The Bob Cesca Show: Jody on the Show

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Jody On The Show: Jody Hamilton joins us for the hour; 26 million Americans will lose healthcare under GOP bill; Paul Ryan loves the CBO report for some reason; Our healthcare nightmares; Trump and the debt ceiling; Kellyanne Conway thinks Obama used transforming microwaves et cetera; 46 federal prosecutors fired; Fox News was being investigated by Preet Bharara; Carol Burnett stories from the old days; and more.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:04:12pm

Rachel better be right about this.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:04:34pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:07pm

We’ll know if Maddow has the goods by whether or not Trump finds his smartphone.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:05:08pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

Rachel better be right about this.

I suspect it will probably fall closer to “nothingburger” than “bombshell” on the scale, but I think Drumpf’s reaction will be worth it all.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:06:45pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:07:14pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

Rachel better be right about this.

The responses to her tweet are absoulute gold.

My favorite so far:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:08:24pm

Lawrence O’Donnell co-signed.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:09:08pm

re: #4 thedopefishlives

I suspect it will probably fall closer to “nothingburger” than “bombshell” on the scale, but I think Drumpf’s reaction will be worth it all.

I’m hoping for something among the lines of this, PR-wise….

ConeHead Firework

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:10:30pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:10:51pm

re: #4 thedopefishlives

I suspect it will probably fall closer to “nothingburger” than “bombshell” on the scale, but I think Drumpf’s reaction will be worth it all.

The most damage that’s occurred to this regime thus far has been of the self-inflicted variety.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:11:04pm

Heard from the White House press office:

The Office- Michael Scott No God No

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:11:18pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

We going to have a thread for this? This could get veeeeery interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:11:21pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:12:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:13:50pm
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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:14:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:14:58pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:15:10pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:15:34pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Breaking a big story” does not equal “We have Trump’s taxes”.

Hope I’m wrong, but I think everybody is just getting played again.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:17:32pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Heard from the White House press office:

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:17:54pm

Point:

Josh Marshall ✔ @joshtpm

If her show has them, it’s because they got them directly. Not to NBC news. No question.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:18:04pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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I always tell em if they don’t want us to call them racist, they shouldn’t be racist. Despite what many conservatives, we don’t believe all conservatives are racists but I certainly do believe American conservative ideology lends itself to racism more easily than American liberal ideology.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:18:16pm

Nights like this I wish I hadn’t cancelled cable.

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b.d.  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:18:48pm

If Rachel does have Trump’s taxes he’s going to lock her up until she spills the beans about who gave them to her, followed by a Bostonesque nationwide manhunt…

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:20:31pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:20:52pm

re: #24 b.d.

Plot twist: Rachel broadcasting tonight from Ecuador

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:21:01pm

One wet blanket:

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And one crude giggle:

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:21:35pm

re: #25 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:21:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:21:53pm

How I’m learning more Spanish. Reading the comments on my brother’s MIL Facebook for my niece’s birthday. There’s a lot of words for beautiful in Espanol.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:22:31pm

re: #23 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Nights like this I wish I hadn’t cancelled cable.

I’m okay. I have you guys. Also the rest of my bourbon and a plate of summer sausage and cheese.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:22:40pm

re: #24 b.d.

If Rachel does have Trump’s taxes he’s going to lock her up until she spills the beans about who gave them to her, followed by a Bostonesque nationwide manhunt…

Conversely, there are no shortage of people he and Bannon have ripped and defamed.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:23:25pm

Get ready to be underwhelmed:

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:23:41pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it is only one, that makes me think its more credible, not less.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:23:46pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:25:07pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have a popcorn popper. The CIA can suck it.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:25:26pm

re: #33 bratwurst

Get ready to be underwhelmed:

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I already was. One “return” from 17 12 years ago.

I guess they didn’t have another Bernie campaign rally lined up for tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:26:07pm
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(alpuz)  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:26:12pm

re: #36 thedopefishlives

I have a popcorn popper. The CIA can suck it.

Still rolling with the Stir-Crazy over here.

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ipsos  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:26:59pm

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:27:39pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

So what she has is nothing, but they played it just like Fox would have. I guess they’re learning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:28:43pm

re: #41 Skip Intro

So what she has is nothing, but they played it just like Fox would have. I guess they’re learning.

Guess it all depends on what is in the return.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:29:06pm

I love Rachel in small doses. I hope she’s not setting herself up. David Cay Johnson is on, and he has the longest record of documenting Trump’s shady behavior, so there’s that.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:29:33pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a 1040. Trump says he made $150 million.

So what?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:29:36pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck … the 1040 is useless by itself. Goddamnit Rachel.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:30:06pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Fuck … the 1040 is useless by itself. Goddamnit Rachel.

Eggszactly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:30:17pm

I used to like the methodical way she builds things up, but eventually the repetition got to me.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:31:23pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

I used to like the methodical way she builds things up, but eventually the repetition got to me.

