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451_Montag  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:32:00pm

rawstory.com

Color me shocked…. Again

Banning secretly received payments from Mercer SuperPAC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:38:26pm

It was Jeff Sessions who brought him in.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:38:53pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:39:27pm
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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:40:01pm

I’ve come to the conclusion that the song I’ve marginally had stuck in my head recently is a result of the Mandela Effect. I know it’s a song, I know that I’ve heard it more than once. But I can find no evidence that the song actually exists.

If anyone wants to prove the Mandela Effect false, I’m still kinda looking for a song with a line along the lines of “she wears a red fascinator.” I am fairly certain that it’s one of those uptempo blues style songs (think Joe Cocker).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:40:25pm

CHICAGO (AP) — The Latest on the removal of a passenger who was dragged off a United Express flight in Chicago (all times local):

4 p.m.

Two more airport police officers involved in dragging a passenger off a United Express flight at Chicago’s O’Hare Airport have been placed on leave.

The announcement Wednesday from the city’s Aviation Department comes two days after another officer involved in the Sunday night confrontation was put on leave.

The department said it is continuing its investigation.

Dr. David Dao was forcibly removed from a full flight after refusing to relinquish his seat. On Thursday, the city’s aviation commissioner is expected to address a city council committee about the incident.

Video of the incident has been shown around the world. The head of United’s parent company has scrambled to contain the damage to the carrier’s reputation.

Meanwhile, attorneys for Dao took a step toward legal action Wednesday by filing court papers asking the Cook County court to preserve reports and other material related to the incident.

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451_Montag  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:41:28pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It was Jeff Sessions who brought him in.

Page will fold, has no loyalty and will do anything to save jail time IMHO

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:43:44pm

Best comment: “They’d have better luck if they put his picture on bottles of Jameson Irish whiskey”

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:44:58pm

Excellent article by rick pearlstein

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:45:38pm

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:50:35pm
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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:53:39pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:55:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 2:56:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:01:21pm

OK, I have to walk my dogs. Someone let me know, when I get back in 30 minutes or so, if North Korea started WWIII.2 sub para b.13d

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:02:13pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Trump doesn’t get briefed because no one can tell Trump anything. He’s the smartest man in the world, after all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:02:14pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

So, basically, this guy who said we’re being led by stupid people, who said he knew more than the generals, who said he’d do all this stuff and it would be very easy, who made absolute declaration after absolute declaration about how stupid this or that was, and how nobody knew the system better than him, so he alone could fix it - THAT GUY is doing a 180 on practically EVERYTHING, because he’s learning that he was wrong about EVERYTHING.

Why, it’s almost as if all those ‘very stupid people’ actually knew what they were doing, and Trump didn’t have a fucking clue!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:08:33pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart

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saw this article earlier today:

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:13:50pm

re: #16 Skip Intro

Trump doesn’t get briefed because no one can tell Trump anything. He’s the smartest man in the world, after all.

And apparently 10 minutes is the total length of his attention span.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:14:04pm

Regarding the “church police” thing:

The church I go to has around 1200 members. It is also a school. We have a security team of mostly military veterans and retired law enforcement. Most people on the team have CCWs.

Our head Pastor is very particular about who gets on the team. Only those with extensive firearms safety training and related experience are considered.

Also, they know when a matter is serious enough to be turned over to the police.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:14:10pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

saw this article earlier today:

Record turnip harvest?
Nope, wrong season.
Avionics upgrade for MiG-17s?
Expansion of anti-aircraft range?
New purchase of surplus East German school uniforms?

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:20:04pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Why was Trump not briefed by someone — anyone! — at state or WH? These are delicate, high stakes meetings.

Hard to fit all that information in the PDB when it can only be one page and four bullet points instead of 15-20 pages as it normally is.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:20:43pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

“Surprise” B-Day Party for Dear Leader.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:22:08pm

People are saying that the Trump quote about Bannon, that he hasn’t really known him that long, etc. was like when Michael Corleone kisses Fredo. But I’m thinking it’s more like when Al Capone stands up and starts walking around the table with a baseball bat, talking about teamwork…

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:22:58pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

Also, I feel like that conversation probably went something like the first 45 seconds of this clip:

Falling Down (3/10) Movie CLIP - Mr. Lee (1993) HD

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:25:04pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Regarding the “church police” thing:

The church I go to has around 1200 members. It is also a school. We have a security team of mostly military veterans and retired law enforcement. Most people on the team have CCWs.

Our head Pastor is very particular about who gets on the team. Only those with extensive firearms safety training and related experience are considered.

Also, they know when a matter is serious enough to be turned over to the police.

Sounds like your church, EC, has it pretty together when it comes to security, but how are they organized? Just volunteer congregants? Hired pros? The Alabama thing seems weird* since it appears to have taken an Act of the Lege to authorize the Briarwood Church to form its own “department”: and I still haven’t seen or read any explanations as to the difference in status.

* OK, it’s Alabama…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:25:57pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

And “enthusiasms”. What a wicked scene.

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Nyet  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:31:00pm

I’m drunk and I’m in a good mood, so I’ll just say this: fuck Trump.

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:31:01pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Record turnip harvest?
Nope, wrong season.
Avionics upgrade for MiG-17s?
Expansion of anti-aircraft range?
New purchase of surplus East German school uniforms?

Marshal Kim Jong-Un will announce the launching of Big Dong missiles at the imperialist Hawaiian Islands while dining on delicious chocolate cake.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:34:55pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

Marshal Kim Jong-Un will announce the launching of Big Dong missiles at the imperialist Hawaiian Islands while dining on delicious chocolate cake.

Hits Lubbock by mistake. Damage in the hundreds of dollars.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:35:42pm

re: #28 Nyet

I’m drunk and I’m in a good mood, so I’ll just say this: fuck Trump.

