CNN: The Department of Justice Report on Trump’s Wiretap Allegation Does Not Confirm His Conspiracy Theory

Imagine, if you will, my surprise
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It’s probably not going to surprise anyone who’s noticed that Donald Trump lies more than a Persian rug and gets his news from disreputable far right sources that sane people consider utter garbage, but CNN is reporting tonight that the Department of Justice wasted the country’s time and money by investigating Trump’s specious allegation that President Obama ordered a “wiretap” on Trump Tower during the campaign.

(CNN) Two government officials told CNN Friday evening that the classified report the Justice Department delivered to House and Senate investigators does not confirm President Donald Trump’s allegations that President Barack Obama wiretapped him during the campaign.

The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, spoke with knowledge of the classified report’s contents.

When asked if the DOJ’s documents would confirm Trump’s as of yet wholly unsubstantiated allegations, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes told CNN, “I don’t think so” as he walked into a room to read the report.

Does anyone think Donald Trump will now issue a retraction and apologize to President Obama for accusing him of a serious crime with no freaking evidence? Bueller?

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348 comments

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 6:58:30pm

Abolutely pathetic.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:04:42pm

So, erm, what’s coming up, Sir Paul?

Youtube Video

Part 460 of my ongoing series, Reassessing the Cute Beatle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:04:54pm

It’s all Judge Napolitano’s fault….

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b.d.  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:06:01pm

So I suppose an apology will be forthcoming?

bwwwaaaahaaaa! yeah, right…..

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thedopefishlives  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:06:04pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all Judge Napolitano’s fault….

Yanno, I think that says more about Drumpf, when he admits to keeping bad company.

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b.d.  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:06:45pm

Obama should sue the bastard…

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:07:22pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all Judge Napolitano’s fault….

He’s not a judge anymore. He’s a full-blown conspiracy-addled whack-a-loon who should be standing on a street corner yelling at cars all day. Instead, he gets cited as a great legal mind by the SCROTUS.

Someone get me an ice pack.
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KingKenrod  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:07:33pm

I’d love to think that Trump would learn something from this, like he can’t shoot off his mouth with whatever bullshit comes to him, but nah that ain’t gonna happen. He is incapable of self-improvement.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:11:28pm
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A Cranky One  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:11:55pm

Narcissists like Twitler can’t ever admit being wrong. No matter what evidence is provided, he’ll refuse to accept it. Worse, he won’t be discouraged from trusting his right wing sources of information instead of the massive intelligence apparatus under his control.

I’d love for Obama to sue for libel and defamation. He won’t do it, because he respects the office of the Presidency too much. But I’d love to see it, just to have Cheeto Benito go ballistic.

Oh, I posted a picture of the perfect Trump era decorations in an earlier thread, but borked the link. Trying again:

Fireproof human skulls for your gas fireplace, barbecue or firepit

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:12:01pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

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So much respect for allies but bends over backwards to say nice things about Putin. Fuck Trump.

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EPR-radar  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:13:40pm

re: #8 KingKenrod

I’d love to think that Trump would learn something from this, like he can’t shoot off his mouth with whatever bullshit comes to him, but nah that ain’t gonna happen. He is incapable of self-improvement.

Every single elected Republican in DC knows that Trump is a grossly incompetent menace. But they will do nothing because Trump is the Pied Piper for the Pig-People and they want their motherfucking tax cuts above all else.

Fuck them all with Ditch Witches. Rusty ones that are badly out of balance.

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b.d.  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:15:35pm

re: #8 KingKenrod

I’d love to think that Trump would learn something from this, like he can’t shoot off his mouth with whatever bullshit comes to him, but nah that ain’t gonna happen. He is incapable of self-improvement.

He’s not helping his mainstream media is the “Fake News” windmill tilting campaign any.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:15:44pm

re: #10 A Cranky One

I have a good friend who’ll probably buy this, just sent her the link. She’s kind of obsessed with skulls, she’s got a lot of skull stuff.

:)

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thedopefishlives  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:16:47pm

re: #8 KingKenrod

I’d love to think that Trump would learn something from this, like he can’t shoot off his mouth with whatever bullshit comes to him, but nah that ain’t gonna happen. He is incapable of self-improvement.

He doesn’t need to improve himself, he’s perfect.///

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:20:29pm

From the Angela Merkel thread where the FBI has identified who attacked Kurt Eichenwald via his Twitter account:
re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Intent” is the operative word here.

Another problem on attempted murder versus battery: All it would take would be one wingnut on a jury and out goes the attempted murder case (though that could happen with a battery case as well).

The Epilepsy Foundation had some freaks at 4chan attack its message board a few years ago the same way (for the so-called lulz). As far as I know, no one was ever identified in that attack, though EF changed its procedures on who can post to its forums. (No longer just anybody.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:21:57pm

re: #10 A Cranky One

Twitler, you say?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:22:12pm

Trump: “Major meeting” tonight at Mar-a-Lago to “talk all about the VA”

*turns to VA Sec.*

Will you be there?

*awkwardly shakes head no*

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:22:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:22:58pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

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That’s all of our NATO allies you ignorant asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:23:26pm

re: #19 De Kolta Chair

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We have one that has to go back to Ireland too. Enda Kenny spoke far better about what America means than Trump ever has.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:24:47pm
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calochortus  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:25:14pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

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Also talked about how convenient Mar a Lago is because everyone seems to like to go there. It may be an attractive venue (or not) but people wanting to go there doesn’t make it convenient for a bunch of people who are in Washington and could probably walk to the White House for a meeting.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:25:23pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

We have one that has to go back to Ireland too. Enda Kenny spoke far better about what America means than Trump ever has.

True dat. Enda Kenny is a smart and funny guy. I feel his pain.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:28:16pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

True dat. Enda Kenny is a smart and funny guy. I feel his pain.

And he’s from Mayo. Third great Nana was from Mayo. But yeah I have a lot of respect for him for what he’s done on a lot of hot button issues in Irish society.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:29:25pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The “Southern White House” he keeps trying to make a thing, will never be a thing.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:29:27pm

Erick Erickson re-Tweeting himself to “prove” his interpretation of Jesus is “the correct one”:

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:30:02pm

re: #27 Anymouse

“I’m right” is his real religion.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:30:23pm

The beauty part is until recently Trump claimed his father’s heritage was Swedish. True story.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:33:23pm

RedState keeping it classy:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:37:05pm

re: #8 KingKenrod

I’d love to think that Trump would learn something from this, like he can’t shoot off his mouth with whatever bullshit comes to him, but nah that ain’t gonna happen. He is incapable of self-improvement.

Given that lying and insulting others has proved successful for him his entire life, why should he change? His followers don’t care and apparently neither does the Republican party.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:37:39pm

re: #27 Anymouse

Erick Erickson re-Tweeting himself to “prove” his interpretation of Jesus is “the correct one”:

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I don’t give a shit about what the Bible says personally. Feeding the poor and elderly is the right thing to do. You don’t need scripture to justify it. Funny how Erickson thinks these things should be up to private enterprise only when he doesn’t get a chance to push his morality on people.

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Moebym  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:37:44pm

Who knew? SHE knew.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:37:57pm

Not to harp on a sad fact, but it’s a true sad fact

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:38:32pm

Probably knows wire tap has just one p.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:38:45pm

re: #33 Moebym

Who knew? SHE knew.

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She by far of all the candidates that ran in both parties was most prepared for the job.

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b.d.  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:39:37pm

re: #26 jaunte

The “Southern White House” he keeps trying to make a thing, will never be a thing.

The White House already is a southern White House! By design!

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Moebym  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:41:53pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Granted, the knowledge of these facts should’ve been required for anyone interested in running for President.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:42:15pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

She by far of all the candidates that ran in both parties was most prepared for the job.

There were many things that defeated her —- but the sexism has been under reported. Too many Americans — both men and women — are still uncomfortable with a woman as leader.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:43:07pm

re: #39 Hecuba’s daughter

There were many things that defeated her —- but the sexism has been under reported. Too many Americans — both men and women — are still uncomfortable with a woman as leader.

Men and women but also left and right.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:45:22pm

Another WTF, Minnesota?…..

Star Tribune: Police got search warrant for everyone who Googled Edina resident’s name
Google said Friday that it objected “to this overreaching request for user data, and if needed, will fight it in court.”

A search warrant issued to Edina police to collect information on anyone who used certain search terms on Google is raising concerns about constitutional violations.

Privacy law experts say that the warrant — issued to find a suspect in an attempted identity and credit theft of an Edina resident — is based on an unusually broad definition of probable cause that could set a troubling precedent.

“This kind of warrant is cause for concern because it’s closer to these dragnet searches that the Fourth Amendment is designed to prevent,” said William McGeveran, a law professor at the University of Minnesota.

Issued by Hennepin County District Judge Gary Larson in early February, the warrant looks at anyone who searched variations of the resident’s name on Google from Dec. 1 through Jan. 7.

In addition to basic contact information for people targeted by the warrant, Google is being asked to provide Edina police with their Social Security numbers, account and payment information, and IP (internet protocol) and MAC (media access control) addresses.

A spokesperson for Google, which received the warrant, said Friday: “We will continue to object to this overreaching request for user data, and if needed, will fight it in court. We always push back when we receive excessively broad requests for data about our users.”

Information on the warrant first emerged through a blog post by public records researcher Tony Webster. Technology website Ars Technica called the Edina warrant “perhaps the most expansive one we’ve seen unconnected to the U.S. national security apparatus.”

(That’s why all smart/paranoid kids use DuckDuckGo as their search engine-preferably behind a VPN through a TOR session hosted under a VM…..)

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:46:08pm

re: #35 jaunte

How do you spell excellence? That’s easy: K-o-r-y-T-e-r-r-e-l-l.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:46:46pm

In non-news:
huffingtonpost.com?

Parker Brothers has given the boot the boot in Monopoly after its voter poll.

It has replaced the boot with three well-known Atlantic City landmarks: a rubber duck, a penguin, and a T-rex.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:48:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:48:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:49:03pm

re: #41 Eric The Fruit Bat

Another WTF, Minnesota?…..

Star Tribune: Police got search warrant for everyone who Googled Edina resident’s name
Google said Friday that it objected “to this overreaching request for user data, and if needed, will fight it in court.”

(That’s why all smart/paranoid kids use DuckDuckGo as their search engine-preferably behind a VPN through a TOR session hosted under a VM…..)

Note to self …

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:49:19pm

re: #37 b.d.

The White House already is a southern White House! By design!

The yam started out calling it the winter white House, then realized that would sound stupid when he went their every weekend in the spring, summer, and fall.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:49:46pm

Heh….

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:53:14pm

Trump always looks like the old guy in the nursing home who’s pissed off because the other people don’t want to watch his favorite TV show.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:53:24pm

No pay-for-play here:
Trans-Canada Subsidiary Donates $20,000 to the Nebraska GOP (goes to the Scottsbluff NE Star-Herald)

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — The developer of the Keystone XL pipeline has donated $20,000 to the Nebraska Republican Party through a political action committee run by one of its U.S. subsidiaries.

The Feb. 8 donation was made as TransCanada seeks approval for a route through Nebraska. It came from Columbia Pipeline Group, which was acquired by the Canadian company in July.

TransCanada filed its application with the Nebraska Public Service Commission Feb. 16. Four of the commission’s five members are Republicans.

More at the Star-Herald

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:54:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:55:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:57:28pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

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Trump: “Major meeting” tonight at Mar-a-Lago to “talk all about the VA”

*turns to VA Sec.*

Will you be there?

