And Now, Peter Gabriel’s “Sledgehammer,” Done in Vintage ’50s Rhythm & Blues Style

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557 comments

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freetoken  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:31:05pm

While I’m tempted to use Time Machine to make a new system drive for my old iMac, from the current El Capitan boot disk… I’m thinking I should try a new OS install to begin with followed by Migration Assistant.

If that approach fails I can always reformat and then try again with the Time Machine restore method.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:32:39pm

re: #1 freetoken

While I’m tempted to use Time Machine to make a new system drive for my old iMac, from the current El Capitan boot disk… I’m thinking I should try a new OS install to begin with followed by Migration Assistant.

If that approach fails I can always reformat and then try again with the Time Machine restore method.

Let us know how it works out. I’m not a big Mac person, so I’d be interested to know for personal curiosity.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:33:10pm

re: #1 freetoken

While I’m tempted to use Time Machine to make a new system drive for my old iMac, from the current El Capitan boot disk… I’m thinking I should try a new OS install to begin with followed by Migration Assistant.

If that approach fails I can always reformat and then try again with the Time Machine restore method.

New install and Migration Assistant, definitely. The Time Machine way will probably work, but it’s a much better idea to start from scratch with a clean installation.

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freetoken  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:35:38pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Thanks.

The new drive is a bit bigger, too, so I’ll have room for about a 200GB third partition. I’m tempted in setting it aside for a Windoze system.

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freetoken  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:47:52pm

I guess I’ve put the cart before the horse… first thing I have to do is figure out whether to use the LaCie software to re-partition this drive, or use Disk Utility. Apparently the latter means I need to erase the current single partition…

The older Disk Utility versions were simpler to understand, I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:48:56pm

this is really pathetic:

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:49:23pm

That was in interesting rendering of the Peter Gabriel song.

I would like to see this group in concert (sadly, we don’t get any concerts around here).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:50:50pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

really, WHAT trump rallies today?
all I saw was that sad pizzagate thing in the park in DC today.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:55:09pm

I haven’t eaten out in around 9-10 years, but I can imagine it must be a rather different experience now.

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Franklin  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:56:12pm

Heyoooo!!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:56:39pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is really pathetic:

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It really is.

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Franklin  Mar 25, 2017 • 4:59:25pm

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:00:14pm

re: #12 Franklin

lol. He should be that helpful.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:02:36pm

re: #12 Franklin

On a deeper level of imagery…both produce hot air that actually just splatters you with microscopic shit.

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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:02:52pm
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JordanRules  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:03:48pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nobody likes you enough to work at anything on your behalf! See: worse bill evah crafted, inauguration size
If you go down though, the parties will be legendary!

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:06:25pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:19:09pm
When you don’t want to go back home

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:20:41pm
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allegro  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:22:17pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

I haven’t eaten out in around 9-10 years, but I can imagine it must be a rather different experience now.

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Speaking of eating out… (I just knew there would be an OT segue, thanks!)…

Had such a fun day. A friend and I decided to go road trip with our dogs, aka The Boys, to see the bluebonnets and other wildflowers around Brenham, TX. Brenham is famous for them along with being the listeria Blue Bell ice cream capital. The wildflowers did not disappoint - stunning fields of color in the most beautiful gently rolling hill settings.

Did some advance poking about and targeted a doggie-friendly Tapas restaurant downtown Brenham (which consists of one square block around the courthouse - an entirely charming square block). We haven’t done that before with The Boys so I figured leaving town to try it first was a really good plan. Koky (friend’s dog) did great, surprising the both of us since Koky is… energetic. My boy, not so much since he wanted to bark at everyone. Once I got him planted on the chair next to me and food was involved though, he did great. I think we might even be welcome to go back to that restaurant again. :D Very pleased because the food was excellent and I would definitely do a repeat of the lovely day.

After lunch we went to a nice dog park to let The Boys make some new friends there before heading home on a different route to see more wildflowers. Weather was perfection!

Texas leadership may suck really bad but the state is one of the most beautiful anywhere in the world. Today was just another example of why it has been my home for over 40 years and I am loathe to leave it.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:26:41pm
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A Cranky One  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:26:44pm

Reposting from a dead thread:

Interesting day today. I have a co-worker who’s an immigrant from Ethiopia. Went over to his house a few weeks ago to deal with some home issues he’s been struggling with. Ended up doing a fair amount of work while teaching him some basics about home repair. Replaced a garbage disposal that was corroded and leaking badly, fixed the kitchen faucet, re-glued some countertop laminate that was peeling, replaced a faulty sump pump and battery backup sump pump because his basement had recently flooded after both pumps failed, re-lit the pilot on his water heater that went out when the basement flooded and put in a new doorbell chime, transformer and the outside bell button as well as a few other miscellaneous repairs.

I do this type of stuff for folks all the time and am constantly annoyed and angry when I see what some “professionals” charge for poor quality, often improperly done work. Take the sump pumps for example. Neither the standard pump or the battery backup pump had check valves; a obvious code violation. What got me over to the house in the first place was being told that the idiots who did the original installation wanted $1400 to replace the equipment they installed improperly in the first place. So they not only did shoddy work but vastly overcharged for doing it. Grrrr….

I’m frankly astounded at some of the things I find. Went over to help my daughter-in-law’s dad with his house, which had no electricity in half the house. Her mom was trying to get home from a major illness and being in rehab, but the rehab folks refused to let her go home until the power issue was resolved (no power in the bedrooms or back bathrooms). Understandable, because she could be hurt trying to negotiate her way in the dark. I discovered the problem: the house had aluminum wiring and the idiots who did the wiring attached the wire to terminals clearly marked “CU ONLY”. Removed an outlet that was actually sparking and smoking and if it hadn’t been replaced would have started a fire. Quick trip to the store for aluminum rated outlets and $40 later, the house was safe and functional. How any real electrician could do this or worse, how any inspector would ignore it is perplexing.

Anyway, went over today and was treated to an authentic Ethiopian meal. Spicy and quite good. And then the traditional coffee, which involved actually cooking the coffee beans in a pan prior to brewing a thick, espresso like brew. Yum. They brought out the pan with the coffee beans during the heating, explaining that part of the ritual is to enjoy the fragrance during that part of the preparation.

We did end up discussing the current political situation a bit over coffee. No surprise that they have apprehension about the situation and some fear. I think it meant a lot to them to be treated with respect and welcome and care. And it let them know that not all old cranky white guys are bigots.

Although I’m an extreme introvert, it was a lovely afternoon with a beautiful family. Both the boys (9 and 11) gave me big hugs as I was leaving, as did the wife. Makes me incredibly sad that so many people would see them as enemies and want them gone

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:28:45pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

That is a wonderful story. Good on you for doing that. If I were more confident in my home repair skills, I might do something like that. My primary amateur forte is in mechanics, but I know enough to be dangerous with home maintenance.

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allegro  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:30:48pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

There are not enough updings. Thank you for sharing.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:31:34pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

Your story cheered me up. Thanks for sharing.

Now I’m hungry for Ethiopian, though, and given where I live, that means figuring out how to make it myself damn self.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:32:18pm

re: #25 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Your story cheered me up. Thanks for sharing.

Now I’m hungry for Ethiopian, though, and given where I live, that means figuring out how to make it myself damn self.

Great part about the wild north country: We are culturally diverse enough to get anything we want. I had Ethiopian food delivered to my office once, and then I brought it home for dinner to the family.

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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:37:29pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

Thanks for sharing. I would shake your hand if I could.

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A Cranky One  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:39:32pm

Thanks for the kind words, folks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:39:47pm
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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:41:33pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:41:41pm

re: #26 thedopefishlives

I complain, but we’re doing pretty good in west KY.

But Ethiopian has not made it here. Need to make a trip to Louisville. I think there’s even a store where you can by ingredients for home cooking.

The other thing is I want an Ethiopian/Somali cookbook that has decent pictures and explanations. I’ve looked through what’s available, and they’re a bit unclear.

Sadly, it’s not being updated, but this site made me interested in Somali food, while this one got me interested in Ethiopian.

Funny thing is, you can see the relationship with food from, say, Oman (and maybe Yemen? I know like two whole Yemen recipes) and how the two are tied by trade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:42:00pm
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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:43:47pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

See the urns? Those are for the ashes of their souls. Tight shots are for tiny crowds. HUNDREDS…..

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:45:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:49:28pm
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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:49:59pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another massive turnout…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:50:12pm

re: #31 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I complain, but we’re doing pretty good in west KY.

But Ethiopian has not made it here. Need to make a trip to Louisville. I think there’s even a store where you can by ingredients for home cooking.

The other thing is I want an Ethiopian/Somali cookbook that has decent pictures and explanations. I’ve looked through what’s available, and they’re a bit unclear.

Sadly, it’s not being updated, but this site made me interested in Somali food, while this one got me interested in Ethiopian.

Funny thing is, you can see the relationship with food from, say, Oman (and maybe Yemen? I know like two whole Yemen recipes) and how the two are tied by trade.

I think the Twin Cities would be a lot less diverse, culinarily speaking, if it weren’t for the large Hmong and Somali refugee population. Aside from the unique background those two groups bring, it would be mostly the Indian/Chinese/European angles you see everywhere else.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:51:53pm

re: #37 thedopefishlives

We’re pretty “standard,” but given the size of the community, I’d still say we’re doing good.

Sadly, more adventurous options tend to not last long.

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Kragar  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:52:23pm
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EmmaAnne  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:53:17pm

I’m just going to post this again to justify my five minutes of work adding a caption.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:53:29pm

re: #38 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

We’re pretty “standard,” but given the size of the community, I’d still say we’re doing good.

Sadly, more adventurous options tend to not last long.

Speaking of adventurous, there’s a Brazilian steakhouse that I absolutely must try downtown sometime. Hmm… perhaps I should contrive a date night with Mrs. Fish when fishfolk are in town next weekend.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:53:42pm

The more things change:

Republican campaign billboard with slogan “Make Our Homes and Streets Safe!”

This is a photo by Pittsburgh Courier photographer “Teenie” Harris, circa 1949. The Courier was the nationally-important Pittsburgh AA paper. We got to see a show of his PGH jazz legends at the Carnegie Museum of Art this month. Might do a page on him.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:55:10pm
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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:55:42pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

“SHOOT SOMEBODY, ANYBODY.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:56:54pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

At least he can keep health coverage.

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TedStriker  Mar 25, 2017 • 5:57:46pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

Reposting from a dead thread:

Interesting day today. I have a co-worker who’s an immigrant from Ethiopia. Went over to his house a few weeks ago to deal with some home issues he’s been struggling with. Ended up doing a fair amount of work while teaching him some basics about home repair. Replaced a garbage disposal that was corroded and leaking badly, fixed the kitchen faucet, re-glued some countertop laminate that was peeling, replaced a faulty sump pump and battery backup sump pump because his basement had recently flooded after both pumps failed, re-lit the pilot on his water heater that went out when the basement flooded and put in a new doorbell chime, transformer and the outside bell button as well as a few other miscellaneous repairs.

I do this type of stuff for folks all the time and am constantly annoyed and angry when I see what some “professionals” charge for poor quality, often improperly done work. Take the sump pumps for example. Neither the standard pump or the battery backup pump had check valves; a obvious code violation. What got me over to the house in the first place was being told that the idiots who did the original installation wanted $1400 to replace the equipment they installed improperly in the first place. So they not only did shoddy work but vastly overcharged for doing it. Grrrr….

I’m frankly astounded at some of the things I find. Went over to help my daughter-in-law’s dad with his house, which had no electricity in half the house. Her mom was trying to get home from a major illness and being in rehab, but the rehab folks refused to let her go home until the power issue was resolved (no power in the bedrooms or back bathrooms). Understandable, because she could be hurt trying to negotiate her way in the dark. I discovered the problem: the house had aluminum wiring and the idiots who did the wiring attached the wire to terminals clearly marked “CU ONLY”. Removed an outlet that was actually sparking and smoking and if it hadn’t been replaced would have started a fire. Quick trip to the store for aluminum rated outlets and $40 later, the house was safe and functional. How any real electrician could do this or worse, how any inspector would ignore it is perplexing.

Anyway, went over today and was treated to an authentic Ethiopian meal. Spicy and quite good. And then the traditional coffee, which involved actually cooking the coffee beans in a pan prior to brewing a thick, espresso like brew. Yum. They brought out the pan with the coffee beans during the heating, explaining that part of the ritual is to enjoy the fragrance during that part of the preparation.

We did end up discussing the current political situation a bit over coffee. No surprise that they have apprehension about the situation and some fear. I think it meant a lot to them to be treated with respect and welcome and care. And it let them know that not all old cranky white guys are bigots.

Although I’m an extreme introvert, it was a lovely afternoon with a beautiful family. Both the boys (9 and 11) gave me big hugs as I was leaving, as did the wife. Makes me incredibly sad that so many people would see them as enemies and want them gone

Ya did good.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:00:00pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

And who (or what) would replace him? For all that Reince Priebus seems to do at the White House they could just as well sub him out for a coatrack.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:00:22pm

re: #22 A Cranky One

You may be cranky, but you’re a good friend to people in need. Big ups to you.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:01:09pm

re: #47 Jay C

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And who (or what) would replace him? For all that Reince Priebus seems to do at the White House they could just as well sub him out for a coatrack.

Enter one of the Drumpf boys.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:01:25pm

A friendly twitter discussion

The only thing I retract is my spelling of ally.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:02:21pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:02:24pm

Trump supporters in Tennessee. We’re doomed.

Iframe

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TedStriker  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:03:53pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Trump supporters in Tennessee. We’re doomed.

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You don’t have to tell me, I live here in one of the few big blue spots in the state.

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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:04:04pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

The more things change:

Republican campaign billboard with slogan “Make Our Homes and Streets Safe!”

[Embedded content]

This is a photo by Pittsburgh Courier photographer “Teenie” Williams, circa 1949. The Courier was the nationally-important Pittsburgh AA paper. We got to see a show of his PGH jazz legends at the Carnegie Museum of Art this month. Might do a page on him.

Gotta ask. What kind of doll is the little girl holding? Let’s say my interest is piqued!

Any one want to offer a guess.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:05:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:06:20pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:08:43pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:09:24pm

re: #57 Anymouse

Now that makes ya go hmmmm…………..

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:09:28pm

re: #57 Anymouse

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I wonder why that i$$$$$.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:10:21pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

The more things change:

Republican campaign billboard with slogan “Make Our Homes and Streets Safe!”

[Embedded content]

This is a photo by Pittsburgh Courier photographer “Teenie” Williams, circa 1949. The Courier was the nationally-important Pittsburgh AA paper. We got to see a show of his PGH jazz legends at the Carnegie Museum of Art this month. Might do a page on him.

Didn’t know Republicans were jerks way back then. I thought they went bad after the Civil Rights Movement forced them to play nice with the Blacks.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:11:08pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:13:13pm

re: #47 Jay C

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And who (or what) would replace him? For all that Reince Priebus seems to do at the White House they could just as well sub him out for a coatrack.

Why is Reince responsible for the AHCA failure? Interesting.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:13:19pm
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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:13:39pm

re: #60 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t know Republicans were jerks way back then. I thought they went bad after the Civil Rights Movement forced them to play nice with the Blacks.

They turned back to the Whig lust for money about when Grant left office and they’ve been going downhill ever since. The real anti-Americanism didn’t start though till they got horrified by FDR actually, GASP! HELPING? Poor People?

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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:13:58pm

My 4th child.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:14:26pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Why is Reince responsible for the AHCA failure? Interesting.