It sounds like the build up to this is going to spill over onto O’Donnell’s show.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:31:56pm
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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:32:19pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Fuck … the 1040 is useless by itself. Goddamnit Rachel.

re: #46 Skip Intro

Eggszactly.

What about a 1040 with supporting documentation?

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:32:50pm

re: #33 bratwurst

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m keeping my expectations low and just let this play out. If someone is starting to leak this stuff out now, that means this could be only the beginning…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:33:03pm

Rachel has been seriously pushing the Trump-Russia links lately.
What was the yam doing in 2005?
Oh…

…in 2005, signing a one-year development deal with a small company called the BayRock Group to develop a hotel project in Moscow.

motherjones.com

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:33:03pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

“I always tell em if they don’t want us to call them racist, they shouldn’t be racist. Despite what many conservatives, we don’t believe all conservatives are racists but I certainly do believe American conservative ideology lends itself to racism more easily than American liberal ideology.”

When a member of Congress like Steve King makes openly racist comments and they say nothing, or say something mild like, “I don’t agree with him,” what is America to think about GOPers and racism? I say they support it because they aren’t responding strongly to someone who is a member of their party and a member of Congress. One doesn’t have to explicitly express racist sentiments to be a racist. For me, a part of being a racist is not objecting to racist things others say in your party’s/country’s name.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:33:39pm

This might be bigger news, TBH

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:33:48pm

re: #27 bratwurst

Sorta agree with Cohn - no promises of a sensation from the actual content, only the fact that they found them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:35:20pm

re: #53 majii

“I always tell em if they don’t want us to call them racist, they shouldn’t be racist. Despite what many conservatives, we don’t believe all conservatives are racists but I certainly do believe American conservative ideology lends itself to racism more easily than American liberal ideology.”

When a member of Congress like Steve King makes openly racist comments and they say nothing, or say something mild like, “I don’t agree with him,” what is America to think about GOPers and racism? I say they support it because they aren’t responding strongly to someone who is a member of their party and a member of Congress. One doesn’t have to explicitly express racist sentiments to be a racist. For me, a part of being a racist is not objecting to racist things others say in your party’s/country’s name.

Steve King’s recent double or let’s call it a triple down about race war between Hispanics and African-Americans really pissed me off. As you know, my niece is Hispanic. Her Godfather is also African-American, my brother’s best friend. I am just sick of these racist assholes. It’s even more frustrating that a lot of them like King have real political power. King is the chair of an important Judiciary committee subcommittee I believe. Ryan “condemns” his comments but King’s not going anywhere.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:35:31pm

Heh

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:35:51pm

re: #33 bratwurst

Get ready to be underwhelmed:

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So in other words, Maddow is a walking, talking clickbait?

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:35:52pm

re: #50 Teukka

What about a 1040 with supporting documentation?

My tax returns are relatively simple. My supporting documentation comes in at around 100 pages.

How many pages do you think Trump’s do? She said she has the 1040, nothing else.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:36:04pm

re: #54 A wild WITHAK appeared!

After the BS Comey pulled a few days before the November 2016 presidential election about HRC’s emails, I don’t want to hear anything the self-serving tool has to say.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:36:05pm

re: #50 Teukka

What about a 1040 with supporting documentation?

Sure, but she said “1040 form,” not “complete return.” Seems to me she’s already lowering expectations.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:36:41pm

re: #54 A wild WITHAK appeared!

This might be bigger news, TBH

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:37:23pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:37:52pm

re: #62 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who thinks were just getting fucked with now? If so I’ll shut up and go away.

We’ve been in that position since November 9th at least.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:38:20pm

A one-year return from 2005? That’s what Maddow has?

Okay. That’s better than nothing, but it’s hardly Trump’s returns (plural).

It could shed some light on the whole NOL business, as we can see how that original NOL amount has drawn down to that point and what remains for future years.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:38:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:39:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:00pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

Her twin sister should be outside the White House …

There’d be a lot more bull there to face down.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:07pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:35pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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hey look ma a conservative moron who thinks he’s original by calling people beta and cuck.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:40:56pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

Of course they could end it all by releasing ALL of his taxes. But they won’t.

It’s a continuous self-inflicted wound.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:41:11pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:41:19pm

re: #65 lawhawk

A one-year return from 2005? That’s what Maddow has?

Okay. That’s better than nothing, but it’s hardly Trump’s returns (plural).

It could shed some light on the whole NOL business, as we can see how that original NOL amount has drawn down to that point and what remains for future years.

No, that’s not what she has. She has a 1040. Lots of luck learning much just from that.

Anyway, Trump just took all the wind out of Maddow’s sails by revealing exactly what she has.

Nice fail, MSNBC. The last thing you managed to do successfully was to help get Trump elected. You’ll always have to cherish.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:41:36pm

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:41:50pm

re: #72 Teukka

Now, suppose the Maddow & Co knew this WH response was coming, and was playing to get them to do what they just did?

