Federal Judge Shuts Down Trump’s Latest Travel Ban Nationwide

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Hawaii Attorney General Doug Chin

Donald Trump’s second attempt to impose an un-American Muslim ban on the United States has been blocked by a federal judge in Hawaii.

Yes.

A federal judge in Hawaii issued a nationwide order Wednesday evening blocking President Trump’s ban on travel from parts of the Muslim world, dealing a political blow to the White House and signaling that proponents of the ban face a long and risky legal battle ahead.

The ruling was the second frustrating defeat for Mr. Trump’s travel ban, after a federal court in Seattle halted an earlier version of the executive order last month. Mr. Trump responded to that setback with fury, lashing out at the judiciary before ultimately abandoning the order.

Judge Derrick K. Watson had a few choice words for Trump’s lawyers, who tried to argue this isn’t a “Muslim ban” even though Trump himself and his cronies have explicitly said it is, on numerous occasions.

Administration lawyers argued in multiple courts on Wednesday that the president was merely exercising his national security powers and that no element of the executive order, as written, could be construed as a religious test for travelers.

But in the lawsuit brought by Hawaii’s attorney general, Doug Chin, Judge Derrick K. Watson appeared skeptical of the government’s claim that past comments by Mr. Trump and his allies had no bearing on the case.

“Are you saying we close our eyes to the sequence of statements before this?” Judge Watson, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, asked in a hearing Wednesday before he ruled against the administration.

Meanwhile, Pumpkin Pinochet is upset. I don’t know why; he should be starting to get used to having his ugly executive orders blocked.

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UPDATE at 3/15/17 6:09:05 pm by Charles Johnson

This guy is just unbelievable. And I mean that literally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:52:08pm
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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:55:21pm
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jaunte  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:55:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:57:24pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:57:40pm

So where is the Bund meeting taking place today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:58:19pm

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hey, yam, tell that to the workers at Carrier in Indiana whose jobs just went to Mexico.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:58:43pm

re: #5 Skip Intro

So where is the Bund meeting taking place today?

Tennessee. They’re celebratign Friedrich the Great Andrew Jackson.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:58:57pm
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Rosenberg can seriously just keep retweeting his post, because it keeps being relevant.

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Nyet  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:59:09pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Watching this horror show can’t be good for your health (esp. heart and stomach).

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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:59:15pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 5:59:33pm
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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:00:22pm
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And now every AG in the US has evidence to stop every ban order he attempts.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:00:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:00:38pm
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Belafon  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:01:38pm

If the bathroom law passes here in Texas, I’m going to get a shirt that says “I’m a girl, can’t you tell?”

I have a beard and I’m about 40 pounds overweight.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:01:48pm

Great news. Can we trash DontCare yet?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:01:52pm

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And now every AG in the US has evidence to stop every ban order he attempts.

Yep. Spicer and the acting SG have been trying to say that it’s not a religion ban but Trump because he’s stupid and undisciplined pretty much admitted it is.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:02:00pm

Just binge-watched “Outcast.” Great series.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:02:04pm

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And now every AG in the US has evidence to stop every ban order he attempts.

I just can’t stop looking at that scary blonde woman sitting behind his shoulder. Her expression almost never changes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:02:40pm

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Hey Mike, don’t you have a pedophile to defend from the “left?” Piss off already, you and your dog abusing son. In a just world, you and Trump would be seen as disgraces.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:02:58pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just can’t stop looking at that scary blonde woman sitting behind his shoulder. Her expression almost never changes.

The one in red? Or the one with too much forehead?

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:03:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:03:17pm

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The one in red? Or the one with too much forehead?

the one with the forehead

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:04:07pm

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In a nutshell, why I love Truman.
H.R. 5678 was named after its sponsors, Senator Pat McCarran (D-Nevada), and Congressman Francis Walter (D-Pennsylvania).

President Harry Truman, a Democrat, vetoed the Act because he regarded the bill as “un-American” and discriminatory. His veto message said:[1][2][3]

Today, we are “protecting” ourselves as we were in 1924, against being flooded by immigrants from Eastern Europe. This is fantastic. … We do not need to be protected against immigrants from these countries-on the contrary we want to stretch out a helping hand, to save those who have managed to flee into Western Europe, to succor those who are brave enough to escape from barbarism, to welcome and restore them against the day when their countries will, as we hope, be free again….These are only a few examples of the absurdity, the cruelty of carrying over into this year of 1952 the isolationist limitations of our 1924 law.

