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electrotek  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:27:13pm

Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate the U.S. military’s night raid on Shayrat Air Base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness to the strike.

-ABC News

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:32:13pm

What took so long. I haven’t seen anything from AquaBudda yet but the the issue is young.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:32:30pm

re: #1 electrotek

Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate the U.S. military’s night raid on Shayrat Air Base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness to the strike.

-ABC News

Translation: This was an absolutely pointless exercise. Casualties will be light if at all, materiel lost will be minimal, and the base will likely be back to normal operations in a matter of hours. Further lending weight to the idea that Trump did not order this attack because it would be a vital target, but because it was readily available and he needed something to distract the media’s attention.

Given the response so far, mission accomplished.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:38:30pm
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:40:08pm

Shit, not even the Bush administration invaded Afghanistan immediately after 9/11.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:42:04pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Translation: This was an absolutely pointless exercise. Casualties will be light if at all, materiel lost will be minimal, and the base will likely be back to normal operations in a matter of hours. Further lending weight to the idea that Trump did not order this attack because it would be a vital target, but because it was readily available and he needed something to distract the media’s attention.

Given the response so far, mission accomplished.

Two good points from Josh Marshall:

Chemical weapons are horrible. Most ways that civilians die in war are horrible. Yet we have legitimate, important reasons for creating norms that prevent the use of certain classes of weapons. Chemical weapons are high on that list. But if the events of the last few days take you from “hands off, not our problem” to “Assad needs to go” it’s hard to come to any other conclusion than that you simply weren’t paying attention until now.

and

There are arguments for intervention and restraint. But given what we know of Trump, it is highly uncertain that this is part of either approach. It may simply be blowing some stuff up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:42:07pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Yep, I’m sure Putin is thrilled about the oil price spike.

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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:42:41pm

Pro and anti-Trump people riled up over at Reddit, nearly 14,000 comments from armchair generals on what this strike did and what it means.
reddit.com

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:42:53pm

re: #1
We have moles in the Trump Administration that alerted the Russians of the upcoming airstrikes, who then alerted the Syrian government.

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weave  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:44:11pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

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The Trump lovers on “/r/the_donald” on Reddit are starting to lose faith too…

reddit.com

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:45:32pm

re: #10 weave

We warned them, we gave them explanations, they persisted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:46:16pm

Really, Russia benefits more than anyone from this.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:46:45pm

re: #6 BeachDem

Two good points from Josh Marshall:

Chemical weapons are horrible. Most ways that civilians die in war are horrible. Yet we have legitimate, important reasons for creating norms that prevent the use of certain classes of weapons. Chemical weapons are high on that list. But if the events of the last few days take you from “hands off, not our problem” to “Assad needs to go” it’s hard to come to any other conclusion than that you simply weren’t paying attention until now.

and

There are arguments for intervention and restraint. But given what we know of Trump, it is highly uncertain that this is part of either approach. It may simply be blowing some stuff up.

It’s blowing stuff up for the purpose of providing a distraction. It sure as fuck isn’t a humanitarian gesture, as Trump’s refugee ban remains in place. Nor is it about doing anything to remove Assad’s regime, else we would have done more than put a few dents in an airfield. No, this was about giving chicken hawks wood for a couple days.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:47:26pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:48:30pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Really, Russia benefits more than anyone from this.

Oil prices spike, Trump gets to look “tough,” and the media gets to take Russiagate off the front page for a few days to gush over this “humanitarian” act.

Need something to wash the taste of bile out of my mouth now.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:49:56pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

…this was about giving chicken hawks wood for a couple days.

And judging from my Twitter mentions, it worked. Big time. The Trump cult is super excited.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:51:08pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:51:20pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

And judging from my Twitter mentions, it worked. Big time. The Trump cult is super excited.

Ayep. Which is why we’ll see Trump’s poll numbers spike, because blowing up brown people is a national pasttime for these fuckers.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:51:43pm

Some of the less fanatical Trumpers are starting to have misgivings, but Trump’s base of delusional stupid people is loving the idea of bombing them some Syrians.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:52:19pm

Like I said, Trump accomplished next to nothing with his little flexing display.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:52:58pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

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Let’s be clear, Bill: If Mexico launched several dozen cruise missiles into sovereign American territory, it wouldn’t matter what the target was, we would interpret it as an act of war.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:55:32pm

Indeed, we killed more than this just the other week in Mosul, but Trump didn’t feel the need to bomb himself.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:55:39pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

Tweeting that to his dumbass in truncated form. Thanks for the mojo!

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 9:58:12pm
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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:03:36pm
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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:03:58pm

The combover regime has already aged me a good fifteen years.

Read that he was discussing allowing rich foreigners to buy citizenship for a million dollars. Fake news? I certainly hope so.

Hard to tell, because everything that has never been on the table is now on the table.

Every day it gets worse. I’m worried the damage will never be undone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:08:09pm

Nobody uses the word anymore, but if they were, you can just dambetcha the pundits would be calling this The Pivot.

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BigPapa  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:11:04pm

Just a month ago Tulsi Gabbard was in Syria talking to Assad, presumably at Trump’s beckoning.

What in the actual fuck is going on?

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:11:13pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:11:20pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

Nobody uses the word anymore, but if they were, you can just dambetcha the pundits would be calling this The Pivot.

They’ll present this as Trump shows how he’s “different” from Obama by taking unilateral action rather than consulting Congress or our allies and thus showing he’s a “leader.” And follow-up with Republicans rushing to justify Trump’s actions where they would have been demanding Obama’s head for even suggesting he’d bomb Syrian targets.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:15:18pm

The hits just keep on coming.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:16:34pm

re: #26 plansbandc

The combover regime has already aged me a good fifteen years.

Read that he was discussing allowing rich foreigners to buy citizenship for a million dollars. Fake news? I certainly hope so.

Hard to tell, because everything that has never been on the table is now on the table.

Every day it gets worse. I’m worried the damage will never be undone.

Hey, it worked for Murdoch—just ask Newt Gingrich.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:16:38pm

Oh, and don’t forget that the Bros are consoling themselves with Hillary’s comments from last year saying the way to deal with Syrian chemical weapon strikes was to hit the airfields. I doubt she meant she’d warn the Syrians first.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:17:19pm
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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:21:01pm

I was out all night, seeing an incredible show by Gogol Bordello (recommended af), and heard about this on the way home.

My first thought was ‘Welcome to Shooting a missile up a camel’s ass, the sequel.’

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:23:03pm

That one is predetermined
That one, it finds another
This one comes in one window
Sliding out the other
We need an instrument to take a measurement
To find out if loss could weigh
We need to know value
We need to place value
In case it all comes true
Could it be loss could weigh?
It’s always they that’s dying
But now it’s we that’s dying
So sooner comes the trying to understand that loss could weigh
We’ve been dragged through the fire
We bragged about that fire
But suddenly we’re tired
Could it be that loss could weigh?
Loss could weigh

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:28:57pm

re: #29 Kragar

Trump will have a great time with the fleshlight tonight.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:32:49pm
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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:38:27pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:40:27pm

$75-100 million worth of ordnance, for this.

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Wile E. Coyote's mom  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:42:41pm

Just came over my FB feed. Nice little short. We need it to keep from kicking a hole in a wall somewhere.

boredpanda.com

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:44:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:55:59pm

re: #39 Kragar

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Reminds me of the after party scene in Rollerball where they’re all bored and blowing up a bunch of trees with a dressed up Ruger Standard pistol.

Rollerball afterparty

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:57:42pm

Another far left asshole heard from.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 10:57:56pm
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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:05:10pm

Jard Kushner Goes to Iraq: A Picture Story (goes to Task and Purpose)

Basically put together with the text you might read in a child’s book.

Task & Purpose is not really a fan of Trump.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:10:01pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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Keep that in mind the next time you hear Mulvaney tells us that Americans can’t be expected to pay for social safety net programs.

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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:16:22pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

Keep that in mind the next time you hear Mulvaney tells us that Americans can’t be expected to pay for social safety net programs.

We can’t. We have to replace all those cruise missiles we just used. - Granny-starving Republicans.

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BigPapa  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:18:45pm

re: #46 Anymouse

@AdamWeinstein

He’s a blast for sure.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:25:36pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:25:54pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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Just 20 of these bug-mashers would buy you a SpaceX Falcon 9 shot. Payload 50,265 pounds to LEO, almost enough to put the 20 Tomahawks into Earth orbit. Perhaps I should stop there, don’t want to give Trump ideas.

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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:26:52pm
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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:28:27pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:31:14pm

Remember: Hillary was the real warmonger

Remember: This was not war, but a precision strike.

Remember: we can bomb the shit out of Syria, but they cannot come here as refugees because we are afraid of terrorism.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:32:51pm

Remember when we were told that State was full of peacemongers who wanted to avoid war at all costs?

Yeah, about that…

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:37:16pm

So, it appears that Twitler has not done an Operation Barbarossa on Stali-putin after all.

The Russians green-lighted the attack so their bud Trump could look tough and distance himself from the Russiagate charges. They gave their other bud, Assad, enough warning to hold damage to a minimum, probably just some craters, a ramshackle building or two, and a few dead conscripts. Russia will compensate him for the damage, such as it is. In return, Russia gets an increase in oil prices, a re-vitalized stooge in the White House, and a more compliant Assad.
Come to think of it, Hitler and Stalin could have taken lessons from these two.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:38:31pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:40:32pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel

Come to think of it, Hitler and Stalin could have taken lessons from these two.

Oh God, I remember those magical years from summer of ‘39 to ‘41, when you could be a fan of both Hitler and Stalin at once…I hate it when my favorite scoundrels have a falling out and you have to take sides in the issue…

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:42:23pm
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Kragar  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:46:11pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:46:51pm

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh God, I remember those magical years from summer of ‘39 to ‘41, when you could be a fan of both Hitler and Stalin at once…I hate it when my favorite scoundrels have a falling out and you have to take sides in the issue…

Hitler was the Mozart of treachery for being able to take the famously paranoid Stalin by surprise and stab him in the back. I am convinced this is the real reason many losers and evil types admire Hitler so much, it is not is spite of his evil, but because of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:53:59pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel

Hitler was the Mozart of treachery for being able to take the famously paranoid Stalin by surprise and stab him in the back. I am convinced this is the real reason many losers and evil types admire Hitler so much, it is not is spite of his evil, but because of it.

