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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:18:16pm

Frog slime could be a cure for the flu.

nbcnews.com

Frog lives matter!

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:20:16pm

This fucking guy.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:21:52pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

This fucking guy.

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Pumpkin Pinochet is just as predictable as ever. He ignores the 13 % shift to Democrats in this district!

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:22:51pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:23:31pm
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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:25:52pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:26:56pm

The Idiocracy continues to loom ever so close.

My local paper.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:29:46pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Just old-fashioned:

“Busses was the preferred form in Merriam-Webster dictionaries until 1961.”
merriam-webster.com

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Skip Intro  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:30:28pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon

Pumpkin Pinochet is just as predictable as ever. He ignores the 13 % shift to Democrats in this district!

The big story is it was all because of him.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:34:52pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

The Idiocracy continues to loom ever so close.

My local paper.

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Maybe they are referring to multiple electrical circuits (busses). By moving the busses, they have room for buses. /s

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danarchy  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:40:40pm

Any clue what the turnout was like for the Ga 6th election?

Was it the typical dismal special election turnout? More like a mid-term turnout, or like presidential year turn out?

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:42:04pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

The Vail Daily has a lively letters to the editor section; lots of back and forth argument over Trump, undocumented immigrants, “Hillary selling uranium to the Russians,” and many more local issues.
vaildaily.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:42:19pm

re: #10 Anymouse

Maybe they are referring to multiple electrical circuits (busses). By moving the busses, they have room for buses. /s

A shocking suggestion. Watt are you thinking?

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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:42:28pm

Know your audience Dick!

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:42:37pm

“Why is Eagle-Vail’s board delaying or possibly stopping the re-vamp of the tennis, pickle-ball, and multi-use courts?”

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:43:59pm

re: #15 jaunte

pickle-ball?

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:46:24pm

Google sez

“Bill Bell invented the game of pickleball one summer afternoon in 1965 on Bainbridge Island, WA.”

“The Pritchards had a cocker spaniel named Pickles, who became interested in this new game. Whenever a ball would come his way, he would take the ball and run off with it, because you see, it was Pickle’s ball. And that is how the game got its name. And the USA Pickleball Association’s sticking to it.”

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:47:03pm

re: #17 jaunte

Oh.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:47:56pm

My first contact with pickleball.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:48:03pm

Jon Ossoff now at 48.61% with just over 41% of the vote cast …

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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:50:05pm

Uggh, this is the first night in Phoenix where I don’t feel anything resembling a nip or nod to coolness in the air. It’s here.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:52:06pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

A shocking suggestion. Watt are you thinking?

Well, I wasn’t re-volted. Currently, my capacitance for puns is impeded by being tired, thus the frequency of the attempt at puns in this sentence hertz my brain. I’m just happy my “ohm on the range” is warm again.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:52:45pm

re: #12 jaunte

I’m well aware. There’s some kooks that have been writing to the Vail Daily for years.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:55:51pm

In good business news today, it only took UPS three days to deliver a next-day air package of my medications to my house, so either their service is improving or they had other packages to deliver to the area.

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:56:10pm

re: #22 Anymouse

I’m up dinging puns, in honor of my late husband, who enjoyed the “lowest form of humor” inordinately. The more in a row, the happier he was. Groan.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:57:28pm
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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:58:37pm

The coldest of wars…

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 9:59:08pm

re: #25 retired cynic

I’m up dinging puns, in honor of my late husband, who enjoyed the “lowest form of humor” inordinately. The more in a row, the happier he was. Groan.

My mother loves puns … when she gets going she can go all day, driving everyone out of a room.

As for the “lowest form of humour,” that truism is debatable, since it takes a large vocabulary to create puns.

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:00:42pm

re: #28 Anymouse

My mother loves puns … when she gets going she can go all day, driving everyone out of a room.

As for the “lowest form of humour,” that truism is debatable, since it takes a large vocabulary to create puns.

If they drive everyone out of the room, then the saying applies!

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:00:49pm

Eric Garland✔
@ericgarland

At some point, this behavior deserves a punitive response.


2:59 PM - 18 Apr 2017

So is Mr. Garland suggesting war, or perhaps some lesser response (like making Putin live with Trump)?

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:02:30pm

Instagram

So good the first time, went back for seconds! @silvertonmountainguides 🏂 @juanpalorenzini

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:02:48pm

re: #29 retired cynic

If they drive everyone out of the room, then the saying applies!

I suppose that would take a pretty small car, though.

I’ve been told people groan at puns because they didn’t think of them first.

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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:03:56pm

re: #30 Anymouse

Locked in a room with Drumpf while the world’s worst puns are played repeatedly at a high volume.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:07:26pm

re: #33 JordanRules

Locked in a room with Drumpf while the world’s worst puns are played repeatedly at a high volume.

I suspect they would go over Donald Trump’s head.

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:09:23pm

re: #34 Anymouse

I suspect they would go over Donald Trump’s head.

All the better.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:10:55pm
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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:19:47pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:22:14pm

I can’t wait for the Republican candidate in the run-off election in Georgia’s 6th district to defend Fuckface Von Clownstick from now until June.

WHY YES, IT’S A GOOD THING THAT SEOUL HAS BEEN VAPORIZED.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:32:28pm

Since it was Jon Ossoff that had the momentum going into tonight’s election (and the counting is not done yet, over fifty percent of the ballots are uncounted), it would have been nice for the other Democrats running to have dropped out and supported him.

Sanders isn’t the only one who can tear down a Democratic race … we have our own Democrats to help us with that.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:50:17pm
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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 10:52:48pm

re: #40 Anymouse

Uhhh, depends on the church buddy.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:02:22pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Uhhh, depends on the church buddy.

At my church (big rock ‘n’ roll concerts) I yell a great deal. I whistle with my fingers, so everybody around me can hear it.

That’s just me.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:06:40pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Uhhh, depends on the church buddy.

You’d think with all the Republicans either insulting their constituents, accusing them of being plants or shills, or simply dodging town halls entirely, there would be some way the Dems could jump on them as cowards.

My own rep (Adrian Smith) was in Scottsbluff yesterday (he never does town halls except by telephone). He limited questions solely to agriculture, plumping Donald Trump’s vapourware infrastructure programme with the idea he would add agricultural infrastructure to it.

Let’s say I’m not convinced. Interestingly, I am on Adrian Smith’s E-mail list, but no notification of the town hall in Scottsbluff came to me. Apparently it was invite-only.

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Kragar  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:08:32pm
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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:11:49pm

A couple days before President George HW Bush was admitted to the hospital for pneumonia, President Bill Clinton visited President Bush and gave him a gift of pairs of patterned socks. They then talked about “old times.”

cnn.com

I can’t see President Trump visiting anyone he didn’t have to.

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:22:07pm

Irony from Andy Borowitz:

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:37:20pm

ww2today.com

Yesterday was the seventy-fifth anniversary of Doolittle’s raid on Tokyo.

Although the raid achieved little in tactical success, it was a massive loss of face for the Japanese military, which had assured the Emperor that Japan was untouchable.

Since the Japanese military was unaware the US Navy had worked out how to launch B-25 bombers from aircraft carriers, it assumed the launch must have come from the US territory of Midway. Thus, the Imperial Japanese Navy set about plans to attack Midway. With the US in possession of Japan’s naval codes, that meant the US was prepared for Japan’s assault on the islands.

This is the difference between tactics and strategy. (Something sovereign citizen wingnuts will never grasp, along with a bunch of armchair warriors.) By using a losing tactic (attacking Tokyo with B-25’s knowing they’d do little damage), the Navy set up a strategic victory by drawing Japan into a trap (the Battle of Midway).

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JordanRules  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:53:14pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Rock on AKA, Amen!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 18, 2017 • 11:53:33pm

re: #15 jaunte

“Why is Eagle-Vail’s board delaying or possibly stopping the re-vamp of the tennis, pickle-ball, and multi-use courts?”

We used to play Blossom ball, also named after a dog. It also involved keeping the dog from getting the ball, last one to touch the ball before Blossom got to it was out of the round.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:00:04am

re: #47 Anymouse

ww2today.com

Yesterday was the seventy-fifth anniversary of Doolittle’s raid on Tokyo.

Although the raid achieved little in tactical success, it was a massive loss of face for the Japanese military, which had assured the Emperor that Japan was untouchable.

Since the Japanese military was unaware the US Navy had worked out how to launch B-25 bombers from aircraft carriers, it assumed the launch must have come from the US territory of Midway. Thus, the Imperial Japanese Navy set about plans to attack Midway. With the US in possession of Japan’s naval codes, that meant the US was prepared for Japan’s assault on the islands.

This is the difference between tactics and strategy. (Something sovereign citizen wingnuts will never grasp, along with a bunch of armchair warriors.) By using a losing tactic (attacking Tokyo with B-25’s knowing they’d do little damage), the Navy set up a strategic victory by drawing Japan into a trap (the Battle of Midway).

Trump was trying lure the North Koreans into deep water by sailing the armada away from Korea!!

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:07:55am

Here’s a hoot: My wife noted a Website:

Conspiracy Theorists Say the Darndest Things

There is some really wacky stuff here. For example, in all seriousness someone asserted during the election that the “tremors” (itself a conspiracy theory) Hillary Clinton was allegedly suffering were actually caused by kuru (a prion disease caused by cannibalism found primarily in Papua New Guinea).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:08:54am

re: #51 Anymouse

Here’s a hoot: My wife noted a Website:

Conspiracy Theorists Say the Darndest Things

I thought it was ibogaine addiction…

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:13:57am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought it was ibogaine addiction…

I just re-read that comment: It wasn’t from the campaign, it was only a couple days ago. Clinton Derangement Syndrome appears to be a bigger problem than Hillary Clinton’s penchant for cannibalism, apparently.

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:26:17am

Oh, here’s a really good bit of batshittery:

As for the Sunkist trademark, what we found was far more sinister. We’ll state the obvious first. A large sun serves as its basis. However, that’s not the half of it. The really scary part is in the word “Sunkist”. Take a look at the lettering. If you pay close attention to the “u”, you’ll notice that it merges with the “n”. When looked at appropriately, the trademark doesn’t say “Sunkist” as most people assume but rather “Sinkist”, which could also be interpreted as “Sin-kist”.

This despicable icon provides a dangerous double dose of Illuminati brainwash. Seeing the sun is one thing, but the typeset is sending subliminal messages telling people to be bad. At this point, if you are not convinced that the Illuminati is real, then we strongly urge you to reconsider your opinion. The abundance of symbols that assault your senses on a daily basis are not accidental coincidences. They are a means to control your mind.

Bruce, Illuminati Watchdog 5 Comments [4/8/2017 5:02:28 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
WTF?! || meh

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:26:38am
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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:27:54am

re: #55 teleskiguy

We need to increase conservation of sea otters here on the North Platte River. /s

Cute critters, otters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:30:29am

re: #54 Anymouse

Oh, here’s a really good bit of batshittery:

Kitchen Sinkist

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wheat-dogg  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:39:50am

re: #54 Anymouse

I’m sure they have a section about P&G’s corporate symbol, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:42:44am

re: #58 wheat-dogg

I’m sure they have a section about P&G’s corporate symbol, too.

