The Trump Administration Is Preparing to Launch an All-Out Legal Attack on Federal Agencies

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White House counsel Don McGahn is preparing an all-out attack on federal agencies

Yes, it can still get worse, folks. Today we have news from TIME’s Zeke Miller that the Trump Horror is assembling a high-powered legal team that will launch an all-out attack on the regulatory powers of federal agencies.

One White House aide described the group of lawyers hired by McGahn as a conservative answer to “Nader’s Raiders,” a small group of liberal activists organized by Ralph Nader in the 1960s and 1970s, who successfully fought for greater federal regulation of consumer goods like automobiles and food.

McGahn said he had specifically chosen his staff because of their expertise in working inside federal law. “They understand the regulatory agencies, several are appellate lawyers who have spent their careers fighting regulatory and government overreach, or worked on Capitol Hill conducting oversight,” McGahn said in an interview with TIME. “A number of people in the office actually have sued the government over regulatory over reach, and have won.”

The group, which reports to McGahn, includes Greg Katsas, a deputy White House counsel, who ran the Department of Justice’s Civil Division during the Bush administration and challenged the Affordable Care Act at the Supreme Court while in private practice. Stacy Cline Amin, an associate counsel, was the Chief Counsel to the U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. Associate Counsel John Bash has argued 10 cases before the Supreme Court, clerked for Justice Antonin Scalia and D.C. Circuit Judge Brett Kavanaugh, a hero of conservatives in the fight against the regulatory system.

Stephen Bannon was recently quoted saying his goal was to “deconstruct” the federal government, and that effort is now well under way. They’re laying the groundwork for a complete takeover of the US by rapacious corporations unconcerned with climate change, the environment, or workers’ rights — just to name three important areas that are on the chopping block.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:51:37am

Good grief.

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Moebym  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:54:10am

I think I may have underestimated just how fucked we’re going to be.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:56:33am

Any time an article includes the phrase “as a conservative answer to”… it’s a safe bet you can end it right there, as any subsequent text would be superfluous.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:58:00am

re: #3 Myron Falwell

Any time an article includes the phrase “as a conservative answer to”… it’s a safe bet you can end it right there, as any subsequent text would be superfluous.

See wikipedia, the Bible, the Daily Show.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:59:29am

I just googled “winter storm Stella” and the first hit that filled my browser was from Breitbart. How the fuck does that happen?

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:59:48am

Might be time to donate to ACLU again. They’re gonna be busy.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:00:27am

By the way, if any natural disaster or global pandemic strikes this country, if you thought we were already fucked…

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:00:42am

The same idiots who think a 66 page bill can easily handle national health care reform also think that there’s too much regulation.

It’s much more than page size and goes to content of the legislation, and what agencies must do in order to administer the law as written by Congress.

Take the IRS for instance. Look at 501(c). Deals with nonprofit entities, but how do you figure out what it means and how to make sure that only entities entitled to benefit from that status are approved? There’s regulations for that.

Across the federal government, agencies are given latitude to administer the law as written, and those regulations go to how an agency works, policies, procedures, audits, etc., including how persons (taxpayers, etc.) can get satisfaction - like say when an audit occurs or the Interior Dept fines someone for trespass or failing to pay grazing rights, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:01:21am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:02:55am

On the bright side, I think the CBO report was the final nail in the coffin of Trumpcare. Even if they can get it passed in the House over Freedom Caucus opposition, there are too many Senators who don’t want to face voters in 2018 or 2020 after taking away insurance from tens of millions of them, or who think Trumpcare is “Obamacare lite” like Paul and Cruz.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:03:27am

Instead the GOP rank-and-file will dispose of Ayn Rand Paul Ryan and replace him with this fucker in the name of “purity.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:04:53am

re: #11 Myron Falwell

Instead the GOP rank-and-file will dispose of Ayn Rand Paul Ryan and replace him with this fucker in the name of “purity.”

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Good move by Pelosi.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:06:09am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Considering Trump is POTUS, Scalise is in the leadership, and King is pushing this white supremacist crap, don’t expect the GOP to act here.

They’ve gone white supremacist/full metal bigot for a long time now.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:06:19am

I’m to the point where I see no further purpose to discuss Trump’s disasters on my FB any more. Just no purpose if I don’t feel it can change shit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:07:05am

re: #13 lawhawk

Considering Trump is POTUS, Scalise is in the leadership, and King is pushing this white supremacist crap, don’t expect the GOP to act here.

They’ve gone white supremacist/full metal bigot for a long time now.

I don’t either. Great point about Scalise too.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:12:11am

re: #13 lawhawk

Considering Trump is POTUS, Scalise is in the leadership, and King is pushing this white supremacist crap, don’t expect the GOP to act here.

They’ve gone white supremacist/full metal bigot for a long time now.

Yup. His behavior only constitutes a résumé enhancement.

And again, you and I would think, “oh hell, King couldn’t be elevated to speaker!” but these MAGAots are incapable of any rational thought. It is totally plausible and possible.

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:12:15am

Back in the USSA. Should be able to get home tonight with no problem. Was nice being at sea and away from politics for a week. They had TV by satellite but I managed to avoid it for the most part. All the Canadians I talked to were amazed at how stupid Americans have become. I stood up for the sane among us, but it was a pretty hard sell.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:12:44am

Wut? “Neoliberal?” Trump is now supposed to be “neoliberal?”

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:13:26am

So we’ve got the push for “tax reform,” a push for “rebuilding the military,” and now a push for deregulation.

Or, for those taking notes at home, the same agenda that the GOP has been pursuing since the days of St. Ron, patron saint of the New Gilded Age.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:13:31am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Wut? “Neoliberal?” Trump is now supposed to be “neoliberal?”

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I really wish people would stop using stupid buzzwords.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:16:47am

Wingnut welfare has gone global, this time in Germany

He was reconsidering whether Gringo’s would remain financially viable when a counter movement abruptly began. As news spread of his falling business, right-wing populist Germans started spreading the word: Eat at Gringo’s.

Some of the newcomers lived in and around Essen, but others drove for hours to show their support. By February, Smith’s burger business was booming again.

“I went to dinner there twice, and then to lunch, and asked all my friends to come out and support Nicholas,” said Andreas Hellmann, 28, a German conservative activist. He recently moved to Washington for a job with a nonprofit, but he visited Gringo’s during a return trip home earlier this month. One of his friends drove 22 miles from Düsseldorf to join him.

“In the U.S., I see the division. There is all this hatred and people can’t argue in a decent way anymore,” Hellmann said. “I feel the same thing is happening in Germany now.”

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:17:22am

THIS needs to be reposted and repeated on a daily basis for the next 4 years.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:18:38am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

I really wish people would stop using stupid buzzwords.

Meanwhile, some liberals think the whole problem is a “buzzword gap”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:18:53am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

I really wish people would stop using stupid buzzwords.

What if I told you that overusing ‘neoliberal’ robs it of its meaning?

Whoa! Dude!
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:19:11am

re: #22 Dr. Matt

THIS needs to be reposted and repeated on a daily basis for the next 4 years.

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Comey *cough*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:20:23am

re: #23 Timothy Watson

Meanwhile, some liberals think the whole problem is a “buzzword gap”.

“Mr. President! We cannot allow a Buzzword Gap!”

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:20:43am

re: #11 Myron Falwell

Instead the GOP rank-and-file will dispose of Ayn Rand Paul Ryan and replace him with this fucker in the name of “purity.”

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Steve King tripled down on his statements:

During a radio interview with Iowa’s 1040 WHO Monday, King spoke about comments made by Univision host Jorge Ramos on multiculturalism in the U.S.

“Jorge Ramos’ stock in trade is identifying and trying to drive wedges between race,” King said. “Race and ethnicity, I should say to be more correct.”

“When you start accentuating the differences, then you start ending up with people that are at each other’s throats,” King added. “And he’s adding up Hispanics and blacks into what he predicts will be in greater number than whites in America. I will predict that Hispanics and the blacks will be fighting each other before that happens.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:20:46am

re: #21 electrotek

Wingnut welfare has gone global, this time in Germany

I’m tired of Trump supporters complaining when they get called out. You choose to support him. It’s only fair that you get backlash. Backlash to his business is mild compared to the minority groups that now have dealt with far worse since Trump’s election.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:10am

Trump friend and CEO of Newsmax, Christopher Ruddy, has published an op-ed urging Trump to keep his promise of universal coverage and expand Medicaid. This would be a very smart move on Trump’s part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:10am

re: #2 Moebym

I think I may have underestimated just how fucked we’re going to be.

I never did, but do not feel any better for it.

People are going to die over this stuff…

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:18am

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

“Mr. President! We cannot allow a Buzzword Gap!”

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Regret but one upding, etc!

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Citizen K  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:18am

There really is no way out of this, is there? We’re irreparably fucked for good, because we voted in arsonists who ran precisely on burning down the house, and preferred him to the woman actually promoting fire safety.

And now it’s all going to fucking burn, and the country will fucking love it when it comes down to brass tacks because it doesnt come from a Dem. They’ll suffer but they’ll vote the same goddamn motherfuckers in because.. If there’s a fucking election left to have at this rate, rather than a fully corporatized America, sold to the highest bidder.

We’re fucked, and I don’t know what to fucking do anymore.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:20am

Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:38am

re: #23 Timothy Watson

Meanwhile, some liberals think the whole problem is a “buzzword gap”.

I mean we do need to communicate better, that much I agree with but I swear “neo-liberal” is just lefty speak for left of center politicians aren’t pure enough for me.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:21:47am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

Comey *cough*

Comey was just the final straw. His ratfucking wouldn’t have been as successful if the media hadn’t spent the time up til and even after she was effectively absolved of any wrongdoing going “THIS IS VERY BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD IF YOU SUPPORT HER!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:22:19am

re: #27 Anymouse

Steve King tripled down on his statements:

huffingtonpost.com

Yeah I saw that earlier. You have no idea how much that infuriates me as someone with a Hispanic niece who has an African-American godfather.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:23:45am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

Ryan doesn’t live in the real world. He just lives in the Randian bubble he created for himself when he decided to live his life by Ayn Rand’s crappy books.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:32am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

The CBO reported that the individual market is stable, because the subsidies and the mandate keep enough young healthy people in the market to prevent death spirals. And yes, one choice is better than zero choices. There is absolutely no doubt that the status quo with Obamacare is better than the status quo before it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:35am

re: #29 Big Beautiful Door

Trump friend and CEO of Newsmax, Christopher Ruddy, has published an op-ed urging Trump to keep his promise of universal coverage and expand Medicaid. This would be a very smart move on Trump’s part.

He is trying to head off a very unpleasant long-term disaster for the GOP.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:36am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

Pining for the days when insurance companies could spin off dozens of “feel good” insurance plans that cost virtually nothing because they covered virtually nothing, but made you feel good about having it because you thought you were protected. Until you had that heart attack or developed cancer and found out that even the most basic treatments weren’t covered.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:48am

re: #32 Citizen K

There really is no way out of this, is there? We’re irreparably fucked for good, because we voted in arsonists who ran precisely on burning down the house, and preferred him to the woman actually promoting fire safety.

And now it’s all going to fucking burn, and the country will fucking love it when it comes down to brass tacks because it doesnt come from a Dem. They’ll suffer but they’ll vote the same goddamn motherfuckers in because.. If there’s a fucking election left to have at this rate, rather than a fully corporatized America, sold to the highest bidder.

We’re fucked, and I don’t know what to fucking do anymore.

I just don’t get so many of our fellow Americans. I really don’t.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:24:57am

re: #33 lawhawk

Most employers only give employees one insurance choice, therefore most employer health plans are about to collapse - that’s what Ryan is implying.

Better get on that single payer model, Ryan, since it’s obvious insurance is a failure as a business model.

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Citizen K  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:25:16am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Yeah I saw that earlier. You have no idea how much that infuriates me as someone with a Hispanic niece who has an African-American godfather.

And he’s probably not going to pay any actual consequences. Because the elephant in the room is that this is exactly what most of America actually fucking wants. At least the ‘America’ that matters and has all the fucking power now. There’s only a couple steps left away from full throated demands for purging all the ‘fake Americans’ with non-homogneous skin and ‘culture’ at this rate, because WE HAVE NO FUCKING POWER.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:25:52am

re: #31 Timothy Watson

Regret but one upding, etc!