I guess Trump was right - relations with Russia ARE at an all time low!
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:37:59pm

re: #26 Jay C

Sounds like your church, EC, has it pretty together when it comes to security, but how are they organized? Just volunteer congregants? Hired pros? The Alabama thing seems weird* since it appears to have taken an Act of the Lege to authorize the Briarwood Church to form its own “department”: and I still haven’t seen or read any explanations as to the difference in status.

* OK, it’s Alabama…

Our group is 100% voluntary like our standard ministry teams. People do it because they want to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:38:13pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

Hits Lubbock by mistake. Damage in the hundreds of dollars.

hit one of those Lubbock prepper bunkers and the fireworks will be fabulous.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:42:05pm

This weirdo is well known to veteran lizards:
Religious Right Talk Show: Wombs of Women on Birth Control “Embedded With Dead Babies”

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:42:49pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Record turnip harvest?
Nope, wrong season.
Avionics upgrade for MiG-17s?
Expansion of anti-aircraft range?
New purchase of surplus East German school uniforms?

Getting those sweet new analog transistor instruments in the cockpit!

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Scout  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:42:55pm

This North Korean business is scaring the heck out of me. It doesn’t help that I live so close. I fear Japan would be their first (easiest) target.

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:42:58pm

FLOTUS wins damages and costs of around $3 million in $150 million escort lawsuit.

bbc.com

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:44:33pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

FLOTUS wins damages and costs of around $3 million in $150 million escort lawsuit.

bbc.com

The Trump way.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:45:20pm
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:45:46pm

re: #36 Scout

This North Korean business is scaring the heck out of me. It doesn’t help that I live so close. I fear Japan would be their first (easiest) target.

Yeah, Japan would get hit. There is a reason why those Kongo class destroyers are integrated into the air defense grid.

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Nyet  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:48:39pm

I’m on season 5 of Adventure Time. They doubled the no. of episodes. Fuck.

Still great though.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:49:43pm

I’ve been staying away from the news and playing Evony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:50:29pm

re: #42 Scottish Dragon

I’ve been staying away from the news and playing Evony.

I’m trying work up the enthusiasm to finish my damned income tax returns.

It’s not working…

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Archangelus  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:51:24pm

In today’s category of “RWNJ lunacy taken to new heights”…

A North Carolina Republican state representative said in a Facebook post that former President Abraham Lincoln was a “tyrant” as bad as German dictator Adolf Hitler.

The Raleigh News and Observer said Wednesday that Concord Republican Rep. Larry Pittman was responding to marriage equality supporters on social media after he introduced a bill to the state House urging the state the defy the U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage for all 50 states.

A commenter told Pittman that the highest court in the land had decided the question and urged him to “get over it.”

Pittman responded, “And if Hitler had won, should the world just get over it? Lincoln was the same sort if tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.”

So much for the So-Called Party of Lincoln…

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Nyet  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:52:45pm

re: #44 Archangelus

Problem is, he and Hitler supported very similar ideological ideals.

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:52:57pm

re: #44 Archangelus

Note to self: Stay far away from any state that has a compass direction as part of its name.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:54:56pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

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Nyet  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:55:13pm

“Family values” and such Southern crap was the staple of the Kinder Küche Kirche ideology.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 3:57:58pm

re: #26 Jay C

Sounds like your church, EC, has it pretty together when it comes to security, but how are they organized? Just volunteer congregants? Hired pros? The Alabama thing seems weird* since it appears to have taken an Act of the Lege to authorize the Briarwood Church to form its own “department”: and I still haven’t seen or read any explanations as to the difference in status.

* OK, it’s Alabama…

I really think “being black” will be one of the offenses the police will handle.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:01:23pm

re: #42 Scottish Dragon

I’ve been staying away from the news and playing Evony.

I’ve been heads-down in work because my future at the company could be in jeopardy.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:03:51pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:04:20pm

The kindest heartfelt message for our President* that I can think of at the moment is a wish for him to disappear up his own rectum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:07:34pm

hahahahahahaaa…no

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:10:20pm

oh, this also happened for those who were following:

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:15:41pm

re: #44 Archangelus

Lincoln was the same sort if tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.

This is so wrong that I don’t even know where to begin. What the fuck do they teach in US History in the South?

I mean, seriously, Lincoln hadn’t even been sworn into office when seceded South Carolina and then fired on Ft Sumter (which was, for anyone keeping score at home, a US Army base). And technically, it wasn’t a war, because the Confederacy was not a separate country - it was a rebellion. Which, also, technically speaking, was unnecessary and unconstitutional, but not because of Lincoln’s actions…

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:16:55pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart

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Howard also wrote Night of the Cooters, a wry and ingenious account of a small north Texas coping with the same Martian invasion H.G. Wells described in War of the Worlds. The story is dedicated to the late Slim Pickens. After seeing that dedication you cannot possibly imagine anyone else as the story’s Martian-confronting sheriff.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:21:04pm

re: #55 KGxvi

This is so wrong that I don’t even know where to begin. What the fuck do they teach in US History in the South?

I mean, seriously, Lincoln hadn’t even been sworn into office when seceded South Carolina and then fired on Ft Sumter (which was, for anyone keeping score at home, a US Army base). And technically, it wasn’t a war, because the Confederacy was not a separate country - it was a rebellion. Which, also, technically speaking, was unnecessary and unconstitutional, but not because of Lincoln’s actions…

Lincoln was President when Fort Sumter was attacked.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:22:46pm

re: #55 KGxvi

This is so wrong that I don’t even know where to begin. What the fuck do they teach in US History in the South?

They don’t teach US History. They teach Confederate Mythology.

In history they are rebels against a lawfully elected government. In mythology they are brave warriors standing against tyranny and in defence of traditional values.

As always, mythology is comforting while history is not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:24:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:24:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:24:57pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:25:17pm

re: #58 Romantic Heretic

They don’t teach US History. They teach Confederate Mythology.

