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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:19:39pm

Flynn. The National Enquirer cover identifying him as the Russian Spy that the President had exposed is the giveaway.

First to flip get the top bunk!

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:20:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:21:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:22:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:23:42pm
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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:26:51pm

Trump cronies flipping on Trump only matters if the DOJ is actively pursuing a case and Sessions doesn’t muck things up.

Assuming that Sessions isn’t that idiotic (not a given), here’s my odds on cutting a deal and flipping:

Manafort: 2-1. This is a guy who is by definition a mercenary. He wont go down with the ship and will sell out to save himself.

Stone: no odds. This guy is an oddball and a full blown wackaloon. He’s made enough allegations that if sustained by actual evidence, would put him away for a long time. Cutting a deal might be in his best interest, but he’s not working with a full deck (or he’s playing crazy-brave all while cutting a deal before he gets sunk).

Pence: 8-1. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. He’s probably thinking he’s far enough removed from Trump to not have to worry.

Jared 15-1: Doesn’t think he’s doing anything wrong.

Ivanka 12-1: Complicit. It’s not just a perfume scent.

Bannon 5-1: Another mercenary, but he’s a true believer who might go down with the ship thinking he did nothing wrong.

Donny Trump no odds: Again, not the sharpest tool in the shed. He doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He’ll fight whatever comes his way, even though he’ll go down with the ship. He’ll take the rest of the country with him. He’s that vain.

Giuliani: 10-1. He might be smart enough to understand the severity of his situation, but doesn’t think it’ll happen to him.

Tillerson: 7-5. Probably didn’t do anything criminal regarding the Trump-Russia stuff, but might cut a deal or turn state’s evidence. He’s got grandkids to think of.

UPDATE:

Even though Sessions is Attorney General, he too could turn on Trump and give evidence to avoid a sticky situation. His odds are 18-1. Again, he might think he’ll avoid the worst of it, but the perjury business will dog him for the rest of his time in office.

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John Carter  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:39:19pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Trump cronies flipping on Trump only matters if the DOJ is actively pursuing a case and Sessions doesn’t muck things up.

Assuming that Sessions isn’t that idiotic (not a given), here’s my odds on cutting a deal and flipping:

Manafort: 2-1. This is a guy who is by definition a mercenary. He wont go down with the ship and will sell out to save himself.

Stone: no odds. This guy is an oddball and a full blown wackaloon. He’s made enough allegations that if sustained by actual evidence, would put him away for a long time. Cutting a deal might be in his best interest, but he’s not working with a full deck (or he’s playing crazy-brave all while cutting a deal before he gets sunk).

Pence: 8-1. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. He’s probably thinking he’s far enough removed from Trump to not have to worry.

Jared 15-1: Doesn’t think he’s doing anything wrong.

Ivanka 12-1: Complicit. It’s not just a perfume scent.

Bannon 5-1: Another mercenary, but he’s a true believer who might go down with the ship thinking he did nothing wrong.

Donny Trump no odds: Again, not the sharpest tool in the shed. He doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He’ll fight whatever comes his way, even though he’ll go down with the ship. He’ll take the rest of the country with him. He’s that vain.

Giuliani: 10-1. He might be smart enough to understand the severity of his situation, but doesn’t think it’ll happen to him.

Tillerson: 7-5. Probably didn’t do anything criminal regarding the Trump-Russia stuff, but might cut a deal or turn state’s evidence. He’s got grandkids to think of.

Where is Flynn

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:39:32pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Trump cronies flipping on Trump only matters if the DOJ is actively pursuing a case and Sessions doesn’t muck things up.

Regrettably I think the analysis ends right there. Sessions has two jobs, and he damn well knows what they are —1) to cover for Trump/Republican crimes and 2) to do everything in his power to suppress voting by non-Republicans.

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A Cranky One  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:39:40pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Don’t see Flynn on that list. I know there are rumors he already has.

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:41:24pm

re: #7 John Carter

Flynn:
He’s probably already cutting a deal.

If he isn’t, he’s very very very dumb. He’s in the most immediate trouble of anyone.

No odds given.

If I left anyone else off, it’s because there’s so much corruption and incompetence that it’s hard to remember all the parties that could tuck tail and run for a deal.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:43:31pm

Let us not also forget Jill (the poison pill) Stein. She also attended the same dinner with Putin that Flynn did. She may have also played a role in this Russian mess as well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:43:43pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Flynn:
He’s probably already cutting a deal.

If he isn’t, he’s very very very dumb. He’s in the most immediate trouble of anyone.

No odds given.

If I left anyone else off, it’s because there’s so much corruption and incompetence that it’s hard to remember all the parties that could tuck tail and run for a deal.

Can’t swing a cat in that place without hitting a corrupt incompetent.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:44:05pm

Perhaps we are putting the cart before the horses asses here?

For all the smoke, there has yet to be fire discovered.

When people start being served for felonies, then I think we can start to see the end of Trump.

Till then, it’s one stupid photo-op after another.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:44:39pm

What are the odds on Melania?

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bratwurst  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:44:47pm

Repost from the end of a dead thread last night:

It had really been bugging me…could NOT figure who who Tillerson reminded me of until this past weekend.

The similarity is not only physical either. Tunney was just a figurehead appointed to represent a loudmouth asshole too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:45:23pm

re: #13 freetoken

Perhaps we are putting the cart before the horses asses here?

For all the smoke, there has yet to be fire discovered.

When people start being served for felonies, then I think we can start to see the end of Trump.

Till then, it’s one stupid photo-op after another.

You know, it it’s all smoke and no fire, these are the dumbest people on the face of the planet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:45:45pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

So in other words we are being reckless. Gee, I wonder how that could have happened?

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:46:54pm

re: #15 bratwurst

Tunney was just an on-screen character, once Vince McMahon had started to suck up the local companies. Long, long ago Tunney was involved in actual promotion, I believe.

In a strange allegory, Trump too was an on-screen character for McMahon.

All the world is a stage.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:47:36pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m just sayin’… these things can go on for years.

And years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:47:53pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

So in other words we are being reckless. Gee, I wonder how that could have happened?

Well, when your orders are to ‘bomb the shit out of them!’, and you know the President doesn’t really care how many people you kill as long as they’re all brown, or at least brownish, the number of targets you can hit goes way up.

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451_Montag  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:48:14pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Trump cronies flipping on Trump only matters if the DOJ is actively pursuing a case and Sessions doesn’t muck things up.

Assuming that Sessions isn’t that idiotic (not a given), here’s my odds on cutting a deal and flipping:

Manafort: 2-1. This is a guy who is by definition a mercenary. He wont go down with the ship and will sell out to save himself.

Stone: no odds. This guy is an oddball and a full blown wackaloon. He’s made enough allegations that if sustained by actual evidence, would put him away for a long time. Cutting a deal might be in his best interest, but he’s not working with a full deck (or he’s playing crazy-brave all while cutting a deal before he gets sunk).

Pence: 8-1. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. He’s probably thinking he’s far enough removed from Trump to not have to worry.

Jared 15-1: Doesn’t think he’s doing anything wrong.

Ivanka 12-1: Complicit. It’s not just a perfume scent.

Bannon 5-1: Another mercenary, but he’s a true believer who might go down with the ship thinking he did nothing wrong.

Donny Trump no odds: Again, not the sharpest tool in the shed. He doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He’ll fight whatever comes his way, even though he’ll go down with the ship. He’ll take the rest of the country with him. He’s that vain.

Giuliani: 10-1. He might be smart enough to understand the severity of his situation, but doesn’t think it’ll happen to him.

Tillerson: 7-5. Probably didn’t do anything criminal regarding the Trump-Russia stuff, but might cut a deal or turn state’s evidence. He’s got grandkids to think of.

UPDATE:

Even though Sessions is Attorney General, he too could turn on Trump and give evidence to avoid a sticky situation. His odds are 18-1. Again, he might think he’ll avoid the worst of it, but the perjury business will dog him for the rest of his time in office.

My bets on Carter Page. No linked (officially) to GOP. Make a nice e scapegoat so will be ideal to throw under the bus. Got a lot to lose

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:48:17pm

re: #14 Ace Rothstein

What are the odds on Melania?

