Fox News Suspends Andrew Napolitano Over Wiretap Conspiracy Theories Touted by Trump

But he’ll probably be back soon because the Fox audience loves his conspiracy theories
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His frequent appearances on the batshit crazy Alex Jones show were no problem, his 9/11 Truther conspiracy theories were no problem, his neo-Confederate Civil War revisionism was no problem, but Fox News suspended froggish “legal analyst” Andrew Napolitano this week after Donald Trump cited him as a source for his bogus claim that the British helped President Obama spy on Trump Tower.

A Fox News spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment Monday night. The Dow Jones Newswire also reported the story, along with speculation that Napolitano wouldn’t be gone too long from Fox. The longtime commentator and purveyor of conspiracy theories has a significant following.

The move would distance Fox News from allegations that British officials, as well as National Security Agency Director Michael S. Rogers, have denounced as false. In tweets earlier this month, Trump accused Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower in what he called a “Nixon/Watergate” plot.

So even Fox News felt they needed to distance themselves from Napolitano’s risible, inflammatory nonsense, but our so-called president has yet to do so.

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180 comments
1
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:16:28pm

All that other stuff was good for business.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:19:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:24:33pm
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freetoken  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:25:51pm

“suspends” - doesn’t that means he comes back at some time?

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Jack Burton  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:25:58pm

“Donald Trump cited him as a source for his bogus claim that the British helped President Obama spy on Trump Tower.”

Does this mean that Andrew Napolitano is Donald Trump’s ass? That’s where he’s pulling most of his ideas from.

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KingKenrod  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:26:39pm

Trump pointed at Napolitano and Fox said “do we fire him right away or wait ‘til quittin’ time?”. But he’ll be back, of course.

Kind of sad to see them jettison a guy who’s been a popular nutball on their network for decades (literally). I mean it’s not sad to see him go because he’s terrible, just sad to see a large news network acting as Trump’s propaganda arm.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:26:47pm
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freetoken  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:32:05pm

Does Fox own up that Napolitano has been spouted all sorts of hate-filled idiocy all the time they’ve had him on their networks???

No, they don’t.

The only reason they can him now is that Hannity has seniority, and Napolitano made Hannity’s boy Trump look bad.

And that is the only reason Fox “suspends” this guy - because finally he hurt one of their own.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:34:14pm

Oh boy, Deadmau5 just went there:

Facebook Post

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:36:55pm
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Frenchy  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:40:08pm

I’m not sure it’s even so much Fox trying to distance itself from a conspiracy theory as it is that Trump decided that he wanted to use Napolitano as a fall guy in order to slither out of his own bad behavior, and Fox is playing right along with that.

You think if Trump doesn’t make himself look like a fool by publicly buying into this conspiracy theory that Fox gives two shits that Napolitano made it up on their air? Of course they don’t.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:40:22pm

“…his lack of self-awareness of his theory’s flaw plus his acerbic dismissiveness of real-world conflicts are not a good sign that he has the appropriate judicial temperament for the Supreme Court.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:43:47pm

re: #12 jaunte

Too many big words give Trumpers a headache.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:44:59pm

Can the GOP confirm Gorsuch without any Dem votes?

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MsJ  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:45:30pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Can the GOP confirm Gorsuch without any Dem votes?

I believe so, yes.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:45:43pm

Franken on the freezing trucker case.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:46:18pm

You lost Colorado because places with higher metrics of health and education didn’t vote for your ass, and Colorado is considered healthy and educated compared to, say, Mississippi.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:50:26pm

re: #15 MsJ

I believe so, yes.

Aw, shit.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:52:15pm

In one way, having the conspiracy industry’s man in the White House is an advantage: They have to put up or shut up. Trump can’t very well claim he doesn’t have the power to find and reveal the evidence, a common conspira-liar technique for dodging accountability. Similarly, they and their Russian clients can’t whip up another Jade Helm nontroversy without looking like fools and making their guy look weak. That won’t stop them, of course——facts and reason never do——but it can bring their real nature as commercialized sociopaths into high relief and help prevent the recruitment of more dupes.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:52:35pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

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You lost Colorado because places with higher metrics of health and education didn’t vote for your ass, and Colorado is considered healthy and educated compared to, say, Mississippi.

As compared say, to my state just up the road from you.

I live so close to Colorado I can almost smell all that tax money they’re making when we have a southerly wind… .

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:52:49pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Can the GOP confirm Gorsuch without any Dem votes?

Sure. They can turn the US into a one party dictatorship if they want, and once they get Trump’s guy on the SC why wouldn’t they?

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(alpuz)  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:54:05pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Aw, shit.

My motto these days.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:55:10pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Sure. They can turn the US into a one party dictatorship if they want, and once they get Trump’s guy on the SC why wouldn’t they?

Well, there is still the filibuster (which can really only delay, not prevent) … however it remains to be seen if Mitch McConnell would blow away that tool.

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MsJ  Mar 21, 2017 • 3:57:13pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Aw, shit.

I’m not 100% certain but everything I’ve read says yes. And, yeah, shit.

Lifetime appointment of who seems like as temperamentally inappropriate and snug as shit as the temperamentally inappropriate smug as shit schmuck who appointed him.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:00:03pm

STICK TO SPORTS!

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:00:19pm

re: #23 Anymouse

Well, there is still the filibuster (which can really only delay, not prevent) … however it remains to be seen if Mitch McConnell would blow away that tool.

I think the GOP sees that they’re this close - my fingers are really close,together - to getting a permanent GOP majority government. Once they have that filibusters are no longer necessary since they will be able to rule by decree.

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Ubiq  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:01:08pm

re: #15 MsJ

I believe so, yes.

The Dems could filibuster. The GOP could then get rid of the Filibuster, which they are loathe to do, because they imagine someday they may be in the minority.

