And Now, “Downward Dog” - the Web Series

Portrait of an introspective canine
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WATCH THE NEW SHOW BASED ON THE WEB SERIES STARTING WEDNESDAY MAY 17 9:30|8:30c ON ABC : abc.go.com

00:00 - Episode 1: Friendship
01:17 - Episode 2: Walking
02:32 - Episode 3: Aging
03:51 - Episode 4: Animal Instincts
05:22 - Episode 5: Special Time
07:06 - Episode 6: Driving
08:36 - Episode 7: One Good Thing

Created by Michael Killen and Samm Hodges, and produced by the team at Animal (animalstudio.com), “Downward Dog” is the original web series that provided the inspiration for the upcoming ABC comedy of the same name. ABC’s “Downward Dog” follows the day-to-day life of Nan (played by Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated Allison Tolman, “Fargo”), as told by her increasingly lonely and philosophical dog, Martin. The broadcast series is created and written by Samm Hodges and Michael Killen, who will executive produce with Mosaic Media Group’s Jimmy Miller and Sam Hansen, Animal’s Kathy Dziubek, and showrunners Kat Likkel and John Hoberg. It stars Tolman, Lucas Neff as Jason, Kirby Howell-Baptiste as Jenn, and Barry Rothbart as Kevin. The series, from Legendary Television and ABC Studios, premieres on ABC in May.

Production Company: Animal (animalstudio.com)
Creators: Michael Killen & Samm Hodges
Director: Michael Killen
Writer: Samm Hodges
Director of Photography: Stephen Hunter
Executive Producer: Michael Killen, Kathy Dziubek, Jim Kreitzburg, Danny Yourd
Producer: Amy Kersnick, Nancy Richert
Associate Producer: Ally Oleynik

Editor: Elisabeth Voltz
Post Producer: Nathan Voltz
VFX: Animal
Color & Finishing: Allan Stallard
Title & Credit Design: Idil Gozde, Joe Oak
Composer: Danny Bracken
Sound Design: Defacto Sound (defactosound.com)
Additional Music: Dr. Dog “The Breeze”

STARRING
Sadie Torles, Martin
Rachel Vallozzi, Nan
Samm Hodges, Martin’s Voice
Jack Horovitz, Tony
Mousse, Herself
Myra Oleynik, Mousse Owner
Dr. Joanna Rubin, Veterinarian
Matt Dobbins, Veterinarian Assistant
Hazel, Pepper
Marilyn Hesemann, Pepper Owner

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278 comments
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BeachDem  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:22:24pm

Hmmm—the plot thickens:

Rachel Maddow has questioned how it is possible that Vice President Mike Pence couldn’t have known that Gen. Mike Flynn was lying about his Russia conversation…

“That cannot be true,” Maddow remarked.

“As leader of the transition, he was notified in writing by members of Congress about Flynn’s apparent financial ties to the government of Turkey,” Maddow outlined, referring back to a letter sent by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD). “The transition was also apparently notified twice by Flynn’s own lawyers about his financial relationship with the government of Turkey, but nevertheless, Vice President Mike Pence says he has no idea about any of that.”

rawstory.com

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:23:39pm

re: #1 BeachDem

Absentee landlord.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:25:42pm

@yashar is such a fun follow

Start here

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KGxvi  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:29:55pm

Apparently, Orrin Hatch was going to retire until it came out that Evan McMullen may run for the Senate seat next year. Now Hatch is running again, at the behest of Trump… I’m sure that’ll go over well with voters in Utah who weren’t exactly enamored with Trump to begin with

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:31:57pm

This made me cry.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:42:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:50:52pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

@yashar is such a fun follow

Start here

Okay. I’ve seen enough. RELEASE THE BOLSHEVIKS!!

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majii  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:54:07pm

re: #4 KGxvi

“I’m sure that’ll go over well with voters in Utah who weren’t exactly enamored with Trump to begin with”

Hatch is a political pretzel. He changes his views and says new things depending upon which way the right-wing wind is blowing. I remember the last time he ran for reelection and the Tea Party was very vocal, he was viewed by some GOPers as not being anti-Obama enough, so he suddenly decided he was going to lead the charge against #44. Before then, I seldom read anything he said at all about anything. To keep his seat, he became #44’s harshest, loudest, and most out-spoken critic. After he won the election, he retreated into the background, having very little to say in public.

The things some people will say/do to keep a job.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:54:20pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Kathy needed a set of rabies shots after dealing with Schlock!

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BeachDem  Mar 30, 2017 • 9:55:59pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

@yashar is such a fun follow

Start here

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Love, love, love that story. You should tweet it to Rebecca Schoenkopf if she hasn’t seen it.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:06:10pm

These arm-chair theologians piss me off. And I’m an atheist!

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mmmirele  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:07:16pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

You know, this actually raises Prince Charles in my estimation, that he’d have Kathy Griffin as a guest. I’m shocked.

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mmmirele  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:11:11pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

These arm-chair theologians piss me off. And I’m an atheist!

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I wish I lived in his neck of the woods, I’d give his church a protest, just for the sheer hell of it. Greg Laurie and the rest of those preachers are all about the power and the glory. They’re cuddled up with politicians, they aren’t where Jesus was, which was with the poor, downcast and outcast. *scowl*

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majii  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:11:43pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

“These arm-chair theologians piss me off. And I’m an atheist!”

Unless this guy lived in the First Century CE and witnessed what he’s claiming firsthand, he’s blowing smoke, and he knows it. If he’s basing his tweet on something he read from that century, he still can’t reach the conclusion he has reached and support it because he has no way of knowing how all Christians behaved at that time. Also, few persons in the First Century CE could read or write, so it’s very likely his tweet is based on something he’s read that a few theologians who were literate at the time wrote.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:12:19pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:13:02pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:14:42pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

These arm-chair theologians piss me off. And I’m an atheist!

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Like he knows what they did. The documentary evidence is scant, and not all that reliable. For all we know, early Christians got drunk on wine and held drum circles in the desert.

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Shazam  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:16:55pm

Early Christians were mostly the poorest of the poor, because back then Christianity was actually about charity and helping the meek. The poor at that time made up the bulk of the military. Constantine figured having the same religion as his soldiers would promote camaraderie and help him win, so he converted. Thus, Christianity became the major religion in Europe. It wasn’t because they outlived or out-thought anyone, which is unlikely since they were mostly so poor.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:20:35pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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The “out-lived” part certainly doesn’t agree with those stories I heard
in Sunday school.

Today’s scores from the Colosseum:

Elmo the Gladiator 1, Daedalus the Gladiator 0
Bracchus the Axeman 1, Former Senator Gaius 0
Hyenas 3, Escaped slaves 0
Lions 56, Christians 0

And we won’t even mention Nero’s famous tar-covered Christian garden lamps.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:23:41pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

I never went to Sunday school. Sundays were family ski day for a good bulk of my early childhood.

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:27:35pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

That thread is salacious as all hell. Classic Kathy Griffin!

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William Lewis  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:31:27pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

These arm-chair theologians piss me off. And I’m an atheist!

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Snicker. Boy needs to read some history by someone with a clue by 4.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:33:08pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

I never went to Sunday school. Sundays were family ski day for a good bulk of my early childhood.

You didn’t miss much. The teachers were a bunch of rubes that I constantly caught in factual errors even when I was 8 or 9 years old. One thought “Israel” referred only to the ancient kingdom, while the modern state was called “Israeli.” Knew another one who pronounced Assyria “Azz-ruh” for some obscure Tex-bonic reason.
When I was really young, like 4 or 5, I thought Bible stories were happening in heaven in the present day, and we were getting a weekly update on the celestial goings-on every Sunday.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:40:30pm

My Baptist minister son-in-law claims he can hear echoes of Baptist fire-and-brimstone in my characteristic rhetorical and writing style. In contrast, my brother the Nazarene minister thinks a lot of it comes from British popular works on aviation——William Green, Bill Gunston, etc.——which I read voraciously when I was young (and still do).

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:44:05pm

Here you go, teleskiguy

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:47:52pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:49:32pm

rumors president indistinct throat clearing noise considering resignation

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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:52:35pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel

That’s great!

