The Bob Cesca Show: (Unintelligible)

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Unintelligible: Kimberley Johnson, host of the Start Me Up podcast and author of Peyton’s Choice joins us for the hour; Your calls at 707-317-6060; We review and dissect Donald Trump’s insane AP interview; Donald Junior’s animal hatred; What’s next in the French election; Lindsey Graham’s Skeet City; Jeff Sessions bags on Hawaii; and more.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:10:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:12:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:13:05pm

WTF is wrong with their mouths? Do they not shut? It’s not like they’re smiling or anything.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:15:10pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

WTF is wrong with their mouths? Do they not shut? It’s not like they’re smiling or anything.

This whole family is just not right.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:15:11pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:16:46pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

This whole family is just not right.

Drawn from the shallow end of the gene pool. A walking advertisement against white supremacy.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:17:24pm

Carried over from the previous thread:

re: #117 Cheechako

Now, let’s see. trump starts a trade war by adding a tariff to Canadian lumber being imported into the US. Of course this increases the cost for ALL lumber, from both Canada and the US.

So, now any lumber needed to build his wall is going to cost “somebody” a lot more $’s.
And the price of the wall goes even higher.

Boy, that trump president guy has a good head for business. He’s real good at increasing business costs so businesses can go bankrupt even faster.

My head is spinning.

He still doesn’t have a good head for the Constitution or governance. Tariffs are taxes, and thus must originate in the US House. The President can’t impose a unilateral tariff on anything.

I suspect there are exactly zero Republican representatives that want to cut their own political throats trying to explain that to their constituents.

On the other hand, such concerns might rattle the markets. Might be worthwhile to find out who makes money on such a tariff threat scaring the stock market.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:17:55pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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I loved it. That was the end though. Tres sad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:20:10pm

I had a dream last night Trump sent a huge Aircraft carrier and other ships to NK.

I really hope it doesn’t come true but I am not overly optimistic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:20:43pm

Anyone else around here watch the Bates Motel finale last night?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:23:21pm

the newest outrage is so ohmegawd….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:23:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:24:56pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

the newest outrage is so ohmegawd….

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Why not? Christ, if they’d pay me that I’d do more than talk!!!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:25:36pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

the newest outrage is so ohmegawd….

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So tired of the Purity Patrol. While Donald Trump and his family are robbing the country blind, they’re whining about a former President’s speaking fees.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:26:02pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

the newest outrage is so ohmegawd….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:26:41pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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[wingnut]IT WAS NOT!! IT WAS ABOUT STATES’ RIGHTS!!![.wingnut]

Okay, then - it was about whether States’ rights trump HUMAN rights. We decided they don’t. And all it cost was 600,000 American lives.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:26:43pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

So tired of the Purity Patrol. While Donald Trump and his family are robbing the country blind, they’re whining about a former President’s speaking fees.

Don’t forget the whining because Chelsea Clinton exists and won’t say she’ll never ever run for public office. Ever.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:27:20pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

So tired of the Purity Patrol. While Donald Trump and his family are robbing the country blind, they’re whining about a former President’s speaking fees.

Fuck them & I blame them.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:27:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:28:16pm

re: #17 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t forget the whining because Chelsea Clinton exists and won’t say she’ll never ever run for public office. Ever.

Sometimes, I hate our side.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:28:21pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

The same reason a dog licks his balls, duh.

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Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:28:41pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

WTF is wrong with their mouths? Do they not shut? It’s not like they’re smiling or anything.

Mouth breathers.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:29:21pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

In machine learning, what he’s doing would be called overfitting. There are legitimate things to be concerned about; Obama talking to banks isn’t one of them.

The only way this would be remotely a concern is if Obama still has access to the TARDIS.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:29:37pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Sometimes, I hate our side.

I looked at her mentions yesterday afternoon and just …there are a lot of really awful people in this world.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:30:54pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

They could be giving that money to Paul Ryan.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:31:10pm

re: #24 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I looked at her mentions yesterday afternoon and just …there are a lot of really awful people in this world.

You know, back in 1993, a lot of us were really upset with Rush Limbaugh making nasty remarks about her. Now? it’s a sport.

Fuck ‘em.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:32:32pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:32:52pm

re: #25 Belafon

They could be giving that money to Paul Ryan.

Well then, that’s different. Makes it okay.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:34:01pm

I’ve been calling those two Uday and Qusay for so long I have trouble recalling what their real names are.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:34:12pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, back in 1993, a lot of us were really upset with Rush Limbaugh making nasty remarks about her. Now? it’s a sport.

Fuck ‘em.

If she somehow wants to go into public office because she feels that’s where she can do the most good, and she convinces the voters of whatever that office is to vote for her - more power to her. Seriously. Because she has seen firsthand the toll it takes and she’s watched how the country treats its women politicians in particular.