*awkwardly shakes head no*

UPDATE:

LOLOL! Turns out the “Southern White House” isn’t so accessible.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:57:52pm

I mean if Erickson thinks the government shouldn’t be helping the poor, elderly, and hungry. Fine, but don’t hide behind your religion.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:58:15pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Trump: “Major meeting” tonight at Mar-a-Lago to “talk all about the VA”

*turns to VA Sec.*

Will you be there?

*awkwardly shakes head no*

UPDATE:

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LOLOL! Turns out the “Southern White House” isn’t so accessible.

This administration is a fucking joke.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:58:47pm

(Shamelessly lifted from Brad DeLong’s RSS Feed…)
Lawfare: The Revolt of the Judges: What Happens When the Judiciary Doesn’t Trust the President’s Oath

…There’s a legal debate, already ongoing, about both the propriety of the President’s order and the propriety of the judicial responses to it. But there’s also another meta-legal discussion…. What happens when people—including judges—don’t take the President’s oath of office seriously…. This meta-legal question strikes us, at least, as far more important and far-reaching. And we think the answer lies in judicial suspicion of Trump’s oath….
When the next executive order came out ten days ago, one of us (Ben) analyzed it along the following lines: Because the revised order was set to apply after a waiting period and did not affect current visa-holders or legal permanent residents, the order “[would] not cause people to be pulled off planes, or have their visas revoked, or suddenly be subject to detention at a port of entry.” As such, it seemed at the time that it would be “significantly harder to find plaintiffs with a cognizable injury” to challenge it. The Justice Department was clearly aware of this, writing in filings in both the Western District of Washington and the District of Columbia that “the New Executive Order does not present a need for emergency litigation.” Ben also predicted that, even if the ACLU or similar organizations were able to find plaintiffs with standing, they would find the new order much more difficult to attack in court….
It is early yet in the litigation, but it’s fair to say that at least in two of the first three district courts to rule on the matter over the past day, none of these predictions looks especially prescient…. Our point here is not that the district judges are clearly wrong…. In the face of real legal uncertainty as to the propriety of their actions, they are being astonishingly aggressive…. It really isn’t a normal thing for multiple district judges to do so in quick succession…. So what’s going on here?
One possibility is that we’re dealing with a bit of a fluke. The President behaved very badly, not merely in issuing a grotesque policy in a grotesque fashion but then in attacking the judges tasked with hearing the litigation his conduct spawned…. A second possibility is that these judges, while indeed somewhat ahead of the state of the law, are correctly anticipating its directional momentum…. Maybe Trump’s behavior is forcing a reevaluation of both the application of the Establishment Clause to visa issuance and the scope of deference the courts owe the president on certain national security-inflected immigration matters….
There is a third possibility, and we should be candid about it: Perhaps… there’s an unexpressed legal principle functionally at work here: That President Trump is a crazy person whose oath of office large numbers of judges simply don’t trust and to whom, therefore, a whole lot of normal rules of judicial conduct do not apply…. The normal rules of deference and presumption of regularity in presidential conduct—the rules that underlie norms like not looking behind a facially valid purpose for a visa issuance decision—simply don’t apply to Trump. As we’ve argued, these norms are a function of the president’s oath of office and the working assumption that the President is bound by the Take Care Clause. If the judiciary doesn’t trust the sincerity of the president’s oath and doesn’t have any presumption that the president will take care that the laws are faithfully executed, why on earth would it assume that a facially valid purpose of the executive is its actual purpose?… This, we suspect, is the true significance of all of the references in both district court opinions to the many statements made by Trump and his aides about the Muslim ban and the true purpose of the policy effectuated in both orders….
The question is whether that decoupling of the presidency from the person of the president, which we anticipated in our original essay on the oath, is quite as indefensible as Blackman assumes—or whether it’s an inevitable consequence of vesting someone as volatile and fundamentally disingenuous as Trump with “the Executive Power” of the United States of America. The other question is whether the higher courts—including, ultimately, a majority of the Supreme Court—will share Brinkema’s sensibility or Blackman’s on the matter…. Imagine a world in which other actors have no expectation of civic virtue from the President and thus no concept of deference to him. Imagine a world in which the words of the President are not presumed to carry any weight. Imagine a world in which far more judicial review of presidential conduct is de novo, and in which the executive has to find highly coercive means of enforcing message discipline on its staff because it can’t depend on loyalty. That’s a very different presidency than the one we have come to expect…. It’s a presidency in which we owe nothing to the office institutionally and make individual decisions about how to interact with it based on how much we trust, like, or hate its occupant. The question is whether the revolt of the judges we are currently witnessing is the beginning of this world.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:59:07pm

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:59:21pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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Their God looks occasionally takes on the appearance of Washington, Lincoln, and Jackson.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:59:33pm

re: #51 jaunte

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Why doesn’t he demand the bill gets fixed before he changes his vote?

Oh yeah, because it’s a scam. Dude just wanted a reason to vote yes and Trump gave it to him, even though everyone knows Trump is an inveterate, recidivist liar.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2017 • 7:59:35pm

Chuck Johnson has posted a “bounty” at Wesearchr•com to defend the disgusting antisemite who attacked Kurt Eichenwald.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:01:05pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson has posted a “bounty” at Wesearchr•com to defend the disgusting antisemite who attacked Kurt Eichenwald.

I know it goes against everything I believe in but I want something really bad to happen to that guy that he thinks about the life he’s lived.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:01:41pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Speaking of being blocked, I got blocked by my local National Weather Service office Twitter account today, for this tweet o’ mine:

Using an actual quote from the so-called president and calling him a profane name is a bridge too far for my local NWS office’s social media, apparently.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:01:50pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Now proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he’s not only a white supremacist but an anti-semite as well. Well Played, Rage Furby!

(Now I definitely have to do my Rage Furby/Speed Racer parody song….)

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CleverToad  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:02:17pm

OT: Spouse just exclaimed, “Oh my God, people are posting about the mysterious gatherings of humpback whales and no one has posted The Pines of Rome!”

So to remedy this situation, here is a clip from Fantasia 2000 of the relevant piece. This is a short version, just the last 3+ minutes where it gets fantastical. The whole ten minute piece is worth a look, though.

Fantasia 2000 Pines of Rome

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:02:40pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Trump: “Major meeting” tonight at Mar-a-Lago to “talk all about the VA”

*turns to VA Sec.*

Will you be there?

*awkwardly shakes head no*

UPDATE:

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LOLOL! Turns out the “Southern White House” isn’t so accessible.

What do they need to meet about? They’re going to gut it. You don’t need to waste time having a meeting about a done deal when the yam can be basking in the love of his people.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:04:06pm

“Wasted the country’s time and money.”
Well, at least it didn’t go to feed any of those useless mouths in the un-christian, communard-inspired “Meals on Wheels program.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:06:16pm

re: #22 Anymouse

She’s trying to sell Merkel a condo in TT. They could be neighbors. Ivanka might even drop in to borrow a cup of sugar.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:06:18pm
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CleverToad  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:06:22pm

re: #35 jaunte

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Probably knows wire tap has just one p.

Cool! Hope he gets the kudos he deserves!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:06:38pm

re: #64 CleverToad

One of the best recordings of the Pines of Rome is Fritz Reiner’s performance with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra On Oct 24, 1959 on RCA Red Seal (remastered to Living Presence DSD)-57 years ago (I also have a half-speed mastered vinyl copy-so there! (pffffttthhhppppp!!!!!))

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Teukka  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:09:44pm

What I’m listening to at this moment:

Thomas Bergersen - A Place In Heaven

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:11:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:12:13pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:12:25pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:12:57pm

re: #72 jaunte

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That does remind me that Sanders’ FP advisers were sort of shady too. Sergey pointed some of it out.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:13:32pm

re: #30 Anymouse

RedState keeping it classy:

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They’re being sarcastic.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:13:43pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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I am still equally pissed at the purists on the left. If they cost us again in 2020, man I don’t know.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:13:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:14:33pm

re: #76 Nyet

They’re being sarcastic.

I read it the same way too. It was mocking the Trumpers for being outside the fringe on their own party’s views on immigration reform. That said, I wonder how serious many of these Republicans who say they’re in favor of immigration reform really are.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:14:57pm

I took the high road today and used Matthew 25 and the words of Jesus to rebuke RW mammon-cultists. It didn’t work so I think I will go back to the low road and invoking the French Revolution.
Erickson (confronting crazed mob of poor folk): “Hey, watch it with the pitchforks! I’m a good Christian America patriot.”
Crazed peasant: “My granny starved to death! Fuck you and eat some dirty steel!”

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:15:13pm

“About 95 percent of the land along the Texas border is privately owned.” By people who will fight to keep it.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:15:17pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I mean if Erickson thinks the government shouldn’t be helping the poor, elderly, and hungry. Fine, but don’t hide behind your religion.

Note that Erick acknowledges that the Bible says you should help the poor.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:16:10pm

Evening all

Bird Break.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:16:41pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson has posted a “bounty” at Wesearchr•com to defend the disgusting antisemite who attacked Kurt Eichenwald.

Did a whois lookup on wesearchr.

I wonder if that violates the terms-of-service of Domains by Proxy LLC of Scottsdale, Ariz.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:16:58pm

re: #82 Nyet

Note that Erick acknowledges that he Bible says you should help the poor.

Right, so it shouldn’t be a stretch to conclude that government which is the people ourselves should also do the same. That’s the rebuke I often see- that Christ never said anything about government. Kind of weak sauce but I don’t believe religion should be the basis of helping the poor and hungry anyohw.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:17:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:17:57pm

re: #86 goddamnedfrank

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But Hillary’s speeches!

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:22:03pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:22:42pm

Re: French Revolution
I do not want to see enraged mobs set up a guillotine and start carting mammon-cultists to their final haircut. On the other hand we could get a lot for the TV rights.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:25:15pm

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:26:56pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:27:45pm

re: #88 jaunte

“Don’t bother looking, herr president. OUR ‘tapps’ tell us you haven’t seen that little dingus since 1978.”

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:29:02pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

To this day, I have nightmares about telling clients that.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:29:21pm

Facepalm.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:30:40pm
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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:31:29pm

And the AM corrects our old pal Schindler.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:32:51pm

re: #96 Nyet

And the AM corrects our old pal Schindler.

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Wannsee I want to say was in early ‘42.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:34:02pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Wannsee I want to say was in early ‘42.

Holocaust began before the Wannsee.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:34:39pm

re: #98 Nyet

Holocaust began before the Wannsee.

41?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:35:03pm

Don’t know what I’m missing here.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:37:06pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

41?

Extermination of the Soviet Jews is a part of the Holocaust.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:38:07pm

re: #101 Nyet

Extermination of the Soviet Jews is a part of the Holocaust.

That’s right. Babi Yar.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:38:52pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Einsatzgruppen.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:39:27pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

That’s right. Babi Yar.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:39:34pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

This_is_fine.png

I was joking with my dentist just this morning about when the Secret Service’s next fuck up was going to happen.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:39:53pm

re: #103 jaunte

Einsatzgruppen.

That too.

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BeachDem  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:41:39pm

re: #37 b.d.

The White House already is a southern White House! By design!