That was a conspiracy theory since long before the Internet

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:42:45am

Who wants to buy an old chair from Eldora Ski Area in Colorado?

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:46:43am

re: #58 wheat-dogg

I’m sure they have a section about P&G’s corporate symbol, too.

Oh, no doubt.

Here is one from the Illuminati Watchdog Blog on the deaths of Carrie Fischer and Debbie Reynolds (more at the link) - who are these people who think like this:

To be perfectly honest, we here at IW were not shocked to hear about the untimely death of Carrie Fisher, and believe it or not, we don’t think there was any conspiracy around her death. Now, we do know that she was a member of the order and had undergone significant MK Ultra brainwashing. This is what explains her constant and severe drug abuse, and that’s what put her in an early grave. Decades of snorting coke and swallowing tons of Prozac aged her body to where she looked 20 years older than she actually was. Of course that took an effect on her heart, which abruptly failed while she was flying home to Los Angeles. So in the long run, there really wasn’t much of a story from a conspiracy theory perspective. A lifelong junkie died, big deal. We were surprised, however, that the media did not disclose just how severe her drug problem was and cloaked it under the guise of mental illness. Maybe they were trying to be respectful, but since when has that ever happened.

It’s what occurred next that has Illuminati conspiracy written all over it, and that’s the death of Fisher’s mother, Debbie Reynolds, just a couple of days later. According to the media, she died of a broken heart. Seriously, they actually said that as if it was a genuine medical condition. The order must be getting lazy these days to try and force that one on us. No, I think it’s safe to say foul play was afoot in Reynolds’ death.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:50:08am

re: #61 Anymouse

Debbie Reynolds was 84 when she died. It could have been a contributing factor.

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:04:17am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Debbie Reynolds was 84 when she died. It could have been a contributing factor.

That’s what the Illuminati want you to think.

In reality, Debbie Reynolds was an immortal lizard person.

Here’s another one about Steve Bannon (he is also controlled by the Illuminati, because of course he is - I wish these guys would troll the Breitbart [dot] com comments section …)

The media has been in an uproar since President Donald Trump announced the appointment of Steve Bannon as one of his top advisers. Reporters and libtards [sic] alike are freaking out over this man’s supposed anti-Semitism and leadership of breitbart.com, the leading alt right news site, and in a strange twist of irony, we are also crying foul. Not because of this man’s controversial statements but because of his role at what was once one of the most promising sources of journalism.

When under the leadership of its original founder, Andrew Breitbart, Breitbart [dot] com was most promising and delivered thorough conservative coverage. That all changed when Breitbart died under very mysterious circumstances. Of course, we know better than to believe the false reports that claimed he died of “natural” causes. Bannon may have been involved in his death. With the founder gone, a struggle for the website’s control ensued and Bannon came out on top. Unlike Breitbart, he decided to take the site in a different direction. Instead of publishing credible articles that went into great depth on their subjects, Bannon opted for click bait intended to rack up page views. This generated more ad revenue and destroyed breitbart.com’s credibility turning it into easy fodder for libtard [sic] pundits.

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:21:25am

Well, I need to hit the rack, I have a dine-out trip to Cheyenne tomorrow. Catch y’all later.

Wow there is really crazy stuff on the site that collects conspiracy theories. Left-wing, right-wing, torus-ring, libertarian-wing, you name it. I could get lost for hours there.

Assuming the posters are Americans (there is a conspiracy theory there that the St. Petersburg bomb attack was faked with pyrotechnics and crisis actors and fake blood), remember, they also have the right to vote.

Anti-intellectualism has always pervaded American political life. They now have the Internet to spread BS at the speed of light (which is probably also a hoax, I’ll have to read more).

Possibly the only good from eliminating net neutrality is sites like these would likely go off the air. (So would my wife’s site, linked in my name here, but her site is funny. These guys are just lunatics.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:23:44am

re: #64 Anymouse

Anti-intellectualism has always pervaded American political life. They now have the Internet to spread BS at the speed of light (which is probably also a hoax, I’ll have to read more).

Possibly the only good from eliminating net neutrality is sites like these would likely go off the air. (So would my wife’s site, linked in my name here, but her site is funny. These guys are just lunatics.)

The problem is that our news media have grown lazy and rather than actually pay investigative reporters, they simply browse the conspiracy websites and pick out juicy stories. And besides, “trending on Twitter” is a news item in itself these days.

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:23:59am

fstdt.com (if you want to get lost in the endless swill that is conspiracy theory)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:35:43am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was a conspiracy theory since long before the Internet

I remember that one from my childhood in the 1970’s……..IIRC, I first read about it in the National Enquirer (my late grandma’s favorite rag, which she enjoyed reading for the lulz, before there even was such as thing as the lulz).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:39:34am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

I remember that one from my childhood in the 1970’s……..IIRC, I first read about it in the National Enquirer (my late grandma’s favorite rag, which she enjoyed reading for the lulz, before there even was such as thing as the lulz).

My mom insisted that she only read it so she would know what the other ladies at the hairdresser’s were talking about…

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:45:17am

Winter has returned here in Ostrava, albeit rather briefly. Woke up to a bit of snow outside and it’s forecast to snow off-and-on for the rest of the day.

However, the problem comes in that a lot of people have removed their winter tires from their cars and switched to summer tires, which don’t do so good on the snow. As a result, a lot of people have stayed home from work, at least in areas where public transportation isn’t as efficient as in the metropolitan areas. For example, a student of mine, who can’t get out of her driveway. She’s not a happy camper, to say the least.

Here’s a report from local media - it’s in Czech, so you’ll have to run it through GoogleTranslate. moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 1:46:12am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Winter has returned here in Ostrava, albeit rather briefly. Woke up to a bit of snow outside and it’s forecast to snow off-and-on for the rest of the day.

However, the problem comes in that a lot of people have removed their winter tires from their cars and switched to summer tires, which don’t do so good on the snow.

I am glad that I procrastinated about snow tires…

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 2:51:31am

So Ted Cruz, of all people, is concerned that Democrats are prepared to push a government shutdown over the GOP trying to ram their xenophobic wish list through with the “must-pass” spending bill. So the roles have been reversed, it’s the GOP in the catbird’s seat, and they still want to blame Democrats for not being able to pass a clean bill.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 2:55:58am

re: #71 Targetpractice

So Ted Cruz, of all people, is concerned that Democrats are prepared to push a government shutdown over the GOP trying to ram their xenophobic wish list through with the “must-pass” spending bill. So the roles have been reversed, it’s the GOP in the catbird’s seat, and they still want to blame Democrats for not being able to pass a clean bill.

Count on a “both sides of the story” media and our general gnat-sized attention span to ensure that a lot of people will fall for his portrayal of things.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:06:00am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Count on a “both sides of the story” media and our general gnat-sized attention span to ensure that a lot of people will fall for his portrayal of things.

I suspect voter amnesia will set in right around the time that Republicans start stamping their feet and whining that this is “totally unprecedented” because never would they force a government shutdown over a spending bill.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:15:21am

re: #73 Targetpractice

I suspect voter amnesia will set in right around the time that Republicans start stamping their feet and whining that this is “totally unprecedented” because never would they force a government shutdown over a spending bill.

Just like trying to filibuster the Gorsuch nomination was totally unprecedented…

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:23:24am
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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:23:25am

I think the big question right now is how far McConnell and Ryan are prepared to go to support Trump. Two special elections have happened and Democrats have done better than expected. 538 estimated that there’s at least 47 Republican seats in districts far bluer than KS-04 or GA-06. Trump’s approval ratings have nudged up, but have not been the stratospheric boost that people feared/hoped would happen if he started a war of choice. And Russiagate is not going away, no matter how hard the GOP tries to kill it with political hackery.

Were Trump’s approval above water and the special election results weaker than expected, McConnell might have considered going forward with nuking the filibuster out of existence to push through Trump’s spending priorities. Now? I suspect that The Great Wall of Trump and punitive punishment of sanctuary cities might be casualties of the GOP’s desire to retain Congress.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:43:09am

A friend on FB just asked what sort of units we use to measure stupidity. I replied that we measure it in derp.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:45:30am

re: #76 Targetpractice

… I suspect that The Great Wall of Trump and punitive punishment of sanctuary cities might be casualties of the GOP’s desire to retain Congress.

Worked for Reagan and the Family Values Christians: pander to a group to get into power, then toss them aside to remain in power.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:46:54am

re: #24 Anymouse

And for some reason people think privatizing mail service will improve things.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:53:09am

re: #79 Romantic Heretic

And for some reason people think privatizing mail service will improve things.

Privatizing will improve things for the mail providers…

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2017 • 3:55:32am

re: #56 Anymouse

They certainly are.

Otters Find A Butterfly

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:06:39am

...

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:07:19am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Worked for Reagan and the Family Values Christians: pander to a group to get into power, then toss them aside to remain in power.

True enough, but the problem is that the GOP needs those same nutters to hold those purple districts, as they’re generally the ones who can be counted upon most to show up on election day.

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Weaselone  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:12:55am

re: #83 Targetpractice

True enough, but the problem is that the GOP needs those same nutters to hold those purple districts, as they’re generally the ones who can be counted upon most to show up on election day.

Those nutters also pretty reliably show up during the general to vote for anything with an R next to it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:15:19am

re: #84 Weaselone

Those nutters also pretty reliably show up during the general to vote for anything with an R next to it.

True, hence the dilemma the GOP finds itself in: They can rely upon the wingnuts to keep them in power, but the people they send to D.C. ensure that the GOP can’t actually get anything accomplished. Every time they try to make a major move, the nutters start gnashing their teeth and then the whole effort collapses upon itself.

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Weaselone  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:17:48am

re: #85 Targetpractice

True, hence the dilemma the GOP finds itself in: They can rely upon the wingnuts to keep them in power, but the people they send to D.C. ensure that the GOP can’t actually get anything accomplished. Every time they try to make a major move, the nutters start gnashing their teeth and then the whole effort collapses upon itself.

That probably has less to do with the nutters gnashing their teeth and the threat posed to the general election, and more to do with the nutters taking the elected officials out in the primary and fact that an increasing number of elected officials are actually nutters themselves.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:29:44am

re: #86 Weaselone

That probably has less to do with the nutters gnashing their teeth and the threat posed to the general election, and more to do with the nutters taking the elected officials out in the primary and fact that an increasing number of elected officials are actually nutters themselves.

What we’re seeing is natural selection in action. The rising anger and fear in the wingnut ranks over what they saw as the end of white privilege resulted in a pressure-cooker environment in the party where you can’t stick to the old code words and dog whistles. But the problem the GOP faces now is the same as bringing a deep-sea fish to shallow water: The fish evolved to cope with all that pressure by relying upon it for structure, the absence of which causes it to collapse into a mush. Like the election of Obama convinced them that the glory days were over, the election of Trump convinced them that white privilege was ascendant once again. So the party that evolved to deal with Obama by stymieing his every move now has no damned clue what to do without him around.