If she’s strong enough to face that and wants to take it on, I have a shitton of respect for her for that. (Voting for her would still depend on her platform, whether I was a legal voter for that particular thing, etc., but I’m sure as hell not going to automatically rule her out because “Clinton” like so many people are already ready to do.)

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:34:19pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

WTF is wrong with their mouths? Do they not shut? It’s not like they’re smiling or anything.

When ever I see that image I think of…

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:35:19pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:38:05pm

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

I’ve been calling those two Uday and Qusay for so long I have trouble recalling what their real names are.

Dale and Daryl.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:38:08pm

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

I’ve been calling those two Uday and Qusay for so long I have trouble recalling what their real names are.

Jose and Hose B.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:38:38pm

re: #34 Barefoot Grin

*WHACK!*

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Weaselone  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:38:47pm

re: #32 Belafon

So if he comes out and says that something needs to be done about income inequality, the shadow banking industry, or corporate money in politics, that’s invalidated by the fact that he took money from a bank after leaving office?

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:39:30pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Dale and Daryl.

Is Ivanka the other brother Daryl? Or have I got my memes mixed.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:40:20pm

Perspective:

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:40:33pm

re: #37 Romantic Heretic

Is Ivanka the other brother Daryl? Or have I got my memes mixed.

Daisy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:40:42pm

re: #36 Weaselone

So if he comes out and says that something needs to be done about income inequality, the shadow banking industry, or corporate money in politics, that’s invalidated by the fact that he took money from a bank after leaving office?

Logic is not relevant here.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:41:00pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:41:53pm
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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:42:28pm

re: #36 Weaselone

So if he comes out and says that something needs to be done about income inequality, the shadow banking industry, or corporate money in politics, that’s invalidated by the fact that he took money from a bank after leaving office?

More people that have little clue how the world works.

I’m not the most worldly person - I don’t like traveling (I’d be OK if they ever invent the transporter) - but I know that these people are paying Obama to be Obama. No fucks to give Obama owes them nothing. He’s not going to go up there and give their speech.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:42:54pm

re: #41 Anymouse

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It’s ok. It’s not like places like upstate New York and Vermont depend on Canadians coming over to shop or anything.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:44:35pm

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

It’s ok. It’s not like places like upstate New York and Vermont depend on Canadians coming over to shop or anything.

You mean the areas that went for Trump:

2016 Election Results
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petesh  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:44:46pm

re: #36 Weaselone

So if he comes out and says that something needs to be done about income inequality, the shadow banking industry, or corporate money in politics, that’s invalidated by the fact that he took money from a bank after leaving office?

It’s racism. Again. From the left. I am so sick of this, but one more time: When Obama, an intelligent and articulate moderate, was elected in 2008, far too many people of the left assumed that he was putting on the centrist shuck’n’jive in order to get elected but really he’d throw off that tie and reveal himself as a revolutionary. That was a racist assumption that none of them will ever cop to. Obama is a good guy, but he’s a capitalist — he fucking says so!

My hero wouldn’t take that $400,000 but that’s because my hero doesn’t exist.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:44:57pm

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

It’s ok. It’s not like places like upstate New York and Vermont depend on Canadians coming over to shop or anything.

No one will take my Canadian money here in Nebraska for some reason. Hence the planned trip to Yukon (if we can still do it): We have to spend it somewhere.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:45:36pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:45:45pm

re: #47 Anymouse

No one will take my Canadian money here in Nebraska for some reason. Hence the planned trip to Yukon (if we can still do it): We have to spend it somewhere.

Or come to the wild north country. Not nearly as far, but Canuckistan coinage is still legal tender around here. (Spoiler: It’s mostly because it’s so common to see here that no one can tell the difference, even if they cared.)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:46:44pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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With Emilio Estevez playing Guy Richie, for some reason.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:47:55pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

Or come to the wild north country. Not nearly as far, but Canuckistan coinage is still legal tender around here. (Spoiler: It’s mostly because it’s so common to see here that no one can tell the difference, even if they cared.)

Wild North Country - which wild north country? I’m originally from Michigan - people will accept Canadian money there (at a steep discount).

From here, Saskatchewan is the closest to me.

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BeachDem  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:48:31pm

And about all the “unintelligible” parts of the AP interview (it was ALL unintelligent, but I digress.)

Charles P. Pierce:

How can something said in this interview situation possibly be “unintelligible”? Did the president* mumble something into his shirt? Did he lapse into whispering? Did he start speaking in Aramaic or in tongues? Did he start singing obscure show tunes in an unknown Balkan dialect? What in the name of god is going on here?

There was the customary sprawling ravine between his applause lines on the stump and what he’s actually doing, delivered in what appears at first glance to be English but which, on further review, seems to be a dialect somewhere between Old English and Woody Woodpecker.

esquire.com

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thedopefishlives  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:48:53pm

re: #51 Anymouse

Wild North Country - which wild north country? I’m originally from Michigan - people will accept Canadian money there (at a steep discount).