But the calculus is more complex than that. We’re not getting a moderate on the Supreme Court anytime soon. As odious as Gorsuch is, he’s way better than a Roy Moore (or any of the many cretins that, say, Mike Pence might nominate). And Gorsuch is probably, all told, a lot less petty and vindictive as the Scalia he’s replacing, and then we’re back to the 5-4 court where Kennedy is the sanity swing that we’ve endured the last few years.

If there wasn’t anything else going on, I’d urge the Dems to fight this fight. But exposing Russia and defeating TrumpCare are far more important fights, and far more winnable ones as well.

YMMV.

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Ubiq  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:06:21pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

I think the GOP sees that they’re this close - my fingers are really close,together - to getting a permanent GOP majority government. Once they have that filibusters are no longer necessary since they will be able to rule by decree.

Meh, it’s a mirage.

In 2008, all the papers were talking about how Obama had built a permanent Democratic majority, and the Republican party was nigh obsolete. In 2000, people were calling Karl Rove a genius for building a seemingly invincible Republican majority. And so on. And so forth.

In truth, this country tends to flip the presidency every 8 years. A party holding for 12 years is actually rare, even if the incumbent president is well liked. Eisenhower was popular but Nixon still lost. Clinton was popular but Gore still lost. Obama was popular but Clinton still lost. Bush I was, if you look at the historical record, an anomaly.

If the Republicans want to think that, by all means, encourage them. In practice, what happens is the party in power gets complacent and starts to divide into idiotic infighting based on a belief their side is entitled to the white house (see Bernie Bros), whereas the side out of power gets hungry for it.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:07:02pm

re: #27 Ubiq

The Dems could filibuster. The GOP could then get rid of the Filibuster, which they are loathe to do, because they imagine someday they may be in the minority.

But the calculus is more complex than that. We’re not getting a moderate on the Supreme Court anytime soon. As odious as Gorsuch is, he’s way better than a Roy Moore (or any of the many cretins that, say, Mike Pence might nominate). And Gorsuch is probably, all told, a lot less petty and vindictive as the Scalia he’s replacing, and then we’re back to the 5-4 court where Kennedy is the sanity swing that we’ve endured the last few years.

If there wasn’t anything else going on, I’d urge the Dems to fight this fight. But exposing Russia and defeating TrumpCare are far more important fights, and far more winnable ones as well.

YMMV.

There are still Gorsuch’s rulings on such things as disability rights for children and such (he’s a Betsy DeVos kind of judge).

I just came back from the general store, where the proprietor is watching the hearings (something he never does). He tried to bait me into a political argument from which I demurred … he said that the hearing seemed so partisan to him and Judge Gorsuch seems like “a reasonable guy.” He pointed out Democrats are trying to dig up dirt on him.

I just noted that both parties will present their best arguments in favour or opposed: the Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment so they will want to ensure that they hear everything they can about the justice’s views before casting a vote.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:13:21pm

Wikipedia: Sergei Magnitsky en.wikipedia.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:16:01pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:17:49pm

Why hasn’t Trump exposed the Sandy Hook hoax and initiated legal action against those responsible for such a diabolical plan? Why isn’t he exposing the troof about chemtrails and shutting down the program? UFOs? The 9-11 false flag operation?
Conspira-liars would say it’s because the “deep state” conceals it from the President. This,again, makes their guy look weak and suggests that there is no point in voting. The latter result is plainly inconsistent with the goals of the Russians, the Dominionists, and of many other conspiracy supporters. It also raises the question of how these nefarious Deep State operatives could hide all this from the President but not from Alex Jones and Roger Stone.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:19:20pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:28:14pm

re: #33 Kragar

Ok, can we let this one go now? I think a dozen times is enough.

And yeah, I’m getting crankier by the minute these days. I may have to take a time out, like klys and some others have.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:28:23pm

“If we get this [medicaid deth pact] done, and tax reform, he believes we pick up 10 seats in the Senate and we add to our majority in the House,” said Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), the first member of Congress who endorsed Trump’s presidential bid. “If we don’t get it done, we lose the House and the Senate.”

if you think not passing it will be bad for you, just wait and see how really fucked you’ll be if you do pass it

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:30:51pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:32:03pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Aw, shit.

But if the Democrats stand firm, the Republicans will have to end the filibuster to get this done. That is why the Democrats need to filibuster.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:32:52pm

Voter fraud is a problem…with Republicans.

WELD COUNTY, Colo. - The former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party is charged with forgery and voter fraud for allegedly forging his wife’s mail-in ballot from last year’s election, according to court records and sources.

Steven Curtis was the chairman of the state party from 1997 to 1999. He was charged Feb. 1 with one count of forgery of a public record, a fifth-degree felony, and an elections mail-in ballot offense, a misdemeanor.

The criminal complaint for his arrest says that Curtis tampered with a 2016 General Election mail-in ballot. Sources tell Denver7 that he signed the ballot, which was his wife’s, with her name, which led to the forgery charge.

The misdemeanor charge stems from him allegedly filling out her ballot.

If convicted, Curtis faces a maximum of between 1 and 3 years’ incarceration for the forgery charge and up to 18 months and a $5,000 fine on the misdemeanor charge.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:33:37pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“If we get this [medicaid deth pact] done, and tax reform, he believes we pick up 10 seats in the Senate and we add to our majority in the House,” said Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), the first member of Congress who endorsed Trump’s presidential bid. “If we don’t get it done, we lose the House and the Senate.”

if you think not passing it will be bad for you, just wait and see how really fucked you’ll be if you do pass it

Like Trump even fucking knows.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:35:42pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:37:28pm

really it warms the cockles of my grody old hippie heart to see the club for growth running ads against paul ryan’s signature granny starving legislation hehehehehe…

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:38:26pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

As I recall, the Weld County Sheriff is a wingnut trying to lead a secession movement from the rest of the state.

