Federal Judge in Hawaii Extends Injunction Against Trump’s Muslim Travel Ban

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Tonight, the injunction blocking Donald Trump’s Muslim ban has been extended by federal Judge Derrick Watson in Hawaii.

The original injunction was only valid for 14 days; this will keep Trump’s bigoted order from being enforced until the issue is decided in court.

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - A federal judge in Hawaii on Wednesday extended the state’s block on President Trump’s revised travel ban, issuing a preliminary injunction that will keep the executive order shelved while its fate is decided in court.

U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson first granted the state’s request for a TRO on the ban two weeks ago, preventing the federal government from suspending new visas for people from six Muslim-majority countries and freezing the nation’s refugee program.

“It is always in the public’s interest to protect constitutional rights,” Hawaii Attorney General Doug Chin said in court on Wednesday.

During the hearing, attorneys for the state told Judge Watson that comments made by President Trump on the day of Watson’s previous ruling — where the president called the revised travel ban a “watered down” version of the order — served to strengthen their stance.

“If [the state’s] position was strong two weeks ago, it is stronger today,” said Chin, who added that President Trump’s “plainly worded statements betray the executive order’s stated purpose.

Chin later read aloud for the court a series of the president’s previous quotes, dating back to the campaign trail, that were critical of the Muslim faith or Muslim refugees.

“Even devoting a minute to stringing these together really drives the point home,” he said.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:12:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:13:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:13:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:16:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:18:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:22:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:32:08pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Via @JonLemire and @joshboak: Internally, the WH is unclear as to the scope of the new Kushner task force.

Oh, now THAT’S a fucking surprise.
/

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:35:59pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:36:14pm

Dude, this climate hearing that took place today in the House Science Committee is fucking horrifying.

“Make climate science great again.” Yes, this was uttered in the hearing.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:37:41pm

With the real world being buried under mountains of horse shit and besieged by hordes of Russian stooges and Republicans, I decided to escape with some re-runs of MST-3000 from Netflix. The first episode I’m watching trashes the execrable 1967 Catalina Caper.This was the last, and quite possibly the worst, of the beach party movies. I had forgotten just how funny MST 3000 really is so it’s a great break.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:38:06pm

so, this happened today:

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Joe Bacon  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:40:23pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel

With the real world being buried under mountains of horse shit and besieged by hordes of Russian stooges and Republicans, I decided to escape with some re-runs of MST-3000 from Netflix. The first episode I’m watching trashes the execrable 1967 Catalina Caper.This was the last, and quite possibly the worst, of the beach party movies. I had forgotten just how funny MST 3000 really is so it’s a great break.

Tom Servo singing Creepy Girl!

Tom Servo sings of his love for Creepy Girl

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Stanley Sea  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:40:36pm

Interesting

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Stanley Sea  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:40:51pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, this happened today:

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Horrific.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:41:39pm

meanwhile in Kentucky, it’s late night shenanigans:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:44:12pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Kentucky, it’s late night shenanigans:

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Interesting Times  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:44:20pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Interesting

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Oh god now I can’t get this image out of my head:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:46:34pm

re: #17 Interesting Times

Oh god now I can’t get this image out of my head:

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Hester, from Humans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:49:31pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:50:18pm

The talented comrades at DPRK News can bring some laughs even into our dire real world predicament:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:51:37pm

Too bad I’ll be asleep at 3AM when Trump has a meltdown on Twitter. Everyone take screenshots! ;)

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:52:44pm

This is the way today’s judges are ruling. Wait until Trump remakes the Supreme Court and appoints judges throughout the country. No good will come of anything he touches.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2017 • 8:54:01pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:02:58pm

I still think the current GOP mob makes Dan Quayle look like Winston Churchill. Quayle will be 72 in 2020. Too late for a rescue attempt?

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:07:13pm

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ipsos  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:09:18pm

If you’re not still laughing about Quayle going completely unrecognized by EVERYONE when he visited Trump Tower during the transition, well…

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:17:02pm

Too late for me to read the whole thing, so I’m just going to crib from Daily Kos (the quoted section is from Fortune):

ExxonMobil, the world’s largest publicly traded oil and gas company, is urging the White House to stick with the global climate agreement reached in Paris last year.

In a letter sent to the White House on March 22 — days before President Donald Trump signed an executive order rolling back Barack Obama’s climate legacy — Exxon told the administration that the Paris agreement is an “effective framework for addressing the risks of climate change” and that the U.S. is “well positioned to compete” under the deal, according to CNN Money.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:18:52pm

re: #26 ipsos

If you’re not still laughing about Quayle going completely unrecognized by EVERYONE when he visited Trump Tower during the transition, well…

Could be an advantage in campaigning. An entire generation of RWNJ dupes have grown up without knowing about his, er, performance as vice-president. Lumpy and Limbaugh never mention it so it never happened as far as the base is concerned. If they bring it up, he can squawk about fake news and accuse them of selling out to the CIA and the Clinton Crime Family.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:18:52pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:27:32pm
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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:28:12pm

One of the kittens is sleeping face down into the back of another. How they can sleep that way is amazing:

Gaia’s Kittens (fosters for Purrfect Pals)

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plansbandc  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:46:59pm

re: #17 Interesting Times

Is she Roz’s sister?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 29, 2017 • 9:56:54pm

NERF Dart Breaks the Sound Barrier

NERF Dart Breaks the Sound Barrier, yes really

LETHAL Nerf Dart VS Ballistic Gel (and assorted household items)

LETHAL Nerf Dart VS Ballistic Gel //Cause I Can

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:02:21pm
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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:08:46pm

re: #34 Kragar

Isn’t that from January of this year?

