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Joe Bacon  Apr 8, 2017 • 5:46:08pm

Interesting. I did some Googling and came across this involving McConnell’s daughter…

GHENT, N.Y. - More than a dozen parents have removed their children from an alternative, private school in a rural upstate county amid complaints about disciplinary tactics by one teacher.

Claire McConnell, who apologized in a letter June 24, was accused of strapping one child into a chair with a leather belt, tying the hands of others and taping shut the mouths of some elementary school students, the Albany Times Union reported Thursday.

enquirer.com

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 5:59:26pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:02:54pm

Been watching 19-2 on Acorn. English speaking-set in Montreal. Highly recommended.

I’m going back to it and working photoshop Team Oscar 2017 T-shirts.

bbl -maybe

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:04:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:05:33pm

re: #2 Dave In Austin

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I blocked that loon a little while ago.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:06:04pm

re: #2 Dave In Austin

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Yeah keep on telling yourself that. She’s an Assad apologist and her LGBT record sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:06:26pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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It’s pathetic. The only reason why they like her is because of Sanders.

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Nyet  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:06:39pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I don’t like Bernie, but even after everything I don’t find him despicable, only unlikable.

Gabbard is despicable.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:07:32pm

re: #8 Nyet

I don’t like Bernie, but even after everything I don’t find him despicable, only unlikable.

Gabbard is despicable.

I agree with that assessment.

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:09:24pm

If you believe that being “anti-war” means you have to snuggle up to dictators, then you’re doing it wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:11:12pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

If you believe that being “anti-war” means you have to snuggle up to dictators, then you’re doing it wrong.

She’s not even anti-war. She hated the Obama administration’s Iran deal. If she hadn’t supported Sanders, she’d be another “Neo-lib” to them. I have no problem with many of Sanders other Congressional Democratic supporters like Rep Grijalva and Ellison but Gabbard is awful.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:12:55pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:14:03pm

It seems almost plausible that Trump, Putin, and Assad colluded on the missile attack so Trump could dodge the Russiagate scandal. It’s a conspiracy theory in the literal sense, but the kind of conspiracy that really happens. National leaders do plot to manipulate events, relatively few people have direct knowledge, and it happens over a relatively short period. Crucially, it also differs from the typical commercial or Kremlin CT in not requiring an assumption that western “mainstream” media are secretly under some kind of rigid central control.
Alas, the evidence of the last few hours suggests that the Trump-Putin split is real. The usual stooges and conspiracy outlets have turned against Trump en masse. The unbelievably idiotic claim that “Assad wouldn’t bomb his own people” seems to have burst simultaneously from every dark corner of the net.
This is looking more and more like civil war in the nut-o-sphere, ‘baggers vs. Putinites and conspiracy dupes. I’d be lying if I denied that I am delighted at the prospect. Do I really want to sic millions of armed yahoos on the Kremlin conspiracy dupes? Better them than us.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:16:37pm

Hate to say it, but the police had better be prepared to shoot Joseph Jakubowski

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:18:26pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

We’re seeing what happens when there’s really no coherent policy vision at all, just venal people grasping for power no matter what they have to do to get it.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:22:06pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Now I just wonder who inspired Jakubowski…Alex Jones, Fox, Mark Levin, Rush or some other detestable freak?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:23:01pm

Passion for What you Do… And how it works…. LOL!

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Nyet  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:23:19pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, it’s a CT and as such not worth anybody’s time.

So let’s discuss the idiotic “wouldn’t bomb his own people” meme instead.

How so? Why wouldn’t he after the US just a couple of days before indicated that it doesn’t care about Assad (and, implicitly, whatever he does)? And Trump indicated for a long time that he would like to make a deal with Assad.

The aim of a gas attack is to intimidate the population and make them give up. Given the background, Assad must have thought that Trump doesn’t give a shit (and Putin would support anything he does anyway). So he does this raid in order to quicken his victory without suspecting that Trump might do 180.

What is supposed to be so unrealistic about it?

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:24:32pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

We’re seeing what happens when there’s really no coherent policy vision at all, just venal people grasping for power no matter what they have to do to get it.

It’s perversely comforting to think that Trump and Putin conspired in a charade. The alternative is to believe that Trump and his brain-dead advisers lashed out like this on their own. The evidence at this point supports the latter.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:26:13pm

Book recommendation: Bird Box: A Novel by Josh Malerman.

An end of the world story with an unusual and unsettling twist. Very well written.

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Nyet  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:27:32pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Charles, a month or so ago you recommended some kind of a horror novel - could you please repeat it?

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:28:57pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Hate to say it, but the police had better be prepared to shoot Joseph Jakubowski

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There is no such thing as natural law. The universe doesn’t care if we live or die.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:31:24pm

re: #21 Nyet

Charles, a month or so ago you recommended some kind of a horror novel - could you please repeat it?

Maybe you’re thinking of: A Head Full of Ghosts: A Novel by Paul Tremblay.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:32:24pm
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Nyet  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:33:06pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I think that’s it. Thanks.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:33:52pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

That’s awesome…..

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:34:29pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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Neera is supporting my candidate for governor. Believe I saw her on Maher. I like her.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:38:17pm

Instagram

You are kidding me 😳 . Still one of the craziest drops @cinematowski has witnessed and us too ☺️. FULL SEND from 🏂 @brockbutterfield in AK. 🎥@cinematowski #snowboard #snowboarding

Who cares he didn’t land it, that’s a hell of a send!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:39:09pm

Legal adviser among others.

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KGxvi  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:47:45pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

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Legal adviser among others.

hes juss shrinken the size of gubment!!!

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scottslemmons  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:48:11pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Maybe you’re thinking of: A Head Full of Ghosts: A Novel by Paul Tremblay.

I can second that recommendation. One of the most deeply affecting horror novels I’ve read. I still sit around sometimes and think really, really hard about the ending.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:49:14pm

re: #30 KGxvi

hes juss shrinken the size of gubment!!!

Was just what I was about to say, actually. Besides, with an amazing negotiator and businessman like Drumpf, who needs diplomats and statespeople?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:51:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:52:04pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon

Now I just wonder who inspired Jakubowski…Alex Jones, Fox, Mark Levin, Rush or some other detestable freak?

He seems more “sovereign” to me…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:54:19pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

He seems more “sovereign” to me…

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he is

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2017 • 6:59:33pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:02:53pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:03:49pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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Jenner7  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:04:29pm

United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell returns April 30th and he interviews Richard Spencer. I saw a preview of it and I wanted to punch the nazi fucker.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:05:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:08:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:09:43pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Hate to say it, but the police had better be prepared to shoot Joseph Jakubowski

I would advise anyone in the area of Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan and Indiana caught up in a police traffic stop to do exactly what the officers tell you…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:11:05pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:11:26pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

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I would advise anyone in the area of Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan and Indiana caught up in a police traffic stop to do exactly what the officers tell you…

I always do anyway, but I’m a white male so I feel like I’m in little danger.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:11:56pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

George W. didn’t see a peaceful Iraq with Saddam. We all know how that turned out.

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EPR-radar  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:12:30pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Syria is a client state of Russia. That means the US has absolutely no ability to unilaterally get rid of Assad, and people like Haley shouldn’t say such stupid things.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:13:03pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

Syria is a client state of Russia. That means the US has absolutely no ability to unilaterally get rid of Assad, and people like Haley shouldn’t say such stupid things.

Yeah, but an in-depth knowledge of global geopolitics is for losers. Real presidents just shoot from the hip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:13:04pm
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KGxvi  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:15:28pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rule of Acquisition No. 34: war is good for business

Rule of Acquisition No. 35: peace is good for business

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calochortus  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:17:09pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

Syria is a client state of Russia. That means the US has absolutely no ability to unilaterally get rid of Assad, and people like Haley shouldn’t say such stupid things.

And even if we could, it’s not like a peaceful, happy democracy will suddenly leap up in his place.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:17:54pm
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jaunte  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:18:12pm

re: #37 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:18:33pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They not only put up with Assad in the Obama years. Many of them in fact defended him. Typical right wing hypocritical bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:19:13pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Rule of Acquisition No. 34: war is good for business

Rule of Acquisition No. 35: peace is good for business

Rule of Acquisition No. 76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:21:46pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

I would advise anyone in the area of Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan and Indiana caught up in a police traffic stop to do exactly what the officers tell you…

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:23:01pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:27:21pm

re: #18 Nyet

Yes, it’s a CT and as such not worth anybody’s time.

So let’s discuss the idiotic “wouldn’t bomb his own people” meme instead.

How so? Why wouldn’t he after the US just a couple of days before indicated that it doesn’t care about Assad (and, implicitly, whatever he does)? And Trump indicated for a long time that he would like to make a deal with Assad.

The aim of a gas attack is to intimidate the population and make them give up. Given the background, Assad must have thought that Trump doesn’t give a shit (and Putin would support anything he does anyway). So he does this raid in order to quicken his victory without suspecting that Trump might do 180.

What is supposed to be so unrealistic about it?

You’d need to ask the stooges and conspira-liars who make the claim.
As for the CT, some are more dismissable than others, since real conspiracies do exist. They are worth our time because they, and their pervasive influence, will not go away if we ignore them.
Even so, this one breaks down on several points, the most important being the absence of a quid pro quo for Trump ensuring that the attack was ineffective. Putin has no choice but to react exactly as he has, by condemning Trump and turning against him. He could hardly agree to do otherwise.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:27:24pm

From Sun Tzu’s Art of War: There are three ways in which a sovereign can bring misfortune upon his army: By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey. This is called hobbling the army. By attempting to govern an army in the same way he administers a kingdom, being ignorant of the conditions that obtain in an army. This causes restlessness in the soldiers’ minds. Humanity and justice are the principles on which to govern a state, but not an army; opportunism and flexibility. on the other hand, are military rather than civic virtues.

All of the above and keep in mind that the uncouth one would think that Sun Tzu is a Chinese restaurant.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:30:30pm

If you suffer from acrophobia, don’t watch this video.

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EPR-radar  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:30:53pm

re: #50 calochortus

And even if we could, it’s not like a peaceful, happy democracy will suddenly leap up in his place.

E.g., the Iraq boondoggle under W Bush.

