Another Loss for Trump: Hawaii Judge Denies Request to Limit Muslim Ban Injunction

Trump loses the first fight over his second attempt at an unconstitutional order
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The Trump Justice Department filed a motion asking federal Judge Derrick Watson to limit his injunction against Trump’s second attempt at banning Muslims and refugees from entering the US, but today in Hawaii Judge Watson denied this request.

He’s losing every legal fight so far over his unconstitutional bigoted attempt to force a ban on Muslim immigration on America.

“The Motion … asks the Court to make a distinction that the Federal Defendants’ previous briefs and arguments never did,” Watson wrote in his new order. “As important, there is nothing unclear about the scope of the Court’s order….(“Defendants…are hereby enjoined from enforcing or implementing Sections 2 and 6 of the Executive Order across the Nation.”). The Federal Defendants’ Motion is DENIED.”

Next up, this second try at a Muslim ban will be heard by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, and it’s very likely that Judge Watson’s decision will be upheld.

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158 comments

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:10:25pm

I wonder how soon until some very bad things start happening to some of these Judges?

Not that I want to see that happen.

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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:11:00pm

He’s going to lose so much! You’ll get tired of watching him losing!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:11:40pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how soon until some very bad things start happening to some of these Judges?

Not that I want to see that happen.

I’m sure that The Bundy Bunch and their pals are already drawing up plans to defend Trump against them eeeeee-vile judges…

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:14:33pm

TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!!!!!

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:34:48pm

Spoilers for episode 4 of Iron Fist:

I understand Danny is a bleeding heart, but he’s also an idiot. Pricing a medicine at 10 times its production value, at most, is a bit of an assholish thing to do (and they wouldn’t make it into the recent top 10 list of medical price hikes), but research is also needed. He could have negotiated down the price, covering for new research into the illness in question.

This is a strength in the writing that I hope they keep using.

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:36:55pm

By the way, to all baseball fans, congratulations on the US team win!!

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b.d.  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:38:59pm

Thank God Trump isn’t very good at this…

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:39:16pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon

I’m sure that The Bundy Bunch and their pals are already drawing up plans to defend Trump against them eeeeee-vile judges…

Once they figure out how to reach Hawaii in their coal trucks.

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b.d.  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:40:28pm

re: #8 while(1) worries++;

Once they figure out how to reach Hawaii in their coal trucks.

lol, aren’t they boycotting Hawaii?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:40:45pm

sigh…

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wrenchwench  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:45:22pm
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Belafon  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:45:49pm

A good point about cutting Meels on Wheels:

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:48:16pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:51:35pm
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mmmirele  Mar 19, 2017 • 3:52:17pm

This afternoon, I painted this.

It’s on a sheet of 12 x 16 Arches oil paper, using Sennelier Grande oil pastels. I limited myself to a palette of orange, orange yellow and blue. (The orange and orange yellow was easy, I only have three in the Grande size. We’re going to rectify that.) After I’d finished laying down kind of an idea of the color, I turned the sheet upside down and laid down more color. I finished off by using a colorless burnisher. I’m actually kind of pleased with it. My major learning from this was to use wider tape on the border.

Abstract oil pastel
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:01:13pm

We are fortunate this Administration is so incompetent, or it could inflict much more damage. it will be bad enough as it is.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:02:28pm

re: #12 Belafon

A good point about cutting Meels on Wheels:

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Trump could pay the entire cost of MOW and more by not going on vacation every weekend and making us pay for his marital separation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:03:25pm

I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but Jimmy Breslin has died.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:04:50pm

re: #18 Big Beautiful Door

I think it was mentioned in a previous thread. RIP Mr Breslin.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:05:56pm

re: #14 stpaulbear

Poor, poor junior. His dawg just died, his best friend just ran off with his wife, and the Obamas stold his pickup truck. He’s a country song in the flesh, poor guy.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:06:08pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

Trump could pay the entire cost of MOW and more by not going on vacation every weekend and making us pay for his marital separation.