I don’t think Melania knows as much as we might think she does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:50:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:50:27pm

re: #18 freetoken

Tunney promoted in Canadian markets before the then WWF scooped him up. After Vince made his national expansion he offered Tunney a job with the company. He worked in other capacities before becoming on screen President.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:50:55pm
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bratwurst  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:51:02pm

re: #18 freetoken

Tunney was just an on-screen character, once Vince McMahon had started to suck up the local companies. Long, long ago Tunney was involved in actual promotion, I believe.

In a strange allegory, Trump too was an on-screen character for McMahon.

All the world is a stage.

You are exactly right. Tunney was a promoter who had rubbed shoulders with Vince Senior. Vince Junior was still going with the image of being a mere wrestling broadcaster in the 80s, so he invented the Tunney character when he needed an on-screen authority figure.

And by the way: I must say that your knowledge set never fails to amaze and delight. :)

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:51:06pm

I think Shithead Roger Stone has either flipped or soon will. He is both the slimiest of the conspira—liars and one of the most obvious Kremlin stooges in the conspiracy industry. On top of that he is probably the closest professional conspira-liar to the actual Trump power center. He would be an obvious go-between for media collusion with Russian sabotage and tampering. He is also reckless and arrogant, meaning he would be the easiest to catch and turn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:51:13pm

This little girl thought a broken water heater is a real life robot. It’s just not fair how cute it is

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:51:57pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Incompetence of the type Nunes has displayed would have gotten him fired from a private sector job over a week ago.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:52:48pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who else is surprised at “Blitzer” and “grills” in the same sentence?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:53:13pm

re: #19 freetoken

I’m just sayin’… these things can go on for years.

And years.

Yep. And they can also blow up quickly. Who knows? Certainly, you can find a twitter account that will tell you whatever story you want to hear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:54:52pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:55:10pm

Sadly, I doubt we’ll get that lucky; a couple of these guys will probably commit suicide (whether they want to or not) to protect the others.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:55:50pm

re: #11 Bubblehead II

Let us not also forget Jill (the poison pill) Stein. She also attended the same dinner with Putin that Flynn did. She may have also played a role in this Russian mess as well.

Guaranteed. And that part of this mess is getting next to no attention.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:56:23pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Had Dems known that, they would have taken info to Obama.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:56:40pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Dems took info to Obama during Benghazi, Ted Cruz would have literally exploded.

Ted Cruz, literally exploding? Oh, man! That would be fucking AWESOME!!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:56:50pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Let’s not forget he owes Uncle Sam seven figures in back taxes….

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:57:05pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And now for opposing viewpoint:

Spike Jonze Ikea ad

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:57:26pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

This little girl thought a broken water heater is a real life robot. It’s just not fair how cute it is

How easily the small humans accept their future robot overlords

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:57:32pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Ted Cruz, literally exploding? Oh, man! That would be fucking AWESOME!!!!

Now I’ve got that scene from scanners in my head.

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nines09  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:57:33pm

re: #6 lawhawk

My money’s on the small literally unknown player who drops some crumbs out of fear or reprisal. Crumbs lead to the loaf. Crumbs. And it could take years.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:57:34pm

re: #6 lawhawk

I can see Sessions pushing a real investigation and trying to make the case. He may have already decided to jump ship on Trump and go with Ryan. Trump’s attacks on Ryan have split the GOP power center and created a rival.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:58:03pm

re: #33 Brian J.

Sadly, I doubt we’ll get that lucky; a couple of these guys will probably commit suicide (whether they want to or not) to protect the others.

Not a single one of them strikes me as the sort to fall on his sword. Stab everyone else in the back? Oh, yeah. Definitely.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:58:51pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

I can see Sessions pushing a real investigation and trying to make the case. He may have already decided to jump ship on Trump and go with Ryan. Trump’s attacks on Ryan have split the GOP power center and created a rival.

You’re kidding, right? This is his one chance to bring the Confederate States back to life; he’s shown no indication that he’d ever consider going against his Cheeto Jesus. He’s a Patriot, doncha know!

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:59:38pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

Not a single one of them strikes me as the sort to fall on his sword. Stab everyone else in the back? Oh, yeah. Definitely.

Again, I may not have phrased that quite clearly enough. I said they’d commit suicide even if they didn’t want to. Like all the people our President’s boss hates in Russia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 5:59:48pm

re: #38 Brian J.

And now for opposing viewpoint:

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booo! hisss!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:00:34pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

How easily the small humans accept their future robot overlords

I wanted to hear the subsequent conversation she had with the manhole cover.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:00:46pm

re: #44 Brian J.

You’re kidding, right? This is his one chance to bring the Confederate States back to life; he’s shown no indication that he’d ever consider going against his Cheeto Jesus. He’s a Patriot, doncha know!

No. I think he would see a better chance of all that with the Ryan faction, especially if this goes all the way and Ryan ends up as President, either in 2020 or through Pence going down with Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:00:56pm

I could see Sessions threatening Trump with an investigation to make something happen that will undoubtedly benefit Sessions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:01:30pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Now I’ve got that scene from scanners in my head.

I was thinking more…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:01:54pm

re: #41 nines09

My money’s on the small literally unknown player who drops some crumbs out of fear or reprisal. Crumbs lead to the loaf. Crumbs. And it could take years.

yep. It will be one of the faceless minions being treated like crap.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:02:09pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Great analysis, hawk of the law. This would make a good Page.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:02:28pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:03:22pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:03:38pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:03:40pm

re: #45 Brian J.

Again, I may not have phrased that quite clearly enough. I said they’d commit suicide even if they didn’t want to. Like all the people our President’s boss hates in Russia.

Not going to happen. The first time someone in tRumps cabal dies under mysterious circumstances the rest will be clamoring for protection in return for turning States evidence.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:04:09pm

re: #45 Brian J.

Again, I may not have phrased that quite clearly enough. I said they’d commit suicide even if they didn’t want to. Like all the people our President’s boss hates in Russia.

Ah. By, say, “jumping out a window”, for example.

One shoe makes it murder.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:04:58pm

re: #56 Bubblehead II

Not going to happen. The first time someone in tRumps cabal dies under mysterious circumstances the rest will be clamoring for protection in return for turning States evidence.

Nonsense! They would know there is no protection from the CIA and KGB, er, FSB working in concert. They’d be headed for various third world nations in bad fake beards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:04:58pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah. By, say, “jumping out a window”, for example.

One shoe makes it murder.

jumping out of a window in a bathtub-related accident…

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:05:45pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. It will be one of the faceless minions being treated like crap.

I’ve wondered occasionally about the people who work for Alex Jones and people like him. To be competent in their jobs they have to be sane enough not to believe a word of his shit. This means they are total mercenaries, which means they will cut a deal rather than martyr themselves.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:07:29pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

jumping out of a window in a bathtub-related accident…

Overcome by despondency, shooting themselves in the head.

The back of the head.

Twice.

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Jenner7  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:07:35pm

He’s dumb.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:08:49pm

re: #63 Jenner7

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He’s dumb.

Kind of what you don’t want for the head of an INTELLIGENCE committee huh?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:08:54pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

jumping out of a window in a bathtub-related accident…

Some of those ads for the big fancy bathtubs right next to big fucking windows make me think you could actually fall out those windows in a bathtub-related accident.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:09:31pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve wondered occasionally about the people who work for Alex Jones and people like him. To be competent in their jobs they have to be sane enough not to believe a word of his shit. This means they are total mercenaries, which means they will cut a deal rather than martyr themselves.

The problem with that is that there simply aren’t many such people in the executive branch right now, as the very slow rate of appointments makes clear. Bannon or one of his underlings is being very careful not to let people into the inner circle that they don’t already know or have someone vouch for.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:09:45pm

re: #63 Jenner7

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He’s dumb.

I see two people, and the answer is still yes.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:10:35pm

re: #59 Brian J.

Nonsense! They would know there is no protection from the CIA and KGB, er, FSB working in concert. They’d be headed for various third world nations in bad fake beards.

