Anti-Choice Activist David Daleiden and Accomplice Charged With 15 Felonies in California

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Today, anti-choice fanatic David Daleiden and his accomplice Sandra Merritt were charged with 15 felonies for secretly filming Planned Parenthood under false pretenses.

State Attorney General Xavier Becerra announced the charges Tuesday against David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt. The two operate the California-based Center for Medical Progress.

The allegations say the pair filmed 14 people without their consent between October 2013 and July 2015, most of them in San Francisco and Los Angeles counties. They were also charged with criminal conspiracy.

Becerra says they used a fictitious bioresearch company to meet with women’s health care providers and covertly record them.

Infamous troll Chuck C. Johnson poses with Center for Medical Progress head David Daleiden, October 25, 2015

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1
Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:38:15pm

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:43:37pm

Excellent! Maybe he’ll get a new jumpsuit with his new nickname- “Bitch”.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:50:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:51:33pm
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freetoken  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:54:45pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

What are the odds that Trump will pardon him, to cater to his religious right base?

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:55:59pm

re: #5 freetoken

What are the odds that Trump will pardon him, to cater to his religious right base?

They’re being charged under California law, not federal law, so Trump can’t pardon them. If they are convicted, they could appeal to Jerry Brown for a pardon

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:56:23pm

re: #5 freetoken

What are the odds that Trump will pardon him, to cater to his religious right base?

If he does, it won’t be immediate. Too much opportunity to play the rubes by milking the “controversy.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:57:01pm

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2017 • 7:58:52pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

Nah, all we have to do is run some old B-roll of those vicious LA gangbangers waving guns around. //

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Brian J.  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:03:52pm

re: #9 KGxvi

Nah, all we have to do is run some old B-roll of those vicious LA gangbangers waving guns around. //

Yeah, they’ve already convinced themselves that California isn’t America any more and they don’t have passports.

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:07:14pm

re: #10 Brian J.

Yeah, they’ve already convinced themselves that California isn’t America any more and they don’t have passports.

Of course, we do have our home grown wingnuts in CA.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:07:53pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

Shiplord-

You okay up there? This squall line has been spawning tornadoes like rabbits spawn in the spring!

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:07:59pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

“Thousands of armed fanatics?” Please… Regardless of Daleiden’s “connections” very few of these “pro-lifers” ever bother to do more than post angry BS on Facebook and Twitter. Look at the turnout for the “pro-Trump” rallies we’ ve seen of late: attendance in triple digits is usually an over count.
We shouldn’t dismiss the possibility of SOME sort of violent reaction at SOME time: but a sort of White Terror? Unlikely..

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:08:36pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

Since Becerra’s office announced the indictments I’m guessing the trial will take place in Sacramento.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:11:33pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

This can lead to real violence if thousands of armed fanatics are incited to descend on LA to interfere with the trial and end the “oppression” by “lawless liberal judges.” It can happen. Daleiden has many connections to forced birthers who are deeply embedded in the fundy church “guest speaker” network. Some encouragement from actual members of the Trump administration is not out of the question either.

For that matter, the “sale of baby parts” lie has been publicly endorsed by practically the entire RW leadership, hate-radio kingpins and elected grifters alike.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:11:35pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Since Becerra’s office announced the indictments I’m guessing the trial will take place in Sacramento.

San Francisco, actually, here’s the criminal complaint for those interested.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:13:25pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Since Becerra’s office announced the indictments I’m guessing the trial will take place in Sacramento.

Ah, Sacamennna, where Velveeta is in the gourmet cheese case…

(And a nod to the late, great Herb Caen.)

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:14:11pm

re: #16 KGxvi

San Francisco, actually, here’s the criminal complaint for those interested.

Gee, there goes our LA gangbanger deterrent.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:18:20pm

re: #17 austin_blue

Ah, Sacamennna, where Velveeta is in the gourmet cheese case…

(And a nod to the late, great Herb Caen.)

Wasn’t that Chico?

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Joe Bacon  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:18:27pm

I still remember when The assholes from Operation Rescue showed up in LA and we turned out in force against them! Glorious! They tucked tail and ran away!

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Chez Ko Pe  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:18:28pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

The alternative is to let him walk…all over us. So prepare, but forge ahead.

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electrotek  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:18:48pm

This asshole:

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:19:01pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Gee, there goes our LA gangbanger deterrent.

How many of those potential armed fanatics would dare attempt to enter San Francisco? They’ll be afraid to catch teh ghey and/or lice from all the hippies.

On a more serious note, the complaint has 14 counts for violations of Penal Code 632(a) and one for criminal conspiracy. Here’s what Second 632 says:

Every person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, by means of any electronic amplifying or recording device, eavesdrops upon or records the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500), or imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.  If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631, 632.5, 632.6, 632.7, or 636, the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:19:03pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Gee, there goes our LA gangbanger deterrent.

They’ll have to fight their way through Oakland.

And pay bridge tolls.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:20:04pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

They’ll have to fight their way through Oakland.

And pay bridge tolls.

And with the Raiders leaving, they’re going to be pissed in Oakland.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:21:24pm

Daleiden is responsible for inciting the asshole that shot up the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic and killed several people. He should be indicted as an accessory to murder for that!

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:21:32pm

All if there was ever a case that called for a defense by that great Konstitutional Attorney Orly Taitz this is it. What a break the trial will be held in the only state she’s licensed to practice - and I do mean practice - law in.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:21:42pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Wasn’t that Chico?

Nah, that’s cheese-in-a-can territory.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:23:28pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:23:52pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon

Daleiden is responsible for inciting the asshole that shot up the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic and killed several people. He should be indicted as an accessory to murder for that!

Damn, just the thought of Orly Taitz in a courtroom! Colbert would have a field day! Imagine Satrday Night Live going to town on that!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:25:32pm

Trump to issue pardons in 3… 2… 1…

Planet Earth II: Holy crap. Just saw a jaguar take down a cayman.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:27:04pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Wasn’t that Chico?

Yeah, I did a little reach there. Good catch.

I miss Herb.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:27:34pm

I don’t think they should be doubling down.

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:28:36pm

re: #32 austin_blue

Yeah, I did a little reach there. Good catch.

I miss Herb.

Back when LOL meant Little Old Ladies.

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:31:24pm

So, the UC channel posted this video today:

A Canary in the Coal Mine: Muslims in Trump’s America

You can guess what’s happening in the comments…

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:31:26pm

re: #34 calochortus

Back when LOL meant Little Old Ladies.

And Edsel Ford Fung was the meanest waiter on Earth. I went to Sam Wo’s just to get yelled at. The food sucked, but Eddie delivered:

“Hurry up and order! I gotta turn this table!”

“You gonna eat THAT? You crazy white boy!”

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:34:45pm

re: #36 austin_blue

And Edsel Ford Fung was the meanest waiter on Earth. I went to Sam Wo’s just to get yelled at. The food sucked, but Eddie delivered:

“Hurry up and order! I gotta turn this table!”

“You gonna eat THAT? You crazy white boy!”

We must be old or something…

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:38:24pm

This probably could not have come at a worse time for the GOP. They’re trying to get a continuing resolution passed before Apr 28th to keep the government running and one of the items that the leadership is having to drop from the bill is cutting funding for PP. This announcement is going to send the pro-birth crowd into an uproar and may lead to one or more wingnuts on Capital Hill threatening to filibuster the bill unless the funding for PP is axed. Hell, Trump may very well take up the torch, figuring (in that Forrest Gump way of his) that this will actually boost his polling among “the people that matter.”

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:44:18pm

re: #22 electrotek

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mmmirele  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:44:38pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

I don’t think they should be doubling down.

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They’re currently under a court order prohibiting them from showing those videos. And I don’t think they’ll be able to bring the videos they’ve not shown to court as a defense.

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Kragar  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:44:57pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:48:10pm

re: #22 electrotek

This concept flies right over Dinesh’s chowderhead.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:50:11pm

re: #41 Kragar

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Amazing that his little hands can grasp a baseball. And is he trying to throw a curve?

Seems appropriate, doesn’t it?

The left hand index finger position is a nice touch. It screams of “douche canoe”.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:50:53pm

re: #41 Kragar

Sassy pitch!

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:51:15pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

This concept flies right over Dinesh’s chowderhead.

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It’s right up there with anyone else’s clothing conventions. Is it decent for women to show their knees? Their elbow’s? Breasts? What about men (although they don’t have the same restrictions women often do)? Naked people might be acceptable in certain situations, but I don’t think deciding to doff my blouse before grocery shopping would be considered a blow for freedom by Dinesh.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:53:16pm

Desaparecidos.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:53:24pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

This concept flies right over Dinesh’s chowderhead.

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That seems like such a simple concept - that wearing a hijab is only oppression if you can’t choose not to. And not wearing it is not freedom if you can’t choose to wear it.

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2017 • 8:58:43pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

That seems like such a simple concept - that wearing a hijab is only oppression if you can’t choose not to. And not wearing it is not freedom if you can’t choose to wear it.

A simple concept, of course: except for a hackish Islamophobe like Dinesh the Dense, the even simpler one is “hijab = Muslim = Evil Terrorist” - which is about as much intellectualizing as his intended audience can deal with.
Asshole.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:00:30pm

If this holds together, it’s going to be a bumpy night:

radar.weather.gov

All the yeller boxes are Severe T-storm Warnings. The atmosphere is as unstable as any paranoid-schizophrenic off their meds.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:02:00pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Seems like every predictable weather pattern in the west is happening a month early this year.

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:02:18pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Stay safe.

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:03:48pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Ahem. Please be careful with the schizophrenia jokes, k? Too many think paranoid is the only kind that there is. My son thanks you.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:05:03pm

Speaking of weather, snow pack, etc., the winter has been short in Colorado. It came late and seems to be exiting early. We got *a lot of snow* for about two or three weeks in December and January. February was warm. March was even warmer. Though there’s some snow falling in the mountains now as I type this, warm weather is coming back later this week.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:05:06pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:05:13pm

re: #41 Kragar

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How many times do you think dad took him outside to show him how to throw?

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Joe Bacon  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:08:05pm

re: #46 jaunte

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Desaparecidos.

And what are those Log Cabin Republicans saying????

Nothing…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:08:59pm

re: #54 Joe Bacon

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Not to mention being fired from his University President gig.

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:17:10pm

I’m going to say good night.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:21:53pm
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electrotek  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:22:57pm

re: #48 Jay C

A simple concept, of course: except for a hackish Islamophobe like Dinesh the Dense, the even simpler one is “hijab = Muslim = Evil Terrorist” - which is about as much intellectualizing as his intended audience can deal with.
Asshole.