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:19:52pm

The headline sez:

Trump’s loose grip on history is biting him

But the real story is that Trump doesn’t have any grip on history at all, loose or otherwise.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:34:36pm

We were discussing this the other night:

A Single Robot May Cost Up to 6 Workers’ Jobs

[…]

The economists studied the impact of rising industrial robot usage and found that each new robot per thousand workers reduced the employment-to-population ratio by about 0.18 to 0.34 percentage points, and wages fell between 0.25% and 0.50%. Or, more plainly said, for every robot added to the U.S. economy since 1990, 3.0 to 5.6 workers lost their jobs.

[…]

What it means to live in the 21st century is to live in a time of an over-abundance of labor. We can and have and more so in the future will replace human labor with mechanism, hardware and software.

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freetoken  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:47:32pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 10:59:45pm

Sarah Silverman, getting ahead of that whole ‘any third party can buy your search history’ thingy.

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austin_blue  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:01:22pm

So, we are off for the UK tomorrow until April 18th.

Edinburgh International Harp Festival for a week and then ten days in Bedfordshire, with a Saturday before Easter side trip to Canterbury.

Hey Ice and Jimmah? You out there? Love to share a pint over lunch at The Cloisters.

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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:02:52pm
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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:04:06pm
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Kragar  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:07:23pm
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austin_blue  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:11:42pm

Oops, late, night all! Washing and packing tomorrow before catching the Speedbird to Heathrow.

You know know your city has grown up when you’ve got a BA non-stop to London.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:25:02pm

re: #44 austin_blue

Oops, late, night all! Washing and packing tomorrow before catching the Speedbird to Heathrow.

You know know your city has grown up when you’ve got a BA non-stop to London.

Severe deadly possibly tornadic weather (documented) one night, packing for London the next.

I’ll know I’ve made it when I’m on a plane ride to the big fucking mountains in central Asia to go skiing!

Safe travels, my favorite anonymous Austin Texas motherfucker!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:29:35pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

First off, if you really want to cut down on information sharing, junk mail and annoying phone calls and pre-screened credit card offers, there are several things you can do….

Stopping Unsolicited Mail, Phone Calls, and Email (FTC)

Opting out from Pre-screened Credit Line offerings

Other steps to take:

Do NOT sign up for loyalty/reward programs with retailers
Review your Privacy Notifications you will periodically receive from every firm you have a relationship with
Know your privacy rights - Privacy Rights Clearinghouse

As far as Trump’s nonsense goes in allowing ISP’s to sell your browsing data: subscribe to a VPN service, use Tor/Qubes, and use DuckDuckGo for searching.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:33:31pm

Right wing press is definately upset. Headline from newsmax:

Federal Judge Extends Order Halting Travel Ban Indefinately

Remember: judge is from Hawaii, Obama is from Hawaii

Deep State Cabal in Action!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:35:06pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 29, 2017 • 11:49:56pm

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Right wing press is definately upset. Headline from newsmax:

Federal Judge Extends Order Halting Travel Ban Indefinately

Remember: judge is from Hawaii, Obama is from Hawaii

Deep State Cabal in Action!!!!!

The judge is a Kenyan? Who knew?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 30, 2017 • 12:16:57am
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Kragar  Mar 30, 2017 • 12:24:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 12:49:46am

Seriously what’s the appropriate reason for a married person to go out for a meal alone with a member of the other sex (outside of family)?

It really is Pence’s own business how he manages his relationship with his wife, but I am simply struck by the contrast between a VP who will not go out in public with another woman and a President who used to wander around the dressing rooms at the Miss Universe pageant.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:22:50am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:25:48am

re: #53 teleskiguy

Those are just holes in the dome of heaven letting light from the eternal fires shine through. Don’t be fooled by Big Science!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:26:14am

re: #53 teleskiguy

Perhaps the coolest thing about living in a rural mountain town in Colorado is the night sky. So full of stars and light! It’s endless!

I grew up a city kid around Chicago and remember our first family vacation to Mesa Verde, CO, and being blown away by the the abundance of stars in the night sky.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:27:42am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up a city kid around Chicago and remember our first family vacation to Mesa Verde, CO, and being blown away by the the abundance of stars in the night sky.

