The Bob Cesca Show, Featuring Yours Truly: The Hangover

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, features none other than my very own self joining Bob for the whole hour. Enjoy!

The Hangover: The great Charles Johnson from Little Green Footballs joins us for the hour; The links between Snowden and Russiagate; The Greenwald left questioning the validity of the Russia story; Carter Page confesses to communication with Russian spies; Susan Rice in the crosshairs again; Trump can’t stop praising Egypt’s dictator; Alex Jones rattles of an epic obscenity filled rant; Trump wants to dropp essential health benefits; and more.

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296 comments

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 2:54:36pm

I’m not sure I want to listen. In my mind’s ear, your posts sound like the narrator on “The Waltons”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:03:26pm

Dafuq?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:04:31pm
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KGxvi  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:06:58pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

it’s like they decided to stop aiming the rifle at their feet and instead raise the target about 32 inches

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:07:59pm

re: #4 KGxvi

it’s like they decided to stop aiming the rifle at their feet and instead raise the target about 32 inches

Hey, that’s MY inseam, too!

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:09:16pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

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Dafuq?

This explains it:

In other words, relegate millions of Americans to the equivalent of leper colonies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:09:41pm

Seriously, though - I read that Mulvaney’s response to the idea of ditching the EHB and letting the states define them was, in essence, if you don’t like the EHB in your state, move.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:10:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:10:22pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

That whole pre existing condition ban really pisses them off huh?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:10:50pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

This explains it:

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In other words, relegate millions of Americans to the equivalent of leper colonies.

Oh! High risk pools! The “Fuck You, losers!” approach to healthcare.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:12:14pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

That whole pre existing condition ban really pisses them off huh?

I think it’s a rejection of the most basic principles of insurance - which was a Capitalist, free-market invention - because they smack of redistribution!

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:13:48pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

That whole pre existing condition ban really pisses them off huh?

It’s the 30 pieces of silver of the GOP deal with the insurance companies: Get the lepers off the rolls and the “cheap” plans come back.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:16:09pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox should retire O’Reilly and replace him with that young up and comer, Lou Dobbs. He and O’Reilly measure the same on the asshole scale so who would even notice the switch other than the advertisers, who would return in droves.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:26:08pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I recall a slew of businesses pulling ads from Rush Limbaugh’s show after his Sandra Fluke hate meltdown. Hasn’t seemed to hurt him or his show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:26:30pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:31:26pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:35:42pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

I recall a slew of businesses pulling ads from Rush Limbaugh’s show after his Sandra Fluke hate meltdown. Hasn’t seemed to hurt him or his show.

Also, Breitbart is still spewing their garbage.

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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:39:31pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

The marks will be milked forever. Even if revenue goes down a little bit (say from loss of advertisers), one can just lower the advertising fee and get lower quality financial supporters.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:39:45pm

What the GOP is figuring out is that Obamacare basically raised the bar on what Americans expect from healthcare. No pre-existing conditions, no lifetime caps, insurance til you’re 26, essential health benefits, these are all things that Americans support. They also pretty much kill 99.9% of the “cheap” insurance plans that existed prior to Obamacare. And the longer and louder the GOP talks about getting rid of those things, the more popular that Obamacare ends up becoming. So it’s a negative feedback loop: The more they hype their proposal for “cheap” healthcare, the more popular the existing system becomes.

The only positive here is that the more effort they put into getting the votes of the Freedom Caucus, the more toxic they make the final product. And the more toxic it becomes, the less likely they’re to ever get it past the Senate.

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Nyet  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:40:03pm
“All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was Standard Operating Procedure with American investigators.”

Attributed to Judge Edward L. Van Roden.

Not so fast…

137 Crushed Lies, or Why Denial Is Beyond Repair

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:40:32pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:42:24pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the GOP finally sets its sights on a nation that actually has WMDs…but would be even more of a nightmare to occupy than Iraq ever was.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:43:05pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Jong Un to Trump: Come at me, bro!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:43:58pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

So the GOP finally sets its sights on a nation that actually has WMDs…but would be even more of a nightmare to occupy than Iraq ever was.

Funny how we all assumed Iran would be the next big one…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:48:26pm

somebody needs to call jared…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:52:26pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

So the GOP finally sets its sights on a nation that actually has WMDs…but would be even more of a nightmare to occupy than Iraq ever was.

And Trump treats ‘unpredictability’ as a positive trait in every situation, plus nobody knows who to call - Jared? Tillerson? McMaster? Nations often play games of high-stakes poker, but they do it with all adults at the table.

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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:52:40pm

As the world slips into darkness…

Japan Cabinet allows schools to study banned imperial order

Opposition politicians on Tuesday criticized a decision by Japan’s Cabinet to allow schools to study a 19th century imperial order on education that was banned after World War II for promoting militarism and emperor worship, saying it’s a sign that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s government is becoming more nationalistic.

[…]

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:53:16pm

The wingnuts don’t quite get that going to “war” with North Korea would be a godawful mess. There’s a reason we signed the damned armistice and it wasn’t because we were being nice on the North Koreans. China is sure as fuck not going to go for the idea of US troops occupying territory that borders theirs. And anybody who thinks that the reunification of Korea would be like that of Germany is fooling themselves. There is so much cultural drift that it would take generations to undo the damage of the Kims, not to mention the financial and economic chaos of getting the North to even a 1950s level of living. The humanitarian crisis would be godawful and would probably end up bankrupting the South. Hence why anybody young enough in Seoul to have read about the conflict in a textbook absolutely dreads the idea of reunification.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:53:31pm

re: #20 Nyet

Attributed to Judge Edward L. Van Roden.

Not so fast…

137 Crushed Lies, or Why Denial Is Beyond Repair

It would seem you do not support the systematic punching of Nazis in the nuts.

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Nyet  Apr 4, 2017 • 3:56:17pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

It would seem you do not support the systematic punching of Nazis in the nuts.

Not in peaceful times. ;)

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makeitstop  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:09:44pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

I recall a slew of businesses pulling ads from Rush Limbaugh’s show after his Sandra Fluke hate meltdown. Hasn’t seemed to hurt him or his show.

It’s hurt him quite a bit. His show is nowhere near the ratings powerhouse it was before Fluke.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:10:04pm

This is the problem with the whole dream of having a ‘Dealmaker’ as President:

First, he isn’t one, really.

Second, you cannot make ‘deals’ on complex policy issues if you don’t know the policy details, and don’t care about the policy details, and are totally incapable of learning the policy details.

Coming into a room and telling everyone “It’ll be great, believe me! Don’t worry about the details!” won’t cut it when the “Details” involve 24 Million losing insurance, and everyone’s premiums and deductible rising while Medicare runs out of money sooner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:10:32pm

re: #31 makeitstop

It’s hurt him quite a bit. His show is nowhere near the ratings powerhouse it was before Fluke.

and a shitload of stations dropped him

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:13:29pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

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This is the problem with the whole dream of having a ‘Dealmaker’ as President:

First, he isn’t one, really.

Second, you cannot make ‘deals’ on complex policy issues if you don’t know the policy details, and don’t care about the policy details, and are totally incapable of learning the policy details.

Coming into a room and telling everyone “It’ll be great, believe me! Don’t worry about the details!” won’t cut it when the “Details” involve 24 Million losing insurance, and everyone’s premiums and deductible rising while Medicare runs out of money sooner.

That’s because Trump isn’t a dealmaker, he’s a deal signer. He has his underlings spend time hammering out the deals, with an army of lawyers going over the fine details, before he ever puts pen to paper. Plus he’s used to “bargaining” from the stronger position, using his power to force the other side to accept his terms. He doesn’t quite get that at best he’s equal to the Republican leadership in these negotiations and at worst he’s in a shitty bargaining position because they’re the ones who actually have to make the deal happen.

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:13:30pm

re: #31 makeitstop

It’s hurt him quite a bit. His show is nowhere near the ratings powerhouse it was before Fluke.

He was protected by a big contract that had some years on it to, was he not?

It’s the radio network that took the hit. Rush got paid.

I doubt that contract is redone, maybe ever.

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makeitstop  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:13:46pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

and a shitload of stations dropped him

That’s right. Where he used to be on the major stations in a lot of markets, he’s now on lower-wattage stations that generate a lot less money.