He’s just the scapegoat since President Bannon has wanted rid of him since day one.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:15:20pm

.@60Minutes Don’t help legitimize @Cernovich. Cut him from the broadcast. This is him smearing me with baseless pedophile claims. He’s sick.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:16:00pm

re: #66 William Lewis

He’s just the scapegoat since President Bannon has wanted rid of him since day one.

Three words: Anyone But Trump.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:16:07pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:16:40pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

The more things change:

Republican campaign billboard with slogan “Make Our Homes and Streets Safe!”

[Embedded content]

This is a photo by Pittsburgh Courier photographer “Teenie” Williams, circa 1949. The Courier was the nationally-important Pittsburgh AA paper. We got to see a show of his PGH jazz legends at the Carnegie Museum of Art this month. Might do a page on him.

Found this scratching around for info on that image you posted Deb. Good photographer.

Atlas Obscura - The Photographer Who Captured Black Voters for Decades in Pittsburgh

roughout the course of his prolific 40-year career, photographer Charles “Teenie” Harris amassed an extraordinary archive consisting of nearly 80,000 negatives. Starting in the 1930s, Harris documented Pittsburgh’s African American community for the Pittsburgh Courier, one of the country’s leading African-American newspapers. He captured over 3,000 portraits between 1957 and 1977 for one regular column alone; in the 1960s, almost ten of his images ran per issue of the Pittsburgh Courier.

Today, this vast and significant collection, much of which has been digitized online, resides with the Carnegie Museum of Art. Over the years, the Museum invited various curators to stage exhibitions of his work. The most recent focused on performance, and now, with an election looming, Teenie Harris Photographs: Elections highlights Harris’ work chronicling Pittsburgh elections.

Known as “One Shot” due to his ability to capture his subjects quickly, Harris’ photographs encompass the political process over several decades, including the organization around the 1965 Voting Rights Act. In one photograph, K. Leroy Irvis is captured in a voting booth in 1962. In another, taken ten years later, Shirley Chisholm receives a bouquet from Delta Sigma Theta sorority members.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:17:26pm
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Nyet  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:18:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:19:55pm

This guy!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:20:51pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Well, no fucking shit, you giant talking yam. Perhaps because your bill was a clusterfuck of fail, simultaneously offering tax breaks to your rich friends whilst screwing over the poor, elderly, and female?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:21:26pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Again he is pointing the finger in the opposite direction of the real problem.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:21:27pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #54 ObserverArt

Gotta ask. What kind of doll is the little girl holding? Let’s say my interest is piqued!

Any one want to offer a guess.

Considering the era, most likely this:

en.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:22:27pm
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TedStriker  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:25:53pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

This guy!

Trump criticizes congressional Democrats in response to failure of health care bill: “We had no Democrat support” abcnews.go.com pic.twitter.com

— ABC News (@ABC) March 26, 2017

File it under, “No shit, Sherlock!”

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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:26:19pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Considering the era, most likely this:

en.wikipedia.org

So, I wasn’t seeing things. As soon as I looked at that image I was like WTF? I thought it looked like a black face Raggedy Ann.

It may heave been triggered by the recent images of the rather disgusting Jockey holding a Lantern yard statues posted here.

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electrotek  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:26:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:27:43pm

re: #71 ObserverArt

Found this scratching around for info on that image you posted Deb. Good photographer.

Atlas Obscura - The Photographer Who Captured Black Voters for Decades in Pittsburgh

The Carnegie show concentrates on his documentation of the Hill District jazz scene. Amazing people.

Earl Fatha” Hines with eye patch, Erroll Garner, Billy Eckstine, Maxine Sullivan, and Mary Lou Williams at the piano

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thedopefishlives  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:28:28pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

He really does think of himself as a master negotiator, able to reconcile the political parties and getting mad at the “opposition” when they don’t fold under his superior prowess. What a narcissistic piece of shit.

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meteor  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:30:48pm

re: #12 Franklin

Haaaaaaaaaaa

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:31:57pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

But of course.

Trump is just an exaggerated version of the existing “can’t fail, can only be failed” culture. It will be Democratic Party stabs-in-the-back every time he fucks up. What makes Trump slightly different than other wingnuts is that he’s willing to scapegoat anybody (and eventually will) and his version of “can’t fail” is total narcissism with not even minimally coherent goals.

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Nyet  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:33:25pm

lolololol

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:35:37pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:35:41pm

re: #88 Nyet

To be fair, at Andrew Breitbart’s autopsy no drugs were detected in his system save for a BAC of .04%

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:36:52pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:38:49pm

Well, now we know where Jeanine Pirro got the idea on FOX News Channel to oust Paul Ryan from the House Speakership … wingnuts sabotaging their own.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:39:10pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I think it needs to be stated over and over:

There was exactly zero attempt to negotiate with or persuade Democrats to participate. The presumption was not just that they’re weren’t needed, but that they didn’t matter and shouldn’t be able to participate.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:39:17pm

Trump has directed the US military to start killing a lot of people, to shore up his failing presidency.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:40:57pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Well, now we know where Jeanine Pirro got the idea on FOX News Channel to oust Paul Ryan from the House Speakership … wingnuts sabotaging their own.

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Please, Republicans! Do it! Purge Ryan and force him out of the House and then elect Steve King Speaker. Please! DO IT!!!!

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Nyet  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:42:14pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

Yeah, but I find the joke funny anyway.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:43:16pm
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:43:58pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

He makes me SICK!

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:46:28pm

re: #95 Joe Bacon

Please, Republicans! Do it! Purge Ryan and force him out of the House and then elect Steve King Speaker. Please! DO IT!!!!

Not Steve King. Louie Gohmert.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:46:52pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:47:54pm

re: #96 Nyet

It’s all good, yo.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:50:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:51:57pm

re: #100 gocart mozart

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Video
or if you prefer the Chumbawamba version

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When that priest died, the whole town sang it at his funeral. Most approved. (This critical article is from a quasi-heretical RW source. The picture of Don Gallo made it worth it.)

dici.org

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:52:28pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

I could be wrong, but I really don’t think 1,000 civilians were killed in *one month* from drone strikes ordered by President Obama.

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petesh  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:53:00pm

Malevolent incompetence gets vastly more dangerous when it sits at the top of the chain of command. When it comes to killing civilians, many of the lower-echelon officers are actually quite competent. It’s horrible. In fact, sickening.

At this point, I dont care which of the many paths to impeachment or resignation is/are taken, but this is on the center-right. The rest of us have to keep forcing them to look in the goddam mirror and care. I say again, he’s gone by the end of the year as senior Republicans try to save their seats in 2018. Flynn or Stone or Manafort or somebody will do a deal, and the floodgates will open. But don’t hold your breath, these things take ludicrous amounts of time.

When he goes, we get a real shot at getting something done.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:56:25pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

When that priest died, the whole town sang it at his funeral. Most approved.

dici.org

They seem like … nice… people. o_O

May that priest be remembered as the saint he is.

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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:57:09pm

When Trump says no Democrats “helped” him, what he really means is no Democrat came groveling, seeking to kiss ass and kneel. Bannon walked into a room of do nothing GOP cultists and demanded they obey, and got smacked down. They don’t work for anyone, not even the nation. And that’s his cult, uh, “party”. Donald expects “losers” to know their places. No. the Democrats didn’t crawl to Emperor Malignancy. That is how the Empire rolls. Fealty. Servitude. Nope… “Sir? There is a phone call for you. Hysterical laughing on the other end. The ID says John Boehner.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2017 • 6:58:47pm

re: #106 William Lewis

They seem like … nice… people. o_O

May that priest be remembered as the saint he is.

Expanded #103 to explain the source.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:01:06pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:01:31pm

re: #99 Anymouse

Not Steve King. Louie Gohmert.

I was hoping to see a reference like this again. It gives me the opportunity to bring out an old photoshop from back when Louie was being mentioned to replace John Boner.

Gohmert House Speakers - Model 2015 System
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:02:56pm

It’s officially open war now between Trump and Ryan.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:04:16pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

It’s officially open war now between Trump and Ryan.

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Criswell Bacon predicts that Ryan will be removed from the Speakership by the end of March and he will resign from the House.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:04:51pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Expanded #106 to explain the source.

I presumed there was a good reason all things considered ;)

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nines09  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:05:47pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I love when barracudas turn on one another. Blood in the water, and then the sharks show up….more chum….

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:06:40pm

I love Republican purges. They kick out the most competent in the party and replace them with a stupid person.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:06:59pm

re: #112 Joe Bacon

Criswell Bacon predicts that Ryan will be removed from the Speakership by the end of March and he will resign from the House.

He may step down from the speaker’s position but he won’t quit the house. Like many GOP critters, he has no ability to actually work so he needs his slop from the public trough.

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bratwurst  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:07:41pm

I am confident this charming fellow has a bright future ahead of him elsewhere.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:07:55pm

I would like to see a coast to coast ad campaign “tailored” to each state. RWNJ may not give 2 shits about poor people losing health care, but they damn well need it rubbed in their fucking faces that the GOP and insurance industry was ready and willing to remove all kinds of benefits from insurance requirements and raise their rates for a tax cut on the rich.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:08:11pm

re: #116 William Lewis

He may step down from the speaker’s position but he won’t quit the house. Like many GOP critters, he has no ability to actually work so he needs his slop from the public trough.

I don’t think the RepubliKKKlans will let him stay. When RepubliKKKlans are in Purge mode they act just like Soviet Communists did.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:08:51pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

That opening segment from Pirro is fucking insane. The full court press is on to absolve Trump of all responsibility for the AHCA failure and lay all blame on Paul Ryan. If Ryan has any fucking brains at all he’ll immediately remove Devin Nunes as Intel Committee Chairman and replace him with a swing GOP House member like Susan Collins.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:09:00pm

re: #117 bratwurst

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I am confident this charming fellow has a bright future ahead of him elsewhere.

So when is MSNBC going to hire Boris?

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Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:10:03pm

re: #116 William Lewis

He may step down from the speaker’s position but he won’t quit the house. Like many GOP critters, he has no ability to actually work so he needs his slop from the public trough.

He is gerrymandered hard into his district. Janesville has been nothing but a shitstain of a district for at least 20 years, they always lag behind employment and income.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:10:16pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

That opening segment from Pirro is fucking insane. The full court press is on to absolve Trump of all responsibility for the AHCA failure and lay all blame on Paul Ryan. If Ryan has any fucking brains at all he’ll immediately remove Devin Nunes as Intel Committee Chairman and replace him with a swing GOP House member like Susan Collins.

The RepubliKKKlan Caucus won’t let him remove Nunes. If he tries, they will give Lyin’ Ryan the House Of Cards treatment!

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:10:29pm

re: #115 Single-handed sailor

I love Republican purges. They kick out the most competent in the party and replace them with a stupid person.

Well, President Bannon claims to love Vladimir Ilyich so it’s no surprise he’d try to instigate a purge like Uncle Joe’s of the Red Army and leave only the most ignorant of the loyal left in place.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:10:35pm

This is a good parody

Mr. Tangerine Man


Hey, Mr. Tangerine man, build a wall for me
I’m not that bright and don’t know that you’re not going to
Hey, Mr. Tangerine man, keep Muslims away from me
With my jingoistic world view, I’ll come following you

Fake me out with this,
I’ll be your newest apprentice
My sister thinks you’re a trip
All my friends say “Get a grip”
And my skull’s too numb to think
Waiting only for the bullshit you’ve been pedaling

I’m ready to think anything
Your orange face does not fade
My IQ’s 88
Cast your protesters my way
I promise to go punching them

Hey, Mr. Tangerine man, build a wall for me
I’m not that bright and don’t know that you’re not going to
Hey, Mr. Tangerine man, keep Muslims away from me
With my jingoistic world view, I’ll come following you

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:11:36pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:11:48pm

re: #123 Joe Bacon

The RepubliKKKlan Caucus won’t let him remove Nunes. If he tries, they will give Lyin’ Ryan the House Of Cards treatment!

Point is that the way things are going they may very well end up doing that anyway. He’s being set up for the fall so Ryan would be wise to orchestrate his revenge in advance.

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Nyet  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:12:28pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

That’s one big Backpfeifenstimme…

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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:13:17pm

So, if Trump starts to show he is willing to throw Paulie Ryan under the bus, how long before Mitch and others in the ol’ Republican controlled Congress protect themselves by heating up those Russian investigations and maybe start looking into other things all Trump related?

Trump may think he can strong-arm business people, but politicians? Uh, no. They can and will bite back. And there are more of them and you are now playing dirty politics game and the Republicans are established.

Got more money backers too. And I’ve been thinking the business types might not be liking Donny either, so they may be more than glad to shove him over a ledge.

Let the circular firing squads commence!

Last Republicans standing face a good chance of defeat in 2018 and 2020!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:15:10pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:16:22pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:16:43pm

So is it only me who finds the blatant collusion between Trump and Fox to eliminate Trump’s enemies disturbing, to put it mildly?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:17:05pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:17:25pm

Ryan protection plan
To shore up U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan’s district, the GOP kept a toe in Ryan’s Janesville, cut loose more of Democratic Rock County and added some of Waukesha County’s most conservative suburbs.

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prairiefire  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:19:25pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

He’s had this all planned in advance.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:19:39pm

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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:22:19pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Alt-facts.

But hey, she never talked to the President about it.

But Fox took calls from Trump people to do this script and tell her to read it. Donny knew it because he said watch the show.

Damn, this is going to be bloody. Trump is whipping Fox on Ryan.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:22:38pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Pirro refers to Trump as someone “beholden to no one… but us.” Purest propaganda.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:23:00pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

Just saw a great Facebook post from a career Marine whose wife I’ve known since we were little kids.

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Responsible gun owner (tm). Leaving loaded magazines where a child can get them (or step on them).

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Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:23:27pm

Louie Gohmert for Speaker!!

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prairiefire  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:24:11pm

re: #139 Anymouse

Makes me ill.

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451_Montag  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:24:35pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I have never seen anything like that.

Ryan and best start wearing kevlar

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:24:36pm

re: #139 Anymouse

Responsible gun owner (tm). Leaving loaded magazines where a child can get them (or step on them).

It was an honest mistake. He’s a Sergeant in the Marine Corps. And his kid did the exact right thing, she let daddy know there was live ammunition nearby and told him.

Downding.

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ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:24:58pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

So is it only me who finds the blatant collusion between Trump and Fox to eliminate Trump’s enemies disturbing, to put it mildly?

Nope, I’m there with you. I bet Trump told them he was great for their ratings for a year and a half, so you owe him this now. Or, else.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:25:31pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

That opening segment from Pirro is fucking insane. The full court press is on to absolve Trump of all responsibility for the AHCA failure and lay all blame on Paul Ryan. If Ryan has any fucking brains at all he’ll immediately remove Devin Nunes as Intel Committee Chairman and replace him with a swing GOP House member like Susan Collins.

JFTR, isn’t Susan Collins in the Senate (R-ME)?

Though replacing Nunes is probably a lost cause by now: he (Nunes) has already beclowned himself enough over the Russian crap: even though his credibility is shot, who else is going get in there and not look blatantly like an Admin shill? Trey Gowdy?

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:25:42pm

re: #137 ObserverArt

Alt-facts.

But hey, she never talked to the President about it.

But Fox took calls from Trump people to do this script and tell her to read it. Donny knew it because he said watch the show.

Damn, this is going to be bloody. Trump is whipping Fox on Ryan.

Gaaaa she has an annoying delivery.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:25:52pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I tried to retweet that with a comment but my Fox account seems to be suspended. i wonder what I said.

My comment: The sharks are feeding on each other and I feel fine.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:26:48pm

re: #138 jaunte

Pirro refers to Trump as someone “beholden to no one… but us.” Purest propaganda.