Read an interesting analysis of why Stalin was not worried about a German invasion: he had spies and agents watching German refineries with orders to report back if there was any sign that the Germans were starting to turn out large amounts of winter-grade lubricants.

And he had people keeping an eye on the herds of sheep and the textile mils to report if they were starting to turn out large volumes of woolen socks and underwear. because only a madman would invade Russia with summer-grade oil and light clothing…

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:54:42pm

..on a lighter note it’s still snowing in the Sierra. We’re over 32 inches of rain in the east bay, after getting over an inch tonight.

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Anymouse  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:56:24pm
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BigPapa  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:57:24pm

re: #63 Single-handed sailor

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2017 • 11:57:51pm

re: #63 Single-handed sailor

Facebook Post

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:00:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:04:20am

re: #67 Anymouse

She voted for Bevin who promised to repeal the program saving her son. “I guess I’m just a die-hard Republican,” she chuckled.

now her son is, too…

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:09:00am
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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:09:27am
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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:10:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:13:30am

re: #71 teleskiguy

Sens. McCain and Graham, in joint statement, urge Americans to rally around President in wake of U.S. attack on Syria

because those who don’t are unpatriotic losers…

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:21:23am

And now the next act in the play:

Vlad must be absolutely loving this. He gets to look like the reasonable guy on the world stage.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:21:29am
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:23:44am

re: #65 BigPapa

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:24:11am

re: #73 Targetpractice

And now the next act in the play:

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Vlad must be absolutely loving this. He gets to look like the reasonable guy on the world stage.

This performance was probably Putin’s idea in the first place.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:24:16am

re: #71 teleskiguy

Hey McCain, still smarting about Donald Trump saying he liked veterans who weren’t captured?

Since I was never captured, does that mean Mr. Trump holds me in higher esteem than you?

And yet, you joined the human centipede Trump Train even after he disparaged your service and Gold Star Families.

You sir are an opportunist. My senator Ben Sasse has more principles than you in his little finger, and he was never in the service (and he defended you against Mr. Trump’s slurs).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:24:16am

re: #73 Targetpractice

BREAKING: Kremlin says U.S. strike on Syria is “aggression against sovereign state in violation of international law.”

Remember, American Exceptionalism means that we do not have to obey international law when it is in our interest not to do so.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:25:40am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, American Exceptionalism means that we do not have to obey international law when it is in our interest not to do so.

American Exceptionalism means claiming the law says we can attack Syria without warning because WMDs, but not bothering to…you know…actually jusitfy that action by going through the necessary channels.

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BigPapa  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:33:33am

re: #75 Single-handed sailor

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:40:00am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, American Exceptionalism means that we do not have to obey international law when it is in our interest not to do so.

Liberals need to take back the term “American Exceptionalism” from the nihilists libertarian conservatives.

American exceptionalism in my mind is the idea that (though rarely implemented fairly) any person can be born here or come here and improve their situation. The ideas that all men (and women) are created equal. The idea we are endowed with inalienable rights.

All those things conservatism throughout history has rejected.

While we’re at it, maybe we can grab back “pro-life” as well. It is a shame the movement for reproductive rights didn’t grab that one first.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:48:33am

Shit’s escalating.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:50:32am

re: #81 Anymouse

American exceptionalism in my mind is the idea that (though rarely implemented fairly) any person can be born here or come here and improve their situation. The ideas that all men (and women) are created equal. The idea we are endowed with inalienable rights.

All those things conservatism throughout history has rejected.

We just had a President who did not come from any sort of wealth of privilege, who got where he did through hard work and ambition. Conservatives could have held him up as proof of American Exceptionalism and that our system works: anyone who tries hard enough can achieve the highest public office in the land regardless of race or origins.

But that would have meant acknowledging his accomplishments, however begrudgingly, and that was just too much for those jackasses.

Instead we got an endless stream of arguments that he was not legally qualified, that he was a Kenyan Muslim usurper, or at best a coddled affirmative-action baby who got voted in because of liberal guilt and/or people who voted (illegally) in exchange for Free Government Stuff.

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Kragar  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:51:58am
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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2017 • 12:54:28am

Yeah, imagine my surprise that the GOP suddenly forgets all their outrage over a president going over their heads to begin the whole “rally round the flag” bullshit.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:04:15am

Of note, it is unlikely that Chinese President Xi will be interested in golf at Mar-a-Lago:

scmp.com (Goes to the South China Morning Post):

More at SCMP:

China has ordered the closure of a sixth of the country’s golf courses since 2011, its top economic planner said, in an ongoing crackdown on a sport that is controversial for its links with the wealthy elite.

The ruling Communist Party has an ambivalent relationship with golf.

Local authorities have profited from selling land for courses, but they are seen as venues for shady deal-making between the elite and politicians.

Central authorities ordered a nationwide freeze on new golf courses in 2004, which was largely ignored.

Since a fresh crackdown was launched in 2011, 111 of China’s 683 golf courses nationwide had been ordered to shut, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), the central planning agency, said in a statement posted on its website on Sunday.

Operators had voluntarily closed an additional 11 golf course, it added.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:07:18am

re: #86 Anymouse

No doubt a discussion about a minimum of ONE new golf course will occur…or at least one of the closed ones put under new TREMENDOUS management.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:10:50am

re: #87 I cannot.

No doubt a discussion about a minimum of ONE new golf course will occur…or at least one of the closed ones put under new TREMENDOUS management.

Only if it is in the name of international diplomacy…

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:14:57am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

International diplomacy? Is THAT what the kids are calling it nowadays?

///

And get off my lawn.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:17:54am

Michele Bachmann:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:18:32am

re: #90 Anymouse

Michele Bachmann thinks Trump’s opponents are hastening the coming of the Antichrist

I thought these guys were looking forward to the Second Coming…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:22:18am

I just watched Independence Day: Resurgence and I feel physically wounded, it’s probably the worst movie I’ve ever seen.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:24:58am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Oh god…I probably shouldn’t ask this, but how could it be THAT bad?

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:25:20am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought these guys were looking forward to the Second Coming…

Only when conservatives can rush it in. If liberals are rushing it in, they are tools of Satan.

There is a reason I’ve never been either religious nor a conservative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:25:34am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

I just watched Independence Day: Resurgence and I feel physically wounded, it’s probably the worst movie I’ve ever seen.

I watched the original without any expectation of anything but cool CGI effects and was not too terribly disappointed, but see no need for a remake.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:26:32am

re: #94 Anymouse

Only when conservatives can rush it in. If liberals are rushing it in, they are tools of Satan.

There is a reason I’ve never been either religious nor a conservative.

One can be religious without believing in ancient superstitions. Just don’t try and tell that to a fundamentalist literalist.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:27:28am

And conservatives really aren’t looking for a Second Coming either. That’s the “hook” part to get (R) votes. The “sinker” part is when they take away things like healthcare and Social Security to send them to their Heavenly reward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:28:49am

re: #97 Anymouse

And conservatives really aren’t looking for a Second Coming either. That’s the “hook” part to get (R) votes. The “sinker” part is when they take away things like healthcare and Social Security to send them to their Heavenly reward.

The only reason that many of them support Israel has nothing to do with support for the Jewish people who actually live there, it is just that a restored Jerusalem is necessary to fulfill their End Times prophecies.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:29:25am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One can be religious without believing in ancient superstitions. Just don’t try and tell that to a fundamentalist literalist.

Well, unless we’re talking about things like Mormonism or such, they are all ancient superstitions. It just depends on which superstition you cherry-pick.

“Genesis was figurative, not literal, but everything Jesus said was true (except there is no evidence for Jesus and he also endorsed slavery and such… .)”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:30:58am

re: #99 Anymouse

Well, unless we’re talking about things like Mormonism or such, they are all ancient superstitions. It just depends on which superstition you cherry-pick.

“Genesis was figurative, not literal, but everything Jesus said was true (except there is no evidence for Jesus and he also endorsed slavery and such… .)”

I was about to change that to “primitive” superstitions…

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IngisKahn  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:32:52am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You’ve really got me fuming under my colander here.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:33:42am

re: #101 IngisKahn

You’ve really got me fuming under my colander here.

Bless her horny hooves, the FSM is a false god! /s

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IngisKahn  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:35:27am

re: #101 IngisKahn

Hmm, on second thought, that should be steaming under my colander…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:37:58am

re: #103 IngisKahn

Hmm, on second thought, that should be steaming under my colander…

steaming cauliflower?

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IngisKahn  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:41:40am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever Hello Fresh deems me worthy.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:42:11am

My wife is reading Yelp reviews about Mar-a-Lago (currently rated at two stars). The reviews are a hoot.

For example:

This place is the most over-priced mediocre golf club ever. They doubled their initiation fee and it seems pretty obvious Trump is using his new position to cash in. Disgusting for a President to continue profiting off of his constituents. We checked it out and even spoke with current members who stated that they were disappointed with accommodations in comparison to other local properties for the price- and someone mentioned a fire ant problem on some of the greens, food being less than excellent and rude staff members. It’s pretty obvious that your paying for the Trump name, not exceptionally wonderful accommodations.

yelp.com

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:42:32am

Even the media seems, now that we’re getting a picture of the futility of this strike, to be coming around to a recognition that we just blew our wad for no appreciable gain besides some impotent fist shaking at Assad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:47:12am

re: #106 Anymouse

My wife is reading Yelp reviews about Mar-a-Lago (currently rated at two stars). The reviews are a hoot.

For example:

yelp.com

I really think that the SS would be justified in telling Trump that they cannot guarantee his safety and security at M-a-L unless he closes it to the general public during his visits there.

Not that they would…

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:50:24am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really think that the SS would be justified in telling Trump that they cannot guarantee his safety and security at M-a-L unless he closes it to the general public during his visits there.

Not that they would…

That might just give him an excuse to bring in Betsy DeVos’s brother’s Blackwater XE Academi.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:52:23am

re: #109 Anymouse

That might just give him an excuse to bring in Betsy DeVos’s brother’s Blackwater XE Academi.

at his own expense, then

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:52:36am
But, Trump’s push to slim the government may contradict a years-long effort to make DoD more efficient.

The federal hiring freeze, which was meant to trim wasteful positions in government, is having an impact on DoD’s ability to audit incurred costs in contracts.