I posted this yesterday so this is still relevant with the discussion:

Many of us Muslims can be self-absorbed hypocrites who only use liberalism when it suits us and discard it when it doesn’t. It usually comes into motion when bringing up forced hijab policies in Iran and Saudi Arabia and how some of them justify it by claiming they aren’t liberal democracies..so therefore that makes it okay.

Um, no it doesn’t.

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:30:28pm

Don’t know what to do with your dead fungi?

Make soup out of them!

Salmon Kasujiru (Sake Lees Soup Recipe) | Cooking with Dog

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:38:51pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

Seems like every predictable weather pattern in the west is happening a month early this year.

Yes, yes it is. Bluebonnets were up almost a month early this year, which is problematical because the pollinators weren’t up and buzzing for the first two to three weeks.

Things are getting truly weird, and Drumpf is trashing climate science and everything associated with it.

Check out the NYT Science Times yesterday. There’s some chilling stuff on climate change and its affect on plants.

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electrotek  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:39:15pm
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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:40:18pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Ahem. Please be careful with the schizophrenia jokes, k? Too many think paranoid is the only kind that there is. My son thanks you.

Noted! Old military phrase.

(pulls forelock, apologizes)

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:47:53pm

re: #61 freetoken

Don’t know what to do with your dead fungi?

Make soup out of them!

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How about live fungi?

Huitlacoche:

en.wikipedia.org

My dog, it’s delicious.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:49:05pm
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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:55:39pm

Charles P. Pierce so beautifully describes the lead up to Spicer’s April Ryan debacle:

Ryan asked him if the administration yet had noticed the huge pile of problems, many of them reeking of borscht, that have piled up on the South Lawn, obscuring the form of Devin Nunes, who was digging another tunnel. Spicer’s answer did not satisfy her, as it would not have satisfied anyone who has both ears, and a capacity for rational thought exceeding that of topsoil.

esquire.com

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2017 • 9:55:47pm

re: #64 austin_blue

Understood, I updinged your post to wish you the best in the very real weather conditions there. But I hoped a gentle reminder wouldn’t be taken wrong.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:22:39pm

Hallelujah!!

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:24:13pm

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Hallelujah!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:32:05pm

re: #63 electrotek

Trump does not care if actions he takes harms those other than himself or his immediate family. The possibility that people may die because of his orders does not trouble his sleep at all. But these aren’t really his orders anyway — he just signs the papers put before him. He is only concerned about receiving respect; it is being mocked that upsets him.

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majii  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:34:02pm

Kevin Drum has a post at Mother Jones in which he says California should leave undercover video activists alone. He goes on to say that CA wouldn’t investigate or indict liberals who did the same things Daleiden did. Later in the post, he says he’s not a lawyer. Since he already knows he’s not a lawyer and probably knows very little about CA’s state laws, what was the purpose of his article? I would hope that anyone who violates the laws of any state or U.S. territory would be investigated, and if they’re indicted, they would be tried. I think Drum was trying to work Americans’ 1st Amendment right to free speech into his article but got lost along the way, leaving persons like myself shaking their heads.
motherjones.com

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:36:15pm

re: #72 majii

Sniff sniff… Don’t know this guy but I smell a first amendment absolutist dudebro in action.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:37:28pm

re: #72 majii

Kevin Drum has a post at Mother Jones in which he says California should leave undercover video activists alone. He goes on to say that CA wouldn’t investigate or indict liberals who did the same things Daleiden did. Later in the post, he says he’s not a lawyer. Since he already knows he’s not a lawyer and probably knows very little about CA’s state laws, what was the purpose of his article? I would hope that anyone who violate the laws of any state or U.S. territory would be investigated, and if they’re indicted, they would be tried. I think Drum was trying to work Americans’ 1st Amendment right to free speech into his article but got lost along the way, leaving persons like myself shaking their heads.
motherjones.com

I think it leaves all of us shaking our heads. It’s not a matter of free speech, it’s a matter of entrapment, fraud, and conspiracy.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:39:26pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:48:27pm

re: #72 majii

I think Kevin Drum is actually a good reporter. His blind spot is his overt liberalism, which in the most extreme requires a modicum of understanding of your political others. And Drum did this with the article you linked to, and many writers for the big newspapers (NY Times, Wash. Post) have been trying to do this - understand the other side - since Fuckface Von Clownstick took power. I think it’s an exercise in futility right now. Trump supporters actually *love* the fact that he lies constantly, their justification being “He’s shaking up the system!”

Ugh.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:48:56pm

There’s a great old country tune by Orville Couch and Eddie McDuff (you can’t make these names up!) called Hello Trouble from 1962. She Who Must Be Obeyed has it in her Honky Tonk/Americana harp wheelhouse.

Well, here we go:

radar.weather.gov

Quite often, squall lines fall apart as they come across the Balcones Fault Complex, which is an 800’ escarpment about 20 miles to the west of Austin and then restrengthen east of town. Here’s hoping. I really don’t want to have our cars beaten up by baseball-sized hail.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 10:51:10pm

re: #77 austin_blue

There’s a great old country tune by Orville Couch and Eddie McDuff (you can’t make these names up!) called Hello Trouble from 1962.

Orville Couch - Hello Trouble

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:03:59pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

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Video

She plays that tune on this harp:

starfishdesigns.co.uk

It’s a hell of an axe. She’s got the Delacour levers that are accurate and significantly increase string longevity. And yes, it’s a $5,400 axe.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:07:53pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

I see your country-western trouble, and here’s some Aussie pop trouble.

Lenka - Trouble Is A Friend (YouTube Version)

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EPR-radar  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:12:15pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

I think Kevin Drum is actually a good reporter. His blind spot is his overt liberalism, which in the most extreme requires a modicum of understanding of your political others. And Drum did this with the article you linked to, and many writers for the big newspapers (NY Times, Wash. Post) have been trying to do this - understand the other side - since Fuckface Von Clownstick took power. I think it’s an exercise in futility right now. Trump supporters actually *love* the fact that he lies constantly, their justification being “He’s shaking up the system!”

Ugh.

It’s actually very easy to understand the Republicans these days. Willful stupidity and deliberate malice are the foundations. Tax cuts for the rich are the only fixed goal. The evils of starting pointless foreign wars and setting people at each others’ throats domestically are engaged in for entertainment and to distract people from the only goal being tax cuts for the rich. They seek only to rule, and suppress the votes of non-Republicans whenever and wherever possible.

The problem most in the mainstream media have is not a lack of understanding. It is that they dare not print or broadcast these simple truths, most likely because ownership has forbidden that.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:12:32pm

re: #79 austin_blue

When my mom was pregnant with me my dad insisted on buying a nice electric guitar to celebrate, and establish a cool heirloom. My mom hated the idea, they were already cash-strapped. My dad borrowed half the money from his dad and bought a Gibson Les Paul Custom. In 1981.

That’s the guitar I learned how to play on. It’s at my pops house, alongside his 10 other electric guitars.

His most recent purchase was a Cordoba about two years ago. He’s never told me how much he paid for it, my mother only says “several thousand dollars.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:33:25pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

When my mom was pregnant with me my dad insisted on buying a nice electric guitar to celebrate, and establish a cool heirloom. My mom hated the idea, they were already cash-strapped. My dad borrowed half the money from his dad and bought a Gibson Les Paul Custom. In 1981.

That’s the guitar I learned how to play on. It’s at my pops house, alongside his 10 other electric guitars.

His most recent purchase was a Cordoba about two years ago. He’s never told me how much he paid for it, my mother only says “several thousand dollars.”

I have a late 70’s Gibson SG that I have not played for years, or played at a gig for decades, but I wanna keep it in the family as an heirloom as well

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:44:55pm

re: #72 majii

Kevin Drum has a post at Mother Jones in which he says California should leave undercover video activists alone. He goes on to say that CA wouldn’t investigate or indict liberals who did the same things Daleiden did. Later in the post, he says he’s not a lawyer. Since he already knows he’s not a lawyer and probably knows very little about CA’s state laws, what was the purpose of his article? I would hope that anyone who violates the laws of any state or U.S. territory would be investigated, and if they’re indicted, they would be tried. I think Drum was trying to work Americans’ 1st Amendment right to free speech into his article but got lost along the way, leaving persons like myself shaking their heads.
motherjones.com

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:49:28pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

When my mom was pregnant with me my dad insisted on buying a nice electric guitar to celebrate, and establish a cool heirloom. My mom hated the idea, they were already cash-strapped. My dad borrowed half the money from his dad and bought a Gibson Les Paul Custom. In 1981.

That’s the guitar I learned how to play on. It’s at my pops house, alongside his 10 other electric guitars.

His most recent purchase was a Cordoba about two years ago. He’s never told me how much he paid for it, my mother only says “several thousand dollars.”

Axes are tools for a working musician. She Who Must Be Obeyed has one of these:

salviharps.com

which runs about $30,000;

One of these:

Pilgrim Progress 41 Pedal Harp Black gloss finish

which was +/- $7,000 when She bought it, the Starfish, and a 21-string travel harp from an Orkney luthier, which was about $1,500.

The insurance on $40,000 worth of harps is pretty steep, but these are the tools of her trade. She’s classically trained at Eastman, has been playing South American, Mexican, Middle Eastern, Spanish/Sephardic (Ladino), Honky Tonk, Texas Swing, Rock, and Celtic tunes for almost four decades.

A musical polymath, is my fair lady.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:53:56pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Your wife sounds so cool! Like, cooler than cool. Like, a black hole of squareness.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2017 • 11:58:43pm

re: #16 KGxvi

San Francisco, actually, here’s the criminal complaint for those interested.

Interesting that they’re not being charged specifically with the forgery of the California driver’s licenses or for their illegal access of the Stem Express computer network. Those facts are laid out in the supporting DOJ investigation and the Stem Express hack is listed as an element of the conspiracy count in #15, but aren’t listed (yet) as separate charges. Given the amount of time it’s taken to prepare the indictment I would’ve expected those acts to be charged as separate criminal line items.

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austin_blue  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:01:59am

re: #86 teleskiguy

Your wife sounds so cool! Like, cooler than cool. Like, a black hole of squareness.

I’m not sure a square can survive in a black hole, but, hmmm…

Oh, she also has a Masters in Public Policy from the LBJ School of Public Affairs at UT. Environmental policy wonk in water issues and air policy.

We are in mourning over Drumpf’s incredibly stupid EO today. It’s not 1959 anymore. The world has changed.

What a douche canoe.

And here we go! It’s squall line show time!

radar.weather.gov

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:04:04am

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

Interesting that they’re not being charged specifically with the forgery of the California driver’s licenses or for their illegal access of the Stem Express computer network. Those facts are laid out in the supporting DOJ investigation and the Stem Express hack is listed as an element of the conspiracy count in #15, but aren’t listed (yet) as separate charges. Given the amount of time it’s taken to prepare the indictment I would’ve expected those acts to be charged as separate criminal line items.