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calochortus  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:31:32pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

E.g., the Iraq boondoggle under W Bush.

Precisely.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:32:23pm

If RWNJs had any sense (which they don’t), they would realize that Putin did not support their candidate out of any great love for Trump, or any kind of affinity for their incoherent ideology. He did it to weaken the United States. In that he has succeeded.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:32:32pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Drive fast, and straight through?

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:33:57pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Dirt roads.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:34:08pm

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel

If RWNJs had any sense (which they don’t), they would realize that Putin did not support their candidate out of any great love for Trump, or any kind of affinity for their incoherent ideology. He did it to weaken the United States. In that he has succeeded.

Thing is a lot of them love Putin and are fine with a weakened U.S. because a lot of them really do hate what the U.S has become and they see Putin as representing their values.

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EPR-radar  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:34:18pm

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel

If RWNJs had any sense (which they don’t), they would realize that Putin did not support their candidate out of any great love for Trump, or any kind of affinity for their incoherent ideology. He did it to weaken the United States. In that he has succeeded.

US right wing nut jobs have created a perfect god in their own image — Donald Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:34:29pm

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel

If RWNJs had any sense (which they don’t), they would realize that Putin did not support their candidate out of any great love for Trump, or any kind of affinity for their incoherent ideology. He did it to weaken the United States. In that he has succeeded.

And the Republicans have sold out America so they could get total control of the country and dismantle the New Deal. They do not care about anything else except power.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:35:43pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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I think this says it all, really. Double standards at the highest level.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:45:35pm

As a student of military history and defense policy, I am actually amazed at how reckless and uninformed Trump really is. It’s as though he believes the far-left (and libertarian) characterization of the US as an aggressive bully nation, but thinks that it’s a good thing.

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allegro  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:46:48pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

As a student of military history and defense policy, I am actually amazed at how reckless and uninformed Trump really is. It’s as though he believes the far-left (and libertarian) characterization of the US as an aggressive bully nation, but thinks that it’s a good thing.

Why wouldn’t he? He’s an aggressive bully and thinks he’s awesome.

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Jenner7  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:50:38pm

My 82 year old Dad fell down the stairs while we were gone. Luckily he wasn’t hurt, but they had to call 911 because my Mom is also disabled and couldn’t help him get up. As their caretaker, I feel guilty about not being there. He promised me he wouldn’t go down the stairs and of course he didn’t listen. So stubborn. My Mom was so angry with him, she told the firemen that they might have to come back because she killed him. lol I came home to yell at him and his response: I really pulled a boner there. Haha. He cracks me up.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:54:04pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Thing is a lot of them love Putin and are fine with a weakened U.S. because a lot of them really do hate what the U.S has become and they see Putin as representing their values.

Good point. This may be one of the defining lines in the rightwing split, since there really are pro-Putin RWNJs . Recent events bring them into conflict with die-hard Trump fans.

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:55:09pm

This tweet probably should have come with a warning, because seeing the screenshot of this grotesque headline literally makes me dry-heave:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:56:28pm

re: #72 Shiplord Kirel

Good point. This may be one of the defining lines in the rightwing split, since there really are pro-Putin RWNJs . Recent events bring them into conflict with die-hard Trump fans.

In my observations, a lot of the Putin fans are religious right assholes.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:57:31pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

This tweet probably should have come with a warning, because seeing the screenshot of this grotesque headline literally makes me dry-heave:

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So, Putin doesn’t have a monopoly on useful idiots after all.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:58:09pm

re: #71 Jenner7

Parents, where would we be without them. Cherish the time you have left with them. I will alway wish for just one last word with mine. Dad left us in 99 and Mom went 4 yrs later.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:58:17pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

This tweet probably should have come with a warning, because seeing the screenshot of this grotesque headline literally makes me dry-heave:

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OFFS. If it was so heartfelt, why didn’t he change his position on refugees? Why hasn’t he done more? Man this is just pathetic. This is really pathetic that this is what it took the media to “normalize” Trump. Nothing has changed at all.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 7:58:32pm

re: #71 Jenner7

These things happen. My dad was caretaker for his mom when she was dying from pancreatic cancer, and yet he still couldn’t keep her from doing stupid shit she shouldn’t have done. Don’t beat yourself up too bad about it, just take care of them as you can and you’ll be just fine.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:00:00pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

In my observations, a lot of the Putin fans are religious right assholes.

The batshit televangelist Rick Wiles is a good example.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:00:20pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

In my observations, a lot of the Putin fans are religious right assholes.

Happy you are right about that! It’s just amazing to see all these right wing pulpit pimps on TV praising Putin as a Man of Gawd. Goes to show just how morally bankrupt these phonies are!

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:01:14pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:01:48pm
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Jenner7  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:04:04pm

re: #78 thedopefishlives

Thank you. :)

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:04:36pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Happy you are right about that! It’s just amazing to see all these right wing pulpit pimps on TV praising Putin as a Man of Gawd. Goes to show just how morally bankrupt these phonies are!

They will finally start to notice Trump’s decadent lifestyle and sin-profiteering business interests now.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:07:06pm

re: #83 Jenner7

Thank you. :)

My dad and mom were miserable toward the end of my grandmother’s life because of the fact that they had to try their hardest to keep her down when she just wanted to keep living as she always had lived. It’s a rough job and I don’t envy you. Just be there when you can and you’ll be just fine.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:08:44pm

Facebook Post

Absolutely gorgeous photography, check it out.

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:09:43pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

This tweet probably should have come with a warning, because seeing the screenshot of this grotesque headline literally makes me dry-heave:

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To paraphrase from a classic film: “There is little room in Trump’s heart for anyone but Trump.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:11:32pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

To paraphrase from a classic film: “There is little room in Trump’s heart for anyone but Trump.”

Forget it, Jake. It’s Trump-town.

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:19:09pm

Oh for the love of…

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:22:16pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

holy fuck

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:24:52pm

re: #90 Jebediah, RBG

holy fuck

INORITE?!?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:25:17pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

INORITE?!?

And right about there is the point where I NOPE the fuck out.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:26:11pm

University of Denver, National Hockey Champs!

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:28:44pm

Is that right? Well, shit!

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:30:21pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Heard Hickenlooper on Wait Wait today; he’s running in 2020, sounds to me. And it’s ok with me, as far as I know now.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:30:41pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Hmm. Well maybe he ought to stop tweeting what has or is going to happen. /half

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Joe Bacon  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:31:11pm

re: #84 Shiplord Kirel

They will finally start to notice Trump’s decadent lifestyle and sin-profiteering business interests now.

I wish you were right, but too many of these Christians have been brainwashed with Republican propaganda for the past 40 years including my family. They will continue to march lockstep with the Republican Party no matter what.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:31:49pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Thing is a lot of them love Putin and are fine with a weakened U.S. because a lot of them really do hate what the U.S has become and they see Putin as representing their values.

The terrifying part of this statement is that they also call themselves “Strict Constitutionalists.” Proving that they have no idea what the constitution actually means. In addition to their lack of understanding, they also have the delusion that they can read the framer’s minds and know exactly what subtleties were meant in the writing. Because the language and context of word play has not changed since the original drafting of the constitution.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:33:24pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Is that right? Well, shit!

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Maybe you shouldn’t telegraph your shitty-ass strategy to the media, then, dumbass.

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Jenner7  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:33:54pm

Seems there is a tweet to make him look dumb for every occasion.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:35:29pm

Great NBC is off the air for some reason… Just a yellow screen

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:35:41pm

re: #95 retired cynic

Heard Hickenlooper on Wait Wait today; he’s running in 2020, sounds to me. And it’s ok with me, as far as I know now.

He’s been an effective governor IMHO. He’s good at coalition-building and is keenly aware that pragmatism is smart governance. He’s also principled, as long as he’s governor the State of Colorado isn’t going to execute anybody (there’s three dudes, all black men, on death row in Colorado and Hickenlooper refuses to sign their death warrants).

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:36:48pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

He’s been an effective governor IMHO. He’s good at coalition-building and is keenly aware that pragmatism is smart governance. He’s also principled, as long as he’s governor the State of Colorado isn’t going to execute anybody (there’s three dudes, all black men, on death row in Colorado and Hickenlooper refuses to sign their death warrants).

It was a good show for it, but he showed a good sense of humor and thinking on his feet, and I think I may insist on that from here on out!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:37:36pm

re: #101 Dave In Austin

Hmm. And my credit union’s website is off line. This does not sound good.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:39:04pm

The three black men on death row in Colorado (in which their guilt is not at all in doubt) all attended the same high school, Aurora High School in Aurora, CO.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:39:42pm

re: #104 PhillyPretzel

Austin Texas is missing SNL tonite. Of all nites.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:40:54pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

And my TV is skipping over ABC. At least PBS is on. :)

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:42:13pm

Arkansas is scheduled to execute eight men this month. Two on the 17th, two on the 20th, two on the 24th, and two on the 27th.

Texas, eat your heart out!

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CBGB  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:42:51pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

again…holy SHIT

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:42:54pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:43:43pm

re: #109 CBGB

again…holy SHIT

Yup. Guy has to carry his balls around in a wheelbarrow.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:50:57pm

See, simple as pie…Jared should nail this all down in a matter if weeks, if not days…

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:52:23pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

ha

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Birth Control Works  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:53:57pm

And Here it is, THE OFFICIAL 2017 Team Oscar T-shirt.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:56:23pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

Because repartitioning sovereign states is such a legal endpoint. Add in the war and the US’s ability to sooo successfully install new regimes, I see all sorts of fuck-ups with that idea.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 8, 2017 • 8:58:16pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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yes, already have my official t-shirt.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:00:16pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Rule of Acquisition No. 34: war is good for business

Rule of Acquisition No. 35: peace is good for business

#10 —Greed is Eternal

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:02:44pm

Good night to my fellow Lizards.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:13:14pm

Heh!

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:22:03pm
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:23:04pm

I took a break from politics and the news for awhile. I feel better for it.

Went and saw this today:

This weekend was the American wide release of Your Name.

Simply stunning. Beautiful and moving beyond whatever I can say here.