Incurred cost audits look into claims from companies working for DoD. Some costs are reimbursable under a company’s contract with DoD. The Defense Contract Audit Agency looks into those contracts to make sure they are up to snuff.

“It is absolutely an issue for us because we came into [2017] lower on our end strength than we needed to complete the work we had planned for this year and we were under a hiring freeze in [2016] as a result of the 2016 defense authorization act,” Anita Bales, director of the DCAA told the House Armed Services Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee April 6.

federalnewsradio.com

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:54:04am

The Bureau of Land Management Website is down:

blm.gov

Page Not Found

Sorry, the content you are looking for is not found

There was an error processing your request and/or the requested resource was not found.

Please click here to return to the home page at blm.gov or try the search box above

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 1:56:06am

re: #112 Anymouse

Bannon probably thought it was for blacklivesmatter DOT gov

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:04:26am

re: #112 Anymouse

The Bureau of Land Management Website is down:

blm.gov

Their main page is working for me. Did they redesign and mess up bookmarked links?

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:06:27am

Trump Tipped Off Australia before Launching Syria Strike (goes to the Sydney Morning Herald - more at the link):

Russia has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss the missile strikes, accusing the US of preparing the attack before civilians were killed by gas in Idlib.

In a statement, the Russian Foreign Ministry said the action by the United States was “thoughtless”.

Russia has also suspended a Syrian air safety agreement with the United States in the wake of the strike.

“This is not the first time the United States has resorted to such a thoughtless step, which merely exacerbates existing problems and threatens global security,” the ministry said.

The ministry said it is clear the missile strike was prepared before the latest gas attack.

Earlier, the Kremlin denied Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the chemical attack, saying the Syrian army doesn’t have chemical weapons.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:09:00am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Their main page is working for me. Did they redesign and mess up bookmarked links?

I have it working now. It would appear they replaced their photo of hikers on the home page with a picture of a coal face. (Marvy.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:10:09am

re: #116 Anymouse

I have it working now. It would appear they replaced their photo of hikers on the home page with a picture of a coal face. (Marvy.)

because it’s all about high-paid jobs with benefits for people with little education or training.

and unicorns that shit gold dust

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:17:23am

Off topic: State E-mail received saying I passed my state water operator school examination in the “top third” of the class.

(I am not sure what that means - Could be #1, could be #20. I don’t necessarily think I would want a physician that passed in the “top third” of a class - the same goes for drinking water. I guess I’ll see when I get the final results.)

Now I have to pass a Homeland Security background check, which I’m guessing shouldn’t be too hard for them due to my military clearance. They only need to check what I’ve been up to since 1996 (and all the countries I’ve been to and why I have such a squeaky clean criminal record I’ve never even gotten a parking ticket in my whole life - that’s pretty suspicious).

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:21:54am

Trump pulls his handshake nonsense on President Xi.

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:37:41am

From over at RawStory comments under the article: Studies confirm: Trump voters were motivated by racial prejudice — not ‘economic anxiety’

BrooklynChickLovesLiberty • 14 hours ago
It’s simple. America’s race based cast system is crumbling, and many white people (especially the mediocre ones) are having a hard time coming to terms with that.

Those in the between lands need to move to where jobs are, educate themselves (vote Dem!), or vote for universal wage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 2:43:11am

re: #120 Ming5000

From over at RawStory comments under the article: Studies confirm: Trump voters were motivated by racial prejudice — not ‘economic anxiety’

Those in the between lands need to move to where jobs are, educate themselves (vote Dem!), or vote for universal wage.

The traditional job of a politician was to ensure an abundance of well paid jobs with benefits for people with minimal skills and education. Naturally, these factory, mining and construction jobs were to be reserved for whites, with blacks and Latinos doing the menial service jobs.

And that, I am sure was a major motivation for them voting for Trump,: he promised to bring back those “good old days”.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 3:49:24am

re: #120 Ming5000

From over at RawStory comments under the article: Studies confirm: Trump voters were motivated by racial prejudice — not ‘economic anxiety’

Those in the between lands need to move to where jobs are, educate themselves (vote Dem!), or vote for universal wage.

You paying for me to move? How about a college education for a fifty-six year old vet? And who would hire me after I graduated from college?

This whole “you should move and get education” is a really tone-deaf argument I don’t care much for from liberals.

How about this programme instead? The Democratic Party invests in building up the party in places like this and actually runs candidates for every seat, rather than hunkering down in a few states and becoming a regional party. (Like it or not, the Electoral College ensures square miles get votes. Democrats need to compete for all the square miles, not just the ones they currently control.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:02:08am

re: #122 Anymouse

You paying for me to move? How about a college education for a fifty-six year old vet? And who would hire me after I graduated from college?

This whole “you should move and get education” is a really tone-deaf argument I don’t care much for from liberals.

Like it or not, the Electoral College ensures square miles get votes. Democrats need to compete for all the square miles, not just the ones they currently control.

There is no chance of the EC being abolished or even reformed to correspond to each state’s share of the population instead of its representation in congress, so if the Dems want to turn their votes on the ground into seats in Congress and the White House, they need a real “ground game”.

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:26:18am

re: #122 Anymouse

I agree with you. The Dems focus on programs for people to better their situations. I would support programs to help those in need move to employment. I support affordable college programs.

I don’t see Trumpers clammering for help to improve their situations. In fact, they vote against their own self interests.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:27:51am

re: #124 Ming5000

I agree with you. The Dems focus on programs for people to better their situations. I would support programs to help those in need move to employment. I support affordable college programs.

I don’t see Trumpers clammering for help to improve their situations. In fact, they vote against their own self interests.

Yes, I recall a time when it was possible to attend a state university and graduate without staggering debt.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:29:07am

re: #67 Anymouse

She voted for Bevin who promised to repeal the program saving her son. “I guess I’m just a die-hard Republican,” she chuckled.

Now her son will just die hard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:29:28am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I recall a time when it was possible to attend a state university and graduate without staggering debt. Or working breadwinners to be able to afford to send their kids to college.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:33:49am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I graduated from Pitt 40 years ago. When I started in 1973, tuition was $475 a trimester and the dorm charge was also $475. By 1977 both were $600. Now it’s over 10 times that amount.

My total Student Loan balance when I graduated was $8,250. Now we hired kids with 20 times that amount.

Republicans have made it clear they want to keep people out of college, keep them stupid enough to fall for fools like Trump.

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:33:52am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good point on breadwinners being able to afford (fill in blank). Trumpers are thinking about bringing back jobs that somehow, magically, will match the pay rates at union plants before globalization.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:35:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:37:55am

re: #129 Ming5000

Good point on breadwinners being able to afford (fill in blank). Trumpers are thinking about bringing back jobs that somehow, magically, will match the pay rates at union plants before globalization.

While crushing unions.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:38:08am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Now her son will just die hard.

As I said yesterday, it’s time for these low-information voters to suffer. I won’t shed a tear for these people any longer. My empathy and sympathy has dried up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:45:53am

Tulsi was BFFs with Assad and now she wants to kill him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:48:11am

re: #132 Dr. Matt

As I said yesterday, it’s time for these low-information voters to suffer. I won’t shed a tear for these people any longer. My empathy and sympathy has dried up.

Shame that their idiocy is also causing others to suffer…

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:52:11am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shame that their idiocy is also causing others to suffer…

The maddening thing is that these fools are so brainwashed by right wing Christians that they believe they will be raptured up to heaven in a couple weeks, just like that asshole Bachman said posted above.

They really do believe they will get pie in the sky when they die as long as they follow their Corporate masters and vote Republican.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 4:59:26am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shame that their idiocy is also causing others to suffer…

Republican mantra: I’ve got mine, so fuck you…. and even if I don’t have mine, still fuck you

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:03:40am

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Republican mantra: I’ve got mine, so fuck you…. and even if I don’t have mine, still fuck you

…and Gawd bless you!

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:07:41am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Tulsi was BFFs with Assad and now she wants to kill him.

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The ICC doesn’t have the power to impose a death sentence.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:11:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:13:10am

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

Be careful what you tweet. It can come back to bite you!

Does not apply; he was talking about our arrogant black President, not our current one!

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:18:50am

This made me laugh: GMA put in their scroll at the bottom that Trump tweeted in 2013 that it would be a mistake for Obama to attack Syria.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:19:00am

re: #132 Dr. Matt

As I said yesterday, it’s time for these low-information voters to suffer. I won’t shed a tear for these people any longer. My empathy and sympathy has dried up.

And then you have to deal with people like this when they call. They tell us that they cannot get any Medical assistance. All we can do is refer them to private charity. And then they respond, “How come them colored folks can always get help”?

LBJ was so correct about this!

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steve_davis  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:26:25am

re: #99 Anymouse

Well, unless we’re talking about things like Mormonism or such, they are all ancient superstitions. It just depends on which superstition you cherry-pick.

“Genesis was figurative, not literal, but everything Jesus said was true (except there is no evidence for Jesus and he also endorsed slavery and such… .)”

there is no evidence for Jesus, except for that whole multiple gospels thing, unless you honestly believe that the second-generation of Christians managed to find a whole bunch of deluded old-timers who spun a good yarn about having once traveled with a guy named Joshua ben Joseph, a.k.a. Jesus of Nazareth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:32:55am

re: #143 steve_davis

there is no evidence for Jesus, except for that whole multiple gospels thing, unless you honestly believe that the second-generation of Christians managed to find a whole bunch of deluded old-timers who spun a good yarn about having once traveled with a guy named Joshua ben Joseph, a.k.a. Jesus of Nazareth.

I do not have much reason to doubt that such a figure existed or even did some of the things attributed to him but a lot of the rest the rest has to regarded as a combination of hearsay, legend and out-and-out fabrication.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:34:16am

Only 98,000 new jobs in March. So President Asshole and Fox News will say that’s Obama’s fault!

marketwatch.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:34:55am

re: #145 Joe Bacon

Only 98,000 new jobs in March. So President Asshole and Fox news will say that’s Obama’s fault!

marketwatch.com

or that the figures are fake and unreliable…or whatever.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:38:01am

Op-Ed What we know, and don’t know, about Bill O’Reilly

Next, none of the companies that have stopped advertising on O’Reilly’s show has promised to stop advertising on Fox. They have, as far as I can tell, just moved their accounts to other Fox shows. According to a statement from Paul Rittenberg, the network’s executive vice president for ad sales, “the ad buys of those clients have been re-expressed into other programs” on Fox.