I think that’s too devious by half.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:42:14pm

This may not be the great Trump Tax Return Bombshell we’ve been hoping for, but if this stuff is starting to leak out it could be the beginning.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:42:38pm

re: #64 Myron Falwell

We’ve been in that position since November 9th at least.

Yet we never learn. It’s Lucy with the football, every single day.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:43:04pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:43:18pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

This may not be the great Trump Tax Return Bombshell we’ve been hoping for, but if this stuff is starting to leak out it could be the beginning.

Co-sign.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:44:55pm

25.33% tax rate.

I’m old enough to remember when such things were scandalous

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:06pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:07pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

hey look ma a conservative moron who thinks he’s original by calling people beta and cuck.

Check out this alpha, yo!

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:46pm

So, by 2005 he had used up ALL of the $916 million carryover loss from 1995 AND all of the other losses during the same 10 years?

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:45:49pm

Seconds!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:46:24pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:46:52pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

You know you are desperate when you issue a knee-jerk response to a breaking news story without even waiting to hear the whole piece.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:47:21pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

Check out this alpha, yo!

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:47:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:47:38pm

$38 million dollars.

So many dollars he had to say it TWICE

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:47:42pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, by 2005 he had used up ALL of the $916 million carryover loss from 1995 AND all of the other losses during the same 10 years?

What Maddow has just done is to help Trump by showing that yes, he did/does pay taxes.

Nice job, Rachel. When do you start at RT?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:47:49pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, by 2005 he had used up ALL of the $916 million carryover loss from 1995 AND all of the other losses during the same 10 years?

And this is the same guy telling less well off Americans that they need to “save”. Fuck this guy.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:48:01pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

You know you are desperate when you issue a knee-jerk response to a breaking news story without even waiting to hear the whole piece.

Just hoping they fumbled.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:48:03pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

You know you are desperate when you issue a knee-jerk response to a breaking news story without even waiting to hear the whole piece.

Well, they’d have been asked for a comment, so they may well know enough. Plus they’re trying to pee on the parade.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:48:33pm

re: #89 Kragar

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:48:55pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Giancarlo Stanton is better at what he does than Trump too.

And Stanton gets hurt every season.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:49:49pm

I wouldn’t take Trump’s statement that he paid $38M at face value just yet. Remember, he lies like a rug.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:50:38pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

You know you are desperate when you issue a knee-jerk response to a breaking news story without even waiting to hear the whole piece.

It’s a laughably sad attempt at discrediting the source.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:51:26pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t take Trump’s statement that he paid $38M at face value just yet. Remember, he lies like a rug.

Exactly.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:51:27pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:52:05pm

re: #72 Teukka

Now, suppose the Maddow & Co knew this WH response was coming, and was playing to get them to do what they just did?

A bully is many things, but most of all, a bully is incredibly predictable.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:52:36pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t take Trump’s statement that he paid $38M at face value just yet. Remember, he lies like a rug.

It’d take some serious brass to lie explicitly about the contents of his tax return… but considering that this comes from the guy who invented “alternative facts”, it wouldn’t surprise me to push his own version of reality even lacking any substantive evidence.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:52:37pm

re: #101 Myron Falwell

A bully is many things, but most of all, a bully is incredibly predictable.

My point exactly.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:52:45pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:53:06pm

re: #27 bratwurst

One wet blanket:

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And one crude giggle:

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Like I said last thread, this won’t be something that takes down Trump, but confirms a number of things, ties some things together, and shows just how much he’s under Russian control. Until Republicans decide to do something, it’s just facts.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:53:35pm

re: #96 Ace Rothstein

And Stanton gets hurt every season.

Which is a shame. He’s so fun to watch.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:55:05pm

This guy has cemented his legendary status.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:55:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:57:30pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:57:32pm

re: #71 Myron Falwell

Of course they could end it all by releasing ALL of his taxes. But they won’t.

It’s a continuous self-inflicted wound.

Trump and I agree on exactly one thing: whatever is in Trump’s taxes is more damaging to him than the damage from never showing them.

Going forward, no Republican POTUS candidate will ever release their taxes. It’s the new normal.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:59:28pm

re: #89 Kragar

re: #95 HappyWarrior

re: #96 Ace Rothstein

And @jaykirell is a moron.
Stanton is in a 13 year, $325M contract.
He’s earning $14.5M for 2017
Sure, he’s got some endorsement deals. But, probably not another $135.5M a year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:59:34pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:59:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 5:59:48pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

Trump and I agree on exactly one thing: whatever is in Trump’s taxes is more damaging to him than the damage from never showing them.

Going forward, no Republican POTUS candidate will ever release their taxes. It’s the new normal.