In history they are rebels against a lawfully elected government. In mythology they are brave warriors standing against tyranny and in defence of traditional values.

As always, mythology is comforting while history is not.

Especially when the historical truth is that the US confederacy is one of the worst causes over which a large scale war has ever been fought.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:26:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:27:06pm

Last night I spoke with Xi - BUT I DON’T KNOW PUTIN & Xi is president of China. We will do North Korea alone. But alone with others. #Trump

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:27:27pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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WTF?

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:27:43pm

Regarding the OP, ‘jackass’ is much too mild a term to use for POTUS* 45. “Piece of shit” is kind of entry-level here.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:27:50pm

Ultra-cool break
Antique electronics from The Streamline Moderne Era: Los Angeles in the 1930s and 1940s

1940 Zenith Wavemagnet table radio:

1948 Fada model 930 12” TV:

1933 Air King Model 66 Ivory Plaskon Tube Radio:

1937 Sears Silvertone radio:

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:29:32pm

re: #50 thedopefishlives

I’ve been heads-down in work because my future at the company could be in jeopardy.

Oy!
Fingers crossed for the safety of your employment!

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:30:00pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:30:03pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:30:54pm

Still battling the flu here. Did follow up with Dr and she put me on stronger antibiotics and cough syrup. Sleeping on and off again…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:32:18pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:35:07pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:37:16pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:41:06pm

Remember this story?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:43:47pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:44:54pm

Comin’ in *hot!*

Pond Skimming to the Max!

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:45:05pm

re: #57 Timothy Watson

Lincoln was President when Fort Sumter was attacked.

Lincoln was president-elect when Fort Sumter was attacked. It was attacked in December 1860, Lincoln wasn’t sworn in until March 4, 1861.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:45:19pm

In Sierra Blanca

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:45:23pm

Kick ass, take names:

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Timothy Watson  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:47:19pm

re: #78 KGxvi

Lincoln was president-elect when Fort Sumter was attacked. It was attacked in December 1860, Lincoln wasn’t sworn in until March 4, 1861.

Fort Sumter was attacked April 12, 1861. Lincoln had already dispatched a relief convey to the Fort before it was attacked.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:48:54pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Okay, so let me see if I understand this -

Trump, through Tillerson, tells Assad he’s not our concern.

Assad decides to test this, and ‘throws a little gas’.

Ivanka pouts and gets Daddy to bomb those nasty Syrians because Assad broke the baby-killing rules by doing something other than shooting them, blowing them up, or crushing them under the debris of something else he’s blown up.

Trump gives the Russians lots of warning, so they give the Syrians lots of warning, and then launches an attack so ineffectual that Syria was able to use the same airfield later that same day to go back to babykilling the old fashioned way.

Putin makes a show of being angry.

Trump, through Tillerson, tells Assad he’s not our concern, but don’t do that again.

And now, somehow, Trump’s no longer a Putin Puppet? Because…..?

So, if we really are on the outs with Russia, doesn’t that make it Ivanka’s fault?

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:49:28pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

Saw it earlier. It will only matter if he’s actually convicted.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:49:39pm

re: #81 Timothy Watson

Fort Sumter was attacked April 12, 1861. Lincoln had already dispatched a relief convey to the Fort before it was attacked.

Source link

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:49:51pm

re: #78 KGxvi

Lincoln was president-elect when Fort Sumter was attacked. It was attacked in December 1860, Lincoln wasn’t sworn in until March 4, 1861.

Not quite: while So. Carolina, and a bunch of other states had seceded and formed the Confederacy before 3/4/1861, the actual “attack - i.e. the bombardment - of Ft. Sumter didn’t take place until April 12. Lincoln was, by then, President.

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:50:15pm

re: #81 Timothy Watson

Fort Sumter was attacked April 12, 1861. Lincoln had already dispatched a relief convey to the Fort before it was attacked.

You’re right, misreading my history. South Carolina seceded in December 1860, but shots weren’t fired until April 1861.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:54:56pm

re: #73 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:55:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 4:56:58pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:02:52pm
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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:06:13pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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Do NOT read the comments. I repeat—do NOT read the comments.

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:08:27pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Going it alone means going it with lots of other nations”

Alrighty then.

What an asshole he is.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:09:08pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

People are saying that the Trump quote about Bannon, that he hasn’t really known him that long, etc. was like when Michael Corleone kisses Fredo. But I’m thinking it’s more like when Al Capone stands up and starts walking around the table with a baseball bat, talking about teamwork…

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It’s all about trying to build a firewall against all the shit shows to come. Trump’s already so far in over his head that he thinks dumping Bannon or anyone else might help him stave off his inevitable end.

Trump was up to his eyeballs in compromised advisers and cronies. Flynn. Manafort. Page. Kushner. Those are the big 4. All of them lied about their foreign contacts. All are in real serious trouble, and Kushner’s the only one left in the admin by sheer dumb luck.

The others have already been dispatched, but that doesn’t end the trouble. Dumping Bannon wont change things either. Trump’s busy getting rid of a bunch of mercenaries who know where all the proverbial bodies are buried, and who knew what and when. They will turn on Trump to save himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:10:08pm

re: #94 lawhawk

It’s all about trying to build a firewall against all the shit shows to come. Trump’s already so far in over his head that he thinks dumping Bannon or anyone else might help him stave off his inevitable end.

Trump was up to his eyeballs in compromised advisers and cronies. Flynn. Manafort. Page. Kushner. Those are the big 4. All of them lied about their foreign contacts. All are in real serious trouble, and Kushner’s the only one left in the admin by sheer dumb luck.

Add Sessions to that list.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:10:25pm

re: #92 BeachDem

Do NOT read the comments. I repeat—do NOT read the comments.