Here’s an old page I did about a pro skier visiting North Korea to go skiing, you probably saw it, eh?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:54:37pm

re: #27 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

rumors president indistinct throat clearing noise considering resignation

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There’s an interesting scenario: Trump “retires,” claiming the press “hounded him out of office.” The hope being that Russiagate will either A) fizzle out or B) lead to now-President Pence preemptively pardoning him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:55:09pm

re: #27 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I doubt he’d ever resign, can’t look like a failure and all that.

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JordanRules  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:55:09pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:56:34pm

Can’t believe I missed this one earlier.
The comrades are catching on to this “spin” business, so necessary to influence American masses:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:59:01pm

re: #18 Shazam

Early Christians were mostly the poorest of the poor, because back then Christianity was actually about charity and helping the meek. The poor at that time made up the bulk of the military. Constantine figured having the same religion as his soldiers would promote camaraderie and help him win, so he converted. Thus, Christianity became the major religion in Europe. It wasn’t because they outlived or out-thought anyone, which is unlikely since they were mostly so poor.

true, but xianity did have a compelling story, especially the part that told the downtrodden that they were as good as anybody else and would be exalted in the world to come. traditional roman religion was often a staid civic affair and had a less gripping story, and the poor mostly experienced it as a personal matter in terms of a divine source to appeal to for help. in the first few centuries AD people in the roman empire often turned to exotic religions looking for inspiration and the excitement of mystery and ceremony, and in the end xianity had the best

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JordanRules  Mar 30, 2017 • 10:59:50pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:12:00pm

re: #31 JordanRules

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As the first comment over there notes, Rubio was one of the only voices who spoke up when Wikileaks released the Podesta emails, cautioning the GOP that they wouldn’t like it if the same happened to them. I think he knew or strongly suspected that his campaign specifically and the GOP in general had been the subject of hacking.

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majii  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:21:58pm

re: #34 JordanRules

In re to Trump resigning.

Imagine how many of his supporters will be heartbroken to discover that the “strong leader” they revere isn’t so strong after all. I don’t know whether he’ll resign or not, but if he does, the reason will be that he’s been out of his depth since he was inaugurated, and he’s finally realizing that when he was attacking #44, he had no idea how difficult the job of being POTUS is. I also can’t overlook the fact that Trump gets bored easily. He’s probably already tired of being POTUS, especially since he now knows that not all of the opposition to him in Congress comes from Democrats.

The job looked different to him when he was on the outside looking in, but now that he’s expected to do the job of #44 and his predecessors, the job is harder than he ever imagined it was. If he does resign, he should call PBO and apologize for all of the attacks he launched at him without cause for the sole purpose of convincing a majority of Americans that he was more competent at everything than he really is.

He’s a naked man, walking the halls of the WH, ranting BS.

Emperor ain’t got no clothes.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:22:33pm

re: #34 JordanRules

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They might want to make nice with Ryan, too, just in case. Inquisitor in Chief or Zombie-eyed Granny Starver. It’s a hell of a choice but still better than the Rancid Papaya.

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JordanRules  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:22:45pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

I had totally forgotten about that. I hope it all comes out. I want to know everything.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:23:29pm
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JordanRules  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:30:15pm

re: #36 majii

He is buck-ed naked. I can’t imagine him resigning unless it is, as suggested earlier, to save him from certain prison time. The spin of course will be absurd and symbolic of this horrendous regime.

He would never consider one kind thought for Obama and his bigotry will feed his delusions, that he is still inherently better than the black dude and the chic, until he dies.

Anyone with any sense could see he was spectacularly unqualified and out of his league.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:30:29pm

re: #36 majii

If Trump resigns from office, he will insist on portraying himself as the “victim” of a grand conspiracy to chase him out of office. That he left not because he was a total failure at governing, that his poll numbers were lower than a snake’s balls, or that there was a gathering storm on the horizon that smelled of borscht. No, it will be that the “Deep State” or whatever he chooses to call the conspiracy instigated by Obama waged a propoaganda campaign against him, turned Republicans against him, and ultimately destroyed his presidency through lies about him and Putin (who he still totally likes and thinks it would be awesome if we could get along with).

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:33:18pm

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JordanRules  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:34:27pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel

Rachel made a very good case tonight about how much of a reach it is to think Pence is clean in regard to the Flynn portion of this. There’s just so much that’s dirty. We need to assign chapters or something.

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2017 • 11:44:32pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 31, 2017 • 12:07:08am

re: #41 Targetpractice

So he’d know how Hillary feels, but handle it with much less no grace whatsoever.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 31, 2017 • 12:47:19am

re: #43 JordanRules

Rachel made a very good case tonight about how much of a reach it is to think Pence is clean in regard to the Flynn portion of this. There’s just so much that’s dirty. We need to assign chapters or something.

I think Pence is almost certainly dirty, given his position in the campaign. He was the closest legitimately experienced politician to the Trump-Bannon cabal and they would reflexively have gone to him for advice on their collusion plans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 12:55:54am

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

I think Pence is almost certainly dirty, given his position in the campaign. He was the closest legitimately experienced politician to the Trump-Bannon cabal and they would reflexively have gone to him for advice on their collusion plans.

No point in getting rid of Pussy Grabber if we are going to keep Mommy Man.

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2017 • 12:57:08am

This guy ran for governor of Idaho in 2014. I’ll bet he’s a Trump supporter.

Idaho GOP Governors Primary Debate (May 14, 2014)

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freetoken  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:35:14am

re: #15 teleskiguy

There is zip, zero, data on lifespans of Christians in the first century.

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freetoken  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:38:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:39:03am

re: #49 freetoken

There is zip, zero, data on lifespans of Christians in the first century.

I can agree that early Christians had to lead and gain followers by example: they had no government or semi-governmental agencies imposing their views on anyone, but rather the opposite. That all changes after the 4th century, though…

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freetoken  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:43:18am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Point was… Laurie is just pulling claims out of his ass. Show me the data on Christian lifespans in the first century.

Also, for “out-thought” the others… where are the treatise on anything? The NT itself is a rather poor example of literature as far as great Greek writing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:44:06am

re: #52 freetoken

Point was… Laurie is just pulling claims out of his ass. Show me the data on Christian lifespans in the first century.

Also, for “out-thought” the others… where are the treatise on anything? The NT itself is a rather poor example of literature as far as great Greek writing.

of course…but these people’s entire worldview is faith-based…facts are secondary at best

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:47:49am

Honestly, I can see a set of scenarios that are increasingly bad for the GOP’s long term prospects:

- The best case scenario for them at this point is that somebody steps up and falls on their sword to save Trump’s ass. But who could do so? Manafort? He’s too much of a merc to do that, he’d cut a deal in a heartbeat. Flynn’s already trying to save his own ass, so he’s out of the running. Pence? Not a chance, he’s not going to sacrifice his chance at the Big Chair to save Don’s corpulant ass. Bannon would sooner sell his mother’s soul, so he’s out of the running. And Jared’s family, so not gonna happen. And Rinsed? Even “Party Uber Alles” won’t see him going to jail in the name of Donald Trump.

- The next best case would be Comrade Combover pulling a Nixon, resigning before the formal charges can come so Pence can pardon him and the nation can “heal.” In such a scenario, Trump gets out before the shit truly hits the fan, allowing the GOP to argue that the whole matter is resolved so we can “move forward” under President Pence. The biggest issue they’ll have will be filling the slots that will resign (voluntarily or otherwise) in the wake of Trump’s departure.

- The bad scenarios start with the GOP visibly axing the congressional investigations, either by canning them or visibly manipulating the results to insist that nothing criminal happened. That might seem like a viable option right now, but what it would create in the long run in a festering wound that would leave the party vulnerable next year, but most especially in 2020 if Trump runs for reelection under the cloud of having avoided prosecution through partisan politics.

- Next down on the bad side of things would be the appointment of an independent prosecutor or a select committee, taking the GOP out of a direct role over the investigation. Not only would the whole mess drag on, probably into the midterms and possibly into the 2020 elections, but there would be a very serious chance of criminal charges being recommended that they would find virtually impossible to bury.

- And the absolute worst scenario right now would the FBI coming out in the next few months and announcing the recommendation of criminal charges against one or more members of the Trump administration. Because one that happens, all bets are off. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III will no doubt put the kibosh on moving forward with formal charges, but that will only add fuel to the fire. In such a scenario, things for the GOP would go from “bad” to “totally screwed,” as they’d have virtually no argument against articles of impeachment that didn’t begin and end with “He’s one of us!” Not a winning strategy when the guy whose ass you’re defending is polling worse than syphilis.