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weave  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:40:44am

re: #44 Kragar

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Yeah that’s my big takeaway from this. Some of the Republicans who are fed up with Trump went with a “Romney” Republican as their choice but stuck with their party.

I wonder if she’ll be asking Trump to stay away from Georgia for the next two months…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:47:53am

re: #87 Targetpractice

Like the election of Obama convinced them that the glory days were over, the election of Trump convinced them that white privilege was ascendant once again. So the party that evolved to deal with Obama by stymieing his every move now has no damned clue what to do without him around.

You mean like being able to vote to repeal ACA forty times but not being able to get a vote to replace it?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:48:29am

I’m so sick of this self-righteous fucking asshole

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:51:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:53:35am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

Bernie Sanders urges Democrats to reach out to Trump supporters

do these people want to get their arms broken?

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Bubblehead II  Apr 19, 2017 • 4:54:57am

Morning Lizards. Was it just me or did the site have a glitch for about 7-10 minutes? Couldn’t update/reload even after restarting fire fox.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:03:23am

The seething Berniebro replies are priceless.

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jeffreyw  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:05:49am

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:11:08am

re: #94 Dr. Matt

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The seething Berniebro replies are priceless.

Ayep, they excused the Kansas loss by saying that the Bernie-approved candidate did not get enough support from the DNC, and now excuse their lack of support in Georgia by saying that he didn’t pass St. Bernie’s purity test and thus he was an “establishment” Dem who did not need their support.

But remember, these are the people we need to get on our side if we want to win next year.////

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:18:41am

re: #96 Targetpractice

Ayep, they excused the Kansas loss by saying that the Bernie-approved candidate did not get enough support from the DNC, and now excuse their lack of support in Georgia by saying that he didn’t pass St. Bernie’s purity test and thus he was an “establishment” Dem who did not need their support.

But remember, these are the people we need to get on our side if we want to win next year.////

I’m really getting sick of them. Oh and calling a guy who just turned 30 an “establishment” type is hilarious given they hero worship a guy who entered the House when Jon was in pre fucking school.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:19:33am

And I get that Bernie isn’t establishment in the conventional sense of the word but he’s definitely someone who’s been in Washington a long time so he’s not exactly the outsider they want to claim he is and if he is, it’s because he’s inflexible.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:20:17am

Now that I am finally getting over the flu, Hubby has it.

He took over the recliner last night.

I feel so guilty :0

How are you?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:20:38am

re: #96 Targetpractice

But remember, these are the people we need to get on our side if we want to win next year.////

Yes, they are. It’s past time top knock off the blue-on-blue shit. If that’s bothersome, just contemplate the second Trump administration.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:23:26am

re: #40 Anymouse

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Gosh, when has that ass last been in a church?

Pastor Street Fighter 2 [12 Church Warrior Edition]

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:28:21am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Yes, they are. It’s past time top knock off the blue-on-blue shit. If that’s bothersome, just contemplate the second Trump administration.

We have the first Trump administration because we tried to win them over and they bit us in the ass instead. So you’re not exactly winning me over with this argument.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:29:32am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:30:26am

Thank you Rick…..

Facebook Post

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:31:13am

re: #102 Targetpractice

We have the first Trump administration because we tried to win them over and they bit us in the ass instead. So you’re not exactly winning me over with this argument.

100,000 votes. That’s what we needed and didn’t get. Let’s piss away the next generation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:31:49am

re: #105 Dave In Austin

Thank you Rick…..

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The best travel guy in the biz. Not just an excellent travel guide but an excellent person as well.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:31:55am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:32:18am

re: #106 Birth Control Works

In Travis County custody case, jury will search for real Alex Jones

What kind of fuckup state (other than Texas of course) relies on a jury to make decisions about child custody? Anywhere else relies on judges to make those decisions, in private, right?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:33:16am

re: #107 Timothy Watson

‘We’re truly sorry’: Fla. apologizes for racial injustice of 1949 ‘Groveland Four’ rape case

I think I read about this when I read “The Warmth of Other Suns.” So many cases like this but yeah black people just need to get over “Jim Crow” when many living people can remember cases like this.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:33:36am

re: #111 Timothy Watson

What kind of fuckup state (other than Texas of course) relies on a jury to make decisions about child custody? Anywhere else relies on judges to make those decisions, in private, right?

I’m not sure. I know from a Guardian Ad Litem that it is often a room full of lawyers and a judge.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:34:13am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

100,000 votes. That’s what we needed and didn’t get. Let’s piss away the next generation.

How about we focus on dealing with voter suppression, or it won’t fucking matter how many of the “next generation” we bring to our side because the bulk of them will be stuck behind “do not pass” signs while their whiter counterparts reelect Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:34:21am

re: #58 wheat-dogg

I’m sure they have a section about P&G’s corporate symbol, too.

I remember all too well being forced to go to my aunt’s Foursquare church and hear the Pulpit Pimping Preacher denounce the “Satanic” Procter & Gamble. He demanded that everyone boycott that demonic company. And what did my Aunt do? When she came home, out went the Ivory soap and she got down on her knees in the bathroom and begged Jesus to forgive her for succumbing to demons. I just looked at this bout of utter insanity and I was so tempted to call 911…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:36:19am

re: #114 Targetpractice

How about we focus on dealing with voter suppression, or it won’t fucking matter how many of the “next generation” we bring to our side because the bulk of them will be stuck behind “do not pass” signs while their whiter counterparts reelect Trump.

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third will take care of our voting rights, especially if he has 8 years to do it.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:36:51am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Incompetent shits.

Oh, ol’ Attorney General Jeff is making a list and checking it twice. He’s gonna find out who’s naughty and nice according to the fascists at the Federalist Society!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:37:55am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

A shocking suggestion. Watt are you thinking?

Pretty sure you should be banned for those two puns.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:39:53am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third will take care of our voting rights, especially if he has 8 years to do it.

And he’s going to have an easier time of it if we adopt the wisdom of Bernie “Second Coming of Nader” Sanders that the problem is we spend too much time worrying about civil rights and too little hanging bankers from lamp posts.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:41:00am

re: #119 Targetpractice

And he’s going to have an easier time of it if we adopt the wisdom of Bernie “Second Coming of Nader” Sanders that the problem is we spend too much time worrying about civil rights and too little hanging bankers from lamp posts.

An actual competent Democratic coalition could do a little of both to good effect.

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electrotek  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:41:35am
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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:44:12am

re: #121 electrotek

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“Worlds Top Atheist” is a lot like “World’s Top Person Who Won’t Eat Brussels Sprouts”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:44:29am

The question is how do you get people to your coalition who frankly only seem to support it unless it’s nominating candidates they explictly want or their favorite candidate wants. I’ve seen a lot of what the Sanders diehards want. They either want people like Bernie or Gabbard. They’re not always going to get their candidate of choice. And they insist on throwing tantrums when they don’t.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:44:34am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

An actual competent Democratic coalition could do a little of both to good effect.

We had such a coalition at one time…then the Naderites abandoned it because it was found wanting and it was washed away by the Tea Party flood. Now you ask that we make that same mistake again.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:44:55am

re: #121 electrotek

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He’s a douchecanoe.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:45:37am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

The question is how do you get people to your coalition who frankly only seem to support it unless it’s nominating candidates they explictly want or their favorite candidate wants. I’ve seen a lot of what the Sanders diehards want. They either want people like Bernie or Gabbard. They’re not always going to get their candidate of choice. And they insist on throwing tantrums when they don’t.

Most of them grow up. The rest can be quietly ignored.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:46:01am

re: #124 Targetpractice

We had such a coalition at one time…then the Naderites abandoned it because it was found wanting and it was washed away by the Tea Party flood. Now you ask that we make that same mistake again.

And the alternative…?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:46:16am

The future of our party is NOT a man who will turn 80 years old the first year of the next Presidential term and it’s regrettable that so many Sanders diehards are caught up in their zeal that they don’t get that. The future of our party is people like Ossoff. Young people with new ideas and new perspectives.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:46:53am

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:47:14am

re: #127 Birth Control Works

Ivanka Trump Dines With Xi Jinping, Wins Chinese Trademarks

It’s all about that guanxi….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:47:15am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Most of them grow up. The rest can be quietly ignored.

I think you’re making the mistake of thinking a lot of them are just overzealous kids. A lot of them are in fact immature adults who remember the Nader tantrum in 2000 and don’t care. Susan Sarandon in fact is older than both of my parents.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:47:30am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

The future of our party is NOT a man who will turn 80 years old the first year of the next Presidential term and it’s regrettable that so many Sanders diehards are caught up in their zeal that they don’t get that. The future of our party is people like Ossoff. Young people with new ideas and new perspectives.

Yes, that’s true—regrettable. Then what?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:48:06am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I think you’re making the mistake of thinking a lot of them are just overzealous kids. A lot of them are in fact immature adults who remember the Nader tantrum in 2000 and don’t care. Susan Sarandon in fact is older than both of my parents.

She’s been on “Ignore” for some time.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:49:17am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Yes, that’s true—regrettable. Then what?

I think we need to focus on getting the vote out in our base. Our real base. Not the people who claim to be the base but abandon the Democratic Party and claim to be independent whenever things go tough. I consider myself a staunch Democratic voter. I voted for Creigh Deeds when much of VA was voting for the eventual crook, McDonnell. The Dems need to be focused on people like that. Not lefty puritans.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:50:10am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

She’s been on “Ignore” for some time.

As she should be. I guess my point is it’s easy to see the Sanders diehards as a bunch of young and overzealous kids and indeed many are but a lot have been on this rodeo before and I can’t cut them slack the way I would someone much younger.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:52:23am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

And the alternative…?

Building a coalition around the one that worked in 2006: Disaffected Trump supporters who are not onboard with the Bernie wish list and getting a 50-state strategy that allows candidates to run on policies that work for their demographics. You want to beat Trump? You’re going to need to learn to love guys like Joe Manchin because they’re the sort of guys who will win those ruby red districts.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:54:09am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

As she should be. I guess my point is it’s easy to see the Sanders diehards as a bunch of young and overzealous kids and indeed many are but a lot have been on this rodeo before and I can’t cut them slack the way I would someone much younger.

Educate them or ignore them. It’s not like you can make them stand in the corner.

We just had the easy presidential election. The next one is going to be much harder. We can’t afford to flush any allies just because they’re the wrong age, color, sex, or class.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:54:49am

Want to know why the Dems have grown strong here in VA? They went after immigrants and their children. They didn’t dismiss their concerns to chase some WWC unicorn into the rainbow. The Democratic Party of Virginia thus today in 2017 is a party that has immigrants and the children of immigrants in it as much as people whose families have been here a long time like my own. Now, would I prefer that we oppose right to work laws? Sure, but hostility to labor took generations to build up and it will take some time to make people more friendly to pro-labor policies.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:55:10am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:55:45am

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Educate them or ignore them. It’s not like you can make them stand in the corner.