Well he IS taking suggestions as to where to donate his pay as POTUS. I would suggest MOW as a start.

Edit. /////

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:06:58pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:07:52pm

re: #21 Bubblehead II

Well he IS taking suggestions as to where to donate his pay as POTUS. I would suggest MOW as a start.

You know damn well that the “donation” will be to his foundation, where it will be laundered through his son Eric’s foundation, then make it back to Trump tax free, with interest.

He’s been doing this for years now.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:08:54pm

re: #15 mmmirele

Nice. I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:17:55pm

THE BEST WAY TO DIE

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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:18:06pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

Poor, poor junior. His dawg just died, his best friend just ran off with his wife, and the Obamas stold his pickup truck. He’s a country song in the flesh, poor guy.

And he thinks he can look like John Fogerty. He thinks Fortunate Son was written for him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:19:53pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:21:11pm

re: #16 Big Beautiful Door

We are fortunate this Administration is so incompetent, or it could inflict much more damage. it will be bad enough as it is.

Give Trump time. He isn’t fully lawyered up yet. By next year 90+% of Trump admin hires will be lawyers working on his personal behalf.

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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:23:20pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because that worked out so well for Florida when they did it.

Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them, according to the Department of Children and Families, which oversees Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, known as the TANF program.

The numbers, confirming previous estimates, show that taxpayers spent $118,140 to reimburse people for drug test costs, at an average of $35 per screening.

The state’s net loss? $45,780.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:23:22pm

Thoughts on the first four episodes of Iron Fist.

I watched the first few episodes of Iron Fist and am underwhelmed so far. It’s not a terrible show by any stretch but so far it doesn’t hold up really at all in comparison to Daredevil Season 1, Jessica Jones or Luke Cage. None of the characters are all that compelling or likable and all are presented with little to no depth.

My biggest complaint, coming off Luke Cage, is that the larger exposition portions don’t make up for their slowing of the plot by grounding it in an immersive historical context. They’re mostly just boring, or serve to spoon feed the audience bits of info like psych drugs mess with Danny’s chi or yeah his childhood friends are unbelievably huge douches now. There’s a persistent failure to craft the setting and treat it like a character in itself. Cage brought Harlem to life on the screen. Jessica Jones borrowed the already gritty Hell’s Kitchen setting from Daredevil and made it even more psychologically complex and morose. Iron Fist really misses an opportunity here to establish the same early on with the eerie disconnect between the homeless existence in New York City and the surrounding wealth. I can see that coming but I think they missed a huge opportunity early on.

So far I have no idea what’s really driving Danny. I know he was trained by “warrior monks” to become a “living weapon.” That’s a thin patina of backstory, he has no clear motivation or mission beyond the whole “enemy of the Hand” thing that was apparently drilled into him at Kun Lun. I’m sure that’s coming into play very soon but it doesn’t really feel personal compared to say the detailed, anguished origin that over time motivated Matt Murdoch to become Daredevil. I mean, Danny’s biggest personal struggle as far as I can tell is that he’s incredibly naïve and a shit judge of character. Not exactly compelling.

I’ll keep watching because I can see to an extent where it’s going, but I think it’ could’ve done a much better job early on establishing the its merits.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:25:27pm

re: #23 Skip Intro

You know damn well that the “donation” will be to his foundation, where it will be laundered through his son Eric’s foundation, then make it back to Trump tax free, with interest.

He’s been doing this for years now.

Thought the sarcasm was evident. Edited to show same.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:26:51pm

Tillerson apparently cribbed his remarks from President Xi Jinping’s remarks from the Obama days.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:28:29pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

I have watched the first 3 episodes. At times I find it entertaining, but there is a disjointedness to the whole thing that I can’t quite work out yet.