His syndication company is on the verge of bankruptcy. Boycotts work.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:15:09pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

He was protected by a big contract that had some years on it to, was he not?

It’s the radio network that took the hit. Rush got paid.

I doubt that contract is redone, maybe ever.

He had to sign a new contract last year, and unlike when he signed his pre-Fluke contract where he boasted about how much he was making, this time around he kept totally mum about the details. Odds are he took a pay cut just to remain on the air, as this is effectively wingnut welfare for him at this point. He’s not marketable in any way without his radio show, having rendered himself so toxic than even FNC wouldn’t touch him now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:15:54pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Rage Furby still likes him, though…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:19:24pm

well…I have this to look forward to tomorrow (highs in the 70s), and then it snows on Thursday night…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:20:30pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

That’s because Trump isn’t a dealmaker, he’s a deal signer. He has his underlings spend time hammering out the deals, with an army of lawyers going over the fine details, before he ever puts pen to paper. Plus he’s used to “bargaining” from the stronger position, using his power to force the other side to accept his terms. He doesn’t quite get that at best he’s equal to the Republican leadership in these negotiations and at worst he’s in a shitty bargaining position because they’re the ones who actually have to make the deal happen.

He’s also used to signing contracts he has no intention of honoring. That’s a lot harder to do with legislation.

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:22:01pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

So the GOP finally sets its sights on a nation that actually has WMDs…but would be even more of a nightmare to occupy than Iraq ever was.

But we wouldn’t have to occupy them; Trump would just declare that it’s South Korea and China’s problem now.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:25:30pm

So we’re now fast approaching the end of Trump’s first 100 days and the results seem to be pretty clear: The man cannot govern worth a damn. And even his one avenue of doing anything worthwhile (signing executive orders) has resulted in rebuffs from the courts. Plus, unless Ryan and Yertle can get their heads out of their asses, we’ll probably end the 100 days heading into a government shutdown.

In his first 100 days, Obama had begun the slow process of recovering from the Great Recession and getting America back from the brink. So far, it looks like Trump’s first 100 days will see him improve his golf handicap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:26:30pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:28:33pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

So we’re now fast approaching the end of Trump’s first 100 days and the results seem to be pretty clear: The man cannot govern worth a damn. And even his one avenue of doing anything worthwhile (signing executive orders) has resulted in rebuffs from the courts. Plus, unless Ryan and Yertle can get their heads out of their asses, we’ll probably end the 100 days heading into a government shutdown.

In his first 100 days, Obama had begun the slow process of recovering from the Great Recession and getting America back from the brink. So far, it looks like Trump’s first 100 days will see him improve his golf handicap.

We could fuck that up for him. Start a whispering campaign that his aides are saying he’s unable to focus on his game, and his scores are going up. He’ll start obsessing on it and pretty soon won’t be able to sink a 3 foot putt without getting the yips.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:29:13pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:29:24pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

It’s not just going to war that will be a mess.

The picture gets worse when you consider the likelihood of resistance and other desperate acts, since these are people that have been indoctrinated to believe that they’ll be tortured, raped, and murdered by US and Japanese forces. And while South Korea is open to “reunifying” the undeveloped North would end up carved up by a market economy.

And that’s if China let it go down.

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:30:49pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

well…I have this to look forward to tomorrow (highs in the 70s), and then it snows on Thursday night…

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Damn weather!!!

Supposed to be bumpy here in central Ohio tomorrow too, but I understand we are on the northern edge of the storm track and may get away with next to nothing. Who the hell knows.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:32:29pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:35:30pm

re: #46 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

It’s not just going to war that will be a mess.

The picture gets worse when you consider the likelihood of resistance and other desperate acts, since these are people that have been indoctrinated to believe that they’ll be tortured, raped, and murdered by US and Japanese forces. And while South Korea is open to “reunifying” the undeveloped North would end up carved up by a market economy.

And that’s if China let it go down.

True, I should also have noted that while China dreads the idea of a reunified Korea that would mean US forces sitting on its own border, its greater fear is the resulting exodus of scared North Koreans flooding into its own northern provinces to flee the invasion. This isn’t West/East Germany where both sides have a general animosity but a strong desire to reunify, it’s North/South Vietnam where the North views the South as under the sway of imperialist forces and fear “liberation.”

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stpaulbear  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:38:46pm

I liked Charles’ speaking voice on the podcast. Bob has his bombastic shock-jock thing, and Charles sounded all NPR - in a good way. Good show.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:39:47pm

Speaking of Rage Furby - looks like he’s been suspended from Facebook AGAIN. No posts from him since March 24.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

I shouldn’t have done it but I read the article about James Dobson inciting straight cis men to barge into women’s restrooms to assassinate trans women. It’s even stupider than you can imagine:

“If you are a married man with any gumption, surely you will defend your wife’s privacy and security in restroom facilities,” [By barging into the women’s room!VB]

Dobson writes in a column published this week on the far-right site WND. He imagines such scenarios as “a strange-looking man, dressed like a woman [this is their fantasy, that every trans woman is a hairy bearded guy in a dressVB]

… peering over toilet cubicles to watch your wife in a private moment [This would be weird even if another woman did it, which of course no one doesVB]”

and “men who walk in unannounced, unzip their pants and urinate in front of [little girls].”[Obviously this person has never seen the inside of a women’s bathroomVB]

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:42:26pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s starting to look like a goldfish.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:42:58pm

Trump/Putin reminds me more and more of the Molotov/Ribbentrop Pact of 1939. It is strictly a marriage of convenience between treacherous cutthroats: Trump gets Putin’s help to gain power, Putin gets weak and incompetent leadership in the United States, as well as the opportunity to fill the US government with his own stooges and spies. It could well end up like Molotov/Ribbentrop, too, if Trump decides to “get tough” with the Russians in effort to cover up his own complicity with them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:43:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:44:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:44:29pm
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makeitstop  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:46:05pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

She’s starting to look like a goldfish.

I honestly don’t think the’s really that good looking.

Like all the other Trump kids, there are moments when her resemblance to the old yam shows, and there’s no amount of stylists or designer clothes that can make that go away.

And her soul is just fucking ugly.

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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:47:46pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t particularly like the way the article at Climate Central is written, but yes, Nature Communications did publish a paper on future climate forcing:

Future climate forcing potentially without precedent in the last 420 million years

The evolution of Earth’s climate on geological timescales is largely driven by variations in the magnitude of total solar irradiance (TSI) and changes in the greenhouse gas content of the atmosphere. Here we show that the slow ∼50 Wm−2 increase in TSI over the last ∼420 million years (an increase of ∼9 Wm−2 of radiative forcing) was almost completely negated by a long-term decline in atmospheric CO2. This was likely due to the silicate weathering-negative feedback and the expansion of land plants that together ensured Earth’s long-term habitability. Humanity’s fossil-fuel use, if unabated, risks taking us, by the middle of the twenty-first century, to values of CO2 not seen since the early Eocene (50 million years ago). If CO2 continues to rise further into the twenty-third century, then the associated large increase in radiative forcing, and how the Earth system would respond, would likely be without geological precedent in the last half a billion years.

In other words, we’re screwing up big time.

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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:51:09pm

I don’t think we have to worry about increasing our own fossil fuel use, because of resource limitations driving extraction and production costs.

By the end of the century our fossil fuel use will be down, not because of prophylactic concern over climate change, but because the remaining hydrocarbons will be too expensive compared to alternatives.

So trying to extrapolate emissions into the 23rd century is a bit of folly.

Nevertheless, by the end of this century, the change we will have precipitated will be significant enough to upend global society.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:51:11pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

She’s starting to look like a goldfish.

