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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:17:00pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:18:51pm

I know I’m both repetitive and…politically goth…but the way this is going to work is that they’re just going to deny there’s issues, then blame ACA/Obama/liberals/Snowball, and finally bank on the notion that the people suffering brought it on themselves, and/or aren’t Real Americans.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:19:42pm

That’s a feature, not a bug. Ryan rather gave the game away the other day: The problem with the current system (in conservative eyes) is that the sick and poor are being subsidized by the healthy and rich. The reality is a bit simpler than that: They see the very existence of insurance as a problem. That health care should be restricted to only those with the means to pay their bills on the spot. The rest of us are viewed as a drain on the resources of our “betters.”

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nines09  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:20:36pm

Worth repeating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:23:36pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:25:52pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

That’s a feature, not a bug. Ryan rather gave the game away the other day: The problem with the current system (in conservative eyes) is that the sick and poor are being subsidized by the healthy and rich. The reality is a bit simpler than that: They see the very existence of insurance as a problem. That health care should be restricted to only those with the means to pay their bills on the spot. The rest of us are viewed as a drain on the resources of our “betters.”

It would be more honest if the GOP just brought out the machine guns. We all know that death for the ‘others’ is their end game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:30:05pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:34:38pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:36:17pm
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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:40:52pm

Yeah, but Newt says the CBO is full of shit and should be disbanded (before they do the macroeconomic analysis).

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:44:42pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:45:54pm

re: #10 austin_blue

Yeah, but Newt says the CBO is full of shit and should be disbanded (before they do the macroeconomic analysis).

He has to help loot this country poor, he’s got outstanding Tiffany & Co. bills!

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:46:03pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Minnesota now has two legislators as bugnuts as Bachmann - Lewis and Emmer. There’s a chance that Lewis will be gone in two years, but no one is going to dislodge Emmer from Bachmann’s district.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:46:59pm

re: #13 stpaulbear

Minnesota now has two legislators as bugnuts as Bachmann - Lewis and Emmer. There’s a chance that Lewis will be gone in two years, but no one is going to dislodge Emmer from Bachmann’s district.

Thanks to the miracle of gerrymandering. Have you seen the way the districts are drawn around here? Like, what the actual fuck?

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:48:26pm

re: #13 stpaulbear

Part of the turning of the upper Mississippi into wingnut territory.

Places like Iowa and Minnesota were once more “progressive”. Now, it seems like they’ve become the growing boundary of the religious right.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:49:53pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:50:36pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

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You forget: Those who would lose coverage under the AHCA aren’t people. They’re poor. Get with the program.

[Spit.]

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:51:19pm

The Purge is a documentary.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:52:26pm

re: #15 freetoken

Part of the turning of the upper Mississippi into wingnut territory.

Places like Iowa and Minnesota were once more “progressive”. Now, it seems like they’ve become the growing boundary of the religious right.

We, at least, have the advantage of being tempered somewhat by Canada to the north. Their ebil socialism seeps across the border and infects our fragile, wind-frozen minds. The Iowans have been alone in the corn too long, those guys are toast.////

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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:54:28pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:56:10pm

The “reorganization” of the executive branch amounts to gutting the executive branch, now that Il Trumpino has appointed his own flunkies to head the Cabinet departments.

whitehouse.gov

(c) Within 180 days after the closing date for the submission of suggestions pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, the Director shall submit to the President a proposed plan to reorganize the executive branch in order to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of agencies. The proposed plan shall include, as appropriate, recommendations to eliminate unnecessary agencies, components of agencies, and agency programs, and to merge functions. The proposed plan shall include recommendations for any legislation or administrative measures necessary to achieve the proposed reorganization.

As I understand it, Trump can’t abolish entire departments (like Education) without Congressional approval, but he could sure fuck things up enough to make those departments ineffective.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:58:07pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

So far in the 21st century, the main political fight in the US is whether or not to tax the rich a little bit in order to provide widespread health care.

This is literally people’s lives vs. marginal tax rates for plutocrats, and the plutocrats are winning at the moment.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:58:59pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

So far in the 21st century, the main political fight in the US is whether or not to tax the rich a little bit in order to provide widespread health care.

This is literally people’s lives vs. marginal tax rates for plutocrats, and the plutocrats are winning at the moment.

They have 90% of the money and, right now, all the power. Exactly how are the rest of us supposed to fight that?

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:59:31pm

re: #21 wheat-dogg

I propose to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the White Hose by having Fuckface von Clownstick disappear up his own rectum.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 7:59:55pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:00:33pm

re: #15 freetoken

Part of the turning of the upper Mississippi into wingnut territory.

Places like Iowa and Minnesota were once more “progressive”. Now, it seems like they’ve become the growing boundary of the religious right.

Well MN’s US legislative candidates are still 3R vs. 5D with both senators still D. If we end up with a republican governor in two years, then we’re in trouble.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:01:23pm

re: #26 stpaulbear

Well MN’s US legislative candidates are still 3R vs. 5D with both senators still D. If we end up with a republican governor in two years, then we’re in trouble.

How does the state legislature look in MN?

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Joe Bacon  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:03:55pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

He has to help loot this country poor, he’s got outstanding Tiffany & Co. bills!

And his new mistress needs more plastic surgery to look like a Barbie Doll!

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:04:54pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

They have 90% of the money and, right now, all the power. Exactly how are the rest of us supposed to fight that?

People vs. the plutocracy, all day, every day. We need consistent ongoing Occupy-type action that is fully coordinated with an energized Democratic Party operating in every House District in the nation.

I think the unicorns on my wish list will be easier to come by.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:05:07pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

I propose to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the White Hose by having Fuckface von Clownstick disappear up his own rectum.

I’m sure this move is Bannon’s, and supported by the Tea Party fanatics surrounding Trump. Il Trumpino probably thinks he can run the executive branch like he runs his family business, with a skeleton crew. Taking the executive branch apart and reassembling it, though, is not so easy. He going to blow gaskets when he finds out he can’t just eliminate a program or agency that was created by law. He’ll need congressional approval, and that won’t be so easy.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:12:25pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:13:23pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

Aw, fuck. And here I was looking forward to getting into this with Mrs. Fish.

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bratwurst  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:14:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:14:58pm

re: #32 thedopefishlives

Aw, fuck. And here I was looking forward to getting into this with Mrs. Fish.

Me too, I’ve heard it’s pretty bad.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:15:03pm

OT The snow has finally started. It does not seem to be much right now but according to the Nat’l Weather Service we are going to get a lot of snow.
weather.gov

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:19:27pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

How does the state legislature look in MN?

The legislature has been pretty solidly R for a long time. The senate flipped from D to R last election. Bummer.

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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:21:44pm

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

Did you see this?

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:22:01pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

The legislature has been pretty solidly R for a long time. The senate flipped from D to R last election. Bummer.

We’re Republicans in the state bummed that they weren’t doing as poorly as Wisconsin?

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:22:47pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:23:55pm

I have to stop watching MSNBC. It just raises my blood pressure to think that the House is doing nothing to stop Trump. And that Trump will get credit for the good economy left him by Obama.

OT. Supposed to be “substantial” lake effect snow here, but nothing like what those in the NorthEast are expecting. Let’s see if there is any real accumulation in this area tonight.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:26:12pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:26:25pm

re: #37 Interesting Times

Just read the article. If Casey can do it I am for it.

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:31:55pm

re: #38 Belafon

We’re Republicans in the state bummed that they weren’t doing as poorly as Wisconsin?

I’m kind of clueless as to how MN republicans feel about what’s happening in WI. We are kind of cleaning their clocks with jobs and growth. I’m sure the MN R’s would try to bust unions and state employees if they could so they might be envious of WI on that point.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:32:10pm

Bannon v. Ryan

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:36:19pm

The people who hate MN taxes commute to their well-paying Twin City jobs from western WI. It’s only about a 15 minute commute. Lots of people do that.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:36:23pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Bannon v. Ryan

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Well, he’s kept to that pledge…but basically just ducking the issue. Every time the press has asked his opinion on something Trump has said or done, Ryan has just avoided the question.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:37:08pm

Couldn’t resist.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:39:05pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:41:04pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

And they were looking at the 26,000,000 number and high-fiving each other going ‘WE CAN DO THIS!!” Bombs away! Woo hoo!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:44:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:44:27pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:47:21pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

@JoyAnnReid
Bannonbart is going to war against Paul Ryan.

Can they both lose?

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:47:50pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

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Not anything new, Eric Bolling made exactly this same argument earlier today. Since Trump has already heavily endorsed this bill, they can’t claim that it’s being passed over his objections. So they have to fabricate an escape hatch for him by saying that Ryan “fooled” him into signing onto a bill that is a total violation of all the promises he made.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:48:21pm

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:49:36pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Whoooaah, bet Ryan didn’t see that coming.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:50:27pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Not anything new, Eric Bolling made exactly this same argument earlier today. Since Trump has already heavily endorsed this bill, they can’t claim that it’s being passed over his objections. So they have to fabricate an escape hatch for him by saying that Ryan “fooled” him into signing onto a bill that is a total violation of all the promises he made.

Proves he’s not the deal maker.

#SAD

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:50:42pm

re: #52 Interesting Times

Can they both lose?

“I believe the Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with real bullets.” - Steve Martin

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:52:46pm

re: #48 FormerDirtDart

Last fall I was coming to the realization that I could retire somewhat soon if everything went well. I was just keeping enough ahead so that i could afford to bail at age 65 in July of 2019. The stock market can”t crash muck, health care will need to stick together somewhat without major body blows, and my pension needs to not get stolen by the raiders to use for projects and tax cuts. I’m feeling that the opportunity for one or more parts of the savings plan to go buns up in the next three years, I don’t think I’m going to rate a miracle to have a non-fucked-up retirement. I’ll have to find a plan B because I’m in no way going to work where I work after 65 years of age.

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:53:09pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Stanley, TCM is going to run a marathon over the weekend of “Private Screenings with Robert Osborne” if you want to set your dvr.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:53:58pm

Is klys on another trip?

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:54:27pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

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It’s the Randians vs. The clueless fucks in the White House!

Who wins?

(nobody wins)

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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:55:05pm

re: #61 austin_blue

It’s the Randians vs. The clueless fucks in the White House!

Who wins?

If they kill each other, America.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:55:11pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:55:38pm

re: #60 retired cynic

Is klys on another trip?

She’s taking a break.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:55:47pm

re: #59 prairiefire

Stanley, TCM is going to run a marathon over the weekend of “Private Screenings with Robert Osborne” if you want to set your dvr.

Thank you!!! I definitely will.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:56:29pm

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

She’s taking a break.

Thanks. I guess I missed that. Or my memory shorted out.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:57:36pm

re: #59 prairiefire

Here’s a great remembrance of Mr. Osborne by Liz Smith

newyorksocialdiary.com

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:57:38pm

re: #62 Interesting Times

If they kill each other, America.

This is like that Chinese myth that if you put a bunch of scorpions in a jar, the one that’s alive at the end, having killed and eaten all the others, will have the most lethal poison.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 8:59:36pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:00:45pm

re: #58 stpaulbear

Last fall I was coming to the realization that I could retire somewhat soon if everything went well. I was just keeping enough ahead so that i could afford to bail at age 65 in July of 2019. The stock market can”t crash muck, health care will need to stick together somewhat without major body blows, and my pension needs to not get stolen by the raiders to use for projects and tax cuts. I’m feeling that the opportunity for one or more parts of the savings plan to go buns up in the next three years, I don’t think I’m going to rate a miracle to have a non-fucked-up retirement. I’ll have to find a plan B because I’m in no way going to work where I work after 65 years of age.

I’ve been considering retiring at age 62 next year. Now it’s a question of wait and see what happens in the USA. I might just need to tough it out another three years.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:00:48pm

Wayne Tracker

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:03:14pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Okay, okay, what are you two conspiring about?

Y’all are making me molto nervoso.

Do I need to call the NSA?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:04:38pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:04:46pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Okay, okay, what are you two conspiring about?

Y’all are making me molto nervoso.

Do I need to call the NSA?

Conspiring to conspire. So nefarious that the story itself will win an Oscar for Best Picture in seven years.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:06:19pm

And Charles! This private messaging shit could be interpreted as providing Aid and Comfort to the Enemy by allowing Seekrit Spiez to inhabit our hallowed board!

Oh noes!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:07:44pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

These fuckers really think they can’t get caught.

Problem is. When they are caught, nothing happens to them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:08:39pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Not anything new, Eric Bolling made exactly this same argument earlier today. Since Trump has already heavily endorsed this bill, they can’t claim that it’s being passed over his objections. So they have to fabricate an escape hatch for him by saying that Ryan “fooled” him into signing onto a bill that is a total violation of all the promises he made.

When they are already fighting over who to blame for this dumpster fire of a bill, its a pretty good sign that its not going to pass.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:08:46pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Conspiring to conspire. So nefarious that the story itself will win an Oscar for Best Picture in seven years.

Gaah! I knew it! Enemies of the Peoples!

Help us, Obi-Wan!

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:10:23pm

re: #52 Interesting Times

Can they both lose?

I suggest they fight it out on the turf at FedEx Field: Chain saws, flame throwers and poison gas, no armor. Imagine what we could get for the TV rights, and the wonderfully creative commercials the advertising fatcats would produce for it.

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:11:14pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

Thanks, great read. On one of the spots honoring him on TCM right after he passed there were voice over mentions from still living film stars. “He was our friend”, etc. in their elderly, whispery voices. That channel has helped me through much and certainly will continue to for the less than 4 years of 45.
Has somebody started a Hallelujah clock counting down the days yet of 45?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:13:51pm

re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus

These fuckers really think they can’t get caught.

Problem is. When they are caught, nothing happens to them.

Well, this is with the NYAG so maybe something will happen.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:15:01pm

re: #77 Big Beautiful Door

When they are already fighting over who to blame for this dumpster fire of a bill, its a pretty good sign that its not going to pass.

What makes it hilarious is that Bannon’s already started the “Ryan’s totally to blame!” campaign while the other grunts (Price and Bullshit Spice) are telling the press that this bill is awesome and we can’t trust the CBO’s report.

There’s one notable name missing in all this: Rinsed Prius.

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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:15:40pm

sigh… -_-

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:17:14pm

Back from another long-running village board meeting.

Signed contract for iron company to fix our water tower. Over thirty thousand dollars, but you do what you gotta do.

Confirmed I will be going to the state water operator school at the end of the month. Yay, political junket to the biggest tourist trap in the USA, North Platte, Nebraska.

Continued discussions over a person keeping livestock in the village in violation of ordinances. Person basically told the village attorney “Let’s see you do something about it.” We’ll be doing something about it.

More discussions about the guy who is using a village street as a junkyard for unusable vehicles. Conservatives on the village board don’t want to spend the money to force the issue; people in the village are getting fed up with the situation. I’m of the position it’s time to spend the money to get rid of the vehicles and go after the owner. (Village is behind me on this one.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:17:17pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

What makes it hilarious is that Bannon’s already started the “Ryan’s totally to blame!” campaign while the other grunts (Price and Bullshit Spice) are telling the press that this bill is awesome and we can’t trust the CBO’s report.

There’s one notable name missing in all this: Rinsed Prius.

Should be interesting to see if Trump sticks to his lies that the bill is “terrific” and will cover everyone even better than Obamacare for less money at his Louisville rally.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:17:33pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

What makes it hilarious is that Bannon’s already started the “Ryan’s totally to blame!” campaign while the other grunts (Price and Bullshit Spice) are telling the press that this bill is awesome and we can’t trust the CBO’s report.