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b.d.  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:38:26am

re: #145 Joe Bacon

Only 98,000 new jobs in March. So President Asshole and Fox News will say that’s Obama’s fault!

marketwatch.com

They will blame it on Obama even though, last month, they took credit on a good report.

Lying scumbags

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:38:41am

re: #147 Birth Control Works

Op-Ed What we know, and don’t know, about Bill O’Reilly

It’s the same shtick they did with Beck.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:45:48am

I created a new Facebook Page. It’s a place to buy t-shirts and read science news.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:46:06am

re: #148 b.d.

They will blame it on Obama even though, last month, they took credit on a good report.

Lying scumbags

And the fact that the UE dropped two notches will go unremarked upon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:49:32am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:50:58am

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

“Dear future me…”

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:51:24am

re: #128 Joe Bacon

I graduated from Pitt 40 years ago. When I started in 1973, tuition was $475 a trimester and the dorm charge was also $475. By 1977 both were $600. Now it’s over 10 times that amount.

My total Student Loan balance when I graduated was $8,250. Now we hired kids with 20 times that amount.

Republicans have made it clear they want to keep people out of college, keep them stupid enough to fall for fools like Trump.

We got done paying off my wife’s Sallie Mae student loan for her computer science and business administration degrees from University of Florida and DeVry last year.

She went to college in the Eighties.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:52:45am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s like all of the Trump Train’s Twitter feeds were created for the purpose of trolling their future selves…

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:54:03am

re: #1 electrotek

Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate the U.S. military’s night raid on Shayrat Air Base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness to the strike.

-ABC News

This is the equivalent of hitting empty tents in the desert, if that’s accurate.

The Trump admin needed to show action, so they lobbed dozens of cruise missiles at a Syrian airfield.

Woo.

At $2+ million a pop, we’re talking more than $100 million to help Islamic State and al Qaeda.

Wait. What?

Yeah, you read that right.

Attacking Assad’s air force helps Islamic State and Nursa Front (aka al Qaeda’s offshoot). One of the few things Assad has over his enemies is that he’s got an air force that he uses to lob weapons, including gas, to destroy, maim, and kill.

He’s used those airfields in his war that has killed upwards of 400,000 people so far.

This is the thing about intervening in a civil war where all the sides are awful. There are no good outcomes here.

Assad’s repeatedly engaged in democide - killing of populations so as to remain in power (not exactly the same as genocide, since it’s based on politics, not religion, ethnicity, or race per se). Hitting his air force helps his rivals so that they’re less likely to be hit by those aircraft. That means Islamic State benefited from Trump knocking down Assad’s air force even just a bit. Disrupting Assad’s forces helps Islamic State.

Likewise, if you go after Islamic State and Nursa Front, you’re helping Assad since the butcher of Damascus gets to consolidate and remain in power that much longer.

Russia wins here too, since they’re the ones supplying weapons (even if you blow up the stuff on the ground, Assad’s gonna need more stuff, and he’s not getting it from the US).

Add in the spillover effect, and that Trump hasn’t gamed this out beyond the airstrikes, and you see how short sighted this was, and why acting impetuously is what Trump does, and he doesn’t care about the consequences.

Oh, speaking of consequences, anyone want to take bets on whether Kushner gets booted for lying on his security clearance forms. This isn’t some inadvertent nonsense either. This is the kind of thing that ends your career.

But Mr. Kushner did not mention dozens of contacts with foreign leaders or officials in recent months. They include a December meeting with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, and one with the head of a Russian state-owned bank, Vnesheconombank, arranged at Mr. Kislyak’s behest.

Dozens of contacts and meetings. All omitted. You lie on this form, you’re likely to be lying on a lot of other things too. His lawyer (Jaime Gorelick), says that this was inadvertent stuff. I’m not so sure.

All these inadvertent misrepresentations all flow in one direction - lying about contacts with Russians.

This many coincidences isn’t a coincidence. It would appear to be enemy action.

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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:54:04am

I’m off to bed. My computer is whinging it wants a restart anyway, and my anti-virus program borked about ninety minutes ago. Catch y’all later …

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:56:22am
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Anymouse  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:56:46am

re: #156 lawhawk

Nope. Kushner won’t be booted. GOP is always about party before country.

They didn’t boot Sessions about lying in his confirmation hearing (I believe lying before Congress is supposed to be a career-ender too), they didn’t boot Gorsuch over plagiarism …

What’s a little security clearance problem between fascists?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:57:46am

re: #158 lawhawk

But when I’m president, I’ll bomb an airfield from which Assad attacks Islamic State and Nursa Front. Which means, I’m helping who? Wait?

“But it’s okay, because I will tip off the Russians, who will advise the Syrians to evacuate the airfield before we dump $70 million dollars’ worth of ordinance on it…”

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:59:11am

20 aircraft supposedly destroyed in the raid. That’s 20 aircraft Assad was using in his fight against Islamic State and Nursa Front. Heckuva job there Trump-y.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 7, 2017 • 5:59:53am

Alt-right to Trump: Cuck-a-doodle Don’t!?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:01:13am

bbl all

have a great day

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:02:06am

re: #142 Joe Bacon

And then you have to deal with people like this when they call. They tell us that they cannot get any Medical assistance. All we can do is refer them to private charity. And then they respond, “How come them colored folks can always get help”?

LBJ was so correct about this!

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LBJ was a southerner, a fairly poor one in origin. He knew that as well as anyone because he saw it with his own two eyes.

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jeffreyw  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:03:57am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:05:19am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

LBJ was a southerner, a fairly poor one in origin. He knew that as well as anyone because he saw it with his own two eyes.

The British did the same thing with Ulstermen and Irish in Northern Ireland.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:06:06am

Trump will visit China.

scmp.com

I doubt I will have time to see him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:10:01am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The British did the same thing with Ulstermen and Irish in Northern Ireland.

Yeah doesn’t surprise me. It’s an old as government itself tactic.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:12:51am

re: #156 lawhawk

To quote George W. Bush (of all people), “I’m not gonna fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.”

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b.d.  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:14:29am

re: #161 lawhawk

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20 aircraft supposedly destroyed in the raid. That’s 20 aircraft Assad was using in his fight against Islamic State and Nursa Front. Heckuva job there Trump-y.

Trump may not be a founder of ISIS but he is bucking for a seat on their board.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:17:09am

re: #169 Timothy Watson

These are strange times we’re in.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:22:43am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:25:18am

re: #172 lawhawk

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Agh not again.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:31:15am

Still not sorry we attacked that base.

CNN
In a regular call with reporters, Peskov added that it was “indisputable” that the US airstrike on Syria “was carried out for the benefit of ISIS and other terrorist organizations.”

The one man less attached to reality than Donald Trump speaks.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:34:09am

re: #174 Unshaken Defiance

Least bad option is still a bad option.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:35:50am

re: #175 lawhawk

A shit sandwich with BBQ sauce is still a shit sandwich, but at least it has BBQ sauce.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:37:12am

re: #175 lawhawk

Least bad option is still a bad option.

I agree. I’m surprised the Russians did not shoot down a bunch of the missiles. Imagine being the officer at the SAM facility near that base and being told stand down. Is it next week NK has some big day that looks good to celebrate with another nuke test? Trump gonna make preppers of us all.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:40:53am

re: #177 Unshaken Defiance

Surface to Air Missiles don’t do well against CM…….. They fly too low.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:48:42am

re: #172 lawhawk

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Video Coverage in Swedish: expressen.se

Local English Speaking Media: thelocal.se

There are reports of shots fired in connection with this just north of my location. Breaking out cams, will be attentive to what happens on the street outside.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:48:59am

re: #178 Dave In Austin

Surface to Air Missiles don’t do well against CM…….. They fly too low.

I did not even sleep in a Holiday Inn last night but the S-300 (which is for sale) claims excellent performance against subsonic terrain following targets.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:50:08am

re: #179 Teukka

Video Coverage in Swedish: expressen.se

Local English Speaking Media: thelocal.se

[Embedded content]

There are reports of shots fired in connection with this just north of my location. Breaking out cams, will be attentive to what happens on the street outside.

At leat 2 dead according to RPS/Säk (security service). SVT (public broadcaster) is reporting at least 5 dead.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:52:59am

re: #177 Unshaken Defiance

Depends on the point defense systems that Assad has, particularly at the base targeted. Older SAM systems, like the SA-3, SA-7, SA-11, which are widely used by Syria have limited efficiency against cruise missiles.

The newer Russian S-300 and S-400 have claimed capabilities against cruise missiles. Assad may not have that much in the way of those.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:53:10am
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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:53:43am

re: #181 Teukka

At leat 2 dead according to RPS/Säk (security service). SVT (public broadcaster) is reporting at least 5 dead.

(c) 2017 by aftonbladet.se
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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:53:43am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:57:16am

re: #184 Teukka

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What’s the branding on the truck?

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 6:58:32am

The end of Vietnam didn’t save Nixon. The first Gulf War didn’t save Bush 1. What saved Bush 2 was that we were attacked on continental soil.

And we can talk about multiple things at once.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:06:02am

re: #186 Timothy Watson

What’s the branding on the truck?

Some brewery.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:06:25am

re: #90 Anymouse

That’s a good thing, right? Isn’t that the wet dream of people like her?

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KerFuFFler  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:11:05am

From a comment thread at Lawyers, Guns & Money:

……. Syria isn’t actually the point here. Trumpsky doesn’t give a hot squat about Assad, rebels (of any variety) or, frankly, anyone but himself & his immediate family (to the extent that he sees them as an extension of himself.

The key here, as with all things Trumpsky-related, is Russia, Russia, Russia. Tonight’s action should be understood as PRETEXT. Russia wants those sanctions lifted. Wants that desperately. This is the primary reason Trumpsky was installed in the White House. Trumpsky, unfortunately (for both his Russian puppet-masters & for us) is a ridiculous idiot. He quickly made lifting the sanctions politically less tenable than ever.

Thus, the pretext. Where do we suppose Assad got the chemical weapons he used? From Russia, of course. Trumpsky (after defending Assad as recently as last week) then gets instructed to lob some missiles at a target that will look legit, but not make any real strategic difference on the ground. Got to create the appearance of a “conflict” between Trumpsky & his good pal, the dictator Putin.