From here, Saskatchewan is the closest to me.

Minnesota = wild north country, or “the fishbowl”.

Indiana = fish country, where my family originally settled after leaving Pennsylvania, where they arrived in the New World back in the late 1600’s.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:48:57pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I want to go in a different direction (think turning US History in to a rap musical): Ruth Negga, with no music. All of her songs are spoken.

And, for the record, I’m jealous of Dominic Cooper.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:51:14pm

Quick check: has President Trump’s crack team of investigators found those buses bringing fake voters from Massachusetts into New Hampshire yet?

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:52:52pm

re: #52 BeachDem

Because the word that fits better than “unintelligible” would be “dribble”. Maybe “asinine” would work too.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:53:56pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

Minnesota = wild north country, or “the fishbowl”.

Indiana = fish country, where my family originally settled after leaving Pennsylvania, where they arrived in the New World back in the late 1600’s.

Last summer, we looked at this sign and said “nah.” (We’d planned to cross the border at Fort Frances.) Continued on around Lake Superior and Lake Huron instead.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:56:32pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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For real? Some unknown woman (preferably with a Catholic background so she has an understanding of just what Madonna was really rebelling against).

But given Hollywood? Best hope would be someone like Emma Watson.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:56:35pm

re: #55 Barefoot Grin

Quick check: has President Trump’s crack team of investigators found those buses bringing fake voters from Massachusetts into New Hampshire yet?

I’m still waiting for Obama’s real birth certificate.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:56:38pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:56:39pm

re: #57 Anymouse

Last summer, we looked at this sign and said “nah.” (We’d planned to cross the border at Fort Frances.) Continued on around Lake Superior and Lake Huron instead.

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If you ever swing by Superior way again, stop in. My doors are always open to Lizardim, and I’ll buy a round for most all y’all if you’re driving within an hour or so of the Twin Cities.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:57:04pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Scott Baio.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 6:58:09pm

re: #61 thedopefishlives

If you ever swing by Superior way again, stop in. My doors are always open to Lizardim, and I’ll buy a round for most all y’all if you’re driving within an hour or so of the Twin Cities.

You’re on then. Our trip to Yukon also includes returning via Michigan and Chicago (a slight detour).

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Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:02:16pm

Chinese Workers at Factory for Ivanka Trump’s Clothing Maker Earn About $62 a Week: Report

Raisa Bruner
7:52 PM ET

A new report by a watchdog group found the Chinese knitting factory used by a company that makes clothing for Ivanka Trump’s brand has poor conditions and pay, with workers putting in up to 60 hours a week for wages of about $62 weekly.

The factory violated two dozen standards set by the U.N. International Labor Organization when it was inspected this fall by the Fair Labor Association, an industry watchdog, the Washington Post reports.

time.com

Trump is horrible but his children are worse.

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austin_blue  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:02:32pm

For those of you on the left coast, American Experience is running a show on the Damascus, Arkysaw Titan missile explosion right now on NPR. You should watch it.

It’s killer bee.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:02:43pm

re: #38 Belafon

that $400k could buy two people a yearly membership at Mar-a-Lago

That would be a world-class troll by the Obamas.

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Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:03:06pm

re: #60 Anymouse

He won’t so it’s a moot point.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:03:50pm

re: #65 austin_blue

For those of you on the left coast, American Experience is running a show on the Damascus, Arkysaw Titan missile explosion right now on NPR. You should watch it.

It’s killer bee.

My wife is watching it since she’s from Arkansas.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:04:37pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Emma Stone

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thedopefishlives  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:05:02pm

re: #69 Stanley Sea

Emma Stone

No, because I actually like her.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:05:19pm

LOL …

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:06:10pm

re: #65 austin_blue

For those of you on the left coast, American Experience is running a show on the Damascus, Arkysaw Titan missile explosion right now on NPR. You should watch it.

It’s killer bee.

Command and Control? I’ve heard it’s good.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:07:04pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

[wingnut]IT WAS NOT!! IT WAS ABOUT STATES’ RIGHTS!!![.wingnut]

Nnnnnnnnnnope. The Constitution of the Confederacy itself shows that to be arrant bullshit:

Article I Section 9(4) - No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

The Confederacy was just as opposed to allowing states to decide whether to legalize slavery, they were just on the opposite side of the question.

Also, the Fugitive Slave Act says “hi”.

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:07:44pm

re: #72 William Lewis

Command and Control? I’ve heard it’s good.

It is.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:08:35pm

re: #70 thedopefishlives

No, because I actually like her.

She could totally pull it.

Y’all suck. I loved Madonna then, I love her now.

Madonna - Like A Prayer

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:08:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:12:03pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

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But he’s good for business! //

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:14:07pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

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Wilbur Ross, commerce sec - not sure how he relates to commercial construction.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:16:47pm
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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:19:30pm

For at least two years I’ve had problems with my internet connection (through Cox.)