Drum is missing the point by ignoring the criminal actions of these people. Undercover videography is sometimes warranted to cover a story, but only as a last resort. Forging IDs in order to deceive someone and filming them answer deliberately leading questions is rightfully illegal, and unethical.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:19:12am

I wasted a half hour on this fucker.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:21:55am

re: #90 teleskiguy

Pretty sure I just blocked a big wig when it comes to Putin’s Twitter troll army. This guy (@Stredni_trida) was pretty slick, had a decent command of English.

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austin_blue  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:35:38am

Well, it’s raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock. Mostly cloud-to-cloud lightning, but occasional ground strikes. In any case I’m for the rack. Night all, sweet scaly dreams. Talk atcha tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:08:56am

Here’s a fun listicle.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:17:02am

re: #79 austin_blue

She plays that tune on this harp:

starfishdesigns.co.uk

It’s a hell of an axe. She’s got the Delacour levers that are accurate and significantly increase string longevity. And yes, it’s a $5,400 axe.

That’s a gorgeous instrument. Harp is the only stringed instrument that I find more intimidating than a pedal steel guitar. Ten strings can make me nuts, I can’t imagine what 34 would do to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:17:03am

re: #93 teleskiguy

Here’s a fun listicle.

12 Unusual Drive-Through Services

They left out this here cultural institution in Flagstaff:

Ruff’s Guns N Liquor

with a drive-thru window

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:37:22am

re: #91 teleskiguy

Pretty sure I just blocked a big wig when it comes to Putin’s Twitter troll army. This guy (@Stredni_trida) was pretty slick, had a decent command of English.

I looked through his tweets; he has some posts from parlamentní listy, a well-known far-right website here in the Czech Republic - they’re a primary source of racist and anti-Muslim propaganda.

The source of funding as well as who in fact actually owns it is, IIRC, dubious…..at best. There’s a deep suspicion among many that it has strong Kremlin ties and seeks to destabilize Czech democracy through active measures (i.e., disinformation).

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:45:30am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Thank you for the intel! I knew the fucker was skeezy. If you see my @ replies, I had a little fun, and so did the fascist.

😐

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 3:47:02am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 3:53:51am

Lamestream media doesn’t understand “Castle Doctrine”:

Facebook Post

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:21:10am

MOAR JERBS!!!!! VERRY MOAR JERBS!!!!111

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:24:00am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

nside Alabama’s auto jobs boom: cheap wages, little training, and crushed limbs

in order to compete with China and India, we have to come down to their level of work safety and environmental protection.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:25:04am

Remember when wingnuts used to spam memes of Obama, Stalin & that German guy with the mustache surrounded by little children and scream ONLY TEH DICTATORS HAS TEH PHOTO OPS WITH TEH CHILLRENS!!!!!!? Good times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:28:03am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

“Kids, I’m signing papers here that’s going to ruin the planet for you. I’m a psychopath and you will curse my name when you are older.”

And you will curse you parents for having let me anywhere near you when you were young and vulnerable…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:30:07am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

Remember when wingnuts used to spam memes of Obama, Stalin & that German guy with the mustache surrounded by little children and scream ONLY TEH DICTATORS HAS TEH PHOTO OPS WITH TEH CHILLRENS!!!!!!? Good times.

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You can forget about taking YOUR kids to visit the national parks. Better tell your parents to take you now.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:32:36am

re: #85 austin_blue

Axes are tools for a working musician. She Who Must Be Obeyed has one of these:

salviharps.com

which runs about $30,000;

One of these:

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which was +/- $7,000 when She bought it, the Starfish, and a 21-string travel harp from an Orkney luthier, which was about $1,500.

The insurance on $40,000 worth of harps is pretty steep, but these are the tools of her trade. She’s classically trained at Eastman, has been playing South American, Mexican, Middle Eastern, Spanish/Sephardic (Ladino), Honky Tonk, Texas Swing, Rock, and Celtic tunes for almost four decades.

A musical polymath, is my fair lady.

As a grad student I lived above a harpist for a couple of years. It was beautiful, but it certainly filled my apartment with sound when she practiced (and she practiced for hours). But she wasn’t going to leave her $30,000 instrument in a practice room—I understood that—so I mostly did my work in the stacks of the library. To her credit, she never practiced after 9PM.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:51:21am

re: #105 Barefoot Grin

As a grad student I lived above a harpist for a couple of years. It was beautiful, but it certainly filled my apartment with sound when she practiced (and she practiced for hours). But she wasn’t going to leave her $30,000 instrument in a practice room—I understood that—so I mostly did my work in the stacks of the library. To her credit, she never practiced after 9PM.

Buddy of mine builds instruments, including a few Irish harps, but I guess he once miscalculated the curve needed in the upper section that holds the strings, upon tuning it, it buckled and snapped on him…

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:56:44am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR JERBS!!!!! VERRY MOAR JERBS!!!!111

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Welcome to the New Guilded Age, where productivity and profit are top and worker safety is down somewhere next to restocking the soap dispensers in the employee bathrooms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 4:59:25am

re: #107 Targetpractice

Welcome to the New Guilded Age, where productivity and profit are top and worker safety is down somewhere next to restocking the soap dispensers in the employee bathrooms.

It is a matter of RWNJ faith that the three things we need to restore our economy are

1) removing government health, safety and environmental regulations
2) more tax cuts
3) putting God back in the classroom

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:03:34am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Buddy of mine builds instruments, including a few Irish harps, but I guess he once miscalculated the curve needed in the upper section that holds the strings, upon tuning it, it buckled and snapped on him…

That could be dangerous, I’d bet.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:07:24am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is a matter of RWNJ faith that the three things we need to restore our economy are

1) removing government health, safety and environmental regulations
2) more tax cuts
3) putting God back in the classroom

“What’s this guy bellyaching about? He got millions of dollars from the company! He can put his kids through collage! He’s set for life!”
“He lost part of his arm!”
“Well he should have been paying attention when doing his job, shouldn’t he? I’ve been hurt on the job before and nobody wrote me no check for millions of dollars!”
“He had no training for the job! They forced him to work it!”
“You can’t force anybody to do something they don’t want to do. He could have just refused to work the job and gone home.”
“And lost his job in the process!”
“HE HAD THE CHOICE! I ain’t got no choice, I got bills to pay and kids to put through school. If somebody told me to work a job I wasn’t trained for, I’d jump at it because I might get a raise! You damned libruls don’t understand how hard it is to get a job, so you can’t see that this was an opportunity for him!”

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:13:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:15:23am

He’s shitposting from the iPhone

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:21:57am

And the Bloomberg article pretty much answers the question of why nobody in foreign lands does anything about American companies exploiting their workers: It’s bringing jobs and money into the local economy, so why risk losing that by raising a fuss? Even the OSHA penalties seem like pocket change when you consider that a company can be fined $80,000 every minute that it fails to meet its daily quota.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:28:25am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Is he reacting to some “fake news” about his administration?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:29:51am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR JERBS!!!!! VERRY MOAR JERBS!!!!111

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And none of those deep South states have a state-ran OSHA agency which means less inspections, etc.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:30:22am

re: #114 wheat-dogg

Is he reacting to some “fake news” about his administration?

May have something to do with this:

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:33:14am

re: #116 Targetpractice

Maybe he’s worried about someone finding those skeletons in the closet somewhere.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:33:29am

re: #116 Targetpractice

May have something to do with this:

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Or maybe this:

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:37:19am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

Or maybe this:

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That sounds more like it. Trump can’t stand criticism.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:37:23am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

Or maybe this:

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More likely that. After last week’s swing-and-a-whiff with trying to look macho next to Merkel (including the asinine “NATO bill” incident), Trump doesn’t seem to be taking well the implication that America has abdicated the “leader of the free world” title.

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jeffreyw  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:38:16am

Imgur
Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:42:56am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:43:39am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:50:10am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:58:47am

re: #3 teleskiguy

Meanwhile, Sean Hannity couldn’t be reached for comment since he was among the right wing hacks who pushed this nonsense ad nauseum despite it being a fact free hack job where the only criminality was carried out by the agitprop’s creators - not Planned Parenthood.

Good thing Hannity will be covering this extensively on his next broadcast.

Oh wait. Being a right winger means never having to succumb to the facts. He and his supporters will continue in their bubble of PP baby parts bullshit.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 5:59:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:03:48am

CRYBABY IN CHIEF

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:08:38am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:13:00am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:15:07am

CRYBABY IN CHIEF

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:21:14am
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:22:39am

re: #12 austin_blue

Shiplord-

You okay up there? This squall line has been spawning tornadoes like rabbits spawn in the spring!

Sorry I missed this last night. Thanks for asking. I was ok, kept watching the alerts and especially the radar. We have a good shelter here at the farm.

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:29:37am

Bill may be onto a new nickname or hashtag:

#lousyhitler

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:30:00am

re: #99 Timothy Watson

Lamestream media doesn’t understand “Castle Doctrine”:

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The outlet does seem to be implying a lot of skepticism about the story, starting with the headline:

‘Stand Your Ground’? Oklahoma man kills 3 home burglars; woman who aided robbers arrested.

This might even invite the inference that the woman was arrested for administering first aid to the unfortunate crooks.

The facts, as given in the text, don’t leave a lot of room for doubt:

(Deputy sheriff) Mahoney said the homeowner’s 23-year-old son used an AR-15 rifle to shoot the three Monday afternoon after they broke through a glass door in the rear of the home.

Their names were not released, but Mahoney said two of the dead were 16 or 17 years old and the third was 18 or 19. The three were found wearing masks and gloves and dressed in black clothing. Brass knuckles and a knife were found among their possessions, he said.

“It looks like self-defense from the preliminary investigation, but that’s all speculative,” Mahoney said. “There’s some speculation as to whether or not that (Stand Your Ground) law applies in this case, the simple answer is I don’t know.”

If SYG doesn’t apply, it would seem that straightforward self defense, recognized in every state, would.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:32:55am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel

The outlet does seem to be implying a lot of skepticism about the story, starting with the headline:

This might even invite the inference that the woman was arrested for administering first aid to the unfortunate crooks.

The facts, as given in the text, don’t leave a lot of room for doubt:

If SYG doesn’t apply, it would seem that straightforward self defense, recognized in every state, would.

Yeah, that was my point. “Stand Your Ground” is the removal of the duty to retreat in a public venue. The Castle Doctrine, which removes the duty to retreat while in your home, has been the law of the land since before the Revolution.

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I cannot.  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:33:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:34:23am

re: #132 lawhawk

Trump wants to slash and burn the Coast Guard budget.