Now, send Suckretary of State Tex Drillerson (R - Exxon) to Moscow. Time for the “art of the deal”. What to expect: a dramatic announcement of an arrangement whereby, in exchange for us lifting the sanctions, Putin “helps” us reign in his (other) puppet, Assad. The Trumpsky regime makes a deal, saves the day, avoids a Mid-East war; Trumpsky’s a hero. Greatest President* ever! Poll numbers rise.

This has been the primary end game all along. Trumpsky is made President* & Putin gets the sanctions lifted (& Exxon gets to go ahead with their trillion $ deal with their Russian oil partners).

Quid. Pro. Quo. The fix was in already; all that was required was a pretext to get the US establishment to fall in line. Pay no attention to moose and squirrel.

See treason, say treason. :(

Intriguing analysis

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:11:43am

TFW You’ve made a batch of cottage cheese…by leaving the milk out

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:13:32am

Pretty much how I feel

SSDD

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:13:33am

The “Failing” NY Times keeps hoping that Trump will stop calling them “Fake News”
On Syria Attack, Trump’s Heart Came First

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:14:15am
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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:15:39am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

LBJ was a southerner, a fairly poor one in origin. He knew that as well as anyone because he saw it with his own two eyes.

LBJ was a master of political science.

He had his faults, but he did understand human nature.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:18:22am

Possibly 1 arrested in connection with Stockholm terror attack.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:19:03am
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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:19:13am

re: #192 Birth Control Works

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:19:53am

re: #190 KerFuFFler

From a comment thread at Lawyers, Guns & Money:

Intriguing analysis

The only flaw is that it would require Trump and Company to have planned to give Assad enough rope to shoot himself in the foot with by implying that they don’t care what Assad does to get him to do something like an attack. They aren’t that coordinated.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:20:02am
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nines09  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:30:04am

Would it be interesting to discover what type of ordinance was on those Tomahawks? High explosive or cluster or percentage of either….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:31:22am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart

Tens of millions of dollars in airstrikes had no impact because key leaders fled after hearing ON NEWS REPORTS the strikes were coming. DUMB

what the fucking fuck is he trying to tell us?

that the press knows things that the syrians don’t?

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:36:40am
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:38:26am

And now for a short break from the world’s calamities…
to the wonders of nature

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:39:24am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

The “Failing” NY Times keeps hoping that Trump will stop calling them “Fake News”
On Syria Attack, Trump’s Heart Came First

Well that was a truly nauseating read:

Donald J. Trump has always taken pride in his readiness to act on instinct, whether in real estate or reality television. On Thursday, an emotional President Trump took the greatest risk of his young presidency…In truth, it was an emotional act by a man suddenly aware that the world’s problems were now his — and that turning away, to him, was not an option…It was difficult to reconcile the anguished president with the snarky critic of American engagement…

The yam cries crocodile tears and the NYT buys it, hook, line and sinker.

(he still won’t respect you in the morning guys.)

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:41:26am

And, the marvels of civil engineering

Stad Ship Tunnel - Wikipedia

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:42:30am
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:47:02am

re: #175 lawhawk

Least bad option is still a bad option.

Hillary Clinton: US should ‘take out’ Assad’s air fields

We still have this to contemplate. Trump did less than Pres. Clinton would have. Since the Russians were warned we can assume the Syrians got the warning within minutes.

I saw one unfortunate headline-“Missiles launched from Mar A Lago” rather than missile strike ordered from… Thinking some Trump voters take that at face value. /

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:47:20am

Assad must be shaking in his boots.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:48:33am

Traffic melting down downtown Stockholm, Sweden.

Transit is melting down in Stockholm. The number of people on the bridge are most I’ve seen on a normal friday. Also, county just went into mass causalty / crisis alert mode.

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:55:45am

re: #210 GlutenFreeJesus

I assume those chyrons say something like “Assad: LOL u pussies!”

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:55:56am
But Russia, which backs President Bashar al-Assad, condemned the US strike and suspended a deal designed to avoid mid-air collisions over Syria.

It also promised to strengthen Syria’s anti-aircraft defences.

Fu-king boys and their games.

So tired of it.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:57:08am

I’m coining a new diagnosis term:

Friday Fatigue

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:57:24am

re: #210 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like those planes in the bunkers/revetments weren’t harmed in the making of this shitshow.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 7:57:45am

Priorities… It’s all about the priorities.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:01:01am

re: #216 lawhawk

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Priorities… It’s all about the priorities.

It’s about who contributed $$.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:02:31am

re: #209 Unshaken Defiance

Clinton would have done this properly. At least she would have tried to. Refugees from Syria wouldn’t be banned. She would have gone to Congress. The funny thing about that though, is that all of these “GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!” Republicans would be saying no to this kind of thing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:03:45am

re: #218 GlutenFreeJesus

Clinton would have done this properly. At least she would have tried to. Refugees from Syria wouldn’t be banned. She would have gone to Congress. The funny thing about that though, is that all of these “GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!” Republicans would be saying no to this kind of thing.

Correct.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:04:33am

re: #218 GlutenFreeJesus

Clinton would have done this properly. At least she would have tried to. Refugees from Syria wouldn’t be banned. She would have gone to Congress. The funny thing about that though, is that all of these “GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!” Republicans would be saying no to this kind of thing.

They would have been saying no, not because they didn’t want her to do it, but because they didn’t want to be responsible in any way. It’s exactly how they are acting now. McConnell and company have stated that Trump doesn’t need authorization because they don’t want to have to do their part.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:05:19am

Meanwhile in an alternate universe…

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:05:49am

Russia got what it wanted; an incompetent administration and political chaos in the US, while it’s own efforts to destabilize rivals worldwide continue.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:09:31am

re: #222 lawhawk

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Russia got what it wanted; an incompetent administration and political chaos in the US, while it’s own efforts to destabilize rivals worldwide continue.

Yep.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:11:57am

bbl

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:12:36am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

There’s a sociopathic, clinically detached side to me that wants to give them a round of applause because it was just so well executed.

And then there’s the other sides of me that are not taking it so well…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:16:52am

Here’s the Situation Room photo

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:17:38am

Pics from the scene (C) aftonbladet. Spoilered because graphic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:23:41am

Here is a lizard, wearing a teeny tiny party hat, eating birthday ice cream, to brighten up your day

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:24:22am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a lizard eating birthday cake to brighten up your day

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I’m on cute cuddly kittens level :(

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:25:46am

Minutes away

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nines09  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:27:53am

re: #215 lawhawk

Looks like those planes in the bunkers/revetments weren’t harmed in the making of this shitshow.

I doubt they dropped high explosives.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:27:59am

Credible?

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missile attack damaged over a dozen hangars, a fuel depot and an air defense base. About 60 U.S. Tomahawk missiles hit the Shayrat air base, southeast of Homs, a small installation with two runways.

The direct link acts rather odd. Slow redirect. Not gonna link Fox who had the snippet. I made an obvious change in the url to prevent the auto link.

FTR syriahr dot com/en/

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ipsos  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:28:31am

re: #230 FormerDirtDart

Won’t happen, but I’d love to see the entire D caucus walk out on the vote in protest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:30:30am

I saw the twitter handle of the writer, and all I could think was “Did you just say, ‘Abe Lincoln’?”

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:31:34am
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:31:45am

re: #215 lawhawk

Looks like those planes in the bunkers/revetments weren’t harmed in the making of this shitshow.

Yes, but considering the source well wait and see. Reports vary 24hr rule etc. ;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:36:47am
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:36:58am

re: #215 lawhawk

Looks like those planes in the bunkers/revetments weren’t harmed in the making of this shitshow.

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allegro  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:37:11am

Shouldn’t 60 missiles do more than damage a few buildings? Like destroy the whole base?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:37:25am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:37:53am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh suck a dick, Mitch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:38:11am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wait, what?

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:38:15am

For all of the people that are putting up Tweets from years ago that have Trump holding a different position on everything Syria and taking to task Obama’s decisions , you are all missing the most important point.

The Great Joke Scarborough speaketh this AM (paraphrased):

“I see all these people bringing up old tweets about what Trump thought then and his reaction now. It’s stupid. Trump is President now.”

There you have it. Everyone is wasting their time. Trump is The President.

(…but, he still sucks!)

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:39:16am

re: #239 allegro

Depends on the warheads used. Cluster munitions could drop bomblets all along a runway causing superficial damage or take out equipment/planes.

Bigger munitions could take out a hangar and contents within.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:39:27am

re: #243 ObserverArt

For all of the people that are putting up Tweets from years ago that have Trump holding a different position on everything Syria and taking to task Obama’s decisions , you are all missing the most important point.

The Great Joke Scarborough speaketh this AM (paraphrased):

“I see all these people bringing up old tweets about what Trump thought then and his reaction now. It’s stupid. Trump is President now.”

There you have it. Everyone is wasting their time. Trump is The President.

(…but, he still sucks!)

I think the old tweets especially by Republicans in Congress are quite relevant especially given many praised Assad in the past.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:40:01am

re: #239 allegro

Shouldn’t 60 missiles do more than damage a few buildings? Like destroy the whole base?

You need bombs if you’re going to destroy military runways.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:40:34am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell says he doesn’t see why anyone is confused because the message of this strike was clear: using chemical weapons has consequences Republicans have memories smaller than gnats.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:45:11am

The Senate just confirmed Gorsich. Once again, the Party comes first…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:45:50am

The extent to which the punditry have been desperate for months for Trump to grow the fuck up and take this shit seriously is palpable. This Cruise Missile Theater just provides ANOTHER opportunity for them to say he pivoted. (Except nobody used the P-word anymore)

Remember, this week began with him accusing the former National Security Adviser of a crime he could neither define nor provide evidence for, as well as supporting a multiple sexual harrasser during Sexual Assault Awareness And Prevention Month.

In a week, or less, he’ll be back to ragetweeting something stupid again. There’s only the one Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:47:52am
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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:50:32am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

Judge Neil M. Gorsuch was confirmed by the Senate on Friday to become the 113th justice of the Supreme Court

Holy shit, now that’s a HELL of a court-packing scheme.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:53:43am

re: #246 Timothy Watson

You need bombs if you’re going to destroy military runways.

Additionally, military runways are so hard to disable that the United States used to field a special type of bomb:
en.wikipedia.org

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:53:52am

re: #239 allegro

Shouldn’t 60 missiles do more than damage a few buildings? Like destroy the whole base?