We just had the easy presidential election. The next one is going to be much harder. We can’t afford to flush any allies just because they’re the wrong age, color, sex, or class.

I’m not saying we flush them away DD but they shouldn’t be our focus. If they want to be a part of it, fine but stop making Bernie and Bernie’s litmus test our litmus test and this is coming from a guy who is working for the man Bernie endorsed for governor here in VA.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:56:07am

re: #142 Birth Control Works

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So much for Western Republicans and their support of “small government and individual rights” eh?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:56:39am

re: #142 Birth Control Works

We should try to appeal to these people!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:58:23am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I’m not saying we flush them away DD but they shouldn’t be our focus. If they want to be a part of it, fine but stop making Bernie and Bernie’s litmus test our litmus test and this is coming from a guy who is working for the man Bernie endorsed for governor here in VA.

When did we last have a focus other than a flair for novelty?

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wheat-dogg  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:59:05am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

“Worlds Top Atheist” is a lot like “World’s Top Person Who Won’t Eat Brussels Sprouts”.

Sounds like an Onion headline. “World’s Top Atheist Volunteers as Easter Bunny at Local Mall”

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:59:05am

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:59:24am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

When did we last have a focus other than a flair for novelty?

I think Obama’s campaigns in 2008/12 were greatly focused. He didn’t become the first Democrat since FDR to get over 50% of the vote twice for nothing.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:59:36am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Want to know why the Dems have grown strong here in VA? They went after immigrants and their children. They didn’t dismiss their concerns to chase some WWC unicorn into the rainbow. The Democratic Party of Virginia thus today in 2017 is a party that has immigrants and the children of immigrants in it as much as people whose families have been here a long time like my own. Now, would I prefer that we oppose right to work laws? Sure, but hostility to labor took generations to build up and it will take some time to make people more friendly to pro-labor policies.

And I’ve mentioned my dislike for Jim Webb before. But his campaign spent a lot of time and effort with the Korean-American community in Northern Virginia.

But, no, according to Bernie Sanders, we should spend time trying to persuade people who liked George Felix Allen because he proudly displayed a Confederate flag and enjoyed the fact that a sitting Senator ridiculed someone with racial slurs.

(Full disclosure: I voted for Allen, but would prefer not to talk about that…)

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 5:59:50am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Congrats to Ossoff in GA-6 for nearly pulling off the unthinkable - running in a deep red district for a seat previously held by the current HHS Secretary Price, and nearly getting the magic 50% needed to avoid a runoff against a clown car of GOPers.

Trump, of course, thinks that this shows GOP strength. Ayep.

Meanwhile, the law and disorder president has yet to identify anyone to replace all those fired federal attorneys. There’s 91 positions that need to be filled, and he hasn’t gotten a single name. That means that the agenda for those offices remains in the air, and cases/direction of those offices is in limbo.

Welcome back my friends to the shit show that never seems to end. We’re so glad you could attend, come inside come inside..

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:02:20am

re: #150 Timothy Watson

And I’ve mentioned my dislike for Jim Webb before. But his campaign spent a lot of time and effort with the Korean-American community in Northern Virginia.

But, no, according to Bernie Sanders, we should spend time trying to persuade people who liked George Felix Allen because he proudly displayed a Confederate flag and enjoyed the fact that a sitting Senator ridiculed someone with racial slurs.

(Full disclosure: I voted for Allen, but would prefer not to talk about that…)

Absolutely. Honestly, it’s very easy for Sanders to dismiss the concerns of immigrant communities and racial minority communities as being “distractions” to the “class struggle” when he represents a state with racial demographics nowhere close to our historical demographics let alone our current demographics.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:03:37am

re: #151 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Congrats to Ossoff in GA-6 for nearly pulling off the unthinkable - running in a deep red district for a seat previously held by the current HHS Secretary Price, and nearly getting the magic 50% needed to avoid a runoff against a clown car of GOPers.

Trump, of course, thinks that this shows GOP strength. Ayep.

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Welcome back my friends to the shit show that never seems to end. We’re so glad you could attend, come inside come inside..

They haven’t even won the run off yet. And honestly the fact that Ossoff forced a run off in Newt fucking Gingrich’s former district is pretty impressive. Donald should definitely be worried but I am glad he’s not. Because it’s going to bite him in the ass in the end.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:04:27am

Speaking of shit shows, it looks like Bernie Sanders admits what we here have known all along. He’s not a Democrat.

So… Democrats - stop treating him the fuck like one.

He took advantage of Democratic party largesse to run on the Democratic party ticket instead of running as an independent, and he promptly began attacking the very system that let him run. He attacked those who were giving him the benefit of doubt (where none was deserved). There’s a reason that lots of Democrats resented him - because he wasn’t a Democrat and he was getting all the privileges of being one. He didn’t have to create his own mailing lists, campaign infrastructure, or do the heavy lifting needed to get on the ballot as an independent.

So, there’s no reason that Democrats should treat him as anything other than an outsider. Getting to shift policy of the party was already a bridge too far, and the Bernie bros are still agitating, all while crapping all over minorities who are the backbone of the party - women, persons of color, religious and ethnic groups that the GOP sees as a threat. Bernie’s people see those same groups as a threat, and thinks that his economic mumbo jumbo is the winning argument. It’s just nativism from the left.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:04:40am

I don’t mean to dismiss class issues. They ARE important but so are those other issues and Sanders thinks those are distractions. It’s arrogant of him to say that. It’s not his family or people in his constituency that worry about deportation or being harassed for looking different.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:05:21am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I think Obama’s campaigns in 2008/12 were greatly focused. He didn’t become the first Democrat since FDR to get over 50% of the vote twice for nothing.

His campaigns were brilliant, especially at street level. Why didn’t that carry over? Where was the new Votebuilder? We got trapped into depending on a personality-driven contest.

(Bernie would obviously have been worse.)

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:08:00am

Trump: Making the world less safe and fucking over our allies by the day:

Putin couldn’t have asked for a better puppet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:09:17am

I wish Ossoff would have gotten the 50% needed. I just don’t see him winning in June against one opponent who all Republicans will unite behind while we still have our Bernies.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:09:41am

re: #157 lawhawk

Trump: Making the world less safe and fucking over our allies by the day:

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Putin couldn’t have asked for a better puppet.

The militaries and governments had to know the carrier wasn’t in the area, if by nothing else than not seeing it by military reconnaissance.

But now they’ve been publicly embarrassed by the media picking up that it wasn’t there.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:11:08am

re: #158 GlutenFreeJesus

I think it’s doable. That he got to just shy of 50% shows that Democrats can win when they show up.

That Democrats have made a deep red district in play shows what happens when you put Democrats up in districts. An all district campaign in 2018 would go a long way to stopping the GOP attempts to gut and filet the functioning government.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:12:04am

re: #158 GlutenFreeJesus

I wish Ossoff would have gotten the 50% needed. I just don’t see him winning in June against one opponent who all Republicans will unite behind while we still have our Bernies.

He’ll keep most of his voters—the Republicans will have to work to do that. Even if we don’t pick up the seat, this was a very good result.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:14:38am

re: #151 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Congrats to Ossoff in GA-6 for nearly pulling off the unthinkable - running in a deep red district for a seat previously held by the current HHS Secretary Price, and nearly getting the magic 50% needed to avoid a runoff against a clown car of GOPers.

Trump, of course, thinks that this shows GOP strength. Ayep.

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Welcome back my friends to the shit show that never seems to end. We’re so glad you could attend, come inside come inside..

Comrade Combover feels convinced that the GOP’s strength was on display, but Ossoff pretty clearly demonstrated just how much of a FUBAR situation the GOP is in right now. When you tally up the vote percentages of all the GOP candidates, the final vote tally was (rounded) 52-48 in their favor. This is in a district where Tom Price won reelection just months ago by 20%, so already the party’s support is down by a factor of 10. And Price was pretty much an institution of Georgia politics, having served in one capacity for another for 20 years before Trump called him up from Congress. The woman running for his slot has 3 years as Georgia SecState and several failed campaigns under her belt.

You can bet that a lot of top-level Republicans opened their morning paper and immediately reached for the Maalox.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:17:37am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

He’ll keep most of his voters—the Republicans will have to work to do that. Even if we don’t pick up the seat, this was a very good result.

Ayep, Handel has to not only keep her voters, but forge a coalition with the Trumpers whose candidates just imploded last night. Not saying its impossible in the era of Tea Party politics, but it is going to cost her at the ballot box. I’m curious if her campaign has called up the White House yet and asked for them to muzzle their boss until after the run-off.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:20:58am

re: #121 electrotek

That’s a special kind of repulsive.

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I cannot.  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:21:15am

re: #162 Targetpractice

You can bet that a lot of top-level Republicans opened their morning paper and immediately reached for the Maalox Jack Daniels.

FTFY

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:23:12am

re: #22 Anymouse

Well, I wasn’t re-volted. Currently, my capacitance for puns is impeded by being tired, thus the frequency of the attempt at puns in this sentence hertz my brain. I’m just happy my “ohm on the range” is warm again.

Ok, we got two that need a bannin’

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:24:10am

Interesting read about that missile defense system that’s supposed to protect us fromNK/Iranian nukes. A $40B boondoggle.

nbcnews.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:24:15am

OFFS

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:24:43am

re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ok, we got two that need a bannin’

I’ve had enough of his hysteresis.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:25:31am

re: #163 Targetpractice

The Republican hatred for all things not them will all come together in June. They’ll support anyone who has an (R) after their name. Anyone.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:26:18am

re: #121 electrotek

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:26:26am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

He’ll keep most of his voters—the Republicans will have to work to do that. Even if we don’t pick up the seat, this was a very good result.

Even if Handel wins, this district will obviously be a target in the 2018 midterms.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:28:37am

re: #167 GlutenFreeJesus

How reassuring.

What’s reassuring is that the North Korean missile tech isn’t at a point where they can reliably launch attacks against targets outside a few hundred miles of the Korean peninsula, let alone hit those targets.

Also reassuring? The Trump admin was forced to admit that the Six Party Talks deal on Iran’s nuclear program is working. Iran continues complying with the terms of the deal.

War hawks haz a sad.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:29:11am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:29:29am

re: #2 teleskiguy

Despite major outside money, FAKE media support and eleven Republican candidates, BIG “R” win with runoff in Georgia. Glad to be of help!

— Donald J. Trump

“FAKE media support”. Does this mean he got media support but not real media support, or that rumors of his media support were fake or that….

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:29:50am

re: #170 GlutenFreeJesus

The Republican hatred for all things not them will all come together in June. They’ll support anyone who has an (R) after their name. Anyone.

The flip side to that is such thinking breeds complacency, something that the GOP cannot afford with the margins from last night. They need pretty much every single vote that showed up last night to go to Handel just to eek out a 2-point win. If any of the pro-Trump crowd abandons her, Ossoff could pull even or even beat her in June.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:30:21am

Also too: Cheeto Bandito complained that Canada is being “very, very unfair” to U.S. dairy farmers by (get this) PLACING IMPORT TARIFFS on certain milk products imported from the United States.

