Tuesday Night Acoustic Guitar Excellence: Trevor Gordon Hall, “Midnight and Raining”

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“The Discipline of Curiosity” and “Midnight and Raining” from the album entitled “Mind Heart Fingers”.

Recorded LIVE at 20 Front Street (20frontstreet.com) in Lake Orion MI on March 25th 2017.

Video: Clément Ducasse facebook.com
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Spotify: tinyurl.com
Physical CD: cdbaby.com
Guitar: Sheldon Schwartz schwartzguitars.com
Strings: D’Addario Nickel Phosphor Bronze tinyurl.com
Reverb: Digitech Polara tinyurl.com
Contact: trevorgordonhall.com OR facebook.com

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1
Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:09:17pm

From previous thread:

Gotta love Republicans: vox.com:

House Republicans appear to have included a provision that exempts Members of Congress and their staff from their latest health care plan.

The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping this Obamacare regulations. Health law expert Tim Jost flagged me to this particular issue.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:10:50pm

UC also put up a video of Tippi Hedren that touches on Hitchcock:

Expanded Hitchcock: The Birds

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:12:54pm

Repeating a post from downstairs, UC also put up a video on new fad drugs:

Street Drugs: What’s Out There and Just How Bad is It?

For some reason (of which I can only speculate), the opioid epidemic has become a favorite topic of Republicans and Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:13:31pm
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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:17:55pm

re: #3 freetoken

Repeating a post from downstairs, UC also put up a video on new fad drugs:

For some reason (of which I can only speculate), the opioid epidemic has become a favorite topic of Republicans and Trump.

Need to fill up those prisons. War on Drugs, y’know.

Every time I cross the Canadian border into Saskatchewan, I get asked if I know the street name of my epilepsy meds (Phenobarbital). I have no idea if it even has a street name, and why would I care since I get it from the VA?

That said, if states keep using it for the death penalty, the EU will cut off its sale in the USA (one of the unsung things President Obama did was reverse such a decision after Ohio and Virginia used it for exactly that, early in his first term).

I have a right to life that death penalty worshippers want to take away. I’m guessing Donald Trump would not intervene as Barack Obama did.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:18:21pm

So many livestreams… so little time.

At least the Durango live stream has music:

Durango, Colorado, USA

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:19:51pm

This is an absolutely mesmerising guitar piece, Mr. Johnson (and I am not a big guitar fan). Thank you for sharing it here. (Your impeccable taste in less-known musicians is one of the reasons I’m here.)

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Joe Bacon  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:29:08pm

re: #2 freetoken

She’s a wonderful lady! Thanks for sharing!

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:45:43pm

re: #6 freetoken

So many livestreams… so little time.

At least the Durango live stream has music:

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I was born in Durango, CO!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:46:15pm
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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:47:49pm

re: #10 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Wow! Now there’s an exposé!

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:51:19pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

I was born in Durango, CO!

Apparently the home of obscure 45 rockabilly/R&B, according the livestream.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:52:23pm

re: #11 retired cynic

Wow! Now there’s an exposé!

It’s a good thing they’re on top of it. Otherwise the dastardly fiends might have gotten away with it!

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:52:50pm

You know what I just found out?

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Hmmm… I wonder if they cut any scenes….

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:53:10pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:53:40pm

re: #10 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Never underestimate the power of the Manwich.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:54:24pm

re: #16 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Never underestimate the power of the Manwich.

I now am picturing all of life as a giant Scooby Doo episode.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:54:38pm

re: #10 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Powerful Gay Witches? Is that what they are calling Republicans now?

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:54:52pm

re: #10 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Now, we all know of the “Cultural Marxism!” meme. And those of us who studied history knows how it’s basically a repackaged and refurbished Kulturbolschevismus.
Now, if I was to raise the question whether the “gay lobby! Gaystapo!” meme is a repackaged and refurbed version of “Sexual bolshevism”, how far off the mark would I be?

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:54:54pm

I’ll let curiosity get the best of you all…

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:56:08pm

re: #17 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So…you’re picturing the world accurately?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:56:45pm

re: #21 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

So…you’re picturing the world accurately?

Wake me up when the meddling kids manage to capture Trump to have him hauled off for his crimes.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 9:56:59pm

re: #21 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The Scooby Snack was the original Red Pill.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:00:48pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

I’ll let curiosity get the best of you all…

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Gave me a thought:

Maybe men wouldn’t be so opposed to abortion if women’s wombs were transparent.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:01:37pm
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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:03:41pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

And he attacked first: “Are you a Jew?”

Is the guy an anti-Semite? How is that relevant to the exchange otherwise?

Someone ought to send that Twitter exchange to his opponent in the Virginia gubernatorial election. Might make a good advert.

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:08:36pm

re: #26 Anymouse

HW needs to have that. He’s volunteering for Periello, I think. (Spelling may be off!)

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:11:06pm
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TedStriker  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:12:15pm

re: #26 Anymouse

And he attacked first: “Are you a Jew?”

Is the guy an anti-Semite? How is that relevant to the exchange otherwise?

Someone ought to send that Twitter exchange to his opponent in the Virginia gubernatorial election. Might make a good advert.

TBH, it was “Fashy Frog” (nick says it all right there) that said “Are you a Jew?” to Laura Lippman, not Stewart

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:13:41pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

That poor man must struggle to navigate a world full of tubes and cavities. The constant arousal must be draining vital resources from his brain meat functioning.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:14:22pm

Rabbits in my backyard keep turning on my motion-sensor light. My neighbour called to complain.

I shut the light off, because firing a shotgun in town at rabbits is against village ordinances. (Pesky regulations, prohibit hunting inside the city limits - plus my neighbours would get bent out of shape over a shotgun at 11PM for some reason. /s.)

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:18:01pm

Despite Alex Jones being sued for defamation by Chobani, Alex Jones still has his video alleging Chobani is sponsoring rapists and “diseased immigrants with tuberculosis” up:

MSM Covers For Globalist’s Refugee Import Program After Child Rape Case

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:22:55pm

Alex Jones responds to “George Soros funded Chobani lawsuit,” calling him a Nazi collaborator and Islamist, trying to take down InfoWars.

I’m pretty sure George Soros isn’t involved in this.

Alex Jones Responds To Chobani / Soros Backed Lawsuit

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TedStriker  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:24:50pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

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Love this one:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:28:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:34:52pm

re: #31 Anymouse

Rabbits in my backyard keep turning on my motion-sensor light. My neighbour called to complain.

I shut the light off, because firing a shotgun in town at rabbits is against village ordinances. (Pesky regulations, prohibit hunting inside the city limits - plus my neighbours would get bent out of shape over a shotgun at 11PM for some reason. /s.)

Get a CZ 455 and find a Class 3 dealer in your area who will sell you a suppressor. Your local LEO will have to sign off on the suppressor application but your area is so conservative it’s probably a slam dunk. I’d absolutely buy one if I lived out there, one of the relative perks of living in red state rural land.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:36:09pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

I called “Fashy Frog” a “stupid Nazi frog” and got admonished by Twitter with 12 hour probation where my Twitter privileges will be limited. Not sure what that means, everything seems the same.

Is “Fashy” his cute way of saying fascist? If so I almost literally called him by his name. Fucking stupid brain dead obtuse Twitter standards.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:37:06pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:40:33pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

Not exclusive to one person. It’s a new “thing” they’re doing.

(I can remember “fashy” being used in British English circa / post- WW2, but that was generally as an insult)

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:42:10pm

re: #33 Anymouse

George Soros is always involved, because he’s the acceptable target on which anti-Semitic conspiracy theories can be projected.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:42:46pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

I called “Fashy Frog” a “stupid Nazi frog” and got admonished by Twitter with 12 hour probation where my Twitter privileges will be limited. Not sure what that means, everything seems the same.

Is “Fashy” his cute way of saying fascist? If so I almost literally called him by his name. Fucking stupid brain dead obtuse Twitter standards.

It means Twitter’s system for dealing with abuse is mostly complaint driven and automated. It’s really not worth engaging accounts like that when the people behind them have learned how to use bots to game the system. They’ll take your reply and have hundreds of other accounts instantly flood Twitter with complaints labeling it as abusive, at which time the algorithm kicks in and suspends you without a human ever seeing what happened.