Or do read them and upvote the people who are chastising the idiots so it’s clear that most Americans are not stupid bigots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:13:20pm

heh

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:14:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:14:16pm

re: #94 lawhawk

It’s all about trying to build a firewall against all the shit shows to come. Trump’s already so far in over his head that he thinks dumping Bannon or anyone else might help him stave off his inevitable end.

Trump was up to his eyeballs in compromised advisers and cronies. Flynn. Manafort. Page. Kushner. Those are the big 4. All of them lied about their foreign contacts. All are in real serious trouble, and Kushner’s the only one left in the admin by sheer dumb luck.

The others have already been dispatched, but that doesn’t end the trouble. Dumping Bannon wont change things either. Trump’s busy getting rid of a bunch of mercenaries who know where all the proverbial bodies are buried, and who knew what and when. They will turn on Trump to save himself.

“in over his head”.

Yeah. I’ve lived through 11 Presidents, and this is the first time I’ve ever looked at the guy in WH and thought I could do a better job.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:17:11pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Excellent article by rick pearlstein

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Damn, that was depressing. It’s coded in our DNA.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:17:12pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Though, to be fair, the guy running the demonstration might have told that woman not to lean BACK before releasing the pendulum, then FORWARD after.

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:17:17pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Add Sessions to that list.

I might, if I were being cynical (who me?) also add Pence to the list. After all, it was Manafort who engineered the whole Pence thing in the first place.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:18:23pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Troll Level 11

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:19:56pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:21:09pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed. Trump is the Fox News comments section crossed with Donny From Queens calling into WFAN talk radio to say how he’s so much better at doing drafts than the experts, all because he was born for the role of GM.

Reality is that most anyone would do better than Trump - mostly because people are more likely to understand their limitations and would seek out the best people for the job - not like Trump’s people whose qualifications depend on being 100% loyal to the president and their intentions are cruelty and sabotaging govt operations.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:27:00pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

Troll Level 11

The yam is going to blow a gasket.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:28:13pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

It is a pity we cannot sell popcorn at an event like this. We could make a lot of money.

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:29:37pm

re: #94 lawhawk

Flynn. Manafort. Page. Kushner.

Sessions.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:29:39pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:31:28pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

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I guess Ivanka wasn’t crying then.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:32:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:33:33pm

re: #105 lawhawk

Indeed. Trump is the Fox News comments section crossed with Donny From Queens calling into WFAN talk radio to say how he’s so much better at doing drafts than the experts, all because he was born for the role of GM.

Reality is that most anyone would do better than Trump - mostly because people are more likely to understand their limitations and would seek out the best people for the job - not like Trump’s people whose qualifications depend on being 100% loyal to the president and their intentions are cruelty and sabotaging govt operations.

As the saying goes, “Life is hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.” To which I’d add, it’s harder still when you don’t realize you’re stupid.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:34:07pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

Just so long as someone keeps track of the blunders. /half

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:38:07pm

he is so full of sh*t…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:39:44pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:43:05pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:48:29pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

The yam is going to blow a gasket.

It would be awesome if Obama got much more press than the vulgar talking yam, and more praise. Merkel ought to make that happen. :)

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:50:02pm

re: #117 BlueSpotinAL

That would be a beautiful sight. And I agree completely Merkel can make it happen.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:51:52pm

Watching Congressman Mike Coffman of Colorado’s 6th District getting raked over the coals at his first townhall since Fuckface Von Clownstick took office. Juicy!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 5:58:06pm

oh…

.@PressSec: “[President #Trump] has done a phenomenal job of reasserting our place in the world.” #oreillyfactor

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:01:38pm

The Pearlstein article in the NYT is okay, but it misses a lot, suggesting the writer is still blind to a lot of the seamier side of Conservatism.

For example, he talks about the ‘sunny optimism’ of Ronald Reagan, but not the barely hidden racism. He talks about how America is a center-right country, but later in discussing a disconnect between the support for Republicans but not Republican policies doesn’t put together that a country that doesn’t support center-right POLICIES is by definition NOT a center-right country. And he really misses out on the depth of racism in both society and especially on the Right.

He wants so badly for Americans to hate statism that he misses the extent to which racial animus drove the working class whites to the GOP - people who supported all the New Deal programs when they were primarily for white people stopped supporting them when they were painted as primarily helping Those People.

It’s like a GOOD therapy session, but lacking an actual breakthrough.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:02:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:05:46pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

“[President #Trump] has done a phenomenal job of reasserting our place in the world.”

Right. On the day he reversed on China being a currency manipulator and being able to control NK, and the day he admits that NATO isn’t obsolete, and the day Tillerson waits for Putin to deign to grant him an audience, we ‘reasserted our place’.

“The Farce is strong in this one.”

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:09:37pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

The Pearlstein article in the NYT is okay, but it misses a lot, suggesting the writer is still blind to a lot of the seamier side of Conservatism.

For example, he talks about the ‘sunny optimism’ of Ronald Reagan, but not the barely hidden racism. He talks about how America is a center-right country, but later in discussing a disconnect between the support for Republicans but not Republican policies doesn’t put together that a country that doesn’t support center-right POLICIES is by definition NOT a center-right country. And he really misses out on the depth of racism in both society and especially on the Right.

He wants so badly for Americans to hate statism that he misses the extent to which racial animus drove the working class whites to the GOP - people who supported all the New Deal programs when they were primarily for white people stopped supporting them when they were painted as primarily helping Those People.

It’s like a GOOD therapy session, but lacking an actual breakthrough.

One sign of this fundamental disconnect is that the author regards WF Buckley et al. as being civilized people instead of the crypto-fascists that they were.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:11:04pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

One sign of this fundamental disconnect is that the author regards WF Buckley et al. as being civilized people instead of the crypto-fascists that they were.

But they were CIVILIZED crypto-fascists, with cultured accents!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:13:40pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

The other thing that would really help the healing would be if they realized that Buckley was justifying brutal racist policies in erudite, patrician prose, so in a very real sense all of modern conservatism was poisoned from the start.

