Steve King Goes All the Way White Supremacist

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Republican Rep. Steve King has had a long history of borderline racist statements. But this weekend he crossed that border for good, with a tweet that openly endorsed white nationalism.

And “white nationalism” is just another term for “white supremacism,” no matter how they try to deny it.

King is talking about anti-Muslim Dutch demagogue Geert Wilders, who’s also riding high right now on the far right nationalist movement, and who has called for the Koran to be banned and all Muslim immigration to be ended. In other words, very similar policy ideas to our current president and his advisers.

Steve King’s comment was recognized for what it is by the vile Daily Stormer website, where they wrote:

Steve King is basically an open white nationalist at this point.

King, of course, is not backing down or withdrawing his blatantly racist comment; he went on CNN earlier today and stood by every word.

Welcome to the Trump era, America, where the bad old days are roaring back into style with a vengeance.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:29:13pm

What the fuck is in the water in Iowa? And is it getting into our food products?

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Citizen K  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:30:44pm

OT: Holy hell, the auto play ads are at their worst now. I had two, one at the bottom and one on the side, that both started to play simultaneously, and the window kept flashing between both like slo-mo strobe, each one demanding window focus and refusing to relent for a good 10-15 seconds.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:30:55pm

So I see King’s audition for hosting a prime time show on Fox News is going perfectly.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:31:17pm

Also: immigrants, livestock - what’s the diff?

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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:31:47pm

My racist Aunt’s daughter lives in King’s district. I’m pretty sure she voted for him, more than once.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:34:10pm

Actual commercial for an Alabama Laywer:

Mike Slocumb Alabama Hammer “Big Bucks”

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:35:19pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

there’s a reason that, for a very long time, lawyers were not allowed to advertise.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:35:34pm

re: #4 makeitstop

Also: immigrants, livestock - what’s the diff?

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Well, one key difference is that livestock rarely have the materials or skills to short circuit or otherwise disable a portion of the fence’s electricity.

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:37:11pm

Saw this over at Wonkette. I had not read this Eisenhower quote before. The poster was referring to Trump’s increase of the military budget.

Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie • 2 hours ago
President Dwight Eisenhower’s opinion:

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. […] Is there no other way the world may live?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:37:49pm

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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Franklin  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:38:46pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:39:19pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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The “Two Cows” parables are so much bullshit…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:39:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:40:03pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

What? You didn’t know any schmuck could breed cows? It’s easy!

//

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allegro  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:42:11pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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And when the cow has a bad pregnancy the conservative forces her to carry to term even though the calf is dead and the cow won’t survive. That leaves them with a bull that doesn’t give milk and just shits a lot.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:44:11pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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Sounds like something Curt Schilling thought up during his free time.

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allegro  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:45:01pm

re: #16 allegro

And when the cow has a bad pregnancy the conservative forces her to carry to term even though the calf is dead and the cow won’t survive. That leaves them with a bull that doesn’t give milk and just shits a lot.

Or the conservative builds a herd from only two genetic donors and the lack of diversity results in a herd of… Palins.

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Franklin  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:45:39pm

re: #17 Sir John Barron

Sounds like something Curt Schilling thought up during his free time.

Nah, the liberal would have been breeding transgendered cows if Schill had made that meme.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:49:17pm

re: #1 KGxvi

What the fuck is in the water in Iowa? And is it getting into our food products?

Brawndo!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:49:36pm

Trump is probably wondering what all the fuss concerning King’s tweet is about.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:50:02pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

This will be like that media accountability survey that Team Trump dreamed up and that the evil libtards sabotaged by answering the survey questions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:50:02pm

Trump says government is ready for the blizzard: “Let’s hope it’s not going to be as bad as some people are predicting. Usually it isn’t.”

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sagehen  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:50:15pm

re: #10 Ming5000

Saw this over at Wonkette. I had not read this Eisenhower quote before. The poster was referring to Trump’s increase of the military budget.

Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie • 2 hours ago
President Dwight Eisenhower’s opinion:

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. […] Is there no other way the world may live?”

One of my all-time favorite Ike quotes.

Also, one of the reasons the John Birch Society insisted Ike was a willing agent of the Soviets.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:50:41pm

re: #2 Citizen K

OT: Holy hell, the auto play ads are at their worst now. I had two, one at the bottom and one on the side, that both started to play simultaneously, and the window kept flashing between both like slo-mo strobe, each one demanding window focus and refusing to relent for a good 10-15 seconds.

Sorry about that. I turned off the ad network I think may be responsible for that. Let me know if you’re still seeing these ads after reloading.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:50:45pm

re: #18 allegro

Or the conservative builds a herd from only two genetic donors and the lack of diversity results in a herd of… Palins.

Yeah, would be a lot smarter to keep the two cows and rent a bull.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:51:11pm

She visits with the yam on Friday.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:52:15pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:52:18pm

Carried over from the last thread:

Every year the local high school here does an “honor and remember” sort of presentation for veterans on or near Veterans Day.

Amongst other things they do is the school band plays the marching songs of each military service (Off We Go for the Air Force, Anchors Aweigh for the Navy, Semper Paratus for the Coast Guard, &c). Veterans stand when the particular song for their service is played.

Since this is a small community and everyone knows everyone else in the county, the Coasties who served in Korea, Vietnam, and other wars and conflicts will stand as well.

I would not expect wingnuts to understand what it is the Coast Guard does (during wartime port security for the Navy, patrols, &c). In our village cemetery there are members of the Coast Guard who were killed in combat.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:52:59pm

Conservative:

“You have two cows. Your rich neighbor has 20,000,000 cows and insists that society be arranged so that his herd gets bigger every year for free. You won’t be keeping your two cows very long because of that.”

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Citizen K  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:53:21pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Sorry about that. I turned off the ad network I think may be responsible for that. Let me know if you’re still seeing these ads after reloading.

Still getting those, though they don’t seem to be doubling up at this point at least.

If if helps, the video ads doing it are the ones with the red triangle logo with the swoop-cut out. Dunno what logo that is, but yeah.

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unproven innocence  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:53:39pm

Tommy Smothers said (at 2:20)
There is one word that exists in every language on the face of the earth and every society… TRUTH. …Truth is what you get other people to believe.

Message From Tommy Smothers At The 60th Annual Emmy Awards

Voltaire said something about absurdities and atrocities —before the French Revolution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:54:05pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Conservative:

“You have two cows. Your rich neighbor has 20,000,000 cows and insists that society be arranged so that his herd gets bigger every year for free. You won’t be keeping your two cows very long because of that.”

“and those 20,000,000 cows get to graze in any national park your neighbor chooses.”

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:54:19pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:55:11pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Conservative:

“You have two cows. Your rich neighbor has 20,000,000 cows and insists that society be arranged so that his herd gets bigger every year for free. You won’t be keeping your two cows very long because of that.”

Thanks! I need good rejoinders to deal with derp.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:55:14pm

Steve King: A History Of Racism (right-wing watch.org)

Link

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:55:19pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:55:32pm

re: #34 Kragar

Ditto on the ‘no’. Merkel is civilized. Trump is a barbarian.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:55:42pm

re: #31 Citizen K

Still getting those, though they don’t seem to be doubling up at this point at least.

If if helps, the video ads doing it are the ones with the red triangle logo with the swoop-cut out. Dunno what logo that is, but yeah.

Give it a few more minutes - sometimes the ads don’t stop getting served right away when I disable them. Let me know if it’s still happening in about 15 minutes.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:56:18pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She visits with the yam on Friday.

‘Half-jokingly’, the other half is the most vile slurs he could think of. I am assuming ‘he’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 12:57:46pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:00:01pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:00:15pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Clinton Foundation. Highly rated, extremely transparent.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:00:29pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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Conservative
You have two cows. They are both white and black in color. You ignore them and buy albino rats.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:01:57pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Conservative
You have two cows. They are both white and black in color. You ignore them and buy albino rats.

Conservative. You don’t give your cow grass and then it starves and then you blame the cow for being hungry.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:02:57pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Conservative:

“You have two cows. Your rich neighbor has 20,000,000 cows and insists that society be arranged so that his herd gets bigger every year for free. You won’t be keeping your two cows very long because of that.”

You are a no good lazy loafer and have only two cows. Your neighbor pulled himself up by his bootstraps without no government aid and has 20,000,000 cows. You shut up!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:05:30pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So lemme get this straight, the government she refused assistance to is at fault for not providing her the assistance she refused?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:05:36pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Conservative. You don’t give your cow grass and then it starves and then you blame the cow for being hungry.

Conservative.
You have two cows. You shoot one by accident while cleaning your AR-15, but you’re still a good guy with a gun/patriot.

*fixed typo*

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:06:49pm

With the CBO scoring due this afternoon, you know the GOP is grateful for a valid reason not to answer their phones into the evening

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:08:02pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:08:25pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Conservative.
You have two cows. You shoot one my accident while cleaning your AR-15, but you’re still a good guy with a gun/patriot.

Conservative. You have two cows and actually think cattle can explain economics.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:08:54pm
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451_Montag  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:08:55pm

Quick question. Is it normal for my garlic press to be tapping out morse code? And where the hell did it get a mobile phone?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:09:06pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Conservatives.

You have two cows. You graze them on federal land without paying grazing fees and they do tremendous damage to ecology of federal lands because you don’t care where they roam or do damage to water supply. The cows go hungry and you have an armed standoff with federal officials who seek payment. You claim ownership of federal lands that never belonged to you.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:09:16pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Shared by Sarah Palin on FB…

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I had to look up the “two cows” parable to find out where it came from: The Wall Street Journal in 1938.

barrypopik.com

“You have two cows…” is the start of a joke that’s also called the “Parable of the Isms.” The joke illustrates what happens to the two cows under Socialism, Communism, Capitalism, Naziiism, New Dealism, Idealism, Realism, Bushism, Obamaism, and other “-isms.”

The Wall Street Journal published the joke on November 15, 1938. The joke might have originated either there or in the Chicago Journal of Commerce (which was also given credit in November 1938).

(more at the link)

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bratwurst  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:09:55pm

And now, our regular check-in with the “new” Glenn Beck…a man made better by 8 years of Obama that some think we need to listen to as we confront the Trump era:

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:10:06pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:10:14pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:11:15pm

re: #56 bratwurst

And now, our regular check-in with the “new” Glenn Beck…a man made better by 8 years of Obama that some think we need to listen to as we confront the Trump era:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:11:22pm

Palin: You have two cattle. You quit farming and ranching because you can’t stand the criticism but still appear on tv and Facebook to tell other ranchers and farmersxwhat to do.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:12:36pm

re: #56 bratwurst

And now, our regular check-in with the “new” Glenn Beck…a man made better by 8 years of Obama that some think we need to listen to as we confront the Trump era:

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Still has Nazi Tourette’s. Even if that was true, lots of dictators have been Christian and I don’t see Glenn using that to demonize Christianity.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:13:45pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

So lemme get this straight, the government she refused assistance to is at fault for not providing her the assistance she refused?