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nines09  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:40:17pm

Hard to imagine this shit stain actually crossing some line in that fever swamp of filth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:41:07pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Can the GOP confirm Gorsuch without any Dem votes?

needs 60 votes

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:41:45pm

Everybody is giving Trump blowjobs now.

Lockheed CEO touts Trump’s role in driving down the F-35’s costs

sanluisobispo.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:43:02pm

re: #38 EPR-radar

But if the Democrats stand firm, the Republicans will have to end the filibuster to get this done. That is why the Democrats need to filibuster.

41 Dems have to stand firm. And of course, whatever else you say about Gorsuch, he’s not Robert Bork. He’s a nominee pretty much any Republican President would have nominated.

So the question is, is this the hill to die on? Lots of folks on the Right are happy to tell you that, no, this isn’t the place to make a stand. But the same folks probably also were at least okay with McConnell breaking with all tradition just to deny Obama his prerogative to nominate a replacement for Scalia. Oh, they may have said, “Gosh, that’s a bit unseemly,” but really, they’re okay with it. So, what with one thing and another, they’re not the best judges of it.

Personally, I am STILL so angry about McConnell’s shit that I’d support filibustering Gorsuch on principle. And I’d bet a lot of Dems would be very angry with the Senate Dems if they DON’T. I don’t know if it’s a smart political move, but sometimes politics isn’t just about politics.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:43:45pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

Voter fraud is a problem…with Republicans.

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I don’t see the big deal here. The little woman just needed help filling out her ballot correctly.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:44:33pm

That FBI Record Vault release is James Comey’s letter to Congress saying they were re-opening an investigation into Hillary Clinton’s E-mail server in October of last year.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:46:00pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

I still remember the Republicans saying they’d let the Supreme Court disappear before they’d allow a Hillary Clinton nominee to have a hearing so you can put me in the filibuster hell yes camp.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:46:22pm
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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:46:34pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

41 Dems have to stand firm. And of course, whatever else you say about Gorsuch, he’s not Robert Bork. He’s a nominee pretty much any Republican President would have nominated.

So the question is, is this the hill to die on? Lots of folks on the Right are happy to tell you that, no, this isn’t the place to make a stand. But the same folks probably also were at least okay with McConnell breaking with all tradition just to deny Obama his prerogative to nominate a replacement for Scalia. Oh, they may have said, “Gosh, that’s a bit unseemly,” but really, they’re okay with it. So, what with one thing and another, they’re not the best judges of it.

Personally, I am STILL so angry about McConnell’s shit that I’d support filibustering Gorsuch on principle. And I’d bet a lot of Dems would be very angry with the Senate Dems if they DON’T. I don’t know if it’s a smart political move, but sometimes politics isn’t just about politics.

Well, the Democrats can certainly get Gorsuch’s record on the record.

They could also make the argument and throw it in Mitch McConnell’s face that while there is an investigation into Russia subverting our elections we should not be confirming Supreme Court justices nominated by that president.

That said, I don’t know the best way forward with this.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:47:18pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

41 Dems have to stand firm. And of course, whatever else you say about Gorsuch, he’s not Robert Bork. He’s a nominee pretty much any Republican President would have nominated.

So the question is, is this the hill to die on? Lots of folks on the Right are happy to tell you that, no, this isn’t the place to make a stand. But the same folks probably also were at least okay with McConnell breaking with all tradition just to deny Obama his prerogative to nominate a replacement for Scalia. Oh, they may have said, “Gosh, that’s a bit unseemly,” but really, they’re okay with it. So, what with one thing and another, they’re not the best judges of it.

Personally, I am STILL so angry about McConnell’s shit that I’d support filibustering Gorsuch on principle. And I’d bet a lot of Dems would be very angry with the Senate Dems if they DON’T. I don’t know if it’s a smart political move, but sometimes politics isn’t just about politics.

IMO it is essential for the Democrats to filibuster the Gorsuch nomination for the reasons you give above.

Also, the Democrats get absolutely NOTHING for going along with the Gorsuch nomination.

There simply is no “powder” for the Democrats to keep dry. The filibuster is gone for everything as soon as the Republicans want to end it. So force their hand. Maximum resistance to Trump is the least we should expect from Congressional Democrats.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:47:44pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

If I hear one more crack about my senator, I’m going to start crushing some skulls. There’s nothing wrong with a meatheaded actor as a governor, but a sharp-witted comedian as a senator? God forbid!

Evening Lizardim.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:48:27pm

I heard this on the way home, a local Dallas singer named Cassie Holt. I guess there’s no video for the song: Iframe.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:48:38pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

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died laughing

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Decatur Deb  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:50:16pm

Most recent of the chain-lettery emails from a mildly RW Army Buddy. Perhaps his personal dawn is breaking a little:

There are important questions to be answered about recent LGBT
bathroom legislation and whether transgender people will be permitted
to use a restroom of the gender that they “identify” with or be
required to use the restroom of their biological gender.

If the latter, will public restrooms be required to have a Genital
Inspection Station posted at the entrance to all public restrooms?

Who will have to pay these Pecker Checkers, the people using the
restroom, or the entity that owns the restroom?

And how much money will a Pecker Checker be paid to check peckers?

Or, do we pay a Pecker Checker by the number of peckers checked?

How many peckers can a Pecker Checker check if a Pecker Checker
could check peckers?

What has this country come to when the U.S. Department of Labor
has to create a new job description of Politically Correct Restroom
Service Inspectors?

Want to guess their motto ………..???

“If You gotta pee - We gotta see!”

(He flew MEDEVAC in Viet Nam—he gets to be a little weird.)