The messed up thing. The candidate everyone called crooked was by far the most transparent candidate in either party that showed them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

and here we go…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:00:42pm

re: #115 Kragar

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Why don’t you just leave your wife for Trump already, Sean? It’s obvious that you think every bit of criticism is a “jihad”, whatever that stupid shit means. Get your head out of his asshole for once.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:01:17pm

re: #115 Kragar

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Butthurt much, Sean baby?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:01:46pm

It’s important to note that the actual shells of actual bombs are not, in themselves, explosive.

Well, maybe not important. But interesting.

Well, maybe not interesting. But definitely pedantic. And that’s who we are!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:02pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

Butthurt much, Sean baby?

You’ll have to excuse him. He gets real upset when people criticize his Daddy.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:02pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

Trump and I agree on exactly one thing: whatever is in Trump’s taxes is more damaging to him than the damage from never showing them.

Going forward, no Republican POTUS candidate will ever release their taxes. It’s the new normal.

Which is why I support a law requiring all federal office candidates - President, VP, and Congress - to release at least the 5 most recent returns in order to run for office.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:09pm

wheeeee…

Tax returns in a minute…bitching in two…denials in three…dancing in four.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:02:36pm

re: #122 Belafon

Which is why I support a law requiring all federal office candidates - President, VP, and Congress - to release at least the 5 most recent returns in order to run for office.

Indeed, if you’re going to make tax policy for the rest of us, you should have to disclose your own.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:02pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

You’ll have to excuse him. He gets real upset when people criticize his Daddy.

Do people do that a lot?

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:13pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Why don’t you just leave your wife for Trump already, Sean? It’s obvious that you think every bit of criticism is a “jihad”, whatever that stupid shit means. Get your head out of his asshole for once.

That’s a cruel suggestion. The capacious interior of Trump’s enormous ass is Lumpy’s safe space.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:21pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

Butthurt much, Sean baby?

It’s all-hands-on-deck Operation DARVO for Team Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:03:48pm

re: #105 Belafon

Like I said last thread, this won’t be something that takes down Trump, but confirms a number of things, ties some things together, and shows just how much he’s under Russian control. Until Republicans decide to do something, it’s just facts.

It makes the GOP rank-and-file complicit in the crime.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:04:03pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

Do people do that a lot?

Yeah, the big old media bullies do! What I seriously love is when Hannity and FNC as a whole whine about the media while at the same time claiming to be “the number one news”. WE HATE THE MEDIA BUT WE ALSO HAVE TONS OF VIEWERS.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:04:22pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

It’s all-hands-on-deck Operation DARVO for Team Fuckface Von Clownstick.

So, another day ending in -y.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:04:38pm

re: #127 EPR-radar

That’s a cruel suggestion. The capacious interior of Trump’s enormous ass is Lumpy’s safe space.

Ha indeed!

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:06:10pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

Going forward, no Republican POTUS Kommisar candidate will ever release their taxes. It’s the new normal.

Modified for accuracy.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:06:11pm

If if this set of tax returns is so-so, showing that he’s a not-so-wealthy snob that gets away with things the rest of us can’t, getting Trump all bent out of shape is worth it.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:06:35pm

Never mind…

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:06:44pm

Argh, already 3:00 AM here. Calling it, hopefully the popcorn will still be nice and crunchy when i wake up and see what’s what. Good night folks, have fun surfing the interwebs!

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:07:08pm

re: #135 makeitstop

A friend posts on FB. I love this…

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Whatever it was, it’s gone already…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:07:10pm

re: #134 Belafon

If if this set of tax returns is so-so, showing that he’s a not-so-wealthy snob that gets away with things the rest of us can’t, getting Trump all bent out of shape is worth it.

That’s my thought. The real bombshell here isn’t the tax return, in and of itself. It’s the fact that 1) she has it, and 2) it makes Drumpf look bad, thus enraging the talking yam. Which is absolutely awesomesauce.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:07:57pm

re: #137 Archangelus

Whatever it was, it’s gone already…

This was it.

Somewhere above the snow covered streets of Manhattan, Marla Maples lights candles, pours a glass of white wine, settles into the sofa and whispers, “It begins.”

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:08:08pm

re: #135 makeitstop

I think your friends’ privacy settings aren’t set for this post to be viewed publicly.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:08:28pm

re: #139 Dr. Matt

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:08:41pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

Of course, he’s butthurt. In Hannity World no one criticizes the Talking Yam. He has his tongue firmly planted in the TY’s butt crack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:08:53pm

re: #139 Dr. Matt

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He should have released the return instead of some vague “info” if he really wanted to squash this.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:13pm

Rachel is doing her usual wind-up, as Twitter freaks the fuck out.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:14pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

I think your friends’ privacy settings aren’t set for this post to be viewed publicly.

I grabbed the quote, it’s at #140.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:37pm

re: #143 majii

Of course, he’s butthurt. In Hannity World no one criticizes the Talking Yam. He has his tongue firmly planted in the TY’s butt crack.