It starts pleasantly enough as a light rom com involving two Japanese high school teens, a boy and girl, who switch bodies when they sleep. They cannot stop the occurrence, and after some comedic disorientation, begin to have fun changing each others lives while communicating instructions to each other through texts left on their respective phones. Midway through, the movie becomes something much more, as it meditates on memory, identity, loss and fate.

Readers familiar with 60’s English children’s literature and the 1981 Cure song based on Charlotte Sometimes will be strongly reminded of these themes. Be prepared to cry at points. Above all…see it.

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stpaulbear  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:30:36pm

I’ve been bouncing around YouTube this afternoon/evening watching history programs. This one came up as a sidebar choice. I hadn’t seen it before and it’s kind of pertinent now. I was surprised at how strong a conclusion they make at the end.

The Doomed Voyage of the St Louis Documentary

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:47:05pm

Huh??

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:51:58pm

I’m late to the party here, but that was quite a sketch video, Mr. Johnson.

I sure hope that my comments here aren’t going to come back to me, giving me a mother and a wife. My current mother and wife might have something to say about that.

(In a way the video does say something about all the data that could be collected on a person though.)

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:54:50pm

re: #123 Dave In Austin

Huh??

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Nah, not the Pulitzer but I wonder if Vlad might revive the Stalin Prize? It was pretty good. When aircraft designer Alexander Yakovlev won it in 1940, the swag reportedly included 100,000 Rubles, a nice dacha near Moscow, and a new Pontiac Silver Chief.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 8, 2017 • 9:57:12pm

I’ve mentioned before that Stalin apparently had a thing for Pontiacs, though General Motors understandably did not use this endorsement in their advertising.

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Interesting Times  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:00:59pm

Though at this point, I think I’m more enraged with the MSM enablers who help him get away with it:

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Kragar  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:04:23pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:06:16pm
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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:07:38pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

Nope. Just allows tinnitus to run amok!

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:15:15pm

re: #98 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The terrifying part of this statement is that they also call themselves “Strict Constitutionalists.” Proving that they have no idea what the constitution actually means. In addition to their lack of understanding, they also have the delusion that they can read the framer’s minds and know exactly what subtleties were meant in the writing. Because the language and context of word play has not changed since the original drafting of the constitution.

Not much different than my experience of anyone who claims to “know God’s mind.” Conservatism (like libertarianism) is a religion. And the only part about a religion that matters is not what’s in the holy book, but who interprets the holy book.

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Kragar  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:17:00pm
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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:33:29pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:42:47pm

re: #133 Anymouse

People who believe in Hell cannot fathom why such a threat has no effect on someone who does not believe in Hell.

It’s like telling an adult that Santa is not going to bring him any presents because he was naughty.

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:47:53pm

re: #134 wheat-dogg

People who believe in Hell cannot fathom why such a threat has no effect on someone who does not believe in Hell.

It’s like telling an adult that Santa is not going to bring him any presents because he was naughty.

Yup. Nevertheless, the next person will come along and use the same argument, blithely unaware (or not caring) that it has already been turned away hundreds of times.

And boy, will they be surprised when they finally get to meet Kali. I understand she is a very jealous goddess … probably wouldn’t like it that they denied her.

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TedStriker  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:56:03pm

re: #135 Anymouse

Yup. Nevertheless, the next person will come along and use the same argument, blithely unaware (or not caring) that it has already been turned away hundreds of times.

And boy, will they be surprised when they finally get to meet Kali. I understand she is a very jealous goddess … probably wouldn’t like it that they denied her.

I don’t think that I’d want to fuck around with Kali or her high priests…

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2017 • 10:59:08pm

“Repent or else” isn’t conversion, it’s extortion. If your only argument for my joining your religion is that I join “or else,” I’m going to wonder why your deity don’t do anything about my antics right this minute.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:03:26pm

Oh man SNL totally riffing on the Kendall Jenner Pepsi Ad

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:03:28pm

On Real Time, Bill Maher’s “New Rules” weighs in on ‘what would a dick do’ in reference to the GOP

(I’m not much of a fan of Mr. Maher, but this is pretty funny)

New Rule: What Would a Dick Do? | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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BeachDem  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:08:52pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

Syria is a client state of Russia. That means the US has absolutely no ability to unilaterally get rid of Assad, and people like Haley shouldn’t say such stupid things.

Stupid is her default setting. She is in so far over her head, it is mind-boggling.

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:10:12pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

“Repent or else” isn’t conversion, it’s extortion. If your only argument for my joining your religion is that I join “or else,” I’m going to wonder why your deity don’t do anything about my antics right this minute.

Evidence, such as a lightning bolt taking out a televangelist on live television, might be sufficient for me… (::

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wheat-dogg  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:12:55pm

re: #140 BeachDem

Stupid is her default setting. She is in so far over her head, it is mind-boggling.

Same is true for anyone else in this administration.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:22:56pm

re: #134 wheat-dogg

People who believe in Hell cannot fathom why such a threat has no effect on someone who does not believe in Hell.

It’s like telling an adult that Santa is not going to bring him any presents because he was naughty.

Bingo.

I cannot tell you how many times I have been told they could save me from their imaginary Bad Thing. They don’t get that the fact that I don’t believe in it means their offer is pointless.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:25:34pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

“Repent or else” isn’t conversion, it’s extortion. If your only argument for my joining your religion is that I join “or else,” I’m going to wonder why your deity don’t do anything about my antics right this minute.

“Buy my Magical Beans, or something horrible will happen to you when you eventually die, which has also happened to lots of other people, but after THEY died, too, so there’s no proof! But really, trust me, it’ll happen!!!”

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:25:48pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Bingo.

I cannot tell you how many times I have been told they could save me from their imaginary Bad Thing. They don’t get that the fact that I don’t believe in it means their offer is pointless.

It’s the flip side of Pascal’s wager - that you should worship (their) god because you lose nothing if you’re wrong. Such people don’t seem to understand I don’t believe in a Heaven any more than I do a Hell. (And Pascal’s Wager fails on my Kali example above.)

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Pineapple Pizza  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:27:50pm

re: #134 wheat-dogg

When Jesus talked about “Hell”, he used the term “Gehenna”.

This is Gehenna.

(it’s been cleaned up nicely over the last 2000 years)

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Mattand  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:29:19pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

Looks like a rejected villain from Bioshock Infinite.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:29:19pm

re: #146 Pineapple Pizza

When Jesus talked about “Hell”, he used the term “Gehenna”.

This is Gehenna.

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(it’s been cleaned up nicely over the last 2000 years)

I could live there.

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:31:39pm

re: #146 Pineapple Pizza

When Jesus talked about “Hell”, he used the term “Gehenna”.

This is Gehenna.

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(it’s been cleaned up nicely over the last 2000 years)

Gehenna has paved streets - it’s better off than my town… .

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:33:15pm

re: #145 Anymouse

It’s the flip side of Pascal’s wager - that you should worship (their) god because you lose nothing if you’re wrong. Such people don’t seem to understand I don’t believe in a Heaven any more than I do a Hell. (And Pascal’s Wager fails on my Kali example above.)

Pascal’s wager fails because it’s not really the binary they see. Choosing to believe in THEIR got puts me at odds with somebody else’s god. So, it’s not Either/Or. It’s Either/Or/Or/Or/Or/Or ad infinitum.

But every believer I’ve ever spoken to sees it as HIS god, or no god.

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Mattand  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:33:35pm

re: #146 Pineapple Pizza

When Jesus talked about “Hell”, he used the term “Gehenna”.

This is Gehenna.

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(it’s been cleaned up nicely over the last 2000 years)

Gehenna: conveniently located to shopping, parks, and sulfur pits brimming with roasting souls of the eternally damned. Bonus: best school system in the region!

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Mattand  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:38:22pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Pascal’s wager fails because it’s not really the binary they see. Choosing to believe in THEIR got puts me at odds with somebody else’s god. So, it’s not Either/Or. It’s Either/Or/Or/Or/Or/Or ad infinitum.

But every believer I’ve ever spoken to sees it as HIS god, or no god.

I had one friend basically stating saying he was agnostic, but behaved as if Heaven and Hell were real, just in case.

Which runs headlong into the whole “So the only reason you’re not murdering and raping is because you worried that stuff is real” argument. I didn’t push it because the guy’s feelings get hurt easily.

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Puss Power  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:39:34pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Pascal’s wager fails because it’s not really the binary they see. Choosing to believe in THEIR got puts me at odds with somebody else’s god. So, it’s not Either/Or. It’s Either/Or/Or/Or/Or/Or ad infinitum.

But every believer I’ve ever spoken to sees it as HIS god, or no god.

1) Pascal thought up the wager because he couldn’t find any other reason to believe in a god.

2) The binary thing fails at once in our century. In 17th century Europe, not so much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:42:30pm

re: #153 Puss Power

1) Pascal thought up the wager because he couldn’t find any other reason to believe in a god.

2) The binary thing fails at once in our century. In 17th century Europe, not so much.

Although, to be fair, in 17th Century Europe, people were killing other people in large numbers for not believing in the same god in the right way, and each side thought the other was damned because of it.

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Anymouse  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:45:17pm

re: #153 Puss Power

1) Pascal thought up the wager because he couldn’t find any other reason to believe in a god.

2) The binary thing fails at once in our century. In 17th century Europe, not so much.

Pascal was quite aware of Hinduism and Islam. He rejected those out of hand.

As far as the “only reason not to murder and rape” is a fear of a threat of Hell, I have given the answer “by all means, don’t give up your faith then.” If that is the only reason a person doesn’t murder and rape, it seems to me to be a poor argument for your morality.

I don’t kill and rape because I don’t want to. I will never want to. (And killing and raping is promoted in various holy books anyway.)

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Puss Power  Apr 8, 2017 • 11:56:38pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, to be fair, in 17th Century Europe, people were killing other people in large numbers for not believing in the same god in the right way, and each side thought the other was damned because of it.

The Port Royal people were such a small group that they probably would have argued for tolerance — I don’t really remember.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:06:06am

And people were good with this:

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:13:36am

Nebraska state supreme court overturns 1995 law banning gay couples from adopting children, arguing it is the same as a “whites only” sign.
usnews.com

More at US News

(Reuters) - A former state policy that banned gay couples from becoming foster parents was the same as a “whites only” employment sign, the Nebraska Supreme Court wrote in a ruling released on Friday that affirmed a lower court’s decision.

