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Belafon  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:26:32pm

I prefer angry to sad.

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Citizen K  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:38:02pm

re: #1 Belafon

I prefer angry to sad.

So do I. Unfortunately, far too often since the election, I’m both.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 7:43:41pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:06:44pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It’s as if they don’t want to mention their behavior since 2008 on purpose.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:09:12pm

To go with the previous one:

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:09:46pm

One more:

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:16:05pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:24:43pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Artist attempts to create most frustrating products imaginable

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I like this one

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Dave In Austin  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:29:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:30:17pm
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Single-handed sailor  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:33:34pm

Now I have an urge for snickerdoodles.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:33:53pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

I like this one

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This one’s good.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:37:38pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:41:09pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

It’s a Feline Overlord. That’s a normal days work.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:44:24pm
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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 8:59:56pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:02:57pm

It seems the right’s worship of airhead Tomi Lahren has ended, because she came out as pro-choice.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:03:13pm

I might be wrong, but I don’t think that Fuckface Von Clownstick is going to say anything about the passing of Chuck Berry. Good thing President Obama has his own Twitter account.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:06:44pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

I might be wrong, but I don’t think that Fuckface Von Clownstick is going to say anything about the passing of Chuck Berry. Good thing President Obama has his own Twitter account.

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Don’t hold your breath. The Donald seems not to care anything about music, art, or any of that culture stuff.

If a tweet comes, it will be from the staff phone and be about 2-3 days late.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:06:55pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:09:19pm

Let’s have a summit in the USA about African development without any actual African people there. Brilliant!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:23:45pm

Aw, he had an accident on the golf course!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:26:13pm

re: #21 wheat-dogg

Let’s have a summit in the USA about African development without any actual African people there. Brilliant!

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Maybe this world is just a computer simulation run in a parallel universe exploring how the population reacts when the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth decide to elect a misogynistic racist sociopath who knows nothing about foreign or domestic policy or history or the Constitution and has his administration dismantle a government that took generations to create. After all, isn’t what has happened too ridiculous for reality?

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:31:57pm

Headline writers…

President Trump’s approval rating sinks lower than Obama’s

Um… Trump’s so-called approval ratings started off lower than Obama’s.

It’s such a silly metric anyway, created soley to generate headlines.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:38:52pm

The other day I commented on the Arkansas university that is changing the name of their physics department to physics and engineering… and all that goes with that.

Anyway, a wider view of this phenomenon:

Concerns raised over HKU’s ditching of maths-physics and astronomy degrees

The scrapping of two unpopular science courses have sparked concerns from scientists, who argued such move would neglect its social responsibility.

The science faculty said it could no longer afford to offer two major subjects - astronomy and a joint degree in mathematics and physics - starting next year as too few students were choosing them. Less than six students had graduated in either course in the past five years.

[…]

Perhaps no one can see the night sky in HK? I’ve visited there once, and it did seem quite bright at night.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:40:21pm

The leader of the Party of Personal Responsibility, folks. Trump’s complete unwillingness to own his words is amazing.

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freetoken  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:42:55pm
HKU’s dean of science, Matthew Evans, explained that “students have simply voted with their feet”.

“We have an obligation to use the funds provided to us efficiently, and teaching niche programmes is I am afraid too inefficient and results in a waste of academic time that is better spent in increasing the quality of education for larger numbers of students,” Evans said.

This gets to my concern over the meme of “STEM”.

Viewing knowledge only through the lens of economic utility is the end of science, as science.

Astronomy is now “waste”.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:43:43pm

Hm. Iron Fist, up to ep 7:

The good:

- I’m liking the Meachams as characters, and not finding their part of the story to be a distraction, like some reviewers are.
- Madame Gao may specifically function as a shadowy figure, but when she appears she’s killing it. Also, a-plus trolling the hero.
- Finn Jones is doing a good job with the naive part of Danny Rand, and to a degree with the “messed up by being raised to fight.”

The -meh-:

- There’s a sort of Japanese-Chinese cultural stew thing that gets distracting. Tropes from tong movies, tropes from wushu movies, tropes from yakuza movies, yadda, yadda. It’s not really homage, just a kind-of “this is a thing that happens often” reference buffet. My opinion—they should have picked a Chinese flavor and stuck with it.
- The martial arts are…well, stuff like a kung fu master lording it over karate students doesn’t seem badass, just clueless. Okay, I’m lying…the fights are weirdly slow and often shot/blocked in ways that make them not very exciting. This is another place where picking a style—wushu hand pushing or more “realistic” violence—would have been a plus.
- The dialog frequently needs to be sawed in half. Danny Rand in particular is done a disservice by the expository dialogue. His’s acclimatization to K’un Lun culture just doesn’t feel lived-in, because it’s all couched in explanations and framing language that feels clunky.

I’d give it a C+ so far, and I’m still watching

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austin_blue  Mar 19, 2017 • 9:57:53pm

re: #27 freetoken

This gets to my concern over the meme of “STEM”.

Viewing knowledge only through the lens of economic utility is the end of science, as science.

Astronomy is now “waste”.

Astronomy, meteorology, climate research, virology, geology (non-petroleum!), anthropology, paleontology, all stupid wasteful venues for research.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:16:23pm

SteveMcG sent an email to ask that I reinstate his account, and because he was sincere and respectful about it, I’m going to do so. So he’ll be back soon.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:25:33pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Didn’t know he was banned.

I think he likes being a troll. He’s less aggressive and somewhat benign in his troll approach a lot of the time. He’s still a troll.

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:28:22pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

SteveMcG sent an email to ask that I reinstate his account, and because he was sincere and respectful about it, I’m going to do so. So he’ll be back soon.

AKA Steve McGhazi, from Philly?

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:31:51pm

re: #32 Mattand

AKA Steve McGhazi, from Philly?

The same. Registered nurse in Philly.

I can’t wait to see him come back and react to my calling him a troll, which he is. In the couple of years I’ve seen SteveMcG comment at LGF, I can ascertain that he is a troll, looking for reaction from his dumbass pronouncements for his own amusement.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:40:29pm

If you don’t like death metal or cartoons then do not watch this.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:51:01pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

When I was a teenager growing up in a mountain valley in Colorado listening to Obituary was a risky thing. They were among the worst of the worst music that warped young minds irreparably, with album titles like “Slowly We Rot” (1989) and “World Demise” (1994).

They’re still making music! Here’s part two.

OBITUARY - Ten Thousand Ways To Die (Official Music Video)

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:51:52pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Huh. Had no idea he got the boot.

Speaking of Philly lizards, I haven’t seen Fearless Feline Leader, aka Oaktree, post recently. He still around.

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:54:53pm

re: #36 Mattand

Huh. Had no idea he got the boot.

Speaking of Philly lizards, I haven’t seen Fearless Feline Leader, aka Oaktree, post recently. He still around.

There are several that I have not seen in a while. CL, for instance. I know Klys is on time away. Critical Dragon I haven’t seen.

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 10:59:15pm

re: #37 retired cynic

There are several that I have not seen in a while. CL, for instance. I know Klys is on time away. Critical Dragon I haven’t seen.

My own visits have been fairly erratic since the election. It really took a lot out of me, mentally. If it wasn’t for this site, I’d have really been climbing the walls (which is saying something.)

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:00:22pm

re: #38 Mattand

My own visits have been fairly erratic since the election. It really took a lot out of me, mentally. If it wasn’t for this site, I’d have really been climbing the walls (which is saying something.)