The main character acts way too childlike for his age. I gather this is intentional, as inside he’s still the small boy who lost his parents at a tender age. I see a lot of critics of this show not liking the main character, but I think these people are not just grokking the self-discovery path that he is apparently on.

Mostly this series strikes me as a bit less grandiose than some of the other Marvel attempts in recent years.

I still prefer the British show Stan Lee’s Lucky Man, probably because their actors are chosen for their acting ability, rather than just being sexy young bodies.

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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:28:33pm

re: #32 wheat-dogg

Tillerson apparently cribbed his remarks from President Xi Jinping’s remarks from the Obama days.

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No wonder he didn’t want to take the press with him.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:29:02pm

re: #31 Bubblehead II

Thought the sarcasm was evident. Edited to show same.

It was. I just felt like pointing out the obvious because I’m in that kind of a mood today.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:30:47pm

re: #29 stpaulbear

It’s the legislation of mean-spiritedness.

Instead of funding proper rehab, they’d rather just force people out on the streets.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:30:55pm

re: #32 wheat-dogg

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:31:29pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:33:53pm

re: #32 wheat-dogg

Can we all say plagiarism? /half

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Kragar  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:35:44pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:35:56pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

I’ve only watched the first two, but I read your comments anyway. Turns out you didn’t reveal much about #3 and 4, if there’s anything there to reveal.

Danny is still a child, mentally. I guess being raised by monks to be some kind of superweapon stunts your maturation into adulthood.

Case in point, from episode 2: the doctor meets with Danny to discuss his potential release after the 72-hour hold. Everything is going fine, until Danny volunteers that Kun Lun exists only in the astral plane, and appears on the earthly plane every 15 years. Plus, guess what doc? The monks told me I have a superpower, the Iron Fist, and my job is to be the enemy of the Hand!! Is that cool, or what? Can I go now?

Someone less childlike (as in anyone older than, say, 7) would have clammed up about the astral plane and superhero shit, even considering all the Avengers stuff serving as backstory. It appears Danny doesn’t know about it anyway.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:38:37pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

In China they are known as “party secretaries” and are there to make sure officials follow the Party line.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:48:07pm

I’d rather watch something more uplifting, like The Walking Dead…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:48:58pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:49:36pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am watching “The Sound of Music.” Very enjoyable. :)

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:49:40pm

re: #32 wheat-dogg

Tillerson apparently cribbed his remarks from President Xi Jinping’s remarks from the Obama days.

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And we try so hard to get our Chinese students to understand plagiarism. Welp….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:50:47pm

I read through this thread when she posted it the other day.
Just, wow…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:51:08pm

re: #45 PhillyPretzel

I am watching “The Sound of Music.” Very enjoyable. :)

“The hills are alive with the sound of…money.”

Old Steve Martin bit.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:52:10pm

re: #46 Barefoot Grin

Tillerson is Secretary of State only because he looks like what Donald Trump thinks a Secretary of State should look like.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:52:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:53:09pm

heh

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:53:16pm

re: #49 Skip Intro

Tillerson is Secretary of State only because he looks like what Donald Trump thinks a Secretary of State should look like.

And the 1/2 billion-dollar deal with Russia.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:53:35pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Sitting is hard.

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John_Manyjars  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:53:52pm

re: #22 Ace Rothstein

Fu*k Ryan and the thugs sideways. How about drug test for the Presidency? SCOTUS? Congress? Stinking hypocrites…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:54:47pm
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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:54:56pm

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

Trying to point out any of this problems with Trump to a Trumper and they go DARVO on you - that somehow you or the Democrats or Obama or whoever are the real problem.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:55:01pm

re: #16 Big Beautiful Door

We are fortunate this Administration is so incompetent, or it could inflict much more damage. it will be bad enough as it is.

That’s why I continue to say Pence is more dangerous. At least domestically.

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John_Manyjars  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:55:01pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

His boots remind me of the typical Jeep/SUV/raised 4x4 in most cities, spotless, never seen dirt/mud…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:56:18pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

Sitting is hard.

