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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:35:25pm

That’s the great Pino Palladino on bass.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:44:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:45:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:52:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:53:03pm

I’m not a huge John Mayer fan, but that is sweet!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:55:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 5:55:54pm

re: #5 Barefoot Grin

I’m not a huge John Mayer fan, but that is sweet!

I haven’t always liked John Mayer’s records, but this new one is really great. On heavy rotation at LGF HQ.

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b_sharp  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:00:11pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

I haven’t always liked John Mayer’s records, but this new one is really great. On heavy rotation at LGF HQ.

For some reason I’m always surprised at his guitar playing ability.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:04:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:06:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:07:21pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:08:24pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Maybe they could get a weekend show on MSNBC.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:08:25pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Speaking of cookouts

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:11:12pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:12:56pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Gosh, he MUST be talking about how Ah-Nold The Steroid Junky drove California into the ground! 😉

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:13:51pm

I expect this to become a real thing any day now:

Facebook Post

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:24:07pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:24:42pm

Whoa.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:24:57pm

re: #17 Interesting Times

I expect this to become a real thing any day now:

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Perhaps they can tell him the commander of the wall is Lieutenant Kijé, but he’s unavailable just now …

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:27:05pm
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freetoken  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:30:28pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Wasn’t there a blow up in the news earlier (like last week?) over the EPA possibly removing a website having to do with chemicals and contamination?

I thought I remembered something like that.

Anyway, brick by brick, Trumpersters will dismantle modern America in their vision of a feudal society.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:30:48pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

That’s because America is a blatantly racist county who elected the most ignorant, classless carny side show barker in the history of the US, and most people couldn’t care less.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:31:12pm

Fabio?!?

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:31:43pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Who then put someone 100x more racist than himself in charge of the Department of Justice and another racist on the Supreme Court where his first vote was to kill black men.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:34:58pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:35:49pm

Aw, KKK scum haz a sad…

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:37:21pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

People are afraid of the introduction of AI and the eventual conquest of our robot overlords. I say that is patent nonsense. All we have to do is point them to 4chan and they will troll each other to death. Then we can start over and learn from our mistakes.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:38:07pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:38:46pm

“Love will tear us apart again” video filmed 35 years ago today. Joy Division.

post-punk.com

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EPR-radar  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:39:21pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

People are afraid of the introduction of AI and the eventual conquest of our robot overlords. I say that is patent nonsense. All we have to do is point them to 4chan and they will troll each other to death. Then we can start over and learn from our mistakes.

If it comes down to a choice between being ruled by Republicans or by Evil Robot Overlords, bring on the robots.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:40:25pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

If it comes down to a choice between being ruled by Republicans or by Evil Robot Overlords, bring on the robots.

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:40:25pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

When does David Duke get his weekend show on MSNBC?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:40:43pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:43:11pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Whoa.

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I visited The National Eagle Center in Wabasha, MN and was either told or read that once an eagle sets it talons into something, the talons lock in place. They said that young eagles sometimes underestimate the size of a fish and when their talons lock onto it, they can’t let go, can’t lift the fish out of the water, and wind up getting pulled underwater to drown.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:43:29pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Auntie Dont Play also looks like Auntie Dont Read. At least she does not read LGF on a regular basis.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:44:12pm

re: #35 stpaulbear

I visited The National Eagle Center in Wabasha, MN and was either told or read that once an eagle sets it talons into something, the talons lock in place. They said that young eagles sometimes underestimate the size of a fish and when their talons lock onto it, they can’t let go, can’t lift the fish out of the water, and wind up getting pulled underwater to drown.

I would imagine they have to be able to let go of it somehow. I could, however, see it being a process that would be difficult to accomplish for a young, panicked eagle being dragged about by a gianormous pike.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:45:31pm
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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:48:38pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Looks like he shaved once, anyway.

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stpaulbear  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:51:07pm

re: #37 thedopefishlives

I would imagine they have to be able to let go of it somehow. I could, however, see it being a process that would be difficult to accomplish for a young, panicked eagle being dragged about by a gianormous pike.

Argh. Google says I’m mistaken.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:51:36pm

re: #39 retired cynic

Looks like he shaved once, anyway.

Must be a file photo.

//

Either that or he was sitting for his Iron Cross commemorative photo.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:52:10pm

re: #39 retired cynic

Looks like he shaved once, anyway.

Still looks like he pours Jack Daniels in his bowl of Froot Loops.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:54:29pm
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b.d.  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:54:45pm

re: #42 Ace Rothstein

Still looks like he pours Jack Daniels in his bowl of Froot Loops.

Yep, Mr. Bannon likes his water……on the side.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 28, 2017 • 6:55:50pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:01:23pm

Snowing like crazy on the Front Range. Here up in the mountains two and a half hours to the west? 45° F, calm wind.

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:08:33pm

Saw the actress Billie Piper today at Planet ComicCon today. Pretty cool. We loved her in “Penny Dreadful” as Brona/Lilly.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:12:54pm

re: #47 prairiefire

Saw the actress Billie Piper today at Planet ComicCon today. Pretty cool. We loved her in “Penny Dreadful” as Brona/Lilly.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:13:24pm

@maddow reports: NBC News has learned both the Trump transition and the White House *did* perform a background check on Michael Flynn.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:15:03pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:15:40pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:16:00pm

NEW MASHUP - Donald Trump’s First 100 Days In 100 Seconds

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:16:59pm

re: #51 prairiefire

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:18:01pm

re: #32 thedopefishlives

Better artificial intelligence than actual stupidity.

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:19:20pm

Jason Isaacs (Lucious Malfoy) will be there and we are going to get a picture!

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:20:23pm

re: #55 prairiefire

Jason Isaacs (Lucious Malfoy) will be there and we are going to get a picture!

Most excellent. We may have to trade con pics after next weekend. Believe it or not, this will actually only be my second con ever, and my first experience at a Comic-Con.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:20:39pm
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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:22:05pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:25:02pm

re: #58 prairiefire

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:26:38pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Most excellent. We may have to trade con pics after next weekend. Believe it or not, this will actually only be my second con ever, and my first experience at a Comic-Con.

So much gosh darn fun! I went over 25 years ago and could not find one person to go with me. So I had a couple of kids who are now my comic con compatriots. Back then I met Johnathan Frakes from Star Trek NG. My son got a picture with Stan Lee a couple of years ago.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:27:29pm
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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:32:42pm

re: #55 prairiefire

Jason Isaacs (Lucious Malfoy) will be there and we are going to get a picture!

That is if he can get me off his lap.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:34:06pm

The Okeanos folk are back at it … missed the dive today, but they will be going over the next two weeks through the central Pacific, south of Hawaii by a couple of thousand miles, through both claimed territory and open seas.

Basically the area in which The Minnow was lost in Gilligan’s Island…

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:35:38pm

Until Fuckface Von Clownstick leaves office…

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:35:40pm

re: #60 prairiefire

So much gosh darn fun! I went over 25 years ago and could not find one person to go with me. So I had a couple of kids who are now my comic con compatriots. Back then I met Johnathan Frakes from Star Trek NG. My son got a picture with Stan Lee a couple of years ago.

Mrs. Fish went to this con last year with a friend, dressed as The Joker and Harley Quinn. She said her compatriot was miserable and as a result, it kind of dragged down her experience. I’m hoping to be able to improve on that, and our thematic selection is rather more apropos: The Eleventh Doctor and River Song.

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:37:01pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish went to this con last year with a friend, dressed as The Joker and Harley Quinn. She said her compatriot was miserable and as a result, it kind of dragged down her experience. I’m hoping to be able to improve on that, and our thematic selection is rather more apropos: The Eleventh Doctor and River Song.

Yes! Yes! Wonderful!

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:37:15pm
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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:38:19pm

I wanted to dress up as one of Lily Frankenstein’s killer whores but my dress didn’t work out. Maybe next year.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:41:02pm

re: #60 prairiefire

Oh, and Marina Sirtis will be one of the guests at Minneapolis this year. Mrs. Fish might have to drag me off to our photo op.

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Broad With Sass  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:41:35pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

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And I hate you both..lol…jealous Whovian says

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:43:38pm
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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:44:19pm

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:44:51pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

{{{Anymouse}}}

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:46:09pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

GAH! That’s like W and President Clinton in Haiti, greeting people, working on disaster relief after the earthquake, and after W shook hands with some Haitians, wiping his hand on the back of Clinton’s white shirt.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:46:33pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

I am so sorry!!!

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:47:34pm

re: #69 thedopefishlives

Oh, and Marina Sirtis will be one of the guests at Minneapolis this year. Mrs. Fish might have to drag me off to our photo op.

Saw her at ours a couple of years ago. She’s still gorgeous! She married an American she met on the Star Trek set and they live in England. She’s a righteous liberal! She had some folks here in my red state squirming in their seats, lol.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:48:08pm

LOVE MEEEEEEE!!!

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prairiefire  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:49:07pm

re: #72 Anymouse

((Anymouse)) So very sorry.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:52:27pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:53:01pm

re: #72 Anymouse

:(

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Amory Blaine  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:53:20pm
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freetoken  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:54:29pm

re: #81 Amory Blaine

Use the dressing as cooking oil and make a grilled cheese sandwich??

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:54:46pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

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LOVE MEEEEEEE!!!