If you look at the row of intact fighters out in the open, notice they are parked on dirt and that they are a really old model. Looks like we passed up on bombing the boneyard. Pic #3067999 at the sputnik link.

Some reports say the base if mostly destroyed. I think our Navy did a good job given the orders.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:57:19am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:57:42am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Oh suck a dick, Mitch.

Only a dick? And no salt?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 8:59:24am

I guess it’s good they have Cruise Missile Theater to talk about this morning, then.

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Chrysicat  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:00:14am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

[sarc]just great[/sarc].

So is it ‘just’ Roe, Romer, and Griswold that are now only awaiting test plaintiffs to overturn, or will we lose Brown too?

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:00:16am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Out of curiosity, did you know if Bernie said anything meaningful at the Perriello event?

And I don’t know if you saw my comment last night, but I was joking about wanting to give you a good-natured dig about Bernie and Perriello but couldn’t get the tone right, but you beat me to it with your comment about Bernie last night.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:01:45am

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

But the Press will continue to kiss Trump’s ass and make excuses for him.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:02:01am

re: #257 Chrysicat

just great.

So is it ‘just’ Roe, Romer, and Griswold that are now only awaiting test plaintiffs to overturn, or will we lose Brown too?

He’s replacing Scalia, so it’ll be like it was the recent past.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:04:08am
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Chrysicat  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:04:57am

re: #260 Belafon

All right–we’re safe until one of the Clinton appointees expires. At that point, though, we’re gonna be reminded that Gorsuch was the furthest left on Trump’s ‘vetted judges’ list.

So which decisions do we get to keep then?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:05:49am
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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:06:38am

re: #262 Chrysicat

All right–we’re safe until one of the Clinton appointees expires. At that point, though, we’re gonna be reminded that Gorsuch was the furthest left on Trump’s ‘vetted judges’ list.

So which decisions do we get to keep then?

None of the good ones and all of the bad ones.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:08:05am

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

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The extent to which the punditry have been desperate for months for Trump to grow the fuck up and take this shit seriously is palpable. This Cruise Missile Theater just provides ANOTHER opportunity for them to say he pivoted. (Except nobody used the P-word anymore)

Remember, this week began with him accusing the former National Security Adviser of a crime he could neither define nor provide evidence for, as well as supporting a multiple sexual harrasser during Sexual Assault Awareness And Prevention Month.

In a week, or less, he’ll be back to ragetweeting something stupid again. There’s only the one Trump.

I used the pivot word last evening.

Link

“I think we are finally in the Trump pivot.

Again.”

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I cannot.  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:08:26am

re: #262 Chrysicat

Hell, I know some dipshits have it in for Marbury v. Madison, and this bunch is NOTHING if not full of dipshits.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:09:50am

re: #251 I cannot.

Holy shit, now that’s a HELL of a court-packing scheme.

So, we can look forward to 57 to 56 decisions?

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The Crusher  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:10:58am

re: #260 Belafon

No, it was supposed to be Merrick Garland’s seat.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:12:39am

re: #268 The Crusher

No, it was supposed to be Merrick Garland’s seat.

True, but that’s not the question that was asked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:13:09am
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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:14:15am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump considers firing both Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon

Jared’s work load increases exponentially.

//

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:15:35am

re: #262 Chrysicat

All right–we’re safe until one of the Clinton appointees expires. At that point, though, we’re gonna be reminded that Gorsuch was the furthest left on Trump’s ‘vetted judges’ list.

So which decisions do we get to keep then?

I do find it interesting that the decision in the Virginia redistricting case went 8-0 against Republican gerrymandering this year.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:16:46am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry, Donald, did you think Putin was your friend?

At the same time, what will Assad think when Putin sacrifices this for ending sanctions on Russia?

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:16:50am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Am I too cynical to think they purposely put that image out for one reason?

And that would be because it is similar to the image of Obama and the Security Staff in that now famous image of them together the night they took out Bin Laden.

Trump has to trump.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:18:04am

NPR was swooning over Trump. Cokey Roberts is in love and Obama laid down a red line and failed to back it up. Ssdd.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:20:49am

Obama wasn’t a dictator. If he had done more, the Republicans who now are praising Trump for his assertiveness would have flipped their shit and the media knows it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:20:59am

re: #275 Amory Blaine

NPR was swooning over Trump. Cokey Roberts is in love and Obama laid down a red line and failed to back it up. Ssdd.

I heard “New Sheriff in Town” three times already today.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:21:25am

re: #277 ObserverArt

I heard “New Sheriff in Town” three times already today.

Egads.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:24:08am

re: #277 ObserverArt

I heard “New Sheriff in Town” three times already today.

Vomitous.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:24:12am

re: #275 Amory Blaine

NPR was swooning over Trump. Cokey Roberts is in love and Obama laid down a red line and failed to back it up. Ssdd.

Another reason why I see nothing wrong with the Republicans pulling the plug on NPR.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:26:02am

re: #275 Amory Blaine

NPR was swooning over Trump. Cokey Roberts is in love and Obama laid down a red line and failed to back it up. Ssdd.

Was it NPR or Cokey Roberts? While she was on there, I wouldn’t exactly compare her to Steve Inskeep.

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electrotek  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:26:18am

On a lighter note, today is the 20th anniversary of a pivotal album’s release which also changed my life as a middle school kid back in those days:

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:29:49am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Egads.

re: #279 EPR-radar

Vomitous.

I already have my boots on. I fear I will be looking for hip waders later.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:29:51am

re: #274 ObserverArt

Am I too cynical to think they purposely put that image out for one reason?

And that would be because it is similar to the image of Obama and the Security Staff in that now famous image of them together the night they took out Bin Laden.

Tump has to trump.

I think you’re exactly right. This is all a theatrical production.

If the US was serious about sending a message that gassing your own people is unacceptable, the targets would have been Assad’s palaces and there would have been no warnings.

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CongoJack  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:31:31am

Last time tRump had a good day (his speech to the joint session of Congress) a day later a whole bunch of info was dropped by the IC that tied him to Russia.

I hope this evening there is another bomb shell (pun intended) about tRump’s collusion and all of these happy feelings towards tRump go back down to visceral hatred.

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wrenchwench  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:31:41am

re: #281 Belafon

Was it NPR or Cokey Roberts? While she was on there, I wouldn’t exactly compare her to Steve Inskeep.

My favorite Steve Inskeep story (I’m pretty sure it was him) is that he was interviewing a handwriting analyzer and insisted that the guy should tell him what he saw about the person who wrote this sample (even after the guy tried to say ‘no’) and the response was, ‘OK, this comes from a person who is self-centered, egotistical….’ and Inskeep said, ‘I wrote that!’

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:32:12am
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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:32:30am

re: #281 Belafon

Was it NPR or Cokey Roberts? While she was on there, I wouldn’t exactly compare her to Steve Inskeep.

When hasn’t Cokehead Roberts kissed Republican ass?

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:32:58am

re: #284 EPR-radar

I think you’re exactly right. This is all a theatrical production.

If the US was serious about sending a message that gassing your own people is unacceptable, the targets would have been Assad’s palaces and there would have been no warnings.

Oops. I misspelled Trump as Tump. Now edited.

If I am arrested today, you will know where I went.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:33:16am

re: #287 lawhawk

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wrenchwench  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:35:32am

re: #288 Joe Bacon

When hasn’t Cokehead Roberts kissed Republican ass?

Plus they have Jonah Goldberg on regularly now. (I have a lot of trouble with names these days. I had to google ‘doughy pantload’ to get Jonah’s.)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:36:13am

re: #284 EPR-radar

I think you’re exactly right. This is all a theatrical production.

If the US was serious about sending a message that gassing your own people is unacceptable, the targets would have been Assad’s palaces and there would have been no warnings.

That’s for next time. I can sort of understand the warning part - imagine if we’d hit a military base full of Russian techs without warning. 20 or 30 dead Russian military personnel?

Putin would be livid - and Russian public opinion would demand retribution. Like I said, I can understand the warning part, so as to avoid any needless Russian casualties.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:37:21am

re: #119 Anymouse

Trump pulls his handshake nonsense on President Xi.

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People should start pointing out that Trump’s hand is as far out as his gut during his handshakes.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:38:48am

re: #150 Birth Control Works

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I created a new Facebook Page. It’s a place to buy t-shirts and read science news.

I signed up. (liked)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:42:39am
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Interesting Times  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:45:50am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:47:23am

re: #297 Interesting Times

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Oh for sure. I’m definitely pissed at the far left who spread bullshit that Trump was better on FP than Clinton.

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allegro  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:48:50am

re: #297 Interesting Times

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So they got the warnings to get the military personnel and equipment out but left civilians and kids to get bombed? Fuck me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:49:37am

re: #299 allegro

So they got the warnings to get the military personnel and equipment out but left civilians and kids to get bombed? Fuck me.

Yep and this is the regime my asshole state senator, Dick Black has praised many a time for how “Christian” they are.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:50:24am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmmm. Makes me wonder who was speculating on Rayethon stock?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:50:27am

Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike……

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:53:05am

AG Sessions displeased

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:53:47am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

That’s for next time. I can sort of understand the warning part - imagine if we’d hit a military base full of Russian techs without warning. 20 or 30 dead Russian military personnel?

Putin would be livid - and Russian public opinion would demand retribution. Like I said, I can understand the warning part, so as to avoid any needless Russian casualties.

Sure, warning the Russians is important to prevent WWIII. But then the Russians immediately warn Syria, and all we get is this meaningless exercise with a few dead civilians the Assad regime can use for propaganda.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:54:25am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

If we let them in, they’ll just become dependent on us. Far better to let them be killed in their own country so we can retaliate. ///////

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:55:09am

re: #303 FormerDirtDart

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Man fuck Sessions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:57:55am
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:58:20am
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 9:59:17am
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:00:09am

re: #297 Interesting Times

Damascus (AFP) - A US missile strike targeting an airbase in central Syria killed nine civilians, including four children, on Friday, state news agency SANA reported.

Yeah, but it wasn’t nerve gas.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:00:51am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Man fuck Sessions.

I’m sure Sessions’ preferred solution to racial tension in 21st century America is very simple: The cops kill anyone who doesn’t look white enough until the tension is gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:00:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:02:10am
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:03:48am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Man fuck Sessions.

He is who we thought he was.