My joking aside, I had the same experience moving from the NYC area to Wyoming. It was the first time I saw the Milky Way with my own eyes.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:32:12am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

My joking aside, I had the same experience moving from the NYC area to Wyoming. It was the first time I saw the Milky Way with my own eyes.

I’ve seen the Milky Way under a full moon, on a ski tour above Lake City, CO years ago. I’ll never forget that night sky.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:38:26am

re: #57 teleskiguy

I’ve seen the Milky Way under a full moon, on a ski tour above Lake City, CO years ago. I’ll never forget that night sky.

We were out for a walk while camping in the Chiracauha mountains (SE Arizona) and able to navigate our way down a road on a totally moonless night because the white dividing line was illuminated by starlight.

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Cheechako  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:54:45am

I was camped out on a wildfire in the middle of the Bitterroot Wilderness in Montana and woke up at 3 AM because the starlight was so bright. Just the light from the stars was enough to read a newspaper.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 1:57:43am

re: #59 Cheechako

I was camped out on a wildfire in the middle of the Bitterroot Wilderness in Montana and woke up at 3 AM because the starlight was so bright. Just the light from the stars was enough to read a newspaper.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 2:24:14am

From my FB feed: Separated at birth: Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies and Jeff Sessions?

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 30, 2017 • 2:44:52am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 2:45:17am

re: #41 Kragar

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Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son (Lyric Video)

By the time Trumps leaves office, I’m going to wear that song out.

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Teukka  Mar 30, 2017 • 3:09:13am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 30, 2017 • 3:45:51am

re: #64 Teukka

Yeah, posted already, but it bears repeating. Even Dubya can see what a disaster Trump is.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 30, 2017 • 4:28:50am

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel

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No he is not.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 4:43:04am

Have you heard of Susan B. Anthony? I’m shocked that you’ve heard of her

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 4:46:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:06:55am

re: #64 Teukka

Did this get posted, fellow Lizardim?
‘That was some weird sh*t’: Sources reveal what George W. Bush really thought of Trump’s inaugural address

When you’ve lost Dubya…

Dubya is happy that there is a President who makes his record look better by comparison…

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weave  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:09:42am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

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The church I work at has that rule. No married man can been around a woman alone that is not his wife. I find it interesting that they also think atheists can’t have morals without God but it’s impossible for Christians to do what’s right (like not cheating on your wife) without having all of these rules to keep you from being tempted in the first place.

Is that not the same idea as having to have women keep all covered up because YOU can’t control your lustful thoughts — making it THEIR problem?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:13:34am

Ah, intra-GOP ratfucking is fun to watch sometimes:

Republican gubernatorial candidate Corey Stewart attacked his GOP primary rival Ed Gillespie in a new, Confederate-themed ad that included an altered newspaper headline the Gillespie campaign has denounced as blatantly false.

The one-minute ad — which the Stewart campaign said will cost in the “mid five digits” and run in an online video and on radio statewide — includes the same altered headline, meant to appear as if it was published by The Washington Post, that has already been pulled from Facebook after complaints by the Gillespie campaign.

“Gillespie: I’m OK with Charlottesville Taking Down the General Lee Monument” the headline reads in the video, a repeat of a fake headline circulated on Facebook by a conservative group called the Conservative Response Team, as first reported by The Associated Press.

richmond.com

Also, a Yankee invader like Corey Stewart with a wife who is an immigrant wants to protect Confederate statutes and fight illegal immigration.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:14:05am

re: #51 Kragar

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Why should women be able to drive anyhow? //

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:17:36am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

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Really, are these guys so out of touch that they can’t fathom the idea of going out to eat with a friend of the opposite sex or if you’re in business or the law a client or possible client?. Hell even an ex spouse or SO too. I mean it’s the Pence’s choice ultimately to have this weird arrangement but it’s definitely very weird.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:21:06am

re: #71 Timothy Watson

Ah, intra-GOP ratfucking is fun to watch sometimes:

richmond.com

Also, a Yankee invader like Corey Stewart with a wife who is an immigrant wants to protect Confederate statutes and fight illegal immigration.

Some of our worst panderers to the CSA fanboys and girls have been Yankee transplants like Stewart. Interestingly enough both our two Democratic candidates are VA natives which is a contrast between our past and present Democratic governors like Warner, Kaine, and McAuliffe. Creigh Deeds was from Virginia too. Nothing wrong with being a transplant. All four of my grandparents were and so are all my Dad’s older siblings but I cannot stand when someone like Stewart or George Allen before him panders to the CSA love.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:21:48am

re: #70 weave

The church I work at has that rule. No married man can been around a woman alone that is not his wife. I find it interesting that they also think atheists can’t have morals without God but it’s impossible for Christians to do what’s right (like not cheating on your wife) without having all of these rules to keep you from being tempted in the first place.

Is that not the same idea as having to have women keep all covered up because YOU can’t control your lustful thoughts — making it THEIR problem?