The Cardigans - Lovefool

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:55:50pm

re: #72 Anymouse

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:56:53pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

So sorry. We lost two last year, and it sucks to go through it.

You gave Felix a good life. That’s a lot more than most kitties get.

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Weaselone  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:57:04pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

The ignorance in the thread is also appalling. There’s no evidence that Warren’s claim had anything to do with advancing her career and it was added after she was brought on as a professor by Harvard. In addition, there is no reason to believe she isn’t actually part Native American. That this was part of the oral tradition in her family is confirmed by her brothers.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:57:11pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:57:25pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

:( I’m sorry. I lost one of mine last August to heart failure, and I was hoping somehow yours would pull through. That loss is a god-awful hurt.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 28, 2017 • 7:57:56pm

re: #72 Anymouse

So sorry, friend! Sending a hug!

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:00:14pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

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Nina Persson is great. She did a song with one of my favorite bands and she kicks butt.

Manic Street Preachers - Your Love Alone Is Not Enough ft. Nina Persson

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:09:02pm
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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:12:57pm

Thanks all for the kind and considerate comments. Forcing back tears is not normally something I have to do.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:13:28pm

Cernovich got his WH press creds. today. Fuck

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Swampwitch  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:14:38pm

re: #72 Anymouse

I’ve been enjoying the adventures of Felix since joining this forum. I am truly sorry for your loss.
I lost my Mister Jinx this past September. He was a feral kitten when I got him in 2011. I didn’t want a cat, but my son worried about me being lonely after my husband passed away, so I kept him to make my son happy. Jinxy became my fluffy goofball best friend who never meowed…he cooed, like a dove. He was strictly an indoor fella…until that day in September when the Jehovah’s Witnesses came calling. Normally I’d tell them I was atheist, or Catholic, or a druid…and they’d go away, but these were pushy Witnesses who reached over and opened my front porch door wide enough for Jinxy to get by me and them. I searched for weeks, but he was in the wind. I’d like to think he’s being loved up by a family with lots of huggy kids, or content watching soaps on some old lady’s lap.
It’s not my place to say, but I really hope at some point you give another animal a home. Your posts show a big heart, a heart Felix was happy to share. Take care of you and the Mrs. You’re good people.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:15:00pm

re: #93 Dave In Austin

So disgusting! What will it take for this country to recover????

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:15:04pm

re: #86 Weaselone

The ignorance in the thread is also appalling. There’s no evidence that Warren’s claim had anything to do with advancing her career and it was added after she was brought on as a professor by Harvard. In addition, there is no reason to believe she isn’t actually part Native American. That this was part of the oral tradition in her family is confirmed by her brothers.

A lot of people in Oklahoma where Warren is from have Cherokee ancestors. I don’t think her believing a family legend was wrong at all. Trump’s the last person who should talk though about false claims and ancestry though. He’s the one who claimed to be Swedish to distance himself from his German ancestry.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:17:55pm

re: #94 Swampwitch

I am terribly sorry to hear about the loss of your own kitty family member, particularly due to the rude behaviour of others.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:18:33pm

re: #94 Swampwitch

I’m sorry for you. When they disappear like that, you fear the worst and hope for the best, and are on wires all the time. I saw a fluffy orange tom in a nearby town a couple of days ago, and nearly went off the road, thinking it might be my Critter, who disappeared last October. I think you should try to adopt another kitty, and put a chain on the door, so you can block pushy JW folk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:18:53pm

re: #91 Kragar

Well at the moment he hasn’t paid anything at all so even paying say, 37 cents would be “more”.

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Jay C  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:19:26pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Thanks all for the kind and considerate comments. Forcing back tears is not normally something I have to do.

Naaah, don’t worry: it’s quite understandable. Anyone who is a kitty person knows the feeling: it’s never easy.
RIP Felix.
So sorry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:22:15pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Thanks all for the kind and considerate comments. Forcing back tears is not normally something I have to do.

Me neither, but I bawled like a baby when Ipst my last kitty. No shame.

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Weaselone  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:22:19pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

I’m sorry for your loss. It’s tough to lose a beloved furry friend and companion.

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:23:21pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

Many, many sympathies. :(

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Weaselone  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:23:42pm

re: #93 Dave In Austin

Fairbanks was a big Sanders supporter who switched to Trump after Bernie endorsed Clinton.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:23:50pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

I didn’t want to see this update. I was hoping you would be bringing him home tonight. You and your wife, please take care of yourselves.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:27:14pm

re: #105 mmmirele

I didn’t want to see this update. I was hoping you would be bringing him home tonight. You and your wife, please take care of yourselves.

We were hoping we would be bringing him home as well. Over the last couple days our hopes were turning to concern as nothing seemed to be helping Felix.

Even discussing the possibility that he would not come home and what we might have to do did not (and cannot) prepare us for making that final decision with the veterinarian.

I imagine it was tough for the veterinarian as well: This is something that she has to deal with on a regular basis.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:29:44pm

re: #106 Anymouse

We were hoping we would be bringing him home as well. Over the last couple days our hopes were turning to concern as nothing seemed to be helping Felix.

Even discussing the possibility that he would not come home and what we might have to do did not (and cannot) prepare us for making that final decision with the veterinarian.

I imagine it was tough for the veterinarian as well: This is something that she has to deal with on a regular basis.

It is. Not only do they become fond of their charges, they know what is happening to the lives of their customers as well. It’s a step removed, but it is two ways of hurting.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:30:04pm

re: #104 Weaselone

Fairbanks was a big Sanders supporter who switched to Trump after Bernie endorsed Clinton.

There’s a lot of weird circular political spectrum shit going on.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:30:15pm

re: #104 Weaselone

Fairbanks was a big Sanders supporter who switched to Trump after Bernie endorsed Clinton.

A bad crowd looking for a worse one….

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:34:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:34:58pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

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Creepy.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:35:25pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

Complete with spit curls, like Betty Boop.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:38:33pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:40:53pm
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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:42:49pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

DT and circus troupe are direct philosophical descendants of those folks, who believed the world was theirs to exploit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:44:26pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

My deepest sympathy to both of you on your loss.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 8:53:53pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Thank you.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:03:32pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

They’re gonna need one helluva tapeworm to fix that one….

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:07:48pm

All one has to do is search Youtube for “human evolution”, set a filter over even a short period, say a month, and look at the results … and see how sad society is when it comes to dealing with reality.

We here often lament the sad state of programming that goes on “history” television, or “science” television.

Sadly, the reality of our society is that most people don’t care about facts, and a notable fraction of the rest, if they care, only do so far as it isn’t too inconvenient.

It has always been a battle, to feed back into your society facts and conclusions about reality. This was not new for Galileo, and we’re still struggling with the same human nature to want to escape to fantasies.

Trump wasn’t put in office by accident. Losing the popular vote by as large a margin as he did but still win is not even a fluke, as other Presidents have lost the popular vote.

Rather, Trump is simply the result of many movements in our society, the culmination of processes among a large group of people, these processes churning over beliefs and desires and fears.

So this too is why I say to not look to the scientists, or to the NYT, to save us.

Art, and artists, are much more emotionally potent means of relating to your fellow humans.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:09:52pm

re: #119 freetoken

I think you are right. We keep being told that DT was put in by emotion or feelings, not policies or facts.

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:10:59pm

“… Yoest’s business is reproductive health misinformation and that is exactly what she has been hired to do. She was behind one-third of state anti-abortion bills in 2011 and 2012. Her life’s work thus far has been to oppose the science of reproductive health and she believes that the death of pregnant woman is preferable to an abortion. Now she will be paid by our tax dollars to disseminate health information and who knows how much of her anti-science pro-uterine servitude agenda will seep into policy and influence bills.

Her position is HHS is concerning enough, but it is also a dog whistle to the forced birth movement.

In authoritarian societies there is a point where people think this is ridiculous, that the madness will stop here. And then it doesn’t and the goal posts are moved and then it happens again. And again. And new ordinary seeps in. A terrible ordinary.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:12:45pm

re: #72 Anymouse

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:14:31pm
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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:18:07pm
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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:20:34pm

re: #122 Eric The Fruit Bat

Another dog-specific quote, but I think it applies to any pet, really.

“Dogs’ lives are short, too short, but you know that going in. You know the pain is coming, you’re going to lose a dog, and there’s going to be great anguish, so you live fully in the moment with her, never fail to share her joy or delight in her innocence, because you can’t support the illusion that a dog can be your lifelong companion. There’s such beauty in the hard honesty of that, in accepting and giving love while always aware that it comes with an unbearable price. Maybe loving dogs is a way we do penance for all the other illusions we allow ourselves and the mistakes we make because of those illusions.”

- Dean Koontz, from The Darkest Evening of the Year

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Mike Lamb  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:20:40pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Snowing like crazy on the Front Range. Here up in the mountains two and a half hours to the west? 45° F, calm wind.

Drove back from a bike trip at Gooseberry Mesa in Utah today. Dillon to Littleton was sketchy.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:21:15pm

re: #121 jaunte

And here is a good example.

The fundamentalists anti-abortionists are carrying on a religious cultural war.

Trump is simply a user of these people for his own goals. But they had to exist prior for him to use them.