In no other realm of our national life are we so hampered and stultified by the dead hand of the past, as we are in this field of immigration.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:04:57pm

That is Assad in the picture if you didn’t know.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:05:35pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

That rally is Exhibit A for the next time Trump attempts a Muslim travel ban, because he says explicitly it’s an attempt to be a Muslim ban.

Intent, purpose. Unconstitutional as applied.

Yeah, he’s not very good at this.

Every AG that wants to sue the Admin over a travel ban need only refer to this (or Miller or Giuiliani) when claiming that this is anything other than a Muslim ban.

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jaunte  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:06:08pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

What does this even mean?

Mass murderers have family too?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:06:33pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:06:39pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:08:33pm

re: #29 gocart mozart

A perfect antidote to news about That Asshole in the White House.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:08:56pm

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cats and dogs, people…CATS AND DOGS!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:08:58pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

the one with the forehead

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“Dogs and cats, living together…MASS HYSTERIA!!!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:09:37pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

On my list after Expanse

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:10:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:12:24pm

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I cannot wait to see his reaction when his judicial appointees (hopefully none named Gorsuch) reject his administration. He’ll view it as a personal betrayal.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:13:06pm

re: #29 gocart mozart

I volunteer at the local humane society. A year or two ago there was a cat and a chihuahua brought in together. Since they were abandoned, they had to be separated for medical reasons after intake. When they could finally see each other again, they were crying. They stayed together in their adoption pod, and went to their true forever home together.

Meet Mighty (the cat) and Mouse.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:13:08pm

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:14:21pm

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Sucks for the lawyers, slightly less sucky for the rest of us that Trump is ultimately his own worst enemy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:15:24pm

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Yep. That is the one saving grace here. He’s let the cat out of the bag here. I mean Rudy and Miller’s bs was one thing as was the campaign trail rhetoric but here we have him again. He’s probably going to blame the acting SG for Judge Watson ruling against them.

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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:15:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:16:11pm

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Sucks for the lawyers, slightly less sucky for the rest of us that Trump is ultimately his own worst enemy.

I really sincerely think that will be his undoing in the end. Hopefully, the country won’t be totally fucked by then. I’m hoping for a Sideshow Bob admitting to everything type scenario.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:18:49pm
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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:18:57pm

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There’s a reason that his own lawyers had a 2-man rule when meeting with him. He could never keep a story straight and he’d lie, mischaracterize, obfuscate, or make other outlandish statements, so they needed two lawyers in the room at these meetings.

It was a defense against Trump’s own statements, mental defects, or memory issues, or whatever you want to ascribe his actions/behaviors to.

This is more of that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:19:22pm

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:19:32pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

I really sincerely think that will be his undoing in the end. Hopefully, the country won’t be totally fucked by then. I’m hoping for a Sideshow Bob admitting to everything type scenario.

Thing is, he now has the power to pull millions down with him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:19:56pm

re: #43 lawhawk

There’s a reason that his own lawyers had a 2-man rule when meeting with him. He could never keep a story straight and he’d lie, mischaracterize, obfuscate, or make other outlandish statements, so they needed two lawyers in the room at these meetings.

It was a defense against Trump’s own statements, mental defects, or memory issues, or whatever you want to ascribe his actions/behaviors to.

This is more of that.

I’d probably take up smoking if I had to have him as a client.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:20:29pm

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Thing is, he still has the power to pull millions down with him.

Yeah I know, sigh. And we thought that all that stuff on the campaign trail would bring him down too but it only endeared him to his cult of personality even more.

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:20:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:20:55pm
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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:21:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:21:37pm

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:22:54pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Considering that he also stiffed his legal teams on their bills even when they did a competent job, yeah.

And mass consumption of alcohol with a pepto chaser. Clients like this are the stuff of nightmares.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:23:08pm

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I’m sure you all will agree but the independence of the judiciary is one of the finest legacies of the Constitution.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:23:22pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

Nothing from this horrible person yet about Wilders, but she currently has this at the top of her horrible blog.

The people elected President Trump because he promised to enact these very policies. How is it some autocratic leftwing judge in Hawaii can undermine the will of the American people and issue a nationwide halt to the President’s urgently needed immigration order?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:23:52pm

re: #52 lawhawk

Considering that he also stiffed his legal teams on their bills even when they did a competent job, yeah.

And mass consumption of alcohol with a pepto chaser. Clients like this are the stuff of nightmares.

Yeah I should have said binge drinking too. He’s just a loose cannon. it’s not going to be a nice flight back tonight.

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jaunte  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:23:53pm

AUTOCRATIC JUDGE!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:24:53pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Nothing from this horrible person yet about Wilders, but she currently has this at the top of her horrible blog.