He was ready and willing to criticize Obama for every damn little thing including what he put on his burger but he can never bring himself to ever criticize Trump. Pretty funny since he loves to accuse the rest of the media of fawning over Obama.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:09:51pm

Nobody tweeting “THIS IS IT!!!!”

Hmmmmm.

I sense a powerful nonchalance in the force, as if a million viewers had sighed and changed the channel….

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:10:38pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Rachel is doing her usual wind-up, as Twitter freaks the fuck out.

That’s why I’m not tuning in. Frank once described her windup perfectly, something about meandering across continents.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:12:24pm

re: #150 makeitstop

That’s why I’m not tuning in. Frank once described her windup perfectly, something about meandering across continents.

Continental drift moves faster than Maddow. On the other hand, Continental drift isn’t selling advertising.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:12:58pm

re: #138 thedopefishlives

“The real bombshell here isn’t the tax return, in and of itself. It’s the fact that 1) she has it, and 2) it makes Drumpf look bad, thus enraging the talking yam.”

I mentioned in the last thread that there is no way Trump permits what he views as a personal slight to go past him and have him ignore it. The proof of this is that he issued a statement before TRMS began. Guy has serious issues with self-control. It is indeed awesomesauce.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:03pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:38pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:46pm

re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White

Nobody tweeting “THIS IS IT!!!!”

Hmmmmm.

I sense a powerful nonchalance in the force, as if a million viewers had sighed and changed the channel….

If This Is It

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:13:59pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

Continental drift moves faster than Maddow. On the other hand, Continental drift isn’t selling advertising.

It doesn’t need to….

“Coming in a couple million years, to a Northern California near you - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!!”

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:14:23pm

re: #150 makeitstop

That’s why I’m not tuning in. Frank once described her windup perfectly, something about meandering across continents.

I think this will be a nothingburger, unless they have returns from multiple years and will report on one year every few days, starting with the most harmless years and working up from there.

Yes, I am officially clapping for Tinkerbell here.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:14:30pm

Hm, she could have baited him by saying she had his most recent returns.

“PAY NO ATTENTION TO THOSE PAYMENTS FROM RUSSIA, THEY’RE NOTHING!”

“What payments are those, Donny? I just said we have your RETURNS. You know, from Macy’s Customer Service counter…”

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:14:53pm

re: #152 majii

“The real bombshell here isn’t the tax return, in and of itself. It’s the fact that 1) she has it, and 2) it makes Drumpf look bad, thus enraging the talking yam.”

I mentioned on the last thread that there is no way Trump permits what he views as a personal slight to go past him and have him ignore it. The proof of this is that he issued a statement before TRMS began. Guy has serious issues with self-control. It is indeed awesomesauce.

Anything that pisses him off makes me happy. Nothingburger or not. Although to be fair, I won’t abide fake news even if it does make Drumpf angry.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:15:29pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

I agree. She knows she has an unusually large audience for this, and she’s bringing them all up to speed on the most important issues about this astoundingly corrupt administration.

I want to see what she has, too, but I understand why she’s going into detail about the back story.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:15:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:16:07pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:16:23pm

The Left complains there isn’t enough liberal/progressives voices on TV while simultaneously throwing the few liberal/progressive voices under the bus. See Olbermann of yesteryears and Maddow of today. SMH.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:16:41pm

re: #157 EPR-radar

I think this will be a nothingburger, unless they have returns from multiple years and will report on one year every few days, starting with the most harmless years and working up from there.

Yes, I am officially clapping for Tinkerbell here.

If that is the case, then her showrunners will have pulled off the ultimate hat trick.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:17:11pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:17:34pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

I agree. She knows she has an unusually large audience for this, and she’s bringing them all up to speed on the most important issues about this astoundingly corrupt administration.

I want to see what she has, too, but I understand why she’s going into detail about the back story.

If it is causing Trump heartburn I’ll be glad.

Who knows where this is going, but she may be forcing Trump’s hand to respond.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:17:34pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:17pm

re: #168 Kragar

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:23pm

re: #164 Dr. Matt

The Left complains there isn’t enough liberal/progressives voices on TV while simultaneously throwing the few liberal/progressive voices under the bus. See Olbermann of yesteryears and Maddow of today. SMH.

Don’t get me wrong, she does good work. Her pace, however, is glacial, and I’m an impatient person.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:18:29pm

re: #164 Dr. Matt

The Left complains there isn’t enough liberal/progressives voices on TV while simultaneously throwing the few liberal/progressive voices under the bus. See Olbermann of yesteryears and Maddow of today. SMH.

We have seen the enemy. And he is us!

Been that way for a long time. It got Trump elected too.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:19:21pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

We have seen the enemy. And he is us!

Been that way for a long time. It got Trump elected too.