[BURR]
Congress is fighting over where to put the capital—
[BURR]
It isn’t pretty
Then Jefferson approaches with a dinner and invite
And Madison responds with Virginian insight:
[MADISON]
Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words—
[JEFFERSON]
Oh-ho!
[MADISON]
A quid pro quo
[JEFFERSON]
I suppose
[MADISON]
Wouldn’t you like to work a little closer to home?
[JEFFERSON]
Actually, I would
[MADISON]
Well, I propose the Potomac
[JEFFERSON]
And you’ll provide him his votes?
[MADISON]
Well, we’ll see how it goes
[JEFFERSON]
Let’s go
[BURR]
No!
[COMPANY]
—one else was in
The room where it happened…

genius.com

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:45:37pm

Apropos of nothing, a word from the wise:

You start as a little boy, scratching your name in your desk. You’re saying, “I was born. I am here. I live.” I began by making noise. “Ya! Ya! Ya! Here I am!” I yelled but nobody cared. I discovered you had to find a form for that noise if people are going to notice. So my next noise was as a drummer, then as a comedian and tummler. But I wanted the noise to last longer, so I became a writer.

— Mel Brooks

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:45:57pm

Two South Carolina Lawmakers Prepping Survivalist Communities to Restore the Fabric of America

South Carolina focusing on what’s important …

The wingnuttery is even worse after the opening of the article:

COLUMBIA — For those concerned about societal collapse or impending disaster, two South Carolina lawmakers have a plan. It includes community ammo depots and tactical weapons training.

State Reps. Josiah Magnuson, R-Campobello, and Jonathon Hill, R-Townville — both from tiny towns in the Upstate Bible Belt— are in the process of setting up what they call the “Virtue Solution Project,” a group that is seeking to either save America or survive a societal collapse, which they both believe is likely coming.

The organization is a mixture of religious ministry, grassroots political organizing and disaster prepping. At its core, their movement hopes to save the country by reshaping it to their interpretation of the Founding Fathers’ ideals.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:48:07pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Holocaust: The Ignored Reality

All in all, as many if not more Jews were killed by bullets as by gas, but they were killed by bullets in easterly locations that are blurred in painful remembrance. The second most important part of the Holocaust is the mass murder by bullets in eastern Poland and the Soviet Union. It began with SS Einsatzgruppen shootings of Jewish men in June 1941, expanded to the murder of Jewish women and children in July, and extended to the extermination of entire Jewish communities that August and September. By the end of 1941, the Germans (along with local auxiliaries and Romanian troops) had killed a million Jews in the Soviet Union and the Baltics. That is the equivalent of the total number of Jews killed at Auschwitz during the entire war. By the end of 1942, the Germans (again, with a great deal of local assistance) had shot another 700,000 Jews, and the Soviet Jewish populations under their control had ceased to exist.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:52:14pm

re: #110 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Holocaust: The Ignored Reality

Thanks and with that, good night guys.

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:52:34pm

My friend posted this on her Instagram:

Instagram

😡 THIS GUY!!!! I mean… REALLY????

And she tried to get a photo of the driver, but the bitch-ass coward driving the pedo van hid his ugly mug from her phone.

If you’re so brave enough to drive with such a bumper sticker, then don’t be a coward and hide your face when the going gets tough.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:53:20pm

re: #109 Anymouse

Camp Snowflake?

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Moebym  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:55:02pm

re: #112 electrotek

Hmm…how about the descendants of the original illegal immigrants?

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:55:33pm

re: #114 Moebym

Hmm…how about the descendants of the original illegal immigrants?

White people are exceptional folks, didn’t you know?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:57:37pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

I tweeted this at him.

That’s the verse about the wolf in sheep’s clothing.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:58:09pm

Bosnian Serb elected as Mayor of Srebrenica seeks to heal the ethnic divisions in his city and move the economy forward. He is the first ethnic Serb elected there in twenty years.
bbc.com

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 8:59:39pm

The Secret Service has lost some of their secret stuff in NY.

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Nyet  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:00:30pm

re: #110 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Holocaust: The Ignored Reality

Should be noted that the EGs weren’t the only ones killing (the EGs as such killed around 600000 Jews through shootings *and* gassings).

> That is the equivalent of the total number of Jews killed at Auschwitz during the entire war.

A bit more, since the newer estimates put the Jewish Auschwitz death toll at about 900000.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:02:01pm

re: #114 Moebym

Hmm…how about the descendants of the original illegal immigrants?

The goyim?

Chief Brooks

Forgive me, I’m on a Mel Brooks jag. Happens every St. Paddy’s Day. //

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:08:46pm

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:09:28pm

re: #117 Anymouse

Bosnian Serb elected as Mayor of Srebrenica seeks to heal the ethnic divisions in his city and move the economy forward. He is the first ethnic Serb elected there in twenty years.
bbc.com

I’m surprised they were able to give him a chance. But nonetheless, it is needed.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:10:32pm
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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:12:19pm

re: #123 jaunte

Since the FBI is looking into this, and at least 40 more that followed suit, what would be the odds of having them look into Our Friend Chuckie?

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:14:32pm

re: #124 retired cynic

I don’t think he would be against trying to assault a political opponent by giving him an epileptic seizure, but he seems to be more inclined to scam people for money.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:15:19pm

I’m not going to win any spelling bees.

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:15:33pm

re: #125 jaunte

I don’t think he would be against trying to assault a political opponent by giving him an elipeptic seizure, but he seems to be more inclined to scam people for money.

Well, he’s trying to cash in by raising a wesearchr bounty to defend this guy.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:16:18pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This by far is the Word “feature” that drives me up a wall. We’e gone through so many iterations of Microsoft Office and still M$oft can’t figure to how to deal with page layouts in Word.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:17:19pm

re: #126 jaunte

I’m more of a mis-spelling wasp.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:18:25pm

re: #123 jaunte

In other words, this guy is a douchecanoe.

People like him are reason 5,392.68 for me not to be on Twitter.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:19:27pm

re: #126 jaunte

I’m not going to win any spelling bees.

I don’t need a bee that can spell, I prefer my bees can pollinate plants and make honey.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:19:57pm

re: #130 Anymouse

He’s proof that we live among murderers held back only by fear of getting caught.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:23:25pm
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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:28:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:34:14pm

Interesting observation from one of the creators of the Cyberpunk genre.

Information has now literally been weaponized. You could make the argument that this is just a continuation of attacks like Stuxnet and other cyber warfare tools, but this time an amateur used simple research and available video files to hack and damage a vulnerable victim’s brain.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:34:24pm

re: #109 Anymouse

Two South Carolina Lawmakers Prepping Survivalist Communities to Restore the Fabric of America

South Carolina focusing on what’s important …

The wingnuttery is even worse after the opening of the article:

This is the kind of thing I have been speculating about for quite a while. The right has been preparing a kind of quasi-state for a long time, with the loose-knit but pervasive fundy church networks supplying the organization and numbers, crazed ammosexuals the muscle, and tea party shills the propaganda and leadership. At the very least, this is where Bannon gets his brownshirts in any showdown with the “deep state” (ie courts, military, professional civil service).

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:40:20pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

They are so invested and committed that I fear they will do anything to get some of the battles they crave. If they don’t get it, it’s like their life doesn’t have meaning and they will have to confront all they’ve wasted and the wrongness of their whole guiding philosophy.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:45:51pm

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:46:02pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

As usual Michael Tracey chimes in with the worst take:

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Joe Bacon  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:46:16pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

This is the kind of thing I have been speculating about for quite a while. The right has been preparing a kind of quasi-state for a long time, with the loose-knit but pervasive fundy church networks supplying the organization and numbers, crazed ammosexuals the muscle, and tea party shills the propaganda and leadership. At the very least, this is where Bannon gets his brownshirts in any showdown with the “deep state” (ie courts, military, professional civil service).

Not only that, they got to find fellow Trumpettes who believe in preserving The Master Race!

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:48:33pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

As usual Michael Tracey chimes in with the worst take:

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:48:49pm

Oh how convenient for this “fiscally conservative socially liberal” guy:

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:50:37pm

re: #142 electrotek

Oh how convenient for this “fiscally conservative socially liberal” guy:

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Umm. A study of history might make him… oh, who am I kidding?

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:53:14pm

Mmmm, kinda want some BBQ now…

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:54:28pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

As usual Michael Tracey chimes in with the worst take:

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Not “worst take”: Deliberate lie.

It was not an “annoying tweet.” It was deliberate battery, which the alleged perpetrator indicated was an attempt to murder him.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 9:59:10pm

re: #144 JordanRules

Mmmm, kinda want some BBQ now…

A pal of mine and I are devotees of Caro’s LBJ biography. Obsessively so in fact.

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:00:57pm

re: #144 JordanRules

Mmmm, kinda want some BBQ now…

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The best BBQ (if that is the word) I ever had was one we had done in our front yard, with four whole lambs, grass fed, butchered and rolled right onto the spits with the fat in layers, and a dry rub that I would give my eye-teeth to know what was in it. The BBQr had never done lamb before, but it was absolutely spectacular, and the folks present ate it all, with every accompaniment we could muster, sitting on straw bales in the yard.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:02:06pm

re: #141 De Kolta Chair

Maybe I was too harsh and should’ve just said he’s a dickweed. Like I’ll ever let him know that, whoever the hell he is.

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:03:29pm

And while I am posting, I meant to say last night that when I went to town yesterday afternoon, there were hundreds of robins in my yard. I have never seen anything like it. We have had some present, but this must have been a big migration going north. I had to drive very carefully not to hit them, they were so busy hunting worms and things to eat.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:04:18pm

re: #147 retired cynic

That sounds fantastic!

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:05:12pm

re: #150 JordanRules

That sounds fantastic!

It was as close to heaven as I expect to come eating.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:06:09pm

I still to this day love this song.

Alice in Chains - Nutshell

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:06:13pm

And you know, I think it was six lambs. Fortunately I never met them, or it wouldn’t have happened, but I can’t regret them.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:06:30pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:08:07pm

re: #149 retired cynic

I had a similar experience one afternoon in the Baltimore ‘burbs last fall. My sis-in-law’s backyard was blanketed with robins. Usually it’s crows, but that was my first time seeing so many red breasted critters.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:08:30pm

With Trump sabre-rattling over North Korea and the Middle East, what’s the over/under on a reinstated military draft?

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:09:53pm

re: #151 retired cynic

I’ve only enjoyed lamb in typical American lamb chop and Middle Eastern variations. I love it and would relish some super fresh whole hog-like treatment.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:10:29pm
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Ace Rothstein  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:10:30pm

re: #156 Anymouse

With Trump sabre-rattling over North Korea and the Middle East, what’s the over/under on a reinstated military draft?

As long as Barron is exempt, I’d say “Yes -240.”

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:12:27pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

Do you have a favorite volume?

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:12:41pm

re: #157 JordanRules

I’ve only enjoyed lamb in typical American lamb chop and Middle Eastern variations. I love it and would relish some super fresh whole hog-like treatment.

Some friends managed the whole thing for us. They bought the lambs as babies, raised them on grass, and brought the BBQr and his rigs and and lambs to our local country butcher (now long gone, alas, along with fresh oxtail and kidneys and sweetbreads, oh!). I swiped a few chunks and stashed them in the freezer, and it was good, but it couldn’t match that on the day.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:13:08pm

re: #156 Anymouse

With Trump sabre-rattling over North Korea and the Middle East, what’s the over/under on a reinstated military draft?

But Trump’s peeps say we can slash the State Dept.’s budget because there will be fewer wars!

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:13:49pm

Kurt Eichenwald tweeted about the FBI arrest of his attacker. What he got in response was a pile on of derp, and apparently another attack.

Thread:

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:14:21pm

Oh man, I remember this ‘reality TV’ well.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:16:16pm

Reuters: Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings

A Reuters review found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida.