Again, I recommend that Charles institute a “mega-upding” button, with like 10 ups that you can use only once a week or once a month or so, just for cases like this one.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:26:29am

Oh, and Paul, my own workplace only offers one insurance plan. And guess what: It’s virtually unaffordable to anybody who’s not management.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:26:44am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:26:50am
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:26:51am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:26:51am

re: #43 Citizen K

And he’s probably not going to pay any actual consequences. Because the elephant in the room is that this is exactly what most of America actually fucking wants. At least the ‘America’ that matters and has all the fucking power now. There’s only a couple steps left away from full throated demands for purging all the ‘fake Americans’ with non-homogneous skin and ‘culture’ at this rate, because WE HAVE NO FUCKING POWER.

As I said earlier, there’s two Americas. One that embraces the changes we’ve had as a country and another that wants exactly what you’re talking about. King isn’t going to worry about re-election. He’s been talking like the KKK’s man in Congress for years now. The fact of the matter is a lot of people in this country want to have bigots like King representign them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:27:03am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

They keep repeating this SELL INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES!!!!! and FREE MARKIT MAKES COMPETITIONS & LOWER PRICES!1!!!!!!! bullshit like it’s some kind of fucked up gospel but it’s just fucked up bullshit.

“Free Market” leads to cartels and monopolies and this whole “state lines” bullshit is a red herring that the carriers do not even want.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:27:50am

re: #40 Targetpractice

Pining for the days when insurance companies could spin off dozens of “feel good” insurance plans that cost virtually nothing because they covered virtually nothing, but made you feel good about having it because you thought you were protected. Until you had that heart attack or developed cancer and found out that even the most basic treatments weren’t covered.

I had $50-dollar-a-month policy with a $5,000 deductible that was basically just bankruptcy insurance in case I got hit by a truck or something…but that was back when I was young and strapping and had not even seen the inside of a doctor’s office for years…

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:28:25am

re: #43 Citizen K

And he’s probably not going to pay any actual consequences. Because the elephant in the room is that this is exactly what most of America actually fucking wants. At least the ‘America’ that matters and has all the fucking power now. There’s only a couple steps left away from full throated demands for purging all the ‘fake Americans’ with non-homogneous skin and ‘culture’ at this rate, because WE HAVE NO FUCKING POWER.

Twenty years of propaganda (FOX News, Right Wing and Christian hate radio) plus every GOP politician since Reagan saying you can’t trust the government will have an effect - propaganda is a helluva drug, especially when you repeat it over a whole generation.

Nixon wanted a GOP TV, but the laws and regulations at the time didn’t allow it. So, the GOP worked to overturn those laws and regulations and convince people the government itself was untrustworthy. They hit the jackpot with Reagan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:29:13am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:29:28am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is trying to head off a very unpleasant long-term disaster for the GOP.

The one silver lining to the possibility of Trumpcare passing is that it would likely result in a Democratic wave in 2018. But I don’t want 20k people to have to die, so I’d prefer that Trumpcare just fail to pass like I expect.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:30:18am

There’s a weird dynamic wingnuts have with the government. They preport to hate the government and claim they need arsenals to protect themselves against said government but they also want the government to get rid of those they deem undesirables. There definitely is fascism in American conservative thought that I honestly did not see before Trump’s rise. I mean I’ve never thought much of American conservatism in general but Trump awoke something really ugly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:30:51am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:30:58am

re: #54 Big Beautiful Door

The one silver lining to the possibility of Trumpcare passing is that it would likely result in a Democratic wave in 2018. But I don’t want 20k people to have to die, so I’d prefer that Trumpcare just fail to pass like I expect.

That’s the difference between the two sides right there. You said it in a nutshell.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:31:13am
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:31:16am

re: #48 Kragar

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I’m old enough to remember when Hillary was getting it from both sides for saying she’d send no troops to Syria, with wingnuts accusing her of not taking ISIS “seriously,” while Bros called her a liar because “IRAQ!!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:31:55am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And once again, it’s worthy to note SA isn’t part of his Muslim ban even though SA has contributed many terrorists.*
* Not supporting a SA ban by any means, merely pointing out how hypocritical Trump’s ban is.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:32:28am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Because it’s totally normal to include your son in law and bigoted adviser but not your SOS and SOD in discussions with a foreign power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:32:37am
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Mike Lamb  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:32:59am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

And when the content of the policies is mandated (at least in part) by statute, the fact that there is only one option is even less meaningful.

But none of this matters when you have a GOP that choice, in and of itself, is a virtue. Having two shitty options is a better outcome than having one good option.

To add: Ryan’s argument is almost like saying there’s only 1 utility company per county. Oh noes!

Finally, the slimy “Obamacare is collapsing” line aggravates me when the story is that the areas that have issues are those where the GOP deliberately sabotaged ACA’s efficacy. Just a continuation of the age old GOP play book:

1. Gov’t is the problem.
2. Enact bills/regs to prevent effective governing.
3. See, gov’t is the problem.

Rinse, repeat.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:01am

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when Hillary was getting it from both sides for saying she’d send no troops to Syria, with wingnuts accusing her of not taking ISIS “seriously,” while Bros called her a liar because “IRAQ!!!!”

Both the far left and far right treated her terribly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:06am
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:18am

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Journalists have been entertaining the GOP’s insanity about Obamacare from virtually the moment it was first proposed. It shouldn’t come as a shock that the people who pushed “death panels” yesterday and now pushing “death spiral” today.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:22am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How dare they tell the truth about our bill!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:26am

re: #50 The Vicious Babushka

The ACA allows insurance to be sold across state lines if the policies are comparable to those offered in state. So, someone in NJ could conceivably could put together an insurance plan for NY that NY could approve if they’re comparable.

Problem is, no one wants it. Not the insurers, who’d have to create a network in-state, which is costly, and therefore isn’t worth the effort. And if there’s no in-network in state, then the costs are that much higher because out of network always is.

It’s a scam the GOP is pulling, same way they think HSAs will be the silver bullet here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:33am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

And once again, it’s worthy to note SA isn’t part of his Muslim ban even though SA has contributed many terrorists.*
* Not supporting a SA ban by any means, merely pointing out how hypocritical Trump’s ban is.

15 of the 19 9/11 assailants and BIn Laden himself

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:45am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Spicer is drunk with delusions as always.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:33:49am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:34:32am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

15 of the 19 9/11 assailants and BIn Laden himself

Yep. I think the others were UAE and Egyptian which also are not on the ban list.

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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:34:43am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

There’s a weird dynamic wingnuts have with the government. They preport to hate the government and claim they need arsenals to protect themselves against said government but they also want the government to get rid of those they deem undesirables. There definitely is fascism in American conservative thought that I honestly did not see before Trump’s rise. I mean I’ve never thought much of American conservatism in general but Trump awoke something really ugly.

They’ve been at it all my adult life (which is why I have never voted for a Republican since I was old enough to vote in the Seventies). I saw it when I was five in a Jim Crow segregated school in kindergarten and first grade, until my mother got me the heck out of Dixie.

It once wasn’t Republicans, it was conservatives. The two are synonymous now.a

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:35:01am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Alright, Trumpcare “saves” $33B a year. Even hardcore wingnuts are acknowledging that that’s a drop in the bucket. Especially when your boss wants to boost defense spending by $54B this year alone.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:35:49am

re: #73 Anymouse

They’ve been at it all my adult life (which is why I have never voted for a Republican since I was old enough to vote in the Seventies). I saw it when I was five in a Jim Crow segregated school in kindergarten and first grade, until my mother got me the heck out of Dixie.

It once wasn’t Republicans, it was conservatives. The two are synonymous now.a

Yeah back in the day, you had more liberal Republicans. The whole party now is just rotten to the core.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:36:12am
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Anymouse  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:36:38am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, I recommend that Charles institute a “mega-upding” button, with like 10 ups that you can use only once a week or once a month or so, just for cases like this one.

+10

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:36:46am

re: #68 lawhawk

The ACA allows insurance to be sold across state lines if the policies are comparable to those offered in state. So, someone in NJ could conceivably could put together an insurance plan for NY that NY could approve if they’re comparable.

Problem is, no one wants it. Not the insurers, who’d have to create a network in-state, which is costly, and therefore isn’t worth the effort. And if there’s no in-network in state, then the costs are that much higher because out of network always is.

It’s a scam the GOP is pulling, same way they think HSAs will be the silver bullet here.

HSAs are just another tax dodge for the very wealthy who already have millions socked away, because if middle class (we won’t even count people living paycheck to paycheck) had more money to save they would choose a higher-yielding option than HSA.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:37:11am

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well yes, this sentence fragment is truthful. Obamacare is a program meant to ensure that tens of millions of Americans who previously could not afford health insurance would be able to for the first time.

Trumpcare is a badly disguised effort to shuffle nearly $1 trillion taxpayer dollars into the pockets of the people who need it least.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:37:26am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And here you thought From Russia With Love was just a Bond film, turns out it’s the Trump’s administration’s motto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:38:04am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:38:26am

The bros frustrate the fuck out of me. Never has it been more apparent the separation between the two parties and many of them still want to argue the 2016 primary. as a litmus test for the party going forward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:38:37am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:40:18am

re: #29 Big Beautiful Door

Trump friend and CEO of Newsmax, Christopher Ruddy, has published an op-ed urging Trump to keep his promise of universal coverage and expand Medicaid. This would be a very smart move on Trump’s part.

Except the only way to do that would be to slash military spending. Meanwhile Trump is slashing everything else and adding to the defense budget. So even if he had a partner in Ryan who wanted to work towards that goal, and he doesn’t, his own spending priorities are completely antithetical.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:40:19am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, I recommend that Charles institute a “mega-upding” button, with like 10 ups that you can use only once a week or once a month or so, just for cases like this one.

Can we also have a “double secret probation” button?

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:40:43am

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I remember that one fleeting moment when CNN showed sanity and recorded Bullshit Spice’s “briefing” rather than broadcasting it live, then showed it later with all the lies fact-checked.

I’m guessing whoever came up with that idea has since been sacked, considering The Trump Troupe that’s being assembled by CNN management now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:41:04am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:41:26am

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

Except the only way to do that would be to slash military spending. Meanwhile Trump is slashing everything else and adding to the defense budget. So even if he had a partner in Ryan who wanted to work towards that goal, and he doesn’t, his own spending priorities are completely antithetical.

Which is why anyone who believed that Trump was actually concerned with fixing infrastructure or helping the less well off was delusional as hell. He wants a second Reagan style military build up which would be stupid and wholly unnecessary.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:41:53am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course, Spicey does nothing but lie. Just like his boss.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:41:58am
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:10am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

I really wish people would stop using stupid buzzwords.

Alt-words that go to explain alt-facts in our new alt-world.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:19am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not really, as Obamacare is as popular as its ever been yet here he is, basically arguing that it’s a flaming pile of dogshit that the GOP will snuff out to wild applause.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:27am

re: #91 ObserverArt

Alt-words that go to explain alt-facts in our new alt-world.

Memes too.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:28am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Because it’s totally normal to include your son in law and bigoted adviser but not your SOS and SOD in discussions with a foreign power.

I think he has McMaster in there at least, hard to tell just from the back of the guy’s head.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:29am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only surveys that Trump person is interested in is one’s that say he is more popular than anyone else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:43:55am

re: #42 Anymouse

Most employers only give employees one insurance choice, therefore most employer health plans are about to collapse - that’s what Ryan is implying.

Better get on that single payer model, Ryan, since it’s obvious insurance is a failure as a business model.

Oh, no! You get two choices! Yes, or No.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:44:11am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:44:12am

re: #94 Timothy Watson

I think he has McMaster in there at least, hard to tell just from the back of the guy’s head.

McMaster may be the best member of the Trump administration at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:44:38am

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

The only surveys that Trump person is interested in is one’s that say he is more popular than anyone else.

Yep. Pretty much.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:44:39am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

If Tillerson were kidnapped, would anybody notice?

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:45:16am

re: #27 Anymouse

Steve King tripled down on his statements:

huffingtonpost.com

No white groups ever fought each other!

Said no one ever.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:46:44am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tom Cotton (of all people) explained today that there are no “3 prongs”. Prong one is now…prong 2 is whatever regulations come from Price (subject to lawsuits) and prong 3 is a fantasy that involves 60 votes in the Senate that will never, ever happen.

When wingnut Cotton calls your propaganda out…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:46:45am

re: #101 ObserverArt

No white groups ever fought each other!