Rinse.Lather.Repeat

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:19:29pm

Lord, talk about burying the lede.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:19:35pm

re: #155 Myron Falwell

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Love that song!

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:32pm

re: #171 makeitstop

Don’t get me wrong, she does good work. Her pace, however, is glacial, and I’m an impatient person.

Damn guitarists!

I know your kind…

: ) ex-roadie…now playing guitar too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:40pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

“Bartniki v Whopper”?

That sounds like a lot more interesting case than it probably was.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:41pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

I’d block him just for the screen name that screams “curtain jerker” pro-wrestler.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:42pm

All I can say is patience. While some of Maddow’s openings can drag, she connects the dots and it needs to be done.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:20:50pm

re: #164 Dr. Matt

The Left complains there isn’t enough liberal/progressives voices on TV while simultaneously throwing the few liberal/progressive voices under the bus. See Olbermann of yesteryears and Maddow of today. SMH.

Explaining stuff takes time. There’s just no way around that. I’m sure the Rachel Maddow show would seem painfully slow to me as the case for this or that bit of Republican malfeasance is laid out in detail.

But long ago I determined that Republicans are all agents of Satan, so I’m not in the audience that needs to see the case against Republicans.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:21:09pm

There was really a Supreme Court case called ‘Bartniki v Whopper?’ LOL

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:21:34pm

The fact that the White House is putting out a statement without hearing the report is quite interesting, If not unprecedented, in itself.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:22:06pm

re: #183 Dr. Matt

The fact that the White House is putting out a statement without hearing the report is quite interesting, If not unprecedented, in itself.

As pointed out upthread, they were undoubtedly asked for comment, so it’s likely they had enough detail to issue a statement on their own. The timing of it definitely reeks of desperation, though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:22:21pm

re: #180 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

All I can say is patience. While some of Maddow’s openings can drag, she connects the dots and it needs to be done.

This is why I read Abstracts, scan the figures, and read parts of the Discussion.
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:22:35pm

There are a LOT of people watching Maddow on the MSNBC stream - I’m getting buffering like crazy here at work.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:03pm

re: #182 makeitstop

There was really a Supreme Court case called ‘Bartniki v Whopper?’ LOL

en.wikipedia.org
Vooper. One of the cases, I did a presentation on for my paralegal class involved Taco Bell. And the first case we learned about involved a man finding a toe in his chewing tobacco.

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

re: #182 makeitstop

There was really a Supreme Court case called ‘Bartniki v Whopper?’ LOL

Bartniki v Vopper

en.wikipedia.org

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:54pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, by 2005 he had used up ALL of the $916 million carryover loss from 1995 AND all of the other losses during the same 10 years?

Sort of.

Trump’s 2005 return also shows that he’d continued to benefit from the roughly $916 million loss he reported in his 1995 return—published last year by The New York Times. Using a loophole Congress closed in 1996, Trump converted that loss into a tax credit for the same amount he could offset against income.

2005 was the year that Trump, a newly minted reality star, made his last big score as a real-life real estate developer, when he sold two properties, one on Manhattan’s west side and one in San Francisco, to Hong Kong investors, accounting for the lion’s share of his income that year.

I read that to mean the $150 million taxable income in 2005 was the remainder after the last of the 1995 credit was used up.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:23:56pm

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:15pm

re: #182 makeitstop

There was really a Supreme Court case called ‘Bartniki v Whopper?’ LOL

Bartnicki v. Vopper

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:44pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org
Vooper. One of the cases, I did a presentation on for my paralegal class involved Taco Bell. And the first case we learned about involved a man finding a toe in his chewing tobacco.

Oh, VOPPER. Must have been from Burger König.
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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:47pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

” One of the most successful businessmen in the world”.

Rolling my eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:24:47pm

Rachel reading the WH response right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:08pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

It takes 2 Hans to handle a Vopper!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:09pm

Meanwhile the Dems unveiled a bill for paid family and medical leave but that won’t shut up the dipshit assholes who insist the Dems are no better than the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:36pm

re: #195 Dr. Matt

” One of the most successful businessmen in the world”.

Rolling my eyes.

You’re not kidding. Always stupid bragging with him.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:50pm

re: #187 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

There are a LOT of people watching Maddow on the MSNBC stream - I’m getting buffering like crazy here at work.

And that is the kind of importance that can come from this. If there is water-cooler talk tomorrow, if comedians all start joking, if people watching the NCAA tournaments mention it for a few minutes in a commercial break…it will be good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:25:55pm

WE ARE WAITING HERE SO PATIENTLY

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:26:02pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Meanwhile the Dems unveiled a bill for paid family and medical leave but that won’t shut up the dipshit assholes who insist the Dems are no better than the GOP.

That’s cool. I’m waiting for someone to ask “Why didn’t they introduce that when they were in charge?”