Ultra-Orthodox Jews have these rules too. It gets kind of crazy in Israel when they collide with the rest of the secular population. Also: it seems like all religious extremists have become MORE EXTREME in recent years. When I lived in Israel back in the ‘70’s they weren’t this insane.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:23:44am

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

Ultra-Orthodox Jews have these rules too. It gets kind of crazy in Israel when they collide with the rest of the secular population. Also: it seems like all religious extremists have become MORE EXTREME in recent years. When I lived in Israel back in the ‘70’s they weren’t this insane.

That is the thing. Religious extremists do seem to have gotten more extreme. I mean honestly what Mike and Mrs. Pence does in between them but it’s definitely very weird IMO and honestly knowing what I know about Evangelicals and how they value women having a say, I doubt she had a real choice in the matter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:29:32am

OH LOOK A REAL LIFE MEME

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:31:27am

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

Ultra-Orthodox Jews have these rules too. It gets kind of crazy in Israel when they collide with the rest of the secular population. Also: it seems like all religious extremists have become MORE EXTREME in recent years. When I lived in Israel back in the ‘70’s they weren’t this insane.

I remember seeing video a couple years back of Ultra-Orthodox Israelis harassing women in the street over their clothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:34:22am

re: #70 weave

The church I work at has that rule. No married man can been around a woman alone that is not his wife. I find it interesting that they also think atheists can’t have morals without God but it’s impossible for Christians to do what’s right (like not cheating on your wife) without having all of these rules to keep you from being tempted in the first place.

Is that not the same idea as having to have women keep all covered up because YOU can’t control your lustful thoughts — making it THEIR problem?

Remember from the Bible…it was WOMAN’S temptation that led to our fall from grace, not man’s weakness…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:35:45am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Really, are these guys so out of touch that they can’t fathom the idea of going out to eat with a friend of the opposite sex or if you’re in business or the law a client or possible client?. Hell even an ex spouse or SO too. I mean it’s the Pence’s choice ultimately to have this weird arrangement but it’s definitely very weird.

Again, it is up to Pence and his wife, and all in all, I find it less creepy than a fellow who wanders around alone backstage at a Miss Universe pageant.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:36:34am
Nearly seven years later, in 2006, a state police detective, Todd Harwood, got the cold case. This time, a judge granted a search warrant, and Harwood took a section of King’s kitchen floor to compare the bullets embedded in it with those found in Breeden’s skull.

Harwood later told a grand jury the results of the tests were inconclusive, although both sets of bullets were .22 caliber. He testified the floor had been cleaned with a solvent that scraped away a layer of linoleum. According to King, Harwood testified that phone records showed King stopped calling Breeden before his body had been found, as though she already knew he was dead. His theory was that King shot Breeden in her home, dragged his body to her car, drove to the Gratz Bridge, threw his body over the railing, and then cleaned the blood from the crime scene.

None of it was true. And now a U.S. Court of Appeals has determined that King can sue Harwood for “malicious prosecution” and the tragic consequences that followed.

According to court documents, a state police firearms examiner actually told Harwood the bullets didn’t match. A lab report said no cleaning solvents were found on the floor sample. Phone records showed King rarely called Breeden anyway; he usually called her.

washingtonpost.com

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jeffreyw  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:42:08am

Imgur
Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:45:06am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, it is up to Pence and his wife, and all in all, I find it less creepy than a fellow who wanders around alone backstage at a Miss Universe pageant.

A Miss Teen pageant too. Oh yeah it’s definitely up to them. I was commenting more on Erickson and Walsh’s comments more so than anything Pence said. I mean it’s very old fashioned obviously but if both him and his wife are okay with it, that’s their decision, just as it’s my judgment that it’s a bit weird.

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Varek Raith  Mar 30, 2017 • 5:46:24am

Good morning.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:01:32am

Space walk at the ISS currently underway

nasa.gov

We also have a Space X launch this afternoon/evening.

spacex.com

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:02:20am

re: #51 Kragar

These people don’t realize they’re misogynists (or don’t care). They are. Perpetuating status advantages for males who already dominate the workplace and society at large, by claiming women can’t interact with men in ordinary and common situations.

You have to wonder if they’re also the same people who’d claim that a woman who was raped had it coming. It’s the same logic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:03:47am

re: #86 lawhawk

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These people don’t realize they’re misogynists (or don’t care). They are. Perpetuating status advantages for males who already dominate the workplace and society at large, by claiming women can’t interact with men in ordinary and common situations.

You have to wonder if they’re also the same people who’d claim that a woman who was raped had it coming. It’s the same logic.

Again, ask any Biblical literalist who is responsible for mankind’s fall from grace…

…and why does Revelations talk of the Whore of Babylon and not the Gigolo of Babylon?

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I cannot.  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:03:51am

re: #86 lawhawk

Fuck, its the same logic that ISIS uses for how they treat women.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:05:59am
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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:10:52am

Nothing like an out-of-touch billionaire elite talking about school choice as though people choose between which car hailing service they use:

Most Americans don’t have a choice because they can’t afford one. Public schools are where more than 90% of students get their basic education through HS. Private schools, or charter schools aren’t going to be a solution for everyone, or even most people. It’s a fringe answer, and one that is rife with its own problems (as we’ve seen in NYC where some charter schools can’t make the grade either).

