Disturbing News of the Day: US Strategic Command Links to Breitbart “News”

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Among other duties, the Department of Defense’s United States Strategic Command is in charge of the US nuclear arsenal, and is tasked with defending America against nuclear attacks. It was established in 1992 by President George H.W. Bush, to replace the outdated Strategic Air Command.

And now, in the Trump era, their Twitter account is actually tweeting links to Breitbart “News,” the favorite website of neo-Nazis and white supremacists throughout the world, whose former CEO, Stephen Bannon, is now Donald Trump’s closest adviser.

The article they’re linking to is an account of an interview with Air Force Gen. John Hyten, and although there’s nothing especially distasteful about this particular piece, Breitbart is well-known as a vile sewer of the most extreme hate speech, trafficking in racism, xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny, and every other nasty trait of today’s far right.

The point about this interview with Gen. Hyten is that it’s available from many other sources — but whoever is running the Strategic Command Twitter account decided to recommend to their ~60,000 followers that they read it at Breitbart.

Every day something more disturbing comes from the Trump Horror, but this may be the worst yet. The people in charge of our world-destroying nuclear arsenal are getting their information from (and recommending to others) one of the ugliest far right websites on the internet.

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318 comments

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:46:18am

If someone in the Obama admin linked to the NY Times conservatives would be having a cow.

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Interesting Times  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:47:58am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

On that note…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:48:31am

How apropos:

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:50:37am

re: #2 Interesting Times

On that note…

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If Hillary had been elected, the Republicans would have already voted out articles of impeachment about Benghazi and her e-mails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:50:40am
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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:51:54am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Why didn’t Obama order them to shoot the planes down?”

Tonight on Hannity.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:52:17am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Syrian MiGs
globalsecurity.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:53:50am

The thing that will save the us from our Breitbart-inspired generals is that the military, despite its authoritarian structure, is is highly dependent on competent technicians to execute orders. And a lot of those people are smart and are not about to blindly follow directives that lead their country down the tube.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:54:20am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

How apropos:

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That slogan was used by wingnuts a year ago, in order to protect their hate speech.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:56:35am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:58:06am

Fuck me

After last evenings storms, got a leak in the roof. About to fix lunch and see water drops from the kitchen ceiling. About to head into the crawlspace and see what I can do.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:58:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:59:11am

re: #11 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fuck me

After last evenings storms, got a leak in the roof. About to fix lunch and see water drops from the kitchen ceiling. About to head into the crawlspace and see what I can do.

nothing worse than a roof that still leaks even when it is not raining…leaves the lazy man with no excuse

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:59:37am

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s such a dandy. Looks like some British explorer in Africa c. 1870.

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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:01:23am

re: #12 Kragar

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I’m glad that the Dems fought how they did on this, and don’t think they should regret it at all.

That said, this pretty much solidifies that this country will remain a repressively conservative one to its core for a generation more, if not two. I look forward to the continued death of liberalism and sanity by 5-4 decisions…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:01:25am

re: #14 Timothy Watson

He’s such a dandy. Looks like some British explorer in Africa c. 1870.

Except that many of those dandies spent their own family fortunes and risked all sorts of diseases and physical harm and hardship to explore. JK is spending other people’s money and risking nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:01:40am

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:02:17am

re: #12 Kragar

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Every time he is quoted in a decision someone needs to ask him who he plagiarized this time… =O

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:03:56am

re: #14 Timothy Watson

He’s such a dandy. Looks like some British explorer in Africa c. 1870.

But too dumb to wear a hat in the hot sun.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:04:30am
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caseyjr  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:05:27am

re: #14 Timothy Watson

He’s such a dandy. Looks like some British explorer in Africa c. 1870.

Jared of Arabia?

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Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:06:34am

What the fuck is this shit?!
I…
Speechless.

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Skandal  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:06:44am

re: #21 caseyjr

According to President Bannon, even worse

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:07:25am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:08:17am

re: #21 caseyjr

Jared of Arabia?

I can’t see what he’s doing with his right hand but I swear he’s probably leaning on one of those old-style canes.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:10:52am

re: #24 Kragar

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Ah, may the lord hold him up in the light.

My favorite moment of him is his role in Kelly’s Heroes.

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:12:47am

re: #24 Kragar

Awwww, so sad. One of the greats and ever present during my youth. RIP you SOB.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:13:38am

re: #2 Interesting Times

Wait, what? Frum can imagine this happening? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

I note with satisfaction that he’s being taken apart in the comments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:15:56am
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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:16:21am

re: #24 Kragar

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2017 is starting out as bad as 2016.

Personally I’ve lost an Aunt (multiple systems failure, Uncle, married to the previous, to a brain aneurysm 2 months later), wife’s grandfather (her dad’s side), wife’s grandmother (her mother’s side), and my poor father (brother to the aunt above) has lost 10 clients (to death) since January 1st. 2017 the year everything dies.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:06am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who would we be striking in this scenario?

half sarc

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:20am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another translation: We need Trump to do some stupid shit entirely on his own for the inevitable impeachment.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:25am
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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:46am

re: #31 Sir John Barron

Who would we be striking in this scenario?

half sarc

Probably Mexico.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:58am

re: #31 Sir John Barron

Who would we be striking in this scenario?

half sarc

Brown non-Christians. No sarc at all.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:19:19am

re: #23 Skandal

According to President Bannon, even worse

Kushner is also probably Deep State….

/

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:20:28am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

TRANSLATION: We don’t want the tough vote

— Tim Mak

Additional translation: we don’t care about anything that goes on around here anymore now that we got the Democrat party out of the WH.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:20:30am

Just when you think David Frum might have started to get it, he shows he’s still a right wing tool who can’t really think for himself. That was a real asshole comment if I’ve ever seen one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:21:32am
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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:23:10am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except that many of those dandies spent their own family fortunes and risked all sorts of diseases and physical harm and hardship to explore. JK is spending other people’s money and risking nothing.

What do you mean “nothing”? You know how badly you can sunburn in a place like that?

And he’s not even wearing a hat.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:24:44am

The U.S. Air Force has been getting wackier and wackier for years. This bit with Breitbart is troubling for sure, but not surprising.

There has been a lot of stories about how fundamental religion has taken over the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Sadly it all ties together.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:24:49am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO KELLYANNE?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:25:51am
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:26:25am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Just when you think David Frum might have started to get it, he shows he’s still a right wing tool who can’t really think for himself. That was a real asshole comment if I’ve ever seen one.

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So Frum has to make stuff up now to use as an argument. What an ass. But we knew that.

Edit…I see Frum didn’t write that claptrap…but still to use it to make a point sucks hard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:26:33am

re: #42 Skip Intro

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO KELLYANNE?

Ivanka is Dorian Grey and Kellyanne is the Portrait. The Portrait has become too hideous to display in public.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:27:07am
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:27:35am

Isn’t it time that sanctions are placed back on Myanmar now?

A genocide denier, hope it’s worth being hated on a worldwide level just to appease the extremists in your cesspool.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:28:04am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again, I fully believe Trump is going to get fucking rolled like a joint at his meetings with Xi this weekend.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:28:14am

re: #24 Kragar

RIP. One of my favorite old-school comics.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:29:06am

re: #48 KGxvi

Before or after he runs to get Xi some McDonald’s?

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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:29:48am

re: #41 ObserverArt

The U.S. Air Force has been getting wackier and wackier for years. This bit with Breitbart is troubling for sure, but not surprising.

There has been a lot of stories about how fundamental religion has taken over the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Sadly it all ties together.

Ah yes, Colorado Springs. Home of the “Focus on the Family” crap. Colorado Springs, so conservative that they don’t want to raise taxes so that after 9 PM all the street lights go out.
Denver Post.

Not certain if they kept the street lights off since 2010.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:30:10am

re: #48 KGxvi

Again, I fully believe Trump is going to get fucking rolled like a joint at his meetings with Xi this weekend.

II hope Xi does some martial arts move if Trump tries his special handshake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:30:31am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:31:38am

re: #44 ObserverArt

So Frum has to make stuff up now to use as an argument. What an ass. But we knew that.

Nah. Somebody else made that up as a thought exercise - ‘Can you imagine how the GOP would react to this?’ - and Frum said he could imagine Hillary doing that.

It’s like the thing I used to hear from wingnuts when they got caught believing obviously satirical stories about Obama or Bill Clinton: “But what does it say about THEM, that we can so easily believe this?”

To which the answer is, “Nothing. It says nothing about THEM, and everything about YOU.”

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:32:26am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I went to his email page and used an adress in Bisbee Az since I do plan to retire there and said:

You [explitive] coward. “Bad day for Democracy,” fumed @SenJohnMcCain as he entered the Senate chamber for the Neil Gorsuch vote.

BUT YOU STILL VOTED FOR HIM YOU ANTI AMERICAN COWARD!!!!

[explitive] yourself and stop pretending you give a [explitive] about this nation you [explitive] [explitive] [explitive] punk.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:32:50am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Just when you think David Frum might have started to get it, he shows he’s still a right wing tool who can’t really think for himself. That was a real asshole comment if I’ve ever seen one.

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Seriously, every time Trump or his flunkies do something, just imagine Obama doing it.

Every fucking nitwit who voted for Trump, whether they be GOP loyalists; or these fucking “independent” Trumpgrets snowflakes we’re supposed to be buddy-buddy with now, would be fucking howling from every rooftop for his impeachment and execution.

And don’t even get me started on the fucking press. The fact that they are not in Trump’s face every. Fucking. Day about either having a white supremacist or his zero-experience son-in-law as his proxies is unreal.

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:33:14am

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

II hope Xi does some martial arts move if Trump tries his special handshake.

Upding for the hilarious mental image.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:36:13am

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

Nah. Somebody else made that up as a thought exercise - ‘Can you imagine how the GOP would react to this?’ - and Frum said he could imagine Hillary doing that.

It’s like the thing I used to hear from wingnuts when they got caught believing obviously satirical stories about Obama or Bill Clinton: “But what does it say about THEM, that we can so easily believe this?”

To which the answer is, “Nothing. It says nothing about THEM, and everything about YOU.”

Yeah, I edited my post after I saw the link to the “creator.” Still for Frum to use it to make a point is still fucked up.