By her standards, no judge should have ever rejected anything President Obama did. After all he had the support of the American people and unlike Trump had over 50%. That terrible person is an idiot but you knew that already.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:25:50pm

The fact is they cannot show any evidence of why this EO is warranted. And it despite their lies IS based on religion.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:26:22pm

This fucking asshole!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:27:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:28:56pm

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This fucking asshole!

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It’s actually to our nation’s credit that we have done a better job assimilating Muslims than say France for example because for the longest time, we didn’t make Muslim immigrants out ot be pariahs. I’ve had Muslim friends, teammates, classmates, co-workers, medical professionals, patronized their businesses, etc.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:29:40pm

How the white working class chooses to vote for Republican politicians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:30:09pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:30:23pm

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Assimilation of fundamentalist Christians in the contemporary US has been a very hard process. I’m not aware of any problem of similar scope for American Muslims.

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:31:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:31:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:31:25pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

Assimilation of fundamentalist Christians in the contemporary US has been a very hard process. I’m not aware of any problem of similar scope for American Muslims.

American Muslims by and large send their kids to public schools for example. Fundamentalist Christians OTOH…………..view our public education system with contempt.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:31:43pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Further undermining their case:

1) Iraq was in original EO, not the second one.
2) Original EO was implemented immediately because of imminent threat, 2d had a delay to allow orderly implementation (undermining intent of original).
3) If purpose was to stop terrorists as they claim, where’s Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan on the list since those four countries not only included 9/11 terrorists (and 1993 WTC bombing) plotters, but gave sanctuary to at different times (Afghanistan/Pakistan).
4) DHS report found that nation of origin is poor indicator of terrorism risk.
5) Refugees are vetted to greater degree than anyone entering on a regular visa, even from a place like Syria.
6) Risk from a refugee engaging in terrorism is still lower than other ordinary risks, including being the victim of a garden variety mass shooting (3+ shot) in the US, which occurs essentially daily.

The people who are most vocal in demanding a Muslim ban are also those least likely to ever have encountered a Muslim, or visited anywhere outside their states, let alone a foreign nation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:32:14pm

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And isn’t New York’s AG among the AGs suing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:32:35pm

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And isn’t New York’s AG among the AGs suing?

yes

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:33:02pm
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LOL. Ryan is Charlie Brown and Trump is Lucy with the football.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:33:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:33:46pm

re: #68 lawhawk

Further undermining their case:

1) Iraq was in original EO, not the second one.
2) Original EO was implemented immediately because of imminent threat, 2d had a delay to allow orderly implementation (undermining intent of original).
3) If purpose was to stop terrorists as they claim, where’s Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan on the list since those four countries not only included 9/11 terrorists (and 1993 WTC bombing) plotters, but gave sanctuary to at different times (Afghanistan/Pakistan).
4) DHS report found that nation of origin is poor indicator of terrorism risk.
5) Refugees are vetted to greater degree than anyone entering on a regular visa, even from a place like Syria.
6) Risk from a refugee engaging in terrorism is still lower than other ordinary risks, including being the victim of a garden variety mass shooting (3+ shot) in the US, which occurs essentially daily.

The people who are most vocal in demanding a Muslim ban are also those least likely to ever have encountered a Muslim, or visited anywhere outside their states, let alone a foreign nation.

Yeah, that’s been my observation too. Remember when Oklahoma tried a Shariah ban and we pretty much uncovered that nearly all Oklahoma’s Muslims were university students at OU. I’ve known Muslims my entire life pretty much. I’ve known Muslims from Iran, I’ve known Muslims from Arab nations, and Muslims from Afghanistan and Pakistan too.

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EPR-radar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:33:50pm

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This fucking asshole!

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Trump is a cancer on the nation. So are the Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:34:04pm

Cancer patient pushes back, Price lies right to his face, says they’ll “strengthen” Medicaid by kicking this guy off and cutting 880 billion

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:34:09pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes

Yeah thought so. Was too lazy to check the draft of my newsletter heh.

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:35:39pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

The method of the madness that Trump, Ryan, and the GOP want to do to Medicaid and Medicare, among other things: turn them into block grants to the states, then unceremoniously cut or eliminate them and simultaneously leave the states holding the bag AND make them out as the bad guys when cuts and eliminations are made.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:35:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:36:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:36:26pm

If they want to play the real America game though. I’d gladly point out that the people who voted for Clinton and Obama before her much resemble the nation as a whole but I won’t do that because this is all America, even Steve King’s district.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:36:54pm

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:37:09pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:37:22pm

This is awesome

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:37:30pm

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Waaaah the media is so mean to me but my dipshit supporters think I’m an Alpha when I’m really the biggest crybaby ever to serve as President.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:38:03pm

Heh

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:39:18pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:39:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:40:10pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:41:06pm

Fuck it all to fuck. I’m watching Feud.