& I’m sure all the sycophants all had straight faces.

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Franklin  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:13:47pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Palin: You have two cattle. You quit farming and ranching because you can’t stand the criticism but still appear on tv and Facebook to tell other ranchers and farmersxwhat to do.

Palin is hired on a 4 year ranching contract. She quits after two years and starts a facebook group.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:13:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:14:00pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:14:13pm

re: #36 JordanRules

Steve King: A History Of Racism (right-wing watch)

Link

The same Iowa congressman who has a Dixie Swastika flag on his desk, despite over a thousand Iowans dying in the Civil War.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:14:19pm

Have to read through the full scoring, but combine that with the JCT, and this is an epic shit show the GOP has on its hands. They’re going to make health care unaffordable for millions, millions will lose insurance, and their saving grace is that the CBO will say that it reduces the deficit over 10 years. That’s because all the burdens get shifted to the insureds (or formerly insureds).

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:15:14pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Conservatives.

You have two cows. You graze them on federal land without paying grazing fees and they do tremendous damage to ecology of federal lands because you don’t care where they roam or do damage to water supply. The cows go hungry and you have an armed standoff with federal officials who seek payment. You claim ownership of federal lands that never belonged to you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:15:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:16:50pm
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:17:38pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:17:44pm
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Franklin  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:18:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:18:20pm

re: #66 Anymouse

The same Iowa congressman who has a Dixie Swastika flag on his desk, despite over a thousand Iowans dying in the Civil War.

Northern CSA apologists are the worst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:18:51pm

re: #71 lawhawk

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Serious question:
Has FEMA done any actual/significant disaster assistance since the yam took office?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:19:22pm

re: #73 Franklin

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Not fair to the gremlins, Gabe. They’re leftovers from Wallace’s AIP and Rockwell’s American Nazi Party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:20:58pm
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:22:08pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s been a handful of disaster declarations since January 20. Severe storms through the Southeast. But think this is the first real test of FEMA and Trump’s natural disaster response policies. After all, we’re talking about 120-150 million or more people who are affected by this storm track from the Carolinas and Upper Midwest all the way through the Middle Atlantic and into New England.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:22:18pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Conservative.
You have two cows. You shoot one my accident while cleaning your AR-15, but you’re still a good guy with a gun/patriot.

You have two cows. You lose your pasture to feed them because someone seizes your land to build a giant wall on the border.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:24:27pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Feature not a bug.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:25:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:25:47pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Conservatives.

You have two cows. You graze them on federal land without paying grazing fees and they do tremendous damage to ecology of federal lands because you don’t care where they roam or do damage to water supply. The cows go hungry and you have an armed standoff with federal officials who seek payment. You claim ownership of federal lands that never belonged to you.

They try to feed us a line of bull and get angry when we have a cow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:26:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:26:56pm
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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:27:57pm
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:28:26pm

That table also highlights how the GOP back loaded the cuts so that they don’t get hit right away.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:29:27pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s important, because 14 growing to 24 million losing insurance coverage has a … detrimental effect on the economy and who spends what and how.

And no HSA can save these folks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:31:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:31:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:32:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:33:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:34:28pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:35:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:35:25pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:36:45pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:37:26pm

But…11 million of those losing coverage next year would be ILLEGALS…and they’re being deported…

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:38:28pm

re: #78 lawhawk

There’s been a handful of disaster declarations since January 20. Severe storms through the Southeast. But think this is the first real test of FEMA and Trump’s natural disaster response policies. After all, we’re talking about 120-150 million or more people who are affected by this storm track from the Carolinas and Upper Midwest all the way through the Middle Atlantic and into New England.

Mississippi is still waiting for a response to the Hattiesburg tornado outbreak in January.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:38:37pm

re: #8 calochortus

Well, one key difference is that livestock rarely have the materials or skills to short circuit or otherwise disable a portion of the fence’s electricity.

They also don’t have the skills to take a boat and enter elsewhere on the southern border; with the planned cutbacks in the Coast Guard, immigrants should have no problems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:40:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:40:51pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:43:59pm
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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:45:00pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

Ryan’s minions will believe it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:45:50pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

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How sad that reading comprehension was not one of the skills Ryan acquired from his education paid for by other people’s money.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:46:44pm

My wife just weighed in on this Dumpster fire of a Wealthcare programme: All it would take is one deadly flu epidemic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:46:56pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:47:31pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

I have access to a McLaren F1. That doesn’t mean I can buy one.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:47:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:48:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:48:45pm

damit….
:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:49:41pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:50:08pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

The $935b is about taking things from the elderly, sick, poor and middle class.

The $599b is largely about giving things to the rich

And?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:50:23pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:50:58pm

re: #8 calochortus

Well, one key difference is that livestock rarely have the materials or skills to short circuit or otherwise disable a portion of the fence’s electricity.

You’d be surprised!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:51:03pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

I have great access, the best access. Let me show you all my access.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:55:10pm

GOP will crow about the cost-savings (assuming there are any—the inability to analyze macroeconomic effects renders the cost-savings suspect). They will also point out that it is a good thing that the 17 million without care in 2018 would be “by choice”, since the mandate goes away. This, of course, shows a horrific understanding of risk pools and the cheapest ways to provide insurance. It also doesn’t really factor in those that would still buy insurance, regardless of mandate, but who get priced out of the market.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:55:34pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:58:23pm

re: #114 Sir John Barron

I have great access, the best access. Let me show you all my access.

And while the GOP is after health insurance now, they are also going after the VA and CHAMPUS/Tricare as well. While my wife and I are safe from the current round of granny-starving, we won’t be from the next one.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:58:46pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And how many people die in the intervening 8 years because they can’t afford coverage?

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2017 • 1:59:24pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Actual ‘Conservative’.

Once you have a herd of cows your neighbour forms a gang and steals your cows. A third of both gang members and cows die in the crossfire.

You form a gang to steal yours back, and take his as well in revenge. A third of both gang members and cows die in the crossfire.

Then one of your gang members cuts your throat and takes off with a third of the cows. The rest are taken by the other gang members. A third of both gang members and cows die in the crossfire.

This continues until everyone is reduced to a hunter-gatherer level. ‘Conservatives’ are happy with this because it’s the purest form of tradition.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:01:07pm

re: #118 Mike Lamb

And how many people die in the intervening 8 years because they can’t afford coverage?

GOPDon’tCare — it’s not the wealthy who will die.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:01:20pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I read correctly, AHCA would raise annual insurance cost for 64-year-old w/$26,500 income by $12,900. They went forward with this?

Jon Podhoretz whined that it’s not fair to say that millions will LOSE insurance, because, really, they’ll opt out.

Much as I opted out of buying the Bentley I could never dream of affording, for example.

Oh, and the whole thing saves only $337 Billion over 10 years. It would have been nearly $1 Trillion, except for the $600 Billion in tax cuts exclusively for the very wealthiest.

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nines09  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:01:21pm

re: #118 Mike Lamb

And how many people die in the intervening 8 years because they can’t afford coverage?

That is a hidden feature. That thought brings smiles to some. Who haven’t figured out they are in that line.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:02:24pm

I hate the ‘must read’ thing, but it’s worth some time if you have it to spare, particularly if you are adept at comparing Europe to the US.

[…]

“Voter racism,” they conclude, “pushes both parties in the United States significantly to the right on economic issues.”

The upshot is that a significant shift to the left on economic policy issues might fail to attract white Trump supporters, even in the working class. It could even plausibly hurt the Democrats politically by reminding whites just how little they want their dollars to go to “those people.” One can only imagine what Trump would tweet.

[…]

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:03:34pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

Remember: “Populism” = “reality denying”…

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:03:57pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:04:45pm

Well, I’m off to town. Catch y’all later.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:05:31pm

re: #118 Mike Lamb

And how many people die in the intervening 8 years because they can’t afford coverage?

Also, too, how many will die once the premiums are affordable because the policies won’t cover a fucking band aid much less major surgery?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:06:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:07:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:08:51pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

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I hate the ‘must read’ thing, but it’s worth some time if you have it to spare, particularly if you are adept at comparing Europe to the US.

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

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But hey, the richest 1% will have $600 Billion more to play with, so it’s all worth it!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:09:01pm

Last time I had a job off-the-farm (pre-ACA), my employer offered health insurance.
My monthly premium would have been more than my net pay.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:09:14pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

Conservative:

“You have two cows. Your rich neighbor has 20,000,000 cows and insists that society be arranged so that his herd gets bigger every year for free. You won’t be keeping your two cows very long because of that.”

“Your rich neighbor doesn’t like the competition, shoots your two cows, says ‘see you in court’.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:11:07pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Conservative. You don’t give your cow grass and then it starves and then you blame the cow for being hungry.

Conservative: you let your cows run wild to graze on government land and when the Bureau of Land Management seizes your herd for the unpaid grazing fees, you and your clan illegally occupy a wildlife refuge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:11:14pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:12:05pm

Honestly I can fucking feel it. Like I’ve skipped several doses of my meds, except I haven’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:12:44pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:12:45pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Conservatives.

You have two cows. You graze them on federal land without paying grazing fees and they do tremendous damage to ecology of federal lands because you don’t care where they roam or do damage to water supply. The cows go hungry and you have an armed standoff with federal officials who seek payment. You claim ownership of federal lands that never belonged to you.

I did not see this before my post at the bottom of this thread.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:13:25pm

King’s claiming he just wants immigrants to assimiliate but I want to know what King honestly knows about immigration and immigrants. I doubt his district has that many immigrants. He’s a bigoted kook.

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fern01  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:13:58pm

GOP philosophy

Internal - kill off the poor
external - kill off the poor

The US has reached the top of the hatred scale under trump - love of $$$ and self interest of the wealthy by the wealthy for the wealthy - looking like Europe of French revolution times.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:14:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:16:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:16:51pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He needs to be considered for AG in the next Dem admin

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:17:28pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

“The CBO shouldn’t have evaluated the bill put before them without also considering these unicorn farts and fairy dust we claim to be working on!”

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:17:33pm

Conservatives live a strange alternate universe where they believe consumers can negotiate a la carte coverages with healthcare insurance companies….you know, like we can do with cable companies.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:17:57pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:18:23pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:19:04pm

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

And think of the ripple effects: a medical bankruptcy isn’t just discharging the debts owed directly to providers. It’s going to discharge the debts on 5 credit cards that were maxed out trying to keep up with the bills. It’s going to discharge the past due amounts on utility bills, etc. Costs go up to cover the bad debt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:19:17pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

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“The CBO shouldn’t have evaluated the bill put before them without also considering these unicorn farts and fairy dust we claim to be working on!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:20:06pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:20:22pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Secretary Tom Price on CBO: “We disagree strenuously with the report that was put out.”

— Dan Merica

“What part do you specifically disagree strenuously with?”