But this is Devos, so it’s entirely predictable.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:11:38am

re: #86 lawhawk

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These people don’t realize they’re misogynists (or don’t care). They are. Perpetuating status advantages for males who already dominate the workplace and society at large, by claiming women can’t interact with men in ordinary and common situations.

You have to wonder if they’re also the same people who’d claim that a woman who was raped had it coming. It’s the same logic.

Matt Walsh has some really fucked up ideas about minimum wage (there shouldn’t be any) and equal pay (OF COURSE WIMMENZ SHOULD BE PAYED LESS COZ UV THERE BABBY HAVINGS!!!!!!)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:11:40am

re: #86 lawhawk

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These people don’t realize they’re misogynists (or don’t care). They are. Perpetuating status advantages for males who already dominate the workplace and society at large, by claiming women can’t interact with men in ordinary and common situations.

You have to wonder if they’re also the same people who’d claim that a woman who was raped had it coming. It’s the same logic.

Exactly. I mean if both Pences are really okay with this, fine but if this is going to come out to the public, they shouldn’t be shocked if people think it’s strange.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:12:23am

re: #88 I cannot.

Fuck, its the same logic that ISIS uses for how they treat women.

Yeah I think this kind of stuff really undermines our credibility when talking about ISIS and Islamic fundamentalism as a whole.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:13:08am

Found this on YouTube — perfect for you other oldtimer computer guys and gals. An 18-year-old bought an IBM z890 mainframe for a couple hundred bucks and tells an appreciative audience what happened next. (45 minutes long, but worth watching.)

Here’s What Happens When an 18 Year Old Buys a Mainframe

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:13:47am

Trump’s up and tweeting. This isn’t going to end well for Donny:

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:14:30am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:14:40am

re: #90 lawhawk

Nothing like an out-of-touch billionaire elite talking about school choice as though people choose between which car hailing service they use:

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Most Americans don’t have a choice because they can’t afford one. Public schools are where more than 90% of students get their basic education through HS. Private schools, or charter schools aren’t going to be a solution for everyone, or even most people. It’s a fringe answer, and one that is rife with its own problems (as we’ve seen in NYC where some charter schools can’t make the grade either).

But this is Devos, so it’s entirely predictable.

She’s so woefully out of touch. Anyhow, a school is a microcosm of the community as a whole. Your classmates are your neighbors often. Public schools especially foster a sense of community. And quite honestly a lot of these private schools and charter schools are lacking in the programs that help students with learning disabilities. And DeVos in her usual out of touch self doesn’t think about them because she doesn’t seem to care.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:15:07am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

Matt Walsh has some really fucked up ideas about minimum wage (there shouldn’t be any) and equal pay (OF COURSE WIMMENZ SHOULD BE PAYED LESS COZ UV THERE BABBY HAVINGS!!!!!!)

He must be real fun at parties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:16:38am

re: #90 lawhawk

DeVos: Picking a school should be like choosing among Uber, Lyft or a taxi

This is enough to make a person scream. If I had kids in school in the USofA, I would…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:16:49am

re: #96 Franklin

[Embedded content]

I imagine my precinct is Republican. Our county as a whole went for Obama and Clinton but we’re in an area represented by Republicans in the state senate and house of delegates and it’s not as diverse as the county as a whole out here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:16:51am

re: #86 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

These people don’t realize they’re misogynists (or don’t care). They are. Perpetuating status advantages for males who already dominate the workplace and society at large, by claiming women can’t interact with men in ordinary and common situations.

You have to wonder if they’re also the same people who’d claim that a woman who was raped had it coming. It’s the same logic.

Also note the homophobic assumption that all marriages are between members of the opposite sex.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:18:09am

re: #96 Franklin

[Embedded content]

HURR HURR LOOK AT ALL THAT RED!1!!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:18:44am

I mean it really is their choice but in the end, I don’t see how you can talk about how ISIS and Islamic groups like that treat women poorly when you say that you can’t even trust your spouse to go out to eat dine with a non-family member of the opposite sex.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:20:03am

re: #102 Timothy Watson

HURR HURR LOOK AT ALL THAT RED!1!!

They really think the red landmass means everything. I’d point out that Democratic voters are much more representational of the country as a whole. Republican voter demographics resemble what the country was 80 years ago which is in perfect symmetry with Republican voters whose values are from 80 years ago.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:21:59am

So, Trump is set to sign into law that GOP backed bill that degrades privacy protections online so ISPs can sell your browsing data to 3d parties without you knowing.

These fuckers don’t care until we figure out what they’re browsing, and browsing on our taxpayer dime. Maybe then, they’ll change their tune.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:22:01am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

They really think the red landmass means everything. I’d point out that Democratic voters are much more representational of the country as a whole. Republican voter demographics resemble what the country was 80 years ago which is in perfect symmetry with Republican voters whose values are from 80 years ago.