Coast Guard duties include drug interdiction; just made $420 million cocaine seizure

Not that I do not appreciate the job the Coast Guard does in protecting our borders, but $420 million is chump change to the cartels, and represents at best 10% of the total volume.

In other words, around $3.6 billion worth of cocaine got through…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:36:09am

How to save “Meals on Wheels” turn it into MEAL TEAM SIX

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:39:55am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:40:02am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The drug cartels are getting the drugs in by land, sea, and air, but cutting one of the departments responsible for national security and maritime safety/security is an awful way to improve national security.

A 10% hit on drug cartels is still substantial, as any investor knows :)

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:41:02am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:41:53am

Trump lies and indoctrination. Trump lies, and his supporters unequivocally believe it and recite his claims as fact.

SS/DD.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:43:41am

re: #137 I cannot.

“To me, doctors should start driving Toyotas instead of BMWs, but I’m no health care wonk.” — ryan grim on single payer to yt politics

I have mentioned this before, but my girlfriend’s cousin, a pain management doctor in Texas, just bought himself a 16,000-sq. ft. house.

My sister and brother-in-law, who had to declare bankruptcy over medical expenses (she had a bout with cancer and he was in a car accident), wound up living in a 900-square-foot rental.

But anything else would be un-American, right?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:45:22am

Looks like Daleiden has adopted the Kim Jong-un hair style.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:48:47am

re: #145 wheat-dogg

Looks like Daleiden has adopted the Kim Jong-un hair style.

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More like the Richard Spencer haircut, it just cries out PLEASE PUNCH ME!!

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:48:54am

SCIENCE!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:49:33am

re: #72 majii

Kevin Drum has a post at Mother Jones in which he says California should leave undercover video activists alone. He goes on to say that CA wouldn’t investigate or indict liberals who did the same things Daleiden did. Later in the post, he says he’s not a lawyer. Since he already knows he’s not a lawyer and probably knows very little about CA’s state laws, what was the purpose of his article? I would hope that anyone who violates the laws of any state or U.S. territory would be investigated, and if they’re indicted, they would be tried. I think Drum was trying to work Americans’ 1st Amendment right to free speech into his article but got lost along the way, leaving persons like myself shaking their heads.
motherjones.com

Maybe Drum has in mind the animal-rights activists who have gone undercover in meat-producing places and filmed abuses—undercover actions that have been specifically targeted by wingnut legislators in states where these businesses are influential.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:52:23am

re: #141 lawhawk

The drug cartels are getting the drugs in by land, sea, and air, but cutting one of the departments responsible for national security and maritime safety/security is an awful way to improve national security.

A 10% hit on drug cartels is still substantial, as any investor knows :)

I have to disagree, that is just what they plan in as an “operating expense”. Considering the obscene profits they make regardless, 10% is nothing; less than most business would pay in taxes and customs fees.

Heck, I can well imagine that they have made arrangements with certain key figures in the government to let a certain share get busted so the DEA bosses are happy with their underlings doing their jobs, meanwhile, the remaining 90% of the volume gets through without a hitch.

ask any DEA man, he’ll say there’s nothing we can do, from the office of the President, right down to me and you

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:53:55am

re: #143 lawhawk

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Trump lies and indoctrination. Trump lies, and his supporters unequivocally believe it and recite his claims as fact.

SS/DD.

Trump lies work. All he has to is say them and the delusional GOP base believes him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:53:57am

re: #148 Sir John Barron

Maybe Drum has in mind the animal-rights activists who have gone undercover in meat-producing places and filmed abuses—undercover actions that have been specifically targeted by wingnut legislators in states where these businesses are influential.

Selling dead animal parts for profit? What an abomination!!!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:54:30am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s the Invisible Hand of the market!

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ibob  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:54:48am

re: #137 I cannot.

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I already drive a Toyota.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 29, 2017 • 6:58:18am

re: #147 Franklin

SCIENCE!!!!!

[Embedded content]

AUTOMATION TAKIN ALL ARE JOBZ

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:06:21am

re: #152 wheat-dogg

It’s the Invisible Hand of the market!

exactly…in a normal market situation, 5-10% profit is outstanding…I have no idea what the profit margin is for the drug cartels, but I certain that it is several times that.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:07:38am

UPDATE:
A person attempted to run over a Capitol policeman near the Capitol, and shots were fired. The person is now in custody.

The person used a vehicle to attempt to strike officers in the 100 block of Independence Ave, D.C. police said. The incident was reported around 9:30 a.m.

Capitol Hill police then fired shots at the individual, who was taken into custody near Third Street Southwest and Independence Avenue Southwest, D.C. police said.

No one was shot during the incident, according to police.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:08:13am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:08:15am

Reading io9 and they’re “analyzing” the latest Spider-Man trailer and Spider-Man’s custom changes in different sections of the trailer.

Cue the GIFs of Marisa Tomei and quotes from My Cousin Vinny in the commments:

“Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fuckin’ bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!”

Etc.

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:12:02am

If anyone is looking for a new pod to listen to, here is a great one:

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:13:59am

re: #159 Franklin

Crooked Media in general is putting out great stuff. Even Lovett’s new show is entertaining.

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ibob  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:15:17am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have mentioned this before, but my girlfriend’s cousin, a pain management doctor in Texas, just bought himself a 16,000-sq. ft. house.

My sister and brother-in-law, who had to declare bankruptcy over medical expenses (she had a bout with cancer and he was in a car accident), wound up living in a 900-square-foot rental.

But anything else would be un-American, right?

Pain management is one the hottest areas in medicine now. You can actually get paid up front if you are in the right part of the country. Finding someone to actually manage chronic pain is difficult though. A lot of doctors who say they are managing pain are really just writing prescriptions for narcotics and eventually get closed down by the DEA. Then the patients are left out in the cold addicted to narcotics with no place to go.

Last week I saw two patients this happened to. They were both told to call me by the clinics since I had once prescribed them narcotics for surgery. Of course, I cannot write a prescription for their chronic back pain. Both of them had been told to go the ER if they went through withdrawals (which they will once the prescription runs out). They were not even from the same clinic. Two separate doctors in my area had their licences suspended in the same week.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:15:31am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

I refuse to draw conclusions about a film from the trailers. I’ve been disappointed too many times.

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:16:45am

re: #160 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Crooked Media in general is putting out great stuff. Even Lovett’s new show is entertaining.

Agreed. Excellent lineup.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:17:16am

re: #156 lawhawk

UPDATE:
A person attempted to run over a Capitol policeman near the Capitol, and shots were fired. The person is now in custody.

Near where I work. My commuter bus passed through there about 45 min before. Glad no one was killed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:17:22am

re: #162 wheat-dogg

I refuse to draw conclusions about a film from the trailers. I’ve been disappointed too many times.

the onion: ‘Iron Man’ Trailer To Be Made Into Feature Film

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:17:40am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

exactly…in a normal market situation, 5-10% profit is outstanding…I have no idea what the profit margin is for the drug cartels, but I certain that it is several times that.

Mark-up along the supply chain is probably pretty high, probably more than diamonds and fur coats. The poor sods growing the coca and pot are not getting millions for their labor, that’s for sure.

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scottslemmons  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:18:04am

re: #142 Timothy Watson

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The groundbreaking puzzle game “Myst,” for example, one of this year’s finalists, was the best-selling computer game of the 1990s, blending haunting scenery with mind-bending mysteries for players to solve. Pioneering, indeed, but it didn’t quite spawn lines of lunch box snacks or children’s apparel.

“Halo: Combat Evolved,” another finalist, was staple of dorm rooms around the country in the 2000s, but it’s probably not a name mom and dad would recognize as quickly as they might recall Pong, one of the hall of fame’s first inductees.

And the critically acclaimed “Portal,” also on the 2017 list, revolutionized the mechanics of first-person shooters when it came out in 2007, but its unique physics would likely intimidate a non-gamer more at home with the dot-munching simplicity of Pac-Man.

Sweet jesus, where to begin. Is the author, Derek Hawkins, normally such a fucking twit?

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:19:34am

re: #156 lawhawk

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UPDATE:
A person attempted to run over a Capitol policeman near the Capitol, and shots were fired. The person is now in custody.

Stand your ground?//

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:22:29am

re: #162 wheat-dogg

I refuse to draw conclusions about a film from the trailers. I’ve been disappointed too many times.

I get annoyed at the 1.5 second cuts in trailers nowadays.

A couple years ago, someone took all the Game of Thrones trailers for season 4, recut them, and set the trailer to Lorde’s cover of “Everybody Wants to Rule the World.” It was so good that some of the cast members were tweeting out links to the video before it got DMCA’d off of YouTube.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:24:37am

This case was getting national headlines because both of the accused are undocumented immigrants:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:26:12am

re: #170 Timothy Watson

This case was getting national headlines because both of the accused are undocumented immigrants:

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give us your poor, your lazy, your rapists, dealers and welfare cheats…

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:27:42am

re: #167 scottslemmons

Sweet jesus, where to begin. Is the author, Derek Hawkins, normally such a fucking twit?

Don’t know, I didn’t recognize the name. He isn’t that old judging from his profile picture on Twitter (@D_Hawk).

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ibob  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:27:44am

re: #161 ibob

Physicians and nurse practitioners don’t get paid for talking to patients and trying to actually diagnose and treat a problem anymore. You only get paid for procedures. If you don’t do procedures, then you have to run people in and out of the office to just break even. Another problem is EMR (electronic medical records). It actually takes longer to do ERM than to dictate a note.

I actually make less and work longer hours than I did 20 years ago. Fortunately, I really like helping people. It makes it all worthwhile when someone tells me I made a difference in their life.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:28:16am

re: #156 lawhawk

UPDATE:
A person attempted to run over a Capitol policeman near the Capitol, and shots were fired. The person is now in custody.

So. hitting someones car is now an attempt to “run them over”?

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:30:10am

re: #173 ibob

Physicians and nurse practitioners don’t get paid for talking to patients and trying to actually diagnose and treat a problem anymore. You only get paid for procedures. If you don’t do procedures, then you have to run people in and out of the office to just break even. Another problem is EMR (electronic medical records). It actually takes longer to do ERM than to dictate a note.

I actually make less and work longer hours than I did 20 years ago. Fortunately, I really like helping people. It makes it all worthwhile when someone tells me I made a difference in their life.

You’ve had someone to dictate notes to? My doctor just brings in a laptop, or the room has a computer, where they can bring up my information and add to it.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:30:57am

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

So. hitting someones car is now an attempt to “run them over”?

