Alex Jones Is Helping Stephen Colbert Re-Find His Comedy Groove, and It’s a Beautiful Thing

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If you’re like me, you’ve been a little disappointed with the new incarnation of Stephen Colbert on The Late Show. Don’t get me wrong, he’s always funny, but the fire, well, it just hasn’t been at the same level as it used to be.

But now we can thank Alex Jones for one thing — he’s helping Stephen get his groove back. And it’s about time Alex Jones had a comedy virtuoso like Stephen Colbert give him the severe mocking he so richly deserves.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:25:00pm

Staying a way from politics.

Now playing

Roxxette.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:31:21pm

That was pretty fucking funny!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:36:39pm

Most likely there’s this fake philanthropic racket to money launder etc. Only big names & bucks get to play.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:37:31pm

This kind of surrealist insanity must make comedians’ jobs harder.

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:39:28pm

Good to see someone making a joke of a joke.

Will Alex Jones be the same after this trial…will anyone care?

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:42:13pm
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:44:35pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:46:40pm

Good. It’s time to stop ignoring these people. We need to get tough with them. Conspira-liars are the scum of the Earth, whether it’s brutalizing bereaved Sandy Hook parents or calling a great man like Buzz Aldrin a liar or claiming that real scientists are tools of Satan. Hell, the demonic bastards even enjoy spreading preventable disease among children with their anti-vaxx lies. For they enjoy being scum; the less justified the claim and the more innocent the victim, the better they like it.
The March for Science is another indication of this new willingness to fight back, this new militancy. People who support the scientific enterprise have been reluctant to answer the slanderers and snake oil peddlers directly, for fear of “politicizing” the subject. Well, that train has long since left the station, ever since the liars, deniers, and superstitionists politicized science with their profit-driven lies and moronic superstitions. The March is a runaway success, with huge turnouts in places that have rarely seen an Earth day demonstration. There were at least a couple of hundred people at the one in Lubbock, for example, thousands in Fort Worth and Dallas. lubbockonline.com

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:46:52pm

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

“You see, that’s *flat*!”

-people b_sharp argue with for fun on Twitter

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:48:21pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Lens curvature!

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b_sharp  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:53:10pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

“You see, that’s *flat*!”

-people b_sharp argue with for fun on Twitter

Everyone needs a hobby.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:01:11pm

And…….Kellyanne is back. On Ducklips’ (h/t VB) show. Ducklips is performing as described in the screenshot. (shows AC, but KAC is next)

“28 executives orders to date.That’s more than any president in half a century.” - @KellyannePolls

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:01:46pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

And yet they whined about Obama’s executive orders…

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retired cynic  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:02:47pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

You can’t make me play that. I won’t.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:04:31pm

“28 executives orders to date.That’s more than any president in half a century.”

We salute our Stakhanovite president for his rapid growth in signing productivity and securing significant increase of Trump family incomes.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:11:10pm

“…The research team expects that 3D quantum liquid crystals might advance the field of designing and creating more efficient computer chips by helping computer scientists exploit the direction that electrons spin. The 3D quantum liquid crystal discovery could also advance us along the road toward building quantum computers, which will decrypt codes and make other calculations at much higher speeds thanks to the quantum nature of particles.”

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prairiefire  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:13:13pm

re: #16 jaunte

I have enough difficulties with the current known matter.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:14:38pm

re: #17 prairiefire

Just shut down the universe and restart.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:16:51pm
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Interesting Times  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:17:27pm

Ha - make sure you click to see both images full-size:

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prairiefire  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:19:03pm

Shout out to Edna Furber for “Dinner At Eight.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:19:53pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

An embedded systems developer. That’s some hard-core programming mojo there. Respect.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:20:18pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

Ha - make sure you click to see both images full-size:

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Reminder: that’s what the “Images” button in the blue bar is for.

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calochortus  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:21:02pm

re: #22 thedopefishlives

An embedded systems developer. That’s some hard-core programming mojo there. Respect.

But then, you wouldn’t have been nervous to see him on your flight, either.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:23:00pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:25:05pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

And yet they whined about Obama’s executive orders…

Yup.

And people are still fooled.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:31:11pm

Every time Jones slips out of the 5th dimension I’m reminded of how the BBC utterly destroyed him on live TV and I wonder why our media gives that ass pass after pass!

Alex Jones blasts at the BBC One Sunday Politics

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:33:29pm

I laughed out loud at this one. “Main stream meteors………….fake news. So sad.”
meteorshttps://

Facebook Post

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majii  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:34:51pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

“Ha - make sure you click to see both images full-size”

He’s putting it out there that if they are afraid when they see him on a flight they’re on, they shouldn’t be because he may have designed the software for the plane they’re both riding on!
Excellent sign, simply excellent!!!

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b_sharp  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:35:11pm

re: #18 jaunte

Just shut down the universe and restart.

Ctrl-Alt-Del

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:35:16pm

I yearn for Shannyn’s life sometimes.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:36:03pm

re: #30 b_sharp

Ctrl-Alt-Del

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b_sharp  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:37:32pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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My company name is Reboot.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:41:27pm
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majii  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:44:50pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon

“Every time Jones slips out of the 5th dimension I’m reminded of how the BBC utterly destroyed him on live TV and I wonder why our media gives that ass pass after pass!”

Jones was scheduled to appear on one of our major TV networks a couple years ago after his Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theory took off. I believe he was to appear on a Sunday morning program, but a few hours before his scheduled appearance, he bailed/cancelled. I remember reading that his excuse was something like he didn’t think he’d get treated “fairly” by the show’s host/by the network. I was searching for his cancelled appearance. Found it!
“Alex Jones pulls no-show for Texas invasion interview on ABC’s “This Week” — blames “dirty tricks” and says network is trying to destroy him “
salon.com

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:45:26pm

re: #34 jaunte

VP found it hard to resist petting the Koala as Mrs Pence and daughters Charlotte and Audrey look on.

I am suddenly hoping someone introduces the VP to some sloths, and his petting urge manifests itself.

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Jay C  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:48:02pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart

I am suddenly hoping someone introduces the VP to some sloths, and his petting urge manifests itself.

Probably the one thing that will get the little suckers to scuttle away at speed…

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:48:25pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart

I am suddenly hoping someone introduces the VP to some sloths, and his petting urge manifests itself.

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Interesting Times  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:50:26pm

Well, this is a sobering and disturbing read:

France elections: What makes Marine Le Pen far right?

So many takeaways to explain the current US dynamic, as well, especially the bizarre crossover in support between Bernie and trump - I can’t remember where I first heard it or who said it, but it was something to the effect of, “What trump voters want most of all is a racist welfare state.” And what does Le Pen promise?

However, in December she upped the ante by announcing that she would end free education for the children of undocumented immigrants, though this did not appear as a pledge in the party’s manifesto.

“If you come to our country, don’t expect to be taken care of, to be looked after, that your children will be educated without charge,” she said in a speech in Paris. And, more threateningly, “playtime is over”.

Treatment of immigrants in France is probably the standout, far-right policy of Marine Le Pen’s FN. And it is central to the party’s platform.

Jobs, welfare, housing, schools, or any area of public provision should go to French nationals before they get to “foreigners”.

Portraying herself as beyond the establishment, she has championed public services - for non-foreigners - and presented herself as a protector of workers and farmers in the face of “wild and anarchic globalisation”.

I’m…actually kind of terrified to think of how well an American politician would do running on a platform like that - “Single-payer healthcare, but for whites only.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:51:41pm
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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:52:02pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

“Single-payer healthcare, but for whites only.”

The national-socialist ethos.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 22, 2017 • 7:53:12pm

Another one

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:02:45pm

re: #42 Single-handed sailor

56, fuck. That’s way too young.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:08:38pm

re: #43 thedopefishlives

56, fuck. That’s way too young.

My age. Someone very recently said to me “It sucks getting old” I was still hurting from our recent loss here. Without a seconds hesitation I replied “Dying young is a tragedy, old a privilege.” Maybe I was a little harsh. But still… Too many too close too young. Tell ya what, for all of us on this side of the dateline tomorrow is Sunday. Go make something of it. Monday will not be there for everyone that is alive today.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:09:16pm

re: #42 Single-handed sailor

Another one

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The fuck.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:10:23pm
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majii  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:17:15pm

re: #43 thedopefishlives

“56, fuck. That’s way too young.”

I just left the TMZ site. TMZ is reporting that Moran had a hard time after appearing in “Happy Days” and “Joanie Loves Chaci,” which included not having very much money and a drinking problem. She and her husband had been kicked out of a trailer park in Indiana due to being unable to pay their rent on their trailer home. It is very sad to see someone who once shone so bright end up in such dire straits and die at the age of 56.

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prairiefire  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:27:40pm

re: #47 majii

She had quite a hard time. RIP

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:30:28pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

So what would be interesting is whether “foreigners” includes the overseas departments of France.

I suspect…yes…given existing policy about development and funding of those regions.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:35:06pm

Oh god. MY BRAIN HAS COBRA FANGS!

Next time I eat steak I may stab it shouting YOU’RE DEAD, I’M ALIVE!

I’m almost crying over here… OK that was funny :D

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whitebeach  Apr 22, 2017 • 8:46:02pm

Remember when we thought it sucked to have a president who invaded the wrong country for wholly false reasons and, in response to other crises, said things like “Heckuva job, Brownie” and “Is our children being educated”?

Good times.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:00:56pm
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retired cynic  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:01:51pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

The newest SC member is totally lacking in humility.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:02:39pm
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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:18:34pm

re: #53 retired cynic

The newest SC member is totally lacking in humility.

It’s going to be a hoot when he’s unable to find Social Security in the constitution.

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Interesting Times  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:19:15pm
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prairiefire  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:24:32pm

re: #56 Interesting Times

Sarah is not wondering where those hands have been? Burn the crocheted doily, Sarah.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:29:53pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:40:13pm

re: #58 William Lewis

I used to work in Minneapolis in the early 90’s so I was in the skyway system during my lunch hour nearly every weekday. It was pretty easy to find a loop where you could walk for a mile or so without having to cover any territory twice. It serves as a second story main street. There are lots of stores and restaurants that are primarily or exclusively accessed by the skyway. It was a great way to access the city when it was too hot or cold outside.

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:42:04pm

re: #59 stpaulbear

I used to work in Minneapolis in the early 90’s so I was in the skyway system during my lunch hour nearly every weekday. It was pretty easy to find a loop where you could walk for a mile or so without having to cover any territory twice. It serves as a second story main street. There are lots of stores and restaurants that are primarily or exclusively accessed by the skyway. It was a great way to access the city when it was too hot or cold outside.

I thought it was insanely cool when I encountered it. Encourages walking without getting endangered by traffic.

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Targetpractice  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:43:20pm

Seems somebody’s having deep regrets:

*coubullshitgh*

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:43:47pm

re: #59 stpaulbear

I used to work in Minneapolis in the early 90’s so I was in the skyway system during my lunch hour nearly every weekday. It was pretty easy to find a loop where you could walk for a mile or so without having to cover any territory twice. It serves as a second story main street. There are lots of stores and restaurants that are primarily or exclusively accessed by the skyway. It was a great way to access the city when it was too hot or cold outside.