I think a bunch of us have been feeling that way. It’s like a weight on top of the head and shoulders, tightening the neck. Never completely gone.

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:01:06pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

That was pretty funny. Not a huge thrash fan, but I enjoyed it. Especially got a kick out of the lead singer singing while he was driving through the whole video.

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:04:52pm

re: #39 retired cynic

I think a bunch of us have been feeling that way. It’s like a weight on top of the head and shoulders, tightening the neck. Never completely gone.

Seriously, it was 9/11 levels of angst for me. That may sound like hyperbole, and it probably is to a degree, but I still cannot believe that jackass is running the country.

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:06:25pm

re: #41 Mattand

Seriously, it was 9/11 levels of angst for me. That may sound like hyperbole, and it probably is to a degree, but I still cannot believe that jackass is running the country.

It is worse that 9/11 for me, and you are right, I can’t believe any of this.

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:08:21pm

re: #42 retired cynic

Same for me. I even had a Drumpf nightmare and I rarely ever have bad dreams. *shudders*

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:08:36pm

re: #21 wheat-dogg

Let’s have a summit in the USA about African development without any actual African people there. Brilliant!

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Jesus Christ, I can’t even with this country anymore. I’m going to bed.

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:09:43pm
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Moebym  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:12:20pm

re: #41 Mattand

Seriously, it was 9/11 levels of angst for me. That may sound like hyperbole, and it probably is to a degree, but I still cannot believe that jackass is running the country.

The depression and anxiety that I was beginning to get under control came back with a vengeance after the election.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:13:22pm

I’m not looking forward to SteveMcG’s return to LGF. Dude is a true bell end, rarely contributed to the discussion, just wanted to stir shit, fucking wanker.

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:13:23pm
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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:16:35pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

I’m not looking forward to SteveMcG’s return to LGF. Dude is a true bell end, rarely contributed to the discussion, just wanted to stir shit, fucking wanker.

Just take a deep breath and don’t go looking for trouble. I had a few dust ups with him as well, but try to resist the urge to dive bomb when he chimes in.

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:17:59pm

re: #48 JordanRules

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snork — too bad there also isn’t some foam on his shiny nose

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Mattand  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:18:33pm

re: #46 Moebym

The depression and anxiety that I was beginning to get under control came back with a vengeance after the election.

I can only imagine how that feels. Hang in there.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:19:32pm

re: #49 Mattand

Just take a deep breath and don’t go looking for trouble. I had a few dust ups with him as well, but try to resist the urge to dive bomb when he chimes in.

The moment he says something totally dumbass (which is inevitable) I will call him a fucking dunce. I actually think his non-presence at LGF has been a good thing. But this is Charles’ place, and I’m not gonna question bringing swine like SteveMcG back. Maybe he’ll turn out to be a decent human being.

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:20:26pm

re: #50 retired cynic

Some of the responses​ are glorious!

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:21:58pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Some of the responses​ are glorious!

Ok, I’m getting out of the boat!

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retired cynic  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:27:50pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Some of the responses​ are glorious!

Oh, you were right! I LOL’d!

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:35:59pm

SteveMcG voted for Donald Trump. This is fact until proved otherwise. Anybody who reports anything other than this is *FAKE FUCKING NEWS*.

See how that works? What is fact?

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:38:24pm

Charles was paid by SSSORROSS, several hundred thousand dollars.

People fucking believe this shit.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:41:48pm

I’m sorry, but I’m skeptical of SteveMcG. He’s an Ayn Rand fucker.

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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:43:19pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:47:13pm
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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:48:05pm
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majii  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:48:55pm

re: #42 retired cynic

“It is worse that 9/11 for me, and you are right, I can’t believe any of this.”

After Trump won, I removed myself from the internet for over a month. My mind was reeling over Americans being so gullible as to vote to make that dumb*ss POTUS.

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JordanRules  Mar 19, 2017 • 11:52:30pm

I remember seeing a story about the Georgia GOP trying to do something shady in this race. Part of their usual voter suppression schtick. I need to follow up on that and see how it’s going.
Would be great to get an early win here!

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 12:01:46am

My state being all fiscally responsible and shit. SMDH

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 12:47:08am

Erick son of Erick jumps on the anti-Tomi bandwagon, with his usual arsenal of false equivalences.

I think Tomi has learned the hard way how quick the right wing will turn on someone who deviates even the slightest from the True Path™. Too bad, so sad.

Also, it’s interesting Spencer is supporting her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 12:50:36am

re: #7 teleskiguy

Artist attempts to create most frustrating products imaginable

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that is a perfect device for brushing whales’ teeth…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 12:57:01am

I’ve been trying to track down a Yemeni student of mine off and on for a few years now. Her social media presence is literally zero, because she deliberately kept a low profile once she came to the USA for college and postgraduate study. She said she feared reprisals against her family for letting her study abroad and for the family’s political views. I hadn’t heard from her in a long time, and was concerned she’d gotten caught up somehow in the troubles in Yemen.

Nope. Googling today I found she’s a life insurance agent in Kentucky, married now with kids. Now I have an address to send a postcard to.

Time for classes again. Later, lizards!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 1:37:10am

These Clinton haters are getting even more pathetic, which I guess is actually an accomplishment of sorts.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 1:43:40am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

BTW Annie is the Chief National Correspondent for the Boston Globe. There was and remains a deranged reflexive hatred by many members of the national media towards the Clintons. Trump’s election and his disastrous first two months in office have done nothing to instill anything resembling introspection in these people.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 20, 2017 • 1:54:29am

Zebra Crossing Guards

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 2:05:35am

re: #65 wheat-dogg

Racism and abortion go hand in hand. The arguments for abortion were once used by slave owners, after all.

lolwhut

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 2:22:52am

So the Orly airport attacker was found with alcohol in his blood (along with cannabis and cocaine)

No true Muslim, right?

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 20, 2017 • 2:59:26am

I assume this is merely a coincidence…

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Dave In Austin  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:02:32am

re: #73 lockjawcanbefun

Took me 30 seconds to get that word worked out……

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Weaselone  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:13:29am

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

BTW Annie is the Chief National Correspondent for the Boston Globe. There was and remains a deranged reflexive hatred by many members of the national media towards the Clintons. Trump’s election and his disastrous first two months in office have done nothing to instill anything resembling introspection in these people.

So she should know that Liz Warren wasn’t really interested in the VP slot?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:27:16am

re: #75 Weaselone

So she should know that Liz Warren wasn’t really interested in the VP slot?

And fuck the former civil rights attorney Clinton did pick for VP?

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Bubblehead II  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:50:21am

The man-child is awake and boy is this one a dozy.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:52:30am

re: #77 Bubblehead II

The man-child is awake and boy is this one a dozy.

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Tell us again how Germany owes us money for NATO, POTUS-w/-the-MOSTUS bigly grasp on things.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:53:45am

re: #77 Bubblehead II

The man-child is awake and boy is this one a dozy.

James Clapper and others stated that there is no evidence Potus colluded with Russia. This story is FAKE NEWS and everyone knows it!

Don’t listen to what he says or tweets, listen to what is in his shriveled, three-sizes-too-small heart…

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Bubblehead II  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:57:59am

Off to work. The man should really pay closer attention to what he tweets.