The ruling comes four years after three same-sex couples filed a lawsuit against Nebraska, arguing that a 1995 state policy prohibiting gay couples from being foster care parents and adopting wards of the state is unconstitutional.

A state district court in 2015 ruled for the couples and ordered the state policy to be rescinded.

The state appealed to the Nebraska Supreme Court on the grounds that the couples did not have standing because they did not apply for and were not rejected for a foster care license or having a state ward placed in their homes.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:15:55am

re: #146 Pineapple Pizza

When Jesus talked about “Hell”, he used the term “Gehenna”.

This is Gehenna.

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(it’s been cleaned up nicely over the last 2000 years)

Sure looks nice today - it did indeed clean up nicely. IIRC, Gehenna was ancient Jerusalem’s garbage dump and generally speaking, not a very nice place.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:26:01am

More on the issue of adoption and foster care at the Omaha World-Herald. They go into more detail than US News. They noted that the policy also prohibited hetero unmarried couples and single people from adopting or fostering children as well.

omaha.com

The case was brought, however, by three same-sex couples.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:01:22am

re: #141 Anymouse

Evidence, such as a lightning bolt taking out a televangelist on live television, might be sufficient for me… (::

Nah, not good enough. Being struck by a safe that had just fallen out of another televangelist’s private jet might do it though. I have read a supposedly true story about some unfortunate type who was struck and killed by lightning immediately after declaiming “May Gawd strike me dead if I’m lying!”

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:02:07am

It’s gotten worse.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:02:37am

I think Dave might be drinking.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:16:51am

“I’m as troubled by violence toward innocent children as the next sociopath, but those kids are only growing up to be oppressors of women and murderers of homosexuals anyway,” said Yiannopoulos in an email.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:19:07am

re: #165 Nyet

Partially unfulfilled projection then. I see you my low.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:20:14am

re: #163 Nyet

Speaking of Duke, I put on the ol’ biohazard suit and wandered on over to Stormfront; opinion is divided regarding Trump. A good many of them regard Trump as a “Zionist shill”, and a smattering of Trump cultists, though I sense some doubt creeping in amongst them. The common consensus that seems to be emerging is that Trump is acting on behalf of Israel (of course….what else would expect from that lot).

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:57:04am

My ex-wife Jezebel is a very pious woman and a great believer in divine intervention. When her husband, my brother Judas, had a massive heart attack a couple of years ago, she was convinced that he survived only because the Hand of God reached out at the last second to spare him. I prefer to think that it was dumb luck and the impartial though indisputably real hand of science. Conversely, she is sure that God has spared me all these years for a reason, though she can’t imagine what it might be. Mysterious are the ways of the Lord!

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:00:37am

Frankly, the mother using her 7 y.o. daughter Bana as an agitprop sockpuppet should have her head checked.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:19:31am

I notice that Makow has gone full-on Nazi. I mean, he uses the J word openly now, he used to speak in code words.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:35:03am

“Trump is a faggot.” Yup, over.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:45:12am
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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:45:39am
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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:09:02am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:26:37am

re: #173 Nyet

How is that photo not anti-Semitic? Ditto Wikileaks’ claim.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:29:20am

re: #163 Nyet

David, the Racist Duke, has turned against Donald, the Bigot-in-Chief? What happened? That certainly was fast. LOL.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:32:25am

Bad news out of Egypt.

A second blast has been reported near a church in northern Egypt, hours after at least 21 people were killed during a Palm Sunday service.

The explosion in front of a church in Alexandria has injured several people, according to state TV.

The earlier blast targeted St George’s Coptic church in the city of Tanta in the Nile Delta, about 130km south-east.

Egypt’s Christian minority has often been targeted by Islamist militants in recent years.

The blasts appear to have been timed for maximum impact, as people gathered to mark Palm Sunday.

Egyptian security forces had been put on alert in anticipation of attacks.

ETA: source - bbc.com

*smdh*

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:34:09am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

David, the Racist Duke, has turned against Donald, the Bigot-in-Chief? What happened? That certainly was fast. LOL.

Syria.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:43:50am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

David, the Racist Duke, has turned against Donald, the Bigot-in-Chief? What happened? That certainly was fast. LOL.

The Sunday Morning Gasbags will use this as proof that President Pee Pee is moving towards the center…

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 4:54:45am

Sigh.

Holocaust survivor Irene Zisblatt shares story of struggle and strength with Penn State community

While in the Auschwitz camp, Zisblatt had to repeatedly swallow the diamonds and excrete them in order to keep them from being taken from her.

“Every time I saw danger I swallowed them,” Zisblatt said. “Once a week, once a month, [it] depends what happened that day.”

[…]

Zisblatt was on the brink of extermination as she was escorted to a gas chamber with 1,500 women. The gas chamber wasn’t big enough for all of the women to fit in, so Zisblatt dug her nails to the wood that surrounded the outside of the chamber. When the guards were ordered to shut the door, she was in the way and got pulled out of the doorway. Since she only weighed fifty pounds at the time, she hid in between the ceiling of the gas chamber and the shelter roof until a Jewish boy tasked with working the gas chamber found her. He covered her naked body with his jacket and sent her on a train leaving Auschwitz for a labor camp.

Repeating such tall tales as the “survivor truth” is playing into the hands of the deniers.

Albeit Zisblatt was indeed in Auschwitz (though she incorrectly claims she had a tattoo and that it got removed by Mengele - she actually never had one since she was a so-called “transit Jew” and they did not get tattoos because they were not officially registered in the camp), her book and her lectures are full of exaggerations and false claims and in no way can be seen as reliable sources.

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:05:48am

A lone giraffe stops by for brunch:

African Animal Lookout Camera powered by EXPLORE.org

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:06:13am

Chinese, Indian, and Pakistani naval vessels intercepted a merchant vessel hijacked by pirates off the coast of Yemen, stormed the ship, and freed the crew.
bbc.com

The pirates apparently fled the ship as the naval forces approached. The crew had locked themselves in a safe room aboard the vessel when it was boarded.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:19:05am

re: #139 Anymouse

Yeah, I’ve stopped watching Maher after the election. Can’t get with his Islamophobia.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:26:42am

re: #86 teleskiguy

When we were in Moab to visit Arches, Canyonlands, and Mesa Verde, the La Sal Mountains always loomed in the distance like the Misty Mountains from the Lord of the Rings books (that’s what the Mrs. and I called them). The terrains is surreal all around that area. Gorgeous photos, and the only thing is I wish the Mrs. was into skiing, because then we’d hit the slopes on our trips too.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:30:08am

Sergel Square, Stockholm, Right Now.
Image: 680.jpg
Image (c) 2017 expressen.se

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:30:18am

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

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See, simple as pie…Jared should nail this all down in a matter if weeks, if not days…

Reward the Kurds…

That will go over so well with Turkey.

Turkey’s barely tolerated a semi autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq (and there’s been cross-border incursions/attacks for years). They’re not going to tolerate a Kurdish enclave, let alone independent Kurdish region in Syria either.

These people have so little understanding of the geopolitical situation, let alone the ethnonationalism or religious divides in the region.

I’m waiting for the next bit - “We’ll be hailed as liberating heroes”

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I cannot.  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:31:57am
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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:46:29am

re: #186 lawhawk

Reward the Kurds…

That will go over so well with Turkey.

Turkey’s barely tolerated a semi autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq (and there’s been cross-border incursions/attacks for years). They’re not going to tolerate a Kurdish enclave, let alone independent Kurdish region in Syria either.

These people have so little understanding of the geopolitical situation, let alone the ethnonationalism or religious divides in the region.

I’m waiting for the next bit - “We’ll be hailed as liberating heroes”

I imagine Turkey would like that about as much as the would like to be overrun by Russia.

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jeffreyw  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:52:10am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:54:39am

The Basque Separatist Group in France disarms, and turns over a 3.5 tonne cache of weapons to the French police.
bbc.com

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I cannot.  Apr 9, 2017 • 5:59:35am

So, was listening to the BBC news on NPR, sounds like even the BBC is having missilegasms over Syria AND the carrier group headed toward North Korea…we’re boned.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:04:18am

re: #31 scottslemmons

I can second that recommendation. One of the most deeply affecting horror novels I’ve read. I still sit around sometimes and think really, really hard about the ending.

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Maybe you’re thinking of: A Head Full of Ghosts: A Novel by Paul Tremblay.

I’m Facebook friends with Paul. He does a fair number of readings in the Boston area. Cool dude.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:12:30am

re: #191 I cannot.

So, was listening to the BBC news on NPR, sounds like even the BBC is having missilegasms over Syria AND the carrier group headed toward North Korea…we’re boned.

Well, it’s a good thing I can’t get NPR here then. I didn’t hear it so it mustn’t be true. /s

I figure I’ll know we’re boned when I get to see our giant Roman candles parked in the High Plains go up around here (Minuteman III’s). That will give me about half an hour to go pop popcorn.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:14:30am

re: #193 Anymouse

Well, it’s a good thing I can’t get NPR here then. I didn’t hear it so it mustn’t be true. /s

I figure I’ll know we’re boned when I get to see our giant Roman candles parked in the High Plains go up around here (Minuteman III’s). That will give me about half an hour to go pop popcorn.

Half-hour? Just wait till you see the flash and it’ll pop in a microsecond.

Of course, you’ll likely go pop in a microsecond too, but them’s the breaks, right?

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:19:13am

re: #194 Dr Lizardo

Half-hour? Just wait till you see the flash and it’ll pop in a microsecond.

Of course, you’ll likely go pop in a microsecond too, but them’s the breaks, right?

Well, I do want to eat it …

On the other hand, there will be five hundred thousand head of cattle in my county roasted right on the hoof. I could climb out of my cyclone cellar and chow down … ummm … HP Sauce and fallout flavour … extremely well done… .

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:20:12am

re: #195 Anymouse

Well, I do want to eat it …

On the other hand, there will be five hundred thousand head of cattle in my county roasted right on the hoof. I could climb out of my cyclone cellar and chow down … ummm … HP Sauce and fallout flavour … extremely well done… .