Yes, it’s OK for Trump to impose import tariffs but any other country that does that is “very, very unfair” (Donald puckers up his tiny little mouth hole)

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I cannot.  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:30:23am

re: #158 GlutenFreeJesus

Remember we have about two more months of Trump…assuming the world isn’t a Mad Max hellscape by then, the fact that she’s an R *might* work in his favor…

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Birth Control Works  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:32:15am

back to sleep for awhile.

bbl

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:32:16am

re: #173 lawhawk

Not mentioned however are Russian nukes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:32:36am

Wait for it: Georgia GOP will claim anyone who doesn’t vote for Handel is A WIMMENZ HATER!!!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:33:40am

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Also too: Cheeto Bandito complained that Canada is being “very, very unfair” to U.S. dairy farmers by (get this) PLACING IMPORT TARIFFS on certain milk products imported from the United States.

Yes, it’s OK for Trump to impose import tariffs but any other country that does that is “very, very unfair” (Donald puckers up his tiny little mouth hole)

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Yeah, Comrade Combover’s coming down on H-1B visas, but H-2B visas are going to be left alone. In other words we don’t want your best and brightest in this country, but we’re all for you sending over your fruit pickers and your landscapers.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:36:40am

re: #180 GlutenFreeJesus

Sting - Russians

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:38:44am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:38:53am

re: #54 Anymouse

This despicable icon provides a dangerous double dose of Illuminati brainwash. Seeing the sun is one thing, but the typeset is sending subliminal messages telling people to be bad. At this point, if you are not convinced that the Illuminati is real, then we strongly urge you to reconsider your opinion. The abundance of symbols that assault your senses on a daily basis are not accidental coincidences. They are a means to control your mind.

Everyone should read the The Illuminatus! Trilogy: The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple, Leviathan to get a real solid understanding of the Illuminati. Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson wrote the best and most amusing chronicles, evah.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:40:24am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

Wait for it: Georgia GOP will claim anyone who doesn’t vote for Handel is A WIMMENZ HATER!!!!

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“You liberals can’t deal with a strong, independent woman!”

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:42:39am

Trump is a former reality tv show host who’s always fancied himself a Hollywood bigwig and a billionaire who keeps getting snubbed the the NY elites because everyone can see thru his nonsense (and one of the ways the elite know who’s who is by their donations to various causes).

For instance, go look at the donation rolls for any major NYC institution and you’ll see Lauders, Bloomberg, Silverstein, etc., but nary a mention of Trump - because he doesn’t donate. He just doesn’t.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:51:41am

re: #14 JordanRules

Know your audience Dick!

I think he’s trying to recreate the Wilson era in the early 1900s, when blacks were removed from major sports.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 6:54:03am

re: #39 Anymouse

Since it was Jon Ossoff that had the momentum going into tonight’s election (and the counting is not done yet, over fifty percent of the ballots are uncounted), it would have been nice for the other Democrats running to have dropped out and supported him.

Sanders isn’t the only one who can tear down a Democratic race … we have our own Democrats to help us with that.

It’s how the idiot in Maine won his second term as governor.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:17:53am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I don’t mean to dismiss class issues. They ARE important but so are those other issues and Sanders thinks those are distractions. It’s arrogant of him to say that. It’s not his family or people in his constituency that worry about deportation or being harassed for looking different.

Class issues are very important. In America, they will not be fixed without dealing with race issues. The rich will use whatever tools they are given to remain in power, and race is the biggest one.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:27:11am

re: #121 electrotek

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I’m pretty sure I didn’t vote for Dawkins for King of the Atheists.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:28:24am

Morning Everyone. Finally had a chance to catch up. School is busy- School ends one month from today!!!!

Too bad we couldn’t close the deal and go over 50% last night, but I do feel encouraged.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:30:28am

I’m seeing the “last night showed that people don’t want politics as usual” analysis. It was also filled with “the Democratic party is doing it wrong” by only calling Democrats, and that they need to appeal to “moderate” Republicans.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:32:58am

re: #192 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Morning Everyone. Finally had a chance to catch up. School is busy- School ends one month from today!!!!

Too bad we couldn’t close the deal and go over 50% last night, but I do feel encouraged.

Lucky guy. My term ends in July. We’re only at the halfway point now.

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Citizen K  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:34:04am

re: #193 Belafon

I’m seeing the “last night showed that people don’t want politics as usual” analysis. It was also filled with “the Democratic party is doing it wrong” by only calling Democrats, and that they need to appeal to “moderate” Republicans.

Because of course. But notice how that’s never asked of Republicans. Republicans are never expected to reach out, never asked to reach out, hell, punished for daring to reach out. But I guess because Republicans are the “real Americans” and have to be catered to exclusively, or else…

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:34:23am
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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:34:54am

re: #190 Belafon

Class issues are very important. In America, they will not be fixed without dealing with race issues. The rich will use whatever tools they are given to remain in power, and race is the biggest one.

The problem that “progressives” cannot understand is that economic issues and civil rights are intertwined and have been for some time. Job creation is not enough to help Americans if you can be denied a job based upon your skin color or paid less because of your gender.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:37:54am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

We didn’t have a single snow day this year. Two years ago we had two separate 15-20” snowstorms come through the Bluegrass in a month, so this is some good meteorological karma.

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Citizen K  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:38:02am

re: #197 Targetpractice

The problem that “progressives” cannot understand is that economic issues and civil rights are intertwined and have been for some time. Job creation is not enough to help Americans if you can be denied a job based upon your skin color or paid less because of your gender.

As I’ve noted several times before, Americans are heavily discouraged from daring to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Everything has to be distilled down to 1 issue, one source, and two sides, and dare try to characterize things as more complex or nuanced, and you’re ‘elitist’ or ‘ignoring the real issues’. False dichotomies are treated as the ‘real truth’ of everything, and it’s dumbed down the entire discourse. By design, of course.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:39:42am

re: #54 Anymouse

Oh, here’s a really good bit of batshittery:

It works. I like their orange and their grape soda.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:39:55am

re: #196 lawhawk

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So I was wrong earlier, it was actually closer to 51-49. That’s an even worse margin for the GOP because it means they’ve no wiggle room whatsoever. Handel cannot afford to lose any voters from last night or she’s toast.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:42:14am

re: #54 Anymouse

Oh, here’s a really good bit of batshittery:

This is the most awesomesauce thing ever.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:45:21am

Here comes the smears:

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 7:50:13am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I think you’re making the mistake of thinking a lot of them are just overzealous kids. A lot of them are in fact immature adults who remember the Nader tantrum in 2000 and don’t care. Susan Sarandon in fact is older than both of my parents.

The worst Berniebro I knew was 62 years old. I got so sick of his Hillary bashing that I unfriended him. He was a very liberal guy but he just jumped on every conspiracy.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:08:44am

Did everyone sleep in this morning?

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:09:49am
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:10:01am

You guys see this?
Rep. Jason Chaffetz is not running for re-election

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:10:16am
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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:15:52am

re: #208 lawhawk

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He insists he’s not planning a Senate or Gubernatorial run in the future…which means he’s considering both.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:16:13am

re: #208 lawhawk

Chaffetz screwed the pooch and he knows it.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:26:55am

re: #208 lawhawk

He’s having to do a job, and that’s just too much for him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:26:58am

re: #121 electrotek

World’s Top Atheist, Richard Dawkins, Says Christianity Best Defense Against Radical Islam

Further proof of our Founding Fathers’ foresight in separating Church and State.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:29:16am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Chaffetz screwed the pooch and he knows it.

And he knows the pooch is about to screw him back.

I don’t see him as having any difficulty living with the hypocrisy of staging multiple investigations of Clinton while letting Trump run wild, but I also think he’s aware of the shit that’s eventually going to hit the fan. He’s a coward and he doesn’t want to soil his suit. I hope the shit hits the fan before he gets out of office. It needs to damage every republican.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:30:28am

re: #121 electrotek

World’s Top Atheist, Richard Dawkins, Says Christianity Best Defense Against Radical Islam

Did an atheist convention assemble to elect Richard Dawkins Atheist Pope? I did not know that.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:33:47am
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electrotek  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:39:58am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Did an atheist convention assemble to elect Richard Dawkins Atheist Pope? I did not know that.

New Atheists are a rather annoying bunch.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:43:00am

Looks like a lot of Democratic party activity here today.

Yep, the little fractures are evident. So let’s take pick axes and pneumatic jack hammers and make them wider. Let them show. I think we just had an election done by the Democratic road crew, and we picked and hammered that sucker good.

And just for giggles and because it is what Democrats do, let’s toss in the towel on Georgia District 6 now! Why wait ‘til June when you can count yourself out now. Hey, maybe that influences others to give up now too.

And we wonder why Democrats don’t turn out to vote. I’m now thinking one reason is because they try to listen to other Democrats and all the little problems made big and grow confused so they just say fuck it.

Well, at least they don’t go out and vote for Republicans.

Oh and those damn Republicans. They all gathered around what they knew was most likely the worst candidate in history and they gagged and sputtered and backed him anyway. And he won.

But it could have been because it was a personality election. The side with the creep made it personality too and they won.

Differences in party? You betcha!

Yeah…I’m damn frustrated by it all because it never seems to go away. Will I ever see a day when someone can say “Democratic Party Unity” and not be laughing?

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I cannot.  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:43:49am

re: #216 electrotek

There’s a reason why my Twitter avi is a red panda facepalming…the New Atheists is it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:44:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:45:22am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

The Murdochs have decided Bill O’Reilly’s 21-year run at Fox News will come to an end. According to sources briefed on the discussions, network executives are preparing to announce O’Reilly’s departure before he returns from an Italian vacation on April 24. Now the big questions are how the exit will look and who will replace him.

Wednesday morning, according to sources, executives are holding emergency meetings to discuss how they can sever the relationship with the country’s highest-rated cable-news host without causing collateral damage to the network. The board of Fox News’ parent company, 21st Century Fox, is scheduled to meet on Thursday to discuss the matter.

Sources briefed on the discussions say O’Reilly’s exit negotiations are moving quickly. Right now, a key issue on the table is whether he would be allowed to say good-bye to his audience, perhaps the most loyal in all of cable (O’Reilly’s ratings have ticked up during the sexual-harassment allegations). Fox executives are leaning against allowing him to have a sign-off, sources say. The other main issue on the table is money. O’Reilly recently signed a new multiyear contract worth more than $20 million per year. When Roger Ailes left Fox News last summer, the Murdochs paid out $40 million, the remainder of his contract.

More at nymag.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:45:45am

re: #217 ObserverArt

But it could have been because it was a personality election. The side with the creep made it personality too and they won.

He sold himself as the anti-politician, and people lapped it up. He violated nearly every rule and convention of campaigning and won for the very reason that he was audacious enough to do so.

He is now trying to apply that level of sheer spiteful cussedness to governing and discovering that it is not nearly as effective when it is no longer just for show.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:47:47am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Men are insecure.

Thanks, women!