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I cannot.  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:58:21am

re: #77 Bubblehead II

Not sure if its him. “no evidence Potus”, I don’t think he’d refer to himself like that. “I” “Donald Trump”, “the President”, “I, Donald Trump”, but not “Potus”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 3:58:43am

re: #80 Bubblehead II

Off to work. The man should really pay closer attention to what he tweets.

why? he has a whole staff whose job is to rationalize, explain and distract…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:39:46am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:41:13am

LOL he’s really pissed this morning

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:44:11am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

Isn’t FBI Director Comey supposed to speak to the Senate Intel Committee later today?

Trump must be nervous about that.

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I cannot.  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:46:58am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

I think 2 hours from now is when NPR coverage begins

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SteveMcG RN  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:47:02am

re: #56 teleskiguy

SteveMcG voted for Donald Trump. This is fact until proved otherwise. Anybody who reports anything other than this is *FAKE FUCKING NEWS*.

See how that works? What is fact?

First, thank you to Charles. I do care about the community and when I challenge (or ball-bust) I don’t do it recklessly.
I was privileged to vote for Barack Obama 4 times (counting primaries) and Hilary Clinton twice. Teleskiguy, you should know better than to expect somebody to “prove” their vote. You’re an educated man, in history no less. And you call me a troll?
If you were so certain I was a Chump voter show me anything I ever said that indicated anything but total disdain for anything the right stands for. I’ll save you the trouble because it never happened. If I get a chance tonight I’ll post some thoughts on scenarios that are even more ominous than I’ve heard in the media and none of it involves Trump launching nukes. I do hate to post and run but I’m glad everybody’s been doing ok (I never stopped lurking)

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I cannot.  Mar 20, 2017 • 4:58:25am

Apparently BioWare hates love, and hope, and beauty now…

Mass Effect Andromeda - What’s behind those cold, dead eyes?

WHAT THE HELL IS ON WITH THOSE “FACES”?! THEY’RE LESS ANIMATED THAN MELANIA’S!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:01:08am

re: #88 I cannot.

Apparently BioWare hates love, and hope, and beauty now…

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WHAT THE HELL IS ON WITH THOSE “FACES”?! THEY’RE LESS ANIMATED THAN MELANIA’S!

Uncanny valley.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:23:11am

I also wonder what his Jewish-American castmate, Molly Ephraim, thinks of his remarks…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:25:33am

re: #90 Timothy Watson

I also wonder what his Jewish-American castmate, Molly Ephraim, thinks of his remarks…

It is fact-free opinionating that has kept his name under discussion for the past week now. A net win for TA.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:27:23am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is fact-free opinionating that has kept his name under discussion for the past week now. A net win for TA.

The only bad publicity is no publicity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:37:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:43:16am

re: #92 wheat-dogg

The only bad publicity is no publicity.

I really only know him from Galaxy Quest, in which he plays a washed-up Hollywood celebrity who can no longer get any work outside doing supermarket openings and sci-fi con appearances…

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jeffreyw  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:50:57am

Imgur
Good morning!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:53:11am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really only know him from Galaxy Quest, in which he plays a washed-up Hollywood celebrity who can no longer get any work outside doing supermarket openings and sci-fi con appearances…

He had a good run in Home Improvement, playing a hapless DIY TV show host surrounded by people who could rescue him from inevitable disaster. He’s the voice of Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story 1,2,3 and is now on Last Man Standing. So, real-life Allen is in better shape than Galaxy Quest Allen.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:57:24am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

The Democrats made up and pushed the Russian story as an excuse for running a terrible campaign. Big advantage in Electoral College & lost!

— Donald J. Trump

Such class presidential. Very leadership. Bigly.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 5:58:11am

re: #97 Sir John Barron

Such class presidential. Very leadership. Bigly.

Like I said, I think he’s nervous about what Comey might say today.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:00:00am

re: #97 Sir John Barron

Such class presidential. Very leadership. Bigly.

And wasn’t his wall supposed to be like 55 feet tall? Now it’s only 30 feet tall according to the plan?

Man, there are probably a lot of women snickering right now.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:04:53am

Did the grumpy old codger finally get a new phone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:06:36am

re: #100 wheat-dogg

Did the grumpy old codger finally get a new phone?

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No. The semi-normal Tweets are sent by his staff using iPhone, the really insane Tweets still sent by His Nibs on the Android.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:07:34am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

No. The semi-normal Tweets are sent by his staff using iPhone, the really insane Tweets still sent by His Nibs on the Android.

That’s what I figured.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:10:28am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Took a few days to go traveling and recharge the batteries. It was good to get away for a few days, but everywhere I went, I saw the wages of Trump.

Newport RI mansions - how the truly rich lives (lived) - whether they were coal barons, railroad tycoons, or heirs to mining fortunes. The Gilded Age was so-named by Mark Twain for good reason. I fear that we’re revisiting the same kind of period, with the rich getting richer on the backs of everyone else.

New Bedford Whaling National Historic Site - where I learned that it was not only a major whaling center, but a major stop on the Underground Railroad and where Frederick Douglas lived for a time. Of course, Trump wants to keep coal and fossil fuels going even as technology passes them by and finds better, cheaper, and less polluting alternatives (wind, solar, geothermal).

Touro Synagogue, which is prominent not only for having the oldest standing synagogue in the nation, but the correspondence with George Washington enshrined the separation of church and state and reaffirmed that the nation was founded on a principle of religious freedom and tolerance. Here too, Trump rears his ugly mug, as he’s singling out minorities and pushing Muslim bans and going after illegal immigrants with walls and deportations.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:12:50am

re: #35 teleskiguy

My son saw them in Atlanta on Saturday. He’ll totally dig this.

I am still never quite less than amazed that the kid who was struggling with autism and sensory issues when he was young (to the point of complete overload and meltdown) is a hard core metalhead now. And he drives himself to the shows and back safely. In his own car. I honestly credit this music (and the bands, I think my son has pictures with almost every band he’s seen on local circuits and all his CDs signed) for helping him deal with his anxiety and other difficult emotions. And he’s made friends, tons of them. No one super close, but everyone seems to love him, pretty much (there’s always some asshole…thankfully not many). The music has helped motivate him socially and provided incentives to overcome the fear of driving and other formally panic inducing things. It started with Iron Maiden when he was maybe 12 or 13 and kept on going. So, while bands with names like Dying Fetus, Cattle Decapitation and Aborted kind of make one pause, I look at the actual people and how cool they are. And how much they have helped my kid, without even knowing it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:18:34am

I doubt Il Trumpino reads The Guardian, but if he did, he’d be tweeting about the Guardian losing money because no one reads it.

In Donald Trump’s fantasy world, hints of reality are dawning
Matthew d’Ancona

I do not want to overstate the extent of Trump’s recent encounters with the irreducible facts. He still resides mostly in the Mar-a-Lago of his mind, a lurid cognitive space where he perceives the world as he wants it to be, rather than as it is. On Friday a German journalist asked him why he’s so scared of diversity in the media that he speaks so often about fake news, and things such as wiretapping, which “in the end, cannot be proven”. Trump’s response was to scorn her as “a nice, friendly reporter” and evade the question entirely by boasting of the US’s growing strength.

My claim is only that a few - just a few - chinks of light are breaking through the carapace of populist delusion. To change the metaphor: the waves of Trump’s sociopathic belief that he can say and do what he likes with impunity are starting to hit the rocks of reality. There is nothing to celebrate yet, no cause to relax, no outcome assured. Let us just say that this may, conceivably, be the end of the beginning.

theguardian.com

D’Ancona may be right. Trump’s most recent tweets and interviews have been off the hinges, and I am sure he’s pitching fits privately about his inability to get DC to drop to its knees and do his bidding, no questions asked.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:37:42am

Doesn’t look like that bad of a walk to Mordor. How is downtown Seattle for pedestrians though???