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:26:46pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, VOPPER. Must have been from Burger König.
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Speaking of Burger King. The Russian branch.
How Russia Turned on a Teenage Rape Victim

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:26:55pm

I hope Maddow is using strateegery. I’d like to believe she’s deliberately getting inside his OODA loop and changing the narrative from “Donnie works with Republicans to fix Obummercare” back to “GODDAMMIT FAKE NEWS FUCKITY FUCK *TWEET TWEET TWEET*” to ruin his week and push the reset button on his public image.

“Oh, you thought he was President? Nope, he’s still a corrupt fuckhead who can’t control himself!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:27:15pm

David Cay Johnston now saying that it’s entirely possible that the yam himself leaked the return.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:27:55pm

re: #202 Belafon

That’s cool. I’m waiting for someone to ask “Why didn’t they introduce that when they were in charge?”

Yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:28:53pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, VOPPER. Must have been from Burger König.
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Funnily enough, I will be staying in a Hostel located near a Burger Konig when I visit Berchtesgaden this summer.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:28:55pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Cay Johnston now saying that it’s entirely possible that the yam himself leaked the return.

Speaking of yams:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:29:36pm

re: #209 Dr. Matt

Speaking of yams:

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Don’t adjust the setttings on your TVs

I still think he’s one of those aliens from Men In Black.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:30:33pm

re: #209 Dr. Matt

Speaking of yams:

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Don’t adjust the setttings on your TVs

You could sink an SUV in his pores.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:31:14pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

You could sink an SUV in his pores.

Perhaps that’s where he’s hiding his tax returns.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:31:37pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

It takes 2 Hans to handle a Vopper!

In Russia, Vopper Hans you!

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:31:54pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

You could sink an SUV in his pores.

You say he is trying to sink the poors?

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:33:41pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Cay Johnston now saying that it’s entirely possible that the yam himself leaked the return.

We’ll know tomorrow morning, won’t we?

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:34:53pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Cay Johnston now saying that it’s entirely possible that the yam himself leaked the return.

You’d probably be asking, “wouldn’t he just disclose all the returns and end it?”

But we aren’t dealing with sanity here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:35:03pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

You say he is trying to sink the poors?

You see all those pits in his skin? That’s what happens when you use a bunch of goop on your skin but never wash your face.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:36:05pm

re: #209 Dr. Matt

On most humans the hands are generally the same color as the face, or slightly darker.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:36:10pm

re: #182 makeitstop

There was really a Supreme Court case called ‘Bartniki v Whopper?’ LOL

Not a SCOTUS case, but we have this from the Second Circuit “United States v. One Package of Japanese Pessaries” en.wikipedia.org

“often just U.S. v. One Package”, can’t think why…

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:37:39pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart

On most humans the hands are generally the same color as the face, or slightly darker.

With Trumpf, I would use the term “human”.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:38:23pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart

On most humans the hands are generally the same color as the face, or slightly darker.

Yep. I wonder how good the circulatory system the healthiest President ever really is…doesn’t look like blood is getting to the extremities.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:38:42pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

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His staff are probably playing Hot Potato with his phone right now. I’m almost giggling.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:39:39pm

re: #221 EPR-radar

Not a SCOTUS case, but we have this from the Second Circuit “United States v. One Package of Japanese Pessaries” en.wikipedia.org

“often just U.S. v. One Package”, can’t think why…

I saw that one pop up here the other day.

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:40:44pm

re: #225 makeitstop

I saw that one pop up here the other day.

That was also me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:41:22pm

Not a case but there was a circuit judge named Learned Hand.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:41:58pm

Just got a text from my pops: “You watching Maddow on MSNBC tonight?”

This, from the guy who I don’t talk politics with anymore because of his irrational hate of Hillary Clinton (he assures me he didn’t vote for Fuckface Von Clownstick, but that doesn’t make it better).

My text back: “Don’t need to, I have my sources.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:42:08pm

Maddow should offer Trump one million dollars cash to release all of his returns. That’s not a lot of money for Trump, but consider:

A. Most people consider a million dollars to be a noteworthy sum.
B. This offer would be news-worthy.
C. Any reasonable American, even a stupid one, would be interested in how somebody reacts to a million-dollar offer. We pay attention to these offers all the time, when they’re on reality game shows.
D. It would put Trump on the defensive just a little bit and he’d react personally.
E. When he inevitably doesn’t release them, it might make people wonder what he’s hiding. (optimism on my part)

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:42:23pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:42:42pm

re: #224 thedopefishlives

His staff are probably playing Hot Potato with his phone right now. I’m almost giggling.

In the dead of night, POTUS* Trump will make his way to the white house bathroom, phone in a death grip.

“Alert the media! Policy is about to be made via Twitter.”

Edited to add: After that, there will be an extended seance with a rubber duck in the bathtub that it would be rude to speculate further on.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:44:16pm

re: #228 teleskiguy

My pops *never* fucking watches cable TV news. So, yeah. Rachel Maddow is enjoying the best ratings in quite some time.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:44:39pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

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That’s a good point.