Why would you assume the CIA would even work with the FSB to protect tRump? Hell, if anything the CIA would (and probably are) trying to find anything they can to bring him down. He isn’t exactly high on their (or the rest of the IC) list of most liked people.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:10:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:11:22pm

I should have said IF Trump leaves office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:11:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:12:41pm

God. How fucking stupid do you have to be to think the Department of State is unimportant?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:13:06pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

What do we need a State Department for? We have Jared!

Hey, if Donald thinks he’s good enough to fuck Ivanka, he must be something!!!
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:13:17pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

God. How fucking stupid do you have to be to think the Department of State is unimportant?

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:13:55pm

re: #68 Bubblehead II

Why would you assume the CIA would even work with the FSB to protect tRump? Hell, if anything the CIA would (and probably are) trying to find anything they can to bring him down. He isn’t exactly high on their (or the rest of the IC) list of most liked people.

To whatever extent America has a “Deep State,” Trump is their man. Look at all the underhanded stuff they did to take Hillary down. There’s no shortage of Aldrich Ames/ Edward Snowden types who think they’re doing the patriotic thing by working to bring REAL leadership to America.

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while(1) worries++;  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:14:26pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

I should have said IF Trump leaves office.

You’re correct on the when. It might not be 2020 …

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:15:43pm

re: #75 Brian J.

To whatever extent America has a “Deep State,” Trump is their man. Look at all the underhanded stuff they did to take Hillary down. There’s no shortage of Aldrich Ames/ Edward Snowden types who think they’re doing the patriotic thing by working to bring REAL leadership to America.

Yeah, no. I think you’ve got it completely backwards.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:15:46pm

Rachel is doing the Journalisms in a big way tonite. Tearing Jared a new one.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:16:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:16:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:18:31pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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Nunes looks like he is being assimilated by the Borg…

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451_Montag  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:19:22pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes looks like he is being assimilated by the Borg…

Or he is assimilating the Borg?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:20:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:20:51pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes looks like he is being assimilated by the Borg…

WE ARE THE BORG. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. YOUR UNIQUENESS WILL ADD TO OUR OWN…

…what? Devin Nunes? THAT asshole?…

NEVERMIND.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:20:58pm

re: #79 gocart mozart

George, he wasn’t Whitewashing…

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #82 451_Montag

We are the Derp. Your cultural and intellectual distinctiveness scares the shit out of us. You will assimilate…but we probably won’t let you date our daughters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:23:06pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart

George, he wasn’t Whitewashing…

Well, yeah, but there just aren’t any Asian actors, you know.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:25:39pm

*blink*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:26:38pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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She seems….normal…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:26:44pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:27:07pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Caption: “Moron dry humping a dozen microphones at once.”

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:27:22pm

re: #78 Dave In Austin

Rachel is doing the Journalisms in a big way tonite. Tearing Jared a new one.

No. Her endless jocking of Trump-with-a-Brooklyn-accent taints anything else she does.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:28:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:29:11pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:30:35pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

She seems….normal…

IIRC, Trump’s mom had hair that was a cross between Trump’s current abomination and Bride of Frankenstein hair.

What is it with the hair in that family?

Perhaps the Trumps really are hosts of parasitic hairy caterpillar aliens from Betelgeuse V that consume all thought?

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:32:54pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

I think at least 90% of the RW media types know they are lying, and at least 50% of the GOP base are also willful liars.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:34:35pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:35:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:35:38pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:35:57pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Russia has about triple the US’s uranium reserves.

en.wikipedia.org

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Timothy Watson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:36:17pm

re: #98 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:37:45pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:37:52pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

He’s trying to see if anything will stick to the wall, but he keeps throwing the spaghetti at a fan.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:38:16pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

Like a squid squirting ink.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:38:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:38:58pm
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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:05pm

re: #75 Brian J.

To whatever extent America has a “Deep State,” Trump is their man. Look at all the underhanded stuff they did to take Hillary down. There’s no shortage of Aldrich Ames/ Edward Snowden types who think they’re doing the patriotic thing by working to bring REAL leadership to America.

So, let me see if I am on the same page as you.You are suggesting that along with the tRump campaign potentially colluding with the Russian Government to bring down Hillary, they also colluded with some “deep state” operatives within our own Government to achieve the same goal?

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:11pm

re: #103 Belafon

He’s trying to see if anything will stick to the wall, but he keeps throwing the spaghetti at a fan.

He’s certainly had enough confirmation in recent days that there are lots of press people and “liberals” who will reflexively take his side against Hillary no matter what, so why not?

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Jenner7  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:19pm

We can all relax, guys. It’s a hoax.

Phew.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:36pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:37pm

re: #107 Bubblehead II

So, let me see if I am on the same page as you.You are suggesting that along with the tRump campaign potentially colluding with the Russian Government to bring down Hillary, they also colluded with some “deep state” operatives within our own Government to achieve the same goal?

The former almost certainly, and the latter probably.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:39pm

Watching Rachel Maddow. Jared Kushner appears to have been given the task of operating half the government.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:39:46pm

re: #101 Timothy Watson

My best guess is kolodzeiart.org

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:40:47pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:41:42pm

re: #1 Blind Frog Belly White

Flynn. The National Enquirer cover identifying him as the Russian Spy that the President had exposed is the giveaway.

First to flip get the top bunk!

One of the brighter sparks over at Fark put out what I consider a fairly plausible scenario: Flynn has flipped or is in the process of flipping, and Nunes caught wind of such. Hence his rush to the White House, to clue Donny in that his best bud is preparing to cut a deal with the FBI in exchange for testimony.

Armed with that revelation, the White House is now preparing to put the whole mess on Flynn’s head. When the word comes from official sources that Flynn has testified, the White House will launch into a propaganda storm that Flynn was the Russian spy in the campaign. That everything that happened was his doing, all the reports of collusion and questionable dialogue with Russian officials was either through him or approved by him, and so if anybody is a criminal its him.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:42:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:42:28pm

re: #66 Brian J.

The problem with that is that there simply aren’t many such people in the executive branch right now, as the very slow rate of appointments makes clear. Bannon or one of his underlings is being very careful not to let people into the inner circle that they don’t already know or have someone vouch for.

Since Jones is not a member of the administration (not officially at any rate) I was thinking about the media collusion end of this affair. In the clip, Olbermann referred to active investigation of Infowars and Breitbart among others. Bannon himself came from Breitbart, where his actions before the election and the inauguration would necessarily involve the outlet’s own staff. To what extent they are involved, and how much they could know or find out, is anyone’s guess, but it might be quite a bit.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:42:30pm

He’s on a roll tonight, tweeting from a staffer’s iPhone.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:43:06pm

re: #112 jaunte

Watching Rachel Maddow. Jared Kushner appears to have been given the task of operating half the government.

It was always inevitable that Trump would try to delegate massive amounts of the presidency to his claque of sycophants and bootlickers. Trump has no interest in anything that doesn’t gratify his ego or line his pockets, and most of the presidency is squarely in this boring zone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:43:11pm

re: #114 jaunte

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bratwurst  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:43:18pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:43:55pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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“Whataboutism” is a Soviet-era propaganda tactic, used to turn attention from very real problems someone has by pointing elsewhere and saying “What about them?!”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:44:31pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Devin Nunes gets even odds. He committed two flagrant felonies, obstruction of justice and improper release of classified information. By cutting out his own committee and running to the press he destroyed whatever Speech & Debate Clause protection he might otherwise have had, and more to the point he’s been acting guilty. Changing Uber cars and ditching his own staff, refusing to name his source and then having it come out that he got the information from someone on White House grounds all adds up to a deliberate attempt to throw sand in the eyes of the referee.

`When someone throws sand in the referee’s eyes, he can’t make an accurate judgment about what happened.’ -Patrick Fitzgerald, explaining why he indicted Scooter Libby

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Jenner7  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:44:43pm

He hasn’t tweeted from the Android for awhile now…

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:45:11pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

“Whataboutism” is a Soviet-era propaganda tactic, used to turn attention from very real problems someone has by pointing elsewhere and saying “What about them?!”