You know the climate is inhospitable when they have to connect all the buildings with tunnels and tubes. Minneapolis is like a moon-base.

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majii  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:50:03pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

“Seems somebody’s having deep regrets:”

I just tweeted about this article, I was sure to include the hashtag, #ComeyTheRatfucker, because that is exactly who and what he is. He knew the FBI was investigating Trump at the same time it was investigating HRC’s emails, but he took it upon himself to only inform Congress that he was “reopening” HRC’s email investigation, which turned out to be a huge nothingburger, so yes, he’s a ratfucker and he ratfucked us, our nation, and the world. You can see how angry I am about this article because I’m forgetting that my mom always told me to act like a lady and watch what I say. But, with this, all bets are OFF.

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:50:55pm

re: #62 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

You know the climate is inhospitable when they have to connect all the buildings with tunnels and tubes. Minneapolis is like a moon-base.

Ha. It’s kind of like that. The only street that had any kind of sidewalk presence was Nicollet Ave. Then they put a Target store right in the middle of what had been a great block of small shops and wrecked that too.

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:53:57pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Seems somebody’s having deep regrets:

*coubullshitgh*

Maybe he can spill the beans on Trump and help get him removed from office. Yeah, right…

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Targetpractice  Apr 22, 2017 • 9:54:20pm

re: #63 majii

“Seems somebody’s having deep regrets:”

I just tweeted about this article, I was sure to include the hashtag, #ComeyTheRatfucker, because that is exactly who and what he is. He knew the FBI was investigating Trump at the same time it was investigating HRC’s emails, but he took it upon himself to only inform Congress that he was “reopening” HRC’s email investigation, which turned out to be a huge nothingburger, so yes, he’s a ratfucker and he ratfucked us, our nation, and the world. You can see how angry I am about this article because I’m forgetting that my mom always told me to act like a lady and watch what I say. But, with this, all bets are OFF.

Mar: “Oh, we don’t talk about ongoing investigations.”

Jul: “Well, since the investigation’s now over, allow me to expound at length about just how horrible a person Hillary Clinton is.”

Oct: “There’s no investigation into the Trump campaign.”

Nov: “We’ve got new emails! The investigation’s back on!”

Feb: “Yes, we’ve been running an investigation in one form or another into Trump since 2015, but we can’t talk about it.”

Apr: “Well, you know, we didn’t want to be seen as showing favoritism…”

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 10:06:22pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 10:11:37pm
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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 10:19:15pm

New babies, born earlier today:

Rescued pregnant Kitty Harlequin - Kitten Watch!

People try to help with the feral cats, especially if they are pregnant, but the truth is simply that cat populations are just too big.

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Targetpractice  Apr 22, 2017 • 10:47:20pm

Trump: “I’m gonna savage the fuck out of the federal budgets of numerous domestic agencies in order to afford boosting defense spending by $54 billion!”

Mattis: “Yeah, we’re gonna need some more…”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:43:41pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

Umm…isn’t the military already pretty big?

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Targetpractice  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:45:00pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Umm…isn’t the military already pretty big?

Haven’t you heard? We need to “rebuild” the military. Apparently the generals heard that and declared “Awesome, my wish list is about to be fulfilled!”

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Lani  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:53:31pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Haven’t you heard? We need to “rebuild” the military. Apparently the generals heard that and declared “Awesome, my wish list is about to be fulfilled!”

Defense contractors are salivating.

I’m sure there will be better pay and benefits for military personnel, too. /snark

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BeachDem  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:07:01am

re: #63 majii

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Timothy Watson  Apr 23, 2017 • 2:29:18am

re: #72 Targetpractice

Haven’t you heard? We need to “rebuild” the military. Apparently the generals heard that and declared “Awesome, my wish list is about to be fulfilled!”

The military is “depleted” but we had no problem creating an “armada” to send to the Korean peninsula.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 3:50:24am

re: #43 thedopefishlives

56, fuck. That’s way too young.

younger than me

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 3:52:08am

re: #75 Timothy Watson

The military is “depleted” but we had no problem creating an “armada” to send to somewhere in the general direction of the Korean peninsula.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:03:31am

re: #73 Lani

Defense contractors are salivating.

I’m sure there will be better pay and benefits for military personnel, too. /snark

The only thing that Trump has done in his first 100-or-so days that I can approve of is to propose an increase in funding for Veterans’ Affairs.

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lawhawk  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:44:38am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The military is “depleted” but we had no problem creating an “armada” to send to the Korean peninsula the general vicinity of Asia.

The US spends more than the next 8-10 nations on military spending combined.

That includes everyone from rivals like Russia and China as well as allies like Germany, UK, France, and India.

In other words, we’re spending several times the amount that our actual enemies, and the right wingers think this isn’t enough.

All that spending will be meaningless under Trump though. He’s likely to start a war with our ships and personnel in the wrong place at the wrong time, all because he’s completely fucked up the chain of command, ignores our intel, ignores the need to get daily briefings, and thinks all of this is normal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:47:31am

re: #79 lawhawk

The US spends more than the next 8-10 nations on military spending combined.

That includes everyone from rivals like Russia and China as well as allies like Germany, UK, France, and India.

Somebody pointed out that if Germany did spend an entire 2% of its GDP on military as Trump demands, it would become the sort of military power that everybody tried to prevent Germany from ever being again after WW2…

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John Hughes  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:56:32am

re: #18 jaunte

Just shut down the universe and restart.

“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”

— Douglas Adams

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Dave In Austin  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:57:08am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

younger than me

Met a guy yesterday at the local marina who is 56. He’s on the mend from a quad bypass…. I’m 62. Like I told him, my problem is my mind still me I’m 20.
So I eat like I’m 20. And attempt other thing like I’m still 20. Hence the chronic pain…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 4:58:12am

re: #82 Dave In Austin

Met a guy yesterday at the local marina who is 56. He’s on the mend from a quad bypass…. I’m 62. Like I told him, my problem is my mind still me I’m 20.
So I eat like I’m 20. And attempt other thing like I’m still 20. Hence the chronic pain…..

I seem to be lucky in that I have no chronic complaints, unlike a lot of people I know who are younger than me.

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lawhawk  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:00:20am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Currently, the US spends something like 3.3% of GDP on defense. Reducing the spending to 2% would free up…. hundreds of billions of dollars.

We spend more than $500 billion dollars a year, so that kind of reduction would enable a massive infrastructure push or any number of other priorities.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:00:53am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2 surgeries on my lower back in the 80s. I’m actually luckier than most as I haven’t had too many problems compared to some of the horror stories I’ve heard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:05:12am

re: #85 Dave In Austin

2 surgeries on my lower back in the 80s. I’m actually luckier than most as I haven’t had too many problems compared to some of the horror stories I’ve heard.

I am one fortunate SOB…I have not spent a night in a hospital as a patient, ever.

Girlfriend and a good friend, both younger than me, have chronic back and neck pains. Band mate has diabetes on his way towards kidney failure…I just try to keep healthy and knock on wood.

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jeffreyw  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:12:30am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:21:46am

Enabeler.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 23, 2017 • 5:49:30am

The French election is too close to call. Any two of the four main candidates could end up in the run-off; it could even end up being the communist vs. the fascist, both of whom are anti-EU.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:00:11am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only thing that Trump has done in his first 100-or-so days that I can approve of is to propose an increase in funding for Veterans’ Affairs.

The Veterans of Foreign Wars (disclosure, I am a member) gives a “yes and no” answer on that one:
vfw.org

“The VFW is pleased that President [Donald] Trump has lived up to his campaign promises to relieve our nation’s military from the budget ax called sequestration, sustain our all-volunteer force, and provide for the needs of our veterans, but more work lies ahead for this administration to rebuild trust and confidence in our nation’s veterans programs, as well as improve the readiness and morale of our military,” said Duffy, who leads the 1.7 million-member VFW and its Auxiliary. “Unfortunately, years of sequestration and short-sighted budget battles in Congress have left our service members without the resources and training it needs to protect our nation’s interests, and we’ve seen over and over again how penny-pinching in the budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs has left veterans waiting far too long for the health care and benefits they have rightfully earned.”

(more at the VFW)

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:01:31am
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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:04:54am

re: #91 Nyet

I’m not a lawyer, but my understanding of “international law” would be that Julian Assange would be extradited to Sweden to face the charges levelled against him in the warrant, not hiding in the basement of the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:06:02am

Interesting bot activity a few years ago. Apparently the bot master was a Holocaust denier.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:12:01am

I’m guessing conservatives aren’t going to do this (which is why they keep underfunding the VA). Moreover, if they go through with their government shutdown, that endangers my disability pay, making it much easier for me to do things like pay my bills and eat.

militarytimes.com

WASHINGTON — Veterans Affairs officials needs a 10 percent boost in funding next year to meet the medical and program needs on the department, according to a coalition of outside advocates.

The fiscal 2018 Independent Budget for VA — budget recommendations for the department compiled annually by researchers from the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Disabled American Veterans and Paralyzed Veterans of America — calls for an $8 billion boost in the department’s budget next year,

(more at Military Times)

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:16:58am

It would appear the Borussia Dortmund bus bombing in Germany was not done in the name of Islam as originally reported. It appears it was done in the name of capitalism.

bbc.com (more at the link):

Police in Germany have charged a man suspected of being behind an attack on the Borussia Dortmund team bus.

Rather than having links to radical Islamism, he was a market trader hoping to make money if the price of shares in the team fell, prosecutors say.

The suspect has been charged with attempted murder, triggering explosions and causing serious physical injury.

He has been identified only as Sergej W, and was staying in the team’s hotel overlooking the scene of the attack.

Two people needed medical help after three bombs exploded near the bus.

Spanish footballer Marc Bartra underwent wrist surgery and a police officer was treated for shock.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:26:20am

re: #94 Anymouse

Veterans Affairs officials needs a 10 percent boost in funding next year to meet the medical and program needs on the department, according to a coalition of outside advocates.

and I believe that Trump is only proposing a 6% increase…but we cannot expect coal miners and single moms to pay any more.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:32:34am

FOX News interviewed a Nebraska farmer about the Keystone XL Pipeline project. FOX’s Sandra Smith tried to corner the farmer’s opposition to the pipeline project as NIMBYism and paint it as American energy independence.

The ranchers and farmers here who have consistently opposed the project know better, and this farmer was having none of that. He (politely) schooled Sandra Smith on the air, after which she cut him off when she threw a Gish Gallop at him.

rawstory.com (more at Raw Story):

In an interview with Sandra Smith from Fox News, a Nebraska farmer swatted down her contention that a Keystone XL pipeline President Donald Trump wants to revive will put America on the road to energy independence.

Nebraska farmer Art Tanderup farms outside of Neligh (population 1,599 recorded by the 2010 census) and would be affected by the pipeline.

Tanderup explained to Fox News viewers that Keystone XL would only travel through America, allowing Canadian Tar Sands to be exported from North America.

“But it’s going across America to be refined and exported, which is not for America’s use,” Tanderup explained. “If they do not mix some high-quality crude with this, the best they get is poor-grade diesel fuel, which we can’t even burn in this country.”

