Trump’s Lawyers Argue That Protesters Have “No Right” to Protest Against Him

How dare these protesters protest the King?
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Well, this one takes the cake. And I’m not talking about the most beautiful chocolate cake you’ve ever seen.

Donald Trump is being sued for inciting violence at his 2016 Louisville rally at which several African American protesters were assaulted by his fans after he screamed “Get ‘em out of here!” from the stage. And yesterday his lawyers made one of the most ridiculous arguments I think I’ve ever heard of. They’re claiming that even if Trump did incite violence, the protesters had no right to demonstrate at his rally because they were interfering with his First Amendment rights.

Trump’s lawyers also argue that he had every right to call for the removal the protesters since they “obviously interfered with the Trump campaign’s First Amendment right” by “vigorously expressing their disdain for Mr. Trump,” including by chanting and holding up signs depicting Trump’s face on the body of a pig, among other anti-Trump messages.

“Of course, protesters have their own First Amendment right to express dissenting views, but they have no right to do so as part of the campaign rally of the political candidates they oppose,” Trump’s lawyers wrote.

I had to read this article a couple of times to make sure this is really what they’re arguing. It is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:08:50pm

Wait…so I can’t go to a political rally if I don’t support the candidate??

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b.d.  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:13:54pm

There is only one Constitutional amendment that those bozos care about….

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:14:52pm

re: #2 b.d.

There is only one Constitutional amendment that those bozos care about….

Now if we can get them to note that the II Amendment was written by the liberals of the day… .

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:16:57pm

From the previous thread:

re: #186 William Lewis

Just beware of little girls named Mandy if you do…

Well, it worked out okay for Barry Manilow apparently …

Barry Manilow - Mandy • TopPop

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:17:34pm
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Weaselone  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:20:28pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

No…

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:20:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:20:43pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Tried? Umm, It seems to have worked pretty well in my opinion.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:20:48pm

I can’t say “Fuck Trump.” enough.

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makeitstop  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:20:57pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Russia tried to use Trump advisers to infiltrate campaign

Isn’t it pretty goddamned obvious by now that they succeeded?

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nines09  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:21:16pm

What a precious snowflake. Thou shalt not mock thy Emperor. Oh those feelings they mock and hold up for disdain…Oh, the humanity. How dare one hold a differing view? Why just the other day a washed up musician who wanted to have Hillary “suck his barrel” was afforded a meeting with Emperor Snowflake. Him and two other nut stains who call people names…and worse…Oh the fucking humanity.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:22:22pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

So, is Carter Page going to be the fall guy here?

I remember it took a couple years to bring down Richard Nixon, but I don’t want to wait that long on something like this. Even President Nixon wouldn’t be playing around with Russia.

And one has to irresponsibly speculate why Jason Chaffetz is considering leaving the US House before his term is up now. It isn’t to run for Utah governor or Orrin Hatch’s Senate seat (the state already said he has not filed to do that).

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:26:09pm

What does “having the right to remove protestors” have to do with encouraging the mob to beat them up and “I’ll pay your legal fees”?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:27:03pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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“tried”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:28:44pm

re: #12 Anymouse

So, is Carter Page going to be the fall guy here?

I remember it took a couple years to bring down Richard Nixon, but I don’t want to wait that long on something like this. Even President Nixon wouldn’t be playing around with Russia.

And one has to irresponsibly speculate why Jason Chaffetz is considering leaving the US House before his term is up now. It isn’t to run for Utah governor or Orrin Hatch’s Senate seat (the state already said he has not filed to do that).

He says he’s looking for other gigs - seat on a board, or a TV show. It all smacks of ‘to spend more time with his family/exploring other opportunities’.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:29:11pm

New page, confronting hate right in the belly of the beast:
Standing Up to Hate in Lubbock County, Texas
An interview with Stuart Williams, Chairman of the Lubbock County Democratic Party Stuart Williams, Chairman of the Lubbock County Democrats

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:30:02pm

Russian MP Incensed after Son Jailed in US (goes to the BBC, more at the link):

A member of Russian Parliament is outraged after his son was handed down a sentence of 27 years in prison for computer hacking crimes in the US.

Roman Valeryevich Seleznev, 32, was convicted in August for stealing credit card data from US restaurants, causing nearly $170m (£132m) in damages.

Russian MP Valery Seleznev said the sentence was “passed by man-eaters” and that his son was “abducted”.

Seleznev made millions by selling the data on the dark web, US officials say.

“It’s a sentence passed by man-eaters…My son was abducted,” Mr Seleznevtold RIA Novosti news agency.

Mr Seleznev, a member of the lower house of the Russian legislature known as the Duma, is an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the New York Times reports.