Just block them and move on.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:46:52pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

I figured it was something like that. Not sure what this 12 he punishment is because I can still use Twitter the same, not sure what they are “limiting”0

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:57:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 10:58:50pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

I figured it was something like that. Not sure what this 12 he punishment is because I can still use Twitter the same, not sure what they are “limiting”0

During the 12 hours the only people who will be able to see your tweets are those who are already following you.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:23:34pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Get a CZ 455 and find a Class 3 dealer in your area who will sell you a suppressor. Your local LEO will have to sign off on the suppressor application but your area is so conservative it’s probably a slam dunk. I’d absolutely buy one if I lived out there, one of the relative perks of living in red state rural land.

Village ordinances prohibit using firearms inside the city limits. I also could not possibly shoot all the rabbits that come in my yard.

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Anymouse  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:26:18pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

I called “Fashy Frog” a “stupid Nazi frog” and got admonished by Twitter with 12 hour probation where my Twitter privileges will be limited. Not sure what that means, everything seems the same.

Is “Fashy” his cute way of saying fascist? If so I almost literally called him by his name. Fucking stupid brain dead obtuse Twitter standards.

The libertarians who own Twitter are at this point fascist collaborators in my opinion. They do not shut down Nazi accounts but suspend or shut down those who call Nazis out.

I would not use Twitter if I were paid the Powerball payout. Twitter’s Nazi collaboration is no better than Facebook’s snuff film channel (Facebook Live) at this point.

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:33:55pm

re: #46 Anymouse

The libertarians who own Twitter are at this point fascist collaborators in my opinion. They do not shut down Nazi accounts but suspend or shut down those who call Nazis out.

I would not use Twitter if I were paid the Powerball payout. Twitter’s Nazi collaboration is no better than Facebook’s snuff film channel (Facebook Live) at this point.

Damn dawg!

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:35:20pm

Twitter and Facebook aren’t pure enough for enlightened motherfuckers to use.

BRB, deleting my Twitter and Facebook …

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:39:31pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Upswing for CZ!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2017 • 11:56:07pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

Upswing for CZ!

I really want an Anschutz but unfortunately am not made of money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 12:12:55am

re: #9 teleskiguy

I was born in Durango, CO!

I used to vacation there with the family and have friends living there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 12:15:19am

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Get a CZ 455 and find a Class 3 dealer in your area who will sell you a suppressor. Your local LEO will have to sign off on the suppressor application but your area is so conservative it’s probably a slam dunk. I’d absolutely buy one if I lived out there, one of the relative perks of living in red state rural land.

I recommend the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. It comes in a non-ecclesiastical version with smite suppressor.

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BigPapa  Apr 26, 2017 • 1:04:43am

Ladies of the Patriarchy

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2017 • 1:29:59am

Some early Wednesday morning insanity.

Donner Road Gap Backflip

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 26, 2017 • 1:34:53am

Naturally, slaver apologists are starting to hit back. This is a colorized version of a famous Matthew Brady image from the Battle of Antietam. It shows Confederate dead in a sunken road next to the infamous Cornfield. As far as I know the Antietam monuments are quite safe from removal or destruction.

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William Lewis  Apr 26, 2017 • 1:47:29am

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

Naturally, slaver apologists are starting to hit back. This is a colorized version of a famous Matthew Brady image from the Battle of Antietam. It shows Confederate dead in a sunken road next to the infamous Cornfield. As far as I know the Antietam monuments are quite safe from removal or destruction.

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Were I inclined, I’d edit that meme to “These men were traitors and their commanders should have been hanged.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:06:40am

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

Naturally, slaver apologists are starting to hit back. This is a colorized version of a famous Matthew Brady image from the Battle of Antietam. It shows Confederate dead in a sunken road next to the infamous Cornfield. As far as I know the Antietam monuments are quite safe from removal or destruction.

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To them, it is the same as ISIS blowing up Christian churches.

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Lupin  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:16:14am

The French are fighting back against Putin’s hackers:

Daily Beast article

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:37:44am

re: #53 BigPapa

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We need Menlania, Ivanka, Kellyanne C, Katrina Person, etc., as men

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:44:06am

re: #53 BigPapa

That’s…beyond creepy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:46:10am

re: #60 Timothy Watson

That’s…beyond creepy.

I hate to admit that if I did not know better, I would find a couple of them somewhat attractive…

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:47:45am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hate to admit that if I did not know better, I would find a couple of them somewhat attractive…

Yeah…that’s what made it “beyond creepy” to me.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:50:05am
T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

— George Henry Thomas, November 1868.

Like Lee, General Thomas was a Virginian. Unlike Lee, he stayed loyal to the United States during the Civil War and paid the price, not one of his blood relatives showed up for his funeral in 1870. He was not popular, even in the North, during or immediately after the war, but present day historians think very highly of him.

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William Lewis  Apr 26, 2017 • 2:59:55am

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Like Lee, General Thomas was a Virginian. Unlike Lee, he stayed loyal to the United States during the Civil War and paid the price, not one of his blood relatives showed up for his funeral in 1870. He was not popular, even in the North, during or immediately after the war, but present day historians think very highly of him.

He was one of the top 3 generals of the war. Only Grant and Winfield Scott (yes, old fuss & feathers - his anaconda strategy is what won the war) were more important to the Union cause.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:06:05am

The legendary Winfield Scott was still in command of the US Army at the beginning of the Civil War. He was also a Virginian but it apparently never even crossed his mind to desert to the enemy. Past 70 and suffering from a variety of health problems, he knew that he was not up to wartime command and soon retired. He did stay long enough to work out the Anaconda Plan for strangling the rebel south, and lived long enough to see the Union win the war.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:19:22am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

The legendary Winfield Scott was still in command of the US Army at the beginning of the Civil War. He was also a Virginian but it apparently never even crossed his mind to desert to the enemy. Past 70 and suffering from a variety of health problems, he knew that he was not up to wartime command and soon retired. He did stay long enough to work out the Anaconda Plan for strangling the rebel south, and lived long enough to see the Union win the war.

Seeing that oyu and Bill already discussed Thomas more better than I could especially because I did not know not one of his relatives paid for his fuenral.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:30:15am

re: #27 retired cynic

HW needs to have that. He’s volunteering for Periello, I think. (Spelling may be off!)

On it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:30:48am

re: #26 Anymouse

And he attacked first: “Are you a Jew?”

Is the guy an anti-Semite? How is that relevant to the exchange otherwise?

Someone ought to send that Twitter exchange to his opponent in the Virginia gubernatorial election. Might make a good advert.

And actually she didn’t call him any name. David Simon called him an ass which to be fair to David, he is that and more.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:37:25am

Anyhow Stewart claims to be proud of his Minnesota heritage too. Oh yeah Corey? How come you never discuss the sacrifices given by Minnesota men at Gettysburg or how it was a Minnesota man, Albert Woodson that was the war’s last surviving vet. No, it doesn’t matter that you’re a transplant. all four of my grandparents were PA transplants too but none of them ever tried to act like the unpleasant parts of their adoptive state’s history were glorious. You rail against political correctness. Here’s something politically incorrect for you, the CSA were a bunch of losers who seceded because they could not accept Abraham Lincoln’s legitimate election as the 16th President of the United States and while most residents of the CSA did not own slaves, nearly all the white citizens were comforted by the fact that slavery of blacks meant “At least I’m not a n-word slave.” What I hate is how CSA apologists try to point out how Lincoln was far from progressive on racial equality and even initially slavery (he only opposed the expansion of slavery for much of his political career) to somehow justify the CSA.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 3:38:55am

Okay guys, I messaged the Perriello campaign on FB with that exchange. I don’t do Twitter so if someone could RT the campaign that screenshot as well, that would also be good. Do the same to Lt. Governor Northam’s campaign too. This pathetic son of a bitch needs to be taken to task for this shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:18:20am

morning tweetstorm has commenced:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:24:03am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

morning tweetstorm has commenced:

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Waaah those mean judges ruled against me.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:40:49am

re: #10 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:52:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:56:38am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

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Confederate Flag Memorial Day. Damn, there’s a day for everything now.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 26, 2017 • 4:58:00am

I remember hearing a weather report on the radio when I lived in Kentucky where the announcer called the sky “confederate gray.” I don’t hear that kind of thing so much here in New England.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:00:50am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:18:09am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

Confederate Flag Memorial Day. Damn, there’s a day for everything now.