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:37:58am

Fuck you, PBS, for promoting anything involving Charles Murray:
pbs.org

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Skip Intro  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:40:40am

re: #18 teleskiguy

I might be wrong, but I don’t think that Fuckface Von Clownstick is going to say anything about the passing of Chuck Berry. Good thing President Obama has his own Twitter account.

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Why would you want him too? Does he have to take a shit on everything?

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:42:42am

Whether or not Trump, or any of his campaign staff was directly involved with Russian hacking (though it sounds like Roger Stone may have had a whole lot of contact), any evidence that comes out that Russians were directly manipulating the election process should be held over every thing Trump and Republicans do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:44:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:44:47am

re: #109 Belafon

Whether or not Trump, or any of his campaign staff was directly involved with Russian hacking (though it sounds like Roger Stone may have had a whole lot of contact), any evidence that comes out that Russians were directly manipulating the election process should be held over every thing Trump and Republicans do.

I am also interested in seeing the extent of Trump’s business dealings with Russia and other former Soviet republics.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:45:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:46:06am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:46:58am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, is it true that the DNC would not let the FBI in to look?

Wasn’t that claim debunked a couple weeks ago?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:48:51am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:49:13am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, it seems like he’s increasingly worried the shit’s gonna hit the fan today.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:49:24am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t that claim debunked a couple weeks ago?

In the reality-based world, yes, AFAIK. But Trump gets his news from Breitbart, Fox News, InfoWars and PrisonPlanet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:51:11am

Comey’s testimony starts in a few minutes on CSPAN

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:51:45am
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Skip Intro  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:51:46am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t that claim debunked a couple weeks ago?

Fox viewers don’t know that, hence Trump throws it out sans evidence. And so starts another Monday in Trumpland.

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Skip Intro  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:53:20am

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Comey’s testimony starts in a few minutes on CSPAN

Trump: “Look at me look at me look at me look at me look at me …..”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:53:23am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:54:24am

re: #88 I cannot.

Here’s another take on ME:Andromeda. The problem for me with all of these poor design issues and animation faults (and, some are real doozies) is that they would (if I purchase it) detract from the experience because I get caught up in minor details and they overtake other aspects.

Anyhoo. Article There is a video (_direct link to video_) in the article (please, please don’t read the comments, they start back up with Gamergate SJW issues. Had to take an acid bath after about four of them.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:54:40am

So called “moderates”.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:57:44am

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

What about all of the contact with the Clinton campaign and the Russians? Also, is it true that the DNC would not let the FBI in to look?

— Donald J. Trump

Hittin the sauce pretty early, as usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:57:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:59:52am
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A Mom Anon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:00:31am

Damn it. I have to leave and I just got here. Have a great Monday and week Lizards. Miss you all and this place. Sigh….

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:02:03am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

A real banner from @FoxNews: “NEWS YOU CAN’T USE - DO U.S. FAMILIES WANT TO HEAR ABOUT RUSSIA REPORTS?”

Hey we’re just asking….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:02:49am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:03:25am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Russians acknowledge that they tried to reach out to the Clintons, but the Clinton campaign would never call back.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:03:41am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Next on Fox News:

Do U.S. families really, really need the government to give them free stuff like healthcare, lazies.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:04:09am

re: #131 Belafon

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The Russians acknowledge that they tried to reach out to the Clintons, but the Clinton campaign would never call back.

And you know how men hate that…

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:04:51am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was hoping that would happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:06:11am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:07:06am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They couldn’t be any more blatant here.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:11:14am

re: #131 Belafon

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The Russians acknowledge that they tried to reach out to the Clintons, but the Clinton campaign would never call back.

He’s a child.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:14:12am

MICROWAVE SURVEILLANCE!!!!!

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LastYearsMan  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:16:05am

re: #107 Timothy Watson

Fuck you, PBS, for promoting anything involving Charles Murray:
pbs.org

True. Frank Rich’s latest piece in NY Magazine is a pretty good rebuttal to Andrew Sullivan’s recent fawning over Murray and the poor, forgotten white working class.

tl;dr - Go fuck yourselves, you whiny racists. (I maybe be adding some editorial of my own).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:16:28am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

He’s a child.

a scared child. with his hands on the nuclear football

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:17:06am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

BREAKING: House intel chair: No ‘wiretap on Trump Tower’ but other surveillance on Trump or his associates not ruled out.

this is the talking point they need…

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:17:31am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a scared child. with his hands on the nuclear football

Not just the nuclear football. He could tell a carrier in Asia to drive as far inland into North Korea as it could.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:18:06am

.@RepAdamSchiff: “The Russians successfully meddled in our democracy, and our intelligence agencies have concluded they will do so again.”

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:18:12am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

MICROWAVE SURVEILLANCE!!!!!

“It’s the fluoride. They’re watching us via the fluoride.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:21:15am

Nunes: “There was not a physical wiretap of Trump Tower.” As opposed to what, an astral projection of Obama? #ComeyHearing

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:22:30am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:23:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:23:35am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:24:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:24:39am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:24:47am

Perspective: Imagine if this were Hillary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:25:00am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes: “There was not a physical wiretap of Trump Tower.” As opposed to what, an astral projection of Obama?

They want to preserve even the slimmest possibility that Trumps claims were not ENTIRELY unfounded. That is important.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:26:05am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait until they find out that Obama has the Eye of Agamotto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:26:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:29:19am
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jeffreyw  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:29:57am

Nunes = Guard Dog
Schiff = Watch Dog

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:05am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not breaking news there.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:06am

As everyone with functioning neurons knows, once you realize that every frickin’ person in the Trump inner circle has links to Russia, Putin, or oligarchs (or all of the above), and several have already lied (or lied under oath - hiya perjurious Sessions!), all the claims that Trump doesn’t have ties to Russia sounds hollow.

All the claims that Trump and his cabal of cronies are not connected to Russia rings hollow when they’re repeatedly caught in the lie. We know that the Russians engaged in agitprop to manipulate the outcome of the election. We know that Comey’s letter played a significant role, as did the DNC leaks that were done by Russian hackers.

We know that Stone had repeated contacts with Guccifer.

We know that there’s even more that we don’t yet know because the intel is still classified, but members of Congress have been briefed on this, including that British dossier that contains the salacious pissing episode, but which likely also alludes to Trump being compromised by the Russians.

We further know that Trump’s foreign policies so far have helped no one but Russia. Undermining US strategic alliances with European partners, Middle East partners, and Asian partners does nothing to improve US standing in the world and helps our enemies, rivals, and Russia in particular.

Why would the US undermine those alliances and partnerships? That makes no sense unless the Trump admin is not pursuing a strategy that helps the US in short/long term, but one that inures benefit to our rivals. That’s the opposite of MAGA.

These are the kinds of activities that put people in prison at Fort Leavenworth for a very long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:31:02am
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:31:49am

re: #151 GlutenFreeJesus

Perspective: Imagine if this were Hillary.

The GOP would have already instituted articles of impeachment and brought charges against everyone in her inner circle of conspiracy and sedition and other charges.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:32:32am

re: #153 Belafon

We need Obama to have the TARDIS (or at least keep it out of Trump’s hands).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:33:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:35:29am

uh huh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:35:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:37:13am

BREAKING: FBI Director Comey confirms the FBI is investigating any possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:37:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:37:52am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mic drop.