Said no one ever.

or white Christian groups for that matter too. King is a moronic dingus in a party full of them.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:46:57am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And why is it that way, Sean? Oh right, because you assholes know you couldn’t get a full bill passed through due to a filibuster, so you’re trying to sneak it through one piece at a time through legislative sleight of hand.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:47:56am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought 3 prongs makes a grounded outlet. Or is it more than that?
(half attempt at electrical humor)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:48:20am

re: #102 Scottish Dragon

Tom Cotton (of all people) explained today that there are no “3 prongs”. Prong one is now…prong 2 is whatever regulations come from Price (subject to lawsuits) and prong 3 is a fantasy that involves 60 votes in the Senate that will never, ever happen.

When wingnut Cotton calls your propaganda out…

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:49:08am

I wonder if some people who want health insurance sold across state lines are thinking in terms of policies where if you get cancer, the insurer sends you X amount of money and then you get to go bargain with your local cancer center to try and get treatment for that amount? Because everyone with cancer has lots of time and choices for their care.

The idea of doctors in multiple states being ‘in network” for a variety of providers is mind boggling.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:49:18am

re: #68 lawhawk

The ACA allows insurance to be sold across state lines if the policies are comparable to those offered in state. So, someone in NJ could conceivably could put together an insurance plan for NY that NY could approve if they’re comparable.

Problem is, no one wants it. Not the insurers, who’d have to create a network in-state, which is costly, and therefore isn’t worth the effort. And if there’s no in-network in state, then the costs are that much higher because out of network always is.

It’s a scam the GOP is pulling, same way they think HSAs will be the silver bullet here.

So, living in California, I COULD buy a plan in Alabama, but all my providers would be in Alabama?

And of course, HSAs for people who live check-to-check.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:49:19am
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:49:23am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:49:53am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Whether Kushner realizes it or not Trump and Bannon are setting him up to be perceived as a kind of “Court Jew.” A position that historically doesn’t end well for the greater Jewish population. When things go bad enough for Trump’s own racist supporters to finally acknowledge his abject failure what do you think is more likely, that they finally recognize and rehabilitate their own racism or that they blame the Jews for undermining their glorious leader.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:50:48am

re: #33 lawhawk

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Every fucking day Ryan lies about how Obamacare is collapsing. It does nothing of the sort. Sprinkle in the whole “1 insurer for x counties/states” BS, and they’re getting on my last nerve. Clearly, they don’t know how insurance works, and this is just more proof.

Oh they know how it works. They are counting on the conservative media to keep their vast wasteland of supporters in the don’t know how it works classification.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:51:01am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:51:04am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:51:54am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:52:05am

re: #102 Scottish Dragon

Tom Cotton (of all people) explained today that there are no “3 prongs”. Prong one is now…prong 2 is whatever regulations come from Price (subject to lawsuits) and prong 3 is a fantasy that involves 60 votes in the Senate that will never, ever happen.

When wingnut Cotton calls your propaganda out…

One reason I think Trumpcare is dead; he’s lost Tom Cotton, of all people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:52:22am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:52:27am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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And all it took was for him to recklessly libel his predecessor based on nothing but pure bullshit from Mark Levin & Breitbart.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:52:35am

re: #110 Kragar

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Prong Cocktail…prong…prong… Eva Prong…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:52:42am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everyone had “access”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:53:01am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:53:37am
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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:53:43am

re: #85 I Would Prefer Not To

Can we also have a “double secret probation” button?

Or a “You just made the list pal” button.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:54:32am
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:54:43am

re: #45 Targetpractice

Oh, and Paul, my own workplace only offers one insurance plan. And guess what: It’s virtually unaffordable to anybody who’s not management.

And I betcha it has high deductible rates too.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:54:46am
“This is it,” @PressSec says. “If we don’t get this through, the goal of repealing Obamacare is…going to be unbelievably difficult.”
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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:55:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:55:29am

“This is it,” @PressSec says. “If we don’t get this through, the goal of repealing Obamacare is…going to be unbelievably difficult.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:55:57am

re: #102 Scottish Dragon

Tom Cotton (of all people) explained today that there are no “3 prongs”. Prong one is now…prong 2 is whatever regulations come from Price (subject to lawsuits) and prong 3 is a fantasy that involves 60 votes in the Senate that will never, ever happen.

When wingnut Cotton calls your propaganda out…

Prong 2 is basically the GOP asking Price to jump on the grenade they tossed into the middle of the room. “Here, find some way to make this shitshow work, Tom. And if you can’t, one word: Sebelius.”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:55:57am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:56:06am

re: #107 calochortus

I wonder if some people who want health insurance sold across state lines are thinking in terms of policies where if you get cancer, the insurer sends you X amount of money and then you get to go bargain with your local cancer center to try and get treatment for that amount? Because everyone with cancer has lots of time and choices for their care.

Paul Ryan believes exactly that. He has long supported replacing Medicare with “vouchers” because “Grandma loves clipping coupons and shopping for bargains!”

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:56:07am

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

One reason I think Trumpcare is dead; he’s lost Tom Cotton, of all people.

Oh, I bet Cotton and all the rest go along with it in the end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:56:14am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:56:41am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That works for me!

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:57:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:57:25am

re: #127 Dr. Matt

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Prong 1: Fuck you in the ass
Prong 2: Fuck you in the mouth
Prong 3: Well you get the idea.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:57:26am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

I got better…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:58:03am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

“This is it,” @PressSec says. “If we don’t get this through, the goal of repealing Obamacare is…going to be unbelievably difficult.”

YouTube

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:58:39am

I turned on the press conference and I regret it. It’s just painful to watch this squirrelly fucker lie, lie, lie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:59:13am

.@PressSec: We want to give “everyone who wants to get health care the financial ability to get it.” abcn.ws

good fucking grief

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:59:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:00:38pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

We had it under ACA and now that Trump person and his gang are taking it away.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:00:47pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

If you want health care more than food, then we’ll give you that opportunity.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:02:05pm

re: #63 Mike Lamb

And when the content of the policies is mandated (at least in part) by statute, the fact that there is only one option is even less meaningful.

But none of this matters when you have a GOP that choice, in and of itself, is a virtue. Having two shitty options is a better outcome than having one good option.

To add: Ryan’s argument is almost like saying there’s only 1 utility company per county. Oh noes!

Finally, the slimy “Obamacare is collapsing” line aggravates me when the story is that the areas that have issues are those where the GOP deliberately sabotaged ACA’s efficacy. Just a continuation of the age old GOP play book:

1. Gov’t is the problem.
2. Enact bills/regs to prevent effective governing.
3. See, gov’t is the problem.

Rinse, repeat.

And no one ever brings up the fact that so many states messed up the ACA from the get-go. If all 50 states would have gotten involved in setting up exchanges and spent some time explaining the advantages of the program and how it all works and why we wouldn’t be where we are.

The GOP wanted it dead from the get-go. How many times did they try to kill it. Last number I remember was around 70 attempts or so.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:02:08pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good fucking grief

It seems pretty obvious that we’re not the intended audience for Sean’s remarks. The people whose offices are located on Wall St. are the ones who he’s trying to sell this shit to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:02:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:02:32pm
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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:02:57pm

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

Paul Ryan believes exactly that. He has long supported replacing Medicare with “vouchers” because “Grandma loves clipping coupons and shopping for bargains!”

Ummm, no. So, I’m not a grandma, but I’ll be on Medicare i about a year, so I think I fall into the general demographic and no, I don’t want to fart around with health care providers. I want to make an appointment, see my doctor, get what I need and go home. One reason I like Kaiser and will stay with them when I’m on Medicare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:03:54pm

worst WH photographer ever

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:04:05pm

re: #132 Sir John Barron

Oh, I bet Cotton and all the rest go along with it in the end.

I’ll take that bet. Trumpcare is dead, I think.

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ericblair  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:04:53pm

re: #132 Sir John Barron

Oh, I bet Cotton and all the rest go along with it in the end.

I don’t. The infighting is real, and it’s not some clever triple-bank shot where they’re all putting on a show. This was a mess from start to finish shat out by lazy incompetents who didn’t care whether the math or logic actually worked.

The town halls have got them spooked, and by spiking earmarks years ago the leadership has nothing to bribe them with. They might get it through the House if the Freedom Caucus of kooks comes around, figuring the Senate will stop it. Then they’ll lose enough goopers in the Senate and that’s that.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:05:15pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

worst WH photographer ever

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I’m sure he intended to put that lamp and overhead mic in the foreground. Creative framing. cough

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:06:20pm

re: #148 calochortus

Ummm, no. So, I’m not a grandma, but I’ll be on Medicare i about a year, so I think I fall into the general demographic and no, I don’t want to fart around with health care providers. I want to make an appointment, see my doctor, get what I need and go home. One reason I like Kaiser and will stay with them when I’m on Medicare.

Also: the GOP keeps bringing up the cost of Lasik surgery as an example of “medical care getting cheaper because COMPETITIONS!!!!” Um no. Lasik has always been an optional treatment, not something that is life critical. It’s like teeth whitening or breast implants.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:07:01pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

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We should trust that Prong 2 and Prong 3 will solve all of our problems, because of a promise from the guy who made his fortune agreeing to contracts then stiffing the contractors after the work was complete?

Yeah. Right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:07:25pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

I’m sure he intended to put that lamp and overhead mic in the foreground. Creative framing. cough

Kellyanne is still using the microwave to take snapshots…

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:07:50pm

re: #123 Jack Burton

Or a “You just made the list pal” button.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:08:16pm

The most realistic way to interpret Sean’s remark about how it becomes much harder to repeal Obamacare without this bill is that reality is not cooperating with their talking points, that the ACA isn’t in a “death spiral” and is popular enough that people want to see it reformed rather than repealed. So they need this poison pill to advance their cause, else they’re stuck where they’ve been the past 8 years: Trying to come up with an “alternative” when their best ideas have already been taken.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:08:30pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:09:38pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sean Spicer now arguing that the individual market worked well before Obamacare, which, no.

failure of the individual market was what led to the Heritage Foundation plan that ACA was based on

who do we still let them sell us the notion that “individual freedom” means the right of individuals and families with limited incomes to negotiate one-one-one for terms of coverage with a company whose CEO earns more in a year than most of us will earn in a lifetime?

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:10:37pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

He’s still getting used to his new microwave.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:10:45pm

Trump, Jan 15: “We’re going to have insurance for everybody.” Spicer, Mar 14: “Insurance for everybody who wants to get it.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:10:49pm

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

“Obamacare turned me into a newt.” -Sean Spicer

But does Kellyanne weigh more than a duck?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:11:14pm

re: #123 Jack Burton

Or a “You just made the list pal” button.

Or the all-time classic, “eat a bag of dicks” button

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:11:32pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:12:02pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Kansas.

Republicans keep pushing that tax cuts will create jobs and increase money for the government, and when it fails, it’s because there’s too much regulation, or the federal government taxes need to be cut for it to work.

But that’s not how anything works.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:12:36pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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Prong 1: Repeal the ACA, drastically cut Medicaid, cut subsidies for older, poorer Americans.

Prong 2: ?????

Prong 3: Profit! More people covered with better plans and more choices for less money!

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:12:44pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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Brings to mind EA’s business practice with The Sims franchise these days: Sell us a bare-bones game that’s nowhere near what we were promised, then spend years selling us back the bits that we were promised at an inflated price.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:13:53pm

re: #166 Belafon

Kansas.

Republicans keep pushing that tax cuts will create jobs and increase money for the government, and when it fails, it’s because there’s too much regulation, or the federal government taxes need to be cut for it to work.

But that’s not how anything works.

WE JUST HAVEN’T CUT TAX RATES ENOUGH FOR TAX REVENUES TO SKYROCKET!! IF WE CUT TAX RATES TO ZERO, TAX REVENUES WILL GO TO INFINITY!!!

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:14:00pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

And why is it that way, Sean? Oh right, because you assholes know you couldn’t get a full bill passed through due to a filibuster, so you’re trying to sneak it through one piece at a time through legislative sleight of hand.

Instead of having to read the policy after it is passed, a big dig on the ACA when it was being created…the GOPdonTCare plan is wait for the actual policy after this is passed…and it will be slow in coming.

You can read about it in a few years…if you’re still alive by then.

No worries there, right?

Critical thinking America. You used to be good at it.