There’s one notable name missing in all this: Rinsed Prius.

Rinsed is either in hiding, or clearing out his office.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:18:48pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Well, this is with the NYAG so maybe something will happen.

Can only hope.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:18:56pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

Should be interesting to see if Trump sticks to his lies that the bill is “terrific” and will cover everyone even better than Obamacare for less money at his Louisville rally.

Louisville rally? I missed this news. Do you mean the visit he ditched and sent Pence as a stand-in to? That was a few days ago.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:19:29pm

re: #84 Anymouse

Back from another long-running village board meeting.

Signed contract for iron company to fix our water tower. Over thirty thousand dollars, but you do what you gotta do.

Confirmed I will be going to the state water operator school at the end of the month. Yay, political junket to the biggest tourist trap in the USA, North Platte, Nebraska.

Continued discussions over a person keeping livestock in the village in violation of ordinances. Person basically told the village attorney “Let’s see you do something about it.” We’ll be doing something about it.

More discussions about the guy who is using a village street as a junkyard for unusable vehicles. Conservatives on the village board don’t want to spend the money to force the issue; people in the village are getting fed up with the situation. I’m of the position it’s time to spend the money to get rid of the vehicles and go after the owner. (Village is behind me on this one.)

It has been my experience that people who collect junk cars are among the most stubborn anti-government types you will ever have to deal with.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:21:28pm

re: #88 wheat-dogg

Louisville rally? I missed this news. Do you mean the visit he ditched and sent Pence as a stand-in to? That was a few days ago.

Trump is planning to speak there March 20

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:22:30pm

re: #77 Big Beautiful Door

When they are already fighting over who to blame for this dumpster fire of a bill, its a pretty good sign that its not going to pass.

And when it fails, they will blame it on the Democrats.

The 30% or so of the voting public that would vote for the (R) candidate if it was Satan is not likely reachable (though some might choose to reconsider their votes in the future).

The Democrats need to make sure their own voters get out in upcoming elections (all of them) and appeal to the remainder that are so-called independents - a reminder that both parties are not the same.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:23:29pm

re: #90 Big Beautiful Door

Trump is planning to speak there March 20

Ah! I guess Pence’s visit was a recon mission. But a lot can happen in a week. Trump could change his mind yet again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:24:43pm

These Trump voters complaining about losing their healthcare…

If you willingly go swimming with sharks, you don’t get to bitch about how sharp the teeth are.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:25:10pm

Fight!

Fight!

Fight!

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:27:26pm

re: #89 Big Beautiful Door

It has been my experience that people who collect junk cars are among the most stubborn anti-government types you will ever have to deal with.

My suggestion is the village needs to bite the bullet and issue an ultimatum through the village attorney that he register the vehicles (not going to happen), get rid of the vehicles, or the village tows the vehicles and attaches a lien to his property.

The last costs money so the village board’s conservatives are opposed to the idea; the village however is behind me on getting rid of the cars.

He is running what amounts to an illegal auto repair business right across the street from the village hall and library on residential property. The reason he is simply junking cars on the street is we are too far from any junkyard to come out and take a car and give you a few bucks. It’s cheaper to abandon them on the street.

Next board meeting I am going to note that if there is some sort of accident involving one of those cars and someone who is insured (especially if it costs a lot of money), the insurance company is likely to come after the village for failure to enforce its ordinances. That would cost us a socialistic metric fucktonne of money.

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:31:58pm

re: #89 Big Beautiful Door

It has been my experience that people who collect junk cars are among the most stubborn anti-government types you will ever have to deal with.

Must be why we have so many here in MO.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:37:26pm

re: #96 prairiefire

Must be why we have so many here in MO.

We don’t seem to have a lot of anti-government types here in the village, but the person in question is really opposed to doing anything the village requires of everyone.

Some years ago we had a pirate radio station in town shut down by the FCC, but that’s about it.

To get our Republican members of the town board to sign on to the idea of spending the money to enforce the ordinance against parking unregistered vehicles on the street is going to require showing them that it might cost us a bunch more not to do it. (I intend to enlist our attorney’s help on this one.)

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:40:53pm

My wife points out the woman involved in this auto fiasco has “88” tattooed on her neck. (I never noticed that.) Perhaps that’s why she despises me so much (particularly when I went after the library board - of which she is a member - for pursuing a racist policy against Native Americans using the public library in town).

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Moebym  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:42:52pm

re: #98 Anymouse

Heil Hitler.

Good grief.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:43:12pm

re: #98 Anymouse

My wife points out the woman involved in this auto fiasco has “88” tattooed on her neck. (I never noticed that.) Perhaps that’s why she despises me so much (particularly when I went after the library board - of which she is a member - for pursuing a racist policy against Native Americans using the public library in town).

That’s not an eighty eight. She just believes in infinity twice as much as anyone else, and wears the courage of her convictions.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:44:07pm

re: #97 Anymouse

To get our Republican members of the town board to sign on to the idea of spending the money to enforce the ordinance against parking unregistered vehicles on the street is going to require showing them that it might cost us a bunch more not to do it. (I intend to enlist our attorney’s help on this one.)

Have you tried just calling in the State Police to ticket them as abandoned vehicles? Seems like a no brainer if they’re unregistered.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:44:29pm

I reloaded the page and the video says it’s been removed by the user.

attn: Charles

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:44:30pm

re: #99 Moebym

Heil Hitler.

Good grief.

I would point out I’ve never seen that tattoo, but my wife says she has (but at the time did not know what it meant).

That might be why the woman despises me so much (for calling out a racist policy in a library board meeting - the policy was ultimately rejected). That, and liberal/socialist.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:45:50pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:47:57pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

Have you tried just calling in the State Police to ticket them as abandoned vehicles? Seems like a no brainer if they’re unregistered.

The state police will not enforce village ordinances, nor will the county sheriff. As an incorporated city of 128 people, we’re required to enforce our own ordinances.

We did have productive discussion tonight though about this problem. Discussion moved forward on either hiring a town marshal or hiring the county sheriff’s office to enforce our ordinances. (We haven’t had a marshal since the Eighties.)

The problem with hiring a new marshal is the marshal has to be certified as a law enforcement officer in the state. (We could for example, hire a sheriff’s deputy or a state trooper as a marshal, or perhaps an unemployed cop in the area.) The village attorney is looking into the issue to figure out which would be the easiest way to go.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:49:43pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

I reloaded the page and the video says it’s been removed by the user.

attn: Charles

Hmm. Thanks for letting me know. I took it down too, with a note.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:51:39pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Thanks for letting me know. I took it down too, with a note.

It still works on Twitter.

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cat-tikvah  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:52:43pm

re: #37 Interesting Times

I was there! At least one of our Senators actually talks to constituents. The other one doesn’t have the cojones.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:53:07pm

Last twitter gif of the night…

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:53:27pm

The woman in question is the distributor for my local newspaper. (She delivers them to various villages around the area for local people to deliver to homes.)

I suppose I could call my paper and cancel my subscription but I doubt one subscriber would mean much to them.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:54:43pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Thanks for letting me know. I took it down too, with a note.

Perhaps Olbermann has been Detained?

For the good of the American people, of course. Enemy of the State, and all that.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 9:58:44pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

Last twitter gif of the night…

OK, I lied…

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:00:17pm

re: #111 austin_blue

Perhaps Olbermann has been Detained?

For the good of the American people, of course. Enemy of the State, and all that.

Giphy

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:01:24pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

Last twitter gif of the night…

[Embedded content]

And nothing provides humor as much as a fat Corgi.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:02:33pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

OK, I lied…

[Embedded content]

Texas driver after a 1/4” ice storm.

Tragic.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:08:42pm
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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:13:21pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

That’ll work a treat!

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:17:46pm

re: #117 retired cynic

That’ll work a treat!

I used to be disgusted, but now I’m just amused…

FFS, how could we get this jaded this fast?

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:18:48pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

No appearance of corruption there.

On one hand, if the attorney that used to represent FOX comes in with a verdict against them, he would look as though he was not corrupted by his former work.

On the other hand, if he were to lose the case (or abandon it), it would look as if it was corruption, even if the case against FOX is not a winnable case.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:19:06pm

re: #118 austin_blue

I used to disgusted, but now I’m just amused…

FFS, how could we get this jaded this fast?

I’m not jaded. I’m livid. But if I stayed at full boil constantly I’d explode. Like that pressure cooker.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:19:36pm

re: #119 Anymouse

No appearance of corruption there.

On one hand, if the attorney that used to represent FOX comes in with a verdict against them, he would look as though he was not corrupted by his former work.

On the other hand, if he were to lose the case (or abandon it), it would look as if it was corruption, even if the case against FOX is not a winnable case.

They haven’t cared so far.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:22:09pm

re: #120 retired cynic

I’m not jaded. I’m livid. But if I stayed at full boil constantly I’d explode. Like that pressure cooker.

Me too. If you are in a Cat 5 shitstorm long enough you’ve either got to start laughing or die.

Maybe that’s the plan.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:23:10pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Me too. If you are in a Cat 5 shitstorm long enough you’ve either got to start laughing or die.

Maybe that’s the plan.

I’m not laughing yet; just trying not to blow the top out of the stove.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:23:23pm

re: #119 Anymouse

No appearance of corruption there.

On one hand, if the attorney that used to represent FOX comes in with a verdict against them, he would look as though he was not corrupted by his former work.

On the other hand, if he were to lose the case (or abandon it), it would look as if it was corruption, even if the case against FOX is not a winnable case.

Pretty sure that his prior confidences means he’ll have to recuse himself from anything to do with the prosecution of his former client.

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:25:44pm

re: #121 retired cynic

They haven’t cared so far.

Warren G. Harding

Warren G. Harding, he of the “Ohio Gang” and Teapot Dome, was a piker compared to Trumpzilla.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:31:16pm

Bernie Bros are still demonstrating the same refusal to digest basic fact that served them so well during the primary race.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:31:21pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:32:56pm

My wife is doing further research on the wingnuts that live a block from me with all the cars in the street. Seems he owns a transport company (which he lists his home as the business address).

Has a USDOT number and everything.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:34:46pm

re: #128 Anymouse

My wife is doing further research on the wingnuts that live a block from me with all the cars in the street. Seems he owns a transport company (which he lists his home as the business address).

Has a USDOT number and everything.

Sainted small business owner!

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:35:03pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

Not surprising at all.

The BernieBros have yet to really accept that Bernie was not a Democrat, ran outside of the party, and only gets re-elected because his small state (like other not very populous states) return incumbents.

VT, not unlike say Alaska, can toy with all sorts of silly fantasies because they can live off the security of being part of a nation composed of much more populated regions that carry on the economy and government.

Ultimately I think the American electorate will simply tire of all this insufferable whining (by whomever, not just the Berniebros.)

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:35:58pm

We’re gonna close the Department of Energy…
psst… Office of Secure Transportation (DoE)

This troubled, covert agency is responsible for trucking nuclear bombs across America each day

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:43:15pm

re: #129 retired cynic

Sainted small business owner!

Well, there’s other stuff going on with them too. Not going to bring that up here (privacy, &c).

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:44:18pm

The CT just jumps from Pres to Pres.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:46:05pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

We’re gonna close the Department of Energy…
psst… Office of Secure Transportation (DoE)

[Embedded content]

This troubled, covert agency is responsible for trucking nuclear bombs across America each day

Jesus that was terrifying.

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majii  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:48:32pm

re: #93 Eclectic Cyborg

“If you willingly go swimming with sharks, you don’t get to bitch about how sharp the teeth are.”

My opinion of them is frick ‘em all, all of ‘em. They got on the Trump Bandwagon but paid no attention to the fire that was burning under the floorboard of the wagon. Now that the flames are licking at their feet, they’re suddenly concerned? I don’t give a frick about them, or about the democrats/progressives/independents who voted for entertainment, sh*tty rhetoric, and false promises over good governance, and I’ve posted this on Facebook several times. I’m tired of trying to tell some others what’s going on, have them ignore me, and when the sh*t hits the fan, they freak put. Whether this bill passes or not, I will be fine, and if they cut Medicare, I will be fine because I planned my retirement, managed my money, and retired at 56. I’ll be eligible for Medicare in December. I’m not worried about the tools in D.C. or those who voted for them. I’m a retired high school teacher, and I mentioned on Facebook that this is what happens when some persons don’t do their homework. If one depends on some talking head on TV, some pol, pundit, “c”hristofascist leader, or radio entertainer to explain issues to them and take their word as gospel, it’s their fault, not mine. I have no sympathy for them because surely, those who label themselves as exceptional persons should be able to vote in their best interests, but noooo, they’d rather vote for liars, propaganda peddlers, BSers, conspiracy theorists, hypocrites, shills, scammers, and those with other assorted misanthropic, anti-American, traits.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:49:36pm

re: #130 freetoken

Not surprising at all.

The BernieBros have yet to really accept that Bernie was not a Democrat, ran outside of the party, and only gets re-elected because his small state (like other not very populous states) return incumbents.

VT, not unlike say Alaska, can toy with all sorts of silly fantasies because they can live off the security of being part of a nation composed of much more populated regions that carry on the economy and government.

Ultimately I think the American electorate will simply tire of all this insufferable whining (by whomever, not just the Berniebros.)

I’m moderately surprised but this one actually turned the corner and decided to be a decent person.

This is a very weird feeling, I have no idea what to do with my newfound optimism towards humanity.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:53:28pm

re: #134 goddamnedfrank

I think this was part of an NCIS episode, IIRC. Terrorists managed to hack into the transport company’s computer system and hijacked one of the trucks.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:54:31pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, I’m so goddamned jaded at this point that it actually fucks me up when people aren’t complete dicks.

Like, I have almost no idea how to deal with unexpected decency.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:56:09pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

This is a very weird feeling, I have no idea what to do with my newfound optimism towards humanity.

Ignore it, it’s transitory. Somebody will destroy it tomorrow, if not sooner.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:56:53pm

re: #83 Interesting Times

sigh… -_-

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To quote a wise man, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” There’s no choice on the ballot that says “I don’t want to deal with the consequences of my actions for 4 years.” You had a choice: a shit sandwich or (worst interpretation) “more of the same.” You chose…poorly.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:57:28pm

re: #135 majii

You might want to be worried.

Conservatives are looking to gut Medicare as well. They are also looking for more ways to provide Weathcare for Billionaires by allowing things such as looting teachers’ pension funds for investment theft.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:57:46pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

I’m moderately surprised but this one actually turned the corner and decided to be a decent person.

[Embedded content]

This is a very weird feeling, I have no idea what to do with my newfound optimism towards humanity.

Watch some Youtube videos, that feeling will pass pretty quickly.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 10:58:25pm

re: #137 wheat-dogg

I think this was part of an NCIS episode, IIRC.

Sure but at this point what wasn’t? That show’s been on so long it’s is like Rule 34, if you can imagine it they’ve probably done it.

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majii  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:00:48pm

re: #141 Anymouse

“You might want to be worried.”

“Conservatives are looking to gut Medicare as well. They are also looking for more ways to provide Weathcare for Billionaires by allowing things such as looting teachers’ pension funds for investment theft.”

Whatever they do, I’ll be alright because I planned for retirement before I retired. I paid off all my expenses except my mortgage before I retired, and I have three years’ worth of payments remaining.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:02:00pm

re: #135 majii

Moreover, plenty of people never had enough money to manage in the first place (me, for example).

I didn’t vote for the fascist talking yam or his Vichy collaborators in Congress, but I will suffer the consequences of those who did.

They’ll thank me for my service and wave the flag while they take away the VA (and my disability compensation).