I don’t think the Soviets should get credit for an invention that probably came 5 seconds after the discovery of language.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:45:29pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:45:49pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

One of the brighter sparks over at Fark put out what I consider a fairly plausible scenario: Flynn has flipped or is in the process of flipping, and Nunes caught wind of such. Hence his rush to the White House, to clue Donny in that his best bud is preparing to cut a deal with the FBI in exchange for testimony.

Armed with that revelation, the White House is now preparing to put the whole mess on Flynn’s head. When the word comes from official sources that Flynn has testified, the White House will launch into a propaganda storm that Flynn was the Russian spy in the campaign. That everything that happened was his doing, all the reports of collusion and questionable dialogue with Russian officials was either through him or approved by him, and so if anybody is a criminal its him.

Who exactly would do the prosecuting? Not CSA Attorney General Sessions, surely? And anyway, there’s this guy in the White House who can serve a piping hot stack of pardons whenever he wants.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:46:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:47:11pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:47:30pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Perhaps Trump ate something that disagreed with him, and he needed to go to the Twitter Throne Room much earlier than usual.

Or, we’re all about to die in a nuclear holocaust.

Just another day with Trump as POTUS*.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:47:44pm
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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:48:24pm

re: #121 bratwurst

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When my parents loved me as a child, they made it clear that unconditional love didn’t mean they would let me feel that I was right about everything. I don’t think Hannity ever got that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:49:27pm

re: #124 Jenner7

He hasn’t tweeted from the Android for awhile now…

He did two days ago. The Judge Jeanine tweet and the Obamacare will explode tweet.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:50:31pm

re: #119 EPR-radar

It was always inevitable that Trump would try to delegate massive amounts of the presidency to his claque of sycophants and bootlickers. Trump has no interest in anything that doesn’t gratify his ego or line his pockets, and most of the presidency is squarely in this boring zone.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:50:42pm

re: #127 Brian J.

Who exactly would do the prosecuting? Not CSA Attorney General Sessions, surely? And anyway, there’s this guy in the White House who can serve a piping hot stack of pardons whenever he wants.

Well, to address the last first, we already know that under judicial precedent that accepting a presidential pardon is equivalent to a guilty plea, so they might be hesitant to take any pardons he’s offering.

As for the former, we’ve seen this happen enough times to know how it goes: Point to the guy who cuts the first deal and accuse him of being the true mastermind, claiming that the people he turned on are really victims. Then accuse the FBI of letting the “real” criminal get away.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:51:13pm

The looting is coming from inside the house.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:51:30pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

He did two days ago. The Judge Jeanine tweet and the Obamacare will explode tweet.

TFW you realize that the phone being used for tweets by the Orange Menace is one of the few facts actually available in the Republican empire of lies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:51:46pm

the roaches are scurrying now that the lights are on:

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:51:50pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Jenner7  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:51:57pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

My bad.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:52:22pm

re: #111 Brian J.

The former almost certainly, and the latter probably.

Hence your assertion that the CIA would actively assist the FSB in eliminating (assisted suicide) anybody who might be willing to testify against tRump if it would keep them out of jail?

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:52:43pm

re: #139 Targetpractice

Nepotism and cronyism, married together in unholy matrimony.

Trump is running a Corrupternment.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:53:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:53:09pm

re: #140 Jenner7

My bad.

easy enough to miss. It had been a very long time that the Android was MIA.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:54:08pm

re: #143 jaunte

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“Quite effective” isn’t the words I would have used. “Treasonous bastard” would have been far more accurate.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:54:23pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Well, to address the last first, we already know that under judicial precedent that accepting a presidential pardon is equivalent to a guilty plea, so they might be hesitant to take any pardons he’s offering.

Why? The practical consequence is no prosecution, ever. Why would any of these guys care about looking guilty? Honesty is for suckers!

As for the former, we’ve seen this happen enough times to know how it goes: Point to the guy who cuts the first deal and accuse him of being the true mastermind, claiming that the people he turned on are really victims. Then accuse the FBI of letting the “real” criminal get away.

The problems with this are that any honest FBI agents already know the people making the accusations wouldn’t give you the time of day without lying, and there might not be any honest FBI agents. And you’re making the same mistake as the Republicans did last year- the FBI doesn’t indict people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:55:18pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #143 jaunte

Congressional Democrats have to press for Nunes to recuse himself because he is so blatant about being a crook, but any replacement would probably be better at covering things up.

The idea that a Republican replacement for Nunes would be more honest can be dismissed out of hand.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:57:31pm

re: #141 Bubblehead II

Hence your assertion that the CIA would actively assist the FSB in eliminating (assisted suicide) anybody who might be willing to testify against tRump if it would keep them out of jail?

They’ve got two governments to prop up, and once you’re committed, there’s no going back. What could you gain by stopping your cooperation now that it’s succeeded?

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:57:31pm

“…and then Jared and his Vnesheconombank guys swoop in and buy up everything for pennies on the dollar.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:57:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:58:39pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

He did two days ago. The Judge Jeanine tweet and the Obamacare will explode tweet.

I think he’s caught on that people can see which phone he’s using himself, and is deliberately using an iPhone most of the time to throw off the watchers.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:59:06pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

One of the brighter sparks over at Fark put out what I consider a fairly plausible scenario: Flynn has flipped or is in the process of flipping, and Nunes caught wind of such. Hence his rush to the White House, to clue Donny in that his best bud is preparing to cut a deal with the FBI in exchange for testimony.

Armed with that revelation, the White House is now preparing to put the whole mess on Flynn’s head. When the word comes from official sources that Flynn has testified, the White House will launch into a propaganda storm that Flynn was the Russian spy in the campaign. That everything that happened was his doing, all the reports of collusion and questionable dialogue with Russian officials was either through him or approved by him, and so if anybody is a criminal its him.

Plainly, anyone who flips is going to face a shitstorm of Biblical proportions from the RWNJs and their Russian media allies. Lumpy, Rush, and RT probably already have interns preparing possible dossiers. Stock up on popcorn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:59:35pm
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Skandal  Mar 27, 2017 • 6:59:39pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:00:26pm

re: #150 jaunte

The Democrats should say no to any infrastructure proposal that also includes tax cuts for the rich. This isn’t difficult.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:00:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:00:47pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

I think he’s caught on that people can see which phone he’s using himself, and is deliberately using an iPhone most of the time to throw off the watchers.

It’s pretty easy to tell when it’s him tweeting now whether it’s the iPhone or Android.
Distinctive and obvious.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:01:10pm

re: #146 Brian J.

Why? The practical consequence is no prosecution, ever. Why would any of these guys care about looking guilty? Honesty is for suckers!

These suckers are businessman and one of the most important things a businessman can trade on his name. Being “Jared Kushner, Admitted Crook” can close a lot of doors.

The problems with this are that any honest FBI agents already know the people making the accusations wouldn’t give you the time of day without lying, and there might not be any honest FBI agents. And you’re making the same mistake as the Republicans did last year- the FBI doesn’t indict people.

The FBI doesn’t indict people, but testimony they take in can be used for things other than criminal charges, such as articles of impeachment. And the higher the pile of evidence becomes, the harder it becomes for the GOP to argue that there’s no need for a select committee or independent prosecutor. Flynn ratting out one or more of his fellow vermin in the White House might be the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. So the White House is going to try to get out ahead of that by saying Flynn’s the “real” crook, that his testimony is suspect, and that the FBI cut a sweetheart deal with him (likely for immunity) and so allowed the “real” crook to walk purely in the name of politics.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:02:47pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Putting his son-in-law in charge of the effort is one of the more optically inept and obviously corrupt moves in an already amazingly fucked up and floundering administration.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:04:21pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

These suckers are businessman and one of the most important things a businessman can trade on his name. Being “Jared Kushner, Admitted Crook” can close a lot of doors.

There are many doors in this world, and most of them don’t care about the American government. If nothing else, Vlad’ll give him a nice sinecure… or a polonium cocktail if he refuses.