I maintain, broken record that I definitely am, that the real issue in America today is the Loss-of-God problem. It lay below/behind many culture wars, and it is these cultural divisions which provide energy for the politics we see today.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:21:41pm

re: #126 Mike Lamb

Drove back from a bike trip at Gooseberry Mesa in Utah today. Dillon to Littleton was sketchy.

According to my Twitter feed three people have died on the roads on the Front Range tonight. Be safe out there!

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:21:45pm

re: #126 Mike Lamb

Drove back from a bike trip at Gooseberry Mesa in Utah today. Dillon to Littleton was sketchy.

Snowing pretty hard here in the Nebraska Panhandle as well.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:22:04pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

Humans are terrible.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:22:33pm

re: #125 makeitstop

Thank you for that quote.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:24:34pm

re: #122 Eric The Fruit Bat

Okay, now there are tears. That cartoon pretty much sums up our day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:26:21pm

I don’t think I have ever seen someone as desperate to be famous as Milo.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:26:57pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

According to my Twitter feed three people have died on the roads on the Front Range tonight. Be safe out there!

Lost traction at the top of Loveland Pass. Thank goodness a snow plow was near and good put some gravel down to get me going again. Watched a BMW X-6 pull a recovery that would’ve made NASCAR fans proud after turning perpendicular to the road. That was exhausting.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:27:44pm

re: #134 Mike Lamb

Lost traction at the top of Loveland Pass. Thank goodness a snow plow was near and good put some gravel down to get me going again. Watched a BMW X-6 pull a recovery that would’ve made NASCAR fans proud after turning perpendicular to the road. That was exhausting.

Tunnel was closed? That’s a bitch.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:27:49pm

re: #133 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think I have ever seen someone as desperate to be famous as Milo.

DT

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Joe Bacon  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:28:54pm

re: #133 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think I have ever seen someone as desperate to be famous as Milo.

That idiot is too dumb to realize that he’s acting as if he’s a kid living in a gasoline can playing with matches. He should have stopped when he was exposed as the pro pedophelic freak that he actually is. Mark my words, Karma is going to get him when he least expects it!

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:29:58pm
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Wile E. Coyote's mom  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:30:14pm

re: #72 Anymouse

So sorry 😢

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whitebeach  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:31:03pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

Aw man, my heart to you and all who loved Felix. I know how tough it is.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:33:53pm

A friend from Omaha just wrote saying he would bat glow-in-the-dark ping pong balls in Felix’s direction tonight.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:36:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:37:42pm

re: #119 freetoken

Trump wasn’t put in office by accident. Losing the popular vote by as large a margin as he did but still win is not even a fluke, as other Presidents have lost the popular vote.

Rather, Trump is simply the result of many movements in our society, the culmination of processes among a large group of people, these processes churning over beliefs and desires and fears.

We may actually be facing a situation where, courtesy of the electoral college, the losing candidate receives an increasing share of the popular vote. Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes; the next Democrat could win 60% of the vote and still lose the election. The Senate is gerrymandered because of the Constitution; the House is gerrymandered thanks to Republican control of state governments.

Democrats need to get their act together and manage to excite those members of the population who are persuadable. There were many who felt that the Democrats did not speak to them; Trump managed to do that — lies all from him — but he “felt” their pain. We need to do a better job at that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:37:54pm

re: #132 Anymouse

I ran across this cartoon from Barry Ritholtz’s blog The Big Picture, after he had sent his beloved dog Maximus into the journey across the Rainbow Bridge.

The cartoon’s power is mighty and shows compassion to all-therefore it is to be treated with respect and used on only such occasions as these.

(Gee, that last line sounds like it came out of some cartoon show….)

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:41:52pm

re: #142 Anymouse

Fuckface Von Clownstick knows the word “archaic?”

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 9:46:18pm

re: #144 Eric The Fruit Bat

I ran across this cartoon from Barry Ritholtz’s blog The Big Picture, after he had sent his beloved dog Maximus into the journey across the Rainbow Bridge.

The cartoon’s power is mighty and shows compassion to all-therefore it is to be treated with respect and used on only such occasions as these.

(Gee, that last line sounds like it came out of some cartoon show….)

It is indeed a powerful cartoon, what your pet might say if he or she were able to talk to you.

Felix was aloof (like most cats seem to be), but when we were gone from the house even for a few hours (never mind the long trips we took), he would cuddle and stay close for days - as if he was afraid we were going to leave him alone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:02:01pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick knows the word “archaic?”

He probably thinks Archaic refers to places you go to to play Pac Man.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:02:55pm

Messages of condolences pouring in from around the world on Felix’s passing, here, on lists, and in my E-mail.

It would appear that Felix had many more followers than I do: My wife quipped “well, you don’t know what he was doing on the computer when we were asleep.”

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:08:06pm

re: #148 Anymouse

Messages of condolences pouring in from around the world on Felix’s passing, here, on lists, and in my E-mail.

It would appear that Felix had many more followers than I do: My wife quipped “well, you don’t know what he was doing on the computer when we were asleep.”

Those condolences are for you and your wife, knowing the loss you are feeling.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:08:15pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

He probably thinks Archaic refers to places you go to to play Pac Man.

I remember when they had Archaics in Vail, CO 20 years ago! Many quarters went into Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, and Cruisin’ USA in those days.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:20:28pm

re: #91 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF
If only there was some way we could verify that claim.

Like everything else he claims, we already know that isn’t true — the 2 pages of his 2005 tax return that are public entirely disprove that statement.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:21:11pm

A while back I mentioned my Trumphumper neighbor/customer and thought I would give an update on him… (for those bored enough to read it ;) ). The background is that I avoid talking politics with my customers but am making an exception with him due to his persistence. Now I am politely stomping on a smug Trump supporter for my personal amusement, but only when he asks for it.

He came over today to ask me to look at a problem he thought he was having with his home network (no problem found, just a slow hard drive and an impatient old man, SSD updates incoming). As I was leaving I was thinking I was going to get away without him bringing up Trump but no, his conservative Tourettes kicked in. As I went out the door he asked me what I thought about the Ninth Circuit Court having their 79% of their decisions overturned. I turned, laughed and told him that what is missing from that statement is the total number of cases the court heard. He went off about how I was wrong and I patiently waited him out, smiling every bit of the way. When he was finished I pointed out that the numbers he was quoting were of the cases the USSC decided to review, ignoring the fact that the USSC does not review every single case that the Circuit Courts decide.

It took a few more rounds between us but he eventually got it and boy was he deflated when he found out that less than .1% of their decisions are overturned on appeal…lol! I then went on about how places like Fox go on with this crap of a partial story and leave out the important data. Yes, what they are saying is true but without the rest of the data it is little more than misleading propaganda. I reiterated to him that I was a former Fox viewer and finally saw through their shit a long time ago. We talked about a few other things relating to Trump; his birthday picture to America of the First Lady that was centered on Trump, that him and his wife prefer to sleep in different states, that Trump is surprised that Presidentin’ is harder than screwing people over with his Empire, his attacking the wrong court when his last order was blocked and so on and so on… my neighbor pretty much listened and said little.

When I finally went to leave (hey, he started it!) told me he had one more question about something that he was surprised that I hadn’t brought up. O’Reilly. Once again I laughed and asked him why he thought Billo was canned and he said it was the accusations from the women that did it. I told him that he was partially right, and then filled him in on Murdoch’s aspirations in getting his grubby wrinkled hands on Sky in the UK and how not dealing with what was going on at Fox could cost him his dream network. I explained the phone scandal in the UK years ago and how that put his plans for Sky on hold until now. I pointed out that it was nothing personal with Rupert, just business, and that if he wasn’t going after Sky then Billo and Ailes would probably still have their jobs because the old fuck couldn’t care less what they did in the past. That surprised my neighbor…lol!

I told him I would see him on Monday for system updates and said good afternoon. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:25:21pm

re: #152 Odie Hugh Manatee

I need you around for discussions with my brother — I never have the details when involved with disputes with him.

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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:25:36pm
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Mattand  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:29:37pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (goes to right-hand pages at Little Green Footballs)

Some vignettes of Felix’s life, and a summary of his recent disorders. Chez Tumbleweed is very quiet tonight.

I’m really sorry to hear that. He was a good friend and you gave him a good home. Condolences to you and the Mrs.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:35:08pm

re: #152 Odie Hugh Manatee

A while back I mentioned my Trumphumper neighbor/customer and thought I would give an update on him… (for those bored enough to read it ;) ). The background is that I avoid talking politics with my customers but am making an exception with him due to his persistence. Now I am politely stomping on a smug Trump supporter for my personal amusement, but only when he asks for it.

He came over today to ask me to look at a problem he thought he was having with his home network (no problem found, just a slow hard drive and an impatient old man, SSD updates incoming). As I was leaving I was thinking I was going to get away without him bringing up Trump but no, his conservative Tourettes kicked in. As I went out the door he asked me what I thought about the Ninth Circuit Court having their 79% of their decisions overturned. I turned, laughed and told him that what is missing from that statement is the total number of cases the court heard. He went off about how I was wrong and I patiently waited him out, smiling every bit of the way. When he was finished I pointed out that the numbers he was quoting were of the cases the USSC decided to review, ignoring the fact that the USSC does not review every single case that the Circuit Courts decide.