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freetoken  Mar 31, 2017 • 2:01:03am

re: #54 Targetpractice

I just don’t see the voting patterns in this country changing in a way to hurt the GOP to reduce them from power as quickly as needed. It could take multiple crises before the electorate decides to finally wash its hands of the do-nothing know-nothing Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 2:03:23am

re: #55 freetoken

I just don’t see the voting patterns in this country changing in a way to hurt the GOP to reduce them from power as quickly as needed. It could take multiple crises before the electorate decides to finally wash its hands of the do-nothing know-nothing Republicans.

as well as some serious de-gerrymandering of states so that the GOP is not over-proportionally represented in terms of votes cast

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Ming5000  Mar 31, 2017 • 2:51:14am

At nymag.com:
Flynn’s Offer to Testify in Exchange for Immunity May Not Be as Explosive as It Sounds
By Margaret Hartmann

Alex Whiting writes:

“The fact that Flynn and his lawyer have made his offer publicly suggests that he has nothing good to give the prosecutors (either because he cannot incriminate others or is unwilling to do so). If he had something good, Flynn and his lawyer would approach the prosecutors quietly,…”

If nothing else, the dribs and drabs of information seem to be keeping the pressure on.

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2017 • 3:04:27am

re: #57 Ming5000

At nymag.com:
Flynn’s Offer to Testify in Exchange for Immunity May Not Be as Explosive as It Sounds
By Margaret Hartmann

If nothing else, the dribs and drabs of information seem to be keeping the pressure on.

I think it’s a bit of both: Flynn has nothing incriminating on people above him, but he knows there’s shit that’s waiting to fall on his head and wants to get ahead of it.

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Ming5000  Mar 31, 2017 • 3:08:01am

btw, that Downward Dog video was funny.
And the cat makes an appearance in the series. (spoiler; cat is an “emotional terrorist”)

DOWNWARD DOG Official Trailer (HD) Allison Tolman Comedy

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Varek Raith  Mar 31, 2017 • 4:07:40am

Good morning.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 4:32:34am

A “witch hunt” is when Wikileaks accused HRC & Podesta of ACTUAL WITCHCRAFT.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2017 • 4:38:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 4:48:48am
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weave  Mar 31, 2017 • 4:53:35am

This just in. Apparently now there’s “evidence” that Scalia was MURDERED.

That is if you believe a website called “USA Politics Today”

… a recent report from an independent lab that tests fluids that aren’t normally part of the typical autopsy process has concluded that a chemical found in foxglove, a deadly plant known to cause heart failure when ingested, was found in the spinal fluid and ocular fluid, or fluid of the eye.

… and …

Is it a globalist group looking to make SCOTUS a more liberal entity? The idea of Obama and his shadow government, which has been in place now since 2104 when congress was taken by the Republicans, having some involvement is also being tossed around.

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freetoken  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:02:21am

Apparently the hard-core know-nothings are afraid the new EPA chief is going soft on them:

Conservatives fear EPA chief going soft on climate science

Breitbart News columnist James Delingpole wrote this week that Pruitt should consider resigning if he won’t repeal the endangerment finding, saying that he “is more interested in building his political career than he is taking on the Green Blob.”

As if anything Delingpole writes is good for anything other than the bottom of the bird cage…

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:06:41am

re: #64 weave

The idea of Obama and his shadow government, which has been in place now since 2104

Time Lord. Goddamn, I knew it.

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jeffreyw  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:15:13am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:20:34am

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:26:59am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No point in getting rid of Pussy Grabber if we are going to keep Mommy Man.

Disagree. Mommy man is an asshole, but will be severely damaged. Also, will be unelectable. If/When Trump goes down, Republicans will be forced to do damage control 24/7 and have less time to fuck up the environment, etc.

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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:30:51am

re: #52 freetoken

Point was… Laurie is just pulling claims out of his ass. Show me the data on Christian lifespans in the first century.

Also, for “out-thought” the others… where are the treatise on anything? The NT itself is a rather poor example of literature as far as great Greek writing.

well, it was being written by people who spoke tradesman’s greek as a second language. basically, it’s like expecting housekeeping at a Best Western to speak Cervantian Spanish.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:34:18am

Republicans love MLK so much they plagiarize him:

A line used by a Republican candidate for lieutenant governor in a speech Monday is nearly identical to a famous line from a sermon by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

State Sen. Bryce E. Reeves of Spotsylvania County used the words in a speech at Liberty University, where several statewide candidates addressed students at a convocation.

“It was an honest mistake,” said Samantha Azzarelli, a spokeswoman for the Reeves campaign. She declined to explain further.

The words in question come from a 1963 volume of King’s sermons titled “Strength to Love.”

King said: “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”

Reeves said Monday: “The ultimate measure of a man or woman is not where he or she stands in times of comfort, but where you stand in times of challenge and tribulation and controversy.”

richmond.com

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:34:45am

No rage tweets yet?

Someone must have slept in….

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:35:51am

re: #69 I Would Prefer Not To

And also, I can’t see Pence going full Pres. Stillson on us…he might be a weird dominionist, but he’s a weird dominionist that probably won’t blow up the world because somebody called him names on Twitter. Of course, if I’d been asked to predict the current state of the world, I would NEVER have guessed we’d be here, now, in THIS mess, so take my predictions for what they’re worth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:35:54am

re: #72 makeitstop

No rage tweets yet?

Someone must have slept in….

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b.d.  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:36:49am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:36:54am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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Still with the “big election loss” bullshit.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:37:34am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

Still with the “big election loss” bullshit.

One track mind. Perhaps sign of senility.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:39:16am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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Ah. I saw that one, didn’t look at the time stamp. I thought it was from last night.

Brad Jaffy responded with this.

Like someone said - Trump’s old tweets are straight trolling his own presidency now.

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b.d.  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:40:09am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

Still with the “big election loss” bullshit.

well…..losing to Donald F*cking Trump is not something to be proud of…it was the biggest election loss for sane people….ever….

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b.d.  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:40:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 5:42:50am

re: #79 b.d.

well…..losing to Donald F*cking Trump is not something to be proud of…it was the biggest election loss for sane people….ever….

Look closely at the 3 states he Putin flipped for him

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b.d.  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:00:07am

Funny how Donald hasn’t gotten his EO pen out to correct this Obama travesty…or even mention it at all?

//

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wheat-dogg  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:01:56am

re: #82 b.d.

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Funny how Donald hasn’t gotten his EO pen out to correct this Obama travesty…or even mention it at all?

//

I’ve never been on a cruise, and never really had the urge, but sailing into Havana would be way cool.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:03:06am

re: #82 b.d.

Mostly because Trump violated the embargo by trying to do business there too.

That, however, hasn’t stopped some of his closest aides from traveling to Cuba for years and scouting potential sites and investments. The U.S. trade embargo, first established in 1962, prohibits U.S. citizens from traveling to the island. But over the years, the U.S. has carved out allowances for family visits, journalism, and other social causes. Most commercial activity is still forbidden, though, with a few exceptions, such as selling medical supplies or food. Golf isn’t on that list.

Yeah, we remember that time he wanted to go open a golf course in Cuba, but that embargo thing made things tough. So he tried to find a way around it.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:03:24am

Juxtapositional brilliance:

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b.d.  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:04:03am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

I’ve never been on a cruise, and never really had the urge, but sailing into Havana would be way cool.

It sure would be……what a waste of the last 50 years.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:06:07am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

I’ve been on one cruise, that that was enough for me. But going to Havana would definitely change my view (a straight flight on JetBlue from JFK would be even better IMO ). I’ve got family ties to the island that I want to check out.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:08:09am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:09:57am

re: #87 lawhawk

I’ve been on one cruise, that that was enough for me. But going to Havana would definitely change my view (a straight flight on JetBlue from JFK would be even better IMO ). I’ve got family ties to the island that I want to check out.

re: #86 b.d.

It sure would be……what a waste of the last 50 years.

I figure a cruise from Miami to Havana would be short enough that I wouldn’t go bonkers (or broke) on the ship. Two weeks on a ship (sorry Navy vets!) would be too much for me.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:10:22am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:10:48am

re: #82 b.d.

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Funny how Donald hasn’t gotten his EO pen out to correct this Obama travesty…or even mention it at all?