Values from 80 years ago?

Aren’t we being generous.

///

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:24:37am

re: #106 Timothy Watson

Values from 80 years ago?

Aren’t we being generous.

///

Touche but it fit in well with describing their demographics.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:24:46am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

They really think the red landmass means everything. I’d point out that Democratic voters are much more representational of the country as a whole. Republican voter demographics resemble what the country was 80 years ago which is in perfect symmetry with Republican voters whose values are from 80 years ago.

The thing is, though: land doesn’t vote, people do.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:26:57am

re: #108 Jay C

The thing is, though: land doesn’t vote, people do.

Exactly. I remember Fiorina when she was a McCain surrogate talking up that Sarah Palin was governor of our “largest state.” And no one seemed to point out to her yes Alaska is our largest state in area but population wise and thus economy wise it’s towards the bottom. Of course when you point this out, you get called a coastal elite or some shit.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:34:57am

Not that I’ve had a meal alone with my boss (and not that it would be particularly weird to do so) but having had woman managers for the past ~4 years would make yearly reviews and regular 1:1 meetings kinda hard to schedule.

“Can I invite my wife?” said no one ever

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:38:26am

re: #110 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:38:59am

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

Ultra-Orthodox Jews have these rules too. It gets kind of crazy in Israel when they collide with the rest of the secular population. Also: it seems like all religious extremists have become MORE EXTREME in recent years. When I lived in Israel back in the ‘70’s they weren’t this insane.

Maybe all these deeply fundamental religious groups are seeing their ways going away more and more as the world becomes more open. So, they cling harder and dig deeper.

If you think about it, politics is much the same. Look at both the far right and far left.

I guess that goes with why you can’t discuss religion and politics.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:40:38am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember from the Bible…it was WOMAN’S temptation that led to our fall from grace, not man’s weakness…

BINGO!

Hey, it’s right thar in the bible…womens is evil!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:41:25am

This is for teleskiguy

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:42:22am

How long until laws allow employers to buy employees’ (or prospective employees’) private ISP info?

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:42:43am

re: #113 ObserverArt

BINGO!

Hey, it’s right thar in the bible…womens is evil!

Men, on the other hand, are whiny and blame women for their failures. Adam was just the first.

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Teukka  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:43:02am

So… You know that massive money laundering scheme exposed this side of the pond? It gets curioser and curioser….
translate.google.com

Edit: Neofascist think tank implicated.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:46:36am

re: #95 lawhawk

Trump’s up and tweeting. This isn’t going to end well for Donny:

[Embedded content]

I encourage this behavior. Splitting groups of Republicans so that maybe they can no longer work together may put a stop to Bannon’s tearing everything up, and Pauly Rand Ryan from fucking everything up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:47:10am

re: #110 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Not that I’ve had a meal alone with my boss (and not that it would be particularly weird to do so) but having had woman managers for the past ~4 years would make yearly reviews and regular 1:1 meetings kinda hard to schedule.

“Can I invite my wife?” said no one ever

Exactly. I think these guys just really have these very old old values. As Freetoken said last night, we have a lot of people who had 18th century values well into the 21st century.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:47:50am

re: #112 ObserverArt

Maybe all these deeply fundamental religious groups are seeing their ways going away more and more as the world becomes more open. So, they cling harder and dig deeper.

If you think about it, politics is much the same. Look at both the far right and far left.

I guess that goes with why you can’t discuss religion and politics.

I do think that’s a common thread among religious fundamentalists of all stripes. Modernism threatens them.

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:49:42am

re: #111 lawhawk

JFC

Me thinks Matt and EWE don’t have any female friends. Explains a lot about their world views.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:52:46am

Someone pass the popcorn:

Pass the popcorn
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:54:13am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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I cannot.  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:56:04am

re: #121 Franklin

Me thinks Matt and EWE don’t have any female friends

FTFY

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:57:01am

The GOP hasn’t given up the ghost of repealing Obamacare. They’re still plotting:

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2017 • 6:59:17am

Wow! Just noticed that I’ve finally broken the 5,000 Karma barrier! After only 61 months!
Thanks, all!

Serves me right, though, for not spending even MORE time at LGF than I do….

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:00:23am

re: #111 lawhawk

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:00:37am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

[Embedded content]

The guy who says he won’t leak Putin’s secrets because “the free and open media environment” in Russia makes it unnecessary. The Ecuadorans should defenestrate him, and Scotland Yard should be waiting with a net.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:02:35am

re: #121 Franklin

JFC

[Embedded content]

Me thinks Matt and EWE don’t have any female friends. Explains a lot about their world views.

I’ve had meals with not one, not two, but three single female co-workers at the same time, which would have been totally scandalous if we hadn’t talked shop, family stuff, and other nerdy topics the entire time.

Oh, and there were copious amounts of beer involved, and not once did I contemplate destroying my marriage. I enjoyed the beer, the food, and the company. That’s it.