MIAMI/MOSCOW - During the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump downplayed his business ties with Russia. And since taking office as president, he has been even more emphatic.

“I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia,” President Trump said at a news conference last month. “I have no loans in Russia. I don’t have any deals in Russia.”

But in the United States, members of the Russian elite have invested in Trump buildings. A Reuters review has found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida, according to public documents, interviews and corporate records.

The buyers include politically connected businessmen, such as a former executive in a Moscow-based state-run construction firm that works on military and intelligence facilities, the founder of a St. Petersburg investment bank and the co-founder of a conglomerate with interests in banking, property and electronics.

People from the second and third tiers of Russian power have invested in the Trump buildings as well. One recently posted a photo of himself with the leader of a Russian motorcycle gang that was sanctioned by the United States for its alleged role in Moscow’s seizure of Crimea.

The Reuters review of investors from Russia in Trump’s Florida condominium buildings found no suggestion of wrongdoing by President Trump or his real estate organization. And none of the buyers appear to be from Putin’s inner circle.

The White House referred questions from Reuters to the Trump Organization, whose chief legal officer said the scrutiny of President Trump’s business ties with Russia was misplaced.

“I can say definitively that this is an overblown story that is media-created,” Alan Garten said in an interview. “I’ve been around this company and know the company’s dealings.”

The tally of investors from Russia may be conservative. The analysis found that at least 703 - or about one-third - of the owners of the 2044 units in the seven Trump buildings are limited liability companies, or LLCs, which have the ability to hide the identity of a property’s true owner. And the nationality of many buyers could not be determined. Russian-Americans who did not use a Russian address or passport in their purchases were not included in the tally.

The review focused on Florida because the state has a large concentration of Trump-branded buildings, and determining the ownership of properties is easier there than in some other states. The resort town of Sunny Isles Beach, site of six of the seven Trump-branded Florida residential towers, stands out in another way: The zip code that includes the Sunny Isles buildings has an estimated 1,200 Russian-born residents, among the most in the country, U.S. Census data show.

The Trump organization advertises all seven Florida buildings on its website as it pursues similar branding deals around the world. Exactly how much income Trump has earned from the buildings is unclear.

Six of the seven properties were the product of an agreement the New York property magnate struck in 2001 with father-and-son American developers Michael and Gil Dezer. The six buildings operated by the Dezers in Sunny Isles would bear Trump’s name under a licensing agreement.

In an interview, Gil Dezer said the project generated $2 billion in initial sales, from which Trump took a commission. Dezer declined to say how large a commission, citing confidentiality agreements. Garten, the Trump Organization’s chief legal officer, said Trump’s income was a mix of flat fees and percentages but declined to disclose them.

Edgardo Defortuna, a leading Miami developer, estimated that Trump likely made between one percent and four percent in initial sale commissions, based on the standard fees paid on similarly branded projects. If so, Trump stood to reap a total of $20 million to $80 million in Sunny Isles.

Trump receives no commission on subsequent sales in all seven of the Florida residential towers.

He continues to make money from one of the six Sunny Isles buildings, however, according to disclosure forms Trump filed in the 2016 U.S. presidential race. The disclosure form states that Trump received between $100,000 and $1 million from a business called Trump Marks Sunny Isles I LLC. Dezer said these funds came from the Trump International Beach Resort, a hotel and condominium complex.

Trump reported no income on his disclosure form from his seventh Florida property, the Trump Hollywood in the city of Hollywood. How much he has made over the years from that property’s 200 units is unclear. BH3, an investment fund which took over 180 units in a foreclosure sale, paid Trump a licensing fee of $25,000 for each unit, according to Daniel Lebensohn, a principal at the fund. If the remaining 20 units generated the same fee, Trump’s take would have been $5 million. Garten declined to confirm Trump’s commission.

Informed of the Reuters analysis of Trump’s Russian condo investors, two Democratic opponents of the president, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), renewed their calls for greater disclosure of his finances.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:17:02pm

re: #165 Eric The Fruit Bat

Fake news.
/

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:17:07pm

re: #160 JordanRules

Do you have a favorite volume?

The second volume, “Means of Ascent.” LBJ’s primary campaign against Coke Stevenson showed what a truly vicious bastard he could be, and Caro’s research and writing are incomparable.

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teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:18:37pm
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:19:40pm

re: #163 Anymouse

Very sad and frustrating if not surprising. People just suck sometimes!!
Dumb ass copy cat assaulter should expect his arrest soon as well.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:21:15pm

Speaking of LBJ, this cartoon could be from the mid-1960s

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:21:57pm

As I read down Eichenwald’s thread, someone posted there a strobing gif which instantly triggered a migraine and a seizure aura. (I have not had an aura in many years since my epilepsy is well-controlled.)

I’ll be back after I get some medication.

The asshole in question is @America20298465 (CumQuatch)

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:23:28pm

re: #171 Anymouse

Shit! I’m so sorry Anymouse.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:26:35pm

re: #171 Anymouse

Sorry to hear that, Anymouse. Hope you feel better, and a good night to you and all the lizards everywhere.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:27:10pm

re: #170 De Kolta Chair

This is drawn by Bill Day-it’s recent because it’s in color and shows a .com signature in the by-line.

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:29:19pm

re: #169 JordanRules

Very sad and frustrating if not surprising. People just suck sometimes!!
Dumb ass copy cat assaulter should expect his arrest soon as well.

There were a bunch of them. I read the thread, and I don’t have epilepsy, but it has given me a headache. I hope they get them all, but there may not be enough prison cells available for that many.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:31:12pm

re: #165 Eric The Fruit Bat

A word of advice here. To observe copyright and to protect our humble host from potential lawsuits, please don’t republish more than four paragraphs from another source. Interested parties can read more at the link provided.

Thx

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:32:05pm

re: #172 JordanRules

Shit! I’m so sorry Anymouse.

It wasn’t your fault.

The tweet in question is behind the privacy bar. (Do not open it if you suffer from migraines or epilepsy.) It is similar to the one foisted off on the Epilepsy Foundation. The person in question needs to be reported to Twitter so the libertarian dudebros that run it can claim “freeze peach.”

My wife is aware of the problem I just had and will keep a close eye on me. (Dizzy, not feeling well at the moment.)

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:32:33pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

And he’s from Mayo. Third great Nana was from Mayo. But yeah I have a lot of respect for him for what he’s done on a lot of hot button issues in Irish society.

Your comment bears repeating. ;-)

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:33:35pm

re: #177 Anymouse

Don’t go back to that thread. There was a legion more after that one, and some of them were worse.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:33:39pm

re: #178 De Kolta Chair

Your comment bears repeating. ;-)

But does it bear mayo?

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majii  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:37:27pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon

“Not only that, they got to find fellow Trumpettes who believe in preserving The Master Race!”

I read, via, SPLC, a new Gallup poll that shows Americans are “more worried” about racial divisiveness than ever before. I’d like those who accused #44 of being solely responsible for racial divisiveness for eight years to explain how this is possible. #44 is gone, do they still blame him for this? According to the poll, more Americans are worried about this matter now than they ever were in the past. I posed this same question on my Facebook wall, but I’m not expecting my former co-workers, who claim to be staunch conservatives, to respond to my question. More than likely, they’re avoiding acknowledging how much of a mess Trump has made of the country in such a short period of time.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:42:37pm

re: #163 Anymouse

Kurt Eichenwald tweeted about the FBI arrest of his attacker. What he got in response was a pile on of derp, and apparently another attack.

Thread:

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I went through and reported a couple of those. It seems like Kurt managed to anger every far right and far left asshole on the internet, from gamergaters & Trump white supremacists to uber leftists with hammer and sickle glyphs in their display names.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:43:23pm

re: #179 retired cynic

Don’t go back to that thread. There was a legion more after that one, and some of them were worse.

After I ran across the second one I closed the tab to Mr. Eichenwald’s Twitter feed.

A whole bunch of conservatives there commenting on “liberal snowflake triggered” haha derpety derp.

More commenting about complaints that Mr. Eichenwald should just get off the Internet then, or complaining he is trying to be some sort of thought-police on Twitter (I guess those folk don’t really understand how “battery” works)

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majii  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:44:25pm

re: #145 Anymouse

“It was not an “annoying tweet.” It was deliberate battery, which the alleged perpetrator indicated was an attempt to murder him.”

Rivello wasn’t shy about sharing the purpose of the tweet on social media. He admitted he knew Eichenwald has epileptic seizures, hoped the image in the tweet would make Eichenwald have a grand mal epileptic seizure, and hoped Eichenwald would die as a result. He definitely knew what he was doing, and it’s too late for him to say he didn’t know because his tweets showed his intent to harm Eichenwald, and included a wish for lethal harm to KE.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:45:14pm

re: #180 Anymouse

But does it bear mayo?

I’d ask Country Clare but she never returns my calls.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:48:08pm

re: #174 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is drawn by Bill Day-it’s recent because it’s in color and shows a .com signature in the by-line.

He’s good.

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Moebym  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:48:52pm

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

I went through and reported a couple of those. It seems like Kurt managed to anger every far right and far left asshole on the internet, from gamergaters & Trump white supremacists to uber leftists with hammer and sickle glyphs in their display names.

Extremists of every stripe are detrimental to progress and general human welfare. Nothing good ever comes of rule by extremism - a reality we are sadly witnessing right now.

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austin_blue  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:56:36pm

In a lovely moment on the 10:00 news, a sportscaster on KVUE in Austin tonight noted that a redshi(-r)t freshman made a field goal that won a basketball game in the NCAA playoffs.

Was that unclear? Redshirt vs. Redshit.

Brilliant!

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Lidane  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:56:50pm

Oh. Hey. Guess who was Andrew Napolitano’s source for the GCHQ wiretap story that caused an international incident:

nytimes.com

But Mr. Napolitano’s unlikely leap into global politics can be explained by his friendship with Mr. Trump, whom he met with this year to discuss potential Supreme Court nominees. Mr. Napolitano also has a taste for conspiracy theories, which led him to Larry C. Johnson, a former intelligence officer best known for spreading a hoax about Michelle Obama.

That’s right, kids. Agent Flowbee is the reason that the United States had to apologize to the UK for spreading easily disprovable bullshit.

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 10:59:13pm

re: #176 wheat-dogg

A word of advice here. To observe copyright and to protect our humble host from potential lawsuits, please don’t republish more than four paragraphs from another source. Interested parties can read more at the link provided.

Thx

Plus for me I personally prefer quoting an excerpt that supports my point rather than the entire article as well.

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austin_blue  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:01:15pm

re: #189 Lidane

Oh. Hey. Guess who was Andrew Napolitano’s source for the GCHQ wiretap story that caused an international incident:

nytimes.com

That’s right, kids. Agent Flowbee is the reason that the United States had to apologize to the UK for spreading easily disprovable bullshit.

Shocked! Shocked I say!

Actually, not. Alt-facts, alt-news, alt-sources. alt-reality…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:01:33pm

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:02:09pm

re: #187 Moebym

Extremists of every stripe are detrimental to progress and general human welfare. Nothing good ever comes of rule by extremism - a reality we are sadly witnessing right now.

I can believe the wingnuts on the right doing this. While I have no love for lefty extremists, I find it difficult to believe they would attack Kurt Eichenwald this way (or put something so obvious like a hammer and sickle logo up as an avatar).