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:39:03am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and I believe that Trump is only proposing a 6% increase…but we cannot expect coal miners and single moms to pay any more.

Veterans want more money? Dollar-for-dollar matching to build Teh Wall!!11!!!

I’ve seen conservative “concern” for military personnel and veterans all my adult life. (That might be why I’ve consistently voted for Democrats.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:41:53am

re: #98 Anymouse

Veterans want more money? Dollar-for-dollar matching to build Teh Wall!!11!!!

I’ve seen conservative “concern” for military personnel and veterans all my adult life. (That might be why I’ve consistently voted for Democrats.)

I remember Ronald Reagan telling us that “you cannot solve social problems by throwing more money at them.”

But when it comes to military hardware and weapons systems, the more we spend, the “better” it is for our military. And a $90 hammer and a $40,000 coffee machine are signs that we care about our service people to give them the very best equipment…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:44:27am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember Ronald Reagan telling us that “you cannot solve social problems by throwing more money at them.”

But when it comes to military hardware and weapons systems, the more we spend, the “better” it is for our military. And a $90 hammer and a $40,000 coffee machine are signs that we care about our service people to give them the very best equipment…

That has always been my problem with the conservative economic approach. It also throws a wrench into Reagan’s other one “Government is the problem.” Of course, as you know, the government’s size under Reagan went up big time.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:47:53am

Donald Trump went to Walter Reed Army Hospital Saturday to present the Purple Heart to an Army sergeant seriously wounded in Afghanistan (he lost part of a leg).

Mr. Trump “congratulated” him for receiving the medal. (To be clear, no one congratulates someone for the Purple Heart. At least, no one who knows what he is doing in office.)

mediaite.com

(with video of President Trump presenting the medal)

Had my family been “congratulated” for my father being killed and therefore being awarded the Purple Heart, I would have needed to be restrained from throwing something.

President Donald Trump congratulated an army sergeant for being wounded in Afghanistan during his visit to the Walter Reed Medical Center on Saturday. Except, of course, that it’s not appropriate to “congratulate” a recipient of this type of award for almost getting killed.

Sgt. 1st Class Alvaro Barrientos was wounded alongside three other soldiers last month after an Afghan soldier attacked them at a base in the Helmland province. Barrientos’ injuries required the amputation of his right leg below the knee.

The president and First Lady Melania Trump met with Barrientos and his wife at the hospital, and they had a small ceremony as Trump presented the sergeant with the Purple Heart. The medal is the longstanding award bestowed upon those wounded or killed in their service to the U.S. Military.

(more at Mediaite)

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:51:36am

Customer service in action.

My wife recently bought something from an E-bay seller in Canada. She got a survey from E-bay asking about her satisfaction about the transaction - in Polish.

She double-checked to ensure this wasn’t some sort of phishing scam (it really did come from E-bay).

The questionnaire didn’t ask for any personal information from my wife - but she did respond in the comments section asking “why did you send this in Polish?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:57:54am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

That has always been my problem with the conservative economic approach. It also throws a wrench into Reagan’s other one “Government is the problem.” Of course, as you know, the government’s size under Reagan went up big time.

I still picture the commander of the USS Ronald Reagan, which was sent to Fukushima to offer tsunami aid, presenting his credentials and stating “We are from the US government and we are here to help you!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 6:59:37am

re: #102 Anymouse

Customer service in action.

My wife recently bought something from an E-bay seller in Canada. She got a survey from E-bay asking about her satisfaction about the transaction - in Polish.

She double-checked to ensure this wasn’t some sort of phishing scam (it really did come from E-bay).

The questionnaire didn’t ask for any personal information from my wife - but she did respond in the comments section asking “why did you send this in Polish?”

Did some or any part of the transaction involve Poland? Perhaps it was routed through a Polish server or somebody just clicked the wrong button.

That happened to a friend here, who used her US card to order something in Germany and had it sent to her parents’ address instead of her German address.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:01:16am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still picture the commander of the USS Ronald Reagan, which was sent to Fukushima to offer tsunami aid, presenting his credentials and stating “We are from the US government and we are here to help you!”

Ha! Yeah Reagan had a lot of stupid witticisms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:02:45am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Ha! Yeah Reagan had a lot of stupid witticisms.

They had the same appeal back then as Trump’s inflated, subjective, fact-free (or alternatively factual) statements do today.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:02:48am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did some or any part of the transaction involve Poland? Perhaps it was routed through a Polish server or somebody just clicked the wrong button.

That happened to a friend here, who used her US card to order something in Germany and had it sent to her parents’ address instead of her German address.

No the transaction didn’t appear to involve Poland, just the USA and Canada.

She says she responded to the E-bay survey on E-bay’s own Website. She noted that there were a number of languages in a drop-down menu to choose from (including English), but no matter which language she picked it would default to Polish instead (the drop down menu didn’t work).

My wife can read elementary Polish, so she could get through the survey.

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Teukka  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:03:52am

re: #107 Anymouse

No the transaction didn’t appear to involve Poland, just the USA and Canada.

She says she responded to the E-bay survey on E-bay’s own Website. She noted that there were a number of languages in a drop-down menu to choose from (including English), but no matter which language she picked it would default to Polish instead (the drop down menu didn’t work).

My wife can read elementary Polish, so she could get through the survey.

Someone messing up a Perl script (.pl)?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:04:11am

re: #107 Anymouse

No the transaction didn’t appear to involve Poland, just the USA and Canada.

She says she responded to the E-bay survey on E-bay’s own Website. She noted that there were a number of languages in a drop-down menu to choose from (including English), but no matter which language she picked it would default to Polish instead (the drop down menu didn’t work).

My wife can read elementary Polish, so she could get through the survey.

I am guessing that a Polish server or provider (or hacker) was involved.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:05:32am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They had the same appeal back then as Trump’s inflated, subjective, fact-free (or alternatively factual) statements do today.

Which is exactly why I say despite what Reagan’s admirers who hate Trump say otherwise, the old man had a lot more in common with Trump than they’ll admit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:07:17am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Which is exactly why I say despite what Reagan’s admirers who hate Trump say otherwise, the old man had a lot more in common with Trump than they’ll admit.

He appealed to many of the same constituents and the same mentality, but at least he had some sort of record of public service to refer to.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:10:27am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He appealed to many of the same constituents and the same mentality, but at least he had some sort of record of public service to refer to.

Yeah that’s definitely true. I just think Reagan did appeal to the lowest common denominator with his base.

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:13:25am

re: #97 Anymouse

Can’t burn in the country yet. Have some faith. I’m sure Trump will soon allow using the dirtiest fuels ever made because they’ll be good for the economy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:14:17am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s definitely true. I just think Reagan did appeal to the lowest common denominator with his base.

But at least in doing so, he appealed to people’s ideals and aspirations. I see Trump more as someone who appeals to their spite and cussedness.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:26:11am

re: #95 Anymouse

It would appear the Borussia Dortmund bus bombing in Germany was not done in the name of Islam as originally reported. It appears it was done in the name of capitalism.

bbc.com (more at the link):

I’ve been reading about this case - it’s almost Scooby-Doo cartoon villainy, like dressing up as a ghost and haunting the amusement park until the customers stay away and it goes bankrupt.

Truly bizarre.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:29:54am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been reading about this case - it’s almost Scooby-Doo cartoon villainy, like dressing up as a ghost and haunting the amusement park until the customers stay away and it goes bankrupt.

Truly bizarre.

As someone else pointed out, rather inspired by “The Taking of Pelham 123”

And it should remind us as in almost any case of malfeasance, to FOLLOW THE MONEY,

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:39:04am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As someone else pointed out, rather inspired by “The Taking of Pelham 123”

And it should remind us as in almost any case of malfeasance, to FOLLOW THE MONEY,

Yeah, I’d forgotten about that film (the original with Walter Matthau and Robert Shaw).

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Weaselone  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:39:07am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

That has always been my problem with the conservative economic approach. It also throws a wrench into Reagan’s other one “Government is the problem.” Of course, as you know, the government’s size under Reagan went up big time.

I’ve been having this arguments for decades. They always indicate that the military is in need of more cash because it’s depleted, being weakened, or because it can’t keep pace with advancements being made by our enemies.

I point out that it gets about the same amount as the next 8 militaries combined and that’s not including military related expenses that fall under the purview of other departments like say the money the DOE spends on nukes. If our military power is insufficient, it’s not because of lack of cash, it’s because of what we spend it on and overpaying for what we get. You know, like 1 trillion+ to develop the F-35, or the 100s of billions developing the Zumwalt Destroyer that actually packs less of a punch and is more vulnerable to air attack than what it was supposed to replace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:47:25am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’d forgotten about that film (the original with Walter Matthau and Robert Shaw).

I only saw the Denzel Washington/John Travolta remake

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:53:38am

Morning.

Have I ever said how much I find Reince Priebus a complete political slime ball?

Well he is.

And he can excuse Donny Trump with the best of them. (MTP this morning)

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bratwurst  Apr 23, 2017 • 7:54:10am
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Jay C  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:05:28am

re: #121 bratwurst

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And you just KNOW, that whatever the results of the French election are going to be, Trump will be sure to tweet some bullshit making it all about HIM…..

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:07:27am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I only saw the Denzel Washington/John Travolta remake

The original is very, very good. Solid performances throughout; one of the 70s best crime films, at least for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:12:07am

re: #121 bratwurst

Very interesting election currently taking place in France.

He knows that he likes LePen and wants to see her win

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Jenner7  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:14:09am

Perez and Bernie were in SLC yesterday and it’s clear what kind of Bernie fans he has: They booed Perez when he was introduced, and when Perez gloated about Jason Chaffetz early exit.

Bernie royally fucked up my party. I don’t think 2018 or 2020 will be good for Democrats.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:16:04am

In an obscure media, allegedly a high level military editorial… Is China turning on this issue? It’s clearly in their interest, especially in the face of a madman in charge here

“China has a bottom line that it will protect at all costs, that is, the security and stability of northeast China… If the bottom line is touched, China will employ all means available including the military means to strike back. By that time, it is not an issue of discussion whether China acquiesces in the US’ blows, but the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will launch attacks to DPRK nuclear facilities on its own.”

Ht Crooks And Liars, originating link
whotrades.com

And this…

With China’s help, it is not dangerous for DPRK to abandon nuclear weapons and open up
…The DPRK even envisages that some countries will “pay for” its nuclear deterrence to provide a number of opportunities for its economy development.

However, the two decades of reality has proved that this path won’t work, even if the DPRK holds on, launching several more nuclear tests and firing several more long- and medium-range missiles.

Washington D.C. won’t fear Pyongyang because of this. If the DPRK continues its outrageous nuclear missile tests, the likelihood of the US’ attacking the DPRK will surge. By that time, the survival of the Pyongyang regime may be a problem.