“Why back in the day we didn’t do stuff like police investigations. We had dogs and clubs and they were just fine.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:04:03am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck the NRA too and their narrow interpretation of the 2nd amendment. I hope LaPierre loses all his guns.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:04:18am

re: #314 ObserverArt

He is who we thought he was.

“Why back in the day we didn’t do stuff like police investigations. We had dogs and clubs and they were just fine.”

Firehoses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:04:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:07:16am

HOLD THE PHONE

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gocart mozart  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:08:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:09:54am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:10:13am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Firehoses.

Simulated lynchings to obtain confessions.

(We have an aircraft carrier named in honor (gag) of the prosecutor in that case.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:11:25am

re: #321 Timothy Watson

Simulated lynchings to obtain confessions.

(We have an aircraft carrier named in honor (gag) of the prosecutor in that case.)

Agh.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:12:29am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

HOLD THE PHONE

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If it indeed it was sarin that was used, Assad got it from somewhere. Sarin’s the kind of stuff that’s usually reserved for state actors. Only one terrorist group I’m aware of (and someone please correct me if I’m wrong) has ever successfully manufactured and used sarin in a terrorist act - Aum Shinrikyo, and they had resources that Da’esh and al-Qaeda could only dream of.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:13:17am

And in the you can’t make this shit up, the gun shop he stole the guns from is The Armageddon Gun Shop.

Manhunt underway for suspect who stole a ‘large quantity’ of guns and sent 161-page manifesto to Trump

rawstory.com

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:13:19am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta keep Trumpy updated in real-time on the personal financial impacts of bombing the shit out of someone

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:13:40am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone should have told Jared what he was supposed to be looking at.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:15:56am

re: #326 Skip Intro

Someone should have told Jared what he was supposed to be looking at.

He and Bannon are giving each other the stink eye.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:16:37am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

If it indeed it was sarin that was used, Assad got it from somewhere. Sarin’s the kind of stuff that’s usually reserved for state actors. Only one terrorist group I’m aware of (and someone please correct me if I’m wrong) has ever successfully manufactured and used sarin in a terrorist act - Aum Shinrikyo, and they had resources that Da’esh and al-Qaeda could only dream of.

Even if Assad had it, it was supposedly turned over to the Russians to “destroy” per the agreements Obama and others made with Russia and Syria wasn’t it? I think it is fairly obvious where it came from. And Donny may have gotten played. And that wouldn’t be a surprise.

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electrotek  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:17:04am

Just a reminder that we can still criticize this action by Trump without the need to shame Syrians supporting it.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:17:54am
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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:18:14am

Why the fuck does this guy still have a job?

“We see these beautiful pictures at night from the decks of these two U.S. Navy vessels in the eastern Mediterranean,” Williams said.

He then lifted a line from late singer-songwriter Cohen’s 1988 hit “First We Take Manhattan,” saying, “I am guided by the beauty of our weapons.”

Williams went on to describe the images as “beautiful pictures of fearsome armaments making what is for them a brief flight over to this airfield.”

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:18:32am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

HOLD THE PHONE

Walking down the hall at work at that’s what CNN has spent the last 10+ minutes covering.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:19:55am

Trump, over thirty years as a public figure: America should push everybody around and be strong. Diplomacy and good neighbor relations is for pussies.

Trump as a candidate: IMMA BLOW THE SHIT OUTTA STUFF. DEATH COCKS FROM THE SKY.

Trump as president: Yep, Imma start blowing stuff up now.

Assorted idiots: Clearly, the neoliberal hawks tricked him into this.

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electrotek  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:20:30am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

On a Middle Eastern country, nonetheless.

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electrotek  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:20:46am
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:21:15am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He and Bannon are giving each other the stink eye.

We should start a poll for when Bannon is gone.

I’ll go with next Friday in the afternoon “dump” period. We need a week to make it seem everything is fine and then boom, he’s gone.

On Monday following Bannon dumps all over Trump with all the dirt he can shovel and backed by all the alt-right sites. A frog stomp.

Get your popcorn here…a!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:21:16am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

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Always remember, low-information voters and our feckless media Americans love a wartime president.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:22:50am

re: #328 ObserverArt

Even if Assad had it, it was supposedly turned over to the Russians to “destroy” per the agreements Obama and others made with Russia and Syria wasn’t it? I think it is fairly obvious where it came from. And Donny may have gotten played. And that wouldn’t be a surprise.

Yep.

BTW, Aum Shinrikyo? Yeah, they were some truly scary mofos, that’s for damn sure. Not only had they successfully made sarin, but they’d also manufactured VX as well and were working on weaponized anthrax.

Doomsday cult, indeed. Perhaps the scariest one of all time, I’d say.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:24:09am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

Always remember, low-information voters and our feckless media Americans love a wartime president.

Not this American. Independently of Assad’s atrocities and Russia’s game-playing, Trump can go fuck himself repeatedly with a rusty and malfunctioning Ditch Witch.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:24:11am

re: #338 Blind Frog Belly White

But surprisingly, it’s NOT Paul Ryan.
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Ryan couldn’t produce a 161 page anything even if 160 pages were blank.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:24:40am

re: #336 ObserverArt

Bannon will be gone when the Mercers say so. That won’t be anytime soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:24:55am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:25:02am
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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:26:13am

re: #344 Dr. Matt

Santa can take my gut back if he wants it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:26:32am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kragar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:27:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:27:29am
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:28:25am

re: #342 Skip Intro

Bannon will be gone when the Mercers say so. That won’t be anytime soon.

Who do they like more? The guy they backed that is the President now, or Bannon that only has a title and seems to be diminished? Actual power or just a position to power.

I ask, because I am not sure as I don’t know all that much about the Mercers.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:30:23am

re: #347 Kragar

The thing is, Putin needs a war to get gas prices up. Without some kind of distraction, additional oil from Russia would just drive prices even lower.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:30:38am

Here’s my take:

Assad never gave up all his chemical weapons or the ability to make more.

Tillerson’s message of last week told Assad he had free rein.

Assad decided to see how much free rein he actually had.

Trump made a big stink about the attack, and his people made a bigger one (including Tillerson essentially saying ‘regime change’)

Trump brushed Assad back, but that’s it (confirmed by Tillerson stating that this doesn’t mean a policy change). Russia stepped aside and let it happen, but now they have to make a show of disapproval.

I don’t think Assad will double down, because I don’t think Russia will let him. What he MIGHT do is shoot a ‘rogue general’ for doing this heinous thing.

Net result: Trump gets to look manly and not at all puppetlike. Putin gets a bump in oil prices. Assad gets hit on the nose with rolled up newspaper. The Syrian people still get screwed.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:30:52am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WHY SHE’S PRACTICALLY A FIVE-STAR GENERAL!!!

*smdh*

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Interesting Times  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:31:20am

Holy crap. This might be David Frum’s best thread yet (and bitterly ironic, given he’s criticizing the very same techniques he’s used in the past to defend the GOP):

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:31:54am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:33:39am

re: #351 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s my take:

Assad never gave up all his chemical weapons or the ability to make more.

Tillerson’s message of last week told Assad he had free rein.

Assad decided to see how much free rein he actually had.

Trump made a big stink about the attack, and his people made a bigger one (including Tillerson essentially saying ‘regime change’)

Trump brushed Assad back, but that’s it (confirmed by Tillerson stating that this doesn’t mean a policy change). Russia stepped aside and let it happen, but now they have to make a show of disapproval.

I don’t think Assad will double down, because I don’t think Russia will let him. What he MIGHT do is shoot a ‘rogue general’ for doing this heinous thing.

Net result: Trump gets to look manly and not at all puppetlike. Putin gets a bump in oil prices. Assad gets hit on the nose with rolled up newspaper. The Syrian people still get screwed.

..and Trump supporters catch the car and burn their noses on the tailpipe.

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Brian J.  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:34:03am

re: #354 goddamnedfrank

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This is Putin giving his puppet his one and only chance to look tough in a way certain to do no damage, no doubt shaking his head at having to “Wag the Dog” so soon.

I doubt you’ll hear the head of the American oblast refer to this again if he can possibly help it.

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:34:56am
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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:35:26am

re: #349 ObserverArt

Who do they like more? The guy they backed that is the President now, or Bannon that only has a title and seems to be diminished? Actual power or just a position to power.

I ask, because I am not sure as I don’t know all that much about the Mercers.

I think getting Bannon was part of deal for Mercer support of Trump. They’ve given him - Bannon - a shitload of money over the years.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:36:17am

re: #349 ObserverArt

Who do they like more? The guy they backed that is the President now, or Bannon that only has a title and seems to be diminished? Actual power or just a position to power.

I ask, because I am not sure as I don’t know all that much about the Mercers.

Per wikipedia, they are rich lunatics who spend lavishly to ruin the country. Admittedly, that is of no use at all in trying to determine if they will support Bannon vs. Trump.

en.wikipedia.org

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:37:37am

re: #354 goddamnedfrank

She’s as vapid as her father. She’s just had better plastic surgery.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:38:40am

re: #355 ObserverArt

..and Trump supporters catch the car and burn their noses on the tailpipe.

What, you mean his Alt-Reich buddies? Yeah. But seriously, how fucking dumb are they, anyway?

I mean, Trump had to do this to show how much more ‘decisive’ and ‘firm’ he is than Obama.

BTW, fucking Mitch McConnell can DIAF. He loudly opposed Obama doing pretty much exactly this in 2013, and now he thinks this is just great. Pretty clear now that he opposed Obama doing this because he wanted Obama to look weak and dithering. No concern for America’s position in the world. No real concern for the larger number of dead Syrians. Just political calculus. THAT is one evil motherfucker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:38:40am
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KingKenrod  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:40:18am

re: #357 lawhawk

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That de-escalated quickly. Seems like 100% confirmation that govt power was being used to attack a political opponent. We need to know who was behind this.

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Brian J.  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:40:31am

re: #351 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s my take:

Assad never gave up all his chemical weapons or the ability to make more.

Tillerson’s message of last week told Assad he had free rein.

Assad decided to see how much free rein he actually had.

Trump made a big stink about the attack, and his people made a bigger one (including Tillerson essentially saying ‘regime change’)

Trump brushed Assad back, but that’s it (confirmed by Tillerson stating that this doesn’t mean a policy change). Russia stepped aside and let it happen, but now they have to make a show of disapproval.

I don’t think Assad will double down, because I don’t think Russia will let him. What he MIGHT do is shoot a ‘rogue general’ for doing this heinous thing.