Well, until Fox News, Rush, Glenn, Alex and others turned your minds into blackened glop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:14:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:16:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:16:48pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:17:34pm

You know, I was expecting the GOP to basically go back on every anti-ACA talking point after Trump’s election, but I didn’t expect them to do it all in one sitting. Gotta pace yourselves, fellas, or you’re not going to make it to 2018.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:17:45pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicey just said a 54 yr doesn’t need maternity.
While it’s uncommon we are fertile until menopause & these are dangerous pregnancies.

Let him dig his ass in deeper.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:18:12pm

Huh. That must by why the CBO estimated premiums for olds to be so much lower than young people.

Oh, wait….

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:19:02pm

re: #127 Dr. Matt

Dr. Matt @DrMatthew
The GOP’s three #prong #ACARepeal and replace:

Prong 1: Fuck you
Prong 2: Fuck you
Prong 3: See above
2:54 PM - 14 Mar 2017
Retweets likes

Three prongs and ye’r out!!!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:19:17pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:19:52pm

Big question: Is Spicey up there selling this shit for the White House or for Congress? Because it would not surprise me that Ryan and Yertle are watching this right now and going “SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU’RE GIVING THE WHOLE GAME AWAY!!!”

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:20:32pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

March 15: Insurance for everyone who deserves it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:21:28pm

Lauren Southern, a Canadian “alt-right” media figure, is the latest troll to gain access to the White House press briefing. Southern has a record of making incendiary remarks, denying the existence of rape culture, and demonizing racial, ethnic, and religious minorities. Southern is just the latest of the fringe, sycophantic “alt-right” media personalities that the White House is letting into its press briefings.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:22:39pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

I turned on the press conference and I regret it. It’s just painful to watch this squirrelly fucker lie, lie, lie.

Sean Spicer “The Flailing Fool”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:22:45pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:23:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:23:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:23:48pm

re: #11 Myron Falwell

Thank you, Ms. Pelosi. This is why I hate when people argue that both parties are the same. They are not. Whether or not White Democrats are racists in their hearts, the Party doesn’t tolerate open demonstrations of racism. Republicans do.

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b.d.  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:26:03pm

The Prong is a Lie

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:27:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:28:53pm

re: #188 Kragar

Top GOP senator: Democrats who don’t like our healthcare bill should make their own

What, AGAIN?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:29:07pm

re: #188 Kragar

Obamacare is failing so Dems must vote for our bill or create a new one, which we’ll reject.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:29:11pm

re: #188 Kragar

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They did, it’s called the Affordable Care Act, you fuckwit.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:29:49pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cue Iggy Popp’s “Nazi Girlfriend”.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:29:50pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good fucking grief

And the GOPdonTcare plan isn’t forcing people to make insurance decisions Sean?

I do give Sean credit. He is being ‘truthful’ in the sense he is explaining how fucked up this administration is. And he is a spokesman for it as he does a great job in explaining how just exactly fucked up it really is because he portrays it in his delivery.

Sean is fucked up because it is ALL fucked up.

“…you’re doing a heckuva a job, Seanie.”

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:30:00pm

re: #188 Kragar

Pelosi and Schumer should state that we have one.

Edit: Schumer did:

Asked about Cornyn’s comments, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer

(D-N.Y.) argued that Democrats had already offered a bill—the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

“We’ve offered it. It’s on the books. It’s working,” he said. “We have told Senator Cornyn and the others, if [Senate Majority] Leader [Mitch] McConnell… Speaker [Paul] Ryan, and President Trump say tomorrow they’re giving up on repeal we’ll work with them to improve ACA.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:31:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:32:07pm

You realize what the Prongs are about, right? Ryan’s goal is to jam the first bill through, essentially killing the ACA, hoping this will make Democrats work with Republicans to try and salvage SOMETHING, which they GOP can then blame them for.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:32:11pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that makes it all better???

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:32:39pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:32:46pm

Steve Bannon and Steve King have both endorsed an explicitly racist novel.

slate.com

slate.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:33:55pm

re: #198 Kragar

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Medicare-For-All. Say that, since the GOP has finally agreed that the government has a part to play in healthcare, then it’s time we just cut out the middle-man.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:34:10pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Democratic leaders/politicians need to be making a fuss about this. I know that Democratic leadership is being bombarded every day with all the ish from the Trump regime but they really have to do a better job at countering Trump’s bad moves. Perhaps, there should be a special office within the DNC which gives talking points to Democratic Congress folks so that we are pushing back on multiple fronts.

Feels like if I didn’t read blogs like LGF, I’d never hear about all of Trump’s mess. Whenever Dems get on mainstream media shows, they should be shouting about the alt-right’s acceptance into Trump’s orbit. This is a big deal.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:35:39pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

CanadianCynic has been documenting her “adventures” for quite some time:

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:35:46pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

Medicare-For-All. Say that, since the GOP has finally agreed that the government has a part to play in healthcare, then it’s time we just cut out the middle-man.

And the bill would only need to be one page. A win-win.

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:37:11pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hate her so much.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:37:30pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

worst WH photographer ever

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No!!!

Worst Uncle-Ed-with-his-camera-he-doesn’t-understand picture taker ever.

There is no actual photographer involved.

But just as I explained about Sean Spicer being a truthful reflection of how fucked up the Trump Administration is, whoever is taking crappy images is truthfully capturing the fuckedupness.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:39:39pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

I’m sure he intended to put that lamp and overhead mic in the foreground. Creative framing. cough

It’s all simple two dimensional design. Dominate. Sub-Dominate. Accent.

So the lamp shade is dominate. I think that says a lot!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:39:44pm

Lauren Southern is only 21. She can’t possibly know much of what she often speaks on.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:39:45pm

re: #178 lawhawk

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Video

Any comment containing a Prong video is a good comment.

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:40:14pm

Just what we need. A series of Bernie Sanders in Trump country town halls. That’ll make everything okay fine. Sigh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:40:41pm

Also, any bets on how long until Spicer starts banning orgs from the press briefing?

I suspect NBC and CNN to be out any day now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:43:12pm

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, any bets on how long until Spicer starts banning orgs from the press briefing?

I suspect NBC and CNN to be out any day now.

He’s already done that at least once.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:43:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:44:35pm

*blink*

So women are “cabins” now…

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:45:03pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Lauren Southern is only 21. She can’t possibly know much of what she often speaks on.

Holy shit is she REALLY 21?? WHAT THE FUCK

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:45:14pm

re: #209 BeachDem

Just what we need. A series of Bernie Sanders in Trump country town halls. That’ll make everything okay fine. Sigh.

Yeah, it’s just what we need: Bernie out there, further convincing the rubes that stewing in their own victimhood is a viable alternative to getting off their asses and doing something about their situation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:47:05pm

re: #215 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s just what we need: Bernie out there, further convincing the rubes that stewing in their own victimhood is a viable alternative to getting off their asses and doing something about their situation.

That townhall in WV was such a hot mess of white angst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:47:29pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:48:54pm

Trump keeps making these bullshit pronouncements, getting called on them, and then walking them back…and the media totally lets him do it. The only reason he’s backing off the “wiretapp” business now is because Congressional Democrats have called his bluff and are demanding to see the proof.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:48:56pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

That townhall in WV was such a hot mess of white angst.

I didn’t watch, but I saw someone comment that when it was blacks in cities dealing with job loss and the crack cocaine epidemic, there was a whole lot of no sympathy, vs now with whites dealing with job loss and the opioid epidemic, that’s different!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:48:57pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love Lea Black!

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:49:42pm

Time to go pick up the chair I offered to reupholster for my son. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the upholstered part can be removed from the frame without encountering any parts that are glued together. Glue is of the devil in this context.

BBL

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:50:10pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Typical, they left the microwave for some guy on the third shift to clean up…

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:50:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:50:39pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

I didn’t watch, but I saw someone comment that when it was blacks in cities dealing with job loss and the crack cocaine epidemic, there was a whole lot of no sympathy, vs now with whites dealing with job loss and the opioid epidemic, that’s different!

Yep.
It was pretty much a whole lot of “when is it going to be time for the government to pay attention to us white people?”

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:51:21pm

re: #198 Kragar

It’s time that these news reports/tweets identify the idiots who make these idiotic claims/statements up front.

Want to hold them accountable? Start by naming names in the headlines and ledes.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:51:41pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep.
It was pretty much a whole lot of “when is going to be time for the government to pay attention to us white people?”

When you vote for the people that actually care.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:54:06pm

This is such utter bullshit==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:54:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:56:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:57:01pm
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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:57:44pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

These losers must be desperate to think she would sleep with them if they keep white-knighting her. It’s beyond pathetic.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:58:14pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

This is such utter bullshit==>

The Republicans want to give you the freedom to choose, even if you can’t choose a good one.
The Democrats want to give you freedom from being worried, even if it requires you to help someone else in the process.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 12:59:34pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

This is such utter bullshit==>

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Is this from The Onion? Because it’s a complete joke compared to reality.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:00:39pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

And she’s too much of a white supremacist for the Rebel, which was the remnants of the late, unlamented, Sun TV, which was Canada’s laughable attempt at a Fox News network. In US terms, she’s too nutzoid for Breitbart.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:00:41pm

Ha, if only:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:01:13pm

re: #214 electrotek

Holy shit is she REALLY 21?? WHAT THE FUCK

Born summer of 1995.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:01:31pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

This is such utter bullshit==>

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electrotek  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:02:02pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Born summer of 1995.

Jeez, that makes me feel old as fuck.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:02:50pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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Why do they bother?

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:03:06pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Born summer of 1995.

re: #238 electrotek

Jeez, that makes me feel old as fuck.

I was 20 then….

*sigh*

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:03:35pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Born summer of 1995.

She’s the same age as my oldest son, then, who is going to be working on his PhD in chemistry. Thus, he’ll at least be contributing to society.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:04:13pm

re: #232 Belafon

The Republicans want to give you the freedom to choose, even if you can’t choose a good one.
The Democrats want to give you freedom from being worried, even if it requires you to help someone else in the process.

It’s kind of like how the GOP handles abortion these days.
It’s legal.
It’s available.
Not much use if your state has only one provider (usually 100+ miles away) because state government managed to shut down all of the rest via bogus health safety regs that have nothing to do with either health or safety, and they make you have an ultrasound and wait 24-48 hours before having the procedure.

Or voter suppression efforts where they shut down DMVs so you have to travel 100+ miles to get a state-approved photo ID. (And hope you have all of the required documentation, which you probably won’t.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:04:14pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep.
It was pretty much a whole lot of “when is it going to be time for the government to pay attention to us white people?”

Okay, how about we pass laws like we did to fight the crack cocaine epidemic, where we have a bidding war to see who can propose the harshest sentences for Meth or Heroin possession?

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:04:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:05:14pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:05:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:05:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:05:45pm

re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, how about we pass laws like we did to fight the crack cocaine epidemic, where we have a bidding war to see who can propose the harshest sentences for Meth or Heroin possession?

Ohio is working on it.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:06:32pm
@TweetWorcester The emergency team is looking at a video of a cat? #meow

Fun true story: a couple of weeks ago I was in my local bar with friends, and when I loaded the 24-hour live-streaming kittens on my phone to show a friend, it started streaming to the big 50” main TV behind the bar. I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t showing on my phone but it said “Playing to Samsung 50” on the Youtube app window, and I looked up and the golf game on the main TV was now live kittens. The bartender had to turn the TV off and back on again to clear it.

I’m tempted to abuse this power, except they know who did it, so I couldn’t get away with it again. And I have no idea how it happened; I was on the bar’s Wifi but I didn’t select their TV on purpose.

Edit: Point being, somebody in the ops center might be on break in the next room, wondering why a cat video isn’t loading on their phone…

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:06:40pm

“Eliminate the individual and employer mandate penalties”…so we can send the health insurance market into a tailspin.

“Provide nearly $1 trillion in relief from Obamacare’s taxes”…and shovel it all into the bank accounts of our big donors.

“Repeal Obamacare’s flawed subsidies”…that have allowed tens of millions to afford insurance for the first time.

“Empower Americans with a tax credit that can be used to buy health care plans tailored to their needs”…when the market will never offer such and what it will offer will be more than those subsidies are worth.

“Expand and enhance Health Savings Accounts”…for the young and affluent who can afford to put money away, while the rest of you goobers are SOL.