Participation prizes for everyone. It’s what’s wrong with this country.

///

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Mike Lamb  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:20:08am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

But when I go before a favorable court, that’s not judge shopping at all.

Oh, and by all means dickhead, please continue to call it a ban.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:21:00am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

morning tweetstorm has commenced:

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It also wasn’t a Court of Appeals decision, the sanctuary cities decision was made by a District Court judge.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:26:26am

re: #37 gocart mozart

I called “Fashy Frog” a “stupid Nazi frog” and got admonished by Twitter with 12 hour probation where my Twitter privileges will be limited. Not sure what that means, everything seems the same.

Is “Fashy” his cute way of saying fascist? If so I almost literally called him by his name. Fucking stupid brain dead obtuse Twitter standards.

‘Fashy’ is Nazi hipster shorthand for ‘fascist.’ I first saw it referring to Robert Spencer’s haircut.

A kicky, fun term for a Nazi makes the Nazi no less of a Nazi if you ask me.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:28:11am

re: #82 makeitstop

‘Fashy’ is Nazi hipster shorthand for ‘fascist.’ I first saw it referring to Robert Spencer’s haircut.

A kicky, fun term for a Nazi makes the Nazi no less of a Nazi if you ask me.

Rebranding, it’s the new fad.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:31:05am

WATCH: Jesse Watters on Fox News re Ivanka Trump: “I really like how she was speaking into that microphone”

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jeffreyw  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:37:25am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:39:04am

re: #65 William Lewis

[General Henry Thomas] was one of the top 3 generals of the war. Only Grant and Winfield Scott (yes, old fuss & feathers - his anaconda strategy is what won the war) were more important to the Union cause.

He was known as “The Rock of Chickamagua” for his gallant stand at the battle there that stopped the Confederate forces from routing the Union.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:40:04am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Happening now: Confederate Flag going up in Belleview, Fl to honor those who lost lives.

If they are doing that on private property, then that is fully within their rights.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:41:54am

re: #84 Dr. Matt

WATCH: Jesse Watters on Fox News re Ivanka Trump: “I really like how she was speaking into that microphone”

Jesse’s 15 minutes are about up at this point, aren’t they? If not, they should be, the guy’s a hack.

And Evita’s fake pre-school teacher’s calm voice is annoying me more the more I hear it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:47:18am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they are doing that on private property, then that is fully within their rights.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:54:14am

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:57:06am

re: #90 Timothy Watson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 5:58:46am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

If they are doing that on private property, then that is fully within their rights.

not that I support or approve of such activity.

the only place a Confederate flag has on public property is at a historical museum, a battlefield memorial site or a museum of failed ideologies

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harlequinade  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:12:10am

re: #91 I cannot.

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harlequinade  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:18:10am

re: #90 Timothy Watson

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:20:12am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The bros are still at it (as if they’ve never stopped).

Barro’s busy bitching about Obama taking money from bank speeches. Like anyone ignores the irony of Trump claiming that Goldman Sachs was the big bag, and ended up taking the entire Goldman Sachs staff and installing their dregs in jobs they’re ill-suited for (the House of Steves - Bannon, Mnuchin, etc.).

No, the hypocrisy is thick there.

And the Bernie bros are still active too - busy complaining that if only we nominated the guy who got fewer votes, fewer delegates, and won fewer states in the primaries, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Talk about rigging a process - all while the guy has repeatedly stated he’s not a Democrat.

So today’s going to be busy with Trump pushing his tax cuts that will explode the debt, and a lot of people suddenly becoming tax experts (getting their Twitter CPA and LLMs in the process).

Trump’s core proposal is cutting the corporate tax rate down to 15%.

Mind you, while the marginal rate is 35%, the effective rate is about 20% - or less, depending on the industry (for utilities, the effective rate is 10%!).

So, if Trump cuts this tax, revenues will collapse, and the burdens will flow to those who can’t afford them.

Of course, all this is being pushed by Arthur Laffer and his acolytes who continue to believe the Laffer Curve will prove to be real, when it’s yet to result in higher revenues.

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The Crusher  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:21:01am

re: #90 Timothy Watson

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:22:28am

re: #94 harlequinade

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:23:13am

re: #91 I cannot.

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Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:23:30am

I see on CNBC this morning that personal bomb shelter sales are booming among the rich due to fears that Trump is going to start a nuclear war.

And good morning to all of you this fine day.

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:25:37am

I had done this graphic back during the campaign season, based on Trump’s stated tax “plan”. It’s useful to come back to again here, since we’ll be hearing/seeing more baffling BS from Trump on taxes today (maybe).

Trump’s plan delivers the biggest tax cuts to the rich, while the middle class - those making between $37k and $91k wont see their rate change at all. It’d be a huge revenue hit, blowing up the deficit, and the GOP fiscal chickenhawks wont make a peep.

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darthstar  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:26:45am
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Amory Blaine  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:26:53am

re: #90 Timothy Watson

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The Crusher  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:27:31am

re: #98 Timothy Watson

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:35:18am

re: #98 Timothy Watson

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:38:54am

Totally new subject, I bet a bunch of us love to see the Blue Angeles and Thunderbirds. The Blues fly the F-18, the Tbirds the F16. But what next for the Air Force?
Either the F-35 or disappointing if true a trainer.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:39:13am

re: #103 The Crusher

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:42:07am

re: #95 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The bros are still at it (as if they’ve never stopped).

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darthstar  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:43:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:45:40am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

They just can’t accept that Bernie lost the popular vote.

I sometimes wonder how much of the Berniebro movement is simply made up of Machiavellian ratfuckers…

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caseyjr  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:47:05am

re: #108 darthstar

Ryan’s strategy should be to deal with Pence first, then Trump and make his own bad self president as happened for Jerry Ford.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:47:17am

Bernie could have ran a better campaign too. He performed terribly with Asians, Hispanics, & especially African Americans. He also lost a lot of open primaries too. The BBs have an ugly anti democratic- small letter d element to them that really bothers me. Disappointment is understandable, we’ve all been there but wanting to overturn democratic results for Bernie is ugly.

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:47:44am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:48:17am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I sometimes wonder how much of the Berniebro movement is simply made up of Machiavellian ratfuckers…

No, I don’t think they’re that conniving. I think they really think he was owned the nomination because of his voting record.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:48:43am

re: #112 lawhawk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:55:49am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

No, I don’t think they’re that conniving. I think they really think he was owned the nomination because of his voting record.

I am sure that a lot of “support” that Bernie received was by people just ready to do anything to harm Hillary and nominate an unelectable Democrat

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:56:32am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

When one continually harps on the problems of the white working class, specifically, and simultaneously calls for an end to identity politics, those of us with eyes and ears can see and hear what’s being said.

Fuck Bernie, fuck his bros and THEIR bros-before-hos mentality.

Yes, he could have run a better campaign. But that still would have been a dumpster campaign, just without the tires next to the dumpster catching fire too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 6:59:26am

re: #116 I cannot.

When one continually harps on the problems of the white working class, specifically, and simultaneously calls for an end to identity politics, those of us with eyes and ears can see and hear what’s being said.

Fuck Bernie, fuck his bros and THEIR bros-before-hos mentality.

Yes, he could have run a better campaign. But that still would have been a dumpster campaign, just without the tires next to the dumpster catching fire too.

When I say he could have ran a better campaign, I’m saying his bros need to place the blame on him. You’re right. He continues to harp on about the WWC and dismissing the concerns of other groups as “identity politics” even though what he does with the WWC is identity politics too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:00:28am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that a lot of “support” that Bernie received was by people just ready to do anything to harm Hillary and nominate an unelectable Democrat

I dunno honestly. A lot of the ones I know are sincere imo but so off the map and they have no real understanding of how shit gets done.