“My son was tortured because being in jail in a foreign country after abduction is torture in itself. He is innocent,” he continued.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

re: #17 Anymouse

Trump pardon coming in 3…2…1…

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:33:30pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

His exit is so abrupt, and he is such a greasy, disreputable shit, that my assumption is that something really big is looming over him.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:34:21pm

re: #17 Anymouse

Russian MP Incensed after Son Jailed in US (goes to the BBC, more at the link):

Oh the horror! I suggest a compromise. It’s likely he stole a few Turkish credit cards in the process. We can extradite him there if the old man hates American jails so much.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:34:54pm

re: #12 Anymouse

So, is Carter Page going to be the fall guy here?

I remember it took a couple years to bring down Richard Nixon, but I don’t want to wait that long on something like this. Even President Nixon wouldn’t be playing around with Russia.

And one has to irresponsibly speculate why Jason Chaffetz is considering leaving the US House before his term is up now. It isn’t to run for Utah governor or Orrin Hatch’s Senate seat (the state already said he has not filed to do that).

‘Only Nixon could go to China.’

‘Only Trump can stay there.’

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:36:48pm
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Mike Lamb  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:37:57pm

I get the argument…they are trying to suggest that it’s effectively a private event, and while protesters have first amendment rights, they don’t have the right to enter a private event to express their views. As another example, people don’t have the right to enter a private business and start berating the owner.

With that said, just because a protester doesn’t have the right to enter a (theoretically) private event and express dissenting views, doesn’t mean people get to kick the shit out of them at Trump’s command.

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:39:48pm
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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:40:34pm

Twitter tearing up Jeff Sessions over his #IslandinthePacific remark that he doubled down on this morning.

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:41:25pm

re: #23 Mike Lamb

Campaign rallies being deemed “private events” is a new low in America politics. Now Trump has normalized it by holding post-election “rallies” only for “his people”.

This is why you never elect malignant narcissists to anything.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:42:03pm

re: #22 Anymouse

“Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale
About an orange skinned creep.
He made the country worse for us,
Week after stinking week…”

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:42:50pm
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451_Montag  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:43:28pm

re: #3 Anymouse

Now if we can get them to note that the II Amendment was written by the liberals of the day… .

From last thread. I never knew the shaft of a scythe was called a snath! Now I’ll have to figure out a way to get that into a conversation.

Seriously, no snark but I love learning new words!

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:44:25pm

Can we call them “fascists” now?

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:45:43pm

re: #29 451_Montag

From last thread. I never knew the shaft of a scythe was called a snath! Now I’ll have to figure out a way to get that into a conversation.

Seriously, no snark but I love learning new words!

I am cursed with a large vocabulary. Good thing I didn’t go to college to ruin it. /s

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:47:37pm

re: #30 freetoken

Can we call them “fascists” now?

YouTube

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:48:01pm

re: #28 gocart mozart

Good God I thought that was a Poe.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:50:48pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

Campaign rallies being deemed “private events” is a new low in America politics. Now Trump has normalized it by holding post-election “rallies” only for “his people”.

This is why you never elect malignant narcissists to anything.

I actually don’t have a problem with it. People can protest outside the event. I doubt that Bernie supporters that were interrupting an HRC event were allowed to stay.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:51:24pm

Now I’m feeling old. I just pulled a two-foot long white hair out of my head.

A white hair.

How did it grow so long before I noticed it was white?

I can’t be old. I still ride shopping carts across parking lots and in store aisles (to the embarrassment of my wife).

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:53:07pm

re: #34 Mike Lamb

I actually don’t have a problem with it. People can protest outside the event. I doubt that Bernie supporters that were interrupting an HRC event were allowed to stay.

It’s not the making them leave that’s the problem. It’s telling the crowd to beat them up and I’ll pay your legal fees that is.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:53:47pm

re: #34 Mike Lamb

I actually don’t have a problem with it. People can protest outside the event. I doubt that Bernie supporters that were interrupting an HRC event were allowed to stay.

I don’t have a problem with removing protesters from a political event. (Perhaps the Dems should have done more of that during the Tea Party astroturf campaign, which in retrospect might have been a good thing.)

I do have a problem with a candidate inciting violence, which is what the suit is about.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:55:39pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…so I can’t go to a political rally if I don’t support the candidate??

Sure you can. You just can’t say anything, wear anything and carry anything that identifies you are not a Trump supporter.

Welcome to Thin Skin American President. He can say anything but he can’t take it.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:55:47pm

LOL

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whitebeach  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:55:58pm

re: #35 Anymouse

Now I’m feeling old. I just pulled a two-foot long white hair out of my head.

A white hair.

How did it grow so long before I noticed it was white?

Possibly your vision is failing too?

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 2:59:38pm

re: #40 whitebeach

Possibly your vision is failing too?

My last eye exam was okay. (Doc: Read the lowest line you can read on the chart, Me: American Ophthalmology Association, Cleveland, Ohio)

I’ve been wearing bifocals since I was sixteen.