“The American Health Care Act”…brought to you by the same people who came you the “Patriot Act” and told you it would protect you rather than make you fear your government even more.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:07:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:07:47pm

re: #246 GlutenFreeJesus

GOPCare theme song:

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I was thinking more like this:

Drowning Pool - Bodies

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:08:26pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

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Meanwhile, in the real world, liberals are generally first against the wall when an authoritarian regime comes to power. Usually because the ignorant thugs in charge don’t want people smarter than them pointing out all the flaws in their new “utopia.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:08:59pm

re: #241 Belafon

She’s the same age as my oldest son, then, who is going to be working on his PhD in chemistry. Thus, he’ll at least be contributing to society.

She’s 4 years younger than The Older Boy, who is working as a Courtesy Clerk* at Safeway, so he also, unlike her, is contributing to society.

*We call him ‘Courteous George’.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:10:29pm

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

She’s 4 years younger than The Older Boy, who is working as a Courtesy Clerk* at Safeway, so he also, unlike her, is contributing to society.

*We call him ‘Courteous George’.

Yep, anything other than doing whatever she’s doing.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:10:39pm

The mindset seen with the Trumpcare tax credit is much like that with “school choice” vouchers: Promise that it’ll give you the freedom to attain the things you want, when the reality is that the things you want will be priced out of your reach and the things you will be able to afford will be (at best) no better than what you already had.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:12:07pm

re: #255 Belafon

Yep, anything other than doing whatever she’s doing.

Sitting at home, eating Cheetos, for example, because at least you’re not actively making the world shittier.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:12:26pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

No!!!

Worst Uncle-Ed-with-his-camera-he-doesn’t-understand picture taker ever.

There is no actual photographer involved.

But just as I explained about Sean Spicer being a truthful reflection of how fucked up the Trump Administration is, whoever is taking crappy images is truthfully capturing the fuckedupness.

Maybe it’s Kellyanne with her phone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:13:04pm

re: #258 retired cynic

Maybe it’s Kellyanne with her phone. microwave

FTFY

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:13:07pm

re: #258 retired cynic

I dunno, that’d be a difficult shot to get with a microwave

Edit: 3 flippin’ seconds

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:13:45pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #260 A wild WITHAK appeared!

3 seconds!

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:14:06pm

re: #214 electrotek

Holy shit is she REALLY 21?? WHAT THE FUCK

Send her to Journalism school. Or better yet, home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:14:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:15:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:16:43pm

of course he did…

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:16:56pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

I donate to them and the ACLU.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:19:14pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder what that little sunburst is covering up there. It looks like there used to be text behind it.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:19:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:20:20pm

nope…I ain’t gonna click on it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:21:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:24:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:24:17pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:24:34pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

nope…I ain’t gonna click on it:

Reminds me of the light up items with cameras on Masters of Sex.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:25:27pm

re: #267 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Found it:

Imgur

It used to say “Like us Facebook/Stop Hillary in 2016” so that’s pretty boring. I’m disappointed.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:26:59pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:31:22pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is bad. It is a good thing I am in northeast Philly. Winds, snow flurries and shoveled walks. This was a snow and ice mixture. It was a “b” to shovel.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:32:43pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:33:52pm

re: #267 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I wonder what that little sunburst is covering up there. It looks like there used to be text behind it.

Yeah it’s outdated. Looks like they actually DID STOP HER.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:34:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:35:31pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:37:38pm

re: #275 bratwurst

Perhaps somewhat related…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:44:56pm

re: #214 electrotek

Holy shit is she REALLY 21?? WHAT THE FUCK

There’s some 19 yo kid named Mazza who made up his own media outfit who got to ask a question at the first Trump press conference (it’s in the New Yorker piece on Trump trolling the press).

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:45:36pm

re: #281 A wild WITHAK appeared!

A isn’t racist enough for B, who’s too racist for C, and not overt enough for D.

Can B sit next to D?

Answer: All are fucking white supremacists. They all sit next to each other on that short bus.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:46:39pm

re: #283 lawhawk

A isn’t racist enough for B, who’s too racist for C, and not overt enough for D.

Can B sit next to D?

Answer: All are fucking white supremacists. They all sit next to each other on that short bus.

LSAT flashback?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:47:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:49:57pm
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:51:56pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:52:33pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can’t wait to send another massive wave of refugees to Europe, I’ll bet.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:56:45pm
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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:57:53pm

re: #188 Kragar

“Top GOP senator: Democrats who don’t like our healthcare bill should make their own”

Cornyn isn’t handling the rejection of the GOP healthcare bill very well. Dems passed the PPACA in March 2010. I guess Cornyn has forgotten that it’s the law he and his GOP buddies in Congress have been vowing to “repeal and replace” for eight years. These tools have known all along that they didn’t have a suitable bill that would do the same things the PPACA does, and now they’re upset that we don’t like the pile of feces that they’re offering to us and describing as the bestest chocolate on the planet? Frustration can make some people say some weird stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 1:58:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:00:26pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:01:44pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:01:55pm

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

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Well, there’s that pipe he always smoked….

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:03:08pm

re: #277 Kragar

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:05:12pm

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

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How do you test a corncob pipe for chlamydia?

Asking for a friend…

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:07:46pm

re: #281 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Perhaps somewhat related…

Heh, choking on their own hatred and bile.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:08:19pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:08:24pm

re: #100 Scottish Dragon

If Tillerson were kidnapped, would anybody notice?

Yeah, the people he works for, the Russians.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:09:01pm

So Nazi Representative King, how will #Trumpcare help this situation?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:10:11pm

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

Seeing how the GOP doesn’t think much of prenatal care, I’d say that they haven’t got a frickin’ clue.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:11:21pm

re: #214 electrotek

Holy shit is she REALLY 21?? WHAT THE FUCK

Hatred comes in all ages.

Wouldn’t be surprised to hear that she turned full Nazi just for the easy money and social media ‘likes’ … and it took over her in a wag-the-dog situation.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:14:02pm

re: #299 Skip Intro

Yeah, the people he works for, the Russians.

… and that would mean their “he’s no longer necessary” hit job would be a success.

If only I could add the // tag.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:14:47pm
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SteelPH  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:17:46pm

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:20:57pm

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

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Yes, but… in fairness, if 24M people lose health coverage, and 4 or 5 million of them die, that’s a whole lot of JOBS JOBS JOBS suddenly available…. upward pressure on wages, etc.

When the plague swept through Europe and killed 40% of everyone, sure it was miserable for the people there at the time, but people 50 or 100 years later were much better off for it.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:21:22pm

Give me a fucking break!

Stop giving this maniac the attention he craves. He’s just as nasty and delusional as he ever was:

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:24:48pm

re: #307 bratwurst

Give me a fucking break!

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Glen Beck, Rand Paul, Ron Paul (sometimes), any other libertarian…

They sound good for 5 minutes. After those pass get ready for the rampant stupidity and horse shit. I still cant get over all the stuff Glen said on fox. His show on headline news wasnt bad; though only in comparison to Nancy Grace.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:24:58pm

re: #306 sagehen

Macroeconomic effects were not reviewed by the CBO because of the rush the GOP put on this #GOPDontCare #Trumpcare plan.

If 24 million lose coverage, and some portion of those people get sick, they are likely to stop buying other stuff so they can cover medical costs - medical spending isn’t going to decrease because of the plan. It shifts the burden of who pays entirely onto people who don’t have the capacity to repay.

We’ll see a spate of medically induced bankruptcies, and the GDP will decline, because spending on other sectors will decline as people try to scrounge to cover their medical bills. That harms everyone.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:25:01pm

re: #307 bratwurst

I still can’t believe that Samantha Bee’s showrunners gave Clarabelle the Human Hemorrhoid the time of day.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:27:35pm

re: #309 lawhawk

Macroeconomic effects were not reviewed by the CBO because of the rush the GOP put on this #GOPDontCare #Trumpcare plan.

If 24 million lose coverage, and some portion of those people get sick, they are likely to stop buying other stuff so they can cover medical costs - medical spending isn’t going to decrease because of the plan. It shifts the burden of who pays entirely onto people who don’t have the capacity to repay.

We’ll see a spate of medically induced bankruptcies, and the GDP will decline, because spending on other sectors will decline as people try to scrounge to cover their medical bills. That harms everyone.

AFAICT, Republicans don’t believe in Macroeconomics. They simply extrapolate from ‘Phil sells Bob a hammer. If Phil didn’t sell Bob a good hammer at a fair price, Bob wouldn’t buy it’ to entire nations.

EDIT: fixed.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:27:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:28:29pm

re: #305 SteelPH

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:30:30pm

re: #309 lawhawk

Macroeconomic effects were not reviewed by the CBO because of the rush the GOP put on this #GOPDontCare #Trumpcare plan.

If 24 million lose coverage, and some portion of those people get sick, they are likely to stop buying other stuff so they can cover medical costs - medical spending isn’t going to decrease because of the plan. It shifts the burden of who pays entirely onto people who don’t have the capacity to repay.

We’ll see a spate of medically induced bankruptcies, and the GDP will decline, because spending on other sectors will decline as people try to scrounge to cover their medical bills. That harms everyone.

Not to mention a return to the days of peoples credit ratings tanking when the debt collectors come looking for money to cover unpaid medical bills. The wage garnishments and liens imposed upon property and possessions. The court costs of showing up in bankruptcy court. And so on and so forth, ensuring the dominance of medical bills as the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the US for another generation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:31:34pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:33:17pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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These dipshits can’t keep their talking points straight. One says “They won’t lose their insurance because they’ll have ‘better’ options,” but then the next declares that 24 million Americans don’t want health insurance after all so it won’t matter that they lose it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:33:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:33:42pm

These jaspers think that poor people don’t have skin in the healthcare game, even though they have their own actual skin in the game. They think that if people have to pay for their own colonoscopies out of pocket, they’ll shop around and find the cheapest guy with a videocamera on the end of a plumbers’ snake, and that’ll drive prices down generally.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:36:24pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thoughts coming from a man with years of formal schooling and decades of experience in meteorology, right?

Oh wait, no, this is coming from a guy who just short of being dead last in his graduating high school class and meandered from one dead-end job to another. Finally ending up as the editor-in-chief of a website that hasn’t seen an update since the days of Windows 95.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:36:44pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If they really wanted healthcare, they wouldn’t be old and poor!

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:36:45pm

re: #314 Targetpractice

I have no doubt that the King of Bankruptcy will make sure medical debt cannot be relieved under personal bankruptcy.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:37:04pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

Quintupling down on the stupid. It’s breathtaking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:37:42pm

re: #305 SteelPH

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:38:47pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Funny thing is, of course, that the same folks who will attack the NWS for overestimating a storm were the ones attacking New Orleans residents not evacuating while Katrina was still on the Atlantic side of Florida, because the prediction cone included NOLA.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:40:34pm

re: #322 Skip Intro

I have no doubt that the King of Bankruptcy will make sure medical debt cannot be relieved under personal bankruptcy.

I suppose they could argue that, like student loans where they can’t repossess your education, they can’t repossess your health.

Though I seem to remember the plot of several movies and TV shows involved just that.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:41:39pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

Funny thing is, of course, that the same folks who will attack the NWS for overestimating a storm were the ones attacking New Orleans residents not evacuating while Katrina was still on the Atlantic side of Florida, because the prediction cone included NOLA.

20/20 Hindsight is a specialty of wingnuts.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:42:12pm

Yeah, I bet he’s got money pouring into his campaign fund right now…

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SteelPH  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:42:27pm

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:44:29pm

The eminent domain seizures have begun…

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:45:29pm
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nines09  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:46:01pm

So. How much snow did you guys get? “Well, it’s still snowing and my small dog said;”

fuck it…

And yes, I cleared out a spot. But that’s my mutt. 20 inches and still snowing….Central Pennsylvania. Busted my ass. Spring. Please.

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Cheechako  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:49:36pm

Here in SE Alaska we’re keeping up with you East Coasties. 20 inches of snow so far and it’s still snowing. Just remember, Alaska weather today will be your weather in 3-5 days!

And my snow-blower died. :(

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:52:31pm

Weather’s great here. Plenty of room for lots of people to move in. Please bring an economy when you do, though. We’re lacking that.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:53:57pm

re: #333 Cheechako

Here in SE Alaska we’re keeping up with you East Coasties. 20 inches of snow so far and it’s still snowing. Just remember, Alaska weather today will be your weather in 3-5 days!