It has been inevitable for Pyongyang to stop its nuclear missile activities. The DPRK seeks to confront with the United Nations Security Council for a long time with its weak national strength, which is certainly an unattainable utopia…

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:20:05am

re: #126 Unshaken Defiance

I’m not a big fan of Zero Hedge (the writer of that article), but this line in the article is noteworty (buried way down the text):

It is worth noting is that shortly after publication, the article seems to have been retracted without explanation, the URL now returning a “404” error. However not before the original article was cached on a webpage owned by China Military, courtesy of google.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:25:25am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:28:01am

re: #125 Jenner7

Perez and Bernie were in SLC yesterday and it’s clear what kind of Bernie fans he has: They booed Perez when he was introduced, and when Perez gloated about Jason Chaffetz early exit.

Bernie royally fucked up my party. I don’t think 2018 or 2020 will be good for Democrats.

I think 2018 and 2020 could still be good years for us but I definitely agree with you that Bernie fucked up the party by making it all about him in a party he’s too cowardly to actually join. The reason he won’t join seems to simple to me. He wants to distance himself from the Democrats when the tough gets going and he can maintain his “outsider” image- which is honestly bullshit anyhow. Sanders is on his fifth President in Washington, I’m sorry but he’s not the “outsider” he portrays himself as. If he is on the outside looking in, I’d suggest it’s because the man is inflexible politically.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:32:20am

re: #127 Anymouse

I don’t like them either hence my unsubtle dig at them. Superpower /regional power policy change sometimes starts as a trickle, trial balloons and editorials signaling the shifts. There are reports of Chinese military movements to the DPRK border. If correct- Ready to defend against us if we land? (An almost laughable option.) To staunch or assist refugees from the DPRK government falls or fails big? Showing some teeth to dear leader to encourage a lowering of threats against the USA and Japan?

A signal aimed at all of us? That’s my thought a hard core militant reminder whose backyard all this is happening in.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:32:54am

re: #121 bratwurst

Or this is how you describe being happy that a fascist bigot may win in France. Trump is surely rooting for Le Pen.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:33:29am

re: #128 darthstar

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I said back in a dead thread, Sessions is the 1930’s made flesh. He’s like a damned cartoon.

“Lawlessness! Neeegros run amok! Maryjawanna addicts! This world is no longer safe for the white man, and by God A’mighty, I shall use the powers given to me by the Pa-resident to stop it!!!”

(Sessions jumps into an old timey car)

“To the Department of Justice, and quickly!” *aooga*

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:34:35am

As bad as I found the Bush administration, at least they didn’t cheer on the Eurofascists that Putin backed in Europe.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:34:44am

re: #125 Jenner7

Perez and Bernie were in SLC yesterday and it’s clear what kind of Bernie fans he has: They booed Perez when he was introduced, and when Perez gloated about Jason Chaffetz early exit.

Bernie royally fucked up my party. I don’t think 2018 or 2020 will be good for Democrats.

So why is the Democratic leadership so deferential towards Senator Sanders? What are Democrats getting from coddling him versus just letting him do his thing without their sanction? He needs to be called out for his anti-Democratic party agitation. This is not helping our side.

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Jenner7  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:36:26am

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

Because he’s popular.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:39:15am

re: #135 Jenner7

Because he’s popular.

Yep. And I don’t really see that changing between now and 2018/20. Honestly, I’d be all for letting Bernie contribute if he actually wanted to join the party and stopped with the bs purity tests that he gives for some candidates i.e. Ossoff in GA-6 and denies for others i.e. Mello in Nebraska. The goal should be to work for the election of Democrats especially in areas like GA-6 and Omaha that have historically been more friendly to Republicans. If Bernie can’t get behind that, then I want him to be called out for it and I want his supporters to find out that he’s the typical politician that he rails against.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:39:45am

American Airlines suspended a worker after an alleged confrontation in which a woman was hit in the face.
huffingtonpost.com

In another tense incident on a U.S. plane, an American Airlines employee was captured on video challenging a passenger to “c’mon, hit me” during a showdown on a flight from San Francisco.

American Airlines issued a statement soon after flight 591 landed at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport Friday, confirming that it was investigating the incident that allegedly happened after a stroller struck a mother in the face. American said it was “deeply sorry” and that the worker has been “removed from duty.”

Passenger Surain Adyanthaya filmed the below video, which begins with a woman seen in the front of the plane, crying while holding a baby. Adyanthaya said on Facebook that the stroller had struck the woman as a flight attendant roughly yanked it away from her while people were boarding. Another traveler can be heard saying in the video, “He smacked her in the face with the stroller.”

(more at the link with video)

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:40:00am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

As bad as I found the Bush administration, at least they didn’t cheer on the Eurofascists that Putin backed in Europe.

Speaking of the Russians…Le Pen is now into them for 14M Euros…

It’s going to suck for her when she loses.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:40:04am

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

So why is the Democratic leadership so deferential towards Senator Sanders? What are Democrats getting from coddling him versus just letting him do his thing without their sanction? He needs to be called out for his anti-Democratic party agitation. This is not helping our side.

Sanders does have some leverage having finished second in the primaries this past year and having built up a loyal following. It’s really regrettable that he doesn’t use that to good.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:40:32am

re: #138 darthstar

Speaking of the Russians…Le Pen is now into them for 14M Euros…

It’s going to suck for her when she loses.

Yep. She’s fucked either way IMO.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:40:52am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I don’t comment much on Dem/progressive internals. I’m just not equipped as a long time indy. But honestly the left got hammered by the perfect shit-storm the likes have not been seen in at least two generations.

From my seat, Bernie managed to be the one guy that could screw the party primary with the best ideas about what went wrong in the recession and since. The banks etc, his whole Occupy-esqe rant. But his aim was off 180 degrees. So, with all else, nearly a three million vote popular majority loss.

By about 70,000 votes the GOP got lotto lucky. Aliens landed and bought the winning ticket lucky. I will never understand it as long as I live.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:43:23am

See what comes of endlessly relitigating the election loss? The stupid, it flows…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:43:29am

re: #141 Unshaken Defiance

I don’t comment much of Dem/progressive internals. I’m just not equipped as a long time indy. But honestly the left got hammered by the perfect shit-storm the likes have not been seen in at least two generations.

From my seat, Bernie managed to be the one guy that could screw the party primary with the best ideas about what went wrong in the recession and since. The banks etc, his whole Occupy-esqe rant. But his aim was off 180 degrees. So, with all else, nearly a three million vote popular majority loss.

By about 70,000 votes the GOP got lotto lucky. Aliens landed and bought the winning ticket lucky. I will never understand it as long as I live.

I think Sanders does have some good ideas. My problem with him is that he only approaches things from the economic prism and his woe is the white working class act grows tired with me. Don’t get me wrong, we SHOULD and I actually think we do listen to those voters concerns but when those voters concerns include treating immigrants like shit, LGBT people like shit, etc, I’m not sympathetic. Sanders doesn’t have the courage to tell those people that they need to be prepared to use the government benefits they want with people of all backgrounds. You’re right about the EC too. That’s why it’s absurd to act like the Russian bullshit had no impact at all.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:47:22am

Basically I’m saying if voters in the Rust Belt want us to listen to them, they need to be prepared to hear the concerns of LBGT people, racial/religious minorities, women, etc. And I honestly don’t think Sanders helps a damn by shitting on so called liberal elites. If a person is well to do and happens to share our liberal values, that parson is an ally. And it’s not like Sanders himself lives on a meager income making it day to day.

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Interesting Times  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:49:54am

re: #142 darthstar

See what comes of endlessly relitigating the election loss? The stupid, it flows…

*sigh*

Just this goes to prove those who said HRC was a “bad candidate” are right, but for a different reason - she couldn’t appeal to enough of the crank voter contingent.

Is this ridiculously stupid, destructive, and unfair? Of course it is. But you work with the electorate you have, not the electorate you wish you had :/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:50:40am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Bernie, a former Socialist, has and had no realistic chance of being elected President in America today. Which is why I can support many of his ideas but could not support his candidacy.

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Jenner7  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:51:28am

“Who’s going to pay for the wall?!?”

“Mexico…at a later date…in some form!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:52:13am

re: #144 HappyWarrior
Agreed. Sanders is the wrong guy for the message anymore. Retire him until he can aim his rhetoric at the enemy not the allies. Air time is no substitute for effective. The rust belt won’t listen until they get hurt by Trump, which is mere months away.

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Interesting Times  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:53:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:54:28am

re: #148 Unshaken Defiance

Agreed. Sanders is the wrong guy for the message anymore. Retire him until he can aim his rhetoric at the enemy not the allies. Air time is no substitute for effective. The rust belt won’t listen until they get hurt by Trump, which is mere months away.

Hell, they will insist that they have been hurt by the Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:54:48am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bernie, a former Socialist, has and had no realistic chance of being elected President in America today. Which is why I can support many of his ideas but could not support his candidacy.

He still calls himself a Dem socialist. A lot of the ideas are great. The uncompromising attitude otoh helps no one including him achieve his goals.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:56:50am

re: #148 Unshaken Defiance

Agreed. Sanders is the wrong guy for the message anymore. Retire him until he can aim his rhetoric at the enemy not the allies. Air time is no substitute for effective. The rust belt won’t listen until they get hurt by Trump, which is mere months away.

In hindsight as much as I do like Tim Kaine a lot, maybe Sherrod Brown would have been the better VP pick but as I said, it’s not as if we don’t listen to or address those voters concerns, if they don’t want to listen, that I say is more on them than the Democrats.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 8:58:00am
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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:00:07am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:00:41am

re: #147 Jenner7

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“Who’s going to pay for the wall?!?”

“Mexico…at a later date…in some form!”

OMG, that is one of the WEAKEST things I’ve ever seen from a President!!!!!

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:01:09am

re: #153 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:03:39am

For pedants about language: wow, that escalated quickly …

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A Cranky One  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:07:14am

Presenting the Sashimi Tabernacle Choir:

“Sashimi Tabernacle Choir” art car by Richard Carter

Sashimi Tabernacle Choir

This is what happens when an engineer have waaaaaay too much free time (and apparently no spouse)…

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:11:58am

From the Tea Pain blog, a spate of casual racism the writer ran into whilst dining…
teapainusa.wordpress.com

You’ve heard of casual dress, casual dinin’, even casual sex. Now add: “Casual Racism.” Sadly it’s all around us to the point where we barely even notice it. Let Tea Pain tell you about his brush with casual racism today.

Tea Pain was eatin’ lunch at the Golden Chopstick Chinese Buffet, easily the swankiest place in Harrison, Arkansas. Tea Pain was mindin’ his own business, enjoyin’ his chop suey and cashew chicken when he overheard two ol’ boys in the next booth talkin’ about “that Obama.”

Here’s a snippet of the convo…

(more at the link)

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:18:14am
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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:19:30am

re: #125 Jenner7

Perez and Bernie were in SLC yesterday and it’s clear what kind of Bernie fans he has: They booed Perez when he was introduced, and when Perez gloated about Jason Chaffetz early exit.

Bernie royally fucked up my party. I don’t think 2018 or 2020 will be good for Democrats.

Did Bernie make any kind of comment to the effect of ‘Why don’t you assholes grow up?” when they booed Perez?
1/2///

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:25:34am

re: #161 stpaulbear

Did Bernie make any kind of comment to the effect of ‘Why don’t you assholes grow up?” when they booed Perez?
1/2///

I don’t get this “burn it all down” nonsense from both the left and the right. The overwhelming majority of Sanders’s supporters in the primaries voted for Hillary Clinton in the General Election.