Perhaps I’m wrong about that, I don’t know. Of all the lefties I know (other than left-handed people), I am the leftiest. No one I know would consider any sort of assault on someone else.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:09:27pm

re: #112 electrotek

publicdata.com is your friend… The registered owner does not have a Facebook page that I can find, but there is a linked-in matching the name.

Edit: It’s a handy website to be signed up for, if you’re in the states with DMV searches. Besides work-related searches, it was good for buying vehicles, you could search by plate number and see if there was a lien on the vehicle, etc.

I also used it one time to look up a guy on northbound 360 in GP who had an “HH 88” in his custom plate number… Turned out he lived fairly close by. He’s probably a neighbor of the van owner. :P

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:10:39pm

Sweet dreams … of resignation/impeachment!

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:12:13pm
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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:13:43pm
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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:18:09pm

Milo is still at it again:

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:23:39pm

Weaselzippers and Daily Caller are claiming Eichenwald’s report to the police is fake. (Why am I not surprised.)

And why did the Dallas Morning News put this bit in scare quotes? WTF?
dallasnews.com

Eichenwald tweeted that the man who “assaulted” him also is expected to be indicted by the Dallas district attorney on different charges in the next few days.

Eichenwald’s attorney, Steven Liberman, told Newsweek that “What Mr. Rivello did with his Twitter message was no different from someone sending a bomb in the mail or sending an envelope filled with anthrax spores.”

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:42:29pm

More fiscal conservatism:
Trump’s Kids and Families to Visit Aspen This Weekend (goes to the Aspen Times)

A large contingent of President Donald Trump’s children and grandchildren are scheduled to vacation in Aspen this weekend, sources said Thursday.

U.S. Secret Service agents met recently with members of the Aspen Police Department, though they did not ask for assistance with the Trumps, according to an area law enforcement source who requested anonymity.

The Trump family is expected to arrive in Aspen late Saturday night or early Sunday morning, along with about 100 Secret Service agents, a source said.

(more at the link)

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electrotek  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:43:34pm

Anyone remember Ehsan Jami?

I didn’t realize he’s still around. He’s an obvious shill for Trump now, and couldn’t help but to respond to this tweet:

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:43:35pm

I’ve been watching some videos of my girl, Senri Kawaguchi. Check the drum solo she does at the end of this one. Around the 7:00 mark she drops a stick, keeps up everything else going, picks it up like nothing happened.

Tank! / Jazz Lab Orchestra featuring Senri Kawaguchi

I saw her perform live in Tokyo in January for her 20th birthday concert.

20, and already a veteran performer.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:45:25pm

re: #200 Anymouse

I assume Trump is not going there to ski. He would probably need help putting on boots and binding them.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:46:52pm

re: #199 Anymouse

I really do wonder what their thought process was around using those quotes. SMH

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:48:14pm

re: #203 wheat-dogg

Dude is afraid of stairs, hills, water and Chancellor Merkel. He’ll be inside watching trash news.

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Anymouse  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:50:11pm

re: #203 wheat-dogg

I assume Trump is not going there to ski. He would probably need help putting on boots and binding them.

Mr. Trump isn’t going to Aspen (he’s going to West Palm Beach to try out the new taxpayer funded helipad at his resort). Trump’s children and grandchildren are going to Aspen.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:52:17pm

re: #202 wheat-dogg

Badass!!!

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Moebym  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:54:29pm

re: #202 wheat-dogg

Thanks so much for posting that. I love seeing skilled drummers in action, and with the addition of music from Cowboy Bebop, it’s even better.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:56:04pm

re: #206 Anymouse

Mr. Trump isn’t going to Aspen (he’s going to West Palm Beach to try out the new taxpayer funded helipad at his resort). Trump’s children and grandchildren are going to Aspen.

Got it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:56:39pm

re: #208 Moebym

Thanks so much for posting that. I love seeing skilled drummers in action, and with the addition of music from Cowboy Bebop, it’s even better.

Check her YouTube channel.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2017 • 11:59:56pm
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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:00:19am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

Got it.

In the article at the Aspen Times, the county sheriff when asked about providing county services basically said “meh.” He notes that due to the popularity of Aspen as a resort, the county does not provide services unless paid or unless some sort of official government event.

Palm Beach County in Florida is stuck however, because all of Trump’s trips there are some sort of “official” government event - this weekend its about addressing the Veterans Administration without having the Department of Veterans Affairs administrator there.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:14:38am

re: #202 wheat-dogg

Again…. Boom! She’s something else!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:18:33am

Milage… How it works.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:24:35am
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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:24:57am

re: #214 Dave In Austin

And she was so ready and comfortable. She knew she’d be dealing with a child. She’s dealt with plenty like him before.

She’s built for this you fascist fuck!!!

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:27:48am

Kurt Eichenwald releases the US Attorney statement on the arrest:

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:34:24am

Once again they’re at it with the strobe comments, the first is very classy (didn’t see others as I closed the tab) - a flashing swastika.

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:34:26am

And America gets less representatively festive. Just sad.

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:38:22am

This tentative first world country has a loooonnnnngggg way to go. We could have made great strides last November, but nope.

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teleskiguy  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:42:01am
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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:46:59am

Mr. Eichenwald’s latest tweet needs someone to go through it and flag all the further assaults so Jack Dorsey can claim Freeze Peach and not do anything about it.

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:53:02am

re: #221 teleskiguy

Nope, she’ll first consider her direct business interests then maybe…her indirect ones.

I guess within that frame she might help.
Dad, please don’t bomb my factories!

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teleskiguy  Mar 18, 2017 • 12:57:39am

re: #223 JordanRules

You’re more cynical than I right now. I hope the LGF cynicism well doesn’t reach bottom.

I do think that Ivanka is some kind of better force on the family. I hope she’s good.

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Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:03:13am
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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:05:17am

re: #224 teleskiguy

I understand and cycle between super cynacism and remaining hope for a more perfect union.

I do tend to think folks project good intentions onto her for reasons that have to do with really deep unconscious bias and straw-grasping in the face of scary developments​. She’s lied, shown wild hypocrisy and is a horrible business person.

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:06:41am

re: #221 teleskiguy

I’ve alerted an active Twitterer friend.

ETA: my bad, reply was meant for comment 222

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majii  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:15:19am

re: #222 Anymouse

I read an article that said the FBI is investigating others who re-tweeted Rivello’s tweet on last December, so I don’t think the investigation is complete at this time.

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teleskiguy  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:18:49am

re: #226 JordanRules

She’s also the only Trump kid who’s a woman. As a fella who has three sisters and no brothers, I see Ivanka as *some* kind of moderating force. I agree she’s as cutthroat as any when it comes to business. Now she’s in a unique spot, close adviser to the SCROTUS.

I can dream, can’t I?

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:20:40am

re: #228 majii

I read an article that said the FBI is investigating others who re-tweeted Rivello’s tweet on last December, so I don’t think the investigation is complete at this time.

I suspect the FBI is continuing to run down leads (anyone connected to the accused’s tweets or E-mails). That said, it would be Jeff Sessions’s Justice Department that has to decide whether to pursue the case (my understanding is that the Maryland district has file cyberstalking charges, which might be tough to prove though I’m not a lawyer), and that the Dallas district attorney is considering other charges (as Mr. Eichenwald lives in Dallas and filed a complaint there, regardless of what the wingnuts at Weasel Zippers and Daily Caller are claiming).

Oh man, I have a severe headache. Thanks, Twitter assholes.

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teleskiguy  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:23:06am

re: #229 teleskiguy

To be clear, I think that Ivanka sitting in on these sensitive diplomatic meetings with her pops is fucked. If she needs to be at these meetings, designate her as some kind of adviser!

Who am I kidding? Fuckface Von Clownstick is reveling in his unchecked power and prestige.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:29:29am

Iowa Attorney General: “Drinkable Sunscreen Flat-Out Dangerous”
consumerist.com

Instead of slathering yourself with messy sunscreen, wouldn’t it be a lot easier if you could just drink a magic potion that would protect you from harmful UV rays? One product says it can do just that, but the state of Iowa alleges that such claims are not only unproven, but dangerous.

Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller alleges in a lawsuit [PDF] filed this week that the owner of Osmosis LLC and Harmonized Water LLC has failed to prove that the companies’ products provide advertised protection against cancer-causing ultraviolet rays.

The lawsuit alleges that the defendants marketed their “UV Neutralizer” product as the “world’s first drinkable sunscreen” — without any valid testing to back those claims up.

More dippyness at the link.

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Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:31:05am

re: #225 Teukka

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Update: Orly airport: Man killed after taking soldier’s gun

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:31:20am

re: #229 teleskiguy

Tiffany says hi! And as a step and half sibling that means something to me.
I’ve also never seen pic of him with the boys when they were young. She was the focal point in sometimes creepy ways. That doesn’t mean she couldn’t have gone awesomely rogue but she’s shown the opposite. She is a classic enabler and her husband is just as effed up as her pops.

By all means, find some silver linings, I just don’t think she deserves your possible good intentions (or even less sadistic intentions) arguments at the moment.

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:49:05am
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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:52:08am
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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 1:58:41am

Somewhere Boehner sips his whiskey and smiles a bit.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 2:02:11am

Why is FOX News HR trying to cover for Sean Hannity allegedly drawing a gun on Juan Williams by claiming he has concealed carry permits in multiple states, and claiming he is well-versed in firearms safety? And Mr. Hannity claiming the gun was unloaded?

All that has zip to do with firearms safety. Moreover, what use is a concealed firearm if it is unloaded? “Please wait Mr. Robber while I load my gun?” Unless he’s planning to beat someone with it, an unloaded gun is pretty much useless.

Geez, I’m a gun-hating liberal (who owns a gun) that wouldn’t join the NRA if you waterboarded me and I know the first rule of gun safety (since I was a child):

Always assume a gun is loaded, even if you just checked it, even if it never leaves your hand. (As put to me in boot camp, assume that a bullet magically teleported into the breech.)

Rule two: Do not point any weapon (gun, harpoon, bow and arrow, trebuchet, broadside) at something you do not want to shoot. Presume any living thing you shoot you will kill.

I would think that the CNN report (which the reporter still stands behind) would be enough for the New York police to go after Lumpy - even without a complaint from Juan Williams (assuming the witnesses to the event were willing to testify).

Ah, never mind. No one is going to go after Hannity.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 3:25:48am

Poignant story of an Irish girl who was darker than her Anglo-Irish parents, and how she discovered why her skin tone was so different from the rest of the family.

theguardian.com

And she’s a travel blogger. Twitter handle @girlunfurled

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 3:45:53am

re: #239 wheat-dogg

Poignant story of an Irish girl who was darker than her Irish parents, and how she discovered why her skin tone was so different from the rest of the family.

theguardian.com

And she’s a travel blogger. Twitter handle @girlunfurled

I read the Guardian article. It sounds like the woman lived a real-life unfunny reverse of Steve Martin’s “I was born a poor black child” bit.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2017 • 3:57:58am
A man was shot dead Saturday after seizing a rifle from a soldier guarding Paris’ Orly Airport, police and witnesses said. No one else in the busy terminal was hurt, but thousands of travelers were evacuated and flights were diverted to the city’s other airport.

Paris police were investigating whether the incident was linked to a shooting earlier Saturday during a traffic stop north of Paris. The Paris police office says a man fired birdshot at officers who stopped him, wounding one in the face. He then fled and stole a woman’s car after threatening her with a weapon. That car was found near Orly.

French national police said that only one man was involved in the airport attack and denied reports of a possible second attacker. No information about the slain man or any other injuries was available a police official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to be publicly named.

wtop.com

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 4:04:57am

Googling around my family’s names turned up a disturbing thing.

