:39pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

Makes no sense.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:17:51pm

re: #104 jaunte

Of course it likely escapes Mr. Cooke completely that he works for the magazine that directly led to creating willfully ignorant fools like “Carol Bannon.”

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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:19:00pm

re: #115 Myron Falwell

Of course it likely escapes Mr. Cooke completely that he works for the magazine that directly led to creating willfully ignorant fools like “Carol Bannon.”

Her answer should be, “What’s that?”

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:19:00pm

re: #113 calochortus

I think the theory is that if Wyoming offers a great plan, Colorado and Nebraska will have to match it because everyone will flock to Wyoming for healthcare. Yeah. I mean Wyoming is a nice state and all, but I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Yup, that’s the argument.

The reality is capitalism: All the insurance companies go to places with the least regulations and the highest profit margins.

Or, they just go to places with lots of people (why offer an insurance plan for a state seven hundred miles from corner to corner with three million people - mine - when you can do the same in California with thirty-five million people).

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:19:25pm

re: #115 Myron Falwell

Of course it likely escapes Mr. Cooke completely that he works for the magazine that directly led to creating willfully ignorant fools like “Carol Bannon.”

I wonder if that’s Steve’s mom.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:21:12pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

I really believe that Ryan thinks there’s a higher concept that people need to meet or they should be swept away. What that concept is only he and his fever dream of Ayn Rand know.

That, plus he’s a mean clueless asshole.

Mean and clueless are the basic characteristics of anyone who is a true Ayn Rand acolyte. I am pessimistic about the House Republicans — they will stand together and pass this legislation because they don’t have an alternative, and Herr Trump gave it his approval. Anything to destroy Obama’s legacy.

Ryan does not care if his proposal will lead to the premature deaths of untold thousands of people. After all, his idol Ayn Rand in her magnum opus Atlas Shrugged had no problems in killing millions of innocent people because they didn’t meet her standards.

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:21:24pm

re: #117 Anymouse

I wonder how many of these free market folks live in areas that needed the rural electrification program and benefited from various federal projects to support that?

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:23:53pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

I really believe that Ryan thinks there’s a higher concept that people need to meet or they should be swept away. What that concept is only he and his fever dream of Ayn Rand know.

That, plus he’s a mean clueless asshole.

If Jefferson Beauregard Asshole willingly met with Russians to throw the election, that means everyone who is impeding any credible investigation is either guilty of complicity, or they are Russian agents themselves.

That includes Ryan.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:26:10pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

Mean and clueless are the basic characteristics of anyone who is a true Ayn Rand acolyte. I am pessimistic about the House Republicans — they will stand together and pass this legislation because they don’t have an alternative, and Herr Trump gave it his approval. Anything to destroy Obama’s legacy.

Basically the People’s Temple reincarnate.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:30:10pm

re: #120 calochortus

I wonder how many of these free market folks live in areas that needed the rural electrification program and benefited from various federal projects to support that?

There are people in my town that benefited from that who are still alive today. (My house is one of those, and later benefited from Public Health Service pushing to install indoor plumbing.)

As for hospitals and insurance, not all hospitals are equal anyway. Denver has several hospitals, some of which specialise in particular needs so they can provide expert medical care in the area they service.

My own community hospital in Bridgeport serves a county of 3,000, so they focus on issues that are the most common needs for the area (agricultural and hunting injuries, &c). If you need care for something uncommon here (malaria, genetic disorders, &c), they will send you to a specialist (probably in Denver or Cheyenne).

Even the VA does this (the hospital that serves my county, Hot Springs, SD does not have a neurology unit - I am treated in Cheyenne).

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majii  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:32:22pm

re: #104 jaunte

This is a perfect example of many right-wingers’ propensity to endorse anything one of their politicians proposes and seem to find it unlikely that one of their own would have anything negative to say about it. Carol Bannon didn’t realize she was talking to another GOPer. What the H*ll does she mean by “open up your mind” when she’s the premier example of someone who doesn’t consider others points of view, even others in his own political party? You cannot make this stuff up!

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:33:25pm

re: #118 jaunte

I wonder if that’s Steve’s mom.

She probably is. Steve’s what, 40? No idea (he looks like he’s 80)

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:35:21pm

re: #123 Anymouse

My kids were born in Englewood, CO and Denver respectively. That whole area is littered with hospitals, many of which started out treating TB. They had to put the maternity units in hospitals that hadn’t been used for TB patients, so, more hospitals. I think by the time my kids were born (in the ’80s) that requirement was gone, but there was a plethora of hospitals.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:36:28pm

re: #124 majii

If this was 1790s France, Mr. Cooke would have been IDed as an enemy of the state by the likes of Ms. Bannon, and beheaded by the Jacobins (with Steve Bannon as a stand-in for Maximilian de Robspierre).

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:39:07pm

re: #126 calochortus

My kids were born in Englewood, CO and Denver respectively. That whole area is littered with hospitals, many of which started out treating TB. They had to put the maternity units in hospitals that hadn’t been used for TB patients, so, more hospitals. I think by the time my kids were born (in the ’80s) that requirement was gone, but there was a plethora of hospitals.

My son was born at home in Virginia Beach.

In Hampton Roads there aren’t very many hospitals, despite the large population. Obstetrics care is extremely expensive. My (ex-)wife and I used a midwife instead (CHAMPUS will pay for certified midwives).

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:41:25pm

re: #125 Myron Falwell

She probably is. Steve’s what, 40? No idea (he looks like he’s 80)

But the portrait in his attic looks amaaazing.

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:43:13pm

re: #128 Anymouse

My son was born at home in Virginia Beach.

In Hampton Roads there aren’t very many hospitals, despite the large population. Obstetrics care is extremely expensive. My (ex-)wife and I used a midwife instead (CHAMPUS will pay for certified midwives).

I guess it went OK? The trouble with childbirth (aside from the obvious downside of labor) is that things can go south fast.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:52:34pm
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:53:47pm

re: #130 calochortus

I guess it went OK? The trouble with childbirth (aside from the obvious downside of labor) is that things can go south fast.

We lived right across the street from a rescue squad … there were no problems though.

Vanity Fair has an article about how it might feel now in the Kremlin watching what’s going on with Mr. Trump and his associates.

vanityfair.com

The last paragraph of the article:

Now, one suspects, the Kremlin is starting to detect what anti-Trump conservatives detected in the fall of 2015. That was when the looming catastrophe came into focus. It was a catastrophe not because of the election, not because of anything political. That was the least of it. It was a catastrophe because it simultaneously illuminated and kindled a darkness, a rot, deep in the American psyche. The Kremlin and its media puppets may not grasp the etiology of this curdling, but they must be aware, by this late date, that something bad is happening in America, and it will spill over, across the oceans and continents, and it will upset, upend, discombobulate everything everywhere. An infant is now the most powerful person on Earth, and he is loved and worshipped by millions, and they think he will save them, that he is He, that the end is near, and so is the beginning. Until a few minutes ago, the Kremlin higher-ups were laughing. Now, like everyone else who hasn’t been swindled, they wait.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:57:19pm

re: #129 Grunthos the Flatulent

But the portrait in his attic looks amaaazing.

The Portrait of Dorian Bannon
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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 8:58:30pm

cbc.ca

Ottawa urged to act on Canadian citizens being denied entry to U.S.
Public security minister has raised issue with his U.S. counterpart but unable to offer access guarantees

The Liberal government is being pressed to defend Canadian passport holders as cases multiply of Quebecers being turned away from the U.S. border for mysterious reasons.

But so far, Ottawa has little to reassure travellers nervous about being profiled based on their religion or ethnicity.

On Sunday, Montreal resident Manpreet Kooner was denied entry to the U.S. when she tried to cross into Vermont from Stanstead, Que. She was told she needed a visa, but border agents refused to give her details about what kind.

(more at the CBC)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:00:29pm

Basically the breathless Wikileaks CIA assertions are almost entirely bullshit. Because end to end encryption works they need physical access to the device they want to hack. That should’ve been the story, that subverting a smart device requires the same high risk on site intrusion by a tech surveillance team that planting any other traditional bug would necessitate. Instead what Wikileaks is selling, the idea that someone at Langley can type a command into their desk terminal and eavesdrop on you through your Samsung TV, has absolutely zero basis in fact.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:03:16pm
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calochortus  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:03:43pm

I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:06:03pm

My wife wants me to come watch an uplifting film about a zombie apocalypse (Scout’s Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse).

She says it’s an important documentary we never know when we might need its information. Zombie cattle, zombie chickens, perhaps it might even save us from zombie Republicans. Catch y’all later …

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mmmirele  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:06:16pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

TY for this. I didn’t want to step into the WL swamp, because I figured it was bullshit. And I was right.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:07:16pm

re: #124 majii

Carol Bannon didn’t realize she was talking to another GOPer. What the H*ll does she mean by “open up your mind” when she’s the premier example of someone who doesn’t consider others points of view, even others in his own political party?

“Open your mind” means to accept Fox talking points and regurgitate them without understanding opposing view points. Her mind is likely closed to any other perspective except if she personally is affected. Most conservatives seem to lack empathy for others, unless they themselves have experienced the identical condition.

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:10:13pm

re: #123 Anymouse

The local hospital here, aside from institutional incompetence, also suffers from a lack of specialists. For example, they have no orthopedic surgeon. Hence when my ex recently fell on ice breaking her leg in four places they had to take her to a different hospital an hour further away by ambulance. This, to me, is an even bigger problem with rural health care than even insurance issues.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:12:17pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

The Wikileaks fear-mongering re: electronic intrusion builds on the many fantastical scenes in TV shows where CSI computer geek taps wildly on her keyboard for a few seconds and voila! Now we can what the perp is doing by hacking his laptop’s webcam or the traffic camera out on the street!

It just don’t work that way.

While I liked watching Person of Interest, the idea that every single camera was connected to the ‘Net and every single phone could be ‘jacked required a huge suspension of disbelief. (Plus there was the creep factor of two rather strange guys watching someone in his or her house through a camera for hours on end.)

Vault 7 requires the same suspension of disbelief.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:17:23pm

re: #139 mmmirele

TY for this. I didn’t want to step into the WL swamp, because I figured it was bullshit. And I was right.

I dl’d the data dump last night and was suitably unimpressed. For security and IT geeks, the contents might be illuminating, but there is no “smoking gun” pointing to specific targets for such electronic intrusions. It’s like WL opened up some chef’s drawer of high-end kitchen knives, discussed the uses for each knife, and implied that any of them could be used to kill someone.

Mostly, it’s a distraction from the #Trumprussia scandal, a distraction which worked for a few hours at best.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:18:26pm

Nice comeback here

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:19:43pm

re: #125 Myron Falwell

She probably is. Steve’s what, 40? No idea (he looks like he’s 80)

I’m not so sure Steve has a Mom.

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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:21:46pm

re: #145 JordanRules

I’m not so sure Steve has a Mom.

Me, either. I was expecting perhaps a snake egg.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 9:32:04pm

United Airlines video about two of their female pilots. One is African-American, the other an immigrant from India.

hub.united.com

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:07:40pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surprise! Armor-piercing ammo is indeed available for BB guns.
BB guns aren’t toys anymore.

On reading this I went, “Wait! What?”

Sadly, you’re right. One of the reviewers even commented on the lethality of the pellets.

Sigh.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:11:50pm

re: #89 Flying Squirrel Girl

I’m thinking the grammar and spelling are too good for a wingnut. ;)

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:28:39pm

re: #149 Romantic Heretic

I’m thinking the grammar and spelling are too good for a wingnut. ;)

Except this was a phone call! So they wouldn’t notice the spelling. The only flaw is that it doesn’t use Democrat as an adjective. Otherwise, it sounds exactly like an argument that my RWNJ Texas brother would use, but with more emphasis on the debt.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:42:55pm

re: #141 William Lewis

The local hospital here, aside from institutional incompetence, also suffers from a lack of specialists. For example, they have no orthopedic surgeon. Hence when my ex recently fell on ice breaking her leg in four places they had to take her to a different hospital an hour further away by ambulance. This, to me, is an even bigger problem with rural health care than even insurance issues.

Intermission in the zombie movie (about as bad a movie as you’d expect with that title: a pair of scouts and a stripper take on a town of zombies)

Our hospital has no orthopaedic surgeon either. When my wife’s doctor sent her to see the dermatologist over suspected melanoma, she had to wait on a circuit-rider dermatologist that travels all over western Nebraska and eastern Wyoming. (Fortunately the wait was short, and the diagnosis was not cancer.)

At one time our village had a physician, but he died in 1948. (That was when the town had more like three hundred people.)

It is really tough to get doctors to go to rural areas, because the costs for a medical degree are astronomical. A physician can charge a whole lot more in a city, plus there are more people to draw on for a practice.

With teachers the problem is similar, but our state attracts them with various bonuses and benefits (and in extremely rural areas, with free housing).

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:46:23pm

re: #95 Myron Falwell

Five possibilities:

1) Ryan is an opportunistic hustler like Trump. This was nothing more than a con job to hoodwink the MAGAots.

2) Ryan got snookered in with the years of groupthink bullshit uttered by the usual suspects (everyone on Fox, almost everyone on talk radio) that told him people didn’t want the ACA and wanted it repealed.

3) Ryan knows, but purposefully wants to hurt people because he loves seeing people suffer.

4) Russia is paying him off.

5) All of the above.

I’ll go for Door #2, Myron.

When your groupthink was based on saying NO!! for eight years, your realthink is just a fucking shit show. Welcome to governing, Paul Ryan, you Randian lightweight. Actual governing is hard!

You little fucking Opus Dei Barbie doll.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:54:04pm

re: #152 austin_blue

I’ll go for Door #2, Myron.

When your groupthink was based on saying NO!! for eight years, your realthink is just a fucking shit show. Welcome to governing, Paul Ryan, you Randian lightweight. Actual governing is hard!

You little fucking Opus Dei Barbie doll.

Opus Dei Barbie Doll? LOL.

Aqua - Barbie Girl

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 10:59:32pm

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:07:38pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Opus Dei Barbie Doll? LOL.

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Video

Where the hell did you find that?

Hilarious.

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Anymouse  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:49:59pm

re: #155 austin_blue

Where the hell did you find that?

Hilarious.

Sorry, my Internet service was interrupted.

“Barbie Girl” by Aqua is their biggest selling hit in the USA.

The backstory is that the song didn’t do very well, however Mattel sued them for trademark infringement. That caused the Streisand Effect in such a big way, catapulting the song around the world to the top of the pop charts.

en.wikipedia.org (song)
en.wikipedia.org. (lawsuit)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:52:03pm

re: #155 austin_blue

Where the hell did you find that?