In snarky discussions about “blind drivers,” I note that I know I can see because I wear spectacles. I don’t know about those who don’t, they should be given a wide berth on the road.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:00:19pm

re: #40 whitebeach

Possibly your vision is failing too?

I’m brown/white colour-blind, apparently.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:00:38pm

re: #37 Anymouse

I don’t have a problem with removing protesters from a political event. (Perhaps the Dems should have done more of that during the Tea Party astroturf campaign, which in retrospect might have been a good thing.)

I do have a problem with a candidate inciting violence, which is what the suit is about.

At least you still have hair! I started going bald when I was 22. I was actually hoping I’d be like my old man and just have salt and pepper hair by the time I was 25.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:02:29pm

*nudges thread with a stick*

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makeitstop  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:02:31pm

Why is CNN trying to re-calibrate the narrative on the Russian collusion?

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:02:40pm

re: #41 Anymouse

Thinking of Mick Mannock, the top scoring British ace of WWI.

He was blind in one eye, so he memorized the chart to pass the vision exam.

Knocked down 73 German aircraft.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:03:24pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

At least you still have hair! I started going bald when I was 22. I was actually hoping I’d be like my old man and just have salt and pepper hair by the time I was 25.

I don’t know how long men retain their hair in my family, because I am the longest-lived man in my family’s memory. (That by itself is not a good sign: “Wow, he lived to be fifty-seven! At least he still has his waist-long hair.”)

More LOL:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:03:29pm

re: #41 Anymouse

My last eye exam was okay. (Doc: Read the lowest line you can read on the chart, Me: American Ophthalmology Association, Cleveland, Ohio)

I’ve been wearing bifocals since I was sixteen.

In snarky discussions about “blind drivers,” I note that I know I can see because I wear spectacles. I don’t know about those who don’t, they should be given a wide berth on the road.

There’s a sign on Kings Mountain Road in Woodside that never fails to make me laugh…

Seems like a bad idea.
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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:03:44pm

re: #45 makeitstop

Why is CNN trying to re-calibrate the narrative on the Russian collusion?

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CNN invested in Trump early and has its moments of lucidity should not be mistaken as signs that the fever has broken.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:04:06pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Trump has been good for CNN business.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:05:03pm

re: #37 Anymouse

I don’t have a problem with removing protesters from a political event. (Perhaps the Dems should have done more of that during the Tea Party astroturf campaign, which in retrospect might have been a good thing.)

I do have a problem with a candidate inciting violence, which is what the suit is about.

Right, of course. That’s why the lawyers’ argument doesn’t make sense.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:06:03pm

re: #50 freetoken

Trump has been good for CNN business.

They needed something new after milking MH-370 for all it was worth.

I can’t imagine Ted Turner would approve of this if he was still in charge.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:07:44pm

re: #47 Anymouse

I don’t know how long men retain their hair in my family, because I am the longest-lived man in my family’s memory. (That by itself is not a good sign: “Wow, he lived to be fifty-seven! At least he still has his waist-long hair.”)

More LOL:

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My father has already outlived his father by nearly 15 years, but that’s largely because my paternal grandfather dropped dead of a massive coronary at 45. I just found out the other day that the reason his doctors realized he had angina was because he’d had a heart attack, something he had not told me in the years since he was first diagnosed. I needed a winch to drag my jaw off the floor when he told me that.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:08:47pm

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, can you imagine if Obama had done this?

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:09:45pm

Then there are “blind corner” signs that you can buy right here through LGF from Amazon.
amazon.com

Blind corner doesn’t make sense to me: corners don’t have eyes - they are all blind in that respect.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:10:30pm

It doesn’t matter that crime has fallen dramatically in NYC and continues to do so, and that it’s not even in the top 20 most dangerous cities. It’s New York City, and it’s full of Those People, and so it MUST BE an urban hellhole of crime, poverty, and despair where you get shot going out for a loaf of bread.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:11:11pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, can you imagine if Obama had done this?

These people went apeshit over Obama suggesting that Fox News wasn’t a real news organization.

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:12:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:12:47pm

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

It doesn’t matter that crime has fallen dramatically in NYC and continues to do so, and that it’s not even in the top 20 most dangerous cities. It’s New York City, and it’s full of Those People, and so it MUST BE an urban hellhole of crime, poverty, and despair where you get shot going out for a loaf of bread.

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I said it when he was nominated for AG but Sessions really does have the potential to be the most deplorable member of this administration doe to his bigotry and sheer ignorance.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:14:05pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

My father has already outlived his father by nearly 15 years, but that’s largely because my paternal grandfather dropped dead of a massive coronary at 45. I just found out the other day that the reason his doctors realized he had angina was because he’d had a heart attack, something he had not told me in the years since he was first diagnosed. I needed a winch to drag my jaw off the floor when he told me that.