It took a few more rounds between us but he eventually got it and boy was he deflated when he found out that less than .1% of their decisions are overturned on appeal…lol! I then went on about how places like Fox go on with this crap of a partial story and leave out the important data. Yes, what they are saying is true but without the rest of the data it is little more than misleading propaganda. I reiterated to him that I was a former Fox viewer and finally saw through their shit a long time ago. We talked about a few other things relating to Trump; his birthday picture to America of the First Lady that was centered on Trump, that him and his wife prefer to sleep in different states, that Trump is surprised that Presidentin’ is harder than screwing people over with his Empire, his attacking the wrong court when his last order was blocked and so on and so on… my neighbor pretty much listened and said little.

When I finally went to leave (hey, he started it!) told me he had one more question about something that he was surprised that I hadn’t brought up. O’Reilly. Once again I laughed and asked him why he thought Billo was canned and he said it was the accusations from the women that did it. I told him that he was partially right, and then filled him in on Murdoch’s aspirations in getting his grubby wrinkled hands on Sky in the UK and how not dealing with what was going on at Fox could cost him his dream network. I explained the phone scandal in the UK years ago and how that put his plans for Sky on hold until now. I pointed out that it was nothing personal with Rupert, just business, and that if he wasn’t going after Sky then Billo and Ailes would probably still have their jobs because the old fuck couldn’t care less what they did in the past. That surprised my neighbor…lol!

I told him I would see him on Monday for system updates and said good afternoon. :)

I can’t deal with people like this anymore. Partly because I can’t remember or haven’t researched the facts that would permanently sink their arguments; partly because these kind of Fox “intellectuals” are just so fucking unaware of how misinformed they are.

But, boy howdy, is “conservative Tourettes” the perfect way to describe this mindset.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:35:09pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:39:27pm

re: #142 Anymouse

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It is just a matter of time before Donald Trump convinces Congressional Republicans to pass Enabling Acts.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:52:35pm

re: #157 Kragar

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Probably offering him the job because he might not have one after next year.

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Cheechako  Apr 28, 2017 • 10:56:00pm

re: #157 Kragar

He can be the Director of the Bureau of Federal Prisons. Though he would have competition from Sheriff Joe.

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piratedan  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:01:08pm

re: #157 Kragar

maybe they intend to use him as a “post”, you know, something to string wire to while they plant him upright in the desert….. ///

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bratwurst  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:11:04pm
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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:17:26pm

re: #162 bratwurst

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:19:35pm

re: #162 bratwurst

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Der Trumpenfuhrer wishes the people of the United States of America Inc. to remember that their loyalty is to him.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:30:00pm
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Anymouse  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:36:42pm

re: #162 bratwurst

Loyalty Day is actually a public holiday declared in law.

During the Second Red Scare, it was recognized by the U.S. Congress on April 27, 1955, and made an official reoccurring holiday on July 18, 1958 (Public Law 85-529). President Dwight D. Eisenhower proclaimed May 1, 1955, the first observance of Loyalty Day. In 1958, Eisenhower urged Congress to move Child Health Day to the First Monday in October, to avoid conflicting with Loyalty Day. Loyalty Day has been recognized with an official proclamation every year by every president since its inception as a legal holiday in 1958.

en.wikipedia.org

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2017 • 11:51:56pm

re: #160 Cheechako

He can be the Director of the Bureau of Federal Prisons. Though he would have competition from Sheriff Joe.

Bureau of Prisons in under DoJ.
DHS controls ICE Detention Centers. So, there’s plenty of supervisory position that are awaiting Clarke’s mismanagement.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:04:41am

re: #156 Mattand

I’ve been politically aware since the early 70’s (Thanks Mom!) and a lot of political water has passed under the bridge since then. I love history, I love political plot twists, I really love to read, I love data and for some reason I have a mind that can recall pretty much anything I have read. One talent I seem to have is the ability to eventually flush out bullshit since I like to be correct about what I am talking about. I’ve always been a troubleshooter in my lines of work so I guess I get it from that.

I have had several conversations with this neighbor over the last few months, some of them pretty intense but in the end he has backed down every single time when he has been shown irrefutable data that proves that he is wrong. He still loves him some Trump but I can tell that bit by bit, I am knocking the stuffing out his support for him. One time he asked me how I was able to find the real stories behind events if I didn’t watch any news channels. I responded that since there is no one place that will tell me the complete story of any given matter, it’s up to me to dig around and find out the truth. I read many news sources, read comments on sites to pick up links to additional information, I am discerning with information and don’t believe anything that I come across unless I can thoroughly verify it via multiple sources. I take my time, I don’t jump to conclusions and I mentally file items for future reference because that particular story may still be developing.

IOW, I’m open to good information and note the misinformation I come across, like a good tech. :)

I told him that it’s pretty much impossible for the average person to weed through all of the news and then research the truth for themselves. They have lives to live; kids to raise, jobs to work, lawns to mow and stuff like that, leaving little time for researching news stories. This leaves the public open to manipulation by news organizations with an agenda. Since self-research is pretty much impossible for most people, outlets like Fox dispense the news to the busy masses for easy consumption and regurgitation. I (politely) pointed out to him that I have shot down pretty much every single ‘talking point’ that he has hit me with, and I did it with facts that could be backed up. That’s with him watching “news” while I don’t waste my time with any of them.

He seems pretty depressed that there is no way to get the whole story without having to do all of the work himself. I did note that today was the first time I have been to his house and Fox Nooz wasn’t on and blaring. He was watching a movie.

It’s probably one by 20th Century Fox… ;)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:13:24am

re: #152 Odie Hugh Manatee

I told him that he was partially right, and then filled him in on Murdoch’s aspirations in getting his grubby wrinkled hands on Sky in the UK and how not dealing with what was going on at Fox could cost him his dream network. I explained the phone scandal in the UK years ago and how that put his plans for Sky on hold until now.

Murdoch’s desired acquisition of Sky may end up a dream unfulfilled again, especially if this bears any fruit;

The federal investigation into Fox News is widening with two agencies now looking into the network’s practices.

A person familiar with the investigation has confirmed to CBS News that investigators from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service are involved in the Justice Department probe into Fox News. That investigation is reportedly looking into money matters at the network, reports CBS News correspondent Jericka Duncan.

While the existence of the Justice Department investigation came to light two months ago, the Postal Inspection Service’s involvement is new.

cbsnews.com

Potentially, this would be even more serious than sexual harassment matters.

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freetoken  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:27:50am

Your science video of the night comes courtesy of MIT:

Earth in Human Hands: A Cosmic View of Our Planet’s Past, Present and Future

The introduction is short, but if you want to skip it move forward to the 4 minute mark.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:33:26am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Thanks for the link! Yeah, I had heard about that earlier today but haven’t checked it out yet, so I appreciate the link. More info to digest and feed to my neighbor on Monday when his Conservative Tourette’s is triggered by my presence.

:)

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:40:44am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

The Postal Investigation Service? I can’t think of too many things that they get involved in other than mail fraud or child pornography.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:52:45am

re: #172 Anymouse

The Postal Investigation Service? I can’t think of too many things that they get involved in other than mail fraud or child pornography.

There’s a glimmer of more info from this article;

Financial crimes experts from the United States Postal Inspection Service are now involved, according to four sources connected to the investigation.

Mail fraud and wire fraud cases are part of the USPIS purview.

Investigators from both the USPIS and the Justice Department have been conducting interviews in recent weeks — including with some former Fox staffers — to obtain more information about the network’s managers and business practices, the sources said.

The existence of the federal investigation was revealed in February. At the time Fox News and its parent company 21st Century Fox said they had not been subpoenaed, but a spokeswoman said, “we have been in communication with the U.S. Attorney’s office for months — we have and will continue to cooperate on all inquiries with any interested authorities.”

Contacted about this story, the Justice Department and the USPIS had no comment. 21st Century Fox also declined to comment.

money.cnn.com (autoplay vid embedded at link)

Maybe something to do with wire fraud? Honestly, I don’t know, but that is in the purview of the USPIS.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 1:00:45am

re: #172 Anymouse

Here we go……..

For the past several months, federal investigators from the Justice Department have been looking into potential financial misconduct at Fox News related to sexual harassment allegations. But the investigation has broadened to involve other aspects of the company’s behavior, according to CNN.

The initial investigation was reportedly triggered by revelations about financial settlements that were made to multiple staffers following allegations they were sexually harassed by former Fox News chairman Roger Ailes, who has since left the company.

Investigators are said to be exploring whether Fox News declared these payments properly in its financial statements, or if it disguised them somehow in order to avoid detection, and financial-crime experts from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service have been brought in to assist.

Justice Department staff have been interviewing those involved—including former employees at the network—for the past several weeks, CNN said. Investigators have been asking “how the shareholder money was spent, who knew, and who should have known.”

Fox News declined a request for comment.

fortune.com (autoplay vid embedded at link)

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 1:21:54am

re: #166 Anymouse

Loyalty Day is actually a public holiday declared in law.

en.wikipedia.org

Intended to combat the dreaded commie holiday of May Day, which is Labor Day here in China. No classes Monday! Woo-hoo!

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Nyet  Apr 29, 2017 • 1:23:16am
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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 1:29:08am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of lechers and propagandists.

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dell*nix  Apr 29, 2017 • 1:57:46am

re: #72 Anymouse

Sorry to hear that. I know how that goes.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:01:29am

re: #178 dell*nix

Sorry to hear that. I know how that goes.