She is Dorian Grey, and Kellyanne Conway is the Portrait.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:51:31pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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As was brought up over at Balloon-Juice yesterday, is this something Cohen-Watnick came up on his own or something he was ordered to look into by someone higher up the food chain? That should be a burning question among the media right now.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:54:05pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Being an Obama appointee while black and female is a serious crime.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:54:34pm
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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:57:32pm

Nature Communications also published, last week, though it did much attention, this:

A tipping point in refreezing accelerates mass loss of Greenland’s glaciers and ice caps

Melting of the Greenland ice sheet (GrIS) and its peripheral glaciers and ice caps (GICs) contributes about 43% to contemporary sea level rise. While patterns of GrIS mass loss are well studied, the spatial and temporal evolution of GICs mass loss and the acting processes have remained unclear. Here we use a novel, 1 km surface mass balance product, evaluated against in situ and remote sensing data, to identify 1997 (±5 years) as a tipping point for GICs mass balance. That year marks the onset of a rapid deterioration in the capacity of the GICs firn to refreeze meltwater. Consequently, GICs runoff increases 65% faster than meltwater production, tripling the post-1997 mass loss to 36±16 Gt−1, or ∼14% of the Greenland total. In sharp contrast, the extensive inland firn of the GrIS retains most of its refreezing capacity for now, buffering 22% of the increased meltwater production. This underlines the very different response of the GICs and GrIS to atmospheric warming.

In other words, we’re long past the point where we’ve doomed the Greenland peripheral ice.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 4:59:05pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

She is Dorian Grey, and Kellyanne Conway is the Portrait.

Had Kellyanne joined the other failed Trump mouthpieces like Katrina Pierson in limboland? I sure hope so.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:00:00pm

Jesus.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:02:16pm

re: #62 Targetpractice

As was brought up over at Balloon-Juice yesterday, is this something Cohen-Watnick came up on his own or something he was ordered to look into by someone higher up the food chain? That should be a burning question among the media right now.

Remember that the whole Trump Administration is made up of idiots who all think they’re The Smartest Kid In The Class, and who all believe in conspiracy theories. No doubt they’re JUST SURE that the whole IC is riddled with Obama spies, and they couldn’t trust ANYTHING the IC said.

If I had to bet, I’d bet Trump ordered Bannon to order it. Verbally, not in writing. Pausible deniability, you know.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:02:31pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Jesus.

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Christ Al-fucking-mighty, they’re not even going to bother with the whole prolonged bullshit session, they’re just going to rush to war. What’s the goal, Don? Besides the hope that you can get Russia off the front page for a few days?

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:03:19pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Not the clearest statement by a Sec of State I’ve ever read. Good corporatespeak though, since it says nothing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:05:19pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember that the whole Trump Administration is made up of idiots who all think they’re The Smartest Kid In The Class, and who all believe in conspiracy theories. No doubt they’re JUST SURE that the whole IC is riddled with Obama spies, and they couldn’t trust ANYTHING the IC said.

If I had to bet, I’d bet Trump ordered Bannon to order it. Verbally, not in writing. Pausible deniability, you know.

I’d suspect the order was probably started with Bannon himself, as a way of looking for something to support Trump’s ranting after it had already happened. Problem is that investigations like that take time and so the pressure to shit or get off the pot meant that by the time Cohen-Watnick hit pay dirt, the narrative had already shifted to one where the White House expected Congress to find the “leakers.”

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:05:31pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

I read it as saying “we’re a bunch of amateurs who have no idea what to do about this.”

Coming next: “It’s Obama’s fault”. Hannity exclusive.

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stpaulbear  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:05:58pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Jesus.

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He’s more emo than Trump. Why doesn’t he just fucking quit if he hates the job so much? It’s so weird.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:06:35pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:06:52pm

re: #73 stpaulbear

He’s more emo than Trump. Why doesn’t he just fucking quit if he hates the job so much? It’s so weird.

He’s waiting for his wife to tell him God says to quit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:07:00pm

junior managed to bypass the elk tag lottery…I. Am.Shocked….Not…

Trump was able to procure a hunting tag quickly thanks to the unique relationship the department has with certain private landowners, Marraccini said. There are about 40 of these landowner-cooperator tags in Kentucky.

“Say you’re a big coal company or a big power company and you own 40,000 acres of land. The department has entered into an agreement with some of those landowners that for every 5,000 acres that they will deed over to us to be used for public recreation year round, we would let them have one elk tag, and they can use that tag anyway they want,” Marraccini said.

For the rest of the public, obtaining a hunting tag takes luck.

In 2016, there were about 75,000 applications for elk hunting licenses in Kentucky put into a lottery. Nine hundred ten licenses were granted. The license drawing is random, Marraccini said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:07:08pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

I’d suspect the order was probably started with Bannon himself, as a way of looking for something to support Trump’s ranting after it had already happened. Problem is that investigations like that take time and so the pressure to shit or get off the pot meant that by the time Cohen-Watnick hit pay dirt, the narrative had already shifted to one where the White House expected Congress to find the “leakers.”

Speaking of ‘leakers’, seems odd that the WH in the form of Don Jr. and Kellyanne would be praising the execrable Cernovich for publishing something he could only have gotten from leaks.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:07:13pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Christ Al-fucking-mighty, they’re not even going to bother with the whole prolonged bullshit session, they’re just going to rush to war. What’s the goal, Don? Besides the hope that you can get Russia off the front page for a few days?

“I could stand in the middle of Osan airbase and shoot 100,000 people and I wouldn’t lose voters”

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:07:24pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:07:58pm

re: #72 Skip Intro

I read it as saying “we’re a bunch of amateurs who have no idea what to do about this.”

Coming next: “It’s Obama’s fault”. Hannity exclusive.

It is actually Bush’s fault. He dropped the ball on NK badly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:09:30pm

re: #79 gocart mozart

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YOu move the goalposts to the 50 yard line. That way you can easily kick and FG from deep in your own territory, which is where Trump et al. are.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:09:59pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Canned hunt with corn fed salt lick elk. Really hard. Putz.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:10:23pm

re: #80 stpaulbear

It is actually Bush’s fault. He dropped the ball on NK badly.

Another ‘Get Tough’ idiot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:11:25pm

He is a billionaire who made his fortune in real estate. He has been called a narcissist. He posts to Twitter — incessantly — about politics and his battles against the media. Lately, he has been spending time at a Florida resort named Mar-a-Lago.

His name?

Guo Wengui.

Mr. Guo is a Chinese property magnate who has been living outside the country for more than two years. In recent weeks, he has launched a broadside — in television interviews and on Twitter — criticizing the effectiveness of the Communist Party’s fight against corruption, all from the safety of financial capitals like London and New York. He is also a member at President Trump’s resort in Palm Beach, and posted photos of himself on the grounds last month with Mar-a-Lago’s managing director.

Mr. Guo’s newly public persona — more akin to a dissident Russian oligarch and highly unusual in Chinese politics — comes at an awkward time, just before China’s president, Xi Jinping, and Mr. Trump are to meet at the resort for their first summit meeting. The Chinese billionaire’s ties to the club are a new twist in how President Trump’s business interests can complicate diplomacy, in this case with arguably the world’s most important bilateral relationship.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:14:30pm

re: #82 nines09

Canned hunt with corn fed salt lick elk. Really hard. Putz.

F’reals? Because on the Bowsite we used to consider that to totally remove any trophy value.*

*Not big on ‘Trophy Only’ hunting, myself, but 1) bull elk are fucking astonishing trophies and 2) elk is really good eating. Get hunters together, and they’ll say, “Yeah, venision’s good. But elk, man. Elk is SO GOOD!”

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:16:59pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, I’ve got a wild ass idea. How about Trump starts meeting these people at the REAL White House instead of at his fucking private club?

Problem solved, except for the asshole pretending to be president.

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makeitstop  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:18:43pm

re: #86 Skip Intro

Hey, I’ve got a wild ass idea. How about Trump starts meeting these people at the REAL White House instead of at his fucking private club?

Russian listening devices don’t have that kind of range.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:18:56pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

F’reals? Because on the Bowsite we used to consider that to totally remove any trophy value.*

*Not big on ‘Trophy Only’ hunting, myself, but 1) bull elk are fucking astonishing trophies and 2) elk is really good eating. Get hunters together, and they’ll say, “Yeah, venision’s good. But elk, man. Elk is SO GOOD!”

Martin County is a HUGE coal mining county. I’ll just let everyone speculate which mine company owner is the biggest landowner there (it’s an easy guess) and how much actual rules apply there.