You can hit a car AND attempt to run someone over.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:32:58am

re: #157 makeitstop

I hate to say it might take another 20 months for this nightmare to end, but KO is probably right. I’m not expecting a major development in the TrumpRussia scandals, or the emoluments scandals soon, and even if there were, there’s not enough outrage about them yet to bring Trump down. It would have to be some major, black-or-white fiasco, and not all this constant drip, drip, drip of shady deals, to really force Trump out before the midterms. People losing their health insurance would have been that black-or-white fiasco, and for now, the GOP and Trump have pushed that to the back burner.

No, it’s going to be the Republicans staring at the imminent loss of their jobs that will get them moving against Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:33:06am
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b.d.  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:35:08am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart

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“Hey neighbor, let me build a fence on your property because I don’t like you and I don’t want the fence to ruin my stuff.”

Yep, that’ll fly….

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:35:51am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart

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Full story:
eenews.net

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:36:58am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart

Seems more like he’s saying there won’t be a wall:

At the same time, Zinke suggested the wall would not be as big or impassible as the president believes is necessary to stop illegal immigrants.

“The border is complicated, as far as building a physical wall,” he said. “The Rio Grande, what side of the river are you going to put the wall? We’re not going to put it on our side and cede the river to Mexico. And we’re probably not going to put it in the middle of the river.”

Electronic defenses may be more appropriate in some areas, Zinke said. Others with imposing physical features may not require additional reinforcements.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:37:36am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart

As usual, Trump & Co. are going to fuck up the details of their grandiose plans.

Obamacare Repeal, chapter 2

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:38:46am

re: #181 Timothy Watson

Seems more like he’s saying there won’t be a wall:

The Wall, like the Muslim Ban and the invoice he presented to Germany for NATO, are all symbolic acts to show how MAGA-rrific Donald Trump is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:42:08am

OFFICIAL CRYBABY IN CHIEF CRYING LIKE A BABY ABOUT MEDIA MEANYHEADS

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SteveMcG RN  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:42:29am

re: #173 ibob

Physicians and nurse practitioners don’t get paid for talking to patients and trying to actually diagnose and treat a problem anymore. You only get paid for procedures. If you don’t do procedures, then you have to run people in and out of the office to just break even. Another problem is EMR (electronic medical records). It actually takes longer to do ERM than to dictate a note.

I actually make less and work longer hours than I did 20 years ago. Fortunately, I really like helping people. It makes it all worthwhile when someone tells me I made a difference in their life.

Granted the free schedules are lower than thesalad days of the 80s but docs bill 99212 213 Anschluss 214 all the time and same with the hospital consult codes for E&M

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:43:42am

re: #186 Varek Raith

Good morning

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Now THAT’S global warming!

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:44:11am

re: #181 Timothy Watson

It’s saying that we have no clue how this wall thing will be implemented, and that natural borders like rivers and mountains and deserts will be part of the wall.

There was a John Oliver segment a while back about this, where the border was so convoluted in parts where the Rio Grande bends in places, that you could conceivably have US territory cut off from the US.

The river flow is determined by treaty, as is the border itself. The whole notion of a fence would mean the US effectively ceding territory to Mexico to build the wall, since there’s no way Mexico will go for having a wall they don’t want and certainly wont pay for, on their territory (and losing territory/access to the river that is the official border).

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SteveMcG RN  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:46:20am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

MAGArific! I like that

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:49:22am

re: #188 lawhawk

It’s saying that we have no clue how this wall thing will be implemented, and that natural borders like rivers and mountains and deserts will be part of the wall.

There was a John Oliver segment a while back about this, where the border was so convoluted in parts where the Rio Grande bends in places, that you could conceivably have US territory cut off from the US.

The river flow is determined by treaty, as is the border itself. The whole notion of a fence would mean the US effectively ceding territory to Mexico to build the wall, since there’s no way Mexico will go for having a wall they don’t want and certainly wont pay for, on their territory (and losing territory/access to the river that is the official border).

Texas landowners along the Rio Grande are not going to want a steenkin’ wall in their backyards.

The whole idea of a 2,000-mile wall separating two allies has to be the all-time dumbest idea in the history of humankind. Considering the standard federal government cost overruns, the wall would bankrupt the nation, even if it could be built.

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SteveMcG RN  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:49:35am

Maybe we can just stock the Rio Grande with I’ll-tempered sea bass.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:50:11am

re: #191 SteveMcG RN

Maybe we can judt stock your the Rio Grande with I’ll-tempered sea bass.

With frickin’ lasers!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:51:43am

Time for teacher to go to bed. See you all later!

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I cannot.  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:52:54am

re: #192 wheat-dogg

Due to budget cutbacks the frickin’ lasers have been replaced with .50 cal machine guns.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 7:56:53am

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

If the people of our great country could only see how viciously and inaccurately my administration is covered by certain media! -DJT

— President Trump

Dude, this was dumb enough when tweeted from your personal account. No need to defile the official POTUS account with this childish drivel.

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allegro  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:02:43am

re: #195 Sir John Barron

Dude, this was dumb enough when tweeted from your personal account. No need to defile the official POTUS account with this childish drivel.

I dunno. I gotta agree with him. Fox news is vicious and inaccurate.

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:04:09am

re: #173 ibob

Physicians and nurse practitioners don’t get paid for talking to patients and trying to actually diagnose and treat a problem anymore. You only get paid for procedures. If you don’t do procedures, then you have to run people in and out of the office to just break even. Another problem is EMR (electronic medical records). It actually takes longer to do ERM than to dictate a note.

I actually make less and work longer hours than I did 20 years ago. Fortunately, I really like helping people. It makes it all worthwhile when someone tells me I made a difference in their life.

A friend of my daughter is a family physician and apparently spends half her working hours telling patients she won’t write them a prescription for narcotics for their “back pain.” Makes my daughter happy she’s a pediatrician.

I just finished reading Dreamland by Sam Quinones about the opiod addiction epidemic in middle America. I thought the first section was less interesting than the rest of the book, but I was happy I stuck with it as it was, overall, an interesting read.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:06:39am
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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:07:55am

re: #191 SteveMcG RN

Maybe we can judt stock the Rio Grande with I’ll-tempered sea bass.

Pirhana.

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:09:32am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart

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Interior Secretary Zinke is an idiot. End of story.

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Interesting Times  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:09:50am

re: #197 calochortus

Speaking of healthcare…

Ms Brotherwood spent three years working in a cystic fibrosis clinic in Los Angeles, after working at Dr Stephenson’s clinic in Toronto.

The differences, she says, were striking.

In Canada, I make clinical decisions. I look at their case and I decide whether or not they would benefit from meeting with me. There, the decision is driven by their insurance,” she says.

Ms Brotherwood says she had to forgo seeing patients who were in real need, just because they did not have the coverage.

Although the decade-long Canadian advantage seen in cystic fibrosis study is striking, numerous studies have shown that Canadians tend to outlive their American counterparts.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), Canadians live almost three years longer than Americans overall.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:09:51am

Isn’t this the plot to like every workplace massacre movie?
Company president puts inexperienced son in-law in position over tenured veteran executives in organization

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:12:21am

re: #201 Interesting Times

Yeah, I heard about that. Who’d have thunk managing healthcare using something other than maximizing profits as a criterion would have better outcomes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:13:31am

re: #203 calochortus

Yeah, I heard about that. Who’d have thunk managing healthcare using something other than maximizing profits as a criterion would have better outcomes.

Who’d have thunk that the Free Market could not do anything and everything better than some government-regulated system?

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allegro  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:14:30am

re: #203 calochortus

Yeah, I heard about that. Who’d have thunk managing healthcare using something other than maximizing profits as a criterion would have better outcomes.

That would seem to be one of those things to file under “Duh”.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:14:34am

When Democrats attack.

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:15:21am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #205 allegro

But, FREEDOM!!!!!!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:17:59am

The other day I got a call from a blocked number. I decided to answer it out of curiosity, saying “Hello?”

“Hi, is this Timothy?”

Being hesitant to answer “Yes” given that scam which was going around, I ask, “Who is this?”

“Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.”

At this point, I’m actually angry and hang up.

Motherfucker, if you’re going to call and try to get money out of me, don’t fucking call from a blocked number. Second, don’t start your phone calls off like you’re goddamn scammer either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:19:03am

re: #207 calochortus

But, FREEDOM!!!!!!

individual freedom (GOP AHCA version) = the freedom for individuals and families to negotiate one-on-one for terms of coverage with health care insurance providers whose CEOs earn more in one week than most of us earn in a year…

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:20:38am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think we all know our worth as individuals is directly related to our earning power, so that would be reasonable, right?
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:21:21am

re: #210 calochortus

I think we all know our worth as individuals is directly related to our earning power, so that would be reasonable, right?
/

wealth is an outer sign of inner grace and moral superiority over the rest of us lumpen proletarians…

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Interesting Times  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:22:32am

re: #208 Timothy Watson

Totally understandable response. If they ever do call again, you could answer and say:

1) Don’t call from a blocked number
2) Don’t sound like a scammer phishing for IVR material
3) Filibuster Gorsuch or fuck off.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:23:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:24:39am

LOLWUT

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:25:27am

This seems problematic

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:25:52am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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She should know.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:26:25am

Weirdo

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:28:22am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Melania speaking at an “International Women of Courage” event? I think I’ll start drinking at 11:30 am today.

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:29:52am

re: #217 Stanley Sea

Weirdo

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Sounds like the Billy Graham rule (not being alone with a woman) on steroids.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:30:30am

re: #188 lawhawk

It’s saying that we have no clue how this wall thing will be implemented, and that natural borders like rivers and mountains and deserts will be part of the wall.

There was a John Oliver segment a while back about this, where the border was so convoluted in parts where the Rio Grande bends in places, that you could conceivably have US territory cut off from the US.

The river flow is determined by treaty, as is the border itself. The whole notion of a fence would mean the US effectively ceding territory to Mexico to build the wall, since there’s no way Mexico will go for having a wall they don’t want and certainly wont pay for, on their territory (and losing territory/access to the river that is the official border).

While still half asleep this morning I thought I heard on the radio that contractor proposals to build the wall were due today or tomorrow. I wonder if any of those proposals will see public release? It will be interesting to see how contractors interpret this project.

Horrifying, also, probably. It’s going to look worse on paper and in the walk-thru video.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:32:10am

re: #217 Stanley Sea

Trust issues. Definitely trust issues.

Mother?

Danzig - Mother

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:33:10am

re: #217 Stanley Sea

Weirdo

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I think it’s fine that he recognizes that he has no self control and has his wife keep an eye on him. My problem is that he’s going to assume everyone else is just like him. For example, Mr. C. does not need a ‘minder’ when he is out without me and it would be foolish to require him to adhere to Pence’s safeguards.
This is how we start blaming women for being too dangerous to let out without a man, or without being covered head to toe. Seems to me we should require men without self control to stay in, or have a chaperone.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:37:06am

re: #198 Teukka

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Looks optimistic.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:38:52am

re: #222 calochortus

Without putting too fine a point on this, Pence’s view of women is highly misogynistic.