A tiny minority of voters in three states gave us the raging Dumpster fire we have for an administration now.

Who are these people?

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:28:46am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:29:02am

re: #162 Anymouse

I don’t get this “burn it all down” nonsense from both the left and the right. The overwhelming majority of Sanders’s supporters in the primaries voted for Hillary Clinton in the General Election.

A tiny minority of voters in three states gave us the raging Dumpster fire we have for an administration now.

Who are these people?

Because these burn it all types want a revolution. We don’t need a revolution. And the people they want to help most get the most burned by revolution. Revolutions should be rare not a constant.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:30:19am

re: #163 Anymouse

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I’m campaigning for a woman seeking the delegate seat in my district and I think a woman will very likely be our nominee for my House district next year and a great candidate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:31:34am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Because these burn it all types want a revolution. We don’t need a revolution. And the people they want to help most get the most burned by revolution. Revolutions should be rare not a constant.

revolutions should be, like war, a last resort when all other attempts to resolve a crisis have failed or when some injustice is so dire and grievous that it requires direct intervention.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:32:25am

Lots of competition here. I don’t get these people who say the Democratic Party is in peril. We had a tough loss but we can and will rebound.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:32:52am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

revolutions should be, like war, a last resort when all other attempts to resolve a crisis have failed or when some injustice is so dire and grievous that it requires direct intervention.

Exactly.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:33:11am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

I’m campaigning for a woman seeking the delegate seat in my district and I think a woman will very likely be our nominee for my House district next year and a great candidate.

Wonderful. I’m guessing the folk there at Emily’s List are seeing a sea-change in women’s engagement in politics … they’ve had enough of the good ol’ boys club, and I don’t blame them a bit.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:37:06am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Because these burn it all types want a revolution. We don’t need a revolution. And the people they want to help most get the most burned by revolution. Revolutions should be rare not a constant.

And how do they plan on beating that inevitable counter-revolution? Obama proposed subsidized health care and look at the response from the GOP.

These “electing Trump will give us our revolution” morons are like a dog chasing a car: They wouldn’t know what to do with it if they managed to catch it.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:37:22am

re: #147 Jenner7

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“Who’s going to pay for the wall?!?”

“Mexico…at a later date…in some form!”

That is fucking hilarious.

Can’t believe he typed that with a straight face.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:38:16am

I like how he says we’re putting it off so we can get an early start.

SMDH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:39:27am
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gwangung  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:41:41am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Because these burn it all types want a revolution. We don’t need a revolution. And the people they want to help most get the most burned by revolution. Revolutions should be rare not a constant.

They have no clue what a revolution is.

It’s clear they have no idea what kind of work it would take to build structures after a “revolution”; and it seems to me that if structures like parties got demolished, they have no clue on how to rebuild a better structure to do what they want—-what’s likely to happen is that scavengers and vultures will swoop in after they get the change they demand and build a structure that’s worse than ever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:44:17am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was a joke!

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:44:41am

re: #174 gwangung

They have no clue what a revolution is.

It’s clear they have no idea what kind of work it would take to build structures after a “revolution”; and it seems to me that if structures like parties got demolished, they have no clue on how to rebuild a better structure to do what they want—-what’s likely to happen is that scavengers and vultures will swoop in after they get the change they demand and build a structure that’s worse than ever.

Well, I imagine that would depend on whether it is a “figurative” revolution or a real one.

A figurative revolution doesn’t really have much of a definition and could mean about anything. (Revolution in healthcare, revolution in telecommunications, &c).

An actual revolution (with modern weapons) would leave the country looking like Syria.

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Bass Reeves  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:45:56am

I am going to go out on a limb and say not only is Sanders the wrong messenger, but his message itself is shit. The proof is in the mam himself. It is a message he has no hope of implementing, and hasn’t made any significant strides in doing so for the last 20 years. It didn’t resonate with any majority of the left that wasn’t white and male. So what makes us continue to pay him lip service like he didn’t do anything but weaken the party since he showed up? He’s the Dem’s Sarah Palin, except she at least has some sense of party identity.

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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:45:57am

re: #142 darthstar

See what comes of endlessly relitigating the election loss? The stupid, it flows…

Betty Cracker over at Balloon Juice has a good reaction to that ABC poll. Her summation:

As for those of us who are dedicated to opposing the demagogue and rescuing the country from his cabal of amoral, scheming, self-interested scumbags, let that poll be a wake-up call: We need to turn out Democrats and get the millions who will be harmed and further impoverished by this maladministration off the sidelines. Chasing Trump voters is folly — they’re getting exactly what they want.

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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:52:02am

re: #178 stpaulbear

Gah. Here’s the BJ link.

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:53:42am

re: #1 Bubblehead II

Staying a way from politics.

Now playing

Roxxette.

Thanks for the link. It’s interesting to listen to a concert by them - I’ve always had a soft spot for well crafted euro-pop, especially with blond Swedish women doing vocals ;)

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:57:13am

A grammarian goes after The Economist for adhering to the zombie grammar rule of “no split infinitives.” (There is no such rule, except for the complaints of a small few XIX Century grammarians.)

languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu

Last January 21 The Economist actually printed a letter I wrote pointing out that how wirelessly to hack a car was a ridiculous way to say “how to wirelessly hack a car,” and resulted from a perverted and dimwitted obeisance to a zombie rule. But did they actually listen, and think about changing their ways? They did not. I have no idea how they manage to publish a beautiful magazine every Thursday night when they are so mentally crippled by eccentric 19th-century grammar edicts that they will commit syntactic self-harm rather than go against the prejudices of a few doddering old amateur grammarians in the middle 1800s who worried about the “split infinitive.” Take a look at this nonsense from the magazine’s leader in the issue of April 22, about UK prime minister Theresa May’s chances of having more flexibility after the general election she has called:

With a larger majority she can more easily stand up to her ultra-Eurosceptic backbenchers, some of whom seem actively to want Britain to crash out.

They don’t seem actively. Active seeming makes no sense. They seem to actively want Britain to crash out. What is so hard about the point I am making here?

(more at the link)

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allegro  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:58:29am

re: #177 Bass Reeves

I am going to go out on a limb and say not only is Sanders the wrong messenger, but his message itself is shit. The proof is in the mam himself. It is a message he has no hope of implementing, and hasn’t made any significant strides in doing so for the last 20 years. It didn’t resonate with any majority of the left that wasn’t white and male. So what makes us continue to pay him lip service like he didn’t do anything but weaken the party since he showed up? He’s the Dem’s Sarah Palin, except she at least has some sense of party identity.

I’m on that limb with you. Have been since the first primary debate when I saw an old white guy full of bluster and nothing else of merit. His good ideas were incorporated into the Dem platform so his stated interests for running were met. I’ve lost considerable respect for Perez now with his further promoting Sanders to his own and the party’s detriment.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:58:34am

re: #180 William Lewis

Thanks for the link. It’s interesting to listen to a concert by them - I’ve always had a soft spot for well crafted euro-pop, especially with blond Swedish women doing vocals ;)

Abba - Dancing Queen

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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 9:59:37am

Second comment at the BJ post that I linked to in 179:

From the ABC link:

“Among those who report having voted for him in November, 96 percent today say it was the right thing to do; a mere 2 percent regret it.”

So this only counts the people who are willing to say, today, that they voted for him. Of course those are the ones who are more likely to say that they would do it again.

What this leaves out are the people who voted for him but are already too embarrassed to admit it.

There’s probably a lot of truth in that statement.

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:03:00am

re: #177 Bass Reeves

I am going to go out on a limb and say not only is Sanders the wrong messenger, but his message itself is shit. The proof is in the mam himself. It is a message he has no hope of implementing, and hasn’t made any significant strides in doing so for the last 20 years. It didn’t resonate with any majority of the left that wasn’t white and male. So what makes us continue to pay him lip service like he didn’t do anything but weaken the party since he showed up? He’s the Dem’s Sarah Palin, except she at least has some sense of party identity.

I’ll have to check around, but there was a poll published that showed that Bernie supporters are not prepared to actually pay the taxes it would take to fund all the “free” shit he’s selling. They’re all convinced that the rich are going to pay for everything, totally ignorant of how the sausage is actually made at the federal level. They do not grasp the concept of there being no such thing as a free lunch.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:03:19am

re: #184 stpaulbear

Second comment at the BJ post that I linked to in 179:

There’s probably a lot of truth in that statement.

Only eight people in my precinct voted for Hillary Clinton (as well as three for Gary Johnson and two for Dr. Jill Stein), but I’ve heard over twenty people claim they didn’t vote for Donald Trump.

There is also the possibility that some people simply didn’t vote (they’re all the same, &c) as the voter turn out in my state was 71%, but I’m guessing a few people are embarrassed to admit it.

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:08:11am

re: #183 Anymouse

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Yep, though I actually like other songs better.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:14:41am

re: #87 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

I need an insulin shot after looking at that carb bomb! 😢

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:15:18am

re: #187 William Lewis

Yep, though I actually like other songs better.

Erasure covering “Take a Chance on Me” is a hoot… .

ERASURE TAKE A CHANCE ON ME

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Semper Fi  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:17:12am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m thinking Sessions has a lot of funny stuff like that just under his breath. It’s hard to hide ones ‘real’ feelings.

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:19:14am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

In hindsight as much as I do like Tim Kaine a lot, maybe Sherrod Brown would have been the better VP pick but as I said, it’s not as if we don’t listen to or address those voters concerns, if they don’t want to listen, that I say is more on them than the Democrats.

Sherrod would most likely have given Ohio to Clinton. Possibly Michigan too. He is liked by the union types.

My understanding was he was close to being the pick, but they didn’t want to give up the Ohio Senate seat. I think Clinton liked Brown too.

The way it turned out, I’d have been okay losing the Ohio Senate seat to have gotten the chance at the Supreme Court seats and to stop the killing of so much by Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:20:10am

re: #98 Anymouse

Veterans want more money? Dollar-for-dollar matching to build Teh Wall!!11!!!

I’ve seen conservative “concern” for military personnel and veterans all my adult life. (That might be why I’ve consistently voted for Democrats.)

Anymouse, I’m still expecting a shutdown Friday night and once again we’re going to be ordered to work and not get paid. I’m very fearful that this shutdown will go longer than the 5 weeks Fuckface Newt put us through in 1995-96!

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:23:16am

re: #192 Joe Bacon

Anymouse, I’m still expecting a shutdown Friday night and once again we’re going to be ordered to work and not get paid. I’m very fearful that this shutdown will go longer than the 5 weeks Fuckface Newt put us through in 1995-96!

I’m expecting the same, and for the Republicans to blame it on the Democrats (despite controlling the House, the Senate, and the Presidency).

Forget low information voters, there are a lot of no information voters. I fully expect FOX to go all-in on blaming Democrats should there be such a shutdown.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:25:48am

Let me guess how this will happen:

1. Government shuts down on Friday night
2. Trump goes golfing on Saturday.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:28:07am

Now this sign made me chuckle because it’s so true!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:28:17am

Also, what’s to stop the GOP from using some legislative dumbassery to force a funding bill through like they did with Gorsuch?