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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:36:30am

re: #57 allegro

YouTube

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:37:40am
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Mattand  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:39:09am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

And this is the other thing, too. It’s not like Republicans are being duped. They are walking in with eyes wide fucking open and supporting this shit.

I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics someone like McCain is doing to bitch about the shit Trump does, and then fucking vote for it.

Or maybe I’m overthinking it. It may just be as simple as “I want myself and my party to stay in power as long as possible, so fuck it; I’ll stick with the guy who mocked me for being a POW and to hell with what’s right for the country.”

Gah.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:41:20am

re: #61 Mattand

And this is the other thing, too. It’s not like Republicans are being duped. They are walking with eyes wide fucking open and supporting this shit.

I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics someone like McCain is doing to bitch about the shit Trump does, and then fucking vote for it.

Or maybe I’m overthinking it. It may just be as simple as “I want myself and my party to stay in power as long as possible, so fuck it; I’ll stick with the guy who mocked me for being a POW and to hell with what’s right for the country.”

Gah.

It’s Party over Country with a dose of fuck you, I got mine thrown in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:42:19am

re: #58 ObserverArt

Yeah, I edited my post after I saw the link to the “creator.” Still for Frum to use it to make a point is still fucked up.

I think he used it correctly the first time, as in ‘Imagine what the GOP would have done’, but then when he said, ‘yeah, we CAN imagine this!’, that’s where he went off the rails into crazy bullshit land.

I mean, Sidney Blumenthal? Okay, so the SecState emails show a fair amount of Blumenthal giving advice, but, you know, we can look at the record and note that she rarely took any of it.

And the idea that she wouldn’t have already filled the cabinet and all the subcabinet positions? Or at least nominated folks for them? Shit, I bet they had the plan for staffing the whole Administration in place before the Convention.

Trump is where he is, because he’s stupid, and lazy, and doesn’t trust but a few people. Clinton is the opposite - smart, hardworking, and knows ‘binders full’ of competent people.

The ‘but we CAN imagine it’ bullshit, again, says absolutely nothing about Clinton, and everything about Frum.

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S'latch  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:42:46am

The US Strategic Command under the Trump Administration links to Breitbart regarding our “nuclear forces” while the Republicans get happy with the “nuclear option.” Just another day in Trumplandia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:42:56am

re: #62 Bubblehead II

It’s Party over Country with a dose of fuck you, I got mine thrown in.

speaking of which:

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:43:03am

re: #61 Mattand

And this is the other thing, too. It’s not like Republicans are being duped. They are walking in with eyes wide fucking open and supporting this shit.

I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics someone like McCain is doing to bitch about the shit Trump does, and then fucking vote for it.

Or maybe I’m overthinking it. It may just be as simple as “I want myself and my party to stay in power as long as possible, so fuck it; I’ll stick with the guy who mocked me for being a POW and to hell with what’s right for the country.”

Gah.

And by whining he can keep his face on all the Sunday morning news shows.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:43:13am

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

II hope Xi does some martial arts move if Trump tries his special handshake.

Trump could use a good spanking.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:44:06am

re: #60 Kragar

Not really. You’re going to need majorities in both Houses, and then you’re going to need the wherewithal to eliminate the filibuster for legislative matters, as changing the size of the Supreme Court will require amending the judiciary act.

That said, there may be legitimate reasons for increasing the size of the Court. We’ve been at 9 Justices since 1866 (from 1863 to 1866, there were 10 justices, but Congress changed the law to prevent Johnson from getting an appointment). There’s something to be said, actually, of going to 13 Justices, one for each Circuit.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:45:33am

re: #61 Mattand

That’s ultimately what was so frustrating about Kurt/DF. He knew supporting Trump was wrong. He fucking knew it when voted and he knows it now.

I just don’t get how people can function like this. It’s not rational. It’s why all these Trumpgrets people are fucking killing me. There was not a single shred of evidence that Trump has ever given a shit about working people, and now these idiots are like “OMG who knew he would do this stuff?”

You can’t have a viable democracy when much of the populace refuses to think critically and acknowledge reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:45:53am

LOL, no Spicey…that was not the reason…

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:45:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:46:09am
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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:46:31am

I don’t know why DF’s tweets should be put under private tags. He’s making them in public so he’s proud of them. If he wants to come here to defend them, let him. If not, okay too.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:47:12am

re: #68 KGxvi

Not really. You’re going to need majorities in both Houses, and then you’re going to need the wherewithal to eliminate the filibuster for legislative matters, as changing the size of the Supreme Court will require amending the judiciary act.

That said, there may be legitimate reasons for increasing the size of the Court. We’ve been at 9 Justices since 1866 (from 1863 to 1866, there were 10 justices, but Congress changed the law to prevent Johnson from getting an appointment). There’s something to be said, actually, of going to 13 Justices, one for each Circuit.

Of course in this era of polarization, as soon as one side increases the number of SCOTUS justices with the presidency and control of Congress, that will become as routine as accepting the resignations of US attorneys.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:47:32am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:48:32am

re: #69 Mattand

That’s ultimately what was so frustrating about Kurt/DF. He knew supporting Trump was wrong. He fucking knew it when voted and he knows it now.

I just don’t get how people can function like this. It’s not rational. It’s why all these Trumpgrets people are fucking killing me. There was not a single shred of evidence that Trump has ever given a shit about working people, and now these idiots are like “OMG who knew he would do this stuff?”

You can’t have a viable democracy when much of the populace refuses to think critically and acknowledge reality.

I still remember DF’s stated reason for his lie that he wouldn’t vote for Trump — Trump was an unacceptable national security risk.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:48:52am
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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:49:04am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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Skandal  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:49:08am

re: #59 CongoJack

Another move to defend against agent orange’s handshake:

The Defense to the Donald Trump Handshake

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:49:14am

re: #74 EPR-radar

Of course in this era of polarization, as soon as one side increases the number of SCOTUS justices with the presidency and control of Congress, that will become as routine as accepting the resignations of US attorneys.

There is also that aspect to consider.

I kind of want to create a Super PAC with the goal of challenging every member of congress, both primary and general, with candidates under 50. Call it a Gen-X SuperPAC, our motto: F you Boomers, and F you Millennials too.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:51:24am

re: #78 William Lewis

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:51:33am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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Oh, Jesus Christ, I did not see this until after I posted my last screed.

Fuck him. Seriously. McConnell basically pissed on the Consititiuion by refusing to even consider Garland for a vote, and Kurt is complaining about Democratic obstruction?

Fuck him. I hate saying this, because it’s too easy when you’re behind a keyboard and computer screen, but I’m done. I’m done with the whole “this is just a difference of political opinion.”

This kind of “rationale” that DF is using is anything but. It’s goddamn frightening.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:53:25am

re: #82 Mattand

Oh, Jesus Christ, I did not see this until after I posted my last screed.

Fuck him. Seriously. McConnell basically pissed on the Consititiuion by refusing to even consider Garland for a vote, and Kurt is complaining about Democratic obstruction?

Fuck him. I hate saying this, because it’s too easy when you’re behind a keyboard and computer screen, but I’m done. I’m done with the whole “this is just a difference of political opinion.”

This kind of “rationale” that DF is using is anything but. It’s goddamn frightening.

I’m sure the hope there is that the GOP nukes the legislative filibuster as well, perhaps to jam through a total repeal of the ACA.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:53:48am
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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:54:32am

re: #78 William Lewis

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scottslemmons  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:56:57am

re: #85 Citizen K

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:58:16am

re: #86 scottslemmons

And then start posting war porn about tanks and guns.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:58:19am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:59:28am

re: #69 Mattand

That’s ultimately what was so frustrating about Kurt/DF. He knew supporting Trump was wrong. He fucking knew it when voted and he knows it now.

I just don’t get how people can function like this. It’s not rational. It’s why all these Trumpgrets people are fucking killing me. There was not a single shred of evidence that Trump has ever given a shit about working people, and now these idiots are like “OMG who knew he would do this stuff?”

You can’t have a viable democracy when much of the populace refuses to think critically and acknowledge reality.

Part of it is that DF is Team R all the way, so he can convince himself that anyone on Team R isn’t as bad as everyone says. And Team D is the rival of Team R, so anyone on Team D is obviously worse than what everyone says. It’s sort of a sports fan approach to politics (sadly, I have this in my family - for them, no mater what Team R = Good; Team D = Bad).

You see it when a guy gets traded or signs with a rival sports team. Boston fans hate guy playing for the Yankees, then he signs with the Red Sox and suddenly they love him (or vice versa).

I don’t know how you undo that kind of thinking. And I always figure there’s going to be some level of this (yes, on both sides), but it seems to have hit a critical mass in recent years and left no room for rational thought, particularly on the right.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:01:06pm

re: #82 Mattand

I understand that. But you’ll forgive me, I hope, if I refuse to stop evangelizing him. I will continue to appeal to his better nature since I have seen it in the past. It may be a fool’s errand, but it is what I believe I am taught to do.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:01:13pm

re: #20 Kragar

I heart my AG.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:03:05pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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I am going to hold my typing fingers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:03:16pm

re: #82 Mattand

You know, who the fuck knows what he actually thinks? AFAICT, he’s completely unwilling to publicly take any stance that would oppose the GOP because of family. His issue. Don’t care.

But now, he’s posting these things to ingratiate himself with the worst people out there.

It reminds me of the scene in ‘A Man For All Seasons’, when Richard Rich perjures himself to convict Thomas More of treason, and More asks what badge of office it is that Rich is wearing. On being informed that Rich is now Attorney General for Wales, More says:

“Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for Wales!”

So, “Why Dark, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for wingnuts?!?”

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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:03:39pm

re: #90 William Lewis

I understand that. But you’ll forgive me, I hope, if I refuse to stop evangelizing him. I will continue to appeal to his better nature since I have seen it in the past. It may be a fool’s errand, but it is what I believe I am taught to do.

It’s noble and I applaud you for it. But it feels like he’s one of those kinds of people who refuse to be saved because, in his own mind, he’s already saved. This full headlong dive into right-wing assholery might be his idea of salvation.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:04:48pm

re: #86 scottslemmons

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:05:52pm
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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:06:33pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:06:55pm

re: #96 Kragar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:07:06pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Not really. You’re going to need majorities in both Houses, and then you’re going to need the wherewithal to eliminate the filibuster for legislative matters, as changing the size of the Supreme Court will require amending the judiciary act.