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TedStriker  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:41:17pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

And Price calls himself a doctor.

So did Victor Frankenstein.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:41:18pm

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Assimilation is a fucking bullshit concept. A deliberately moving goalpost the “other” has to touch…and then re-touch over and over.

Always, always, it involves shifting “failure” conditions such that the assimilating aren’t allow to complain, or call for redress of wrongs, or demand equal rights.

Whole fucking history of colonialism and immigration.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:41:50pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:42:13pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

And Price calls himself a doctor.

So did Dr. Mengele…

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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:42:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:46:26pm

re: #91 TedStriker

So did Victor Frankenstein.

That’s Fronkensteen!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:47:09pm

OOPS!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:47:14pm

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He really is pathetic. It amuses the hell out of me that all his supporters think he’s such a man. The guy’s a whiny little asshole who has shown he couldn’t handle what Obama did in fact handle.

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:47:20pm
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How long before Fuckface Von Clownstick says

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:47:46pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:48:20pm

re: #92 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Assimilation is a fucking bullshit concept. A deliberately moving goalpost the “other” has to touch…and then re-touch over and over.

Always, always, it involves shifting “failure” conditions such that the assimilating aren’t allow to complain, or call for redress of wrongs, or demand equal rights.

Whole fucking history of colonialism and immigration.

Assimilation. Homogenization. All must obey, the President must not be questioned etc. Party like it’s 1399. Make us all miss out on the great things about others. Religion, food, social ways, music. Pretend the white separatists are not a threat, the Muslims are.

Not my President.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:49:31pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

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And there goes the right wing love affair with Mattis.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:52:03pm

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He has more power than anyone on earth. I’m worried.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:53:13pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:54:10pm

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I love how all those homogeneous counties mean everything but Clinton having an electorate more resembling the country means nothing.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:56:26pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Those population-thin counties.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:56:28pm

Trump picks the best people.

This is Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen. Cohen didn’t realize that he was a part owner in an offshore casino. Of course, like Trump, he left lots of angry creditors, stiffed contractors, and a wake of debt.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:57:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:59:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 6:59:59pm

re: #109 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Those population-thin counties.

Yeah I ahte going there but you know what, if they’re going to dismiss the cities as not being “real America”, I’m going to return the contempt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:00:20pm

Wolf: Did Price answer your question? Cancer survivor: No — and he’s wrong on AHCA. “This is not going to help me.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:00:32pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:01:15pm
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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:04:54pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:05:00pm

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Yes, Donald, I know you think the 1st amendment makes us look weak. Too bad the founders disagree with you and your fascist fans.

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jaunte  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:05:41pm
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Price is a clear and present danger to all Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:07:58pm

re: #120 jaunte

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Price is a clear and present danger to all Americans.

But I thought it was parents choice. // Seriously, this is such kooky bullshit. I am tired of the states rights bullshit. Our states aren’t little fiefdoms where the people in one state have little to no interaction with people in others.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:09:41pm

re: #120 jaunte

Secretary Price:

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:10:43pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Disease outbreaks don’t respect state lines.
Immunization is a public health benefit that saves everyone money over time.

Price’s statements enable anti-vaxxers and vaccine opponents. Price is a threat to public health.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:11:19pm

1. This clip of Tom Price defending the tax break for health care CEOs in Trumpcare is amazing pic.twitter.com

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following tweets:

2. First Price claims not to have even heard about this CEO tax break. Says he’ll have to look into it

3. Dana Bash isn’t having it, says she has the language of the bill right in front of her. Suddenly Price remembers!

4. Price launches into a passionate defense of CEO tax break, saying it would be UNAMERICAN to do anything else

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:13:08pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:13:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:15:22pm

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

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Toothbrush mustaches went out of style.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:16:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:16:06pm
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Teukka  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:16:20pm

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

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Shaved heads or 9 mm cut became too obvious?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:16:52pm

re: #129 gocart mozart

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Meals on wheels made things a lot easier for my Nana when she was in her advanced age.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:18:00pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trying to up his douchebag numpty game.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:19:44pm

OT: I may have been at this show, the only guy with a date who was not sure who she was. Didn’t matter. They rocked.

Indigo Girls - Land of Canaan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:20:02pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:20:28pm

re: #123 gocart mozart

I see where Stone got his look from.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:20:50pm
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KGxvi  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:21:10pm

re: #106 lawhawk

Don’t know where they got that map, but it’s not accurate. Orange and Riverside Counties in California are the wrong color

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:21:29pm
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Kragar  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:22:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:23:48pm

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Spicey is as dumb as Trump.