Hilarious.

Aqua never made it big in the USA, but boy were they ever on the airwaves internationally. When I was in South Africa in 2000, that song was always on the radio. Drove me half batty.

Mattel was not pleased, and took them to court over the song. According to Wikipedia, the judge told the parties “to chill.” LOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:52:40pm

re: #17 Scottish Dragon

Trump already accused Obama of being behind the protests. Watch and see if AG Sessions goes after protests, BLM and others in criminal investigations and use RICO to bankrupt anybody associated.

AZ Senate tried to do just that: pass a bill making protest organizers liable for any damages that result from a protest turning violent. It was shot down by the courts.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:52:41pm

re: #157 wheat-dogg

And anymouse got there ahead of me.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:55:40pm

re: #156 Anymouse

Sorry, my Internet service was interrupted.

“Barbie Girl” by Aqua is their biggest selling hit in the USA.

The backstory is that the song didn’t do very well, however Mattel sued them for trademark infringement. That caused the Streisand Effect in such a big way, catapulting the song around the world to the top of the pop charts.

en.wikipedia.org (song)
en.wikipedia.org. (lawsuit)

That may have been true in the States, but the song charted in the top 10 in Europe, the UK and Asia even before the soreheads at Mattel sued them for impugning the morals of Barbie.
en.wikipedia.org

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2017 • 11:58:24pm

Here’s another Europop group that I heard all the time during my time in S. Africa.

Vengaboys - Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:01:20am

re: #88 Anymouse

And what Baghdad Spicer is claiming the greatest benefit of the bill? The stack of paper is smaller.

They are appealing to the Idiocrats.

163
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:03:53am

And here’s a kwaito group from Johannesburg from the same era.

TKZee - Fiasco

164
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:06:08am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Basically the breathless Wikileaks CIA assertions are almost entirely bullshit.

It is not about the content: it is about the timing and it serves as “evidence” to back up DT’s claims that Obama had him tapped.

Which are already taken as undisputed facts in the RWNJ blogosphere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:08:26am

re: #156 Anymouse

Sorry, my Internet service was interrupted.

“Barbie Girl” by Aqua is their biggest selling hit in the USA.

The backstory is that the song didn’t do very well, however Mattel sued them for trademark infringement. That caused the Streisand Effect in such a big way, catapulting the song around the world to the top of the pop charts.

en.wikipedia.org (song)
en.wikipedia.org. (lawsuit)

We had a damn blackbird out near our garden allotment that used to sing the melody to “I’m a Barbie Girl” over and over again…

(until I shot it with a BB gun)

/

166
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:10:25am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

And anymouse got there ahead of me.

You have to be quick to catch the rolling tumbleweed.

167
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:13:45am

OK, you got me an African music kick. Here’s the incomparable Brenda Fassie, may be RIP.

BRENDA FASSIE - Mpundulu

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:14:31am

re: #166 Anymouse

You have to be quick to catch the rolling tumbleweed.

You old Son of a Pioneer, you!

169
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:17:02am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You old Son of a Pioneer, you!

That was one singularly bad zombie movie (that’s saying a lot, since all zombie movies are bad).

As for pioneers, that reminds me of the great calve chase we went through this afternoon:

Cows With Guns - The Original Animation

170
austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:21:40am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

Here’s another Europop group that I heard all the time during my time in S. Africa.

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Video

Well, that’s just awful as real music and just perfect as pop.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:23:33am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

Aaaa … that song polluted the airwaves for so long …

It appears on a large number of “bad song” lists on YouTube.

172
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:24:25am

re: #170 austin_blue

Well, that’s just awful as real music and just perfect as pop.

It was effective as an earworm. My daughter (then 14) and her best friend played it all the freaking time. Thus it is stuck in my memory.

Something more classic from South Africa: Miriam Makeba.

Miriam Makeba - The Click Song

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:24:53am

re: #163 wheat-dogg

And here’s a kwaito group from Johannesburg from the same era.

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Video

Better!

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:27:07am

re: #167 wheat-dogg

OK, you got me an African music kick. Here’s the incomparable Brenda Fassie, may be RIP.

[Embedded content]

Video

Better yet!

175
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:28:33am

Well if we’re going for bad pop song, “Friday” by Rebecca Black certainly weigh in, with over 2,500,000 downvotes on YouTube (the most of any song):

Friday - Rebecca Black - Official Music Video

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:29:59am

South African national anthem

N’Kosi Sikeleli

N’Kosi Sikeleli (Miriam Makeba, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Paul Simon)

When I taught there, we sang the anthem every morning assembly.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:30:52am
178
austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:33:03am

Earlier Clegg, saw him in an Austin in 1993 or so. Great band!

Youtube Video

Oops, edited.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:34:25am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

It was effective as an earworm. My daughter (then 14) and her best friend played it all the freaking time. Thus it is stuck in my memory.

Something more classic from South Africa: Miriam Makeba.

[Embedded content]

Video

not available.

Is that Pata Pata? I bought the 45 single in 1967.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:35:42am

re: #179 Single-handed sailor

not available.

Is that Pata Pata? I bought the 45 single in 1967.

The Click Song, the Xhosa wedding song

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:36:42am

re: #180 wheat-dogg

The Click Song, the Xhosa wedding song

yes I just found it. different song

182
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:39:31am

Here’s suitable song for the current situation in the USA.

Youtube Video

Lyrics from a YT comment:

Hela Chileshe (hey Chileshe)
Ungaba yeki baku bizi ikirimani (do not let them call you a foreigner)
Nawe ngumuntu (you are also a person)
Uzo hula nini (when will you grow up)
Welele Ngobese (hey Ngobese)
Yeka ukhubiza abanye abantu izilwani-(stop calling other people animals)
Nabo abantu (they are also people)
Uzo funda nini- ( ”when will you white people-or boers- learn”)
Helele mabhulu (you boers)
Yekani ukhubiza abanye abantu amakhafula (Stop calling other people ”spittle”)
Nabo ngabantu (they are people also)
Nizo xaula nini (When are you going to shake hands)

Hela tsotsi (Hey thief)
Yeka ukugwaza abanye abantu nge mimese (Stop stabbing other people with your knives)
Nabo abantu (They too are people)
Uzo khula nini (When are you going to grow up)

Nge nkululeko yethu (this freedom of ours)
Mina kangiboni ( I do not see it)
Ngiboni igazi lethu eliqithwa nge zandla zethu (All I see is our blood being spilled by our hands)
Bambanani hlakanani yekelani uku monalana (Get together, hold hands stop being jealous of each other)
iZizo ziya zihleka (Nations are laughing at us)
Lalelani zino thando (Listen they have love)

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:47:07am

People leaving Uber from the tyre-fire of sexual harassment claims against the company are finding it hard to find other employment.

theguardian.com

At job interviews, the employee said, recruiters seem wary of Uber’s “hustle-oriented” workplace. “They have to defend themselves and say: ‘Oh, I’m not an asshole.’”

The “asshole” reputation stems from Uber’s corporate values, former employees and others in the tech industry said. For many, company “values” are the kind of corporate speak that rarely interferes with one’s day-to-day work environment. But at Uber, the emphasis on hustling, toe-stepping and meritocracy took on a more sinister aspect in the workplace.

“Everyone used those values to excuse their bad behavior,” said the former Uber employee.

The employee described the workplace as a “Hobbesian jungle” where “you can never get ahead unless someone else dies”.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:48:58am

re: #183 Anymouse

People leaving Uber from the tyre-fire of sexual harassment claims against the company are finding it hard to find other employment.

theguardian.com

Sounds a lot like the current administration.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:50:31am

re: #175 Anymouse

Well if we’re going for bad pop song, “Friday” by Rebecca Black certainly weigh in, with over 2,500,000 downvotes on YouTube (the most of any song):

[Embedded content]

Video

Yikes. She’s not bad as a singer, but the song …

186
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:53:14am

Here’s another South African group, from Cape Town. My students in SA loved them.

Springbok Nude Girls - Genie

187
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 12:55:01am
188
austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:01:08am

re: #182 wheat-dogg

Here’s suitable song for the current situation in the USA.

[Embedded content]

Video

Lyrics from a YT comment:

Hela Chileshe (hey Chileshe)
Ungaba yeki baku bizi ikirimani (do not let them call you a foreigner)
Nawe ngumuntu (you are also a person)
Uzo hula nini (when will you grow up)
Welele Ngobese (hey Ngobese)
Yeka ukhubiza abanye abantu izilwani-(stop calling other people animals)
Nabo abantu (they are also people)
Uzo funda nini- ( ”when will you white people-or boers- learn”)
Helele mabhulu (you boers)
Yekani ukhubiza abanye abantu amakhafula (Stop calling other people ”spittle”)
Nabo ngabantu (they are people also)
Nizo xaula nini (When are you going to shake hands)

Hela tsotsi (Hey thief)
Yeka ukugwaza abanye abantu nge mimese (Stop stabbing other people with your knives)
Nabo abantu (They too are people)
Uzo khula nini (When are you going to grow up)

Nge nkululeko yethu (this freedom of ours)
Mina kangiboni ( I do not see it)
Ngiboni igazi lethu eliqithwa nge zandla zethu (All I see is our blood being spilled by our hands)
Bambanani hlakanani yekelani uku monalana (Get together, hold hands stop being jealous of each other)
iZizo ziya zihleka (Nations are laughing at us)
Lalelani zino thando (Listen they have love)

Well, after listening to that and reading that translation I’m going to walk outside and have a smoke…

OK, back now.

Here’s a question for the Lizards who will read the late night posts.

How can we call our country today a functional Democracy when there is so much hate driving our policy?

Where did we go so wrong?

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:04:41am

re: #188 austin_blue

Well, after listening to that and reading that translation I’m going to walk outside and have a smoke…

OK, back now.

Here’s a question for the Lizards who will read the late night posts.

How can we call our country today a functional Democracy when there is so much hate driving our policy?

Where did we go so wrong?

Well, The Economist has downgraded us to a “flawed democracy.”
economist.com

Their scale goes from 9-10 (full democracy) to 0-4 (fully authoritarian). They put the USA now at 7-8, just ahead of Mexico.

The chart is a map of the world with their colour-code for each nation.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:05:15am

re: #187 Anymouse

Another famous earworm.

Oh, Dog it’s a Rickroll!

191
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:05:51am

Back to Jo’burg, for some more kwaito. This guy was a top star in SA, but he developed nasopharyngeal cancer and died aged 38 last September. The tumor had caused him to go blind. On the day he died, he had waited three hours for an ambulance to come to his home in Soweto, and finally his manager came to bring him to hospital. Mandoza died on the way. (timeslive.co.za)

Mandoza - Nkalakatha

Zulu and English lyrics: southafricanlyrics.wordpress.com

192
Kragar  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:05:59am
193
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:06:20am

re: #187 Anymouse

Another famous earworm.

damn you!

194
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:07:12am

re: #190 austin_blue

Oh, Dog it’s a Rickroll!

Hehehe. I’ve never done that to anyone before. (Cross another thing off my bucket list of puerile things to do.)

195
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:08:35am

re: #192 Kragar

Amazing how well those two songs fit together. Hooray for basic chord progressions!

196
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:08:44am

re: #192 Kragar

Okay a Nirvana/Rick Astley mashup is different… .

197
Kragar  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:14:36am

re: #196 Anymouse

What about Rihanna and Elvis?

ELVIS PRESLEY vs RIHANNA - Rude Jailhouse Boy (Gauffie mashup)

198
Kragar  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:15:55am
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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:16:53am

re: #189 Anymouse

Well, The Economist has downgraded us to a “flawed democracy.”
economist.com

Their scale goes from 9-10 (full democracy) to 0-4 (fully authoritarian). They put the USA now at 7-8, just ahead of Mexico.

The chart is a map of the world with their colour-code for each nation.

Yay! We’re Botswana, France, and Bangladesh! So much for American primacy, eh?

200
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:18:49am

Slackpropagation reports on February Album Writing Month (FAWM)

Thirteen years ago, I started a project called FAWM (February Album Writing Month) with a few friends. It was a way to motivate ourselves to make more music. The goal is to write 14 songs in the 28 days of February, much in the same way NaNoWriMo challenges you to write a whole novel in a month. Maybe it’s crappy, maybe it’s not. Don’t overthink it, just do it!

slackprop.wordpress.com

The project has really taken off since he started it. More about it at the link.

201
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:20:56am
202
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:26:29am

On the Russia allegations and the media, GOP, and trolls all navel-gazing (thread):

203
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:30:40am

And more gaslighting:

204
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:32:26am

And yet more gaslighting:

205
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:35:43am

re: #188 austin_blue

Well, after listening to that and reading that translation I’m going to walk outside and have a smoke…

OK, back now.

Here’s a question for the Lizards who will read the late night posts.

How can we call our country today a functional Democracy when there is so much hate driving our policy?

Where did we go so wrong?

I was in South Africa several years after majority rule began, and just after Mandela stepped down and Thabo Mbeki took over. Mbeki was a major step down from Madiba, much as Trump is from Obama, and the patience of the people for progress wore very thin pretty quick. But that’s a different issue.

I knew quite a bit about the apartheid days from following the news, and reading books like Biko, so the atmosphere post-apartheid was really quite a surprise. Mostly everyone was trying very hard to set aside the racial tensions and just get along. My school, and my kids’ schools, were mixed-race and AFAIK there was no problems on campus among whites, blacks and coloreds (that is, Asians and mixed-race people). There seemed to be more tension between English descendants and Afrikaners, to be honest, than between the other ethnic groups. It seemed everyone was following the lead of Mandela, who was the driving force behind the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which avoided harsh sentences for crimes done during apartheid but still held the perpetrators accountable.

It’s been 16 years since I’ve lived there, so I’m not sure how harmonious things are now. I know people were frustrated by the sluggish economy — especially folks in the rural areas — and the broken education system. Petty crimes, like thefts and burglaries, are still a problem, and there are still rare assaults and murders involving the Afrikaner white supremacists and blacks, but nowhere approaching the “white genocide” the alt-right talks about here in the States.

It takes leadership to provide the people a model for their behavior. Mandela was revered by almost everyone, and his forgiving nature inspired South Africans to end the hatred of the past. In the States, however, the national leader has fomented hatred and xenophobia, which has inspired a thankfully small portion of society to commit hate crimes on a variety of people. In response, we have seen Muslims helping fix Jewish cemeteries, Jews offering their synagogues to Muslims, and churches offering sanctuary to Mexicans. There is a lot of love and compassion among Americans, and Trump and his troglodytes will not win, anymore than the Afrikaner apartheid system won. But it will take constant, unrelenting resistance to fight back against him. Start locally and offer help to state and national groups as possible.