My mother suffered a brain aneurysm a couple years ago that burst. By great fortune, my step-father was able to get her to the hospital (he didn’t wait for an ambulance) where they were able to do emergency surgery and save her life. (One of the advantages of living in a city like Chicago versus living in a village like me.)

The hospital notified the VA over that, because the nature of the aneurysm was such that it could be hereditary. The VA notified my sister (who does not have VA benefits though she was in the Army) and me to come in to our respective VA hospitals ASAP for MRI scans to see if we also might have the same.

Neither of us came up with an aneurysm, but that was one heck of a scare for all of us.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:15:00pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

These people went apeshit over Obama suggesting that Fox News wasn’t a real news organization.

And now Mr. Trump claims everyone is not a real news organisation but FOX. Is there a problem here? /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:17:02pm

Trump: Why can’t I do all the cool stuff Putin does?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:17:05pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

These people went apeshit over Obama suggesting that Fox News wasn’t a real news organization.

I’ve stopped marveling at how much slack the Right cuts Trump. When he said he could shoot somebody and not lose any supporters, and he didn’t lose any supporters, it was clear that it’s far, far beyond reason. They love the IDEA of him, and they love it SO MUCH, and SO INTENSELY, that even his continuing failure to live up to his own promises means nothing to them as long as he SAYS he’s living up to them.

Honestly, it’s the most frightening mass psychosis I’ve seen in my life.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:17:25pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I said it when he was nominated for AG but Sessions really does have the potential to be the most deplorable member of this administration doe to his bigotry and sheer ignorance.

Well, it is certainly a competition between him and Steve Miller, Steve Bannon, Betsy DeVos, Dr. Ben Carson, Sean Spicer, … .

My brother-in-law noted to me we’re in real trouble if the most competent person in the administration has the nickname “mad dog.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:18:08pm

I read the headline. I read the article. I read the key points of both to Mrs. Fish. We just stared at each other. Then she went and poured the wine and handed me a tall glass. Yup. It’s like that.

Evening Lizardim.

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whitebeach  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:18:37pm

re: #46 Romantic Heretic

Thinking of Mick Mannock, the top scoring British ace of WWI.

He was blind in one eye, so he memorized the chart to pass the vision exam.

Knocked down 73 German aircraft.

And 51 British aircraft.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:20:02pm

re: #66 whitebeach

And 51 British aircraft.

Yeah, but he was a net positive, so all things considered, they’ll keep him.///

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451_Montag  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:21:35pm

re: #66 whitebeach

And 51 British aircraft.

While saying “Sorry, sorry, my fault, sorry, excuse me”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:22:01pm

re: #46 Romantic Heretic

Thinking of Mick Mannock, the top scoring British ace of WWI.

He was blind in one eye, so he memorized the chart to pass the vision exam.

Knocked down 73 German aircraft.

# 10 of his 5 rules for aerial combat kind of stands out:

10. Pilots must practice judging distances in flight as these are very deceptive

Especially if your vision is monocular.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:23:19pm

bbc.com

Canadian police have arrested 104 men in connection with a child prostitution ring in and around the Toronto area. (more at the BBC)

It was a two part issue: The York, Ontario police did a sting looking for men seeking underage girls. Anyone who broke off contact when the honeypot told them she was underage was ignored by the police.

The other half was freeing eighty-five underage girls from pimps. About half would not testify.

The investigation took four years.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:23:39pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve stopped marveling at how much slack the Right cuts Trump. When he said he could shoot somebody and not lose any supporters, and he didn’t lose any supporters, it was clear that it’s far, far beyond reason. They love the IDEA of him, and they love it SO MUCH, and SO INTENSELY, that even his continuing failure to live up to his own promises means nothing to them as long as he SAYS he’s living up to them.

Honestly, it’s the most frightening mass psychosis I’ve seen in my life.

This is a party that continues to venerate the name of an actor who basically spent 8 years treating the presidency as a film role, playing up the image of him rather than the reality that has become clear to virtually everybody who has looked beneath the surface.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:26:44pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:28:48pm

re: #72 Anymouse

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Dem response should be “Well, since the conservative estimate of the wall’s cost is in the tens of billions…”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:29:46pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

This is a party that continues to venerate the name of an actor who basically spent 8 years treating the presidency as a film role, playing up the image of him rather than the reality that has become clear to virtually everybody who has looked beneath the surface.

Say what you will about Reagan, he could at least READ A DAMN SPEECH!

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:30:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:30:54pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Isn’t this called extortion?

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:31:11pm

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

It doesn’t matter that crime has fallen dramatically in NYC and continues to do so, and that it’s not even in the top 20 most dangerous cities. It’s New York City, and it’s full of Those People, and so it MUST BE an urban hellhole of crime, poverty, and despair where you get shot going out for a loaf of bread.