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harlequinade  Mar 18, 2017 • 4:37:00am

re: #242 Anymouse

While it’s a completely different kettle of fish

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All the animal metaphors!!

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 4:48:03am

re: #243 harlequinade

While it’s a completely different kettle of fish

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All the animal metaphors!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2017 • 4:56:44am

re: #142 electrotek

The Dutch colonial history is not relevant when discussing the threat from ISIS and radical Islam

fixed that for him…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 5:18:59am

I know plenty of people have commented on Trump’s atrocious behavior during the meeting with Angela Merkel, but does anyone else get a sense of Trump’s awkwardness in social situations in this shot?

Image: 18prexy-web-superJumbo.jpg

Merkel seems poised and relaxed, though the Oval Office is not her turf. Trump is leaning forward with his hands between his knees, looking tense and out of place, as if he’s not comfortable with the whole situation.

During his meeting with Obama, he had a similar posture.

I’m not an expert in body language, but the man is broadcasting his insecurity with the way he sits in a chair. I mean, he should at least look like he’s the boss and not like some kid waiting outside the principal’s office.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2017 • 5:30:28am

re: #246 wheat-dogg

I know plenty of people have commented on Trump’s atrocious behavior during the meeting with Angela Merkel, but does anyone else get a sense of Trump’s awkwardness in social situations in this shot?

Image: 18prexy-web-superJumbo.jpg

Merkel seems poised and relaxed, though the Oval Office is not her turf. Trump is leaning forward with his hands between his knees, looking tense and out of place, as if he’s not comfortable with the whole situation.

During his meeting with Obama, he had a similar posture.

I’m not an expert in body language, but the man is broadcasting his insecurity with the way he sits in a chair. I mean, he should at least look like he’s the boss and not like some kid waiting outside the principal’s office.

Trump is a deeply insecure man; this is magnified - and made glaringly manifest - when he’s in the presence of a person who outclasses him in every regard. It’s unconscious on his part, but his body language clearly reflects it.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 18, 2017 • 5:40:21am

Definitely, I see it. That’s why he’d rather be at Mar-a-Lago or Trump Towers. He knows that he doesn’t really belong in the WH. He’ll never be at ease there, esp. in these situations where he’s confronted with a genuinely competent statesperson. And, yes, there is the gender angle, too. Remember how he looked at HRC during the debates. He can’t stand strong women who don’t constantly praise him.

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harlequinade  Mar 18, 2017 • 5:49:48am

re: #244 Anymouse

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 5:55:07am

re: #247 Dr Lizardo

Trump is a deeply insecure man; this is magnified - and made glaringly manifest - when he’s in the presence of a person who outclasses him in every regard. It’s unconscious on his part, but his body language clearly reflects it.

It’s even worse when the person is female.

re: #248 Barefoot Grin

Definitely, I see it. That’s why he’d rather be at Mar-a-Lago or Trump Towers. He knows that he doesn’t really belong in the WH. He’ll never be at ease there, esp. in these situations where he’s confronted with a genuinely competent statesperson. And, yes, there is the gender angle, too. Remember how he looked at HRC during the debates. He can’t stand strong women who don’t constantly praise him.

Reports in the press say he doesn’t like walking long distances to meetings in the WH, and he may feel a certain hostility there, as well. Emolu-Lago is *his* property, where he is the boss. Ditto Trump Towers, though I think Melania gives him a frosty reception when he visits.

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steve_davis  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:01:08am

re: #10 A Cranky One

Narcissists like Twitler can’t ever admit being wrong. No matter what evidence is provided, he’ll refuse to accept it. Worse, he won’t be discouraged from trusting his right wing sources of information instead of the massive intelligence apparatus under his control.

I’d love for Obama to sue for libel and defamation. He won’t do it, because he respects the office of the Presidency too much. But I’d love to see it, just to have Cheeto Benito go ballistic.

Oh, I posted a picture of the perfect Trump era decorations in an earlier thread, but borked the link. Trying again:

Fireproof human skulls for your gas fireplace, barbecue or firepit

[Embedded content]

oh, i wouldn’t be at all surprised if Obama sues him for libel. At the moment, anything he does could potentially be met with Trump offering some mealy-mouthed non-apology apology, and because the bar for libel is so high with famous people, he could probably get away with that. Obama will wait until the rock has rolled all the way down the hill, when Trump has had numerous opportunities to offer up a sincere apology without doing so, and then he’ll hit him with a billion-dollar libel suit, all of which Obama will tell the world will go to charity. Then there won’t be any of that preliminary court bullshit where the judge tries hard to get both sides to enter into some amicable pre-trial settlement to save everyone a trial, and Obama will be able to say “the defendant had numerous opportunities to avoid litigation. Nothing he says at this point can be believed as a sincere effort at rapprochement. Defendant has routinely stated his net worth is 10 billion dollars. We feel that demanding 10% of that by way of damages is fair, given the gravity of his attack both against plaintiff and, through that attack, on the country as a whole.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:05:10am

re: #251 steve_davis

I’m pretty sure Trump does not have a $1 billion in cash at his disposal, so that would be a great way to humiliate him. The man is in hock up to his ears, property rich and cash poor. He probably needs the presidential salary to make his debt payments, while he fleeces the nation for his weekly trips to his vacation home and Melania’s occupancy of the penthouse.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:06:04am

re: #156 Anymouse

With Trump sabre-rattling over North Korea and the Middle East, what’s the over/under on a reinstated military draft?

Zero. No way in hell that can pass Congress.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:09:51am

re: #249 harlequinade

I’m not sure what a “general message” is, but you also said post it as a reply to this so I will.

It turns out my sister’s wife of many years has developed a particularly nasty case of cancer which has wiped out their savings and retirement plans, and threatens my sister-in-law’s life.

My sister-in-law is now in a promising trial, but such things are exceedingly expensive. (I’ll leave it up to the class about what this garden-variety socialist thinks of capitalistic medical care in a First World nation - suffice to say Zombie Eyed Granny Starver’s budget plans will create a lot more of this.)

My sister launched a GoFundMe account a couple months ago. I put the link behind the privacy bar because (a) privacy and (b) Mr. Johnson might not really like his LGF platform used for private medical bill fundraising (if so, blow this comment off the site and let me know and I won’t do such a thing again).

My sister’s updates on the link explain what is going on with my sister-in-law’s treatment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:13:18am

re: #254 Anymouse

I’m not sure what a “general message” is, but you also said post it as a reply to this so I will.

It turns out my sister’s wife of many years has developed a particularly nasty case of cancer which has wiped out their savings and retirement plans, and threatens my sister-in-law’s life.

My sister had a bout with cancer, her husband had a nasty car accident and they had to declare bankruptcy over their medical bills. This sort of thing should not happen in any civilized society.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:15:57am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sister had a bout with cancer, her husband had a nasty car accident and they had to declare bankruptcy over their medical bills. This sort of thing should not happen in any civilized society.

There is a woman on our village library board who’s husband died two years ago.

They used to own a huge ranch in the north of the county. Cancer treatments were so expensive that not only did they have to sell their ranch and cattle for payments, but the county also held a fundraiser and businesses in the area donated things for an auction to raise further money.

She now lives in a tinier house than I do here in the village - savings and retirement completely wiped out.

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steve_davis  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:22:36am

re: #109 Anymouse

Two South Carolina Lawmakers Prepping Survivalist Communities to Restore the Fabric of America

South Carolina focusing on what’s important …

The wingnuttery is even worse after the opening of the article:

upstate south carolina. my stomping ground. fortunately, I live in a university town which means i actually have to drive ten or so miles before I have to worry about the hills having eyes.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:24:49am

re: #189 Lidane

Oh. Hey. Guess who was Andrew Napolitano’s source for the GCHQ wiretap story that caused an international incident:

nytimes.com

That’s right, kids. Agent Flowbee is the reason that the United States had to apologize to the UK for spreading easily disprovable bullshit.

He didn’t apologize. He never apologizes because he’s always right.

And today I see the WaPo is reporting that Kellyanne’s husband will be joining the Nepotism Administration to administer the dismantling of our civil rights.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:28:38am

re: #257 steve_davis

upstate south carolina. my stomping ground. fortunately, I live in a university town which means i actually have to drive ten or so miles before I have to worry about the hills having eyes.

My only experiences with South Carolina was driving through it on I-95 when I was in the Navy, and living in Charleston later as a homeless vet. (Let’s say I don’t have fond memories of South Carolina.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:29:22am

re: #259 Anymouse

My only experiences with South Carolina was driving through it on I-95 when I was in the Navy, and living in Charleston later as a homeless vet. (Let’s say I don’t have fond memories of South Carolina.)

“Homeless vet” is also something that should not happen in any civilized society.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:30:53am

re: #256 Anymouse

There is a woman on our village library board who’s husband died two years ago.

They used to own a huge ranch in the north of the county. Cancer treatments were so expensive that not only did they have to sell their ranch and cattle for payments, but the county also held a fundraiser and businesses in the area donated things for an auction to raise further money.

She now lives in a tinier house than I do here in the village - savings and retirement completely wiped out.

Girlfreind’s cousin is a pain management doctor in Texas, just bought himself a 16,000-square-foot house. And thanks to AHCA, he will probably be able to sell that shack and move into something roomier…

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:32:23am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Homeless vet” is also something that should not happen in any civilized society.

My wife did her part for veteran homelessness - she married me. (That’s a dark statement on veteran homelessness we tell others that ask how we met. It’s also true as I was still homeless when we met over the Internet.)

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:34:44am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Girlfreind’s cousin is a pain management doctor in Texas, just bought himself a 16,000-square-foot house. And thanks to AHCA, he will probably be able to sell that shack and move into something roomier…

16k feet? (okay, so I’m blending metric and customary measures) That’s only about sixteen times the size of my house.

Apparently unpaid vice-mayor and erotic Romance editor are the wrong professions to be in.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:35:20am

re: #223 JordanRules

Nope, she’ll first consider her direct business interests then maybe…her indirect ones.

I guess within that frame she might help.
Dad, please don’t bomb my factories!

I agree. She’s in it for the money like all Trumps are. She’s just a conduit to the “blind trust” so they always have inside information to use to make money.

Trump could be planning a nuclear war and Ivanka’s only concern would be how to profit from it.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:36:32am

re: #229 teleskiguy

She’s also the only Trump kid who’s a woman. As a fella who has three sisters and no brothers, I see Ivanka as *some* kind of moderating force. I agree she’s as cutthroat as any when it comes to business. Now she’s in a unique spot, close adviser to the SCROTUS.

I can dream, can’t I?

She’s not the only woman.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:45:43am

re: #265 Skip Intro

She’s not the only woman.

There is Melania - who our taxmoney goes to support to keep her in a gilt tower in Manhattan on the dubious claim she doesn’t want to pull her son out of school in the middle of the year (never met a military person I guess - I didn’t have that choice with my son).

There is Tiffany (Trump’s daughter via Marla Maples), who I don’t know a whole lot about but I understand stays as far away from Donald Trump as she can.

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jeffreyw  Mar 18, 2017 • 6:47:16am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:02:35am

Meanwhile:

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:13:01am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:16:13am

re: #269 Anymouse

Holy shit.

He’s a wannabe mafioso running a protection racket.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:16:50am

re: #270 wheat-dogg

Holy shit.

He’s a wannabe mafioso running a protection racket.

I’m guessing that’s his strong suit.