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electrotek  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:48:00am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

I for one would not be ashamed or embarrassed if my hyphothetical wife was earning substantially more than me. No bruised ego from me, because it would keep the household more financially afloat if anything.

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Lupin  Apr 19, 2017 • 8:55:34am

Trump was made into this year’s paper-maché Carnival Buffoon King in my French village, then burned in effigy. Much merriment ensued.

Note the little paper-mache Mexican not paying for the wall.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:00:52am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

‘Many millennial women people are worried, concerned, etc……’

/

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:03:14am

re: #224 Lupin

Trump was made into this year’s paper-maché Carnival Buffoon King in my French village, then burned in effigy. Much merriment ensued.

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Note the little paper-mache Mexican not paying for the wall.

Where do you live? I’ll send my big yuuuuge armada with ships and bomb your country!

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:04:41am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Where do you live? I’ll send my big yuuuuge armada with ships and bomb your country!

(Which will actually be heading to South America instead.)

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:05:38am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Where do you live? I’ll send my big yuuuuge armada with ships and bomb your country!

Bolivia….

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:08:03am

re: #228 b.d.

Bolivia….

Is that in China? Steve, get me a map….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:08:31am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

yas

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O’Reilly will just pop up somewhere else, doing the same shit he always has.

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:08:36am

re: #158 GlutenFreeJesus

I wish Ossoff would have gotten the 50% needed. I just don’t see him winning in June against one opponent who all Republicans will unite behind while we still have our Bernies.

Nope, it was yet another one of a long string of lost opportunities by the Dems. By June, after the non-stop attacks and the millions of dollars of dark money contributions to his opponent, he’ll be lucky to hit 40%.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:08:45am

re: #229 Sir John Barron

Is that in China? Steve Jared, get me a map….

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Lupin  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:08:53am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

We’re about 40 miles south of Carcassonne.

In a way it’s a shame they burned it because the paper-mache Trump is in most respects superior to the real item. We should have sent it to Washington.

A couple of villagers felt they had to apologize to us, but we offered matches.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:10:43am

re: #231 Skip Intro

Nope, it was yet another one of a long string of lost opportunities by the Dems. By June, after the non-stop attacks and the millions of dollars of dark money contributions to his opponent, he’ll be lucky to hit 40%.

No offense, but this is a self-fulfilling prophecy: Keep talking down his chances and he will do worse than 40%. We should take last night’s results as a signal that he has a chance and continue the effort, not throw up our hands and decide that this was our only shot at the brass ring.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:12:16am

re: #234 Targetpractice

No offense, but this is a self-fulfilling prophecy: Keep talking down his chances and he will do worse than 40%. We should take last night’s results as a signal that he has a chance and continue the effort, not throw up our hands and decide that this was our only shot at the brass ring.

“Democrats are doing far better than they have ever done in these areas, but it’s just not good enough, so we’re done.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:12:16am

re: #207 Unshaken Defiance

You guys see this?
Rep. Jason Chaffetz is not running for re-election

So, he says no ulterior motive. I wonder if there are ulterior reasons? Like some skeletons in a closet somewhere about to be exposed and need to be covered over before continuing.

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:13:05am

re: #208 lawhawk

Didn’t Little Marco say the same thing? I’ll believe it when it happens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:13:17am

re: #235 Belafon

“Democrats are doing far better than they have ever done in these areas, but it’s just not good enough, so we’re done.”

“Hillary is a qualified candidate, but she does not live up to my exacting ideological standards, so I am not voting for her”

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:14:04am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I hope FOX doesn’t ever let him back on air again and has to give him TONS of money. He already has more than he can ever spend. Then when he dies, what’s left of his money (after the lawyers of the women who he’s abused get done with him) goes to the kids that he lost custody of in his divorce.

The Appellate Division issued its 1,400-word opinion on February 24, a little over a month after attorneys for O’Reilly and McPhilmy—known in court documents as Anonymous 2011-1 and Anonymous 2011-2—presented oral arguments at the division’s courthouse in Brooklyn Heights. According to the opinion, the court’s four justices unanimously ruled in McPhilmy’s favor based upon “the clearly stated preferences of the children”:

“Viewing the totality of the circumstances, there is a sound and substantial basis for the Supreme Court’s determination that it is in the best interests of the children for the mother to be awarded primary residential custody. Particularly relevant in this case are the clearly stated preferences of the children, especially considering their age and maturity, and the quality of the home environment provided by the mother[.]”

The preference of McPhilmy and O’Reilly’s 17-year-old daughter is not particularly difficult to guess: As we noted last year, she told a court-appointed forensic examiner that she witnessed O’Reilly drag her mother down a staircase by the neck. (According to court transcripts obtained by Gawker, she also viewed O’Reilly as a temperamental, absentee parent who was uninterested in developing a relationship with her.) At a January 22 hearing, the children’s court-appointed lawyer, Barbara Kopman, told the appellate court that both the daughter and son strongly preferred living with their mother over their father. (Gawker was able to attend but not record the court session, which was open to the public.)

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:15:33am

re: #235 Belafon

“Democrats are doing far better than they have ever done in these areas, but it’s just not good enough, so we’re done.”

Yet they keep losing should be the clear message. Time is not on our side here.

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Puss Power  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:15:39am

re: #193 Belafon

I’m seeing the “last night showed that people don’t want politics as usual” analysis. It was also filled with “the Democratic party is doing it wrong” by only calling Democrats, and that they need to appeal to “moderate” Republicans.

For the record, I did some of that calling, and we didn’t limit ourselves to Democrats.

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Anymouse  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:17:27am

re: #191 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I’m pretty sure I didn’t vote for Dawkins for King of the Atheists.

Last I checked, we didn’t have “leaders” as we are not a religious faith. Catholics have a king (the Pope), not atheists.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:18:00am

re: #241 Puss Power

For the record, I did some of that calling, and we didn’t limit ourselves to Democrats.

If Votebuilder was dialing for you, there’s no telling who answered. Time to fix that puppy, or send it to the farm.

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piratedan  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:19:01am

in regards to Bill-o, its just the usual GOP game plan… you run on the high moral and ethical background even tho you’re a complete reprobate and it takes multiple incidents for it to ever catch up with you (if at all) before you’re finally banished from the village. This kind of behavior usually is a death knell for any Dem, but for GOP and their ilk, they’re political cockroaches and their tribe will willingly close ranks in every instance, hell they allow sexual assault and being traitors to be forgivable, what’s serial sexual harassment in comparison?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:22:57am

Here is the action Morris Dees teased about on his visit to TSU this month:

APRIL 18, 2017

Dear xxxxxxxx

Today we’ve filed an important new lawsuit against a neo-Nazi who’s a key figure in the “alt-right” movement that’s been newly energized by the campaign and election of Donald Trump.

Our lawsuit seeks to hold Andrew Anglin accountable for launching a vicious, anti-Semitic campaign of threats and harassment that has terrorized a Jewish woman and her family for months.

Anglin operates the leading white nationalist website - the Daily Stormer. It takes its name from the 1930s Nazi tabloid known as Der Stürmer.

Late last year, he unleashed his racist followers - the “Stormer Troll Army” - against Tanya Gersh, who lives in the small mountain town of Whitefish, Montana. It all started when Anglin accused Gersh of attempting to extort money from the mother of a prominent white nationalist who also lives in the town.

“Tell them you are sickened by their Jew agenda,” Anglin wrote under the headline, “Jews Targeting Richard Spencer’s Mother for Harassment and Extortion - TAKE ACTION!”

The floodgates opened.

Tanya and her family received more than 700 threats and harassing voicemails, texts, emails, social media messages, letters and postcards. Many contained horrifying images invoking the Holocaust. Among them:

Thanks for demonstrating why your race needs to be collectively ovened.

You have no idea what you are doing, six million are only the beginning.

We are going to keep track of you for the rest of your life.

Sometimes, Tanya answered the phone and heard only gunshots.

Even her 12-year-old son wasn’t spared. He received a tweet with the image of an open oven and the message: psst kid, theres a free Xbox One inside this oven.

Anglin’s campaign continued as he published 30 articles and included Gersh’s contact information, along with photographs of her, her husband and son. One picture was altered to include a yellow Star of David with the label “Jude” - an allusion to the emblem the Nazi regime required Jews to wear during World War II.

As you can imagine, Tanya and her family fear for their lives. She experiences panic attacks, fears answering the phone and has trouble leaving her home. Her physical appearance has changed as well. She’s gained weight and lost hair.

Tanya hopes the

lawsuit will stop the attacks.

But there are larger stakes as well. We want to send a strong message to the extremists who use their internet platforms as weapons of intimidation and to encourage hate and violence.

As you may know, we’ve destroyed 10 of the country’s most notorious white supremacist groups with crushing court verdicts. Now, we’re adapting the same legal strategy for the digital age.

Thank you for your dedication to justice. It means a great deal to Tanya to know that so many people are standing with her in this fight.

Sincerely,
Your friends at the SPLC

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:23:00am

re: #240 Skip Intro

Yet they keep losing should be the clear message. Time is not on our side here.

That’s a rather glass-half-empty viewpoint, that we’re losing so nothing has really changed. But in both contests, both held in ruby red districts, the Democrat has cut the Republican advantage down to single digits. Price won reelection just six months ago by better than 20 points and last night Ossoff cut that down to 2 points. Imagine what he could do in June if we kept at it, rather than throwing up our hands and deciding that he’s lost and there’s no point in continuing to support him.

Better food for thought: There’s over three dozen Republicans in districts bluer than KS-04 or GA-06 that are up for reelection next year.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:23:23am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sold himself as the anti-politician, and people lapped it up. He violated nearly every rule and convention of campaigning and won for the very reason that he was audacious enough to do so.

He is now trying to apply that level of sheer spiteful cussedness to governing and discovering that it is not nearly as effective when it is no longer just for show.

Too true.

But my real point is I’ve seen many people say Hillary spent too much time attacking Trump and making it all about him and not getting a message of jobs and economics across. And those were Democrats. Our own people helped dig her grave. Why would other Democrats listen to their own and then enthusiastically go out and vote.

And the Republican held their noses and voted for a pig. They knew he was a pig, but by gawd he was their pig. Let’s rally around the pig…hey!

So, pig it is.

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CongoJack  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:24:16am

re: #244 piratedan

in regards to Bill-o, its just the usual GOP game plan… you run on the high moral and ethical background even tho you’re a complete reprobate and it takes multiple incidents for it to ever catch up with you (if at all) before you’re finally banished from the village. This kind of behavior usually is a death knell for any Dem, but for GOP and their ilk, they’re political cockroaches and their tribe will willingly close ranks in every instance, hell they allow sexual assault and being traitors to be forgivable, what’s serial sexual harassment in comparison?

But if you are Martin Bashir you get kicked off the air because Caribou Barbie gets offended about a very poorly made joke. Last I checked Marin Bashir didn’t sexually assault, sexually harass, or commit domestic violence against anyone.

I wish Martin Bashir’s show was still on instead of Greta VanShill.