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:00:30am

Also…in today’s rage builder news…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:01:22am

re: #119 I cannot.

Also…in today’s rage builder news…

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Dickbags.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:04:29am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Dickbags.

Asshole has the spare lumber, tools, and carpentry skills to do that, but instead of helping Habitat for Humanity or some other group, he rather spend his time doing that.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:04:48am

re: #53 BigPapa

They look better as women, frankly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:05:00am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

Asshole has the spare lumber, tools, and carpentry skills to do that, but instead of helping Habitat for Humanity or some other group, he rather spend his time doing that.

Exactly.

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Interesting Times  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:05:05am

re: #106 Timothy Watson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:06:00am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I dunno honestly. A lot of the ones I know are sincere imo but so off the map and they have no real understanding of how shit gets done.

the ones you know, but I am sure that a a share his anonymous Internet supports had another agenda entirely

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:06:46am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the ones you know, but I am sure that a a share his anonymous Internet supports had another agenda entirely

Oh I’m sure. There’s been stories about Russian trolls posing as Sanders supporters to disrupt shit.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:17:52am

re: #119 I cannot.

Also…in today’s rage builder news…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:18:02am

re: #101 darthstar

…about how to pull it off in a huge way.

This is the level of discourse that news has devolved to. That clause has zero information. Nothing but a completely misused verb and nonsensical adverb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:21:35am

re: #119 I cannot.

Someone in D.C. is freelancing anti-homeless bench blockers

easily removed with a saw and chisel…

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:21:39am

re: #124 Interesting Times

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:23:28am

re: #103 The Crusher

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:25:21am

re: #119 I cannot.

My first reaction was “unless it was put there by the city, it is illegal” and:

“The Department of Parks and Recreation (DPR) would like to thank the community for bringing this to our attention. The installation of the middle dividers was not authorized by the District government. Therefore, at DPR’s request, the Department of General Services (DGS) removed the dividers earlier this week.”

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:26:19am

We have a lot of those “Only police lives matter” flags around here, the black and white flags with a blue stripe. They look like they came from the upside-down (Stranger Things).

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:31:22am

So Ivanka will create her own Foundation and accept checks from foreign gov’ts while she’s playing as her daddy’s “advisor” in the Oval Office. And the media’s response? “Ho-hum.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:34:17am

re: #134 Targetpractice

So Ivanka will create her own Foundation and accept checks from foreign gov’ts while she’s playing as her daddy’s “advisor” in the Oval Office. And the media’s response? “Ho-hum.”

“She is helping female entrepreneurs! How admirable!”

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Puss Power  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:36:15am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

People who say, “But the polls show Bernie winning!” should be reminded that they also showed Hillary winning.

(As I now call our “president” DT, I shall henceforth refer to the Vermont Sniper as BS.)

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BigPapa  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:36:30am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Eclectic Brotha called her Beckretary of Defense.

I like 1st Becky or Beckretary of State.

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Puss Power  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:38:02am

re: #131 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:39:45am

People are so stupid.

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Citizen K  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:41:00am

The bullshit with Obama’s paid speech, and the continued outright harassment of Chelsea for the sins of having a fucking political opinion really make it clear: they’ve all but codified IOKIYAR into law, because everyone is fucking enraged at the hypothetical of Obama being bought out, or hypothetical of Chelsea running for dynastic office, while using them explicitly to deflect from that happening literally right now in Trump’s administration, by the fucking president’s family.

I fucking hate everything right now. I fucking hate it, and I have no idea how we’re going to take 8 years of this shit (and it looks like it will be 8 years because, again, IOKIYAR is fucking law at this point)

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electrotek  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:48:45am

Any chance of this Brazilian MC ever touring America without incurring the wrath from the self-professed “anti-PC” crowd?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:50:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:52:18am

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Are you people honestly this fucking stupid?

They are watching Fox, that should answer the question

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:52:44am

re: #88 makeitstop

Jesse’s 15 minutes are about up at this point, aren’t they? If not, they should be, the guy’s a hack.

And Evita’s fake pre-school teacher’s calm voice is annoying me more the more I hear it.

Watching that video yesterday and listening to both her delivery and flowery word salad I knew I was now on the path of disliking her very much.

At first she came off as the most likely to be normal Trump and even hinted she wanted no part of politics. I now think that was more pre-planned Trump posturing and she was going to jump in make the most of all that was coming.

In other words…she is deceptive and slick so everyone really needs to keep an eye on her. The Germans already seem to know what America needs to come to grips with,

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:53:57am

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

O.M.G.

Obama doesn’t really need the money: He earned over $14 million for his first three books, and bidding for his next deal (a package with Michelle) has run over $60 million. But he has every right to cash in on his star power and his hard-won expertise.

But, insurance executives fucking over the poor and ill is a great way to make more money than anyone could ever spend…

I’m with Citizen K, FTW.

People are idiots.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:57:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:58:20am
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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:58:52am

re: #99 Skip Intro

I see on CNBC this morning that personal bomb shelter sales are booming among the rich due to fears that Trump is going to start a nuclear war.

And good morning to all of you this fine day.

Would these be the same rich people that voted for the Orange Mess?

I think who ever sells bomb shelters should ask the client who they voted for. If it was for Trump tell them you can’t sell them one and they need to learn the duck and cover.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:59:07am

re: #138 Puss Power

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 7:59:17am

Trump’s tax plan would cut his taxes in half, but Fox is fixated on the fact that Obama might give a speech on which he’ll end up paying taxes at a far higher rate than Trump would pay on his income.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

It’s also why Trump supporters and the GOP at large can’t do math. Trump supporters think that they’ll see tax cuts (they wont). They think that they’ll see benefits from Trump’s tax plan (they wont).

They’ll only see the burdens as everything comes crumbling down, just as surely as it has done in Kansas - that’s the model Trump’s using for his tax plan, especially regarding small businesses and tax rate reductions.

In other words, it’ll mean that everyone has a vested interest in becoming a small business, so that they can shield their income and pay 15%, rather than a far higher rate.

Trump’s businesses are all small businesses (passthroughs like LLCs, LLPs, and S corps). So he’ll benefit by seeing his rate cut by more than half.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:02:19am

re: #103 The Crusher

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:02:45am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:04:18am

re: #144 ObserverArt

Watching that video yesterday and listening to both her delivery and flowery word salad I knew I was now on the path of disliking her very much.

At first she came off as the most likely to be normal Trump and even hinted she wanted no part of politics. I now think that was more pre-planned Trump posturing and she was going to jump in make the most of all that was coming.

In other words…she is deceptive and slick so everyone really needs to keep an eye on her. The Germans already seem to know what America needs to come to grips with,

The fact that she even gets to share a stage with an accomplished woman like Angela Merkel just infuriates me. She does not belong there.

She’s a goddamn third-rate huckster of cheap-ass fake couture, and she probably would have failed at that without a family fortune to prop her up.

This comment needs a theme song. This one is pretty much a perfect fit.

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:04:22am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

TFW people are more riled up by private citizen black person taking a speaker’s fee than by a white POTUS collecting emoluments

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:04:40am

But how many were Russian bots?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:09:19am

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

All of them, Katie.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:10:01am

The current freak-out is just a carry-on of the issue that we had during the election: Bros go nuts over petty shit (“Wall St. speeches!!!”), which the wingnut press then picks up and runs with because they can get people on both sides of the aisle riled up.

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Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:10:41am

re: #148 ObserverArt

Would these be the same rich people that voted for the Orange Mess?

I think who ever sells bomb shelters should ask the client who they voted for. If it was for Trump tell them you can’t sell them one and they need to learn the duck and cover.

I’m sure they are.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:11:14am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

Asshole has the spare lumber, tools, and carpentry skills to do that, but instead of helping Habitat for Humanity or some other group, he rather spend his time doing that.

I bet some, like the more heartless business owners in the area, see him as a hero for helping keep the homeless away from the sidewalks. It would not surprise me if that is how his little bench blocker came about.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:12:52am
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Lupin  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:18:09am

Re the French elections.