Ooooh…….instant beef jerky!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:20:33am

Back in a bit…..gotta hit the shops.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:21:16am

What was that about Mr. Trump saying he would keep his military plans secret to keep opponents guessing… .

US Strike Group Heads toward North Korea (goes to Voice of America)

I’m sure the DPRK doesn’t monitor our nation’s official shortwave organ… .

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:22:05am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

Ooooh…….instant beef jerky!

That and we’d have a lot of rotisserie chicken (without the rotisseries)

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I cannot.  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:30:28am

re: #198 Anymouse

And I’m sure they don’t monitor Twitter either.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:44:07am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:45:49am

Since I’m prowling around VOA at the moment:

US Sanctions Eritrean Navy over North Korean Links

The United States imposed sanctions on Eritrea’s navy over purchasing military equipment from North Korea.

Eritrea has long been on the UN’s and the USA’s bad-boy’s list for dealings with North Korea as well as its authoritarian government.

Equipment was interdicted being sold to Eritrea by North Korea through a Malaysian company.

Eritrea denies violating UN sanctions on North Korea. North Korea and Malaysia apparently had no comment.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 6:55:38am

pressroom.rferl.org

Radio Free Europe has published a number of colour films and photographs from the 1950’s of Moscow during the Soviet era, including what is believed to be the only non-official film of Stalin’s funeral.

WASHINGTON - RFE/RL has published never-before-seen color images of life in the Soviet Union in the 1950s, from a trove of original video and photographs that was recently discovered in cardboard boxes in a former auto body shop in the Pacific Northwest of the United States.

The archive belonged to U.S. Army Major Martin Manhoff, who spent more than two years in the Soviet Union in the early 1950s, serving as assistant army attaché at the U.S. embassy. From his vantage point at the embassy, then located just off Moscow’s Red Square, he filmed what is thought to be the only independent footage of Stalin’s funeral procession, providing an unfiltered view of the event not conveyed in official Soviet reels.

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Anymouse  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:08:59am

rferl.org

Radio Free Europe is claiming that Russian social media is abuzz with the question “Where the hell were our missile defences” in regard to Syria.

The Russian Federation made a big show of deploying its S-400 surface-to-air missile system after Turkey shot down one of its aircraft nearly two years ago.

Speculation ranges from “the system didn’t work” to “the Americans deliberately picked a path to avoid the systems” to “Russia chose not to use it.”

S-400 SAM systems use four missiles to cover a range of distance from in close to hundreds of kilometres away.

Aytech Bizhev, the former deputy commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, told Interfax that the “flight path was set to bypass our missile-defense system so that they would not enter our strike range. The Americans are also not idiots.”

but there was this in the article… .

Nonetheless, the perceived inefficacy of the S-400s prompted an outburst of snarky commentary on Russian language social networks, with one Twitter user writing: “Listen, I just want to check — is Moscow also secured by S-300 and S-400s?”

More at RFE/RL.

Sometimes its good to see what our own official organs are putting out over the air.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:35:50am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:53:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:55:10am

Damn. @LindseyGrahamSC says Assad is telling Trump “F- You!” by launching from #syriastrike base

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:56:42am

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Pascal’s wager fails because it’s not really the binary they see. Choosing to believe in THEIR got puts me at odds with somebody else’s god. So, it’s not Either/Or. It’s Either/Or/Or/Or/Or/Or ad infinitum.

But every believer I’ve ever spoken to sees it as HIS god, or no god.

They can’t all be right, but they could all be wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 7:57:03am
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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:01:35am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

McCain is right though, the only encouragement Assad could get for the gassing is from getting the signals from Trump that blind eye will be turned.

Trump is partially to blame.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:08:34am

re: #210 Nyet

McCain is right though, the only encouragement Assad could get for the gassing is from getting the signals from Trump that blind eye will be turned.

Trump is partially to blame.

The way I figure it, Tillerson’s remarks the day before the gas attack was probably interpreted by Assad as giving him carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wanted.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:12:38am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

The way I figure it, Tillerson’s remarks the day before the gas attack was probably interpreted by Assad as giving him carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wanted.

And Haley’s remarks earlier too.

The buck stops with Trump though.

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EmmaAnne  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:14:57am

re: #129 teleskiguy

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Ritalin wasn’t invented until the 1950s.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:35:51am

re: #204 Anymouse

rferl.org

Radio Free Europe is claiming that Russian social media is abuzz with the question “Where the hell were our missile defences” in regard to Syria.

The Russian Federation made a big show of deploying its S-400 surface-to-air missile system after Turkey shot down one of its aircraft nearly two years ago.

Speculation ranges from “the system didn’t work” to “the Americans deliberately picked a path to avoid the systems” to “Russia chose not to use it.”

S-400 SAM systems use four missiles to cover a range of distance from in close to hundreds of kilometres away.

but there was this in the article… .

More at RFE/RL.

Sometimes its good to see what our own official organs are putting out over the air.

I’ve seen it speculated (OK, by a few blog-commenters, but it’s a valid speculation anyway) that the Shayrat strike was designed* for that very purpose: mainly to test Russian/Russian-designed missile-defense capabilities: on-ground damage and/or casualties being a secondary consideration. Though conducting a live-fire exercise against hostile forces is probably a better environment for testing…

*If so, it was probably something long-planned by the Pentagon: I can’t imagine the idiot crew we have in the WH now coming up with a militarily-sophisticated exercise like this on short notice.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:39:52am

re: #214 Jay C

One better hope that it is true, because otherwise it’s one of the most expensive ads ever, and nothing else.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:53:51am
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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:54:09am

re: #210 Nyet

McCain is right though, the only encouragement Assad could get for the gassing is from getting the signals from Trump that blind eye will be turned.

Trump is partially to blame.

But Nikki says Trump is so compassionate.

rawstory.com

(of course, about a year ago she said “Donald Trump is everything we teach our kids not to do in kindergarten,” Haley said. “We have seen behavior over and over again that is just unacceptable.”

In so far over her head, she needs SCUBA gear.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:54:49am

re: #215 Nyet

One better hope that it is true, because otherwise it’s one of the most expensive ads ever, and nothing else.

Maybe: but on that count, it will be hard to beat the Iraq War of 2003…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:57:20am

re: #216 Birth Control Works

Ms Milano seems to have more brains than the uncouth one.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 9, 2017 • 8:57:29am

Was this already shared?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:00:23am
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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:02:23am

re: #139 Anymouse

This is the kind of thing I’ve called the ‘Deification of the Asshole’ for years at this point.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:03:29am

Mr Robot. Yes or No?

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:04:19am

re: #212 Nyet

And Haley’s remarks earlier too.

The buck stops with Trump though.

It does. This missile attack was a mere warning.

I tried to sift and fact check some obvious points. The question of why the vaunted Russian SAM systems left the attack unscathed is interesting. I made this to show a general idea of the range of some Russian systems. It’s from a simulation game, with a database more or less from Janes. Israel has hit Syria a few times in recent years and seems to avoid taking any casualties.

Triumph S-400 SAM range.

It seems Russian policy is to reserve those missiles as a threatened and affordable (compared to squadrons of fighters) no fly zone.

If one looks at what the Tomahawk can and can not do well, runways are on the not well list. It seems the only way to do that is dropping a bunch of glide bombs from an attack squadron.. A far riskier escalation.

Then I saw this

Island chess. Meanwhile, in the South China Sea, China has sent a fighter jet to an island in the South China Sea also claimed by Vietnam and Taiwan. The Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative obtained satellite imagery showing a Chinese J-11 fighter parked on Woody Island in the Paracel Island. China has sent military aircraft to the island before on a rotational basis, but the J-11’s appearance marks the first known appearance during the Trump administration.

Challenged on all sides, likely compromised by Russia Trump may lash out again. Where are the cooler heads? Absent.

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:06:15am

Can any of these idiots form a coherent sentence? (Rhetorical question)

Nikki Haley, this morning:

“Regime change is something that we think is going to happen because all of the parties are going to see that Assad is not the leader that needs to be taking place for Syria.​”​

Also, it might help if they had some modicum of agreement on what their “plan” is before they go and shoot off their mouths on the teevee machine.

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sagehen  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:07:04am

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

Mr Robot. Yes or No?

It’s densely detailed; you have to pay close attention. Not a casual background watch.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:12:42am

So now that we are practically on board the regime change in Syria train. Why wouldn’t Assad use more chemical weapons? My god. These fucking republicans.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:15:06am

re: #173 Nyet

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Thanks Obama. /

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:15:31am

re: #226 sagehen

It’s densely detailed; you have to pay close attention. Not a casual background watch.

Thanks.
The first episodes seem very dark and very anti-corporate. Not sure if they can keep it up.

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:35:40am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Isn’t he saying that to Ivanka. I read it was her idea.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:43:13am

re: #134 wheat-dogg

People who believe in Hell cannot fathom why such a threat has no effect on someone who does not believe in Hell.

It’s like telling an adult that Santa is not going to bring him any presents because he was naughty.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:47:39am

re: #231 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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My usual response to online Hell-threateners is either “don’t let me keep you”, or “after you, sir/madam”, depending on how polite I feel.

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:48:47am

re: #232 Jay C

My usual response to online Hell-threateners is either “don’t let me keep you”, or “after you, sir/madam”, depending on how polite I feel.

“You’re going straight to Hell!”
“I’ll see you there!”

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steve_davis  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:50:00am

re: #71 Jenner7

My 82 year old Dad fell down the stairs while we were gone. Luckily he wasn’t hurt, but they had to call 911 because my Mom is also disabled and couldn’t help him get up. As their caretaker, I feel guilty about not being there. He promised me he wouldn’t go down the stairs and of course he didn’t listen. So stubborn. My Mom was so angry with him, she told the firemen that they might have to come back because she killed him. lol I came home to yell at him and his response: I really pulled a boner there. Haha. He cracks me up.

mine’s 87 and I’m basically his caretaker, though he’s mentally good enough to still spend his Sundays filling a pulpit in any one of three counties. He hasn’t gotten to where he falls down stairs yet, but a couple of times a year he does manage to fall out of his bed because he sleeps so damned close to the edge of the thing.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 9:51:40am

re: #233 Targetpractice

“You’re going straight to Hell!”
“I’ll see you there!”