//

He doesn’t need those idiot Cuban-Americans who thought he would do anything until 2020.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:12:12am

Trump’s running through all the tv tropes about running a government. Parks and Recreation. Veep. And now, we’re entering the Scarface phase. Scorched earth tactics. Unnatural affection towards a family member. Paranoia. Disjointed thinking. (Drugs). Lots of drugs.

And a violent end.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:12:49am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Not really a surprise. House Republicans are either not very bright or IOKIYAR. Actually they reflect their electorate; they are the average voter, with no indepth knowledge of any issue

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mmmirele  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:14:13am

re: #11 teleskiguy

Much to my surprise, this tweet in response to Greg Laurie got a bunch of likes (for me):

And my brain reminded me that Greg Laurie IS going to be in my neck of the woods, having a stadium rally (UofP stadium, same place the Final Four is being played this weekend) on June 11. So now I’m wondering what the situation is like over at UofP for a protest and whether I really want to drive 40 miles on a Sunday afternoon just to let a small segment of public know that Laurie is all about the power and the glory—for him.

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:14:49am

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

I disagree, WE represent the average voter, they represent the other half, the ones that are dumber than average.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:18:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:19:19am

re: #69 I Would Prefer Not To

Disagree. Mommy man is an asshole, but will be severely damaged. Also, will be unelectable. If/When Trump goes down, Republicans will be forced to do damage control 24/7 and have less time to fuck up the environment, etc.

Even being damaged will not prevent him from working hard to impose his agenda, which is every bit as bad as PG’s plus cracking down on LGBT and reproductive rights.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:24:13am
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:26:20am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Order that Democrats would prefer in the impeachment/resignation business.

Pence, Trump, then Ryan.

Get Pence out first, and while Ryan’s no winner, he’d be the least bad option here. His ineffective run as Speaker would continue as president, and he too would have to work with Democrats while the House GOP caucus devolves into a morass of recriminations and factions.

It’d be a replay of the Nixon WH saga. Agnew resigned, and Ford was elevated from the House.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:27:50am

Speaking of Roger Stone, he’s got some other legal business to tend to. He’s currently defending a defamation suit, but the trial was postponed.

Guy’s up to his eyeballs in mischigas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:28:41am

re: #73 I cannot.

And also, I can’t see Pence going full Pres. Stillson on us…he might be a weird dominionist, but he’s a weird dominionist that probably won’t blow up the world because somebody called him names on Twitter. Of course, if I’d been asked to predict the current state of the world, I would NEVER have guessed we’d be here, now, in THIS mess, so take my predictions for what they’re worth.

But these guys would not hesitate to blow up Israel to help kick-start the Second Coming…I don’t know which is worse…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:31:14am

So, speaking of scary things, I see there’s a new trailer for the upcoming big-screen adaptation of It.

IT Trailer (2017)

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:32:07am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even being damaged will not prevent him from working hard to impose his agenda, which is every bit as bad as PG’s plus cracking down on LGBT and reproductive rights.

Either way, we’re being served a shit sandwich here. We’re just arguing over what type of condiments we’re topping it off with at this point.

But one thing to consider is that Pence has all the charisma of a bowl of oatmeal. He may know how the levers of government work a lot better than Trump, but that’s no guarantee that he’ll use them any more effectively.

Remember, Pence was on his way to losing the governorship in Indiana before he was picked for VP. A bad agenda minus Trump’s psycho charisma is just a bad agenda, and I don’t think Pence would be able to sell the American people on a lot of it.

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:34:21am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

True, but then you have the divide between the two types of dominionist, the ones that WOULD blow up Israel (or allow it to be blown up), and the other type that, despite being batshit crazy, won’t blow up the world because they keep all their shit here.

I believe that Pence is the latter type…again, take my predictions for what they’re worth.

re: #103 makeitstop

Hey, I LIKE oatmeal, and again, as your Indiana correspondent, I’m not sure how much stronger Mike’s grasp of how to run the government is.

“The RFRA doesn’t permit discrimination”
“Have you read it”
(you can actually hear gears grinding inside his skull as he tries to think of an answer)

And then there was the epic “Fix This Now” headline in the Indy Star…

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:34:37am

re: #103 makeitstop

A lame duck Pence would be as dangerous as any other GOPer in that position. The Congressional GOP would see him as they do Trump, a guy who can help pass through their extreme agenda.

I don’t know if he’d be any more effective than Trump, and given their policy choices, Pence runs towards Christian theocracy whereas Trump runs towards amoral autocracy.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:40:35am

Seen on Facebook…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:48:15am

We’re in big trouble if they learn how to self-replicate.

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Varek Raith  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:58:33am

Wanna hear the sound of ‘nope’ and ‘Imma gtfo of here’?

Tornado Sirens in Downtown Chicago!

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 6:59:42am

Psycho General’s psycho kid weighs in…with the battle cry of ‘fake news,’ what else?

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:04:37am

re: #108 Varek Raith

Wanna hear the sound of ‘nope’ and ‘Imma gtfo of here’?

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Video

Geez, that about creeped me out of my skin and I’m nowhere near Chicago.

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darthstar  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:06:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:06:17am

re: #110 makeitstop

Geez, that about creeped me out of my skin and I’m nowhere near Chicago.

That is the sound of a defective tornado siren, but yeah, one totally expects to see the UFOs descending out of the fog…

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Varek Raith  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:08:35am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the sound of a defective tornado siren, but yeah, one totally expects to see the UFOs descending out of the fog…

It’s intentional.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:08:55am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the sound of a defective tornado siren, but yeah, one totally expects to see the UFOs descending out of the fog…

REAPERS!!1!

Mass Effect Reaper Horn

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:10:44am

re: #113 Varek Raith

It’s intentional.

It would get my attention in a half second.

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Skip Intro  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:13:48am

re: #82 b.d.

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Funny how Donald hasn’t gotten his EO pen out to correct this Obama travesty…or even mention it at all?

//

Rush Limbaugh likes Cuban cigars. That’s why.

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Skip Intro  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:16:03am

re: #100 lawhawk

Speaking of Roger Stone, he’s got some other legal business to tend to. He’s currently defending a defamation suit, but the trial was postponed.

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Guy’s up to his eyeballs in mischigas.

Guess who’s going to be on Bill Maher’s show tonight? If that’s not enough to get you watching Frothy will be there too. No Coulter or Ingraham though.

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:18:14am

re: #118 Skip Intro

Why not just invite Rage Furby, weev, Punchface AND a random asshole to be named later?

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:22:21am

re: #109 makeitstop

His dad’s got a lawyer who is doing what Flynn (or his idiot son) can’t. Make a case that he’s considering a deal.

But Flynn is already his own worst enemy, since he’s already shown how desperate he is to cut a deal. He’s undercut his own bargaining position.

His idiot son thinks that his fake news bullshit spewage helps his dad, but it doesn’t do a damned thing. Riling up the Trump base may win him brownie points, but he’s playing checkers while investigators are swarming in 3d chess. His idiot son may want to dial things back a bit before he begins interferes with the investigation and gets hit for obstruction.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:23:30am

re: #120 lawhawk

Obstruction of justice charge from a tweet? I wonder if that would be a legal first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:24:57am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Obstruction of justice charge from a tweet? I wonder if that would be a legal first.

because nobody to date has been that arrogantly stoopid

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:25:47am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Tweets are what will bring down quite a few of these Trump people, starting with Trump. But in Junior’s case, I think he’s doing more than just tweets. He’s running interference.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:26:44am

re: #118 Skip Intro

I’ll pass.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:27:51am
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darthstar  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:31:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:35:38am

re: #125 lawhawk

What propaganda looks like.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:38:14am

Good morning!

No one has posted this yet???

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:39:47am
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darthstar  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:43:11am

Jesus…Greg Sargent RT’d me and now my phone is exploding.

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darthstar  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:44:57am

re: #129 lawhawk

If she hadn’t lost the election Flynn would be on the conservative talk show circuit talking about how she should be locked up and not seeking immunity for himself so it’s her fault.
/

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:45:00am

re: #130 darthstar

Jesus…Greg Sargent RT’d me and now my phone is exploding.

I’ve had that happen before

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:47:09am

Juxtaposition of the day:

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:50:09am

re: #108 Varek Raith

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:52:36am

re: #128 Stanley Sea

The itty bitty head and big fat ass… hahaha!