Across multiple versions of MacOS the same problem has manifested.

They assigned IP (gotten through the DHCP method) randomly reverts to one of the reserved local blocks (i.e. 192.soforth .)

I don’t know why. Cox claims it isn’t them. ( I still doubt that.) Nothing I do on my Mac seems to make this problem permanently go away.

It existed before I used any VPN software and it exists after I’ve experimented with some.

It existed over 3 versions of MacOS.

It’s maddening especially tonight, when it seems my IP address stays for only a minute or so before going belly up.

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:21:48pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

Wilbur Ross, commerce sec - not sure how he relates to commercial construction.

I wouldn’t think Ross could tell a 2x4 from a sheet of plywood, but I could be totally wrong.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:22:25pm

Thought Trump wasn’t going to telegraph military maneuvers/plans?!

US military reportedly begins moving THAAD missile defense system into South Korea site

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:23:53pm

re: #82 GlutenFreeJesus

Thought Trump wasn’t going to telegraph military maneuvers/plans?!

US military reportedly begins moving THAAD missile defense system into South Korea site

He’s using couriers and carrier pigeons.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:24:56pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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The hilarious bit? Limbaugh’s already beginning the process of convincing the rubes that Trump has abandoned his pledge to build the wall.

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petesh  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:26:28pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

The hilarious bit? Limbaugh’s already beginning the process of convincing the rubes that Trump has abandoned his pledge to build the wall.

Is Rusty complaining about this, or explaining it?

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:27:40pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

Wilbur Ross, commerce sec - not sure how he relates to commercial construction.

WL Ross & Co. LLC, U.S.-China Green Fund and China Merchants Finance Holdings Co., Ltd. to Form Strategic Partnership to Invest in the Chinese Steel Sector
bloomberg.com

Maybe he’s trying to get home builders to switch to steel studs.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:28:34pm

“… based on data from research firm BoardEx, Ross is still a member of at least five public company boards: ArcelorMittal SA, the world largest steel company, the Bank of Cyprus, Exco Resources Inc., Sun National Bank and a special purpose acquisition company for WL Ross”
valuewalk.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:29:11pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

The hilarious bit? Limbaugh’s already beginning the process of convincing the rubes that Trump has abandoned his pledge to build the wall.

You knew that Limbaugh would get tired of being an apologist for Trump. It’s much easier for him to bitch about Democrats.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:29:21pm

Most corrupt administration in U.S. history.

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:30:35pm

re: #86 jaunte

Maybe he’s trying to get home builders to switch to steel studs.

That will make it harder to put up a shelf.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:30:47pm

re: #85 petesh

Is Rusty complaining about this, or explaining it?

He’s telling the yokels that Trump has “caved” on the wall funding and that Democrats will go forward knowing they can get him to do so by just threatening to shutdown the gov’t. It’s the hilarious bit where wingnuts think that if Trump chooses to force a shutdown over the funding, Democrats will be the ones who take the brunt of the blame.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:30:50pm

re: #89 jaunte

Most corrupt administration in U.S. history.

And they’ve only been at this for 3 months.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:30:52pm

re: #89 jaunte

Most corrupt administration in U.S. history.

I’m not a history buff to the point of knowing all the presidential scandals, but Trump does seem to have taken this on has his true challenge.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:31:18pm
At North Korea’s Mount Taehwa, groomed slopes snake down wooded hillsides to a luxurious hotel, but the runs are empty #NorthKorea

Notice the deference to the dear leader. Fuckface Von Clownstick would consider his life complete if he could achieve something like that. Maybe why he wants to destroy Kim Jong-un and his regime, he’s very very jealous.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:31:27pm

re: #93 Belafon

I’m not a history buff to the point of knowing all the presidential scandals, but Trump does seem to have taken this on has his true challenge.

He’s definitely up there.

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:31:31pm

re: #85 petesh

Is Rusty complaining about this, or explaining it?

Complaining. Freepers weren’t happy about that, but I can’t (easily) find that topic again because the search function at FR sucks.

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Interesting Times  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:33:02pm
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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:33:15pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

And they’ve only been at this for 3 months.

Seems like I’m calling it early, but they’re truly motivated.

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Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:35:43pm

re: #98 jaunte

It’s not as though Trump had to do anything different from what he’s done his entire life. This is already the most corrupt administration in US history and they’re just getting settled in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:36:24pm

Okay, I have a deal to suggest - let people choose! They like choice, right? Health freedom and all that? You get to choose whether to pay premiums based on the original Obamacare’s “Community Rating”, or you can pay premiums based on individual rating, so if you’re young and have no preexisting conditions, your premiums are way lower!