He has no self control, so women must police their behaviors around him to keep him in check.

Therefore, all women must adhere to the same view.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:39:27am

re: #217 Stanley Sea

Weirdo

@AshleyRParker
Mike Pence never dines alone w a woman not his wife, nor does he attends events w alcohol, w/o her by his side

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:39:57am

re: #221 lawhawk

Trust issues. Definitely trust issues.

Mother?

Pence actually calls his wife ‘mother’ when in the presence of others.

Like Stanley said - weirdo.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:40:29am

re: #208 Timothy Watson

The other day I got a call from a blocked number. I decided to answer it out of curiosity, saying “Hello?”

“Hi, is this Timothy?”

Being hesitant to answer “Yes” given that scam which was going around, I ask, “Who is this?”

“Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.”

At this point, I’m actually angry and hang up.

Motherfucker, if you’re going to call and try to get money out of me, don’t fucking call from a blocked number. Second, don’t start your phone calls off like you’re goddamn scammer either.

Whenever I get a call where someone asks for me or asks who they’re talking to I just reply “Regarding?” It doesn’t reveal any info and it puts them off guard, asking them for info before I’ve given them anything.

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calochortus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:40:49am

Well, my coffee cup is empty. My signal that it is time to get on with what needs to be done.
BBL

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:41:02am

re: #222 calochortus

I think it’s fine that he recognizes that he has no self control and has his wife keep an eye on him. My problem is that he’s going to assume everyone else is just like him. For example, Mr. C. does not need a ‘minder’ when he is out without me and it would be foolish to require him to adhere to Pence’s safeguards.
This is how we start blaming women for being too dangerous to let out without a man, or without being covered head to toe. Seems to me we should require men without self control to stay in, or have a chaperone.

Maybe Pence doesn’t have any self-control, and that’s why he has a chaperone.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:41:24am

re: #220 stpaulbear

Bids are due today. I’m sure it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, as companies that have zero experience in construction will seek a slice of government pork, while those that have experience decide the fallout from working on this project isn’t worth the cost (as some states/localities warn that doing work on the wall might mean they lose future business with the state/locality)

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:42:12am

re: #226 makeitstop

Pence actually calls his wife ‘mother’ when in the presence of others.

Like Stanley said - weirdo.

That’s my point. And I agree. It’s weird.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:42:14am

re: #225 FormerDirtDart

You could insert “Conservative Muslim” and it would still read the same.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:43:44am

re: #227 stpaulbear

Whenever I get a call where someone asks for me or asks who they’re talking to I just reply “Regarding?” It doesn’t reveal any info and it puts them off guard, asking them for info before I’ve given them anything.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #218 Timothy Watson

Melania speaking at an “International Women of Courage” event? I think I’ll start drinking at 11:30 am today.

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She’s the event’s example of how things can go horribly wrong. Seems like the audience for an event of that name would mostly be listening to Melania out of curiosity.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:45:46am

re: #230 lawhawk

I’m already speculating the bid winner will have ties to Trumps companies or Russian interests or both.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:47:23am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

There aren’t that many companies that do the kind of work that is required (you’d need lots of concrete and steel, plus fabrication and logistics). That drops number of qualified contractors down to a handful.

Even if you do this as design/build, there’s a limited number of companies that’d qualify or are situated to where it even makes sense to want to do this contract.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:47:35am

re: #230 lawhawk

Bids are due today. I’m sure it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, as companies that have zero experience in construction will seek a slice of government pork, while those that have experience decide the fallout from working on this project isn’t worth the cost (as some states/localities warn that doing work on the wall might mean they lose future business with the state/locality)

My sister has seen the bid request by the government. She says if that type of request had been put out by her she would have been fired.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:49:21am

re: #236 lawhawk

Whatever company wins it will probably subcontract the fuck out of it. That could get intresting, especially where the potential of foreign labor is involved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:50:16am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

“Wherever women are diminished pussies are grabbed, the entire world is diminished grabbed with them.” Melania Trump, speaking at the State Dept

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:50:22am
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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:51:35am

re: #230 lawhawk

Bids are due today. I’m sure it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions, as companies that have zero experience in construction will seek a slice of government pork, while those that have experience decide the fallout from working on this project isn’t worth the cost (as some states/localities warn that doing work on the wall might mean they lose future business with the state/locality)

600 proposals! It’ll be interesting to watch when 500 lower bids are thrown out in order to award to a company with direct ties to the Trump admin.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:52:31am

re: #220 stpaulbear

While still half asleep this morning I thought I heard on the radio that contractor proposals to build the wall were due today or tomorrow. I wonder if any of those proposals will see public release? It will be interesting to see how contractors interpret this project.

Horrifying, also, probably. It’s going to look worse on paper and in the walk-thru video.

The RFP was only for a “prototype”.
securitydebrief.com

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:52:32am

re: #237 Belafon

The request for bids is here.

The request actually includes both a concrete wall and some version of a see-through/transparent wall (aka a fence). Some of this may go towards replacing the existing barrier/fence/wall that was previously authorized and built.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:52:36am

re: #181 Timothy Watson

Seems more like he’s saying there won’t be a wall:

Let’s assume everyone in the whole country really wanted to seal off 2000 miles of border.
Building a physical wall is about the stupidest imaginable way to do it.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:53:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:54:00am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Let’s assume everyone in the whole country really wanted to seal off 2000 miles of border.
Building a physical wall is about the stupidest imaginable way to do it.

Especially while cutting funding for the Coast Guard

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:54:16am

re: #241 stpaulbear

600 proposals! It’ll be interesting to watch when 500 lower bids are thrown out in order to award to a company with direct ties to the Trump Putin admin.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:55:46am

re: #225 FormerDirtDart

Our VP doesn’t trust himself around women so he removes temptation instead of exerting self-control. He & Trump are dif sides of same coin

— Nell Scovell

Not to defend Pence here, but the mindset is more about appearances and minimizing opportunities for rumors, etc. It limits the room for opponents (within and without the administration) to speculate about his doings, avoids the usual whisperings about who’s cavorting with who, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:57:12am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:58:06am

re: #248 Sir John Barron

Agreed. Heck, even I am careful to an extent where I go and what I do with single women. If I am alone with one, the door stays open.

That’s my personal choice though and I would never force it on anyone else.

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electrotek  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:59:06am

Of course, this will go unheard within the dumbass wingnut circles. Of course the Iranian shah-loving exiles in LA would be pleased to hear of this news:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:59:11am

re: #248 Sir John Barron

Not to defend Pence here, but the mindset is more about appearances and minimizing opportunities for rumors, etc. It limits the room for opponents (within and without the administration) to speculate about his doings, avoids the usual whisperings about who’s cavorting with who, etc.

“Caesar’s wife VP must be above suspicion.”

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allegro  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:08:51am

re: #241 stpaulbear

600 proposals! It’ll be interesting to watch when 500 lower bids are thrown out in order to award to a company with direct ties to the Trump admin Donnie Jr.

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:09:40am

“Wherever women are diminished, say in the workplace, or maybe in the penthouse of Trump Tower for example, wherever…”

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:10:11am

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

Or foreign steel (like steel imported from Russia that goes into a new port in Southern NJ), but transported to a fabricator in PA where it’s transformed into the ultimate product used by a consumer here.

Does that steel billet coming from Russia lose its identity because a domestic company modifies it for final use?

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:11:12am

Let’s imagine if Bill kept Hillary around like that. Yes, we’d still have Whitewater, but we wouldn’t have Monica.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:16:22am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:27:59am

OT: I am enjoying a day off today. I scheduled this day off because I was supposed to get my new TV today. It came yesterday. It is a Samsung and it was a snap to set up. The picture is beautiful and the sound is better than the old LG. I attached my powered antenna and it loaded up all available channels. Of course I checked to see if my favorite PBS stations were loaded and they were. I enjoyed watching a re-run of Downton Abbey.

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caseyjr  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:33:09am

re: #94 makeitstop

That’s a gorgeous instrument. Harp is the only stringed instrument that I find more intimidating than a pedal steel guitar. Ten strings can make me nuts, I can’t imagine what 34 would do to me.

the proverb goes : harpists spend 1/2their time tuning, and replacing strings, the other half playing an out-of-tune harp.
A good friend of mine is a harpist. A few years back he got a small inheritance which allowed him to commission a new harp. He also has two antique ones, which are amazing.

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:37:46am

La Jefa = The Boss, feminine form.

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jeffreyw  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:43:18am

re: #227 stpaulbear

Whenever I get a call where someone asks for me or asks who they’re talking to I just reply “Regarding?” It doesn’t reveal any info and it puts them off guard, asking them for info before I’ve given them anything.

Whenever I get a call asking for someone by name I always ask “who are you and what do you want?’ It used to be common courtesy to ID yourself and give the reason for the call, these days they most often seem flustered that I would care, let alone ask.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:43:39am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:46:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:46:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:51:02am

Was Trump joking when he said making a deal on health care would be easy? Spicer: “It was a lighthearted moment” cnn.it

good to know that healthcare is something to joke about.
We’re all just laughing and laughing…

Right?

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:54:19am

re: #259 caseyjr

the proverb goes : harpists spend 1/2their time tuning, and replacing strings, the other half playing an out-of-tune harp.
A good friend of mine is a harpist. A few years back he got a small inheritance which allowed him to commission a new harp. He also has two antique ones, which are amazing.

Happily, guitar prices don’t approach harp prices (with certain exceptions). I’ve got a couple that cost ‘multiple thousands’ (to quote teleskiguy from last night), but most of mine came with more manageable price tags.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:54:46am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

good to know that healthcare is something to joke about.
We’re all just laughing and laughing…

Right?

Spicer isn’t repeating any policy from Trump, he’s just reacting to whoever asks him questions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:55:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:00:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:07:16am
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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:08:25am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:09:36am

re: #271 Franklin

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Sad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:11:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:11:24am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:13:05am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Despite his promise Monday, Spicer says he still doesn’t have any info on how Nunes got on White House grounds to review intelligence info

— Manu Raju

Something something Russian dressing something.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:14:51am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pete Souza throwing some shade at Bullshit Spice (again).

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:15:02am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, there was the whole invasion period of Iraq and quieting the insurrection 2004-2006, I think the US forces were probably fighting a lot then.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:16:01am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:16:09am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@PressSec dodges on what POTUS meant. Acosta notes that US troops are supposed to be in advisory/support role

— Zeke Miller

DT has no idea what US troops are doing anywhere. He’s spending all his time on the twitters whining about the media.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:16:16am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s something that isn’t a joke. Dems already passed a healthcare bill. And it’s called the ACA.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:16:26am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:18:07am

re: #277 Sir John Barron

Also, there was the whole invasion period of Iraq and quieting the insurrection 2004-2006, I think the US forces were probably fighting a lot then.