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Puss Power  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:25:18am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

Dunno which we were using, but it seemed to be very broad for the early voting days and very focused on election day.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:25:20am

re: #237 Skip Intro

Didn’t Little Marco say the same thing? I’ll believe it when it happens.

“There’s no chance, none, that I run for re-election to the U.S. Senate. You can take that to the bank. Well I lost my run for President. What else can I do? Hey, look, think anybody mind me jumping back into my Senate seat? Here goes….”

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:27:39am

re: #234 Targetpractice

No offense, but this is a self-fulfilling prophecy: Keep talking down his chances and he will do worse than 40%. We should take last night’s results as a signal that he has a chance and continue the effort, not throw up our hands and decide that this was our only shot at the brass ring.

How very un-Democratic party member of you to say that.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:30:04am

re: #242 Anymouse

Last I checked, we didn’t have “leaders” as we are not a religious faith. Catholics have a king (the Pope), not atheists.

Exactly my point. (Besides, I would have voted for Ian McKellan.)

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:30:43am

re: #251 ObserverArt

How very un-Democratic party member of you to say that.

You may say I’m a dreamer…

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:32:08am

re: #236 ObserverArt

So, he says no ulterior motive. I wonder if there are ulterior reasons? Like some skeletons in a closet somewhere about to be exposed and need to be covered over before continuing.

Or, more likely he has some other, more-lucrative gig on the Wingnut Welfare Circuit lined up…

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:33:47am

re: #253 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Exactly my point. (Besides, I would have voted for Ian McKellan.)

Heretic! We all know Patrick Stewart is the one true leader!

//

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electrotek  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:35:16am

PBS’ Rick Steves is totally a stand up guy

Much respect to his generosity.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:36:27am

re: #240 Skip Intro

Yet they keep losing should be the clear message. Time is not on our side here.

It sure isn’t because “they” get the time while “we” start to toss in the towel now.

“They” saw they have a potential problem and are going to take that time and opportunity to do what they always do. Get out the slime and paint and rally their base to get out to vote in June.

Meanwhile too many of “us” are doing exactly what some of “us” are doing. That is taking what are pretty good odds and making sure we destroy them by not trying because we just know what is going to happen anyway.

If you had a sportsball team and you had players saying “we always get beat by State” would you want to be a part of the team? Would you want to coach players with that attitude? Why?

Jeebus, I am now wondering why the hell we even have a Democratic party (team?). The Republicans win anyway.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:40:06am

re: #254 Targetpractice

You may say I’m a dreamer…

…but you’re not the only one!

Edit….grrrr…typing too fast again while working with brain elsewhere. You are=you’re…dammit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:42:11am

re: #256 Targetpractice

Heretic! We all know Patrick Stewart is the one true leader!

//

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:43:56am

re: #255 Jay C

Or, more likely he has some other, more-lucrative gig on the Wingnut Welfare Circuit lined up…

“Hey, man, without Obummer or Hitlery in the WH, what the heck am I going to do with something called the Oversight Committee or whatever it is, in the House?”

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:47:58am

re: #246 Targetpractice

The problem is, and has been since 2014, that Dems have to get off of their asses and vote. That task seems to be beyond many of them.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:49:43am

re: #262 Skip Intro

The problem is, and has been since 2014, that Dems have to get off of their asses and vote. That task seems to be beyond many of them.

Gee, I can’t imagine how a defeatist attitude would have anything to do with that…

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:49:51am
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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:50:10am

A friend in Manhattan just got handed one of these outside Fox News’ studio in NYC.

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:50:57am

re: #263 Targetpractice

Gee, I can’t imagine how a defeatist attitude would have anything to do with that…

Ok, it’s all my fault. I admit it.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:53:25am

re: #263 Targetpractice

Gee, I can’t imagine how a defeatist attitude would have anything to do with that…

The verbal abuse will continue until morale improves.

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CongoJack  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:54:30am

re: #267 stpaulbear

The verbal abuse will continue until morale improves.

Now buck-up buttercup.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:54:54am

re: #266 Skip Intro

Ok, it’s all my fault. I admit it.

It’s not your fault so much as it is the fault of us all. We got complacent after 2006 and 2008, figured that the public was on our side and the GOP was in decline. Then the ACA got passed and we found ourselves on the defense for the first time in a long while. We lost 2010 but we won 2012 so it was a mixed bag. Now the last two major elections saw losses and we’re hard-pressed to keep up that fighting spirit anymore. We’re so used to losing that we don’t know how to win anymore, can’t build the momentum because it’s always “one and done,” either we win outright or we’ve lost yet again.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:55:26am

re: #262 Skip Intro

The problem is, and has been since 2014, that Dems have to get off of their asses and vote. That task seems to be beyond many of them.

2014???

I think it goes back further than that. A lot further.

Heck, a great example was 2010. It appeared then a little bit of success was too much and so “we” needed to fix that by not going out to vote to maintain the success.

I think it goes back to the Vietnam era. Not quite sure, but it feels like once LBJ begged out and Humphrey lost to Nixon bad juju started to enter the Democratic party and instead of beating on Republicans we have been beating on ourselves. And the Republicans have found out key ways to help make it so.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 9:59:07am

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION TRIGGERED

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allegro  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:00:16am

re: #270 ObserverArt

2014???

I think it goes back further than that. A lot further.

Heck, a great example was 2010. It appeared then a little bit of success was too much and so “we” needed to fix that by not going out to vote to maintain the success.

I think it goes back to the Vietnam era. Not quite sure, but it feels like once LBJ begged out and Humphrey lost to Nixon bad juju started to enter the Democratic party and instead of beating on Republicans we have been beating on ourselves. And the Republicans have found out key ways to help make it so.

I think you’re correct. It’s when the right started to make the word “liberal” a negative and everyone, including the media bigly, shrunk back away from being one of Those rather that fight back and own it proudly. Liberal was equated with dirty hippy and that still lingers.

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CongoJack  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:02:02am

re: #269 Targetpractice

re: #270 ObserverArt

I was on college campuses during these elections (2008-2012) doing voter registration and canvassing. In 2010 people who were big Obama supporters (and in college) didn’t understand that Obama had a 4 year term and didn’t understand that there were mid-term elections that were happening. You want to know why we lost in 2010 - our citizenry is uninformed and were not taught civics correctly.

The root of this is education - not ideology - not a purity test - not even the candidates available. It. Is. Education. With DeVos now as Sec of Education…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:02:09am

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION TRIGGERED AGAIN

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:03:20am

I’d mentioned earlier that we’d been hit with a late snowstorm, so here’s a photo gallery from Moravskoslezský Deník.

moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:03:47am

re: #270 ObserverArt

I first posted this back in 2014. It was dead on then, and it’s still dead on now. I have no idea what we do to fix it.

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Interesting Times  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:04:54am

re: #273 CongoJack

I was on college campuses during these elections (2008-2012) doing voter registration and canvassing. In 2010 people who were big Obama supporters (and in college) didn’t understand that Obama had a 4 year term and didn’t understand that there were mid-term elections that were happening.

Evergreen cartoon :/
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:05:47am

re: #277 Interesting Times

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Yep sigh.

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Interesting Times  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:07:11am

re: #276 Skip Intro

I first posted this back in 2014. It was dead on then, and it’s still dead on now. I have no idea what we do to fix it.

To be recycled in June, and for every election thereafter:

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:13:40am

For the moment, I suggest we sit back, take a breather, and watch the slow-motion trainwreck that is Fox preparing to hand O’Reilly his pink slip.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:14:31am

re: #280 Targetpractice

For the moment, I suggest we sit back, take a breather, and watch the slow-motion trainwreck that is Fox preparing to hand O’Reilly his pink slip.

Fuck it, do it live!

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:14:39am
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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:16:36am
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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:17:25am

re: #276 Skip Intro

I first posted this back in 2014. It was dead on then, and it’s still dead on now. I have no idea what we do to fix it.

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And even that started happening earlier than 2014.

I agree we have major civics test failures, but with all the information available online, a lot of it is also self-inflicted. No one is going to learn anything is they don’t want to learn.

And then there is the new political school that teaches conservative civics.

That would be FOX. All the edumacating needed for the GOP base.

The Democrats have none of it, and even lose what we had as we see CNN and MSNBC going Fox-lite.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:18:56am

re: #206 lawhawk

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Our “Law and order” President at work.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:20:25am

re: #285 GlutenFreeJesus

Our “Law and order” President at work.

Our Lesser President.

Lawless and orderless.

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bratwurst  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:24:07am

Fuck, Billy Bush lost his career just for laughing on a bus with a serial sexual harasser.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:24:38am

re: #284 ObserverArt

And even that started happening earlier than 2014.

I agree we have major civics test failures, but with all the information available online, a lot of it is also self-inflicted. No one is going to learn anything is they don’t want to learn.

And then there is the new political school that teaches conservative civics.

That would be FOX. All the edumacating needed for the GOP base.

The Democrats have none of it, and even lose what we had as we see CNN and MSNBC going Fox-lite.

There’s always Air America.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:24:54am

re: #25 retired cynic

I’m up dinging puns, in honor of my late husband, who enjoyed the “lowest form of humor” inordinately. The more in a row, the happier he was. Groan.

I think you misspelled “Noblest form of humor.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:25:07am

what in the utter fuck

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:25:38am

re: #288 Decatur Deb

There’s always Air America.

A prefect example.

Of our issues.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:25:55am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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That damn glass ceiling always holding back Nazis. Do you people have any consideration for those poor souls?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:27:14am

re: #292 Timothy Watson

That damn glass ceiling always holding back Nazis. Do you people have any consideration for those poor souls?

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France already had a queen. We know what happened to her.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:29:50am

Oooh. Comment on Balloon Juice thread about Bill O getting the pink slip:

he can always become a new york times columnist

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Stanley Sea  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:32:36am
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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:34:45am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

So when does the press corps just spontaneously start chanting ‘You. Lie. You. Lie’ out of frustration?

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:35:55am

re: #296 stpaulbear

So when does the press corps just spontaneously start chanting ‘You. Lie. You. Lie’ out of frustration?

Every night, in my dreams.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:37:32am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

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It’s a wonder the man’s pants don’t spontaneously burst into flames.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:38:33am

re: #296 stpaulbear

So when does the press corps just spontaneously start chanting ‘You. Lie. You. Lie’ out of frustration?

the day they start doing their fucking job

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:38:39am

re: #298 Targetpractice

It’s a wonder the man’s pants don’t spontaneously burst into flames.

Asbestos underwear.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:39:19am

re: #296 stpaulbear

So when does the press corps just spontaneously start chanting ‘You. Lie. You. Lie’ out of frustration?

Isn’t that basically what they did when Gronk stuck his head in the briefing room and asked if Spicer needed help? When Spicer said, “No, I got this”, the press corps laughed. I’m not so sure they were laughing with rather than laughing at.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:42:02am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Yeah, don’t rush us. We’re on our way.

/

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:43:12am

re: #295 Stanley Sea

“If you drive east from Texas long enough, you will eventually end up in California.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:45:04am

Update on the Ohio 8-family-member murders now days away from being one year unsolved.