I still can’t get over the brand-new right-out-of-the-shoebox not-a-speck-of-dirt look of those boots and laces.

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makeitstop  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:56:33pm

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

And the 1/2 500 billion-dollar deal with Russia.

Yes, it’s that big a deal.

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Citizen K  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:57:41pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read through this thread when she posted it the other day.
Just, wow…

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I don’t know how you fight that sort of conviction. The kind of conviction so defiant of reality that it gets people to doubt reality when it’s literally right in front of them.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:58:24pm

I’ve yet to start the second season of the Amazon show TMITHC - well, I started the first epi of season two but quickly lost interest.

However, there is another alternate-universe series based around WWII, made by the BBC, called “SS-GB” :

imdb.com

Doesn’t have high marks on IMDB, but there aren’t a lot of reviews so it’s hard to tell if this might be something to look forward to watching.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:58:47pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, he’s…he’s, ah…probably pining for the fjords.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 4:59:02pm

re: #61 Citizen K

I don’t know how you fight that sort of conviction. The kind of conviction so defiant of reality that it gets people to doubt reality when it’s literally right in front of them.

I wanted to ask “what are they if they aren’t elephants?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:00:10pm

indeed.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:01:12pm

Regarding SS-GB, looking at the IMDB score for my own demographic, it appears rather strange distribution:

Votes Percentage Rating
16 11.0% 10
15 10.3% 9
35 24.0% 8
27 18.5% 7
6 4.1% 6
13 8.9% 5
9 6.2% 4
9 6.2% 3
9 6.2% 2
7 4.8% 1
Arithmetic mean = 6.5. Median = 7

When I see these kind of ratings I tend to believe that the show must be a niche product, appealing to only particular tastes.

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Citizen K  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:01:28pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wanted to ask “what are they if they aren’t elephants?”

Husband in the story asked just that. Answer was, “I don’t know, but I know they AIN’T elephants!!” Her conviction and repetition was enough to sway the husband somehow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:04:32pm

darth loves his fries.

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Kragar  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:06:24pm

re: #66 freetoken

I’ve always looked at IMDB rating like this:

8-10 Broad appeal across the board.
4-7 Niche or genre fans
1-3 Crap

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:08:07pm

re: #69 Kragar

When one looks at the ratings broken down by demographic, it can become pretty clear which shows are meant for juvenile audiences, which ones for older audiences, which ones are aimed at females, etc.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:08:18pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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indeed.

At least he has the awareness to admit he was wrong, more than can be said about most BernieBusters.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:08:24pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

Proving once again that much of the right’s hatred of communism is based on envy.

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CleverToad  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:09:52pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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indeed.

“Yes, sweetie, you screwed over a whole lot of people with your pouty protest vote. Now are you going to get off your little duff and DO something to prevent and repair all the damages your choice helped cause? Or is feeling guilty and repenting in public enough to soothe your conscience? And oh yeah, are you going to vote in EVERY ELECTION FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, kiddo?”

Some people make bad mistakes and learn from them, grow from them. We need to encourage the ones who can change. (I tell myself, trying to keep from grabbing the clue hammer for a satisfying whack…)

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:10:02pm

re: #60 makeitstop

Yes, it’s that big a deal.

Thank you! I knew that didn’t sound right.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:10:13pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where in heavens name is this Naija getting her information? Is she making it up? Or is she just trying to scare as many people as possible?

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Interesting Times  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:10:13pm

re: #67 Citizen K

Husband in the story asked just that. Answer was, “I don’t know, but I know they AIN’T elephants!!” Her conviction and repetition was enough to sway the husband somehow.

I actually experienced something somewhat similar to this, years and years ago when I worked in a supermarket.

A woman had some loose garlic in a clear plastic produce bag, but when I keyed it in, she insisted they were Vidalia onions o_O I was like, uh, nooo…but she kept on insisting, even when I pulled up the labeled produce photos on my terminal screen (they were full-color LCD panels, so there’s no way you could NOT tell what item was what).