The Trump administration has run a Gish Gallop of scandal and corruption, and most news outfits just couldn’t keep up. Anything that forces them to revisit is good.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:46:53pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:48:36pm

Ian’s all about the Trump-as-4D-chess-player theory.

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*spit*

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:50:00pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

Ian’s all about the Trump-as-4D-chess-player theory.

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*spit*

Yeah, how exactly does this benefit Trump? How does drawing attention back to a story that the media has been paying little attention to in recent weeks help him in any way?

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:50:41pm

re: #233 makeitstop

That’s a good point.

The Trump administration has run a Gish Gallop of scandal and corruption, and most news outfits just couldn’t keep up. Anything that forces them to revisit is good.

I think the tax issue is only useful to the extent that it gets under Trump’s skin and causes him to do stupider stuff than usual. Swing voters didn’t care about it, and unless there is something truly remarkable in Trump’s taxes they will continue to not care.

That said, I’m all for anything that pisses off the Orange Menace.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:51:05pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

Yeah, how exactly does this benefit Trump? How does drawing attention back to a story that the media has been paying little attention to in recent weeks help him in any way?

Shhh… Don’t tell anybody, but… it doesn’t

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:52:07pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

Yes, he’s so smart to let Rachel Maddow explain to a huge audience just why we should be interested in who Trump owes money to, and who he might try to benefit using our national resources.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:52:43pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

It’s taking his lone strength — distraction — and turning it against him.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:53:12pm

What’s hilarious is how badly that Trump “pivot” speech aged in two weeks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:54:04pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

What’s hilarious is how badly that Trump “pivot” speech aged in two weeks.

Yep.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:54:54pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

What’s hilarious is how badly that Trump “pivot” speech aged in two weeks.

I just want to know what in the wide wide world of sports Van Jones was thinking that night.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:55:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:55:51pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

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Yeah because FNC is so exciting when they covered 12 people wearing colonial hats complaining about Obama.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

What’s hilarious is how badly that Trump “pivot” speech aged in two weeks.

The what???

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:56:25pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

Yeah, how exactly does this benefit Trump? How does drawing attention back to a story that the media has been paying little attention to in recent weeks help him in any way?

It benefits Trump by proving he did pay taxes at least once this century. That’s the news, and it pretty well kills off the tax story for good.

Maddow got played, but good, and Trump gets to rage about an “illegal” leak.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:56:29pm

re: #243 Myron Falwell

I just want to know what in the wide wide world of sports Van Jones was thinking that night.

I don’t know. He’s usually one of the better pundits IMO. I won’t hold it against him though.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:57:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 6:59:30pm

re: #249 jaunte

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Thank goodness for people like Kurt.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:00:51pm

re: #249 jaunte

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What’s the one thing you don’t joke about with Trump? His wealth.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:00:54pm
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:00:55pm

“Where’s the money, Lebowski?”

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:03:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:04:41pm

re: #254 Kragar

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Yep. I have to say after what I witnessed in 2016, I definitely saw sexism that does exist on the left and the BBs were some of the worst offenders.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:05:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:06:42pm

re: #256 jaunte

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Aren’t conservatives fond of saying that the tax paper work is too complicated and yet he only has two pages?

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:10:05pm

re: #247 Skip Intro

Regardless of what it was or who leaked it, the MAGAots and RWNJs will have that reaction regardless. They, and Trump, would be crying DEAD ISSUE!!1!! DEAD ISSUE!!1!!! and you and I know it. They’ve attempted to do that already multiple times with the FAKE NEWS!!! catcalls.

The only way Rachel gets played IMO is if that return turned out to be a forgery.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:10:12pm
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:10:45pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:11:30pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

Aren’t conservatives fond of saying that the tax paper work is too complicated and yet he only has two pages?

As a former member here once said, any idiot can calculate their taxes from a table. The hard part is calculating your income.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:12:08pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

Nothing says professional integrity like your Twitter page header featuring a picture of you posing with Donald Trump.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:14:24pm

Am I crazy or is there at least a bit of mansplaining involved in the Maddow reaction?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:16:07pm

re: #262 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Nothing says professional integrity like your Twitter page header featuring a picture of you posing with Donald Trump.

And again these are the same guys who say that the media fawned over Obama.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:17:08pm

re: #263 bratwurst

Am I crazy or is there at least a bit of mansplaining involved in the Maddow reaction?

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See #254.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:18:24pm

re: #263 bratwurst

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:19:06pm

re: #262 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Nothing says professional integrity like your Twitter page header featuring a picture of you posing with Donald Trump.

What, you don’t think Mark Halperin has personal integrity?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:37:22pm

Man, these people.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:38:09pm

re: #268 Charles Johnson

Man, these people.

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“Bo Knows”? Bo Jackson would fuck that guy up.


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