That said, there may be legitimate reasons for increasing the size of the Court. We’ve been at 9 Justices since 1866 (from 1863 to 1866, there were 10 justices, but Congress changed the law to prevent Johnson from getting an appointment). There’s something to be said, actually, of going to 13 Justices, one for each Circuit.

except that nobody would wanna be that 13th judge…bad juju

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:07:07pm

That amendment concerns risk-sharing. House Rules Committee is supposed to vote on it today.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:07:13pm

re: #94 Citizen K

Very likely. But what I am is what I am.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:07:27pm

re: #86 scottslemmons

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:08:02pm

re: #101 William Lewis

Very likely. But what I am is what I am.

Popeye? Is that you?
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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:08:06pm

re: #94 Citizen K

It’s noble and I applaud you for it. But it feels like he’s one of those kinds of people who refuse to be saved because, in his own mind, he’s already saved. This full headlong dive into right-wing assholery might be his idea of salvation.

I doubt he’s taken any recent dives - he was always at the RWNJ deep end. He just played moderate here because he got push back and couldn’t defend his stances.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:08:28pm

re: #86 scottslemmons

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:08:39pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Popeye? Is that you?
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I saw that response as I wrote it but couldn’t resist saying it anyway ;)

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:09:05pm

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except that nobody would wanna be that 13th judge…bad juju

I’ve been a member of the bar for 11 years, come June. I’m under 40, and more than willing to be the 13th justice. I may well be impeached the first time I show up to oral arguments with a flask, but that’s a chance I’m willing to take if nobody else wants the job.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:09:57pm

re: #107 KGxvi

I’ve been a member of the bar for 11 years, come June. I’m under 40, and more than willing to be the 13th justice. I may well be impeached the first time I show up to oral arguments with a flask, but that’s a chance I’m willing to take if nobody else wants the job.

Depends on what’s in the flask….

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:10:20pm
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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:10:36pm

re: #107 KGxvi

I’ve been a member of the bar for 11 years, come June. I’m under 40, and more than willing to be the 13th justice. I may well be impeached the first time I show up to oral arguments with a flask, but that’s a chance I’m willing to take if nobody else wants the job.

Those robes are substantial enough to cover at least a couple of fifths.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:11:03pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Popeye? Is that you?
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It’s Edie Brickell!

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:11:18pm

re: #108 Jay C

Depends on what’s in the flask….

Vodka, most likely. Or Bailey’s to top off my coffee in the morning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:12:23pm

re: #106 William Lewis

I saw that response as I wrote it but couldn’t resist saying it anyway ;)

The other one was, “Are you aware of too many things? Do you know what you know, if I know what you mean?”

YouTube

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:12:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:13:08pm

re: #111 makeitstop

re: #111 makeitstop

Damn! Lost all that time looking for the video!

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:13:58pm
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Bubblehead II  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:14:28pm

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except that nobody would wanna be that 13th judge…bad juju

Well it worked out pretty good for the 13th warrior.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:15:22pm

re: #116 Kragar

Wow. Just…wow.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:15:39pm
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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:17:23pm

re: #66 allegro

And by whining he can keep his face on all the Sunday morning news shows.

Yep. McCain and his one amigo, Lindsey Graham will say anything to get their faces on teevee—then they’ll vote straight party line. I’ll be they miss their third amigos—Gross Joe Lieberman and his stand-in “where’s the girl” Kelly Ayotte.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:17:40pm

re: #109 Kragar

Trump: “I think we’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency”

well, trump has had his most successful first thirteen weeks as President, and that’s all that counts!

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:18:13pm

All right, time to crawl back into bed as I have a date with work at 22:00 CDT tonight. Take care all.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:18:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:18:37pm

re: #116 Kragar

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:18:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:19:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:20:34pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:21:32pm

re: #111 makeitstop

It’s Edie Brickell!

//

And in case anyone wondered what happened to Edie…

Steve Martin and Edie Brickell “Love Has Come for You” | Great Performances | PBS

Steve Martin & Edie Brickell - “”When You Get To Asheville”

And that guy on banjo ain’t half bad hisownself!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:22:36pm

re: #123 Kragar

Breyer, Sotomayor, Ginsburg, and Kagan would be well advised to avoid people carrying umbrellas on dry days.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:22:59pm

re: #119 Franklin

Most successful 13 weeks is dumbassery as a result of a WaPo piece this morning attempting to compare bills signed into law by Obama vs. Trump.

Trump’s signed more into law than Obama at this point, but let’s talk about content of what was signed.

Obama signed the ARRA of 2009, which was a bailout, assistance for the states, stimulus package, tax cuts, and other measures to keep the economy afloat during the Great Recession, etc.

Trump? He gutted environmental protections, workplace rules, and attempted to gut Obamacare. Yeah, they’re on par with each other. Oh, and Trump gutted internet privacy rules that Obama enacted.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:23:14pm

re: #87 Mattand

And then start posting war porn about tanks and guns.

And “death before dishonor” screeds, followed by making excuses for right-wing military guys who are dishonorable, but it’s OK because they need the money.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:23:57pm

re: #116 Kragar

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:23:59pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:24:27pm

re: #111 makeitstop

It’s Edie Brickell!

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I liked that record…maybe I should listen again and see if I still do. I like her voice.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:03pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

Wow. Just…wow.

No kidding. It’s not as if the Russians stood in the way or anything. ///

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:06pm

Weird and frightening. If you are in the US strategic forces, Breitbart, its allies in the conspiracy press, and its Russian friends, regard YOU as the enemy, second only to the IC in the latter case.
Someone needs a wake up call, but where will it come from?

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:33pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Chuck’s got the ol’ scales out again. Go figure.

Can’t hurt those shitty ratings now can he.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:33pm
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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:44pm

re: #119 Franklin

I went with Juan Peron.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:26:55pm

This may already have been mentioned, but the wingnutosphere is all over this report that Ben Carson ordered an audit of HUD that turned up $500 billion in clerical errors and mistakes.

Unless I’m mistaken, even taken over 8 years, that is far more than the total HUD budget for that time period. Which might explain why it is that the mainstream media is ignoring it…

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:27:34pm

Way WAY back in 2013:

Limbaugh Compares Filibuster Reform To Vote “Allow[ing] Women To Be Raped”

(BTW: this was well over a year after Todd Akin introduced the world to the concept of “legitimate rape” and 21 months after Rush’s Sandra Fluke disaster…yet he was still rolling with the rape analogies)

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:29:07pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:30:55pm

re: #140 calochortus

This may already have been mentioned, but the wingnutosphere is all over this report that Ben Carson ordered an audit of HUD that turned up $500 billion in clerical errors and mistakes.

Unless I’m mistaken, even taken over 8 years, that is far more than the total HUD budget for that time period. Which might explain why it is that the mainstream media is ignoring it…

And they managed to complete a department-wide audit in just 35 days since Carson became Secretary? They wouldn’t even be able to do planning/prep work for a department-wide audit in that time.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:32:17pm
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:32:38pm

re: #50 GlutenFreeJesus

According to my, probably outdated, sources in the Canadian diplomatic service it’s more likely to be KFC.

My source said that back when Canada had the only Chinese embassy in the West their idea of high cuisine was ‘Colonel Chicken and 50’. That is KFC and Labatt’s 50. The latter is a Canadian beer and like most mass produced beers rather hideous.

But it has been a while and I never confirmed this so take my statement with a grain of salt.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:33:39pm
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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:33:49pm

re: #143 Timothy Watson

And they managed to complete a department-wide audit in just 35 days since Carson became Secretary? They wouldn’t even be able to do planning/prep work for a department-wide audit in that time.

Yeah. That too.

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:34:18pm

I am very unhappy about the situation…but I am not getting as carried away about it as some people:

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:35:03pm

re: #140 calochortus

The HUD budget is roughly $40-$60 billion depending on the year and program adjustments. So, the $500 billion as a total budget makes sense.

But those amounts are so far off as not to be believable, and the HUD IG’s office hasn’t officially released any audit results. So, I’m not buying anything they’re claiming about the HUD budget.

Blind Frog found the audit results, and they were in place before Carson had the job.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:35:35pm

re: #140 calochortus

This may already have been mentioned, but the wingnutosphere is all over this report that Ben Carson ordered an audit of HUD that turned up $500 billion in clerical errors and mistakes.

Unless I’m mistaken, even taken over 8 years, that is far more than the total HUD budget for that time period. Which might explain why it is that the mainstream media is ignoring it…

The other thing? This auditing process dates back before the election, and certainly long before Carson was sworn in, or even nominated. Carson didn’t ‘order an audit’ and Carson didn’t find shit. The OIG was already doing it, and already knew in November of 2016 that there were lots of accounting errors.

Of course, on the Right, this is depicted as “Carson finds half a TRILLION dollars of FRAUD!!!”

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:39:33pm

Chrissy and John got their picture taken with Sean Spicer?

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:39:35pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing? This auditing process dates back before the election, and certainly long before Carson was sworn in, or even nominated. Carson didn’t ‘order an audit’ and Carson didn’t find shit. The OIG was already doing it, and already knew in November of 2016 that there were lots of accounting errors.

Of course, on the Right, this is depicted as “Carson finds half a TRILLION dollars of FRAUD!!!”

And accounting errors, in and of themselves, are not necessarily evidence of fraud.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:41:27pm

re: #69 Mattand

It’s the human tribal instinct pure and simple. For many people their entire identity is tied to what group they belong to. To doubt the group, to challenge the tribe’s beliefs, is literally an attack on the individual’s identity.

So their brain invents all kinds of workarounds and blank spots to protect that identity. People will give up ethics before they give up identity.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:41:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:42:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:42:14pm

Have the comrades unmasked another of the furby’s nefarious plots?

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:42:33pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing? This auditing process dates back before the election, and certainly long before Carson was sworn in, or even nominated. Carson didn’t ‘order an audit’ and Carson didn’t find shit. The OIG was already doing it, and already knew in November of 2016 that there were lots of accounting errors.

Of course, on the Right, this is depicted as “Carson finds half a TRILLION dollars of FRAUD!!!”