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:28:49am

re: #192 Joe Bacon

I like how the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall - GUARANTEED !- but now the Dems are going to be blamed for the GOP shutting down the government because once again, Trump lied.

Of course the media has already forgotten all about that, and will fall in line blaming the Dems too.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:29:07am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, what’s to stop the GOP from using some legislative dumbassery to force a funding bill through like they did with Gorsuch?

All McConnell has to do is kill the filibuster to pass whatever the House approves.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:31:15am

re: #197 Skip Intro

Now I wonder what people will say if Trump actually builds that wall but more and more people die from overprescribed opioids?

Silly me! They’ll continue to blame Mexicans for those overdoses because they are that stupid!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:32:05am

re: #199 Joe Bacon

While the rich people make bank off Pharmaceutical stocks.

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Weaselone  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:33:13am

re: #142 darthstar

See what comes of endlessly relitigating the election loss? The stupid, it flows…

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This type of poll is deeply stupid.

1. Hillary lost, so given the choice to vote again it makes sense that some of her voters would now vote rainbow unicorn.
2. Trump’s been in constant campaign mode since taking office with the entire power of his office and a good portion of the media trying to spin his shit into gold. Hillary’s largely been out of the news, except for the occasional detour by the media to shovel more shit on her. There’s no concerted effort to boost her.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:35:23am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:37:19am

re: #178 stpaulbear

Betty Cracker over at Balloon Juice has a good reaction to that ABC poll. Her summation:

She is absolutely right.

For every one “regular person” who realizes they’ve been scammed, there are a half-dozen Trumpies cackling with glee that Hillary is gone and the boot is on the brown man’s neck again. These folks are reality-impervious and have been for a decade or more now. They do not give a fuck. Stop trying to make them give a fuck. They just won’t.

The Democrats’ only hope is to dump the high-minded elitist reputation, stop talking ONLY about marginalized groups as the thing to worry about, and make themselves about restoring a robust middle class. Cost of living, cost of insurance, wages, debts, all these fucking monkeys on the back of everyone who isn’t living in a mansion.

It’s not “The Economy” - it’s our monthly budget, stupid. Insurance, telecom, food, and debt costs are eating us alive out here in the real world. Nobody can get ahead when their finances are just a steady stream of ass-kickings, one week to the next. Alleviate that, and they might get a few more folks crossing the aisle.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:37:56am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:38:03am

Here we go again.

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:38:26am

re: #185 Targetpractice

I’ll have to check around, but there was a poll published that showed that Bernie supporters are not prepared to actually pay the taxes it would take to fund all the “free” shit he’s selling. They’re all convinced that the rich are going to pay for everything, totally ignorant of how the sausage is actually made at the federal level. They do not grasp the concept of there being no such thing as a free lunch.

And all that in what was still going to be a Republican House, at least (and hopefully) until 2018. So Bernie would have had 2 years of wasted time and a Republican machine painting him a “commie” in the White House so they could possibly hold onto the House in 2018.

In other words., Bernie would not have had much of a chance to get anything done. And since he was all economic issues, should he have failed what was going to be his fall-back-on legislation? I can’t see Bernie out speaking to minorities and women about immigration, policing, jobs, etc.

Oh yeah, I forget. The Revolution was going to be so strong the Republicans would cower in the wave after wave of angry protesters and demonstrations and they would have buckled to the will of the leftist surge.

Uh…the Republicans aren’t even paying attention to their own supporters, look at their own town halls. Look at Congress ratings. Why would the Bernie Revolution have moved them?

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while(1) worries++;  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:39:09am

Sometimes I don’t have the patience or restraint to deal with some people.

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Weaselone  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:40:58am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, what’s to stop the GOP from using some legislative dumbassery to force a funding bill through like they did with Gorsuch?

Republicans actually have to vote to pass it in the House? There’s no filibuster going on yet. All this griping, swiping and sniping by Republicans is all about them needing Democratic votes in the House so their crazies can prove their budget hawk bonifides by voting no.

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:46:39am

re: #197 Skip Intro

I like how the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall - GUARANTEED !- but now the Dems are going to be blamed for the GOP shutting down the government because once again, Trump lied.

Of course the media has already forgotten all about that, and will fall in line blaming the Dems too.

It appears the governors in the actual border states do not want the wall.

I guess they don’t get a choice. Imagine that.

That is your Fox Factor Figured In. They have the people in Iowa and Indiana freaked out about the border but Texas, New Mexico, Arizona are not all sold.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:49:31am

re: #205 Charles Johnson

Strange that Popehat would go after you…

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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:50:45am

re: #203 Pawn of the Oppressor

The Democrats’ only hope is to dump the high-minded elitist reputation, stop talking ONLY about marginalized groups as the thing to worry about

Umm, You’ve been listening with quite a filter if the ONLY thing you heard the democrats talking about is ‘marginalized groups’. They did talk about solutions to ‘economic anxiety’, education and healthcare in addition to making sure that all people are treated equally.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:52:41am

What is it with the GOP and Pedophilia?

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:54:22am

re: #203 Pawn of the Oppressor

She is absolutely right.

For every one “regular person” who realizes they’ve been scammed, there are a half-dozen Trumpies cackling with glee that Hillary is gone and the boot is on the brown man’s neck again. These folks are reality-impervious and have been for a decade or more now. They do not give a fuck. Stop trying to make them give a fuck. They just don’t.

The Democrats’ only hope is to dump the high-minded elitist reputation, stop talking ONLY about marginalized groups as the thing to worry about, and make themselves about restoring a robust middle class. Cost of living, cost of insurance, wages, debts, all these fucking monkeys on the back of everyone who isn’t living in a mansion.

It’s not “The Economy” - it’s our monthly budget, stupid. Insurance, telecom, food, and debt costs are eating us alive out here in the real world. Nobody can get ahead when their finances are just a steady stream of ass-kickings, one week to the next.

The wording you use (bold) should be “restoring and enlarging the great and robust American middle class by giving more power and inclusion to women and all minorities so ALL people can enjoy the type of growth this country has had with fair taxing and creative progressive thinking.”

Everybody wants a job and piece of the action and to be treated like humans. EVERYBODY = ALL. There is the inclusion in an economic jobs message.

But I thought that is what the Democratic party has always wanted??? Apparently it needs to be pounded into a lot of heads that have forgotten and those that never knew.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:55:15am
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Birth Control Works  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:55:40am

bbl

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 10:58:09am
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mmmirele  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:08:51am

The Gospel Coalition (TGC) is a very conservative network of churches which is broadly Reformed in its theology. TGC sees itself as a gatekeeper for what is true and righteous among Calvinist-oriented evangelicals. As such, it spends a lot of time policing the borders of what it considers to be the Christian faith.

On Friday, one of the editors of TGC published an article talking about “broken wolves,” that is, in his mind, people, maybe even church members who are damaged but who are using their damage to lure others away from the “true Christianity” preached by TGC.

thegospelcoalition.org

The editor, Joe Carter, was very vague in what he was attacking, but it’s become clear from reading the comments that it’s an attack on any sort of understanding or rapprochement with the LGBT community, in particular those apostates and heretics who have the temerity to call themselves Christian and LGBT.

I wrote a long response; would there be any interest in reading it if I made it a Page?

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:11:59am

re: #217 mmmirele

Certainly Page it, for you never know who might read it.

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:12:03am

re: #216 Anymouse

Meanwhile,

Bose headphones spy on listeners: lawsuit

Bose Corp spies on its wireless headphone customers by using an app that tracks the music, podcasts and other audio they listen to, and violates their privacy rights by selling the information without permission, a lawsuit charged.

The complaint filed on Tuesday by Kyle Zak in federal court in Chicago seeks an injunction to stop Bose’s “wholesale disregard” for the privacy of customers who download its free Bose Connect app from Apple Inc or Google Play stores to their smartphones.

reuters.com

Of course we’ve already heard about how “Smart” tvs can also spy on you, without your knowledge or permission.

That disconnected cabin in the hills is sounding better all the time.

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:12:51am

re: #217 mmmirele

Also, the old statement is true, that Christianity that is fundamentalist/conservative in nature is a religion of the pelvis.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:17:03am

re: #220 freetoken

Also, the old statement is true, that Christianity that is fundamentalist/conservative in nature is a religion of the pelvis.

The nuns taught us that Elvis was the arch-priest of the pelvis.

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:17:35am

I suspect that when it comes down to it, the GOP’s worst fear now isn’t that they can get a bill passed by Thursday because odds are they can do so by just junking Trump’s demands. Their fear is that they get that bill to Trump’s desk…and he vetoes it because it doesn’t give him a “win” on Day 99.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:19:45am

re: #192 Joe Bacon

Anymouse, I’m still expecting a shutdown Friday night and once again we’re going to be ordered to work and not get paid. I’m very fearful that this shutdown will go longer than the 5 weeks Fuckface Newt put us through in 1995-96!

Does the SSA have to man the phones and still help? My office (food additive safety approval) shuts down and we’re not allowed to even log on to the VPN on pain of some unspecified horror.

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:21:11am

France Votes In The First Round Of Its Historic Presidential Election

The preliminary results of France’s first round of presidential elections are in, and independent candidate Emmanuel Macron is predicted to win with 23.7 percent of the vote. Far-right National Front leader Marine Le Pen looks to be the runner-up with 21.7 percent, and would face off against Macron in the second round if these figures hold.

These numbers are early estimates released after polls closed at 8 p.m. local time, and official tallies will come later in the evening. People around the world are watching the election as a litmus test of just how influential the strains of populism and nationalism in Europe have become.

huffingtonpost.com

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:21:43am

re: #223 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Does the SSA have to man the phones and still help? My office (food additive safety approval) shuts down and we’re not allowed to even log on to the VPN on pain of some unspecified horror.

For DoD there were pretty much different rules for each shutdown. Expect a clarification memo about June.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:22:28am

re: #224 Skip Intro

France Votes In The First Round Of Its Historic Presidential Election

huffingtonpost.com

What is French for “BernieBro”?

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:23:53am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

What is French for “BernieBro”?

Given the field, the preliminary results are the best possible outcome.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:24:52am

re: #227 Skip Intro

Given the field, the preliminary results are the best possible outcome.

Pretty close if some sectors stay home to polish their virtue.

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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:27:39am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Pretty close if some sectors stay home to polish their virtue.

That will come in the final next month. It’s Le Pen’s to lose, I’m sad to say, given the help she’s receiving from Russia.

Sounds kind of familiar.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:29:41am

re: #213 ObserverArt

But I thought that is what the Democratic party has always wanted??? Apparently it needs to be pounded into a lot of heads that have forgotten and those that never knew.

Yes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:30:05am

re: #216 Anymouse

Ugh. Uber is such a toxic company.

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mmmirele  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:30:55am

OK, I put a Page up with my response to “Beware of Broken Wolves.”

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:38:20am

re: #219 Skip Intro

Meanwhile,

Bose headphones spy on listeners: lawsuit

reuters.com

Of course we’ve already heard about how “Smart” tvs can also spy on you, without your knowledge or permission.