Oh, and it is also the site of a HUGE coal slurry spill in 2000 and the water is still contaminated there.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:19:21pm

Douchebag does man on the street interviews.

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freetoken  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:19:54pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also what the Trump marks avoid discussing is that the reason Trump meets people at his palatial grounds in FL is that he thinks the WH is beneath him, in (physical) appointments. That is why he talked about ballrooms during the primary season. And that is why his current wife stays in their NYC tower.

Yet the marks somehow think Trump is their man, the friend of the common man.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:20:49pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

This is all my fault. I should have thought it through before I posted this the other day.

Oh well, the damage is done. Time for the professionals to make things better again.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:21:38pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

Douchebag does man on the street interviews.

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Gee I wonder why.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:22:58pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

That’s just sad.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:23:45pm

Everything I’ve read from Marshall about Trump’s psyche turns out to be true, and alarmingly, has high predictive value.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:24:19pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:25:10pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

She is Dorian Grey, and Kellyanne Conway is the Portrait.

You again, win the day…….

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:32:53pm

That’s right, it happened 49 years ago today.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:34:11pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

I’m ashamed to admit I only knew this because I heard it on the radio coming home.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:35:11pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

That’s right, it happened 49 years ago today.

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Indeed. I was 11 years old. I remember thinking, “Oh, shit.”

Growing up then, it felt like anyone prominent, and good got killed for it.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:39:20pm

Bill O’Reilly: “the advertisers roll in, the advertisers roll out….”

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:40:40pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:41:12pm

re: #98 thedopefishlives

I forgot until I saw that tweet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:42:26pm

Most aggravating thing about blaming Obama for Syria?

Not one person had a better idea. Obama gets blamed for not doing enough, or doing to much, or not doing the right thing - which is SOMEWHAT fair, because if there had been a right thing to do, it would have been his responsibility to do it. But NOBODY ever articulated the ‘right thing to do’ about Syria.

“Yeah, Obama fucked that up.”

So, what should he have done.

“Geez, do I look like a foreign policy expert?” say the Foreign Policy Experts.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:42:55pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:43:03pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

I forgot until I saw that tweet.

There are some moments in history where everyone alive remembers exactly where they were and what they were doing - JFK, 9/11, Apollo 11, etc. It’s somewhat saddening to me that MLK Jr. is not among those moments for many people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:43:20pm

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

Bill O’Reilly: “the advertisers roll in, the advertisers roll out….”

Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:43:48pm

A lie and a dogwhistle: Trump says “nobody ever saw anything being built” with Obama Recovery Act funds, ” they used it on social programs.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:43:52pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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Relax, Charles. It’s mostly Middle America - you know, the people that shit on decency and logic to vote him into power in the first place. You guys out on the left coast are mostly insulated from his bile and destruction.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:43:57pm

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

Bill O’Reilly: “the advertisers roll in, the advertisers roll out….”

Bill should be lucky he wasn’t fired when his first sexual harassment bit came up or when he abused his wife but he gets to lecture Colin Kaepernick for not standing for the national anthem.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:44:23pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Most aggravating thing about blaming Obama for Syria?

Not one person had a better idea. Obama gets blamed for not doing enough, or doing to much, or not doing the right thing - which is SOMEWHAT fair, because if there had been a right thing to do, it would have been his responsibility to do it. But NOBODY ever articulated the ‘right thing to do’ about Syria.

“Yeah, Obama fucked that up.”

So, what should he have done.

“Geez, do I look like a foreign policy expert?” say the Foreign Policy Experts.

Exactly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:47:06pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The lie gets even worse when you remember that they blew half of it on tax cuts in a vain attempt to get Republican support (Which McConnell nixed at the Inauguration Day meeting of the GOP leadership). So, yeah, there was A LOT of infrastructure spending, but there would have been more, and the stimulus would have worked better, if they hadn’t tried to be bipartisan about it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:48:16pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Most aggravating thing about blaming Obama for Syria?

Not one person had a better idea. Obama gets blamed for not doing enough, or doing to much, or not doing the right thing - which is SOMEWHAT fair, because if there had been a right thing to do, it would have been his responsibility to do it. But NOBODY ever articulated the ‘right thing to do’ about Syria.

“Yeah, Obama fucked that up.”

So, what should he have done.

“Geez, do I look like a foreign policy expert?” say the Foreign Policy Experts.

“Obama should have done this and that to make things better!”
“So what if I say the same about Trump?”
“That’s not fair!”
“Why not?”
“Well, Trump knows more as president than you do, so criticizing him is wrong because you don’t see the same picture he does.”

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:48:44pm

re: #105 thedopefishlives

There are some moments in history where everyone alive remembers exactly where they were and what they were doing - JFK, 9/11, Apollo 11, etc. It’s somewhat saddening to me that MLK Jr. is not among those moments for many people.

3 to 11 shift, Refrigerator Line 1, GE Appliance Park, Louisville KY.

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MsJ  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:48:54pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

A lie and a dogwhistle: Trump says “nobody ever saw anything being built” with Obama Recovery Act funds, ” they used it on social programs.”

Except in Michigan where they had giant signs on the side of the road starting the road construction was because of the ARRA. Like tons and tons of very large road signage.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:49:07pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lies and more damn lies, the story of Trump his entire miserable life.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:49:33pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

3 to 11 shift, Refrigerator Line 1, GE Appliance Park, Louisville KY.

I wasn’t even conceived yet - hell, my parents hadn’t even hooked up yet. Considering my dad was 10 at the time…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:50:50pm

re: #105 thedopefishlives

There are some moments in history where everyone alive remembers exactly where they were and what they were doing - JFK, 9/11, Apollo 11, etc. It’s somewhat saddening to me that MLK Jr. is not among those moments for many people.

Which is weird. It was a watershed moment.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:52:20pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

Which is weird. It was a watershed moment.

Exactly my point. It seems like one of those moments that everyone should remember. But if you ask a lot of people, 4/4/1968 won’t ring any bells. To be fair, the 1960’s were full of watershed moments, and a lot of people have a limited capacity for memory.

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:53:55pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:54:32pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

Being a bit of a cynic I will give it a few more years and very few people will remember December 7th 1941.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:55:09pm

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

Being a bit of a cynic I will give it a few more years and very few people will remember December 7th 1941.

Fair enough. After all, who among us can “remember, remember, the 5th of November”?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:55:44pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

[applause]

There’s never been an accounting for the FBI’s disgusting and illegal harassment of MLK.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:56:09pm

WTF is going on???

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:56:32pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

[applause]

There’s never been an accounting for the FBI’s disgusting and illegal harassment of MLK.

Too busy ratfucking HRC.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:57:15pm

re: #121 thedopefishlives

You got me on that one. Which one?
en.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:57:41pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

WTF is going on???

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Pepsi is trying to capitalize on the anti-Trump movement with an ultra-crass and tone-deaf ad campaign.

Ain’t capitalism grand?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:58:01pm

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

You got me on that one. Which one?
en.wikipedia.org

The Gunpowder Plot!

Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
Gunpowder, treason, and plot.
I see no reason,
why Gunpowder Treason,
should ever be forgot.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:58:17pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

I don’t see any police in the last frames. Where’s they go?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:58:57pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

Exactly my point. It seems like one of those moments that everyone should remember. But if you ask a lot of people, 4/4/1968 won’t ring any bells. To be fair, the 1960’s were full of watershed moments, and a lot of people have a limited capacity for memory.

First HUMAN in space
First American in space.
Cuban Missile Crisis
First American to orbit the Earth
March on Washington/I Have A Dream
Kennedy Assassination
VRA and CRA pass
Malcolm X assassination
Apollo 1 fire
Tet Offensive
LBJ drops out of Primary race
MLK assassination
RFK assassination
Fucking Nixon elected
Man walks on the fucking MOON!

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:59:15pm

I’d like to buy the world a new ad concept.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:59:39pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

WTF is going on???

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I can’t stop laughing. It’s that horror laughter.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:59:48pm

re: #129 Blind Frog Belly White

First HUMAN in space
First American in space.
Cuban Missile Crisis
First American to orbit the Earth
March on Washington/I Have A Dream
Kennedy Assassination
VRA and CRA pass
Apollo 1 fire
Tet Offensive
LBJ drops out of Primary race
MLK assassination
JFK assassination
Fucking Nixon elected
Man walks on the fucking MOON!