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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:38:08am

Lock ‘em up!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:38:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:39:05am

LOL TELL US MOAR

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:39:19am

So-called president Drump is actually tweeting about his electoral college “win”. Wow.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:39:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:41:21am
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I cannot.  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:42:09am

So…red stuff on the radar is good, right?

Also in regards to today’s news…

Need MOAR!
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:42:30am

Unlike Watergate, the Republicans don’t have people with actual integrity in their party. Their team won, that’s all that matters.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:42:48am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

As Brian Williams said at the top of the hour — this is going to be a partisan affair. And so far

Ah, well, so no biggy. Just partisan smick smack.

Thanks, media.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:44:05am

re: #174 I cannot.

So…red stuff on the radar is good, right?

Here’s what that red stuff on the radar looked like in Cincinnati this morning:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:44:44am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:45:02am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

That will be the Republican angle: If the Russians didn’t hack the voting machines, then there’s nothing to look at. Nunes will be OK with Russia destroying the fabric of the country as long as it’s not obvious. Power means more to them than how they acquired it.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:45:45am

re: #179 Belafon

That will be the Republican angle: If the Russians didn’t hack the voting machines, then there’s nothing to look at. Nunes will be OK with Russia destroying the fabric of the country as long as it’s not obvious. Power means more to them than how they acquired it.

But Hillary emails….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:46:29am

re: #179 Belafon

That will be the Republican angle: If the Russians didn’t hack the voting machines, then there’s nothing to look at. Nunes will be OK with Russia destroying the fabric of the country as long as it’s not obvious. Power means more to them than how they acquired it.

…and again: lying about the Russians is not perjury just like getting a blowjob from a bimbo is not cheating on your wife.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:46:39am

re: #179 Belafon

That will be the Republican angle: If the Russians didn’t hack the voting machines, then there’s nothing to look at. Nunes will be OK with Russia destroying the fabric of the country as long as it’s not obvious. Power means more to them than how they acquired it.

And if Russia did hack the voting machines then “Well Dems committed voter fraud too so it all just balances out.”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:47:19am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

And if Russia did hack the voting machines then “Well Dems committed voter fraud too so it all just balances out.”

/

three million illegal voters!!!

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:49:43am
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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:50:28am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

And if Russia did hack the voting machines then “Well Dems committed voter fraud too so it all just balances out.”

/

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:50:59am

re: #185 b.d.

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FAKE NEWSY!!1!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:51:08am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:51:34am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cue conspiracy theories.

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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:52:46am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #188 HappyWarrior

The Luminati are obviously responsible for his untimely death….

(or is he really dead?)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:53:04am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:53:05am

re: #184 lawhawk

But colluding with a foreign power to break into the opposing party’s email records and releasing them, well, I guess that’s OK.

//

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:53:56am

re: #87 SteveMcG RN

ekywFv3ZOko5h0HWB3Nwg0wlKFjAd/EaL5+hRB/k36+xDXVUTH0kIEeSTwVPEN0FB1qATZ1KUY7DLRQp/E80VBqNRXP9So0+yB3d2ZMef4wRukr125ta7RXWg0mELPc6512ROzWb1vxR0OfdFmQD/bD/ogMhms3ubjyfoj9uNON4BXljsTjQO+veEJXZpI76HM2WtmxhTzxagxNqfykH1w==

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:55:48am
The most well-known fact about former journalist Terry Anderson is that he was held hostage by Shiite Hezbollah militants in Lebanon for almost seven years, from 1985 to 1991.

He’s resigned to the cause for his fame. But for Anderson—also a former Marine, more recently a journalism professor, and now trying out the role of retired Orange County resident—life has gone on.

“I don’t think it affected very much that I really believe, in my worldview,” Anderson said of his captivity during a talk at the Lake of the Woods Democratic Club Sunday afternoon. “How does that affect my life today? I don’t know. … It’s part of my life, it’s there. It’s not going to go away. I don’t think about it very much, but it’s part of who I am.”

Anderson, who retired from the Associated Press—and journalism in general in the 1990s—joined the Democratic Party in Orange about a month ago, after spending a little over a year fixing up a house in the western part of the county. After decades spent more or less in the public eye, Anderson chose Orange because he has friends in the area, and it seemed like a quiet, pretty place to retire, he said.

richmond.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:57:45am
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:58:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:00:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:01:43am
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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:07:02am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:07:12am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leaking information about a crime doesn’t negate the crime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:09:04am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:10:01am

First time watching CNN since the election!

Good morning!

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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:10:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:10:22am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:10:35am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump: Hold my beer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:12:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:13:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:13:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:14:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:14:37am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:15:48am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:16:22am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are you in fact James Comey, FBI Director?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:16:29am
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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:16:48am

Spinning like a 500 million mega watt turbine….

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:18:00am

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:18:40am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:21:45am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

The sexism, racism, and whatever else you want to bring up overrode any concerns of the damage being done to the country.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:22:25am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:22:45am
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:23:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:23:56am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:23:56am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh fuck you Trey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:25:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:26:49am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s 702?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:26:58am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:27:17am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

What’s 702?

icontherecord.tumblr.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:28:16am

Trey is looking for witches to burn

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:28:17am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody sounds upset.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:28:50am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gowdy now says reauthorization of 702 is facing “a pretty strong headwind.” Continuing to dangle the program as a threat to FBI and NSA.

Anyone remember the good ol’ days when the GOP claimed that Democrats were committing treason and aiding terrorists if they had even the most tepid objection to NSA/FBI data collection?

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:29:20am

re: #226 Timothy Watson

I can’t tumblr at work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:30:17am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:30:47am

re: #230 Belafon

Spoil’d due to block of text:

Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act

Section 702 refers to part of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Amendments of 2008, Section 702 (50 USC 1881a). This provision of FISA faciliates the acquisition of foreign intelligence information concerning non-U.S. persons located outside the United States, creating a new, more streamlined procedure to collect the communications of foreign terrorists.

Limited Targeting Under the Law

The Government cannot target anyone under the court-approved procedures for Section 702 collection unless there is an appropriate, and documented, foreign intelligence purpose for the acquisition and the foreign target is reasonably believed to be outside the United States. Section 702 cannot be used to intentionally target any U.S. citizen, or any other U.S. person, or to intentionally target any person known to be in the United States. Section 702 cannot be used to target a person outside the United States if the purpose is to acquire information from a from a person inside the United States.

How Data is Obtained and Used

Section 702 involves the assistance of electronic communications service providers, a dynamic that is explicitly laid out in the statute itself. However, under Section 702 of FISA, the United States Government does not unilaterally obtain information from the servers of U.S. electronic communication service providers. All such information is obtained with FISA court approval and with the knowledge of the service provider based upon a written directive from the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence.

Oversight, Compliance and Minimization

Collection under Section 702 does not require individual judicial orders authorizing collection against each target. Instead, the FISA court approves annual certifications submitted by the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence that identify categories of foreign intelligence that may be collected, subject to Court-approved “targeting” procedures and “minimization” procedures.

Activities authorized by Section 702 are subject to oversight by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the Executive Branch, and Congress. They involve extensive procedures, specifically approved by the court, to ensure that only non-U.S. persons outside the U.S. are targeted, and that minimize the acquisition, retention and dissemination of incidentally acquired information about U.S. persons.