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:13:51pm

re: #122 lawhawk

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Toddy and Will Folks have always had a love/hate relationship. This filing sounds like a poorly written memoir, which implies that Toddy wrote it his own self.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:14:28pm

Well, the three hour power outage the power company scheduled for my town actually took most of the day… .

The new tornado siren the village board chairwoman was driving around with in the trunk of her car (because it was delivered to her at work) was installed this afternoon. The village just tested it. It’s a whole lot louder than the old siren and sounds like a Sixties air-raid siren.

Considering all the missiles around us, that could be confusing.

The mail just delivered a brand-new scythe and a John Deere basket-blade style lawnmower (my wife called them “presents”).

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:15:19pm

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

But they were CIVILIZED crypto-fascists, with cultured accents!

WF Buckley’s project amounted to providing a veneer of civilization for the US right at a time when it was thoroughly discredited.

Nothing of substance about the right was changed by this pretense. Therefore Buckley’s approach ensured the eventual triumph of the Birchers and other cranks, as we presently see with Trump and his awful supporters.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:16:07pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:16:16pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing that would really help the healing would be if they realized that Buckley was justifying brutal racist policies in erudite, patrician prose, so in a very real sense all of modern conservatism was poisoned from the start.

It may be different in other parts of the world, but in the US conservatism that is not essentially racist is inconceivable.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:19:37pm

Oh this is gooooood

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:20:21pm

re: #130 lawhawk

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:20:55pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:22:21pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

I fucking love how they source the stories these days

according to interviews Wednesday with 21 of Trump’s aides, confidants and allies.

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:22:41pm

re: #127 BeachDem

Toddy and Will Folks have always had a love/hate relationship. This filing sounds like a poorly written memoir, which implies that Toddy wrote it his own self.

I love this bit:

Defendant Folks revealed enough specifically personally identifying information about his source to permit Plaintiff to identify one source …(this assumes defendant Folks was truthful with Plaintiff in his conversations, which should not necessarily be assumed.)

So Toddy is basing his identification on what Will Folks told him, but at the same time saying Folks is a big fat liar. Ok.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:23:55pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

With a number like 21 it will take the uncouth one a little bit of time to find the “rat.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:24:36pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

“in over his head”.

Yeah. I’ve lived through 11 Presidents, and this is the first time I’ve ever looked at the guy in WH and thought I could do a better job.

And you are right, too.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:26:13pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

It may be different in other parts of the world, but in the US conservatism that is not essentially racist is inconceivable.

huffingtonpost.com

The long history of the Republican Party official courting Nazis (the ones from WW2). It goes back to Nixon’s 1968 campaign.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:27:25pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

“in over his head”.

Yeah. I’ve lived through 11 Presidents, and this is the first time I’ve ever looked at the guy in WH and thought I could do a better job.

I’ve been around since the tail-end of Eisenhower’s administration.

My cat could do a better job.

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:31:40pm

re: #140 Anymouse

I’ve been around since the tail-end of Eisenhower’s administration.

My cat could do a better job.

Any person or thing except a fellow deplorable would be more qualified for the presidency than Trump. Potted plants, dead skunks, rotting garbage etc. would all be infinitely better in the Oval Office than Trump.

Trump’s deplorables would be just as unqualified as Trump, but less able to weak havoc because they don’t have the demigod status given to anyone in the US having (or appearing to have) great wealth.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:36:34pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

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Why was Trump not briefed by someone — anyone! — at state or WH? These are delicate, high stakes meetings.

Possibilities:
1. Trump may have been briefed, and simply didn’t listen.
2. The Administration doesn’t trust the State Department staff.

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piratedan  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:37:21pm

I see parallels to Watergate and I don’t….

the parallels I see… these people (the Trump Admnistration) are woefully unprepared to do ANYTHING…

They all apparently subscribe to notion of the one white dude on a horse (white too in most cases) who rides in and saves the day mantra/ethos with DT as that glorified rider…. Yet they can’t organize an Easter egg hunt much less run the government because they don’t appear to need/want/understand the need for middle managers, people who make decisions in the best interests of whatever organization they belong to and get shit done. None of that is happening here and its because these folks aren’t savvy enough to retain people who have the needed wonkiness to understand the hows and whys of what makes a government work. The problem is also apparently permeated throughout the GOP as well, because these guys can’t apparently get out of their own way.

so now… we see fires in foreign policy, immigration, health care; all while Mistah McConnell is happy because he got his SCOTUS seat scammed and apparently cares about fuck-all anything else and we’re going to see just how well this all works out for him… for a while at least.

The items that make this a constitutional crisis, that no one in the press wants to come right out and say so, is that we have this…

A boatload of circumstantial (for the moment) evidence that shows that the Russians aided and abetted the current administration…

They did so Financially
They did so via Intelligence Operations
They did so Politically

What is even scarier (imho) is that the GOP willingly colluded with them to ride that tiger in preventing any discussion of this at a political level within their own ranks (or in a public forum) and by threatening the previous administration by calling all of the gathered data “politically” motivated and thereby threatening a constitutional crisis then, during the election (Not something that 44 was about imho).

Of all things, the IC is NOT going to let this stand and if/when all of this comes out, will there be the political will to prosecute this (I have my doubts based on the complete lack of ethics/morals/standards of GOP politicians)? If there is that will, we could see the entire Administration in shambles/arrested with everyone involved in the money and influence peddling if not outright treason. Those tendrils may very well lead into the leadership of the GOP itself and the media arm of the propaganda that was used to overwhelm the Democratic candidate. I do NOT expect that the grifter pyramid that is the GOP to go quietly and I expect many in our MSM are so wired in their framing of all things Republican to be dragged kicking and screaming as all of this is exposed under the rock that has been shielding them all.