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:50:26pm

re: #54 thedopefishlives

If I hear one more crack about my senator, I’m going to start crushing some skulls. There’s nothing wrong with a meatheaded actor as a governor, but a sharp-witted comedian as a senator? God forbid!

Evening Lizardim.

Can we trade Deb Fischer for Al Franken for a week or two? Please?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:51:05pm

re: #58 Anymouse

Can we trade Deb Fischer for Al Franken for a week or two? Please?

Consider that we produced Michele Bachmann (R-Mars). Not a chance in hell we’re giving up a gem like Franken. No bleeding way.

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:51:16pm

re: #35 Skip Intro

Ok, can we let this one go now? I think a dozen times is enough.

And yeah, I’m getting crankier by the minute these days. I may have to take a time out, like klys and some others have.

How do you think I feel? I started out cranky!

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CleverToad  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:51:29pm

re: #54 thedopefishlives

If I hear one more crack about my senator, I’m going to start crushing some skulls. There’s nothing wrong with a meatheaded actor as a governor, but a sharp-witted comedian as a senator? God forbid!

Evening Lizardim.

Sighs in envy — damn good Senator you’ve got there. Wish I could count on my Dem waffler to oppose his “fellow Coloradan” Gorsuch.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:51:52pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Well, the Democrats can certainly get Gorsuch’s record on the record.

They could also make the argument and throw it in Mitch McConnell’s face that while there is an investigation into Russia subverting our elections we should not be confirming Supreme Court justices nominated by that president.

That said, I don’t know the best way forward with this.

The best way forward is to filibuster with spines of steel. That will force the Republicans to end the filibuster to get this nomination through. Having Republicans get rid of the Senate filibuster is the only good that can come out of this situation, so that should be the goal.

Gorsuch is getting on SCOTUS. That part is inevitable. The question is whether the Democrats get something useful along the way or not.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:52:29pm

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Consider that we produced Michele Bachmann (R-Mars). Not a chance in hell we’re giving up a gem like Franken. No bleeding way.

Ok, I’ll throw in Adrian Smith (R-Tumbleweeds). He’s far less crazy than Michele Bachmann.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:52:40pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

McConnell was willing to bet the farm on a hail Mary chance that Trump and the GOP would win when ALL the polling was against them, so the least the Dems can do is get their hair tussled a bit by staging a filibuster, even if McConnell sends it down in a nuclear blast.

You have to be willing to stand and fight for something, don’t you?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:52:49pm

re: #54 thedopefishlives

If I hear one more crack about my senator, I’m going to start crushing some skulls. There’s nothing wrong with a meatheaded actor as a governor, but a sharp-witted comedian as a senator? God forbid!

Evening Lizardim.

Al was the best part of today’s hearing right up there with Amy Klobuchar

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:52:53pm

re: #61 CleverToad

Sighs in envy — damn good Senator you’ve got there. Wish I could count on my Dem waffler to oppose his “fellow Coloradan” Gorsuch.

People laughed when he got elected. Hell, I wasn’t even sure about him at the start. He wasted zero time proving he knew exactly what he was about.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:53:35pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

Al was the best part of today’s hearing right up there with Amy Klobuchar

Hey, look at that. Wild north country, represent!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:54:40pm

re: #67 thedopefishlives

Hey, look at that. Wild north country, represent!

Amy really took Gorsuch to the legal woodshed, especially when he started mansplaining the law to her.

Bad move on his part.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:54:40pm

re: #64 Skip Intro

McConnell was willing to bet the farm on a hail Mary chance that Trump and the GOP would win when ALL the polling was against them, so the least the Dems can do is get their hair tussled a bit by staging a filibuster, even if McConnell sends it down in a nuclear blast.

You have to be willing to stand and fight for something, don’t you?

To be blunt, what’s the use of Congressional Democrats that won’t fight an illegitimate and evil President over a stolen SCOTUS seat?

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:55:05pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:56:07pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy really took Gorsuch to the legal woodshed, especially when he started mansplaining the law to her.

Bad move on his part.

I really don’t know all that much about her, but I’m not really surprised. When you think about our reputation as a liberal haven, our Democrats don’t feel the need to mess around with moderate bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:57:14pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

IMO it is essential for the Democrats to filibuster the Gorsuch nomination for the reasons you give above.

Also, the Democrats get absolutely NOTHING for going along with the Gorsuch nomination.

There simply is no “powder” for the Democrats to keep dry.The filibuster is gone for everything as soon as the Republicans want to end it. So force their hand. Maximum resistance to Trump is the least we should expect from Congressional Democrats.

So, let me see if I understand McConnell’s position - Dem’s shouldn’t use the filibuster, because if they do he’ll be forced to go nuclear and destroy the filibuster, so it won’t be available in the future. But what’s the point of a procedural weapon you can’t ever use, because your opponent will simply overrule it and destroy it?

A weapon one can’t use, because using it will not only not work but also destroy the weapon itself is no weapon at all.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:58:32pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy really took Gorsuch to the legal woodshed, especially when he started mansplaining the law to her.

Bad move on his part.

No television here, and limited capacity to live stream/

What did he say and how did she respond (in twenty words or less /s)?

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:58:46pm

re: #70 Anymouse

Wait until they find out the unfair advantage she has in using government lawyers to defend her, for free.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:59:01pm

15 seconds of pow-wow.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:00:09pm

re: #70 Anymouse

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Giving her a totally unprecedented White House office, phone, security clearance and sitting her down in official meeting with foreign leaders will all undermine her legal defense.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:00:16pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

So, let me see if I understand McConnell’s position - Dem’s shouldn’t use the filibuster, because if they do he’ll be forced to go nuclear and destroy the filibuster, so it won’t be available in the future. But what’s the point of a procedural weapon you can’t ever use, because your opponent will simply overrule it and destroy it?