Her affectations are simply ridiculous. So utterly fake. Puffed up like Lewis Prothero from V for Vendetta.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:27:54pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

It was an honest mistake. He’s a Sergeant in the Marine Corps. And his kid did the exact right thing, she let daddy know there was live ammunition nearby and told him.

Downding.

I’ll take the downding. I kept my shotgun and ammunition locked up when my son was that age. It wasn’t just some live ammunition lying around, it was “his” ammunition lying around. In a loaded magazine.

Good on the kid, not good on the dad.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:28:05pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

So is it only me who finds the blatant collusion between Trump and Fox to eliminate Trump’s enemies disturbing, to put it mildly?

We are in a very fucked up cultural place where this transparent collusion of a politician with the press to advance his agenda isn’t immediately sounding a klaxon.

But we’ve been edging towards this for awhile: FOX has coordinated with the GOP before, and it’s become accepted—nudge, nudge, wink, wink—by the audience that the network is “”on side” (which makes what they say a priori true).

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451_Montag  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:29:31pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

Her affectations are simply ridiculous. So utterly fake. Puffed up like Lewis Prothero from V for Vendetta.

As a friend once said “They have a voice that makes we want to use a cheese grater on my taint”

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:30:13pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

I thought it was funny, but I guess child protection services need to make a visit.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:31:16pm

Haven’t seen a musical in a long time, but I would probably watch this one…

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:31:28pm

re: #149 Anymouse

Good on the kid, not good on the dad.

And who taught that kid how to react when she finds unsecured guns and ammunition? Her DAD!

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:33:11pm
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Nyet  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:34:28pm

re: #128 Nyet

That’s one big Backpfeifenstimme…

re: #146 Anymouse

Gaaaa she has an annoying delivery.

Glad I’m not the only one…

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:35:03pm

*Twitter mentions blowing up*

Huh?

*checks*

I got retweeted by comedian Eddie Pepitone, almost 90,000 followers. Heh!

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:35:29pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:35:41pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

And who taught that kid how to react when she finds unsecured guns and ammunition? Her DAD!

Maybe. You know them better than I do, so I can’t say. However:

There are no “honest mistakes” in handling firearms. Never. No different than “accidental discharges” when a child fires a gun. Substitute “magazine” for “gun” in that story and see if it counts as a responsible firearm owner. You account for every thing you do with a firearm, every time you do it.

Break out a box of shotgun shells and handle them, you count every one (expended or not) before you lock them up again. Load magazines, you account for every magazine.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:37:05pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

My Spidey Sense keeps telling me that Ryan has wanted out ever since Trump won and this is his exit plan!

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:37:15pm

re: #159 Anymouse

I forgot mistakes are never allowed with guns. My bad.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:40:44pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

He *follows* me! How strange.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:40:53pm

re: #161 teleskiguy

I forgot mistakes are never allowed with guns. My bad.

Z’all good. I’m having much more fun watching the Republicans eat their own.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:42:15pm

Ryan is a low form of life to be sure, but he is also a real politician with plenty of real experience in backroom throat cuttery. Trump and his handlers, in contrast, are rank amateurs who suffer from the additional handicap of boundless arrogance and hubris. Also worth noting, if Ryan can get Pence booted along with Trump, he, Ryan, will become President himself.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:42:38pm

re: #144 ObserverArt

Nope, I’m there with you. I bet Trump told them he was great for their ratings for a year and a half, so you owe him this now. Or, else.

This is the bullshit I expect to hear from Pravda, TASS, Izvestia, RT, Fox News

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:46:24pm

re: #163 Anymouse

Z’all good. I’m having much more fun watching the Republicans eat their own.

There are no mistakes allowed in space travel either. But they happen.

I took issue with your comment because you immediately smeared a good man and attentive father because *oh no a career officer with the U.S. Marine Corps left a loaded magazine in his truck and his kid found it, Responsible Gun Owner™.* That made me mad. Like you said, you don’t even know these folks, so who are you to judge?

That said, I’ve deleted my #136.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:46:51pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:47:51pm
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CleverToad  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:48:47pm

We now interrupt this broadcast for an unscheduled off-topic message: it is March 25, and the roads on the east side of Rocky Mountain National Park are bone dry, with an alarming small amount of snow to be seen. Trail Ridge Road is still closed, at least, but the signs at Bear Lake have been changed from
“The ice is beginning to melt and thin: if you try to walk on it, you may fall in”
to
“…you WILL fall in.”

This is not a good thing. Not that the scenery wasn’t lovely, but it’s supposed to be a lot whiter at this time of the year.

Oh, and I turned 61 today. This is not a good thing either.
The spousal unit who turned 62 in February was able to buy his lifetime parklands pass for $10. I’ve heard they are expecting to raise the rate to $80 later this year, but the pass gets you into every recreational facility run by six or seven Federal agencies, including national parks, national monuments, BLM site, et alia. It’s still a bargain.

We now return you to politics, music, pizza, puns and whatever other shenanigans are in progress, while I go back and try to catch up on the last two threads.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:51:35pm

To all those who said that Trump would bring CLASS back to the White House…well, y’all got some of those letters correct!

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:51:51pm

re: #169 CleverToad

Happy Birthday??

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Stanley Sea  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:53:48pm

Oregon just beat KU.

Wow!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:56:23pm

The Republicans really are The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight!

“Missed it by that much…”
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:56:37pm

Jeez…
He had been thinking about running for president for at least a decade. You would think he might take a few moments to familiarize himself with the actual job responsibilities…

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 7:58:52pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

It is ABSOLUTELY on him, because he ran for the office not knowing OR caring one whit about it, except he wanted to be king. OR he just wanted to use the campaign as a way of building that media empire his family wanted.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:05:18pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

There are no mistakes allowed in space travel either. But they happen.

I took issue with your comment because you immediately smeared a good man and attentive father because *oh no a career officer with the U.S. Marine Corps left a loaded magazine in his truck and his kid found it, Responsible Gun Owner™.* That made me mad. Like you said, you don’t even know these folks, so who are you to judge?

That said, I’ve deleted my #136.

Well, as for who am I to judge? I dunno, someone who thinks that leaving firearms parts around is a bad idea for any person, let alone a parent.

Note I didn’t rag on his parenting. I ragged on his firearms safety.

I cannot delete my #139 as the time has expired.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:07:08pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:07:11pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

Jeez…
He had been thinking about running for president for at least a decade. You would think he might take a few moments to familiarize himself with the actual job responsibilities…

[Embedded content]

He was STABBED IN THE BACK!!! We all know what comes next!

/

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:07:18pm

Some of the Trumpsters boast that there was no rioting or looting. Of course not; Republicans only do those things at football games and their accountants’ offices respectively.

Facebook Post

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prairiefire  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:08:01pm

re: #172 Stanley Sea

Oregon just beat KU.

Wow!

Wow!

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:08:05pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Well, as for who am I to judge? I dunno, someone who thinks that leaving firearms parts around is a bad idea for any person, let alone a parent.

Note I didn’t rag on his parenting. I ragged on his firearms safety.

Honest mistakes not allowed. Got it.

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:08:46pm

You know, I’m willing to give Paul Ryan most of the blame for what was in the AHCA. He wrote it with insurance companies, lobbyists and think tanks, and I’m sure Pence was chill with it, but it just reeked of Ryan’s Randian worldview.

And I don’t think that Trump had a freaking clue about what was in the bill. He’s a moron who went along because he wanted to see anything pass to get that feather in his cap. He doesn’t believe in anything so why should he even care what was in it?

Trump is a fucking snake for going after Ryan this way, but it doesn’t mean that Ryan doesn’t richly deserve to get rolled because of the AHCA.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:10:56pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:11:45pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:12:10pm

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:15:05pm

re: #184 gocart mozart

Right!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:17:30pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:18:05pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

Honest mistakes not allowed. Got it.

Back to “there are no honest mistakes with firearms.” I learned that as a child and reinforced as a career enlisted military member. There is only negligence, not mistakes.

Store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons.

gunsafetyrules.nra.org

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:18:57pm

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:20:16pm

Excuse me while I go to Yiddish Google …
Schmuck is a name for someone who is mean, foolish, or inept.
Putz is a person who is foolish or without value, usually someone who does not contribute to society or a family. grammarist.com
Behamia means simply “animal”

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:20:49pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:20:50pm

re: #189 Joe Bacon

Oddly enough, they both look smaller. They aren’t squaring their shoulders and pushing their chests against their suits. Awwww.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:22:07pm

re: #182 stpaulbear

The president was certainly willing to dance around like the AHCA was his until it got a poor reception.

The current assignment of blame isn’t about fair portions: Donald Trump never admits he fucked up…somebody else betrayed him.

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

They’re going to go with the whole evil counselors thing, in form or another. Their new hero can’t be wrong.

This is the ripened fruit of all those years of propping up Reagan and fetishing Great Men (who are held back by wicked lesser men who want “reasons” and “logic”).

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:22:14pm

I don’t think calling for Ryan to step down is going to make him like Trump.

I’m going to have to give the Founding Fathers a bit more credit. I’ve kind of wavered toward wanting more of a parliamentary type system, where the president and congress are tied together, but having them independent has further reduced Trump’s ability to do damage. Had he and Bannon been smart, they would have done tax cuts first, but having this fight over health care, and having Trump and Bannon think they could completely threaten House Republicans is hurting them.

Now, if we could only get rid of the Electoral College.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

Evening all,,, I guess SNL will be live tonite.

While your waiting here’s a bone to chew on.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:22:59pm

re: #188 Anymouse

You think my friend doesn’t know this shit?!? A career soldier?!? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO JUDGE? Once again.

I’m about to say horrible shit that might get me banned, so let’s just drop it.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:24:07pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

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Hot Damn! Robert Woolsey has risen from the dead! Could Bert Wheeler be next?

Yeah, he played a Cuckoo—on the Silver Screen!
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:25:04pm

re: #194 Belafon

If they had been smart, they would have had some advisors who knew which way was up, and would have started with a few smaller things on the list, rather than leap in head first. But frankly, I’m glad they were stupid and arrogant!

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:27:20pm
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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:27:43pm

Trying to figure out a problem in my Abstract Algebra book. It’s stumped me for a bit. I Google to see how it’s been solved and what the solution seems to involve is something that’s not covered in the book so far.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:27:46pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:27:57pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

You think my friend doesn’t know this shit?!? A career soldier?!? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO JUDGE? Once again.

I’m about to say horrible shit that might get me banned, so let’s just drop it.

Well you left me with an open question up there that I have an answer for on who I am to judge, but I’d rather set this aside as well. I wasn’t a career soldier, just a career sailor.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:28:22pm
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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:29:32pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:29:46pm
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:31:06pm

re: #205 gocart mozart

Thanks, Trump.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:31:39pm

re: #202 Anymouse

Well you left me with an open question up there that I have an answer for on who I am to judge, but I’d rather set this aside as well. I wasn’t a career soldier, just a career sailor.

I’m well aware of your service. Maybe I’m seeing this all wrong, because I see it as an affront to my friend. You call it negligence, and you are correct. But a Sergeant in the Marine Corps has to keep track of a lot of firearms and ammunition, a magazine ends up in his pick-up truck and his kid finds it, and suddenly it’s fuck all.

Should I send that post to his superiors so he can be disciplined, huh?

We need to drop this shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:31:58pm

I’m glad if Louise Mensch is making Trumpsters uncomfortable, but her full-throated support of Brexit, which is not unconnected to Putin’s desire to see Europe at each other’s throats again, makes her basically null and void to this observer.

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whitebeach  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:32:07pm

re: #175 retired cynic

It is ABSOLUTELY on him, because he ran for the office not knowing OR caring one whit about it, except he wanted to be king. OR he just wanted to use the campaign as a way of building that media empire his family wanted.

I’ve had the notion for quite a while that he ran in the first place because, even though he didn’t expect to win, he thought that any kind of credible showing as a presidential candidate would insulate, or maybe completely shield, him from prosecution for various crimes ranging from fraud to tax evasion. It worked better than he could have hoped. If he ever steps down, look for a deal where Pence pardons him for any and all offenses, a la Ford with Nixon and Bush the First with countless Iran-Contra creeps. He skates with whatever gelt he grifts from now on.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:33:21pm

re: #209 whitebeach

I hope some exceptions can be found, or that Pence and all conspirators go down together.

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:35:21pm

re: #205 gocart mozart

It might just be better for his car that they don’t let him have that plate. Keys and rocks can go astray…

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:36:05pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:36:13pm

These idiots trying to spin the TrumpTruck picture.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:36:18pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:37:32pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

These idiots trying to spin the TrumpTruck picture.

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Obama is going somewhere.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:37:58pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:38:07pm

re: #215 stpaulbear

Obama is going somewhere.

And getting exercise all the while.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:40:31pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

And getting exercise all the while.

And relieving stress, which is a very good thing!

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:40:36pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:41:04pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

(cut) We need to drop this shit.

Consider it dropped, then.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:43:10pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:43:20pm

It is! It is true! I’ve tried it myself!

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:45:35pm
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:46:37pm

re: #223 Belafon

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tweet by Cong. Lieu that I did not agree with.

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JordanRules  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:48:02pm

re: #223 Belafon

I’m really impressed with Rep Lieu’s troll game!
Nice job on the “quotes” too.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:48:09pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:49:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:50:14pm

re: #224 retired cynic

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tweet by Cong. Lieu that I did not agree with.

He needs to seek higher office. Unfortunately he can never be President being Taiwan born.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:52:33pm

re: #227 Anymouse

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Well, it bounced back after the AHCA failed, but I suspect we’re going to see weakening now that the reality is sinking in that Trump has no control over whether or not Republicans will support his bills.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:52:50pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

He needs to seek higher office. Unfortunately he can never be President being Taiwan born.

That’s ok. We need more than one person at the top.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:53:30pm

re: #227 Anymouse

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Here’s what happened to health care stocks AFTER Lyin’ Ryan pulled the Trumpcare Bill!

Note where the arrow is—starts right at the point the bill was killed!
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:53:33pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:53:58pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:55:10pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:55:54pm

re: #233 Dave In Austin

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:56:09pm

re: #231 Joe Bacon

Here’s what happened to health care stocks AFTER Lyin’ Ryan pulled the Trumpcare Bill!

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I went to go look for something like that and then found this, what I consider stupid, analysis:

Considering any tax cuts will require Democrats, how does this guy think Republicans are going to get it passed.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:56:11pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

Thank you! LOL

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:56:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:56:57pm

re: #230 retired cynic

That’s ok. We need more than one person at the top.

I know. He is sharp though. Definitely someone I like a lot.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:57:20pm
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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 8:57:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:00:19pm

re: #238 gocart mozart

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I did. One actually looks like he knows what he’s doing. Good metaphor on their presidencies Jack.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:00:34pm

Keith Olbermann weighs in on the Jeanine Pirro issue on his latest GQ installment:

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:02:51pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:03:01pm

At least with the infamous Dukakis tank photo, Mike was an army vet. Trump would have never driven a truck for money because he would find the work beneath him.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:04:24pm

Meanwhile, Back at the Republican Congressional Retreat…

CAMP RUNAMUCK opening credits

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:06:47pm

Here’s where it gets tricky, but where this claim may help explain the confusing events of this past week. Six days ago, House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes let slip in an interview that one person currently in Donald Trump’s White House is under surveillance (link). Three days later someone fed Nunes some intel about surveillance of the Trump transition team which spooked him to the point that he ran to the White House and told Donald Trump about it. And now the end result of the Nunes controversy is tonight’s abrupt resignation of Boris Epshteyn.