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darthstar  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:55:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 7:59:08am

re: #136 darthstar

When the FBI brings Pence in for questioning, I want it to be one female agent alone in a room with him, drinking. He’ll crack in a second.

when he calls out for his mother, they will have to ask him which one…

Mike Pence, the boy with two mommies.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:07:37am

One of these days Josh Marshall is going to win some major journalism awards. He’s been doing some major dot-connecting of late.

Lauren Rozen reports tonight that Cohen-Watnick is apparently a family friend of Frank Gaffney, one of DC’s most prominent and influential Islamophobes as well as someone who is closely tied into the Bannon/Breitbart world. Rozen was also told that Cohen-Watnick was first rejected by the CIA before going to work at the DIA. These are simply shreds of biography. But they add up to a familiar picture, one that makes sense of his apparently close relationship with Flynn.

In this latest turn of events, Cohen-Watnick apparently scanned through highly classified material looking for something to justify Trump’s ridiculous wiretapping tweet. He then found a way to get that material to Devin Nunes when Nunes visited the White House in the middle of the night. Nunes then returned to the White House the next day to present the information to Trump. Again, it’s not altogether clear to me whether Nunes or Trump actually realized that the material was of little real consequence and had no bearing on Trump’s tweets. However that may be, at a minimum Cohen-Watnick was using his access to highly classified information to mount a political pushback campaign against the various Trump/Russia probes and quite likely breaking the law to do so.

But Bart Gellman, who has a very granular understanding of the modalities and rules tied to handling this kind of material, suggests an additional possibility: that Cohen-Watnick et al. had this material because they were using their privileged access to the nation’s top secrets to keep tabs on the FBI’s investigation of Trump and his top associates. Yes, read that last sentence again, I’ll wait.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:11:36am
But Bart Gellman, who has a very granular understanding of the modalities and rules tied to handling this kind of material, suggests an additional possibility: that Cohen-Watnick et al. had this material because they were using their privileged access to the nation’s top secrets to keep tabs on the FBI’s investigation of Trump and his top associates. Yes, read that last sentence again, I’ll wait.

Bingo.

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:13:58am

re: #8 majii

“I’m sure that’ll go over well with voters in Utah who weren’t exactly enamored with Trump to begin with”

Hatch is a political pretzel. He changes his views and says new things depending upon which way the right-wing wind is blowing. I remember the last time he ran for reelection and the Tea Party was very vocal, he was viewed by some GOPers as not being anti-Obama enough, so he suddenly decided he was going to lead the charge against #44. Before then, I seldom read anything he said at all about anything. To keep his seat, he became #44’s harshest, loudest, and most out-spoken critic. After he won the election, he retreated into the background, having very little to say in public.

The things some people will say/do to keep a job.

A job that pays upwards of a quarter million Grade A, US taxpayer funded dollars a year plus primo benefits. And the parties are FAB! Talk about living the life.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:16:18am

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Look closely at the 3 states he Putin flipped for him

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There will always be those that will blame the election loss on Clinton.

And they will always excuse all the factors that led to it.

Why? Because this was Donald Trump and she had this made in the shade.

I won’t forget her own words on the campaign about not taking anything for granted. I think she knew this wasn’t going to be pretty. I remember all the emails I got about the concerns right up until the day of the vote.

You know, it’s like sports. I just had local ESPN radio on as I was cleaning up some stuff in my kitchen. I just heard a guy going off on Lebron James and how he is the most over rated player in NBA history. And if the Cavs don’t win another playoff game, it is proof of just how bad he is.

Rational? Americans don’t so rational anymore.

I said it to Decatur Deb the other evening. This was a unique, 100 year storm. There were so many things that have never happened in an election in this country before.

Could Clinton have done better?

Tell me how you would ever know? What is your reasoning? Are you considering all factors?

Instead of finding a safe space to live in and give reason to myself of why she lost, I’m going to go with the now well-worn: It is what it is.

Our country is what it is. Our country did this. To me it isn’t what Clinton didn’t do.

I always will ask how much the “she has this in the bag, no way she can lose to this oaf” factored in?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:16:47am

Is anyone else getting a super creepout vibe from Tulsi Gabbard? It looks like Putin is already ratfucking the 2020 election.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:19:17am

No thanks, nah.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:20:18am

re: #141 ObserverArt

I’m still pissed at apathetic Democrats who couldn’t be bothered to help out at all, including a lot of the lower-level party organization.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:23:13am

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Gabbard’s gonna get sucked into the Trump scandal vortex.

It is inevitable. Just watch. Her actions, particularly re: Syria are weird coincidences at best.

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:23:44am

re: #34 JordanRules

That’s comforting. A US POTUS who cannot be anywhere near a woman who isn’t “mother”.

Outfuckingstanding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:25:53am

re: #141 ObserverArt

There will always be those that will blame the election loss on Clinton.

And they will always excuse all the factors that led to it.

Russia saw our weaknesses and knew exactly how to exploit them: ratfucking with the Berniebros on one side, keeping up the endless drumbeat of unfounded e-mail, Clinton foundation and Benghazi outrages, and generally playing on our knee-jerk reaction to headlines without even reading the article.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:29:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:32:26am

re: #146 MsJ

That’s comforting. A US POTUS who cannot be anywhere near a woman who isn’t “mother”.

Outfuckingstanding.

President Norman Bates?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:32:44am

Dylann Roof decided that he doesn’t want to die.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:39:09am

re: #100 lawhawk

Speaking of Roger Stone, he’s got some other legal business to tend to. He’s currently defending a defamation suit, but the trial was postponed.

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Guy’s up to his eyeballs in mischigas.

Yeah…speaking of Roger Stone.

“Squirrel”

That he will always be. Along with a rat.

Yahoo News - Trump ally Roger Stone won’t identify his WikiLeaks contact — even to Congress

Iframe

Despite offering to testify before the House and Senate intelligence committees and “fully cooperate” in their probes of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Roger Stone today put sharp limits on what he’s prepared to say: He won’t identify a mysterious intermediary who gave him advance notice about WikiLeaks document dumps, and he won’t respond to any questions about his continuing communications with President Trump.

In a combative interview Thursday with Yahoo News, Stone — a longtime adviser to Trump — pulled back from an initial promise to answer every question when he testifies before the panels.

“[That’s] probably the one question I would decline to answer,” Stone said in the interview, when pressed on the identity of a source who gave him information from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange last summer, tipping him off to the imminent release of materials damaging to Hillary Clinton that had been hacked by Russian intelligence. He added, “I’m just as much a journalist as you are, my friend. … I have no intention of burning a source.”

“When you go up there and testify under oath, you will refuse to answer questions about your intermediary?” Stone was asked.

“I would not give up a source any more than you would,” he responded. Stone later added another issue that he will consider off-limits to the committees. After acknowledging that he remains in touch with President Trump and has “heard from him recently,” Stone said that he won’t testify about what they talk about, but insisted their communications are not about the Russia probes. “I’m not going to disclose individual conversations with the president or communications with him,” he said.

Stone’s role in the Russia probes has attracted increasing attention in recent weeks, amid disclosures that he had a series of private direct message communications with Guccifer 2.0 — an online persona that U.S. officials concluded was a front for Russian intelligence. In addition, Stone’s tweets last summer indicating that he had advance information about WikiLeaks releases raised suspicions that he was communicating with another key actor in the Russia probe — and the possibility that this may constitute evidence of collusion between the Kremlin and the Trump camp.

“It will soon [be] Podesta’s time in the barrel,” Stone tweeted on Aug. 21. Then: “Wednesdy @HillaryClinton is done. #Wikileaks,” Stone tweeted on Oct. 2, five days before the first release by WikiLeaks of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails.

“An individual associated with the Trump campaign accurately predicted the release of hacked emails weeks before it happened,” Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the ranking Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, said Thursday during a committee hearing, in an obvious reference to Stone, and citing it as evidence of possible collusion. “This same individual also admits to being in contact with Guccifer 2.0, the Russian intelligence persona responsible for these cyber operations.”

But Stone repeatedly insisted that these contacts and tweets were entirely innocent, and can be easily explained. He rejected the conclusions of U.S. intelligence agencies that Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks had any connections to the Russians — or even that the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and the Podesta emails was carried out by the Russians.

Iframe

More at link…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:40:39am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

President Norman Bates?