I think a lot of the outrage (and faux-outrage) about people pushing back on Pence’s odd worldview is really coming from people who have never had female colleagues at or above their own level at a company or other institution. In fact, I think it’s a larger cultural phenomenon: younger generations are realizing that this worldview is bullshit, and some of the old, white men in power don’t like it.

I’ve been working with women engineers and managers for my entire professional career and it’s been better for it, and if I’m not allowed to socialize with my co-workers just because of their genitalia, everyone loses.

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I cannot.  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:02:38am

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Why would you want them to have a net?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:03:36am

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

The guy who says he won’t leak Putin’s secrets because “the free and open media environment” in Russia makes it unnecessary. The Ecuadorans should defenestrate him, and Scotland Yard should be waiting with a net.

Assange has not been incarcerated by anyone. He can walk out of the Ecuadorian Embassy at any time.

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b.d.  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:04:00am

This is not only not dancing with the one who brought you, this is using their car’s back seat for sex with their best friend.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:04:41am

re: #132 b.d.

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This is not only not dancing with the one who brought you, this is using their car’s back seat for sex with their best friend.

So…classic Trump?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:04:55am

re: #132 b.d.

[Embedded content]

This is not only not dancing with the one who brought you, this is using their car’s back seat for sex with their best friend.

while they are going out of their way to drive you home…

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makeitstop  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:05:29am

re: #132 b.d.

[Embedded content]

This is not only not dancing with the one who brought you, this is using their car’s back seat for sex with their best friend.

Well, we are talking about Mr. ‘I moved on her like a bitch’ here.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:17:41am

re: #132 b.d.

[Embedded content]

This is not only not dancing with the one who brought you, this is using their car’s back seat for sex with their best friend.

I guess this is our Idiot-in-Chief (though Dog knows why, and, as usual, badly - if not pathetically) attempting to squeeze some sort of political leverage out of his “not really a Republican” shtick: though as anything other than a waste of Twitter pixels, it’s hard to see what he’s looking to accomplish. Considering that most of Trump’s political aims (assuming he even thinks that clearly) boil down to:
1) Boosting his own ego
2) Whipping up prejudices
3) and 4) the conjoined principles of “Kill the Government” and “Loot the Economy”
it’s not clear why he would want to dump on any GOP faction. Then again, it’s Donald Trump: “it’s not clear” is pretty much the watchword for his Administration anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:19:14am

I think he’s making a dumb mistake by going after the Freedom Caucus members. Their districts strongly supported him but they’ve also strongly supported sending the Freedom Caucus members back to Congress.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:20:15am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I think he’s making a dumb mistake by going after the Freedom Caucus members. Their districts strongly supported him but they’ve also strongly supported sending the Freedom Caucus members back to Congress.

and these are people who put concepts like ideological purity and loyalty above practical politicking.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:20:21am

re: #115 Barefoot Grin

How long until laws allow employers to buy employees’ (or prospective employees’) private ISP info?

How else will they know if you support the correct party and will thus fit in with their org?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:20:47am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and these are people who put concepts like ideological purity and loyalty above practical politicking.

Exactly. But hey who am I to complain if Trump hurts himself with his loyalist following.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:21:17am

re: #136 Jay C

I guess this is our Idiot-in-Chief (though Dog knows why, and, as usual, badly - if not pathetically) attempting to squeeze some sort of political leverage out of his “not really a Republican” shtick: though as anything other than a waste of Twitter pixels, it’s hard to see what he’s looking to accomplish. Considering that most of Trump’s political aims (assuming he even thinks that clearly) boil down to:
1) Boosting his own ego
2) Whipping up prejudices
3) and 4) the conjoined principles of “Kill the Government” and “Loot the Economy”
it’s not clear why he would want to dump on any GOP faction. Then again, it’s Donald Trump: “it’s not clear” is pretty much the watchword for his Administration anyway.

It’s just pure id, reacting to perceived slights and trying to put his “opponents” off balance because that’s all he knows how to do, but Trump’s biggest fans will spin it as him playing some multidimensional game of chess, 10 steps ahead of the opposition.

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I cannot.  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:22:42am

re: #136 Jay C

It’s a case of number 1)…NOT THE #1 MENTIONED IN THE DOSSIER!

The HFC crushed his chance at one of his two real issues, Da Wall, and Repealing The Black Guy. Since his issue was at stake, his ego was as well.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:23:40am

WTF is going on in the Senate Hearing.

Just woke-up. Senate Intel Hearing on Russian Election Meddling. Fox is showing it like they are CSPAN

144
I cannot.  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:24:57am

re: #143 Birth Control Works

If Fox is showing it straight, then the Fix is in, or shit just got real.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:25:41am

In NOLA. I saw a panhandler last night with a cardboard sign that said “F—- TRUMP”.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:26:24am

re: #144 I cannot.

If Fox is showing it straight, then the Fix is in, or shit just got real.

Shit woke me up. Literally.

I think the hearing just started.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:27:53am
Senate Intelligence Leaders Warn Everyone is a Target of Russian Interference
The Senate Intelligence Committee hears testimony from several witness, including former NSA Director General Keith Alexander (Ret.), on Russian interference in the 2016 election and its capabilities to impact elections in other Western democracies.