Just one little catch - if you choose the latter, it only pays for doctor visits, preventive care, etc. No major medical. You get cancer? Well, pal, you should have thought of that before you chose the cheapo plan!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:38:25pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

That is eerily similar to the ski resorts in Kazakhistan.

Dictatorship is so theatrical, so much about gestures and appearances: I mean, all politics is, but autocrats in particular have to stake everything on that sense of connection between charismatic figure and loyal mass. Not that they’re even trying for true loyalty, but just enough “gifts” and showy activities to make people feel connected, invested. Makes my head hurt.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:38:59pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

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Okay, I have a deal to suggest - let people choose! They like choice, right? Health freedom and all that? You get to choose whether to pay premiums based on the original Obamacare’s “Community Rating”, or you can pay premiums based on individual rating, so if you’re young and have no preexisting conditions, your premiums are way lower!

Just one little catch - if you choose the latter, it only pays for doctor visits, preventive care, etc. No major medical. You get cancer? Well, pal, you should have thought of that before you chose the cheapo plan!

That’s a lot like pre-ACA. People need to stop thinking of care as something you choose at Walgreens late at night when your significant other has a cold. The healthy pay in to help the sick so that when they’re no longer healthy, the younger healthy are paying into it.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:40:23pm

re: #82 GlutenFreeJesus

Thought Trump wasn’t going to telegraph military maneuvers/plans?!

US military reportedly begins moving THAAD missile defense system into South Korea site

Where they’re going…
But of course

Lotte Skyhill Seongju Country Club - 36°02’57.7”N 128°13’34.4”E

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:42:53pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon

But, but NRA headquarters is in DC! They would simply grab their muskets AR-15s and join other patriots to meet the invaders, much as the heroic militia did in 1814 at the Battle of Bladensburg. Militia performance there led a British officer to quip, “Rarely have men with arms in their hands made better use of their legs.”

The battle was termed “the greatest disgrace ever dealt to American arms” and “the most humiliating episode in American history”. The American militia actually fled through the streets of Washington. President James Madison and most of the rest of the federal government had been present at the battle, and had nearly been captured. They too fled the capital, and scattered through Maryland and Virginia. That same night the British entered Washington unopposed and set fire to many of the government buildings in what became known as the Burning of Washington.

105
teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:44:54pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

For a more in-depth look into skiing in North Korea, check this out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:46:45pm

re: #102 Belafon

That’s a lot like pre-ACA. People need to stop thinking of care as something you choose at Walgreens late at night when your significant other has a cold. The healthy pay in to help the sick so that when they’re no longer healthy, the younger healthy are paying into it.

It’s intentionally like the pre-ACA. They Freedom Caucus hates Community Rating because, I suppose, it doesn’t punish people enough for getting sick. I could see them really liking my plan, because at least half their fun in wanting ‘freedom’ is sneering at people who then make poor choices.

Remember a year or so ago when they were telling young people they didn’t need health insurance? Well, of course they don’t! Nobody does, till they do! And if young people en masse had taken that advice and not gotten health insurance, the Freedom Caucus types would get to point at them and call them irresponsible for not having health insurance.

I try not to hate people. Really, really I do! But those fuckers make it SO DIFFICULT!!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:48:25pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Okay, I have a deal to suggest - let people choose! They like choice, right? Health freedom and all that? You get to choose whether to pay premiums based on the original Obamacare’s “Community Rating”, or you can pay premiums based on individual rating, so if you’re young and have no preexisting conditions, your premiums are way lower!

Just one little catch - if you choose the latter, it only pays for doctor visits, preventive care, etc. No major medical. You get cancer? Well, pal, you should have thought of that before you chose the cheapo plan!

That’s basically what they’re trying to do at this point, get us back to the cheapo “bare bones” plans that they could sell to the unwashed masses. Convince them that for pennies a day, they were getting this “great” plan that would cover them in their time of need, only for them to wheel out the “You didn’t read the fine print” bit when it came time to actually make a claim for a major medical event. And they’re pushing an anti-choicer style play by allowing insurers to charge the sick more, which will act as a defacto return to the era of “pre-existing conditions.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:48:56pm

That moment when you realize ten seconds in the morning completely ruined your day.
I was watching the end of a police pursuit, the car came to a cul de sac, turned around and slowly rolled in the direction of police trying to get around them, They fired, driver dead. Just like that. Got too close of a view. News chopper telephoto.

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:49:51pm

re: #108 Unshaken Defiance

Ugh. Sorry!

110
freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:51:03pm

re: #108 Unshaken Defiance

Eeek. So they broadcast it on TV?

111
FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:51:09pm

“…Conservative activist James O’Keefe and his investigative film group, Project Veritas, released secretly recorded and selectively edited video footage in October of Wisconsin-based liberal operative Scott Foval boasting about connections to the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Foval appears to say he had arranged for people, including some who are mentally ill, to incite violence at Trump rallies….”