We will win.

206
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:42:50am

Instead of gaslighting, this is flat-out lying (or delusion):
Rick Wiles: A Satanic Child-Murdering Cabal Is Leading a Coup Against President Trump (goes to Right Wing Watch, more at the link):

End Times radio broadcaster and unhinged conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles dedicated his radio program yesterday to warning that a secretive pedophile ring is working to destroy President Trump before he can expose their murderous global network.

Wiles said that Trump is “besieged by a slithering cabal of seditious snakes” who are attempting to carry out a coup against against him at the behest of the “perpetual war and pedophilia party that has ruled America since they assassinated John F. Kennedy in 1963.”

207
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:46:50am

Mozilla released a security update for Firefox:
us-cert.gov

Mozilla has released a security update to address multiple vulnerabilities in Firefox. A remote attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system.

Mozilla itself rates the exploit as “critical”:
mozilla.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:50:22am

re: #188 austin_blue

How can we call our country today a functional Democracy when there is so much hate driving our policy?

Where did we go so wrong?

We cannot have a functional democracy until we can agree on objective facts and reality.

I recall this skit from a comic back in the 80’s when a state legislator introduced a bill trying to make it illegal to force students to learn anything that conflicted with their religious beliefs (a veiled attempt to limit teaching of Evolution)

Teacher: Jimmy, what is two times two?
Jimmy: Five!
T: No, Jimmy, it is four.
J: But my dad says two times two is five and the law says you cannot teach me otherwise!
T: But Jimmy, this is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of objective reality!
J: But my dad does not believe in objective reality!!!

And I am afraid that Jimmy has now grown up to become a state legislator himself…

209
austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:56:51am

re: #205 wheat-dogg

I was in South Africa several years after majority rule began, and just after Mandela stepped down and Thabo Mbeki took over. Mbeki was a major step down from Madiba, much as Trump is from Obama, and the patience of the people for progress wore very thin pretty quick. But that’s a different issue.

I knew quite a bit about the apartheid days from following the news, and reading books like Biko, so the atmosphere post-apartheid was really quite a surprise. Mostly everyone was trying very hard to set aside the racial tensions and just get along. My school, and my kids’ schools, were mixed-race and AFAIK there was no problems on campus among whites, blacks and coloreds (that is, Asians and mixed-race people). There seemed to be more tension between English descendants and Afrikaners, to be honest, than between the other ethnic groups. It seemed everyone was following the lead of Mandela, who was the driving force behind the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which avoided harsh sentences for crimes done during apartheid but still held the perpetrators accountable.

It’s been 16 years since I’ve lived there, so I’m not sure how harmonious things are now. I know people were frustrated by the sluggish economy — especially folks in the rural areas — and the broken education system. Petty crimes, like thefts and burglaries, are still a problem, and there are still rare assaults and murders involving the Afrikaner white supremacists and blacks, but nowhere approaching the “white genocide” the alt-right talks about here in the States.

It takes leadership to provide the people a model for their behavior. Mandela was revered by almost everyone, and his forgiving nature inspired South Africans to end the hatred of the past. In the States, however, the national leader has fomented hatred and xenophobia, which has inspired a thankfully small portion of society to commit hate crimes on a variety of people. In response, we have seen Muslims helping fix Jewish cemeteries, Jews offering their synagogues to Muslims, and churches offering sanctuary to Mexicans. There is a lot of love and compassion among Americans, and Trump and his troglodytes will not win, anymore than the Afrikaner apartheid system won. But it will take constant, unrelenting resistance to fight back against him. Start locally and offer help to state and national groups as possible.

We will win.

Well here’s a paean to Biko:

Peter Gabriel - Biko

Peter Gabriel - Biko

210
wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:58:33am

Trump’s inability to understand complex issues like foreign policy has me very worried, given my current location.

Case in point:

theguardian.com

The United States and North Korea are racing towards a catastrophic “head-on collision”, China’s foreign minister has warned, amid Chinese fury at America’s deployment of a controversial anti-missile system.

Speaking in Beijing on Wednesday, Wang Yi said a “looming crisis” was brewing on the Korean peninsula.

Wang scolded Pyongyang for ignoring international opposition to its nuclear and missile programs but also accused the US of stoking regional tensions by holding “military exercises of enormous scale” with South Korea.

“The two sides are like two accelerating trains coming towards each other with neither side willing to give way. The question is: are the two sides really ready for a head-on collision?” Wang told reporters, painting China as a signalman attempting avert the disaster.

211
freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 1:59:24am

re: #188 austin_blue

How can we call our country today a functional Democracy when there is so much hate driving our policy?

Where did we go so wrong?

If one asked that in, say, 1861, the people listening to you would probably have a funny look on their faces.

What we call a “functional Democracy” today is a fairly recent invention. Indeed, in this country it wasn’t until the 1960’s that we got really serious in making sure everyone was vested in the elections.

We’re still struggling to throw off the shackles of patriarchy and slavery.

212
Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:03:23am

“Across state lines” is a phrase used by american dummies that have no thinking skills. It doesn’t pay to attempt to understand it, there is nothing to understand. It is something a moron says to other morons and then they all bobble their heads up and down and blame liberals. Quite pathetic really.

213
Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:06:14am

Another one is “tort reform”. I have told many, many wingnuts that Wisconsin already has tort reform. They don’t care what is true or not, they are all masters of the universe in their own minds.

214
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:07:27am

re: #212 Amory Blaine

“Across state lines” is a phrase used by american dummies that have no thinking skills. It doesn’t pay to attempt to understand it, there is nothing to understand. It is something a moron says to other morons and then they all bobble their heads up and down and blame liberals. Quite pathetic really.

See also:
Deep state
neo-liberal

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:09:07am

re: #213 Amory Blaine

Another one is “tort reform”. I have told many, many wingnuts that Wisconsin already has tort reform. They don’t care what is true or not, they are all masters of the universe in their own minds.

Tort reform: the freedom to be shut out from a just payment for damages, or
the freedom to enter into binding arbitration with a multi-national corporation to ensure the same, or
the freedom to be prohibited from entering into a class-action suit with like plaintiffs.

216
freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:09:29am

re: #212 Amory Blaine

“Across state lines”

We must remember that the wingnuts are living in an 18th century fantasy, and to them there is magic in each colony state.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:10:26am

If you are such a shitty doctor you are getting sued a lot, maybe you should pick strawberries instead.

218
Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:11:16am

re: #216 freetoken

We must remember that the wingnuts are living in an 18th century fantasy, and to them there is magic in each colony state.

“Meth labs of democracy.”

“School choice” is another one, though rural people generally oppose that when explained to them.

That is the choice to have our schools gutted so private religious or commercial schools in cities can get money that would go to our students.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:11:55am

re: #211 freetoken

If one asked that in, say, 1861, the people listening to you would probably have a funny look on their faces.

What we call a “functional Democracy” today is a fairly recent invention. Indeed, in this country it wasn’t until the 1960’s that we got really serious in making sure everyone was vested in the elections.

We’re still struggling to throw off the shackles of patriarchy and slavery.

Well, Dog dammit, that is a cogent point and absolutely germane. Given that it is obviously true, the next question is: What are the forces that are trying to reverse 50 years of anti-rasicsm?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:13:22am

“Personal Freedom”

The right for individuals and families with limited incomes and assets to negotiate one-to-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services.

221
Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:14:39am

The first stop for a rising capitalist, besides stepping on the necks of the people that actually make him the money is to buy himself a castle, because american patriots love them some monarchy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:14:43am

re: #219 austin_blue

Well, Dog dammit, that is a cogent point and absolutely germane. Given that it is obviously true, the next question is: What are the forces that are trying to reverse 50 years of anti-rasicsm?

The same ones who have been at it for the past 50 years. They now see this is their last great chance. Their strategy paid off: motivate the base, suppress non-base voters and roll back as much of the New Deal and the Civil Rights Act as they can get away with.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:16:41am

re: #219 austin_blue

Cultural viscosity.

That’s the phrase that comes to mind.

Perhaps I’ve mixed apples and oranges, or sociology and physics, but there is much to the resilience to change that any culture embodies.

The mediator of this resilience in American culture is much to do with religion, and perhaps a bit less to do with money.

I’m afraid to say, as I’m now entering my “golden years”, that as we age we don’t want to change.

As I noted last night and Trump winning Florida, there is a very strong correlation between Trump support and age.

And that is true on my Facebook timeline as well.

224
austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:16:56am

Oh, here’s another Gabriel tune:

my heart is going boom boom boom

Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

another is going to follow

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:22:24am

re: #224 austin_blue

Oh, here’s another Gabriel tune:

my heart is going boom boom boom

another is going to follow

keep ‘em coming…I used to love Genesis when he was still with them.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:22:44am

re: #224 austin_blue

Oh yeah. Been a while since I heard that one. Related for the aspiring guitar lizards, I’ve been using this Asturias (by Isaac Albéniz) tab to work on triplets and 16th notes. This will kick your ass!!

tabs.ultimate-guitar.com

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:23:01am

Since we’ve got two songs on the theme of boom boom boom, here’s another boom song.

The Fault In Our Stars - Charli XCX - Boom Clap

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:23:07am

Right Wing Watch has been busy recently:
rightwingwatch.org
The Rise of the Traditionalist International: How the American Right Learned to Love Moscow in the Era of Trump.

The tl:dr version - the combination of Christians (especially Evangelicals but not limited to them), Ku Klux Klansmen, and outright Nazis would naturally gravitate to a murderous ex-KGB agent now in charge of Russia - because he explicitly set up his country to appeal to them.

Everything from weakening Russia’s separation of Church and State and harassing the LGBT (appealing to a wide array of Christian groups, not all of them Dominionists) to presenting his country as the “Last Great White Hope” (attracting the racists), to projection of power in such things as annexing Crimea and parts of Georgia (attracting the Nazis), means it was inevitable these groups would gravitate toward Putin, and because these groups make up a large portion of the Republican base, a large number of Republican politicians are following right along,

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:24:55am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Personal Freedom”

The right for individuals and families with limited incomes and assets to negotiate one-to-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services.

“Socialism” - about anything the wingnut wants it to mean except actual socialism.

There are some conservatives that still understand the correct meaning of the term though (which is one reason I maintain my seat on my village board).

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:27:26am

Bringing Kate Bush into the conversation…

Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush -Don’t Give Up

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:28:54am

re: #229 Anymouse

“Socialism” - about anything the wingnut wants it to mean except actual socialism.

There are some conservatives that still understand the correct meaning of the term though (which is one reason I maintain my seat on my village board).

Funny that when investors pool their resources into a corporation to optimize their investments, that is lauded as the very heart and soul of capitalism, but when employees or consumers pool their bargaining rights into a union to optimize wages and benefits, that is somehow frowned upon…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:30:25am

re: #228 Anymouse

The Rise of the Traditionalist International: How the American Right Learned to Love Moscow in the Era of Trump.

The tl:dr version - the combination of Christians (especially Evangelicals but not limited to them), Ku Klux Klansmen, and outright Nazis would naturally gravitate to a murderous ex-KGB agent now in charge of Russia - because he explicitly set up his country to appeal to them.

Basically, it will come down to the notion that lying about Russia is not perjury just like getting a blow job from a bimbo is not cheating on your wife…

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:31:24am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Basically, it will come down to the notion that lying about Russia is not perjury just like getting a blow job from a bimbo is not cheating on your wife…

TMI - My wife just asked “what if the bimbo is me?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:32:00am

re: #233 Anymouse

TMI - My wife just asked “what if the bimbo is me?”

best of both worlds…

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The Dude Abides  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:32:45am

re: #230 austin_blue

Bringing Kate Bush into the conversation…

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How about a Peter and Sinead collaboration, with a side of Daniel Lanois?

Peter Gabriel - Blood of eden with lyrics

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:33:06am

Every mark for the likes of Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, and so on are easy pickin’s for Trump.

And America is full of them.

This was rather obvious and quickly noted:

time.com

But it remains true today.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:33:48am

Now I have an earworm for my favourite Kate Bush song.

Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights - Official Music Video - Version 1

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:35:11am

That so much of America is full of such marks go back to our past.

America’s past is full of religious fanaticism. Something perhaps the contemporary youth are not taught.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:37:48am

No, I think I’ll post this one for Anymouse:

Army Dreamers - Kate Bush LYRICS

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:38:54am

re: #238 freetoken

That so much of America is full of such marks go back to our past.

America’s past is full of religious fanaticism. Something perhaps the contemporary youth are not taught.

Because we are still taught that the Pilgrims came here to practice religious freedom. They came here to escape religious tolerance in Europe and be free to practice religious oppression.

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The Dude Abides  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:41:21am

re: #239 austin_blue

No, I think I’ll post this one for Anymouse:

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That is one of my two favorites from Kate, the other being this profoundly sad one:

Kate Bush - Never Be Mine + lyrics

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:43:38am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we are still taught that the Pilgrims came here to practice religious freedom. They came here to escape religious tolerance in Europe and be free to practice religious oppression.

Yup. Even to the point when there was a smallpox outbreak in Boston and the provincial governor tried to impose mandatory inoculation (the only known method of immunisation against the disease at the time), the Congregational Church (Puritans) opposed it on the grounds of “God’s Will.”

Fun Fact: Cotton Mather, famed witch trial leader, also experimented in the field which would eventually become genetics, by studying blue and yellow corn. He essentially described blue corn as a genetic recessive (though he didn’t use that term), after planting corn plots upwind of each other so they would cross-pollinate, then observed the results.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:46:56am

re: #223 freetoken

Cultural viscosity.

That’s the phrase that comes to mind.

Perhaps I’ve mixed apples and oranges, or sociology and physics, but there is much to the resilience to change that any culture embodies.

The mediator of this resilience in American culture is much to do with religion, and perhaps a bit less to do with money.

I’m afraid to say, as I’m now entering my “golden years”, that as we age we don’t want to change.

As I noted last night and Trump winning Florida, there is a very strong correlation between Trump support and age.

And that is true on my Facebook timeline as well.

Greater minds than I have struggled with Americans’ “viscosity of culture,” but I’d list the following causes:

1. Latent anti-intellectualism
2. The rise of Biblical literalism as a feature of Christianity (a subset of #1)
3. Slavery, which took a war to abolish
4. The 19th century belief (shared by the British Empire and others) that white people were the shiznit, and their duty was to “civilize” everyone else
5. The belief that capitalism was the answer to all ills, and socialism was the cause of all ills
6. The relative homogeneity of the US population, aside from city folk

These are no special order, but the first two enable the others to take hold of people’s minds, especially if some charismatic character tells them the right things to believe.