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KGxvi  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:24:19pm

re: #138 KGxvi

For the record, here’s the accurate map for 2016’s result so:

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:24:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:24:54pm

The Captain departs on an Away Mission with Olfactics Specialist Ginger

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:26:19pm

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This, I am sick of the media normalizing the new fascism.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:29:46pm

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Click to Reveal

You get an avalanche

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:31:19pm

re: #123 gocart mozart

Holy shit!!!! I can’t stop laughing. Thank you!

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MsJ  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:32:00pm

Gah. Idiots.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:33:15pm

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:33:28pm

re: #148 Teukka

Devastating Avalanche accident caught on Camera, destroys houses MUST WATCH

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Anymouse  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:33:53pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Just binge-watched “Outcast.” Great series.

My wife and I are taking a break from binge-watching “The Powerpuff Girls.” (I made an avatar of myself to use here at powerpuffyourself.com but haven’t chosen to upload it… .)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:33:58pm

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Gah. Idiots.

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I can see why they have a problem with the 1st amendment. It goes against everything they believe in.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:37:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:38:39pm

states rights! Unless you want a joint.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:41:31pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:47:06pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:50:20pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Well, I’ve managed to make a passable Powerpuff Lenin, but it’s driving me mad that I can’t quite make Powerpuff Stalin (wearing a pizza slice costume, obviously) to work.

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calochortus  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:53:46pm

Speaking of healthcare (as we sort of were) one reason we don’t have enough doctors, especially primary care physicians is a shortage of residencies. Most are funded by the government and the sequester has prevented the expansion of openings, even though there are more spaces now available in med schools. So, if you get out of med school and don’t get a space, you have a really big debt, and you can’t practice medicine. Oh, and we won’t have a doctor to fill a need in some community somewhere.
What a great way to save money!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:55:12pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:56:18pm

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Lidane  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:57:31pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

On a related note, Trump has inspired new graffiti in my area. I am literally seeing spray painted stencils on the sidewalks that say ANTI-FASCIST AREA and ANTIFA. And I’ve seen signs up on the telephone poles around here warning about some Neo-Nazi douchebag handing out propaganda.

I’ve been in Austin for almost 20 years and have never seen this until just recently. Wow.

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whitebeach  Mar 15, 2017 • 7:59:48pm

It hits home in odd ways. My brother, a year younger than me, which is old, has never seemed political at all. Never, as far as I know, even registered to vote. Some of his opinions are conservative, some liberal, some in between. As we speak, he’s in Mexico, which he’s never visited, with his wife, looking to buy a home in a town near Guadalajara that has a modest population of American ex-pats. That’s how strongly he feels about Trump and the dangerous idiocy that surrounds the man.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:00:51pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

You really don’t understand the 1st amendment do you Ann. It’s regrettable that your family was never turned back though but maybe your ancestors were better people than you are.

Coulter, like so many, doesn’t understand that the constitution restricts the power of government as well as granting it power.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:04:41pm

Oh Justin, how could you?

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:05:05pm

Oh yeah, bitches!

ICE-T saw my tweet. Twitter is fun, sometimes.

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steve_davis  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:15:09pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

You really don’t understand the 1st amendment do you Ann. It’s regrettable that your family was never turned back though but maybe your ancestors were better people than you are.

didn’t this stupid bitch pick up a law degree from Michigan?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:17:19pm

re: #168 whitebeach

It hits home in odd ways. My brother, a year younger than me, which is old, has never seemed political at all. Never, as far as I know, even registered to vote. Some of his opinions are conservative, some liberal, some in between. As we speak, he’s in Mexico, which he’s never visited, with his wife, looking to buy a home in a town near Guadalajara that has a modest population of American ex-pats. That’s how strongly he feels about Trump and the dangerous idiocy that surrounds the man.

Escape. Sounds so good.

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teleskiguy  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:17:24pm

re: #174 steve_davis

didn’t this stupid bitch pick up a law degree from Michigan?

“Stupid bitch” may be the wrong turn of phrase. Maybe “Nazi bitch” next time?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:18:16pm

re: #171 lockjawcanbefun

Oh Justin, how could you?

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Not date. Find other reports.

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BeachDem  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:33:59pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

Not date. Find other reports.

I love that the picture in the NYT story shows an empty seat next to EvitaIvanka.

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stpaulbear  Mar 15, 2017 • 8:39:53pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone needs to put Trump’s head on that gif like the little golfer who had a meltdown.


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