Or the old joke about the angry participants in a lawsuit:

“I’ll see you in State Court!”
“I’ll be there!”
“I’ll see you in Federal Court!”
“I’ll be there!”
“I’ll see you in Hell!!”
“My lawyer will be there!!”

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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:04:41am

So who’s looking forward to Jeff Sessions leading the way to a new decimation of minority neighborhoods all in the name of a new War on Drugs?

Because it sure as hell looks like it’ll happen, post-haste

But there was one person who watched these developments with some horror. Steven H. Cook, a former street cop who became a federal prosecutor based in Knoxville, Tenn., saw nothing wrong with how the system worked — not the life sentences for drug charges, not the huge growth of the prison population. And he went everywhere — Bill O’Reilly’s show on Fox News, congressional hearings, public panels — to spread a different gospel.

“The federal criminal justice system simply is not broken. In fact, it’s working exactly as designed,” Cook said at a criminal justice panel at The Washington Post last year.

[…]

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has brought Cook into his inner circle at the Justice Department, appointing him to be one of his top lieutenants to help undo the criminal justice policies of Obama and former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr. As Sessions has traveled to different cities to preach his tough-on-crime philosophy, Cook has been at his side.

Sessions has yet to announce specific policy changes, but Cook’s new perch speaks volumes about where the Justice Department is headed.

Law enforcement officials say that Sessions and Cook are preparing a plan to prosecute more drug and gun cases and pursue mandatory minimum sentences. The two men are eager to bring back the national crime strategy of the 1980s and ’90s from the peak of the drug war, an approach that had fallen out of favor in recent years as minority communities grappled with the effects of mass incarceration.

These assholes are signaling for the greatest crackdown since the 80s, and it’s obvious who’s going to bear the brunt of it. This despite, you know, the amount of drug related violence not rising in any appreciable way since we went ‘soft on crime’, as they put it. To hear them say it, we’re still a drug ravaged hellhole. if they want to see drugs and ravaging, look at the fucking opiod crisis…but I forget, that’s not a crime epidemic, that’s a health epidemic since the ones suffering the worst of it aren’t fucking brown.

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steve_davis  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:05:17am

re: #234 steve_davis

mine’s 87 and I’m basically his caretaker, though he’s mentally good enough to still spend his Sundays filling a pulpit in any one of three counties. He hasn’t gotten to where he falls down stairs yet, but a couple of times a year he does manage to fall out of his bed because he sleeps so damned close to the edge of the thing.

Here he is this afternoon, by the way, returned from St. George’s (or maybe St. James. Can’t remember. Too lazy to ask.) You know those people who insist they’ll die with their boots on? Here’s a case in point. Of course, it’s also true that he is arguably the finest Episcopal priest on the Eastern seaboard, so I’m kind of proud of him!

Anglican priest in full chimney-sweeping regalia
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:14:58am

Louise being Louise. SMH

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:25:40am

re: #237 steve_davis

Here he is this afternoon, by the way, returned from St. George’s (or maybe St. James. Can’t remember. Too lazy to ask.) You know those people who insist they’ll die with their boots on? Here’s a case in point. Of course, it’s also true that he is arguably the finest Episcopal priest on the Eastern seaboard, so I’m kind of proud of him!

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You’re a lucky son.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:26:17am

re: #238 JordanRules

Louise being Louise. SMH

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That’s why they say she sees a Russian under every bed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:42:29am

re: #233 Targetpractice

“You’re going straight to Hell!”
“I’ll see you there!”

My usual response is, “Or not.”

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:43:32am

Hacking blamed for emergency sirens blaring across Dallas early Saturday

Dallas officials blame computer hacking for setting off emergency sirens throughout the city early Saturday.
Rocky Vaz, director of Dallas’ Office of Emergency Management, said that all 156 of the city’s sirens were activated more than a dozen times.
Officials don’t know who was responsible for the hacking, but Vaz said “with a good deal of confidence that this was someone outside our system” and in the Dallas area.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:43:35am

re: #236 Citizen K

So who’s looking forward to Jeff Sessions leading the way to a new decimation of minority neighborhoods all in the name of a new War on Drugs?

Because it sure as hell looks like it’ll happen, post-haste

These assholes are signaling for the greatest crackdown since the 80s, and it’s obvious who’s going to bear the brunt of it. This despite, you know, the amount of drug related violence not rising in any appreciable way since we went ‘soft on crime’, as they put it. To hear them say it, we’re still a drug ravaged hellhole. if they want to see drugs and ravaging, look at the fucking opiod crisis…but I forget, that’s not a crime epidemic, that’s a health epidemic since the ones suffering the worst of it aren’t fucking brown.

Moral of the story: the next time someone like Shaun King or Deray McKesson starts thinking about protesting conditions under a Democratic President…s/he shouldn’t do it because they only empower Republicans, who are much, much, much worse.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:46:52am

re: #243 Brian J.

Snark?

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:47:49am

We took care of wife’s mom for about the last 10 years of her life. She was doing quite well, even swimming 2x a week. Until she fell down the basement stairs and badly broke her shoulder and collarbone. Don’t let elderly people walk around with socks on (unless they have grippy bottoms). Grab bars in shower and toilet.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:48:40am

Valid question:

Will Assad use more chemical weapons? That question requires further questions. Does he have more stockpiles no one knows about? Plausible. How long would it take for him to make another batch for use in a weapons system? Experts would understand the difficulties and time to produce based on the fact Assad remains under sanctions and there’s an ongoing civil war.

Did he acquire the chemical weapons from his benefactor (I suggest this highly unlikely and improbable).

I’ve been watching right wingers like Ari Fleischman try to dump blame on Obama for the fact that Assad still had chemical weapons to use. None of them take any of the aforementioned questions into consideration, or that the only reason Assad decided to use chemical weapons on civilian populations was he got a wink/nod from Trump that regime change wasn’t going to happen.

Moreover, Assad’s killed more than 400,000 in his democide to remain in power. Chemical weapons are a tiny percentage of all the casualties, but those are the ones Trump acted upon with a half-assed ineffectual missile strike. Russia’s laughing all the way to the bank as they know Assad’s gonna be paying for more Russian systems, the conflict could bump the price of oil (helping Russia’s faltering economy, along with those of Iran), and Trump continues to bumble and stumble from one conflict to another with no idea what he’s doing. In fact, his underlings can’t even get on the same page as turmoil continues around Trump. McFarland’s out at NSC and the rest of the incompetents are fighting for primacy and Trump’s ear (whoever whispers last gets their policy heard for the minute).

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:50:46am

re: #244 JordanRules

Snark?

Nope. Discouraging Democratic voters from voting for Democrats is never a good idea. Private appeals to mayors and district attorneys would have done more good and less harm than providing wavering voters with scenes of Democratic disarray, and encouraging uncertain Republican voters. I’m generally down on the value of any kind of protest other than checking the box next to the (D) on the ballot, because that’s the only one that directly leads to new policy.

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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:51:51am

re: #243 Brian J.

Moral of the story: the next time someone like Shaun King or Deray McKesson starts thinking about protesting conditions under a Democratic President…s/he shouldn’t do it because they only empower Republicans, who are much, much, much worse.

Uhh….what?

re: #247 Brian J.

Nope. Discouraging Democratic voters from voting for Democrats is never a good idea. Private appeals to mayors and district attorneys would have done more good and less harm than providing wavering voters with scenes of Democratic disarray, and encouraging uncertain Republican voters. I’m generally down on the value of any kind of protest other than checking the box next to the (D) on the ballot, because that’s the only one that directly leads to new policy.

I don’t think the protests like BLM and such were the prime cause here, and I don’t see where Deray falls into this. Shaun King I understand because he ended up actively advocating against Clinton outright and such, but…yeah, I don’t see how the protests directly lead to things like what Sessions wants and will do.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:53:09am

re: #248 Citizen K

Uhh….what?

To give a more concrete example of my reasoning:

BLM marches in streets -> cops shot in Dallas during march -> white people in suburbs think they’re in danger -> Republican president -> Crackdown on “black-on-black crime.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:54:16am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

The way I figure it, Tillerson’s remarks the day before the gas attack was probably interpreted by Assad as giving him carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wanted.

My memory is hazy on this but wasn’t the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait triggered by comments from perhaps the US ambassador suggesting that we had no interest in the dispute between Iraq and Kuwait? That led to the Iraqi war and continued the conflict in that region.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:54:32am

re: #236 Citizen K

So who’s looking forward to Jeff Sessions leading the way to a new decimation of minority neighborhoods all in the name of a new War on Drugs?

Because it sure as hell looks like it’ll happen, post-haste

These assholes are signaling for the greatest crackdown since the 80s, and it’s obvious who’s going to bear the brunt of it. This despite, you know, the amount of drug related violence not rising in any appreciable way since we went ‘soft on crime’, as they put it. To hear them say it, we’re still a drug ravaged hellhole. if they want to see drugs and ravaging, look at the fucking opiod crisis…but I forget, that’s not a crime epidemic, that’s a health epidemic since the ones suffering the worst of it aren’t fucking brown.

Trump’s and Sessions’ view of the world:
Drugs = POC’s.
Unemployment = POCs
Welfare = POCs
Unwed mothers = POCs
Gun violence = POCs
Violent Crime = POCs
And all blacks are unemployed welfare cheats living on welfare, doing drugs, having babies out of wedlock and shooting each other.

This is why Trump says, “What have you got to lose?”, because he really thinks that’s how it is. There are no successful black people except rappers, Don King, and Ben Carson. Everyone else lives in the worst urban hellscape you can imagine, and he’ll save them by militarizing police to bring order to the ghettos, where, of course, all blacks live.

And they’ll be SO HAPPY with this, they’ll give him 95% of their vote in 2020.

Ever notice how he promises to bring JOBS to white folks in the Rust Belt and Coal Country, but ORDER to the black folks in the cities?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:55:55am

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump’s and Sessions’ view of the world:
Drugs = POC’s.
Unemployment = POCs
Welfare = POCs
Unwed mothers = POCs
Gun violence = POCs
Violent Crime = POCs
And all blacks are unemployed welfare cheats living on welfare, doing drugs, having babies out of wedlock and shooting each other.