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Anymouse  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:19:22am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:21:22am

re: #217 Anymouse

I see on the the Wesearchr’s website that the whole point of funding the defense of the alleged prep is that they believe trolling is a First Amendment right.

Hate to break it to you clowns, but Freedom of Speect does not protect you against criminal acts. IANAL, but tince it was well publicized that Eichenwald suffered from a visually-induced seizure disorder, and by the evidence seized in the execution of the search warrant that it was prima facie the intent of the alleged perp that it was his intent to induce a seizure, I don’t see how he has a leg to stand on trying to use the First Amendment as any form of defense-and the risk of going to trial ratchets up the stakes that much higher. Furthermore, The Rage Furby stated that at the time Eichenwald read the tweet, Eichenwald was drinking, had not been taking his meds and was tired-how in the fuck does he know that shit-or is just the Ginger Avenger stirring up the pot with another falsehoold? (My money is on the latter.)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:22:18am

I just watched episode 1 of Iron Fist. Meh.

I know it’s based on a comic book, but could the writers throw a bone toward real life? How did Danny end up traveling from the Himalayas to the USA with (a) no money (b) no passport (c) no decent clothes (d) no common sense? He’s been gone 15 years and somehow expects everyone to recognize him with a full beard and hippie clothes that probably smell as bad as they look. He goes three days only eating a hero sandwich his panhandler friend got him. If I were a billionaire son coming back after being presumed dead, I’d at least spruce myself up a bit, because common sense would say no one running a multinational corporation is going to believe a guy dressed like a bum is the heir to the company.

Aaaannnnddd tthhheee pppllloootttt iiiisss ssssoooo sssslllooowwww!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:26:47am

re: #273 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’ve decided that Ginger Avenger is not worth my time to follow anymore. He’s beclowned himself so many times that I’m pretty sure no one takes him seriously anymore, except for his loyal addled fans who number in the hundreds.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:29:34am

I give up.

What font is used on the signs? Anyone? Please

[OFFICIAL VIDEO] Imagine - Pentatonix

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Birth Control Works  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:31:38am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Girlfreind’s cousin is a pain management doctor in Texas, just bought himself a 16,000-square-foot house. And thanks to AHCA, he will probably be able to sell that shack and move into something roomier…

Fundraisers —Trumps Healthcare Plan

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Birth Control Works  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:32:45am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are under the impression that we are civilized?

It’s morning and my head hurts

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:33:52am

re: #27 Anymouse

Erick Erickson re-Tweeting himself to “prove” his interpretation of Jesus is “the correct one”:

Erik son of Erik keeps referring to reading his “bible” in the the “original Greek.” Everyone knows that doG the Old Gods require you to read your religious texts in the original Old Enochian. All else if failure and failure results in possession and death.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:37:28am

Morning Lizardim.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:38:54am

re: #279 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Erik son of Erik keeps referring to reading his “bible” in the the “original Greek.” Everyone knows that doG the Old Gods require you to read your religious texts in the original Old Enochian. All else if failure and failure results in possession and death.

Except Jesus spoke primarily Aramaic. Oops.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:55:50am

re: #233 Teukka

Update: Orly airport: Man killed after taking soldier’s gun

re: #241 Timothy Watson

wtop.com

From what I’ve read this seems like some straight up nutcase or someone who really wanted to die. Not terrorism.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 7:56:41am

re: #276 Birth Control Works

Don’t know about the font, but Kevin Olusola, the AA guy in the group, was born in Owensboro, KY. I lived there for a time, but several years before he was even born.

I’d forgotten how great these guys are. Thanks!

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Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:02:51am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

From what I’ve read this seems like some straight up nutcase or someone who really wanted to die. Not terrorism.

What I hear, this dude was on a the security services watchlist.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:03:55am

re: #274 wheat-dogg

It’s terrible……..

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:09:18am

re: #266 Anymouse

There is Melania - who our taxmoney goes to support to keep her in a gilt tower in Manhattan on the dubious claim she doesn’t want to pull her son out of school in the middle of the year (never met a military person I guess - I didn’t have that choice with my son).

There is Tiffany (Trump’s daughter via Marla Maples), who I don’t know a whole lot about but I understand stays as far away from Donald Trump as she can.

Not anymore. She wants a job with daddy.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:11:08am

re: #281 thedopefishlives

Except Jesus spoke primarily Aramaic. Oops.

And couldn’t write. Opps #2.

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jaunte  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:12:32am

re: #273 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Rage Furby stated that at the time Eichenwald read the tweet, Eichenwald was drinking, had not been taking his meds and was tired

In nazi logic, ANY of the victim’s actions excuses assault.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:13:59am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

From what I’ve read this seems like some straight up nutcase or someone who really wanted to die. Not terrorism.

Suicide via cop kinda thing. Incomprehensible to me. All the tragedy of suicide. Plus the additional consequences of the incident.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:14:23am

re: #275 wheat-dogg

Especially after Auntie Beeb tore him into tiny little Rage Furby bits, I agree. However, since the arrest of Eichenwald’s perp and the fact that this eejet is trying to fund his defense, it’s a good reminder to show just how stupid he his.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:15:28am

re: #287 Skip Intro

And couldn’t write. Opps #2.

Well, I was more to the point that the “original Greek” isn’t original. It’s a transliteration of the Aramaic by Jesus’ educated friends, who could write. And so began the chain of translations that has continued for 2000 years.

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freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:21:04am

re: #291 thedopefishlives

Sergey and I went around and around… over a year in duration I think… deconstructing the entire Synoptic Gospel problem, the Historical Jesus problem, etc.

My extra short summary: there is no reason to believe the original Gospels were written in anything but Greek. They, or rather, the original material, were written by Greek speaker(s) for a Greek audience. The Gospels are a synthesis of religious ideas from the Jewish diaspora into the worldview of the Greek philosophical world, and my position further is that the Gospels are cast into a form for plays, a form of theatre for the religious community, as most would have been illiterate.

So, it doesn’t really make much sense to argue over what some original Jesus would have done or said. What we have today is a religious synthesis of various ideas that stretch all the way back to early polytheism.

Son of Erick and his ilk are just working their marks, over and over again.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:21:30am

re: #291 thedopefishlives

My point is Jesus never wrote down a thing he said. That was done by others, decades after his death.

And then it was copied over and over (character by character, with errors, usually by people who couldn’t read) so even that could then be completely be misinterpreted by pious hacks like Erickson.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:22:43am

re: #290 Eric The Fruit Bat

Especially after Auntie Beeb tore him into tiny little Rage Furby bits, I agree. However, since the arrest of Eichenwald’s perp and the fact that this eejet is trying to fund his defense, it’s a good reminder to show just how stupid he his.

Yeah, the Beeb correspondents pretty much chewed him up and spit him out. “Oh, how very interesting. Thank you for your completely idiotic commentary, and now we are cutting you off. Goodbye.”

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:23:22am

re: #284 Teukka

What I hear, this dude was on a the security services watchlist.

re: #289 Unshaken Defiance

Suicide via cop kinda thing. Incomprehensible to me. All the tragedy of suicide. Plus the additional consequences of the incident.

Statements made by a “nutcase” could easily be interrupted as “radicalized”. And, brown skinned nutcases are apt to be placed on watch lists.
Initially he shot at officers with a pellet/BB gun. I do not see a “terrorist” wandering around Paris carrying a pellet gun. Such an action is asking to be apprehended, and questioned. Surely something a would be terrorist would aim to avoid, at all costs.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:28:04am

re: #285 Dave In Austin

It’s terrible……..

I read the reviews, and I figured, oh man, it can’t be that bad. Except, well, it is.

Arrow did a much better job with the rich man’s son returning from the dead shtick. This Iron Fist plotting moves as slow as a Rachel Maddow opening. I’ll try a few more eps, but I’m thinking they’re going to need new writers if they intend to continue to another season.

Or maybe the idea was just to introduce Danny to a TV audience in preparation for The Defenders.

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freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:38:19am

re: #274 wheat-dogg

I just watched episode 1 of Iron Fist. Meh.

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I’m about to try it… you’re sort of convincing me to not spend the time…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:58:12am

re: #297 freetoken

I’m about to try it… you’re sort of convincing me to not spend the time…

Arrow brought back Oliver Queen from the dead, reintroduced him to his mom, sis and friends, and immediately got him to work doing vigilante stuff all within 42 minutes.

Iron Fist spends an hour bringing Danny Rand back from the dead, introduces him to two old friends who don’t believe he’s Danny Rand, dead guy, a female martial artist (Colleen Wing) who blows him off, and a homeless guy. And that’s about it. There is some kung fu action, but no Iron Fisting.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 18, 2017 • 8:59:46am

And now I shall retire for the night, having dispensed my TV scripting wisdom to the multitudes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:03:20am

re: #287 Skip Intro

And couldn’t write. Opps #2.

Actually there is a scripture in which he writes something in the sand (it is never revealed what) so he was at least capable of some form of written communication.

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BeachDem  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:04:35am

“I’m not a big media press access person. I personally don’t need it”

So says our SoS. Hey, Tillerson—your personal needs have zero to do with your current job, you douchenozzle.

Oh, and his secondary reason for taking only a right-wing stenographer is that he’s trying to save money. Uh huh.

huffingtonpost.com;

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jaunte  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:04:46am

Once again a Trump supporter surprised that a billionaire who inherited his wealth doesn’t care about sick poor people.

“…It works for 56-year-old Linda Preast, who signed up for the program two years ago after a stroke left her in a wheelchair. Meals on Wheels delivers to her every weekday. Like most residents in Jones County, she voted for Donald Trump.

“Are you surprised?” Miller asked.

“Yeah,” Preast said. “Because he was told- I was under the influence that he was going to help us.”

“What would you say to him to convince him not to cut this program?” Miller asked.

“What if it was your momma?” Preast said.
cbsnews.com

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JordanRules  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:08:54am

re: #301 BeachDem

They have no concept of public service.

Not anymore?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:09:15am

re: #302 jaunte

Considering that Drumpf would throw his mom under the bus for a buck, I don’t think those words would have the effect that woman wants.

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ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:15:47am

re: #268 Anymouse

Meanwhile:

[Embedded content]

The Spectator Index @spectatorindex
GERMANY: Foreign ministry official calls Trump ‘small and pathetic’ for his behaviour with Angela Merkel at the White House
4:17 PM - 17 Mar 2017
4,283 4,283 Retweets 5,334 5,334 likes

Good to see the foreign media telling it like it is.

I hope all the world press bashed his act with Merkel.

Maybe it will give some cover to our own media to do the same.

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Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:19:05am

re: #302 jaunte

Once again a Trump supporter surprised that a billionaire who inherited his wealth doesn’t care about sick poor people.

“What if it was your momma?” Preast said.

This, you stupid woman.

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jaunte  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:19:28am

He’s going to make us waste billions on his can’t-be-wrong ego.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:20:21am

re: #307 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He’s going to make us waste billions on his can’t-be-wrong ego.

Seen on Facebook: “He should build the border wall out of Hillary’s emails because nobody can get over them.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:20:48am

re: #276 Birth Control Works

I give up.

What font is used on the signs? Anyone? Please

[Embedded content]

Video

None…handwritten.

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Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:21:08am

re: #307 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He’s going to make us waste billions on his can’t-be-wrong ego.

Thought of the day:

[tinfoil]Ever consider that such a wall, apart from keeping people out, will keep them in?[/tinfoil]

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:25:50am

Hmmmm….
Bloomberg: Russia’s Alfa Bank Says Cyberattacks Falsely Tie It to Trump

Alfa Bank said it was a victim of hackers intent on giving a false impression that the Russian lender has communicated with the Trump Organization, and it’s asking U.S. law enforcement authorities for help.