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:03:14pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

Sure but at this point what wasn’t? That show’s been on so long it’s is like Rule 34, if you can imagine it they’ve probably done it.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:04:03pm

Semper fick!

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majii  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:04:41pm

re: #145 Anymouse

“Moreover, plenty of people never had enough money to manage in the first place (me, for example).”

Yes, but I admire you because you and your wife paid cash for your house [something I should have done.] I also admire you and your dad’s military contributions to this country. Andddd, you’re one smart guy!

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:07:48pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

We’re gonna close the Department of Energy…
psst… Office of Secure Transportation (DoE)

[Embedded content]

This troubled, covert agency is responsible for trucking nuclear bombs across America each day

Well, not EACH day, but when nukes are transported, they are the people that do it.

The US is in a 10-year cycle of repleniishing its bombs. This requires them to be transported to Pantex in the panhandle of Texas, and having the tritium gas injection tanks removed and replaced. Tritium is injected into the nuclear cores prior to arming and detonation. This determines the explosive yield of the weapon. The more tritium in the well, the bigger the fusion yield. It decays over time, requiring refreshment. The cores are relatively stable, compared to the tritium, which naturally decays at a faster rate.

These are our primary gravity bombs:

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

Both of these are dial-a-yield bombs, the B-61 up to 340 KT and the B-83 up to 1.2 MT.

The cores of the weapons are also used in land based and sub based ballistic missiles.

As an old SAC pilot, I can tell you what these things can do. With a single B-52, (four gravity weapons, and six SRAMSs (Short Range Attack Missiles) a single bomb run dropping MT range bombs on Atlanta, DC, Philadelphia, and NYC, and with high KT SRAMs on Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham, Fairfax County, Baltimore, and two on greater Boston could kill 70 million people.

Nice, huh?

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:09:37pm
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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:11:26pm

re: #148 majii

“Moreover, plenty of people never had enough money to manage in the first place (me, for example).”

Yes, but I admire you because you and your wife paid cash for your house [something I should have done.] I also admire you and your dad’s military contributions to this country. Andddd, you’re one smart guy!

Well, our house didn’t cost a whole lot (a Mercedes or Cadillac Escalade cost way more than our house did). As for being a smart guy, I suppose that depends on who is doing the assessment.

Thank you for the compliments, however.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:12:23pm

re: #147 Nyet

My guess, DCIS, CID, NCIS, AFOSI and CGIS asked them to leave everything up, so the could dig into it all without having to get search warrants to see followers and archived (once shut down) postings

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:12:30pm

re: #149 austin_blue

Boy, leave it to LGF to educate and scare the heck out of you.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:12:53pm

re: #150 Nyet

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This effort to act as though we all got snookered by Trump and what he’s doing is a complete surprise to everybody is absolute bullshit. If you paid any sort of attention last year, what’s happened since Election Night should not come as a surprise. And before it’s brought up, yes, I know there are people who live in a cocoon of misinformation. Guess what: They’re the people bitching the loudest now.

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majii  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:15:40pm

re: #151 Anymouse

“As for being a smart guy, I suppose that depends on who is doing the assessment.”

Mine is based on the well-documented material and logical, realistic comments you make here at LGF. Your wife might have a different opinion, though. LOL.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:16:38pm

Happy π Day!

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:17:31pm
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Alyosha  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:19:23pm

re: #156 Anymouse

Happy π Day!

Here in Australia, coz we do the dd/mm thing, Pi Day actually falls on the third of Decembuary.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:20:30pm

You are all heretics anyway. Pi equals 3. Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:22:47pm

re: #159 Nyet

You are all heretics anyway. Pi equals 3. Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it.

That’s it. Go sit in the corner.
No pie for you, not even some cobbler…

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:24:30pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart

That’s it. Go sit in the corner.
No pie for you, not even some cobbler…

EVEN cobbler. Cobbler is better than pie! Yum!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:26:43pm
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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:27:57pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Frank’s on a roll!

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:29:22pm

The biggest trial in decades in my county is over; a murder. (The last murder in this county was in the Thirties.)

The man in question was sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder, and two other sentences involving a felon in possession of a gun.

starherald.com

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:29:39pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

Don’t know how much money Ms. Weiner has made from normalizing fascism as spectacle, and whether she did at all. Haven’t been following her career.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:32:44pm

re: #165 Nyet

Don’t know how much money Ms. Weiner has made from normalizing fascism as spectacle, and whether she did at all. Haven’t been following her career.

I meant the times and media as a whole. So much effort went into analyzing style over substance, into treating the election as entertainment. Now real people are suffering because Trump is doing exactly what he promised and these same institutions have the nerve to act surprised by it all.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:33:10pm

This seems overwrought.

The Golden State Warriors’ Andre Iguodala Fined $10,000 for Making Remark About Working for ‘Master’ (link goes to The Root)

Link

So no censure for Congressman King huh…..

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:33:34pm

re: #165 Nyet

Don’t know how much money Ms. Weiner has made from normalizing fascism as spectacle, and whether she did at all. Haven’t been following her career.

I believe Frank’s point is that she still has a job at the Failing New York Times, which is a fair comment.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:34:10pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

I meant the times and media as a whole.

Ms. Weiner’s opinion is her own and doesn’t represent the opinion of the NYT. I see no evidence that the NYT as a whole found Trump riveting or normalized fascism as a spectacle.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:34:40pm

re: #155 majii

“As for being a smart guy, I suppose that depends on who is doing the assessment.”

Mine is based on the well-documented material and logical, realistic comments you make here at LGF. Your wife might have a different opinion, though. LOL.

My wife’s opinion was a shoulder shrug when I read your comment to her, followed by “Well, I think you’re smart.” (She also says that about the cat.)

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:34:59pm

re: #168 austin_blue

I believe Frank’s point is that she still has a job at the Failing New York Times, which is a fair comment.

Nice of you to appropriate the sex-predator-in-chief’s language towards the NYT.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:37:37pm

re: #169 Nyet

Ms. Weiner’s opinion is her own and doesn’t represent the opinion of the NYT. I see no evidence that the NYT as a whole found Trump riveting or normalized fascism as a spectacle.

Of course it did. They all did. The NYT did a better job of covering the meat and potatoes of policy, but even it gave more coverage to the circus that was Drumpf’s campaign. And I’m a subscriber.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:38:48pm

re: #172 austin_blue

Of course it did. They all did. The NYT did a better job of covering the meat and potatoes of policy, but even it gave more coverage to the circus that was Drumpf’s campaign. And I’m a subscriber.

Because they were supposed not to write about Trump’s campaign during the election season. Gotcha.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:40:15pm

re: #171 Nyet

Nice of you to appropriate the sex-predator-in-chief’s language towards the NYT.

As you will note by my last post, that would come under the heading of “sarcasm”. Sorry I didn’t include the tag. I thought, given my history here, that it was obvious.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:48:18pm

Anyway, any media outlet fails at times, and sure, the NYT has failed lots of times last season. It’s easy to ascribe craven and nefarious motives to failure, but sometimes it’s just that - a failure without a deeper “there” there.

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Anymouse  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:48:28pm

re: #174 austin_blue

As you will note by my last post, that would come under the heading of “sarcasm”. Sorry I didn’t include the tag. I thought, given my history here, that it was obvious.

/s

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:49:18pm

re: #159 Nyet

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:49:27pm

re: #176 Anymouse

/s

Heh.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:55:24pm

re: #149 austin_blue

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:56:37pm

re: #169 Nyet

Ms. Weiner’s opinion is her own and doesn’t represent the opinion of the NYT. I see no evidence that the NYT as a whole found Trump riveting or normalized fascism as a spectacle.

They said he’d pivot. They straight up lied about the content of one of his speeches:

Those who watched the speech will realize that The Times is highly overstating the extent to which Trump appeared to pivot or reverse himself during his Phoenix speech. He actually did the opposite, promising to deport millions in his first hour of being president and vowing that “anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation.” Put another way: The Times thought that a speech that was lavishly praised by Ann Coulter and David Duke represented a “stark turnaround” on Trump’s part.

As criticism mounted, the piece received massive edits. The new lede is a complete turnaround from what The Times originally reported, but the piece contains no correction or editor’s note explaining the edits.

They made a deal with the author of Clinton Cash for early access to his bullshit research. They lied about a “criminal inquiry” of Clinton that never existed as such. Maybe you see things differently but I saw a concerted effort by the Times to bend their reporting guidelines so as to create an idea that the two campaigns were morally and ethically in the same ballpark, when they objectively weren’t.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2017 • 11:57:45pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:05:34am

Night all, talk atcha on the ‘morrow.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:06:59am

re: #175 Nyet

Anyway, any media outlet fails at times, and sure, the NYT has failed lots of times last season. It’s easy to ascribe craven and nefarious motives to failure, but sometimes it’s just that - a failure without a deeper “there” there.

At least the good news is they’ve been amply rewarded for their failures, subscription growth has increased by an order of magnitude. Say what I will about the entertainment model of politics & reporting, it definitely sells.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:08:42am

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

See, Trump is good for business.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:12:27am

re: #184 freetoken

See, Trump is good for business.

Especially for Nazi and Dixie flag sellers.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:14:46am

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

The problem with your approach is that you only see the failures.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:21:15am

re: #113 teleskiguy

I had to tweet this GIF, it’s the best one I’ve pasted together so far in 2017.

Based on one of my very favorite Disney cartoons, MusicLand.

Silly Symphonies - Music Land

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:23:05am

re: #187 teleskiguy

Is that metronome one of Ben Carson’s grain pyramids?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:23:11am

re: #186 Nyet

The problem with your approach is that you only see the failures.

Not surprising, see my #138 regarding how fucking jaded I’ve become. Hard for me to really feel like celebrating the successes when millions of people are slated to lose their healthcare over all this, when people are being targeted on the basis of their religion and/or ethnicity, when we went from a functioning if flawed democracy to a kakistocracy overnight.

I’m not blaming the Times or even the larger media exclusively, there is something truly dysfunctional and disgusting about how our society functions as a whole. But at the same time I’m not going to ignore the fact that the media had one job, to accurately inform the public, and they made an absolute shit ton of money abrogating it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:25:51am

Ireland passes the most important test of all.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:30:27am

I see there is some butthurt out there over Sunday’s WDYTYA (US version) which featured Julie Bowen.

Bowen discovers one of her great grandfathers…

… was the head of the American Protective League.

She then draws parallels to the anti-Muslim movement in America today.

That appears to have ruffled some feathers.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:31:19am

You can watch it here: tlc.com

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:34:22am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

That’s a hoot!
Beyonce O’Knowles-Carter!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:34:27am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:39:23am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:43:58am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

The one TD who trolled the questioner with three Adele songs was a bit of a hoot as well.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:44:51am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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I have no desire to look like Steve King. I have even less desire for my wife to look like Steve King.

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:45:19am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

He’s one who has actually been pretty open about it.

He’s never been a good wistler.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:48:15am

I just discovered this duo via Tiny Desk Concert. Fenomeno!

Youtube Video

This time with the right link!

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:52:28am

It’s a lengthy thread. If you want to read the whole thing, start here.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:53:00am

re: #198 JordanRules

He’s one who has actually been pretty open about it.

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He’s never been a good wistler.

If they censure King and kick him out of the House he’ll just go make a fortune in right wing talk radio. There is no such thing as going too far for conservatives anymore, Milo Yiannopoulos notwithstanding … and Milo was arguably never so much as conservative as a parasitic hedonistic nihilist just using conservatism for the grift.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:54:55am

It’s the middle of March… and at midnight it’s still 66F here… very unusual.

But the weather in San Diego has been really weird the past few years. Being where we are located (between the sea and the desert), there has always been quite a bit of day to day variability, on whether the continental air dominates, or if the ocean dominates.

Yet the La Niña didn’t last long and now we see rising temps again.

Hard to imagine how this place will feel in another decade, if global surface temps go up by another .25C . We’re becoming like La Paz, I’m afraid. By the end of the century San Diego will be a different place. By the end of the 22nd century this locale could seem quite different from today. We’re likely on an RCP4.5 scenario (the only thing keeping the world from even more intesive carbon output will be economics and practical limits in oil and coal production.)

The future will be very warm around here.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:00:46am

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

If they censure King and kick him out of the House he’ll just go make a fortune in right wing talk radio. There is no such thing as going too far for conservatives anymore, Milo Yiannopoulos notwithstanding … and Milo was arguably never so much as conservative as a parasitic hedonistic nihilist just using conservatism for the grift.

I would much rather see Steve King on the Wingnut Welfare circuit than having tax money pay to spew his racist crap.

That said, the GOP would never kick him out of the House, and it’s unlikely they’d even censure him (some representatives or senators might speak with him privately about toning down the rhetoric).

Although I don’t have much money, I would consider sending a few Ameros over to a Democratic challenger (there are a few considering it at the moment, including the woman who lost to Mr. King last time round).

More Ameros would have to go to my own House district if the Dems can get their act together behind a candidate here though.

en.wikipedia.org (2018 races in Iowa)

Right now my district is rated R+23 so it could be a close race. (NE-2 is much closer at R+4)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:00:51am

Reload my 199 for the correct video. I swear my laptop ignores my CTRL-C about half the time.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:02:32am

Resi Steigler had a bad time at Squaw/Alpine recently. She went full-on Happy Gilmore on a ski pole when she got back on her feet.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:02:45am

re: #204 wheat-dogg

Reload my 199 for the correct video. I swear my laptop ignores my CTRL-C about half the time.

Maybe you should use Kellyanne Conway’s ALT-CTRL-C

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:07:06am

re: #206 Anymouse

Maybe you should use Kellyanne Conway’s ALT-CTRL-C

That turns on the camera in the microwave! No way!

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:07:37am

I’m a white guy, I understand perfectly. I’ve also known it for a long time.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:08:49am

LOL …

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:10:26am

re: #208 Anymouse

Certainly the Republicans in Iowa didn’t distance themselves. Not only did the renominate him (with support from the state GOP), he’s been reelected a few times now.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:10:40am

I ain’t watching this. Someone else will have to take a hit for the team.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:12:23am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:13:09am

Nice to know David Duke likes Syria’s leader. Does that mean he is in favour or opposed to the administration putting Marines on the ground in Syria?

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:14:25am

Kellyanne Conway’s first spy kit:

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:16:37am

re: #213 Anymouse

“True love, loyalty” is flattening the biggest cities in your country to forever silence all opposition, I guess. David FuckDuke wants to sterilize black people. So, par for the fuckin’ course, right?

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:19:04am

re: #215 teleskiguy

“True love, loyalty” is flattening the biggest cities in your country to forever silence all opposition, I guess. David FuckDuke wants to sterilize black people. So, par for the fuckin’ course, right?

I’m not terribly big on the idea of the death penalty, but I really think that President Andrew Johnson made a big mistake in not prosecuting the leaders of the Southern Seditious Rebellion for treason.

The death penalty didn’t have to be applied - life imprisonment would have been sufficient.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:21:00am

Your overnight in-flight video tonight is on… economics. A video which will likely make the Trumpers upset:

North American Competitiveness Outlook Without NAFTA

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:22:27am

When the media reports that Republicans have “distanced themselves” from King’s remarks, what they mean is “They’ve told Steve in private not to say that shit out loud.”

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:25:00am

re: #218 Targetpractice

When the media reports that Republicans have “distanced themselves” from King’s remarks, what they mean is “They’ve told Steve in private not to say that shit out loud.”

Yup.

Very few Republicans have publicly called Steve King out. Jeb Bush did, but he doesn’t hold an office and is unlikely to run again. No political cost to him.