If you start with the asserted but unproven premise that Boris Epshteyn helped set up the “pee pee tape” incident which led to Russia having blackmail over Donald Trump, then you have to logically assume that Epshteyn has been some kind of Kremlin spy against Trump the entire time. If so, and if the U.S. intelligence committee had evidence to that effect, it would have led to a judge granting a FISA surveillance warrant against Epshteyn. When Nunes said a week ago that someone in the Trump White House is currently under surveillance, he would have been referring to Epshteyn. And if Nunes was subsequently fed intel revealing that Epshteyn was under surveillance because he was Kremlin operative spying on Trump the entire time, it would explain why Nunes flipped out and went running to Trump at his own career peril.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:09:47pm

re: #236 Belafon

I went to go look for something like that and then found this, what I consider stupid, analysis:

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Considering any tax cuts will require Democrats, how does this guy think Republicans are going to get it passed.

Will they? I’m thinking that with something like the usual crap that is GOP “Tax reform”; I.e. Stuff that benefits the rich without blatantly screwing ordinary people too openly, they might try to simply push it through solely with GOP support ( meanwhile flogging the good old “tax-and-spend Democrats” wheeze). Of course, how they expect to get away with it given the horrorshow of the proposed budget beats me; but, I’m sure they’re going to try.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:11:56pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

I don’t know much about Palmer Report or its owner Bill Palmer. I’m pretty sure he’s not the same person as the Bill Palmer mentioned as a musician who invented a line of bass accordions (and who amongst various other Bill Palmers scores way above Palmer Report’s Bill Palmer on various search engines).

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Kragar  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:14:32pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:14:37pm

re: #233 Dave In Austin

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:15:08pm

This is one of my favorite twitter things, the unequivocal assertion followed immediately a tacit admission it was wrong but that doesn’t matter.

I don’t know much but I’m pretty sure the solution starts with not saying stupid shit.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:16:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:17:06pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

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Everyone wants the pee tape to be true but Palmer is reaching like crazy in that piece.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:17:21pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

I think we should have black women run the country. They voted better than anyone!

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:19:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:20:04pm

We need a war against cognitive dissonance.

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Anymouse  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:20:34pm

Gonna retire for now. Try to keep the free world free whilst I’m gone. /s

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:20:40pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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44 seconds was all I could stand of Ducklips (H/T Babushka)—the woman can barely open her mouth to speak—which, if she couldn’t open it at all, would be a blessing.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:22:02pm

re: #249 Jay C

Will they? I’m thinking that with something like the usual crap that is GOP “Tax reform”; I.e. Stuff that benefits the rich without blatantly screwing ordinary people too openly, they might try to simply push it through solely with GOP support ( meanwhile flogging the good old “tax-and-spend Democrats” wheeze). Of course, how they expect to get away with it given the horrorshow of the proposed budget beats me; but, I’m sure they’re going to try.

Any “reform” that adds to the deficit cannot be passed via reconciliation. That was what I was thinking in reference to needing Democrats.

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TedStriker  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:23:04pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

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We need a war against cognitive dissonance.

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Kragar  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:26:55pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:28:20pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:29:11pm

re: #265 jaunte

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:29:18pm

re: #265 jaunte

Big Ghey interfered with the Lord!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:29:26pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:31:25pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:31:28pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

Dude, you talk to God. Maybe He is giving you bad information?

And the Lord said, “Psyche!”

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:32:20pm
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Kragar  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:32:41pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:32:50pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:33:43pm

re: #271 gocart mozart

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:34:51pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

Jeez…
He had been thinking about running for president for at least a decade. You would think he might take a few moments to familiarize himself with the actual job responsibilities…

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How would he know which individuals upon whom he would be able to rely?

In addition to being disingenuous tripe, that sentence structure is mind-boggling.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:35:12pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

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Alternative commandments

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:37:19pm

I have googled my name off and on. The only name that has ever come close to mine is Lonnie Mack. I get on facebook, and I get a friend request from someone with the same first and last name as mine. He’s had his account for about 6 years, so I know it’s not fake, but wow, it’s not like my name is John Smith.

I’m trying to decide whether or not to friend him. He grew up in a part of Arkansas known for having a post office, lives in Louisiana, and has five kids. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t like the politics I’ve posted (and yes, I know what some people think of politics on facebook, but I’m not about to let the idiocies of Texas slip by the people paying attention to me).

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:41:50pm

Jonathan Chait:
“…Conservatives disagree philosophically with the very concept of insurance as most Americans experience it. Insurance means spreading risk, which is a form of redistribution. Republicans postured against Obamacare from the left, denouncing its high deductibles and premiums, and promising a better, cheaper plan that would cover everybody. Their plan, inevitably, did the opposite. All politicians overpromise, of course. But the Republicans did more than overpromise. They delivered a policy directionally opposed to their promises.

It is not possible to write a bill that meets public standards for acceptable health-insurance coverage within the parameters of conservative ideology.”

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:42:24pm

Would someone out there like a Birdie GIF?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:43:15pm
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:43:38pm

re: #278 jaunte

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Jonathan Chait:
“…Conservatives disagree philosophically with the very concept of insurance as most Americans experience it. Insurance means spreading risk, which is a form of redistribution. Republicans postured against Obamacare from the left, denouncing its high deductibles and premiums, and promising a better, cheaper plan that would cover everybody. Their plan, inevitably, did the opposite. All politicians overpromise, of course. But the Republicans did more than overpromise. They delivered a policy directionally opposed to their promises.

It is not possible to write a bill that meets public standards for acceptable health-insurance coverage within the parameters of conservative ideology.”

BINGO!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:45:23pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:45:26pm

re: #63 gocart mozart

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50 People showed up for the MAGA rally at the state capitol in Frankfort, Kentucky

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:46:18pm

re: #279 Dave In Austin

Would someone out there like a Birdie GIF?

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The original tweet by Molly KcKew seems like a bit of a threat that doesn’t have a lot of weight. Even it’s threatening Obama, which, I’m sure Obama’s going “yawn”.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:46:26pm

re: #281 retired cynic

I’m glad he put it into words. It’s been weird seeing all these guys seemingly not understanding the concept. Apparently they do understand the concept, they’re just so addled by ideology they can’t force themselves to admit that spreading risk through redistribution is a good idea.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:47:42pm

God damn it, when Bill Maher is right, he’s fucking right. And pretty funny, too.

New Rule: Trump and the Long Con | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:48:09pm

re: #77 Anymouse

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Ryan is one of the most ineffective Speakers in history. But what sane person would want that thankless job?

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:49:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:49:53pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:50:24pm

No grift too small.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:53:07pm

re: #282 goddamnedfrank

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Since I work for a government contractor, we do a crap load of training on ethics, handling information, and dealing with foreign governments and representatives. It just blows my mind how many of those training courses the Trump administration seems to be actively trying to violate.

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:54:33pm

re: #290 jaunte

They probably rented the ballroom to celebrate the Trumpcare victory.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:56:05pm

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:56:21pm

re: #57 Anymouse

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Two one-year stints as an English teacher and one in early March to Mecca just before the attack.

Alarm bells? No. No way.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:56:44pm

re: #291 Belafon

Since I work for a government contractor, we do a crap load of training on ethics, handling information, and dealing with foreign governments and representatives. It just blows my mind how many of those training courses the Trump administration seems to be actively trying to violate.

To quote Photoshop: Select; Reverse.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:56:56pm

re: #292 stpaulbear

I’m surprised Florida Republicans are still paying $300 a head not to see Donald Trump.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:57:11pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:59:46pm

re: #175 retired cynic

It is ABSOLUTELY on him, because he ran for the office not knowing OR caring one whit about it, except he wanted to be king. OR he just wanted to use the campaign as a way of building that media empire his family wanted.

And Trump billed himself as much smarter than the politicians, able to make great deals they can’t do. Surprise! Trump was lying.

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allegro  Mar 25, 2017 • 9:59:50pm

So I moved my laptop to the bedroom to follow the thread a bit more before nighties. Buddy the dog sits and stares at me. “Nighties, precious” I say, giving him a scritch. Stare. “Why you stare at me?” I query, knowing he’s just been out for piddles, his water and kibble bowls are full, it’s late and he had a big, fun day. Stare. “What?” I ask again. No blink, just stare. Accusingly. I’m like WTF? Stare. Getting more intense as though I’ve committed some terrible betrayal of trust.

Oh. I took his bed pillow out to the car for our road trip today and forgot to bring it back in. Outside to the car I run in only a big t-shirt, praying no one is about on this Saturday night to call the cops to come arrest me for indecent exposure. Bent over to fetch the pillow from the back seat I hear “Hey, [allegro]!” Oh fuck me, I think, standing up quickly clutching the pillow in front of me in a futile attempt to cover my… lack of cover to see my next door neighbor just grinning and looking like he’s ready to sit down for a nice long chat. He’s gay so I know he has no other motives (and at my age 64 as of last week, even if he wasn’t gay I have no illusions of lustful young men) but damn. I’m backing towards my door, pillow clutched, and he’s just chatting away. I’m like, I love ya honey, but really? Now?!

Damn dog better enjoy that pillow tonight.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:01:04pm

re: #299 allegro

Very Big Grin!

Edit, because I must have used code, and it disappeared!

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:04:40pm

re: #300 retired cynic

edit

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:05:43pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:15:17pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:18:37pm

re: #291 Belafon

Since I work for a government contractor, we do a crap load of training on ethics, handling information, and dealing with foreign governments and representatives. It just blows my mind how many of those training courses the Trump administration seems to be actively trying to violate.

Every year, I am required to have multiple training sessions involving ethics. I just had one last week and all through that session I thought of how President Pee Pee was violating EVERY scenario the instructor presented…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:18:54pm

re: #278 jaunte

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Jonathan Chait:
“…Conservatives disagree philosophically with the very concept of insurance as most Americans experience it. Insurance means spreading risk, which is a form of redistribution. Republicans postured against Obamacare from the left, denouncing its high deductibles and premiums, and promising a better, cheaper plan that would cover everybody. Their plan, inevitably, did the opposite. All politicians overpromise, of course. But the Republicans did more than overpromise. They delivered a policy directionally opposed to their promises.

It is not possible to write a bill that meets public standards for acceptable health-insurance coverage within the parameters of conservative ideology.”

It makes you wonder if the GOP were around in the 1700s whether they would approve of Lloyd’s insurance business.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:23:22pm

re: #305 wheat-dogg

It makes you wonder if the GOP were around in the 1700s whether they would approve of Lloyd’s insurance business.

I remember Grandma Bacon telling me how the American Medical Association opposed the establishment of Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans during the depression and how Republican controlled states banned those plans because they “infringed on individual liberty”. Those bans were finally lifted during World War 2 due to women entering manufacturing ranks…

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:23:37pm

re: #299 allegro

It least the weather is perfect this evening…

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allegro  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:31:49pm

re: #307 Dave In Austin

It least the weather is perfect this evening…

That it is. It was a perfect day.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:36:51pm

Great, now that Mensch is attacking Trump she’s got a bunch of Pollyanna ass defenders who think her shit can’t stink.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:39:04pm

re: #306 Joe Bacon

I remember Grandma Bacon telling me how the American Medical Association opposed the establishment of Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans during the depression and how Republican controlled states banned those plans because they “infringed on individual liberty”. Those bans were finally lifted during World War 2 due to women entering manufacturing ranks…

Is this where libertarians get their nonsense about opposing public services like fire departments? They bandy those words “individual liberty” around, too, as if to say “I’m free to watch while your house burns to the ground, not noticing the smoke coming from mine.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:42:23pm

re: #309 goddamnedfrank

Mensch’s ridiculous tweet the other day asking if some Russian spy plane were in Connecticut shows her lack of professionalism and common sense. She tweeted she couldn’t check the report to see if it were true, and asked for help. It took 30 seconds on flightaware.com to prove the report was false. But I will bet you $5 that some of her followers concluded there really was a Russian spy plane in Connecticut.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:42:36pm

re: #309 goddamnedfrank

Anybody who’s been paying attention to Louise Mensch’s writing for longer than Trump has been president knows that she’s kind of skeezy. It’s why I’m skeptical of people like David Frum. The veneer of respectability, and these right wing fucks have ample opportunity these days to don a beautiful handsome cloak.

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:52:31pm

This. Is. Pathetic.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 10:55:18pm

re: #313 BeachDem

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Joe Bacon  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:02:24pm

re: #310 wheat-dogg

Is this where libertarians get their nonsense about opposing public services like fire departments? They bandy those words “individual liberty” around, too, as if to say “I’m free to watch while your house burns to the ground, not noticing the smoke coming from mine.”

I first encountered Libertarians when I started college in 1973. And yes, those disciples of Murray Rothbard and John Hospers sure loved to bullshit about “individual liberty”!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:02:24pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:21:25pm

re: #313 BeachDem

This. Is. Pathetic.

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archer puking

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mmmirele  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:26:33pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

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Turned out to be true and damnable.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:31:03pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2017 • 11:59:49pm

Gun owners. I have to express my extreme displeasure with Anymouse. He equated my friend who is a Sergeant in the Marine Corps to a negligent irresponsible gun owner because his daughter found and pointed out right away a loaded magazine in his pick-up.

Anymouse, I know you were a soldier. Are you telling me that your recall and memory of all the firearms and ammunition in your lifetime of firearms were perfectly analyzed and catalogued? If you say yes, you’re full of shit.

Okay. I’m done with this stupid distraction. Though I admit it made me pretty angry.

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teleskiguy  Mar 26, 2017 • 12:06:41am

re: #320 teleskiguy

You know what it is? Here’s the chronology.

I post something I think people would find funny at LGF. Anymouse sees it and says “Great example of shithead gun ownership.” And he doesn’t know any of the facts behind the post. And I get angry (still am, a bit).

Hey stalker blog, try and dissect that!

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2017 • 12:38:40am
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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:00:11am

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

After “her” assertion that all men are evil I’m not sure it’s not an RW troll rather than a real misandrist.

I’ll bite anyway.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:02:38am

re: #313 BeachDem

This. Is. Pathetic.

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Why does the King of Mars wear a MAGA rather than a MMGA hat?

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:06:15am

re: #311 wheat-dogg

Mensch’s ridiculous tweet the other day asking if some Russian spy plane were in Connecticut shows her lack of professionalism and common sense. She tweeted she couldn’t check the report to see if it were true, and asked for help. It took 30 seconds on flightaware.com to prove the report was false. But I will bet you $5 that some of her followers concluded there really was a Russian spy plane in Connecticut.

I think she’s literally not alright in the head.

Acc. to her Putin murdered Breitbart and Lesin and Obama should have bombed Russia.

I don’t think anyone wants crazy as an ally.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:12:49am

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

Everyone wants the pee tape to be true but Palmer is reaching like crazy in that piece.

He’s one of the idiot sources - like Mensch and Abramson - some on the left began turning to in desperation. Lack of critical thinking is not only the problem on the right.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:26:26am

re: #326 Nyet

He’s one of the idiot sources - like Mensch and Abramson - some on the left began turning to in desperation. Lack of critical thinking is not only the problem on the right.

I’ve learned to discount anything Palmer and Mensch tweet. I don’t follow Abramson, so I only see RTs. He seems like a windbag.

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freetoken  Mar 26, 2017 • 1:39:55am

5 hours of Migration Assistant assisting… and I have a working El Capitan system.

Now I just need to set up Time Machine for a different volume… and the initial run will take overnight…

Fancy these gadgets, and OSX has always been full of (usually) pleasant surprises. But as our systems get larger and larger my old FW800 interface is looking older and older.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:06:49am

re: #328 freetoken

Yep, of course my external drives are on USB 2 & 3 ports.

Next question for me is a 2tb Seagate or 1tb WD to replace my 500gb internal in my laptop since big SSDs are still too expensive.