Thanks for locating this document, and most of the issues arise out of fact that HUD wasn’t using GAAP and the amounts relate to restating obligations, debts, and trying to correct for deficiencies in accounting, not that there’s billions missing (we can figure out where the money went - but not expressed correctly under GAAP rules).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:43:19pm

Yeah, no shit. Welcome to the most powerful nation on Earth, run by a man with no consistent worldview.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:44:03pm

re: #140 calochortus

This may already have been mentioned, but the wingnutosphere is all over this report that Ben Carson ordered an audit of HUD that turned up $500 billion in clerical errors and mistakes.

Unless I’m mistaken, even taken over 8 years, that is far more than the total HUD budget for that time period. Which might explain why it is that the mainstream media is ignoring it…

Actually it makes sense if you realize that in most Republicans’ minds, the entire budget of HUD is a “clerical mistake and error“…

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KingKenrod  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:44:26pm

Trump has only been president 11 weeks. I hope this means he plans to resign in two weeks.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:52:00pm

re: #159 Jay C

Actually it makes sense if you realize that in most Republicans’ minds, the entire budget of HUD is a “clerical mistake and error“…

That’s what Mr. C. said. :)

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:52:13pm

re: #155 Dave In Austin

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:52:33pm

re: #160 KingKenrod

Trump has only been president 11 weeks. I hope this means he plans to resign in two weeks.

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Isn’t 13 weeks a complete TV “season?”

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:53:08pm

re: #163 calochortus

Isn’t 13 weeks a complete TV “season?”

Yep, a “short season” or whatever it’s called. Full season is 22 episodes.

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:54:24pm

Oh fuck me it’s only been 11 weeks?!

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:54:51pm

re: #165 allegro

Oh fuck me it’s only been 11 weeks?!

I think I’ve aged by 52 weeks at least.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:55:20pm

I see it has started raining. That must mean it’s time to go grocery shopping. Will I have the moral stamina to go to Costco too? (Probably, because otherwise I’ll just have to go over the weekend and that has to be worse.)

BBL

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:56:12pm

re: #104 allegro

I doubt he’s taken any recent dives - he was always at the RWNJ deep end. He just played moderate here because he got push back and couldn’t defend his stances.

Yeah…Dark’s favorite defense against anyone throwing reality in the mix was his patented “GTGBBL!”

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:56:53pm

re: #167 calochortus

I see it has started raining. That must mean it’s time to go grocery shopping. Will I have the moral stamina to go to Costco too? (Probably, because otherwise I’ll just have to go over the weekend and that has to be worse.)

BBL

One of the things I have learned as a retiree is that shopping around 10 am or 2:30 pm really cuts out a lot of hassles.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:57:27pm

re: #167 calochortus

I see it has started raining. That must mean it’s time to go grocery shopping. Will I have the moral stamina to go to Costco too? (Probably, because otherwise I’ll just have to go over the weekend and that has to be worse.)

BBL

I don’t know where you’re located, but the South City Costco after 6 PM on weeknights is like a dream. Easy parking, no lines, and the roast chickens are fresh!

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:57:49pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:58:03pm

LOL!!

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 12:58:08pm

re: #148 bratwurst

The GOP getting rid of the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees isn’t a big deal IMO. It’s just another example of Republicans being the scum that they are, putting their power and profit above all else.

I’m just glad the Democrats had enough spine to make things turn out this way, as opposed to a preemptive surrender that lets the GOP do as they please while retaining the filibuster (exclusively for use by the GOP).

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:02:07pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know where you’re located, but the South City Costco after 6 PM on weeknights is like a dream. Easy parking, no lines, and the roast chickens are fresh!

I’m heading for Redwood City. It shouldn’t be particularly busy, but I’m not in the mood for going any farther than our local grocery store shopping. I need to, because I need a couple things the local grocer doesn’t carry, so I’ll stop at Safeway and (sigh) Costco too.

And now, I’m really out.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:02:10pm

re: #171 Kragar

Trump has about-faced on Syria because Assad’s use of chemical weapons came so soon after Tillerson put Syrian regime change “off the table” that even Republicans were embarrassed by it.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:02:49pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing? This auditing process dates back before the election, and certainly long before Carson was sworn in, or even nominated. Carson didn’t ‘order an audit’ and Carson didn’t find shit. The OIG was already doing it, and already knew in November of 2016 that there were lots of accounting errors.

Of course, on the Right, this is depicted as “Carson finds half a TRILLION dollars of FRAUD!!!”

Also, from the restated financial statements:

These inconsistencies resulted in a gross adjustment of $262,662 million for FY 2015 in the presentation of the notes and schedules and did not impact the financial statements. Overall, the combined adjustments to the financial statements resulted in a net adjustment of $3 million, but no change in HUD’s financial position or impact to our programs. In other words, while the presentation of the financial information was inaccurate, the correction of these inaccuracies did not represent a change in cash balances or any improper payments, or misallocation of HUD resources.

portal.hud.gov

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:04:18pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:04:59pm
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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:08:59pm

re: #176 Timothy Watson

In plain English - this is a nonstory. It’s bringing HUD accounting methods up to GAAP standards, restating how the money is tracked, but it found no wrongdoing, unallocated amounts or fraud.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:09:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:10:33pm

SO, the most successful 13 11 weeks EVAR has us doing a 180 on Assad a day after the SecState says he’s said all he’s gonna say on NK.

Great.

Maybe this is the midseason finale, we’re gonna go on hiatus till May, and for the next few weeks we’ll get to see repeats, like another try at the AHCA?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:14:34pm

re: #179 lawhawk

In plain English - this is a nonstory. It’s bringing HUD accounting methods up to GAAP standards, restating how the money is tracked, but it found no wrongdoing, unallocated amounts or fraud.

IS NOT!!!! ALLEN WEST HERMAN CAIN BEN CARSON USED THE FORENSIC ACCOUNTING HE LEARNED IN BRAIN SURGEON SCHOOL TO FIND HALF A TRILLION THAT OBAMA STOLE!!]

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:14:40pm

Seriously. Did the admin not listen to Comey at all when he mentioned that the FBI doesn’t comment on news articles for fear of legitimizing or confirming their claims?

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:18:15pm

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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:18:58pm

re: #183 Franklin

Seriously. Did the admin not listen to Comey at all when he mentioned that the FBI doesn’t comment on news articles for fear of legitimizing or confirming their claims?

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How does the 1st Amendment not win in this scenario. In this case the government is the entity attempting to stop speech from an individual using a corporate medium. I am not too certain that Trump’s normal lawyers (read: hacks who sue/scam everyday people for their kingpin Drumpf) understand that this attack by him would be deemed improper (at least in my understanding of the 1st Amendment).

I await lawhawk’s answer with hope.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:19:36pm

Mind you, if you watch the cartoons with today’s understanding, they’re really rapey.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:20:30pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:21:29pm

re: #185 CongoJack

How does the 1st Amendment not win in this scenario. In this case the government is the entity attempting to stop speech from an individual using a corporate medium. I am not too certain that Trump’s normal lawyers (read: hacks who sue/scam everyday people for their kingpin Drumpf) understand that this attack by him would be deemed improper (at least in my understanding of the 1st Amendment).

I await lawhawk’s answer with hope.

The fact that Twitter can afford the best lawyers is at least as important as the apparent lack of legal merit in the administration’s position.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:22:56pm

re: #188 nines09

How very leadershippy and presidentialy. Mumblings from an empty mind..

Reality smacking Trump in the head would be funny if he wasn’t president.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:29:34pm

re: #190 Belafon

It’s like a bad movie.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:29:59pm

Oh my!
Voodoo Doughnut Won’t Have Eating Contests for Awhile After Man Chokes to Death During One

Oregon staple Voodoo Doughnut has suspended its eating contests after a man died while attempting to eat a half-pound donut at their Denver location early Sunday morning.

Witnesses say that Travis Malouff, 42, was attempting the doughnut challenge when he began to choke. By the time authorities arrived around 1:15 a.m., Malouff had died of asphyxia, according to the Denver Office of the Medical Examiner.

Dead is dead of course, but a half pound donut does not seem especially challenging or lethal compared to some of the things featured in eating contests. As recorded in LGF pages a few years ago, one poor chap died after winning a ROACH eating contest. A commenter on the original article won the internet that day by saying that the winner had bugged out (a witticism that I immediately stole).

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:30:08pm

re: #185 CongoJack

How does the 1st Amendment not win in this scenario. In this case the government is the entity attempting to stop speech from an individual using a corporate medium. I am not too certain that Trump’s normal lawyers (read: hacks who sue/scam everyday people for their kingpin Drumpf) understand that this attack by him would be deemed improper (at least in my understanding of the 1st Amendment).

I await lawhawk’s answer with hope.

We really don’t know enough about the situation. The government’s position could be that the account was making death threats and Twitter’s position could be that the threats weren’t explicit enough for them to simply hand over the user id.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:30:28pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

I think I’ve aged by 52 weeks at least.

dog weeks….

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:36:39pm

Be on the lookout! He’s carrying a VERY big gun.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:37:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:37:42pm

re: #191 nines09

It’s like a bad movie.

And I’m reminded yet again that truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:37:59pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

dog weeks….

Trump weeks

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:41:30pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

Oh my!
Voodoo Doughnut Won’t Have Eating Contests for Awhile After Man Chokes to Death During One

Dead is dead of course, but a half pound donut does not seem especially challenging or lethal compared to some of the things featured in eating contests. As recorded in LGF pages a few years ago, one poor chap died after winning a ROACH eating contest. A commenter on the original article won the internet that day by saying that the winner had bugged out (a witticism that I immediately stole).

I suspect it was more a question of HOW he was attempting to eat it, rather than what he was eating.

BTW, totally off topic, but someone just passed by my window* who appears to be doing Prancercise. That was…different.

*My window looks out onto a parking lot where a number of people go walking mid day.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:43:27pm

re: #185 CongoJack

I’d have to see the lawsuit, not just some writeup in the news, and I haven’t had the time to check what the allegations/claims are.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:43:41pm

re: #172 Dave In Austin

LOL!!

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Poor widdle fascist. Btw Steve, Trump is a globalist too. Enjoy being tainted forever, you ugly prick.