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:27:18am

Wait…Alex Jones did what?!?! Oh lordy. He’s such a pathetic weirdo.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:27:19am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:30:43am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:37:45am

Malala may be going to Oxford.

independent.co.uk

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:40:13am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:43:46am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:53:02am

Steve King’s district was built by “other people’s babies,” notes Tim Murphy. Specifically, his grandfather.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:59:06am

Long thread, a reminder of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, advanced by Democrats to restrict abortion rights under the ACA so the Republicans wouldn’t do something worse.

In truth, the Republicans will always reach farther on this issue. There is no need to try to offer a “compromise” position with conservatives, because they do not bargain in good faith.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:59:23am

re: #226 Anymouse

As you are probably aware, Iowa has been losing Representatives, as its population has not grown with the national growth rate. So King’s district today is rather large in area, covering parts of the state that formerly may have not been so atavistic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:08:28am

Idiots
Out
Wandering
Around

(btw, my dad was from Durfee, Iowa)

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Alyosha  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:12:56am

re: #211 Anymouse

She’s not funny but I will say that anyone who bombs that badly but stays on stage shows a remarkable will. If nothing else it demonstrates how she’s able to lie constantly in the face of an even larger audience and not even flinch away.

Verdict: a comedian’s soul, with a flinty conservative’s unselfconscious sensibilities but without a gimmick. It’s practised timing with no sense of irony (which in any act would ruin it). She gets that comedy is self-deprecation, but lacks the tools to fully realise the extent of her own debasement.
Ultimately, her act is Milleresque but without the forceful delivery. It was uncertain of itself while demanding, in its content, a certain authority.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:15:45am

re: #228 freetoken

As you are probably aware, Iowa has been losing Representatives, as its population has not grown with the national growth rate. So King’s district today is rather large in area, covering parts of the state that formerly may have not been so atavistic.

Wikipedia has a set of district maps from 1973-present. Back in 1973, Iowa had six districts. Today they have four.

Steve King’s district includes Council Bluffs (the large city opposite Omaha) and a whole lot of rural area.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:16:58am

re: #231 Anymouse

en.wikipedia.org (Iowa Congressional Districts)

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:28:28am

re: #83 Interesting Times

sigh… -_-

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If you didn’t vote, you’re part of the problem.

If you voted third party, you’re part of the problem.

If you voted for Trump, you’re definitely part of the problem.

If you voted for Trump because he pandered to you with talk about “bringing back coal”, you’re a fucking moron and definitely part of the problem.

How about we treat Trump voters like they’re adults and make them accept some personal responsibility for their choices?

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:28:40am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:30:00am

re: #231 Anymouse

King’s district is the heart of Vander Plaats land, where rural communities can end up being very religious. The more populated central and eastern parts of the state are less atavistic and more Democratic.

There are parallels in other states. Minnesota is considered a “blue” state, but that is true in only some regions, and as others have noted the rich outer burbs north of Minneapolis is wingnut territory.

Even here in California, the more rural mountainous areas are often right-wing. Perhaps less religious (outside of the Riverside/San Diego area) than other Republican strongholds around the nation, but the hills are full of wingnuts. It’s just that our urban areas are really large.

Same holds true for Oregon and Washington. The urban areas are “liberal”, the rural areas tend to be more religious and wingnutty (see esp. parts of Oregon.)

So what we have around this country is a deepening urban/rural divide. And if my Facebook wall is any indication, the rural folk are getting more resentful of this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:35:00am

re: #235 freetoken

So what we have around this country is a deepening urban/rural divide. And if my Facebook wall is any indication, the rural folk are getting more resentful of this.

Because urban folks have more chances to find new employment when their company (or industry) fails. Rural folks are left with seasonal work or the local Wal-Mart.

And rural folks are more susceptible to the GOP pipe-dream of the Jeffersonian gentleman farmer, living on his self-sufficient acreage, entering only into contracts and agreements of his own free will, and hostile towards a government that is there in his eyes only to “limit his options”.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:45:06am

The White House is scrambling to explain why their own leaked estimate was worse than the CBO numbers.

White House officials late Monday night disputed that the document is an analysis of the bill’s coverage effects. Instead, they say it was an attempt by the Office of Management and Budget to predict what CBO’s scorekeepers would conclude about the GOP repeal plan.

“This is not an analysis of the bill in any way whatsoever,” White House Communications Director Michael Dubke told POLITICO. “This is OMB trying to project what CBO’s score will be using CBO’s methodology.”

LOL, OK. Not sure why OMB would be trying to rush out an ersatz CBO score in advance since everyone knew the real CBO score was going to be devastating based on previous unreleased iterations of the ACA repeal bill and they never planned to include OMB’s score in their decision making paradigm.

Still, if true it’s another good example of how this White House can’t even tie its shoes without managing to shit the bed. Because now it looks like A.) They were prepared for it to be even worse, and B.) They’ve shown that OMB’s methodology isn’t some bullshit random number generator, but instead a fairly well understood formula that produces estimates within a relatively narrow margin.

So now they’re going to triple down by selling a bunch of magic fairy dust and insane boot-strappy nonsense that bears no similarity with observable reality whatsoever.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:45:07am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

More pointedly, in densely populated areas cultural evolution moves along quickly, as one encounters a higher flux of the “other” and forces change.

Isolation allows for avoidance of these changes.

I have nothing against rural folk. I come from the middle of nowhere. I have plenty of relatives that live in the rural landscape.

But America in 2017 is defined by the rapid change in the urban areas, where there are now growing populations of people whose ancestors were not colonial Americans or late 19th century immigrants from Northern Europe. Lots of brown people, speaking languages from all over the world.

The video I posted earlier about NAFTA and economics comes into play here. Though Trump will deny it, the increase in trade means jobs everywhere, including the US. Yet these jobs are where people live, and that means it is more likely for an American to find employment in a metropolitan area.

Sure, Iowa has a low unemployment rate. That’s because the loss of manufacturing jobs has already worked its way through the state, and all those people at Maytag or Amana or whatever have either died, moved, or are retired.

Real growth for the lightly populated ares of this country will come about only if they make large investments in building up targeted areas, with spending on transportation and education. Will they do that?

And what will become of farming, which can be even further automated than it already is (think drones)? How many of the (dwindling in number) family farms in Iowa can be converted to automated corporate farms? All of them probably, which means even fewer people living in rural areas.

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Botsplainer  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:46:09am

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

One of the guys in my office who had been a career prosecutor - has several public integrity and white collar conviction notches on his gun (along with some death penalty cases, including a notorious serial killer) scored two tickets. He hates Trump, and is going specifically to heckle - and has invited me to do it, too. Our wives hate us for it….

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:01:03am

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

We must accept that the “White House” is simply dysfunctional. Our nation will survive by momentum, but damage is being done. We need to press Congress to act in our interest in the meantime.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:03:01am

re: #240 freetoken

We must accept that the “White House” is simply dysfunctional. Our nation will survive by momentum, but damage is being done. We need to press Congress to act in our interest in the meantime.

This is what kills me, most of our institutions seem to be failing us at an incredibly critical juncture.

Only the video game industry seems to have its shit together.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:03:36am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

Only the video game industry seems to have its shit together.

Atari forever.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:05:15am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

This is what kills me, most of our institutions seem to be failing us at an incredibly critical juncture.

Only the video game industry seems to have its shit together.

Mass Effect Andromeda 03/21!!!!!

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:06:11am

That does raise a good point though - the rest of the world will keep changing, adapting, and growing, even while the American body politic has its collective heads up its collective asses.

The dominant engine of global economics is now China, and more generally the relationship of East Asia with the less-developed but resource-rich parts of the globe.

We’re becoming isolationist by critical-mass-stupidity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:07:30am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

This is what kills me, most of our institutions seem to be failing us at an incredibly critical juncture.

Only the video game industry seems to have its shit together.

People who were fed up with politicians and politics as usual, and expressed their disgust by voting for Trump, are the ones who want to see government being left to flounder helplessly.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:07:58am

Erdogan using refugees as weapons.

re: #243 Timothy Watson

Mass Effect Andromeda 03/21!!!!!

IKR! I’ve been loving Horizon: Zero Dawn, btw. Deliberately completing all the side quests just to draw it out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:15:50am

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

Erdogan using refugees as weapons.

He knows that the EU needs his cooperation to cope with the refugee crisis.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:17:26am

re: #240 freetoken

We must accept that the “White House” is simply dysfunctional. Our nation will survive by momentum, but damage is being done. We need to press Congress to act in our interest in the meantime.

Well, I’m screwed. My representative insists he only represents Republicans.

In news outside the USA, North Korea makes its weekly threat of a “merciless attack” on the USA:
smh.com.au

Seoul: North Korea warned the United States on Tuesday of “merciless” attacks if an aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS Carl Vinson, which is joining South Korean forces for exercises, infringes on its “sovereignty or dignity”.

North Korea, which has alarmed its neighbours with two nuclear tests and a string of missile launches since last year, said the arrival of the US strike group in the area was part of a “reckless scheme” to attack it.

(more at the Sydney Morning Herald)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:20:43am

Wondering if any source will be good enough for this guy.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:22:56am

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

Wondering if any source will be good enough for this guy.

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Surely the all-knowing Bro has a link to the complete tax return, right?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:23:31am

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

It is interesting that Sanders acts like he has something to hide. He’s one of the poorest members of Congress and his returns should be neither complicated nor embarrassing, yet for some reason despite promises we never got a good look at them.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:25:21am

re: #249 goddamnedfrank

Wondering if any source will be good enough for this guy.

[Embedded content]

Well, I suppose you could ask him to go to Sanders’s campaign Website and provide you with a link that shows he released anything beyond his 2014 returns.

He is asserting that Sanders released his tax returns, it is up to him to provide the evidence to support his assertion.

That would be no different than providing evidence for any other assertion (tax cuts spur economic growth, light is propagated through space via aether, flies are spontaneously generated by rotting meat, religious assertions are true, &c)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:25:37am

As predicted, unless it tells this guy what he wants to hear it won’t be deemed a legit source.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:27:37am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

This is what kills me, most of our institutions seem to be failing us at an incredibly critical juncture.

Only the video game industry seems to have its shit together.

Down with the evil empire!

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:28:00am

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

As predicted, unless it tells this guy what he wants to hear it won’t be deemed a legit source.

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He’s moving the goalposts with motorised wheels. The topic is not Hillary Clinton. He should be forced to answer the Sanders question or concede he does not have an answer. (He doesn’t have to admit something like “Sanders is hiding something” since we don’t know that either. All he would have to do is pony up the evidence or admit he does not know of any. If he resists that, then he is following a religion, not a candidate for president.)

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:31:39am

re: #254 Targetpractice

Down with the evil empire!

But, but, Mass Effect Andromeda! I already paid for it. :(

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:33:13am

I Went to Turkey to Meet the President and (Almost) All I Got Was a Meeting with A Conspiracy Theorist (Goes to the Huffington Post)

The writer notes he went to Turkey to interview the Turkish President, but instead wound up with the Mayor of Ankara. The mayor is quite the conspiracy theorist.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:34:09am

re: #255 Anymouse

He’s moving the goalposts with motorised wheels. The topic is not Hillary Clinton. He should be forced to

Not even worth trying, no point in arguing with the blatantly dishonest. I muted him instead.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:35:22am

re: #256 Timothy Watson

But, but, Mass Effect Andromeda! I already paid for it. :(

Hey, in its day EA made some pretty good games for my Commodore 64

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:35:56am

re: #258 goddamnedfrank

Not even worth trying, no point in arguing with the blatantly dishonest. I muted him instead.

Might be worth a tweet telling him he is being dishonest.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:37:12am

And yes, I readily recognize that the stinker of an ending was largely Bioware’s fault, but yanking out one of the best squad mates from ME3 and making him Day One DLC should have tipped me off that that game was gonna be full of disappointments…and feels.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:38:43am

re: #260 Anymouse

Might be worth a tweet telling him he is being dishonest.

Experience informs me otherwise.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:43:17am

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

Experience informs me otherwise.

Well, I presume you know Twitter and its denizens better than I do. I just poke around there and come up with interesting and funny stuff to read. I’m too cowardly to actually get a copy of Tweetdeck and create my own account (that, and my stalker ex-wife is on Twitter).

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:44:01am

re: #261 Targetpractice

And yes, I readily recognize that the stinker of an ending was largely Bioware’s fault, but yanking out one of the best squad mates from ME3 and making him Day One DLC should have tipped me off that that game was gonna be full of disappointments…and feels.

Oh, yeah, I don’t dispute that ME3 sucked.

But I’m a glutton for punishment.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:47:44am
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:50:48am

re: #265 Anymouse

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Come now, what’s wrong with putting a complete amateur in charge of an army. I mean it worked for the Soviets…eventually.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:52:03am

re: #265 Anymouse

To run a company/ university/ army, we want a highly-trained professional. So to run the country let’s pick an ignorant, unqualified amateur

who appoints other clueless dilettantes to key posts…

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:56:10am

re: #266 Targetpractice

Come now, what’s wrong with putting a complete amateur in charge of an army. I mean it worked for the Soviets…eventually.

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Only cost them about twenty million people or so but eventually they simply overwhelmed the Germans.

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who appoints other clueless dilettantes to key posts…

Wingnut Welfare moves to the White House.

I’m more qualified than half these fools, and I haven’t had the benefit of college. (I am smart enough to know that I would need to listen to experts in various fields to arrive at a decision - I do that on the village level now.)

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:00:29am

Off-topic: trying to decide if I should change my avatar here. (I’m not sure what I would change it to, perhaps a CIA issued microwave oven)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:07:24am

re: #269 Anymouse

Off-topic: trying to decide if I should change my avatar here. (I’m not sure what I would change it to, perhaps a CIA issued microwave oven)

a hammer dulcimer!

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:15:37am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a hammer dulcimer!

I could do that.

I am off to bed. I’m really tired and it’s late (early) or something. G’night y’all.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:36:04am

re: #141 Anymouse

You might want to be worried.

Conservatives are looking to gut Medicare as well. They are also looking for more ways to provide Weathcare for Billionaires by allowing things such as looting teachers’ pension funds for investment theft.

My Federal Civil Service pension has been on the RepubliKKKlan chopping block ever since I started in 1978. They’ve whittled it away piece by piece. When I started in 1978, if I put 30 years of service in I could retire with 80% of my salary with a COLA every 6 months or I could withdraw all of what I put in and retire with 2/3 of my salary. They took the withdrawl option away when Pruneface Reagan signed then1986 tax “reform” bill. Pruneface also took away the 6 month COLA and stuck us with an annual DIET COLA.

They’ve cut the pension amount under every President EXCEPT Bill Clinton.

Obama signed away using my locality pay to calculate my pension amount (that is a massive 19.2% hit for me in Los Angeles). I didn’t switch off to the new FERS Ripoff that Pruneface Reagan signed because I knew that the “Thrift Savings Plan” just benefitted Wall Street.

And now I have to work 43 years to get 80%. Now Trump wants to raise that to 50 years under the old pension system and cut that from 80% to 66 2/3% plus that asshole wants me to pay 5% more of my salary into the fund. Most of the time I’ve been in Civil Service I had 7% of my salary deducted for my pension except when Old Fart Bush was in office and he temporarily raised it to 9% (And still only credited the 7% to my account…).

Well, there’s another Powerball drawing tonight…sigh…

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:35am

I want to share with the LGF family the memorial card given out at Chez’s memorial service on Sunday.