Kent State.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 5:59:50pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:00:43pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Pepsi is trying to capitalize on the anti-Trump movement with an ultra-crass and tone-deaf ad campaign.

Ain’t capitalism grand?

Built on the image of that young black woman that was so striking as she confronted the cops in her flowing dress.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:01:04pm
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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:01:05pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Chicago Police Riots, 1968.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:01:10pm

re: #130 jaunte

I’d like to buy the world a new ad concept.

Don Draper, now 98 years old, looks up from his Canadian Club, and whispers, “That was MY IDEA!”

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:02:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:02:42pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Kent State.

That was in the seventies.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:02:45pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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Like with Iran, unless this administration is planning for invasion and occupation, then any attack it commits is only going to further inflame the situation.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:03:44pm

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

That was in the seventies.

Ehhh, close enough for government work.

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:04:07pm

re: #130 jaunte

I’d like to buy the world a new ad concept.

That would be a real thing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:04:07pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Kent State.

Kent State was 1970. To my youthful mind (12 years old) it felt like the 60s ended then.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:04:32pm

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

That was in the seventies.

1970. Same assembly line—wore a “student target” t-shirt.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:04:56pm

I hate to say it, but David Frum’s twitter timeline is killing me.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:05:44pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Kent State was 1970. To my youthful mind (12 years old) it felt like the 60s ended then.

Manson pretty much killed it off a few months earlier.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:06:03pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

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And that’s why I’m mixing my Pepsi with whiskey tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:06:10pm
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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:06:16pm

I’d like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I’d like to buy the world a Coke
And keep it company

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:06:17pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Kent State was 1970. To my youthful mind (12 years old) it felt like the 60s ended then.

To my 6 yo mind it was the brave new world of space sticks and Tang.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:06:55pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

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Duh.

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:07:17pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:08:06pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Not even a good copy of Don Draper’s Coke commercial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:08:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:09:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:09:52pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Manson pretty much killed it off a few months earlier.

I think it was the much less lurid press coverage of the era, but that made less of an impact on me than Kent State. Probably because my family are pacifists and protested the war (to the extent one could, where we lived), so I felt like THEY were shooting US, which was in fact what I thought at the time.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:10:00pm

re: #105 thedopefishlives

There are some moments in history where everyone alive remembers exactly where they were and what they were doing - JFK, 9/11, Apollo 11, etc. It’s somewhat saddening to me that MLK Jr. is not among those moments for many people.

I was three years old in Maryland, I was a homeless vet then living in Ocala, I was nine and watched it on my family’s black-and-white television in Michigan. When MLK was shot I was seven living in Michigan, it was three days after my father was killed in Vietnam. I didn’t really know much about MLK then and I was kind of wrapped up in my family issues at the time.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:11:07pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #155 Charles Johnson

So the gift of an Oxford English Dictionary would not be accepted? Pity.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:11:19pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Maybe she meant “competent”.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:13:04pm

Terra Incognita

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:13:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:14:29pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

The hell? Being complicit is like the exact opposite of change!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:17:04pm
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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:17:56pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:18:14pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

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There are two Republican clubs in that photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:19:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:20:18pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:20:47pm

re: #164 jaunte

To bad Mein Kampf was already taken.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:20:48pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is good news.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:21:43pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

I’m glad to see it’s getting wide circulation; I wish everyone in the country had read it before the election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:22:21pm

:D

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:23:00pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…The complex jailed 1,700 inmates at its peak, but in recent years only 700 to 800 people were housed there. Penzone said the closure will produce $4.5 million in savings annually. He said prisoners will not be set free as a result of his decision and instead will do their time in the county’s other jails, which have enough room for them….”

Hmmm… That amount of extra money might have been useful when Apraio was Sheriff, to fund all of the lawsuit settlements…

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:23:26pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump U?

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

Just saw on Rachel Senator Jeff Merkley (Oregon) is on the Senate floor opposing Gorsuch and he will be taking the whole overnight shift. He’s three hours in.

Thank you Senator.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:24:37pm

From wiki, a witness statement on the Kent State shootings and the end of an era:

Gerald Casale, the future bassist/singer of Devo, was also witness to the shootings. He recalled what he saw while speaking to the Vermont Review in 2005:

All I can tell you is that it completely and utterly changed my life. I was a white hippie boy and then I saw exit wounds from M1 rifles out of the backs of two people I knew. Two of the four people who were killed, Jeffrey Miller and Allison Krause, were my friends.

We were all running our asses off from these motherfuckers. It was total, utter bullshit. Live ammunition and gasmasks - none of us knew, none of us could have imagined… They shot into a crowd that was running away from them!

I stopped being a hippie and I started to develop the idea of devolution. I got real, real pissed off.

Chrissie Hynde was another quoted student-witness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:25:48pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

Just saw on Rachel Senator Jeff Merkley (Oregon) is on the Senate floor opposing Gorsuch and he will be taking the whole overnight shift. He’s three hours in.

Thank you Senator.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:30:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:31:00pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One can only hope.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:31:21pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:31:39pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Pepsi is trying to capitalize on the anti-Trump movement with an ultra-crass and tone-deaf ad campaign.

Ain’t capitalism grand?

I gave up soft drinks in 1999 and I have not had a Coke or a Pepsi or any other sugary beverage in this century.

My favorite beverage is Perrier but I think the La Croix sparkling water is also very good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:32:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:33:11pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Kent State.

That was the ‘70’s.

Manson murders.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:33:37pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A good reminder when someone says Portman is a “moderate” and “reasonable.” Fuck off Rob, oh and you’re only pro gay marriage ebcause of your son too, so you’re a weasel for other reasons too.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:34:30pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I suspect the breaking point will be some military adventurism that Trump engages in in an effort to wag the dog that erupts into a major armed conflict that we are neither prepared for or can hope to win.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:36:25pm

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

I gave up soft drinks in 1999 and I have not had a Coke or a Pepsi or any other sugary beverage in this century.

My favorite beverage is Perrier but I think the La Croix sparkling water is also very good.

Not even a Tab?

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:36:52pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Daddy Putin would not like Trump taking any action against Assad.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:37:28pm

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

Papa Bear is in a bit of a pickle these days….

Erik Wemple: Bill O’Reilly, a man without a counterattack

Now O’Reilly is really in trouble. He’s under scrutiny not for stuff he’s said on air, but for stuff he did off air. A Saturday New York Times article detailed how O’Reilly and Fox News paid out $13 million in settlements to five former staffers who had suffered alleged sexual harassment or just plain abuse from the host. There’s a former on-air personality (Juliet Huddy); a former junior producer (Rachel Witlieb Bernstein); a former anchor (Laurie Dhue); a former “O’Reilly Factor” producer (Andrea Mackris); and a former Fox Business host (Rebecca Gomez Diamond). In response to these complaints, O’Reilly came up with the implausible explanation that the settlements were a means of protecting his family.

Just like other prominent and controversial people, I’m vulnerable to lawsuits from individuals who want me to pay them to avoid negative publicity. In my more than 20 years at Fox News Channel, no one has ever filed a complaint about me with the Human Resources Department, even on the anonymous hotline.

But most importantly, I’m a father who cares deeply for my children and who would do anything to avoid hurting them in any way. And so I have put to rest any controversies to spare my children.

The worst part of my job is being a target for those who would harm me and my employer, the Fox News Channel. Those of us in the arena are constantly at risk, as are our families and children. My primary efforts will continue to be to put forth an honest TV program and to protect those close to me.

As we pointed out in a previous post, other cable news titans are also “in the arena” and are not forced to pay out big settlements to complainants. Nor does the protect-the-family excuse take into account O’Reilly’s vindictiveness. Joe Muto, the famed former Fox News “mole,” worked for years as a producer for the “O’Reilly Factor” before being outed and ousted for his interior spying. “If he thought somebody was trying to rip him off about harassment allegations, he’d fight to the death before giving up an single dime. He’d rather spend $10 million in legal fees fighting a case of someone he believed was lying about him than paying them off to go away,” says Muto, who expressed a qualified admiration for O’Reilly in his book “An Atheist in the FOXhole: A Liberal’s Eight-Year Odyssey Inside the Heart of the Right-Wing Media.” “In his mind, protecting the family would be fighting the allegations rather then letting them go away quietly.”