I was in total disbelief, wondering if she was crazy, stupid, insanely stubborn…or simply lying to me because the onions happened to be cheaper. Given I had other customers in line and, in retail, they practically pound “the customer is always right” into your head, I had to acquiesce and put them through as Vidalia onions, otherwise who knew what kind of scene she would have made -_-

Anyway…my point is, maybe the husband in the “not an elephant” case was operating under a similar “oh fuck it, I’ll just let her think she’s right to keep the peace” thought process.

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Citizen K  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:10:19pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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indeed.

Sad thing is, he sounds like he’s the most reasonable and reachable of the ones described in the article. At the very least, he realizes how much and WHY he fucked up. The rest are just so much ‘hoocoodanode!’ that they feel hopeless. He actually feels guilt, rather than just regret and dumbfoundedness.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:10:51pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:11:55pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read through this thread when she posted it the other day.
Just, wow…

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Read that.

My brain hurts.

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makeitstop  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:16:34pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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indeed.

Yeah, fuck you, Zach Wilson.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:18:20pm

re: #76 Interesting Times

It’s like a micro- exercise of power. Use the power of the label “customer” as an excuse to make someone dance to their tune, either to preserve their sense of competence (even when they erred) or to just be on top of someone.

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stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:18:24pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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indeed.

He needs to make a large donation to the SPLC or NAACP Legal Defense Fund to start making up for his fuck-up.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:18:44pm

re: #61 Citizen K

Information disease.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:19:38pm

Save Music Store from Trump Haters

Because of our support for Donald Trump, the small business my husband and I own is being targeted, threatened and smeared by a coordinated effort of anti Trump activists. In order to survive we need to relocate, and we are raising funds to get out of Chicago before everything we have worked for is destroyed. We are using this 3-4 month gofundme campaign as one of several ways we are employing to raise and record money earned towards our move, and as a way to chronical the tragic tale of political hate that is destroying our livelihood and share it with others.

The author.

She was a big hit on Fox and Friends. Really got the GoFundMe moving.

gofundme.com

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William Lewis  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:22:28pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Peanut oil, darth. Trust me.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:23:33pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

Save Music Store from Trump Haters

The author.

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She was a big hit on Fox and Friends. Really got the GoFundMe moving.

gofundme.com

My eyes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:24:02pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

Save Music Store from Trump Haters

The author.

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She was a big hit on Fox and Friends. Really got the GoFundMe moving.

gofundme.com

Jeebus. Put that thing in spoiler tags.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:25:02pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

Their understanding of oppression, like their understanding of freedom, is about their license to no consequences.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:28:02pm

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say the music store in Chicago was already in a lot of trouble financially. They learned from the best.

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Jay C  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:28:55pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

“A tragic tale of political hate”

Yep the Trump. campaign and Presidency (so far) is all that, and more!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:29:25pm

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say the music store in Chicago was already in a lot of trouble financially. They learned from the best.

in business only since August 2015…yeah, there’s something else going on.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:31:58pm

During the election, we worked very hard to keep our personal politics out of our business, never speaking of the subject in the store.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:33:44pm

re: #93 Ace Rothstein

During the election, we worked very hard to keep our personal politics out of our business, never speaking of the subject in the store.

and she spent so much time sharing the Project Veritas stuff to educate people!

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:35:11pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

in business only since August 2015…yeah, there’s something else going on.

The couple similarly launched a GoFundMe in 2015 to raise money to buy out the former Andy’s Music Store, which they moved and reopened as Worlds of Music.
dnainfo.com

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:35:52pm

Remember, Trump built his life on working marks.

We should expect some of the marks to realize that value of working other marks.

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Jay C  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:35:53pm

re: #93 Ace Rothstein

During the election, we worked very hard to keep our personal politics out of our business, never speaking of the subject in the store.