May he rest in peace with Bartcop, Andy from Black Box Voting, Senator Wellstone and others who stood up to the RepubliKKKlan thugs…

We will carry on with the fight!
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:50:05am

Those lights Ryan is seeing in the tunnel is the Bannon MAGAot Bus shifting to reverse and getting ready to back over him at 65 mph.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:50:37am

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

As predicted, unless it tells this guy what he wants to hear it won’t be deemed a legit source.

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As Too $hort says, “It ought to be a crime to be that dumb!”

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:52:29am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

Those lights Ryan is seeing in the tunnel is the Bannon MAGAot Bus shifting to reverse and getting ready to back over him at 65 mph.

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Not even 5AM here in Los Angeles and it’s already popcorn time seeing the knives coming out for Lyin’ Ryan!

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:53:29am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:54:21am

re: #274 Myron Falwell

Those lights Ryan is seeing in the tunnel is the Bannon MAGAot Bus shifting to reverse and getting ready to back over him at 65 mph.

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Republicans in Congress are now part of the “Deep State”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:54:30am

re: #272 Joe Bacon

Well, there’s another Powerball drawing tonight…sigh…

Ah yes, the Magnum Lotto Pension Plan: buy a lottery ticket every week until retirement. If you have not won by then, go out, buy a .44 magnum and rob a bank.
Even if you get caught, at least you will be guaranteed a roof over your head, meals and medical care for the rest of your life…

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:59:06am

The war over pensions is going to get more intense. There is a lot of nebulous resentment out there - I don’t call it a “pool” anymore as it is clearly oceanic in scale now - and that resentment can be putty in the hands of a skilled demagogue.

Bottom line is that our retirement systems assume a slow population growth rate. We expect at least as many or more workers in the future, to support the retirees.

This btw is one reason why immigration is a good idea.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:59:37am

re: #278 Timothy Watson

Republicans in Congress are now part of the “Deep State”.

Reminiscent of how the Jacobins started to kill off each other before Robespierre was ousted and executed.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:01:00am

Many retirees today are discovering that the cost of living is becoming more obviously disconnected from their pension.

Owning up to the reality of national economics has not been a forte of Republican dogma in a long time (Gerald Ford?) Starting with Reagan, the GOP has been chasing voodoo.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:01:13am

re: #280 freetoken

The war over pensions is going to get more intense. There is a lot of nebulous resentment out there - I don’t call it a “pool” anymore as it is clearly oceanic in scale now - and that resentment can be putty in the hands of a skilled demagogue.

Bottom line is that our retirement systems assume a slow population growth rate. We expect at least as many or more workers in the future, to support the retirees.

This btw is one reason why immigration is a good idea.

But it would mean the end of white people!!11ty we must make moar babbies!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:22am

re: #282 freetoken

Many retirees today are discovering that the cost of living is becoming more obviously disconnected from their pension.

Owning up to the reality of national economics has not been a forte of Republican dogma in a long time (Gerald Ford?) Starting with Reagan, the GOP has been chasing voodoo.

The infamous Laffer curve and David Stockton’s “trickle down” ecnomics.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:03:07am

OT Freezing rain and sleet in Philly. I called up my place of work and took “Liberal Leave.” I might “burn” eight hours of vacation but I am not out in that mess.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:03:13am

Your science video for the morning. If you may recall, a while back a dig was undertaken in the Rockies that discovered a lot of mammoth fossils. Here is one of the curators discussing the findings:

Beyond Mastodons & Mammoths: Scientific Understanding from the Snowmass Ice Age Discovery

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:04:30am

re: #282 freetoken

Many retirees today are discovering that the cost of living is becoming more obviously disconnected from their pension.

Owning up to the reality of national economics has not been a forte of Republican dogma in a long time (Gerald Ford?) Starting with Reagan, the GOP has been chasing voodoo.

I remember Gerald Ford’s slogan “Stop Having Inflation Today”

Oh wait no it was “Whip Inflation Now”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:19am

re: #284 wheat-dogg

The fundamentals of voodoo economics are, well, wacky.

Bottom line in reality: people == economics. economics == people.

Any ideas foisted that don’t put people first are disconnected from life.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:26am

I mean how do you even do that? Stop Having Inflation? It’s not even something that a random citizen has any control over.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:06:02am

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

I think it’s the acronym which matters…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:08:26am

re: #290 freetoken

I think it’s the acronym which matters…

Being United Lowers Leases: Stop Having Inflation Today

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:16:43am

re: #1 teleskiguy

Gingrich is the absolute last person to talk about fiscal responsibility or anything having to do with politics or money.

Why?

Because he still owes his American vendors nearly $4 million from his failed 2012 campaign. Those businesses have suffered because Newt can’t pay his fucking bills.

If you can’t pay your fucking bills, you don’t get to complain about how the nonpartisan CBO calculates budget projections. They’re far more accurate than the GOP would care to admit, which is why they’re so damned insistent on changing how the CBO scores - going from static scoring to dynamic scoring, which they think helps them rob the Treasury even faster and without as much uproar.

It’s also why the GOP is so angry about how the CBO scored this bill too. Of course, the scoring would be even worse had the CBO had the time to do its macroeconomic analysis, but the GOP was rushing this bill so fast that the CBO couldn’t do a full analysis. In other words, the situation is far worse than even the CBO lets on.

It’s a fucking blizzard of bullshit.

I can handle snow blizzards. But bullshit blizzards? No, I fact check that dumbfuckery.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:17:06am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:18:14am

And right now here in the Northern NJ metro area, it’s the big fat flakes that means we’re getting some serious accumulation. I just got back in from shoveling about 5-6 inches so far. I’m going to try and stay ahead of the snow, but this is going to get insane here especially as the winds crank up.

Stay safe folks.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:19:10am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:23:55am

re: #294 lawhawk

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:31:34am

Some crazy weather out there in the harbor.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:32:43am

re: #296 wheat-dogg

Gorgeous shot.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:36:11am

These GOP fuckers lie about everything. They lie about not cutting Medicare/Medicaid - they’re doing both.

They say that they’re going to expand coverage. Millions fewer will have coverage.

They say coverage will be more affordable. It will be more expensive.

They say that HSAs will help. They wont, not when people don’t even have $500 in emergency funds to cover costs. They don’t fund their IRAs or 401ks, so this wont help most Americans. It wouldn’t help me, and I am financially secure at the moment. It wouldn’t help anyone I know, and most of my friends/family are financially secure as well, but we’re more exceptions than the rule.

The entire GOP plan is a scam. It’s entire purpose is to gut the New Deal. That’s been their goal for decades, and they now have a guy in power who can rubber stamp their agenda.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:38:03am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:07am

re: #298 lawhawk

Gorgeous shot.

Inorite? The early morning lighting helps.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:34am

re: #299 lawhawk

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These GOP fuckers lie about everything. They lie about not cutting Medicare/Medicaid - they’re doing both.

They say that they’re going to expand coverage. Millions fewer will have coverage.

They say coverage will be more affordable. It will be more expensive.

They say that HSAs will help. They wont, not when people don’t even have $500 in emergency funds to cover costs. They don’t fund their IRAs or 401ks, so this wont help most Americans. It wouldn’t help me, and I am financially secure at the moment. It wouldn’t help anyone I know, and most of my friends/family are financially secure as well, but we’re more exceptions than the rule.

The entire GOP plan is a scam. It’s entire purpose is to gut the New Deal. That’s been their goal for decades, and they now have a guy in power who can rubber stamp their agenda.

Well, the best thing about all this is the bill seems to be edging closer and closer to collapse with each passing hour and the DNC hasn’t had to lift a finger to oppose it. Even better, the GOP seems to be prepared to engage in infighting over who deserves the blame for this turd. We’ll see as the day goes on who speaks up for the Speaker and who stands ready to toss him under the bus.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:42:46am

What, is Trump going to fire them both via conference call? Or pull his support from the bill?

IMO the shitshow hasn’t even begun.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:44:12am

Do you want to be a Kiwi?

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:01am

re: #304 wheat-dogg

Do you want to be a Kiwi?

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New Zealand: Where men are men and the sheep are scared.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:47am

re: #304 wheat-dogg

Which would be fine except Peter Fucking Thiel is now also a Kiwi just so he can watch the mushroom cloud over the lower 48.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:57am

Weather update here in NYC metro:

If you’re in NYC or LI, snow totals likely lower than when you went to bed last night. Storm tracking more inland, and warmer temperatures means less accumulating snow. Where I am located? We’re still on track for 18-24 inches. Woo.

And it’s coming down right now as if it wants to do that in the next hour. Wind is starting to pick up here.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:49:11am

re: #306 Myron Falwell

Which would be fine except Peter Fucking Thiel is now also a Kiwi just so he can watch the mushroom cloud over the lower 48.

Thiel and I would never travel in the same circles, so no worries there.

TBH I’ve thought about NZ. The biggest drawback is the distance from family in the States — it would easily add another 6-7 hours of flight time. Not sure it’s worth it.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:52:54am

I didn’t go to work because I am not a fucking idiot who tries driving in ice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:54:15am

Power has been restored to 99% of Detroit-area DTE customers, but there is no rest for the weary.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:55:36am

I thought this was a really great comment over at Daily Kos about Democrats like Manchin, who we all want to strangle at times, but he did come out strongly against Republicare:

Supporting Manchin’s re-nomination as a Democrat isn’t just “think[ing] of the immediate election”. West Virginia’s been hit by a partisan shift that will take decades to reverse, and a lot of careful and patient work. I’d rather have Senator Manchin for those decades than whoever his GOP replacement would be.

Running a progressive who’s out of tune with the state doesn’t help the long-term effort either — it’s just tone-deaf. In fact, pushing the locally-well-liked Manchin out in a primary is probably the single worst thing we could do as a party to convince West Virginians that there is still room for them in our coalition.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:01:26am

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:37am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:17am

re: #300 lawhawk

So, Julius Caesar’s mantra is still popular.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:51am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

Some crazy weather out there in the harbor.

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kinda like the scene from Planet of the Apes.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:05:36am

Live from Worcester, MA (Wooster), the on-the-scene reporter says “the snow is literally accumulating on the sidewalk and road.” While true—it is literally accumulating—it seems overkill.

I got out to get my coffee early this morning. Hunkering down and hoping for no power outages.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:06:25am

A microbiologist visited the ISS to see what else lives there besides human beans, and to offer NASA some advice on how to keep the crews healthy.

npr.org

Staphylococcus aureus we’ll find once in a while; Staphylococcus epidermidis all the time,” says Castro-Wallace, running down a list of resident space station microorganisms. There’s also Staphylococcus hominis (usually harmless), Micrococcus luteus (lives in the mouth and throat), Burkholderia (common in soil; some types can cause lung infection), Sphingomonas (common in water, and rarely harmful), Penicillium (the fungus we find in bread mold) and Aspergillus (more mold), just to name a few.

Recently, an entire wall panel of the station turned green with mold.

“Imagine your shower curtain at its worst,” says Castro-Wallace, pointing out that the wall of mold happened on the Russian side of the space station.

She’s particularly interested in Staph. aureus; a strain of the bacterium that’s resistant to multiple drugs is a particular problem in hospitals, and can turn something as simple as a paper cut dangerous.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:07:07am

re: #314 Birth Control Works

So, Julius Caesar’s mantra is still popular.

Heh, and tomorrow is Caeser’s most favorite day of the year.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:08:09am

re: #319 Myron Falwell

Heh, and tomorrow is Caeser’s most favorite day of the year.

BEWARE!

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:09am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:50am

It’s a sad state of affairs when one regularly consults media from outside the country to get the facts about one’s own country.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:10:54am

re: #313 The Vicious Babushka

Just his microwaves.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:11:11am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:11:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:12:32am

Babies born in America are not “someone else’s babies”, they’re OUR children and OUR future, regardless of color or origin.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:22am

re: #316 Barefoot Grin

Live from Worcester, MA (Wooster), the on-the-scene reporter says “the snow is literally accumulating on the sidewalk and road.” While true—it is literally accumulating—it seems overkill.

I got out to get my coffee early this morning. Hunkering down and hoping for no power outages.

My first attempt at college was at WPI. As a Texan, where ice storms during the winter shut everything down, I was always impressed at Worcester’s ability to have the roads clear of snow so soon after the storm.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:36am

re: #322 Birth Control Works

It’s a sad state of affairs when one regularly consults media from outside the country to get the facts about one’s own country.

Situation normal here in China.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:46am

Peculiar pattern found in ‘random’ prime numbers

Last digits of nearby primes have ‘anti-sameness’ bias.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:14:00am

re: #328 wheat-dogg

Situation normal here in China.

yup

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:15:03am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Babies born in America are not “someone else’s babies”, they’re OUR children and OUR future, regardless of color or origin.

Exactly. My niece isn’t any less American than me since her mother was born in Peru.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:16:06am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Exactly. My niece isn’t any less American than me since her mother was born in Peru.

This idea of drawing a line between babies that count and babies that don’t is more than frustrating to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:16:36am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Exactly. My niece isn’t any less American than me since her mother was born in Peru.

The subtext is of course that only white Americans are true Americans.

Which is inherently unpatriotic and anti-American in nature

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:33am

re: #332 Birth Control Works

This idea of drawing a line between babies that count and babies that don’t is more than frustrating to me.

It offends me honestly. It’s such bigoted crap.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:42am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:57am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The subtext is of course that only white Americans are true Americans.

Which is inherently unpatriotic and anti-American in nature

White Anglos yep.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:15am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The subtext is of course that only white Americans are true Americans.

Which is inherently unpatriotic and anti-American in nature

A long time ago, I saw a propaganda video that warned of the impending demographic change. It urged whites to have lots of white babies.

From what I saw when I was working at my local store —whites were having lots of non-white babies.

I look forward to being a minority —if I live that long.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:22:01am

re: #337 Birth Control Works

A long time ago, I saw a propaganda video that warned of the impending demographic change. It urged whites to have lots of white babies.

From what I saw when I was working at my local store —whites were having lots of non-white babies.

WHAT IS GENOCIDE?

JEW: My people were killed in the millions.
BLACK: My people were bought and sold.
WHITE DUDE: My ex-wife is dating a Filipino.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:02am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The subtext is of course that only white Americans are true Americans.

Which is inherently unpatriotic and anti-American in nature

I wonder if King believes the 14th amendment to have been a mistake.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:42am

YOUR LAME JOKE OF THE DAY

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:06am
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:15am

re: #339 wheat-dogg

I wonder if King believes the 14th amendment to have been a mistake.

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:45am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:24am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:26:01am

re: #337 Birth Control Works

A long time ago, I saw a propaganda video that warned of the impending demographic change. It urged whites to have lots of white babies.

From what I saw when I was working at my local store —whites were having lots of non-white babies.

I look forward to being a minority —if I live that long.

What David Duke does is to try to scare older whites is to something to the effect of your grandchildren will be minorities. Honestly what King was doing is really no different than the nativism of the mid 19th century directed at German and Irish immigrants, then at Slavic, Jewish, and Italian immigrants, and now it’s at Hispanic, Asian, and Arab ones.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:26:34am

re: #339 wheat-dogg

I wonder if King believes the 14th amendment to have been a mistake.