All of it, all the parts, it’s the best plan, just terrific, wonderful.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:20:37pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

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“The CBO shouldn’t have evaluated the bill put before them without also considering these unicorn farts and fairy dust we claim to be working on!”

More like

“The CBO shouldn’t have evaluated the bill put before them with out considering all the savings our re-implementation of Aktion T4 will create by getting rid of useless mouths.”

But being that open about their intent would be too much even for them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:20:40pm

re: #144 Dr. Matt

Conservatives live a strange alternate universe where they believe consumers can negotiate a la carte coverages with healthcare insurance companies….you know, like we can do with cable companies.

Conservatives live in a strange alternate universe per

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:21:04pm

re: #147 Mike Lamb

And think of the ripple effects: a medical bankruptcy isn’t just discharging the debts owed directly to providers. It’s going to discharge the debts on 5 credit cards that were maxed out trying to keep up with the bills. It’s going to discharge the past due amounts on utility bills, etc. Costs go up to cover the bad debt.

Good point, it will hit almost every sector of the economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:21:38pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:21:58pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

Price hits CBO for only scoring Phase 1 of their plan. Well they haven’t announced phases 2 &3 (and CBO doesn’t score regs)

“So, score our make believe parts anyway.”

/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:22:31pm

re: #144 Dr. Matt

Conservatives live a strange alternate universe where they believe consumers can negotiate a la carte coverages with healthcare insurance companies….you know, like we can do with cable companies.

The whole individual negotiation fantasy is at the heart of all their economic bullshit, especially in employment and compensation. Unions are bad because you should negotiate your own deal!

Half of them know that this is just to make workers powerless in the face of the corporations, and half of them are dumb enough to think this empowers the employee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:22:34pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:23:20pm

Evening Lizardim. So let me get this straight: The CBO reviewed the GOPDontCare bill and found it lacking. Now, of course, the CBO is just another librul disinfo propaganda outlet, like all the rest. Why do I let things like this surprise me anymore. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cold, post-snow day?

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:23:55pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Remove the mandate and remove the subsidies.

Replace with tax credits that don’t factor in prevailing costs for a particular locale.

That’s supposed to create more insureds? Come the fuck on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:24:21pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do they really have the authority to do that? If so, from whence is that authority derived?

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:24:38pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:24:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:26:30pm

re: #159 Mike Lamb

Remove the mandate and remove the subsidies.

Replace with tax credits that don’t factor in prevailing costs for a particular locale.

That’s supposed to create more insureds? Come the fuck on.

Add to that that the tax credits are a lot lower, and that the law allows for charging older Americans 5x as much as younger Americans.

64 years old, making $25,000? Your out-of-pocket, just for the premiums, is 1/2 your income.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:26:34pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If there was any justice in the world, Ryan would lose everything and be homeless and have to deal with the same condescending crap he says to other people. The man’s the ultimate right wing hypocrite. He owes so much of where he is to the government but yet he’s made his career trying to not allow other people to enjoy those same benefits. I hope Ryan’s shit catches up to him.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:26:52pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

This goes to the point raised just upthread: The entire GOP philosophy of “personal empowerment” is basically akin to, “Everyone is on a level playing field to get screwed by The Man.” Whether this is a conscious or subconscious consideration is based on their intelligence, specifically, their awareness that wealth helps unbalance the playing field.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:27:15pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Which again shows that the GOP is illiterate (or banking on the fact that their constituents are illiterate) when it comes to how health insurance operates…

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:27:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:28:00pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:29:02pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Well, it WOULD be $935 Billion over 10 years, but we give $600 Billion of it to the top 1%, because taking nearly all the gains since the 2008 Financial Crisis has not been enough for them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:29:19pm

Today is my niece’s third birthday. Miss her but know she’s having fun.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:29:42pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:29:50pm

And the sales job won’t be on the merits of the bill. It’s going to be on how the CBO is yet another bloated gov’t agency staffed by people that are Obama holdovers and/or that couldn’t hack it in the private sector. How long before they trot out a score from the newly formed Bannon Analytics to say how great the bill is and how the CBO is full of shit?

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:30:00pm

So, millions will lose insurance.

I’d wager that right now every single Trump voter is thinking that they’re not among those millions. What a shock they’re in for.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:30:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:31:25pm

re: #173 makeitstop

So, millions will lose insurance.

I’d wager that right now every single Trump voter is thinking that they’re not among those millions. What a shock they’re in for.

Knowing those tools. They’ll blame the Dems when they lose their insurance and when they see other people lose their insurance, they’ll blame them for it. Trump voters will never own up to the fact that they elected a bastard because they hate liberals more than they want progress.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:32:00pm

re: #173 makeitstop

So, millions will lose insurance.

I’d wager that right now every single Trump voter is thinking that they’re not among those millions. What a shock they’re in for.

24 million people is 8% of the country’s population. Given that we can eliminate the top wage-earners from the equation because not only will they not lose jack shit, but they’ll actually benefit from this, it’s safe to say that if 10 Trump voters were in the same room together, on average, one of them would be without insurance.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:32:04pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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Thanks Obama. // But hey let’s hear some more about economic anxiety from people who wanted for a guy who clearly doesn’t giev a fuck about them.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:32:51pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

Actually the 64 year old won’t be paying anything because who could afford to pay half of their net pay for insurance?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:34:18pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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Ah, but they’d be free to forgo health insurance! To ‘opt out’, as Jon Podhoretz put it. And if they choose to opt back in, they get to pay $19,000!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:35:27pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Actually the 64 year old won’t be paying anything because who could afford to pay half of their net pay for insurance?

The 64 yr old is ultimately free to take someone with him.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:35:37pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

If there was any justice in the world, Ryan would lose everything and be homeless and have to deal with the same condescending crap he says to other people. The man’s the ultimate right wing hypocrite. He owes so much of where he is to the government but yet he’s made his career trying to not allow other people to enjoy those same benefits. I hope Ryan’s shit catches up to him.

We’re I The Doctor, I would travel back in time, tell Ryan’s dad that being a lawyer is going to kill him, and that he needs to open up a sandwich shop somewhere. Then, when I was in a bad mood, I would find the older Paul Ryan and tell him what happened because his dad lived.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:04pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Actually the 64 year old won’t be paying anything because who could afford to pay half of their net pay for insurance?

But they’ll have ACCESS!!! Whatever the fuck that means. I guess it’s something like EXPOSURE!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:23pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Actually the 64 year old won’t be paying anything because who could afford to pay half of their net pay for insurance?

Especially when they’re already paying that much in rent / mortgage. This plan is fucking insane from a basic electoral standpoint.

It’s been easy for them to blame immigrants for job losses, but the GOP is leaving their fingerprints all over this healthcare fiasco.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:28pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:47pm

re: #183 Blind Frog Belly White

But they’ll have ACCESS!!! Whatever the fuck that means. I guess it’s something like EXPOSURE!!!

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They’ll have an all-access pass to JACK SHIT because they can’t afford the entry fee!

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:36:57pm

The price of failing Bigly.

Yahoo to give Marissa Mayer $23 million parting gift after sale to Verizon

arstechnica.com

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:37:14pm

I have this song stuck in my head, damn you SiriusXM Alternative channel!

Silversun Pickups - Latchkey Kids (Official Music Video)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:38:04pm

re: #181 Belafon

We’re I The Doctor, I would travel back in time, tell Ryan’s dad that being a lawyer is going to kill him, and that he needs to open up a sandwich shop somewhere. Then, when I was in a bad mood, I would find the older Ryan and tell him what happened because his dad lived.

Heh. I just cannot stand Ryan’s hypocritical bullshit. It was so funny to me when Romney attacked Obama’s “private sector” record and then went along and chose a guy who has been in the government his entire career. Ryan’s definitely someone I’m not buying the “He’s not so bad” crap on.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:38:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:38:33pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

The price of failing Bigly.

Yahoo to give Marissa Mayer $23 million parting gift after sale to Verizon

arstechnica.com

And people wonder why people embrace parts of socialism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:39:25pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

The price of failing Bigly.

Yahoo to give Marissa Mayer $23 million parting gift after sale to Verizon

arstechnica.com

My sad lot in life is that I am unable to fail on so large a scale.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:40:35pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

The price of failing Bigly.

Yahoo to give Marissa Mayer $23 million parting gift after sale to Verizon

arstechnica.com

So if Mayer were a failure with a dick, the bonus would be 30 million? Unfair.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:40:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:40:58pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:41:27pm

This sounds like it’s on the up and up.

NRA makes $1 million ad buy to push Gorsuch Supreme Court nomination

sanluisobispo.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:41:29pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

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IOW, redistribution of wealth. UP.

Like Dennis Moore, Ryan/Trumpcare “robs from the poor, to give to the rich! Stupid bitch!”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:41:32pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:41:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:41:40pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Old Man Putin! //

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:42:00pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

This sounds like it’s on the up and up.

NRA makes $1 million ad buy to push Gorsuch Supreme Court nomination

sanluisobispo.com

That’s another group I’d love to see karma hit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:42:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:42:12pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“It’s not a President! Look! It’s OLD MAN TRUMP!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:42:39pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

“It’s not a President! Look! It’s OLD MAN TRUMP!!!”

Jinkies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:43:06pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:43:23pm

re: #179 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly. Opt out. Get your estimate for a new policy a few years later when you decided to have a kid. Note that the company just tacked on a 30% premium hike for lack of continuous coverage. Opt for un-medicated, un-supervised, un-sterile home birth. Buy kids vaccinations from Tijuana or a vetrinary clinic—no more kennel cough for anyone!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:44:11pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

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Good point. That 64 year old guy making $26,500 either won’t be buying the insurance (less $ to insurer, fewer employees paid), OR won’t be buying as much food, or pretty much anything else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:45:26pm
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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:46:11pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

What about the hundreds of thousands of jobs in health care that will be lost?

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:46:55pm

re: #209 retired cynic

What about the hundreds of thousands of jobs in health care that will be lost?

They can get jobs in the coal mines.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:46:55pm

re: #209 retired cynic

What about the hundreds of thousands of jobs in health care that will be lost?

We expect openings in the Slocum tomato fields.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:03pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

At first I read that headline as “shitstorm”

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:04pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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I’m running out of evens…

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:35pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:47pm
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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:54pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

At first I read that headline as “shitstorm”

Yeah, that too.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:47:59pm

re: #358 jaunte

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Let’s play Where’s Vlado.

Here is the Steele dossier:

documentcloud.org

Could anyone please point out those 9 dead Russians in it?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:48:48pm
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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:49:00pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

Looks like certain governments​ learned how to play ball with the U.S. pretty quickly.

This makes me ill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:49:39pm

At SXSW in Austin last week, as part of a marketing campaign for “The Man in the High Castle,” Amazon launched “Resistance Radio,” a fake Internet-based radio station broadcast by the fictional American “Resistance” from the show.