On his show Monday night — the first since the New York Times’s article — O’Reilly was silent on this topic.

There’s a reason why O’Reilly’s defense is so awkward, oblique and unconvincing: These accusers cannot be feasibly accused of serving some “far-left” agenda. They worked, after all, at Fox News and Fox Business.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:38:16pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Not even a Tab?

Diet drinks are even worse than sugary drinks. *gags*

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Doug Factors  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:39:33pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

He’s not smart enough to wag the dog. There will be real crisis soon enough, and we will not be ready.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:39:45pm

Kansas Republican who made the news for comparing Planned Parenthood to Dachau and the Nazis is now running for Congress. He is facing another Republican in a primary for KS-4. The current representative is retiring.

Steve Fitzgerald put his comments on state senate letterhead in a letter to Planned Parenthood.

He wrote a nasty response upon discovering that someone had made a donation to the women’s health organization in his name.

“It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Fitzgerald wrote.

He then compared Planned Parenthood to a concentration camp the Nazis built in 1933.
“This is as bad ― or worse ― as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Fitzgerald wrote. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

The letter was tweeted out by Planned Parenthood Great Plains.

Fitzgerald brought up Nazis again during an interview with the Kansas City Star.

“I think the Nazis ought to be incensed by the comparison,” Fitzgerald said.

Fitzgerald has offended other groups since he first ran for the Kansas state senate in 2012. During his first campaign, he told voters that Democrats should not be Catholic.

huffingtonpost.com?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:40:10pm

I noticed in that Pepsi ad every person is tall, thin and young.

There are no middle-aged, old, short or fat people. Is that the secret to world peace? Kill all the olds, the shorts and the fatsos? Like by taking away their health care and let them die of their pre-existing conditions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:40:26pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:41:33pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

A good reminder when someone says Portman is a “moderate” and “reasonable.” Fuck off Rob, oh and you’re only pro gay marriage ebcause of your son too, so you’re a weasel for other reasons too.

I’ve been building a healthy hate of Portman for a few years now being an Ohioan. That bit about his son did it. That was the first time I contacted him and he had some big come to an understanding reason for why he made the change in thinking about gay marriage, etc.

Been downhill from there.

I’ve contacted him probably five times since, twice last year and once this year. All the responses are Republican boilerplate BS modified by a word or two to give it some of Rob’s drab personality.

I don’t think there is anything the Republicans do that isn’t scripted and followed to the letter. A bunch of programmed political robots far removed from your average human.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:41:51pm

re: #190 Anymouse

Kansas Republican who made the news for comparing Planned Parenthood to Dachau and the Nazis is now running for Congress. He is facing another Republican in a primary for KS-4. The current representative is retiring.

Steve Fitzgerald put his comments on state senate letterhead in a letter to Planned Parenthood.

huffingtonpost.com?

Who the fuck is he to tell Catholics how they shouldn’t vote. Got news for you Fitzy but the Catholic Church is just as scornful of the death penalty and not helping the poor and hungry, two things your party is all for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:43:05pm

Lindsey needs to take a seat in a dark closet corner and STFU

Lindsey Graham: Susan Rice has history of ‘political manipulation’ of national security information

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:43:40pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

I’ve been building a healthy hate of Portman for a few years now being an Ohioan. That bit about his son did it. That was the first time I contacted him and he had some big come to an understanding reason for why he made the change in thinking about gay marriage, etc.

Been downhill from there.

I’ve contacted him probably five times since, twice last year and once this year. All the responses are Republican boilerplate BS modified by a word or two to give it some of Rob’ drab personality.

I don’t think there is anything the Republicans do that isn’t scripted and followed to the letter. A bunch of programmed political robots far removed from your average human.

What he did is typical of conservatives. If his son weren’t gay, he would have remained as anti gay as nearly every other Republican in office. I mean I guess I am glad for his son’s sake that he’s not Alan Keyes and still hateful but it angers me greatly that the possibility of his son losing his civil rights is what made him change his mind. It’s just typical of conesrvative Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:44:19pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey needs to take a seat in a dark closet corner and STFU

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Silly Lindsay, you think doing this will make them hate you less.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:44:55pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey needs to take a seat in a dark closet corner and STFU

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As a reminder, Lindsey Graham is no “moderate” either.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:46:05pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Who the fuck is he to tell Catholics how they shouldn’t vote. Got news for you Fitzy but the Catholic Church is just as scornful of the death penalty and not helping the poor and hungry, two things your party is all for.

Perhaps his Democratic opponent (if he gets one, since the Dems do not seem to be big on running for every seat) ought to bring that little tidbit up.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:46:06pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:46:14pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I suspect the breaking point will be some military adventurism that Trump engages in in an effort to wag the dog that erupts into a major armed conflict that we are neither prepared for or can hope to win.

Like a war with North Korea/China starting tomorrow?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:46:50pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:47:19pm

Well speaking of the ‘60’s, who remembers Rosemary’s Baby?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:47:41pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

Like a war with North Korea/China starting tomorrow?

Not China, don’t they hold most of Drumpf’s debt?

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:47:55pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Perhaps his Democratic opponent (if he gets one, since the Dems do not seem to be big on running for every seat) ought to bring that little tidbit up.

The Democrats can usually find someone to run for US Senate in a state like Ohio. Even in little Kentucky, we find people to get pummeled by Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:48:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:49:00pm

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

The Democrats can usually find someone to run for US Senate in a state like Ohio. Even in little Kentucky, we find people to get pummeled by Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell.

He’s talking about the Kansas 04 district.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:49:21pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Perhaps his Democratic opponent (if he gets one, since the Dems do not seem to be big on running for every seat) ought to bring that little tidbit up.

If the guy or gal is a fellow Catholic, absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:49:29pm

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

The Democrats can usually find someone to run for US Senate in a state like Ohio. Even in little Kentucky, we find people to get pummeled by Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell.

Did you see that this happened today?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:49:35pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

Well speaking of the ‘60’s, who remembers Rosemary’s Baby?

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Behold racial supremacy. //

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:49:48pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:50:42pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

BUTBUTBUT IT’S OBVIOUS FROM TEH CONTEXT TO WHOM THEY WERE REFERRING

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:51:08pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

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And Graham as a longtime member of Congress knows that. Nothing more infuriating than someone who knows how shit works pandering to those who don’t know how shit works for political reasons. Ignorance sucks but pandering to ignorance is even worse.

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:51:33pm

re: #204 thedopefishlives

Not China, don’t they hold most of Drumpf’s debt?

China or Russia, who knows?

If it’s China, POTUS Bannon probably uses that to encourage Trump to be reckless. This gang of crooks would use a war with China as an excuse to repudiate everything personally owed by Trump to Chinese creditors.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:51:35pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

He’s talking about the Kansas 04 district.

Whoops! Thought it was Portman!

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:52:38pm

re: #204 thedopefishlives

Not China, don’t they hold most of Drumpf’s debt?

That’s the problem, Tillerson (and by extension Trump) have no appreciation for the subtleties of the situation with North Korea. They think it’s some isolated pariah state like Iraq or Afghanistan, a little punk they can bully for a quick bit of political capital.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:52:49pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did you see that this happened today?

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Yep, more highway shenanigans.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:53:37pm

re: #215 Big Beautiful Door

Whoops! Thought it was Portman!

Nah, we were talking about the dipshit who compared PP to the Nazis.

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:54:18pm

Rachel has had a full plate tonight. She just did a piece on conservative media hitman Joseph DiGenova being behind the Susan Rice “may have done something illegal” smoke cloud that broke last night.

Interesting character has been flitting around since Monica Lewinski days and showing up on all the political shows.

He is partnered with his wife. Wiki: Victoria Toensing (and partner with her husband, Joseph DiGenova, in the Washington law firm DiGenova and Toensing.)

Strange there is no Wiki on hubby Joseph. Rachel showed him on TV shows like Meet The Press from back in ‘98. So, he has been in the public eye.