I believe that’s a given.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:28:33am

Racism, xenophobia and unfair discrimination have spawned slavery, when human beings have bought and sold and owned and branded fellow human beings as if they were so many beasts of burden.
Desmond Tutu, in God Is Not A Christian (5 May 2011)], p. 51.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:31:43am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:32:04am

Just changed over to sleet here. And the wind’s picked up too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:33:42am

re: #348 Birth Control Works

A Kansas Politician Compared Planned Parenthood to a Nazi Death Camp

which reminds us that there is no reasoning with these people, all we can hope to do is limit the amount of (permanent) damage they can inflict on the nation

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:37:15am

Texas Bill Would Require Men To Pay a $100 Fine For Masturbating

Mimicking regulations Texas already imposes on women, a state lawmaker introduced a bill that would require men to read an informational pamphlet, receive counseling, and wait 24 hours before having a colonoscopy or vasectomy, or getting a prescription for Viagra. Men would also be fined $100 for masturbating.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:38:38am

re: #348 Birth Control Works

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Yeah fuck you buddy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:39:28am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which reminds us that there is no reasoning with these people, all we can hope to do is limit the amount of (permanent) damage they can inflict on the nation

It’s why I find it impossible to sympathize with Republican voters when they elect people like this. It’s NOT just Trump. In fact, sad to say but Trump is somewhat more sane than your average Republican on PP.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:39:54am

re: #351 Birth Control Works

Texas Bill Would Require Men To Pay a $100 Fine For Masturbating

I do love good trolling.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:41:43am
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MsJ  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:42:08am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:45:50am

re: #355 Birth Control Works

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If that’s part of his “training” then they need new forms of training.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:46:33am

re: #356 MsJ

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I’m going to be tongue in cheek here and mimic Fox resident quack Keith Ablow and say the reason why Ryan hates seniors so much is because he lost his own father so young. //

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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:47:28am

More “both sides do it” from a Gary Johnson voter: (Reason)

A visiting member of my extended family had to brace himself for the next stop on his trip: Calling on his adult children. He intended to try to rebuild his relationships with them after they’d cut ties over his unpardonable sin: He voted for Trump.

Oh, brother….

…if a Gary Johnson voter such as myself can overcome the vast divide between my preferred non-evil candidate and the stock villains put forward by the Republicans and Democrats, surely Clinton and Trump supporters can find a way to bridge the moral sidewalk crack that separates them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:48:47am

re: #359 Ming5000

More “both sides do it” from a Gary Johnson voter: (Reason)

Oh, brother….

I’m tired of smug Libertarian voters acting like their party and ideology has nothing wrong with it.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:49:56am

re: #355 Birth Control Works

Hope they drug test him for steroids. Bet he’d show positive.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:53:21am
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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:54:12am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

The comments… Oh, the comments.
Libertarians (at least at Reason) are OK with their choice to opt out of preventing Trump to win the WH. (HRC is worse, don’t cha know)

Trump has not been bad and far better than Clinton would be. I think military actions in the ME is a huge mistake but I think Trump’s plan is to do what he can and then pull troops out of most foreign locales. I think he is fine with being a 1 term president and does not want American troops perpetually in Iraq, Afghanistan or other shitholes.

And maybe Trump will provide ponies, also too.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:55:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:59:15am

re: #364 Birth Control Works

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Video

cute but they are making a serious mistake. never let the dog lead you through a door. people want dogs to be members of their family, but that is not how to socialize a canine. make it a member of your pack. but you have to be the alpha. never feed it first, always be the one to initiate contact and never let it on your furniture.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:00:53am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:01:37am

re: #363 Ming5000

The comments… Oh, the comments.
Libertarians (at least at Reason) are OK with their choice to opt out of preventing Trump to win the WH. (HRC is worse, don’t cha know)

And maybe Trump will provide ponies, also too.

Fuckers.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:02:46am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cute but they are making a serious mistake. never let the dog lead you through a door. people want dogs to be members of their family, but that is not how to socialize a canine. make it a member of your pack. but you have to be the alpha. never feed it first, always be the one to initiate contact and never let it on your furniture.

hmmm, had dogs for years —even put an obedience title on one.

I always feed first, so I can relax while I eat knowing that most of my daily work is done.

I want my dogs on the furniture —why have a dog if we can’t cuddle?

As for dogs walking first thru the door —if they are on a leash, they know who is in charge.

Believe me, my dogs know who the alpha is.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:04:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:05:53am

re: #368 Birth Control Works

Believe me, my dogs know who the alpha is.

that is the point, if you are not prepared to be alpha, the dog feels compelled to assume that role…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:08:01am

re: #327 Belafon

My first attempt at college was at WPI. As a Texan, where ice storms during the winter shut everything down, I was always impressed at Worcester’s ability to have the roads clear of snow so soon after the storm.

They do a good job up here in NH, too. I grew up with snow in Illinois, but the plowing was often pointless because of the winds and drifting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:08:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:10:44am

SO MUCH STUPIDS IN HERE

“Let’s go very quickly what happens in year one. The mandate goes away. That’s it. None of the new policies kick in. The mandate goes away. What does that mean?” Mulvaney said Tuesday.

“It means the CBO is telling you that someone on the day after the Republican plan goes into effect will drop off of Medicaid they are getting for free and replace it with nothing.”

Mulvaney said the CBO is assuming that once the mandate is gone, those on Medicaid will “give up your free Medicaid and replace it with nothing.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:12:52am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Idiot forgets that Medicaid is for people with little money, so how are they going to afford medical care without Medicaid?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:13:33am

re: #375 wheat-dogg

Idiot forgets that Medicaid is for people with little money, so how are they going to afford medical care without Medicaid?

They’re not. It’s a feature, not a bug.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:14:06am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH STUPIDS IN HERE

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And these are the idiots who insist they understand economics better than liberals. Moron.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:19:38am

re: #359 Ming5000

I just wasted a couple minutes of my time arguing with a Johnson supporter.

Goddamn libertarians.

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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:21:15am

Saw this over at Wonkette comments.

The internet does its thing to folks disrespecting Holocaust memorial.

Makes you think.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:21:28am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

And these are the idiots who insist they understand economics better than liberals. Moron.

MEDICAID IS JUST FREE STUFFS FOR LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!! GET A JERB & PAY FOR UR OWN HEALTH CARE!!!!! not realizing that their low-paying jobs do not include employer-provided healthcare plans.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:22:08am

re: #378 Timothy Watson

I just wasted a couple minutes of my time arguing with a Johnson supporter.

Goddamn libertarians.

My youngest brother decided he’s a libertarian. He’s so weird for one though since he actually admires FDR and considers him his favorite President. But he’s one of these types that believes that businesses should be able to discriminate against whoever they want. He’s consistent I guess and doesn’t see them as heroes standing up to “big gay” but still. I find myself frustrated with libertarians often. I think they don’t take into account the real world we reside in.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:24:52am

re: #311 Belafon

I thought this was a really great comment over at Daily Kos about Democrats like Manchin, who we all want to strangle at times, but he did come out strongly against Republicare:

Yes, this is an excellent point and yet another reason I loathe the beltway blatherers for their lazy-ass use of labels and buzzwords (“centrist”, “blue dog”, “far left”, etc)

Let’s say you have a Democratic senator from a red state who’s against gun control, purports to be pro-life, but strongly defends Medicare and Medicaid and would even vote to expand them.

Then say you have another Democrat who, while supporting more progressive stances on gun control and abortion, votes for GOP-esque “entitlement reform” that guts vital programs?

Both would be labeled “blue dogs” or “centrists”, even though the actual policies they support might be very different once you drill into details.

If you want to know how “progressive” a candidate you can run in a red state, take a look at which progressive policies are popular with voters there and take what you can get.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:26:18am

re: #383 Interesting Times

Yes, this is an excellent point and yet another reason I loathe the beltway blatherers for their lazy-ass use of labels and buzzwords (“centrist”, “blue dog”, “far left”, etc)

Let’s say you have a Democratic senator from a red state who’s against gun control, purports to be pro-life, but strongly defends Medicare and Medicaid and would even vote to expand them.

Then say you have another Democrat who, while supporting more progressive stances on gun control and abortion, votes for GOP-esque “entitlement reform” that guts vital programs?

Both would be labeled “blue dogs” or “centrists”, even though the actual policies they support might be very different once you drill into details.

If you want to know how “progressive” a candidate you can run in a red state, take a look at which progressive policies are popular with voters there and take what you can get.

That is true and I have to say while I do frankly loathe Manchin, I’ll give him credit here.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:31:58am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

That part of the GOP plan is particularly laughable. They spent about 10% of the text of the bill on a provision that affects a few hundred people at most - people who would otherwise consider the ACA except that they’ve won a state lottery. That’s as if this was the most pressing problem with affordable care was that a lottery winner would see coverage under the ACA (even though they wouldn’t qualify for subsidies anyways since they’d be making more than 400% of the poverty rate).

It’s just more of the same fiscal illiteracy from the GOP we’ve been seeing all along.

Eight years to come up with an alternative, and this is the POS they are standing behind?

Well, of course they are standing behind it - it’s a huge tax break for the rich, and shifts burdens on to everyone else by gutting Medicare and Medicaid, including undermining the financial stability of the Medicare trust fund (it goes insolvent 3 years sooner thanks to GOP cuts).

GOP delenda est.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:35:21am

Brat Puppy came in with snow caked to the bottom of his ears.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:36:35am

re: #343 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

B&G is one of my most favorites things. Homemade tho, the stuff from restaurants is hit and miss.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:37:03am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

My youngest brother decided he’s a libertarian. He’s so weird for one though since he actually admires FDR and considers him his favorite President. But he’s one of these types that believes that businesses should be able to discriminate against whoever they want. He’s consistent I guess and doesn’t see them as heroes standing up to “big gay” but still. I find myself frustrated with libertarians often. I think they don’t take into account the real world we reside in.

I don’t understand anyone who calls themselves a capitalist and won’t take legal tender.

As long as the transaction is legal and the money is good, I could care.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:37:47am

Bot turns texts into faxes, so you can fax your congress-critters.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:39:20am

re: #388 Birth Control Works

I don’t understand anyone who calls themselves a capitalist and won’t take legal tender.

As long as the transaction is legal and the money is good, I could care.

Well, the argument is that is if those businesses deny someone a service, then they will either flop or another competitor that is inclusive will take their place. But yeah I don’t get having a business and then saying that you’d exclude certain people. One of my zaniest dreams is to have my own bar some day and I wouldn’t deny someone a drink simply if they had a MAGA hat on. Money is money.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:39:59am

re: #366 Birth Control Works

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Did they ID & shame him yet?

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:40:09am

Congress Critters should also know how many businesses will be hurt if they de-fund Medicaid, Medicare etc.

Doctors and Hospitals and all the ancillary businesses depend on those government checks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:40:19am

re: #389 wheat-dogg

Bot turns texts into faxes, so you can fax your congress-critters.

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Technology is grand. I think Chelsea is considering a run for office. She’s been commenting a lot recently. Of course, I expect to drive both far left and right cray cray. I like her. She’s an intelligent woman.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:41:02am

re: #392 Birth Control Works

Congress Critters should also know how many businesses will be hurt if they de-fund Medicaid, Medicare etc.

Doctors and Hospitals and all the ancillary businesses dependon those government checks.

They don’t think about that. Just like they ignore that screwing over the environment negatively impacts tourism.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:41:34am

re: #379 Ming5000

Saw this over at Wonkette comments.

The internet does its thing to folks disrespecting Holocaust memorial.

Makes you think.

Weirdest link mess-up ever.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:41:57am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

They don’t think about that. Just like they ignore that screwing over the environment negatively impacts tourism.

Or how immigration bans affect Universities …

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:42:56am

re: #396 Birth Control Works

Or how immigration bans affect Universities …

Also impacts the IT industry too. Nativism is not only evil but it’s stupid too.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:44:12am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:45:29am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:48:50am

re: #398 Birth Control Works

Don is a con, to be sure, but now I think he’s more an old man who says whatever the hell is on his mind. There is no filter between his brain (such as it is) and his mouth and tweeting fingers. Clearly, someone has locked his cellphones up somewhere so he doesn’t blurt out some more bullshit to make the health care/wiretapping/Russian probe problems even worse.

It’s probably driving him batty. Wait for a CAT5 tweetstorm whenever he regains control of his cell.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:50:37am

Meanwhile, in France, another presidential candidate is under investigation.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:52:21am

re: #389 wheat-dogg

Bot turns texts into faxes, so you can fax your congress-critters.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:53:37am

re: #401 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, in France, another presidential candidate is under investigation.

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Anyone but Le Pen please.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:54:05am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Anyone but Le Pen please.

too late…another great nation going down the chute

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:55:24am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

too late…another great nation going down the chute

Makes Merkel’s survival all the more important.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:57:34am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:01:36am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:03:59am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:06:10am
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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:08:12am

re: #387 Stanley Sea

B&G is one of my most favorites things. Homemade tho, the stuff from restaurants is hit and miss.

I almost never eat breakfast away from home now that I am retired and no longer have a commute. The biscuits were killer but the gravy was just so so, the Creole spices with extra fresh ground pepper brought it up to just OK.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:09:10am

It’s tweeting, but I don’t think Donnie’s at the helm. Someone has added images, which he never does.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:10:03am

re: #402 FormerDirtDart

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Done via text.

They text you a copy of your 2 letters to the senators in .5 seconds.

Next they will contact you for your reps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:11:04am

re: #411 wheat-dogg

It’s tweeting, but I don’t think Donnie’s at the helm. Someone has added images, which he never does.

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via iPhone, so it’s staff.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:14:20am

IF YOU ARE OVER 40, DO NOT SHOVEL SNOW.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:14:32am

re: #410 jeffreyw

I almost never eat breakfast away from home now that I am retired and no longer have a commute. The biscuits were killer but the gravy was just so so, the Creole spices with extra fresh ground pepper brought it up to just OK.

I make a weird version with Jimmy Dean sage sausage, cooked then simmered in chicken broth. Add a roux. It is not the “white” style. But it is de-lish.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:15:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:16:12am

Media bias on full display! Newspapers now cashing in on T-shirts splashed with anti-Trump rhetoric (via @FoxFriendsFirst)

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:16:24am

re: #410 jeffreyw

I need some biscuit-making advice, please. My husband has fond memories of his Mississippi grandmother making fluffy biscuits every day of the week, and so I’d love any hints.

I have tried and tried to make biscuits, even using JP’s recipe on 2 occasions. I ALWAYS end up with hockey pucks, even when I don’t think I have overworked the dough. Is there a secret other than “don’t overwork the dough” that I am missing? It seems like it should be so simple…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:17:18am

re: #418 Flying Squirrel Girl

I need some biscuit-making advice, please. My husband has fond memories of his Mississippi grandmother making fluffy biscuits every day of the week, and so I’d love any hints.

I have tried and tried to make biscuits, even using JP’s recipe on 2 occasions. I ALWAYS end up with hockey pucks, even when I don’t think I have overworked the dough. Is there a secret other than “don’t overwork the dough” that I am missing? It seems like it should be so simple…

Real Southern biscuits are made with lard.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:17:47am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

You mean in a couple years I’ll get to beg off of shoveling? Sweet!

Unfortunately, that means if we get any March storms in 2019, my wife will be able to force me outside to deal with it, as she will have hit the big 4-0 before me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:18:51am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

IF YOU ARE OVER 40, DO NOT SHOVEL SNOW.

My dad was 52 years old, shoveled snow after the great Midwest Blizzard of 1967, died of a hear attack shortly afterward.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:18:57am

re: #294 lawhawk

And right now here in the Northern NJ metro area, it’s the big fat flakes that means we’re getting some serious accumulation. I just got back in from shoveling about 5-6 inches so far. I’m going to try and stay ahead of the snow, but this is going to get insane here especially as the winds crank up.

Stay safe folks.