“Hijacking the airwaves, a secret network of DJs broadcast messages of hope to keep the memory of a former America alive,” the website said. Click through, and an interactive image of an antique, dual-knob radio appears while mod tunes drift through your computer’s speakers. In between songs, DJs on three different stations speak about how to fight the “Reich” in America.

Soon #ResistanceRadio, the campaign’s sponsored hashtag, spread like wildfire on Twitter. Some Trump supporters seemingly mistook it for an anti-Trump radio station and expressed their displeasure. (Amazon founder Jeffrey P. Bezos owns The Washington Post.)

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:50:51pm

re: #217 Nyet

Liberal fake news is still fake news.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:51:48pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s not fake, but you can only pick it up on a hand-built crystal receiver.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:52:05pm

re: #209 retired cynic

What about the hundreds of thousands of jobs in health care that will be lost?

I know you’re joking, but ER’s will be hiring like crazy to deal with the influx of uninsured patients. Except those medical bills will cost more the same way rebuilding an engine costs more than an oil change. And instead of the government subsidizing insurance rates for the poor everyone will be paying to cover the vastly increased cost of those bankrupted obligations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:53:45pm

re: #223 goddamnedfrank

I fully expect the GOP to go after the law that requires hospitals to treat those who can’t pay.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:54:57pm

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

I fully expect the GOP to go after the law that requires hospitals to treat those who can’t pay.

They already are. I read that there’s a bill that would allow hospitals to kick out even insured patients if they couldn’t afford the copay.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:55:45pm

re: #221 Nyet

Liberal fake news is still fake news.

IOW, bullshit is bullshit. But that takes us back to bucolic conservative economic memes.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:55:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:55:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:56:11pm

re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White

They already are. I read that there’s a bill that would allow hospitals to kick out even insured patients if they couldn’t afford the copay.

SMDH.

We might be a 3rd world country before this is all over.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:57:24pm

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

SMDH.

We might be a 3rd world country before this is all over.

Y’all get around here much?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:58:26pm

re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White

They already are. I read that there’s a bill that would allow hospitals to kick out even insured patients if they couldn’t afford the copay.

Jesus. How can anyone seriously propose something like this? Cold-blooded murder is what it amounts to.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:59:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 2:59:40pm

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

SMDH.

We might be a 3rd world country before this is all over.

IMHO we already are, have been one since January 20th 2001. Obama was nice vacation but nothing structural about our flawed electoral system was fixed and now we’re on the hockey stick portion of the curve towards nationalism.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:00:39pm

Classic.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:00:40pm

re: #232 Blind Frog Belly White

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:01:13pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:01:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:01:58pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

Jesus. How can anyone seriously propose something like this? Cold-blooded murder is what it amounts to.

I saw something yesterday that made me shake my head in sheer wonderment. One of the West Virginians interviewed for a “They Voted For Trump, Now They’re Fucked” article was a laid-off coal miner. He wasn’t worried about what Trump was gonna do to the ACA, because he figured Trump would get him his job in the mines back and he’d have good benefits.

I really don’t know what to say to that kind of thinking.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:03:11pm

re: #232 Blind Frog Belly White

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:03:18pm

Larry Klayman Will Be Jeff Sessions’ ‘Hamburger Helper’ To Help Him Put The ‘Evil Forces Of The Left’ In Prison

“I commend Attorney General Jeff Sessions,” Klayman said, “and I hope to work with him in this noble goal. This is just round one. It’s time that the evil forces of the left be legally destroyed. In this world that we live in today, it’s either them or us; the two of us cannot live side-by-side. One is going to have to go, legally, peacefully. But these people who are trying to destabilize the Trump presidency and not have this country be made great again, frankly, they need to be thrown in prison.”

rightwingwatch.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:04:36pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

I saw something yesterday that made me shake my head in sheer wonderment. One of the West Virginians interviewed for a “They Voted For Trump, Now They’re Fucked” article was a laid-off coal miner. He wasn’t worried about what Trump was gonna do to the ACA, because he figured Trump would get him his job in the mines back and he’d have good benefits.

I really don’t know what to say to that kind of thinking.

And that former coal miner walks with a cane and has several serious health conditions (including diabetes and high blood pressure).
There is no way he would ever be hired to work in a coal mine ever again, even if those jobs came back (which they aren’t).

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Joe Bacon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:05:01pm

re: #215 I Would Prefer Not To

Ryan is on my list…

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He held out for 60.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:06:04pm

re: #240 Skip Intro

Larry Klayman Will Be Jeff Sessions’ ‘Hamburger Helper’ To Help Him Put The ‘Evil Forces Of The Left’ In Prison

rightwingwatch.org

wondering which state Klayman is going to be nominated for US Attorney…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:07:38pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

wondering which state Klayman is going to be nominated for US Attorney…

Is it OK for us lefties to start stocking 12 gauge again?

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:08:21pm

Man, when Josh Marshall is reduced to posting gifs, you know we’ve arrived in strangeland.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:08:32pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:12:10pm

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:12:48pm

Trump didn’t read the plan he supports. He doesn’t care.
Ryan doesn’t care that his plan kicks millions off coverage all to give massive tax cuts to people who don’t need them and shifting the burdens to those least able to afford them.

How does the CBO arrive at premiums dropping at the back end of their computations? They figure that millions of older/sicker people wont be able to afford coverage, so presto-chango, the numbers work. Millions lose access to care, and the GOP thinks this is a good thing.

These heartless fuckers deserve to be punished for putting out this bullshit. But I wonder if the Democrats can generate the needed groundswell to retake Congress in 2018, or to win those few statehouse rounds this year.

These kinds of numbers should be the death of the GOP. It wont, because too many GOPers think that tax cuts designed to go to the 1% will somehow benefit them.

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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:13:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:13:33pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:13:44pm

re: #248 Scottish Dragon

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Said no Skeksis ever.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:14:12pm
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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:14:18pm

“some”

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:14:30pm

re: #240 Skip Intro

Larry Klayman Will Be Jeff Sessions’ ‘Hamburger Helper’ To Help Him Put The ‘Evil Forces Of The Left’ In Prison

rightwingwatch.org

Holy shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:14:55pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that former coal miner walks with a cane and has several serious health conditions (including diabetes and high blood pressure).
There is no way he would ever be hired to work in a coal mine ever again, even if those jobs came back (which they aren’t).

I missed that part. What did he think he’d get a job doing?

BTW, Josh Marshall did a Twitter thread yesterday pointing out a couple interesting things about coal mining. The shocker to me was that in about 1920, a million people were employed in the coal industry. That number started to drop, somewhere along about 1925. Meanwhile, the peak of employment was nowhere near the peak of production, which was around maybe 1990.

The upshot was that miners were 1% of all people in America, a huge bloc in the labor force and largely unionized by 1940. There were so many that a lot of the decrease in union membership nationally was simply the loss of jobs in coal mining.

It provides some perspective on why Trump used the “We’re gonna bring back COAL!” lie, because bad as the work was, it paid well and kept families fed. Those jobs aren’t coming back, and Trump knew it when he said it. But he got a lot of people to vote against their own interests by promising it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:15:22pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:19:25pm

Rex Huppke, Chicago Tribune: Rep. Steve King shows it’s time to deport certain white men

It’s never easy to be a truth-teller, but as a white man I feel it necessary to say what many in this country are thinking: It’s time to start deporting certain white men.

Not all of them, of course. Some are quite good.

But people like Iowa Rep. Steve King have got to go — for the good of our culture, our demographics and our civilization.

I reached that conclusion Sunday after King got on Twitter to express his agreement with the views of virulently anti-Muslim Dutch politician Geert Wilders.

Former CIA operative Evan McMullin, a thoughtful conservative who ran for president, co-founded a Trump-opposed group called Stand Up Republic that is trying to “help Americans stand up in defense of the fundamental principles that have made this country the true home of liberty and a source of hope for many around the world.”

McMullin tweeted about King’s comment, saying the congressman “promotes the un-American ideas of white nationalism” and asking: “Will any Republican congressmen condemn his bigotry?”

Perhaps a few, but not enough. Which brings us back to the ways in which our culture — our true American culture — is being threatened by certain white men.

Our rich culture and diverse demographics make us great. And in order to maintain our civilization, we’ve got to deport babies like King and Duke and Chaffetz and Marshall.

I want to assure everyone that the removal of these men will be very humane. We might even consider just putting them all in Florida and jettisoning the state into the sea. (Trump already has a place down there he seems to like, so he’ll be comfortable.)

Better yet, we can just make clear to certain white men that our American values forbid us from accepting their rhetoric. We can extend a hand to people in need, embrace all actual babies, be the country that doesn’t abandon its principles out of fear, and knock down walls — physical and ideological — that try to keep us separate.

That will make life intolerable for certain white men like King. And then, if we’re lucky, they may just self-deport.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:21:06pm

re: #124 Eric The Fruit Bat

Remember: “Populism” = “reality denying”…

I’m not opposed to all forms of populism because much prior US reform was driven by populist movements.

Trumpism is stupid and malicious populism, and is horrifying because of its stupidity and malice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:25:39pm

re: #253 lawhawk

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How many did they have before?

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:29:31pm

re: #215 I Would Prefer Not To

Who exactly is Ryan supposed to have betrayed? That’s about the one thing he is not guilty of, since he always has been a tool of the plutocrats.

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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:30:48pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:31:10pm

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

Trump is probably wondering what all the fuss concerning King’s tweet is about.

Which perfectly explains why no GOP leaders have come out to condemn King’s blatantly racist comments. King is an out-and-out racist and yet has suffered no censure from his fellow Republicans.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:31:59pm

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

In many cases, one.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:32:20pm

re: #263 Jenner7

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:34:38pm

re: #263 Jenner7

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DoJ to Congress, right about now…

YouTube

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:35:49pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:36:31pm

re: #264 Patricia Kayden

Which perfectly explains why no GOP leaders have come out to condemn King’s blatantly racist comments. King is an out-and-out racist and yet has suffered no censure from his fellow Republicans.

We all know why that is.

There are only two kinds of Republicans:

1) Stone cold racists (e.g., Steve King) and

2) People so militantly indifferent to racism and instinctively opposed to doing anything about it that they might as well be stone cold racists (e.g., John Roberts).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:36:33pm

re: #264 Patricia Kayden

Which perfectly explains why no GOP leaders have come out to condemn King’s blatantly racist comments. King is an out-and-out racist and yet has suffered no censure from his fellow Republicans.

As Matt Yglesias pointed out,

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:36:36pm

White House: “We know that Obama was spying on the Trump campaign! We demand an immediate investigation!”

Congress: “Okay, we need to see all the documentation from the Obama administration regarding wiretaps run in the last year in office.”

DOJ: “Oh, those papers…hehe…could you give us a little more time?”