That disconnected cabin in the hills is sounding better all the time.

Or a house in a village in the Nebraska Panhandle where their is no cell or Internet service… .

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:38:50am
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Skip Intro  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:39:38am
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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:42:00am

re: #234 Charles Johnson

It would appear that there is a second round of voting on May 7. Let’s hope the French electorate is better about showing up than ours - and that watching our president they don’t want the French version of Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:42:21am

re: #233 Anymouse

Or a house in a village in the Nebraska Panhandle where their is no cell or Internet service… .

Rest secure in the arms of your party-line operator.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:46:49am

Up next in trendy worries: Lectin.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:48:21am

re: #159 Anymouse

Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or a fool from any direction.

That’s damned good advice.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:50:04am

re: #238 jaunte

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Up next in trendy worries: Lectin.

I better stock up.

Restaurant down the street had a really good looking dark chocolate cookie. When they said, ‘And, it’s gluten free!’, I said, ‘I’ll take it. Do you have any gluten I could spread on it?’

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:50:30am
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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:50:37am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

Rest secure in the arms of your party-line operator.

Well, I don’t have a party line but I do have a dial telephone.

Since it’s wired to the wall I can’t be tracked with it, but I suppose someone could turn on the microphone and listen in… .

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gwangung  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:51:42am

re: #235 Skip Intro

Yay, Kristina!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:52:40am

re: #242 Anymouse

Well, I don’t have a party line but I do have a dial telephone.

Since it’s wired to the wall I can’t be tracked with it, but I suppose someone could turn on the microphone and listen in… .

A remote laser microphone could easily record the unique “chk-chk-chk” of every number you dial.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:53:07am

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:53:13am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Revolutions often create governments that are far worse than the ones overthrown. The Bourbons and the Romanovs were no great shakes but the Jacobins and Marxists were monsters.

America was very, very fortunate with its revolution. It was run by well educated, balanced people who were more interested in wisdom and goodness than Truth™. America cannot count on that happening again.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:53:58am

re: #223 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Does the SSA have to man the phones and still help? My office (food additive safety approval) shuts down and we’re not allowed to even log on to the VPN on pain of some unspecified horror.

Yes but we will be limited because during shutdowns we aren’t allowed to issue cards or take claims. Which gets lots of people pissed off!

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:54:05am

re: #238 jaunte

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Up next in trendy worries: Lectin.

At least it’s not pectin. If it were pectin, I’d have to give up my loquats.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:54:05am

re: #219 Skip Intro

Meanwhile,

Bose headphones spy on listeners: lawsuit

reuters.com

Of course we’ve already heard about how “Smart” tvs can also spy on you, without your knowledge or permission.

That disconnected cabin in the hills is sounding better all the time.

When will Trump make this legal?

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:55:16am

Speaking of loquats, this has been the first season in 3 years that I’ve been able to find some decent ones.

However, the selection is down… unfortunately people have been cutting down their trees… and the multi-year drought really took a toll on the trees that are not watered by people.

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 11:57:23am

It is in any case a victory for Le Pen.

10 years ago her today’s result would have been hardly imaginable.

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:00:01pm

re: #251 Nyet

I’ve been listening to the Weird History podcasts on the fascist Italy, the rise of Il DUCE, etc. Easily digestible short podcasts.

Anyway, the concept of nationalism is one which I think we have to wrestle, for it lay, I propose, behind some of Trump’s popularity (noting here again that Trump actually is not very popular with half the country, but still is very popular among enough voters to make a difference.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:00:08pm

Tre: #245 Eric The Fruit Bat

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:01:19pm

re: #251 Nyet

It is in any case a victory for Le Pen.

10 years ago her today’s result would have been hardly imaginable.

I’d say the same is true about Trump, but I think we’d have to go back about 20 years.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:01:56pm

Oh wonderful …

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:02:33pm

re: #254 wrenchwench

I’d say the same is true about Trump, but I think we’d have to go back about 20 years.

Most pundits couldn’t imagine that 12 months ago.

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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:02:38pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

A remote laser microphone could easily record the unique “chk-chk-chk” of every number you dial.

I was pretty amazed when I discovered at about 10 years old that, on a rotary phone, you could dial a number by tapping it out on the buttons that the handset sit on.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:02:47pm
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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:03:04pm

Here’s the first episode on the Weird History series on fascist Italy:

interestingtimespodcast.com

They’re almost done, I think, with the series.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:03:24pm

Trump will now start tweeting about which Justices were “nice” to him.

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bratwurst  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:04:17pm

re: #255 Anymouse

Oh wonderful …

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What are the odds Trump mentions the fact he was once “Grand Marshal” of an Israel Day parade?

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:04:42pm

re: #257 stpaulbear

I was pretty amazed when I discovered at about 10 years old that, on a rotary phone, you could dial a number by tapping it out on the buttons that the handset sit on.

Tiny hacker! (That’s almost an Elton John song.)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:05:13pm

re: #255 Anymouse

Oh wonderful …

PRESS RELEASE: @POTUS Trump to deliver keynote at our annual #HolocaustRemembrance ceremony at @USCapitol.

You’ll be sick of all the wincing.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:06:02pm

re: #262 wrenchwench

Tiny hacker! (That’s almost an Elton John song.)

And the second-best WKRP episode.

imdb.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:06:15pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:06:54pm

re: #255 Anymouse

Oh wonderful …

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Hee’s gonna blow up reeel guud at that event. It’ll be so embarrassing for everyone but him.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:07:53pm

re: #257 stpaulbear

I was pretty amazed when I discovered at about 10 years old that, on a rotary phone, you could dial a number by tapping it out on the buttons that the handset sit on.

You can do that with a touch-tone phone too.

[telephonetechnicianhaton]

What makes a dial telephone work is the dial actually breaks the connexion in the phone line - thus dialing a “six” for example, will open the line six times.

Since all telephone lines recognise dial telephones (backward compatibility), clicking the switchhook on a touch-tone telephone will do the same (as long as the pushes on the switchhook are even enough for the telephone company to figure out).

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:07:54pm

“It begins”? More like “It resumes”

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allegro  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:08:04pm

re: #265 GlutenFreeJesus

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So they invite the guy to give their keynote who refused to acknowledge Jews on the last Holocaust remembrance day? WTF?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:10:52pm

re: #269 allegro

So they invite the guy to give their keynote who refused to acknowledge Jews on the last Holocaust remembrance day? WTF?

It’s good to be the king.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:11:01pm

re: #212 Birth Control Works

What is it with the GOP and Pedophilia?

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They’re bullies at heart, and bullies only attack those who can’t fight back.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:11:38pm

re: #269 allegro

So they invite the guy to give their keynote who refused to acknowledge Jews on the last Holocaust remembrance day? WTF?

—- —-

The Council, which meets twice a year, consists of 55 members appointed by the president, as well as five members each from the Senate and House of Representatives and three ex-officio members from the Departments of Education, Interior, and State. Presidential appointments serve for a five-year term; 11 members’ terms expire each year.

US Holocaust Museum Memorial Council (more at the link)
ushmm.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:15:37pm

Fuck this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:16:32pm

re: #209 ObserverArt

It appears the governors in the actual border states do not want the wall.

I guess they don’t get a choice. Imagine that.

If a rocky island outcrop in the Pacific should not be able to stop the President, then neither should a half-barren wasteland on the Mexican border.

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:18:23pm

re: #255 Anymouse

He’ll probably boast about the American gas chambers being the biggest and the best, not like those puny German gas chambers.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:19:33pm

As for Trump flirting with Nazis, a reminder that Reagan did too… .
nytimes.com (NYT, May 6, 1985, on Reagan’s visit to Bitburg Cemetery, laying a wreath at an obelisk overlooking SS graves)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:19:40pm
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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:20:01pm
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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:26:30pm
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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:37:50pm

re: #279 Nyet

She also misquotes President Eisenhower in a meme on her timeline (below the actual quote).

historycommons.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:38:28pm
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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:42:43pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:42:45pm

(deleted: Didn’t know about Latuff)

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:44:58pm

re: #283 lockjawcanbefun

No. It’s Latuff, the antisemitic asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:46:11pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:47:42pm

re: #284 Nyet

Whoops! I generally trust Kinsella on stuff like this. Deleted.

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:48:45pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They do. Then they come to power and suddenly they decide that some elites are totally cool, it’s the ones who oppose their being in power that are the “enemy” and must be dealt with.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:50:04pm

For all the Democrats dumping on Heath Mello (D) running for Omaha mayor for his personal position against abortion, Mayor Jean Stothert (R) has invited Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wisc.) to rally for her.

As Senator Tim Kaine noted, Mr. Mello said he would not use his personal position on abortion in legislation (which he couldn’t do as Mayor of Omaha anyway).

omaha.com (more at the Omaha World-Herald):

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker will appear in Omaha next week to support Mayor Jean Stothert.

Walker is expected to appear Monday at a number of events, including a rally, said Dave Boomer, communications director of the Stothert campaign. The time and place have yet to be determined; Boomer said the campaign was working on those details Tuesday.

“We’re delighted that he’ll be coming to support Mayor Stothert,” Boomer said.

Walker’s visit is scheduled within days of 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ planned appearance Thursday in Omaha in support of Heath Mello, Stothert’s opponent in the May 9 city election.

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freetoken  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:50:39pm

re: #287 Anymouse

Purity tests are the death of progress.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:54:17pm

re: #289 freetoken

Purity tests are the death of progress.

The issue for purity ponies on the left is that Mr. Mello (when he was a senator in the Unicameral) offered up a bill which stated that a doctor had to offer an ultrasound for a woman seeking an abortion.

It was a compromise to a bill that the supermajority Republican legislature offered that would require a woman to get an ultrasound (and pay for it). Mr. Mello’s bill was the one that passed.

Thus, quite a few people on the left are arguing Mr. Mello is “anti-abortion.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:55:05pm

good grief.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:55:32pm

re: #289 freetoken

re: #287 Anymouse

Purity tests are the death of progress.

OK, that’s weird. #287 was Targetpractice. Anymouse was #288.

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bratwurst  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:55:47pm

Breaking news from a one-time lizard!

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:55:57pm

Best Comment on a Washington Post article, about the administration hinting it won’t vote for funding the government unless the wall is funded:

RegardsSentAgain
2:48 PM CDT
How about Trump puts up the Wall money and we’ll pay him back at a later date.

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KerFuFFler  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:56:20pm

re: #101 Anymouse

…Mr. Trump “congratulated” him for receiving the medal. (To be clear, no one congratulates someone for the Purple Heart. At least, no one who knows what he is doing in office.)

mediaite.com

(more at Mediaite)

Well, at least he did not say, “I prefer soldiers who don’t get wounded.”

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:57:19pm

re: #293 bratwurst

Breaking news from a one-time lizard!

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Hannity totally could have done it, but I don’t trust Debbie on anything.

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bratwurst  Apr 23, 2017 • 12:58:21pm

He doesn’t seem to know what “still” means.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:00:27pm

re: #293 bratwurst

Breaking news from a one-time lizard!

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I honestly don’t know which one is more repulsive!