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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:46:45pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

I assume it if was a threat of some nature Twitter wouldn’t spend its time and effort defending the user. But what do I know - I don’t even have a twitter (or facebook, and only have a LinkedIn page because my workplace asked that I do).

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:47:22pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

And I’m reminded yet again that truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

I’m reminded of historians trying to figure out whether or not an Emperor or King was insane and led to the demise of that civilization they stumble across in the ashes of time.

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CongoJack  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:51:29pm

re: #200 lawhawk

Please don’t take my comment as a demand. Just like reading your posts good sir!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:53:04pm

re: #202 CongoJack

I assume it if was a threat of some nature Twitter wouldn’t spend its time and effort defending the user. But what do I know - I don’t even have a twitter (or facebook, and only have a LinkedIn page because my workplace asked that I do).

All I’m saying is that what is and is not perceived as a threat isn’t always cut and dry. Someone in the Secret Service could be overreacting, or they could be piecing together other bits of information that put the account’s activities in a new light that Twitter isn’t privy to.

In this analysis everyone could be doing exactly what they’re supposed to, Twitter is defending itself and its user base against what it sees as poorly explained government overreach while at the same time the Secret Service could be acting on what it genuinely perceives as a threat while feeling it can’t explain everything to Twitter without exposing its own sources and methods.

In other words, we don’t know enough to really make a judgement either way.

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:54:41pm

The Nation, the magazine best known for having significant trouble arriving in your mailbox in one piece, has a somewhat ridiculous take on Rachel Maddow’s extensive coverage of the Trump/Russia ties:

As many others have pointed out, an obsessive focus on Putin absolves the Democratic Party from having to reckon with their own failings, as if it was Moscow that tricked Hillary Clinton to not campaign in Wisconsin, or to spend the whole month of August (after Bernie Sanders’s gracious call on his supporters to back her campaign) courting neocons.

Yes, Rachel should shift her focus to the awfulness of Hillary and the graciousness of Bernie!

Rachel and MSNBC are in the TV business. Right now they are making TV that is attracting more viewers in prime time than they ever have.

Maybe The Nation can focus on other issues…once they sort out how to publish a magazine that doesn’t fall apart en route to my mailbox.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:57:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:58:28pm

re: #206 bratwurst

The Nation , the magazine best known for having significant trouble arriving in your mailbox in one piece, has a somewhat ridiculous take on Rachel Maddow’s extensive coverage of the Trump/Russia ties:

Yes, Rachel should shift her focus to the awfulness of Hillary and the graciousness of Bernie!

Rachel and MSNBC are in the TV business. Right now they are making TV that is attracting more eyeballs in prime time than they ever have.

Maybe The Nation can focus on other issues…once they sort out how to publish a magazine that doesn’t fall apart en route to my mailbox.

Gawd, that’s really close to “We know Trump might start a nuclear war, but Bernie would have been elected.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 1:58:59pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

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Mind you, if you watch the cartoons with today’s understanding, they’re really rapey.

“He’s a French model. I met him on the internet…”

“bone jer”

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:00:04pm

re: #208 Belafon

Gawd, that’s really close to “We know Trump might start a nuclear war, but Bernie would have been elected.”

It smacks of sour grapes. I strongly suspect that in one month, Rachel gets more eyeballs than The Nation has had in its 150 year existence.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:00:19pm

re: #206 bratwurst

The Nation , the magazine best known for having significant trouble arriving in your mailbox in one piece, has a somewhat ridiculous take on Rachel Maddow’s extensive coverage of the Trump/Russia ties:

Yes, Rachel should shift her focus to the awfulness of Hillary and the graciousness of Bernie!

Rachel and MSNBC are in the TV business. Right now they are making TV that is attracting more eyeballs in prime time than they ever have.

Maybe The Nation can focus on other issues…once they sort out how to publish a magazine that doesn’t fall apart en route to my mailbox.

I find this attitude (and similarly annoying but differently nuanced ones) common among those with a financial interest in appealing to the broadest of bases, and rare among those who really know how politics work, and have an interest in making politics work for more people.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:03:03pm

re: #206 bratwurst

Maybe The Nation can focus on other issues…once they sort out how to publish a magazine that doesn’t fall apart en route to my mailbox.

This is still a thing… in 2017?

That’s like when our grandparents used to say “we would all go play jacks down at the soda fountain.”

/onlyslightlykidding

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:04:33pm

re: #207 goddamnedfrank

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“Syria just bombed its own citizens with chemical weapons, so we need to go bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities that they’re mothballing as part of an agreement among us, them, and 5 other major powers.”

Wait, what?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:04:57pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

I find this attitude (and similarly annoying but differently nuanced ones) common among those with a financial interest in appealing to the broadest of bases, and rare among those who really know how politics work, and have an interest in making politics work for more people.

The thing is I don’t even honestly think Bernie would have made a good President and if I’m having those doubts, what are voters far more moderate than me thinking? But in the end, Hillary got far more popular votes than Sanders did. He shouldn’t have been handed the nomination because of the caucuses and hypothetical bs.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:05:49pm

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

“Syria just bombed its own citizens with chemical weapons, so we need to go bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities that they’re mothballing as part of an agreement among us, them, and 5 other major powers.”

Wait, what?

“Find me a list if all of Iran’s active nuclear facilities.”
“There are none. They shut them all down.”
“Trump took care of Iran’s nuclear threat!”

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:05:59pm

This is a very important anniversary:

100 Years Ago: America declares war on Germany

On 6 April 1917 America finally entered the First World War. CN’s Patrick Gregory looks at the background to the decision to go to war against Germany, and the forces which propelled President Woodrow Wilson and his country to the battlefields of Europe.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:07:18pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

The thing is I don’t even honestly think Bernie would have made a good President and if I’m having those doubts, what are voters far more moderate than me thinking? But in the end, Hillary got far more popular votes than Sanders did. He shouldn’t have been handed the nomination because of the caucuses and hypothetical bs.

That is all so clear to those who are not focused on their person financial bottom lines.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:07:33pm

Bernie would have won. Okay…but Bernie lost the nomination first. That’s the rules and you don’t know Bernie would have won and in fact you should be happy he wasn’t because a lot of his less than progressive votes and decisions would have been publicized and he would be hated by the same people who treat him as a hero today.

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:07:34pm

re: #212 Jack Burton

This is still a thing… in 2017?

That’s like when our grandparents used to say “we would all go play jacks down at the soda fountain.”

/onlyslightlykidding

I was a subscriber circa 2011. I had several issues arrive with parts of the front or back cover torn…and at least one arrived in a USPS envelope that was necessitated because the whole thing was falling apart.

During my year as a subscriber they also called me to ask for more money.

That and their reflexive hatred for Israel convinced me not to renew.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:07:51pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

The thing is I don’t even honestly think Bernie would have made a good President and if I’m having those doubts, what are voters far more moderate than me thinking? But in the end, Hillary got far more popular votes than Sanders did. He shouldn’t have been handed the nomination because of the caucuses and hypothetical bs.

I didn’t mean to imply they were supporting Sanders. Their anti-Clinton tone just made me feel like they were saying “why aren’t you paying attention to the true problem?” and totally blind to who is actually president.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:09:08pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

That is all so clear to those who are not focused on their person financial bottom lines.

I mean I get Sanders appeal. In fact, a lot of my fellow Perriello supporters are big Bernie fans but I just wish they’d acknowledge he is flawed too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:10:02pm

re: #220 Belafon

I didn’t mean to imply they were supporting Sanders. Their anti-Clinton tone just made me feel like they were saying “why aren’t you paying attention to the true problem?” and totally blind to who is actually president.

That’s true. This argument is pointless. Hindsight battles are the worst. Learn from losses and move on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:12:40pm

re: #206 bratwurst

I just want to take this apart a little:

As many others have pointed out, an obsessive focus on Putin absolves the Democratic Party from having to reckon with their own failings, as if it was Moscow that tricked Hillary Clinton to not campaign in Wisconsin, or to spend the whole month of August (after Bernie Sanders’s gracious call on his supporters to back her campaign) courting neocons.

First, Trump in JULY asked Russia to hack/steal Clintons SecState emails and publish them. Sure, ‘jokingly’, but it was a joke he repeated, and he sure didn’t seem to be laughing.

Second, Russian puppet Wikileaks dumps DNC emails talking smack about Bernie, right before the Convention.

Third, Trump spends October pushing Wikileaks email dumps.

Fourth, it’s possible to do more than one thing at a time.

Fifth, GRACIOUS?!? He ran as a Democrat, and lost as a Democrat, so it was his fucking DUTY!! And Clinton BENT OVER BACKWARDS to be nice, to be accomodating, to not go more negative than she had to, to NOT dump her Oppo file on him.

So, you know, fuck The Nation.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:14:24pm

re: #206 bratwurst

…as if it was Moscow that tricked Hillary Clinton to not campaign in Wisconsin, or to spend the whole month of August (after Bernie Sanders’s gracious call on his supporters to back her campaign) courting neocons.

I see courting neocons is always going to stick to Hillary because the Berners really glued that one on bigly.

I know a few that used that against her and even said Trump was a safer bet because of Hillary’s neocon ways.

I wonder what they are thinking about now. But I don’t talk to them. I found you can’t talk to Berners. Especially if they know you voted for Clinton.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:15:40pm

re: #183 Franklin

Here’s the response from Twitter. The Trump regime really does intend to go after its critics, First Amendment be damned.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:16:36pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Bernie would have won. Okay…but Bernie lost the nomination first. That’s the rules and you don’t know Bernie would have won and in fact you should be happy he wasn’t because a lot of his less than progressive votes and decisions would have been publicized and he would be hated by the same people who treat him as a hero today.

Bernie lost the nomination because he didn’t energize anyone outside of white people. So, let’s say we gain a few white people at the expense of enthusiasm of everyone else. Now stir in the RNC’s Oppo Dump on Sanders, and tell me again how he’s sure to have won.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:17:37pm

re: #2 Interesting Times

Perhaps the Rightwing spin machine would be correct though. It’s too bad that our side isn’t as aggressive in calling out Republican wrongdoing. We need to be more vocal in highlighting Republican misbehavior. We’re too polite.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:18:39pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

The thing is I don’t even honestly think Bernie would have made a good President and if I’m having those doubts, what are voters far more moderate than me thinking? But in the end, Hillary got far more popular votes than Sanders did. He shouldn’t have been handed the nomination because of the caucuses and hypothetical bs.