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Are those quotes that Heath cites from an actual DoJ document, or is this some paraphrase (the original Tweet doesn’t make it clear)? If the former, it’s pretty awful: that quote reads like something off a right-wing blog rather than an official government publication.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:32:09pm

Nope

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nines09  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:32:16pm

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:32:30pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t this called extortion?

I think bribery is what he’s going for. Either way.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:32:35pm

Drug Maker Asked Arkansas Not to Use It’s Drugs in Executions (goes to McClatchy)

This article reads like the derp my state got involved in (illegally diverting tax money to a company in India to buy samples of drugs - the samples were the drugs purchased for executions, but UPS India tipped off the DEA about a mismarked drug shipment and the DEA seized the drugs)

A drugmaker asked Arkansas officials not to purchase its products for executions months before the state accepted a third-party “donation” of potassium chloride as one of three drugs to use in lethal injections, according to letters obtained by The Associated Press.

Fresenius Kabi USA wrote to Department of Correction Director Wendy Kelley and other officials last July saying the company was aware Arkansas wanted to buy drugs to carry out executions and asking the state not to violate contracts between Fresenius and its distributors that forbid the distributors from selling the drugmaker’s products for use in capital punishment.

Fresenius has since identified itself as the possible maker of the Arkansas’ supply of potassium chloride — which Kelley recently testified she obtained by driving to an undisclosed location to meet an unnamed distributor, who when told about the billing process chose to “donate” it rather than create a record of the sale.

(more at the link)

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:34:15pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t this called extortion?

Not in this case … it would be the sausage-making part of politics you don’t want to see.

It’s just obscene because in exchange for a monument to racism the administration offers to fund healthcare.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:36:08pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:37:00pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:37:36pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:38:50pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

DOJ reply: “Alternate Facts.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:40:25pm

re: #77 Jay C

Are those quotes that Heath cites from an actual DoJ document, or is this some paraphrase (the original Tweet doesn’t make it clear)? If the former, it’s pretty awful: that quote reads like something off a right-wing blog rather than an official government publication.

That’s from the actual statement from the DOJ.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:40:44pm

re: #86 thedopefishlives

DOJ reply: “Alternate Facts.”

Or: Too bad, liberal snowflakes, there’s a new sheriff in town.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:41:45pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s from the actual statement from the DOJ.

Oy gevalt…..!

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:42:44pm

re: #88 Anymouse

Or: Too bad, liberal snowflakes, there’s a new sheriff in town.

Yeah, Sheriff Joe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:42:59pm

re: #88 Anymouse

Or: Too bad, liberal snowflakes, there’s a new sheriff in town.

“And he don’t hold with no ‘facts’ and ‘statistics’, neither.”

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:43:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:46:08pm

re: #89 Jay C

Oy gevalt…..!

Of course, the other thing is Chicago, which has had a big rise in gun murders, but which still isn’t even close to the most dangerous city in the Midwest, let alone the country as a whole.

But, you know, it’s Chicago, so, obviously, yet another urban hellscape with hot and cold running drivebys and gangs of Those People terrorizing the good white people who live there.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:46:48pm

mcclatchydc.com (Democratic FCC Commissioner blasts decision to soften regulations on Internet providers and other services)

This whole Internet pricing thing is troubling to me. Aside from raising prices on the few businesses here that rely on Internet service (such as my bank, which would get passed on to me), depending on how it goes it could price me off the Internet entirely.

I’ll write a “goodbye cruel world” post here if I have to end my Internet service. In the meantime I have already written CenturyLink (my provider) to note that I will be forced to end my service if it goes up.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:47:38pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

Hell, for a long time, Gary, Indiana, a much more proportionally white city, was the murder capital of the world, not Chicago.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:49:22pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course, the other thing is Chicago, which has had a big rise in gun murders, but which still isn’t even close to the most dangerous city in the Midwest, let alone the country as a whole.

But, you know, it’s Chicago, so, obviously, yet another urban hellscape with hot and cold running drivebys and gangs of Those People terrorizing the good white people who live there.

That’s why my seventy-six year-old mother is terrified of going out alone in Chicago. She practically needs a machete, a gun, and a club to get across the street to the grocery store.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:49:54pm

Trump’s lawyers should know better. They’ve completely gutted the meaning of the First Amendment to come up with their bullshit claim and interpretation.

I’m not going to be nearly as diplomatic as Professor Tribe.

This isn’t just some novel interpretation.

It’s a dangerously insane interpretation that doesn’t even correspond to reality, starting with the fact that the 1A doesn’t even apply. None of the parties to this case are the government. Trump was seeking higher office and he incited the crowd to violence. Several in the crowd engaged in violence against protesters. Some in the crowd relied on Trump’s statements that he’d cover the costs of those who attack protesters.