A weapon one can’t use, because using it will not only not work but also destroy the weapon itself is no weapon at all.

Expressed more simply, McConnell wants the Democrats to be too timid to use the filibuster, thereby making it a weapon only Republicans get to use.

Very convenient.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:00:19pm

re: #73 Anymouse

No television here, and limited capacity to live stream/

What did he say and how did she respond (in twenty words or less /s)?

can’t do it in 20 words or less. Look to twitter for the highlights (I posted some of them downstairs while it was happening).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:00:56pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

15 seconds of pow-wow.

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Trump’s BIA will provide the blankets.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:02:07pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:02:16pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Trump’s BIA will provide the blankets.

In collaboration with the CDC to taint the blankets with smallpox.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:03:35pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Expressed more simply, McConnell wants the Democrats to be too timid to use the filibuster, thereby making it a weapon only Republicans get to use.

Very convenient.

Exactly. Make them destroy it themselves.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:04:33pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly. Make them destroy it themselves.

The number of supposedly liberal talking heads who don’t get this very basic point is discouraging.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:05:12pm

re: #63 Anymouse

Ok, I’ll throw in Adrian Smith (R-Tumbleweeds). He’s far less crazy than Michele Bachmann.

I am perfectly wiling to trade ANY of your Senators for Ted Cruz. Any of them. Just ask and he’s yours. I’ll find a way to tie him up and ship him out.

I may end up in jail on kidnapping charges, but hey, sometimes you gotta just do the right thing.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:05:51pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s long past time for the Dems to call McConnell’s hand. For eight years he’s gotten away with this shit at no cost to himself. That time is over (or better be).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:08:19pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

The number of supposedly liberal talking heads who don’t get this very basic point is discouraging.

They’re still playing by the old rules. The GOP decided back when they made Gingrich Speaker, that the old rules don’t apply. The only rule they follow now is ‘Whatever works to our advantage”. And that’s how their base wants it.

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(alpuz)  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:10:09pm

Anybody want a Ron Johnson? I think I got duplicates this last election. I’ll throw in Glenn Grothman for absolutely nothing. Going once… going twice.. go

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:10:24pm

Trump National Golf Club offers $10,000 reward after green at Rancho Palos Verdes is vandalized

Get the money up front or they’ll renegotiate it down to a box of Trump golf balls.

latimes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:10:44pm

I got Rand Paul and the Turtle.

blech…

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:12:33pm

re: #84 BlueGrl21

I am perfectly wiling to trade ANY of your Senators for Ted Cruz. Any of them. Just ask and he’s yours. I’ll find a way to tie him up and ship him out.

I may end up in jail on kidnapping charges, but hey, sometimes you gotta just do the right thing.

You ship him here and we’ll forward him to Alberta. Sorry Canada, you birthed this baby, you have to carry it to full term.

That and he should fit right in with the Wildrose Party anyway.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:13:53pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:15:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:16:05pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got Rand Paul and the Turtle.

blech…

and neither of them are native Kentuckians.

double blech…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:16:47pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF AUTHORITY?!?!

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freetoken  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:17:08pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

I wonder what it’ll take for Texans to finally realize their Republican overlords are not their friends?

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:17:15pm

re: #35 Skip Intro

Ok, can we let this one go now? I think a dozen times is enough.

And yeah, I’m getting crankier by the minute these days. I may have to take a time out, like klys and some others have.

I’m in a let it slide mode.

I try to not let anything bother me because there is real stuff that bothers me more, like all these hearings and Trump in general.

It’s not like having a comment being screamed at me by someone present. Or someone tapping me on the shoulder wanting to show me the same tweet others have shown me three times already.

I miss klys because I can’t talk sportspuck with her. If she would be around and able to ignore what upsets her, I and others could still comment with her about other stuffs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:19:39pm

Guess who learned a new fact today!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:21:06pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Guess who learned a new fact today!

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O_o

If only there were some kind of branding the GOP could adopt. Something like “Party of Lincoln”, for example.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:21:25pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Guess who learned a new fact today!

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and he learned only last night that Lincoln was born in Kentucky!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:22:09pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

BTW, you KNOW who he means when he says “a lot of people don’t know”, right?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:23:14pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

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The difference and Taranto fucking knows it is Franken actually acts like a Senator. He’s never made a mockery out of his job the way Trump has. I was skeptical when Franken first ran for office 9 years ago but he’s a much better Senator than Trump is President for the simple reason that he actually takes his job seriously.

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William Lewis  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:24:07pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

(He flew MEDEVAC in Viet Nam—he gets to be a little weird.)

He earned the privilege then.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:24:42pm

Trump has more in common with George Lincoln Rockwell than Abraham Lincoln. Sorry Donald but just because you just learned Abe was a Republican doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:25:29pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Guess who learned a new fact today!

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Come on, you’re just jerking our chain now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:27:15pm

Tillis takes over for Grassley (who has to be in bed by 9 pm)

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William Lewis  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:27:25pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the same problem with the “fleet in being” fantasy of Imperial Germany. Either a fleet is strong enough to defeat the enemy one way of the other or it is a waste of resources. In the end, the Grand Fleet meant that the High Seas Fleet was meaningless.

If the Democrats aren’t willing to force even a metaphorical Jutland, the filibuster is meaningless.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:27:40pm

To be fair, NONE OF IT means anything - “Patient centered care”, “focus on the individual” “market-based solutions” - they’re all gobbledygook meant to obfuscate, to hide that the whole point of the bill is to fellate the rich while fucking everyone who isn’t, and try to expunge The Black Guy from history.