/

4400+ servicemembers couldn’t be reached for comment. They died in service during Operation Iraqi Freedom. 30,000+ others were injured during combat in Iraq.

For Trump to suggest that they’re fighting there now like never before is an insult to all those who have served, not only in Iraq but elsewhere. It’s doubly insulting once you recall Trump got multiple deferments to avoid service in Vietnam.

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electrotek  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:18:39am

re: #281 lawhawk

I want to see how Iranian Trump supporters in LA rationalize their vote when their kin will be the most affected by his white-bred supporters who are still stuck in 1979.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:22:40am

re: #283 electrotek

Just don’t remind the Trumpers that Rudy is representing an Iranian in court.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:23:43am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:25:13am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

NUNES TO NBC: “it appears like the Democrats aren’t really serious about this investigation” pic.twitter.com

— Bradd Jaffy

Says the guy who won’t reveal his super duper secret surveillance information.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:26:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:27:49am

that didn’t take very long:

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KGxvi  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:28:35am

re: #60 electrotek

I posted this yesterday so this is still relevant with the discussion:

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Many of us Muslims can be self-absorbed hypocrites who only use liberalism when it suits us and discard it when it doesn’t. It usually comes into motion when bringing up forced hijab policies in Iran and Saudi Arabia and how some of them justify it by claiming they aren’t liberal democracies..so therefore that makes it okay.

Um, no it doesn’t.

A lot of people can be self-absorbed hypocrites that use liberalism or the products of liberalism when it suits them and then discard them when it doesn’t. Social conservatives of all stripes have been doing this for a while.

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:28:49am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course Trump refused to disavow David Duke and the KKK. Duke and the KKK are an important part of Trump’s constituency and of the Republican party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:29:30am

*blink*

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:30:30am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

that didn’t take very long:

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Just had to let the fires die down a little.

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:31:06am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is ridiculous, even for Spicer. The only ‘leadership’ Trump has ever demonstrated is leading the way to one of his own golf courses.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:31:15am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

that didn’t take very long:

about as long as a Twitter suspension of a wingnut troll.

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:31:42am

re: #281 lawhawk

[Deranged? Not clear. 100% Trump fan, so maybe? ]

A disgrace to the cycling community!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:32:18am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

was a leader in the effort to call Brexit’

so, DT was a “leader” in the “effort” to…predict something?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:33:31am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

so, DT was a “leader” in the “effort” to…predict something?

that is impressive…just by expressing his support for it, he helped make it happen!!!

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:33:32am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

so, DT was a “leader” in the “effort” to…predict something?

To be fair to Trump, that is a pretty standard level of leadership for CEOs.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:34:16am

re: #85 austin_blue

Axes are tools for a working musician. She Who Must Be Obeyed has one of these:

salviharps.com

which runs about $30,000;

One of these:

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which was +/- $7,000 when She bought it, the Starfish, and a 21-string travel harp from an Orkney luthier, which was about $1,500.

The insurance on $40,000 worth of harps is pretty steep, but these are the tools of her trade. She’s classically trained at Eastman, has been playing South American, Mexican, Middle Eastern, Spanish/Sephardic (Ladino), Honky Tonk, Texas Swing, Rock, and Celtic tunes for almost four decades.

A musical polymath, is my fair lady.

I have a 36 string Goldsberry Mountain Lupine neo-Celtic harp. Her name is Deirdre. :)

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:39:02am

re: #299 Scottish Dragon

I have a 36 string Goldsberry Mountain Lupine neo-Celtic harp. Her name is Deirdre. :)

21 strings, 36 strings - the most I have on one instrument is 12. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:40:00am

HURR HURR HOW KOME BILLO HAS TO APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING FUN OF MAXINE WATERS BUT TEH LEFTIST MAKE FUN OF DONALD TRUMP HAIR & CALLS HIM “ORANGE” & THAY DONTS HAS TO!!!!! SO MUCH TEH RACISTS & UNFAIRS!!!!11!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:40:40am

Oh hell NO. (By that, I mean hell YES!!!!)

It Movie Trailer #1 2017 - Stephen King, Drama Horror Movie HD

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:41:08am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jason Karsh @jkarsh
Spicer is saying it’s a slippery slope asking for an investigation because ‘if you ask this question, it just leads to more questions.’

When is someone going to ask Spicer if he’s always been this incurious about everything or is he just that way now because he gets paid for it.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:43:14am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HOW KOME BILLO HAS TO APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING FUN OF MAXINE WATERS BUT TEH LEFTIST MAKE FUN OF DONALD TRUMP HAIR & CALLS HIM “ORANGE” & THAY DONTS HAS TO!!!!! SO MUCH TEH RACISTS & UNFAIRS!!!!11!!!!

If someone will prove to me that Trump has no way not to be orange, that it’s a medical condition, I’ll stop calling him that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:44:29am

re: #304 Belafon

If someone will prove to me that Trump has no way not to be orange, that it’s a medical condition, I’ll stop calling him that.

Or he belongs to a race of orange people who are born that way.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:46:10am

He chooses to be orange colored, but he and his whole family were born Douchebag-Americans.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:46:40am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh hell NO. (By that, I mean hell YES!!!!)

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Video

Whoa back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:46:46am

I suppose this is some of that “steeped in world affairs” Spicey was talking about….

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:48:29am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh hell NO. (By that, I mean hell YES!!!!)

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Video

F*CK THAT! (and that’s a yes for me too).

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:50:00am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suppose this is some of that “steeped in world affairs” Spicey was talking about….

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April Ryan can deliver messages to the CBC. So Dershowitz can be the messenger for Israel. Got it.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:51:48am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suppose this is some of that “steeped in world affairs” Spicey was talking about….

As Dersh is a Bibi confident or because Dersh is a Juice, and all the juice know each other?

///

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scottslemmons  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:52:16am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh hell NO. (By that, I mean hell YES!!!!)

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Video

There we go.

I’ve heard people spend the last few days getting excited about entirely pedestrian trailers for Justice League and Spider-Man, and goddamn, this is the one that really has the juice. I want more, more, more, more, more, more of this, and that’s exactly what a trailer is supposed to do.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:52:17am

re: #310 Franklin

April Ryan can deliver messages to the CBC. So Dershowitz can be the messenger for Israel. Got it.

Or some other Juice can deliver the message. Whatever.

///

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Franklin  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:52:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:55:05am

Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. now has a formidable foe if he wants to run for another term.

Former Milwaukee Police Capt. Earnell Lucas, a vice president for Major League Baseball, is planning to challenge Clarke in the 2018 Democratic primary, according to his campaign adviser.

“Earnell hasn’t announced, but he’s decided to get into this race,” said Sachin Chheda, a political strategist at Nation Consulting. “Earnell is in the process of getting organized.”

Already in campaign mode, Chheda described Lucas as “a dignified man with gravitas, as opposed to what we have now.” Lucas did not return a call for comment.

A Clarke adviser said the sheriff had no comment on Lucas’ candidacy. Clarke and Lucas would have served together in the Milwaukee Police Department for decades and been promoted to leadership roles under then-Chief Arthur Jones before they left in 2002.

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:56:12am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:57:21am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What are campaign finance laws like in Wisconsin? Would I be able to donate to his campaign fund?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:01:01am

re: #300 makeitstop

21 strings, 36 strings - the most I have on one instrument is 12. :)

The same joke about time spent tuning and playing out of tune applies?

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plansbandc  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:01:18am

Republicans: Lowering the bar every single day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:01:57am

re: #312 scottslemmons

There we go.

I’ve heard people spend the last few days getting excited about entirely pedestrian trailers for Justice League and Spider-Man, and goddamn, this is the one that really has the juice. I want more, more, more, more, more, more of this, and that’s exactly what a trailer is supposed to do.

I actually saw an Internet discussion (on Jezebel I think but I’m not sure) about, no really, Wonder Woman’s hairless armpits. “Feminists” were complaining that if Wonder Woman was a true Warrior she wouldn’t waste time or energy shaving her pits.

Gal Gadot asked about this, shrugged and said “According to Greek mythology, which is fiction, Amazons amputated their right breast in order to be better at archery, so should the movie have done that too? They are fantasy goddesses, maybe they never grow armpit hair?”

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EmmaAnne  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:03:14am

re: #248 Sir John Barron

Not to defend Pence here, but the mindset is more about appearances and minimizing opportunities for rumors, etc. It limits the room for opponents (within and without the administration) to speculate about his doings, avoids the usual whisperings about who’s cavorting with who, etc.

And it has the lovely side effect of reducing women’s employment opportunities dramatically, so win-win!

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:03:14am

re: #318 Barefoot Grin

The same joke about time spent tuning and playing out of tune applies?

Less tuning time, more out-of-tune playing time. :)

I usually keep the 12-strings in their cases and play the six-string ones, though.

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:03:26am
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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:03:50am

Today’s Fox Insider email, complaining about the horrible unfairness of comparing one nepotistic family to another.

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EmmaAnne  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:04:24am

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

They are fantasy goddesses, maybe they never grow armpit hair?”

Honestly, I’d choose that as one of my superpowers.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:04:31am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NPR had Hugh Hewitt on this morning to dispense the same bullshit talking point. Here we go. It’s the Democrats who are politicizing the investigation; it’s the Democrats who obstruct SCOTUS appointments…. I almost burned my throat with acid reflux hearing that.

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Jack Burton  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:05:08am

re: #323 Kragar

“I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my essence.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:05:29am

re: #13 Jay C

“Thousands of armed fanatics?” Please… Regardless of Daleiden’s “connections” very few of these “pro-lifers” ever bother to do more than post angry BS on Facebook and Twitter. Look at the turnout for the “pro-Trump” rallies we’ ve seen of late: attendance in triple digits is usually an over count.
We shouldn’t dismiss the possibility of SOME sort of violent reaction at SOME time: but a sort of White Terror? Unlikely..

I thought Bundy Ranch had disposed of this kind of argument. There were a couple of hundred armed fanatics there and abortion is an incomparably more important issue to RWNJs than the land (grabbing) rights of a few western cattle barons. The “pro-lifers” are essentially the entire right-wing. It didn’t come to a shoot-out at Bundy Ranch only because the government backed down. That is not an option for the State of California in a criminal proceeding.
Pro-Trump rallies are a bad comparison, the guy is already President so there is no “cause” to push and, more importantly, such rallies are positive by nature and therefore less appealing to the anger-addicted Fox masses.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:05:46am

re: #322 makeitstop

Less tuning time, more out-of-tune playing time. :)

I usually keep the 12-strings in their cases and play the six-string ones, though.