Old soldiers never die. Such long careers spreading conservative talking points.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:54:34pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Nah, we were talking about the dipshit who compared PP to the Nazis.

I lost track; my bad!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:55:00pm

re: #220 Big Beautiful Door

I lost track; my bad!

You’re good.

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:55:11pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Nah, we were talking about the dipshit who compared PP to the Nazis.

To be fair, Republican dipshits all blur together after a while, since they are uniformly a negation of all positive human qualities, and differ only slightly in their perversions and evil.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:55:43pm

re: #219 ObserverArt

Rcchel has had a full plate tonight. She just did a piece on conservative media hitman Joseph DiGenova being behind the Susan Rice “may have done something illegal” smoke cloud that broke last night.

Interesting character has been flitting around since Monica Lewinski days and showing up on all the political shows.

He is partnered with his wife Wiki: Victoria Toensing (and partner with her husband, Joseph DiGenova, in the Washington law firm DiGenova and Toensing.)

Strange there is no Wiki on hubby Joseph. Rachel showed him on TV shows like Meet The Press from back in ‘98. So, he has been in the public eye.

Old soldiers never die. Such long careers spreading conservative talking points.

Well you saw how long Phyills Schalfry lasted. She made her started opposing Eisenhower’s nomination to the Presidency when my father was an infant and only passed away about a year ago.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:56:03pm

re: #222 EPR-radar

To be fair, Republican dipshits all blur together after a while, since they are uniformly a negation of all positive human qualities, and differ only slightly in their perversions and evil.

Quite concur wink.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:56:28pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:56:34pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Well you saw how long Phyills Schalfry lasted. She made her started opposing Eisenhower’s nomination to the Presidency when my father was an infant and only passed away about a year ago.

Satan really didn’t want the competition.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:56:45pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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Jesus Christ, don’t I wish.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:56:49pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Not even a Tab?

Tab is still available … you can buy it on Amazon
amazon.com

Just over $30 for a 24 pack.

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:58:33pm

re: #216 Targetpractice

That’s the problem, Tillerson (and by extension Trump) have no appreciation for the subtleties of the situation with North Korea. They think it’s some isolated pariah state like Iraq or Afghanistan, a little punk they can bully for a quick bit of political capital.

No one will out bully Trump!

And that may well be a big problem.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:58:35pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

Satan really didn’t want the competition.

In a way as much as Ike was a good President, I wish she had succeeded since the GOP would have been doomed towards irrelevancy if Ike hadn’t saved their asses in 52. Should have just let them die then but granted the GOP still had a lot of decent people back then but still this was still the height of McCarthy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:58:55pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Behold racial supremacy. //

SATAN SAYS: That ain’t my kid!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 6:59:24pm

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

SATAN SAYS: That ain’t my kid!

Satan, you are not the father.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:00:19pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Satan, you are not the father.

Random CSB: I knew a guy who was actually on the Maury show. We interrupted our usual high school class routine to watch the episode when it was on. He was actually the father, he had a complete mental breakdown, we all laughed and I felt vaguely bad about it. But it makes for a story to tell.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:01:17pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Well you saw how long Phyills Schalfry lasted. She made her started opposing Eisenhower’s nomination to the Presidency when my father was an infant and only passed away about a year ago.

Kind of adds a bit of thuthism to the song line from Billy Joel “only the good die young.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:02:13pm

PEPSI: Let’s make a totally oblivious White Privilege commercial
SONY: Hold my beer.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:03:46pm

re: #234 Anymouse

Kind of adds a bit of thuthism to the song line from Billy Joel “only the good die young.”

I know sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:04:14pm

re: #233 thedopefishlives

Random CSB: I knew a guy who was actually on the Maury show. We interrupted our usual high school class routine to watch the episode when it was on. He was actually the father, he had a complete mental breakdown, we all laughed and I felt vaguely bad about it. But it makes for a story to tell.

Yeah that;s something else.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:04:26pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Olivia Cole is one of my former students, yo.

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:04:31pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

In a way as much as Ike was a good President, I wish she had succeeded since the GOP would have been doomed towards irrelevancy if Ike hadn’t saved their asses in 52. Should have just let them die then but granted the GOP still had a lot of decent people back then but still this was still the height of McCarthy.

Ike is the only post WWII GOP president who was acceptable in office. All others were mostly to completely awful, with occasional flashes of decency which exclusively coincided with their deviations from GOP orthodoxy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:05:08pm

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:05:29pm

re: #229 ObserverArt

No one will out bully Trump!

And that may well be a big problem.

Assuming Trump makes no move earlier than Thursday, it would be an opportunity for Xi to pants him on the world stage by making an announcement that any US hostility towards Pyongyang that rises above saber rattling will constitute an abrogation of the Korean Armistice Agreement and a resumption of hostilities between the US and China.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:05:31pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:05:31pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, I say that to my clients all the time.

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makeitstop  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:06:05pm

re: #219 ObserverArt

Old soldiers never die. Such long careers spreading conservative talking points.

DiGenova & Toensing. Major players in the Great Penis Hunt.

Repulsive humans, both.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:06:25pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did you see that this happened today?

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Wow. Not related to this particularly, but for my kids’ activities and just life in general in two years I drove through nearly every neighborhood of Lexington. I never saw a non-Latino construction crew on housing work. When a tree fell in our yard our landlord called in a crew: one white guy, one bilingual guy, and a Spanish-speaking crew. From that I knew, when I saw Trump in New Hampshire in summer 2015—where there isn’t much new home building to begin with and very little impact from immigrants compared to Lexington—that he’d win the GOP primaries as he ranted about a wall. The Hispanic population plays an important role in the Kentucky economy, but it’s easy to understand resentment if you drive around and see all home-building jobs going to one demographic.

On a personal note about bid rigging—my dad did a lot of the estimates for his medium sized construction firm. He never said anything, but my mom would confide that he lost several bids to other local firms because, and every knew, there was a lot of rigging going on amongst the country club set of developers and construction folks. Dad was honest. Honesty doesn’t always pay. More often skillful manipulation and lying and schmoozing do the job. I don’t recall any big raids like the one you’ve posted. Yes, I’m cynical.

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:07:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:07:26pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:07:26pm

re: #246 teleskiguy

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“Don’t tase me, bro. Drink a Pepsi instead.”

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retired cynic  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:07:34pm

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

PEPSI: Let’s make a totally oblivious White Privilege commercial
SONY: Hold my beer.

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Dear God!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:08:50pm
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Belafon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:09:07pm

re: #245 Barefoot Grin

That demographic was building houses here the DFW area on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

I sometimes joke that if an alien race were to come down and take a model US citizen, they would take a Latino, most likely undocumented.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:10:09pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:10:15pm

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

God Almighty, that’s horrible. Some of the other stuff in the thread is just as bad, like the insane image of a woman with breasts also on her back with the slogan “touch both sides for added enjoyment.”

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:11:32pm

re: #251 Belafon

That demographic was building houses here the DFW area on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

I sometimes joke that if an alien race were to come down and take a model US citizen, they would take a Latino, most likely undocumented.

And I should also say, they are skilled workers and have built a proud community in one section of Lexington.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:12:55pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

God Almighty, that’s horrible. Some of the other stuff in the thread is just as bad, like the insane image of a woman with breasts also on her back with the slogan “touch both sides for added enjoyment.”

Don Draper says: “You people are fucked up”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:12:56pm

From a Chicago Tribune Editorial on the eventual seating of Gorsuch to the Supreme Court:

Our proudest boast, as Americans, has always been that ours is a government of laws and not men (or persons), which means that no one is above the law, not even judges. This, apparently, is no longer the view of one of our political parties, but it remains the view of the other, and the view of the current president. We are about to find out if the Republicans in the Senate are willing to alter their rules to defeat the filibuster to seat a Justice Gorsuch and, once again, to try to return us to the original mainstream.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:14:03pm

re: #256 Eric The Fruit Bat

Dafuq?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:14:48pm
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retired cynic  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:15:10pm

re: #257 thedopefishlives

Dafuq?