Nor, I’d imagine, posted moonshots of yourself online?
(Just a wild guess….)

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:37:22pm

re: #96 freetoken

Remember, Trump built his life on working marks.

We should expect some of the marks to realize that value of working other marks.

This just gave me the biggest laugh I’ve had in months.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:38:45pm

re: #98 Ace Rothstein

Not all marks reach self-awareness.

Those who do, however, have that epiphany that they no longer have to be the bottom layer in the pyramid scheme.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:38:48pm
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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:41:45pm

I might tweet it since people seem to like it:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:45:24pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:50:33pm

re: #95 Ace Rothstein

Yeah…going to wager their business was already in the shit.

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Interesting Times  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:50:53pm

Holy crap. Swap out a few words here and there, and this article might as well be about trump’s America:

European leaders may recoil at the Turkish president’s outbursts this week - labelling the Dutch and German governments “Nazis” and “fascists” - but here, in his conservative, religious heartland, Recep Tayyip Erdogan can do no wrong.

What of his inflammatory rhetoric against Europe, I asked?

“I condemn Holland and Germany too,” she replied. “They don’t have a conscience.”

Standing beside her, pensioner Esma Koc chimed in: “Whatever he says is right - on every subject. If he appears to make a mistake, he must know something we don’t. What would we have done if he hadn’t existed?”

President Erdogan has repeatedly won at the ballot box and could once again in four weeks.

But the country he’s leading - a crucial Nato member and EU candidate - is dangerously polarised and, after this week, sliding ever further from Europe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:50:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:51:13pm

When LA traffic lets you watch this dude walk alongside his old doggo with a red wagon in case he needed it YOU CAN DO IT DOGGO @dog_rates

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:52:58pm
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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 5:56:11pm

re: #104 Interesting Times

It does seem, when looking at the past, that themes aren’t limited to political boundaries.

The rise of Trump, Erdogan, Duterte, along with the old-timers like Abe and Putin… it all goes round and round.

We humans are very much into copying each other, and right now nationalism, especially tinctured with religion, appears to be “in” as far as political fashion.

I suppose some may counter with “What about Canada”, or even point out the recent Netherlands vote. But that Wilder came as close as he did when only 20 years ago his party/platform would have been so fringe as to not count, ought to be telling.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:00:39pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t want to get into a person’s looks, but…

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Swampwitch  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:02:28pm

re: #109 Ace Rothstein

I would never point out that Eric looks like a right handed person tried to draw Don Jr. with his left foot.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:03:44pm

LOLWUT?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:05:20pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:09:56pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG. Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania allows a person to register to vote from the day after an election up to roughly a month before an election. These people are going to drive me nuts.

Information on the May 16th Primary: seventy.org

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Kragar  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:12:31pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:16:10pm

re: #109 Ace Rothstein

I don’t want to get into a person’s looks, but…

He looks better in a black uniform and jackboots.

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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:16:56pm

re: #114 Kragar

Trump went kind of heavy with the orange dye there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:19:11pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

Trump went kind of heavy with the orange dye there.

white around the eyes like spotlights.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:19:38pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I believe Chuck is a teetotaler… so it’s not a drunk tweet.

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Swampwitch  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:19:38pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

Notice the extra shadowing on either side of the chin to mask the jowells. So very subtle.

OR…very bad photoshop.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:21:24pm

re: #75 PhillyPretzel

Where in heavens name is this Naija getting her information? Is she making it up? Or is she just trying to scare as many people as possible?

Frying potatoes (or, any food with lots of free asparagine, maybe) produces a nominal amount of acrylamide which is quite toxic to a number of different systems.

It was quite the brouhaha a few years ago; it is still floating around the food risk assessor as a possible potential maybe something we should kinda think about. There are companies looking into producing low asparagune potatoes as a possible mitigation. But, toxic, no. As Paracelsus notes, the dose makes the poison (paraphrase) and the amount of arcrylamode in French fries is not that dose to be concerned about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:21:30pm

re: #119 Swampwitch

Notice the extra shadowing on either side of the chin to mask the jowells. So very subtle.

it did not work.