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:36:56pm

re: #268 Scottish Dragon

LOL!! Did he skip the part of the CBO report which predicted at least 24 million less insured in the near future? Delusional.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:38:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:39:57pm

re: #268 Scottish Dragon

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How in the everloving fuck does anything that reduced insured by 24 Million increase access? It’s like he’s not even trying to come within a mile of the truth.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:40:38pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

“It’s not a President! Look! It’s OLD MAN TRUMP!!!”

I’ve been calling him that for a while. He comes across as an addled old man who’s been watching Fox, rather than the President.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:41:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:41:50pm

re: #271 Targetpractice

White House: “We know that Obama was spying on the Trump campaign! We demand an immediate investigation!”

Congress: “Okay, we need to see all the documentation from the Obama administration regarding wiretaps run in the last year in office.”

DOJ: “Oh, those papers…hehe…could you give us a little more time?”

DOJ (sotto voce): Okay, there’s a blizzard coming in, so that means we have at least 3 more days. A new Twitter outburst, and we can probably push that through next weekend. Maybe they’ll forget by then.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:44:13pm

re: #274 Blind Frog Belly White

How in the everloving fuck does anything that reduced insured by 24 Million increase access? It’s like he’s not even trying to come within a mile of the truth.

Oh, by access he means like the theoretical access anybody has to go shopping at Tiffany’s for jewelry with a 6 figure price tag. Anybody is perfectly free to go in and “shop”.

You just can’t actually buy it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:45:11pm

re: #278 Scottish Dragon

Oh, by access he means like the theoretical access anybody has to go shopping at Tiffany’s for jewelry with a 6 figure price tag. Anybody is perfectly free to go in and “shop”.

You just can’t actually buy it.

Ah, like I have access to a Ferrari, because I’ve seen a couple.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:46:04pm

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:46:19pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

This reminds me….Kay, a former front-page, now frequent commented over at Balloon Juice had a really good theme of comments throughout the campaign about how little real vetting the media did on Don the Con and his fam. It was especially egregious from his hometown paper.

We knew everything about a Obama. No stone was unturned. There is so much on the record about this guy, having been in the public sphere for decades and most of the media just ran to the shiny email object and abdicated their duty.

They seriously enabled his rise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:47:06pm

re: #262 EPR-radar

Who exactly is Ryan supposed to have betrayed? That’s about the one thing he is not guilty of, since he always has been a tool of the plutocrats.

Indeed. He’s like the smarmy, ass kissing sidekick that always gets killed right before the main villain does.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:47:40pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:47:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:48:05pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:49:03pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:49:09pm

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Indeed. He’s like the smarmy, ass kissing sidekick that always gets killed right before the main villain does.

Grover Dill to Trump’s Scut Farkas.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:49:42pm

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:51:03pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

Grover Dill to Trump’s Scut Farkas.

Yes, that’s the perfect analogy.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:51:55pm

They are not bothering to hide it. SDNY DA Bhahara was investigating serious wire and mail fraud allegations at Fox News…and then he was gone. It looks like his replacement will be an actual former Fox News lawyer…so expect the grand jury that was already empaneled to be scuttled quickly and the investigation crushed. This is Argentina Peron style shit.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:52:40pm

Trumpcare will kill tens of thousand of people but estimates vary. Here are three.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:52:47pm

Awkward.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:57:14pm

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 3:58:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:01:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:03:11pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:05:30pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

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If I hear a single Bro tell me “Hillary would have been worse!,”, I may suffer a stroke from the sudden spike in blood pressure.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:06:41pm

re: #293 Blind Frog Belly White

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:07:16pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s politically embarrassing for the GOP to run a developed nation where millions can’t get health care, but the GOP doesn’t want to pay for health care.

Inevitably they will propose some scheme for liquidating the sick and disabled, all quiet-like to avoid bad publicity. GOPDonTCare is merely the first such attempt.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:07:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:07:53pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

If I hear a single Bro tell me “Hillary would have been worse!,”, I may suffer a stroke from the sudden spike in blood pressure.

Well, there’s this bullshit:

A West Virginia coal miner explains why he voted for Donald Trump. Watch a special All In America tonight at 8PM ET #AllInwithBernie

freaking opportunistic vulture.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:09:49pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:09:54pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

If I hear a single Bro tell me “Hillary would have been worse!,”, I may suffer a stroke from the sudden spike in blood pressure.

How do they answer the simple question of how Hillary Clinton could possibly have been worse than the Orange Smegma Elemental presently polluting the white house and the entire executive branch?

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:10:29pm

re: #299 EPR-radar

It’s politically embarrassing for the GOP to run a developed nation where millions can’t get health care, but the GOP doesn’t want to pay for health care.

Inevitably they will propose some scheme for liquidating the sick and disabled, all quiet-like to avoid bad publicity. GOPDonTCare is merely the first such attempt.

They’re presently pushing a bill that will allow corporations to force you to submit your genetic information for the purpose of determining how fit you are. Next step: Allowing insurance companies to use that same information to deny you coverage.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:11:11pm

re: #303 EPR-radar

How do they answer the simple question of how Hillary Clinton could possibly have been worse than the Orange Smegma Elemental presently polluting the white house and the entire executive branch?

“BERNIE COULD HAVE WON!!!!”

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:12:16pm

re: #304 Targetpractice

They’re presently pushing a bill that will allow corporations to force you to submit your genetic information for the purpose of determining how fit you are. Next step: Allowing insurance companies to use that same information to deny you coverage.

Step 3, provide that information to a 21st century einsatzgruppen.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:12:30pm

Glenn Beck responds…

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:12:56pm

I wish mine at least played music!

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:14:24pm

re: #305 Targetpractice

“BERNIE COULD HAVE WON!!!!”

As the lawyers say, that point is non-responsive. The general election was Clinton vs. the Orange Smegma Elemental.

Even if I assume that every single far left and far-right fairy tale about Clinton were true, that would be insufficient reason to not vote for her in the election of 2016.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:19:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:19:58pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, there’s this bullshit:

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freaking opportunistic vulture.

If I were one of Bernie’s constituents, I’d be pissed. This is just obnoxious bs.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:20:27pm

Pat McCrory having a hard time getting a job after we booted him out of office…

newsobserver.com

I wish him every possible misery and more. He fucking has it coming.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:20:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:24:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:24:14pm

re: #312 Scottish Dragon

Pat McCrory having a hard time getting a job after we booted him out of office…

newsobserver.com

I wish him every possible misery and more. He fucking has it coming.

You chose ot push transphobia, Pat. No love for you. Grow up snowflake. Maybe the Christian Coalition will employ you.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:24:35pm

I went to my first Democratic Committee meeting yesterday.

I am now watching Life of Brian, draw your conclusions on my experience.

(Boring with a mix of incompetence and ratfucking.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:25:20pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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It’s stupid. There have been hundreds of murderous dictators throughout history who have been devout Christians. I don’t see Glenn using that as a means to delegitimize Christianity. He’s wrong about the Nazi’s environmentalism anyhow. Militarists aren’t environmentalists.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:25:29pm

re: #306 EPR-radar

Step 3, provide that information to a 21st century einsatzgruppen.

Nah, step 3 is to use the information to begin segregation of American citizens. Bar those deemed “genetically inferior” by saying the cost of accommodating them would be greater than the profit made from them. Businesses barring them from the workforce by saying they’d cost too much to employ, schools barring by saying they’d raise insurance costs, banks refusing to provide them loans or credit by saying they’d never pay it back, landlords refusing to rent to them, etc, etc.

Then step 4 is beginning to isolate those deemed “inferior,” moving them to gated communities we dare not call camps while assuring the public at large that this is for their own good. They’re homeless, jobless, disposed, and so these communities are to keep them from being a burden on those who are deemed “superior.” And use the placement in the communities as an excuse to get around constitutional rights, such as barring them from elections by saying that if they had a vote, they would elect sympathetic politicians who’d unleash them on society again.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:25:59pm

re: #316 Timothy Watson

I went to my first Democratic Committee meeting yesterday.

I am now watching Life of Brian, draw your conclusions on my experience.

(Boring with a mix of incompetence and ratfucking.)

I like a lot of our fellow Democrats and lefties but I get frustrated with them. It’s kind of how I feel like when I deal with other people on the spectrum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:26:00pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

If I were one of Bernie’s constituents, I’d be pissed. This is just obnoxious bs.

I remember when the returns were coming in the night of the WV primary, a lot of voters said they voted for Bernie but were going to vote for trump in the general.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:26:49pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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MOFO Beaner  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:26:56pm

re: #303 EPR-radar

“She’s a c**t!”

Actual response to this question from an inbred relation on FB, sans asterisks. There is no reasoning with these people

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:27:15pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember when the returns were coming in the night of the WV primary, a lot of voters said they voted for Bernie but were going to vote for trump in the general.

Yep and Bernie being the jackass he is thinks he’s Mr. Working Class and is the only one who understands them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:27:34pm

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

Mind you, Hitler was also a flatulent meth head.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:28:05pm

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

This is some Jonah Goldberg-level shit! ‘Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore vegetarians are Hitler!!!’

it’s really funny how that logic is never used with meat eaters and Christians because there were a lot more Nazis that were that.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:28:23pm

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

“Hitler just wanted every pure bred German to have 40 acres and a mule”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:28:25pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Yep and Bernie being the jackass he is thinks he’s Mr. Working Class and is the only one who understands them.

those voters flat out said they voted for bernie because he would be easier to beat than hillz in the general

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:28:57pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

those voters flat out said they voted for bernie because he would be easier to beat than hillz in the general

Yep.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:29:13pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

Scratch an anti-Muslim and you’ll find an anti-Semite.

And anti-black…and anti-hispanic/latino…and…

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:30:01pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Hitler wasn’t always a vegetarian, and he considered himself to be a Christian. I guess I don’t see Beck’s/Pantload’s point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:30:05pm

re: #326 Skip Intro

“Hitler just wanted every pure bred German to have 40 acres and a mule”.

As long as those 40 acres were in Poland, France, Austria, Czechoslovakia, etc…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:30:23pm

re: #330 Skip Intro

Hitler wasn’t always a vegetarian, and he considered himself to be a Christian. I guess I don’t see Beck’s/Pantload’s point.

Easy. Environmentalists baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:31:06pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Glenn Beck responds…

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Nazi “environmentalism” was for the benefit of one people: other Nazis. Lebensraum was not about overpopulation, it was about replacing indigenous “inferior” people with German settlers deemed “superior” to the natives. Not unlike our own “Manifest Destiny,” though the Nazis didn’t cloak genocide in religious terms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

re: #330 Skip Intro

Hitler wasn’t always a vegetarian, and he considered himself to be a Christian. I guess I don’t see Beck’s/Pantload’s point.

Congratulations! That would indicate you’re not full of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:31:53pm

re: #333 Targetpractice

Nazi “environmentalism” was for the benefit of one people: other Nazis. Lebensraum was not about overpopulation, it was about replacing indigenous “inferior” people with German settlers deemed “superior” to the natives. Not unlike our own “Manifest Destiny,” though the Nazis didn’t cloak genocide in religious terms.