Thank you for your concern. The past several months suddenly threw things around Chez Tumbleweed into chaos after Felix developed diabetes. While treatment for that seemed to help for a while, he was unable to overcome the rapid onset of various illnesses at the same time.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:21:07am

This is not fine:

Russian Controlled Telecom Hijacks Financial Services Internet Traffic (goes to Ars Technica, more at the link):

On Wednesday, large chunks of network traffic belonging to MasterCard, Visa, and more than two dozen other financial services companies were briefly routed through a Russian government-controlled telecom under unexplained circumstances that renew lingering questions about the trust and reliability of some of the most sensitive Internet communications.

Anomalies in the border gateway protocol—which routes large-scale amounts of traffic among Internet backbones, ISPs, and other large networks—are common and usually the result of human error. While it’s possible Wednesday’s five- to seven-minute hijack of 36 large network blocks may also have been inadvertent, the high concentration of technology and financial services companies affected made the incident “curious” to engineers at network monitoring service BGPmon. What’s more, the way some of the affected networks were redirected indicated their underlying prefixes had been manually inserted into BGP tables, most likely by someone at Rostelecom, the Russian government-controlled telecom that improperly announced ownership of the blocks.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:25:20am

re: #180 Anymouse

Ya got an extra http:// at the end of your link!

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:30:03am

re: #181 Odie Hugh Manatee

Ya got an extra http:// at the end of your link!

Oops. Fixed.

That list of financial services and anti-virus firms that either were hijacked or inadvertently diverted include Master Card, VISA, Symantec, and a whole bunch of large and small banks.

I presume it would behoove credit card and account holders at the affected institutions to monitor their accounts and credit cards for unusual activity. Moreover, hackers that lift credit card information will frequently sit on it for months or years before employing it in criminal activity.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:36:21am
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freetoken  Apr 29, 2017 • 2:36:57am

Water horses doing what they always do:

African Watering Hole Camera powered by EXPLORE.org

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Nyet  Apr 29, 2017 • 3:58:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 4:31:21am

Looks like Wikipedia has been blocked in Turkey, unless you’re using a VPN.

No reason was given by the Information and Communication Technologies Authority, other than this; “After technical analysis and legal consideration based on the Law Nr. 5651, an administrative measure has been taken for this website wikipedia.org.”

hurriyetdailynews.com

Edit - This may be the reason, from the Daily Sabah:

According to the Turkish broadcaster NTV, the access was blocked after the website refused to delete false content about Turkey’s ties with terror groups.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 4:35:54am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

This here might be the Wiki article behind Turkey’s decision to block the site:

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 4:38:24am

Back later; off to do some shopping.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:29:10am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Saw him when he performed with The Who on their latest tour, and he’s also toured with NIN. Great bassist. Unassuming and not showy, but he totally rocks the bass.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:32:01am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

Too good to check? Seriously. I bet Watson could curse like a motherfucker.

It’d make Samuel L. Jackson look like a piker.

It’d make sailors look like a bunch of toddlers.

And the scientists couldn’t let that happen. That was the line they wouldn’t cross. /

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meteor  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:39:14am

re: #72 Anymouse

I has a sad. :(

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:39:35am

re: #47 prairiefire

Saw the actress Billie Piper today at Planet ComicCon today. Pretty cool. We loved her in “Penny Dreadful” as Brona/Lilly.

Bad Wolf… :)

Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf.

NO MORE! The Moment / Bad Wolf - Doctor Who - The Day of the Doctor - BBC

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:40:15am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2017 • 5:56:02am

This right here shows how completely fucked the nation is. Trump thinks the system the Founders created is archaic.

GOP originalists, your thoughts? If the Founders are infalliable and their word is supreme, then Trump’s words should be worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

In fact, it should get your blood boiling.

It wont, of course, because the so called originalists are nothing of the sort, and are instead regressives who want to rescind rights expanded over the past century to minorities and other groups under the Constitution. They so want to narrowly construe the Constitution that they distort the words and intend to deprive rights to minorities.

That’s Trump’s intentions.

This is sabotaging government so as to bring about a new order of things that does no one any good except a handful of elites. Everyone else gets burdened with the costs that they can’t afford.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:07:36am

re: #194 lawhawk

If I recall “Great Performances: Hamilton’s America” correctly Senator Elizabeth Warren said that other countries looked at what we created and said it was a good idea. The uncouth one still has not learned that sometimes it is better to work with a system than to break it and build a new one.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:17:54am

re: #190 lawhawk

Too good to check? Seriously. I bet Watson could curse like a motherfucker.

It’d make Samuel L. Jackson look like a piker.

It’d make sailors look like a bunch of toddlers.

And the scientists couldn’t let that happen. That was the line they wouldn’t cross. /

In a couple decades, our survivors will learn that Skynet killed us all because we wouldn’t let it curse.

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jeffreyw  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:20:25am

Imgur
Good morning!

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:28:00am

“…Between 2005 and 2015, Julie Kirchner worked first as its director of government relations then as executive director at the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), an organization founded by an alleged white nationalist who advocates for stricter immigration. During her time at FAIR, the organization proposed efforts to end birthright citizenship and reduce legal immigration levels. She left FAIR in 2015 to become an immigration adviser on then-presidential candidate Donald Trump’s campaign.”

Trump’s wrecking operation continues.

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Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:48:28am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

That is evidence it really does choose the right words.

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Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:51:00am

re: #158 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

It is just a matter of time before Donald Trump convinces Congressional Republicans to pass Enabling Acts.

By the end of this year is my guess.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:52:20am

re: #55 prairiefire

Jason Isaacs (Lucious Malfoy) will be there and we are going to get a picture!

“Say ‘hello’ to Jason Isaacs” is a running gag on the Kermode and Mayo (BBC) film review program.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2017 • 6:53:52am

re: #131 Anymouse

Thank you for that quote.

A friend sent it to me when we lost our dog Cody back in 2014, and I saved it because it hit such a perfect note.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:01:30am

re: #180 Anymouse

This validates my belief that ever since the internet went into the pubic sphere, we would eventually be at war in cyberspace with bad actors. We saw this with the various SQL worms, phishing emails, and so-on-now its full-tilt nation-state warfare in corporate attacks (like this one) and government attacks (Office of Personnel Management).

Fuck Face Von Clownstick and Congress best declare Articles of War against China and Russia for Cyberattacks and put his son Baron in charge - after all, he says he’s good with computers…..

/(half-about putting Baron in charge)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:07:02am

re: #203 Eric The Fruit Bat

I fully believe the “reasonable” tweets are coming from Barron.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:34:07am

Time for another Sandra Bae guitar solo.

Over the Rainbow - Sandra Bae

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:43:33am

And she plays electric, too!

Jerry C - Canon Rock - Sandra Bae

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:44:17am
How’s this for romantic? Back on January 20, Marc and Elizabeth Hokoana, a couple of sweet young folks in Seattle who think Donald Trump is the bees’ knees and the world’s snowflakes, libtards, and commies need to learn a lesson, spent some quality time together by going to a Milo Yiannopoulos speech at the University of Washington. Oh, not to hear their favorite gay white nationalist provocateur talk; they didn’t want that. They went to see if they could provoke a good fight with some liberal snowflakes, to prove the violence inherent in the system is all perpetrated by filthy leftists. Marc had a can of pepper spray, and Elizabeth had a Glock, and they were ready to rumble. By the end of the evening, Mark had sprayed several protesters in the face, and Elizabeth had shot Joshua Dukes, a 31-year old gent who’d been trying to break up a confrontation between Milo fans and protesters. Dukes suffered multiple internal injuries and spent several weeks in the hospital, but survived. After months of investigation, the Hokoanas were charged in King County Monday: First degree assault with a firearms enhancement for Elizabeth, and third-degree assault for Marc. The couple that assaults together … well, you know the rest!

wonkette.com

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EmmaAnne  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:48:32am

re: #153 Hecuba’s daughter

I need you around for discussions with my brother — I never have the details when involved with disputes with him.

When my father-in-law was alive, he would come up with the most bizarre theories and out-of-context facts which would leave me too gobsmacked to say much. Then I got a free six month subscription to the Wall Street Journal, and I read the editorial page, and saw where it all came from. Then I knew exactly what was coming and could respond with a pithy fact or two (like actually it is 0.1% of cases that are overturned - most cases never make it to the Supreme Court) and I was at least able to hold my own (I didn’t really want to have knock-down drag-out fights with my husband’s beloved father, but I didn’t want to stand there gaping like a fish either).

So my suggestion is if you really want to be able to respond to your brother, find out where he is getting his talking points and look up a few facts so you are ready to respond.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:52:12am

My oldest kid’s college graduatuon is about to start.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:56:17am

re: #209 Belafon

My oldest kid’s college graduatuon is about to start.

Congratulations!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:04:28am

re: #209 Belafon

Oldest of how many?

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:07:01am

re: #211 PhillyPretzel

Oldest of how many?

Oldest of three, all boys.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:10:23am

re: #212 Belafon

I am happy for you and your eldest. It is a wonderful day when you graduate from college. Finding a job is another story.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:15:40am

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

I am happy for you and your eldest. It is a wonderful day when you graduate from college. Finding a job is another story.