We really have not changed much as a nation since Dickens and de Tocqueville visited the USA in the 1800s. It’s the same mix of optimism and obstinacy those two writers found in their journeys.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:49:16am

re: #243 wheat-dogg

On latent anti-intellectualism, I would argue it was never latent. It has always been overt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:49:20am

re: #243 wheat-dogg

Greater minds than I have struggled with Americans’ “viscosity of culture,” but I’d list the following causes:

1. Latent anti-intellectualism
2. The rise of Biblical literalism as a feature of Christianity (a subset of #1)

“It’s not cool not to know what you are talking about”

-Barack Obama

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:54:44am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“It’s not cool not to know what you are talking about”

-Barack Obama

“Hold my beer.” - Donald Trump

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:57:11am

re: #241 The Dude Abides

That is one of my two favorites from Kate, the other being this profoundly sad one:

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Video

And yet, it is a woman making her own decision. Proper for her to do so. Her life, her choice. Lovely song.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:57:16am

re: #246 Anymouse

“Hold my beer.” - Donald Trump

“I know what I am talking about. Nobody knows what he is talking about better than me. I have the best talking. Believe me.”

and they did…or at least enough of them in enough key states to guarantee an EC majority…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 2:58:54am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we are still taught that the Pilgrims came here to practice religious freedom. They came here to escape religious tolerance in Europe and be free to practice religious oppression.

I didn’t learn about that aspect of the Pilgrims and the Massachusetts Bay Colony until I studied colonial history beginning in high school. They kicked out Roger Williams (Baptists) and killed several Quakers who kept coming back to witness to the Congregationalists.

Two of the motivations for the freedom of religion clause in the First Amendment were the awful experiences of religious conflict and oppression in Europe, and the diversity of religions in the Colonies. The USA has no state religion largely because it never had one during the colonial period. Massachusetts was Congregationalist, Rhode Island Baptist, NY Dutch Reformed and Presbyterian, NJ and Pennsylvania Quaker, Maryland Catholic, and so on. The modern wingnuts who call the USA a Christian Nation gloss over the sectarian nature of the colonial period. Maryland would not have ratified a Constitution that made Anglicanism the State Religion any more than Massachusetts would have agreed to Catholicism.

Plus, many of the founders were Deists or perhaps even agnostic in their beliefs. They were for sure not going to establish a State Religion that would have excluded them.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:00:56am

re: #246 Anymouse

“Hold my beer.” - Donald Trump

Trump is a shining example of my #1. He’s just like the people who voted for him: obstinately ignorant and dead sure that his brain provides all the right answers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:01:08am

re: #244 Anymouse

On latent anti-intellectualism, I would argue it was never latent. It has always been overt.

Some of it must stem from a sense of cultural and technical inferiority with regard to Europe…we felt that our intellectual backwardness was an outward sign of our our moral superiority over those effete, decadent Euroweenies.

We started to shake that off when we got into the arms and space race with the USSR in the 50’s and 60’s but seem to have fallen back into the notion that education only counts as vocational training.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:01:52am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I know what I am talking about. Nobody knows what he is talking about better than me. I have the best talking. Believe me.”

and they did…or at least enough of them in enough states to guarantee an EC majority…

It actually hurts me to see how many of the people in my state swallowed the swill Mr. Trump was serving up during his campaign about “bringing jobs back” and “making America great again.” (At least in this area, there was little or no coverage of his overtly racist remarks or violent rallies.) Thirty years of Republican attacks against the Clinton family were dug up again and spread around the local press - despite the claims being false.

I firmly believe electing a guinea pig would have been a better choice (and likely had better hair). A lonely leftist in the middle of nowhere could not prevail against the mountain of bullshit our local media was pumping out.

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Ming5000  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:02:55am

Not going to link, but this is showing up in Memeorandum:
Matthew Boyle / Breitbart:
Sean Spicer Inaccurately Claims Paul Ryan’s Health Care Bill ‘Fully’ Repeals Obamacare

What does this even mean? Is Breitbart slamming Spicer for telling a lie, or is he being slammed for saying the ACA is repealed? I thought the R base wanted repeal, so why highlight that this is not a repeal?
Breitbart is also pinning the AHCA on Ryan. Bannon must want some distance between Trump and the AHCA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:04:31am

re: #253 Ming5000

Not going to link, but this is showing up in Memeorandum:
Matthew Boyle / Breitbart:
Sean Spicer Inaccurately Claims Paul Ryan’s Health Care Bill ‘Fully’ Repeals Obamacare

What does this even mean? Is Breitbart slamming Spicer for telling a lie, or is he being slammed for saying the ACA is repealed? I thought the R base wanted repeal, so why highlight that this is not a repeal?
Breitbart is also pinning the AHCA on Ryan. Bannon must want some distance between Trump and the AHCA.

They want to be in a position to put the blame on somebody else…

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:04:33am

Okay, one last Kate Bush song, her most terrifying. A fetus has to deal with a nuclear attack:

Kate Bush - Breathing

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:06:09am

re: #253 Ming5000

Not going to link, but this is showing up in Memeorandum:
Matthew Boyle / Breitbart:
Sean Spicer Inaccurately Claims Paul Ryan’s Health Care Bill ‘Fully’ Repeals Obamacare

What does this even mean? Is Breitbart slamming Spicer for telling a lie, or is he being slammed for saying the ACA is repealed? I thought the R base wanted repeal, so why highlight that this is not a repeal?
Breitbart is also pinning the AHCA on Ryan. Bannon must want some distance between Trump and the AHCA.

See also their top article: FreedomWorks Opposes Speaker Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0 Plan. (Also not linking to Deadbart’s top article at the moment.)

Deadbart simply wants repeal and no replace. They are trying to separate Trump from Ryan and the other House Republicans (which as “the establishment” Deadbart and President Bannon oppose).

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:07:21am

re: #255 austin_blue

Okay, one last Kate Bush song, her most terrifying. A fetus has to deal with a nuclear attack:

Kate Bush channelling Miss Cleo?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:08:01am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some of it must stem from a sense of cultural and technical inferiority with regard to Europe…we felt that our intellectual backwardness was an outward sign of our our moral superiority over those effete, decadent Euroweenies.

We started to shake that off when we got into the arms and space race with the USSR in the 50’s and 60’s but seem to have fallen back into the notion that education only counts as vocational training.

I’ve noticed that many Chinese have the same notion. A university degree is solely for the purpose of obtaining a good job, so serious study for the sake of intellectual improvement is not rewarded or highly regarded. In addition, the top-down nature of education in China (from the Party) actively discourages divergent thinking and critical thinking. As a college teacher, I find in endlessly frustrating to have a majority of students who only see their classes as a boring stepping stone toward a Job After Graduation, and not as a useful intellectual exercise in and of themselves.

In their defense, most of their classes ARE boring, because there is little incentive for teachers to be creative in educating their students.

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Ming5000  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:09:02am

re: #12 Pawn of the Oppressor

Um, Bill, “subversion” isn’t a crime, except in China…

Good point. If subversion were a crime, who better to be charged than Trump, Fox News, the GOP……

sub*ver*sion
səbˈvərZH(ə)n,səbˈvərSH(ə)n/
noun
the undermining of the power and authority of an established system or institution.
“the ruthless subversion of democracy”

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:09:45am

re: #258 wheat-dogg

It’s that economic-function primacy of “education” why I dislike so many of the “STEM” pushes.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:10:46am

re: #258 wheat-dogg

I’ve noticed that many Chinese have the same notion. A university degree is solely for the purpose of obtaining a good job, so serious study for the sake of intellectual improvement is not rewarded or highly regarded. In addition, the top-down nature of education in China (from the Party) actively discourages divergent thinking and critical thinking. As a college teacher, I find in endlessly frustrating to have a majority of students who only see their classes as a boring stepping stone toward a Job After Graduation, and not as a useful intellectual exercise in and of themselves.

In their defense, most of their classes ARE boring, because there is little incentive for teachers to be creative in educating their students.

Note the Texas GOP trying to put a plank in their party platform opposing teaching critical thinking to students - allegedly it undermines parental authority (but conveniently allows a person to think about conservative positions).

The paths might be different (Republican conservatives, Chinese communists), but authoritarianism really doesn’t give a hoot what “ideology” it uses to arise to/maintain power. Power is the goal, not the ideology.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:11:32am

re: #259 Ming5000

Good point. If subversion were a crime, who better to be charged than Trump, Fox News, the GOP……

In a narrow sense subversion is a crime (sedition).

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:12:49am
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Ming5000  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:13:23am

re: #262 Anymouse

Huh… interesting….

se*di*tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
synonyms: rabble-rousing, incitement to rebel, subversion, troublemaking, provocation;

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:17:48am

Rick Saccone announced his bid to run against Democratic Senator Bob Casey (Penna.) next year.

Amongst other things, he claimed “God wants Christians to rule over us.”

rightwingwatch.org

(Waiting to see which Christian churches stand up to that statement. I’m betting none.)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:24:34am

re: #260 freetoken

It’s that economic-function primacy of “education” why I dislike so many of the “STEM” pushes.

I’m conflicted by the push for STEM initiatives, because I was a science teacher for two decades. There is a real need for adequate science and math instruction in the public schools, but targeting those areas at the expense of subjects like art, music and drama is wrong. Every kids should be exposed to a variety of subjects, but expecting specially funded STEM programs to create a large cohort of future science, tech and math geniuses is wishful thinking.

There was a similar push in education following Sputnik, and I was probably one of the beneficiaries of that earlier STEM initiative. My science and math classes in junior and senior high were mostly very good*. We had ample equipment and trained teachers who knew how to use it. My physics teacher taught us BASIC so we could do data analysis on our labs with the school’s PDP-8, and a math teacher taught us formal logic (p —> q, for example).

* My high school chem experience, however, was a bust. Though it was an honors class, our teacher had read Teaching as a Subversive Activity over the summer, and he decided the best way for us to learn chemistry was to teach it to ourselves, with him as a guide. Holy crapola! Many of us were freaking out, because we wanted good marks on the NY Regents exams, so we appealed to another chem teacher to help us out. She was very understanding.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:26:16am

Off-topic: I accidentally saved an “upvote” button from here as a shortcut to my desktop.

Not sure how I did that, and it is entirely unhelpful - off to the trash bin with that. (It will probably take my whole operating system with it or something.)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:27:52am

re: #267 Anymouse

Off-topic: I accidentally saved an “upvote” button from here as a shortcut to my desktop.

Not sure how I did that, and it is entirely unhelpful - off to the trash bin with that. (It will probably take my whole operating system with it or something.)

I think that’s mentioned in the CIA Vault 7 data dump. IIRC it would shut down most of the electrical grid in Manitoba.
/

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Ming5000  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:31:43am

We are living on Mars and LGF is a tiny biodome.
WTF is THIS? I read this commentary from Amber Phillips, Washington Post:

The sorry state of political discourse right now, in five Bernie Sanders tweets

A prominent U.S. senator just described the president of the United States as a frequent and “shameless” liar, a claim that for reasons I’ll explain is difficult to prove. What’s more, what Sanders said about President Trump is one of a bazillion hefty criticisms that Democrats have lobbed and will lob at the president this week alone.

I could not pick up from a quick google that Phillips was a right winger nut job. If one were to feel that discourse were taking a downturn, how could you possibly focus on the Democrats?

Democrats are blocking Trump in historic ways, like stalling committee hearings for key Cabinet posts or threatening to filibuster his Supreme Court nominee.

The Democrat messaging machine still is not working. Unless you are plugged into this stuff like LGFers there is little chance to get a balanced message.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:33:39am

re: #269 Ming5000

Democrats are blocking Trump in historic ways, like stalling committee hearings for key Cabinet posts or threatening to filibuster his Supreme Court nominee.

Ohmigod, what sort of party would do such a thing?

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:37:02am

re: #269 Ming5000

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that’s in a newspaper in a city that definitely leans toward the Democrats.

Imagine living here.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:37:28am

re: #269 Ming5000

It’s an obvious political piece by a political hack.

WaPo is in the business of making money, and they do that by getting eyes on product, and wingnut eyes are still eyes as far as internet metrics are concerned.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:38:36am

I do agree that the Democratic messaging machine needs to be more on-target, for specific groups of Americans.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:39:01am

Installing Oracle VM Virtual Box, so if I get bumped off-line you’ll know where I went (computer hell).

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:41:13am

Photo gallery: Woman at work around the world

theguardian.com

The French soldier looks bad-ass. I wouldn’t want to piss her off.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:42:21am

re: #266 wheat-dogg

One reason I dislike “STEM” is the very acronym.

S and M are different than E and M.

Science and Math ought to be with the Humanities. They are humanities, in the sense historically and culturally the goal within their own undertaking is to expand human knowledge.

Engineering and Technology (though I think that is redundant) is about applications of knowledge for human activity (which we might as well call economic activity.)

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:44:30am

We’ve commented on Amber Phillips here before… but I can’t recall exactly what the topic was.

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Ming5000  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:44:58am

There is a lot of “Give Trump a chance” sentiment out there. The clueless people who voted for Trump despite all the evidence available about his character, plans, acumen, etc., are the same ones who feel the ‘establishment’ is piling on unfairly.

Like many have said on LGF, what is it going to take to wake people up?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:47:43am

re: #278 Ming5000

There is a lot of “Give Trump a chance” sentiment out there. The clueless people who voted for Trump despite all the evidence available about his character, plans, acumen, etc., are the same ones who feel the ‘establishment’ is piling on unfairly.

Like many have said on LGF, what is it going to take to wake people up?

A major catastrophe that even the rest of his party cannot cover up or shrug off.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:48:27am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A major catastrophe that even the rest of his party cannot cover up or shrug off.

Or as I put it, until “something breaks”.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:50:20am

Well did Drago Museveni describe Trump:

“The soul of the Nietzschean is this:
We are arrogant. We are vain.
We are manipulative. We are selfish.
And we love our children.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:50:50am

re: #280 freetoken

Or as I put it, until “something breaks”.

Lots of possibilities there: Ukraine, North Korea, some famous person getting stopped at the border by idiot CBP officers.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:54:17am

re: #278 Ming5000

There is a lot of “Give Trump a chance” sentiment out there. The clueless people who voted for Trump despite all the evidence available about his character, plans, acumen, etc., are the same ones who feel the ‘establishment’ is piling on unfairly.