The FBI doesn’t indict people, but testimony they take in can be used for things other than criminal charges, such as articles of impeachment. And the higher the pile of evidence becomes, the harder it becomes for the GOP to argue that there’s no need for a select committee or independent prosecutor. Flynn ratting out one or more of his fellow vermin in the White House might be the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. So the White House is going to try to get out ahead of that by saying Flynn’s the “real” crook, that his testimony is suspect, and that the FBI cut a sweetheart deal with him (likely for immunity) and so allowed the “real” crook to walk purely in the name of politics.

The GOP doesn’t give a damn because its voters don’t give a damn. They believe in white supremacy so absolutely that there is NOTHING they could do to shake them. They’d gleefully sign up to a dictatorship or foreign occupation if there was enough Strange Fruit in the trees.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:04:27pm

re: #150 jaunte

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“…and then Jared and his Vnesheconombank guys swoop in and buy up everything for pennies on the dollar.”

This is the day after Rinsed Prius was out telling the press that if the White House doesn’t get the Freedom Caucus’ unquestionable support in the future, they’re going to work with moderate Democrats to get this bill passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:04:28pm

LOLOLOLOL

no, donnie.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:04:31pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

Waiting for the Jeffrey Lord explanation of his fourth-dimensional-judo-chess strategy here.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:04:37pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

Putting his son-in-law in charge of the effort is one of the more optically inept and obviously corrupt moves in an already amazingly fucked up and floundering administration.

This Trump mess is fractally fucked-up. It’s a fucked up mess of self-similar enfuckitude no matter how one looks at it or from what perspective (overview vs details).

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:05:12pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

God. How fucking stupid do you have to be to think the Department of State is unimportant?

Jared can handle it.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:05:36pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:05:42pm

re: #121 bratwurst

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:06:17pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:06:50pm

re: #166 Barefoot Grin

Jared can handle it.

Shit, I could handle diplomacy under the Trump administration. The time commitment for Trump’s secretary of state is probably something like 1 hour every six months.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:07:09pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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Skandal  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:07:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:08:07pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:09:26pm

re: #161 Brian J.

There are many doors in this world, and most of them don’t care about the American government. If nothing else, Vlad’ll give him a nice sinecure… or a polonium cocktail if he refuses.

But not all of them are as profitable as selling overpriced garbage to dumb Americans.

The GOP doesn’t give a damn because its voters don’t give a damn. They believe in white supremacy so absolutely that there is NOTHING they could do to shake them. They’d gleefully sign up to a dictatorship or foreign occupation if there was enough Strange Fruit in the trees.

They’ll give a damn when their first polls come in next year and they’re running far thinner margins than they were last go around. The Freedom Caucus crowd doesn’t give a fuck, they could drop their drawers and piss on the audience and get reelected. But guys like Ryan or Issa who hail from purple and blue districts? They’re suddenly going to acquire a lump in their collective throats when they realize that being best buds with the Vulgar Talking Yam is acting like lead on their poll numbers.

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nines09  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:09:28pm
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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:11:30pm

re: #149 Brian J.

They’ve got two governments to prop up, and once you’re committed, there’s no going back. What could you gain by stopping your cooperation now that it’s succeeded?

Thank you. With this post you just confirmed in my mind that you need to find a new dealer. Because whatever you are ingesting has seriously fucked you up. I say this as you have now implied that our IC is actively colluding with the FSB to keep tRump in office and that is some serious Alex Jones CT shit. Either that or you’re just trying to troll us.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:12:15pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:12:21pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL

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no, donnie.

No Don, what they’re going to do is slag you and every Republican who sat back and let millions of Americans suffer so you could make a point. And they’re going to yell from the mountaintops about every move you make to sabotage Obamacare.

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:12:51pm

re: #139 Targetpractice

Nepotism and cronyism, married together in unholy matrimony.

Two New York crime families joining forces through marriage. I think I’ve seen this movie.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

But not all of them are as profitable as selling overpriced garbage to dumb Americans.

Plenty of other dumb people out there. And a couple of vivid descriptions of radiation poisoning will help make up any flipper’s mind.

They’ll give a damn when their first polls come in next year and they’re running far thinner margins than they were last go around. The Freedom Caucus crowd doesn’t give a fuck, they could drop their drawers and piss on the audience and get reelected. But guys like Ryan or Issa who hail from purple and blue districts? They’re suddenly going to acquire a lump in their collective throats when they realize that being best buds with the Vulgar Talking Yam is acting like lead on their poll numbers.

What confidence do you have that will occur? Hillary Clinton ran ahead of nearly every House and Senate Democrat in 2016, and that wasn’t good enough to win or win Congress. Bernie Trump’s doing his best, with the help of the professional left, to keep the Republicans in power; most American liberals don’t want the responsibility and compromises required in government any more than conservatives do. Conservatives, however, are much better at getting into office…

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:14:53pm

re: #176 Bubblehead II

Thank you. With this post you just confirmed in my mind that you need to find a new dealer. Because whatever you are ingesting has seriously fucked you up. I say this as you have now implied that our IC is actively colluding with the FSB to keep tRump in office and that is some serious Alex Jones CT shit. Either that or you’re just trying to troll us.

They likely conspired to get him in office, and now even if someone had an attack of conscience, how could they respond without getting a high-caliber haircut?

If our IC wanted this guy out of office, it’d take ten seconds.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:15:25pm

Trump is more desperate to get something passed than my Uncle who had the kidney stone last year.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:15:49pm
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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:16:02pm

At least on my Facebook wall, which may not be indicative of the average American, the only people I see posting about this Russia stuff are the hard-core progressives and Democratic party faithful.

The rest (including some Trumper types) just don’t seem to be caring enough to post, including posting rebuttals.

Are we sure we’re onto a politically impactful topic here, with this Russia thing? What if enough Americans just don’t care?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:16:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:18:54pm

re: #141 Bubblehead II

Hence your assertion that the CIA would actively assist the FSB in eliminating (assisted suicide) anybody who might be willing to testify against tRump if it would keep them out of jail?

There’s more to the Intelligence Community than just the CIA. When I think of of intra-US government action to undermine Hillary’s candidacy my mind immediately goes to the New York FBI office. They were certainly tacitly aligned with Russia during the election, though they may not have realized it. Even if they had realized it, the degree to which they were willing to cross lines to ratfuck her candidacy indicates they might not have cared.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:19:23pm

re: #184 freetoken

Whether the Trump faithful recognize it or not, another nation controlled by a criminal mafia interfering in our elections is important.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:21:31pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:21:43pm

re: #180 Brian J.

Plenty of other dumb people out there. And a couple of vivid descriptions of radiation poisoning will help make up any flipper’s mind.

Yeah, I’m gonna have to wave off here. I’m not quite ready to believe Putin’s going to start poisoning Trumpers in order to force them in line. This is just too close to the “Hillary Body Count” business for me.

What confidence do you have that will occur? Hillary Clinton ran ahead of nearly every House and Senate Democrat in 2016, and that wasn’t good enough to win or win Congress. Bernie Trump’s doing his best, with the help of the professional left, to keep the Republicans in power; most American liberals don’t want the responsibility and compromises required in government any more than conservatives do. Conservatives, however, are much better at getting into office…

Right, conservatives have an easy time of getting reelected. But as we saw with guys like Eric Cantor, the base is fickle and quick to primary out those they feel have been insufficiently dedicated to the ideology. “Car Thief” Issa won reelection last year, but the margin was much tighter than he’s used to. Ryan’s presently polling lower than Trump is back home. And Senators don’t even have that luxury, they’ve got to win an entire state, not a gerrymandered “safe” district. It’s probably why there’s more evidence of Russiagate being taken seriously in the Senate than there is in the House.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:22:10pm

re: #184 freetoken

At least on my Facebook wall, which may not be indicative of the average American, the only people I see posting about this Russia stuff are the hard-core progressives and Democratic party faithful.

The rest (including some Trumper types) just don’t seem to be caring enough to post, including posting rebuttals.

Are we sure we’re onto a politically impactful topic here, with this Russia thing? What if enough Americans just don’t care?

In the beginning, if I remember my history correctly, Watergate wasn’t all that big of a deal either.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:22:21pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:23:09pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

There’s more to the Intelligence Community than just the CIA. When I think of of intra-US government action to undermine Hillary’s candidacy my mind immediately goes to the New York FBI office. They were certainly tacitly aligned with Russia during the election, though they may not have realized it. Even if they had realized it, the degree to which they were willing to cross lines to ratfuck her candidacy indicates they might not have cared.