Same thing with their brand of “socialism” too.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:32:48pm

re: #331 Blind Frog Belly White

As long as those 40 acres were in Poland, France, Austria, Czechoslovakia, etc…

Well yeah, because that’s where the natural resources were. He was, as the term used to be, a “land raper”. Just like the GOP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:33:01pm

re: #333 Targetpractice

Nazi “environmentalism” was for the benefit of one people: other Nazis. Lebensraum was not about overpopulation, it was about replacing indigenous “inferior” people with German settlers deemed “superior” to the natives. Not unlike our own “Manifest Destiny,” though the Nazis didn’t cloak genocide in religious terms.

Nah.. They used pseudoscientific ones.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

They also like pointing out Ernst Rohm and using him to attack gay people as Nazis while ignoring there were literally millions of other Nazis who were straight and the Nazis even encouraged German men and women to have as much children as possible.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:33:16pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Easy. Environmentalists baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Brought to you by the same people who think “The Pink Swastika” is not only factual, but is reason to oppose homosexuality in-toto.

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Scout  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:34:26pm

I just wrote a rather caustic email to the Democratic National Committee.

Here’s what happened. They sent me a fundraising email signed by Tom Perez, so I decided I wanted to kick in some money. I click on the link to go to their site, but it does not allow expats to make donations. You are required to fill in all of the fields, including “state” — I do not live in one of the 50 states, therefore I can’t complete it —and it requires a “zip code” — my postal code does not conform to the U.S. five-digit system.

It’s like amateur hour over there.

OK, my rant is done.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:35:19pm

re: #339 Targetpractice

Brought to you by the same people who think “The Pink Swastika” is not only factual, but is reason to oppose homosexuality in-toto.

Yep. Fucking Lively.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:36:16pm

Even as the Labor Department awaits confirmation of a new secretary, officials say enforcement actions are moving forward against companies accused of violating workplace safety rules.

There is just one issue: The public isn’t likely to know much about them.

In a sharp break with the past, the department has stopped publicizing fines against companies. As of Monday, seven weeks after the inauguration of President Trump, the department had yet to post a single news release about an enforcement fine.

snip

In addition to the rule on worker retaliation, several other OSHA regulations or standards, on issues like record-keeping practices and use of a mineral linked to a deadly lung disease, face delay or elimination.

Last week, the Senate passed a measure to repeal an Obama-era rule that required companies seeking significant federal contracts to disclose violations of labor standards, like safety and fair-pay rules, or instances when they were accused of such violations. The so-called blacklisting rule was intended to prevent companies that violated workplace regulations from getting federal money.

Alan Chvotkin, executive vice president for the Professional Services Council, a trade association that represents federal contractors, hailed the measure, which Mr. Trump may now sign into law. He said the rule was onerous and unfair, because companies had to report unproved accusations.

“The regulatory scheme was overly burdensome,” Mr. Chvotkin said. “We applaud the change.”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:38:30pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

Of course Glenn has aligned himself with those who would resurrect such laws to attack Muslims through Halal slaughterhouses.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:38:34pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:38:41pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Same thing with their brand of “socialism” too.

Here’s an odd quirk of history. By law, German employee-inventors must be compensated for their inventions, as opposed to the usual practice elsewhere of allowing employers to require employees to sign away all rights in inventions as a condition of employment.

That law was originally put in place by the Nazis.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:39:48pm

re: #293 Blind Frog Belly White

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MOFO Beaner  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:40:08pm

One of the largest redistributions of wealth, from poor to rich, we’ve ever seen, cutting $1 trillion from programs to support poor and middle-class families so that they can give an $883 billion tax cut to the wealthy.

“The Congressional Budget Office’s assessment of Republicans’ plan to replace Obamacare is a description of one of the largest, most significant income redistribution programs the US government has ever considered — from the poor to the wealthy rather than the other way around.

The plan, the CBO concludes, would take more than $1 trillion away from programs targeting poor and middle-class families, to fund an $883 billion tax cut targeted at the wealthy. It is upward income redistribution of a truly massive scale.”

vox.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:40:24pm

re: #345 EPR-radar

Here’s an odd quirk of history. By law, German employee-inventors must be compensated for their inventions, as opposed to the usual practice elsewhere of allowing employers to require employees to sign away all rights in inventions as a condition of employment.

That law was originally put in place by the Nazis.

Didn’t know that. I read something interesting and maybe Sergei can tell me if it’s true or not but I read that Stalin banned lobotomies in the USSR.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:40:37pm

re: #67 lawhawk

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Have to read through the full scoring, but combine that with the JCT, and this is an epic shit show the GOP has on its hands. They’re going to make health care unaffordable for millions, millions will lose insurance, and their saving grace is that the CBO will say that it reduces the deficit over 10 years. That’s because all the burdens get shifted to the insureds (or formerly insureds).

I think Ryancare is a dead bill walking. Lots of Republicans won’t want to go into the midterms having just taken healthcare coverage away from 14 million people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:40:57pm

PHOTO OP!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:41:45pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait just a cotton-pickin’ second there. I thought he said he wasn’t going to use that account?

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:41:45pm

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

I fully expect the GOP to go after the law that requires hospitals to treat those who can’t pay.

re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White

They already are. I read that there’s a bill that would allow hospitals to kick out even insured patients if they couldn’t afford the copay.

If that’s the case there will a lot of hospital employees who will suddenly need to use the ER.

It would be funny/ironic if they got kicked out by their own hospital.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:41:53pm

re: #347 MOFO Beaner

The fact that the entire private sector, viewed in macroeconomic terms, functions mainly to efficiently concentrate wealth in the plutocracy isn’t enough for these shitbirds.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:42:14pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Small hands pretending.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:43:21pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:43:21pm

re: #351 thedopefishlives

I bet that’s not Trump who did that one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:45:01pm

re: #351 thedopefishlives

Wait just a cotton-pickin’ second there. I thought he said he wasn’t going to use that account?

no probs…both accounts got used:

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:45:03pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

You can’t say a thing.

Just try not to laugh too hard.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:45:09pm

re: #349 Big Beautiful Door

I think Ryancare is a dead bill walking. Lots of Republicans won’t want to go into the midterms having just taken healthcare coverage away from 14 million people.

The funny thing about all this? The “Freedom” Caucus will vote against the bill not because of the carnage it will cause, but because it’s not full repeal.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:45:50pm

Score one blow to science.

So, this week is the Society of Toxicoly meeting in Bawlimore. I was at the 9:30-12:15 session (discussion was organs on a chip) which was quite interesting. The final speaker gets up and starts his talk by stating that two of his co-founders are not present. One, a 30 year citizen of Germany, was born in Tehran. Despite multiple discussions with the US embassy, he was denied a visa to travel here. The other German stayed home in solidarity. The speaker noted wryly that while he could have boycotted the meeting, it would have kinda silly since he now taught at Johns Hopkins and was only 10 minutes away.

This is Not A Good Thing for scientific exchange. And, I do not see the travel restrictions improving as this perverted government becomes more entrenched and more comfortable with blatant racism. That last sentence seems kinda late after all the Steve King stuff, but. A giant shit-show that we are encumbered with.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:46:45pm

re: #359 Targetpractice

The funny thing about all this? The “Freedom” Caucus will vote against the bill not because of the carnage it will cause, but because it’s not full repeal.

That’s correct. The only GOP pushback is that it isn’t vindictive enough.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:48:35pm

re: #361 Skip Intro

That’s correct. The only GOP pushback is that it isn’t vindictive enough.

Really says a lot about their party.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:48:47pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:51:28pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

Disingenuous in exactly the same way “Liberal Fascism” was.

To the extent there was an Nazi “environmentalism” is was tied to pastoralism of the Marie-Antoinette’s-shepherdesses variety that were at root about racism (hence Blood and Soil): the Aryan mastering and controlling the land to meet the needs of the Volk. This meant (1) a sort of agrarian small-town lifestyle where Aryans were dispersed throughout the conquered territory that was previously Slavic and Jewish, because part of Volkisch sentiment was a banal sentimentality about rural living; (2) an equally race-based understanding of the importance of exercise and enjoyment of the outdoors…again based in volkisch notions of what was Aryan…in which Germans were encouraged to exercise and be cultivate their bodies because they would be required to either be soldiers or bear soldiers; (3) seeing challenging nature, and in particular hunting, as activities as instilling the ready-for-war “strength” that National Socialism demanded of the individual—Hitler was the sole vegetarian* amongst men who enjoy blood sports, and he didn’t sway anybody to join him.

(not that there was a coherent Nazi policy on anything. There were individuals who were deeply caught up in the pastoralism of little German villages, and tried to push the idea forward. Other Nazis were technocrats preoccupied with mega-cities. The NSDAP leadership cadre was basically a bunch of nutter idealists who competed for funding and manpower—there was no real central “plan” except (1) expansionism and permanent war footing, (2) racial hierarchy in which non-Aryans simply had no franchise or rights)

“Overpopulation” was attributed to inferior races who were supposedly trying to breed out Aryans, and also sexually incontinent, and also just degenerate in general. The racial theories weren’t on the back burner of that notion.

In practice, the Nazi interest in nature had zero to do with ecology, species preservation, biodiversity, or an of the scientific grounds on which modern environmentalism was based. “Nature”—like everything else—was a stage on which to exult themselves. When it inconvenienced them (such as when carving out the paths for the autobahn), it was cast to the wayside.

*tangent: from accounts, Hitler wasn’t so much a vegetarian as a man-baby who didn’t eat things he didn’t like and found an excuse. So his “vegetarian” diet was pretty vegetable-sparse; he liked beans and sweets, and apparently had terrible dental issues and terrible gas throughout his adult life. Seriously, what a fucking twat.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:51:59pm

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

Instagram

#bigbrother is watching! Your grammar… #microwaves #cia

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:53:13pm

My prediction now is that Ryan will table the bill, claiming that it requires “revision” in light of the CBO report. When the press calls him on it, he’ll say he’s doing what the Democrats should have done with Obamacare, going back to the drawing board rather than pushing forward with an unpopular bill. Trump won’t treat it as backtracking or a failure, he’ll insist that it’s for the good because Obamacare will “collapse” by next year and Republicans will be elected in droves by that “failure.”

And when Republicans run next year for reelection, they’ll meet charges that they were prepared to strip 24 million people of insurance by insisting that the bill never came to a vote, but if it had they would have voted against it “in that form.” They’ll run next year on the same fantasy bill they’ve been promising for the past 9 years.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:53:33pm

Got a little email from Wells Fargo this morning saying they’re going to start charging me $10 a month for an “account management fee.” On hold now with a service rep, I threatened to close my account unless it’s waived; I’ve been with them since 2003 and never bounced a check.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:53:51pm

Rep. Gutierrez Handcuffed After Refusing to Leave Meeting with ICE

“There has been no dialogue, no transparency, no consultation, and no accountability - just like every other aspect of how this White House does business,” Gutierrez said in a statement about Monday’s incident. “It is heavy-handed government in secret all to make the new strongman President look tough and to satisfy the cravings of his coliseum audience for some immigrants to sacrifice.”

nbcchicago.com

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:55:10pm

IOW the DOJ doesn’t have a goddamned thing corroborating Trump’s insane bullshit claim and Sessions has told them to stall.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:55:28pm

re: #367 Ace Rothstein

Wells Fargo?