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:02:20pm

re: #298 Joe Bacon

I honestly don’t know which one is more repulsive!

For me it’s Hannity all the way.

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bratwurst  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:03:18pm

re: #299 Nyet

For me it’s Hannity all the way.

I tend to agree. I think he is more cynical in what he does than Debbie.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:03:23pm

re: #297 bratwurst

He doesn’t seem to know what “still” means.

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53% of what said strong leader?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:04:09pm

Well, a whole lot of Putinite disinfo assets just lost their vacation plans for the next two weeks. There’s an election to fuck up! Best get clicking!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:04:29pm

On one hand, purity tests are bad.

On the other…yeah, I think it’s understandable that anything that involves object insertion into cavities is a line where people are going to tell you to fuck off with that noise. “We will only concern troll you with an unnecessary medical procedure” is…well, it’s kind of shit.

Maybe not “don’t vote for this guy as opposed to the other” but definitely enough that folks are going to be vocally pissed.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:08:40pm

re: #303 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

On one hand, purity tests are bad.

On the other…yeah, I think it’s understandable that anything that involves object insertion into cavities is a line where people are going to tell you to fuck off with that noise. “We will only concern troll you with an unnecessary medical procedure” is…well, it’s kind of shit.

Maybe not “don’t vote for this guy as opposed to the other” but definitely enough that folks are going to be vocally pissed.

Also, the part about ‘He’s only running for mayor’ is pavement for the road to Hell. Mayor can most assuredly harass abortion providers. Don’t know if this one would. Prefer not to find out.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:10:34pm

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He knows that he likes LePen and wants to see her winpussy

This is Trump after all.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:11:11pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

Also, the part about ‘He’s only running for mayor’ is pavement for the road to Hell. Mayor can most assuredly harass abortion providers. Don’t know if this one would. Prefer not to find out.

Mr. Mello would not harass abortion providers as far as I know.

I suppose we can throw the Democratic candidate in a bright-red state under the bus so the Republican mayor can be reëlected though.

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:11:45pm

Another dad gum Republican child molester:

juanitajean.com

cincinnati.com

Hold your nose when you read the comments on the Cincinnati page.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:12:05pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

Also, the part about ‘He’s only running for mayor’ is pavement for the road to Hell. Mayor can most assuredly harass abortion providers. Don’t know if this one would. Prefer not to find out.

And this is the world so many refuse to acknowledge exists: A choice between a Democrat that might and a Republican that will. The people that are confused by the idea that the world isn’t composed of easy one-or-the-other choices wouldn’t be worth my time if they couldn’t do damage.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:15:27pm

Sometimes the Democrats need to have a message sent. If it happens in a red state, well, message sent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:15:27pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

Also, the part about ‘He’s only running for mayor’ is pavement for the road to Hell. Mayor can most assuredly harass abortion providers. Don’t know if this one would. Prefer not to find out.

Also the part about it being mansplained and having my legitimate pissed off reason AS A WOMAN dismissed as nothing more than a “purity pony”.

I am not sorry that it pisses me off to have my silly little woman head patted while being informed that this is all for my own good because I don’t know better…oh wait…he was just compromising and didn’t mean it, really, he didn’t mean it…

GFG

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:17:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:19:08pm

Apparently having a D after a name on the ballot is a good enough reason to vote for someone.

Guess what? That’s why we have very few actual Dems in elected office in Kentucky, as opposed to Blue Dogs.

But they have a D after their name so if the topic of say, abortion, comes up…shut up because there’s a D after the name.

gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:23:26pm

Amongst other things Heath Mello voted for (or sponsored) while in the Unicameral:

Repeal the Death Penalty (passed), override the governor’s veto (passed) - not his fault the voters re-instated it with a referendum.
Medical Marijuana bill - (filibustered by Republicans, failed)
Prohibit Wage Discrimination in Small Business - co-sponsored - passed
Prohibit Hunting of Mountain Lions (Passed, failed override of veto)
Raise Minimum Wage (Failed, overriden by voter referendum)

I get the idea that a doctor noting that ultrasounds are available (Mr. Mello’s bill) is insulting and demeaning to women. The alternative was enforced ultrasounds (as proposed by the Republicans).

votesmart.org
(Mr. Mello’s voting record in the Unicameral)

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:24:16pm

Purity pony:

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:24:45pm

re: #314 wrenchwench

Purity pony:

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LOL

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:25:43pm

re: #314 wrenchwench

Purity pony:

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Don’t they come out of the belly button?

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allegro  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:26:25pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also the part about it being mansplained and having my legitimate pissed off reason AS A WOMAN dismissed as nothing more than a “purity pony”.

I am not sorry that it pisses me off to have my silly little woman head patted while being informed that this is all for my own good because I don’t know better…oh wait…he was just compromising and didn’t mean it, really, he didn’t mean it…

GFG

This. I get not working against the guy and even voting for him since he’s marginally better than the other one. I would even support the DNC tossing him a few bucks. What gets me stabby is Bernie’s and Perez’s full-throated support and active campaigning for him. This feels like a direct slap for the reasons you state.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:28:35pm

re: #317 allegro

This. I get not working against the guy and even voting for him since he’s marginally better than the other one. I would even support the DNC tossing him a few bucks. What gets me stabby is Bernie’s and Perez’s full-throated support and active campaigning for him. This feels like a direct slap for the reasons you state.

He is not “marginally better” than Jean Stothert. He is far-and-away better.

That said, I suppose if I lived in Omaha I could vote for whoever was running as a Green … that would show those Democrats I mean business. /s

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:29:24pm

re: #316 retired cynic

Don’t they come out of the belly button?

That’s what I was taught! (Until my mom was pregnant with twins and got an inverted belly button and 8 is old enough [I guess] to get some nuances.)

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allegro  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:29:45pm

re: #318 Anymouse

He is not “marginally better” than Jean Stothert. He is far-and-away better.

That said, I suppose if I lived in Omaha I could vote for whoever was running as a Green … that would show those Democrats I mean business. /s

Our concerns have thusly been dimissed. Again.

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:31:30pm

re: #320 allegro

Our concerns have thusly been dimissed. Again.

There is not another Democrat running in Omaha. I guess the Democratic voters should stay home and let the Walker-supported mayor win.

I’m betting Mr. Mello would be much more interested in listening to concerns than Jean Stothert.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:35:01pm

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Anymouse  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:37:37pm

Well, naptime for me. Catch y’all later… .

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Nyet  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:39:35pm

“BBL” (c)DF

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 1:48:37pm

re: #324 Nyet

“BBL” (c)DF

OK, here’s the deal ( and I’m not talking behind his back because he NEVER actually leaves when he says he’s leaving, because there are always several posts after he’s left to get some sleep…)

He keeps dragging this Mello thing back from DAYS AGO, even when we have all left that hopeless argument.

And he does not ever actually address the issue of medically unforced ultrasound (even though I specifically mentioned how horrible the procedure was for me WHEN IT WAS medically required), it’s all just Mello is a Democrat, his opponent is a Republican, and oh look at these progressive things he voted for in the past and oh! he’s only running for mayor of Omaha now…

good fucking grief.
This is getting really tiresome.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2017 • 2:09:57pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

To Ms. Le Pen I say, “Takes one to know one.”

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 23, 2017 • 2:19:31pm

Sigh.

I’m so glad that the abortion debate ended here in Canada decades ago. It’s toxic to a nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 2:27:54pm

re: #327 Romantic Heretic

Sigh.

I’m so glad that the abortion debate ended here in Canada decades ago. It’s toxic to a nation.

Something here in the USA that still gripes me is when a woman shows up in the ER for any reason the first thing that is demanded is a piss test to make sure she isn’t pregnant.
Forget that she might have a burst appendix or something along those lines and time is of the essence…

Let’s just assume she’s preggers and trying to get rid of an unborn…

*spit*

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ObserverArt  Apr 23, 2017 • 2:45:11pm

re: #306 Anymouse

Mr. Mello would not harass abortion providers as far as I know.

I suppose we can throw the Democratic candidate in a bright-red state under the bus so the Republican mayor can be reëlected though.

Let me get this straight.

If a bunch of moderate Republicans get sick of Trump taking control of the party and they decide to put a “D” by their name, but they hold onto some conservative thinking like being against abortion (not pro-choice…big difference) it’s okay because then we get some more “D”s in office?

Because in a way I think that is a bit how this is being seen. People are suspicious of Mello from what I can tell and with good reason.

How many other parts of the long-standing Democratic party do we all need to consider chucking so we can have some more Democrats in office?

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2017 • 3:23:58pm

re: #329 ObserverArt

Let me get this straight.

If a bunch of moderate Republicans get sick of Trump taking control of the party and they decide to put a “D” by their name, but they hold onto some conservative thinking like being against abortion (not pro-choice…big difference) it’s okay because then we get some more “D”s in office?

Because in a way I think that is a bit how this is being seen. People are suspicious of Mello from what I can tell and with good reason.

How many other parts of the long-standing Democratic party do we all need to consider chucking so we can have some more Democrats in office?

In some states, the D’s are going to be pretty conservative. They maybe won’t vote for all the nominees and legislation a progressive and/or liberal would like.

But the difference between Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi, the difference between Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, is DOES THAT LEGISLATION AND THOSE NOMINEES EVER COME TO A VOTE?!?

At some point, from some jurisdictions… yes. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice part of your priority list, if the alternative is sacrificing *ALL* of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2017 • 3:30:57pm

re: #330 sagehen

In some states, the D’s are going to be pretty conservative. They maybe won’t vote for all the nominees and legislation a progressive and/or liberal would like.

But the difference between Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi, the difference between Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, is DOES THAT LEGISLATION AND THOSE NOMINEES EVER COME TO A VOTE?!?

At some point, from some jurisdictions… yes. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice part of your priority list, if the alternative is sacrificing *ALL* of it.

And sometimes, like in Kentucky right now…there is no “part of your priority list” to sacrifice because the Blue Dog dems here are more than willing to sacrifice ALL of it.

But they have a D after their names on the ballot so that should be good enough…

O_o

I have a vagina but that’s not a good enough reason for me to vote for a woman.

Just sayin…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 23, 2017 • 3:54:18pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

I’ll have to check around, but there was a poll published that showed that Bernie supporters are not prepared to actually pay the taxes it would take to fund all the “free” shit he’s selling. They’re all convinced that the rich are going to pay for everything, totally ignorant of how the sausage is actually made at the federal level. They do not grasp the concept of there being no such thing as a free lunch.

At one time I shared the view that taxes would have to increase on the middle class to handle the bringing down the deficit and providing for more benefits for those who are not in the 1%, but after seeing Trump’s 1995 tax return, I am not so sure any longer. Trump would not be the only plutocrat who gamed the system outrageously; we also have carried interest loophole. Of course, with the current Congress there doesn’t appear any way of getting the wealthy to pay a fairer share, but I think certain financial issues would vanish if we had a government that actually cared about us.

I am not a fan of Bernie but know many who supported him and still support him, those most ended up voting for Hillary. These voters were all white and in their 60’s or older. They will still vote next time around — and are not really tuned in to the details of the candidates. To win, Democrats should not be trying to alienate these people.


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