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:38:26pm

Breitbart is worried that Trump is losing the war on the Climate Industrial Complex.

He’s not destroying the environment fast enough, apparently, and Big Coal is pissed!

But Mr. Pruitt is now being pilloried by conservative allies of the White House. Writing in Breitbart News — the conservative website formerly run by Mr. Trump’s senior strategist, Stephen K. Bannon — James Delingpole, a writer who is close to Mr. Bannon, said that if Mr. Pruitt refused to undo the endangerment finding, “it will represent a major setback for President Trump’s war with the Climate Industrial Complex.”

NY times.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:38:27pm

re: #142 Big Beautiful Door

Possibilities:
1. Trump may have been briefed, and simply didn’t listen.
2. The Administration doesn’t trust the State Department staff.

There is no State Department staff right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:39:55pm

Tapper: “There’s nothing wrong with someone bringing you into the campaign. I’m just trying to find out who it was!” Why won’t Page answer?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:43:43pm

Read the NYT Perlstein piece.

Got to admit, I’m a bit confused by how he’s “discovering” a different aspect of the right—the herrenvolk, paranoid historical components—when they’ve very clearly been there all along, clear and present all through the history of the South and the history of white nationalism.

(But then again, I’m working this angle backwards; studying bigotry and discovering that its US aspect has merged with the nominal “conservatism”)

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:43:54pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:45:29pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

That is a very good piece of “trick” photography. Many updings for something that made me smile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:45:38pm

When you’re made of liquid

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:46:32pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

Breitbart is worried that Trump is losing the war on the Climate Industrial Complex.

He’s not destroying the environment fast enough, apparently, and Big Coal is pissed!

NY times.com

The war on Big Fans.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:47:45pm
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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:48:59pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

That’s not a rollercoaster, its a chemtrail aircraft launcher. /s

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:49:11pm
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Teukka  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:49:13pm

re: #152 gocart mozart

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The question has to be asked…. Closet case?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:49:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:50:35pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:50:37pm

Perlstein, citing Ribuffo:

Anti-Semitism in America declined after World War II. But as Leo Ribuffo points out, the underlying narrative — of a diabolical transnational cabal of aliens plotting to undermine the very foundations of Christian civilization — survived in the anti-Communist diatribes of Joseph McCarthy. The alien narrative continues today in the work of National Review writers like Andrew McCarthy (“How Obama Embraces Islam’s Sharia Agenda”) and Lisa Schiffren (who argued that Obama’s parents could be secret Communists because “for a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or ‘60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics”). And it found its most potent expression in Donald Trump’s stubborn insistence that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

I’m glad more people are saying this, but I’m still kind of baffled this wasn’t obvious.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:51:13pm

re: #153 Anymouse

That’s not a rollercoaster, its a chemtrail aircraft launcher.

We better don our headgear. I have artisan options.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:52:01pm
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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:52:49pm

Why does the media keep calling the Carl Vinson carrier group a “strike force?” That is a warmongering term (unless they are actually engaged in combat).

The correct term is a “task force.”

en.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:53:36pm

re: #159 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Perlstein, citing Ribuffo:

I’m glad more people are saying this, but I’m still kind of baffled this wasn’t obvious.

That’s a great article, albeit depressing because it makes very clear that there are a LOT of people in this country who are knuckle-dragging cavemen, who will resist being dragged out of the Stone Age to their last breaths.

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:54:50pm

re: #155 Teukka

The question has to be asked…. Closet case?

That’s always the first thing to suspect about these televangelist nut jobs. By now I start with the assumption that they routinely snort lines of cocaine from the abs of rent boys, the only real open question being the race of said rent boys.

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:55:28pm

re: #162 Anymouse

Why does the media keep calling the Carl Vinson carrier group a “strike force?” That is a warmongering term (unless they are actually engaged in combat).

The correct term is a “task force.”

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds sexier.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:56:19pm

re: #143 piratedan

Great comment.

Everything makes me just shake my head.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:56:29pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Japanese naval ships are joining the U.S. Carl Vinson strike group on “exercise” to deter North Korea

I’m confused. What is this supposed to accomplish? This isn’t going to deter Kim Jong-un from any action he is planning. He knows we are not going to attack.

OT. Where is Curious Lurker? Haven’t seen her in months?

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:58:22pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

That’s a great article, albeit depressing because it makes very clear that there are a LOT of people in this country who are knuckle-dragging cavemen, who will resist being dragged out of the Stone Age to their last breaths.

There is also an enormous effort made to pretend that the knuckle-dragging cavemen are somehow a respectable part of the spectrum of US political opinions.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 6:58:48pm

re: #167 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m confused. What is this supposed to accomplish? This isn’t going to deter Kim Jong-un from any action he is planning. He knows we are not going to attack.

OT. Where is Curious Lurker? Haven’t seen her in months?

Japanese Defence Forces frequently conduct exercises with our Navy. It is nothing new.

Neither is conducting exercises off Korea.

This particular exercise however was sudden: the Carl Vinson was in Singapore and scheduled to go to Australia. It was diverted to Korea.

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:01:27pm

I’m tired of hearing about the Trump’s chocolate cake. I will put Marcel Desaulnier’s Chocolate Espresso Fudge Cake up against whatever they make at Mar a Lago any day. I’ve made a bunch (including 6 of them for my daughter’s wedding-luckily they freeze well) and it is my go-to incredibly delicious dessert choice.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:01:57pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

My youngest son said “Geez, rocket science, you’re not supposed to put your works in an amusement park.”

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:03:04pm
Comedian Charlie Murphy, the brother of Eddie Murphy and star on “The Chappelle Show,” died Wednesday, according to Variety.

Charlie Murphie was 57 and a Navy veteran.

navytimes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:04:08pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:04:22pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:06:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:07:30pm
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:08:02pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:08:16pm

re: #154 gocart mozart

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This makes me so goddamn mad.