Poor little Jimmy, no one takes his videos at face value anymore…

“…Wisconsin’s Republican attorney general, Brad Schimel, said shortly after the videos were released that he was concerned they suggest election and voter fraud.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel obtained a Jan. 31 DOJ memo discussing the videos through an open records request. In the memo, Assistant Attorney General Roy Korte concludes the statements in the videos are vague and lack context. Supplemental videos the DOJ obtained are also vague and do nothing to clear up the ambiguous nature of the original recordings, Korte said.

“Based on all the available facts I do not believe there is any basis to conclude that the videos demonstrate or suggest violations of Wisconsin law,” Korte wrote….”

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:51:41pm

re: #108 Unshaken Defiance

Sorry. Never easy to see.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:54:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:55:54pm

re: #108 Unshaken Defiance

Is there a link?

I swear my first thought was dude is running because of warrants for unpaid fines. Or undocumented.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:57:14pm

Corn on the cob for dinner!

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 7:59:20pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

Yum! Three basic food groups: vegetable, butter and salt!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:01:29pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

Photos of Uday and Qusay would suffice too.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:03:09pm

re: #116 retired cynic

Yum! Three basic food groups: vegetable, butter and salt!

I’m roasting it in the oven with a butter chili mix!!!

Pissed I ran out of tajin.

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:04:25pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

I’m roasting it in the oven with a butter chili mix!!!

Pissed I ran out of tajin.

Sounds good, but I’m a simple soul.

120
Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:05:56pm

And I’m watching the latest ep of Better Call Saul.

I’ll survive this Tuesday dammit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:06:01pm

re: #117 GlutenFreeJesus

Dammit. Jumped down the rabbit hole and found this.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:09:18pm

re: #110 freetoken

Yes they did.

123
FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:09:51pm

“You lived like a star, you leave like a star.” The husband of the policeman murdered last week in Paris delivers an emotional eulogy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:10:04pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

Stolen car.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:10:06pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

And I’m watching the latest ep of Better Call Saul.

I’ll survive this Tuesday dammit.

Confession: every time Pollos Hermanos comes up, I really want a recipe for the chicken and salsa.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:11:25pm

wonkette.com

4chan trying to spread memes insinuating Emmanuel Macron is involved in incest, to throw the French run-off election to Marine Le Pen.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:12:07pm

re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus

That’s awesome!

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BeachDem  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:12:25pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

1. States could let insurers charge sick more if they have high-risk pool.

Right there—the old “if you get sick, die quickly” plan, because high-risk pools are and always have been totally out of reach for not just poor people, but everyone except rich people, who won’t need them anyway. What a crock o’shit.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:12:27pm

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel

But, but NRA headquarters is in DC! They would simply grab their muskets AR-15s and join other patriots to meet the invaders, much as the heroic militia did in 1814 at the Battle of Bladensburg. Militia performance there led a British officer to quip, “Rarely have men with arms in their hands made better use of their legs.”

Thankfully we also had the example of Scott at the Battle of Chippawa. “Regulars, by God”.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:13:46pm

re: #128 BeachDem

Right there—the old “if you get sick, die quickly” plan, because high-risk pools are and always have been totally out of reach for not just poor people, but everyone except rich people, who won’t need them anyway. What a crock o’shit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:23:24pm

re: #128 BeachDem

Right there—the old “if you get sick, die quickly” plan, because high-risk pools are and always have been totally out of reach for not just poor people, but everyone except rich people, who won’t need them anyway. What a crock o’shit.

That’s what my RW brother preaches: we will solve health care problems by having insurance companies cover healthy people (and make a killing doing that, of course) and the government will provide for sick people!!

132
Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:24:59pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s what my RW brother preaches: we will solve health care problems by having insurance companies cover healthy people (and make a killing doing that, of course) and the government will provide for sick people!!

Except the Republican plan has no real government role in covering the sick.

133
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:25:55pm

re: #132 Belafon

Except the Republican plan has no real government role in covering the sick.

That would require more than the poor and lower middle class to pay taxes.

134
Teukka  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:27:04pm

re: #126 Anymouse

wonkette.com

4chan trying to spread memes insinuating Emmanuel Macron is involved in incest, to throw the French run-off election to Marine Le Pen.

[Embedded content]

And the trolls using UN-freakin’-CENSORED pictures of the late Ebba Åkerlund, 11 years old, one of the victims of the terrorist attack.
Speaks volumes about just how damaged these trolls are, doesn’t it?

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:27:42pm
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BeachDem  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:31:49pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s what my RW brother preaches: we will solve health care problems by having insurance companies cover healthy people (and make a killing doing that, of course) and the government will provide for sick people!!

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:36:42pm

re: #136 BeachDem

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:40:12pm

re: #135 Kragar

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:41:10pm

re: #137 retired cynic

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Joe Bacon  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:42:11pm

re: #135 Kragar

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The same assholes who whine about Obama being paid for speeches are curiously silent when St. Pruneface Ronnie got a couple million dollars for a series of speeches in Japan!