Then I’ll see if the chipset will support going from 8gb ram to 16gb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:14:27am

re: #115 Single-handed sailor

I love Republican purges. They kick out the most competent in the party and replace them with a stupid person.

which is fine if that person is then not promoted to a position of even greater power in government

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freetoken  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:14:39am

re: #329 William Lewis

If you backup the entire drive then I’d recommend a smaller drive.

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freetoken  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:14:59am

They’re better behaved tonight:

Gaia’s Kittens (fosters for Purrfect Pals)

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Dave In Austin  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:16:32am

Move of the evening I must say…..

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:28:30am

re: #331 freetoken

If you backup the entire drive then I’d recommend a smaller drive.

Good point, though my backups tend to be “copy drag” data folder to external drive with space left ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 2:29:57am

re: #281 retired cynic

“It is not possible to write a bill that meets public standards for acceptable health-insurance coverage within the parameters of conservative ideology.”

Because their concept of individual freedom means the freedom for persons and families with limited assets and incomes to negotiate individually for terms of coverage with insurance companies whose CEOs make more in one year than most of us will earn in a lifetime…

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 3:23:43am
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Anymouse  Mar 26, 2017 • 3:26:28am

re: #320 teleskiguy

Gun owners. I have to express my extreme displeasure with Anymouse. He equated my friend who is a Sergeant in the Marine Corps to a negligent irresponsible gun owner because his daughter found and pointed out right away a loaded magazine in his pick-up.

Anymouse, I know you were a soldier. Are you telling me that your recall and memory of all the firearms and ammunition in your lifetime of firearms were perfectly analyzed and catalogued? If you say yes, you’re full of shit.

Okay. I’m done with this stupid distraction. Though I admit it made me pretty angry.

re: #321 teleskiguy

You know what it is? Here’s the chronology.

I post something I think people would find funny at LGF. Anymouse sees it and says “Great example of shithead gun ownership.” And he doesn’t know any of the facts behind the post. And I get angry (still am, a bit).

Hey stalker blog, try and dissect that!

I was a sailor, not a soldier, but that’s okay.

Hmm. you wrote you wanted to drop this, I agreed, and I left. I come back later and find it’s still going.

As for firearms in the Navy, at least while I was in it you had to check out weapons and ammunition for duty or training. A person was expected to return everything, so keeping track of it at the time was important.

So let’s try again, I agree again to drop the issue. I’ll be taking a few days off from here and check in later - I have a long week ahead anyway (today is Epilepsy Awareness day so I have other things to do for that, state water operator school over most of the week, and the forty-ninth anniversary of my father’s death on Saturday).

Take care, and enjoy the skiing while the snow continues. I might get to check in during the week, but probably not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 3:32:22am

re: #337 Anymouse

any normal, intelligent being can be expected to be aware of whether a gun located in his own vehicle is loaded…

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:08:01am

The ad Roger Stone once placed online, via The Smoking Gun.

I certainly won’t kink-shame anyone for anything consensual, but it’s weird for an alt-right guy, ain’t it?

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:13:04am

re: #339 Nyet

The ad Roger Stone once placed online, via The Smoking Gun.

I certainly won’t kink-shame anyone for anything consensual, but it’s weird for an alt-right guy, ain’t it?

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“The very pre-ponderance of passionately pious men in the colony was virtually an assurance of unnatural crime; insomuch as psychology now proves the religious instinct to be a form of transmuted eroticism precisely parallel to the transmutations in other directions which respectively produce such things as sadism, hallucination, melancholia, and other mental morbidities. Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity.”
— H.P. Lovecraft in a letter to Robert E. Howard, 1930-10-04.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:14:21am

re: #339 Nyet

The ad Roger Stone once placed online, via The Smoking Gun.

I certainly won’t kink-shame anyone for anything consensual, but it’s weird for an alt-right guy, ain’t it?

It is just an expression of his deep passion for America and Freedom.

Make America Meat.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:23:44am

From a rogue wikiclone:

Flat earth

Flat earth is a hoax theory in the broader so-called truth movement and a few in nationalist movements (eg. Sinead McCarthy, Tila Tequila). The thought is that Jews are so smart and clever they hid the fact that the earth is flat from the world. The United Nations flag shows the earth how modern flat earthers claim: a circle with the north pole at the center and antarctica around the edges.

Flat earthers claim things such as that all flights in the southern hemisphere are routed up to the northern hemisphere and then back down. They also claim that people are not allowed to fly straight across Antarctica.

A spherecuck is an insult for people who believe the earth is round.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:24:45am

re: #340 Teukka

“The very pre-ponderance of passionately pious men in the colony was virtually an assurance of unnatural crime; insomuch as psychology now proves the religious instinct to be a form of transmuted eroticism precisely parallel to the transmutations in other directions which respectively produce such things as sadism, hallucination, melancholia, and other mental morbidities. Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity.”
— H.P. Lovecraft in a letter to Robert E. Howard, 1930-10-04.

A lot of the founders of the early Christian Church, like Sts Paul and Augustine, obviously had serious sexual hangups (Paul was likely a repressed, self-loathing homosexual and St. Augustine castrated himself out of disgust for his sexual attraction to his own sister), which became part and parcel of church doctrine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:25:55am

re: #342 Nyet

From a rogue wikiclone:

Nonsense. The Earth is hollow and full of Nazi flying saucers.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:29:14am

Shit. I was joking the other day about Trump going to that NATO conference and handing out invoices to each member for services rendered.

I didn’t know he’d already done it to Merkel.

thetimes.co.uk

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:31:43am

re: #345 wheat-dogg

He seriously needs to go.

I don’t care how.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:36:53am

re: #346 Nyet

He seriously needs to go.

I don’t care how.

Replacing a sitting president inevitably damages the democratic process. Replacing him with theocratic Pence could be a longer-term nightmare.

And then we’re still left with the process and the electorate that made Trump possible.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:38:56am

re: #345 wheat-dogg

Shit. I was joking the other day about Trump going to that NATO conference and handing out invoices to each member for services rendered.

I didn’t know he’d already done it to Merkel.

thetimes.co.uk

Oh dear! How embarrassing. Merkel must think Americans are idiots to elect such a know nothing intothe White House.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:39:27am

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Replacing a sitting president inevitably damages the democratic process. Replacing him with theocratic Pence could be a longer-term nightmare.

And then we’re still left with the process and the electorate that made Trump possible.

Your democratic process is damaged at birth (the so-called “electoral college”, which is not at all democratic).

At this point I don’t think Pence will be more nightmarish than Trump, and if he will be, well, guys, it’s whom you elected. At least the rest of the world might suffer less. Self-interest speaking here.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:43:30am

re: #349 Nyet

Your democratic process is damaged at birth (the so-called “electoral college”, which is not at all democratic).

At this point I don’t think Pence will be more nightmarish than Trump, and if he will be, well, guys, it’s whom you elected. At least the rest of the world might suffer less. Self-interest speaking here.

I don’t think the world will be any safer if we give Torquemada the nukes.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:44:29am

re: #350 Decatur Deb

I don’t think the world will be any safer if we give Torquemada the nukes.

Pence is a conventional douche. The world will be safer, I promise.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:45:57am

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Replacing a sitting president inevitably damages the democratic process. Replacing him with theocratic Pence could be a longer-term nightmare.

And then we’re still left with the process and the electorate that made Trump possible.

Say what?

Then why does the Constitution make provisions for doing exactly that? Like it or not, Pence was also elected, and by law he’s the replacement if Trump should go. Pence at least would have some idea of how stuff works.

Our democratic process was damaged during the campaign and the election. We can’t go back and fix that damage, but we can sure fix one result of the damage. Trump is an embarrassment, and he will damage our standing in the world for decades if he is not removed from office soon.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:50:09am

re: #199 Joe Bacon

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Ouch!!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:50:46am

re: #352 wheat-dogg

Say what?

Then why does the Constitution make provisions for doing exactly that? Like it or not, Pence was also elected, and by law he’s the replacement if Trump should go. Pence at least would have some idea of how stuff works.

Our democratic process was damaged during the campaign and the election. We can’t go back and fix that damage, but we can sure fix one result of the damage. Trump is an embarrassment, and he will damage our standing in the world for decades if he is not removed from office soon.

The Constitution is not particularly democratic. Yes, about a third of the potential damage was already done before Inauguration Day. I think Trump’s potential damage will be more outrageous and, perversely, more correctable than Pence’s.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:51:27am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

The Constitution is not particularly democratic. Yes, about a third of the potential damage was already done before Inauguration Day. I think Trump’s damage will be more outrageous and, perversely, more correctable.

Not on the international stage.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:52:53am

re: #355 Nyet

Not on the international stage.

Short of an all-out war, he has already screwed that pooch.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:53:51am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

Short of an all-out war, he has already screwed that pooch.

Not yet, and there is time to make things right (relatively, that is).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 4:58:07am

re: #357 Nyet

Not yet, and there is time to make things right (relatively, that is).

Even if the GOP decides he has to go, and they haven’t, he would be in his second-third year before the process closes. Better start working to prevent his second term.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:04:33am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Even if the GOP decides he has to go, and they haven’t, he would be in his second-third year before the process closes. Better start working to prevent his second term.

This last part scares me more than the present situation. There are enough idiots in the USA to vote for him a second time, and if the next election is as screwed up as this one was, Trump might even serve another four years.

OTOH, he will be 74 in 2020. Age or apoplexy might get to him first.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:12:59am

re: #359 wheat-dogg

This last part scares me more than the present situation. There are enough idiots in the USA to vote for him a second time, and if the next election is as screwed up as this one was, Trump might even serve another four years.

OTOH, he will be 74 in 2020. Age or apoplexy might get to him first.

We had our chance a year ago. From this point it gets much worse before we can make it better.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:33:46am

Someone I follow has cluttered up my TL by retweeting every single one of Seth Abramson’s tweetstorm about the Mayflower meeting.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:39:04am

It has awakened from its slumber, and derping profusely.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:46:42am

re: #362 wheat-dogg

It has awakened from its slumber, and derping profusely.

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Though he is not wrong!

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451_Montag  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:48:07am

re: #352 wheat-dogg

Say what?

Then why does the Constitution make provisions for doing exactly that? Like it or not, Pence was also elected, and by law he’s the replacement if Trump should go. Pence at least would have some idea of how stuff works.

Our democratic process was damaged during the campaign and the election. We can’t go back and fix that damage, but we can sure fix one result of the damage. Trump is an embarrassment, and he will damage our standing in the world for decades if he is not removed from office soon.

I’m with you on repairing the damage. Trump and the GOP are so big nut fucked up anything they do is tainted and it appears that it simply will not work as advertised and will need fixing.

The other countries will come back on board. Warily sure, but with some relief. As long as the majority reject this bullshit.

So far he has achieved nothing

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:49:16am

Imgur
Good morning!

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451_Montag  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:51:36am

re: #365 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

You’re not a nice man

;)

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:56:30am

If Trump the Populist can’t get things through Congress, neither will Pence the Theocrat. Of course Pence won’t threaten to retaliate against Republicans that vote against him, but he also won’t threaten to leave NATO.

From what I’ve read of Indiana, Pence would be a politically inept version of Bush. And his family will live at the White House.

My only fear of Trump leaving early is that too many of those who voted for him won’t have learned any lesson.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2017 • 5:58:11am

re: #352 wheat-dogg

Say what?

Then why does the Constitution make provisions for doing exactly that? Like it or not, Pence was also elected, and by law he’s the replacement if Trump should go. Pence at least would have some idea of how stuff works.

Our democratic process was damaged during the campaign and the election. We can’t go back and fix that damage, but we can sure fix one result of the damage. Trump is an embarrassment, and he will damage our standing in the world for decades if he is not removed from office soon.

“We fucked up, sorry it took us this long to fix it” I would think would be a better sign of a democracy than “Sorry, we’re stuck with him.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:13:15am

We were fucked when Trump won the electoral college. We are doubly fucked if he goes away and the nation embraces Pence with a sigh of relief.

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:13:54am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

We were fucked when Trump won the electoral college. We are doubly fucked if he goes away and the nation embraces Pence with a sigh of relief.

What would make you triply fucked? Just curious…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:14:31am

re: #370 Teukka

What would make you triply fucked? Just curious…

Two Trump terms followed by two Pence terms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:15:18am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Two Trump terms followed by two Pence terms.

that’s a quadruple fuck

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:16:00am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

We were fucked when Trump won the electoral college. We are doubly fucked if he goes away and the nation embraces Pence with a sigh of relief.

Yes, if the country decides that having Pence in office means we’re good to go, then we are screwed. But, what evidence do you have that the country will just accept Pence? It didn’t work out for Ford, and he was way more likable. I don’t think the women’s marches, or the science marches, are going to go away just because Pence becomes president, because the bills to restrict women’s access to health care and abortion aren’t going to go away.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:16:19am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that’s a quadruple fuck

It’s a logarithmic scale.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:17:16am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

It’s a logarithmic scale.

you mean we are being fucked by a big knotty log with all the bark on it?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:17:17am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

And that is why when one of the candidates running for DA said she is a Philadelphian Republican. She sidestepped the association with that Trump person.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:17:40am

re: #373 Belafon

Yes, if the country decides that having Pence in office means we’re good to go, then we are screwed. But, what evidence do you have that the country will just accept Pence? It didn’t work out for Ford, and he was way more likable. I don’t think the women’s marches, or the science marches, are going to go away just because Pence becomes president, because the bills to restrict women’s access to health care and abortion aren’t going to go away.

I would buy into Trump impeachment after Pence is out of the equation. Impeachment would require a lot of Dem support, and that should be the price.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:22:18am

Marches are a very valuable tool, but at some point someone must cast a vote. Otherwise it’s just another parade.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:24:57am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

I would buy into Trump impeachment after Pence is out of the equation. Impeachment would require a lot of Dem support, and that should be the price.

You can’t seriously mean that Democrats should vote innocent in an impeachment trial if Trump committed serious crimes, surely.
The GOP would be so ripped apart by a Trump impeachment, the Democrats would win a huge wave election in 2020. The GOP is also so dysfunctional that, as it demonstrated, it can’t get its evil legislation passed. That is what comes of basing your election strategy on lies and fantasies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:25:23am

re: #378 Decatur Deb

Marches are a very valuable tool, but at some point someone must cast a vote. Otherwise it’s just another parade.

Samantha bee dedicated a spot to all those marchers who could be bothered to get in line and vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:27:13am

AHCA 2017: The Freedom Cock-up

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:29:36am

Today I have to start serious spring cleaning. Take all the old clothes that are cluttering up the closets and put them in bags for the Vietnam Veterans Association to pick up.

Then the living room and the dining room and start on the kitchen. Oh what fun!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:30:31am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

Today I have to start serious spring cleaning. Take all the old clothes that are cluttering up the closets and put them in bags for the Vietnam Veterans Association to pick up.

Then the living room and the dining room and start on the kitchen. Oh what fun!

and it is warm enough to air out all the rooms

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:31:08am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

Today I have to start serious spring cleaning. Take all the old clothes that are cluttering up the closets and put them in bags for the Vietnam Veterans Association to pick up.

Then the living room and the dining room and start on the kitchen. Oh what fun!

I’m watching basketball today. Go Big Blue!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:31:45am

re: #379 Big Beautiful Door

Not necessary. The GOP would be so ripped apart by a Trump impeachment, the Democrats would win a huge wave election in 2020. The GOP is also so dysfunctional that, as it demonstrated, it can’t get its evil legislation passed. That is what comes of basing your election strategy on lies and fantasies.

Impeachment is a long road. They sicced Ken Starr on Clinton in 1994, and didn’t come to a vote in the Senate until 1999. They still lost, and learned. The worst elements of the TPGOP are nowhere near that suicidal.