My 2 cents is that the polls are correct and Macron will win. In my little village in the South, Melanchon came 1st, Le Pen 2nd, but the Melanchonists hate the FN with a passion. None of the posts above mention the weight of the past, which is that Le Pen is still tied to Nazism and Melanchonists are revamped Communists and even kids who were too young to remember WWII have inherited deep-seated anti-Nazi feelings from their elders. (Something weirdly absent in the US IMHO.) I don’t picture any of the Melanchon voters I know voting for the FN.

The other thing is, feelings towards the EU aren’t quite as bad as one may think; the fact is, the agro-industry, tourism, etc receive a lot of money from the EU; people in my village are aware of it; in the last days of the 1st round, it seemed to me that Melanchon was backpedaling a little on the anti-EU stance; trying to eat his cake and have it, as it were. Le Pen OTOH is 100% pro-Frexit. That will hurt her more than many realize here.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:21:01am

re: #145 Colère Tueur de Lapin

O.M.G.

But, insurance executives fucking over the poor and ill is a great way to make more money than anyone could ever spend…

I’m with Citizen K, FTW.

People are idiots.

I’d say these people bitching about Obama making bucks now are more bigoted than idiot. Any white politician*** making the same speaking fees would be seen as worth it and providing for his family, etc.

We already know Trump is rewarding himself and his grifter family while in office and where is the outrage from these same people? There is none and we know why.

***as long as they are not a Clinton

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:23:48am

Fox encouraged harassment, and refused to crack down and stop it. The company’s values were ones that prized misogynists and serial harassers, while treating women like objects.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:26:49am

Just reading that Jonathan Demme has passed away at the age of 73.

independent.co.uk

RIP

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Teukka  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:28:09am

re: #119 I cannot.

Also…in today’s rage builder news…

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Other examples:
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CongoJack  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:29:16am

re: #163 lawhawk

Can New York shut down FOX “news” via the business death penalty for the toxic culture of constant sexual harassment?

Asking for a friend.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:30:52am

re: #161 Lupin

Re the French elections.

The Nationalist party is pretty much guaranteed 2nd place in any French runoff election, they have cornered a solid 20+% of the vote and are not going to go away.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:31:51am

re: #163 lawhawk

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Fox encouraged harassment, and refused to crack down and stop it. The company’s values were ones that prized misogynists and serial harassers, while treating women like objects.

In a just country that is said by many to be founded on “Christian Ideals” Fox would lose so many viewers over all of the sexual misconduct they would be forced to change their ways or face going out of business because of that low viewership.

I guess we know the truth and a lot of what people say is just outright bullshit. They will stay with Fox because it continues to feed their very un-Christian-like souls with the hate they really desire.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:32:36am
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Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:34:07am
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Interesting Times  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:34:19am

re: #168 ObserverArt

Conservatism in America (among the slavering base as opposed to the cynical and manipulative 1%-ers) has come down to one thing above all else:

Hate liberals.

As long as an entity/person/politician hates liberals and anything perceived as liberal, they can do no wrong.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:35:51am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

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1 in 3 Americans are the problem in this country.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:36:13am

re: #171 Interesting Times

Conservatism in America (among the slavering base as opposed to the cynical and manipulative 1%-ers) has come down to one thing above all else:

Hate liberals.

As long as an entity/person/politician hates liberals and anything perceived as liberal, they can do no wrong.

Ayep, at this point so much of the shit is excused as “It drives liberals nuts.” I’ve seen more than one wingnut who declared he wouldn’t vote for Trump…now defending the man because they perceive him as “driving liberals insane.”

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:36:59am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:37:09am

re: #172 ObserverArt

1 in 3 Americans are the problem in this country.

Yup. It’s unfortunate that they keep breeding and raising more assholes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:38:16am

re: #163 lawhawk

And that in turn poisons the minds of millions of people who continue to watch that network.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:39:23am

re: #176 Dr. Matt

Yup. It’s unfortunate that they keep breeding and raising more assholes.

Recall the intro to Idiocracy. We have reached that stage, and it will not be long before we start spraying Brawndo on our plants

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Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:39:38am

re: #175 lawhawk

All Trumps lie, all the time, about everything. There are no known exceptions to this rule.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:43:05am

Here is someone part of that 1 of 3 Americans:

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:43:13am

re: #179 Skip Intro

Has anyone heard Barron say *ANYTHING*?

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:43:45am

1 in 3 people will be the ones who vote to reelect Trump in 2020 because no matter how badly he fucks up, they’ll be convinced that Obama is to blame and there’s a shadowy conspiracy to prevent Der Trumpenfuhrer from Making America Great Again.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:43:53am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Recall the intro to Idiocracy. We have reached that stage, and it will not be long before we start spraying Brawndo on our plants

And all scientific efforts are spent creating boner bills.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:45:28am

re: #182 Targetpractice

1 in 3 people will be the ones who vote to reelect Trump in 2020 because no matter how badly he fucks up, they’ll be convinced that Obama is to blame and there’s a shadowy Soros-funded, Obama led Deep State conspiracy to prevent Der Trumpenfuhrer from Making America Great Again.

just fixed it up a tad

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:49:37am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Recall the intro to Idiocracy. We have reached that stage, and it will not be long before we start spraying Brawndo on our plants

Recall that in Idiocracy, the people were sexist and homophobic but they weren’t racist.

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho had enough self-awareness to realize he needed advice from an actual smart person, not someone who would only kiss his ass.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:50:49am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

Here is someone part of that 1 of 3 Americans:

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The segment is an awesome example of how fucking stupid so many are in this nation. Obama tried to push through infrastructure spending as part of his jobs bill, but the GOP blocked it at every turn. Then Hillary campaigned in part on infrastructure spending but all these same morons could care about was how much they’ve been told to hate her personally. So they bought into this used car salesman pitch about how they were going to get everything they wanted for no money down, and now are sitting around waiting for it to happen.

YOU GOT ROLLED, YOU MORONS!

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CongoJack  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:51:10am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

So we are worse off than Idiocracy.

Great.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:53:16am

re: #175 lawhawk

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:53:52am

LYIN’ RYAN

We are dedicated to making sure that people with pre-existing conditions get the coverage they need and that their coverage is affordable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:54:58am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

Recall that in Idiocracy, the people were sexist and homophobic but they weren’t racist.

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho had enough self-awareness to realize he needed advice from an actual smart person, not someone who would only kiss his ass.

Jebezzus, we have transcended Idiocracy

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:55:03am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

LYIN’ RYAN

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Whats left out of Ryan’s speech is that this promise to the party’s rich donor base. The rest of us are SOL because the GOP sees no gain in helping us out.

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mmmirele  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:56:09am

Professor Andrew Reynolds at the University of North Carolina did the legwork to expose Seb Gorka’s Ph.D as just this side of bogus. Here’s a snippet:

The dissertation is online and includes the ‘evaluations’ of three referees who each presented a page of generalized comments - completely at odds with the detailed substantive and methodological evaluations that I’ve seen at every Ph.D defence I’ve been on over the last twenty years.

Two of the three referees did not even have a Ph.D. One was the US Defense Attaché at the American Embassy in Budapest at the time, while the other was employed at the UK’s Defence Academy and just had a BA from Manchester University awarded in 1969. This ‘neutral’ examiner had published a book in Hungary with Gorka three years previously. While graduate students sometimes collaborate with their advisors the independent external examiners must have no nepotistic ties with the candidate. More important, a basic principle of assessing educational achievement is that your examiners have at least the degree level of the degree they are awarding. Undergraduates do not award Ph.Ds. In Gorka’s case the only examiner who lists a doctorate was György Schöpflin - an extreme right wing Hungarian Member of the European Parliament who recently advocated putting pigs heads on a fence on the Hungarian border to keep out Muslims. I have been told that Schöpflin was a family friend. Both Schöpflin and Gorka’s father fled from Budapest to London in the 1950s and both moved in exile right-wing nationalist circles.