Status of the Law

Section 702 was recently reauthorized by Congress after extensive hearings and debate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:36:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:37:43am

These hearings…I am running out of space on my IOKIYAR scorecard…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:40:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:41:53am

LOL.
Please proceed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:44:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:45:25am
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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:45:30am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL.
Please proceed…

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I’m sure he has a Russian witness or 2…….

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:48:09am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fox will do anything to be the GOP’s propaganda arm.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:48:56am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:49:28am

re: #232 Timothy Watson

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So, Gowdy, but trying to say it won’t be authorized, is hoping to use the “I didn’t hear it, so it must not be true” defense.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:50:05am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:50:40am

Hillary Clinton!

Fucking Nunes.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:53:09am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:53:34am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:54:21am

Ponder this. Comey tanked Clinton so he could eventually bring down a President Trump with the Russian collusion… Talk about a legacy.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:54:36am

re: #248 FormerDirtDart

Good lord, they’ve gone full retard.

And if Robert Downey Jr has tried to teach us anything, well, we know what that is.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:54:40am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart

There’s so many Trump people under investigations for so much different stuff, that any testimony has to be careful not to jeopardize any of those investigations.

Manafort, Stone, and all the rest are in trouble, right up to Trump himself. You don’t get to publicly state that you had contacts with Guccifer and Russian hackers - coordinating activities - as Stone did, without there being repercussions.

Stone’s tweets are going to help any investigation to that end.

Manafort may not be the tweeter that Stone is, but he’s got just as many problems.

Up and down the line, Trump’s surrounded himself with people who are up to their eyeballs in Russia contacts - his own family included (which is why those goddamned full tax returns are crucial to figuring out whether Trump’s compromised by Russia).

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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:54:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:55:19am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:55:46am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

Also, is it true that the DNC would not let the FBI in to look?

— Donald J. Trump

What does this even mean? If the FBI “wants in” I think they usually “get in”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:57:04am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:57:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:57:23am

re: #251 lawhawk

Stone better lawyering up right about now, that’s all I’m sayin’……..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:58:32am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:59:25am

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

Ponder this. Comey tanked Clinton so he could eventually bring down a President Trump with the Russian collusion… Talk about a legacy.

Or he really thought there was something to the Russian propaganda about Clinton and went with it. Once he realized it was all BS, he decided to get even.

Man. Who the F knows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:00:12am
“Unauthorized dissemination of classified or…legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 yrs in federal prison.” -@TGowdySC
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:02:21am

Spicey’s presser today should be fun.

Also, wonder if the yam still plans to hold his campaign rally in Louisville tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:03:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:03:33am
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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:03:35am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicey’s presser today should be fun.

Also, wonder if the yam still plans to hold his campaign rally in Louisville tonight.

Full torch light parade.

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Skip Intro  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:03:36am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicey’s presser today should be fun.

Also, wonder if the yam still plans to hold his campaign rally in Louisville tonight.

Of course he will. What else does he have to do?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:05:29am

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

Ponder this. Comey tanked Clinton so he could eventually bring down a President Trump with the Russian collusion… Talk about a legacy.

As fucked up as that would be, it does sound plausible. Like sacrificing a queen to take the king or something.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:05:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:06:00am
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:08:32am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Unauthorized dissemination of classified or…legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 yrs in federal prison.” -@TGowdySC

Gowdy ought to lawyer up over his unauthorized dissemination of classified or legally protected materials throughout years of investigating Clinton over Benghazi and all the rest.

Oh wait…. he’s threatening the leakers who identified that Trump and his cabal of cronies are up to their eyeballs in Russia contacts (at a bare minimum) and colluding at worst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:09:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:10:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:11:34am

THE LEAKS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE OVAL OFFICE!! SCARY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:12:31am
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Jay C  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:12:47am

re: #248 FormerDirtDart

“Project Dragnet gave countless government employees private data on Trump”

Right: those were probably the ones paid to sift through issues of the New York Post and the Daily News for Trump dirt and gossip….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:16:15am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:17:29am

re: #274 Jay C

“Project Dragnet gave countless government employees private data on Trump”

Right: those were probably the ones paid to sift through issues of the New York Post and the Daily News for Trump dirt and gossip….

In that “Project Dragnet” involves a couple of people in cubicles at the IRS “surveilling” Trump’s “personal data” in his tax records…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:17:29am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

OMGROFLMAOOOOOO Conaway: Does the Washington Post write counterintelligence assessments for the FBI?

Is Conaway a congress-critter? Thought this was referring to Kellyanne for a moment.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:18:17am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

THE LEAKS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE OVAL OFFICE!! SCARY

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Clapper didn’t say no offense. He said none as far as he knew which is why it needs to be you know investigated.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:19:06am

It’s always interesting to see which folks in Congress are ready for primetime, with a stage like this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:19:24am

re: #277 Sir John Barron

Is Conaway a congress-critter? Thought this was referring to Kellyanne for a moment.

Rep Mike Conaway (R-TX)

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:20:38am
Excruciating: Comey tries to explain to a Republican that if Putin wanted Clinton to lose, he wanted Trump to win
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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:21:35am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

THE LEAKS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE OVAL OFFICE!! SCARY

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Feels like Grassley and now Trump are splitting a fine hair by saying that there is no evidence that Trump himself colluded.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:22:52am

re: #282 Mike Lamb

Feels like Grassley and now Trump are splitting a fine hair by saying that there is no evidence that Trump himself colluded.

The Trump Campaign, yeah maybe.

But DT himself? No conclusive evidence.

///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:24:56am
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rhuarc  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:25:29am

I know it’s not ethical for reporters to do so, but I’d love to see every single reporter drop the name of their Republican sources for the last 18 months on Benghazi. Let’s see how many of these weasels currently upset about leaks were actually leakers themselves.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:25:36am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Republicans were smart, they’d stay away from any inquiry that might actually make Trump or themselves look bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:27:29am

Comey: “Mr. Putin would like people who like him.” nbcnews.to

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:28:48am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:29:19am
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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:30:02am

re: #171 Dr. Matt

So-called president Drump is actually tweeting about his electoral college “win”. Wow.

Hopefully he is reminiscing his good times because he knows they are possibly short lived.

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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:30:40am

Could the President ask/order the CIA or NSA to “wiretap” Trump Tower’s phone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:31:06am

re: #290 ObserverArt

Hopefully he is reminiscing his good times because he knows they are possibly short lived.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:32:12am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:32:50am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Leaking is bad, unless it involves outing a CIA agent.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:34:06am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

That escalated quickly.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:34:50am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:35:02am

I can’t listen at work, I can only follow along. From everything I am hearing/seeing I guess it is safe to assume there are a lot of bombshells today and none look good for Cheeto?

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:35:22am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

The way Trump gets to dump Comey? Claim that Comey was the leaker. That’s rich, considering that Comey’s letter in no small part was what got Trump elected

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:35:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:35:27am

re: #291 Henny Penny

Could the President ask/order the CIA or NSA to “wiretap” Trump Tower’s phone?

no

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:36:18am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

Given FBI is probing Trump-Russia contacts, maybe we should pause all administration action until we figure out what the hell’s going on?

Simply impose a ban on all words coming out of Trump’s mouth…

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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:36:35am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, that settles it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:36:37am

FBI Director Comey refuses to deny he briefed President Obama on calls made by Michael Flynn to Russia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:37:35am

re: #302 Henny Penny

Well, that settles it.

Comey was asked that exact question and his answer was “no”.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:39:22am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

FBI Director Comey refuses to deny he briefed President Obama on calls made by Michael Flynn to Russia

And?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:41:13am

@K8brannen
The president is basically live-tweeting a congressional hearing. I barely have time to do this. How does he?