CSPAN 3

Satellite is down here because of storms -having to switch to Internet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:28:34am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Exactly. But hey who am I to complain if Trump hurts himself with his loyalist following.

on the other hand, Trump has demonstrated a preternatural ability to violate every rule and convention of campaigning, governing, dealing with the media and politicking and still come out ahead…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:33:50am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

on the other hand, Trump has demonstrated a preternatural ability to violate every rule and convention of campaigning, governing, dealing with the media and politicking and still come out ahead…

True. Just going to get out the proverbial popcorn though and watch him go after the Freedumb Caucus jackasses.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:34:12am

re: #143 Birth Control Works

WTF is going on in the Senate Hearing.

Just woke-up. Senate Intel Hearing on Russian Election Meddling. Fox is showing it like they are CSPAN

Rats leave the sinking ship.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:35:13am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel

Rats leave the sinking ship.

Won’t be long until Donald Trump- D.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:37:30am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel

Rats leave the sinking ship.

and totally distracting from the money angle.

Russia has effective intelligence tools to use in a cold war to influence outcomes in other countries to their advantage —just like we do.

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Varek Raith  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:38:18am

re: #121 Franklin

JFC

[Embedded content]

Me thinks Matt and EWE don’t have any female friends. Explains a lot about their world views.

Cavemen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:41:50am

Hearing just started & he Tweets this==>

This is what set him off==>

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:41:51am

Someone on FB thought it necessary to remind me that there are also conspira-loons and Kremlin stooges on the left. Quite true but they are not an existential threat just now.

I met one a while back who swore up and down that Lyndon Johnson was a Republican, since a fellow Democrat would not have had JFK assassinated.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:43:04am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

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Timothy Watson  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:46:55am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Hearing just started & he Tweets this==>

[Embedded content]

Didn’t he link to that same New York Post story yesterday?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:49:36am

re: #156 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I just love how the “Everyone’s so sensitive” brigade is one of this baby’s biggest base. And no Donald, you don’t get to change the libel laws because your fee fees got hurt by an op-ed, you tyrannical wet dreamer.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:49:59am

re: #157 Timothy Watson

Didn’t he link to that same New York Post story yesterday?

Yes.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:52:04am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Hearing just started & he Tweets this==>

[Embedded content]

Jeez, what a thin-skinned moron. Starts gibbering about “libel laws” (good friggin’ luck with that, Donnie!) because the NYT prints a critical Op-Ed?

And that “failing NYT” wheeze? Pretty much a guarantee that when Donald Trump finally kicks the bucket, his obit is going to be printed in the New York Times - and NOT in their “final, going-out-of-business” edition, either.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 30, 2017 • 7:55:02am

re: #160 Jay C

Jeez, what a thin-skinned moron. Starts gibbering about “libel laws” (good friggin’ luck with that, Donnie!) because the NYT prints a critical Op-Ed?

And that “failing NYT” wheeze? Pretty much a guarantee that when Donald Trump finally kicks the bucket, his obit is going to be printed in the New York Times - and NOT in their “final, going-out-of-business” edition, either.

The NYT has literally been a thing longer than the Trump family has been in this country.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2017 • 8:11:52am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I think he’s making a dumb mistake by going after the Freedom Caucus members. Their districts strongly supported him but they’ve also strongly supported sending the Freedom Caucus members back to Congress.

Please proceed.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2017 • 8:26:39am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Hearing just started & he Tweets this==>

[Embedded content]

Speaking of ignorance, or is it just being obtuse, did anyone see or hear the exchange between the DEA head and Trump at the meeting Trump had regarding the drug problems in this country?

The DEA guy went on to a long explanation of how all the Oxycontin and Hydrocodone pain killers giving out by MDs and the drug industry got people hooked on opioids, then when people are no longer given ‘scripts they switch to the much cheaper and now prevalent heroin.

Trump then asked something like: do you see numbers that show this started to increase due to the lax border protection of the last 6 or so years (that Obama guy again!)?

He totally missed the damn point the DEA guy was trying to make. It is the prescription drugs given out like candy for so many years that caused the problem…not the damn border walls.

The freaking border wall is not going to stop heroin from getting into this country.

Maybe, just maybe if we didn’t create so many drug users “legally” we might not have the illegal problems.

And guess who made up this panel from the Trump side of the table?

reason.com - Donald Trump’s Opioid Commission Is Stacked With Prosecutors and 12-Steppers

Will any drug policy experts sit on Trump’s drug policy commission?

The Washington Post reports that President Donald Trump will announce today the creation of a federal opioid commission. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will be the chair, and the rollout will feature a who’s who of federal bureaucrats, from Attorney General Jeff Sessions, to acting Drug Czar Richard Baum, to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.

- - CUT - - more at link

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meteor  Mar 30, 2017 • 8:57:26am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

I read his timeline. What a maroon.


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