They’ll see……..why, he wouldn’t even harm a fly.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:42:42am

re: #104 I cannot.

True, but then you have the divide between the two types of dominionist, the ones that WOULD blow up Israel (or allow it to be blown up), and the other type that, despite being batshit crazy, won’t blow up the world because they keep all their shit here.

I believe that Pence is the latter type…again, take my predictions for what they’re worth.

Hey, I LIKE oatmeal, and again, as your Indiana correspondent, I’m not sure how much stronger Mike’s grasp of how to run the government is.

“The RFRA doesn’t permit discrimination”
“Have you read it”
(you can actually hear gears grinding inside his skull as he tries to think of an answer)

And then there was the epic “Fix This Now” headline in the Indy Star…

He seems to always have a perplexed look on his face with a slight grin to make it seem like he understands. He seems very dull and lacking in inquisitiveness. I guess that all comes when you are assured that Gawd has saved you and has your back.

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Varek Raith  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:43:38am

re: #148 Stanley Sea

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Desperation much?

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Mattand  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:54:27am

re: #26 Kragar

Got a IRL LOLROFL from me on that one! Well done!

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:55:57am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

President Norman Bates?

Ayatollah “Norman Bates” Pence, supreme leader of the American theocratic party.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:56:11am

re: #143 Stanley Sea

No thanks, nah.

‘We’ve got enough to indict you already, thx.’

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:58:10am

Can General Flynn jump on a plane and fly to Russia?

Will he?

Would he be stopped?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 8:58:25am

re: #158 makeitstop

‘We’ve got enough to indict you already, thx.’

More, “We aren’t opening that can of worms when Sessions would just fire us anyway.”

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:01:03am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:02:10am

re: #161 Citizen K

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Bernie Madoff was unavailable for comment.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:06:41am

In other news, it looks like Elliot Lusztig has bailed from Twitter again.

Too bad. I enjoyed his take on things.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:07:12am

re: #162 Timothy Watson

Bernie Madoff was unavailable for comment.

But seriously, it’s some weird fucking deification of the rich, ascribing some virtue that the rich could NEVER, EVER steal because why would they, they already get money! Like, the very ownership of vast amounts of money makes someone a saint. You know, not even getting into the idea that maybe the reason they have all that money is because they got it through illicit means…

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:08:07am

re: #163 makeitstop

In other news, it looks like Elliot Lusztig has bailed from Twitter again.

Too bad. I enjoyed his take on things.

What do you mean? I see tweets from him from an hour ago.

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:09:07am

re: #163 makeitstop

He posted 23 minutes ago, maybe Twitter just being fucked up…AGAIN.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:09:13am

re: #163 makeitstop

In other news, it looks like Elliot Lusztig has bailed from Twitter again.

Too bad. I enjoyed his take on things.

Hrm? Got the specific tweet where he said he’s backing away? Seems he’s on a long thread about colonial and mercantile European powers for some reason, ATM.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:09:34am

re: #164 Citizen K

But seriously, it’s some weird fucking deification of the rich, ascribing some virtue that the rich could NEVER, EVER steal because why would they, they already get money! Like, the very ownership of vast amounts of money makes someone a saint. You know, not even getting into the idea that maybe the reason they have all that money is because they got it through illicit means…

People who are rich have been anointed by God, so they couldn’t possibly do anything wrong.

That’s standard Calvinist teaching.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:09:49am

re: #165 MsJ

What do you mean? I see tweets from him from an hour ago.

Seriously? Guess I gotta clear muh cache. :)

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:10:05am

re: #161 Citizen K

When you’re rich, it’s not “theft” it’s “embezzlement”. It’s much easier to call someone a thief than it is to call them an embezzler. It likely has to do with the fact that “thief” is an easy, single syllable word. Whereas embezzler is a three syllable word. For whatever reason, when we speak, we tend towards simpler words. They are easier to communicate and to understand.

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:10:41am

re: #169 makeitstop

Seriously? Guess I gotta clear muh cache. :)

Cache has been giving me headaches for weeks now (work). I have to clear it far more these days than I ever had to in the past.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:12:29am

re: #169 makeitstop

Seriously? Guess I gotta clear muh cache. :)

Ah, there he is!

His page went down the other day in the middle of a long thread about soccer player Ronaldo’s sexuality. I figured he might have been taking heat for that from Barcelona fans.

Nice to know it was just Twitter being weird.

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wrenchwench  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:13:16am

At first. I thought there was a shark in the Rio Grande. It’s a stick.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:13:56am

re: #172 makeitstop

Ah, there he is!

His page went down the other day in the middle of a long thread about soccer player Ronaldo’s sexuality. I figured he might have been taking heat for that from Barcelona fans.

Nice to know it was just Twitter being weird.

Twitter can be weird sometimes. On my computer, if I switch between my main timeline and notifications too much, it loses a lot more recent tweets and I have to refresh the page for them to populate back on the timeline.

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Jay C  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:14:43am

re: #161 Citizen K

Nah, Chaffetz is far from the first to bring up this stupid meme: I’ve seen it cited all along from the start of Trump’s campaign: the notion - YUUUGELY prevalent among his cultists - that Donald Trump is so rich, that he is/will be/would be immune to “Washington corruption”. Which of course, they like to see - only - as “personally profiting financially from being in office”.

Never minding, of course, that NO ONE (probably not even Trump himself) is absolutely sure as to just how “rich” he is; how much in real assets he possesses, how “encumbered” those assets are, what he owes, and to who. Still less the “personally profiting financially from being in office” bit: Donald seems to simply outsourced that enterprise to his family: the hardcore Trumpistas still don;t seem to care.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:16:39am

re: #170 KGxvi

When you’re rich, it’s not “theft” it’s “embezzlement”. It’s much easier to call someone a thief than it is to call them an embezzler. It likely has to do with the fact that “thief” is an easy, single syllable word. Whereas embezzler is a three syllable word. For whatever reason, when we speak, we tend towards simpler words. They are easier to communicate and to understand.

But this is completely different, Chaffetz and others seem to be acting like a rich person could or would NEVER do something illicit or unethical for money because their wealth somehow makes everything they do ethical or good. Like…you know the Nixonism, “If the president does it, it’s not illegal”? It’s like that. “If a rich person profits off something, it’s can’t be wrong”.

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:17:48am

re: #176 Citizen K

It’s like that. “If a rich person profits off something, it’s can’t be wrong”.*

*Unless your name is Soros.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:18:23am

re: #176 Citizen K

But this is completely different, Chaffetz and others seem to be acting like a rich person could or would NEVER do something illicit or unethical for money because their wealth somehow makes everything they do ethical or good. Like…you know the Nixonism, “If the president does it, it’s not illegal”? It’s like that. “If a rich person profits off something, it’s can’t be wrong”.

If he was so ethical and incorruptible he wouldn’t have any problems with releasing all his tax returns and completely divesting from all his corporations. Oh, and not appointing immediate family members to positions of responsibility.

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:18:30am

re: #164 Citizen K

But seriously, it’s some weird fucking deification of the rich, ascribing some virtue that the rich could NEVER, EVER steal because why would they, they already get money! Like, the very ownership of vast amounts of money makes someone a saint. You know, not even getting into the idea that maybe the reason they have all that money is because they got it through illicit means…

It goes to motive. The idea most people have is that you don’t need to steal something that you already have a lot of (I don’t need to steal a loaf of bread because I have two at home). The problem with this line of thinking is that it ascribes only one possible motive to theft, particularly “need.” But history has shown us a million times (and its a favorite trope of storytelling) that the wealthy can and will commit illegal acts not because of “need” but because of “want.” In some cases, it’s an attempt to have a bigger bank account than the other guy - a means of keeping score. In others, it’s the idea of having something unique and only letting a select few enjoy it - so, I’m going to buy that Monet that might have been stolen by the Nazis and then sold on the black market, and keep it in my bathroom rather than give it to a museum.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:21:04am

re: #179 KGxvi

It goes to motive. The idea most people have is that you don’t need to steal something that you already have a lot of (I don’t need to steal a loaf of bread because I have two at home). The problem with this line of thinking is that it ascribes only one possible motive to theft, particularly “need.” But history has shown us a million times (and its a favorite trope of storytelling) that the wealthy can and will commit illegal acts not because of “need” but because of “want.” In some cases, it’s an attempt to have a bigger bank account than the other guy - a means of keeping score. In others, it’s the idea of having something unique and only letting a select few enjoy it - so, I’m going to buy that Monet that might have been stolen by the Nazis and then sold on the black market, and keep it in my bathroom rather than give it to a museum.