Like many have said on LGF, what is it going to take to wake people up?

That, and a lot of those that voted for him (at least in this area) are just like the folk in Germany when Hitler ran for office. They don’t “really believe” he meant what he said about (immigrants, refugees, Gold Star Families, Mexicans, &c) - he just said what he needed to get elected.

That’s why when I put to my village attorney at the last board meeting “what happens to me if Sen. Mike Lee’s and Rep. Steve King’s bills to strip birthright citizenship go through” his answer was “they won’t be able to succeed with that.”

Never mind the GOP has been copulating that chicken all my life, and he is in the GOP.

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Fineday  Mar 8, 2017 • 3:54:54am

Uh, fellow lizards, the claim that the hacking of the DNC actually was a false flag opration carried out by the CIA to make the World think that the Russians interfered with the US election is now on Breitbart Link

That means that Trump will probably start tweeting about it in a day or two.

If you choose to follow the link do not read the comments unless you are wearing a hazmat suit. Yikes! I only read the first few of them, and now I need to decontaminate.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:00:20am

re: #284 Fineday

Uh, fellow lizards, the claim that the hacking of the DNC actually was a false flag opration carried out by the CIA to make the World think that the Russians interfered with the US election is now on Breitbart Link

That means that Trump will probably start tweeting about it in a day or two.

If you choose to follow the link do not read the comments unless you are wearing a hazmat suit. Yikes! I only read the first few of them, and now I need to decontaminate.

Your link is structured incorrectly (you left the colon out).

The article is bad enough. The comments don’t show up in my browser (probably for the best).

Wingnuts used to despise Wikileaks (particularly when they published the Collateral Murder video showing the Army killing Iraqi civilians and Reuters news journalists).

Funny how fast they forget where they stood only a couple years ago.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:02:09am

re: #281 freetoken

Well did Drago Museveni describe Trump:

Hey, an Andromeda fan!

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:02:11am

Comment on Wonkette:

Satan must be quite embarrassed the he lost the primary election to that Trump douchebag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:02:25am

re: #285 Anymouse

Wingnuts have the ability to forget where they stood only a couple of minutes ago.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:03:16am
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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:04:34am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wingnuts have the ability to forget where they stood only a couple of minutes Tweets ago.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:05:20am

re: #286 Timothy Watson

Hey, an Andromeda fan!

It had its moments. Kevin Sorbo was a bit too much, though (and in his after life as a wingnut, even more unbearable.)

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:05:23am

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I see Mr. Trump is up … probably time for me to get to bed soon.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:09:15am

re: #291 freetoken

It had its moments. Kevin Sorbo was a bit too much, though (and in his after life as a wingnut, even more unbearable.)

Yeah, first two seasons were alright, even season three had a couple good episodes, I couldn’t even hate-watch the fourth.

I’ve compared tea party supporters to the Nietzscheans before but I think most people didn’t get the reference. :)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:11:26am

re: #294 Timothy Watson

Yeah, first two seasons were alright, even season three had a couple good episodes, I couldn’t even hate-watch the fourth.

I’ve compared tea party supporters to the Nietzscheans before but I think most people didn’t get the reference. :)

I’ve been following @LexaDoig on Twitter. She is not a wingnut.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:12:04am

re: #294 Timothy Watson

Yeah, first two seasons were alright, even season three had a couple good episodes, I couldn’t even hate-watch the fourth.

I’ve compared tea party supporters to the Nietzscheans before but I think most people didn’t get the reference. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:14:47am

re: #296 Anymouse

Imagine the day some GOP leader looks at his grandkids & says, “I did great things in my time. I threw 22 million ppl off their insurance.”

I gave them Freedom of Choice!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:18:42am

re: #295 wheat-dogg

I’ve been following @LexaDoig on Twitter. She is not a wingnut.

Neither is her husband, @MichaelShanks, who she first met when he guess starred on a couple episodes. I can see why they got together, they had great chemistry on the show.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:22:12am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:24:28am

re: #298 Timothy Watson

Neither is her husband, @MichaelShanks, who she first met when he guess starred on a couple episodes. I can see why they got together, they had great chemistry on the show.

Shanks went on to do Stargate SG-1. I bet their kids are gorgeous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:26:59am

re: #299 Anymouse

“So President Trump’s Twitter statement shouldn’t be taken at face value?”

“Sure it should. Of course it should. No.”

The President reserves the right to retroactively alter or correct any statement that he makes.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:28:22am

re: #299 Anymouse

I don’t understand why Spicer remains at his post. Trying to explain to rational people the rantings of his boss is going to drive him crazy, too. It’d be best he get out now, before the ship sinks.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:29:13am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The President reserves the right to retroactively alter or correct any statement that he makes.

The President is infallible.

Next question?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:31:17am

re: #303 wheat-dogg

The President is infallible.

Next question?

Don’t listen to or read his words, learn to see what is in his heart.

Remember that famous Kellyanne dodge?

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:31:25am

re: #302 wheat-dogg

I don’t understand why Spicer remains at his post. Trying to explain to rational people the rantings of his boss is going to drive him crazy, too. It’d be best he get out now, before the ship sinks.

I’m guessing because Baghdad Sean doesn’t think it’s going to sink (much like Baghdad Bob).

And considering the GOP in the House and Senate, he might be reasonably assured of his position.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:40:21am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:40:59am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t listen to or read his words, learn to see what is in his heart.

Remember that famous Kellyanne dodge?

Yeah. Like we’re supposed to able to see into the heart of a pathological liar.

In fact, the best way to deal with Trump’s accusations is to assume whatever he accuses someone else of doing he has done himself, and for all other statements assume he means the direct opposite of what he has just said.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:45:44am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

Yeah. Like we’re supposed to able to see into the heart of a pathological liar.

In fact, the best way to deal with Trump’s accusations is to assume whatever he accuses someone else of doing he has done himself, and for all other statements assume he means the direct opposite of what he has just said.

I haven’t seen very many Republicans where you can’t apply the DARVO principle.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:48:12am

The Guardian has lots of great stories like this one, about female motorcyclists in India.
I might just have to send the news agency some money.

theguardian.com

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:50:45am

re: #308 Anymouse

I haven’t seen very many Republicans where you can’t apply the DARVO principle.

Has anyone ever done a comparison by political party of scandals, whether they be sexual, political, or financial? Off the top of my head, I think the Republicans/conservatives would outnumber the Democrats/liberals, at least in the last 50-60 years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:52:06am

re: #310 wheat-dogg

Has anyone ever done a comparison by political party of scandals, whether they be sexual, political, or financial? Off the top of my head, I think the Republicans/conservatives would outnumber the Democrats/liberals, at least in the last 50-60 years.

“scandal” is a subjective notion at best…it is whatever can be sold as a “scandal”…

and Trump rewrote the rules on that during his campaign.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:54:34am

re: #289 Charles Johnson

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Unless they get old and/or gain weight.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 4:55:44am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“scandal” is a subjective notion at best…it is whatever can be sold as a “scandal”…

and Trump rewrote the rules on that during his campaign.

OK, scandals leading toward criminal charges and convictions. or resignations.

With Trump, it seems no scandal can be serious enough to remove him from office. He’s more Teflon than Saint Ronnie.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:00:11am

re: #310 wheat-dogg

Has anyone ever done a comparison by political party of scandals, whether they be sexual, political, or financial? Off the top of my head, I think the Republicans/conservatives would outnumber the Democrats/liberals, at least in the last 50-60 years.

Well, let’s see:

I was born at the tail end of the Eisenhower Administration. As far as I am aware, there are no major scandals associated with him.

Kennedy: Claims of infidelity with Marilyn Monroe - Bay of Pigs
Johnson: Gulf of Tonkin incident to escalate the Vietnam War
Nixon: Need we go on here?
Ford: Really wasn’t in office long enough - pardoned Nixon
Carter: Failure of Iran hostage mission
Reagan: Most administration members ever indicted/jailed
George HW Bush: No scandals per se / Panama invasion
Bill Clinton: Made up crap about Whitewater / Monica Lewinsky
George W Bush: Iraq WMDs / Katrina
Barack Obama: None I can think of other than made up GOP crap (took all our guns, &c)
Donald Trump: Probably more than every president since John Adams already / Russian agent

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:11:03am

Your forgot Reagan and Bush Sr. with their involvement in Iran-Contra

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:13:47am

My local paper today in its Nation/World section:

Nothing on Trump except the call to “honour women.”
Wikileaks document dump: Is it safe? (A whole lot of description about what it allegedly contains and not much else).

starherald.com

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:14:17am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Your forgot Reagan and Bush Sr. with their involvement in Iran-Contra

I did. Sorry. I also left out 9/11 on Bush Jr.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:15:05am

re: #175 Anymouse

Well if we’re going for bad pop song, “Friday” by Rebecca Black certainly weigh in, with over 2,500,000 downvotes on YouTube (the most of any song):

Video

That is beyond bad and heading into zombie apocalypse horrid. What engineer needs to be shot for recording that monstrosity?

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:15:06am

re: #12 Pawn of the Oppressor

Um, Bill, “subversion” isn’t a crime, except in China…

Isn’t Subversion one type of software?

//

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Timothy Watson  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:15:32am

re: #316 Anymouse

My local paper today in its Nation/World section:

Nothing on Trump except the call to “honour women.”
Wikileaks document dump: Is it safe? (A whole lot of description about what it allegedly contains and not much else).

starherald.com

“honour”? Do you have a stray Brit writing for your paper?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:15:59am

re: #317 Anymouse

I did. Sorry. I also left out 9/11 on Bush Jr.

What about Congress-critters? Quite a few there.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:18:00am

Quick question looking for a quick answer. If you can answer off the top of your head.

In taxes and subsidies, how much does average shmoe who’s family earns $150K actually pay into ACA? I guess over and above “normal” medicare/Medicaid deduction?

I got another page looking…..

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:19:39am

So I’m just catching up and catching my breath. The GOP leadership introduced Ryancare with the intent of voting on it 48 hours after introduction…and they made no effort to ensure that they had the votes to actually pass it? They’re going to be begging Democrats to support it?

Good God, Paul may have a shorter stint with the gavel than John of Orange did.

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jeffreyw  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:20:12am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:20:19am

re: #320 Timothy Watson

“honour”? Do you have a stray Brit writing for your paper?

No that’s my computer set for Canadian English, as the firm I do book editing for is located in British Columbia.

It auto-corrects to Canadian English and I don’t bother to correct it.

Perhaps if my computer is searched in Canada for something they’ll think I belong there and let me stay. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:23:05am

There is no ” you” in honor!

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:23:14am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

What about Congress-critters? Quite a few there.

Fellow travellers.

Consider Bill Clinton’s impeachment, with those dragging up salacious arguments against Bill Clinton being guilty of the same thing or worse.

Bashing on the Clintons’s marriage. (Funny, I thought the social conservatives were in favour of preserving marriages where possible. It seems like they’ve been trying to drive a wedge in theirs for thirty years now.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:24:55am

re: #327 Anymouse

Fellow travellers.

Consider Bill Clinton’s impeachment, with those dragging up salacious arguments against Bill Clinton being guilty of the same thing or worse.

Bashing on the Clintons’s marriage. (Funny, I thought the social conservatives were in favour of preserving marriages where possible. It seems like they’ve been trying to drive a wedge in theirs for thirty years now.)

Newt Gingrich approaching his wife with a divorce settlement on her hospital bed?

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:26:13am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

What about Congress-critters? Quite a few there.

Slagging on Amy Carter and Chelsea Clinton when they were children in the White House. Whinging incessantly about slagging on Uday, Qusay, and Lolita even though they are adults and ignoring nepotism laws.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:30:57am

List of states where anti-protest bills have been introduced (along with the bill numbers and what they do), because conservatives love them some freedom (if it fits their definition of the II Amendment).
aclu.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:34:04am

re: #330 Anymouse

List of states where anti-protest bills have been introduced (along with the bill numbers and what they do), because conservatives love them some freedom (if it fits their definition of the II Amendment).
aclu.org

Now GOP SOP: invent some “crisis”, (paid protesters turning violent, immigrant crime wave, creeping Sharia, transgender restroom predators, massive voter fraud, etc.) and then propose “solutions” that do nothing but deprive certain groups of their civil rights.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:41:23am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now GOP SOP: invent some “crisis”, (paid protesters turning violent, immigrant crime wave, creeping Sharia, transgender restroom predators, massive voter fraud, etc.) and then propose “solutions” that do nothing but deprive certain groups of people of their civil rights.

Check out how draconian South Dakota’s and Oklahoma’s proposed laws are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:43:39am

re: #332 Anymouse

Check out how draconian South Dakota’s and Oklahoma’s proposed laws are.

They have to keep those Soros activists at bay!

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:46:24am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have to keep those Soros activists at bay!

South Dakota would grant emergency powers to the state governor, allow him to commandeer local government resources, allow unlimited spending, and seize private property without a warrant.

All of that is unconstitutional, of course. However, there is no amount of money fiscal conservatives will spend to defend their ideology, and no amount of social programmes they won’t strip money from to achieve said-same ideology.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:49:19am

Has Mike Huckabee been hitting the sauce before he hits Twitter? What does this even mean?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:54:16am

LARGE graffito on an I-75 pitstop, Georgetown, KY:

“President Obama did OK. Trump is a war dog”

College town.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:54:37am

re: #335 Anymouse

Has Mike Huckabee been hitting the sauce before he hits Twitter? What does this even mean?

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I don’t even care. Though most people shipped in boxes are, like, dead, so I wonder what he’s really saying here.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:55:12am

re: #22 Sherlock Hound

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:55:55am
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weave  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:56:41am

A $2.5 trillion asset manager just put a statue of a defiant girl in front of the Wall Street bull

State Street installed the statue in collaboration with city officials and expects the statue to stay for up to a month, a company spokesman said.

Why only a month? Why can’t this be permanent? It’s awesome!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:58:02am

re: #339 lawhawk

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Who put the yep in the Dnyepropetrovsk?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:58:28am

re: #230 austin_blue

Bringing Kate Bush into the conversation…

Sigh. A goddess who continues to expand her musical horizons with every album. She was 19 when The Kick Inside was released and her voice was brilliant then and it continues to amaze.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:58:37am

re: #340 weave

A $2.5 trillion asset manager just put a statue of a defiant girl in front of the Wall Street bull

Why only a month? Why can’t this be permanent? It’s awesome!

I heard New Yorkers are already lobbying for it to be a permanent installation.

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Anymouse  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:58:42am

Well, I’m off to bed. It’s early. See y’all later.