I know that the phrase “what a stupid person thinks a smart person sounds like” is really the perfect description of Noot, but it applies equally well to ‘Policy Wonk’ Paul Ryan.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:28:57pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

I think it means the patient is the target.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:29:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:29:40pm

re: #108 Skip Intro

I think it means the patient’s bank account is the target.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:30:16pm

I think something needs to be done. Gorsuch may be qualified for the position but the fact of the matter is the GOP doesn’t deserve to get away with how they treated Garland. And as such, it’s only right for me that Gorsuch receive the same treatment though he’s already faring better than Garland ever did since he’s already gotten his hearing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:30:59pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m not used to having a Senator Kennedy who isn’t one of the good guys.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:31:46pm

re: #88 Skip Intro

Trump National Golf Club offers $10,000 reward after green at Rancho Palos Verdes is vandalized

Get the money up front or they’ll renegotiate it down to a box of Trump golf balls.

latimes.com

Link didn’t work for me - went to front page

Here’s another
latimes.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:34:09pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

James Taranto ✔ @jamestaranto
Walked past the TV and saw this guy questioning Judge Gorsuch. But we’re supposed to think it’s crazy Trump is president.
5:39 PM - 21 Mar 2017
257 257 Retweets 410 410 likes

Is someone a little tweaked by Al Franken being a better TV personality, joke teller and yes, politician too?

I bet Al could be a better developer too. Surely I bet many would vote for him as President and he could kick Trump’s ass doing the job.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:35:03pm

Here’s the thing: To my mind, the Gorsuch nomination is a foregone conclusion. This is exactly the result the Republicans were dreaming of when they killed the Garland nomination, ostensibly because “the new President should decide, not some lame duck”. They will move heaven and earth to make sure this happens, because… wait for it… for Republicans, this is what the election was about. Fuck Donald Trump right in his toupee’d bum; the only thing most Republicans voted for was to ensure Justice Scalia was replaced with another conservative jackwagon. After this nomination goes through, hell, the Republicans may go ahead and initiate impeachment hearings. They got what they wanted out of him.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:35:13pm

Has James Taranto been getting stupider and stupider lately, or was he always like this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:36:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:37:05pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Has James Taranto been getting stupider and stupider lately, or was he always like this?

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From the little I’ve seen of him over the years, I’d say always. It’s such a moronic false equivalency since A) Franken didn’t go straight to the Presidency without any experience and B) Franken obviously takes his job seriously. It’s a pathetic bullshit false equivalency from the people who whine about celebrities talking about politics but who loved Reagan. And yes I realize Reagan was governor before President.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:37:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:38:09pm

re: #115 thedopefishlives

Here’s the thing: To my mind, the Gorsuch nomination is a foregone conclusion. This is exactly the result the Republicans were dreaming of when they killed the Garland nomination, ostensibly because “the new President should decide, not some lame duck”. They will move heaven and earth to make sure this happens, because… wait for it… for Republicans, this is what the election was about. Fuck Donald Trump right in his toupee’d bum; the only thing most Republicans voted for was to ensure Justice Scalia was replaced with another conservative jackwagon. After this nomination goes through, hell, the Republicans may go ahead and initiate impeachment hearings. They got what they wanted out of him.

Yep and they got the Scalia clone they wanted in Gorsuch.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:38:33pm

I have to admit I was pretty skeptical Al Franken would make a decent senator when I first heard about him getting into politics. But doggone it, he really is smart enough. Not to mention tenacious, well-informed, and ethical.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:38:38pm

re: #119 Ace Rothstein

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That was different because he made them feel better about being sexually repressed bigoted assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:39:02pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Guess who learned a new fact today!

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Here’s that moment— Trump: “Most people don’t even know” Lincoln was a Republican, says PACs should take out an ad to promote that.

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freetoken  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:39:05pm

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:39:26pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Well, the Democrats can certainly get Gorsuch’s record on the record.

They could also make the argument and throw it in Mitch McConnell’s face that while there is an investigation into Russia subverting our elections we should not be confirming Supreme Court justices nominated by that president.

That said, I don’t know the best way forward with this.

I look at all of this as a preseason run-up to the next big game elections. It is time for the Democrats to hold Republican accountable for everything and forget none of it and then use it later.

Yes…politics. You can hate it, but you can’t let the other side use it on you.

Democrats always get beat up by the elephant never forgetting party. We need to not forget too. And we need to use all of this in a little over a year and surely in 2020.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:39:31pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Yep and they got the Scalia clone they wanted in Gorsuch.

They will gladly burn whatever goodwill they have left with America to make sure this nomination succeeds. After that, they couldn’t give less of a fuck. I guarantee it. Fishfolk explicitly said they held their nose and voted Drumpf specifically because of Scalia. I have zero doubt that this is one of the major reasons Republicans have tolerated his shit for so long.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:39:34pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was pretty skeptical Al Franken would make a decent Senator when I first heard about him getting into politics. But doggone it, he really is smart enough. Not to mention tenacious, well-informed, and ethical.

Yeah I was too. In fact, he’s better than many seasoned political veterans.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:40:24pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was pretty skeptical Al Franken would make a decent Senator when I first heard about him getting into politics. But doggone it, he really is smart enough. Not to mention tenacious, well-informed, and ethical.

That makes two of us, but as I mentioned, he wasted no time in proving he knows what he’s about. I am pleasantly surprised, and happy to be represented by him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:40:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:41:09pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

They will gladly burn whatever goodwill they have left with America to make sure this nomination succeeds. After that, they couldn’t give less of a fuck. I guarantee it. Fishfolk explicitly said they held their nose and voted Drumpf specifically because of Scalia. I have zero doubt that this is one of the major reasons Republicans have tolerated his shit for so long.

Party and ideology above country with those assholes as you know. A certain former lizard is getting exactly what he wanted when the GOP held Garland’s nomination hostage and Trump gave the GOP Senate a NR and Heritage Foundation approved asshole. Gorsuch is qualified for the position but after 31 years of Scalia on the court, we don’t need another Scalia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:42:36pm

Son of a bitch. He thinks it’s 1952, and the Interstate Highway System hasn’t been built yet.