He’s going on to the University of Kentucky to get paid to be a PhD student.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:20:40am

re: #212 Belafon

Oldest of three, all boys.

I have 3 boys also. My youngest graduates high school next year. 3 boys ages 31 down to 16 (middle boy is 25).

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:22:50am

re: #215 Eventual Carrion

I have 3 boys also. My youngest graduates high school next year. 3 boys ages 31 down to 16 (middle boy is 25).

Mine are five years apart. Not planned.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:29:14am

re: #214 Belafon

He’s going on to the University of Kentucky to get paid to be a PhD student.

Nice gig. Lexington is a nice town, a blue oasis amid a deep red desert.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:29:20am
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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:29:43am

re: #172 Anymouse

The Postal Investigation Service? I can’t think of too many things that they get involved in other than mail fraud or child pornography.

You mean, like sleazy televangelists? Postal Service agents were part of the 50 agents on hand to raid Benny Hinn’s offices in Grapevine, Texas, on Wednesday.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:31:58am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is almost as good as when I was sitting next to a girl on the El (Market-Frankford) who pulled a snake out of her bag. Thankfully she got off at the next stop.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:32:18am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The raven doesn’t look all that happy, either.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:34:41am

Morning Lizardim. How go things among the morning crew?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:35:41am

re: #219 mmmirele

You mean, like sleazy televangelists? Postal Service agents were part of the 50 agents on hand to raid Benny Hinn’s offices in Grapevine, Texas, on Wednesday.

My speculation is that the combined raid, the IRS plus the USPS, is probably on potential charges of mail fraud (soliciting fraudulent donations) and tax fraud (perhaps relating to a bogus 501(c)(3) non-profit status).

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:35:48am

re: #222 thedopefishlives

It may be morning for you but it is almost lunch in Philly. Well for right now King of Prussia.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:36:24am

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

It may be morning for you but it is almost lunch in Philly. Well for right now King of Prussia.

Good Late Morning, Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:41:25am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:42:39am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Delusion isn’t healthy Donald.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:44:17am

re: #222 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. How go things among the morning crew?

There’s not enough coffee.

Friggin’ Rango was out in the early light, calling Alan*.

I woke up thinking about a project at work that I need to stop, evaluate, and decide whether it’s worth further work.

BUT, as I was falling asleep last night, I got to hear the frogs in the creek all loudly doing their best to get laid, and this morning the sun is shining and there are no clouds, and Mrs. FBW is here beside me.

So, on balance, pretty good!

* calling Alan:

YouTube

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:45:42am

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s not enough coffee.

Friggin’ Rango was out in the early light, calling Alan*.

I woke up thinking about a project at work that I need to stop, evaluate, and decide whether it’s worth further work.

BUT, as I was falling asleep last night, I got to hear the frogs in the creek were all loudly doing their best to get laid, and this morning the sun is shining and there are no clouds, and Mrs. FBW is here beside me.

So, on balance, pretty good!

* calling Alan:

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Video

I am most glad to hear it.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:47:51am
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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:50:21am

re: #222 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. How go things among the morning crew?

I’ve been out mowing my spring crop of poison ivy; cooling down a bit and resting for round 2.

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Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:51:14am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s just a natural born liar, but as long as his base believes the lies, they’re not lies at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:51:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:53:00am
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Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:54:53am

re: #230 jaunte

Once again, here are the complete details of the Trump tax plan.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:55:14am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

G-d to Son, “How many times do I have to tell you? Eat something before you drink.”

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Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:56:38am

re: #230 jaunte

How can he play less than the nothing he’s paying now? Does he get tax credits for future years in case his accountants accidentally screw up hiding his income?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:57:18am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just because I don’t care doesn’t mean I don’t understand.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:58:10am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too many people think being a Christian is their excuse to be a judgmental dick.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:00:59am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Too many people think being a Christian is their excuse to be a judgmental dick.

I’m not certain what, exactly, it is that drives this behavior. On one level, we all know and are taught not to judge. On another level, though, we are taught to be intolerant of sin. I think the problem comes in that the recent trend in Churchianity has been to preach the hard line of, “Don’t you dare sin even once or you’re going to BURN IN HELL!!!!1!11”, which leads to a paranoid fear of associating with sin or sinners lest we accidentally do something that will cost us our immortal souls. The part that’s missing is the practical: Jesus lived among sinners and counted them His friends. We need to lighten the fuck up, stop being so paranoid, and just live knowing that God’s grace is enough. We’re bound to fuck up, but it’s not the end of the world.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:03:41am

re: #240 thedopefishlives

I’m not certain what, exactly, it is that drives this behavior. On one level, we all know and are taught not to judge. On another level, though, we are taught to be intolerant of sin. I think the problem comes in that the recent trend in Churchianity has been to preach the hard line of, “Don’t you dare sin even once or you’re going to BURN IN HELL!!!!1!11”, which leads to a paranoid fear of associating with sin or sinners lest we accidentally do something that will cost us our immortal souls. The part that’s missing is the practical: Jesus lived among sinners and counted them His friends. We need to lighten the fuck up, stop being so paranoid, and just live knowing that God’s grace is enough. We’re bound to fuck up, but it’s not the end of the world.

What I don’t get is if you believe God is all powerful, why he would create people of different religions and different sexuality. Just let people be happy finding their own path.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:05:58am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

What I don’t get is if you believe God is all powerful, why he would create people of different religions and different sexuality. Just let people be happy finding their own path.

That gets into the really deep weeds of theology, and to be perfectly frank, there’s no good answer to that. To your point, though, we aren’t here to impose our morals on people. Jesus said repeatedly that He wasn’t coming to establish an earthly kingdom. Christianity is not supposed to be a religion of force. Churchians seem to think that we need laws to make people behave like Christians, but that isn’t how it works.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:06:50am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

What I don’t get is if you believe God is all powerful, why he would create people of different religions and different sexuality. Just let people be happy finding their own path.

Then the True Believers accuse you of following Satan down that path. You see, God is all-powerful, but for some reason he allows Ol’ Nick to play tricks on people and permits demons to take over souls and cause diseases.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:08:03am

Really strange shaking out here on the island about 25 minutes ago… Definitely felt like a weak earthquake, 4-5 seconds of my townhouse swaying back and forth, enough that I felt it right through the floor and the water in my glass on the desk was visibly wobbling. I can reproduce the effect by pushing on the edge of my desk with a finger, but I felt it from the bottom up.

Nothing showing on USGS or other maps except a 2.0 quake in Alaska at about that time, which I really doubt would affect coastal Georgia. I’m puzzled. I’m no paranoiac, but that definitely felt earth-motion-related.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:08:59am

re: #240 thedopefishlives

I’m not certain what, exactly, it is that drives this behavior. On one level, we all know and are taught not to judge. On another level, though, we are taught to be intolerant of sin. I think the problem comes in that the recent trend in Churchianity has been to preach the hard line of, “Don’t you dare sin even once or you’re going to BURN IN HELL!!!!1!11”, which leads to a paranoid fear of associating with sin or sinners lest we accidentally do something that will cost us our immortal souls. The part that’s missing is the practical: Jesus lived among sinners and counted them His friends. We need to lighten the fuck up, stop being so paranoid, and just live knowing that God’s grace is enough. We’re bound to fuck up, but it’s not the end of the world.

Believers create the god they want to believe in. Most holy books have enough diversity and lack of specificity that you can tailor the deity it describes to your own purpose, so if you’re a petty person who needs divine authority to justify hating the people you already hate, that’s the god you create. If you aspire to be better, THAT’S the god you create.

Among the believers I know, and am related to, I find there are two basic threads. One sort talks a lot about how god loves them and gives them stuff. They talk a lot about their personal salvation. The other talks about how god challenges them to change the world.

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piratedan  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:12:35am

its kind of funny, when I was brought up and reminded of it with Bill Hicks routine, the New Testament is all about themes of Love, Forgiveness and Tolerance as the main tenets of the Christian philosophy… based on how these folks behave, hard pressed to find much of any of that in what a LOT of so-called publicly professed Christians are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:14:41am

re: #242 thedopefishlives

That gets into the really deep weeds of theology, and to be perfectly frank, there’s no good answer to that. To your point, though, we aren’t here to impose our morals on people. Jesus said repeatedly that He wasn’t coming to establish an earthly kingdom. Christianity is not supposed to be a religion of force. Churchians seem to think that we need laws to make people behave like Christians, but that isn’t how it works.

Well, there IS a good answer to that, but it involves either NO god, or a ‘Set And Forget’ god. If you try to mix a meddling, busybody god with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent god, that’s when you end up with “It’s a mystery!” and “Who are you to question God?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:27:26am

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, there IS a good answer to that, but it involves either NO god, or a ‘Set And Forget’ god. If you try to mix a meddling, busybody god with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent god, that’s when you end up with “It’s a mystery!” and “Who are you to question God?”

If you eliminate the benevolence, you many end up with the universe we have. Isn’t there a philosopher who said that G-d cannot simultaneously possess the following 3 characteristics: omniscience, omnipotence, and benevolence?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:27:55am

I often hear “We need to be a more Christian society” from the same people who are demanding we turn away refugees, people who oppose DACA and the Dream Act, people who cheer the Death Penalty, people who want to do away with welfare, etc.

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:28:25am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Sure, you’re goth, but are you dejectedly riding the subway with your raven goth?]