No one is coming to the rescue except ourselves, should we choose to redeem the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:33:33am

re: #384 Big Beautiful Door

I’m watching basketball today. Go Big Blue!

Just got back from a brisk 5-mile jaunt through the vineyards. Click on picture for panorama shot. I was actually above the spot where this photo was taken, but that is the view of our village:

oberheimbach.de

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:43:36am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just got back from a brisk 5-mile jaunt through the vineyards. Click on picture for panorama shot. I was actually above the spot where this photo was taken, but that is the view of our village:

oberheimbach.de

Nice village ya’ got there. Shame if the collapse of civilization should happen to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:48:06am

re: #387 Decatur Deb

Nice village ya’ got there. Shame if the collapse of civilization should happen to it.

not visible one the photo, but just to the right, is a hillside dotted with a dozen or so wind turbines. The foundations were poured into decommissioned Pershing missile silos.

Had WW3 broken out in the 80’s, our little village and the neighboring hillsides would have been plastered into glowing rubble.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:48:21am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just got back from a brisk 5-mile jaunt through the vineyards. Click on picture for panorama shot. I was actually above the spot where this photo was taken, but that is the view of our village:

oberheimbach.de

Beautiful!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:54:42am

re: #388 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not visible one the photo, but just to the right, is a hillside dotted with a dozen or so wind turbines. The foundations were poured into decommissioned Pershing missile silos.

Had WW3 broken out in the 80’s, our little village and the neighboring hillsides would have been plastered into glowing rubble.

Story has a nice “plowshares” ring.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:55:34am

re: #390 Decatur Deb

Story has a nice “plowshares” ring.

one of the things I like about life in our village

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 6:56:14am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance. It hasn’t been a good 48 hours for Trumpland. Getting creamed on Trump’s signature promise to repeal and replace Obamacare with something better. Ryan’s better way turning out to be tuck tail and running because his plan was so much malware that not even the GOP could buy it.

These so called negotiating masters and policy wonks couldn’t figure out how to make health care work.

To an outsider, this was obvious. Health care is complex. Too complex for someone like Trump who’s never had to worry about health coverage and leaves it to others to figure out how to screw his employees and minimize his costs of providing said care. To him, the most important thing was tax cuts.

For Ryan, it was the same. The tax cuts and gutting Medicare/Medicaid was far more important than improving coverage or care. That’s why the GOP’s plan amendments included gutting essential health benefits to get the extremists on board - and even then they balked.

These people don’t get that people actually want health coverage.

But now, Trump will move on to his next promise. It may be tax reform. It may be infrastructure.

And he will find neither is nearly as easy or as simple as he touted them to be.

In fact, he’ll fall into the same traps. He doesn’t do the hard work of politics. It means working both sides of the aisle. It means meeting with people and figuring out what they need and making it happen. It means…. *gasp* negotiations.

Sadly, it looks like Trump didn’t read his own damned books.

Which makes perfect sense since he didn’t write his own books.

All of his success outside the core “competency” of real estate is a mirage. It’s dumb fucking luck. Because he’s failed at everything else - casinos, football, airlines, liquor, steaks, etc. He’s great at promoting himself and conning people into thinking he’s successful even though he parlayed a real estate inheritance into a “luxury” brand.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:01:18am

re: #339 Nyet

The ad Roger Stone once placed online, via The Smoking Gun.

I certainly won’t kink-shame anyone for anything consensual, but it’s weird for an alt-right guy, ain’t it?

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I’ve been saying for a long time that the use of the word “cuckservative” speaks of epic levels of projection.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:03:31am

So, Trump and the GOP are so worried about radical Islamic moose lambs that they’ll not even turn up an eyebrow over the latest mass shooting here in the US.

1 dead. 15+ injured, some critically. This happened in Cincinnati. Just a bunch of Americans slaughtering their fellow Americans.

Feeding the “tree of Liberty” in an NRA approved usage of ammunition for dispute resolution.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:03:45am

So, I’m up to episode 7 of Iron Fist, and I honestly cannot say it’s keeping me sitting on the edge of my seat. Some bits are sorta, kinda exciting, but compared to the other Netflix MCU series, they’re pretty lame.

Jessica Henwick should be the Iron Fist, and not be Colleen Wing. Her acting is a lot more convincing than Finn Jones’. Jones is good-looking and has some acting chops, but he’d be better as a supporting character.

Also, the comic book trope of the sole heir trying to regain control of his dead father’s corrupted company is just meh. Gotham and Arrow got there first, at least on the TeeVee, and did it better, IMO.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:06:52am

re: #392 lawhawk

Sadly, it looks like Trump didn’t read his own damned books.

Which makes perfect sense since he didn’t write his own books.

All of his success outside the core “competency” of real estate is a mirage. It’s dumb fucking luck. Because he’s failed at everything else - casinos, football, airlines, liquor, steaks, etc. He’s great at promoting himself and conning people into thinking he’s successful even though he parlayed a real estate inheritance into a “luxury” brand.

Doing a business deal is rather different than working a political deal. You can always walk away from a business deal and go find a different partner more compatible with your interests and style.

Or declare bankruptcy and start all over again.

In politics, you have to work with the people who have been elected and are not going to go away for some time. And it is all a a matter of public record. You can make a lot of back-room deals, but at some point it all has to come out for public and press scrutiny.

Scrutiny hands.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:12:40am

Maybe more of them will have an epiphany also

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Ming5000  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:14:10am

How can the ACA be improved?
One shortcoming, according to John S. Toussaint HBR, is that too many people are opting out of coverage and chosing the small penalty. In the article he lists some possible improvements.

What Needs to Change
The exchanges. The most attacked provision of the ACA is the insurance exchanges. The cost of insurance is driven by the actuarial risk of the insured. The fundamental flaw of the ACA insurance exchanges was that people could easily opt in and out.

For example, healthy young people are allowed to opt out of the requirement to pay for insurance by paying a penalty that was extremely low compared to the actual cost of purchasing health insurance — even with government subsidies and the relatively low original premium rates. At this point, there are millions of healthy young people, and others, who prefer to take their chances without insurance. They then jump into the exchange at the long open-enrollment periods if they get sick. This skews the overall risk pool and is leading to some of the exorbitant premium increases this year.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:15:10am

Maureen Dowd tears Donnie a new one.
nytimes.com

She hits Trump where it will hurt the most — his ego — telling him that the GOP are the ones leading him, not the other way around.

Here’s the ending.

That’s why they’re putting up with all your craziness about Russia and wiretapping and unending lies and rattling our allies.

They’re counting on you being a delusional dupe who didn’t even know what was in the bill because you’re sitting around in a bathrobe getting your information from wackadoodles on Fox News and then, as The Post reported, peppering aides with the query, “Is this really a good bill?”

You got played.

It took W. years to smash everything. You’re way ahead of schedule.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:17:12am

re: #392 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance. It hasn’t been a good 48 hours for Trumpland. Getting creamed on Trump’s signature promise to repeal and replace Obamacare with something better. Ryan’s better way turning out to be tuck tail and running because his plan was so much malware that not even the GOP could buy it.

These so called negotiating masters and policy wonks couldn’t figure out how to make health care work.

To an outsider, this was obvious. Health care is complex. Too complex for someone like Trump who’s never had to worry about health coverage and leaves it to others to figure out how to screw his employees and minimize his costs of providing said care. To him, the most important thing was tax cuts.

For Ryan, it was the same. The tax cuts and gutting Medicare/Medicaid was far more important than improving coverage or care. That’s why the GOP’s plan amendments included gutting essential health benefits to get the extremists on board - and even then they balked.

These people don’t get that people actually want health coverage.

But now, Trump will move on to his next promise. It may be tax reform. It may be infrastructure.

And he will find neither is nearly as easy or as simple as he touted them to be.

In fact, he’ll fall into the same traps. He doesn’t do the hard work of politics. It means working both sides of the aisle. It means meeting with people and figuring out what they need and making it happen. It means…. *gasp* negotiations.

Sadly, it looks like Trump didn’t read his own damned books.

Which makes perfect sense since he didn’t write his own books.

All of his success outside the core “competency” of real estate is a mirage. It’s dumb fucking luck. Because he’s failed at everything else - casinos, football, airlines, liquor, steaks, etc. He’s great at promoting himself and conning people into thinking he’s successful even though he parlayed a real estate inheritance into a “luxury” brand.

I’ve certainly enjoyed watching this week’s episode of The Apprentice, The Presidency in which Paul Ryan demonstrated he is the most incompetent Speaker ever, and Trump demonstrates his complete lack of negotiating skills, followed by him throwing both Ryan and the Freedom Caucus under the bus for his own incompetence. I believe this Administration won’t be able to deliver a single signature piece of legislation. Not tax reform, not infrastructure investment, nothing of significance. Because the GOP in general and Trump in particular have no interest in doing the hard work of governing; they are just a bunch of bomb throwers.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:22:32am

re: #400 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve certainly enjoyed watching this week’s episode of The Apprentice, The Presidency in which Paul Ryan demonstrated he is the most incompetent Speaker ever, and Trump demonstrates his complete lack of negotiating skills, followed by him throwing both Ryan and the Freedom Caucus under the bus for his own incompetence. I believe this Administration won’t be able to deliver a single signature piece of legislation. Not tax reform, not infrastructure investment, nothing of significance. Because the GOP in general and Trump in particular have no interest in doing the hard work of governing; they are just a bunch of bomb throwers.

We can only hope they’ll fail.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:24:01am

Nunes weird behavior explained.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:25:35am

re: #401 wheat-dogg

We can only hope they’ll fail.

I’m pretty confident of that. It will limit the amount of damage they do for the next four years.

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John Carter  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:26:40am

re: #362 wheat-dogg

It has awakened from its slumber, and derping profusely.

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So the freedom caucus is the enemy now. I will only watching this play out.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:28:17am

re: #402 darthstar

Nunes weird behavior explained.

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It’s never a good sign when the chairman of the Congressional committee investigating possible collusion between presidential appointees and foreign governments also attended said meetings.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:34:44am

re: #398 Ming5000

How can the ACA be improved?
One shortcoming, according to John S. Toussaint HBR, is that too many people are opting out of coverage and chosing the small penalty. In the article he lists some possible improvements.

We know the ACA won’t get improved anytime soon. Fortunately I think the CBO is correct that the insurance market is stable, thanks to the subsidies that 80% of exchange purchasers get. We’ll have to wait until Democrats regain power to improve the ACA, but even as it is its much better than the pre-Obamacare era, when people in need of medical care couldn’t get insurance at all.

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Ming5000  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:37:09am

re: #406 Big Beautiful Door

The only other improvement mentioned:

Medicaid expansion. To put the exchanges in perspective, over 4 million of the newly insured people enrolled through the exchanges, but 6.5 million of those with coverage were due to Medicaid expansion. There are 20 states that have opted to not accept federal funding to expand Medicaid. It is estimated that 3 million more people could be covered if these states would expand Medicaid. The arguments about whether to expand rage on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:39:46am

re: #406 Big Beautiful Door

We know the ACA won’t get improved anytime soon. Fortunately I think the CBO is correct that the insurance market is stable, thanks to the subsidies that 80% of exchange purchasers get. We’ll have to wait until Democrats regain power to improve the ACA, but even as it is its much better than the pre-Obamacare era, when people in need of medical care couldn’t get insurance at all.

And when people who had conditions which could have been treated with a few hundred dollars’ worth of therapy or meds had to go into emergency rooms - for operations costing thousands. Which they could not afford, resulting in bankruptcy for them and higher insurance costs for the rest.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:40:45am

re: #407 Ming5000

The only other improvement mentioned:

And most of those I bet are in just two states, Texas and Florida.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:42:52am

Curiosity made me look, each on the NW corner of the intersection. (google map street view)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:44:37am

re: #385 Decatur Deb

Impeachment is a long road. They sicced Ken Starr on Clinton in 1994, and didn’t come to a vote in the Senate until 1999. They still lost, and learned. The worst elements of the TPGOP are nowhere near that suicidal.

No one is coming to the rescue except ourselves, should we choose to redeem the country.

Yeah, with Clinton they were looking for something that wasn’t there. If there is no there there then you search forever and never find it. I think that situation is a lot different than the one we have with Hair Furor and the court of the orange king. Much seem to point to some there there. And it is seeming that some of the there was recorded (except for an 18 min gap in the middle, I kid).

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nines09  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:48:18am

But both sides are the same. Both sides. No difference. All the same. What’s the big deal.

Now understand there are thousands of St. John the Baptist Parishes around the nation. Towns with different names, different states. Freeing up the machines to eat us all.

And then throw in the GOP/TRUMP suicide AHCA bill. MAGA.
A scary read. One I’ve read far too often.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:53:35am

re: #402 darthstar

Nunes weird behavior explained.

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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:56:51am

re: #362 wheat-dogg

It has awakened from its slumber, and derping profusely.

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Where did they come up with “Freedom Caucus?” Every other caucus group name describes exactly what they represent, but this bunch of bozos usurps FREEDOM for their name? What FREEDOM do they exactly represent?

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:57:00am

re: #410 FormerDirtDart

Curiosity made me look, each on the NW corner of the intersection. (google map street view)

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We lost the one outdoor pay phone in El Granada last year.

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Skandal  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:59:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2017 • 7:59:36am

re: #415 darthstar

We lost the one outdoor pay phone in El Granada last year.

There’s still quite a few left in Ostrava. About 20 or 30 by my count. Ostrava is a city with a population of about 300,000 - they can be found all over. There’s one about a five minute walk from where I live.

That being said, yeah, pretty much everyone here has a mobile phone. It’s almost universal.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:00:11am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:00:12am

re: #410 FormerDirtDart

Curiosity made me look, each on the NW corner of the intersection. (google map street view)

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Now I’m trying to remember if I have the film “Phone Booth” on Blu-Ray to watch…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:05:08am

re: #414 BeachDem

Where did they come up with “Freedom Caucus?” Every other caucus group name describes exactly what they represent, but this bunch of bozos usurps FREEDOM for their name? What FREEDOM do they exactly represent?

They believe in the freedom of individuals to negotiate with employers, banks and insurance companies one-to-one for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services with no pesky government or collective unions to restrict their God-given Freedom of Choice.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:07:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:10:14am

re: #416 Skandal

[Trump] seriously tried to invoice Germany for $374 billion because he doesn’t understand how NATO funding works.

The NATO Bill, like The Wall and The Muslim Ban, are first and foremost symbolic gestures to show Americans that their President is resolved to show how he strives to put America First.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:10:17am

re: #416 Skandal

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I hope the New Leader Of The Free World Angela Merkel stiffs him and refuses to pay the bill.

What would be more fitting is if she has the German Government bill Trump for the rent owed by the American Government for all the US Military installations in Germany!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:11:45am

re: #423 Joe Bacon

I hope the New Leader Of The Free World Angela Merkel stiffs him and refuses to pay the bill.

Ignoring an invoice that has no legal or political substance is not “stiffing”.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:14:44am

re: #424 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ignoring an invoice that has no legal or political substance is not “stiffing”.

Well, I hope she doesn’t tip him.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:15:08am

re: #421 Joe Bacon

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:15:56am

Of course, President Pee Pee is a White Pawn!

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:18:58am
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Skip Intro  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:23:35am

re: #416 Skandal

Was the bill to be paid to the Trump Foundation? I’ll be surprised if it wasn’t.

Maybe that’s why the yam had the QVC jewelry seller sitting next to Merkel.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:28:52am
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stpaulbear  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:30:31am

re: #399 wheat-dogg

Maureen Dowd tears Donnie a new one.
nytimes.com

She hits Trump where it will hurt the most — his ego — telling him that the GOP are the ones leading him, not the other way around.