I think we probably have about all the roads we actually need. The roads themselves, however need new bridges and tunnels, more lanes, and in some cases, just fucking FIXED! I was taking 101 to work the other day, and the #3 lane for about a mile had a gazillion 1” deep, 12” diameter potholes. And it was repaved within the last 10 years.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:43:30pm

re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White

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Son of a bitch. He thinks it’s 1952, and the Interstate Highway System hasn’t been built yet.

I think we probably have about all the roads we actually need. The roads themselves, however need new bridges and tunnels, more lanes, and in some cases, just fucking FIXED! I was taking 101 to work the other day, and the #3 lane for about a mile had a gazillion 1” deep, 12” diameter potholes. And it was repaved within the last 10 years.

The US has the largest network of limited-access freeways in the world, at a few ticks shy of 48,000 miles. Number two is India, at approximately 47,000 miles. Courtesy of Wikipedia.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:44:46pm

re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White

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Son of a bitch. He thinks it’s 1952, and the Interstate Highway System hasn’t been built yet.

I think we probably have about all the roads we actually need. The roads themselves, however need new bridges and tunnels, more lanes, and in some cases, just fucking FIXED! I was taking 101 to work the other day, and the #3 lane for about a mile had a gazillion 1” deep, 12” diameter potholes. And it was repaved within the last 10 years.

Yeah our country is more connected than ever. The roads, bridges, etc need repair. If I were a skeptical man and I am, I’d see this as a way for Trump to make more money for himself and his businesses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:44:56pm

1 horse-sized duck or 50 duck-sized horses?

1 horse-sized duck is a fucking Anatotitan (Google it)

I’ll take the 50 duck-sized horses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:46:11pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:46:47pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

O_o

If only there were some kind of branding the GOP could adopt. Something like “Party of Lincoln”, for example.

I think the GOP is in the process of dropping that bit of branding. After all, the GOP is full of confederates, and confederates really hate Lincoln.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:48:00pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

I think the GOP is in the process of dropping that bit of branding. After all, the GOP is full of confederates, and confederates really hate Lincoln.

And their President likes Jackson, anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:48:01pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

I think the GOP is in the process of dropping that bit of branding. After all, the GOP is full of confederates, and confederates really hate Lincoln.

From what I understand, they’ve started replacing the traditional Lincoln Dinners with Reagan Dinners since Reagan for obvious reasons is far more popular with the GOP than Lincoln is.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:48:41pm

You get none of my sympathy until you prove to the world that you voted straight Democratic in 2018.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:48:42pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Tillis is spending his allotted time at this hearing on the advanced ball-washing techniques. Good to know.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:49:14pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got Rand Paul and the Turtle.

blech…

I’ve got Sherrod Brown and an empty suit.

Brown’s a good ol’ style liberal…the suit needs cleaning.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:50:01pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was pretty skeptical Al Franken would make a decent senator when I first heard about him getting into politics. But doggone it, he really is smart enough. Not to mention tenacious, well-informed, and ethical.

And dog-gone it, people like him…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:50:44pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

I’ve got Sherrod Brown and an empty suit.

Brown’s a good ol’ style liberal…the suit needs cleaning.

Hey, all y’all are more than welcome to move up here and get represented by senators with real balls. Our state representation you could take or leave, but no place is perfect.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:51:38pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Is someone a little tweaked by Al Franken being a better TV personality, joke teller and yes, politician too?

I bet Al could be a better developer too. Surely I bet many would vote for him as President and he could kick Trump’s ass doing the job.

And Al Franken can also kick Gene Simmon’s ass at racquetball (this story is really funny).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:51:44pm

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:52:30pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

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You get none of my sympathy until you prove to the world that you voted straight Democratic in 2018.

I feel bad that he lost his son but goddamnit we did try warning people like him and he didn’t want to listen.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:53:27pm

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Hey, all y’all are more than welcome to move up here and get represented by senators with real balls. Our state representation you could take or leave, but no place is perfect.

At least you don’t have Bachmann anymore though. Minnesota is nice but I couldn’t live there. Your winters are too cold for me.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:54:20pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

I think Gorsuch is a total RWNJ who is capable of a veneer of civilization.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:54:25pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

I was turned off the minute I read he not only is ideologically like Scalia but personality wise like him too. I know RBG was a great personal friend of Scalia’s but the Scalia I saw on TV and read through his opinions was a pompous prick.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:54:48pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

I think Gorsuch is a total RWNJ who is capable of a veneer of civilization.

Now you know why NR recommended him. That’s their brand in a nutshell.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:55:01pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

At least you don’t have Bachmann anymore though. Minnesota is nice but I couldn’t live there. Your winters are too cold for me.

I’m one of the crazy ones that actually enjoys the cold and the snow. I could never live in a place without seasons. But I understand it isn’t for everybody. How about we clone Senators Franken and Klobuchar and just replace everybody else’s senators with the clones? Sounds like a win to me!

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:55:32pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was pretty skeptical Al Franken would make a decent senator when I first heard about him getting into politics. But doggone it, he really is smart enough. Not to mention tenacious, well-informed, and ethical.

Franken adored Paul Wellstone. He’s always been committed.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:55:55pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

Nothing but the filibustered will do. Besides, Yam is already in campaign mode for 2020. You know what that means.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:56:02pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

Mounted a Class III hitch on Wife’s mommyvan, and I don’t like him either.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:56:04pm

re: #106 William Lewis

It’s the same problem with the “fleet in being” fantasy of Imperial Germany. Either a fleet is strong enough to defeat the enemy one way of the other or it is a waste of resources. In the end, the Grand Fleet meant that the High Seas Fleet was meaningless.