Lots, lots, lots more at the link.

reynolds.web.unc.edu

I went to my ex’s dissertation defense and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. He had five people on his committee. Two were all in favor of the dissertation. Two were OK with it. One, the guy who had done research prior to a couple of revolutions in the country where my ex had done fieldwork really hated it. They grilled my ex with questions while I sat in a corner and stared at copies of various foreign language editions of James Michener’s works. After the questioning, we were escorted out of the room into another area, where we could hear them arguing through the sliding room divider. Finally, we were asked back in and the doctorate was granted, although some changes were required.

The irony is that professor who had done his work in country in 1948 and completely disagreed with what my ex wrote about in 1987 asked my ex to talk to a class that evening. I can’t…

ETA: My shock was that the grilling was far worse than the questioning we got in law school when reciting cases. I had thought of grad school as slightly more collegial. Nope.

tl;dr: Gorka’s Ph.D is sketchy/bogus. No surprise there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 8:58:58am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:01:14am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From 2011:

House GOP Breaks Promise to Post Bills Online for 3 Days Before Vote

[…]

In their Pledge to America, the House Republicans had said: “We will govern differently than past Congresses of both parties,” the House Republicans stated in their Pledge to America. We will require that every bill contain a citation of Constitutional authority. We will give all Representatives and citizens at least three days to read the bill before a vote.

cnsnews.com

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:01:44am

Something something giant sucking sound

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:01:53am
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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:03:07am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’ll be like the last couple of near-misses: The GOP will slap together a bill at the 11th hour, stay up all night to get it passed, and get it to Trump’s desk to be signed by midnight. The crisis will be averted, the “liberal” media will congratulate the GOP for acting like adults for a day, and the wingnuts will rant and rave over all their wish list items not being in the bill.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:03:44am

re: #192 mmmirele

How confrontational it is does depend, to some extent, on the committee.

That being said, it is not an experience in my life I ever care to repeat.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:05:16am

re: #195 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Something something giant sucking sound

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Bannon really does want to kill this country, and his figurehead is just stupid enough to go along with it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:05:30am

re: #182 Targetpractice

1 in 3 people will be the ones who vote to reelect Trump in 2020 because no matter how badly he fucks up, they’ll be convinced that Obama is to blame and there’s a shadowy conspiracy to prevent Der Trumpenfuhrer from Making America Great Again.

Hopefully they will see the Republican party as the shadowy part and take it out on them. If anything gets wrecked due to Trump it should be the Republican party of Trump enabling users.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:08:27am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:08:42am

Mr. Fahrenthold - they have not thought this through yet. It’s a $ grab.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:10:35am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:11:45am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How often does a President have a vacancy from the start of his presidency that belonged to his predecessor? I’d wait Conway but I like to sleep too.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:12:15am

Remember when the GOP made a big song and dance about “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:13:00am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Remember when the GOP made a big song and dance about “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”?

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GOP more projections than IMAX.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:13:09am

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Seems the reports of Bannon’s career death have been greatly exaggerated.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:18:59am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Remember when the GOP made a big song and dance about “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”?

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I also remember the GOP demanding that Congressmen and their staffers have to “get Obamacare” which the Democrats actually put into the bill.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:20:54am

re: #207 Targetpractice

Seems the reports of Bannon’s career death have been greatly exaggerated.

Yep.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:23:22am

re: #192 mmmirele

The irony is that professor who had done his work in country in 1948 and completely disagreed with what my ex wrote about in 1987 asked my ex to talk to a class that evening. I can’t…

ETA: My shock was that the grilling was far worse than the questioning we got in law school when reciting cases. I had thought of grad school as slightly more collegial. Nope.

The lower the stakes, the higher the animosity. That’s not how the saying goes, but I think I got the gist of it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:23:43am

re: #208 Timothy Watson

I also remember the GOP demanding that Congressmen and their staffers have to “get Obamacare” which the Democrats actually put into the bill.

Yep, that was supposedly going to show that the Dems weren’t serious about the bill, that they weren’t writing a provision to force them and their staff onto the ACA rolls. So the DNC put such a provision into the bill…which the GOP immediately balked at and tried to play up the plight of them and their staff members being forced onto “government-mandated healthcare.”

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:26:28am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.

Clarence Darrow.

“Although a premature obituary notice serves only to aggravate whatever ill-will one might have already possessed toward someone”

Me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:32:50am

re: #212 I cannot.

Clarence Darrow.

“Although a premature obituary notice serves only to aggravate whatever ill-will one might have already possessed toward someone”

Me.

I certainly won’t miss Bannon. Just as Breitbart himself isn’t missed.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:38:22am

Charles,

Is there anyway to verify that an order through Amazon was done through your affiliate link properly?

I use an extension to that converts amazon.com links to smile.amazon.com so the Southern Poverty Law Center gets some money and I just wanted to make sure that if I used the affiliate link, that extension didn’t cause any problems.

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Jay C  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:39:13am

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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OK: a couple of questions about this NAFTA stuff:

1. CAN Trump do this by EO? I thought NAFTA was a formal “treaty” which needs (?) Senate approval to be abrogated?

2. Has anybody - in the WH or not - thought through the consequences (OK, it’s Trump: rhetorical question)?

Whatever “bad” effects NAFTA may or may not have had on some.any segments of the economy, do the Trumpistas TRULY believe that the US - largest economy in the world or not - can really dictate the terms of its international trade position to its own advantage in each and every case? Without any serious blowback?
THIS is frightening: I know we were afraid Trump would start WWIII; who knew it would be a trade war?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:43:09am

re: #215 Jay C

THIS is frightening: I know we were afraid Trump would start WWIII; who knew it would be a trade war?

Best way to recover from an economic slump is to start a war somewhere…

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retired cynic  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:43:56am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see DT junior photobombing it, also. Family trait.

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Bass Reeves  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:46:09am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except if you cut taxes while doing it.

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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:47:11am

re: #215 Jay C

Can’t “technically” abrogate the treaty without the Senate…but the executive is supposed to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed”, if President * the Second were to say “fuck the treaty imma gonna do whatever I want”, and the courts don’t shut him down, do you really think that Mitch McConnell would fire up impeachment proceedings?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:47:32am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Best way to recover from an economic slump is to start a war somewhere…

The Iraq war didn’t do shit for the economy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:48:57am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

The Iraq war didn’t do shit for the economy.

Because it was too small in scope, too long in duration and they did not cut taxes enough.

/

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BeachDem  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:49:38am

re: #144 ObserverArt

Watching that video yesterday and listening to both her delivery and flowery word salad I knew I was now on the path of disliking her very much.

At first she came off as the most likely to be normal Trump and even hinted she wanted no part of politics. I now think that was more pre-planned Trump posturing and she was going to jump in make the most of all that was coming.

In other words…she is deceptive and slick so everyone really needs to keep an eye on her. The Germans already seem to know what America needs to come to grips with,

I had a much shorter learning curve. I have disliked and distrusted her from the very beginning, kitten voice and pretty hair aside. She’s just a more polished version of her turd father.

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Jay C  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:51:47am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Best way to recover from an economic slump is to start a war somewhere…

True, perhaps, but in terms of a trade war, what is the likelihood that a Trump Admin reversion to pre-WWII economic-protectionist tariff-wall policies wouldn’t spark a recovery from an “economic slump” (which we aren’t in right now, but never mind) , but rather spark one/make one worse?

[DISCLAIMER: IANAEconomist, I don’t have a solid handle on what effects on the general US economy a unilateral abrogation of NAFTA - which it sounds like the WH is proposing - would have. I’m just thinking that the range of outcomes is going to run from bad to worse to 1932. And quickly. ]

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Skip Intro  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:52:08am

re: #207 Targetpractice

Seems the reports of Bannon’s career death have been greatly exaggerated.

As long as the crazy Mercer woman is backing him he’s going nowhere.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:54:14am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

Here is someone part of that 1 of 3 Americans:

I can’t access twitter at work, but a lot of the time I can take a twitter link and put it in the edit box here, hit preview, and see the tweet. This time, if I post the link inside the tweet at the top of your comment, I get the tweet again, not what is being referenced.

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Jay C  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:55:11am

re: #219 I cannot.