And it kind of loops around to the very idea that wealth imbues virtue. That someone stealing so they can subsist is inherently a more evil person than someone who steals because greed, simply because the latter has more already than the former.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:27:35am

Jim Wright astutely points out that someone besides Flynn is looking for immunity from prosecution.

Facebook Post

But hey, if you’re looking for immunity you must be guilty, right?

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:35:16am

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:36:23am

All right, this proves Tulsi Gabbard is a fatfucking op, spewing the same lies that Russian bots used against Clinton.

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MsJ  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:37:32am

re: #181 makeitstop

Jim Wright astutely points out that someone besides Flynn is looking for immunity from prosecution.

Specifically Trump believes he deserves to be immune from prosecution due to the weight of his presidential duties.

He believes that as president, he should be immune from a defamation lawsuit because as president he is simply too busy to deal with it.

Someone should ask Bill Clinton about that.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:38:04am

When I see things like this, it makes me wonder if these gun rights folks simply don’t understand the reason why folks might be a bit itchy at the sight of a whole lot of people with long guns marching around in step…

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:39:39am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Like…wow. Amazing non sequitur pivot there, Congresswoman…

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Mike Lamb  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:42:22am

re: #185 Citizen K

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When I see things like this, it makes me wonder if these gun rights folks simply don’t understand the reason why folks might be a bit itchy at the sight of a whole lot of people with long guns marching around in step…

Several of those folks sure don’t look like students…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:42:24am

re: #186 Citizen K

Like…wow. Amazing non sequitur pivot there, Congresswoman…

It’s typical Russian bot misdirection bullshit to accuse Democrats of that which Trump & GOP is actually guilty.

BUT HURR HURR WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:42:48am
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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:43:16am

re: #185 Citizen K

No, they DO understand that people are nervous around them, and that gives them wood.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:44:21am

Dear Jason Chaffetz,

If the rich are rich and don’t need to manipulate ways to be even richer, then what is up with all those tax breaks and trickling down policies by the GOP since St. Ronald Reagan that makes the rich richer???

I will not await a response.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:44:33am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:45:44am

re: #161 Citizen K

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John Carter  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:48:08am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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When your bio statement says “I AM NOT A Racist….etc” its like starting a conversation with “I am not a racist but….”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:49:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:49:30am

re: #194 John Carter

When your bio statement says “I AM NOT A Racist….etc” its like starting a conversation with “I am not a racist but….”

It was the Hillary/Soros graphic that did it for me.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:50:42am
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:51:45am
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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:52:09am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

All right, this proves Tulsi Gabbard is a fatfucking op, spewing the same lies that Russian bots used against Clinton.

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So, I went to her Twitter account and saw her header background.

Arms up with Bernie.

Uggh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:53:02am

“Can you cram every batshit crazy right wing conspiracy meme in a single picture?”
“Challenge accepted!”
WARNING: It’s a Ben Garrison illustration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:54:59am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Ugh…

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:56:08am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

It’s missing the Illuminati, Stone Masons, and Pizzagate.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:56:45am

re: #202 lawhawk

It’s missing the Illuminati, Stone Masons, and Pizzagate.

Octopus holding a slice is supposed to represent pizzagate I think.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:57:00am

re: #194 John Carter

When your bio statement says “I AM NOT A Racist….etc” its like starting a conversation with “I am not a racist but….”

I bet they have a Black, a Hispanic and a Muslim friend too.

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Interesting Times  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:57:10am

re: #199 ObserverArt

So, I went to her Twitter account and saw her header background.

Arms up with Bernie.

Uggh.

Just to clear up any potential confusion, that was NOT Tulsi Gabbard’s official twitter account (she has a blue checkmark):

Their bio doesn’t even claim an official association, just that they’re an “independent” group supporting her for president (so…a Russian trollbot for all we know).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:57:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:57:43am

re: #202 lawhawk

It’s missing the Illuminati, Stone Masons, and Pizzagate.

It’s in there, see if you can find the slice of pizza.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 31, 2017 • 9:59:40am

At this point, if Bernie had any self-respect or actual patriotism, he would realize that he is being used by Russia and it’s troll army to hurt America and step back out of public life. Accepting the attention and controversy is simply an ego-stroke at this point; it accomplishes nothing positive for America or the left.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:00:54am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beth Linas, PhD @bethlinas
“Vaccine skeptics, gather in D.C. to protest & to lobby” NO words #DefendScience cc @ASlavitt @bruce_y_lee statnews.com
11:39 AM - 31 Mar 2017

And we wonder why Clinton lost and the Orange Scourge is in office.

We’ve all discussed it before…we are heading for a new Dark Ages right here in the U.S.

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Jay C  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:01:13am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

I realize Ben Garrison is the hackiest hack in all of Hackville, but Google? WTF is his problem with them?

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BeachDem  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:01:33am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Nobody ever accused Chaffetz of being very bright…or perceptive…

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:03:35am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

“Can you cram every batshit crazy right wing conspiracy meme in a single picture?”
“Challenge accepted!”
WARNING: It’s a Ben Garrison illustration.

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Hahahaha. Look at his depiction of Trump. 30 years younger and 60 lbs lighter.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:03:41am

You think the Google is going to piss off someone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:03:46am

re: #210 Jay C

I realize Ben Garrison is the hackiest hack in all of Hackville, but Google? WTF is his problem with them?

Not putting white supremacist and nazi sites at the top of the search for “white genocide”

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I cannot.  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:04:04am

re: #210 Jay C

Because they started doing a thing about fake news, and since the right wing knows that their stuff will be “censored” by Google calling their stuff fake (because it is), therefore Google is part of the Deep State, the Swamp and…whatever else they’re calling it this week.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:04:40am

re: #205 Interesting Times

Just to clear up any potential confusion, that was NOT Tulsi Gabbard’s official twitter account (she has a blue checkmark):

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Their bio doesn’t even claim an official association, just that they’re an “independent” group supporting her for president (so…a Russian trollbot for all we know).

Ahhh. Thanks. My mistake.

But, that image still exists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:05:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:05:47am
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BeachDem  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:07:38am

re: #118 Skip Intro

Guess who’s going to be on Bill Maher’s show tonight? If that’s not enough to get you watching Frothy will be there too. No Coulter or Ingraham though.

Nope. Nope. And nope.

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William Lewis  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:07:47am

re: #214 I Would Prefer Not To

You think the Google is going to piss off someone?

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One can pray. So we can then laugh at them… ;)

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:08:22am

re: #210 Jay C

I realize Ben Garrison is the hackiest hack in all of Hackville, but Google? WTF is his problem with them?

They don’t filter out all that Trump hate and stuff about him being a crooked President. They should stand up and stand behind “our” President for the good of the country…AMEN!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:10:56am
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William Lewis  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:12:07am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll have the whiskey soup instead, rye please.

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Interesting Times  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:14:02am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dammit, that’s going to invalidate so many great jokes :(

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:16:25am

Nice take from Spin: The Internet’s Anonymous Nazis Have Realized They Played Themselves Now That Trump Plans to Kill Internet Privacy

During the presidential campaign, anonymous internet forums like Reddit, 4chan and 8chan, and the dingiest corners of Twitter emerged as major hubs for Trump supporters. “I’m fucking trembling out of excitement brahs,”one user of 4chan’s nihilistic right-wing politics board /pol/ proclaimed after Trump’s victory. “We actually elected a meme as president.”

The only thing chan trolls care about as much as ethics in gaming journalism and securing a future for white children is access to an internet that’s unfettered by snooping corporate interlopers. The entire identity of a Trump-loving 4chan poster is wrapped up in the anonymity of the internet, and the ability to do whatever you want online without consequences, whether it’s telling elaborate inside jokes on message boards or harassing liberal journalists on Twitter. The elimination of the FCC’s Obama-era privacy protections is a major blow to the idea of a free and open internet.