That’s the quick/dirty fact pattern.

Trump has to live with the consequences of his actions. And that means dealing with yet another lawsuit.

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:54:08pm

re: #97 lawhawk

Yup. I hope that the judge laughs that argument right out of his or her courtroom.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:55:45pm

re: #92 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:57:09pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:58:05pm

Sylvan Esso - Die Young [OFFICIAL]

Middle Kids - Edge of Town (Live on The Current)

First heard both of these songs today. Kinda matched my mood for the past couple weeks.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:58:49pm

re: #101 Timothy Watson

Me, I’ve been in more of an REO Speedwagon mood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2017 • 3:59:50pm
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retired cynic  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:00:36pm

re: #102 thedopefishlives

Me, I’ve been in more of an REO Speedwagon mood.

My home town band, started on campus in my sophomore year. Heh. Danced to them with my brother at a local pub.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:00:37pm

memo to the yam:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:01:45pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Either that or she will mysteriously disappear before the hearing.

//

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:01:51pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, shit.

Diet drinks have basically been instrumental to keeping my weight loss permanent.

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:02:29pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably those windfarms off the coast from his Scottish golf course.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:03:00pm

re: #107 thedopefishlives

Well, shit.

Diet drinks have basically been instrumental to keeping my weight loss permanent.

Only option for type 1 diabetics like me.

Unless you expect me to drink water. Ha!

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:04:09pm

re: #109 Timothy Watson

Only option for type 1 diabetics like me.

Unless you expect me to drink water. Ha!

Well, and with one of my grandmothers suffering from dementia before she passed away, it already has me worried.

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:06:21pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

memo to the yam:

[Embedded content]

A very poorly written article. Par for the course for TV news.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:06:36pm

The sure way to get web hits and followers:

Nikki Bella and John Cena Got Naked to Celebrate This Achievement

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:06:52pm

re: #110 thedopefishlives

Well, and with one of my grandmothers suffering from dementia before she passed away, it already has me worried.

I’m pretty sure that “in moderation” is in there.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:07:15pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty sure that “in moderation” is in there.

Agh. Of course, I let myself take the bait. Usually I’m the one saying that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:09:55pm

and then there are newspapers who post stuff like this:

nope, it’s not five states…it’s six.

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Cheechako  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:10:29pm

re: #35 Anymouse

Now I’m feeling old. I just pulled a two-foot long white hair out of my head.

A white hair.

How did it grow so long before I noticed it was white?

I can’t be old. I still ride electric shopping carts across parking lots and in store aisles (to the embarrassment of my wife).

FIFY

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:11:10pm

Ouch

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:15:28pm

Huffington Post busy trying to throw the Democratic candidate for Omaha mayor (Heath Mello) under the bus.

huffingtonpost.com

Even though Heath Mello says he is not interested in legislating his personal views on abortion (and a mayor can’t do that anyway), that’s not good enough for some purity ponies.

Mello co-sponsored a bill in 2009 requiring women to be informed that they could see an ultrasound before having an abortion, a move that national groups appeared to be unaware of until just now.

That’s because they don’t pay attention to us. Funny how national women’s rights groups are only becoming aware of a bill that was debated eight years ago so they can oppose the Democratic candidate (and thus support the Republican incumbent).

After all, we’re only five Electoral Votes here, the Dems can win without supporting our Democrats at all. See last year’s election.

Moreover, his co-sponsored bill was the compromise to the super-majority Republican bill that would have made ultrasounds mandatory. The bill did not require a woman to view or pay for an ultrasound. It required a doctor inform a woman that an ultrasound was available.

Gaaa. Some comments from the article… .

Omaha, Nebraska
I live in Omaha and have watched Jean Stothert continually act in her own interests with no citizen engagement for 4 years. There are a hundred reasons I am supporting Heath Mello for Mayor. I refuse to reduce all the issues facing our city to only one issue. There are amazing things happening in this city and I can’t wait to see how Heath Mello will lead it.

Santa Clara University
A** P** I disagree with you, A**. There is NO ideal candidate available. There are only human beings to choose from…..and you are required to pick the one that best fits into YOUR ideal. The candidate that best can represent YOUR issues. And you must learn to compromise with yourself since there will never be the perfect candidate who agrees with you on ALL issues.

Omaha, Nebraska
Anyone who does not live in Omaha needs to keep their nose out of this conversation. Come, live here, its a great city and a great state. You might learn what it is like to be a liberal and a progressive where that is not the norm. Until then your opinions are irrelevant because you don’t get to vote for our mayor.