Can’t “technically” abrogate the treaty without the Senate…but the executive is supposed to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed”, if President * the Second were to say “fuck the treaty imma gonna do whatever I want”, and the courts don’t shut him down, do you really think that Mitch McConnell would fire up impeachment proceedings?

Depends on what his (and other Senators’) corporate donors say. If Trump junking NAFTA is perceived as negatively affecting their bottom lines, The Donald and his whole famn damily will be getting a one-way ticket to Mar-a-Lago PDQ. Probably unanimously.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:59:19am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 9:59:35am
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:01:19am

So, Trump’s going to back out of an agreement where we send $600M to Canada and we take in $100M of their stuff (if I remember the thing from yesterday)?

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:02:01am

So far, the only Trump spawn aside from Barron who has left me with the feeling that they have an ounce of humanity is Tiffany. And I suspect that’s why she has virtually no role in the administration, while her soulless siblings have basically been given the run of the place.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:03:04am

re: #230 Targetpractice

So far, the only Trump spawn aside from Barron who has left me with the feeling that they have an ounce of humanity is Tiffany. And I suspect that’s why she has virtually no role in the administration, while her soulless siblings have basically been given the run of the place.

And from what I’ve read about Tiffany, she was mostly raised by her mother while living on the other side of the country from Donald Trump.

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BeachDem  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:03:18am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The yam has used that flag more than once. Wonder which states he plans to eliminate to make it accurate?

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Interesting Times  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:06:16am

re: #222 BeachDem

I had a much shorter learning curve. I have disliked and distrusted her from the very beginning, kitten voice and pretty hair aside. She’s just a more polished version of her turd father.

The tale of the dictator’s daughter and her prince

Once upon a time, there was a dictator who had a daughter. The dictator, who came to power vowing to make his country great, enacted a series of repressive policies under the guise of nationalism. He persecuted the media and the opposition, used “war on terror” rhetoric to justify a clampdown on civil rights, maintained a close but complicated relationship with Russia, and built a kleptocracy that ensured the country’s riches lined his pockets.

The daughter seemed different - or at least, she wanted to be seen that way. She was an Ivy League-educated cosmopolitan socialite who married into a powerful business family before making her mark as a fashion designer and businesswoman. Like her father, she encouraged an avid personality cult; and like her father, she hid her own brutal practices under the pretext of a soft “feminism”, claiming to represent the ideal modern woman of her country.

I’m talking, of course, about Uzbekistan president Islam Karimov and his daughter Gulnara Karimova. That this description evokes the burgeoning Trump political dynasty should concern you.

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BeachDem  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:07:50am

re: #202 Stanley Sea

Mr. Fahrenthold - they have not thought this through yet. It’s a $ grab.

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I’d also ask who will determine which “women entrepreneurs” will be eligible for the funds and who will make that determination. I can only imagine the parameters Evita will set up to decide.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:10:12am

re: #234 BeachDem

I’d also ask who will determine which “women entrepreneurs” will be eligible for the funds and who will make that determination. I can only imagine the parameters Evita will set up to decide.

Applicants for grants from this Foundation must sign up and then meet a variety of requirements such as: the swimsuit competition, the evening gown competition, the talent competition (baton twirling while pole dancing will get the judges attention!) and also sign a NDA and a waiver for the pageant owner to barge into the dressing room at any time.

Pigs and fat slobs need not apply!

One (1) Woman of Color and One (1) Asian contestant are allowed to apply, provided they are not Fat Slobs or Pigs!

It will be great, yooge, fabulous, incredible, tremendous!

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:11:13am

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

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Dr. Matt  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:13:04am
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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:15:36am

We’ve been here enough times to know how this will go: the wingnut press will praise Ivanka for her “charity” and talk about how this is a great thing because it “helps” women, then go off on a tear about how liberals who (rightly) point out that it’ll be a clearinghouse for pay-for-play payments are only doing so because Ivanka is a Trump and if she were a Clinton we’d be totally cool with it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:17:56am

re: #15 teleskiguy

holy flying screaming fuckballs!

I really can’t imagine ever catching that much air, let alone doing flips…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:18:31am
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jeffreyw  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:21:10am
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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:23:27am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

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The people who adopted the name “deplorables,” who reveled in the idea that if you were outraged then they’d said something right, and supported Trump because he was all about not being “politically correct” sure do seem to get into a tizzy when they’re called names.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:25:04am

re: #242 Targetpractice

The people who adopted the name “deplorables,” who reveled in the idea that if you were outraged then they’d said something right, and supported Trump because he was all about not being “politically correct” sure do seem to get into a tizzy when they’re called names.

They need a safe space.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:27:22am

re: #241 jeffreyw

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Stanley Sea  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:29:53am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:31:53am

re: #245 Stanley Sea

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Oh, now the GOP will vote for total repeal just to piss off the UN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:32:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:34:41am

Trump asked (incorrectly) about 9th Circuit ruling. Trump: “I’m never surprised by the 9th Circuit.” (It wasn’t the 9th Circuit’s ruling.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:36:57am

re: #192 mmmirele

ETA: My shock was that the grilling was far worse than the questioning we got in law school when reciting cases. I had thought of grad school as slightly more collegial. Nope.

A dissertation defense can go a number of ways. My actual defense (same as you exs, five people, all with Ph.D.s) was fairly genial with some hard questions, but no real arguments. The final year before my defense was a living hell.

Never again.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:37:23am

re: #231 Timothy Watson

And from what I’ve read about Tiffany, she was mostly raised by her mother while living on the other side of the country from Donald Trump.

Which means “outcast” from the family.

“I’ll give you some money, but you and your mother need to stay away from me…you make me look bad.”

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Kragar  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:40:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:40:46am
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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:40:46am

re: #233 Interesting Times

The tale of the dictator’s daughter and her prince

I bet that story is a hit with Herman Cain.

He probably calls it ‘The Tail of Daughter Becky from BeckyBeckystan.’

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:43:54am
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I cannot.  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:44:47am

re: #249 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Some time ago, I skimmed through his dissertation for some reason.

I’ve never gone to college, much less gone for a doctorate…so I thought I might be in for some heavy, challenging reading. I wasn’t…my summary of what I thought of his paper

If Gorka could get a PhD with that paper (it IS a paper, in that it is made out of pulped wood), you could have breezed through without worrying about anything.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:47:30am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

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Ugh. I made the mistake of looking at Brian Handysides Twitter page and he is there in a video playing guitar in a Columbus Crew SC t-shirt.

Sacrilege!

Take that shirt off Brian. And, your tempo on that guitar tune needs to be kept steady.

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Kragar  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:48:13am
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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:50:37am

re: #257 Kragar

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The gif should be reserved for the media who knows this and yet will still treat it as a serious proposal and argue that Democrats should try to approach it as such rather than dismissing it as a ridiculous stunt.

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:55:04am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

This is exactly the scenario I was writing about above.

This “plan” which is actually vaporware and has yet to be drafted into a bill form, deviates from Trump’s “plan” during the campaign in a few minor ways - he drops the rate for the lowest bracket to 10% from 12%, but the middle rate remains the same. The top rate is also unchanged.

As with everything he does, there’s no details on which you can “score” his proposal. Without knowing where those brackets fall, this could be a huge giveaway to the rich, again and the middle class gets squeezed, again, with no cuts.

The corporate tax changes are the Kansas/Brownback plan on steroids.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:58:04am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

LYIN’ RYAN

We are dedicated to making sure that people with pre-existing conditions get the coverage they need and that their coverage is affordable.

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The Aristocrats!

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2017 • 10:58:49am

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

The Aristocrats!

He meant “deserve” not “need”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:03:31am
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Kragar  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:05:03am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:05:31am

re: #249 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A dissertation defense can go a number of ways. My actual defense (same as you exs, five people, all with Ph.D.s) was fairly genial with some hard questions, but no real arguments. The final year before my defense was a living hell.

Never again.

I find this is a common refrain among people who have done it.