Better watch out. You may find yourself signed up for a dozen new accounts charging $10 each.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:55:54pm

Dog mind blown

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:56:02pm

re: #363 Timothy Watson

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Are they in white collar jobs? Than no, probably not. White collar OSHA crime is uncommon, usually paperwork violations in documenting the protection of the proles. The working poor will be the ones to suffer.

“You didn’t have a caisson system in the trench where you were upgrading a fiber-optic line and it collapsed, engulfing and killing four people? Not to worry! These things happen! And those worker safety rules are just government overreach anyway! Oh, and do you want to hear the good news about tort reform?”

The new normal.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:56:06pm

re: #125 Anymouse

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And most painful of all, GOP leaders have no comments/condemnation of King’s racist commentary. They’re perfectly fine with his White Supremacist b.s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:56:48pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:56:54pm

re: #373 Patricia Kayden

And most painful of all, GOP leaders have no comments/condemnation of King’s racist commentary. They’re perfectly fine with his White Supremacist b.s.

They know who keeps voting them into office.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:56:55pm

re: #369 goddamnedfrank

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IOW the DOJ doesn’t have a goddamned thing corroborating Trump’s insane bullshit claim and Sessions has told them to stall.

You get the impression that Sessions didn’t seriously expect them to call them on Comrade Combover’s bluff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:58:27pm

mitch is an arse

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:59:13pm

re: #366 Targetpractice

My prediction now is that Ryan will table the bill, claiming that it requires “revision” in light of the CBO report. When the press calls him on it, he’ll say he’s doing what the Democrats should have done with Obamacare, going back to the drawing board rather than pushing forward with an unpopular bill. Trump won’t treat it as backtracking or a failure, he’ll insist that it’s for the good because Obamacare will “collapse” by next year and Republicans will be elected in droves by that “failure.”

And when Republicans run next year for reelection, they’ll meet charges that they were prepared to strip 24 million people of insurance by insisting that the bill never came to a vote, but if it had they would have voted against it “in that form.” They’ll run next year on the same fantasy bill they’ve been promising for the past 9 years.

Man, you credit them with far more pragmatism than I do. I predict it goes to the Senate and only The Cosmic Owl knows what happens from there.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 4:59:44pm
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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:00:28pm

re: #372 austin_blue

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:01:08pm

re: #378 goddamnedfrank

Upding for Adventure Time reference.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:01:49pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:02:18pm

re: #378 goddamnedfrank

Man, you credit them with far more pragmatism than I do. I predict it goes to the Senate and only The Cosmic Owl knows what happens from there.

I’m going with the same scenario that John of Orange had happen to his ass twice: Put the bill to a vote in the full House, then yank it just before they start recording votes so nobody gets caught voting for this turd.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:02:54pm

RWNJ

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:03:22pm

If the thought of a piece of shit Nazi in our government makes you sick, just think… Steve King’s constituents have been voting him in as their representative since 2003.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:03:40pm

re: #382 lawhawk

Reminder: Donald Trump gets paid to put his name on things…most of which are shitty.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:03:54pm

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

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Hey Ryan, those two bright lights you see? That’s the Trumpers getting ready to run the bus over you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:03:57pm

re: #382 lawhawk

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EPIC BURN……

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:04:03pm
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while(1) worries++;  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:04:06pm

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Scout  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:04:29pm

re: #340 Scout

Please disregard my rant against the DNC. I’m an idiot when it comes to internet stuff (and a lot of other stuff, as well).

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:05:00pm

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

He has to pee.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:05:09pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:06:05pm

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

He got dressed in the dark and in a hurry.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:07:23pm

re: #394 PhillyPretzel

He got dressed in the dark and in a hurry.

It’s a medical boot I am pretty sure.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:07:26pm

re: #380 Timothy Watson

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Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I expect a huge cut in OSHA funding resulting in fewer cases ever getting to the settlement stage. You can’t enforce what you can’t afford to investigate.

It would go a long way if the word “Regulation” was replaced with the word “Protection” by the D’s whenever an R yells “Overreaching regulation by the Federal Gubbmint!”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:08:52pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that former coal miner walks with a cane and has several serious health conditions (including diabetes and high blood pressure).
There is no way he would ever be hired to work in a coal mine ever again, even if those jobs came back (which they aren’t).

But when they don’t, he’ll blame the libruls “war on coal.”

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:08:54pm

re: #240 Skip Intro

Larry Klayman Will Be Jeff Sessions’ ‘Hamburger Helper’ To Help Him Put The ‘Evil Forces Of The Left’ In Prison

rightwingwatch.org

Try it motherfucker. You’re going to find out the hard way that you asshats aren’t the only ones who are willing to fight or bleed for what they believe in.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:09:44pm

re: #395 Timothy Watson

Yes it does look like a medical boot. I wonder what type of accident he had.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:09:50pm

re: #394 PhillyPretzel

He got dressed in the dark and in a hurry.

happens when you can’t find the light switches…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:10:48pm

re: #385 GlutenFreeJesus

If the thought of a piece of shit Nazi in our government makes you sick, just think… Steve King’s constituents have been voting him in as their representative since 2003.

Yep, he’s been there a while now and I don’t see him going anywhere anytime soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:10:51pm

re: #399 PhillyPretzel

Yes it does look like a medical boot. I wonder what type of accident he had.

stumbling over all of those alternative facts.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:11:13pm

re: #396 austin_blue

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I expect a huge cut in OSHA funding resulting in fewer cases ever getting to the settlement stage. You can’t enforce what you can’t afford to investigate.

It would go a long way if the word “Regulation” was replaced with the word “Protection” by the D’s whenever an R yells “Overreaching regulation by the Federal Gubbmint!”.

Oh, gotcha now.

Definitely, and the state is just expanding the number of positions. (Positions are paid half by the state and half by the feds.) But the feds are going to gut OSHA standards and Congress is probably going to cut the grant program for state plans.

But I’ll still wager the Trump supporting wingnuts, who have worked their entire lives for the government, won’t ever turn against Trump.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:11:24pm

re: #398 Whack-A-Mole

Try it motherfucker. You’re going to find out the hard way that you asshats aren’t the only ones who are willing to fight or bleed for what they believe in.

I was thinking the same way. You want to try and do the fog and night bit with us? We can put more people in the streets than they can.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:12:12pm

re: #404 Scottish Dragon

I was thinking the same way. You want to try and do the fog and night bit with us? We can put more people in the streets than they can.

They really think we’re all a bunch of wusses but I’d gladly fight back against these assholes.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:12:16pm

re: #371 gocart mozart

my beagle barks at the dogs on his kibble bag when I leave the empty propped up behind the food bins

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:13:13pm

oh….

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:13:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:14:17pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh….

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I can’t be denied coverage anymore. It’s been so terrible, //

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:16:13pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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SirMixALot  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:16:18pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Flynn was working for the Turkish government. The entire right wing is conspiring to influence as many election as possible. The Turkish picking a fight with the Dutch government a few days before their national election is suspicious as hell!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:16:34pm
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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:16:41pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

They really think we’re all a bunch of wusses but I’d gladly fight back against these assholes.

Yes, that’s another part of the fantasy world that they live in, that liberals are all pacifistic, gun hating, easily frightened hippies. That’s the root of the whole snowflake bs. They don’t understand that our patriotism runs just as deep as theirs, probably deeper judging by their fellating Putin and his little orange lapdog at every opportunity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:17:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:17:44pm

re: #412 Scottish Dragon

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It’s a pattern with him and Ryan knows it. But then again one of Ryan’s lieutenants is a man who bragged about being David Duke without the baggage so it’s not surprising that he could care less about Steve King being a disgusting racist piece of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:18:15pm

re: #413 Whack-A-Mole

Yes, that’s another part of the fantasy world that they live in, that liberals are all pacifistic, gun hating, easily frightened hippies. That’s the root of the whole snowflake bs. They don’t understand that our patriotism runs just as deep as theirs, probably deeper judging by their fellating Putin and his little orange lapdog at every opportunity.

I admit that I don’t like guns but if I had to learn to use one to protect me and my family, I would.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:18:46pm

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

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Hey Newt get in line, Hannity’s balls are in Trump’s mouth first.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:18:50pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:19:12pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

PHOTO OP!

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Looking for the glass of coke. It’s there, hidden behind the phone.

Note it is always there.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:19:45pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:20:06pm

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:21:14pm

re: #421 De Kolta Chair

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It looks while it cooks!

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:21:39pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh….

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When a Republican says “fewer insurance options,” what he’s saying is “it’s wrong that big insurance companies can’t offer you a shitty plan that covers nothing but charges you out the ass annually.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:21:48pm

re: #422 Scottish Dragon

It looks while it cooks!

it taps while it zaps!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:21:49pm

re: #421 De Kolta Chair

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It posts while it roasts!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:22:01pm

re: #420 Scottish Dragon

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Even McCain’s “defense” of Obama against that racist woman in 2008 was pretty lame.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:22:32pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I admit that I don’t like guns but if I had to learn to use one to protect me and my family, I would.

I’d start learning now.

These comments aren’t coming out of the blue. At every point for the past 8, 10 years, all of the things they’ve been so afraid of, the things they claimed Obama was going to do to them, it’s all been projection. Every bit of it and they’re showing it now.

As Maya Angelou said, “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”

I believe them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:22:45pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:22:45pm

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

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But they were cheering on the CBO when it came time for the ACA to be evaluated…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:23:49pm

re: #429 thedopefishlives

But they were cheering on the CBO when it came time for the ACA to be evaluated…

The frigging current head of the CBO is someone Price literally recommended for the job. Newt basically is showing himself for the petty asshole he is. Eliminate the CBO because they dared to show that Trumpcare sucks ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:24:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:24:43pm

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obviously commies. //

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:25:07pm

re: #430 HappyWarrior

The frigging current head of the CBO is someone Price literally recommended for the job. Newt basically is showing himself for the petty asshole he is. Eliminate the CBO because they dared to show that Trumpcare sucks ass.