Here’s the ending.

I’m more impressed by the little twist of the knife that she does by referencing the ‘Time’ interview in the very last line:

And I can say you’re doing badly, because I’m a columnist, and you’re not. Say hello to everybody, O.K.?

That’s personal, and it draws blood.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:33:02am
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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:34:19am
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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:39:47am

re: #431 stpaulbear

I’m more impressed by the little twist of the knife that she does by referencing the ‘Time’ interview in the very last line:

That’s personal, and it draws blood.

I could care less about Maureen Dowd.

She’s still the snarky shrew who endlessly trashed Hillary, Bill, Al Gore and Obama for over 25 years.

And I remember how she was one of the Four Horsemen of the Impeachment Apocalypse along with Michael Kelly, Tim Russert and Tweety Matthews all demanding Bill Clinton’s head during the Clinton Penis Hunt!

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:43:45am
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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:47:59am
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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:48:10am

bbc.com

Most of the marches were illegal, organised without official permission.

Why does the BBC repeat the official Russian line? Hmmm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:48:54am

re: #435 darthstar

The FBI Says It Can’t Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot]

and the reason that smoking pot is a seen as a hindrance to getting a security clearance, is that it is illegal, and being a pot smoker makes one vulnerable to blackmail and compromising one’s clearance…if only it were not so, well, illegal in the first place…

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:50:01am

Seeing numerous reports like these..

Ramping up the precision air and ground game against ISIS is fine with me. But the idea of a less discriminate ROE just sickens me, ruins the hearts of our war fighters and makes enemies like few things can. Kinda surprised the guys at the Pentagon rolled over so easily. What happens when Trump wants to carpet bomb a city? Or worse?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:50:04am

re: #437 Nyet

bbc.com

Why does the BBC repeat the official Russian line? Hmmm.

They were illegal. Does not mean that banning them was a defensible act in the first place. But they really do not go into that in the article.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:51:13am

re: #440 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They were illegal.

Says who? Oh wait, Putin’s Russia.

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 8:58:17am

re: #355 Nyet

Not on the international stage.

If we don’t get our shit together in this country, we aren’t going to be much help to the international community.

Right now those idiots Decatur Deb is talking about do not care about anyone outside this country. Well, except for showing them we are doing stupid shit like building up an already big military, threatening NATO, building a wall, economic isolation, on and on.

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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:02:31am

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:09:44am

re: #443 BeachDem

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

He could almost get away with it in Latin.

blogs.transparent.com

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:10:36am

re: #443 BeachDem

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

Here are the facts that Rinse Prick-us ignores!

My payroll deduction for Kaiser Permanente has gone DOWN.
My copays for services has gone DOWN
My lab tests now cost ZERO
My copays for prescriptions has gone DOWN
My copays for glucose meters is now ZERO
My copays for test strips and lances has gone DOWN
My copays for Humira IV’s has gone DOWN
Kaiser EXPANDED additional services for me which include education classes, weight control, sleep monitoring, and they even offer a meal service if I’m homebound.

And I have all of these changes thanks to the ACA!

Repeal ACA and you’re not only throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, you’re also reducing the benefit packages that millions of people receive through their employers!

Also—since the ACA mandated that Members of Congress had to buy their health insurance from the exchanges, that would also take their health coverage away as well!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:10:40am

This take on Trump’s half-assing his job got far too little attention:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:10:54am

re: #443 BeachDem

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

Reince fail English? That’s unpossible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:12:01am

re: #443 BeachDem

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

Not to be pedantic, but I think you meant to say “Not only are YOU wrong”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:13:22am

re: #445 Joe Bacon

Here are the facts that Rinse Prick-us ignores!

My payroll deduction for Kaiser Permanente has gone DOWN.
My copays for services has gone DOWN
My lab tests now cost ZERO
My copays for prescriptions has gone DOWN
My copays for glucose meters is now ZERO
My copays for test strips and lances has gone DOWN
My copays for Humira IV’s has gone DOWN
Kaiser EXPANDED additional services for me which include education classes, weight control, sleep monitoring, and they even offer a meal service if I’m homebound.

And I have all of these changes thanks to the ACA!

Repeal ACA and you’re not only throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, you’re also reducing the benefit packages that millions of people receive through their employers!

Also—since the ACA mandated that Members of Congress had to buy their health insurance from the exchanges, that would also take their health coverage away as well!

I have seen so many people who credit ACA with saving their lives too. And there are millions of Americans like myself with pre-existing conditions that can’t be denied coverage anymore because of it. I’ve been volunteering for a former Democratic Congressman who is presently running for governor of Virginia from a heavily Republican district who voted for ACA knowing it would cost him his seat. I got to thank him personally on Friday night for his vote. Preibus can go fuck himself.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:15:10am

re: #442 ObserverArt

If we don’t get our shit together in this country, we aren’t going to be much help to the international community.

Right now those idiots Decatur Deb is talking about do not care about anyone outside this country. Well, except for showing them we are doing stupid shit like building up an already big military, threatening NATO, building a wall, economic isolation, on and on.

I could easily see a pact of developed nations formed in a few years’ time to counter US chaotic behavior. The rump UN could foster it (the RWNJ fantasy) if Trump pulls us out (the old JBS wet dream).

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:15:16am

re: #443 BeachDem

“Well, look, Obamacare is imploding and it is exploding and every other adjective you can provide,” Priebus insisted.

Not only are your wrong, Reince, but you obviously don’t know your parts of speech.

Pedants are us.

I think, formally, one could interpret those as (verbal) adjectives.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:16:46am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Happy, the next time you see Tom Perrillo please tell him that I’m grateful that he stood up for Obamacare!

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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:17:41am

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the head of the House Freedom Caucus, said Republicans need Schumer to be a “willing partner” on repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

Uh huh—yeah—that’s gonna happen, Marky Mark—when pigs fly. What a maroon.

Meadows—against gay marriage, against any form of gun restrictions, voted against Sandy relief, championed the shutdown, for a flat tax—yeah—the Dems should certainly be his “willing partner.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:18:26am

re: #445 Joe Bacon

Here are the facts that Rinse Prick-us ignores!

My payroll deduction for Kaiser Permanente has gone DOWN.
My copays for services has gone DOWN
My lab tests now cost ZERO
My copays for prescriptions has gone DOWN
My copays for glucose meters is now ZERO
My copays for test strips and lances has gone DOWN
My copays for Humira IV’s has gone DOWN
Kaiser EXPANDED additional services for me which include education classes, weight control, sleep monitoring, and they even offer a meal service if I’m homebound.

And I have all of these changes thanks to the ACA!

Repeal ACA and you’re not only throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, you’re also reducing the benefit packages that millions of people receive through their employers!

Also—since the ACA mandated that Members of Congress had to buy their health insurance from the exchanges, that would also take their health coverage away as well!

If I remember the Navigator training, any lifetime cap you might face also went away.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:18:28am

re: #452 Joe Bacon

Happy, the next time you see Tom Perrillo please tell him that I’m grateful that he stood up for Obamacare!

I will. My Dad really enjoyed his speech as well. What I loved about Tom’s speech is that it talked about an inclusive Virginia which really is the total opposite of what Corey Stewart wants and what Ed Gillespie is pandering to.

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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:18:37am

re: #448 Blind Frog Belly White

Not to be pedantic, but I think you meant to say “Not only are YOU wrong”

Hoisted by my own pe(dan)tard.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:19:15am

re: #453 BeachDem

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the head of the House Freedom Caucus, said Republicans need Schumer to be a “willing partner” on repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

Uh huh—yeah—that’s gonna happen, Marky Mark—when pigs fly. What a maroon.

Meadows—against gay marriage, against any form of gun restrictions, voted against Sandy relief, championed the shutdown, for a flat tax—yeah—the Dems should certainly be his “willing partner.”

Hahahaha that’s a good one Meadows.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:19:47am

re: #456 BeachDem

home.pacific.net.au

Muphry’s Law is the editorial application of the better-known Murphy’s Law. Muphry’s Law dictates that (a) if you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written; (b) if an author thanks you in a book for your editing or proofreading, there will be mistakes in the book; (c) the stronger the sentiment expressed in (a) and (b), the greater the fault; (d) any book devoted to editing or style will be internally inconsistent.

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BigPapa  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:20:31am

85% of Cernovich followers trust RT more than US news:

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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:21:32am

re: #458 Nyet

home.pacific.net.au

You really know how to hurt a person.
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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:22:08am

re: #459 BigPapa

85% of Cernovich followers trust RT more than US news:

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No surprise there.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:22:14am

re: #459 BigPapa

85% of Cernovich followers trust RT more than US news:

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Happens if 85% of your followers are Russian bots. //sarc

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:22:50am

re: #421 Joe Bacon

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Note too the typo. He had Osama bin Laden on his mind when he typed Obama.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:22:53am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

No surprise there.

No, but the 50% tolerance for single payer is nice.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:23:20am

re: #459 BigPapa

What does that say about Twitter polling? Can be cheerfully ignored as useless.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:24:03am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

No, but the 50% tolerance for single payer is nice.

My observations with right wing populists is they support a certain amount of government if they think it will benefit them.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:24:28am

re: #463 lawhawk

Note too the typo. He had Osama bin Laden on his mind when he typed Obama.

To be fair a and s are neighbors on the keyboard, so it could be as easily an “innocent” typo.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:27:38am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

My observations with right wing populists is they support a certain amount of government if they think it will benefit them.

Yes.

Trump’s brand is first of all nationalist. The rest are details. He could be a (nationalist) socialist and still be a right-wing populist douche getting support of millions.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:27:48am

re: #426 FormerDirtDart

This is the critical thing. It’s one thing to go play golf. Eisenhower did it all the time. But he did it as a way to play politics with those he was playing with. Members of Congress, etc., would play rounds where they’d talk politics, do deals, etc.

Who is Trump playing with? That’d seem like an important detail to highlight.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:30:26am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

My observations with right wing populists is they support a certain amount of government if they think it will benefit them.

Happy if you could listen to the calls we take at Social Security’s 800# you’d be amazed to hear a bunch of callers receiving benefits who love to shoot their mouths off about how they hate The Government!

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Skip Intro  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:31:59am

re: #416 Skandal

Here’s a copy of the bill.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:32:30am

re: #468 Nyet

Yes.

Trump’s brand is first of all nationalist. The rest are details. He could be a (nationalist) socialist and still be a right-wing populist douche getting support of millions.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:33:08am

re: #470 Joe Bacon

Happy if you could listen to the calls we take at Social Security’s 800# you’d be amazed to hear a bunch of callers receiving benefits who love to shoot their mouths off about how they hate The Government!

Doesn’t surprise me. I reckon a lot of them resent that other people get the same benefits too and that really is the cornerstone of right wing populism.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:33:50am

It’s that bit of right wing populism that dishonest right wing hacks like NRO or Shapiro get to claim that it’s not true “conservatism” which is a load of shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:34:18am

re: #470 Joe Bacon

Happy if you could listen to the calls we take at Social Security’s 800# you’d be amazed to hear a bunch of callers receiving benefits who love to shoot their mouths off about how they hate The Government!

Remember the famous Tea Partier’s “Keep your government hands off my Medicare!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:36:37am

re: #474 HappyWarrior

It’s that bit of right wing populism that dishonest right wing hacks like NRO or Shapiro get to claim that it’s not true “conservatism” which is a load of shit.

In the end, the GOP will try to walk away and attempt to scrape Trump off its shoes and insist he was not a True Conservative.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:37:53am

So he loaded up everyone, went to his golf course (raining & cold) and then proceeded to watch golf on the TV.

Very lonely man

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:37:55am

re: #476 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We’ll see how well that works out as the next round of polls come out on presidential approval among the self identifying GOPers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:38:09am

re: #476 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the end, the GOP will try to walk away and attempt to scrape Trump off its shoes and insist he was not a True Conservative.

They would have had more success with that bit of revisionism had he lost.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:39:33am

re: #479 HappyWarrior

They would have had more success with that bit of revisionism had he lost.

Yeah, so much winning, they are already getting sick of it…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:39:50am

re: #478 lawhawk

We’ll see how well that works out as the next round of polls come out on presidential approval among the self identifying GOPers.

Well it’s the same thing with Bush. They brushed him off as not a real conservative but even when Bush hit his lows, he still had his highest approval among self identified conservatives and Republicans. The conservative movement really does remind me a lot of the communist movements in that they will champion someone to death when they’re in power or on the rise but as soon as it becomes politically convenient to discard them, they will.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:40:53am

re: #480 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, so much winning, they are already getting sick of it…

I’ve been joking that Trump meant there would be so much whining and that’s what we would be sick of.

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stpaulbear  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:47:46am

re: #480 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, so much winning, they are already getting sick of it…

Trump is going to be like Jesse Ventura on fast forward. It was pretty obvious that Jesse wanted to walk away from the governorship after a couple of years. At least when he won by accident he realized that he had an important job that he should try to take seriously for a while.

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:48:36am

re: #469 lawhawk

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This is the critical thing. It’s one thing to go play golf. Eisenhower did it all the time. But he did it as a way to play politics with those he was playing with. Members of Congress, etc., would play rounds where they’d talk politics, do deals, etc.

Who is Trump playing with? That’d seem like an important detail to highlight.

I’m wondering if he might just be out there on the golf course by himself or with a few close friends (family) that he trusts.

I’m wondering if the golf is escapism for him. And he may just be escaping himself.

Maybe he is up against the wall so to say with realization he got himself in deep with this whole President thing. And now he realizes he isn’t cut out for it, doesn’t know what the hell he is doing, is fucking shit up and is being seen more and more as a clown…a failed man.

So the minute he can get out on the “campaign trail” for accolades, hit the golf course to pound the ball around, hang out at Trump clubs with his family he’s not in the oval office, which may now be his hell hole.

It may all be to escape the reality that he fucked up. But, he has an ego that will never admit it.

Who knows, if it gets bad enough for him, he may actually seek a way out that doesn’t ding his name but gets him out of office.

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stpaulbear  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:50:21am
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BeachDem  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:52:25am

re: #485 stpaulbear

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You can just feel the economic anxiety from here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:53:34am

re: #486 BeachDem

You can just feel the economic anxiety from here.

Trump sold himself as the anti-politician, which is why he is still allowed to flaunt every precept and precedent of governing, diplomacy and even basic human decency.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:54:08am

re: #485 stpaulbear

I wish those people all the best suffering this world can offer.

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:54:42am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

So he loaded up everyone, went to his golf course (raining & cold) and then proceeded to watch golf on the TV.

Very lonely man

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Interesting. I just posted about him wanting to escape. With your comment and the tweet and images, he may be hitting a state of depression. Nothing is making him feel good right now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:55:40am

re: #483 stpaulbear

rump is going to be like Jesse Ventura on fast forward. It was pretty obvious that Jesse wanted to walk away from the governorship after a couple of years. At least when he won by accident he realized that he had an important job that he should try to take seriously for a while.

For the 8 years when I lived up there I didn’t get much of a read on the Ventura tenure. I do know some of the pepole at my old haunt voted for him; I didn’t spend all that much time doing any research as to what he did or did not do. I do know what he did on gun rights with his “shall issue” law when he had issues getting a permit for his firearm when he was mayor and it sounded pretty common sense to me; other than that everything else is a mystery. I do recall him saying he was going to turn over his last term in office to the Vice-Govenor; I guess he got tired/fed-up of all the attacks and the usual games of politics-I just don’t know.

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Jay C  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:55:48am

re: #453 BeachDem

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the head of the House Freedom Caucus, said Republicans need Schumer to be a “willing partner” on repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

Uh huh—yeah—that’s gonna happen, Marky Mark—when pigs fly. What a maroon.