Life in the fast lane.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:59:17am

re: #340 weave

A $2.5 trillion asset manager just put a statue of a defiant girl in front of the Wall Street bull

State Street installed the statue in collaboration with city officials and expects the statue to stay for up to a month, a company spokesman said.

Why only a month? Why can’t this be permanent? It’s awesome!

Because equal time provisions require a statue of a young boy standing up to a bear

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 8, 2017 • 5:59:53am

Congratulations Los Angeles re elected Mayor Garcetti. Best mayor in my lifetime. LA will thrive.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:00:57am

re: #323 Targetpractice

So I’m just catching up and catching my breath. The GOP leadership introduced Ryancare with the intent of voting on it 48 hours after introduction…and they made no effort to ensure that they had the votes to actually pass it? They’re going to be begging Democrats to support it?

Good God, Paul may have a shorter stint with the gavel than John of Orange did.

I guess he’s counting on unanimous—or near unanimous—GOP support in the House. In the Senate? Tougher climb.

But their bill is less paper than the ACA so it’s all good.
///

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:01:24am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump tweeted about International Women’s Day, and that went as predictably as 60+ GOP attempts to repeal Obamacare.

The scoring of the #GOPDontCare plan continues by various stakeholders, like insurance companies, credit rating agencies, and the JCT, with the CBO still to weigh in.

And all of them are bad. Not just bad, but beyond awful. This plan, which the GOP had 8 years to craft - is a shit show of epic proportions. It wont do any of the things that the GOP claims it would - it wont bring affordable care, it wont solve a non-existent death spiral (but will create its own), and it blows up the debt by $600 billion, not counting the bit that the CBO will address when its own scoring is released.

If the CBO scores show that it isn’t revenue neutral, then Ryan’s entire plan to avoid scrutiny on the bill and fast track via reconciliation falls apart.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:02:58am

re: #348 lawhawk

That’s because parliamentary rules state a reconciliation bill cannot institute permanent budget changes unless it is revenue neutral.

— Matthew Chapman

Rules are for other people.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:06:24am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because equal time provisions require a statue of a young boy standing up to a bear

No bears there. So, that would mean two more statues. It’s gonna get crowded pretty quick!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:08:17am

re: #335 Anymouse

Cop Killer Huck once again boldly proclaims to the whole world that he is a total asshole

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:08:22am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:08:54am

re: #237 Anymouse

David Gilmour (of Pink Flood) discovered Kate and Wuthering Heights and promoted her to EMI. That’s Ian Bairnson on guitar in that song. Yet another confluence of brilliance in music.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:09:58am
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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:10:14am

re: #175 Anymouse

Well if we’re going for bad pop song, “Friday” by Rebecca Black certainly weigh in, with over 2,500,000 downvotes on YouTube (the most of any song):

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I still prefer the Bad Lip Reading version…

“Gang Fight” — Rebecca Black, as interpreted by a bad lip reader

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:14:08am

re: #242 Anymouse

Fun Fact: Cotton Mather, famed witch trial leader, also experimented in the field which would eventually become genetics, by studying blue and yellow corn. He essentially described blue corn as a genetic recessive (though he didn’t use that term), after planting corn plots upwind of each other so they would cross-pollinate, then observed the results.

I think that Medel would have issues with that assessment.

Gregor Mendel, through his work on pea plants, discovered the fundamental laws of inheritance. He deduced that genes come in pairs and are inherited as distinct units, one from each parent. Mendel tracked the segregation of parental genes and their appearance in the offspring as dominant or recessive traits. He recognized the mathematical patterns of inheritance from one generation to the next. Mendel’s Laws of Heredity are usually stated as:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:14:37am

I love me some lions!!

Morning all!!

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:16:13am

re: #348 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump tweeted about International Women’s Day, and that went as predictably as 60+ GOP attempts to repeal Obamacare.

The scoring of the #GOPDontCare plan continues by various stakeholders, like insurance companies, credit rating agencies, and the JCT, with the CBO still to weigh in.

And all of them are bad. Not just bad, but beyond awful. This plan, which the GOP had 8 years to craft - is a shit show of epic proportions. It wont do any of the things that the GOP claims it would - it wont bring affordable care, it wont solve a non-existent death spiral (but will create its own), and it blows up the debt by $600 billion, not counting the bit that the CBO will address when its own scoring is released.

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The revenue neutral part is the driving force behind how monumentally shitty this bill is. The need to be neutral means they had to find ways to pay for their tax cuts, hence the astronomically deep cuts they’re advancing in the bill. But that’s not something they want to admit out loud, that their “tax cuts pay for themselves” dogma is total bullshit.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:18:45am

re: #357 Dave In Austin

I love me some lions!!

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Morning all!!

That sucked.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:21:52am

Forget all about those “walked two miles in snow to get to school” stories.

Facebook Post

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:22:02am

re: #358 Targetpractice

The biggest cuts in spending are in the Medicaid block grant section, where for the first two years, they’re pushing $15 billion in block grants, but thereafter it’s $10 billion. That’s a 30% cut (not counting the cut over what the current amounts are).

30% cut in Medicaid. That’s either 30% fewer people serviced, or 100% of people covered get 30% less coverage. Either way that’s a huge hit - more than the cost of an iPhone.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:22:12am

re: #260 freetoken

It’s that economic-function primacy of “education” why I dislike so many of the “STEM” pushes.

There are many RWNJs out there that are promoting the idea that the only useful university education is one that is STEM focused. While many of the same morons also think that a return to the 17th century life would make all good again. When education focus was much more focused on the humanities and a broad-based education. I would say ‘oh, the irony’ but they are not intellectually capable to understand where their logic takes a radical (heh) left turn from reality.

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(alpuz)  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:22:23am

re: #359 Stanley Sea

… and blew.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:24:25am

re: #361 lawhawk

The biggest cuts in spending are in the Medicaid block grant section, where for the first two years, they’re pushing $15 billion in block grants, but thereafter it’s $10 billion. That’s a 30% cut (not counting the cut over what the current amounts are).

30% cut in Medicaid. That’s either 30% fewer people serviced, or 100% of people covered get 30% less coverage. Either way that’s a huge hit - more than the cost of an iPhone.

Hence all their “cutting costs” BS, because the costs they’re focusing on cutting are ones for their donors. And their donors view giving us healthcare as a cost, much as they see creating jobs as a form of altruism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:25:30am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Hence all their “cutting costs” BS, because the costs they’re focusing on cutting are ones for their donors. And their donors view giving us healthcare as a cost, much as they see creating jobs as a form of altruism.

and having to pay taxes as a form of theft.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:27:40am

re: #336 Decatur Deb

LARGE graffito on an I-75 pitstop, Georgetown, KY:

“President Obama did OK. Trump is a war dog”

College town.

Home of extremely large Toyota/Lexus plant, too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:29:20am

re: #357 Dave In Austin

“Waitress, just coffee this morning. Hold the eggs.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:29:48am

re: #355 makeitstop

I still prefer the Bad Lip Reading version…

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Video

Here’s the flip side of Bad Lip Reading. Bad Google Translate. The singer is pretty good!

“Let It Go” from Frozen according to Google Translate (PARODY)

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I cannot.  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:37:30am

re: #320 Timothy Watson

“honour”? Do you have a stray Brit writing for your paper?

Piers Morgan could not be reached for comment.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:38:46am

Did anyone know that the debt ceiling comes due next week? No? Perhaps its because, unlike the last 8 years, the GOP isn’t out there talking about how America could default on her debts and come out the other side better for it? And the media’s not entertaining assholes from Bumfuck, Iowa talking about how we need to keep the ceiling where it is so we can “get our house in order”?

Amazing what happens when a white guy is in office.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:41:12am

Something uplifting

Instagram

“We want our future to be better. So that we can make our dreams come true.” Meet the TIGER girls of Zaatari refugee camp .

Get inspired to change the lives of refugee girls on this #WomensDay.
UNHCR
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#girl #Jordan #Syrianrefugees #refugees #hope #instahope #realpeople #UNHCR #WomensDay

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:42:13am

re: #370 Targetpractice

Did anyone know that the debt ceiling comes due next week? No? Perhaps its because, unlike the last 8 years, the GOP isn’t out there talking about how America could default on her debts and come out the other side better for it? And the media’s not entertaining assholes from Bumfuck, Iowa talking about how we need to keep the ceiling where it is so we can “get our house in order”?

Amazing what happens when a white guy is in office.

Democrats aren’t going to shut down the government over it.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:42:16am

The GOPDontCare plan doesn’t care that it’s unworkable, or will cost stakeholders (patients, insureds, hospitals, doctors, nursing homes, and staff at medical facilities dearly). All they want is their fucking tax cuts.

They want their petty tax breaks for insurance company CEOs and they want their massive tax cuts for the rich that come with rationing care and limiting Medicaid block grants that will leave your grandparents wanting for nursing home or hospital care in their waning years because the block grants get the old slash and burn treatment because the GOP wants to gut programs that work.

Medicaid costs for health care have gone up far more slowly than the costs for corporate insurance coverage. That means that one of the brakes on rising health care costs will disappear because the purchasing power of Medicaid will be further diluted, and the transparency efforts under Obamacare will also disappear (that’s one of the reasons the ACA was so large - it dealt with issues of health cost transparency).

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:42:16am

Something inspiring.

Instagram

Had to get my sister Isra to write a little something for this day. “Happy International Women’s Day to all of my sisters out there! We are living in a time where our communities are being torn apart by Agent Orange in the White House or online trolls trying to divide an already targeted and vulnerable community. There are more openly-identified Islamophobes today then there has ever been. There are more hate crimes against Muslims than there has ever been. And yet, we have women in our communities wearing a hijab with their head held high. Women whom are unapologetically Muslim and could potentially be risking their lives for their faith. It is not easy being a hijabi in today’s world. I have been called a “terrorist”, “ISIS”, told to “go back to my country” (even though I was born and raised in the US), more times in the past few months than the past 10 years. I do feel afraid walking alone. I do get anxious every time I’m on the metro escalator and platform so I always stand sideways constantly looking around me to make sure no one is trying to shove me in front of a train. I do worry about my mama and sisters all day- wanting to always check in and make sure no one experienced any type of hate. I do bite my tongue when I get called a name because I don’t know if any response from me would trigger a violent or fatal altercation. I choose to wear the hijab, and I don’t have any regrets or doubt in my choice but, I understand the struggle for Muslim women in today’s society. I empathize with women whom are struggling right now. We need to be there for each other- lift one another up- have each other’s back. We cannot afford to be divided. To all my brothers out there- use today as time to reflect on how you can be a better ally for your sisters. Instead of passing judgement on how they wear their hijab or how tight their jeans are in pictures- focus on their courage and bravery in choosing to wear a hijab in our current climate. Stand by them, not against them. We are stronger together. To all my sisters, I am grateful for your strength, and inspired by your persistence. Nevertheless, WE Persisted. ❤” - @israspeaks #muslimsoftheworld1

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:45:40am

re: #370 Targetpractice

Did anyone know that the debt ceiling comes due next week? No? Perhaps its because, unlike the last 8 years, the GOP isn’t out there talking about how America could default on her debts and come out the other side better for it? And the media’s not entertaining assholes from Bumfuck, Iowa talking about how we need to keep the ceiling where it is so we can “get our house in order”?

Amazing what happens when a white guy is in office.

Raising the debt ceiling has gone from being an impeachable offense worthy of national revolt to overthrow a dually elected government to being something that must receive 100% universal support immediately or be expelled from congress.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:47:05am

Hasta la vista, everyone. It’s approaching the sleep hour for the Dogg.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:50:11am

re: #293 Anymouse

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I would love to see these quotes on billboards. As you’re driving out of the DC airport.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:53:27am

Shot and chaser are included in same tweet….

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:53:53am

Watched Perks of Being a Wallflower last night. Absolutely beautiful movie. So many story lines all woven together perfectly. Wasn’t sure what to expect but it was fantastic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:55:41am

re: #378 lawhawk

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Shot and chaser are included in same tweet….

Totally classy escort services for businessmen. All good Christian women.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:57:02am
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2017 • 6:57:21am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Totally classy escort services for businessmen. All good Christian women.

Chosen by Je$u$.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:01:25am

So, on the way back from a lesson, there was a sign in front of a little corner grocery store advertising venison sausages. It’s an unassuming little store; so I bought a couple, and damn, are they good! It’s often in the little places that you find great things.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:01:51am

re: #378 lawhawk

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Shot and chaser are included in same tweet….

Now there obviously must be some mistake in the translation, because we know that Der Trumpenfuhrer would never be associated with such things. It’s clear that the Chinese are trying to slander his good name.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:02:04am

re: #272 freetoken

WaPo is in the business of making money, and they do that by getting eyes on product, and wingnut eyes are still eyes as far as internet metrics are concerned.

The late, great author, re: #272 freetoken

WaPo is in the business of making money, and they do that by getting eyes on product, and wingnut eyes are still eyes as far as internet metrics are concerned.

The late, great author, Terry Pratchett, wrote about the newspaper business in The Truth. Turning lead into gold by publishing all sides of any story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:02:40am

re: #383 Dr Lizardo

So, on the way back from a lesson, there was a sign in front of a little corner grocery store advertising venison sausages. It’s an unassuming little store; so I bought a couple, and damn, are they good! It’s often in the little places that you find great things.

We had a butcher here who sold wild boar bratwurst. Must look for them again.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:03:01am

I want to buy a coffee for the person(s) responsible for leaving little white signs around Cambridge MA with simple messages like “Resist” and “This is not normal”.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:05:08am

This is better than benign “Follow Friday” tweets. Hopefully I will find some great people to follow today:

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:07:40am

re: #387 Franklin

I want to buy a coffee for the person(s) responsible for leaving little white signs around Cambridge MA with simple messages like “Resist” and “This is not normal”.

Not sure if intentional, but the signs are all hung on street/traffic signs by coat hangers. Perhaps a subtle sign of what’s at stake for women’s reproductive rights.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:10:17am

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:11:40am

re: #390 GlutenFreeJesus

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Hurr hurr libtards just want all the frees stuff!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:12:38am

re: #201 Anymouse

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They are going to whitewash it. Just you wait and see.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:13:02am

Shocked, shocked I say…

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:16:30am

re: #393 FormerDirtDart

Shocked, shocked I say…

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“It’s outrageous that the NSA would look at my emails or call history! That’s stuff that could be sold to a third-party for a profit!!!”

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:16:41am

Reading some reviews on Perks of Being a Wallflower, ran across this from the late/great Roger Ebert:

Why is it that English, drama and music teachers are most often recalled as our mentors and inspirations? Maybe because artists are rarely members of the popular crowd.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:29:19am

Furious Obama might even be better than No Fucks to Give Obama.