{Berner mode}

What hypotheticals!!! Hilary stole the nomination it was in those DNC emails. FACT!!!

{/Berner mode}

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:18:43pm

re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White

Bernie lost the nomination because he didn’t energize anyone outside of white people. So, let’s say we gain a few white people at the expense of enthusiasm of everyone else. Now stir in the RNC’s Oppo Dump on Sanders, and tell me again how he’s sure to have won.

He would have wound up slaughtered the same way McGovern and Mondale were. Bernie would have carried only Vermont and DC.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:19:10pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

So this will mean that Trump’s hands are tied in responding. There is no way that Putin’s Puppet can go against Assad, who is Putin’s ally.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:20:25pm

Wrap it up, I’ll eat it here. Pennsyltucky. In all it’s glory. This. This. THIS.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:22:46pm

re: #231 nines09

Wrap it up, I’ll eat it here. Pennsyltucky. In all it’s glory. This. This. THIS.

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See why I gave up and left?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:23:22pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

What were they going to do if he said something off kilter? Tackle him?

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:24:24pm

re: #231 nines09

Wrap it up, I’ll eat it here. Pennsyltucky. In all it’s glory. This. This. THIS.

I’m a little tired, and I can’t see the picture, but I’m having trouble parsing that.

Edit: I can’t tell if the person likes that it’s gone, or what.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:24:45pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon

See why I gave up and left?

I run into him every fucking week. Every. Fucking. Week. And if I went out more, it would be every day.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:25:16pm

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:25:22pm

re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White

Bernie lost the nomination because he didn’t energize anyone outside of white people. So, let’s say we gain a few white people at the expense of enthusiasm of everyone else. Now stir in the RNC’s Oppo Dump on Sanders, and tell me again how he’s sure to have won.

That’s the elephant in the room. Bernie didn’t do anything for minorities in our party and a lot of his outreach efforts were condescending at best.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:25:43pm

re: #234 Belafon

I’m a little tired, and I can’t see the picture, but I’m having trouble parsing that.

Penn State hat and sweat. It’s somewhere in Pa, I bet my LIFE on it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:25:58pm

re: #231 nines09

Wrap it up, I’ll eat it here. Pennsyltucky. In all it’s glory. This. This. THIS.

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Another low-information voter voting against his best interests. I can’t wait until the GOP destroys every last union in this country. People like him deserve to finally suffer for their ignorance.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:26:37pm

re: #234 Belafon

I’m a little tired, and I can’t see the picture, but I’m having trouble parsing that.

I’m not.Remember 1984 all too well, the steel mills closed, thousands of millworkers wound up unemployed and couldn’t find jobs that paid half of their old saleries. And when November rolled around they voted to re-electReagan because Mondale would raise taxes and support abortion.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:26:56pm

re: #229 Joe Bacon

He would have wound up slaughtered the same way McGovern and Mondale were. Bernie would have carried only Vermont and DC.

I wouldn’t go that far but he would have been shelled. The Bernie fans just don’t see he had significant weaknesses that the Clinton campaign never went after but Gen Eric Republican would have easily.

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majii  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:27:26pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

“Bernie would have won.”

What really pisses me off about Sanders’ defenders is that they’re unable, or unwilling, to note that Sanders is a ‘convenient Democrat.’ He interferes and intervenes in Democratic Party business, sows discord, then, he retreats to his status of being an Independent. I’m sick of him, and them. Whether they’ll admit it or not, Sanders played a huge role in splitting the Democratic Party last year, and after the damage was done, he suddenly changed his political party from Democratic to Independent. It’s only due to the way my parents reared me that I don’t hate Sanders and his supporters. I was taught not to hate people but to hate the things they do/say.

The truth is that Sanders is a user who likes the attention he gets from his supporters who seem to think he can do no wrong. He did something very wrong, alright, he inflicted lots of damage on the Democratic Party last year when he refused to abandon his campaign when he knew he was losing, and he did even more damage this week when he said that not all Trump supporters are racists. This might be true, but based on my observations, they may not be racists, but they do very little to distance themselves from them. When Steve King made his comment about the U.S. not being able to retain its alleged unique culture with “somebody else’s babies,” they remained eerily silent. Fruck, ‘em, fruck ‘em all. If I know something is wrong, and I don’t speak out against it, it means I endorse that behavior/position. My parents didn’t raise a fool, and I know when I’m witnessing racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, etc. It’s like Judge Judy says, “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” Piss is not rain, and I know the difference between the two.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:27:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:27:54pm

re: #240 Joe Bacon

I’m not.Remember 1984 all too well, the steel mills closed, thousands of millworkers wound up unemployed and couldn’t find jobs that paid half of their old saleries. And when November rolled around they voted to re-electReagan because Mondale would raise taxes and support abortion.

And the Bros still delude themselves about the WWC. They don’t know the WWC.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:29:29pm

re: #242 majii

“Bernie would have won.”

What really pisses me off about Sanders’ defenders is that they’re unable, or unwilling, to note that Sanders is a ‘convenient Democrat.’ He interferes and intervenes in Democratic Party business, sows discord, then, he retreats to his status of being an Independent. I’m sick of him, and them. Whether they’ll admit it or not, Sanders played a huge role in splitting the Democratic Party last year, and after the damage was done, he suddenly changed his political party from Democratic to Independent. It’s only due to the way my parents reared me that I don’t hate Sanders and his supporters. I was taught not to hate people but to hate the things they do/say.

The truth is that Sanders is a user who likes the attention he gets from his supporters who seem to think he can do no wrong. He did something very wrong, alright, he inflicted lots of damage on the Democratic Party last year when he refused to abandon his campaign when he knew he was losing, and he did even more damage this week when he said that not all Trump supporters are racists. This might be true, but based on my observations, they may not be racists, but they do very little to distance themselves from them. When Steve King made his comment about the U.S. not being able to retain its alleged unique culture with “somebody else’s babies,” they remained eerily silent. Fruck, ‘em, fruck ‘em all. If I know something is wrong, and I don’t speak out against it, it means I endorse that behavior/position. My parents didn’t raise a fool, and I know when I’m witnessing racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, etc. It’s like Judge Judy says, “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” Piss is not rain, and I know the difference between the two.

Yeah I agree with that which is why I honestly even though he’s supporting my candidate for governor here in Va would butt out.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:30:44pm

Texas’s most violent city back in the news:
Castillo Recognized as Shooter of 7 Because He Had Done It Before

LUBBOCK, TX - An arrest warrant and a police report provided new details on the shooting that injured seven people Monday night at Villa Town, 5401 South Q Drive.

Police said six of the seven victims were still hospitalized as of Wednesday.

Adrian Vicente Castillo, 23, was arrested Tuesday for aggravated assault. He was held Wednesday in lieu of a $500,000 bond.
*snip*
The warrant said a witness recognized Castillo from news coverage in 2015. This is not Castillo’s first time to fire a gun into a crowd of people.

A Lubbock Police Department press release on August 13, 2015, said Castillo was arrested after a shooting at The Copper Caboose, 5609 South Q Drive.

The 2015 press release said, “He went out to a vehicle where retrieved a handgun and began firing into a crowd in the parking lot.”

One person was hit in the 2015 shooting and the injuries were not life threatening.

The 2015 aggravated assault charge against Castillo was dropped when he agreed to accept guilt for being a felon in possession of a firearm. The possession charge carried a two-year prison sentence with credit for time already served in jail. He was released in August of 2016, according to local court records, having served far less than the full two years.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:31:03pm

re: #227 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps the Rightwing spin machine would be correct though. It’s too bad that our side isn’t as aggressive in calling out Republican wrongdoing. We need to be more vocal in highlighting Republican misbehavior. We’re too polite.

We don’t have a 24 hour a day propaganda channel masqurading as news, nor do we have thousands of radio talkers blasting the public with actual facts. Until we find a way to counter that I don’t see us winning jack shit.

BTW, I see O’Reilly’s raitings are up after his latest sex scandal because of course they are.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

Another low-information voter voting against his best interests. I can’t wait until the GOP destroys every last union in this country. People like him deserve to finally suffer for their ignorance.

I find no joy in burning down houses next to my own.

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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:33:10pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

The response from Twitter looks good to me. It gives the history (such as it is) of the @alt* accounts, says the statutory authority is lacking in point 7 and then, in point 8, notes the Supreme Court has long protected anonymous political speech. The rest of the complaint is an explication of those things.

I’m of the opinion that if the @alt_uscis account had been threatening people, Twitter would not be throwing its weight behind a lawsuit to protect the user(s). For once, Twitter appears to be doing the right thing. I wonder how long that is going to last (although I did see on the @alt_uscis account that the ACLU is represnting it).

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:36:28pm

re: #249 mmmirele

The response from Twitter looks good to me. It gives the history (such as it is) of the @alt* accounts, says the statutory authority is lacking in point 7 and then, in point 8, notes the Supreme Court has long protected anonymous political speech. The rest of the complaint is an explication of those things.

I’m of the opinion that if the @alt_uscis account had been threatening people, Twitter would not be throwing its weight behind a lawsuit to protect the user(s). For once, Twitter appears to be doing the right thing. I wonder how long that is going to last (although I did see on the @alt_uscis account that the ACLU is represnting it).

They turned over the offending account in the Eichenwald case. It’s not like they block every request nor turn over every request for information about a person.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:36:59pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

Did you actually expect Scott Adams to stop floating around in his Ayn Randian Laissez Fairyland?

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:38:45pm

Excellent article on what motivates the anti-political correctness movement. (Hint- It’s not about free speech, it’s about race).

cracked.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:39:02pm

Elsewhere in Lubbock, a man took exception to being evicted and ran over 3 police officers as he left his former digs.
Three Lubbock Police Officers Hurt When Eviction Turned Violent

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:39:19pm

re: #173 EPR-radar

Yes, very proud of Democratic Senators for sticking to their guns about Gorsuch who is being placed in a stolen SCOTUS vacancy. Garland deserved a vote and got nothing because Republicans couldn’t respect the Black man in the White House.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:41:22pm

re: #248 nines09

I find no joy in burning down houses next to my own.