That’s the part that cracks me up the most about all this. They already have a man in the CBO, and yet their health bill still got trashed. If they can’t even get their own guy to polish the turd, how the hell do they think they’re going to pass it and not suffer disastrous consequences?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:25:33pm

re: #380 Timothy Watson

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:25:49pm

re: #429 thedopefishlives

But they were cheering on the CBO when it came time for the ACA to be evaluated…

It goes farther than that. The very projections they’re now touting as evidence that the CBO needs to be shut down are the projections they’ve used for years to attack the ACA, claiming that the bill became law based upon faulty projections that never came true. Of course, what they never say aloud is that the CBO couldn’t project that the Roberts court would make the Medicaid expansion optional and that dozens of red states would refuse to expand Medicaid out of partisan bitterness.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:26:16pm

re: #433 thedopefishlives

That’s the part that cracks me up the most about all this. They already have a man in the CBO, and yet their health bill still got trashed. If they can’t even get their own guy to polish the turd, how the hell do they think they’re going to pass it and not suffer disastrous consequences?

They obviously didn’t pick the right guy, they must had thought he would totally cook the books to give a good analysis.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:26:43pm

I wonder if the hospitals are going to be happy with 20 million people coming to their hospitals with no way to pay for it.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:27:19pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:27:19pm

re: #435 Targetpractice

It goes farther than that. The very projections they’re now touting as evidence that the CBO needs to be shut down are the projections they’ve used for years to attack the ACA, claiming that the bill became law based upon faulty projections that never came true. Of course, what they never say aloud is that the CBO couldn’t project that the Roberts court would make the Medicaid expansion optional and that dozens of red states would refuse to expand Medicaid out of partisan bitterness.

Yeah, when the courts carve up your legislation before it’s hardly had any impact, it’s pretty hard to claim that the projections shouldn’t be invalidated.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:27:33pm

re: #437 Ace Rothstein

I wonder if the hospitals are going to be happy with 20 million people coming to their hospitals with no way to pay for it.

That’s the next step: They won’t have to.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:29:25pm

re: #440 thedopefishlives

That’s the next step: They won’t have to.

Ayep, the “Step 2” that Price insists the CBO doesn’t take into account will no doubt include regulations regarding who ERs can and can’t turn away. Chief among those who will be turned away? People who can’t show an insurance card before admission.

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Moebym  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:31:11pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:31:21pm

re: #441 Targetpractice

Ayep, the “Step 2” that Price insists the CBO doesn’t take into account will no doubt include regulations regarding who ERs can and can’t turn away. Chief among those who will be turned away? People who can’t show an insurance card before admission.

So they lambasted the CBO for projections that turned out to be false because of factors they had no possible knowledge of, and now here we are again, with the CBO making projections and getting slammed because of factors they have no possible knowledge of.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:32:28pm

re: #433 thedopefishlives

Option 1: They cannot fail, can only be failed.

Option 2: Why not use this opportunity to shut down another bit of government that provides data-based analysis?

Option 3: Got to keep up the constant feeling that “government” is a bad thing…except for their authoritarian, opaque one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:32:40pm

Here is a picture of Trump’s face and his hand together that will make you go WTFF

MOAR WTF.

WARNING: It’s in spoiler tags FOR A REASON.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:32:46pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:34:14pm

re: #359 Targetpractice

The funny thing about all this? The “Freedom” Caucus will vote against the bill not because of the carnage it will cause, but because it’s not full repeal.

I’m starting to take seriously the theory that the GOP is moving fast on this bill so it will die quickly. Then they can say they tried to repeal Obamacare and move on to their real passion, tax reform. The Democrats painstakingly laid the groundwork for healthcare reform and negotiated with all the stakeholders and even the GOP in a laborious process. The GOP just slapped something together and made zero effort to get anyone on board, and as a result everyone hates it. That is either gross incompetence or deliberate.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:34:20pm

re: #446 Scottish Dragon

[Embedded content]

They think they piss liberals off so much but the reality is most of us could care less about them until they start infringing on the rights of us or those we love. You want to be a right wing asshole, fine, that’s your right but when your right wing assholery starts interfering in the rights of my family and friends to live their lives, then fuck you.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:34:40pm

re: #422 Scottish Dragon

It looks while it cooks!

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:34:42pm

Nigerians?
//

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:34:57pm

re: #422 Scottish Dragon

And it even opens the pod bay doors!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:36:50pm

re: #361 Skip Intro

That’s correct. The only GOP pushback is that it isn’t vindictive enough.

To be fair, there are Republicans pushing to save Medicaid expansion. Obviously not the Freedom Caucus, or my Senator, Rand Paul, who doesn’t give a shit about his 400k constituents who got covered through medicaid expansion.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:37:47pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:39:08pm

re: #447 Big Beautiful Door

I’m starting to take seriously the theory that the GOP is moving fast on this bill so it will die quickly. Then they can say they tried to repeal Obamacare and move on to their real passion, tax reform. The Democrats painstakingly laid the groundwork for healthcare reform and negotiated with all the stakeholders and even the GOP in a laborious process. The GOP just slapped something together and made zero effort to get anyone on board, and as a result everyone hates it. That is either gross incompetence or deliberate.

Only problem with that theory? Senator Yertle just came out this weekend saying that Congress wouldn’t tackle tax reform before their August recess. If you think that’s implausible, take this into mind: Congress has only scheduled 8 working days next month.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:39:40pm

re: #451 De Kolta Chair

And it even opens the pod bay doors!

[Embedded content]

HAL 9000: “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that”

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:42:45pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:43:45pm

re: #359 Targetpractice

The funny thing about all this? The “Freedom” Caucus will vote against the bill not because of the carnage it will cause, but because it’s not full repeal.

I’m wondering how many in the Freedom Caucus will decide they like it now that they know it takes insurance away from 24 million people. I bet they get some of those votes now.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:44:48pm

re: #445 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a picture of Trump’s face and his hand together that will make you go WTFF

[Embedded content]

MOAR WTF.

WARNING: It’s in spoiler tags FOR A REASON.

Man, that’s creepy. I’ve seen prosthetic hands that look more life-like.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:45:06pm

re: #447 Big Beautiful Door

I’m starting to take seriously the theory that the GOP is moving fast on this bill so it will die quickly. Then they can say they tried to repeal Obamacare and move on to their real passion, tax reform. The Democrats painstakingly laid the groundwork for healthcare reform and negotiated with all the stakeholders and even the GOP in a laborious process. The GOP just slapped something together and made zero effort to get anyone on board, and as a result everyone hates it. That is either gross incompetence or deliberate.

The problem with that theory is that if the GOP guts the ACA, they will use those huge tax cuts for the rich as a baseline from where further tax cuts will start. No way do they give up on that without a fight.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:45:52pm

re: #399 PhillyPretzel

Yes it does look like a medical boot. I wonder what type of accident he had.

Foot in mouth disease.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:45:56pm

re: #385 GlutenFreeJesus

If the thought of a piece of shit Nazi in our government makes you sick, just think… Steve King’s constituents have been voting him in as their representative since 2003.

95.8% white.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:46:45pm

re: #461 teleskiguy

95.8% white.

“Real America.” ///

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:47:30pm

re: #458 Timothy Watson

Trump’s the frickin’ Joker.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:49:41pm

re: #463 lawhawk

Trump’s the frickin’ Joker.

I wish I could find video from the Burton Batman film where Nicholson is putting on the makeup to look normal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:50:12pm

re: #454 Targetpractice

Only problem with that theory? Senator Yertle just came out this weekend saying that Congress wouldn’t tackle tax reform before their August recess. If you think that’s implausible, take this into mind: Congress has only scheduled 8 working days next month.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:51:44pm

re: #447 Big Beautiful Door

I’m starting to take seriously the theory that the GOP is moving fast on this bill so it will die quickly. Then they can say they tried to repeal Obamacare and move on to their real passion, tax reform. The Democrats painstakingly laid the groundwork for healthcare reform and negotiated with all the stakeholders and even the GOP in a laborious process. The GOP just slapped something together and made zero effort to get anyone on board, and as a result everyone hates it. That is either gross incompetence or deliberate.

Or both.

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:54:35pm

re: #391 Scout

Please disregard my rant against the DNC. I’m an idiot when it comes to internet stuff (and a lot of other stuff, as well).

I disregarded it when you dismissed the entire DNC for an issue that could have been brought to their attention with an email and probably resolved.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 5:55:39pm

*thud*

KSU was founded in 1886 as the State Normal School for Colored Persons and was the second state-supported institution of higher learning in Kentucky.

I’m shocked Dr. Brown was hired, even though I shouldn’t be…

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 13, 2017 • 6:00:38pm

re: #398 Whack-A-Mole

Try it motherfucker. You’re going to find out the hard way that you asshats aren’t the only ones who are willing to fight or bleed for what they believe in.

I don’t think very many of them at all are willing to bleed and die for the stated beliefs. A few of the most delusional dupes will, to be sure, but for most it is a scam. They don’t truly believe what they are saying. We can see this in the enormous gap between their blood curdling threats, backed by millions of guns, and their actions. The latter are typically limited to a few crazy people who apparently missed part of the memo and don’t realize that it is all a fig leaf for greed and an excuse to blow off some steam with abusive rhetoric.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 6:20:30pm

re: #459 EPR-radar

The problem with that theory is that if the GOP guts the ACA, they will use those huge tax cuts for the rich as a baseline from where further tax cuts will start. No way do they give up on that without a fight.

They better start fighting soon, because this bill was already in trouble before the CBO’s disastrous score came out today. Ryan spinning like a dervish isn’t going to convince many Republicans to stick their necks out and vote for this stinker.

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John_Manyjars  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:28:38pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Also too you are ‘wrongly imprisoned’ for setting fire to said Federal lands your cows graze on for free

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John_Manyjars  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:09:43pm

re: #437 Ace Rothstein

They’ll just close down more ‘money-losing’ ER’s…another way even the remaining ‘insured’ will pay for (R) rat-fuckery.


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Hyperloop in Missouri: Company Says KC-STL Route Top Contender An official with Hyperloop One, which proposes building ultra-fast tubular transportation around the world, said that a Missouri route is a top contender for development. Dan Katz, the head of policy for the company, told The Associated Press that ...
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Sheriff Finds ‘Troubling’ Explosives, Guns, Maps and Note in Florida Home Photographs of schools, three bomb devices, guns and books on how to make explosives were found in a Dunedin man’s home Wednesday, officials report. Deputies with the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office were executing a search warrant at 1234 Royal ...
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Editorial: Kobach Is Desperate for Trump’s Approval Kris Kobach has been running a Trump-style gubernatorial campaign since the day he announced. From his empty insistence that there’s a “culture of corruption” in Topeka to his argument that the Legislature’s decision to repeal Gov. Sam Brownback’s tax ...
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First Aid Kit - It’s a Shame"It's a Shame" by First Aid Kit is available now: smarturl.it Production Company: Slutet är Nära / slutetarnara.se Director: Mats UddProducer: Petra KrigströmExecutive Producer: Alexandros Bakos Lyrics: genius.com Follow First Aid Kit: firstaidkitband.com facebook.com @firstaidkitband instagram.com
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Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - American Girl10/13/2017 Encore on night 4 of Ryman residency
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