Former President Barack Obama is said to be “furious” about President Donald Trump’s unproven claim that Obama ordered a surveillance operation on phones at Trump Tower during the 2016 campaign.

People close to Obama told The Wall Street Journal in a story published Tuesday night that Obama was “livid” about Trump’s unfounded accusations, which came in a series of tweets early Saturday morning.

Obama said before he left office that he would not respond to every controversial thing Trump tweeted, but during his last press conference as commander in chief Obama said he would “examine it when it comes” if there were issues that “go to core questions about our values and our ideals.”

Trump’s explosive accusations — which he made without providing any evidence — appeared to do just that, according to The Journal’s Carol E. Lee and Peter Nicholas, who cited people familiar with Obama’s thinking who said Trump’s tweets about wiretapping undermined “the integrity of the office of the president and Mr. Obama himself.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:31:04am

re: #396 makeitstop

Furious Obama might even be better than No Fucks to Give Obama.

Next up: Libel lawsuit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:32:06am

re: #395 Franklin

Reading some reviews on Perks of Being a Wallflower, ran across this from the late/great Roger Ebert:

Why is it that English, drama and music teachers are most often recalled as our mentors and inspirations? Maybe because artists are rarely members of the popular crowd.

I despised my junior year HS English teacher (and she me) but she drilled a ton of vocabulary into us, for which I am still grateful and taught us how to read and appreciate modern literature (GB Shaw, Hemmingway, Steinbeck) for which I am also grateful

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:36:44am

Morning Lizards:

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Ubiq  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:40:44am

re: #175 Anymouse

Well if we’re going for bad pop song, “Friday” by Rebecca Black certainly weigh in, with over 2,500,000 downvotes on YouTube (the most of any song):

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Without that song, we wouldn’t have this epic cover.

YouTube

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BadgerB  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:45:46am

re: #335 Anymouse

Has Mike Huckabee been hitting the sauce before he hits Twitter? What does this even mean?

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I’ll take “autocorrect turned ‘between’ into ‘brown’ after a close connection for $50. (Doesn’t mean he isn’t still a jerk, just a jerk who had a bad experience in an airport)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:47:27am

re: #401 BadgerB

I’ll take “autocorrect turned ‘between’ into ‘brown’ after a close connection for $50. (Doesn’t mean he isn’t still a jerk, just a jerk who had a bad experience in an airport)

Thanks to DT, airport experiences are only getting more and more dire.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:48:41am

re: #281 freetoken

My favourite bit from Andromeda was about AI.

Worlds governed by artificial intelligence often learned a hard lesson: Logic Doesn’t Care.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:52:01am

re: #400 Ubiq

I feel dirty updinging anyhting associated with that horror. But, he turned it around quite well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 7:53:02am

re: #403 Romantic Heretic

Worlds governed by artificial intelligence often learned a hard lesson: Logic Doesn’t Care.

Logic is a tool, not an end in itself…

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:11:25am
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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:13:36am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:21:57am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:24:35am

re: #409 lawhawk

That all that malware is already out there, and a bunch of it is Russian in origin shows that Russian and other countries are involved in these same kinds of efforts to spy on their rivals and enemies. But wikileaks cares not for what Russia does and has fixated on undermining US national security time and time again.

Not for nothing, the Russia bots are busy trying to spin this as the CIA trying to frame Russia for what the CIA does - feeding the conspiracy theory nuts who circle around Trump (and Trump himself).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:26:11am

re: #410 lawhawk

The main purpose of the wikileaks dump was to offer enough “circumstantial evidence” that Obama was wiretapping Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:26:34am

SOS was tearing down practically all of Wikileaks claims last night.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:26:35am

Real Estate deals are a red flag —at least it seems that many big investigations and prosecutions are the result of them.

who is a real estate mogul?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:26:54am

re: #409 lawhawk

Kremlin bots instantly pounced on WikiLeaks dump, pushing false narrative that CIA framed Russia for hacking the DNC

What a great idea by the CIA to hack DNC emails on behalf of a…Democratic administration. Yeah makes total sense.

/

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:27:54am

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:29:02am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:30:28am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The main purpose of the wikileaks dump was to offer enough “circumstantial evidence” that Obama was wiretapping Trump.

put the Wanker back in the spotlight.

:)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:30:38am

re: #414 Sir John Barron

What a great idea by the CIA to hack DNC emails on behalf of a…Democratic administration. Yeah makes total sense.

/

HRC: So let me see if I have this straight…you want to hack my party’s email records to get the Bernie Bros all riled up so we can blame Russia for the hack?

CIA:

/

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:31:44am

For no particular reason:

I’m so glad I found LGF all those years ago and that it has continued to evolve into what it is today, an island of sanity and reason in an increasingly depraved, ignorant, and irrational world.
I go to other sites, allegedly good ones at that, and see commenters do asinine things like cite their unknown and unnamed relatives as sources, or post outlandishly obvious strawmen about statements just a few lines away. And I think, wow, the Lizards would skin that fool and serve up his gamey buttocks in record time.
This truly is the best commenting community on the internet. Thanks, gang, for being here and thank you, Charles, for making it possible and persevering through all the struggle.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:32:04am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:33:53am

This is an awesome pic:

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:34:53am

This picture always gets me…it’s from a question about bullying in general, but the visual is uplifting for girls worldwide:

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:34:54am

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

Some *ahem* of us are trying to remain sane and reasonable.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:37:56am

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

And the commenting platform is easily the most user-friendly anywhere. Kind of surprised there aren’t other sites that try to set it up the same way. But it’s easy to follow the comments of others.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:39:49am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:40:01am
“Russia is not America’s friend. And it’s stunning to hear that while they were attacking our democracy, one of the largest organizations supporting Trump was cozying up with a sanctioned Russian in Moscow,” said Rep. Eric Swalwell, who is the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee panel that oversees the CIA.

shameless pages promotion

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mmmirele  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:41:57am

Here’s a story filling in some background on the murder of KKK Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona in Missouri. Apparently his wife was a cat hoarder and not exactly a nice person. Not that a Klan leader is a nice person either, but it doesn’t look like his Klan stuff got him murdered.

riverfronttimes.com

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:42:42am

OK, hump day just collapsed into a great open pit…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:43:09am

re: #427 mmmirele

Here’s a story filling in some background on the murder of KKK Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona in Missouri. Apparently his wife was a cat hoarder and not exactly a nice person. Not that a Klan leader is a nice person either, but it doesn’t look like his Klan stuff got him murdered.

riverfronttimes.com

In other words, people with serious social issues and personality disorders, all perfectly at home in a movement that is based on some of the worst aspects of human nature.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:43:36am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart

Yes. it’s real…

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:43:43am

I’ll tell you exactly how the Wikileaks story will be spun: Obama ordered the CIA to hack the DNC in order to sabotage Hillary’s run, because he secretly supported Bernie’s candidacy and still bears a grudge against the Clintons for ‘08.

Yes, this is how fucking crazy wingnuts are, that they’d totally believe this story to make the pieces fit together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:44:39am

re: #431 Targetpractice

I’ll tell you exactly how the Wikileaks story will be spun: Obama ordered the CIA to hack the DNC in order to sabotage Hillary’s run, because he secretly supported Bernie’s candidacy and still bears a grudge against the Clintons for ‘08.

Yes, this is how fucking crazy wingnuts are, that they’d totally believe this story to make the pieces fit together.

Just add some aliens and a pedophile pizza parlor and you got a winner here…

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:49:56am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart

That’s courtesy of now AG Sessions. He of the testimony given under oath that was was a lie - perjury.

These sanctimonious assholes think that eliminating health care coverage for millions of people makes it great.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:52:52am

nich, huh?

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:53:19am

And this just came across my face…
Adolf Hitler showing symptoms of amphetamine use

Imgur

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:54:10am
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Belafon  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:55:10am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart

OK, hump day just collapsed into a great open pit…

I can’t see the picture, but is this in it:

(a) Short title.—This Act may be cited as the “World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017”.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:55:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:56:12am
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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:56:14am

re: #435 Teukka

And this just came across my face…
Adolf Hitler showing symptoms of amphetamine use

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Tweaking his fascist ass off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:57:01am

re: #435 Teukka

And this just came across my face…
Adolf Hitler showing symptoms of amphetamine use

There is a lot of evidence that came out on how seriously Hitler was addicted to the drugs in the various injections he was getting from his personal physician, Dr. Theodor Morell.

And it is thought that his outbursts in the Bunker at the end of the war were the result of withdrawal, as the factory supplying his synthetic opiates was bombed out.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:57:36am

re: #434 Birth Control Works

You mad, bro?

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:58:15am

re: #440 makeitstop

Tweaking his fascist ass off.

*nods*

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a lot of evidence that came out on how seriously Hitler was addicted to the drugs in the various injections he was getting from his house doctor, Theodor Morell.

And it is thought that his outbursts in the Bunker at the end of the war were the result of withdrawal, as the factory supplying his synthetic opiates was bombed out.

*nods again*

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:59:01am

re: #429 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In other words, people with serious social issues and personality disorders, all perfectly at home in a movement that is based on some of the worst aspects of human nature.

I see that the Malissa’s son and alleged accomplice, Paul Jinkerson Jr., has a record for meth possession. Imagine my surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:59:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2017 • 8:59:55am

re: #444 Shiplord Kirel

I see that the Malissa’s son and alleged accomplice, Paul Jinkerson Jr., has a record for meth possession. Imagine my surprise.

all the worst aspects of human nature, yes…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:02:47am
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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:03:21am

re: #442 Sir John Barron

You mad, bro?

He mad.

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:05:28am

re: #427 mmmirele

Here’s a story filling in some background on the murder of KKK Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona in Missouri. Apparently his wife was a cat hoarder and not exactly a nice person. Not that a Klan leader is a nice person either, but it doesn’t look like his Klan stuff got him murdered.

riverfronttimes.com

That’s a thing I’ve noticed, people with those sort of opinions are not that often nice people to begin with…

re: #429 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In other words, people with serious social issues and personality disorders, all perfectly at home in a movement that is based on some of the worst aspects of human nature.

You know, there is a theory about group narcissism, i.e. narcissism where the focal point of the malignant “love” is not the self but the group one belongs to, otherwise the plain old disorder being the same.

Only when the focal point is one race is when people recognize the pathology, otherwise, it gets easily explained away as devotion, patriotism or party loyalty.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:05:59am

re: #437 Belafon

I can’t see the picture, but is this in it:

(a) Short title.—This Act may be cited as the “World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017”.

Yes

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:06:11am

These laws are mostly about freeing harassers to harass, so here ya go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:06:52am

President Donald Trump is coming to Louisville on Saturday, a spokeswoman with the Louisville International Airport confirmed.

On Wednesday, the Federal Aviation Administration warned pilots to expect flight restrictions of about 35 miles and an even stricter restriction of about 11 nautical miles. Those restrictions for “VIP Movement” have been a previous characteristic of a presidential visit. A more-detailed “Notice to Airmen” has not yet been issued.

A similar notice was issued last weekend for Orlando prior to Trump spending time at Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.

Stephanie Smith, public relations manager for the Louisville Regional Airport Authority, told the Courier-Journal that they were notified Wednesday that he’s coming this weekend. She said that they haven’t received any other details.

Representatives from the U.S. Secret Service and Senator Mitch McConnell’s office declined to comment, forwarding all requests to the White House. The White House did not respond to a USA TODAY request for comment.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:07:01am

re: #450 FormerDirtDart

Yes

What’s hilarious, is Sessions refers to the act as the “Worlds Greatest Healthcare Act” all throughout the document.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:07:08am

re: #442 Sir John Barron

You mad, bro?

no, just showing the level of hate out there.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:07:23am

And the icing on the cake:

Aimee Toms has a short haircut because she recently donated hair - for the third time - to a program that makes wigs for child cancer patients.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:08:26am

re: #435 Teukka

And this just came across my face…
Adolf Hitler showing symptoms of amphetamine use

The author of Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich was on Fresh Air yesterday. Only heard part of it, but very interesting about the documented use of opiates and methamphetamine by Hitler and the army

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:12:38am

re: #456 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ha! That is a fantastic title.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:15:16am

re: #454 Birth Control Works

no, just showing the level of hate out there.

I meant the dude who tweeted out the complaint about Women’s Day.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:15:27am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:16:51am

re: #458 Sir John Barron

I meant the dude who tweeted out the complaint about Women’s Day.

ah!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:17:25am

This seems like kind of a big deal

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:19:02am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:19:48am

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:19:55am

re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth

And no outrage is shown from the rest of the world, as usual.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:21:26am

@HallieJackson w/ great question on wiretap allegations: “Why would he want congress to investigate something he already has?”

@PressSec:

What he really meant:
“Obviously, we want a political sideshow, that FOX News can broadcast live, and distract the American people…”
//

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:21:56am

from my fb:

Sad day for public education in the United States. The U.S. House of Representatives has introduced Bill 610. This bill will effectively start the school voucher system to be used by children ages 5 to 17, and starts the de-funding process of public schools.

The bill will eliminate the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESSA) of 1965 which is the nation’s educational law and provides equal opportunity in education. It is a comprehensive program that covers programs for struggling learners, AP classes, ESL classes, classes for minorities such as Native Americans, Rural Education, Education for the Homeless, School Safety (Gun-Free schools), Monitoring and Compliance and Federal Accountability Programs.

The bill also abolishes the Nutritional Act of 2012 (No Hungry Kids Act) which provides nutritional standards in school breakfast and lunch. For our most vulnerable, this may be the ONLY nutritious food they have in a day.
The bill has no wording whatsoever protecting special needs kids, no mention of IDEA and FAPE.

Some things the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESSA) of 1965 does for Children with Disabilities:

-ensures access to the general education curriculum
-ensures access to accommodations on assessments
-ensures concepts of Universal Design for Learning
-includes provisions that require local education agencies to provide evidence-based interventions in schools with consistently underperforming subgroups
-requires states in Title I plans to address how they will improve conditions for learning including reducing incidents of bullying and harassment in schools, overuse of discipline practices and reduce the use of aversive behavioral interventions (such as restraints and seclusion).

Please call your representative and ask him/her to vote NO on House Bill 610 (HR 610) introduced by three Republican reps.

Please consider copying and pasting this post (rather than hitting “share” so it isn’t limited to the friends we have in common). Thanks for advocating on behalf of our nation’s youth and their families.