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:16:06pm

what is really disturbing from the media coverage is how all of these various assaults on our rights are essentially still lost in the fucking GOP framing…

Trump is busy trying to escalate wars in Syria, pick a fight with the North Koreans and using the MOAB in Afghanistan… and doing so without filling staff positions in State and the DoD and the NYT says its “Bold”. Not to mention using his daughter and Son-in-Law as envoys when they have bupkis for training/ethics/policy and its all to facilitate branding rights for the family and we get crickets from the governmental watchdogs who decried Clinton getting paid for her time in front of Corporations, this is just straight fucking grift and what do we hear… not a fucking thing.

Now we’re watching them wanting to silence his critics because… well they won, so everyone should just stfu… like the GOP was ever so respectful with the election of our last President…. and all we’ll get is some solemn white dudes with perfectly coiffed hair nodding sagely while we have attractive women parse each statement into some fucking “both sides” pretzel.

it seems that the only people that care are minorities, women and political junkies, everyone else just wants top be left alone to watch the bread and circuses… if these protests rallies weren’t so well attended, I would really fear for us all.

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retired cynic  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:17:21pm

re: #119 piratedan

Koreans? Otherwise, I’m wit’cha!

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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:18:35pm

re: #116 Cheechako

I can’t be old. I still ride electric shopping carts across parking lots and in store aisles (to the embarrassment of my wife).

FIFY

Nope. Regular shopping carts. I also turn cartwheels in my backyard occasionally (assuming I don’t come down with the measles here).

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:22:19pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:22:47pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:24:02pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart

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The NYPD should announce that they’re cutting any and all assistance to the Secret Service.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:24:20pm

At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans passed a bill that would make it illegal to criticize Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:24:42pm
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jaunte  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:25:34pm
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Anymouse  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:25:52pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

That would be the “Trump Injustice Department,” Mr. Johnson.

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:26:43pm

re: #120 retired cynic

fixed! ty for the catch

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:39:17pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yet another study that’s just factually bullshit…..

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:43:47pm

re: #107 thedopefishlives

I’ve mostly given up drinking sodas, and predominantly drink flavored seltzers - get the fizz and flavor, no calories or other crap added.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:46:28pm

That’s a hell of a place to pitch a tent.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:49:03pm

re: #131 lawhawk

I’ve mostly given up drinking sodas, and predominantly drink flavored seltzers - get the fizz and flavor, no calories or other crap added.

I’m a La Croix fiend. I bought four cases at Costco just the other day.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:49:36pm

re: #127 jaunte

What is so striking, besides the tone-deafness, is the forcing of his faux-capitalism rhetoric into the answer to the lady.

Bottom line: we live… we die.

In between, because we are clever primates, we can and have invented tools to push the latter event back a few years later than our ancestors.

And it’s not really much more complicated than that.

The question is, are we willing to make these life-saving tools available to everybody, or, are we going to use them to created strata in our society?

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stpaulbear  Apr 21, 2017 • 4:57:37pm
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jaunte  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:00:27pm

re: #134 freetoken

The old Calvinist thinking: material success and “skills” in a profitable line of work is a sign that you are one of the Elect, favored by God. If not you have to settle for what little life you’re granted.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:00:48pm

re: #135 stpaulbear

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I was JUST GONNA post that!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:03:06pm

The feckless goober in the White House is threatening to destroy his own party to build his stupid wall. Doesn’t look like Congress much gives a shit.

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:04:18pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

I was JUST GONNA post that!

So what do you think that would go for in the Bay Area?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:05:42pm

re: #127 jaunte

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Wow. Zero respect for the service industry. And a dick.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:08:33pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

So what do you think that would go for in the Bay Area?

5000 sqft? 5.5 acres? The mind boggles.

Lemme put it this way - my house is a 1600 sq ft postwar tract house. It’s on a HUGE 1/3 acre lot. Appraised at $1.4 Million, when we refi’d earlier this year.

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stpaulbear  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:10:09pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

I was JUST GONNA post that!

I suppose I shouldn’t have been that surprised that someone so into junkie chic would come from a background like that.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:10:19pm
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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:10:26pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:12:57pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

I assume the $1.4 billion is just the finders fee for Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:14:47pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:21:09pm

re: #143 FormerDirtDart

Wish we could help. 3 cats 3 lizards = full house

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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:22:00pm

Pig

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Skip Intro  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:24:04pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

Pig

[Embedded content]

I’m a little surprised he doesn’t make her take the bus.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:27:21pm

For background: Houston County AL, where Sen Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third for years maintained an office, consistently has a higher murder rate than New York City.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:28:20pm

re: #150 Decatur Deb

For background, Houston County AL, where Sen Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third for years maintained an office, consistently has a higher murder rate than New York City.

Yeah, but that’s white people so obviously it doesn’t count.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:33:33pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:39:47pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:40:34pm

re: #151 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but that’s white people so obviously it doesn’t count.