And my snow-blower died. :(

Yeah, we’re supposed to get 3-5” more on Saturday. I hope that’s all.

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:55:50pm

re: #332 nines09

re: #333 Cheechako

re: #334 wrenchwench

Everyone is welcome in Colorado! Only whole state to fight the immigration crap from the Trumpkin. Tons of libations everywhere. Weather has been in the 60s and 70s… come on down and make this blue state just a bit darker in hue.

And legal weed.

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SteelPH  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:56:08pm

Snowy here, but it hasn’t been lasting long. I don’t expect much to really pile up.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:57:45pm

re: #337 SteelPH

Snow and ice here in Philly. We might get a little more Friday night. I hope not I do not want to shovel any more of that stuff.

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harlequinade  Mar 14, 2017 • 2:58:59pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:02:38pm

re: #339 harlequinade

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:02:46pm

re: #339 harlequinade

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:05:17pm

WW, thought you’d like this (I know RBS would if he was back from his very lengthy break):

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:05:39pm

re: #330 FormerDirtDart

The eminent domain seizures have begun…

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2900.00 for 1.2 acres.

Hell nah.

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petesh  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:08:23pm

re: #343 Stanley Sea

2900.00 for 1.2 acres.

Hell nah.

I was wondering … anyone got any idea of the going rate there?

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(alpuz)  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:10:25pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sweet mags.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:11:09pm

re: #344 petesh

I was wondering … anyone got any idea of the going rate there?

Average price per acre for Texas was $4,849 in 2013.
per the Google.

For the Yam? I’d fight for 500K & hold it in court till kingdom come.

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SteelPH  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:11:12pm

re: #339 harlequinade

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nines09  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:11:23pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:12:45pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:13:34pm

A fucking prick interviews a horrible asshole. Must see TV!

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:14:26pm

re: #344 petesh

I did a quick Zillow search for land/lots in Mission, and found one right on the border. 39.19 acres for $1,355,000 or $34,750ish per acre.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:15:11pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:15:30pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he did…

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Thanks for the reminder. I needed to post my own version!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:16:01pm

The Resistance is tough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:16:03pm

re: #350 teleskiguy

A fucking prick interviews a horrible asshole. Must see TV!

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:17:36pm

Somebody call a Whammbulance.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:17:37pm

re: #354 Stanley Sea

It has to be. How else are we going to get rid of that Trump person?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:19:06pm

re: #346 Stanley Sea

Average price per acre for Texas was $4,849 in 2013.
per the Google.

For the Yam? I’d fight for 500K & hold it in court till kingdom come.

Yeah but this is flood prone pasture land. According to 2015 USDA guidelines the offer isn’t that far off base. Still hard to gauge without knowing the road access and how much river frontage adds to the mix.

Adverse possession should really require bonus payments that scale according to how long the parcel in question has been in the owner’s hands. That would fairly compensate people like this for having their family’s heritage fucked with without being abusable by short term speculators and inside traders.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:19:55pm

re: #307 bratwurst

Ecofascism: Hitler Would Have Been an Environmentalist

Hitler was a vegetarian, too!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:21:10pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:22:19pm

re: #353 ObserverArt

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Thanks for the reminder. I needed to post my own version!

Remember, White History Month runs from March 1st until Jan 31st…

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:24:54pm

re: #323 Myron Falwell

“Quintupling down on the stupid. It’s breathtaking.”

Why shouldn’t they since they’ve been doing it for almost 40 years and suffering no negative consequences for “quintupling down on the stupid.” Some of us have always found their attempts at selling their stupidity to America as breathtaking, but some others are only now seeing it for what it always was—-the peddling and selling of huge amounts of BS. The only difference between now and in the past is that their healthcare bill is being slammed from all sides, and the MSM is working to make sure that Americans know that 24 million of us will lose our healthcare if the bill passes. I wish the MSM would also focus more on this bill being another means of redistributing wealth/income from lower income to higher income Americans because I remember a few short years ago, the same tools who want to redistribute wealth with this bill considered it to be a very dirty, anti-American word, and evidence of a “push” toward socialism. These tools convinced millions of Americans that those of us who are willing and able to help other Americans were wrong to want to do so, but they have zero problems with pushing income from the bottom to the top. We won’t hear any of them mention redistribution of wealth/income. Not one. If they’re asked about whether their bill redistributes wealth from the bottom earners to the top earners, they’ll do what they usually do. They’ll lie.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:27:06pm

Breitbart/Bannon and Paul Ryan at present:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:28:16pm
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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:31:08pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:34:18pm

re: #363 teleskiguy

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Breitbart/Bannon and Paul Ryan at present:

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Yep idiots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:35:04pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:38:53pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

WW, thought you’d like this (I know RBS would if he was back from his very lengthy break):

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I have a customer who likes to say to me, ‘Bike mechanics make flight possible’. Or ‘made’, I’m not sure which.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:39:15pm

about those coal mining jobs the yam promised:

State safety inspectors wouldn’t inspect West Virginia’s coal mines anymore. They would conduct “compliance visits and education.”

Violations of health and safety standards wouldn’t produce state citations and fines, either. Mine operators would receive “compliance assistance visit notices.”

And West Virginia regulators wouldn’t have authority to write safety and health regulations. Instead, they could only “adopt policies … [for] improving compliance assistance” in the state’s mines.

Those and other significant changes in a new industry-backed bill would produce a wholesale elimination of most enforcement of longstanding laws and rules put in place over many years — as a result of hundreds of deaths — to protect the health and safety of West Virginia’s coal miners.

snip

One thing that is clear is that the bill would maintain and encourage the use of “individual personal assessments,” which target specific mine employees — rather than mine operators or coal companies — for violations, fines and, possibly, revocation of certifications or licenses needed to work in the industry. In addition, the requirement for four inspections every year for each underground coal mine would be reduced to one compliance assistance visit for each of those mines.

And, the bill would require that, by Aug. 31, the state rewrite all of its coal mine safety standards so that, instead of longstanding and separate state rules, mine operators would be responsible for following only U.S. Mine Safety and Health Administration regulations. The list of areas covered by this provision includes electrical standards, mine ventilation, roof control, safety examinations, dust control and explosives.

“It completely guts the state law,” said Josh Roberts, international health and safety director for the United Mine Workers union. “You’re taking back decades of laws.”

gaaaaahhhhhhh

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:39:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:41:27pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

about those coal mining jobs the yam promised:

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snip

gaaaaahhhhhhh

Sigh.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:41:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:42:14pm

The mines are bad enough when they are regulated and inspected and WV wants to cut the safety regulations? Jesus Christ.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:44:44pm

Mt. Washington Observatory in New Hampshire today. 110 m.p.h. wind gusts and snow falling at five inches/hour.

Here’s what 100 m.p.h. winds looks like.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:45:10pm

re: #330 FormerDirtDart

The date of this letter is Jan 12, 2017, and it cites a law passed in 2006. So on its face it is not related specifically to Trump’s version of the stupid fucking wall.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:45:44pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

The mines are bad enough when they are regulated and inspected and WV wants to cut the safety regulations? Jesus Christ.

Eliminating safety standards increases employment opportunities. It might take 3-4 miners to get through a single de-regulated 30-year career.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:48:03pm

re: #376 Decatur Deb

Eliminating safety standards increases employment opportunities. It might take 3-4 miners to get through a single de-regulated 30-year career.

There is no unemployment problem that Republicans cannot solve with machine guns.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:49:35pm

re: #377 EPR-radar

There is no unemployment problem that Republicans cannot solve with machine guns.

Tracer works both ways.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:49:55pm

re: #376 Decatur Deb

That entire shift of culpability to individual employees is…incredible and ridiculous.

I’m pretty sure I can hear the mining executives orgasming all the way in Kentucky.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:50:56pm

re: #374 teleskiguy

Mt. Washington Observatory in New Hampshire today. 110 m.p.h. wind gusts and snow falling at five inches/hour.

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He could get impaled by that flag pole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:51:39pm

Boston: A tractor-trailer spins out on the Zakim Bridge during Tuesday’s snowstorm. No one hurt. Latest: apne.ws (📹@MassDOT)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:51:59pm

re: #372 goddamnedfrank

I might be wrong but I do not think so. I thought it was Mr Carrier who invented A/C.
en.wikipedia.org

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:52:46pm

re: #379 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

That entire shift of culpability to individual employees is…incredible and ridiculous.

I’m pretty sure I can hear the mining executives orgasming all the way in Kentucky.

I wouldn’t much expect to see the real mine owners in Kentucky except at the Keeneland Spring Sales.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:53:28pm

re: #382 PhillyPretzel

I might be wrong but I do not think so. I thought it was Mr Carrier who invented A/C.
en.wikipedia.org

Alternately, Dr. Gorrie of Apalachicola, FL.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:54:22pm

re: #375 EPR-radar

The date of this letter is Jan 12, 2017, and it cites a law passed in 2006. So on its face it is not related specifically to Trump’s version of the stupid fucking wall.

Secure Fence Act of 2006 - that was the wingnut go-to when claiming that the gubmint already has the money to finance Trump’s wall, but Obama refused to do it.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:54:26pm

re: #384 Decatur Deb

He was mentioned in the Wiki article too.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:54:49pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:55:20pm

re: #386 PhillyPretzel

He was mentioned in the Wiki article too.

Local Hero for us.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:58:30pm

re: #305 SteelPH

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 3:58:44pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:00:41pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

Quite a few years ago when I was in Northeast High School a tractor trailer jackknifed on Cottman Ave in front of the school. There was only a little snow on the road but it was enough to make the truck slip. Needless to say the Philadelphia School System closed at noon.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:01:00pm

Assange is now spinning a yarn about an alleged Pence takeover. With Clinton’s help, no less. Sure, anything is possible. But it’s Assange.

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:01:52pm

Seems that Trump and Ryan are desperate not to have the healthcare mess named after them (Trumpcare/Ryancare). Says a lot really, especially with mister “Sticks His Name On Everything.”
Given this, the so-called healthcare plan should be given a name that involves them BOTH. Me, I’m thinking the Trump Ryan Initiative for Conservative Kleptocracy (TRICK)…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:02:51pm

re: #387 Nyet

Dumbassery knows no political affiliation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:03:22pm

re: #387 Nyet

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Nope, I’m usually reluctant to do both sides but left and right fall for CTs when it suits their agenda.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:03:32pm

re: #387 Nyet

How you think matters. It leavens what you think.

Conspiracists converge, regardless of declared ideology, because they share a thought process.

I’d further argue that conspiracists are primarily driven by a self-narrative in which they are heroes and victims for “speaking the truth.” Which explains the extreme ideological crossovers you see: if egoism is the priority, the worldview pivot isn’t significant as long as that feeling of importance is sustained.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:04:29pm

re: #396 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

How you think matters. It leavens what you think.

Conspiracists converge, regardless of declared ideology, because they share a thought process.

I’d further argue that conspiracists are primarily driven by a self-narrative in which they are heroes and victims for “speaking the truth.” Which explains the extreme ideological crossovers you see: if egoism is the priority, the worldview pivot isn’t significant as long as that feeling of importance is sustained.

As usual, you say it better than I can. I merely observe :).

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:04:33pm

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Nope, I’m usually reluctant to do both sides but left and right fall for CTs when it suits their agenda.

Left and Right tend to be stupid in different directions, but as has often been illustrated, the circle of derp always converges.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:04:47pm

re: #390 Nyet

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:05:28pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Watter’s World”? Decades ago Trump would only have been interviewed by two guys who ran a UHF channel out of their parent’s basement.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:05:46pm

re: #394 thedopefishlives

I see thousands lefties on twitter lapping up this stuff without *any* attempt at critical evaluation or verification. It is also heavily promoted by the principle-free hacks like Scott Dworkin (who now has 97K followers, so the “grift” works).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:05:49pm

re: #392 Nyet

Assange is now spinning a yarn about an alleged Pence takeover. With Clinton’s help, no less. Sure, anything is possible. But it’s Assange.

A Pence-for-Trump bait and switch move was floated quite early in the post-primary campaign.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:05:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:07:17pm

Hell I saw some of the worst CT stuff by the left in the Bush years. It’s why I stupidly thought I was more center than I actually am because those fools just embarrassed me to be a liberal.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:07:25pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Every pic of Ryan makes him look like he’s the doctor who just told you about your terminal cancer, but don’t worry because he’s having a great day.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:07:50pm

re: #401 Nyet

I see thousands lefties on twitter lapping up this stuff without *any* attempt at critical evaluation or verification. It is also heavily promoted by the principle-free hacks like Scott Dworkin (who now has 97K followers, so the “grift” works).