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:42:49pm

re: #139 Anymouse

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:44:03pm

UC put up a video on the current fads in drugs:

Street Drugs: What’s Out There and Just How Bad is It?

The power of the carbon molecule!

143
teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:44:11pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon

The same assholes who whine about Obama being paid for speeches are curiously silent when St. Pruneface Ronnie got a couple million dollars for a series of speeches in Japan!

Capitalism for thee, but not for that usurper Kenyan Muslim with the tranny “wife”.

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:47:43pm

re: #139 Anymouse

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:49:52pm

re: #144 calochortus

I think we could be open about that! I think we should have single payer, medicare for all, or whatever works the best. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.

146
mmmirele  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:49:59pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

I’m sorry, I still have good feelings for Beavis and Butt-head. Please call those two sons of Trump Uday and Qusay. Please.

147
Kragar  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:50:10pm
148
jaunte  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:50:45pm

Oddly Alex Jones-like character Tuck Buckford just made a reappearance on Colbert’s show.

149
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:51:36pm

It would appear wingnuts are all over social media blaring this coddleswop out:

washingtonfeed.com

“Trey Gowdy Breaks His Silence after Two of His Investigators Are Found Tortured and Killed”

I’m ready for President Obama’s reëducation camps now: Apparently we need them.

Two federalized deputies working for Trey Gowdy were discovered tortured and killed recently while on their way to serve a search warrant on the Clinton Presidential library. The details of the crime are sketchy but one thing is certain: whoever pulled it off is a pro who left absolutely no evidence behind.

Mr. Gowdy, who has had little to nothing to say on the matter for security reasons, released a statement from his office where he is currently holed up under the protection of US Marshals:

More at the link if you are interested (don’t bother, I took a hit for the team)

150
retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:52:40pm

re: #149 Anymouse

Dog.

151
Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:54:55pm

re: #149 Anymouse

Is this one of those articles that’s so out there that it’s now safe to wonder if Trey Gowdy is a real person?

152
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:56:08pm

re: #144 calochortus

re: #145 retired cynic

Surely we could as the wealthiest nation in the history of the world afford healthcare for all (whether it is some form of “Medicare for all” or a better-funded and expanded Public Health Service).

There is no reason for people to go without decent healthcare in our country than unmitigated greed. My sister and her wife are getting crushed with my sister-in-law’s cancer treatments - she’s set up a GoFundMe account which has received a small sum. (No one should have to beg for healthcare either.)

In my sister’s case, the healthcare bills are destroying their ability to stay in Berkeley: They are planning to leave California because healthcare/cost of living do not match up. (They make many times more than my disability.)

153
Kragar  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:56:28pm
154
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:59:13pm

re: #153 Kragar

Extraordinary in its lack of comprehension about separation of powers and the IV Amendment.

No city or state is required to enforce Federal laws (that would be those unfunded mandates conservatives allegedly despise), and no city or state jurisdiction is required to do anything for the Federal government without a warrant.

Weakening IV Amendment protections does not just hurt undocumented migrants: That would hurt everyone.

155
retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:59:23pm

re: #153 Kragar

Jaw hit floor. These guys!

156
Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 8:59:31pm

re: #153 Kragar

“continue our efforts to ramp up enforcement to remove criminal and gang element from our country.”

I’m glad he’s finally going to take on sovereign citizen movements, but where’s he going to send them?

//

157
calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:01:45pm

re: #145 retired cynic

I think we could be open about that! I think we should have single payer, medicare for all, or whatever works the best. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.

Yes, we could. I was just too lazy to not hit “reply.”
I’m trying to track down a couple names of spouses of people Mr. C. knows. I’m trying to send invitations, he’s not home and I can’t really do “Sue Smith and husband” or “John Jones and, oh yeah, your wife.” I should just wait until he gets home, but he may not know if “Doug” has the same last name as his wife or not. Gah.

158
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:01:56pm

How many “single unelected judges” do they think are appropriate? Ten? Fifty? None?

I am really tired of the fascism-love coming out of the Executive Branch and the GOP in the House and Senate, along with a large part of the press, treating this as if it is simply political games.

159
retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:02:42pm

re: #158 Anymouse

How many “single unelected judges” do they think are appropriate? Ten? Fifty? None?

I am really tired of the fascism-love coming out of the Executive Branch and the GOP in the House and Senate, along with a large part of the press, treating this as if it is simply political games.

It is NOT NORMAL!

160
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:02:57pm

re: #156 Belafon

“continue our efforts to ramp up enforcement to remove criminal and gang element from our country.”

I’m glad he’s finally going to take on sovereign citizen movements, but where’s he going to send them?

//

Malheur Wildlife Refuge? Bunkerville, Nevada? Florence ADX?