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:09:00pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(They do the hokey pokey and they turn themselves around)

‘CAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT

They are a family of grifters—each and every one of them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:09:03pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Record turnip harvest?
Nope, wrong season.
Avionics upgrade for MiG-17s?
Expansion of anti-aircraft range?
New purchase of surplus East German school uniforms?

Fresh mushroom cloud?

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:09:07pm

re: #143 piratedan

Except Trump is the horseman who’s riding the pale horse.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:09:31pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s a Michelob Ultra, isn’t it.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:09:55pm
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:10:21pm

re: #154 gocart mozart

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:10:40pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

Fucking balls.

Between this kind of stuff and TPP vs. RCEP, we may have handed China the SE Asian trade corridor.

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:11:45pm

Totally off topic, but remember the oil painting I was cleaning? It’s done!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:12:03pm

The U.S. Coast Guard has received no extra funding to cover the additional costs of protecting President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort during his frequent trips to the Florida estate, the service’s top official said Wednesday.

Adm. Paul Zukunft, the Coast Guard’s commandant, also provided new details about the challenges the service faces in safeguarding the Palm Beach property because of its waterfront exposure on two sides — the Atlantic Ocean to the east and the Intracoastal Waterway to the west.

Whenever Trump visits, ­the Coast Guard dispatches helicopters, patrol boats and anti-terrorism teams for round-the-clock patrols, ­Zukunft said during a breakfast with journalists.

“We have teams protecting the approaches to Mar-a-Lago on both coasts,” Zukunft said. “We’re also protecting in the air, as well,” he added, noting that the service watches for “low, slow fliers” and any other “potential aviation threat to our commander in chief.”

Asked about the costs of protecting Mar-a-Lago, Zukunft said officials were trying to determine a figure to provide to Congress but that at the moment the service was working within existing funding constraints.

“Is there a supplemental to support this?” he said. “The answer is no.”

snip

The Trump administration’s draft budget last month called for cutting the Coast Guard’s funding by 14 percent, or about $1.3 billion, but the White House has since said it would keep the service’s budget flat compared with the previous year.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:15:22pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:16:06pm

re: #189 Anymouse

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:19:30pm

Is there any way to tell Trump that he cannot continue his weekend visits to Mar-a-Lago because it endangers national security? We cannot provide the same level of personal security and it is clear that his moves and conversations cannot be provided a sufficient level of privacy and confidentiality. Let him go to Camp David instead

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:19:59pm

re: #170 calochortus

I’m tired of hearing about the Trump’s chocolate cake. I will put Marcel Desaulnier’s Chocolate Espresso Fudge Cake up against whatever they make at Mar a Lago any day. I’ve made a bunch (including 6 of them for my daughter’s wedding-luckily they freeze well) and it is my go-to incredibly delicious dessert choice.

OMGOMGOMG. I am so making that! Thank you!!

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:21:56pm

Read the whole thread.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:22:33pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

They won’t care the Kansas election was so close? Is that why the RNC dumped so much money into the election?

I’m betting they care a whole lot.

Plus Mr. Thompson can use the same strategy the GOP has used a long time, now that he has better name recognition: Run and lose, then run and win.

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:23:18pm

re: #193 MsJ

Yeah, it’s a nuisance to make, but sooooo worth it. And as I said, you can make the whole thing ahead and put it into the freezer with no noticeable loss of quality.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:24:28pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

If they think that, let them. We weren’t going to get early wins. But we will eventually win in places we wouldn’t have had someone else been president.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:24:45pm
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MsJ  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:26:00pm

re: #196 calochortus

Yeah, it’s a nuisance to make, but sooooo worth it. And as I said, you can make the whole thing ahead and put it into the freezer with no noticeable loss of quality.

That’s what I’m talking to the next Christmas family dinner. That looks delish! Espresso. Yummo!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:26:03pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

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Certainly true. After all Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3,000,000 votes yet he governs as though he won a majority without any concern for the opinions of those who did not support him. Bush 43 did the same in 2001. Winning is all that matters and they retained the House seat.

Republicans commissioned a study several years on how to regain the White House. All its recommendations were ignored in Trump’s victory. They have learned that following their worst instincts leads to victory.

OTOH — the AHCA went down in flames. So maybe there is a vestige of hope

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Cheechako  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:26:15pm

A couple of weeks ago VB posted a NYT Cooking recipe for Cowboy Cookies.

My wife made a batch yesterday….wow are they great.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:26:57pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:29:37pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:34:29pm

re: #170 calochortus

I’m tired of hearing about the Trump’s chocolate cake. I will put Marcel Desaulnier’s Chocolate Espresso Fudge Cake up against whatever they make at Mar a Lago any day. I’ve made a bunch (including 6 of them for my daughter’s wedding-luckily they freeze well) and it is my go-to incredibly delicious dessert choice.

Will you contract & fed ex?

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:36:04pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

Will you contract & fed ex?

LOL. But if you’re ever in the SF Bay Area, I might make one to share with you…

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stpaulbear  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:36:06pm

re: #170 calochortus

I’m tired of hearing about the Trump’s chocolate cake. I will put Marcel Desaulnier’s Chocolate Espresso Fudge Cake up against whatever they make at Mar a Lago any day. I’ve made a bunch (including 6 of them for my daughter’s wedding-luckily they freeze well) and it is my go-to incredibly delicious dessert choice.