#fuckbetsydevos

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:21:59am

re: #461 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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This seems like kind of a big deal

DOJ: “Oh…er…can’t show you that.”
“Why not?”
DOJ: “Because it’s confidential material!”
“We have the clearance level to read that.”
DOJ: “It pertains to an ongoing investigation!”
“What investigation?”
DOJ: “We can’t show them to you, but we assure you they exist. Now go away!”

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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:23:36am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:27:16am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:27:24am

bbl

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:28:46am
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:33:37am

re: #5 Joe Bacon

Well, I went to vote when I finished work. My polling station in Los Angeles handles four precincts. After I cast my ballot, I asked the clerks how many people voted as of 515 PM in my precinct…

The reply…

14…

Depressing…

There was an election here for two city council seats yesterday. Including absentee votes, turnout was 1.6%. Don’t miss that decimal in there. Not 16%, one point six percent. It’s working the way somebody wants it to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:34:45am
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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:36:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:37:53am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:38:08am

re: #474 Franklin

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That is truly wonderful trolling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:41:58am
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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:43:33am

The group OUTVETS was denied a spot in the South Boston parade after being able to march the last two years.

Here they are from a pic I took last year, got some nice support from where I was sitting:

In addition to the Mayor:

Congressman Seth Moulton encouraged a boycott of the parade, calling the event organizers’ decision to reject the group’s participation “outrageous and disgraceful.”

“Let’s just be clear, these are men and women who courageously put their lives on the line for our country,” Moulton said in a statement. “They deserve our respect just as much as anyone, and if this decision is not reversed immediately, I would encourage anybody who supports freedom, equality, and the service of our veterans no matter who they are, to boycott this parade.”

I won’t be attending this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:44:09am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:45:54am

it was Deep State liberal feminazis in the National Parks Service. Seditious treasonous radical leftist terrorists …

🗽 What caused the Statue of Liberty to go dark last night? Human error, @NatlParkService says. Story: apne.ws

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scottslemmons  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:46:08am

tor.com is running a cool flash-fiction event called “Nevertheless, She Persisted” to commemorate International Women’s Day, with stories by Seanan McGuire, Charlie Jane Anders, Carrie Vaughn, and more.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:48:46am
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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:49:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:49:51am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 8, 2017 • 9:59:54am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love Sarcastic Rover.

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:06:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:09:51am

re: #486 gocart mozart

“….the political equivalent of locking yourself in the studio for years working on your double-album masterpiece, and emerging with a boombox tape of bathtub farts….”

Fucking brilliant.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:12:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:14:27am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:14:59am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:17:57am

re: #488 jaunte

This is a congressional bill?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:18:00am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:18:05am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:18:10am

re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth

32 seconds…

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:18:45am
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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:19:24am

Seen at DailyKos, the perfect tag for the GOP healthcare mess:

DonTCare

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:20:40am

re: #491 Sir John Barron

This is a congressional bill?

“…The bill, introduced by Representative Steve King of Iowa, seeks to repeal a portion of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 that pertains to nutritional standards in schools and would create a voucher program to distribute federal funds to expand “school choice” for students”
romper.com

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:21:29am

re: #493 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:22:43am

re: #486 gocart mozart

The NRO dude says:

[the House bill is] a desire to address the difficulty of transitioning out of the bind created by Obamacare’s entrenchment over the past four years.

So, you see, it’s all Obama’s fault for giving people healthcare.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:23:51am

re: #495 jaunte

Now @repsandylevin introducing an amendment to ensure a week window between the CBO score and the final vote pic.twitter.com

— Ben Jacobs

Can’t allow that, that would be tyranny.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:24:21am
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:25:05am

re: #500 Sir John Barron

People might talk!

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:26:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:26:41am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:27:40am

re: #488 jaunte

I don’t think it actually abolishes school lunches:

The bill proposed by King also tacks on another issue, in addition to school vouchers: it wants to cut a provision of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act, which requires that school lunches meet certain nutritional standards, including a basic caloric requirement and a requirement to increase the availability of fruits and vegetables while reducing sodium and high trans-fat food options.

Not that this would be a good change, either, but I don’t think it abolishes them.

Still, I expect King and other GOPers to now start saying that “The school lunch program basically takes away food from kids….”

506
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:28:17am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:28:28am

re: #502 jaunte

People might talk!

You are trying to sabotage our dually elected government and that’s treason!!!!

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:29:57am

re: #487 Dr Lizardo

“….the political equivalent of locking yourself in the studio for years working on your double-album masterpiece, and emerging with a boombox tape of bathtub farts….”

Fucking brilliant.

Lawd almighty.
*roflcopters*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:31:03am
510
Citizen K  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:32:30am

Like…seriously. Are people really not going to be satisfied until someone literally crucifies Hillary Clinton for her ‘crimes’? Because this is getting fucking old, and fucking annoying.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:38:25am

I l

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:41:26am
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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:41:52am

Well just blocked D.F. for retweeting this crap.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:43:37am

re: #513 Bubblehead II

Well just blocked D.F. for retweeting this crap.

Wasn’t following, but I just blocked anyway.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:44:10am

re: #510 Citizen K

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Like…seriously. Are people really not going to be satisfied until someone literally crucifies Hillary Clinton for her ‘crimes’? Because this is getting fucking old, and fucking annoying.

They wont be satisfied until the entire Clinton Family is lynched.

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Franklin  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:44:41am

re: #515 Joe Bacon

They wont be satisfied until the entire Clinton *CRIME* Family is lynched.

//

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BadgerB  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:45:02am

re: #453 Belafon

What’s hilarious, is Sessions refers to the act as the “Worlds Greatest Healthcare Act” all throughout the document.

Sort of like when Enron’s slogan was “World’s Greatest Company”.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:45:48am

re: #516 Franklin

//

And the Berniebots will cheer along with the Jill Shills!

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:50:02am

re: #497 jaunte

“…The bill, introduced by Representative Steve King of Iowa, seeks to repeal a portion of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 that pertains to nutritional standards in schools and would create a voucher program to distribute federal funds to expand “school choice” for students”
romper.com

Near both my elementary and high schools, the only places that sold food were fried food, hot dogs and sandwiches. All delicious, but none healthy. I wouldn’t mind my children eating from them once in a while, but not every day.

In other worlds, this is an idiotic bill. 😔

520
Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:50:24am

GOP senators’ new bill would let ISPs sell your Web browsing data

arstechnica.com

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:51:03am

re: #486 gocart mozart

I was following him before it was cool.

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:51:12am

re: #520 Skip Intro

GOP senators’ new bill would let ISPs sell your Web browsing data

arstechnica.com

Hello full time VPN.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:51:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:51:34am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:52:16am

re: #510 Citizen K

What’s this in reference to?

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:54:25am

re: #482 Franklin

[Embedded content]

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:54:39am

re: #505 Sir John Barron

I don’t think it actually abolishes school lunches:

Not that this would be a good change, either, but I don’t think it abolishes them.

Still, I expect King and other GOPers to now start saying that “The school lunch program basically takes away food from kids….”

Here’s an airplane sized bag of pretzels. Now go away kid, you bother me.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:55:28am

re: #527 MsJ

Here’s an airplane sized bag of pretzels. Now go away kid, you bother me.

and a giant sized Super Big Gulp.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:55:37am

They’re all idiots.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:56:37am

re: #523 jaunte

They don’t have to replace it at all, of course.

Kind of funny, though, that “replace” suddenly became the word of the day after 8 years of REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL!!!

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:56:38am

re: #529 Skip Intro

They’re all idiots.

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Heh. That’s a third-degree burn……

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:57:01am

Texas, where the maternal mortality rate has doubled since 2009, and conservatives are still focused on punishing women.

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CongoJack  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:57:04am

re: #528 Sir John Barron

and a giant sized Super Big Gulp.

Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

534
Citizen K  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:57:16am

re: #525 Sir John Barron

What’s this in reference to?

This article on Vox, apparently.

Which some people noted used charts and infographics that don’t necessarily support the claim the author is trying to make.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:57:41am

re: #529 Skip Intro

They’re all idiots.

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NRO is a sell-out, part of the establishment, part of the swamp DT promises to drain, when he isn’t on the gold course or at his Florida white house.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2017 • 10:58:42am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:00:08am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:00:20am

re: #534 Citizen K

This article on Vox, apparently.

Which some people noted used charts and infographics that don’t necessarily support the claim the author is trying to make.

I’ll admit the ads I saw from her were not very policy focused, although most campaign ads aren’t. Policy is too complicated.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:02:08am

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump couldn’t get through a two minute interview with a real journalist on what’s in his health care bill.

It’s not my bill. I never said that.

You tweeted it yesterday, you said it was “our bill”.

FAKE NEWS!

540
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:03:55am
541
Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:04:36am

Nothing to see here. Just turkeys circling a dead cat.

542
Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:05:56am

The GOP and White House seem to be pimping a replacement plan that doesn’t exist. Or (more likely) they’re gaslighting the absolute fuck out of the nation by selling us the exact opposite of what is on the table.

543
Citizen K  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:06:26am

re: #538 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit the ads I saw from her were not very policy focused, although most campaign ads aren’t. Policy is too complicated.

And as I keep noting, every time she talked Policy, media responded with dead silence and instead moved, with bated breath, to Trump Coverage. The only TV time she got that wasn’t dedicated to her ‘scandals’ was when she talked Trump. That was the only way she was allowed to get oxygen, period. That’s the calculus she had to work with.

544
Nyet  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:10:46am

Amazon has removed some prominent Holocaust denial titles.

545
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:11:05am
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:11:05am
547
JordanRules  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:11:22am

re: #543 Citizen K

Yup! Being wonky is one thing and bores most Americans, but being a wonky woman adds another dynamic that is unfair and unfortunate.

548
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:11:58am
549
JordanRules  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:15am

re: #544 Nyet

Interesting. How’d you find out?

550
Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:21am

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

What kind of care they get is what matters

Nobody gets this great, terrific care. But if they did, then it would be really Wonderful.

/

551
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:31am
552
jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:37am

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

“There’s no contrast between what we did and what they did.”

Wut.

553
Jay C  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:46am

re: #519 while(1) worries++;

Near both my elementary and high schools, the only places that sold food were fried food, hot dogs and sandwiches. All delicious, but none healthy. I wouldn’t mind my children eating from them once in a while, but not every day.

In other worlds, this is an idiotic bill. 😔

Well. one has to remember that bills like this are probably aimed at that portion of the electorate (not excluding parents of schoolage children) who view even the most logical notions of “healthy eating” as a slap-in-the-face from sneery elitist “libruls” with snotty know-it-all attitudes about telling Reel ‘Murkans how to raise their kids.

Beats me why eating (and feeding your children) cheap*, processed, over-sugared and fat-laden junk food should be considered some sort of patriotic gesture, but that’s today’s Right….

*The RW media would probably prod its audience to subsist on a 100% junk-food diet even if it were ruinously expensive; just to piss off “libruls”.

554
Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:12:53am

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicer: How many people are going be covered — that’s not the question that should be asked

I ordered up that meteor a while ago. Disappointed it’s taking so long.

555
Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:14:21am

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Aside from allowing the CBO to score the bill, after weeks of debate, and then waiting 30 days after the bill was revealed to schedule a vote on it. But you know, other than that, things are going exactly the same.

//////

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:14:40am

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If you’re looking to the CBO for accuracy, you’re looking in the wrong place” — @PressSec, working the refs ahead of score of AHCA

— Mike Memoli

Does Spicer know that the Republican Congress controls the appointment of the CBO director and that CBO exists to provide objective, empirical….

oh forget it.

557
Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:15:20am

Spicy’s really getting into his job. I’m scratching him off the list of the next to go.

558
jaunte  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:16:10am
559
Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:16:12am

Anyone know what Melanoma is selling at her show and tell today?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:16:31am

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If you’re looking to the CBO for accuracy, you’re looking in the wrong place” — @PressSec, working the refs ahead of score of AHCA

— Mike Memoli

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicer: How many people are going be covered — that’s not the question that should be asked

What kind of care they get is what matters

— Mark Murray

I fear a world, a nation, in which this kind of crap is not punished.

561
Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:16:34am

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

They are working the refs, but the aim isn’t to bullshit the public so much as it is to get past their own rules. They know there’s no way in hell this bill will be revenue neutral, which is what is required to pass it via reconciliation. So they’re trying to argue that there’s no need to wait for the CBO scoring and just push forward with the vote. They’re in a race with the clock, one which they’re losing every moment they have to give us another lie about how they can’t wait.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:17:40am

re: #558 jaunte

Well, choices is a problem, too, but the problem is one of not having the choice to get insurance if one has pre-existing conditions (which I know they’re promising to keep, but with this gang they shouldn’t be trusted).

563
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:19:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:20:16am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:20:21am

re: #435 Teukka

And this just came across my face…
Adolf Hitler showing symptoms of amphetamine use

[Embedded content]

I heard a good interview with the author of the new book Blitzed yesterday. He has been criticized for focusing to heavily on the drugs as the reason for Hitler’s irrationality in the 1940s, but I think he made a good case. The dude was basically doing speedballs every other day.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:21:03am

re: #549 JordanRules

Interesting. How’d you find out?

My blogger colleagues have noticed before it hit the news.

567
Nyet  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:23:43am

re: #566 Nyet

My blogger colleagues have noticed before it hit the news.

BTW this news item only mentions 4 books but actually many more have been removed.

568
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:25:40am
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Jay C  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:31:38am

re: #565 Barefoot Grin

I heard a good interview with the author of the new book Blitzed yesterday. He has been criticized for focusing to heavily on the drugs as the reason for Hitler’s irrationality in the 1940s, but I think he made a good case. The dude was basically doing speedballs every other day.

Not just Der Führer. IIRC, the German government and military made a big deal of mass-producing and distributing large quantities of speed to all and sundry during the War. Kept their Pharma industry profitable as well…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:34:42am

re: #569 Jay C

Not just Der Führer. IIRC, the German government and military made a big deal of mass-producing and distributing large quantities of speed to all and sundry during the War. Kept their Pharma industry profitable as well…

Yes, he said it was supplied officially for the first time before the invasion of France—allowed them to move through the Ardennes without sleeping.

By contrast, the French soldiers got about 3/4 liter of red wine each day—drowzy time!

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2017 • 11:47:27am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stonekettle @Stonekettle
“World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017”

It’s like a bunch of kids formed a club in their tree fort and decided to play congress
1:25 PM - 8 Mar 2017
34 34 Retweets 72 72 likes

Nah, kids would be much more caring and open to universal healthcare. Actually I would take an all-kid congress right about now. They would be a huge improvement over the current GOP congress.


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