Unforunately reason, rationality, and facts no longer matter to people who willingly vote against their best interests again, and again, and again. I hate to say, it but I hope houses burn and people suffer. I honestly believe Americans deserve it now.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:41:48pm

re: #252 DodgerFan1988

It’s about being able to call Black people the “N” word because a few rappers use the term “Nigga”. It’s about being able to punch down on marginalized people for cheap laughs. It’s about being able to say how you really feel about minorities without any pushback.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:42:23pm

re: #255 Dr. Matt

Unforunately reason, rationality, and facts no longer matter to people who willingly vote against their best interests again, and again, and again. I hate to say, it but I hope houses burn and people suffer. I honestly believe Americans deserve it now.

Yeah, but after that happens, they’ll still have…Jesus…

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:42:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:42:52pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

Here’s the response from Twitter. The Trump regime really does intend to go after its critics, First Amendment be damned.

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It appears that the only “threats” are to a particular thin orange skin and his enablers…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:43:06pm

re: #257 Joe Bacon

Yeah, butafterthat happens, they’ll still have…Jesus…

And their gunz and Fox “news”.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:43:34pm

I’m writing myself an Rx for bourbon. Later.

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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:44:43pm

re: #250 Belafon

They turned over the offending account in the Eichenwald case. It’s not like they block every request nor turn over every request for information about a person.

Correct. The Eichenwald asshat was trying to harm/kill Eichenwald. This user is, as far as I can tell, engaging in (cheeky) anonymous political speech, which is highly protected under First Amendment case law.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:47:28pm

re: #255 Dr. Matt

Unforunately reason, rationality, and facts no longer matter to people who willingly vote against their best interests again, and again, and again. I hate to say, it but I hope houses burn and people suffer. I honestly believe Americans deserve it now.

Don’t go there. It’s a dark place. You have no idea how angry I am. But wanton violence serves no one. I watched houses burn and people bleed. Nobody wins. Nobody.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:48:46pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

It appears that the only “threats” are to a particular thin orange skin and his enablers…

He just wishes he had the power Putin does:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:49:55pm

re: #264 Belafon

He just wishes he had the power Putin does:

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The religious right is so jealous that can be done even though at the same time, they liked claiming Obama was gay.

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allegro  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:50:08pm

re: #263 nines09

Don’t go there. It’s a dark place. You have no idea how angry I am. But wanton violence serves no one. I watched houses burn and people bleed. Nobody wins. Nobody.

And as we’ve seen time and again they never learn nor will they and the homes of innocents burn with them. All we can do is try to engage the millions of apathetics and protect ourselves as best we can.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:50:29pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

Do you know if there has been any pushback against the papers that print that shitball’s strip?

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:50:56pm

re: #229 Joe Bacon

He would have wound up slaughtered the same way McGovern and Mondale were. Bernie would have carried only Vermont and DC.

I tried that logic with the Berners I know. It didn’t work.

Things were different back then they said.

And they also said the party hasn’t been right since Bill Clinton went all Wall Streetin’ to the center. It should be all about The New Dealin’ FDR…that would work again. And Bernie was the New FDR.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:51:37pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:51:54pm

re: #268 ObserverArt

I tried that logic with the Berners I know. It didn’t work.

Things were different back then they said.

And they also said the party hasn’t been right since Bill Clinton went all Wall Streetin’ to the center. It should be all about The New Dealin’ FDR…that would work again. And Bernie was the New FDR.

Yahbut, FDR could get people to vote for him.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:52:30pm

re: #264 Belafon

He just wishes he had the power Putin does:

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Another Republican SC Justice and he will.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:53:34pm

The director speaks:

And guess what? It was inspired by a lyric from a Clash song.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:55:09pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

How does he explain Trump’s own reaction? Is he a fan boy with reservations?

I stay away from him. I hated his stupid cartoon, even before I knew anything about his politics.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 2:55:43pm

re: #273 ObserverArt

How does he explain Trumps own reaction? Is he a fan boy with reservations?

I stay away from him. I hated his stupid cartoon, even before I knew anything about his politics.

Have to ask Alex Jones tthat. I agree though. I enver liked Dilbert.

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nines09  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:00:29pm

re: #266 allegro

And as we’ve seen time and again they never learn nor will they and the homes of innocents burn with them. All we can do is try to engage the millions of apathetics and protect ourselves as best we can.

The world is awash with people I could beat senseless. My self control and common sense and love of my family prevents me. My children and wife would suffer. Besides I’m old and I would hurt my hands. All I can do is try to live my life as a human being and know there are many human beings here.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:02:09pm

re: #273 ObserverArt

How does he explain Trumps own reaction? Is he a fan boy with reservations?

I stay away from him. I hated his stupid cartoon, even before I knew anything about his politics.

The Trump-Putin Pact is starting to split, and fanboys have to take sides. Adams is leaning Putin, since this is whose CT this is. Civil war on the right?

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:03:23pm

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

There’s an argument to be made that because Syria likely violated the Geneva Protocols (likely because there is a legal issue of whether use in a civil war violates the letter of the treaty, while obviously violating the spirit of the treaty), and as such has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity, intervention by other parties to those treaties could be allowed under international law.

That doesn’t necessarily mean getting involved in what is essentially a 4-sided civil war (Assad’s regime, Arab rebels, Kurdish rebels, and ISIS) is a good idea. But there is a legal and even moral justification for acting.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:03:56pm

Twitler stabs Staliputin in the back? We have heard this before.

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Jason Munro  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:06:47pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

I wish I hadn’t read that. I was aware he is a self absorbed nutbag, but WOW. The “master persuader” shit would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic (actually it’s still laughable). That was my second, and last, visit to his blog. His head is jammed so far up his own ass his ego is leaking out. And dear lord that comment section is like a breitbart/zerohedge/wnd mash-up of bad crazy.

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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:08:06pm

Sigh….I’m getting that despairing feeling again, after the nuke was dropped, and almost universal reaction outside of here and my carefully cultivated twitter timeline being ‘Well, Reid started it, so…’, ignoring the entire context of what Reid did. But fuck it, Dems did something once, it’s forever equal to Republicans doing something 150 or so fucking times, and probably worse because Dems.

And now with the current Court, we’re stuck as an impossibly conservative country for at least a generation now. And with the goddamn instant credulity Trump is getting, again, on shit he deserves no credulity on, after months of malfeasance, I’m just…god.

It feels so goddamn pointless. We’re powerless. And there won’t be time to change or win back anything before it’s all imploded, or exploded, or whatever Trump decides to do cheered on by the press he demonizes still to this day.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:08:08pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

The Trump-Putin Pact is starting to split, and fanboys have to take sides. Adams is leaning Putin, since this is whose CT this is. Civil war on the right?

It’s a civil war within a civil war on the right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:10:11pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

It’s a civil war within a civil war on the right.

Derp-ception.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:10:56pm

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Derp-ception.

Get out your Totems!

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:14:20pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I just want to take this apart a little:

First, Trump in JULY asked Russia to hack/steal Clintons SecState emails and publish them. Sure, ‘jokingly’, but it was a joke he repeated, and he sure didn’t seem to be laughing.

Second, Russian puppet Wikileaks dumps DNC emails talking smack about Bernie, right before the Convention.

Third, Trump spends October pushing Wikileaks email dumps.

Fourth, it’s possible to do more than one thing at a time.

Fifth, GRACIOUS?!? He ran as a Democrat, and lost as a Democrat, so it was his fucking DUTY!! And Clinton BENT OVER BACKWARDS to be nice, to be accomodating, to not go more negative than she had to, to NOT dump her Oppo file on him.

So, you know, fuck The Nation.

Yeah—the Bernie graciously asked his peeps to vote for her (actually, he didn’t, so much as railing against Trump) pretty much made my eyes cross.

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:14:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:14:46pm

re: #277 KGxvi

There’s an argument to be made that because Syria likely violated the Geneva Protocols (likely because there is a legal issue of whether use in a civil war violates the letter of the treaty, while obviously violating the spirit of the treaty), and as such has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity, intervention by other parties to those treaties could be allowed under international law.

That doesn’t necessarily mean getting involved in what is essentially a 4-sided civil war (Assad’s regime, Arab rebels, Kurdish rebels, and ISIS) is a good idea. But there is a legal and even moral justification for acting.

Sure, but the alt-left dumbfucks who thought Trump was a better option in terms of foreign intervention aren in for a rude fucking surprise. Especially because Trump will take the opening Assad has provided and morphs it into his long desired war w/ Iran. It’s already happening.

That’s how he’s going to keep us from getting into a direct shooting war with the Russian forces in Syria, by saying Assad will fall without Iran’s support. This will cause oil prices to spike and Putin’s Russia will get their long awaited payoff for interfering in our election on Trump’s behalf. Trump will get to pretend he’s a real “War President” while also giving him an excuse to abrogate the Iranian nuclear treaty Obama negotiated.

Within the White House this will also be seen as a panacea for an abysmal first few months and worst ever approval ratings.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:15:29pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:15:31pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

The Trump-Putin Pact is starting to split, and fanboys have to take sides. Adams is leaning Putin, since this is whose CT this is. Civil war on the right?

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel

Twitler stabs Staliputin in the back? We have heard this before.

It will be interesting to see how Putin handles Trump if Trump starts to do things Vlad is not happy about. I can only imagine it might not be pretty for Trump. He is out of his league of thinking he is a bad ass if he is in a street fight with Putin.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:19:30pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

Trump will just have Jared straighten Putin out for him.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:19:31pm

re: #286 goddamnedfrank

Sure, but the alt-left dumbfucks who thought Trump was a better option in terms of foreign intervention aren in for a rude fucking surprise. Especially because Trump will take the opening Assad has provided and morphs it into his long desired war w/ Iran. It’s already happening.

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That’s how he’s going to keep us from getting into a direct shooting war with the Russian forces in Syria, by saying Assad will fall without Iran’s support. This will cause oil prices to spike and Putin’s Russia will get their long awaited payoff for interfering in our election on Trump’s behalf. Trump will get to pretend he’s a real “War President” while also giving him an excuse to abrogate the Iranian nuclear treaty Obama negotiated.

Within the White House this will also be seen as a panacea for an abysmal first few months and worst ever approval ratings.