We’re on the ‘wintry mix’ side of the storm from the look of it - we got what looks like 2 or 3 inches of snow and now we’re being pelted by sideways sleet. A friend up on the North Shore in Huntington informs me that he’s got about a foot of snow and there’s no sign of it slowing down.

All well and good for not having to clear the driveway, but the sleet does not bode well for travel later, after it all turns to ice.

Winds are behaving as advertised. Hoping the trees and power lines hold up.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:19:00am

re: #420 A wild WITHAK appeared!

You mean in a couple years I’ll get to beg off of shoveling? Sweet!

Unfortunately, that means if we get any March storms in 2019, my wife will be able to force me outside to deal with it, as she will have hit the big 4-0 before me.

D.C. actually setup a system to allow volunteers to shovel the snow for elderly people.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:19:35am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve used lard! I use it in flour tortillas too!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:20:10am

re: #416 A wild WITHAK appeared!

King has been reading white supremacist shit, because that kind of race war is what some of them swear will happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:20:37am

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

Media bias on full display! Newspapers now cashing in on T-shirts splashed with anti-Trump rhetoric

Ahem…anything not abashedly pro-Trump is blatantly anti-Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:21:07am

re: #418 Flying Squirrel Girl

I need some biscuit-making advice, please. My husband has fond memories of his Mississippi grandmother making fluffy biscuits every day of the week, and so I’d love any hints.

I have tried and tried to make biscuits, even using JP’s recipe on 2 occasions. I ALWAYS end up with hockey pucks, even when I don’t think I have overworked the dough. Is there a secret other than “don’t overwork the dough” that I am missing? It seems like it should be so simple…

Grandma Mitchell used lard, baking powder and buttermilk to make her fluffy biscuits!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:21:31am

re: #425 wheat-dogg

King has been reading white supremacist shit, because that kind of race war is what some of them swear will happen.

If not, they will work towards kick-starting it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:21:57am

re: #422 makeitstop

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:22:51am

re: #415 Stanley Sea

I make a weird version with Jimmy Dean sage sausage, cooked then simmered in chicken broth. Add a roux. It is not the “white” style. But it is de-lish.

Doesn’t sound weird to me! The gravy in the picture was from saved bacon grease and milk that was a touch sour. A few drops of Kitchen Bouquet to take the glare off and plenty of spice and it was tolerable.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:23:50am

re: #416 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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He really needs to get out of bumfuck rural Iowa and see the real fucking world. Jesus fucking Christ, just shut the fuck up you racist piece of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:24:12am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:24:24am

re: #425 wheat-dogg

King has been reading white supremacist shit, because that kind of race war is what some of them swear will happen.

The Turner Diaries? He does have a CSA flag in his office even though he’s from a Yankee state.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:25:02am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Guy who wanted to make it permissible to not employ people upset because he can’t be employed. Tough shit Pat.

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:28:27am

re: #418 Flying Squirrel Girl

I need some biscuit-making advice, please. My husband has fond memories of his Mississippi grandmother making fluffy biscuits every day of the week, and so I’d love any hints.

I have tried and tried to make biscuits, even using JP’s recipe on 2 occasions. I ALWAYS end up with hockey pucks, even when I don’t think I have overworked the dough. Is there a secret other than “don’t overwork the dough” that I am missing? It seems like it should be so simple…

I used grated frozen butter in that batch, and added a half teaspoon of baking soda to go with the tablespoon of baking powder. I fold the dough ten to fifteen times before rolling, pressing it out with my fingers between folds.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:28:51am

re: #433 HappyWarrior

The Turner Diaries? He does have a CSA flag in his office even though he’s from a Yankee state.

It’s quite likely. And there are plenty of people in the former Union states who just love them some Confederacy.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:29:46am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

Surviving the snow?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:30:17am

I mean not only is King’s statement bigoted shit. It’s stupid too. Lots of black, white, Asian, and Hispanics of all background. In fact my SiL’s paternal grandmother’s parents were from around the same part of Europe as my mom’s paternal grandparents but she’s considered Hispanic since the family went to Peru instead of America or Canada. Hispanics are a diverse group.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:30:58am

re: #437 Timothy Watson

Surviving the snow?

Yeah it’s not so bad. I pretty much got the day off though since my boss didn’t go in. May or may not be working tomorrow though.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:31:59am

re: #421 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My dad was 52 years old, shoveled snow after the great Midwest Blizzard of 1967, died of a hear attack shortly afterward.

Ok, not going to shovel. Imma just let it melt.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:34:19am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s not so bad. I pretty much got the day off though since my boss didn’t go in. May or may not be working tomorrow though.

I just got freezing rain and sleet, and the sheriff’s office was sending out text alerts telling people to stay off the roads, so I took a personal day.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:34:19am

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:34:36am

re: #418 Flying Squirrel Girl

I need some biscuit-making advice, please. My husband has fond memories of his Mississippi grandmother making fluffy biscuits every day of the week, and so I’d love any hints.

I have tried and tried to make biscuits, even using JP’s recipe on 2 occasions. I ALWAYS end up with hockey pucks, even when I don’t think I have overworked the dough. Is there a secret other than “don’t overwork the dough” that I am missing? It seems like it should be so simple…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:35:35am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

I mean not only is King’s statement bigoted shit. It’s stupid too. Lots of black, white, Asian, and Hispanics of all background. In fact my SiL’s paternal grandmother’s parents were from around the same part of Europe as my mom’s paternal grandparents but she’s considered Hispanic since the family went to Peru instead of America or Canada. Hispanics are a diverse group.

Central and South America are together kinda big, but King probably assumes they’re all one big country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:35:46am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:36:07am

Many wish we were a Confederation of States instead of a Federation.

The legal differences are remarkable.

I don’t think the outcome of a Confederation, tho, would be workable.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:36:55am

re: #441 Timothy Watson

I just got freezing rain and sleet, and the sheriff’s office was sending out text alerts telling people to stay off the roads, so I took a personal day.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:37:17am

re: #444 wheat-dogg

Central and South America are together kinda big, but King probably assumes they’re all one big country.

And that they all eat tacos there.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:38:21am

re: #446 Birth Control Works

Many wish we were a Confederation of States instead of a Federation.

The legal differences are remarkable.

I don’t think the outcome of a Confederation, tho, would be workable.

Didn’t we literally try that with the Articles of Confederation. The problem to me is some people in the states like King don’t want to acknowledge other people that look different than them. No amount of change in government structure would change that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:38:51am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:40:01am

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b.d.  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:40:14am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn! I wished I had listened to my parents and studied rifle coaching…

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:40:18am

re: #446 Birth Control Works

King just has the Confederate battle flag because he’s supporting the racist wingnuts around the country. He’s been milking the national media attention for some time, apparently positioning himself as the go-to guy for white nationalism.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:40:55am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Didn’t we literally try that with the Articles of Confederation. The problem to me is some people in the states like King don’t want to acknowledge other people that look different than them. No amount of change in government structure would change that.

yeah, at some point it changed —It’s morning and my ability to recall history is challenged. Before the Constitution was ratified —right?

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:41:28am

re: #446 Birth Control Works

Many wish we were a Confederation of States instead of a Federation.

The legal differences are remarkable.

I don’t think the outcome of a Confederation, tho, would be workable.

In the short period the CSA existed, it kept having to centralize more and more authority in order to conduct the war. Ultimately, if you’re going to call yourself a group, someone has to coordinate policy among the group.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:41:39am

Our problem really is we have two countries it seems like to me and it’s not even always geography that separates them though obviously some areas are better than others. We have one part that embraces changes. They see people of diverse backgrounds mingling and they see it as America at its best. And then there’s another part of America that is threatened by that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:42:20am

re: #454 Birth Control Works

yeah, at some point it changed —It’s morning and my ability to recall history is challenged. Before the Constitution was ratified —right?

After the Treaty that ended the Revolution. The Constitution itself was written to correct the problems the AOC created.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:42:40am

re: #455 Belafon

In the short period the CSA existed, it kept having to centralize more and more authority in order to conduct the war. Ultimately, if you’re going to call yourself a group, someone has to coordinate policy among the group.

Troops from Texas did not want to fight and die protecting Virginia. Who would have imagined!

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:42:56am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

The “Two Americas” theme may get stronger, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:43:58am

re: #455 Belafon

In the short period the CSA existed, it kept having to centralize more and more authority in order to conduct the war. Ultimately, if you’re going to call yourself a group, someone has to coordinate policy among the group.

Right, the CSA ironically for a ‘nation’ founded on the principle of states rights ended up quashing movements within it trying to secede. Not always, the reason why we have the state of West Virginia today is because of that. The other problems the CSA had were what you’re talking about. It was part of why the CSA failed thankfully. Another reason why I don’t get glamorizing it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:44:34am

re: #459 freetoken

The “Two Americas” theme may get stronger, I think.

John Edwards used it in an economic context but I think the divide is ,more social and cultural.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:45:39am

re: #429 wheat-dogg

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:45:51am

I mean there is economic divisions too but I think our starkest divisions are social and cultural.

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:48:46am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

too late…another great nation going down the chute

After the dismal results of polls in the UK and the US, I hesitate to rely on them for predictions, but in the crucial second round, Le Pen remains steadfastly in the 35-40% range, no matter what.

I also don’t get the sense of a “trumporwellian” ground swell — let’s face it, she’s “old news”, and also mired in her own legal investigations, so not that different from the apparatchiks running.

Center-right/independent candidate Macron seems to be the one drawing the disatisfied voters from both Right and Left.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:48:55am

re: #455 Belafon

In the short period the CSA existed, it kept having to centralize more and more authority in order to conduct the war. Ultimately, if you’re going to call yourself a group, someone has to coordinate policy among the group.

Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, abrogation of enlistment contracts, conscription, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:49:22am

I think that’s something that honestly Sanders doesn’t get and I think it is something Clinton and the Dem establishment thankfully do get.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:50:30am

re: #465 Timothy Watson

Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, abrogation of enlistment contracts, conscription, etc.

The things CSA apologists slam Lincoln for are exactly what Davis did and more.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:53:26am

re: #454 Birth Control Works

yeah, at some point it changed —It’s morning and my ability to recall history is challenged. Before the Constitution was ratified —right?

The Articles created the first American government. It was a disaster, because the states could not get along well enough to agree on anything, leaving the nascent nation vulnerable to outside attack. The Constitution of 1789 fixed most of those problems.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:53:50am

I feel like I witness it when I hear about classmates of my brother’s getting in trouble for saying bigoted crap and these kids really aren’t that much socio-economically different from my brother and I. Yet I’m going to work for an attorney whose roots are in one of the countries that Trump’s immigration ban does. In the Civil War era, there were certainly northerners sympathetic to slavery as well as southerners towards abolition but the geographic division was more pronounced. The mistake that people who take a class conflict view of things is that when differences exist within class i.e. race, ethnicity, religion, etc, those can be and often are exploited by the higher classes. Hence why a wealthy plutocrat like Trump can position himself as the WWC savior.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:54:59am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:55:13am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

Right, the CSA ironically for a ‘nation’ founded on the principle of states rights ended up quashing movements within it trying to secede. Not always, the reason why we have the state of West Virginia today is because of that. The other problems the CSA had were what you’re talking about. It was part of why the CSA failed thankfully. Another reason why I don’t get glamorizing it.

Interesting Virginia history fact: Until Virginia’s 1851 constitution, the Governor was appointed by the General Assembly. They only made the change because the western part of the state (including the future West Virginia) were angry over the state’s electoral districts which left them powerless in the General Assembly. So they made the Governor elected by popular vote in an attempt to placate the western part of the state. (Property requirements for voting were also removed.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:56:08am

re: #471 Timothy Watson

Interesting Virginia history fact: Until Virginia’s 1851 constitution, the Governor was appointed by the General Assembly. They only made the change because the western part of the state (including the future West Virginia) were angry over the state’s electoral districts which left them powerless in the General Assembly. So they made the Governor elected by popular vote in an attempt to placate the western part of the state. (Property requirements for voting were also removed too.)

I actually did not know that. Interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:58:31am

I am not saying I discount class when discussing societal problems. I just think socialists, Marxists, and those who take that pov ignore that there are other factors at play. Another example of this is the name discrimination that is talked about where people with more “foreign” sounding names are less likely to get calls back on job applications than those with more “American” sounding names.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:58:50am

ActBlue has some dedicated employees. They’re based out of Massachusetts but they’re still setting up accounts today.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:03:02am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:03:53am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart

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Just like Obama should pick someone like Merrick Garland to SCOTUS and then we won’t even give Merrick Garland a hearing. The GOP is full of bullshit like this.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:06:03am

I went to Wikipedia to refresh my memory of the Articles of Confederation. It’s been a while since I’ve studied American history,

Basically, the AoC made it nearly impossible to negotiate treaties with foreign powers, and to deal with international trade in general. Each state felt they could make their own agreements with Britain, for example, leading to chaos.

There was no chief executive and no national judiciary, too.

en.wikipedia.org

The CSA experienced the same problems, so they eventually ended up replicating the federal system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:07:14am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:08:28am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Says the guy who criticized a President for his choice of burger topping and who never criticizes another President. Face it Lumpy, you’re pathetic.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:09:29am

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:10:25am

re: #477 wheat-dogg

I went to Wikipedia to refresh my memory of the Articles of Confederation. It’s been a while since I’ve studied American history,

Basically, the AoC made it nearly impossible to negotiate treaties with foreign powers, and to deal with international trade in general. Each state felt they could make their own agreements with Britain, for example, leading to chaos.

There was no chief executive and no national judiciary, too.

en.wikipedia.org

The CSA experienced the same problems, so they eventually ended up replicating the federal system.

thanks for doing the research. Confederation makes each state it’s own feifdom —IIRC.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:10:45am

re: #443 FormerDirtDart

Yeah… That’s me. 8 min. in the convection and the gravy’s ready.
I are so screwed……..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:12:56am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:13:03am

I think that those who wish the 14th amendment to the Constitution repealed also wish a Confederation of States.

It’s all about Power grabbing.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:13:41am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

The things CSA apologists slam Lincoln for are exactly what Davis did and more.

Yep, the Union refused to abrogate the enlistment contracts signed by soldiers and were terrified that veterans were going to leave when their two-year contracts expired. Thankfully, the vast majority re-uped. Reenlistment bonuses helped, of course.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:13:46am

UC put up a second video on NAFTA from the recent presentation:

The Imperfections of NAFTA: Economic Dualities in North American Markets

Learned some stuff about Mexico I didn’t know.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:14:09am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Troops from Texas did not want to fight and die protecting Virginia. Who would have imagined!

And Georgia was sitting on warehouses full of weapons and military equipment that it did not want to share with soldiers from other states…whoda thunk it?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:14:09am

re: #481 Birth Control Works

thanks for doing the research. Confederation makes each state it’s own feifdom —IIRC.

It’s the basis of the “state’s rights” nonsense now, as if 50 states + DC + Commonwealth and territories could operate independently while still maintaining a cohesive nation. We can barely operate as one unit now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:14:31am

re: #481 Birth Control Works

thanks for doing the research. Confederation makes each state it’s own feifdom —IIRC.

Right, with its own currency and armies. It would be a mistake to do that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:15:37am

re: #485 Timothy Watson

Yep, the Union refused to abrogate the enlistment contracts signed by soldiers and were terrified that veterans were going to leave when their two-year contracts expired. Thankfully, the vast majority re-uped. Reenlistment bonus helped, of course.

My GG Grandfather’s unit disbanded right before Gettysburg. Not sure what he did after that but I assume he went home.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:16:18am

re: #488 wheat-dogg

It’s the basis of the “state’s rights” nonsense now, as if 50 states + DC + Commonwealth and territories could operate independently while still maintaining a cohesive nation. We can barely operate as one unit now.