Sorry, Jake, it’s the Tribune.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:15:20pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:16:17pm

re: #256 Eric The Fruit Bat

What kind of shit for brains can write drivel like Trump and the Republicans believing in rule of law? This editorial must be written by one of the dozen or so wingnuts in the country still capable of expressing themselves in coherent written English.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:16:39pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:17:04pm

re: #259 retired cynic

Sorry, Jake, it’s the Tribune.

Apparently it’s above my pay grade, because at every turn, the President and his cronies - and I use that word with all due disdain - have been openly flouting the law, daring someone to call them on it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:21:33pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:22:07pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

See? She has a black boyfriend now, she couldn’t possibly be racist.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:22:53pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:23:52pm

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

If Putin wants to annex the Baltic states, now would be a good time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:24:39pm

Tune in tonight to hear #LouisCK explain what kind of liar our President is. #GROSS #CROOK #DIRTY #ROTTEN #LYINGSACKOF#LSSC

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bratwurst  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:27:10pm

Excuse me if I don’t praise all of the sponsors SUDDENLY realizing O’Reilly is a human sack of garbage.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:28:02pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if she’ll stay home now, and do what he tells her.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:29:02pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:31:24pm

re: #270 Belafon

I wonder if she’ll stay home now, and do what he tell her.

I certainly don’t approve of the ‘barefoot and pregnant’ ideal for women in general, but for Coulter it is very appealing, especially if combined with no further writing or public speaking.

Coulter is a harpy whose entire career is based on spreading poisonous filth as widely as she can.

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Interesting Times  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:31:42pm

re: #134 Barefoot Grin

Built on the image of that young black woman that was so striking as she confronted the cops in her flowing dress.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:33:58pm

Uh-oh…..

Wolf Street: Bay Area Economic Outlook Buckles under Strains

Confidence in the economy of the Bay Area has plunged, according to the annual Bay Area Council Poll of voters in the nine-county area.

The respondents would be considered privileged based on their income in most parts of the country: 54% made over $75,000 a year; 26% made over $150,000; another 17% refused to give income data. Only 18% made less than $50,000. And 3% were unemployed.

But in the Bay Area, they’re fairly typical, struggling with the three top issues: costs of living, housing, and infernal traffic. And they’re getting “dour” about the economy and antsy about bailing out.

How could things go so wrong, despite all the money running amok? The three biggest culprits are cost of living, housing (which is part of cost of living), and traffic - which surged into third place, from an also-ran four years ago. In short, the costs of living and traffic are insane.

“We are playing a risky game with the Bay Area’s golden goose,” said Jim Wunderman, President and CEO of the Bay Area Council. “There’s an unquestionable link between our housing, traffic, and cost of living issues and plummeting confidence in our economy. We’re making it harder and harder for the next generation of leaders and workers to live here, and it will have serious consequences.”

The poll found that 76% of the voters consider the Bay Area’s housing problems a threat to the local economy. And who is bearing the brunt of it?

Millennials and those who have lived the fewest years in the Bay Area appear to be feeling the pinch the hardest. The Bay Area Council Poll found 33% of millennials ranked cost of living as the region’s top problem, and 65% listed it in the top three.

By comparison, of those over 65, only 16% considered the cost of living the top problem in the region, and 44% ranked it among the top three problems.

So what’s next? The inevitable…

According to the poll, 40% of the respondents say they “strongly agree” or “agree” that they’re “likely to move out of the Bay Area in the next few years.” Up from an already high 34% last year.

40% is a stunning number. This place would be empty. It would, of course, never happen. But if just 10% leave, it would still be a huge number. It would bring a catastrophic crash of the local economy, housing, and everything else. How likely is that?

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ObserverArt  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:38:17pm

Okay. Ann Coulter and Jimmy Walker and Bryan Fischer all in one thread. Along with all the other crap of today, I have hit the daily limit of cray cray.

So, I’ll take off and leave this little animation I did earlier today thinking some in the night shift might like to see it.

Washington Political Forecast - Continued Dense Fog Created by Increased Hot Air Descends Over the United States Leaving Everyone Asking “What the Hell is Going On?!”
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Belafon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:39:01pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:40:19pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

I certainly don’t approve of the ‘barefoot and pregnant’ ideal for women in general, but for Coulter it is very appealing, especially if combined with no further writing or public speaking.

Coulter is a harpy whose entire career is based on spreading poisonous filth as widely as she can.

She’s said that she’d give up voting if they took it away for all women, and has said various thing about how men should be in charge. I’m just thinking she should practice what she preaches.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:44:09pm

Oh Christ, it’s this asshole again…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:44:32pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:46:58pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

I recall a slew of businesses pulling ads from Rush Limbaugh’s show after his Sandra Fluke hate meltdown. Hasn’t seemed to hurt him or his show.

Patricia, as I posted before as long as Rush continues to lie any lie for Wall Street and whips up the masses for Republicans Wall Street will keep him on the air. He can alienate a whole bunch of sponsors, but it doesn’t matter. But when he loses his ability to whip up the racist whites, Wall Street will finally pull the plug on him.

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:48:40pm

Name of Trump Administration hire surfaces in the Ashley Madison hack.
secure.politico.com

Your party of family values folks.

More at Politico:

The Trump administration has hired the former executive director of the Louisiana Republican Party whose name turned up on a list of accounts released in the 2015 hack of the cheating website Ashley Madison.

Jason Doré started on Monday as assistant chief counsel for external affairs for the Small Business Administration’s Office of Advocacy, he confirmed to POLITICO on Monday. His office advocates on behalf of small businesses to the federal government and helps address concerns about regulations that may impact small businesses.

In 2015, Doré told the New Orleans Times-Picayune he used the Ashley Madison site for opposition research. He said on Monday he stood by that explanation. He told POLITICO the incident “really never came up” in his recent job interviews.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:48:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:50:06pm
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prairiefire  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:51:26pm

re: #282 Dave In Austin

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God, those slack turkey chins.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:52:14pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

She’s definitely not of child-bearing age anymore-but she’s got the cash to be able to afford treatments to be able to get pregnant.

But the thought of a Walker-Coulter spawn being taught gawd-knows what is just way too much to contemplate…..

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:52:34pm

re: #284 prairiefire

God, those slack turkey chins.

Waddles!

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Joe Bacon  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:52:44pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:54:26pm

Alex Jones to Beat Shit Out of Congressman (goes to Wonkville)

Wonkville shows the exchange with Alex Jones where he threatens Rep. Adam Schiff.

Wow, that really was an unhinged rant.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:58:06pm

This isn’t all that far-fetched: GOP fake news and conspira-liar outlets actually did try to pass off a pic of the fortified Israel-Egypt border as Mexico’s border with Guatemala. The desert landscape raised suspicion among non-morons and the hoax was quickly exposed. It still makes the right-wing meme circuit though.
Snopes.com Border Disorder

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:58:22pm

re: #288 Anymouse

Wow, that really was an unhinged rant.

A section of it was played on the podcast with our esteemed host, dude.

Poor Alex……I feel sorry for him……NOT!

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 4, 2017 • 7:59:49pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sounds like Blackwater XE Services Academi Constellis Group Holdings is bidding on the contract…

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wheat-dogg  Apr 4, 2017 • 8:20:18pm

UN refugee group helps kids cope with life in the camps by teaching them sports.

irishexaminer.com

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Joe Bacon  Apr 4, 2017 • 8:22:48pm

re: #256 Eric The Fruit Bat

From a Chicago Tribune Editorial on the eventual seating of Gorsuch to the Supreme Court:

Precisely what I expect to see in the Chicago FIBune.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 4, 2017 • 8:23:56pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’ve been dating for years and I don’t know which of them is the bigger right wingnut!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2017 • 8:52:41pm

re: #261 EPR-radar

What kind of shit for brains can write drivel like Trump and the Republicans believing in rule of law? This editorial must be written by one of the dozen or so wingnuts in the country still capable of expressing themselves in coherent written English.

It looks like it might have been a columnist rather than a standard editorial, but their editorials have been as ridiculous. They supported the AHCA and DeVos. The Tribune was always a Republican paper, although they do have some thoughtful writers. Their editorials will find an excuse for almost anything Republicans do, although they are still not as deplorable as the WSJ.

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2017 • 11:17:16pm

re: #286 Dave In Austin

Waddles!

Actually, these are wattles.


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