The bank said Friday that it was hit by three attempted domain name server (DNS) attacks since mid-February. Unidentified individuals made DNS requests to a Trump Organization server disguised to look as if they came from Alfa Bank, prompting responses from the Trump server back to the lender, the bank said in a statement. The DNS attacks came from individuals using U.S. servers, including some hosted by Google and Amazon, the bank said.

Alfa Bank said it had offered U.S. law enforcement agencies its full cooperation to track down the people behind the suspected cyberattacks. It has separately hired a U.S. cyber forensics firm, Stroz Friedberg, to investigate the attacks.

“The cyberattacks are an attempt by unknown parties to manufacture the illusion of contact between Alfa Bank’s DNS servers and ‘Trump servers,’ ” an Alfa Bank representative said in a statement. “We have gone to the U.S. Justice Department and offered our complete cooperation to get to the bottom of this sham and fraud.”

New Questions

Granted, DNS looks are somewhat innocuous on their own. But if other ports get opened (say, FTP/SFTP/HTTPS/RDP), then the plot thickens…

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ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:26:46am

re: #293 Skip Intro

My point is Jesus never wrote down a thing he said. That was done by others, decades after his death.

And then it was copied over and over (character by character, with errors, usually by people who couldn’t read) so even that could then be completely be misinterpreted by pious hacks like Erickson.

Faith means you don’t need facts of any kind, historical, etc.

Amazing that people can then use this faith to go out and fuck with others thinking they have some kind of rights to do so.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:35:03am
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Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:35:23am

Totally off-topic, but a freshly baked Swedish design PhD plays with reversing designs for males and females…
static-cdn.sr.se
Image: a2d782bf-14e5-40e5-8128-3ba03b2bec0d.jpg
Mixer designed as a mens tool, and cordless drill as a womens tool.

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Andrology chair. Designed to make men feels as vulnerable as women in a gynology chair.


Article: sverigesradio.se (Swedish)

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:36:59am

Didn’t he tweet this from his account this morning?

Now the staff re-typing it out verbatim on an iPhone?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:39:09am

The castrator getting castrated-Karam strikes again….

AP: Sen. Joni Ernst faces hostile crowd at town hall meetings

Republican Sen. Joni Ernst met with confrontational crowds in Des Moines and Cedar Rapids Friday where she was repeatedly shouted down and booed over the GOP health care reform plan, an issue which dominated both meetings.

Protest signs dotted the Des Moines audience including those which said “Poverty is not a choice,” ”Health Care For All” and “Investigate Trump.”

She drew applause at both meetings when she said Donald Trump should release his tax returns.

However, for much of the hour-long meetings in a packed 1,100-seat auditorium at Coe College in Cedar Rapids and a nearly full 780-seat room at Drake University in Des Moines, she endured shouting and booing.

Ernst drew laughter and booing when she said many of the millions of people likely to lose insurance under the House GOP health care bill will willingly chose not to buy insurance once the mandates under the current law are lifted.

“We need clarification on how many of those are folks that will choose not to engage in health care,” she said, interrupted by shouts of “read the report.” She answered back, “I do have the report, thank you.”

Another questioner in Cedar Rapids said more Iowans support keeping the Affordable Care Act than repealing it, asking: “How do you sleep at night knowing you’re pursuing a partisan agenda on these issues and others instead of following the will of your constituents?”

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Joe Bacon  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:39:10am

Trump and the RepubliKKKlans demand that we bow down before our Corporate Masters!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:40:15am

re: #317 Joe Bacon

There is no Comcast in my house. :)

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Lupin  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:44:30am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

From what I’ve read this seems like some straight up nutcase or someone who really wanted to die. Not terrorism.

While I’m sure we all appreciate the attention and the sympathy, it is a bit disturbing to see the extreme focus devoted by the US media to French crimes, looking with barely disguised ghoulish glee for any possible connection to jihadism.

Yesterday’s shooting in Grasse was by a disturbed teenager, and thanks to our gun laws, there were only 4 persons lightly wounded directly (+ 4 in the ensuing panic).

Today’s Orly event was a petty criminal who was on the lam from the police after exchanging shots yesterday.

Last year we had something like 40 dead in Marseille due to various drug dealers settling accounts etc. A number of them, I’m sure, had Arab-sounding patronyms; yet none of this is related to jihadism, and frankly it’s been going on for a while.

This unhealthy obsession should stop.

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Lupin  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:49:40am

Re: Caligula’s morning tweet re NATO and Germany.

Advertising a huge increase in military spending is not the right way to convince people to fork out more money to NATO.

“We are going to decrease spending so we need you to kick in more $$” would have been the logical play.

Besides, France is the world’s 3rd largest nuclear power (before China) and I’m sure they’d support Germany if needed.

I don’t quite see what leverage Trump has, not what his end game is. Frankly, it seems a stupid thing to tweet.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:49:57am

re: #317 Joe Bacon

Trump and the RepubliKKKlans demand that we bow down before our Corporate Masters!

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But where is Trump on that map? We’ve all heard that he’s the biggest, the best.

As a side note, UHG is an on-again, off-again client of ours. Working with corporate bureaucracy of that size can be incredibly frustrating.

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Lupin  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:54:45am

re: #302 jaunte

Once again a Trump supporter surprised that a billionaire who inherited his wealth doesn’t care about sick poor people.

As I said before, people will have to die before the country comes to its senses, and by “people” I mean GRAPES OF WRATH numbers, when everyone knows at least one person who did.

The irony is that Trump supporters will die in greater numbers.

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wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2017 • 9:55:25am

re: #319 Lupin

This unhealthy obsession should stop.

Trump lives for it. He doesn’t care who might die for it.

324
BeachDem  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:00:20am

re: #316 Eric The Fruit Bat

The castrator getting castrated-Karam strikes again….

AP: Sen. Joni Ernst faces hostile crowd at town hall meetings

“We need clarification on how many of those are folks that will choose not to engage in health care,”

I once chose not to engage in having breast cancer, but my “choice” went unheard.

What. A. Moron. (put those bread bags on your feet and get back to us later, Joni.)

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bratwurst  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:06:31am

When I was in Spain last year, I had to find out if the city of Granada had really named a public square after the late Joe Strummer.

Turns out they did.

326
Teukka  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:07:39am

I know, the source…

327
Jay C  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:14:28am

re: #302 jaunte

Once again a Trump supporter surprised that a billionaire who inherited his wealth doesn’t care about sick poor people.

“Under the influence….”

Keyword/ Freudian slip??

328
freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:15:37am

I dare any so-called journalist who makes it into the WH Press room to ask Trump or Spicer about this incident:

At least 40 Somali refugees killed by air strike off Yemen coast: UNHCR

At least 40 Somali refugees were killed off the coast of Yemen late on Thursday when a helicopter attacked the boat they were traveling in, the United Nations refugee agency said.

Mohamed al-Alay, a coast guard officer in the Houthi-controlled Hodeidah area, told Reuters the refugees, carrying official UNHCR documents, were on their way from Yemen to Sudan when they were attacked by an Apache helicopter near the Bab al-Mandeb strait.

[…]

So, if it wasn’t us… or someone to whom we sold this helicopter (was it???), then it was someone who bought said helicopter on the used market?

The Saudi-led coalition that is fighting Houthi forces in Yemen said it did not conduct any operations or have any engagement in the Hodeidah area on Thursday.

They claim.

I doubt Trump even cares. He’s not to be bothered with the slaughtering of civilians.

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jeffreyw  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:22:11am

Imgur
Lunch time!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:25:09am
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Belafon  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:25:12am

re: #329 jeffreyw

My middle son and I are at our favorite Indian restaurant, Kebab N Kurry. The rest of the family is meh about it, so we sneak over when we can.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:25:44am

re: #331 Belafon

My middle son and I are at our favorite Indian restaurant, Kebab Nancy Kurry. The rest of the family is men about it, so we sneak over when we can.

I haven’t had Indian food in a while. Thanks for the craving.///

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freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:27:33am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rabble rousing liberals… they are a minority now in that state. Joni Ernest a couple of years ago replaced a liberal stalwart, which was about as good a warning sign of the coming of Trump that there was. When Iowa joined the Confederacy we should have known we were screwed.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:29:35am

re: #333 freetoken

Rabble rousing liberals… they are a minority now in that state. Joni Ernest a couple of years ago replaced a liberal stalwart, which was about as good a warning sign of the coming of Trump that there was. When Iowa joined the Confederacy we should have known we were screwed.

To be fair, Hillary did contest the state.

335
freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:32:36am

re: #334 Timothy Watson

To be fair, Hillary did contest the state.

Yes, but still lost it.

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freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:33:43am

Trump ravages the world:

US ‘forces G20 to drop any mention of climate change’ in joint statement

The oil exporters (e.g., KSA) were more than glad to help Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:36:21am
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freetoken  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:37:49am

Get these stories while we can, as GISS is probably in the crosshairs of the Trump machine:

February 2017 Was Second Warmest February On Record

Image: LOTI_201702_robin_sf200.png

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jaunte  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:38:07am

“…On Saturday Ivo Daalder, who was permanent representative to Nato from 2009 to 2013, respond to Trump in a series of Tweets.

“Sorry, Mr President, that’s not how Nato works,” he wrote. “The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato. This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.

“All Nato countries, including Germany, have committed to spend 2% of GDP on defense by 2024. So far five of 28 Nato countries do. Those who currently don’t spend 2% of their GDP on defense are now increasing their defense budgets. That’s a good thing.
But no funds will be paid to the US. They are meant to increase Nato’s overall defense capabilities, given the growing Russian threat. Europe must spend more on defense, but not as favor (or payment) to the US. But because their security requires it.”

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Nyet  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:45:44am

re: #293 Skip Intro

My point is Jesus never wrote down a thing he said. That was done by others, decades after his death.

And then it was copied over and over (character by character, with errors, usually by people who couldn’t read) so even that could then be completely be misinterpreted by pious hacks like Erickson.

Absolutely right. Indeed, even the evidence for Jesus’ existence is very scarce, much less that he said most of the things ascribed to him in the gospels.

As to whether Erickson misinterprets the gospels, it’s not a given. Historically that verse about the poor has been interpreted both ways.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:45:55am

re: #339 jaunte

‘That’s not how it works’: Trump’s grasp of Nato everything questioned after Merkel tweets

FTFY

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Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:52:18am
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electrotek  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:53:17am

re: #331 Belafon

My middle son and I are at our favorite Indian restaurant, Kebab N Kurry. The rest of the family is meh about it, so we sneak over when we can.

Is that in Richardson?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:56:33am

re: #342 Charles Johnson

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Hope his resume is up to date…

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Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:57:26am

re: #344 Timothy Watson

Hope his resume is up to date…

Never mind, he’s getting ready to retire so he must be at the “fuck this shit” phase:

On February 3, 2017, Ledgett announced that he would be retiring in the spring. His replacement was reported to be George Barnes.[4]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:58:56am
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jeffreyw  Mar 18, 2017 • 10:59:28am

re: #331 Belafon

My middle son and I are at our favorite Indian restaurant, Kebab Nancy Kurry. The rest of the family is men about it, so we sneak over when we can.

Pictures! OIDH

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 18, 2017 • 11:19:04am

re: #312 ObserverArt

When people use ‘faith’ to fuck with other people that ‘faith’ isn’t faith. It’s an excuse.


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