This is why Trump says, “What have you got to lose?”, because he really thinks that’s how it is. There are no successful black people except rappers, Don King, and Ben Carson. Everyone else lives in the worst urban hellscape you can imagine, and he’ll save them by militarizing police to bring order to the ghettos, where, of course, all blacks live.

And they’ll be SO HAPPY with this, they’ll give him 95% of their vote in 2020.

Ever notice how he promises to bring JOBS to white folks in the Rust Belt and Coal Country, but ORDER to the black folks in the cities?

Good points as always.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:57:15am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

My memory is hazy on this but wasn’t the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait triggered by comments from perhaps the US ambassador suggesting that we had no interest in the dispute between Iraq and Kuwait? That led to the Iraqi war and continued the conflict in that region.

(Ambassador April) Glaspie had her first meeting with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, on July 25, 1990.

The transcript has Glaspie saying:

“We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America.”

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:57:27am

re: #248 Citizen K

Conflating King and Deray is just one issue here. I’m just going to get a six pack of Pepsi and try to not think about the rest of them right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:57:50am

re: #249 Brian J.

To give a more concrete example of my reasoning:

BLM marches in streets -> cops shot in Dallas during march -> white people in suburbs think they’re in danger -> Republican president -> Crackdown on “black-on-black crime.”

Wow, this is like a return to the 60s. Back then it was “The Negroes shouldn’t push so hard for Civil Rights, because it makes too many white people uncomfortable. They need to be patient, and we’ll get around to them eventually.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:58:55am

re: #249 Brian J.

To give a more concrete example of my reasoning:

BLM marches in streets -> cops shot in Dallas during march -> white people in suburbs think they’re in danger -> Republican president -> Crackdown on “black-on-black crime.”

So what. They have a right to protest and bad Democrats i.e. Bob McCulloch should be protested. Protest shouldn’t be discouraged because people feel threatened by it.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:58:59am

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Wow, this is like a return to the 60s. Back then it was “The Negroes shouldn’t push so hard for Civil Rights, because it makes too many white people uncomfortable. They need to be patient, and we’ll get around to them eventually.”

Richard Nixon owes his Presidency to that being America’s majority position in 1968. And it still is.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:59:33am

re: #249 Brian J.

Before I get my savior Pepsis just one quick observation.

Who has all the power, choices and benefit in your scenario? Funny that.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 10:59:57am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

So what. They have a right to protest and bad Democrats i.e. Bob McCulloch should be protested. Protest shouldn’t be discouraged because people feel threatened by it.

They have a right (for now) but they needed a show a little common sense and recognize how likely it was that they would bring backlash upon their heads, and upon the rest of us.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:00:20am

re: #258 JordanRules

Before I get my savior Pepsis just one quick observation.

Who has all the power, choices and benefit in your scenario? Funny that.

I’m not saying that’s right. I’m saying, a la Bruce Hornsby, that’s the way it is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:01:29am

re: #253 Brian J.

(Ambassador April) Glaspie had her first meeting with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, on July 25, 1990.

The transcript has Glaspie saying:

“We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America.”

The language of diplomacy is difficult, but international relationships are fraught with potential misunderstanding. Staffing foreign policy with people who don’t even know how to convey messages that will be understood is bad. REAL bad.

Topping all off with a President who is ignorant, arrogant in that ignorance, and almost completely unteachable is worse. MUCH worse.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:01:42am

Allies yo. Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:02:15am

re: #259 Brian J.

They have a right (for now) but they needed a show a little common sense and recognize how likely it was that they would bring backlash upon their heads, and upon the rest of us.

People were threatened by Colin Kaepernick not standing for the national anthem. The people you’re talking about see anything by racial minority groups as a threat to them.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:03:30am

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

The language of diplomacy is difficult, but international relationships are fraught with potential misunderstanding. Staffing foreign policy with people who don’t even know how to convey messages that will be understood is bad. REAL bad.

Topping all off with a President who is ignorant, arrogant in that ignorance, and almost completely unteachable is worse. MUCH worse.

Agreed. George HW Bush understood diplomacy as well as anyone alive, and he still got burned by ambiguous words spoken by someone several rungs down the government ladder. (Those might not be the exact words; there are at least two versions of the transcript.) When the guy at the very top of the chain is unknowing and easily confused…

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:04:59am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

People were threatened by Colin Kaepernick not standing for the national anthem. The people you’re talking about see anything by racial minority groups as a threat to them.

And they outnumber POCs. And they vote like hell, which many POCs don’t or can’t. Not pissing them off should be very high on the strategy of any minority group that isn’t seeking outright armed confrontation or Republican victory.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:07:25am

I’ve lost count of all the things that “gave us Trump”. And I’m sick of white people and our fucking feelings and fears and anger and not getting a pony.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:10:09am

re: #265 Brian J.

And they outnumber POCs. And they vote like hell, which many POCs don’t or can’t. Not pissing them off should be very high on the strategy of any minority group that isn’t seeking outright armed confrontation or Republican victory.

And what about these people? They should stay silent because a bunch of overly sensitive assholes can’t stand that people are upset about police brutality?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:10:20am

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve lost count of all the things that “gave us Trump”. And I’m sick of white people and our fucking feelings and fears and anger and not getting a pony.

Indeed.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:11:37am

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

The language of diplomacy is difficult, but international relationships are fraught with potential misunderstanding. Staffing foreign policy with people who don’t even know how to convey messages that will be understood is bad. REAL bad.

Topping all off with a President who is ignorant, arrogant in that ignorance, and almost completely unteachable is worse. MUCH worse.

Forty years earlier, it was an accepted meme (though later disproven) that then-SoS Dean Acheson had “encouraged” North Korea to invade the South in 1950 by the simple omission of Korea from a speech about Asian defense he had made. Well that, and the drawdown of American forces in SK. Yeah, “the language of diplomacy is difficult”, which is why simpler expressions like “BOOM!!!” are often substituted.

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:15:18am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

My memory is hazy on this but wasn’t the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait triggered by comments from perhaps the US ambassador suggesting that we had no interest in the dispute between Iraq and Kuwait? That led to the Iraqi war and continued the conflict in that region.

April Glaspie.

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:17:11am

Kendall K took time out from her photoshoot and that blond wig for your civil rights.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:19:29am
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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:22:12am

I’ve had to reconcile the fact that saying aloud what appears to be happening makes me sound like a conspiracy kook. But it sure seems like a Wag the Dog scenario. Lots of spin and disinformation coming from multiple angles with differing motives, takes some work.

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Puss Power  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:27:23am

re: #257 Brian J.

Richard Nixon owes his Presidency to that being America’s majority position in 1968. And it still is.

Not a thing to do with the Vietnam war, no, no, no….

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:28:57am

re: #274 Puss Power

Not a thing to do with the Vietnam war, no, no, no….

Not really, considering Nixon didn’t just continue it but escalate it. He never said he had a “secret plan” to end the war (per Michael Cohen’s American Maelstrom) because he wasn’t even that specific.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:33:30am

re: #273 BigPapa

I’ve had to reconcile the fact that saying aloud what appears to be happening makes me sound like a conspiracy kook. But it sure seems like a Wag the Dog scenario. Lots of spin and disinformation coming from multiple angles with differing motives, takes some work.

I have been feeling the same, especially since it was clear the bombing accomplished nothing — only destroyed a few aircraft without impeding the Syrians or the Russians at all. But again “small” actions can trigger much larger, potentially catastrophic events, especially in the hands of an ignorant President, who thinks he can run the world like his real estate company.

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:34:14am

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

The language of diplomacy is difficult, but international relationships are fraught with potential misunderstanding. Staffing foreign policy with people who don’t even know how to convey messages that will be understood is bad. REAL bad.

Topping all off with a President who is ignorant, arrogant in that ignorance, and almost completely unteachable is worse. MUCH worse.

Example 1 of 11ty million:

While China was saying, “Xinhua, the state news agency, on Saturday called the strike the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles,”

the yam was spouting this bullshit about his “very successful meeting” with Xi: “I believe lots of very potentially bad problems will be going away.”

Then there’s Tillerson, who can’t even make eye contact, and Haley, who can’t form a coherent sentence or maintain the same position from the beginning to the end that sentence.

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Puss Power  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:34:15am

re: #275 Brian J.

Not really, considering Nixon didn’t just continue it but escalate it.

Which led to his election? Did he have a Tardis too?

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:35:04am

re: #278 Puss Power

Which led to his election? Did he have a Tardis too?

Sure didn’t hurt his re-election. And he never said he was going to end the war.

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Puss Power  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:37:41am

re: #279 Brian J.

Sure didn’t hurt his re-election. And he never said he was going to end the war.

No, he just said he prosecute it better, and took advantage of the splits in the Democratic party to eke out a razor-thin popular vote victory.

I’m through with this conversation — have to get ready to leave anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:45:29am

uh huh….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:46:31am
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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:47:06am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did it take him 3 hours to send the second half of that Tweet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:47:58am

re: #283 stpaulbear

Did it take him 3 hours to send the second half of that Tweet?

actually, they were about a minute apart

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:49:03am

re: #279 Brian J.

Sure didn’t hurt his re-election. And he never said he was going to end the war.

Well, take it from an ancient geezer one who was there: Nixon may not have baldly stated that he “had a plan to end the war” - secret or otherwise - but he HAD campaigned on a pledge to “end it” (though details were not forthcoming either then or later). Which he did, more or less: even though it took three more years of war, hugely escalated combat, and vast amounts of bloodshed and suffering. By reelection time in 1972, the US’ involvement in Vietnam had been wound down to the point where it was no longer the bleeding cancer in the body politic it had been. Which certainly helped Nixon’s reelection efforts: the Democrats’ nomination of George McGovern as the “antiwar” candidate was seen as an anachronism even at the time: I’m not sure we’ve ever recovered from its effects even four decades on…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:49:03am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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After Gorsuch was confirmed of course.

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:49:16am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

actually, they were about a minute apart

That makes more sense.

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EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:51:31am

re: #265 Brian J.

And they outnumber POCs. And they vote like hell, which many POCs don’t or can’t. Not pissing them off should be very high on the strategy of any minority group that isn’t seeking outright armed confrontation or Republican victory.