The trolls probably should have seen this coming when Trump selected the outspoken net neutrality opponent Ajit Pai as FCC commissioner, who voted against the privacy rules when he was a humble commission member. Still, they’ve spent the 12 hours since the news of the rollback broke in a state of apoplectic anxiety. The current top post on Reddit’s popular The_Donald board reads “Let’s discuss this ISP privacy bill.” All three of the top comments are Trump supporters who are against it. “I think there needs to be a new bill that introduces an all encompassing privacy protection,” a Redditor named StirlingG wrote. “I don’t like ISPs or websites selling my shit, and I don’t see any major positives to this.”

“Keep note: HUGE amounts of ‘former’ donald trump supporters shitposting,” a user named bloodfist45 observed, further down the post. “I believe they’ll only become former if Trump begins to vote on stuff like this,” another Redditor responded. “This bill is anti American. Data collection on massive levels is anti-american.”

Some responses were less measured. “I’m hopeful that Trump will veto the fuck out of this bill,” user 51Bootwearer wrote. (Just to reiterate: He’s not going to veto the bill.) “ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?” jdovejr echoed. “VETO THIS SHIT NOW.”

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:21:09am

re: #180 Citizen K

And it kind of loops around to the very idea that wealth imbues virtue. That someone stealing so they can subsist is inherently a more evil person than someone who steals because greed, simply because the latter has more already than the former.

While I’m sure that some of it is driven by the idea that wealth imbues virtue, I don’t think that’s it entirely. I think part of it is that people who aren’t wealthy try to think of how they would, hypothetically, act in such a situation. When you go from making 40k a year to making 4m a year, the idea that you’d steal an extra 300k seems ridiculous. But they don’t consider the social/economic pressures that play on those in the wealthiest parts of our society.

It’s akin to when fans complain about professional athletes holding out for more money (“I’d play for the league minimum!” “You’ve already made thirty million, why are you holding out for another five?”). The calculus changes when you go from the outside looking in to actually being in that situation.

Some people simply aren’t capable of understanding how/why someone who apparently has everything would be willing to act illegally for (relatively) just a little bit more.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:24:31am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

That looks like all the pictures of Ezra Cohen-Watnick I’ve seen so far.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:25:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:26:58am
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:27:48am

re: #226 makeitstop

None of the asshat GOPers who voted for the ISP data sale bill seem to realize the consequences of their own browsing data will now become visible for all to see.

As soon as Trump signs it into law, which is assured, watch for oppo-research groups begin searching out those folks and their browsing habits, website visits, and other data gleaned from the records that are now going to get sold.

It isn’t going to be pretty.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:27:52am

“…Agents from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation visited an office belonging to the operator of a casino on the remote U.S. island of Saipan that has attracted attention for its huge revenues”
……..
“…board members include James Woolsey, who ran the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency in the early 1990s and was among national-security advisers to Trump’s presidential campaign. Former FBI director Louis Freeh and Ed Rendell, a former Pennsylvania governor and Democratic National Committee chairman, sit on an advisory committee, as does Haley Barbour, the ex-Mississippi governor and Republican National Committee chairman who’s now a prominent lobbyist.”

Our little Saipan laundry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:28:14am

re: #185 Citizen K

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When I see things like this, it makes me wonder if these gun rights folks simply don’t understand the reason why folks might be a bit itchy at the sight of a whole lot of people with long guns marching around in step…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:30:02am
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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:30:31am

re: #231 lawhawk

None of the asshat GOPers who voted for the ISP data sale bill seem to realize the consequences of their own browsing data will now become visible for all to see.

As soon as Trump signs it into law, which is assured, watch for oppo-research groups begin searching out those folks and their browsing habits, website visits, and other data gleaned from the records that are now going to get sold.

It isn’t going to be pretty.

The guys who make Cards Against Humanity (good guys to begin with) have already pledged to buy up Congress’ browsing histories. That’ll be a glorious day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:30:40am

re: #225 Interesting Times

Dammit, that’s going to invalidate so many great jokes :(

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I guess we go to 50 Shades of Grey now?

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:31:50am
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:32:26am
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:32:34am
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:33:06am

re: #50 freetoken

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:35:27am

re: #239 lawhawk

I really do enjoy that account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:35:42am
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Jay C  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:36:54am

re: #50 freetoken

Christians of the first century out-thought, out-prayed, and outlived nonbelievers. They didn’t protest and hold boycotts.

But at the time, a lot of fat lions would have begged to differ…..

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Timothy Watson  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:38:03am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And there goes that last iota of respect I had for Rice.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:38:22am

re: #243 Jay C

But at the time, a lot of fat lions would have begged to differ…..

Then why was Paul in jail so often?

Edit: Not in reference to your comment, but the idea that Christians kept a low profile.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:39:05am

SHORT IMAGINED MONOLOGUES
VLADIMIR NABOKOV JOINS THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS

JAMIE CRICKS


It was love at first word, at last word, at ever and ever at each given word.

Spicer, light of the podium, heat of the briefing room. My fiery friend, my spin machine. Spi-cey: the slip of the tongue sliding a sigh of two sips up the palate to slide, at last, out the stretched open lips. Spi. Cey. He was Sean, plain Sean, at the podium, standing erect in his suit. He was Bro Spice when chumming with his buddies from Portsmouth Abbey. He was Loser to the President. He was Sean Michael Spicer on the dotted line. But in my eyes he was always Spicey. Spi. Cey. Did he have a precursor? He did, indeed he did. In point of fact, there might have been no Spicey to me at all had I not interviewed, one election, another press secretary, under the previous administration, surrounded by cherry blossoms and the Secret Service. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Russia is what the other journalists, the Times, WAPO, and other noble-handed questioners, focused on. But I could see only my simmering Spicey, surrounded by enemies, strong and swollen with his slander.

Oh. Spi. Cey. Just look at this tangle of wires and half-truths.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:39:16am

re: #240 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

Who

This guy thinks we know enough about lifespans during that time period to draw any kind of conclusion?

Frankly, he thinks Christians of the 1st Century outlived others? Longer than Romans? Longer than other groups? Longer than the Chinese? Baffling through BS is all these folks seem to do.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:40:19am

Diversion time…

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:41:31am
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Kragar  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:42:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:42:32am
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:43:15am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:44:46am
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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:46:06am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Weird. That NBC link goes to a page that appears to have lost its link to a (CSS) style sheet. Maybe it will compose better later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:48:16am

re: #254 ObserverArt

Weird. That NBC link goes to a page that appears to have lost it’s link to a (CSS) style sheet. Maybe it will compose better later.

Link takes me here: nbcnews.com

Obama administration officials were so concerned about what would happen to key classified documents related to the Russia probe once President Trump took office that they created a list of document serial numbers to give to senior members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, a former Obama official told NBC News.

The official said that after the list of documents related to the probe into Russian interference in the U.S. election was created in early January, he hand-carried it to the committee members. The numbers themselves were not classified, said the official.

The purpose, said the official, was to make it “harder to bury” the information, “to share it with those on the Hill who could lawfully see the documents,” and to make sure it could reside in an Intelligence committee safe, “not just at Langley [CIA hq].”

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:49:02am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:49:03am

good lord Spicey is trying so hard to spin the clusterfuck as a success.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:49:44am
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jaunte  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:51:23am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:55:17am

SPicey keeps saying “In the normal course of their work” so repeat the lie and it might come true.

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ObserverArt  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:56:07am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Link takes me here: nbcnews.com

Much betta!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:56:30am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:57:16am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Perhaps they are menstruating. ///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:57:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 10:59:58am
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:01:26am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

We will definitely look into whatever ties President Hillary Clinton has with the Russians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:02:52am

Liar Sean Spicer says Dr. Farkas “admitted” to leaking info on Trump associates, then reads statement that is not that.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:02:56am

I know Charles is a fan. So too is Quincy Jones:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:03:28am
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sagehen  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:15:58am

re: #138 makeitstop

One of these days Josh Marshall is going to win some major journalism awards. He’s been doing some major dot-connecting of late.

He already won a Polk for breaking the US Attorneys story that brought down Alberto Gonzales.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2017 • 11:37:47am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ah, so that’s what Hannity was on about the other night. I was coming out of a rehearsal on Wednesday night and the guy running the studio had Fox News on the TV. Hannity was blathering about ‘proof’ that Trump was wiretapped.

It figures it’s made its way to article of faith status, just two days later.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 31, 2017 • 12:30:22pm
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2017 • 1:19:30pm

re: #187 Mike Lamb

Several of those folks sure don’t look like students…

Possibly for some of them 6th grade was the worst 3 years of their lives.


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