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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:41:25am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Comey was asked that exact question and his answer was “no”.

I didn’t know Comey was the director of the CIA.

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Lupin  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:43:12am

Wait until… not now but at some point in the near future, I’d bet… they get into the money laundering. As Reuters’ recent report showed, many Russian oligarchs have bought Trump properties in Florida for largely inflated amounts. Trump’s US operations are not that successful. Where does get his billions? Russian money-laundering. He’s like a character from the tv show THE BLACK LIST.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:43:19am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flynn was under investigation for good damned reason. He was a loose cannon all along and he was an undeclared foreign agent taking money from Turkey (and who knows who else), lying about his contacts, etc.

Flynn is the tip of the iceberg, as the rest of the Trump inner circle is up to no good as well.

That Trump thinks that any of this exonerates him is laughable, and shows that he still doesn’t get how any of this works.

Nothing that came out today helps him.

Nothing.

The focus on what the members of Congress said is not nearly as important as what those testifying said (or didn’t say).

Comey clearly states Obama didn’t order wire taps.
He also clearly stated that investigations into Trump campaign began in July 2016. Trump invited those frickin’ investigations through his own words/actions - daring Russia to interfere in US elections and attack political rival to gain advantages.

That Trump surrounded himself with people who were linked to Russia wasn’t an outlier either. That was purposeful. Flynn, Page, Manafort, Stone and Trump himself all have contacts and questionable actions/statements about what they’d done.

Stone in particular is in trouble IMO for what he tweeted over the past week. The FBI knows this too. Same with Manafort. None in the Trump admin have clean hands, especially Trump since he picked these extremists to advise and guide him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:44:07am

re: #307 Henny Penny

I didn’t know Comey was the director of the CIA.

What difference does that make?
The answer is still “no”.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:44:54am
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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:45:34am

re: #307 Henny Penny

I didn’t know Comey was the director of the CIA.

It doesn’t matter if he’s the QB of the Baltimore Ravens.

The point is that no president can order a wiretap. He was asked the question and replied ‘no president can.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:45:35am

re: #309 lawhawk

Nothing that came out today helps him.

All they can do is look for any inconsistencies and keep going on about nefarious leakers and how they should all be put in jail and their testimony disqualified because it was leaked…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:46:46am

flailing…

The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:47:25am
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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:48:05am

She is live tweeting Gorsuch hearings.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:48:27am

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

.@TGowdySC names 7 Obama admin officials he clearly suspects as having leaked Flynn’s name to WaPo/NYT. Presents no evidence.

— Jake Tapper

Evidence is for looooosers and other non-Republicans.

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Lupin  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:48:45am

If you want to see what a banana republic is like close up, watch the hearings.

Never in my lifetime would have I dreamed our country could fall so low… (I’m 63.)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:49:23am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process. pic.twitter.com

— President Trump

Then why has he been bticing all morning about Comey, the FBI, etc?

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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:49:47am

re: #312 makeitstop

No President can order the FBI to “wiretap” phones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:50:03am

#Comey obliquely suggests Trump staff leaked the meeting about the dossier #ComeyHearing

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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:52:05am

re: #320 Henny Penny

No President can order the FBI to “wiretap” phones.

What the fuck is your point?

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:53:05am

re: #320 Henny Penny

No president can order any intelligence agency to wiretap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:53:26am

re: #322 makeitstop

What the fuck is your point?

It has to be Obama’s fault, somehow it must be his fault…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:54:02am

re: #322 makeitstop

What the fuck is your point?

I think he’s trying to suggest that Comey can only comment on what the FBI can do and pretending that the CIA and NSA operate under different law.

It is a poor attempt to try to misdirect.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:54:38am

Stop Lindsey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:54:40am

re: #322 makeitstop

No President can order the FBI to “wiretap” phones.

What the fuck is your point?

It means that Obama used extragovernmental Soros-funded operatives to “tapp” Trump Towers

Because there is no way that he cannot have done it because DT says he did.

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Lupin  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:55:54am

I think Gorsuch’s confirmation hearings should be postponed until after we expose the whole cabal.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:56:10am

Can we chop on one of his gamey trolling buttocks to grill?

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Jay C  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:57:37am

Is Devin Nunes Chairman of the House Missing The Point Committee or something? Of course the Russians would prefer a Republican to a Democrat in the White House: IF that Republican is a shady businessman with vast financial liabilities* in Russian hands? And a history of milking Russian contacts for personal gain?

When it comes to what used to quaintly be called “corruption”, Donald Trump’s Administration makes the previous benchmark (U. S. Grant’s) look like a choir of angels. Worse, because unlike Trump, Grant personally didn’t much profit from the graft and payola around him. Another Presidential tradition tossed by the wayside, I guess.

*Not proven, though. Yet.

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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:58:00am

re: #322 makeitstop

Well, my original question was:
re: #291 Henny Penny

Could the President ask/order the CIA or NSA to “wiretap” Trump Tower’s phone?

and for that matter could the:
TWA
NRO
TSA
DEA
NEA
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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:59:11am

re: #323 JordanRules

No president can order any intelligence agency to wiretap.

I would like to read more about that.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:59:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:59:38am

re: #331 Henny Penny

Well, my original question was:

and for that matter could the:
TWA
NRO
TSA
DEA
NEA
///

Adm Rogers/NSA is sitting right next to Comey and agreed with him.

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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:00:08am

re: #331 Henny Penny

Well, my original question was:

and for that matter could the:
TWA
NRO
TSA
DEA
NEA
///

Answer, still no.

But continue being obtuse.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:00:24am

re: #328 Lupin

For sure. Part of the desired destruction of our institutions is overwhelming them.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:00:44am
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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:00:52am

re: #325 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It is a poor attempt to try to misdirect.

It is more of an attempt to parse the words spoken by politicians and others. Words mean things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:01:20am
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Henny Penny  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:01:51am

re: #335 makeitstop

Answer, still no.

But continue being obtuse.

I Say yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:02:59am

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:03:36am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Trumpites are desperately trying to control the narrative.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:04:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:04:28am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:04:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:07:02am

NSA Director Rogers tells Congress unmasking individuals endangers national security.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:07:21am
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Jay C  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:08:49am

re: #342 Dr Lizardo

The Trumpites are desperately trying to control the narrative.

Which they won’t be able to, so the next step is likely to be giving up on trying to control the narrative, and make every overheated hysterical effort they can to simply discredit it: i.e. get their “friendly” (RWNJ) media to start blaring
OBAMA!!!
SOROS!!!!
DEEP STATE!!!
POLITICS!!!
LOSER DEMOCRATS!!!!
ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!!!!

as loudly and often as possible. And of of course, Cult 45 (love that tag!) will eat it up….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:09:44am

re: #338 Henny Penny

It is more of an attempt to parse the words spoken by politicians and others. Words mean things.

Yes, they do. And, leaving out my preceding paragraph about all intel agencies operating under the same law is a blatant misdirection.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:09:47am
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:10:31am

re: #348 Jay C

Which they won’t be able to, so the next step is likely to be giving up on trying to control the narrative, and make every overheated hysterical effort they can to simply discredit it: i.e. get their “friendly” (RWNJ) media to start blaring
OBAMA!!!
SOROS!!!!
DEEP STATE!!!
POLITICS!!!
LOSER DEMOCRATS!!!!
ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!!!!

as loudly and often as possible. And of of course, Cult 45 (love that tag!) will eat it up….