Thousands, certainly. It would take a decent controlled study to determine the L-R propensity though.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:09:14pm

re: #405 Skip Intro

YOU’VE GOT TERMINAL CANCER. NOW, THIS APPOINTMENT IS OVER, I’VE GOT A TEE TIME IN HALF AN HOUR.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:09:28pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

Hell I saw some of the worst CT stuff by the left in the Bush years. It’s why I stupidly thought I was more center than I actually am because those fools just embarrassed me to be a liberal.

BDS was definitely bad crazy for the left. Bush was no saint (and certainly no genius), but even now, I don’t think he deserves all of the vitriol flung at him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:10:05pm

re: #405 Skip Intro

Every pic of Ryan makes him look like he’s the doctor who just told you about your terminal cancer, but don’t worry because he’s having a great day.

You’ve got terminal cancer, Mr. Intro but I am running in the Boston Marathon this year, isn’t that great? But yeah cancer is bad. Oh well, I’d invite you for a run some time but you know cancer. Off to enjoy my earnings I get from my career that I was able to obtain because my father got suddenly sick and my college education was paid for in full.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:10:28pm

re: #408 thedopefishlives

BDS was definitely bad crazy for the left. Bush was no saint (and certainly no genius), but even now, I don’t think he deserves all of the vitriol flung at him.

The Presidential Asshole Standard has been re-calibrated.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:11:47pm
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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:12:00pm

re: #406 Decatur Deb

Thousands, certainly. It would take a decent controlled study to determine the L-R propensity though.

Well, I’m not saying they’re equal. I’m saying that those who think that the left is much better at this thing have no solid basis for this belief.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:12:33pm

re: #382 PhillyPretzel

I might be wrong but I do not think so. I thought it was Mr Carrier who invented A/C.
en.wikipedia.org

The car air conditioner was invented by 3 Jewish brothers. They sold their device to Henry Ford, but on the condition that he put their names on every vehicle in which it was installed.

Their names were Lo[u], Norm, and Max.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week! Tip your server!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:13:06pm

re: #408 thedopefishlives

BDS was definitely bad crazy for the left. Bush was no saint (and certainly no genius), but even now, I don’t think he deserves all of the vitriol flung at him.

Yeah I had BDS for Bush’s first term for sure. The thing that disturbed me was BDS leading people on the left to embrace people like Chavez and Lukashenko. Now the critical difference I’d say is that the Democratic rank and file never really did that to the extent the GOP rank and file did in the Obama years and the leadership especially did not. You did not see love for leftist regimes opposed to Bush from the Dem elected officials the way you did love for Putin and Assad from right wing ones. Sure, you did have the occassional Cynthia McKinney but I’d happily point out that McKinney has been gone from the Democratic Party in the House for a while now and isn’t even a Democrat anymore.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:13:22pm

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

The car air conditioner was invented by 3 Jewish brothers. They sold their device to Henry Ford, but on the condition that he put their names on every vehicle in which it was installed.

Their names were Lo[u], Norm, and Max.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week! Tip your server!

*WHACK!*

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:14:18pm

re: #412 Nyet

Well, I’m not saying they’re equal. I’m saying that those who think that the left is much better at this thing have no solid basis for this belief.

I think it’s because we want to believe our side is better. As I said, I hate doing the both sides thing but on CTs, that really is one thing that cannot be claimed one side has a monopoly or morally superiority on not engaging in. Vaccines used to be sort of like that to a degree too.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:14:26pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:14:31pm

re: #403 teleskiguy

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You’re good! You posted that before Asia Murphy retweeted it.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:14:35pm

re: #364 Dave In Austin

Needs more white babies.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:14:44pm

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

lol.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:15:05pm

He seriously has to go.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:16:14pm

To expand on my 414, in fact I very particularly remember Charlie Rangel who was no fan of the Bush administration telling Hugo Chavez off when he went after Bush. I think Rangel’s attitude was pretty much to the effect- Yes Bush is a bastard but he’s our bastard and we don’t want lectures from you on that.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:16:52pm

The GOP as a whole, unadulterated, and down to a “T”…
The good news is you get a phone call. The bad news is, there is nobody on the other end to pick up.

Please try again later….much later…

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:17:00pm

re: #421 Nyet

He seriously has to go.

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As a joke from one Soviet comedy goes:

- Wait, did I destroy the church too while I was drunk?
- No, it was done before you. In the 13th century.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:21:24pm

re: #328 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, I bet he’s got money pouring into his campaign fund right now…

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Here’s what King is really calling for.

Lebensborn e.V. (literally: “Fount of Life”) was an SS-initiated, state-supported, registered association in Nazi Germany with the goal of raising the birth rate of “Aryan” children via extramarital relations of persons classified as “racially pure and healthy” based on Nazi racial hygiene and health ideology (Children Of The Master Race).

en.wikipedia.org

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:21:46pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:23:20pm

re: #426 Nyet

The Trump-Putin Honeymoon Is Over, But the Marriage Was a Sham

Who gets custody of Flynn?

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:24:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:24:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:24:13pm
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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:24:20pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

Who gets custody of Flynn?

Dogs.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:24:48pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

Who gets custody of Flynn?

Win.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:10pm

re: #418 wrenchwench

You’re good! You posted that before Asia Murphy retweeted it.

I follow a lot of her biology tweeps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:17pm

re: #430 goddamnedfrank

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Ryan might have thick skin, but the yam never forgets an insult.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:35pm

re: #430 goddamnedfrank

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Basically, I was talking that way when I was afraid Trump would lose and ruin my party’s brand but it’s all good now since he won.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:36pm

re: #426 Nyet

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I can’t remember who it was, but there was an article in Foreign Policy that dealt with the reality that we’re seeing now: Putin was always going to betray Trump, it’s not only his nature but Russian nature to always be engaged against an “enemy” for which to blame all their problems. Eventually it didn’t matter much Trump played footsie with him, Putin would return to raging against America in order to keep the Russian people focused on an enemy he could “fight” for them.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:43pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

Hell I saw some of the worst CT stuff by the left in the Bush years. It’s why I stupidly thought I was more center than I actually am because those fools just embarrassed me to be a liberal.

My Bush derangement syndrome went pretty far. At the time I honestly thought the only reason he left office in 2009 according to normal processes is that having a GOP coup would be bad for business.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:25:59pm

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

KNEEL BEFORE YAM

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:26:24pm

re: #426 Nyet

They spell his last name Tramp. I find this amusing.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:26:38pm

re: #433 teleskiguy

I follow a lot of her biology tweeps.

Following and leading at the same time.

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steve_davis  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:26:45pm

re: #132 Sir John Barron

Oh, I bet Cotton and all the rest go along with it in the end.

that’s my position as well. I’ve lived through too much of this shit to have any faith that when McConnell rings the dinner bell, Cotton and Murkowski and Collins won’t come running to the trough to cast their party-line votes. Or maybe two of them will be allowed to peel off so that they can continue their bullshit “moderate” labeling.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:26:53pm

re: #437 EPR-radar

My Bush derangement syndrome went pretty far. At the time I honestly thought the only reason he left office in 2009 according to normal processes is that having a GOP coup would be bad for business.

If it makes you feel any better, I had a mild case of ODS during his campaign and the early days of his election. When he turned out not to be a complete bumbling moron, I gained some respect for him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:27:10pm

re: #437 EPR-radar

My Bush derangement syndrome went pretty far. At the time I honestly thought the only reason he left office in 2009 according to normal processes is that having a GOP coup would be bad for business.

I didn’t go that far. My BDS had settled down after Bush’s first term.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:27:19pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:27:21pm

re: #410 Decatur Deb

The Presidential Asshole Standard has been re-calibrated.

Re-calibrated is such a diplomatic way to say “disintegrated into subatomic particles”. I’ll have to remember that.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:27:46pm
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harlequinade  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:27:49pm

re: #348 nines09

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:28:16pm

re: #442 thedopefishlives

If it makes you feel any better, I had a mild case of ODS during his campaign and the early days of his election. When he turned out not to be a complete bumbling moron, I gained some respect for him.

I actually had the opposite happen with McCain. McCain WAS someone I respected but then his actions in the 2008 campaign really disappointed me. He showed that he was wiling to play the same old GOP cynical bullshit games.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:28:36pm

re: #436 Targetpractice

That’s the gist of the article. Nobody up there “really likes” Trump. Useful idiot.

The blackmail stuff/pee pee tape is probably all imagined in light of this turn.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:29:28pm

re: #448 HappyWarrior

I actually had the opposite happen with McCain. McCain WAS someone I respected but then his actions in the 2008 campaign really disappointed me. He showed that he was wiling to play the same old GOP cynical bullshit games.

I, for my part, actually kinda liked Sarah Palin as a vice-presidential pick… until she opened her mouth and let the word salad spew forth. I had no respect for John McCain (aside from his war service, that is), but I thought Obama was the greater of two evils there for a while.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:29:32pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:30:32pm

re: #317 Targetpractice

These dipshits can’t keep their talking points straight. One says “They won’t lose their insurance because they’ll have ‘better’ options,” but then the next declares that 24 million Americans don’t want health insurance after all so it won’t matter that they lose it.

Eight years to prepare and this scrambling for talking points is all they have.

This is Republican “leadership.” and policy making. Fail. Sad.

I guess they were so busy listening to the Fox-led media about all that hate for Obamacare they never figured out their trained wingnuts liked healthcare under the ACA.

That Republican echo chamber is pretty loud. Hard to hear the real world.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

re: #450 thedopefishlives

I, for my part, actually kinda liked Sarah Palin as a vice-presidential pick… until she opened her mouth and let the word salad spew forth. I had no respect for John McCain (aside from his war service, that is), but I thought Obama was the greater of two evils there for a while.

I found her intriguing mostly because it was a name I had never heard of before. I was always going to vote Obama- remember I am a lifelong lefty by and large but McCain seemed like he would be decent and then he started doing shit like that. I had respect for him since he had taken up opposition to torture and spoke personally on it and he had been a leading voice against the xenophobia on immigration in his party.

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:32:25pm

re: #451 Nyet

Wilders’ followers retweet Russian propaganda channel @RT_com more often than they retweet Dutch public broadcaster @NOS.

And this surprises who? Eurofascist doing his useful idiot part.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:32:40pm

You know, in a weird way, the Nirthers are actually kind of responsible for part of my political turnaround. Their dumbshit conspiracy theory actually turned me off of the ODS bandwagon. I was never about to be taken in by their nonsense, and realizing that was the first step to realizing that I’d been had by propaganda, and being able to evaluate the President on his own merits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:32:47pm

MrBWS is still in Detroit. They were told this morning they’ll probably be there until at least Thursday.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:33:16pm

re: #454 Jack Burton

Alternative facts from alternative news.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:33:22pm

re: #452 ObserverArt

Republican policy making is extremely simple — the plutocrats get everything, everyone else gets nothing.

What’s complicated is trying to sell this policy to voters.

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Scout  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:33:37pm

re: #437 EPR-radar

My Bush derangement syndrome went pretty far. At the time I honestly thought the only reason he left office in 2009 according to normal processes is that having a GOP coup would be bad for business.

I bought into one conspiracy theory (which I still pretty much believe); that he was getting coached through an earpiece during the debate with Kerry.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:34:22pm

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

The car air conditioner was invented by 3 Jewish brothers. They sold their device to Henry Ford, but on the condition that he put their names on every vehicle in which it was installed.

Their names were Lo[u], Norm, and Max.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week! Tip your server!

Rimshot

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:35:07pm

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MrBWS is still in Detroit. They were told this morning they’ll probably be there until at least Thursday.

We are just southwest of Ann Arbor and we’re in an unaffected island. But our neighbors and our family, further to the east, experienced really professional power work. That was an impressive storm response.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:35:09pm

re: #436 Targetpractice

“Eventually it didn’t matter much Trump played footsie with him, Putin would return to raging against America in order to keep the Russian people focused on an enemy he could “fight” for them.”