Chilling scenario Frank. Probably too much truth in it for mass consumption. Until it happens.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:20:14pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Just when you think David Frum might have started to get it, he shows he’s still a right wing tool who can’t really think for himself. That was a real asshole comment if I’ve ever seen one.

The sharp drop-off in the number of likes and retweets from one tweet to the next tells a grim story.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:22:12pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

It will be interesting to see how Putin handles Trump if Trump starts to do things Vlad is not happy about. I can only imagine it might not be pretty for Trump. He is out of his league of thinking he is a bad ass if he is in a street fight with Putin.

The only reason Trump said anything at all about the Syrian gas attack was because it was so egregious and because CENTCOM saw it happen in real time with their own eyes and made it clear to him in no uncertain terms this was a fact that would almost certainly leak if he tried to cover it up.

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451_Montag  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:25:06pm

Bernie bots are like people’s obsession with medication and instant gratification. Have sleepy foot syndrome, take a pill it will be better immediately. Hence the frankly ridiculous amount of medication adverts, same as the get rich quick teleads, the pay now instant salvation churches, the quick easy pay options on cars etc etc etc. Want success? fuck it you can have in now, no need to wait. Just vote for the halfwit in orange pancake.

Get Bernie’s ideas into the democratic party. We want it now so fuck everyone. Can’t have him, let Trump win, he’ll be so bad we’ll get the unicorns as soon as he imp!Idea.

None of this get Clinton in, work with the dems for a few years, rise in the party, build relationships, til your ideas take hold. You know hard work and perseverance.

It’s the national disease.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:25:13pm

re: #286 goddamnedfrank

Sure, but the alt-left dumbfucks who thought Trump was a better option in terms of foreign intervention aren in for a rude fucking surprise. Especially because Trump will take the opening Assad has provided and morphs it into his long desired war w/ Iran. It’s already happening.

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That’s how he’s going to keep us from getting into a direct shooting war with the Russian forces in Syria, by saying Assad will fall without Iran’s support. This will cause oil prices to spike and Putin’s Russia will get their long awaited payoff for interfering in our election on Trump’s behalf. Trump will get to pretend he’s a real “War President” while also giving him an excuse to abrogate the Iranian nuclear treaty Obama negotiated.

Within the White House this will also be seen as a panacea for an abysmal first few months and worst ever approval ratings.

I don’t think taking the side of dictators is going to much help those dismal approval ratings. And since the only thing Trump really cares about is how much people (pretend to) like him… fuck, I wish I could say he wouldn’t be dumb enough to follow through, but no, he’s just that dumb.

I had an epiphany earlier today… Trump is the antithesis of Plato’s philosopher king. Incurious, petty, and too stupid to realize he’s not that smart.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:28:51pm

re: #294 KGxvi

I don’t think taking the side of dictators is going to much help those dismal approval ratings. And since the only thing Trump really cares about is how much people (pretend to) like him… fuck, I wish I could say he wouldn’t be dumb enough to follow through, but no, he’s just that dumb.

I had an epiphany earlier today… Trump is the antithesis of Plato’s philosopher king. Incurious, petty, and too stupid to realize he’s not that smart.

I always say that as being too stupid to know how stupid you really are.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:29:10pm

re: #293 451_Montag

None of this get Clinton in, work with the dems for a few years, rise in the party, build relationships, til your ideas take hold. You know hard work and perseverance.

THIS THIS THIS

People who have had no allegiance to, and have put no work into, the Democratic Party have this petulant attitude and think they should be able to dictate terms.

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451_Montag  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:29:34pm

re: #294 KGxvi

I don’t think taking the side of dictators is going to much help those dismal approval ratings. And since the only thing Trump really cares about is how much people (pretend to) like him… fuck, I wish I could say he wouldn’t be dumb enough to follow through, but no, he’s just that dumb.

I had an epiphany earlier today… Trump is the antithesis of Plato’s philosopher king. Incurious, petty, and too stupid to realize he’s not that smart.

I think deep down he knows he’s not smart, just a carnival barker. Hence the over compensation and attacks. It’s why he was always trying to get in with the NY monied gentry. He knows he’s a 2 bit racist grifter.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:30:05pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

Luap Nor as well:

rawstory.com

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DuckDharma  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:30:07pm

Surprising no one

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:30:39pm

re: #294 KGxvi

I don’t think taking the side of dictators is going to much help those dismal approval ratings. And since the only thing Trump really cares about is how much people (pretend to) like him… fuck, I wish I could say he wouldn’t be dumb enough to follow through, but no, he’s just that dumb.

I had an epiphany earlier today… Trump is the antithesis of Plato’s philosopher king. Incurious, petty, and too stupid to realize he’s not that smart.

I still like my analysis that Trump is wingnut God.

The god of those shouty evangelical preachers with the big hair and the rent-boys on the side is not some sophisticated theological construct. A stupid and bad-tempered old man with more power than he should have is the perfect model for that god. Like everything else wingnuts do, it’s projection in action.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:32:24pm

re: #299 DuckDharma

Trump should get no support from Democrats or the mushy middle for any foreign adventures that aren’t caused by something like Pearl Harbor 2.0.

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Nyet  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:32:36pm

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

Trump cheerleader and fanboy Scott Adams calling the Syrian gas massacre fake. What a disgusting human being.

blog.dilbert.com

Adams has creeped me out for a long time. Something about his style. Won’t be surprised if some day someone finds corpses in his basement.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:33:37pm

re: #302 Nyet

Adams has creeped me out for a long time. Something about his style. Won’t be surprised if some day someone finds corpses in his basement.

Or as many sexual harassment settlements as O’Reilly.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:33:38pm

re: #294 KGxvi

I don’t think taking the side of dictators is going to much help those dismal approval ratings. And since the only thing Trump really cares about is how much people (pretend to) like him… fuck, I wish I could say he wouldn’t be dumb enough to follow through, but no, he’s just that dumb.

Exactly. Events aren’t being decided by what an intelligent and impartial observer thinks is likely happen with regard to his steadily failing approval numbers but what he and his team of dumbfucks want to happen. We’re dealing with the most intellectually incurious shitwits on the planet, so it’s unlikely that they’re going to suddenly re-examine their decision making paradigm when instead they can just go for bigger and bigger desperate gambles attempting to turn everything around.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:34:56pm

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. Events aren’t being decided by what an intelligent and impartial observers thinks is likely happen with regard to his steadily failing approval numbers but what he and his team of dumbfucks want to happen. We’re dealing with the most intellectually incurious shitwits on the planet, so it’s unlikely that they’re going to suddenly re-examine their decision making paradigm when instead they can just go for bigger and bigger desperate gambles attempting to turn everything around.

And we all know how good a gambler Trump is, since he managed to go bankrupt running casinos.

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Nyet  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:36:34pm
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majii  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:36:57pm

re: #294 KGxvi

“I had an epiphany earlier today… Trump is the antithesis of Plato’s philosopher king. Incurious, petty, and too stupid to realize he’s not that smart.”

I just left the Raw Story site. RS has a post in which those who worked with Trump when he appeared on SNL are saying he was struggling to read his lines during rehearsal.

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Nyet  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:37:14pm
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Nyet  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:39:01pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:40:08pm

When I was a kid, I spent a summer at Gramma’s house, I figured because somebody didn’t want me around at home (my parents were going through a hairy divorce). I laid on the floor in front of the TV and watched the Watergate hearings. (OK, I was a weird kid.) I’m getting that ‘what did they know, and when did they know it’ feeling all over again.

Ah, youth. It sucked then, and it sucks now.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:40:25pm

re: #306 Nyet

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Coming soon to the United States. A film about control.

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:40:45pm

re: #297 451_Montag

I think deep down he knows he’s not smart, just a carnival barker. Hence the over compensation and attacks. It’s why he was always trying to get in with the NY monied gentry. He knows he’s a 2 bit racist grifter.

Frankly, I still doubt Hair Furor is that self-aware or self-critical.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #308 Nyet

Shit man, what did they want Obama to do?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:43:16pm

re: #313 electrotek

Shit man, what did they want Obama to do?

Everything.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:43:40pm

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Everything.

And nothing. Simultaneously.

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majii  Apr 6, 2017 • 3:46:45pm

re: #300 EPR-radar

“I still like my analysis that Trump is wingnut God.”
“The god of those shouty evangelical preachers with the big hair and the rent-boys on the side is not some sophisticated theological construct. A stupid and bad-tempered old man with more power than he should have is the perfect model for that god. Like everything else wingnuts do, it’s projection in action.”

Marvin Thompson, a former missionary, thinks something similar to what you think about evangelicals and why they voted for Trump in 2016. He blames it on their lack of knowledge about God and scripture and takes them to task for voting for a man whose every word and move/act in no way exemplifies Christian principles.

A short excerpt from his article:”Again, the worst in American voters speaks of those who empowered Trump. What made evangelicals bypass candidates with obvious biblical principles and more godly character for a man so devoid of those virtues? Alas, he appealed to their core values of character and morality. That is an indictment on evangelicals because their overt support validates and elevates his crassness and gutter character. The problem for evangelicals and the Church is convincing the world of sinners, skeptics, and cynics that there remains any abiding morality.”
blogs.christianpost.com

There is definitely a cult of personality on the Right in regard to Trump and a reverence for him while many of them claim at the same time that they “looove the Lord and Jesus.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2017 • 4:26:13pm

re: #301 EPR-radar

Trump should get no support from Democrats or the mushy middle for any foreign adventures that aren’t caused by something like Pearl Harbor Independence Day2.0.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2017 • 4:47:27pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

When I was a kid, I spent a summer at Gramma’s house, I figured because somebody didn’t want me around at home (my parents were going through a hairy divorce). I laid on the floor in front of the TV and watched the Watergate hearings. (OK, I was a weird kid.) I’m getting that ‘what did they know, and when did they know it’ feeling all over again.

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Ah, youth. It sucked then, and it sucks now.

My grandmother lived about six blocks from us. I went over frequently because I could watch the “Dialing for Dollars” afternoon TV movie there and have a coke (one of the little bottles). I remember the same thing. Everything was preempted by the Watergate hearings. We didn’t turn off the tv, but watched together instead. I remember John Dean clear as day.


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