And even Obama’s reaction is telling. He probably knew that the ratfucking was occurring and either was naive enough to think it had no effect or just didn’t care. Even though his place in history, which he cares about like most Presidents, depended in large part on Hillary winning. Maybe Vlad was right about him; maybe he was just weak.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:23:15pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

There’s more to the Intelligence Community than just the CIA. When I think of of intra-US government action to undermine Hillary’s candidacy my mind immediately goes to the New York FBI office. They were certainly tacitly aligned with Russia during the election, though they may not have realized it. Even if they had realized it, the degree to which they were willing to cross lines to ratfuck her candidacy indicates they might not have cared.

Agreed. Toss Commey in there as well. But to insinuate that our IC would actively collude with the FSB to get tRump elected and then kill/allow to be killed those who would testify against him or those connected to him is Alex Jones CT territory to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:23:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:23:56pm

re: #192 Brian J.

And even Obama’s reaction is telling. He probably knew that the ratfucking was occurring and either was naive enough to think it had no effect or just didn’t care. Even though his place in history, which he cares about like most Presidents, depended in large part on Hillary winning. Maybe Vlad was right about him; maybe he was just weak.

good fucking grief.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:24:24pm

re: #190 Belafon

In the beginning, if I remember my history correctly, Watergate wasn’t all that big of a deal either.

Well, ok.

But what I’m saying is this: the healthcare debate generated lots of action on my Facebook wall. Anything to do with guns does also (of course, this being the land of guns.)

This Russia thing? Nothing, other than the politically active who would self-label as progressive or liberal. And even then, several of these types on my Friends list don’t seem to bother with this thing (though there were quite concerned about the ACHA.)

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:26:04pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’m gonna have to wave off here. I’m not quite ready to believe Putin’s going to start poisoning Trumpers in order to force them in line. This is just too close to the “Hillary Body Count” business for me.

I understand your reticence to support this line of reasoning, and there’s a pretty good chance the carrot would be used instead of the stick. But there are a lot of dead Russian diplomats and dissidents found in the last few weeks. Vlad really does have a body count, and he’s proud of it.

Right, conservatives have an easy time of getting reelected. But as we saw with guys like Eric Cantor, the base is fickle and quick to primary out those they feel have been insufficiently dedicated to the ideology. “Car Thief” Issa won reelection last year, but the margin was much tighter than he’s used to. Ryan’s presently polling lower than Trump is back home. And Senators don’t even have that luxury, they’ve got to win an entire state, not a gerrymandered “safe” district. It’s probably why there’s more evidence of Russiagate being taken seriously in the Senate than there is in the House.

We’ll see. Myself, I’m just not optimistic. Too many on the left let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:27:10pm

I see we are heading into BoB territory now…

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:27:15pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief.

Yeah, the smell of a concern troll is starting to get a bit strong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:27:38pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:28:25pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:28:56pm

re: #192 Brian J.

Maybe Vlad was right about him; maybe he was just weak.

Go fuck yourself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:28:58pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:29:55pm
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electrotek  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:30:00pm

This is so well-written, and more effective coming from a fellow Muslim instead of an Islamophobic prick like Robert Spencer or Geert Wilders:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:30:28pm

@realDonaldTrump Can you explain Uranium again?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:31:21pm

re: #192 Brian J.

And even Obama’s reaction is telling. He probably knew that the ratfucking was occurring and either was naive enough to think it had no effect or just didn’t care. Even though his place in history, which he cares about like most Presidents, depended in large part on Hillary winning. Maybe Vlad was right about him; maybe he was just weak.

Be fair, his hands were tied. There was very little Obama could do in that environment to correct the Russian interference without the GOP led Congress and the mainstream press both interpreting it as an attempt by him to illegally influence the election towards his own preferred outcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:31:56pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:32:01pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To be fair, it might be the onion stuck in his teeth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:34:05pm
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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:34:34pm

re: #207 goddamnedfrank

Be fair, his hands were tied. There was very little Obama could do in that environment to correct the Russian interference without the GOP led Congress and the mainstream press both interpreting it as an attempt by him to illegally influence the election towards his own preferred outcome.

What would have been illegal about it, especially compared to Comey’s actions?

I know that some of you don’t like me calling Obama “weak.” Sorry. but he acted the part. When you let another country carry off a coup without complaint, you’re just not what a national leader should be. Our next Democratic leader needs to be able to call a spade a shovel, and act accordingly. Humphrey might have won if he’d exposed Nixon’s ratfucking in 1968, and so it is here.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:34:57pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:35:55pm

Is “big Uranium” a thing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:36:18pm

oh….

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:37:02pm

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Is “big Uranium” a thing?

Read the chapter called *Rocks* in Edward Abbey’s book “Desert Solitaire.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:37:07pm

Imma gonna start pulling out my side eye pics pretty soon…

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:38:51pm

re: #211 Brian J.

When you let another country carry off a coup without complaint, you’re just not what a national leader should be.

What should we have done? Invaded Eastern Europe to stop Vlad the Terrible?

Dude.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:38:55pm

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Is “big Uranium” a thing?

There are big companies involved in uranium mining, like Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton, but for them it’s a relatively small part of the business.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:38:55pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

Read the chapter called *Rocks* in Edward Abbey’s book “Desert Solitaire.”

I’ll check it out. Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:39:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:40:15pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:40:23pm

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

I’ll check it out. Thanks.

It won’t answer your question, but you’ll get a terrifying true story of greed and murder in Moab, UT in the 1950s during the uranium boom there.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:40:40pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been meaning t ask you about all the shrooms you planted. Harvesting yet?

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:41:12pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

What should we have done? Invaded Eastern Europe to stop Vlad the Terrible?

Dude.

Surely there was something we could have done to make it clear to Vlad that we were onto him and that his operatives were tugging on Superman’s cape.

And if necessary, we’d have some words with our NATO friends in the same boat.

But no, we had to play nice and become the 90th oblast.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:41:14pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

What should we have done? Invaded Eastern Europe to stop Vlad the Terrible?

Dude.

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Interesting Times  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:41:50pm

re: #196 freetoken

But what I’m saying is this: the healthcare debate generated lots of action on my Facebook wall. Anything to do with guns does also (of course, this being the land of guns.)

This Russia thing? Nothing, other than the politically active who would self-label as progressive or liberal. And even then, several of these types on my Friends list don’t seem to bother with this thing (though there were quite concerned about the ACHA.)

Agree. It’s far too complex for the shiny-object/reality-TV/goldfish attention span average voter. That type only cares about something that hits them where it hurts (i.e. possibility of losing insurance, and even then you have the herp-derpers who are all, ACA good, Obamacare bad!)

The only way this Russia thing gets traction outside those who pay attention anyway are if there’s a smoking gun the size of a rocket-propelled grenade launcher (or something gross and salacious, i.e. if the “pee-pee tape” where to, er…leak).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:41:51pm
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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:42:09pm

re: #205 electrotek

This is so well-written, and more effective coming from a fellow Muslim instead of an Islamophobic prick like Robert Spencer or Geert Wilders:

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It’s not hard to imagine this being written by a Puritan before leaving Europe for America.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:42:20pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy Randy Newman, Batman!

Randy Newman - Pants

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TedStriker  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:42:43pm

re: #143 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:43:19pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

I’ve been meaning t ask you about all the shrooms you planted. Harvesting yet?

Not yet, but soon (hopefully).
Lots of rain recently. Just need some sustained daytime temps in the 70s.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:44:09pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Why isn’t the House Intelligence Committee looking into the Bill & Hillary deal that allowed big Uranium to go to Russia, Russian speech….”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:44:18pm

re: #211 Brian J.

What would have been illegal about it, especially compared to Comey’s actions?

He was the President, Hillary was his named successor. Do the goddamned math and it results in a level of blowback a billion times more powerful than the already significant amount of wrath Comey incurred. Few non-Democrats would’ve accepted the information that is dripping out now if it had come from Obama then. If Hillary had won under such conditions it would’ve been a recipe for Civil War.