Chocolate Cake

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petesh  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:36:28pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Jonah thinks the “Trump as Putin Puppet” storyline is dead? Earth to Jonah: Putin got involved in order to make things worse for presumed-President Hillary Clinton, not because he liked Trump. In the new circumstances, Putin is much more interested in Trump making a fool of himself than he is in having Trump as his buddy. Putin never wanted Trump as a buddy, if only because Putin is far too smart to trust Trump. However, a little provocation here or there might move the short-sighted, short-tempered, short-fingered rookie into, oh, breaking up NATO or something, who knows what? It’s all good … for Russia. Cheap at twice the price.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:36:57pm
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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:37:57pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:38:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:39:59pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:43:13pm

Everyone seems to calm tonight…

Can’t be having any of that now…

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:43:28pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

I think though, that for every one evil thing he tries to do, there will be two bumbling and incriminating things his administration will do.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:44:57pm
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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:45:12pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:45:18pm

Trump really thinks his Syria strike was such a huge success. He’s got this idea he’s unstoppable now. Onto the next biggest target, North Korea.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:45:44pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:46:13pm
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electrotek  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:46:39pm
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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:48:01pm

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

Everyone seems to calm tonight…

Can’t be having any of that now…

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Thanks. I feel so much better now.
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:49:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:49:58pm

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:50:31pm

re: #209 Anymouse

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Some kind of weird dig at Trump, who made that mistake in the Fox Business interview?

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:50:39pm

re: #221 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:52:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:54:01pm

To be fair, Trump has created at least some jobs:

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:54:38pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

And fire Brooks, Douthat, Freedman, and Dowd

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stpaulbear  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:55:00pm

re: #221 gocart mozart

How about they choose an extra one from the ‘recommendations’ list and then tell Ross Douthat to go spend more time with his family. Ask David Brooks to go spend time with Douthat’s family too.

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scottslemmons  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:56:21pm

re: #215 Anymouse

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Well, this was a foregone conclusion at this point. Syaf hid some real wingnutty references in a mainstream X-Men comic, including coincidentally posing Kitty Pryde, a Jewish character, so that she partially blocked off a jewelry store sign — guess which part of the word wasn’t covered up. As a result, Marvel has to have someone else redraw entire issues that were almost ready for publication, and it’s damn dumb to set yourself up to cost an employer that much money.

G. Willow Wilson, the Muslim creator of Ms. Marvel, has more info on the stuff Syaf was misinterpreting to justify this crap.

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electrotek  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:57:11pm

re: #229 scottslemmons

Well, this was a foregone conclusion at this point. Syaf hid some real wingnutty references in a mainstream X-Men comic, including coincidentally posing Kitty Pryde, a Jewish character, so that she partially blocked off a jewelry store sign — guess which part of the word wasn’t covered up. As a result, Marvel has to have someone else redraw entire issues that were almost ready for publication, and it’s damn dumb to set yourself up to cost an employer that much money.

G. Willow Wilson, the Muslim creator of Ms. Marvel, has more info on the stuff Syaf was misinterpreting to justify this crap.

Beat me to it. I’m glad she spoke out on this. I hate that piece of shit Syaf for what he did. And I’m glad he will reap the consequences of his actions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:57:33pm

Isn’t Bret Stephens a climate change denier? Sounds like they are hiring a Judith Miller who has ties to the opposite side of truth.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 7:59:59pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:01:43pm

re: #227 gocart mozart

And fire Brooks, Douthat, Freedman, and Dowd

and Pulitzer prize winning(!) Peggy Noonan

Edit. Oops. Nevermind. Noonan is WSJ.

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:05:01pm

re: #233 BlueSpotinAL

and Pulitzer prize winning(!) Peggy Noonan

Noonan “writes” for WSJ. But I’m down for firing her anyway.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:07:43pm

Been watching the Korean zombie flick Train to Busan on Netflix. It is really excellent so far. South Korean cinema is going from strength to strength.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:08:58pm

re: #170 calochortus

I’m tired of hearing about the Trump’s chocolate cake. I will put Marcel Desaulnier’s Chocolate Espresso Fudge Cake up against whatever they make at Mar a Lago any day. I’ve made a bunch (including 6 of them for my daughter’s wedding-luckily they freeze well) and it is my go-to incredibly delicious dessert choice.

That cake looks INCREDIBLE!

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:10:44pm

Why Delta Air Lines Paid Me 11,000 Not to Fly to Florida This Weekend (goes to Forbes)

The writer snarks she might consider making a career out of not flying to Florida. (The writer is a travel editor.)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:10:49pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:15:37pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

To be fair, Trump has created at least some jobs:

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More guys like these

Former Navy SEAL’s Jog Near Border Fence Ends in Legal War With Border Patrol Agent

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:18:53pm

re: #236 Joe Bacon

That cake looks INCREDIBLE!

And it is truly incredible. As a bonus, because the frosting is mostly piped on in little rosettes, an amateur can turn out a professional looking product.

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Anymouse  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:21:54pm

re: #239 Unshaken Defiance

More guys like these

Former Navy SEAL’s Jog Near Border Fence Ends in Legal War With Border Patrol Agent

Stand by for more of this. Parts of the USA off-limits to Americans… .

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Joe Bacon  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:29:26pm

re: #240 calochortus

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majii  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:34:15pm

re: #55 KGxvi

“This is so wrong that I don’t even know where to begin. What the fuck do they teach in US History in the South?”

Being that I am a retired GA high school social studies teacher, I can attest to teaching the real history of America and of Lincoln’s presidency. The problem is with right-wing local and state politicians, some fundamentalist pastors and their congregations, right-wing radio entertainers, Fox News, and some parents who push alternative history and pound this information into the heads of many of our young citizens. I had a civics student who, although I covered a lesson on the powers of the presidency, per the Constitution, said that although he understood the information in the textbook was correct, he and his dad believed Rush Limbaugh’s interpretation/take on presidential powers which was complete bunk. In GA, those who tend to embrace historical revisionism begin indoctrinating their kids when they’re very young, and by the time they study the material in school, the facts don’t cause them to change their minds because the brainwashing they’ve been subjected to has taken hold and become internalized.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 12, 2017 • 8:55:26pm

re: #187 calochortus

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re: #222 Stanley Sea

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