I read on yesterday that Talking Yam [TY] plans to ask Merkel about how to “deal” with Putin. I was shocked, shocked, I tells ya that TY, who claims to be very, very, smart and whose supporters describe him as being a “strong leader,” would ask anyone for help on foreign policy in regard to dealing with Putin or any other leader.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:35:44pm

re: #459 Scout

I bought into one conspiracy theory (which I still pretty much believe); that he was getting coached through an earpiece during the debate with Kerry.

I believe in some of the Reagan CTs i.e. the October Surprise. Given what I read Kissinger did with the Paris Negotiations. That just wouldn’t surprise me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:36:32pm

re: #462 majii

“Eventually it didn’t matter much Trump played footsie with him, Putin would return to raging against America in order to keep the Russian people focused on an enemy he could “fight” for them.”

I read on yesterday that Talking Yam [TY] plans to ask Merkel about how to “deal” with Putin. I was shocked, shocked, I tells ya that TY, who claims to be very, very, smart and whose supporters describe him as being a “strong leader,” would ask anyone for help on foreign policy in regard to dealing with Putin or any other leader.

Maybe instead of employing people like Flynn who sung Putin’s praises, he could have gotten some of those for his campaign.

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Moebym  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:36:34pm

Fuck Texas.

(State senate just passed an anti-trans bathroom bill.)

texastribune.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:36:39pm

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, they had “accents”.
:D

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:37:19pm

re: #465 Moebym

Fuck Texas.

texastribune.org

Agh.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:37:52pm

re: #462 majii

“Eventually it didn’t matter much Trump played footsie with him, Putin would return to raging against America in order to keep the Russian people focused on an enemy he could “fight” for them.”

I read on yesterday that Talking Yam [TY] plans to ask Merkel about how to “deal” with Putin. I was shocked, shocked, I tells ya that TY, who claims to be very, very, smart and whose supporters describe him as being a “strong leader,” would ask anyone for help on foreign policy in regard to dealing with Putin or any other leader.

But you now what? It’s good that he asks the right person, even if for all the wrong reasons. Merkel is the right person.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:38:25pm

re: #468 Nyet

But you now what? It’s good that he asks the right person, even if for all the wrong reasons. Merkel is the right person.

True that.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:38:49pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:39:24pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

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Oh, this should be GOOD.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:14pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

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Oooh my.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:15pm

re: #461 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

We are just southwest of Ann Arbor and we’re in an unaffected island. But our neighbors and our family, further to the east, experienced really professional power work. That was an impressive storm response.

MrBWS has been there since Thursday (3/9).
He’s cold, tired, cranky, and just wants to come home. He was very relieved to hear that the big storm in NE wasn’t as bad as expected (even though it’s pretty bad — but nowhere near one-million-customers-out bad like in Detroit and surrounding area).

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:21pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

Now for the million-dollar question: Did he give them over, or were they leaked? My money’s on a leak, and I imagine the yam must be absolutely enraged right now.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:34pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

Sure she does.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:40:49pm

re: #471 thedopefishlives

Check to see if they have been doctored.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:41:09pm

re: #476 PhillyPretzel

Check to see if they have been doctored.

Is it bad that this was my first thought?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:41:26pm

re: #476 PhillyPretzel

Check to see if they have been doctored.

Do a heat map.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:41:40pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

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I can’t help but be skeptical at this point.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:42:06pm

re: #447 harlequinade

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:42:13pm

re: #478 Decatur Deb

Do a heat map.

Is it the same as a barrel roll?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:42:27pm

re: #477 thedopefishlives

No. It has been a long time since the first request. Enough to make up a few things. Do we have any accountants in the room?

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(alpuz)  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:42:41pm

re: #478 Decatur Deb

Do a heat map.

If only we had the X-Rays!

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:42:52pm

re: #479 Targetpractice

“They’re from Herman Trump of Snake’s Navel AZ, but they’ll give us a look into how a Trump does taxes”.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:43:20pm

re: #468 Nyet

“But you now what? It’s good that he asks the right person, even if for all the wrong reasons. Merkel is the right person.

Yes, she is, but what irks the hell out of me is how he sold the BS that he knows everything about everything to millions of American voters. I was aghast at seeing so many gullible people in this country. They bought what my dearly departed parents would have called, “A pig in a poke” and were as happy to vote for him as hogs are when they’re rolling around in mud.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:43:57pm

re: #477 thedopefishlives

Is it bad that this was my first thought?

Nope, not at all.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:44:22pm

re: #481 Nyet

Is it the same as a barrel roll?

Frankie Yankovic & The Yanks Beer Barrel Polka

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:44:35pm

re: #485 majii

“But you now what? It’s good that he asks the right person, even if for all the wrong reasons. Merkel is the right person.

Yes, she is, but what irks the hell out of me is how he sold the BS that he knows everything about everything to millions of American voters. I was aghast at seeing so many gullible people in this country. They bought what my dearly departed parents would have called, “A pig in a poke” and were as happy to vote for him as hogs are when they’re rolling around in mud.

I know more than the generals!

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:44:36pm

re: #485 majii

*insert the Blazing Saddles fragment*

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Moebym  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:45:30pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

FINALLY. This is going to be interesting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:45:32pm

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

MrBWS is still in Detroit. They were told this morning they’ll probably be there until at least Thursday.

Power is back on to all customers except for 7000 on the East Side of Detroit where there was severe damage from fallen lines and a transformer that was destroyed when two poles cracked in half.

Thanks to Mr. BWS and all his hard work!

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:47:20pm

If Maddow’s not bullshitting us and they are authentic returns, then I question why they’d take the chance that somebody else might get the jump on the story first. An hour is a long time in breaking news.

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:47:35pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Double checked, supplies appear to be in order.
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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:47:44pm

re: #474 thedopefishlives

“…and I imagine the yam must be absolutely enraged right now.”

If I were a betting person, I’d place a $1,000 bet on profferred estimates as to how long it will take him to tweet about it. After Rachel drops this bomb tonight, whoever is holding his phone will have to return it to him because he’s not one to let what he perceives to be a slight pass without commenting on it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:49:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:49:24pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:49:32pm

re: #446 Charles Johnson

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:49:47pm

re: #492 Targetpractice

If Maddow’s not bullshitting us and they are authentic returns, then I question why they’d take the chance that somebody else might get the jump on the story first. An hour is a long time in breaking news.

Plus she’ll take 55 minutes just getting the setup out of the way. I call BS, because if real Trump would have already been on the phone to NBC telling them to kill the story or he’ll pull their broadcast license.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:50:57pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:52:25pm

re: #498 Skip Intro

Plus she’ll take 55 minutes just getting the setup out of the way. I call BS, because if real Trump would have already been on the phone to NBC telling them to kill the story or he’ll pull their broadcast license.

We’ll see. For something like this, NBC might even find their spine and make a threatening call from Trump part of the story.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:52:36pm

re: #498 Skip Intro

We’ll know soon enough. Hopefully it’s not another Rather moment. Could also be that there’s nothing explosive there.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:52:57pm

Heard from the Oval Office: “Bring me my brown pants!”

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InfidelOfFreedom  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:53:11pm

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ivanka Trump? Tiffany? I dunno… This better be what they are implying or they will have hell to pay from every direction.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:53:19pm

re: #496 Backwoods_Sleuth

The RW response will be, “Those are fakes!”
And, after they say this “x” number of times, they’ll consider the matter settled.
Incurious persons who permit others to do their thinking for them, yet, they truly believe they’re superior to every other human on the planet.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:55:16pm

I rather doubt this is gonna be an Al Capone’s vault, I think Maddow is smarter than that. But I would not be surprised if we witness another Memogate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:55:18pm

and the campaign continues:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:56:17pm

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the campaign continues:

[Embedded content]

Over and under how many times he brags about winning Michigan when no one thought he would.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:56:38pm

I hope Maddow is right, but it did get Drudge’s blaring siren, LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:56:57pm
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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 4:59:05pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:00:27pm

re: #509 Skip Intro

The Twitter responses to Rachel’s announcement are a major reason I love the Twitter.

Now if they could actually just find the time to care about the fact that Nazis seem to love it too…

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:00:35pm

re: #509 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

Where are they hiding Tupac? He hasn’t released a new album in awhile!

//

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:01:23pm

re: #489 Nyet

*insert the Blazing Saddles fragment*

Totally going to watch that tonight.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:13pm

re: #500 EPR-radar

We’ll see. For something like this, NBC might even find their spine and make a threatening call from Trump part of the story.

That was my thought. Drumpf has trashed the media enough, it’s only a matter of time until somebody finds their ballsack and breaks the story of a lifetime on his ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:15pm
This tiny dog picked out the biggest toy in the store — and she’s carrying it to the car ALL BY HERSELF.
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:35pm

re: #510 Nyet

[Embedded content]

Hahahaha.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:44pm

re: #501 Nyet

We’ll know soon enough. Hopefully it’s not another Rather moment. Could also be that there’s nothing explosive there.

I suspect it will probably amount to another piece of evidence. Probably nothing that, on its own, would take Trump down. But it will probably validate a number of things and tie a few more things together.

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Major Tom  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:02:45pm

re: #470 Charles Johnson

Fasten Your Seatbelts

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:03:19pm

Lou Dobbs calls for Paul Ryan to resign, saying he’s accomplished “next to nothing” in his entire career.

It makes me happy when people I despise are mad at each other.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:03:19pm

re: #517 HappyWarrior

Hahahaha.

Everything is perfect about it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:03:34pm

re: #487 Decatur Deb

[Embedded content]

Video

Wow that is some real white people music!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:04:05pm

re: #521 Nyet

Everything is perfect about it.

I know. My favorite part was Spongebob and Patrick.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:04:38pm

re: #520 bratwurst

Lou Dobbs calls for Paul Ryan to resign, saying he’s accomplished “next to nothing” in his entire career.

It makes me happy when people I despise are mad at each other.

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:04pm

re: #519 Major Tom

[Embedded content]

That scene never gets old.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:26pm

re: #497 teleskiguy

I though @jack said he was going to fix things, like a month or so ago.

You failed again, @jack.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:47pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

Wow that is some real white people music!

Pittsburgh Sabbath vespers.

Try this:

Mighty Sam McClain - When The Hurt Is Over

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:06:26pm

re: #526 Skip Intro

I though @jack said he was going to fix things, like a month or so ago.

You failed again, @jack.

You don’t know @jack. /

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:06:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:07:11pm
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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:07:33pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

Wow that is some real white people music!

That bandleader had a kid. A weird kid.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:07:46pm

re: #476 PhillyPretzel

Check to see if they have been doctored.

If she’s releasing something, I would guess they’ve been sitting in legal for over a week.

I hope.

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:08:04pm

re: #510 Nyet

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:08:48pm

re: #532 Stanley Sea

If she’s releasing something, I would guess they’ve been sitting in legal for over a week.

I hope.

Yeah, but let’s not forget the Throbbing Memo of yore. Anything could happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:09:23pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:18:12pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

about those coal mining jobs the yam promised:

[Embedded content]

snip

gaaaaahhhhhhh

If the mine collapses and you are dead and buried in coal, you can at least be happy we got your job back.

Thank a Republican…you and your miner buddies voted for ‘em.

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:21:29pm
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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:23:49pm

re: #520 bratwurst

“Lou Dobbs calls for Paul Ryan to resign, saying he’s accomplished “next to nothing” in his entire career.”

Lou Dobbs and others on the Right who are railing against the GOP healthcare bill need to Shut Up. They’re the reason RW members of Congress started that “repeal and replace” mess in the first place. Instead of informing RW Americans about what was actually in the PPACA, Dobbs and his buddies decided that because Dems passed the bill and a Dem president signed it into law, it was not legitimate from the start. They riled up the nuts, promised them rainbows , lollipops, and a pony, and now that they can’t deliver on what they promised, they’ve become head-hunters. Let them eat each other alive. I’m going to get immense pleasure from seeing them turn on each other. They’re reaping the consequences of their relentless campaign of lying, propaganda and conspiracy theory peddling, and BSing. They were so sure that if they had control of Congress and the WH, it would be smooth sailing all the way. It’s not looking like that for them since Ryan unloaded a huge pile of healthcare BS on the nation and is calling it terrific. If Dobbs doesn’t know Ryan has always been a media creation, he’s pitiful. If he ever possessed any enduring principles and/or values, he sold them to the GOP a long, long time ago.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:53:33pm

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, they had “accents”.
:D

[Embedded content]

They were probably from Ohio.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:56:02pm

re: #481 Nyet

Is it the same as a barrel roll?

We’ll have barrels of fun!


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