We don’t have the NY mix, but this isn’t a lily-white area. We have a (horrible) taqueria and some really good soul food.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:40:46pm

Bob Lefsetz, whose posts occasional grace Barry Ritholtz blog The Big Picture, has written his take on L’affire O’Reilly. :

Credit the younger Murdoch generation, who are going to inherit the monolith, they saw that O’Reilly was tainting the brand, and today the brand is everything.

The brand supersedes truth, you believe in the corporation because the individuals have become shills for it. Whether it be musicians selling out to the highest bidder or workers afraid to unionize for fear they’ll lose their jobs.

Everybody in America is afraid, except for blowhards like O’Reilly, who believe if they just yell loud enough they can win.

Just because you raise your voice that does not mean you are right.

Just because Mercer and the Kochs fund right wing causes that does not mean Soros is just as bad. No, that’s false equivalency. Is the left wing flawed? OF COURSE! But it’s absent the sex and financial scandals, at least to the degree of the right, because if you act this way on the left you’re excommunicated, if you act this way on the right you’re embraced.

But maybe no longer.

O’Reilly is a footnote. He’s already in the rearview mirror. No one’s gonna give him a platform. Because it’s one thing to spew hate, it’s another to live the hate, to be a sexual harasser, speech is cheap, actions have costs.

So, so long Bill O’Reilly. You outlived your era, the internet and the media revealed your heinous behavior, you can’t hide the facts in today’s world.

You’re the poster boy for everything that’s wrong with this country. And now you’ve been sidelined.

Will you admit your fault? America loves a repenter, embraces him or her with open arms.

But that would require you to take a long hard look in the mirror, see that you’re part of the problem as opposed to the solution.

We’re all in it together folks. The sooner we can all agree on the same facts and come to conclusions that truly benefit us all, or at least the majority, the better.

But no, we live in a world of chaos, where those who do the work every day are eliminated from the equation and having brains and being fair are faults, not attributes.

The “New York Times” has the most boots on the ground. It bends over backward to be fair, even if it occasionally fails, hell, it even has a public editor looking out for the reader, but in a world where ignorance is king, where those with power want to keep it, the uninformed are kept that way, through subterfuge and bread and circuses.

But not today. Today the “Times” brought O’Reilly down.

Chalk one up for the good guys.

Lefsetz has had a spot on my RSS feed for a few months now.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:48:12pm

And there we were, thinking moisture farming was just for places like Tatooine and Arrakis, or Peru if you prefer closer to home examples…

“…While similar methods like atmospheric water generators already exist, the new project works in drier climates and uses less energy….”

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Dave In Austin  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:50:09pm

Bosch S3 starts today on Amazon P.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:50:51pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Things like this are why software engineers and architects spend so much time working on multiple layers of abstraction. It seems like engineering overkill, but for projects that use open-source libraries, it could cease to exist at a moment’s notice.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:51:41pm

Happy Friday everybody. Anyone stepping out in wee hours to see the meteor shower? 5am so morning really here.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:51:55pm

re: #156 FormerDirtDart

I’m holding out for my stillsuit, done in desert fashion.

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HypnoToad  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:52:08pm

Went and saw the Studio Ghibli animation, “Your Name” this afternoon.
Excellent, gorgeously animated film, highly recommended. Not for younger kids, they’ll be confused by the somewhat slow to develop plot.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:52:15pm

re: #154 Decatur Deb

We don’t have the NY mix, but this isn’t a lily-white area. We have a (horrible) taqueria and some really good soul food.

Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply your area is as white as some of the communities I’ve lived in, for example. Just that the contrast in stereotypes gives them an excuse to dismiss the higher murder rate.

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while(1) worries++;  Apr 21, 2017 • 5:53:04pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

PEAR has been mostly replaced by Composer.

Unfortunately, it seems that MDB2 is unmaintained.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2017 • 6:01:14pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2017 • 6:02:29pm

re: #156 FormerDirtDart

And there we were, thinking moisture farming was just for places like Tatooine and Arrakis, or Peru if you prefer closer to home examples…

[Embedded content]

Can Replicators be far behind??

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gocart mozart  Apr 21, 2017 • 6:48:37pm

Our problem is not Trump Derangement Syndrome; our problem is Deranged Trump Self-Delusion. This is the habit of willfully substituting, as a motive for Trump’s latest action, a conventional political or geostrategic ambition, rather than recognizing the action as the daily spasm of narcissistic gratification and episodic vanity that it truly is.

Excellent article/read the whole thing.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 21, 2017 • 9:00:02pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I said it when he was nominated for AG but Sessions really does have the potential to be the most deplorable member of this administration doe to his bigotry and sheer ignorance.

It’s like somebody appointed The 1930’s as AG. The guy would be an utter fucking joke, if he wasn’t evil. Or, perhaps he’s both….

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wheat-dogg  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:55:03am

re: #152 Charles Johnson

And here my biggest website challenge was remembering to reload my header image after updating my WP theme. I admire your coding skills, Charles.


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