It’s so stupid since our states are all interconnected in some way.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:17:01am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

Right, with its own currency and armies. It would be a mistake to do that.

Fortunately, enough people realized there was something very wrong, and it had to be fixed. So, they entrusted their representatives to do something about it, and they did!

I doubt it would happen now.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:18:28am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

It’s so stupid since our states are all interconnected in some way.

Well, they only complain when it’s some federal law or regulation they don’t like. Using the interstate highway system and the USPS is just all OK.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:18:51am

re: #492 wheat-dogg

Fortunately, enough people realized there was something very wrong, and it had to be fixed. So, they entrusted their representatives to do something about it, and they did!

I doubt it would happen now.

I wonder how many self proclaimed right wing “Constitutional experts” know that the document was written to strengthen the federal government.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:19:11am

re: #493 wheat-dogg

Well, they only complain when it’s some federal law or regulation they don’t like. Using the interstate highway system and the USPS is just all OK.

or the federal government to punish marijuana users.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:20:20am

re: #348 Birth Control Works

Cuz you know… Auschwitz had cancer screenings and pre/post-natal care for it’s female prisoners!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:21:18am

re: #441 Timothy Watson

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:22:21am

OK, I left NYC when I enlisted in ‘82.
Sure, it’s Staten Island. But, what the hell is going on????

Facebook Post

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:23:20am

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:23:34am

re: #494 HappyWarrior

I wonder how many self proclaimed right wing “Constitutional experts” know that the document was written to strengthen the federal government.

They love the Constitution but constantly make arguments that sound like they came from the Anti-Federalist Papers.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:23:46am

re: #498 FormerDirtDart

It’s Staten Island, Jake.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:24:20am

re: #498 FormerDirtDart

My Little Pony?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:24:24am

re: #500 Timothy Watson

They loved the Constitution but constantly make arguments that sound like they came from the Anti-Federalist Papers.

Yep.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:25:04am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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His own logo is accidentally included.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:26:45am

re: #498 FormerDirtDart

OK, I left NYC when I enlisted in ‘82.
Sure, it’s Staten Island. But, what the hell is going on????

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:26:54am

re: #504 Stanley Sea

Lets play the Sesame Street game:

One of these is not like the others
One of these things is an asshole

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:27:11am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

or the federal government to punish marijuana users.

gun ownership too!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:28:05am

OK. Sleep time here. Maintain course and bearing, people!

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:28:09am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

A microbiologist visited the ISS to see what else lives there besides human beans, and to offer NASA some advice on how to keep the crews healthy.

npr.org

I heard that report on NPR this morning coming into work. I just kept picturing Alien roaming the air vents of the ISS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:29:49am

[Rep. Joe] Barton explained that he voted against the bill because he believes violence against women is a “state issue, not a federal issue.”

The answer earned the congressman boos from the audience.

“Violence against women, that’s a national issue!” one member of the audience shouted. “That’s an issue that impacts everyone everywhere, not only in this country, but everywhere!”

“You, sir, shut up,” Barton snapped, pointing his finger at that man.

The command, however, had the opposite effect on the audience.

“You don’t tell anybody to shut up!” the constituent shouted back. “You work for us!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:31:03am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

“You, sir, shut up,” Barton snapped, pointing his finger at that man.

The command, however, had the opposite effect on the audience.

“You don’t tell anybody to shut up!” the constituent shouted back. “You work for us!”

I hope this attitude starts to become more widespread…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:31:56am

Jersey shore

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:33:49am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:34:41am

Pygmy Ponies…. (Over by the Dental-Floss Bush…)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:35:06am

re: #348 Birth Control Works

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No, but too many times local police lockups have resembled one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:35:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:36:16am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:40:19am

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK

bbl all

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:40:42am
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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:41:20am

Erdogan supporters are now resorting to highlighting the Dutch role in allowing the Srebrenica massacre to occur…as a tool to beat the Dutch with.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:44:02am

re: #520 electrotek

Erdogan supporters are now resorting to highlighting the Dutch role in allowing the Srebrenica massacre to occur…as a tool to beat the Dutch with.

They are counting on the European media responding to him as if he were not a deranged lunatic who has just completed a coup in his own country and ousted teachers, professors, journalists and public servants who failed to display sufficient loyalty to him and his party.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:45:19am

re: #521 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are counting on the European media responding to him as if he were not a deranged lunatic who has just completed a coup in his own country and ousted teachers, professors, journalists and public servants who failed to display sufficient loyalty to him and his party.

Don’t forget that Erdogan is also helping the populists in Europe gain further ground and to stoke the flames of Islamophobia even further.

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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:47:31am

Good article at philly.com
Can Customs and Border Officials Search Your Phone? These Are Your RightsLink

Bottom line, CPB can do pretty much whatever they want at the border.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:48:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:48:53am

re: #522 electrotek

Don’t forget that Erdogan is also helping the populists in Europe gain further ground and to stoke the flames of Islamophobia even further.

He knows that he is giving LePen and Geert Wilders a bump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:53:31am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:54:28am

re: #522 electrotek

Don’t forget that Erdogan is also helping the populists in Europe gain further ground and to stoke the flames of Islamophobia even further.

And has moved closer to Putin, ironically. Also aims to use refugees “as a weapon” as someone posted above by threatening to allow them to go to Greece. He’s really fucking things up.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:55:28am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:56:16am

re: #528 Dr. Matt

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CLIMATE IS NOT WEATHER YOU FUCKING FUCKS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:56:34am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:58:12am

re: #528 Dr. Matt

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Fucking moron doesn’t understand the effect freezing rain/ice has on emergency response.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:59:03am

re: #527 Barefoot Grin

And has moved closer to Putin, ironically. Also aims to use refugees “as a weapon” as someone posted above by threatening to allow them to go to Greece. He’s really fucking things up.

Exactly. I think it’s fucking laughable how Erdogan and his supporters have no problem using the Bosnian Genocide as a political weapon of sort when they have no shame in slaughtering Kurds in the southeastern part of the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:59:21am

re: #531 Timothy Watson

Fucking moron doesn’t understand the effect freezing rain/ice has on emergency response.

They are government workers, in other words, all a bunch of useless parasites.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:05:41am

Comedy Gold

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:07:10am

I’d take a foot of powder snow over the crap that’s falling now. It’s ice/sleet/heavy dense snow. Snowblowers struggle with it. People die shoveling it. People die trying to drive in it.

Yeah, it’s fucking dangerous out there Matt Drudge. And if it the storm track were 50 miles to East, we’d have 2 feet of snow and no changeover - which is just as dangerous and tough to dig out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:07:40am

The upshot of any investigation into Trump and Putin will simply be that lying about Russia is not perjury just like getting a blowjob from a bimbo is not cheating on your wife.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:07:56am

re: #534 Dave In Austin

Comedy Gold

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Really makes you wonder how much money Hannity has invested in Russia, or if there’s a Lumpy Pisstape

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:09:11am

Dumbfuckery in my timeline:

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:10:22am

The party of personal responsibility doesn’t get that people paid taxes in to Medicare and Medicaid, and GOP is intent on robbing those funds to give bigger tax breaks to the rich. That’s not personal responsibility. It’s thievery.

Or just a day ending in Y for the GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:11:14am

re: #539 lawhawk

The party of personal responsibility doesn’t get that people paid taxes in to Medicare and Medicaid, and GOP is intent on robbing those funds to give bigger tax breaks to the rich. That’s not personal responsibility. It’s thievery.

Or just a day ending in Y for the GOP.

They have convinced enough of us us that Taxation is Theft and that they are Robin Hood.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:11:29am

re: #537 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Lumpy and DIJ are having a grudgefest. It’s been going on for months.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:11:54am

My faith in the world right now: white-out conditions when I look out the window, but I still check wunderground just to be sure.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:17:12am

re: #541 Dave In Austin

Sure, but DIJ’s* snark aside, Hannity’s water-carrying for Putin is just absurd.

*Took me awhile but I figured out what the “DI” is here

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KingKenrod  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:18:00am

Sad!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:19:49am

re: #544 KingKenrod

That’s a huge swing! I wonder if we’ll see sub-35 with CBO report factored in.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:21:51am

re: #545 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Trump will most likely set a new record for unpopularity making W look like one of the greatest presidents of all time.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:22:37am

re: #539 lawhawk

The party of personal responsibility doesn’t get that people paid taxes in to Medicare and Medicaid, and GOP is intent on robbing those funds to give bigger tax breaks to the rich. That’s not personal responsibility. It’s thievery.

Or just a day ending in Y for the GOP.

The same people who went bugfuck insane over “OBAMACARE STEALING FROM MEDICARE!!!!” are now arguing that Medicare is some sort of handout that needs to be stopped so elderly Americans can yank themselves up by their bootstraps. Hold on, let me get my surprised face on…

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:24:27am

re: #545 A wild WITHAK appeared!

That’s a huge swing! I wonder if we’ll see sub-35 with CBO report factored in.

Yes, the swings for this month are crazy. I have no idea what could have caused him to spike to 45% approval a few days ago.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:25:35am

re: #548 Interesting Times

Yes, the swings for this month are crazy. I have no idea what could have caused him to spike to 45% approval a few days ago.

The “pivot” speech that wasn’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:25:46am

re: #548 Interesting Times

Yes, the swings for this month are crazy. I have no idea what could have caused him to spike to 45% approval a few days ago.

He was seeming Presidential for a while…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:27:12am

re: #550 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was seeming Presidential for a while…

Nah.

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ipsos  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:27:29am

re: #550 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was seeming Presidential for a while…

We follow the firehose of daily insanity moment by moment. Imagine how overwhelming it must be to the average American who’s not glued to the screen every minute. At some point, it’s easier to turn away and say, “yeah, he’s probably OK, I guess.” At least for a while.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:31:12am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I want to apologize to Sean Hannity.

I never thought someone I saw as a complete asshole could in fact be even more of an asshole with Trump in the White House.

I know longer believe Sean has reached peak asshole. He is setting new records.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:32:04am

re: #553 ObserverArt

I want to apologize to Sean Hannity.

I never thought someone I saw as a complete asshole could in fact be even more of an asshole with Trump in the White House.

I know longer believe Sean has reached peak asshole. He is setting new records.

I really would love for someone to ask him ohw Trump’s balls taste?

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:35:58am

re: #552 ipsos

We follow the firehose of daily insanity moment by moment. Imagine how overwhelming it must be to the average American who’s not glued to the screen every minute. At some point, it’s easier to turn away and say, “yeah, he’s probably OK, I guess.” At least for a while.

That’s so close to the ‘Pretty OK, really’ that I gave as an answer to my manager’s inquiry after a week with a new hire, whom I fired a week later.

I keep thinking about the president like, ‘At least he isn’t Erdogan’, but Erdogan has gotten worse with time, as will Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:36:27am
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:38:23am

Too bad Elon can’t run for President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:39:00am
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:41:05am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I sure hope people are getting a real feel of the outright arrogance and disregard for ordinary working Americans the Republican party is currently displaying.

They are all really letting their asses show and it seems like they think they can get away with it under the cover of Trump.

This country has a problem It can be solved by booting Republicans out of their offices.

It would be good for them too. They would have to go back into the working world and maybe learn something about real people in real life situations.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:41:10am

re: #548 Interesting Times

Yes, the swings for this month are crazy. I have no idea what could have caused him to spike to 45% approval a few days ago.

Most likely residual effect from last Tuesday’s speech in which many pundits and media types desperately tried to cast him as “presidental.”

Which of course was fleeting and totally erased because those were meaningless words read through a TelePrompTer. Then Ayn Rand Paul Ryan came along and crapped the bed.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:41:58am

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Save a spider day”? Oh HELL NO!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:42:13am

Cute interview with the fam

563
Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:42:46am

re: #559 ObserverArt

I doubt it, considering that the most popular morning tv show is Fox and Friends. People who live on propaganda 24/7 are never going to figure it out.

564
Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:42:46am

Wow.

565
Moebym  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:43:09am

The day’s barely even started for me, and I already want it to end.

@*$%ing paperwork. @*$%ing technology.

And before I forget, @*$%ing Republicans…but then again, I could say that every single day.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:44:14am

re: #564 Myron Falwell

Wow.

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That…uhm…that’s a bit on the nose, New Yorker. Bravo.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:44:58am

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man Spider,
Man Spider,
does whatever a man can.
Mows the lawn, rakes the leaves,
catches flies just like thieves…

568
Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:45:44am

re: #563 Skip Intro

I doubt it, considering that the most popular morning tv show is Fox and Friends. People who live on propaganda 24/7 are never going to figure it out.

As we’ve seen in recent years, the propaganda outfits like Fox will turn on those congresscum (for being “RINOs” or whatever the fuck that means) and primary them for worse scum.

Oh hi, Eric Cantor.

570
HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:46:40am

re: #568 Myron Falwell

As we’ve seen in recent years, the propaganda outfits will turn on those congresscum (for being “RINOs” or whatever the fuck that means) and primary them for worse scum.

Oh hi, Eric Cantor.

That’s the thing. There’s always someone worse in the wings waiting. Yeah Michele Bachmann is gone but there’s more people like her in office than ever.

571
Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:46:45am

re: #562 Stanley Sea

Cute interview with the fam

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You must click the WSJ article.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:48:03am

THIS THREAD.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:49:05am

re: #572 The Vicious Babushka

THIS THREAD.

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Math nerds.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:49:38am

In honor of pi day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:49:41am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:50:10am

re: #575 The Vicious Babushka

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My heart aches. //

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:50:13am

I was just discussing a customer’s old bike with him on the phone, and he mentioned that he felt guilty not working on it himself. I said, ‘For a little extra, I can alleviate your guilt and give it back to you in pieces.’ He laughed and said, ‘Oh good! A bike mechanic with a sense of humor!’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:52:23am
579
Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:12:39am

re: #577 wrenchwench

I was just discussing a customer’s old bike with him on the phone, and he mentioned that he felt guilty not working on it himself. I said, ‘For a little extra, I can alleviate your guilt and give it back to you in pieces.’ He laughed and said, ‘Oh good! A bike mechanic with a sense of humor!’

I built up both my Ritchey and my Battaglin, but I did have my LBS do the headset and bottom bracket. I mean, who the hell has a headset press and the right bottom bracket wrenches for Phil Wood BBs? Not me, that’s for sure!

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:09am

re: #579 Blind Frog Belly White

I built up both my Ritchey and my Battaglin, but I did have my LBS do the headset and bottom bracket. I mean, who the hell has a headset press and the right bottom bracket wrenches for Phil Wood BBs? Not me, that’s for sure!

I’m the only one in town with the Phil Wood BB tool and the Schwinn kickstand tool (may be the only one in the state with the kickstand tool).

581
Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:38:26am

re: #149 austin_blue

Aren’t nukes fun? Even better when you have a B-1B with over a dozen ALCM’s…

582
Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:42:40am

re: #580 wrenchwench

I’m the only one in town with the Phil Wood BB tool and the Schwinn kickstand tool (may be the only one in the state with the kickstand tool).

I let the LBS order the BB and HS for both, since I got the frame and the kit from Ebay vendors. Can’t expect them to stay in business if you never throw business at them!

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:00:05pm

re: #498 FormerDirtDart

OK, I left NYC when I enlisted in ‘82.
Sure, it’s Staten Island. But, what the hell is going on????

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Shoot Low, Boys—They’re Ridin’ Shetland Ponies.
- Lewis Grizzard


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