:D

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:21:48pm

I suspect some of the Republicans in Congress are getting more than a little frustrated with the ineptitude in the Trump administration.

The more broken the administration, the great likelihood that any Senator’s own agenda will get derailed from the side splash.

Why the Homeland Sec is invoked is another question.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:22:30pm

This quote from Deep Throat in ATPM pretty much sums it all up.

Forget the myths the media’s created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:23:32pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:23:48pm

re: #119 Swampwitch

Notice the extra shadowing on either side of the chin to mask the jowells. So very subtle.

He must have gotten a lifetime supply of orange makeup as part of his Apprentice deal.

Hint to Trump. It only works on TV and you don’t put it on with a paint roller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

re: #120 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:25:42pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

LOLWUT?

[Embedded content]

Grassley is getting fed up.

That’s how awful the Trump Horror is. Chuck Grassley is getting fed up with the incompetence.

Chuck Grassley.

It’s that bad.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:26:45pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

LOLWUT?

[Embedded content]

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:28:09pm
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William Lewis  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:28:37pm

Fun times…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:28:58pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup. That about sums it up. Also, as the twitter post notes, cancer is the long term possibility. Acute neuropathy is the first and you’ll need to eat shit tons for that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:30:04pm

re: #128 Ace Rothstein

These tweets are literally back to back on his page.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:30:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:31:01pm
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Ace Rothstein  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:31:12pm

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

We’re fast.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:33:58pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:34:35pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Doesn’t Kelly disagree with Trump on climate? He’s finished - not loyal.

Gotta get Jared in there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:34:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:34:49pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Grassley is getting fed up.

That’s how awful the Trump Horror is. Chuck Grassley is getting fed up with the incompetence.

It’s that bad.

At some point even semi rational republicans can see stuff still has to be done, and done well. State visits, proposals somehow falling within constitutional bounds on a precedent or set of real facts. There is a metaphor from scifi.

The Spice must flow.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:37:31pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:37:53pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

“That person has finally arrived?”

Who the hell is he talking about?

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ObserverArt  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:40:02pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

white around the eyes like spotlights.

When vanity gets in the way of reality and you think you look good when you really look like a fool.

And an asshole…

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:40:41pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Nice! Thanks for including ‘fake’ in there because so much of it is bullshit to just cover up their bigotry.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:42:14pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

“… like a master con-man.” And this is why I split my ticket. Even if the Republicans picked someone else Hillary was the only choice.

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Belafon  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:47:03pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

We had my dog put to sleep when she after she started acting like that. The vet said it was some kind of neurological issue (I can’t remember all the details now). She would be fine, and then she’d start either walking like that, our would be laying down and out of nowhere yelp really loud and turn into a creature that was just fighting pain. That was when I had to let her go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:47:05pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:51:14pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:52:08pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 6:55:09pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:02:30pm

So deeply tired of the fear mongers.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:03:58pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Doesn’t Kelly disagree with Trump on climate? He’s finished - not loyal.

Gotta get Jared in there.

Mattis is the one who has openly challenged Trump’s line climate change. Kelly reportedly disagrees with Trump too, as most flag officers do, but hasn’t gone public about it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:09:19pm

re: #150 Unshaken Defiance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:11:20pm

beginning of Season 2 opener of “Into the Badlands” does not disappoint.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:16:57pm

re: #114 Kragar

I think the airbrush nozzle is clogged.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:17:39pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ok, I had to google that one.

Disconnected from popular culture, I am.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:14:50pm
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dell*nix  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:15:01pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

Do they get pistols?

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cat-tikvah  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:28:54pm

re: #2 stpaulbear

Never.
Never.
In face I’m enjoying every loss more than the previous one.


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