I borrowed one for a recording once. It stayed well in tune and added a nice lush background to an otherwise boring piece.

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:08:11am
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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:10:20am

re: #329 Barefoot Grin

I borrowed one for a recording once. It stayed well in tune and added a nice lush background to an otherwise boring piece.

They sound great, I just don’t get much call to play them. Both of mine are pretty old and beat up, but the most beat up of the pair (a 70s Epiphone Texan) sounds absolutely incredible. It’s just kinda hard to look at. :)

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:12:28am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:12:37am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:13:38am

re: #324 jaunte

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Today’s Fox Insider email, complaining about the horrible unfairness of comparing one nepotistic family to another.

Poor little snowflakes at Fox are having sadz. :(

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:15:04am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart

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What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:15:36am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:15:41am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:15:47am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

Poor little snowflakes at Fox are having sadz. :(

Indeed the people who cry about everyone being so offended will be offended most by this.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:15:49am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

Giving toys to undeserving poor children.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:16:18am

re: #337 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Yes.

Well played, as I intended.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:16:40am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Giving toys to undeserving poor children.

Moochers!

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:17:00am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Santa, The Great Redistributor.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:17:29am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

Who cares? Their heads will explode whichever it is….
*ducks*

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:17:32am

re: #330 Kragar

Any day with news of a Republican getting indicted is a good news day.

Any day with news of a Republican getting convicted is a great news day.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:17:49am

Plausible
//

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:18:37am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

Plausible
//

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Whiskey.
Tango.
Foxtrot.

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:19:19am

re: #342 jaunte

Santa, The Great Redistributor.

I hope the elves don’t play ping pong or eat pizza. We’d have another ‘-gate’.

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:19:30am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

We really don’t need to hear this shit from the woman who won’t divorce POTUS* Pussy Grabber because $$$.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:20:12am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

Plausible
//

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How much does the Kremlin pay, Rick?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:20:56am

re: #343 Teukka

Who cares? Their heads will explode whichever it is….
*ducks*

I was trying to an elicit a “yes.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:21:00am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HOW KOME BILLO HAS TO APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING FUN OF MAXINE WATERS BUT TEH LEFTIST MAKE FUN OF DONALD TRUMP HAIR & CALLS HIM “ORANGE” & THAY DONTS HAS TO!!!!! SO MUCH TEH RACISTS & UNFAIRS!!!!11!!!!

He does not have to apologize, either, he has just decided that it is better for his overall image.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:21:02am

re: #342 jaunte

Santa, The Great Redistributor.

Henrik Dorsin med Gävle Symfoniorkester - Tomten är en kommunist (Lyric Video)

Title is “Santa is a Commie”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:21:38am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

As Dersh is a Bibi confident or because Dersh is a Juice, and all the juice know each other?

///

Just like all the blacks are friends with the Black Caucus

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:22:58am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

How much does the Kremlin pay, Rick?

If we survive the presidency* of Trump, I imagine Peter Thiel will eventually run for president. When that happens, it will be easy for him to buy all the RWNJ preachers with a bit of his pocket change.

The hypocrisy of those preachers at that time will be one for the record books.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:24:19am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

The fact that they are fairy-tale elves who live at the North Pole and possess magical powers to fly around the entire world in a single night, delivering presents.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:24:23am

re: #345 FormerDirtDart

Plausible
//

And into the stooge basket he goes……

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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:24:24am

re: #354 EPR-radar

If we survive the presidency* of Trump, I imagine Peter Thiel will eventually run for president. When that happens, it will be easy for him to buy all the RWNJ preachers with a bit of his pocket change.

The hypocrisy of those preachers at that time will be one for the record books.

Thiel can’t run thankfully. He’s German born.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:24:57am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:25:21am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The fact that they are fairy-tale elves who live at the North Pole and possess magical powers to fly around the entire world in a single night, delivering presents.

Didn’t seem to bother Megan Kelly as long as he was white.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:26:34am

re: #352 Teukka

Title is “Santa is a Commie”

The Pause of Mr Claus - Arlo Guthrie…first part is a monologue, song about Santa starts around 5.45

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:27:14am

lol, Spicer tries to punt on whether Trump will sign internet privacy bill, slips up and says “when we sign it…” whitehouse.gov

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:28:25am

While the Trump administration provides aid and comfort to agents of a military adversary, that adversary is helping to kill American soldiers.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:28:55am

re: #352 Teukka

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Title is “Santa is a Commie”

Swedish lyrics

Vi satt en jul på Starndvägen Uti vår tolvrums-lya
Lollo, jag och familjen samt noppe och hans nya
Vi hade delat ut paket för flera hundra tusen
Då det från öppna spisen lät Och snart bland juleljusen
Stod en farbror röd och fet Med skägg som värsta busen
Han sa han hette Tomtefar Och “Har ni varit snälla?”
Vad det med saken göra har?
Nä, inkomsten ska gälla
Sen fick vi klappar ur hans kappsäck En sån dålig smak
Ja, han var inte lite fräck Jag svimma med ett brak
När han sa han vart i Skarpnäck Och gort samma sak
Tomten är en kommunist
För honom är vi lika
Tomten är en kommunist
Fattiga som rika
Tomten är en kommunist
Ja, man vill bara skrika
Julen är en klassmarkör
Som Tomten jämt förstör
Så sanningen är först som sist
Att han är kommunist
Han går till alla kojor
Från spärrvakts till monarks
Kalla det för nojor
Men visst liknar han Karl Marx
Tomten är en kommunist
Ett eko utav Lenin
Tomten är en kommunist
Ja, det är helt min mening
Tomten är en kommunist
Som dock fått mediaträning
Så han god och glad kan stå och säga “Ho ho ho!”
Men jag sett genom denna list
För han är kommunist
Meningen med julen är
Att vi ska konsumera
Men om varenda proletär
Nu slutar att spendera
Och istället Tomten ber
Om klappar går det galet
Julhandeln går plötsligt ner
Så bakom omslagsskalet
Är julklapp Tomten ger
Ett hot mot kapitalet
I hans verkstad så sätts tonen
Av ett ultimatum
Man ska jämt ha produktionen
Färdigt ett visst datum
Men om efterfågan finns där
Sådant skits det i
Och han gör inte några vinster
På han industri
Det ord för detta kaos som finns är Planekonomi
Tomten är en kommunist
Röd som själva Satan
Tomten är en kommunist
Släng ut honom på gatan
Tomten är en kommunist
Så slå han i prostatan
Hans fördelingspolitik
Den stinker bolsjevik
Han blivit NK: s antikrist
För han är kommunist
Det är så man kiknar
När man julaftonskväll
Möts av en man som liknar
En fryntlig finsk Fidel
Tomten är en kommunist
Fast klapparna är fina
Tomten är en kommunist
Är som nog made in Kina
Tomten är kommunist
Låt USA få skina
Och skicka största drönaren
Att spränga Nordpolen
Så marknaden får ro till sist
För Tomten är en kommmmmmuuuuunnnnnnnist

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Jack Burton  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:30:04am

re: #354 EPR-radar

If we survive the presidency* of Trump, I imagine Peter Thiel will eventually run for president. When that happens, it will be easy for him to buy all the RWNJ preachers with a bit of his pocket change.

The hypocrisy of those preachers at that time will be one for the record books.

I may be wrong on this, but I don’t think Thiel can legally run for president because of dual-citizenship (or in his case multi-citizenship). I know he cannot get a security clearance because of that.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:31:36am
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Jack Burton  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:33:29am

re: #362 jaunte

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While the Trump administration provides aid and comfort to agents of a military adversary, that adversary is helping to kill American soldiers.

AFAIK one of the reasons so many on the right fawn all over Putin is because he’s “Defending Christendom from teh MOOZLIMS!” and “He don’t put up with any bullshit from THOZ DAMN SAND PEOPLE!”

This will be conveniently and gleefully ignored by them as ‘fake news’.

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EPR-radar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:33:35am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Thiel can’t run thankfully. He’s German born.

Good. A big part of Trump’s ‘success’ is that the US right piddles on themselves submissively when faced with great wealth (real or apparent).

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:34:44am

re: #358 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:34:45am

re: #366 Jack Burton

“He don’t put up with any bullshit from THOZ DAMN SAND PEOPLE!”

Always an interesting POV from anyone in the southwest.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:35:28am

re: #342 jaunte

Santa, The Great Redistributor.

I was at the grocery store yesterday. I came around a corner and just about bumped into a couple little girls, and one of them said ‘Santa!’

I need to lose some weight…

371
wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:37:46am

re: #370 stpaulbear

I was at the grocery store yesterday. I came around a corner and just about bumped into a couple little girls, and one of them said ‘Santa!’

I need to lose some weight…

Mr. w got that in a store (at least it was close to Christmas at the time) and he’s pretty skinny. It was the big beard…

372
Sir John Barron  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:39:24am

re: #365 jaunte

I hope her block button holds out today.

373
KGxvi  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:41:10am

re: #364 Jack Burton

I may be wrong on this, but I don’t think Thiel can legally run for president because of dual-citizenship (or in his case multi-citizenship). I know he cannot get a security clearance because of that.

Thiel’s issue is that is not a natural born citizen. He was born in (West) Germany to German parents. Cruz, though born in Canada, is a natural born US citizen (by virtue of his mother’s citizenship) and was eligible to run even though he held dual citizenship (Canada also has birthright citizenship). There’s technically nothing within the constitution preventing a dual citizen to run, so long as they are a natural born citizen of the US. Though historically, there’s never been (to my knowledge) a dual citizen as president, it’s not technically unconstitutional (probably just a political impossibility).

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:49:06am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh hell NO. (By that, I mean hell YES!!!!)

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Video

OH HELL YEAH! I saw the werewolf’s house, the leper, the smelting plant and a bunch of other stuff in there that was not in the mini series. This looks like it is gonna be awesome!

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:58:31am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

The three kids in the front row look to me like they could be in some Renaissance painting.

376
Dr. Matt  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:15:20pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

What pisses them off more? The gay or interracial part.

Yes

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2017 • 12:51:12pm

re: #324 jaunte

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Today’s Fox Insider email, complaining about the horrible unfairness of comparing one nepotistic family to another.

That’s just so wrong!! It’s Donald Jr and Eric who are Uday and Qusay. Ivanka is Evita.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2017 • 1:01:26pm

re: #377 sagehen

That’s just so wrong!! It’s Donald Jr and Eric who are Uday and Qusay. Ivanka is Evita.

Was going with Cesare and Giovanni Borgia, and Lucretia.


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