161
BeachDem  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:03:53pm

re: #149 Anymouse

Snopes:

RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In April 2017, the entertainment web site The Last Line of Defense published a series of false articles concerning U.S. Representative Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), a criminal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and multiple mysterious deaths.

The Last Line of Defense is an entertainment web site with a penchant for fake news. The web site, which has a long history of publishing misinformation, carries a disclaimer labeling its content as satirical:

snopes.com

Wingers will swallow anything.

162
Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:04:58pm

re: #152 Anymouse

Surely we could as the wealthiest nation in the history of the world afford healthcare for all (whether it is some form of “Medicare for all” or a better-funded and expanded Public Health Service).

There is no reason for people to go without decent healthcare in our country than unmitigated greed.

Except that would actually require the 1% to pay their fair share of taxes. And we know that any Republican tax “reform” will reduce the “burden” on the “poor” rich and instead raise taxes on the unworthy poor. The main rationale for attacks on the ACA is to reduce taxes on the wealthy, who are now forced to pay additional taxes to support the program

Of course, if Trump serves a complete term, we may no longer be the wealthiest nation in the world and may actually no longer have the resources to provide such benefits.

163
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:05:31pm

I’m about to the point where, despite not having a village marshal (someone want a job? doesn’t pay but you get to wear a badge marked “marshal” and carry cuffs and a blackjack), that I want to introduce a resolution declaring my village a “sanctuary city” at the next board meeting.

Just for the trolling value. I’ll sign it myself and send it to the President.

164
Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:06:13pm

Gotta love Republicans: vox.com:

House Republicans appear to have included a provision that exempts Members of Congress and their staff from their latest health care plan.

The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping this Obamacare regulations. Health law expert Tim Jost flagged me to this particular issue.

165
Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:07:21pm

re: #161 BeachDem

I was aware the article is a fake. I was just noting it appears to be popping up on wingnut feeds.

The Internet sure turned out to be a double sword. Information at the world’s fingertips, and the biggest propaganda tool ever devised.

166
calochortus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:10:17pm

Good night, Lizards. Hasta mañana.

167
FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:10:22pm

Me, I’d start wondering if there was a kid stuck down a well or something…

Hilarious Dog Throws Tantrum at Beach

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:11:58pm

re: #166 calochortus

Good night, Lizards. Hasta mañana.

Goodnight, Calochortus flower-person. I’m off to bed, too. I have a long drive to hopefully pick up Felix Strangelet Randomkitty in the morning.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:12:59pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

WTF is wrong with their mouths? Do they not shut? It’s not like they’re smiling or anything.

Are you familiar with HP Lovecraft, the Innsmouth cultists?

That’s what’s wrong, it was non-fiction.

170
The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:15:45pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

Innsmouth is as Innsmouth does.

171
Cheechako  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:11:37pm

re: #158 Anymouse

How many “single unelected judges” do they think are appropriate? Ten? Fifty? None?

I am really tired of the fascism-love coming out of the Executive Branch and the GOP in the House and Senate, along with a large part of the press, treating this as if it is simply political games.

Actually Federal Judges are not “Unelected”. They are elected by a vote in the Senate.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:51:08am

re: #149 Anymouse

Coddleswop

Not to be pedantic, but isn’t the word actually ‘codswallop?’


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Nightmare at PDX In all, Cristina was held for 48 hours with the jail population, though she had committed no crime. She was treated poorly, and denied medical treatment when she requested it. She had no money in her jail phone account ...
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First-Ever Sex Discrimination Legal Network Is Ready to Defend Women in Trump’s America Shortly after the election, the attorneys and advocates who work at the National Women’s Law Center (NWLC) started having a conversation. It seemed that the incoming Trump administration was likely to move backward on enforcing civil rights, loosening regulations, ...
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Meet Rhiannon Giddens, Newly Minted MacArthur ‘Genius’ As a solo artist — and, before that, as a member of the Carolina Chocolate Drops — singer-songwriter Rhiannon Giddens has made a career out of revitalizing and invigorating decades' worth of music reflecting the African-American experience. That's meant ...
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Lies About Black America Are ‘Central’ to Gun Ownership: A Reporter on What We Get Wrong About Gun Violence Lies that the GOP and Donald Trump promote all day long. “If you look at the neighborhoods where [gun violence] is most clustered,” Beckett said, it’s located in areas with high levels of poverty, low levels of education, and ...
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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official) Watch the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi and see it in theaters December 15. Get your tickets now: fandango.com Visit Star Wars at starwars.comSubscribe to Star Wars on YouTube at youtube.comLike Star Wars on Facebook at ...
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Brazil Branches of US-Based Church Target of Numerous Probes Church Based human trafficking and forced labor -- it's just religious freedom in action.../// When workers made a mistake, such as cutting a frame too short, she says they were screamed at and sometimes even hit to expunge the ...
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