I know that some of you don’t like me calling Obama “weak.” Sorry. but he acted the part. When you let another country carry off a coup without complaint, you’re just not what a national leader should be. Our next Democratic leader needs to be able to call a spade a shovel, and act accordingly. Humphrey might have won if he’d exposed Nixon’s ratfucking in 1968, and so it is here.

You’re ignoring the political reality in operation and substituting it with incredibly naive ideas about how President Obama, who was hamstrung by both the far left and far right, should’ve acted.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:44:20pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:44:29pm

“Desert Solitaire” by Edward Abbey is one of my favorite books. First time I read it was in a few summer afternoons in Steamboat Springs, CO years ago, reading a Bud Werner Library copy of it whilst sitting at the top of the big ski jumps they have in town. I’d read about some crazy mountaineering expedition *Cactus* Ed took while watching the sunset.

I’ve probably bought a half dozen paperback copies to give to friends.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:45:29pm

re: #225 Bubblehead II

Starting to become aware of that. 👿

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:45:48pm

jeebus, like the sanctions were nothing more than weak tea or something equally useless….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:46:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:48:07pm

You have to admit, Nunes does look like a double-naught spy.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:48:16pm

re: #226 Interesting Times

I agree. Until a well defined, not too complex, smoking gun can be trotted out, the general populace probably will just not appreciate what Trump and Russia means.

Healthcare, on the other hand, is very immediate in its political viability as an issue. Everybody knows, or think they know, something about what they want and don’t want, and are willing to speak out about it.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:48:44pm

Let me take this comment to thank management for the edit button on comments. Makes me look smart instead of dumb when I catch odd typos.

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Jay C  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:48:53pm

re: #239 Barefoot Grin

You have to admit, Nunes does look like a double-naught spy.

Yeah. Agent Double-O Zero.

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:48:54pm

re: #233 goddamnedfrank

He was the President, Hillary was his named successor. Do the goddamned math and it results in a level of blowback a billion times more powerful than the already significant amount of wrath Comey incurred. Few non-Democrats would’ve accepted the information that is dripping out now if it had come from Obama then. If Hillary had won under such conditions it would’ve been a recipe for Civil War.

Nonsense; most of what we know now was known then, and Trump had been publicly begging Russia for help since July. I think there’d be a few Republican Congresscritters in custody or in those third world countries I mentioned earlier. And Hillary’d be in the White House prosecuting the conspiracy. There might be a few more Oregon-style militia nuts; that’s what the National Guard is for.

You’re ignoring the political reality in operation and substituting it with incredibly naive ideas about how President Obama, who was hamstrung by both the far left and far right, should’ve acted.

I don’t think so. I think it’s been clear for a while that Vlad wants to bring down the West and has lots of friends who would gladly help him. I think a national leader declaring the challenge would get a major upsurge of support.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:49:14pm

re: #241 teleskiguy

Me two.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:49:52pm

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:50:14pm

re: #244 jaunte

Me two.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:50:41pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes, swimming the White House moat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:51:21pm
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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:51:25pm

They just can’t help themselves.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:51:36pm

Gahh. Time to pack it in and go home. BBL

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Brian J.  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:52:33pm

Probably not a bad idea.

Thanks for mostly staying civil.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:52:43pm
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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:52:57pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

Starting to become aware of that. 👿

Stench started to show up when it originally inferred the CIA would actively collude with the FSB in killing those in tRumps inner circle who might testify against him to save their ass. It went down hill from there.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:53:29pm

At the end of the day President Obama trusted that the American voters would do the obviously right thing and collectively we let him down. Blaming him for not shitting all over the electoral process while Republicans, the Far-Left and Russia were all taking steaming dumps on our democracy is to deliberately wish he hadn’t been such an amazing President, but had instead been just as ethically compromised, mindlessly partisan & corrupt as the fuck-wit who followed him.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:55:29pm

re: #211 Brian J.

What would have been illegal about it, especially compared to Comey’s actions?

I know that some of you don’t like me calling Obama “weak.” Sorry. but he acted the part. When you let another country carry off a coup without complaint, you’re just not what a national leader should be. Our next Democratic leader needs to be able to call a spade a shovel, and act accordingly. Humphrey might have won if he’d exposed Nixon’s ratfucking in 1968, and so it is here.

Trump and the Russians are the tip of the iceberg here. The real problem is the Republicans, and they held Congress in Obama’s last two years. If Obama had gone public with the GOP/Russian ratfucking before leaving office there is no way it would have ended well.

Congressional Republicans and the entire GOP establishment would have locked themselves even more thoroughly into being Russian stooges than they presently are (as difficult as that may be to believe). And that would’ve just been the starting point. At a minimum, it would have guaranteed that no Republican POTUS would ever leave office in accordance with election results going forward.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:56:53pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

At the end of the day President Obama trusted that the American voters would do the obviously right thing and collectively we let him down. Blaming him for not shitting all over the electoral process while Republicans, the Far-Left and Russia were all taking steaming dumps on our democracy is to deliberately wish he hadn’t been such an amazing President, but had instead been just as ethically compromised, mindlessly partisan & corrupt as the fuck-wit who followed him.

When I look at Obama’s presidency as a whole, I am at a loss when it comes to finding instances where a total lack of ethics is apparent as we see day in and day out these days. That kind of criticism rings real fucking hollow for me.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 7:59:42pm

re: #256 teleskiguy

When I look at Obama’s presidency as a whole, I am at a loss when it comes to finding instances where a total lack of ethics is apparent as we see day in and day out these days. That kind of criticism rings real fucking hollow for me.

Me too. IMO Obama didn’t make very many mistakes in office, and the mistakes that were made never involved ethics issues. Mostly it was the occasional failure to play political hardball with the severity required in these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:01:50pm

just leaving this here

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:03:51pm

re: #251 Brian J.

Probably not a bad idea.

Thanks for mostly staying civil.

Your welcome. I am generally less tolerant of trolls. Concern types or others.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:04:37pm

re: #253 Bubblehead II

Stench started to show up when it originally inferred the CIA would actively collude with the FSB in killing those in tRumps inner circle who might testify against him to save their ass. It went down hill from there.

for me, the last nail was: “Too many on the left let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:05:27pm

re: #243 Brian J.

I see we have reached the unicorn farts and pixie dust portion of tonight’s programming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:06:17pm

re: #257 EPR-radar

Me too. IMO Obama didn’t make very many mistakes in office, and the mistakes that were made never involved ethics issues. Mostly it was the occasional failure to play political hardball with the severity required in these days.

and he still managed to accomplish a hella lot for the good of everyone, even good for those who hate him.

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Interesting Times  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:06:37pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

At the end of the day President Obama trusted that the American voters would do the obviously right thing and collectively we let him down.

Here’s the thing, though - you know how some say government reflects the character/will of the people? In this case (excluding largely civilized places like NY and CA), the character of way the hell too much of the American electorate really was reflected in a slithering sack of crap like trump. Look at those Ohio voters who were all, durr hurr we know trump lied about the wiretaps but it’s good because he’s shaking things up!!!11!!

Trump is the symptom, America having a parasitic troll infestation is the disease.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:08:56pm

Youtube Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:13:03pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trumpfish?

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:13:18pm

I heard on the radio today that Chuck Berry was about to release a new album, called Chuck.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:14:25pm

re: #261 EPR-radar

I see we have reached the unicorn farts and pixie dust portion of tonight’s programming.

Actually, I think we nipped this one in the bud. Just another BoB concern troll with the usual Alex Jones type CT shit.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:15:04pm

OT: A Reminder that Niall Ferguson is a stupid, Islamophobic Tory twat:

Brad DeLong: Monday Smackdown: Why Would You Think Niall Ferguson Was a Trustworthy Information Source?

[Ferguson:] This problem isn’t going away. Ask the French. About 8% of the French population is Muslim, which is roughly the proportion the Pew Research Centre projects it will be in Britain by 2030. The French authorities estimate that they have 11,400 radical Islamists. And about 60% to 70% of the French prison population is Muslim. If you haven’t read Michel Houellebecq’s Submission, about an Islamist takeover of France, now might be a good time. Alternatively, you can “drink tea and jolly well carry on” — though it’s hard to do that when your head’s in the sand.