Meadows—against gay marriage, against any form of gun restrictions, voted against Sandy relief, championed the shutdown, for a flat tax—yeah—the Dems should certainly be his “willing partner.”

What is it with these House GOPers and Chuck Schumer? Shouldn’t he first and foremost be looking across the aisle in his own Chamber for legislative “partners”? Or is that unacceptable, necessitating having to work with the She-Devil Of San Francisco and her infernal minions?*

And in any case: “voted against Sandy relief”? As we say here on the nether bank of the Hudson: “Fuggedaboudit!”. Sen. Schumer may have some flaws: a short memory isn’t one of them.

*ADD: I think that may be it: I saw an ad on dKos re the race in GA-06 to replace Tom Price: the GA GOP has apparently poured tons of money into the campaign against Jon Ossoff (the Dem): including ads prominently linking him to Nancy Pelosi and “San Francisco values” or whatever…

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:57:42am

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:57:52am

sledgehammer is one of my favorites

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:58:18am

re: #485 stpaulbear

Now that’s some whacked out logic there, I’ll tell ya…kinda reminds me of this:

Star Trek - Everything Harry tells you is a Lie

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:58:23am

What are we talking about today?

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2017 • 9:58:36am

re: #489 ObserverArt

Interesting. I just posted about him wanting to escape. With your comment and the tweet and images, he may be hitting a state of depression. Nothing is making him feel good right now.

He needs to invite Mitt back for dinner so he can relive one of his highs, this time for the meatloaf, maybe.

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:00:01am

re: #485 stpaulbear

Newark, Ohio

40 miles east of Columbus. 100 years back in time.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:08:32am

LOCK HIM UP!

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BigPapa  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:09:22am

re: #465 Eric The Fruit Bat

What does that say about Twitter polling? Can be cheerfully ignored as useless.

It says more about Cernovich’s base more than anything: they prefer any strongman white male over an actual ideology.

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Jay C  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:09:38am

re: #484 ObserverArt

Who knows, if it gets bad enough for him, he may actually seek a way out that doesn’t ding his name but gets him out of office.

SRSLY? And just how the hell would he manage that? About the only scenario I can imagine for “Trumpexit” that doesn’t have a toxic dumpster-fire plume of FAIL and DISGRACE attached might be one that’s health-related. A convenient “heart attack”, a “regretful” resignation, teary goodbyes all around in the Oval Office, and The Donald can trundle off to Mar-A-Lago ­à la Citizen Kane: to spend his sunset years basking in his cultists’ adulation and counting his rubles: leaving Mike Pence and the rest of the GOP to mop up his mess.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:13:46am

words matter

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:14:14am

re: #399 wheat-dogg

As Head Smearleader against the Clintons, she played a significant role in getting Numpty Dumpty into the White House.
She should go fuck herself.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:15:00am

Cleaning out the garage beverage fridge now. Oh look here is a bottle of Pilsner Urquell! We can’t keep that over Passover. I guess I will have to drink it right now.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:16:00am
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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:16:24am

re: #500 Jay C

SRSLY? And just how the hell would he manage that? About the only scenario I can imagine for “Trumpexit” that doesn’t have a toxic dumpster-fire plume of FAIL and DISGRACE attached might be one that’s health-related. A convenient “heart attack”, a “regretful” resignation, teary goodbyes all around in the Oval Office, and The Donald can trundle off to Mar-A-Lago ­à la Citizen Kane: to spend his sunset years basking in his cultists’ adulation and counting his rubles - and leaving Mike Pence and the rest of the GOP to mop up his mess.

Health could very well be his out.

For the health of this country!

By the way, I am not making any declarations, just viewing what Trump may be doing. He sure does seem to like getting away from a job you can never get away from.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:16:32am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:17:07am
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darthstar  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:19:18am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:19:27am

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

Did you ever get the china? Do you love it?

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:22:43am

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

Cleaning out the garage beverage fridge now. Oh look here is a bottle of Pilsner Urquell! We can’t keep that over Passover. I guess I will have to drink it right now.

You live such a hard life!

:)

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:26:41am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:29:11am

re: #511 Birth Control Works

trying to get a message across to my ex was like trying to post a letter through a mail slot above a door: if it was not insistent enough, she would ignore it, if it was too insistent, she would reject it and snap back without listening.

I gave up trying after a while.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:29:43am

re: #511 Birth Control Works

I could not agree more. Language and intonation are extremely important.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:30:00am

re: #434 Joe Bacon

I could care less about Maureen Dowd.

She’s still the snarky shrew who endlessly trashed Hillary, Bill, Al Gore and Obama for over 25 years.

And I remember how she was one of the Four Horsemen of the Impeachment Apocalypse along with Michael Kelly, Tim Russert and Tweety Matthews all demanding Bill Clinton’s head during the Clinton Penis Hunt!

Yes! That asshole helped get Trumpty Numpty elected.

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Nyet  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:32:13am

re: #513 PhillyPretzel

I could not agree more. Language and intonation are extremely important.

YES YOU ARE RIGHT

/

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:34:45am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:35:30am

OT: Conspicuous by its absence….

It just occurred to me that the Fox Network does not run an Evening News shows like the legacy networks do during the evening hours. Its even more fascinating since we all know that Fox News (delivered by cable/satellite) gets an inordinate amount of coverage for is so-called “Fair and Balanced” and “We Report-You Decide” taglines, yet with more people cutting the code, they have no hard news broadcast on their OTA network.

I’m going to connect my antenna to my TV this week and see if Fox is broadcasting anything on the subchannels-either I’m missing something, or Fox is missing something….

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:35:49am

re: #509 Stanley Sea

Did you ever get the china? Do you love it?

Yes, we will be using it for the Passover seder!

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:36:29am

re: #517 Eric The Fruit Bat

OT: Conspicuous by its absence….

It just occurred to me that the Fox Network does not run an Evening news shows like the legacy networks do during the evening hours. Its even more fascinating since we all know that Fox News (delivered by cable/satellite) gets an inordinate amount of coverage for is so-called “Fair and Balanced” and “We Report-You Decide” taglines, yet with more people cutting the code, they have no hard news broadcast on their OTA network.

I’m going to connect my antenna to my TV this week and see if Fox is broadcasting anything on the subchannels-either I’m missing something, or Fox is missing something….

ftfy

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:37:18am

re: #515 Nyet

And Jonathan Swift was the master of satire. en.wikipedia.org

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BigPapa  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:39:43am

re: #511 Birth Control Works

Having been married for some time and through marriage communication classes with my wife - this seems to be true.

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ckkatz  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:43:10am

Heh.. Lots of cool things to follow up on in yet another great LGF discussion. Thanks!

Currently listening to Chumbawumba which I had not heard of before. I’m not into anarchy, but their irreverent attitude toward self-congratulatory authority is definitely appreciated. Now on to read the T. R. Ramachandran tweetstorm mentioned earlier.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:43:11am

Typical…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:45:28am

re: #523 FormerDirtDart

Scott Pruitt on California’s right to set its own fuel standards: “That’s something we’re going to be evaluating”:

Conservatives love Red States’ Rights, not Blue.

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:45:33am

re: #522 ckkatz

Heh.. Lots of cool things to follow up on in yet another great LGF discussion. Thanks!

Currently listening to Chumbawumba which I had not heard of before. I’m not into anarchy, but their irreverent attitude toward self-congratulatory authority is definitely appreciated. Now on to read the T. R. Ramachandran tweetstorm mentioned earlier.

I found this video the other day - They Might Be Giants cover Chumbawamba for AV Club. A very happy singalong it is…

They Might Be Giants covers Chumbawamba

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:46:22am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:47:03am

re: #519 Birth Control Works

Now now, let’s not rush into giving a dog a bad name hanging it so quickly even though it’s so tempting to do so in the case of Fox News. Let’s face it, we all know that Fox News’ core demographic is dying off, they just got through a purging of the brains of the culture and operation, the two halves of the Fox News operation are probably at war with each other (hard news/opinion) and the place is probably still a hostile work environment for its female employees.

Let’s just sit back and take a clue for the Lord Almighty….

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:48:55am

re: #526 FormerDirtDart

“Do Not Worry.” Now I am really worried.

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Jay C  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:49:39am

re: #523 FormerDirtDart

re: #524 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Isn’t this a matter of “settled law” by now? California has had its own (stricter) emissions and (presumably) fuel-economy standards since the 1970s.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:49:58am

re: #471 Skip Intro

Here’s a copy of the bill.

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Too neatly written =O

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Skip Intro  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:51:51am

re: #530 William Lewis

Too neatly written =O

I think that’s Ivanka’s handwriting. She passed the note to Merkel.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:53:01am

re: #523 FormerDirtDart

Considering that it’s settled law that states can set their own tougher standards, and many states have voluntarily adopted the CA standards, Pruitt’s looking to go after California for invoking it’s 10th Amendment solution for environmental protection?

Everyone downwind thanks CA for doing so. That includes Oklahoma.

The GOP would love to see a return to the bad old days pre-EPA, where rivers went up in flames, the air was so thick you could cut it with a knife, and people routinely died from smog and respiratory distress from toxic air.

These fuckers don’t care; there’s profits for corporate masters to be made on the backs and burdens of everyone else.

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Jay C  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:53:53am

re: #531 Skip Intro

I think that’s Ivanka’s handwriting. She passed the note to Merkel.

Written on the back of a 15%-off coupon for the Ivanka Trump Boutique.

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:56:19am

re: #529 Jay C

Isn’t this a matter of “settled law” by now? California has had its own (stricter) emissions and (presumably) fuel-economy standards since the 1970s.

And many auto manufacturers follow those standards because so many cars are sold in California.

And there is your key as to why they are messing with California fuel standards. They are more controlled by California than by the Feds even thought the Feds seemed to go along with them because it was cleaning the air, saving money, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:57:48am

re: #534 ObserverArt

And many auto manufacturers follow those standards because so many cars are sold in California.

Like Texas and its school books, except in reverse…

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 10:59:10am

re: #535 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like Texas and its school books, except in reverse…

Yep. And another example: New York City Fire Codes.

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steve_davis  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:02:10am

re: #117 bratwurst

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I am confident this charming fellow has a bright future ahead of him elsewhere.

CNN talkie-flunkie

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:11:10am

re: #527 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now now, let’s not rush into giving a dog a bad name hanging it so quickly even though it’s so tempting to do so in the case of Fox News. Let’s face it, we all know that Fox News’ core demographic is dying off, they just got through a purging of the brains of the culture and operation, the two halves of the Fox News operation are probably at war with each other (hard news/opinion) and the place is probably still a hostile work environment for its female employees.

Let’s just sit back and take a clue for the Lord Almighty….

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but I’m not a big fan of popcorn. Is that blasphemous?

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Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:12:24am

re: #521 BigPapa

Having been married for some time and through marriage communication classes with my wife - this seems to be true.

I try to remember that my husband is more important to me than any boss, co-worker or customer.

I should show him more respect than I show those people.

540
Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:13:13am

re: #506 Birth Control Works

Pitpulls in PJ’s made my day.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:14:14am

re: #538 Birth Control Works

Then maybe ObserverArt can whip up an suitable image of him consuming your favorite snack? Name it and he can probably do it….

542
Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:15:03am

re: #541 Eric The Fruit Bat

Then maybe ObserverArt can whip up an suitable image of him consuming your favorite snack? Name it and he can probably do it….

teehee.

How about Jesus drinking a starbucks and smoking weed.

That would be my dream.

543
Birth Control Works  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:15:54am

I have to leave, Chinese Foot Massage scheduled in a few.

bblater.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:19:34am

The Law of Unintended Consequences over Hair Furor’s Wall rears its ugly head in a very spectacular way….

Bloomberg: Trump’s Wall Is 30 Feet of Scary Politics for Builders

Hundreds of companies have been eyeing work on President Donald Trump’s 30-foot border wall with Mexico. Some, however, won’t touch it with a 10-foot pole.

Mexican cement giant Cemex SAB won’t participate, though it is well positioned to profit with plants on both sides of the border.

Neither will Vinci SA, a big French engineering company, after Chief Executive Officer Xavier Huillard cited the “sensitivities” of employees. Emmanuel Macron, frontrunner for the French presidency, has warned LafargeHolcim Ltd., the world’s largest cement maker, to steer clear. Union leaders at that company have branded the wall undemocratic.

And Democratic lawmakers in California — the state that, for many, stands for everything Trump doesn’t — have gone further, threatening to cut ties with companies that work on the project.

“If they participate in something so harmful to California’s economy and environment as a wall, then we don’t want to do business with them,” said state Senator Ricardo Lara, who introduced legislation that would blackball them from government contracts.

There is little doubt that if Congress finds as much as $25 billion to construct the wall, someone will happily take it. But increasingly, major corporations are weighing potential profit against political costs.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:19:36am

Afternoon Lizardim.

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steve_davis  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:19:57am

re: #169 CleverToad

We now interrupt this broadcast for an unscheduled off-topic message: it is March 25, and the roads on the east side of Rocky Mountain National Park are bone dry, with an alarming small amount of snow to be seen. Trail Ridge Road is still closed, at least, but the signs at Bear Lake have been changed from
“The ice is beginning to melt and thin: if you try to walk on it, you may fall in”
to
“…you WILL fall in.”

This is not a good thing. Not that the scenery wasn’t lovely, but it’s supposed to be a lot whiter at this time of the year.

Oh, and I turned 61 today. This is not a good thing either.
The spousal unit who turned 62 in February was able to buy his lifetime parklands pass for $10. I’ve heard they are expecting to raise the rate to $80 later this year, but the pass gets you into every recreational facility run by six or seven Federal agencies, including national parks, national monuments, BLM site, et alia. It’s still a bargain.

We now return you to politics, music, pizza, puns and whatever other shenanigans are in progress, while I go back and try to catch up on the last two threads.

“Oh and I turned 61 today. This is not a good thing either.”

It’s assuredly a helluva lot better than you not turning 61 today.

547
makeitstop  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:21:51am

re: #169 CleverToad

Oh, and I turned 61 today. This is not a good thing either.

Happy Birthday!

548
Stanley Sea  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:22:47am
549
FormerDirtDart  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:24:31am
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thedopefishlives  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:25:41am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart

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What was good about this week? The fact that they all still have jobs?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:27:21am

re: #550 thedopefishlives

What was good about this week? The fact that they all still have jobs?

Not all.

nytimes.com

552
thedopefishlives  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:29:20am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

Not all.

nytimes.com

Ha! Right then!

553
Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:31:43am

re: #542 Birth Control Works

Well, I got one of the two….

554
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:34:30am

re: #553 Eric The Fruit Bat

Well, I got one of the two….

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I had a wierd dream about young Fidel Castro doing an ad for filter cigarettes, but if you look closely, you can see that they were not tobacco cigarettes…

555
CleverToad  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:35:10am

re: #546 steve_davis

“Oh and I turned 61 today. This is not a good thing either.”

It’s assuredly a helluva lot better than you not turning 61 today.

True, that!
Given the options, I’ll take this one. And a day that includes mountains and cheesecake is a pretty good one, on the whole.

556
Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:39:37am

New meme for your enjoyment….

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ObserverArt  Mar 26, 2017 • 11:47:08am

re: #542 Birth Control Works

teehee.

How about Jesus drinking a starbucks and smoking weed.

That would be my dream.

Easy!

Jesus Chillin’.

Me, I’m just chilling with a big spliff from my garden and a nice cup of Starbucks who are just magic with my beans. And oh yeah, watching U.S. Politics. I didn’t create politics you know. That is of the devil! I am fascinated though. Especially with that bunk about the U.S. being founded on Christian Ideals. Where did you Republicans come up with that shit?

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