And a good study of what all is wrong with The Drug War and Joblessness in Appalachia.

Or, how we dance around drugs and who we blame and who we do not…think of those poor families needing to get by…as long as they are the right color…or not.

The video is long. They article is shorter. I’m going to put up a few of the key points as I see them.

Article: Officials provide update on Rhoden family murder investigation

Fear in the community is holding back information about the massacre of eight family members in southern Ohio nearly a year after the still-unsolved killings, investigators said Thursday.

Some of that fear is of retaliation by the killers, and some is fear of self-incrimination based on witnesses’ own criminal activity — likely involving drugs — unrelated to the slayings, investigators said.

The sheriff hinted that the victims’ own involvement in drug crime may be holding people back from donating.

“These are human beings, regardless of what they did for a living, regardless if they live in rural Pike County,” Reader said.

One of the victims, Christopher Rhoden Sr., operated a commercial marijuana growing operation on his property “with the purpose of distributing the marijuana,” according to DeWine’s office.

Reader said he believes those responsible were from the area and not out-of-towners. DeWine said the killers had to be familiar with the land around the properties as well as the properties themselves.

Leonard Manley, whose daughter and three grandchildren were killed, said it was suspicious that any assailants were able to get by his daughter’s two dogs.

Rhoden Family Murder Investigation Updte

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:51:48am

Bruce Springsteen & Joe Gruschecky Take Aim at President Trump With New Protest Song.

The song is now available for download at grushecky.com. Joe Gruschecky and the Houserockers will appear this summer at the Wonder Bar in Asbury Park, NJ. on July 8.

Here are the song’s lyrics:

They come from everywhere
A longing to be free
They come to join us here
From sea to shining sea

And they all have a dream
As people always will
To be safe and warm
In that shining city on the hill

Some wanna slam the door
Instead of opening the gate
Aw, let’s turn this thing around
Before it gets too late

It’s up to me and you
Love can conquer hate
I know this to be true
That’s what makes us great

Don’t tell me a lie
And sell it as a fact
I’ve been down that road before
And I ain’t goin’ back

And don’t you brag to me
That you never read a book
I never put my faith
In a con man and his crooks

I won’t follow down that path
And tempt the hands of fate
Aw, let’s turn this thing around
Before it gets too late

It’s up to me and you
Love can conquer hate
I know this to be true
That’s what makes us great

In the quiet of the night
I lie here wide awake
And I ask myself
Is there a difference I can make?

It’s up to me and you
Love can conquer hate
I know this to be true
That’s what makes us great

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:52:02am

re: #304 ObserverArt

I was just reading the Wikipedia page on the case. Horrific, and as pointed out, that such a significant mass murder remains unsolved almost one year later, that some witnesses may be afraid of incriminating themselves in illegal activities as well as being afraid of retaliation by the perpetrator(s).

And with that, good night Lizards; up early for work tomorrow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:53:56am

re: #306 Dr Lizardo

I was just reading the Wikipedia page on the case. Horrific, and as pointed out, that such a significant mass murder remains unsolved almost one year later, that some witnesses may be afraid of incriminating themselves in illegal activities as well as being afraid of retaliation by the perpetrator(s).

And with that, good night Lizards; up early for work tomorrow.

Harkens back to the days of Prohibition…as if we have failed to learn from our own troubled history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:54:19am

what is this

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:54:58am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

what is this

I thought they found the card last night.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:57:11am

Regarding Ossoff: he got 48.1% of the vote yesterday. Another 0.9% went to other Democrats in the primary. Assuming similar turnout in June, his base should be 49%. That means this is still a winnable seat for Democrats. If I were running Ossoff’s campaign, or a PAC on his side, I’d point out that the Republicans have gone with “the Democrats are trying to steal our seat.”

Voters don’t like that kind of language (remember what happened in Massachusetts when somebody referred to the Senate seat as Kennedy’s seat?). The seat doesn’t belong to a person or a party.

Also, keep in mind, Ossoff is going to have another two months or so of Trump being Trump and Handel having to public defend whatever stupid things Trump does in that time.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:57:54am

re: #111 Timothy Watson

What kind of fuckup state (other than Texas of course) relies on a jury to make decisions about child custody? Anywhere else relies on judges to make those decisions, in private, right?

Juries for custody decisions in Texas are rare….it’s an option that is rarely exercised. They are usually resolved via family court.

Alex chose to fight his wife on everything possible, and the battle over the custody of his children went to a jury trial vs. resolved via family court. Which then became a trial of Alex Jones himself.

Anyone surprised?

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:58:35am

Heritage is going after NPR and other arts entities, which it always seems to do, but doesn’t give a crap about the waste that is the defense acquisition bureaucracy, where each new weapons system costs far more than any amount of govt funding for the arts.

Take the F-35 costs versus NPR, NEA, etc.

Or perhaps the Sikorsky CH-53K, which will actually cost more per chopper than the F-35, which is widely lambasted for being expensive.

No, they wont touch the defense budget, but arts and science? Yeah, those can get all the cuts in the world.

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Donkey With No Name  Apr 19, 2017 • 10:59:26am

Democrats have internalized the notion that America doesn’t really agree with them, so not winning is seen as the natural order of things. Until that changes (ahem), we have a tough hill to climb.

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Skip Intro  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:00:00am

re: #312 lawhawk

Well they won’t touch the Trump travel budget either.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:01:12am
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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:04:15am

re: #312 lawhawk

No, they wont touch the defense budget, but arts and science? Yeah, those can get all the cuts in the world.

This has always amazed me. The Defense budget is slightly more than 50% of the discretionary budget. And we spend so much more than everyone else - most of whom are allies, or in the case of China such a large trading partner that war by either side would be foolish. The idea that we can’t touch any of it is just… dumb.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:06:45am

re: #313 Donkey With No Name

Democrats have internalized the notion that America doesn’t really agree with them, so not winning is seen as the natural order of things. Until that changes (ahem), we have a tough hill to climb.

I thought what a lot of Democrats believe is that America agrees with their stances, but will never vote for a dirty liberal to get them done.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:08:10am

Awww, Brady skipped the photo op with Trump.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:09:42am
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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:09:42am
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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:17:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:17:23am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:17:54am

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

One has to wonder at the mind behind that twitter profile that thinks that that picture of 45* is anything but the face of a smug, narcissistic half-wit. And, why would you want it on your banner to the twitterverse But, maybe that’s just me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:18:33am

re: #323 Colère Tueur de Lapin

One has to wonder at the mind behind that twitter profile that thinks that that picture of 45* is anything but the face of a smug, narcissistic half-wit. And, why would you want it on your banner to the twitterverse But, maybe that’s just me.

Russian bot perhaps?

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Kragar  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:25:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:26:47am
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b_sharp  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:30:02am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Bloody hell I wish people would stop appointing some supposed high authority for atheism. Most of us don’t worship authority, of any kind.

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IngisKahn  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:30:17am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:30:34am

re: #327 b_sharp

Bloody hell I wish people would stop appointing some supposed high authority for atheism. Most of us don’t worship authority, of any kind.

The Pope of unbelief!

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jaunte  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:32:44am

President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday announced his intent to nominate 47-year-old Todd Ricketts, the youngest son of billionaire TD Ameritrade founder Joe Ricketts, to be his deputy secretary of commerce.

More ridiculously in-your-face nepotism from Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:32:59am

re: #328 IngisKahn

Just don’t mention the war!

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:33:36am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump simply can’t find anyone to fill positions in his administration. The stench of corruption is so thick that people are waking up to realize that any association with Trump will be toxic.

Meanwhile, Trump continues to ignore the fact that he fired all the federal Attorneys, and hasn’t picked a single replacement - empty positions across the nation.

So, again, what was the rush to have them resign when he doesn’t have anyone to replace them?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:34:22am

re: #332 lawhawk

Trump simply can’t find anyone to fill positions in his administration. The stench of corruption is so thick that people are waking up to realize that any association with Trump will be toxic.

Meanwhile, Trump continues to ignore the fact that he fired all the federal Attorneys, and hasn’t picked a single replacement - empty positions across the nation.

So, again, what was the rush to have them resign when he doesn’t have anyone to replace them?

Now there is nobody who can prosecute him!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:34:39am

re: #332 lawhawk

So, again, what was the rush to have them resign when he doesn’t have anyone to replace them?

Territorial pissing.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:34:50am
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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:35:34am

re: #317 Belafon

I thought what a lot of Democrats believe is that America agrees with their stances, but will never vote for a dirty liberal to get them done.

In the 80s, during my childhood, “liberal” became a dirty word, or at least a smear. Democrats, for whatever reason, rather than trying to defend themselves and their ideology/positions, decided to run away from the word. Instead they took up the mantle of “progressive” or a variety of other labels. They acted like they were ashamed of what they believed in. And people don’t want to vote for someone that’s ashamed of their beliefs.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:39:36am

Yeah, a fawning release letter. Let’s just ignore the sexual harassment and multiple settlements. He brought the ratings and that’s all that mattered until the loss of advertising was too much to ignore.

Women who work at Fox ought to take a good look at that letter and wonder why any of them put up with the nonstop misogyny at the network. Oh wait, limited jobs and a management structure that looks the other way when harassment occurs.

Fox is rotten to the core - and to the top.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:40:51am

re: #336 KGxvi

In the 80s, during my childhood, “liberal” became a dirty word, or at least a smear. Democrats, for whatever reason, rather than trying to defend themselves and their ideology/positions, decided to run away from the word. Instead they took up the mantle of “progressive” or a variety of other labels. They acted like they were ashamed of what they believed in. And people don’t want to vote for someone that’s ashamed of their beliefs.

They also got tarred with the “tax and spend” epithet without explaining what they were spending on or why they were taxing.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:41:57am

This is something.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:46:26am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They also got tarred with the “tax and spend” epithet without explaining what they were spending on or why they were taxing.

As I was moving away from the GOP during the Bush Administration, I remember one of the things I told my dad was along the lines of “one party is tax and spend, one party is borrow and spend… if we’re going to spend the money, I’d rather we pay for it than put it on a credit card.”

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:52:11am

Simon Maloy is enjoying this.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:59:19am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They also got tarred with the “tax and spend” epithet without explaining what they were spending on or why they were taxing.

Actually, they tried (and have been trying for decades): unfortunately for the country, rational explanations are “hard”, while the Republican narrative - that Democrats are picking “ordinary folks’” pockets to give Those People T-bone steaks and Cadillacs - is a lot simpler to process.

And with that, off to the next thread(?)

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 19, 2017 • 11:59:20am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Did an atheist convention assemble to elect Richard Dawkins Atheist Pope? I did not know that.

Yes, but nobody believed that they were seeing the white smoke.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2017 • 12:05:40pm

re: #318 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Awww, Brady skipped the photo op with Trump.

Just heard on local ESPN radio sports talk, Trump did not mention Tom Brady in his talking about the team. Is Donny “Thin Skin” upset Tommy didn’t show up.

Earlier reports had Tom saying he couldn’t make it for personal reason. Some said he is with his mother who is ailing.

Big Ego!


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