You’re missing the “could have ordered the TLA to tap” that we’re seeing here.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:10:40am
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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:10:40am

re: #347 JordanRules

Democrat Brad Weinstrup of Ohio asks if FBI has any info that the Trump team made promises to Russians re sanctions etc. Comey: no comment.

I’m starting to believe that they’ve got them dead to rights on collusion.

Audio and everything.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:10:56am

re: #333 Dr. Matt

Good?

These people voted for Trump thinking that Trump will cut other people’s programs (read blacks/minorities) and bring back mining jobs that are never ever coming back.

That they’re angry about it is laughable since Trump always lies, and the only constant is the GOP plan to cut govt programs all to enact bigger tax cuts for the rich and shift the burdens to everyone else.

My sympathy meter is all out of fucks to give for these people.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:12:58am

re: #353 makeitstop

At a minimum I think Stone and Manafort are screwed. Flynn and Sessions are already screwed under separate issues (FARA and perjury - at a minimum, respectively)

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:13:56am

re: #353 makeitstop

Right! Though it’s hard for me to imagine so many of them being dumb enough to ignore possibility of being caught with SIGINT like Flynn might have been. But I don’t really inhabit a world of extreme privilege like they do.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:14:44am

re: #354 lawhawk

Good?

These people voted for Trump thinking that Trump will cut other people’s programs (read blacks/minorities) and bring back mining jobs that are never ever coming back.

That they’re angry about it is laughable since Trump always lies, and the only constant is the GOP plan to cut govt programs all to enact bigger tax cuts for the rich and shift the burdens to everyone else.

My sympathy meter is all out of fucks to give for these people.

I agree. They deserve to suffer. My empathy for the less fortunate, who vote against their best interest, is gone. People need to suffer for real or they will never learn. Fuck ‘em.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:14:59am

re: #350 The Vicious Babushka

Over 100 leaflets with hand-drawn swastikas left at Virginia Tech Chabad

Say what you like about Virginia National Socialists, at least they have a work ethic.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:15:42am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart

That’s good!

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b.d.  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:15:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:16:12am

OOPS! GOP Rep Turner “succeeds” in getting #Comey to explain there is “credible allegation” or “reasonable basis” to investigate Trump team

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:18:32am
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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:19:37am

re: #356 JordanRules

Right! Though it’s hard for me to imagine so many of them being dumb enough to ignore possibility of being caught with SIGINT like Flynn might have been. But I don’t really inhabit a world of extreme privilege like they do.

I’ve been saying all along that by dint of being part of the team that ‘won’ (cough), they believe they’re bulletproof. And judging by the lengths that congress is going to in attempting to provide cover, they’re right to a point.

They’re betting that people won’t care if they’re caught red-handed.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:19:49am
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:22:28am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL.
Please proceed…

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Wait for the trial Roger, you’ll have your chance.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:22:36am

re: #355 lawhawk

At a minimum I think Stone and Manafort are screwed. Flynn and Sessions are already screwed under separate issues (FARA and perjury - at a minimum, respectively)

Should be. But in reality? I really don’t know anymore considering the party in power hates the nation…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:25:23am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

NSA Director Rogers tells Congress unmasking individuals endangers national security. pic.twitter.com

— President Trump

Whut?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:25:59am
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Amory Blaine  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:26:00am

Wisconsin legislators put constitutional rights at risk

A well-funded national campaign to rewrite the U.S. Constitution to the benefit of wealthy special interests has found its way into the Wisconsin legislature. Over the last few weeks, Wisconsin Republicans have jumped on the bandwagon to push for a dangerous new constitutional convention. The proposal (Senate Joint Resolution 18 introduced last Thursday) would add Wisconsin to an alarming and growing number of states calling for a constitutional convention to impose a federal balanced budget amendment. But a constitutional convention, if unleashed, is unlikely to call it quits after a single amendment when there is nothing stopping it from making an unlimited number of changes to our nation’s founding document.

Under Article V of the U.S. Constitution, two-third of state legislatures (34) can pass applications to call a constitutional convention to propose amendments. Throughout the Constitution’s 226-year history, this process has never been used. Yet, 28 states have now called for an Article V convention to add a balanced budget amendment. That means Article V advocates are just six states away from reaching their goal.

The secretive big money groups behind the call for an Article V convention are counting on Wisconsin to help them reach their goal. Several of these organizations have close financial ties to the billionaire mega-donor Koch brothers. Gov. Scott Walker is also known for his close relationship with the Kochs’ donor network, which is why it’s not surprising that Walker endorsed the idea of call an Article V convention a few months ago. The bill’s chief sponsor, Sen. Chris Kapenga, is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a secretive corporate lobbying group funded by the Koch brothers that has been pushing Article V legislation across the country.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:26:24am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

POTUS account tweets falsely that NSA and FBI testified no influence on electoral process; testimony was specifically on vote tallying. pic.twitter.com

— NBC Nightly News

The Trumpheads won’t like this by NBC news one bit.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:27:25am

Remember when DT waxed rapturously at his rallies about how great the Wikileaks leaks were?

Good times.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:27:53am

re: #371 Sir John Barron

Remember when DT waxed rapturously at his rallies about how great the Wikileaks leaks were?

Good times.

IT NEVER HAPPENED!!1!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:28:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:29:30am

Pres. Trump says NSA & FBI told Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process. Dir. Comey said the intent was there. More at 3pET

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:30:11am

How Trump’s day is going

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:30:23am
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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:32:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:32:57am

FBI Director Comey says classified leaks to the media have been “unusually active” recently.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:34:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:35:09am

re: #380 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“inaginary”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:35:12am
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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:36:23am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

GG’s narrative is coming apart.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:37:39am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:40:26am
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Franklin  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:40:44am

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Jay C  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:41:07am

re: #380 jaunte

He was never that mighty in the first place, but Jeez, how Greenwald has fallen.

IIJM, or is Glenn dismissing “imaginary Kremlin plots” pretty much a sure indication that said plots are quite real?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:41:10am

re: #383 jaunte

GG’s narrative is coming apart.

The IC is the enemy. The American state is the enemy.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:42:36am

re: #386 Franklin

She did get breaks, as funny as that is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:42:39am

re: #387 Jay C

He was never that mighty in the first place, but Jeez, how Greenwald has fallen.

IIJM, or is Glenn dismissing “imaginary Kremlin plots” pretty much a sure indication that said plots are quite real?

GG’s Tweet is from January but yeah.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:44:04am
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:44:38am

re: #387 Jay C

It’s Greenwald. Who cares what he says at this point (or any point).

The guy has repeatedly shown that he’s not interested in anything other than furthering his career even if it means backing the likes of Wikileaks and Snowden.

He’s got a vested interest in trying to cast doubt on the US intel community finding Wikileaks and their connections to Russia. If it turns out Wikileaks is a mouthpiece for Russia, that means that Greenwald by extension is one as well.

As we learn more about Wikileaks, it’s clear that the entity is pushing Putin’s agenda, with just a veneer of plausible deniability, but even that is wearing thin.

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Franklin  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:46:26am

re: #389 Belafon

She did get breaks, as funny as that is.

Oh I know, just thought the phrasing was funny.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:46:51am

re: #391 jaunte

I wonder when that was?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:47:35am

Daaaaaaaaamn

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Amory Blaine  Mar 20, 2017 • 11:51:57am

re: #350 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

The master race can’t figure out the xerox yet.


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