Net result: Trump gets to look manly and not at all puppetlike. Putin gets a bump in oil prices. Assad gets hit on the nose with rolled up newspaper. The Syrian people still get screwed.

Probably a bit too complicated. This was just to give their American puppet a chance to look manly. No further American involvement, no wider war, no bump in oil prices. Assad might double down; whether Putin lets him depends on whether Putin has tired of his American puppet’s relentless incompetence. The leaks from the F(S)BI are a strong indication that he has.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:40:36am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It means what he says it means.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:40:47am

BernieBro’s bro’in’ down

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Kragar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:41:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:41:01am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Raytheon’s stock is up http://

how many percentage points is this going to boost DTs popularity?

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:41:13am

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

What, you mean his Alt-Reich buddies? Yeah. But seriously, how fucking dumb are they, anyway?

I mean, Trump had to do this to show how much more ‘decisive’ and ‘firm’ he is than Obama.

BTW, fucking Mitch McConnell can DIAF. He loudly opposed Obama doing pretty much exactly this in 2013, and now he thinks this is just great. Pretty clear now that he opposed Obama doing this because he wanted Obama to look weak and dithering. No concern for America’s position in the world. No real concern for the larger number of dead Syrians. Just political calculus. THAT is one evil motherfucker.

McConnell is basically a generic Republican. The above-described level of evil is simply the current Republican baseline.

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CongoJack  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:42:52am

re: #357 lawhawk

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Like a fart in the wind. Yay for the 1st Amendment.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:42:54am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Syria was involved in 9/11? News to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:43:31am

re: #371 Timothy Watson

Syria was involved in 9/11? News to me.

Just like Iraq! ///

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:44:45am

re: #354 goddamnedfrank

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:45:23am

re: #371 Timothy Watson

Syria was involved in 9/11? News to me.

re: #372 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Iraq! ///

They all look the same.

(Trump thinking…it works for all colors but white and orange)

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Sir John Barron  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:49:54am

re: #367 Kragar

My surprised face. Let me show you it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:50:42am

re: #369 EPR-radar

McConnell is basically a generic Republican. The above-described level of evil is simply the current Republican baseline.

I disagree. McConnell quietly makes it okay for the whole party to be completely partisan, and act solely on partisanship. He appears to lack any real principles.

- McConnell is the one who came up with the total obstruction plan in 2009.
- McConnell is the one who put making Obama a 1-term President ahead of the good of the country at a time when our economy was hanging by a thread.
- McConnell is the one who forced Reid’s hand on judicial filibusters in 2013.
- McConnell is the first Congressional leader to oppose Obama’s plan to attack Syria over the 2013 gas attacks.
- McConnell is the one who first came out with the plan to deny Obama the nomination of Scalia’s replacement.
- McConnell is the one who KNEW that the Russians were trying to elect Trump and made it clear that if this were made public before the election he’d denounce it as a partisan ploy.
- McConnell is the one who engineered the Nuclear Option.

If you think he’s just a generic Republican, I’d say he’s succeeded.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:53:15am

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

I disagree. McConnell quietly makes it okay for the whole party to be completely partisan, and act solely on partisanship. He appears to lack any real principles.

- McConnell is the one who came up with the total obstruction plan in 2009.
- McConnell is the one who put making Obama a 1-term President ahead of the good of the country at a time when our economy was hanging by a thread.
- McConnell is the one who forced Reid’s hand on judicial filibusters in 2013.
- McConnell is the first Congressional leader to oppose Obama’s plan to attack Syria over the 2013 gas attacks.
- McConnell is the one who first came out with the plan to deny Obama the nomination of Scalia’s replacement.
- McConnell is the one who KNEW that the Russians were trying to elect Trump and made it clear that if this were made public before the election he’d denounce it as a partisan ploy.
- McConnell is the one who engineered the Nuclear Option.

If you think he’s just a generic Republican, I’d say he’s succeeded.

Bingo. And this must be repeated on a daily basis:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:53:27am

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

McConnell, more than anyone else currently or recently in office, has abused the customs and privileges of the Senate and or Washington generally to destroy those very customs and privileges, all for the Party over the good of the country, and he’s largely gotten everyone to go along with it, and say that Democrats would have done the same.

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Kragar  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:54:06am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:54:45am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

BernieBro’s bro’in’ down

“Let me explain to you how DT’s Syria bombing illustrates how bad the Dem Party and its corporate overlords are……”

/////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:54:49am

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

McConnell, more than anyone else currently or recently in office, has abused the customs and privileges of the Senate and or Washington generally to destroy those very customs and privileges, and he’s largely gotten everyone to go along with it, and say that Democrats would have done the same.

The Democrats allowed a black man to be elected President, There is not enough the GOP can do to punish them for such an affront to America.

/

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Sir John Barron  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:55:44am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Constitution? Oh, OK.

/

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:57:16am

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Democrats allowed a black man to be elected President, There is not enough the GOP can do to punish them for such an affront to America.

/

And almost a woman too.

What the hell is this country coming to?!?!?!

That needs to stop right here right now.

(I can see him saying that in some smokey back room)

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lawhawk  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:57:28am

Trump adviser “Dr” Gorka thinks Syria airstrike sends a strong message against Islamic State.

These fucknuts don’t get who they attacked, or who’s even fighting which parties in Syria. They’re all interchangeable for their purposes (which is to project Trump strength, nothing more).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 10:57:55am

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Democrats allowed a black man to be elected President, There is not enough the GOP can do to punish them for such an affront to America.

/

You know, I don’t even think McConnell’s thinking went that far. Instead, I think he realized more clearly than anyone else just how much disrespect the GOP could get away with, simply because Obama is black.

Still racist, but less ‘principled’ racist, and more opportunistically racist.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:03:24am
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Belafon  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:03:25am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

BernieBro’s bro’in’ down

Every reply to that one should be mocking laughter.

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wrenchwench  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:04:22am

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

I disagree. McConnell quietly makes it okay for the whole party to be completely partisan, and act solely on partisanship. He appears to lack any real principles.

- McConnell is the one who came up with the total obstruction plan in 2009.
- McConnell is the one who put making Obama a 1-term President ahead of the good of the country at a time when our economy was hanging by a thread.
- McConnell is the one who forced Reid’s hand on judicial filibusters in 2013.
- McConnell is the first Congressional leader to oppose Obama’s plan to attack Syria over the 2013 gas attacks.
- McConnell is the one who first came out with the plan to deny Obama the nomination of Scalia’s replacement.
- McConnell is the one who KNEW that the Russians were trying to elect Trump and made it clear that if this were made public before the election he’d denounce it as a partisan ploy.
- McConnell is the one who engineered the Nuclear Option.

If you think he’s just a generic Republican, I’d say he’s succeeded.

I was thinking he should share a cell with Comey, but I’m not sure if he’s broken any laws.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:05:12am

re: #379 Kragar

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:05:42am

re: #390 wrenchwench

I was thinking he should share a cell with Comey, but I’m not sure if he’s broken any laws.

I see Comey as principled, but stupid. McConnell, OTOH, is thoroughly lacking any principle except Partei Uber Alles.

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thecommodore  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:12:16am

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

I disagree. McConnell quietly makes it okay for the whole party to be completely partisan, and act solely on partisanship. He appears to lack any real principles.

- McConnell is the one who came up with the total obstruction plan in 2009.
- McConnell is the one who put making Obama a 1-term President ahead of the good of the country at a time when our economy was hanging by a thread.
- McConnell is the one who forced Reid’s hand on judicial filibusters in 2013.
- McConnell is the first Congressional leader to oppose Obama’s plan to attack Syria over the 2013 gas attacks.
- McConnell is the one who first came out with the plan to deny Obama the nomination of Scalia’s replacement.
- McConnell is the one who KNEW that the Russians were trying to elect Trump and made it clear that if this were made public before the election he’d denounce it as a partisan ploy.
- McConnell is the one who engineered the Nuclear Option.

If you think he’s just a generic Republican, I’d say he’s succeeded.

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EPR-radar  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:14:02am

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

I disagree. McConnell quietly makes it okay for the whole party to be completely partisan, and act solely on partisanship. He appears to lack any real principles.

- McConnell is the one who came up with the total obstruction plan in 2009.
- McConnell is the one who put making Obama a 1-term President ahead of the good of the country at a time when our economy was hanging by a thread.
- McConnell is the one who forced Reid’s hand on judicial filibusters in 2013.
- McConnell is the first Congressional leader to oppose Obama’s plan to attack Syria over the 2013 gas attacks.
- McConnell is the one who first came out with the plan to deny Obama the nomination of Scalia’s replacement.
- McConnell is the one who KNEW that the Russians were trying to elect Trump and made it clear that if this were made public before the election he’d denounce it as a partisan ploy.
- McConnell is the one who engineered the Nuclear Option.

If you think he’s just a generic Republican, I’d say he’s succeeded.

McConnell’s rap list is impressive. IMO any other Republican in McConnell’s position would have done much the same. The party really is that far gone. Any ultra-microscopic traces of decency that may have remained in the party after the W Bush years were immediately gone once Obama was elected.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:19:05am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

BernieBro’s bro’in’ down

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2017 • 11:24:07am

re: #394 EPR-radar

McConnell’s rap list is impressive. IMO any other Republican in McConnell’s position would have done much the same. The party really is that far gone. Any ultra-microscopic traces of decency that may have remained in the party after the W Bush years were immediately gone once Obama was elected.

I was thinking about this, and I don’t think so. I think McConnell is a product of Gingrich’s destruction of civility and bipartisanship, but in a much, much more subtle way. Gingrich is an egomaniac who needed to be seen doing this stuff. McConnell, OTOH, doesn’t appear to be as partisan, because he picks his battles very carefully. Look at how he reacted during Trump’s ‘Pussygrabber’ crisis. Ryan felt he had to make a public show of disapproval, and ended up getting burned. McConnell? Christ, could you even FIND McConnell during that time? And on the AHCA, Ryan led with his chin while McConnell? Well, hell - he doesn’t have one. But he mouthed meaningless support and did absolutely nothing to stop the inevitable collapse.

He’s sneaky and devious, and utterly without ethics or principle. He’s also smart enough not to get caught in anything he can’t talk his way out of. He demonstrated that you COULD BE the party of No, the party with no ideas, utterly obstructionist, and get reelected, as long as you’re on the Right, and the President is black.

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