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freetoken  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:08:07am

re: #263 Kragar

We’ve seen this play before.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:09:39am

re: #263 Kragar

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We always get promised that, then the economy crashes and suddenly those tax cuts are a massive drain on the budget instead. Since wingnuts are so big on the household budget bit, it’s the worker who takes a pay cut because his boss promises he’ll make up the difference with more work hours, then watches as the increased hours never come and he finds himself deeper in debt because his paycheck has been cut in half.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:09:57am

MERKEL: LIIEBER GOTT! WIE JENE SCHWERE OHRRINGE NICHT IHR GANZE OHR AUSREISSEN!!

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:09:59am

re: #245 Stanley Sea

Kyle Griffin ✔ @kylegriffin1
The United Nations is investigating whether repealing Obamacare violates international law by hurting Americans wapo.st
1:15 PM - 26 Apr 2017
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I don’t know about anyone else, but the fact the UN is investigating healthcare in the U.S. is downright embarrassing.

Yeah, we are sinking in world stature. Pretty soon we will be seen as a third world nation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:10:52am

re: #268 ObserverArt

I don’t know about anyone else, but the fact the UN is investigating healthcare in the U.S. is downright embarrassing.

Yeah, we are sinking in world stature. Pretty soon we will be seen as a third world nation.

“Pissing off the UN” will make it all the more attractive to the wingnuts.

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Kragar  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:11:19am
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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:14:06am

re: #263 Kragar

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KGxvi  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:14:23am

re: #192 mmmirele

Professor Andrew Reynolds at the University of North Carolina did the legwork to expose Seb Gorka’s Ph.D as just this side of bogus. Here’s a snippet:

Lots, lots, lots more at the link.

reynolds.web.unc.edu

I went to my ex’s dissertation defense and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. He had five people on his committee. Two were all in favor of the dissertation. Two were OK with it. One, the guy who had done research prior to a couple of revolutions in the country where my ex had done fieldwork really hated it. They grilled my ex with questions while I sat in a corner and stared at copies of various foreign language editions of James Michener’s works. After the questioning, we were escorted out of the room into another area, where we could hear them arguing through the sliding room divider. Finally, we were asked back in and the doctorate was granted, although some changes were required.

The irony is that professor who had done his work in country in 1948 and completely disagreed with what my ex wrote about in 1987 asked my ex to talk to a class that evening. I can’t…

ETA: My shock was that the grilling was far worse than the questioning we got in law school when reciting cases. I had thought of grad school as slightly more collegial. Nope.

tl;dr: Gorka’s Ph.D is sketchy/bogus. No surprise there.

My shock was how little actual arguing lawyers do at hearings. I remember early on getting super prepped for arguments and then getting a tentative and opposing counsel stipulating to the tentative. Even the appellate arguments I’ve had ran on the “cold bench” side (and that included a panel in the 9th Circuit with Kozinski).

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:14:55am

re: #259 lawhawk

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This is exactly the scenario I was writing about above.

This “plan” which is actually vaporware and has yet to be drafted into a bill form, deviates from Trump’s “plan” during the campaign in a few minor ways - he drops the rate for the lowest bracket to 10% from 12%, but the middle rate remains the same. The top rate is also unchanged.

As with everything he does, there’s no details on which you can “score” his proposal. Without knowing where those brackets fall, this could be a huge giveaway to the rich, again and the middle class gets squeezed, again, with no cuts.

The corporate tax changes are the Kansas/Brownback plan on steroids.

I keep hearing the media mentioning increased standard deductions…big league.

I suppose that is the bone being tossed to the common man to make it look like they are getting something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:15:34am

re: #270 Kragar

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BTW do they even know that the overwhelming majority of victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants are other undocumented immigrants? But they can’t report the crime because they’ll be deported.

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KGxvi  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:17:52am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

BTW do they even know that the overwhelming majority of victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants are other undocumented immigrants? But they can’t report the crime because they’ll be deported.

It doesn’t fit the narrative at the moment the way blackonblackCRIMES does.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:19:18am

re: #271 lawhawk

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The tax plan that was in the works for months, such that they couldn’t reveal it to the public is…exactly the same plan as they revealed last year. Scratch that, it’s not even a plan, it’s a proposal. As in “This is what we’d really like to happen, now we need other people to fill in the blanks.”

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Citizen K  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:19:35am

re: #270 Kragar

I’m just exhausted at this point. I keep having these fucking swings of rage and outright despondency over this shit, and it’s just leaving me utterly drained and powerless.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:21:49am

re: #273 ObserverArt

I suppose that is the bone being tossed to the common man to make it look like they are getting something.

This was my first thought, too. Of course the dumbasses will latch onto it and will also probably believe that this “tax cut” for middle and low income earners will benefit them in the same way as repealing the estate tax, alternative minimum tax and the corporate tax rate will benefit rich folk.

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Targetpractice  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:21:58am

“Obama left this nation with so much debt!”

“So why are you proposing a tax plan that will raise the debt further?”

“What debt?”

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lawhawk  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:22:56am

re: #273 ObserverArt

That’s possible.

Increasing the standard deduction could reduce the overall tax burden, but then we get into more esoteric and complicated issues.

Reducing tax rates or reducing the number of brackets isn’t tax simplification.

Eliminating credits, deductions, offsets, and clarifying treatment of income is simplification. But eliminating those credits, deductions, offsets, etc., increases the tax due.

One of the things being floated is eliminating the deduction for state and local taxes, which would be a big hit to taxpayers in high tax states, while lower tax states don’t see any change. A higher standard deduction wont offset the change on taxes.

Same with mortgage interest, if they have the cojones to include that.

But there’s real money at stake in stuff like depreciation and NOLs, and it’s not clear what they’re going to do.

Then again, Trump’s tax plan is basically throwing darts at the IRC and deciding that he’s gonna keep a bunch of stuff after all:

Repealing the AMT only makes sense if you’re going to capture that tax in some other fashion, or else it’s a giveaway to the rich.

Repealing the estate tax is likewise a giveaway unless you’re getting the revenue elsewhere.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:23:11am

In other news: Jim Wright visits a bike shop, encounters snobby counter help. Hilarity ensues.

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:25:05am

re: #277 Citizen K

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I’m just exhausted at this point. I keep having these fucking swings of rage and outright despondency over this shit, and it’s just leaving me utterly drained and powerless.

Drained and powerless is what Trump and Gang want you to feel.

We all feel like it, but if we don’t keep bitching and fighting we all lose more and more.

Please use the negative feelings to strengthen your resolve to fight and aim that frustration at your local and state politicians.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:25:16am

I’m doing something right. I should open a business school.

The guy who pays in burritos pays in advance. And they’re better than the ones they sell to the public.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:27:09am

re: #281 makeitstop

In other news: Jim Wright visits a bike shop, encounters snobby counter help. Hilarity ensues.

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Bonus points in my book for pwning hipster/yuppie assholes.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:27:53am

re: #281 makeitstop

In other news: Jim Wright visits a bike shop, encounters snobby counter help. Hilarity ensues.

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And I hadn’t seen that yet when I made my comment.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:29:00am

re: #284 Timothy Watson

Bonus points in my book for pwning hipster/yuppie assholes.

People who work in bike shops can be the worst. Or the best. It’s hard to tell in advance what you’ll end up with.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:29:03am

re: #277 Citizen K

If it’s seriously impacting your ability to function, it may be time to step back and focus on some other things at this point. Or do something that helps you feel more positive about it, like volunteering with a local Democrat group. Same advice I used to give PLL.

Wringing yourself out over it does nothing positive for either you or the situation at hand. Self-care is important.

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BeachDem  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:32:43am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

MERKEL: LIIEBER GOTT! WIE JENE SCHWERE OHRRINGE NICHT IHR GANZE OHR AUSREISSEN!!

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Sorry, but I was distracted by that hideous earring that looks like it weighs about 50 pounds.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 26, 2017 • 11:35:56am

re: #281 makeitstop

In other news: Jim Wright visits a bike shop, encounters snobby counter help. Hilarity ensues.

I’ve been in that bike store. Cycling pro shops are often filled with grade one assholes. And, many other are not. Around here, if the owner is also part of a team s/he sponsors, gack, obnoxiousness will ensue unless you’re part of the clique.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 26, 2017 • 12:35:40pm

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