If the Democrats aren’t willing to force even a metaphorical Jutland, the filibuster is meaningless.

A truism we used to kick around in the Navy was the world’s second-best Navy is the world’s most expensive hobby.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:56:27pm

re: #151 thedopefishlives

I’m one of the crazy ones that actually enjoys the cold and the snow. I could never live in a place without seasons. But I understand it isn’t for everybody. How about we clone Senators Franken and Klobuchar and just replace everybody else’s senators with the clones? Sounds like a win to me!

I’m actually pretty happy with Warner and Kaine but Franken and Klobuchar are great. But yeah I’m the total opposite. I don’t mind the snow but I just do not like the cold at all. If it’s going to be cold, at least give me a lot of snow I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:56:37pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:56:41pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

ftfy

A friend and I have discussed it seems the medical services industry in this country has a job to wipe out everyone’s entire estate. They want more than your pocketbook/wallet. They want everything.

And the rich worry about an estate tax.

It’s no problem for the working class. /

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:57:49pm

re: #152 stpaulbear

Franken adored Paul Wellstone. He’s always been committed.

He always struck me having read his and Michael Moore’s books being far more intelligent than Moore was and is. Al is a Harvard grad after all. And despite the fact that the right loves to use him as a punching bag, he’s had a lot of conservative personal friends over the years too.

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Varek Raith  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:58:54pm

Horses.
Ducks.

What?

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(alpuz)  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:59:28pm

Franken is the real deal. Straight shooter all the way. I’ve always liked him.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:00:16pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

A friend and I have discussed it seems the medical services industry in this country has a job to wipe out everyone’s entire estate. They want more than your pocketbook/wallet. They want everything.

And the rich worry about an estate tax.

It’s no problem for the working class. /

That why Republicans adore those stupid Health Savings Accounts. That’s basically all money that is earmarked for eventual spending on health care, where the plutocrats in that industry will hoover up all the profits.

“Gee everyone, lets all have saving accounts that will eventually make executives of medical conglomerates even more obscenely wealthy than they currently are!”

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steve_davis  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

re: #4 freetoken

“suspends” - doesn’t that means he comes back at some time?

unless he’s been “suspended indefinitely.” that means he’s been hired by cnn as a wolf fluffer.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:01:14pm

I always liked Al the man. He’s a good writer. Funny but also introspective and fair. The one thing that struck me when he wrote about the Reagan won the Cold War myth in Lying Liars is that he was giving credit to every President during the Cold War including Nixon who did their part to end it.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:03:06pm

re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White

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Son of a bitch. He thinks it’s 1952, and the Interstate Highway System hasn’t been built yet.

I think we probably have about all the roads we actually need. The roads themselves, however need new bridges and tunnels, more lanes, and in some cases, just fucking FIXED! I was taking 101 to work the other day, and the #3 lane for about a mile had a gazillion 1” deep, 12” diameter potholes. And it was repaved within the last 10 years.

Nebraska is resurfacing I-80 and repairing viaducts between Sidney and the Wyoming state line, but that has to do with some of the stimulus money thrown our way by the Obama Administration and a lot of money thrown to fix it by the state legislature.

What paved roads we have on this side of the state are actually in pretty good condition (all nine of them or so /s)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:03:24pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Been watching the hearing all day and I do not like Neil Gorsuch.

the difference between Dems asking serious questions and GOP just asking joke questions (Hitchhikers Guide…really Cruz???)

good fucking grief…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:04:07pm

I’ve come to like Olbermann more too. I think he still has an arrogant streak but it’s not as bad as Maher’s and I think Keith is far more intelligent too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:04:27pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

the difference between Dems asking serious questions and GOP just asking joke questions (Hitchhikers Guide…really Cruz???)

good fucking grief…

Cruz is just pathetic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:05:53pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

the difference between Dems asking serious questions and GOP just asking joke questions (Hitchhikers Guide…really Cruz???)

good fucking grief…

And Ben Sasse’s “SCOTUS bladder of steel” joke was beyond the pale.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:07:18pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Ben Sasse’s “SCOTUS bladder of steel” joke was beyond the pale.

LOLWUT did my Senator say? What the hell does that mean?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:07:50pm

re: #170 Anymouse

LOLWUT did my Senator say? What the hell does that mean?

usatoday.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:08:46pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

usatoday.com

just google Sasse SCOTUS bladder…there is sooo much there to embarrass you.

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Varek Raith  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:08:55pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

usatoday.com

-_-

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:12:11pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

just google Sasse SCOTUS bladder…there is sooo much there to embarrass you.

SMH. Gaaa. I imagine Melissa Sasse isn’t real happy about her hub dragging her into this “my wife wanted to know” - really Ben?

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Varek Raith  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:13:45pm

re: #174 Anymouse

SMH. Gaaa. I imagine Melissa Sasse isn’t real happy about her hub dragging her into this “my wife wanted to know” - really Ben?

Ruhroh.

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retired cynic  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:14:33pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

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You get none of my sympathy until you prove to the world that you voted straight Democratic in 2018.

It’s another one of those conservatives who can’t see the bear until it devours them. As long as it is devouring someone else, that’s ok.

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Danack  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:15:37pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

You get none of my sympathy until you prove to the world that you voted straight Democratic in 2018.

That probably needs to be an advert and protest signs.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:16:06pm

re: #176 retired cynic

It’s another one of those conservatives who can’t see the bear until it devours them. As long as it is devouring someone else, that’s ok.

Yeah that’s why it’s hard for me to feel so sympathetic. I mean don’t get me wrong. I feel bad that he lost his son but it really seems to me yeah so many conservatives can’t see it until it hits close to home.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:13:53pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 24, 2017 • 9:35:31pm

Charles Johnson,

Sounds like even “Fox News” has standards, even if they are incredibly low!


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