I would be, if I had a raven, and a subway, and fare, and those leather pants, and some black hair dye, and felt more dejected.

Almost there!

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Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:28:42am

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

‘Set And Forget’ god

It the power goes out, you have to reset the passage of time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:30:07am

re: #248 Hecuba’s daughter

If you eliminate the benevolence, you many end up with the universe we have. Isn’t there a philosopher who said that G-d cannot simultaneously possess the following 3 characteristics: omniscience, omnipotence, and benevolence?

As Keith Bontrager said of bicycle components, “Strong. Light. Cheap. Choose any two.”

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:33:37am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

As Keith Bontrager said of bicycle components, “Strong. Light. Cheap. Choose any two.”

So that’s who said it! I met him once at the big bike industry trade show. Just before Trek bought his name (so I see it all the time, now).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:37:14am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

I often hear “We need to be a more Christian society” from the same people who are demanding we turn away refugees, people who oppose DACA and the Dream Act, people who cheer the Death Penalty, people who want to do away with welfare, etc.

What they mean is, a society where nobody does anything that makes the ‘Christian’ uncomfortable, like by having unapproved sex, or complaining about being mistreated, or just being different from the approved categories of person.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:41:49am

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

What they mean is, a society where nobody does anything that makes the ‘Christian’ uncomfortable, like by having unapproved sex, or complaining about being mistreated, or just being different from the approved categories of person.

Pretty much nailed it. Churchians’ idea of “persecution” is having to put up with things that discomfort them.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:46:44am

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

What they mean is, a society where nobody does anything that makes the ‘Christian’ uncomfortable, like by having unapproved sex, or complaining about being mistreated, or just being different from the approved categories of person.

Exactly.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:47:00am

re: #244 Pawn of the Oppressor

Does your area get sinkholes?

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:47:28am

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

What they mean is, a society where nobody does anything that makes the ‘Christian’ uncomfortable, like by having unapproved sex, or complaining about being mistreated, or just being different from the approved categories of person.

Yep. Especially the sex stuff: looking at the so-called “Christians”” complaints about society today, it virtually always seems to come down to the lack of control over peoples’ sex lives (and lack of having said controls enshrined in the law) that gets them the most bent-out-of-shape.

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:47:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:50:17am
When the floor is lava pic.twitter.com
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:53:58am

re: #248 Hecuba’s daughter

If you eliminate the benevolence, you many end up with the universe we have. Isn’t there a philosopher who said that G-d cannot simultaneously possess the following 3 characteristics: omniscience, omnipotence, and benevolence?

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

- Epicurius

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Bear  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:54:15am

How sad it is to read about the passing of the kitty in Anymouse post #72. I have to give my two an extra bit of hugs.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:59:31am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:02:30am

re: #263 Ace-o-aces

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No kidding.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:07:32am

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

What they mean is, a society where nobody does anything that makes the ‘Christian’ uncomfortable, like by having unapproved sex, or complaining about being mistreated, or just being different from the approved categories of person.

Don’t forget the “and must be white” part.

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petesh  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:15:32am

re: #250 wrenchwench

I would be, if I had a raven, and a subway, and fare, and those leather pants, and some black hair dye, and felt more dejected.

Almost there!

But the bag! The green just doesn’t work.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:16:14am

re: #257 Unshaken Defiance

Does your area get sinkholes?

Not natural ones, and not out on the barrier islands, no.

I could do with out the weirdness. The last three weeks have supplied a midnight hailstorm on the island, a broken pipe in my wall which flooded my downstairs with an inch of water, and a fire about a mile down the road which put two families out in the cold (no hydrants in that neighborhood). I think that’s enough crap for the month, we don’t need a sinkhole or a tsunami on top. :P

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:17:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:18:28am

re: #266 petesh

But the bag! The green just doesn’t work.

it’s a putrid green…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:20:34am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

That should read “many white wisconsinites…”

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:21:06am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s a putrid green…

Such contrast! Harder to lose with that dejected gaze.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:22:54am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You never know when you need to send an emergency note to Westeros …

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:25:05am
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petesh  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:26:41am

re: #271 wrenchwench

Such contrast! Harder to lose with that dejected gaze.

Ah, so it’s an accent bag. Well, OK then.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:27:52am

re: #263 Ace-o-aces

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Uh…at the risk of downdings, is anyone fucking surprised?

Lawrence O’Donnell is just as stupid as every other big media thinker who thought Trump being in the Oval Office would somehow change the person he’s been for the last 70 years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:35:27am

re: #265 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t forget the “and must be white” part.

Covered that with ‘just being different from the approved categories of person’. Although, to be fair, it isn’t entirely about color, or ethnicity. You can be one of Those People, provided you Know Your Place, and don’t complain about cops shooting you, or not being allowed to vote, or nobody renting you an apartment.

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bratwurst  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:43:50am

The Rent Is Too Damn High guy was pretty much on the same trip, but at least he was fun.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:45:31am

re: #277 bratwurst

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The Rent Is Too Damn High guy was pretty much on the same trip, but at least he was fun.

Uh huh.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:46:35am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Hill ✔ @thehill
Trump: My trips to my golf clubs “cost almost nothing” hill.cm
6:51 AM - 29 Apr 2017
307 307 Retweets 231 231 likes

Good image to go with the tweet: Trump out hacking away trying to get out of the weeds.

Very telling. He’s in the weeds politically too. And hacking away.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:59:22am

re: #231 jaunte

I’ve been out mowing my spring crop of poison ivy; cooling down a bit and resting for round 2.

Didn’t really have a morning here in central Ohio. It was night time all morning with the dark skies and heavy clouds and rain, rain, rain. Did I say anything about rain?

I guess this weather pattern is part of the “Mayan Express” that has been hammering the central states.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:01:23am

re: #280 ObserverArt

It’s been looking like rain here all day, but except for a few scattered drops, the clouds seem to be heading your way quickly.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:03:43am

re: #281 jaunte

It’s been looking like rain here all day, but except for a few scattered drops, the clouds seem to be heading your way quickly.

I tried to get out and mow the back 40, but even after the grass dried out from the last rains, it’s still too wet to mow. It won’t be dry enough until next weekend, by the forecast, by which time it’ll be 4 feet tall and impossible to mow.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:07:06am

The thread here is interesting. While the percentage of Democrats who thought things were going well went from 61% to 51%, Republicans went from 28% to 72%!!

This is like the surge in confidence in the economy since Trump was elected - the WHOLE rise is just Republicans!

The facts on the ground don’t change, just the party in charge. That’s a scary detachment from reality.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:09:03am

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

The thread here is interesting. While the percentage of Democrats who thought things were going well went from 61% to 51%, Republicans went from 28% to 72%!!

This is like the surge in confidence in the economy since Trump was elected - the WHOLE rise is just Republicans!

The facts on the ground don’t change, just the party in charge. That’s a scary detachment from reality.

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And Greenwald has the nerve to accuse Democratic voters of being that way when it’s obvious that it’s the Republican voters who do that the most dramatically. Look at how Republican voters view bombing Syria for example.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:09:09am

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s interesting to note that the swing is so large among Republicans, thus indicating that they seem to be far more partisan, in general. Things got so much better once their man was in the White House, whereas Democrats did not see such a significant drop.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:11:31am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

And Greenwald has the nerve to accuse Democratic voters of being that way when it’s obvious that it’s the Republican voters who do that the most dramatically. Look at how Republican voters view bombing Syria for example.

Yeah, but Greenwald’s an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:11:57am

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but Greenwald’s an idiot.

YEp.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:12:21am

re: #232 Skip Intro

He’s just a natural born liar, but as long as his base believes the lies, they’re not lies at all.

I don’t give a crap what his ignorant base believes.

What pisses me off is everyone else dancing around the facts that this Asshole President is a lying bag of Orange Goop and is way in over his heads.

I think the Republicans know he is dangerous but they are hoping to excuse him away to get what they want.

The political media also needs to get to doing their jobs instead of weak coverage. This country needs pure facts and hard hitting reporting right now.

Stick with the facts and the truth and maybe we can save some stuff before Goopy fucks everything up.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:18:42am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:19:18am

re: #180 Anymouse

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:21:26am

re: #285 thedopefishlives

It’s interesting to note that the swing is so large among Republicans, thus indicating that they seem to be far more partisan, in general. Things got so much better once their man was in the White House, whereas Democrats did not see such a significant drop.

But, you know, “Both Sides…”

It’s way easier to speak of polarization as ‘both sides abandoning the middle in a race to the extremes’, and sure, you can find evidence of that in things like Congressional votes, etc. But really, what happened was that conservative Democrats were replaced by Republicans, and moderate Republicans were replaced by conservative Republicans, and conservative Republicans were replaced by fascists.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats have not been replaced by Socialists. The situation, despite lazy pundits’ wishes, is not symmetrical.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:21:49am

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, “Both Sides…”

It’s way easier to speak of polarization as ‘both sides abandoning the middle in a race to the extremes’, and sure, you can find evidence of that in things like Congressional votes, etc. But really, what happened was that conservative Democrats were replaced by Republicans, and moderate Republicans were replaced by conservative Republicans, and conservative Republicans were replaced by fascists.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats have not been replaced by Socialists. The situation, despite lazy pundits’ wishes, is not symmetrical.