That is impossible to do. The only thing racial minorities can do that will not piss off the racist filth of the Republican base is to go off and die somewhere, quietly. Similarly, the only thing non-straight people can do that will not piss off the Republican base is to die.

So fuck them. Political strategy for Democrats cannot be based on trying to make incorrigible bigots and racists happy. They simply need to be outnumbered at the polls.

Edited to add: And to hell with the notion that POC should self-censor their protests to assuage the delicate feelings of white racists. This business of cops killing black people at will is totally unacceptable and should be protested. Any real protest situation is going to be complicated and messy, and the racists and racist-enablers will always find something in the protests that the protestors are supposedly ‘doing wrong’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:54:05am
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thecommodore  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:54:14am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:54:42am

re: #290 thecommodore

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Yawn.

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Donkey With No Name  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:54:59am

re: #265 Brian J.

Not to be overly blunt about it, but given demographic trends, the opposite will be true in a couple of decades.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:55:47am

re: #292 Donkey With No Name

Not to be overly blunt about it, but given demographic trends, the opposite will be true in a couple of decades.

The Republicans can slow that with immigration restrictions, and render it meaningless with voter suppression, gerrymandering, and the Electoral College.

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2017 • 11:59:12am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

Christ, I hope the secret service tears that helipad out just before the next president takes office. Fuck if he should get to keep any upgrades to his personal property other than the bare bones of what’s needed for his post-presidency security.

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Donkey With No Name  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:05:28pm

re: #293 Brian J.

At some point that will cease to matter. And the more they attempt to rig, the heavier it will fall on them.

There’s a theory that the fear of minorities arises due to the suspicion (conscious it otherwise) that minorities in power will behave in the same discriminatory ways. This generally isn’t true, but somehow it never occurs to people that a way to avoid this being a self-fulfilling prophecy is to avoid being assholes.

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bratwurst  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:05:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:07:36pm

re: #296 bratwurst

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It’s not a Trump weekend without him golfing.

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:07:37pm

re: #296 bratwurst

CNN’s @tuoheyk spots Trump golfing again

It pisses me off that the media has to behave like papparazzi stalking a fucking Kardashian to get a picture of this guy.

One of many things that piss me off these days.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:07:37pm

Sorry, this looks fishy to me. I may be wrong on this, but isn’t that “G-TRMP” registration number on that helicopter a British, rather than an American registration?

And also: are there really hills that high in Palm Beach?

(Just a guess, this pic was probably taken at one of Trump’s UK properties - Scotland?)

Doesn’t make the ridiculous expenses for Mar-A-Lago “improvements” any better, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:10:58pm

re: #299 Jay C

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Sorry, this looks fishy to me. I may be wrong on this, but isn’t that “G-TRMP” registration number on that helicopter a British, rather than an American registration?

And also: are there really hills that high in Palm Beach?

(Just a guess, this pic was probably taken at one of Trump’s UK properties - Scotland?)

Doesn’t make the Mar-A-Lago expenses any better, though.

Might just be a random photo that The Hill used for the tweet.

Here’s an article from Palm Beach Daily News yesterday that shows the Trump helicopter at the Marine One helipad at Mar-a-lago (photo and video):
palmbeachdailynews.com

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EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:12:31pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

It’s not a Trump weekend without him golfing.

The only thing that bothers me about Trump’s incessant golfing is the hypocrisy of Trump and the Republicans bitching endlessly and tediously about the times Obama golfed and saying absolutely nothing now.

Other than this exceptionally petty example of IOKIYAR, I approve of Trump’s golfing. Every minute he spends doing that is one less minute he could spend on stealing and wrecking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:16:02pm
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Jay C  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:17:29pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

Might just be a random photo that The Hill used for the tweet.

Here’s an article from Palm Beach Daily News yesterday that shows the Trump helicopter at the Marine One helipad at Mar-a-lago (photo and video):
palmbeachdailynews.com

OK: that makes it clearer (even if posting a wrong location makes The Hill look sloppy). It sure looks like the same copter, though: still, why the British registration (and how did it get across the Atlantic)? I thought The Donald believed in “buy American”?

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:23:14pm

re: #295 Donkey With No Name

a way to avoid this being a self-fulfilling prophecy is to avoid being assholes.

And give up their religion?

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:31:05pm

“…1. The wall is a decoy, a fake, a lie.

2. But he means it.

Did you get that?”

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:32:46pm

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is on the phone with Priebus asking “How can I do that?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:33:34pm

O_o

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:44:43pm

The misinformation will be automated.

“….The Role of Botnets in Amplifying Alternative Narratives

These data also provide insight into the effect of automated accounts (botnets) on the data. For example, the most tweeted domain in our data was TheRealStrategy[dot]com. It was tweeted so many times (7436) and connected to so many domains (relative to all other domains) that we had to remove it from the graph. [It was the only highly cited, highly connected media domain we removed.] Examining the temporal patterns (tweets over time) suggests that almost all of the tweets that linked-to this domain were generated by a computer program. That program operated hundreds of different accounts, directing them to tweet out in regular bursts (dozens at the same time). Most often, these tweets linked to TheRealStrategy, but the program also sprinkled in tweets linking to other alternative media domains. Closer analysis revealed many of these Twitter accounts to have similar profile descriptions and to use photos stolen from other people online. This is a very sophisticated botnet that seems to be effectively bringing “real” accounts into its friend/following networks — and primarily propagating conspiracy theories and politicized content.

The InfoWars site was the second-most highly tweeted in our data set (1742 times). Almost all of the tweet activity citing InfoWars came from a coordinated set of accounts — all were similarly named and each sent a single tweet linking to one of two InfoWars articles about different alternative narratives of different shooting events. All of these accounts are now suspended. Though not as sophisticated as TheRealStrategy, this botnet did amplify the content of InfoWars, which was occasionally picked up and retweeted by others.”

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2017 • 12:58:40pm

Dayum

Camera crew in Alberta, Canada captures man leaping into frozen pond to save his dog.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:17:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:18:22pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

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well, you know what they say about jazzy ponytails…

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:27:54pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, you know what they say about jazzy ponytails…

My ponytail has gotten so jazzy, I’m considering a trim, for the first time in two years. I asked for a ‘grow-it-out’ haircut, and grow out it has. I should at least tip that woman once a year. I’d trim it myself, like I used to do, but then I might be embarrassed to go back to the pro. I’m in that space where I’d like a neat trim, but don’t want it any shorter. They can do that, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:28:00pm

last night:

Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer held a rally outside the White House tonight & he was glitter bombed in the face. Run Richard run …

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:39:44pm

re: #298 makeitstop

It pisses me off that the media has to behave like papparazzi stalking a fucking Kardashian to get a picture of this guy.

One of many things that piss me off these days.

why? we elected a reality TV celebrity

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:45:42pm

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why? we elected a reality TV celebrity

He did a TV version of an attack on Syria because they messed up his TV viewing the way the war in Vietnam did (with sad videos on the evening news).

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:52:21pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

Ever notice how he promises to bring JOBS to white folks in the Rust Belt and Coal Country, but ORDER to the black folks in the cities?

Bingo!

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 9, 2017 • 1:59:15pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:10:44pm

re: #309 Stanley Sea

Dayum

[Camera crew in Alberta, Canada captures man leaping into frozen pond to save his dog.]

Brit won’t jump in for boys:

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:11:57pm

re: #317 Shiplord Kirel

This was a bill the our rebub. governor didn’t sign, but allowed to pass into law. If he had vetoed it, the legislature would most likely have been able to overturn. MD currently has the ability to overturn most of Hogan’s vetoes; VA has the ability to currently uphold any of McAuliffe’s vetoes. All is good.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:14:59pm

Gov. McAuliffe keeps a perfect veto record

RICHMOND, Va. - Terry McAuliffe not only set a record for the number of bills vetoed by a Virginia governor. He also has a perfect record for the number of vetoes sustained.

Republicans in the General Assembly failed to override any of the 40 vetoes that the Democratic governor issued on bills passed during this year’s legislative session, including measures that sought to increase voting requirements and make it easier to carry concealed weapons.

During his four years in office, McAuliffe has vetoed a total of 111 bills - more than any of his predecessors. None of them have been overturned, Susan Swecker, chairwoman of the Democratic Party of Virginia, noted.

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Interesting Times  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:16:48pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:17:18pm

re: #320 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Gov. McAuliffe keeps a perfect veto record

How many has he signed? Does the legislature pass anything that has merit?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:19:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:20:14pm

re: #320 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So basically if Va gets a GOP governor they’re fucked.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:21:11pm

It’s VA. Keeping the SoVA contingent from getting their anachronistic ideas out of law is important. The lege is a majority repub. there, but not enough to override his vetoes. As to useful stuff, can’t answer. VA is a 4th-dimensional hell hole that I avoid. I just hear stuff on the radio.

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Nyet  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:21:39pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:21:50pm

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

So basically if Va gets a GOP governor they’re fucked.

Long and hard with a rusty spiked dildo; no lube.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:27:07pm

re: #325 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s VA. Keeping the SoVA contingent from getting their anachronistic ideas out of law is important. The lege is a majority repub. there, but not enough to override his vetoes. As to useful stuff, can’t answer. VA is a 4th-dimensional hell hole that I avoid. I just hear stuff on the radio.

Hey!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:30:48pm

re: #330 Stanley Sea

Thanks, it came out awesome, USDA Prime FTW

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(alpuz)  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:39:29pm

re: #328 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Beautiful! You’ll only get better!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 9, 2017 • 2:51:44pm

re: #332 (alpuz)

Thanks!

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2017 • 3:30:00pm

re: #264 Brian J.

When translators are incapable of figuring out what Trump’s saying during official meetings, that increases the chances something will get misunderstood, misremembered, or simply not translated properly.

That’d be bad enough in a real estate deal, but it’s downright deadly in international relations where words have serious consequences.

In fact, to take one example - there’s two translations of UN SCR 242 (French and English, and both have equal force under the law).

In one version, the key phrase is “the territories” and in the other “territories”. What does a simple preposition mean?

For the Arabs and Israelis, it’s the difference between a belief that Israel can hold on to some territories captured in 1967, and the belief that Israel must withdraw from all territories captured.


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