This [60% to 70%] figure is from a sociologist’s survey of four prisons in northern Paris, it is not nationally representative.

[Ferguson:] Sorry, you can’t call Khosrokhavar’s % a “falsehood” if all you’re offering is a lower estimate. (And 27% looks too low.)

Khosrokhavar’s figures are for four prisons. He doesn’t say this is nationally representative. You do. That’s the falsehood.

I emailed him, and he says his best guess is that the national figure is about half what you say it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:16:28pm

re: #267 Belafon

I heard on the radio today that Chuck Berry was about to release a new album, called Chuck.

coming out June 16:
rollingstone.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:17:49pm
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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:19:34pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

coming out June 16:
rollingstone.com

They played one of the songs that’s been released on KKXT.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:19:57pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Xi knows Mar-A-Lago is bugged up the wazoo (and not just by us Ugly ‘murricans) -why take the chance?

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:20:45pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:22:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:23:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:25:10pm
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fern01  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:25:50pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

At the end of the day President Obama trusted that the American voters would do the obviously right thing and collectively we let him down. Blaming him for not shitting all over the electoral process while Republicans, the Far-Left and Russia were all taking steaming dumps on our democracy is to deliberately wish he hadn’t been such an amazing President, but had instead been just as ethically compromised, mindlessly partisan & corrupt as the fuck-wit who followed him.

That should be repeated

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:27:10pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The Democrats will make a deal with me on healthcare as soon as ObamaCare folds - not long.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:28:14pm

re: #279 jaunte

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That’s assuming that Trump, Price, and Ryan won’t do everything in their power to fuck the law (and the American people) over royally.

That’s a sucker’s bet.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:30:14pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

That’s assuming that Trump, Price, and Ryan won’t do everything in their power to fuck the law (and the American people) over royally.

That’s a sucker’s bet.

There will be a number of lawsuits coming to force them to follow the law, similar to the ones Planned Parenthood has used against states like Texas.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:31:40pm

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Is “big Uranium” a thing?

Probably similar to “Easy D”.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:34:23pm

I’m intrigued. Not so much the snow biking, but that the powder skiing in Japan looks so freaking fun.

Antoni Villoni - Japan 2016

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:41:40pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:44:06pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget the powdered toast, man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:46:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:46:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:47:00pm

Trump probably wonders if there is a thing called Myanium.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:47:02pm

Night Lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:50:22pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:51:27pm

re: #285 Jebediah, RBG

Don’t forget the powdered toast, man.

Powdered Toast Man part 1

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:52:41pm

re: #18 freetoken

Tunney was just an on-screen character, once Vince McMahon had started to suck up the local companies. Long, long ago Tunney was involved in actual promotion, I believe.

In a strange allegory, Trump too was an on-screen character for McMahon.

All the world is a stage.

It’s all kayfabe now.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:52:54pm

re: #275 goddamnedfrank

They’re not going to fire back for awhile.

They’re scared of their base; they’re thirsty about the idea of “disrupting” the nation and getting the oligarchy they crave; they’re still at half-mast with the Trump cult of personality.

And most of the “new” GOP—the post-Gingrich ones and those thereafter—are weak. All that vanity and hubris makes them brittle and insecure even with all the power they wield. No surprise they’re all so venal: there’s no depth to their morals, principles, or religiousity, and little to no self reflection. Self-awareness is fucking tabu. Which is why they can pair Ayn Rand and the New Testament, or accept Prosperity Gospel gibberish and/or David Barton’s Mirror Universe Jesus, or just be bilk their constituents: it’s all about ritual displays of belonging, not about actual ideas that you hold and incorporate into yourself..

They won’t change course, because all they’ve got is their constant screeching about how axiomatically right they are….as such, they’ll fall in line. And Donald Trump is their multi-handed avatar.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 27, 2017 • 8:55:27pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:00:38pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:01:18pm

re: #291 Eric The Fruit Bat

I see there are still some who remember!

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:02:31pm

re: #293 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

They’re not going to fire back for awhile.

They’re scared of their base; they’re thirsty about the idea of “disrupting” the nation and getting the oligarchy they crave; they’re still at half-mast with the Trump cult of personality.

And most of the “new” GOP—the post-Gingrich ones and those thereafter—are weak. All that vanity and hubris makes them brittle and insecure even with all the power they wield. No surprise they’re all so venal: there’s no depth to their morals, principles, or religiousity, and little to no self reflection. Self-awareness is fucking tabu. Which is why they can pair Ayn Rand and the New Testament, or accept Prosperity Gospel gibberish and/or David Barton’s Mirror Universe Jesus, or just be bilk their constituents: it’s all about ritual displays of belonging, not about actual ideas that you hold and incorporate into yourself..

They won’t change course, because all they’ve got is their constant screeching about how axiomatically right they are….as such, they’ll fall in line. And Donald Trump is their multi-handed avatar.

There was a time when there was at least something to the ideology of modern American conservatism. You might not have agreed with it, but there was some thought and philosophical underpinnings to it. They used to make actual arguments (whether or not they convinced you, that’s another story). But in the last 15-20 years, it’s all dogma. It’s repeated talk radio bullshit with no context.

A great example is the healthcare debacle. There’s a solid, conservative argument - rooted in a theory of constitutional law - that the federal government should not be involved in health insurance. But they can’t make that argument - it’s not popular (either generally or with what their base has become); and they don’t have anyone who doesn’t sound crazy who can make the principled argument… oh, and they lack the testicular fortitude to admit that this is their actual policy position.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:03:36pm

re: #293 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

And as long as I’m handing out hot takes fresh from the oven, I’ll point out that even the canny motherfuckers that keep the party running are still doing the von Papen/Stahlhelm dance with their finger up their ass: we can harness the 500ft-tall idiot, no way he could turn the tables.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:06:42pm

re: #268 Bubblehead II

Actually, I think we nipped this one in the bud. Just another BoB concern troll with the usual Alex Jones type CT shit.

I had to leave for a while. Glad it’s gone. Thanks.
For me, the yellow caution flag went out when it responded to one of my posts by conflating Alex Jones’s employees with the White House staff under Trump. The sirens and whistles came on when it suggested the CIA would join the Russians in protecting Trump. Nobody but a far gone, and badly uninformed, CTer could even entertain such an idea. Trump has been bashing the IC in general and the CIA in particular since the start of the campaign. His chief supporters, especially the CTers, have been doing it a lot longer. Hell, Shithead Roger Stone and his bud Alex have been at it for 20 years.
Along with neutralizing the US military, destroying the IC was one of Putin’s most important goals in hijacking the election and supporting the CT industry in the first place. Otherwise, they couldn’t care less what happens to Trump, the RWNJs or, for that matter, the CT dupes themselves.

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Jay C  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:10:15pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Supposedly the response by the Devil to St Anthony of Padua -to the question “How do you pass the time in Hell?”

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:16:09pm

re: #232 jaunte

So that’s the models for emojis.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:19:42pm

Putin’s cyber troops are probably experimenting with some backup plans in case the Trump gambit fails. They could, for example, consider associating the IC and the military with the RWNJs and the Trumpsters when the latter two go down in flames.
In that case, they would switch their bot army, their CT Fifth Column, and their troll hordes to the whacko left. Alex Jones has been notably adaptable in this respect and has in fact only recently become pegged as a right-winger. They may have strung Stein along so she could be held in reserve for just such a contingency. It’s a little far fetched but some random “shot in the dark” experimentation might be useful so everything will be in order if the big crunch comes.

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Kragar  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:22:32pm
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JordanRules  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:27:46pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

Such a great pic! Obama was built for all of this… including Vlad stare-downs.

Hillary was ready to continue the smart, informed, strong glare. Instead we got a big wet juicy corrupt kiss. What a fall.

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2017 • 9:44:14pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So now the yam is going to florduh in the middle of the week? Not just on the weekends? Will somebody please let him know that the capital is DC, NOT Mar-a-gaudy.


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