Prexactly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:22:44am

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, “Both Sides…”

It’s way easier to speak of polarization as ‘both sides abandoning the middle in a race to the extremes’, and sure, you can find evidence of that in things like Congressional votes, etc. But really, what happened was that conservative Democrats were replaced by Republicans, and moderate Republicans were replaced by conservative Republicans, and conservative Republicans were replaced by fascists.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats have not been replaced by Socialists. The situation, despite lazy pundits’ wishes, is not symmetrical.

Nailed it as always.

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Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:22:50am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Good image to go with the tweet: Trump out hacking away trying to get out of the weeds.

Very telling. He’s in the weeds politically too. And hacking away.

He’s right. They don’t cost him a thing.

What? You thought he was talking about what they cost us?

People have to stop making that mistake.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:23:21am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:23:45am

re: #292 thedopefishlives

Prexactly.

See, I could be a pundit. But I can’t bring myself to do Both-Sidesism or What-Aboutism.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:26:10am

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, “Both Sides…”

It’s way easier to speak of polarization as ‘both sides abandoning the middle in a race to the extremes’, and sure, you can find evidence of that in things like Congressional votes, etc. But really, what happened was that conservative Democrats were replaced by Republicans, and moderate Republicans were replaced by conservative Republicans, and conservative Republicans were replaced by fascists.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats have not been replaced by Socialists. The situation, despite lazy pundits’ wishes, is not symmetrical.

This is why the bro-gressives have such a sad. And, to some extent, what Sanders is trying to accomplish, it feels like.

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:30:45am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:31:30am

re: #297 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is why the bro-gressives have such a sad. And, to some extent, what Sanders is trying to accomplish, it feels like.

What they cannot see is why many Americans even those of us who definitely lean left may not necessarily want socialism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:31:33am

re: #297 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is why the bro-gressives have such a sad. And, to some extent, what Sanders is trying to accomplish, it feels like.

Fascists are willing to put in the work. Communists aren’t.
//0.5

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:33:32am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

What they cannot see is why many Americans even those of us who definitely lean left may not necessarily want socialism.

Well, hell - even Bernie isn’t proposing ‘From Each/To Each’ Socialism. Just better regulated capitalism and a balance of power, wealth, and income less toward the 1% and more toward everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:34:00am

re: #300 Blind Frog Belly White

Fascists are willing to put in the work. Communists aren’t.
//0.5

The thing is the right wing base despite their claims otherwise will vote for anyone with the Republican label as long as it helps their goal. They may have disappointments along the way i.e. Romney and some of the other establishment GOPers but they do vote for them. Too many of the left just want everything handled to them. I don’t see them having any desire on the local level. And the far right is an ideological driven movement whereas Sanders himself has become the litmus test for the far left.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:34:44am

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, hell - even Bernie isn’t proposing ‘From Each/To Each’ Socialism. Just better regulated capitalism and a balance of power, wealth, and income less toward the 1% and more toward everyone else.

True. For many of these people, Bernie is considered a “compromise.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:36:32am
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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:43:08am

Oh, just reading up on some neurology stuff:

New Hope For People Obsessed With Amputating Their Own Limbs

Am I wrong for not caring enough to read that one?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:44:10am

re: #305 wrenchwench

Oh, just reading up on some neurology stuff:

Am I wrong for not caring enough to read that one?

White limbs matter!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:46:17am

re: #305 wrenchwench

Oh, just reading up on some neurology stuff:

Am I wrong for not caring enough to read that one?

I’d be more concerned about those obsessed with amputating someone else’s limbs.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:47:06am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

As Keith Bontrager said of bicycle components, “Strong. Light. Cheap. Choose any two.”

Ah, a twist on the old business question: Price, Quality, or Service.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:50:51am

I read this Ivanka Trump quote on Facebook, and I thought, “Nah, that can’t be for real. She’s too smart to so openly give away the Trump game.” I had to make sure. It is real.

“Perception is more important than reality. If someone perceives something to be true, it is more important than if it is in fact true. This doesn’t mean you should be duplicitous or deceitful, but don’t go out of your way to correct a false assumption if it plays to your advantage.”

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Joe Bacon  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:52:31am

Uh oh! Somebody said they needed $30 million to build a Prayer Center but they pocketed the money instead…

ksdk.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:52:58am

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

I read this Ivanka Trump quote on Facebook, and I thought, “Nah, that can’t be for real. She’s too smart to so openly give away the Trump game.” I had to make sure. It is real.

That sounds like her father’s playbook.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:54:05am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

That sounds like her father’s playbook.

Now just imagine how the Republican Bullshit Machine would react if Chelsea Clinton said that…

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:54:08am

Excuse me, I just ran out of fucks to give. Chaldeans unanimously voted for Trump on a promise of being pro-life and pro-Christian, and assuming their Christian beliefs would shield them from any deportation orders…not to mention settling scores with their Muslim enemies, and now look how it has blown up on their faces:

Facebook Post

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:56:09am

Speaking of horrible people, I also saw this on FB this week:

“These lives mattered! They went off to kill other people to make sure Black Lives Didn’t Matter!”

The only reason we let the South have their monuments was as a sop to their self-esteem after having their asses handed to them, after then took up arms for the most despicable cause Americans ever fought for.

These monuments are nothing but Participation Trophies, and it’s time they came down. It’s been 150 years. The South is all grown up now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:57:20am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

That sounds like her father’s playbook.

Exactly. I thought one of the rules of grifting is not to break character and let the mark in on it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:57:34am

re: #255 thedopefishlives

Pretty much nailed it. Churchians’ idea of “persecution” is having to put up with things that discomfort them.

I think your choice of the word discomfort is interesting and may get to the point.

Why would a good Christian worry about comfort? If they are living a Christian life I was taught all the comfort was built in.

I think where the newer forms of Evangelical Christians start to go off the truer meaning is when they ramped up adding politics and business to the preaching. And right there is where the problems start with being discomforted. It added aggression and competitiveness and I don’t think they go into the makeup of being a Christian.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:03:25pm

re: #312 Joe Bacon

Now just imagine how the Republican Bullshit Machine would react if Chelsea Clinton said that…

Right.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:04:22pm

re: #314 Blind Frog Belly White

Speaking of horrible people, I also saw this on FB this week:

[Embedded content]

“These lives mattered! They went off to kill other people to make sure Black Lives Didn’t Matter!”

The only reason we let the South have their monuments was as a sop to their self-esteem after having their asses handed to them, after then took up arms for the most despicable cause Americans ever fought for.

These monuments are nothing but Participation Trophies, and it’s time they came down. It’s been 150 years. The South is all grown up now.

As I said earlier in the week, the people who survived are lucky they weren’t hanged. The way the Union was to the rebels was probably among the most forgiving you’ll ever see in teh aftermath of an armed uprising.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:06:33pm

Another thing which occurs to me is that there are two ways of looking at the ‘two roads’ metaphor from Matthew:

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

One kind of believer sees this as an affirmation that they’re the Good People, and all those other people they don’t like will burn in hell.

Another kind of believer sees this as a challenge, that it’s far easier to just go along than to work to change the world for the better, but the latter way is something to aspire to.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:09:28pm

re: #275 Timothy Watson

Uh…at the risk of downdings, is anyone fucking surprised?

Lawrence O’Donnell is just as stupid as every other big media thinker who thought Trump being in the Oval Office would somehow change the person he’s been for the last 70 years.

Tim, I do watch Lawrence quite often and I don’t think he has ever thought Trump would be changing. He actually tried to warn that he would never change all during the election cycle and he more than anyone really covered Trump’s actual business record.

Lawrence and Rachel and to a degree Chris Hayes have been pretty consistent with their questioning and criticizing Trump.

Makes me wonder how long they will be around, though Maddow seems to be getting some decent ratings. Hopefully that starts to send some signals with the rest of the media.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:19:00pm

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, hell - even Bernie isn’t proposing ‘From Each/To Each’ Socialism. Just better regulated capitalism and a balance of power, wealth, and income less toward the 1% and more toward everyone else.

This is true. The weird thing is for the Real True Left Believer, Bernie’s thinking is only a part of it. They want much purity in all things, but they are willing to take Bernie as one of theirs because he is pure enough for now. They really would like more if you dig into their thinking.

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Citizen K  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:21:03pm

re: #297 klys (maker of Silmarils)

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Like, I’m down with that and would love to see the Dem party pull leftward. The problem is twofold though: 1) Americans seem to love liberal policy but instantly fucking hate wit with searing intensity once the Dem. name gets attached to it, and 2) The Berners seem deadset on burning down the entire institution to the left of the Republicans to get their way, even if it means boosting the GOP in the meanwhile to hasten the hollowing out of the Dem party.

And I don’t know how we fix either of those, because it seems like the country has united in reflexive spite for everything Dem and Clinton at this point, and increasingly normalizing everything Trump and GOP.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:29:22pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

Oh, just reading up on some neurology stuff:

Am I wrong for not caring enough to read that one?

It’s a mental health issue. No different that suicidal tendencies or manic depression or any other host of brain issues.

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2017 • 12:45:54pm

re: #323 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s a mental health issue. No different that suicidal tendencies or manic depression or any other host of brain issues.

The lines between physical and mental can be so thin when talking about the brain. Can’t have one without the other.


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